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exotica-digest        Thursday, January 6 2000        Volume 02 : Number 581



In This Digest:

(exotica) Les Maledictus Sound
Re: (exotica) Johnny Gregory - Avengers
(exotica) Frontiere
(exotica) Subotnick in NYC
Re: (exotica) Re: if someone could comb through everything that  everyone hassaid about various records
(exotica) The Maledictus Sound
(exotica) Welcome to Chinatown!
(exotica) Brass Ring......
Re:  (exotica) Brass Ring......
Re:  (exotica) Brass Ring......
Re: (exotica) Nathan's question, more thoughts on the archives
RE: (exotica) Bring Jack Back
(exotica) Palm Springs Holiday
(exotica) greetings
(exotica) Bring back...
Re:  (exotica) Brass Ring......
Re: (exotica) Re: if someone could comb through everything that  everyone hassaid about various records
(exotica) Worst news of 2000 (so far)
(exotica) Re:  Bring Jack Back
Re:  (exotica) Bring back...
(exotica) You've heard the music, now see the movie?
Re: (exotica) Worst news of 2000 (so far)
(exotica) Goodbye
Re: (exotica) Johnny Gregory - Avengers
Re:  (exotica) Brass Ring......
Re:  (exotica) Bring back...
Re: (exotica) Re:  Bring Jack Back

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:10:34 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Les Maledictus Sound

Les Maledictus Sound 1968 rerelesed in 1999 on Tir Groupe Disques

I find it quite difficult to describe the music on this album, from a 1968
Canadian Band that was in the "Incredibly Strange Music Vol 2"   But its spy
jazz jams with psche crime show beats and chipmunk vocals with occasional
screams. Totally psyched out late 60's grooves that are all over the place.
Some whistling, some screams, some strings and lots of psyche guitar fuzzed
out.   Some of the music has a Morricone late 60's horror film feel.   Some
of the vocals are done Chipmunk Nutty Squirrel style that just adds to the
wildness of this record.  Generally the cuts are instrumentals This is an
amazingly weird fun record.  I understand from the liner notes these are
studio musicians  (French Canadian?)  who got together to put this out .  Any
more information on this is welcome.

This is one of my favorite rereleases of last year.   I'm curious if the list
members from Canada have a vinyl copy of this or other releases by this wild
wonderful group of musicians.   For track titles and  more information and
Jack's review where he describes this album as "Today Now Go Go Sounds
Psychedelia, as in Real Lounge Psychedelia"   go to
http://www.jackdiamond.com/psychedelic_cds.html

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck






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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:16:54 GMT
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Gregory - Avengers

> From: [e-mail]
>
> Happy New Year to you all.
>
> I was given 'The Avengers and other TV themes' by Johnny Gregory (Ewing
> records - a Phillips cheapo label?) for my birthday (alas no record gifts
> for Xmas).  And its really rather good (apart from a terrible version of
> 'The roaring Twenties').  Fairly conventional big band arrangements,  but it
> swings,  and I don't have any other versions of nearly every cut on it.  I
> imagine its English as the track mentioned in the title is English and it
> has the Maigret theme, but the rest of the selection is decidedly American,
> Perry Mason etc.

Wing Records was indeed a Phillips cheapo; most Wing stuff I've found
has been pretty battered, though. I hope you've got the release with
the screamingly green plastic skull on the drak (or even dark) blue
background cover, one of the most toe-curling eyeball-peeling covers
of all time. Doesn't this one also has a version of the Avengers theme
(from the first one or two series) that was used before the famous
Laurie Johnson one?

>
> I wondered if anyone knows anything about Johnny Gregory,  is it the same as
> John Gregory?  You see his stuff around,  but what I've heard I've been
> decidedly underwhelmed by.
>

Johnny Gregory probably equals John Gregory. Johnny Gregory also
equals Chaquito, and The Cascading Strings.

Chaquito albums are usually scorching Latin albums. Look out for "That
Swinging Chaquito Sound", "The Great Chaquito Revolution", "Latin
Colours" (especially for the INSANELY swinging cheesy "Upa Negrino")
and a Chaquito one on Wing (can't remember the title). Sadly the
Fontana compilation featuring the bird in the knitted bikini isn't
much cop in comparison.

