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- exotica-digest Thursday, January 20 2000 Volume 02 : Number 604
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- Re: (exotica) Sampling in hiphop - and breakbeat
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- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 06:01:14 PST
- From: "Robert McKenna" <rmckenna@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: (exotica) Sampling in hiphop - and breakbeat
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- hey geoff, been totally out of the loop, lots happening. doing exams. but
- had to answer this....
- >
- >I thought the roots of sampling in HipHop were (was) down to 'turntablism',
- >cutting and scratching and mixing records together,
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- >'Grandmaster flash and his adventures on the wheels of steel' from around
- >'81. The use. I hate to think how many takes it took for Wheels of Steel
- >to go down
- >onto tape in the version it did.
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- four
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- to the best of my knowledge, djing and mcing were parallel developments.
- cool herc 'invented' breakbeat djing. the studio 54 djs 'invented' the solid
- groove that became house. jimmy saville was the 'first dj to use two decks
- at once'. john cage was the first person to make music using pitchshift
- controls on record players (test tones on victrolas in the 30s, a technique
- recently used by the invisibl scratch piklz). pierre schaeffer was the first
- person to make records sampling records in the 40s in paris. (no tape untill
- after the war, particularly due to the politics), all his early concretes
- were done on lathes. and yes he 'scratched' the records backwards and
- forwards.
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- which reminds me, to get sort of nat-ish about it, i noticed br cleve's
- suggestions the other week for 'breakbeat' music. all great stuff and i
- would totally recommend tim 'love' lee to everyone, and nicola conte and
- balanco (including conte, remixed by the karminsky's who i can't wait to
- hear more of- stonking dj sets). but breakbeat would mean to me all funk
- derived music. even funk itself could be called breakbeat. tim 'love' lee is
- barely breakbeat as he uses as his building blocks 7ts grooves which are on
- the cusp of disco (keb darge has a name for this which he considers official
- but which escapes me at the moment), it's the kind of thing that the guys
- who run bbe records concentrate on, as distinct from their celebrity
- compilers) and his music is extraordinarily funky deep house. sort of. well
- more than breakbeat anyway. he also, to continue the sampling issue, is
- quite incredibly organic sounding. if you can stomach any disco elements in
- your music, but don't necessarily like disco as it doesn't have enough
- breakbeats, syncopation and all round swing so you can do your funky thing
- on the floor. try him.
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- also in a vaguely appropriate vein people on this list might be interested
- in 'dancefloor jazz' stuff. think compost records and the future sound of
- jazz series of compilations (up to vol 6 i think and reviewed on the state
- 51 web site) and the likes of jazzanova, rainer truby (with or without trio)
- and a forest mighty black.
- just someone was looking for new stuff. aren't we always.
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- normal service soon.
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- thanks
- rob
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