The Cascading Strings are pretty much as they sound, but there's some
wild stuff on occasion ("Race With The Devil"), and some stuff is
definitely worth a spin if you're in a saccharine, drippy sort of
mood, it's good stuff in that line. Not sure whether he was connected
with "The New Cascading Strings".

I've got a couple of early (late 50s) J.G. albums, one on Ember and
another on Fontana, both of which are ditchwater-dull light music a la
Chacksfield, but IIRC they have a fair bit of biography info on them,
so I could probably dig up stuff on his early career if you're
interested.

Can't actually think if I've got anything else credited to J.G. right
now, I'll take a squint when I get home.



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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:25:05 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Frontiere

In a message dated 1/5/00 11:45:42 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Speaking of Dominic.
 What's he most famous for?  Or what is it I think of when I see his name?
 Some famous movie he scored or something? >>

He was an accordion player who recorded a good LP called Mr. Accordion.  He
also formed a band of 20 accordion players which went by the name of "The
Mighty Accordion Band".  They put out an excellent LP in the late 50's called
"They Said It Couldn't Be Done" which has a gorilla playing accordion on the
front.

Frontiere also composed and performed the music for the great original "Outer
Limits" show (early 60's) -- one of the greatest TV shows ever which
influenced Star Trek and other sci fi shows.

Sean


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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 09:29:15 PST
From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Subotnick in NYC

For those interested in the more electronic end of exotica you might be
interested in seeing this free in-store in at Other Music in NYC:

Morton Subotnick (live performance and demonstration)
Monday, January 24
8 p.m.

Other Music,  http://www.othermusic.com i believe is located at
15 E 4th Street

I wish i could go. Should prove to be interesting. Im sure it will be a
bleep-bloopin' good time!

- -jonathan

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:54:36 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: if someone could comb through everything that  everyone hassaid about various records

    thanks for the support, Nate, and you're offering to co-edit.
currently, i see no way of letting someone else help me with what i want to
do. once the first version is up and running though, anyone will be able to
add comments. so at that time, you could start delving into the old list
archives, and edit out and copy interesting bits, and forward them to me,
so that i can include them in the database. which i'll try to keep doing,
as long as i'm not drowning in such additions.

    i _could_ need some help in writing a little javascript that would
anable visitors to click on a "add comment" button that takes them to a
form. i have no experience at all in javascript. Robbie?

        Johan

        -----


At 14:06 -0500 2000/01/03, Nathan Miner wrote:
>Johan:
>
>This sounds like a great idea, I've often thought it would be cool to
>create a fanzine around the writings here on Exotica.  I mean, there's
>such a wealth of information zapping across my monitor that it seems like
>a logical step to "hardcopy" and organize everything into a more
>accessible type of "database."
>
>I volunteer to co-edit............
>
>- Nate





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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:49:30 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Maledictus Sound

The Maledictus Sound: "Les Maledictus Sound"
CD, Mucho Gusto, Canada, 1999

Wonderful, surprising, incredible! Sort of Symphonic mod sound. Although
the notes suggest a large amount of improvisation, all tracks are very good
compositions, with great melodies. Their name suggests spooky and dark
sounds, but their music is very pop, bright, happy, funny even at times.
reminds me a bit of Peter Thomas: the same Euro big band sound, with wild
electric guitars, and weird/funny sounds (like Chipmunk style voices for
exemple, or screaming). There's 1 track with whistling, several with
kazoo's, drums with echo, and almost all tracks have a big string section -
but luckily not the sirup kind of strings. The opening track (Kriminal
Theme) is spy funk, and uses several sound bits from Pierre Henry's "Messe
pour le temps present". "Concerto genocido" sounds surprisingly optimistic,
with baroque trumpets. There's also symphonic Hammond soul, and what sounds
like Buddy Merrill on acid. Highly recommended!

i bought it from Jack Diamond, and this is what he wrote about it:

Originally released in 1968. Jello Biafra talks about this LP in his
Incredibly Strange Music Book Interview in Vol 2. Awesome, "Today Now Go Go
Sounds Psychedelia", as in real Lounge Psychedelia, but probably MUCH
better than that, go ahead and quote me on a new genre, BUT YOU GOTTA
GIMMIE CREDIT FOR IT, with a couple of tracks of "Nutty Squirrels-Esque"
sounds. "Kriminal Theme" is 1 of the most amazing spy jazz crime sounding
psychedelia I have EVER heard in my life.  Damn, man Seriously spooky
slowed down down down Morricone-esque spaghetti western electric guitars
and some of THE MOST WICKED electric guitars (different tracks than
spaghetti guitars) that start out first for a very brief half second
sounding like a Harmonica, but the very next part of that second, WE ALL
KNOW it is that fucking killer insane screamin' guitar that just fucking
rules and will tear your head clean off.  Yum yum. It is awesome. THEN,
there are a few killer organ led go go sounds things, organ and electric
guitar with horns things. * Liner notes: The genre of this record is
unidentifiable. Its composition is a collaboration of classical and modern
artists is association with session musicians towards a common goal: the
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:06:18 -0500
From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Welcome to Chinatown!

We picked up a really good CD compilation last week called
Welcome to Chinatown Vol. 1 - Oriental "Popcorn" Tracks. It's kind
of like Jungle Exotica, one of my favourite compilations, but with a
kitchy Chinese theme. I was trying to find out more about it and the
label, "Marginal Records" as the disc dates from 1995, there is no
e-mail or web adress, and the mail order address could be out of
date.

I was about to ask Johan as it is a Belgian label but my web
search turns up one hit, not surprisingly his own listing of 1995
releases!

> v/a : Welcome to Chinatown - Oriental "Popcorn" tracks, vol.1 *
> (Marginal MAR CD 002, BE, 1995)
> direct mailorder: Patrick Michiels, PB 4, 9100 Nieuwkerke,
> Belgium)

Just want to recommend this one and at the same time ask Johan
if he can post more info on this and other releases on the label and
to confirm the mailorder address (or e-mail if any?).  Also is there a
Volume 2?

Thanks,


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:47:48 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Brass Ring......

I've been enjoying "The Disadvantages of You" by the Brass Ring - I guess =
this would be filed under "60's lite/pop."  This was a cover I couldn't =
pass up: a long-haired blond in a wool checked skirt with knee high socks =
on a wooden step ladder planting a kiss on a balding gent in a black suit. =
It just screams, "Sixties Pop!"

The arrangements aren't outstanding or anything, just a helluva lot of fun =
to listen to. Wordless female "la la la," etc.=20

I recall a brief Brass Ring discussion before and was hoping for a recap?? =
(And since you're all probably thinking I ought to look up the damn digest =
- - how do you access that??)

- - Nate




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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:19:29 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Brass Ring......

In a message dated 1/5/0 1:11:22 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I recall a brief Brass Ring discussion before and was hoping for a recap??

I have about 5 LP's of theirs (on Dunhill). Features Phil Bodner as leader
and his arrangements are possibly the prototype for late 6T's instrumental
Now Sound records at large (although I'm sure this is debatable)...Jimmy
Botticelli/recommends all their LPs and IMHO Disadvantages LP is the weakest
of the lot


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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 14:27:33 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Brass Ring......

Great!  Let's talk Brass Ring.

So, they have at least five LP's out - that was one question I had......and=
 if "Disadvantages" is their weakest then I've got something to look =
forwards to.........

But I see your point about it not being a "spectacular" record.  First two =
listens, my reaction way "Um, Okay."  But further listens garnered a more =
favorable reaction.  The arrangements aren't anything "special" (by that I =
actually have no idea what I mean, but maybe you do!!) but the sound is =
definitely that vintage "now" sound that's so cool.

Should I know who Phil Bodner is??  I mean, does he hold a spot in the =
"scheme of things" (ala: Sergio Mendes (or is it Mendez?)) or is he =
relatively obscure?

Do tell!

- - Nate





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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:45:55 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Nathan's question, more thoughts on the archives

>I recall a brief Brass Ring discussion before and
>was hoping for a recap?? (And since you're all
>probably thinking I ought to look up the damn digest
>- how do you access that??)

The sacred archives are in this temple:
http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/exotica/archive/

But as there is no search function, finding specific info is, er,
inconvenient. Unless you can remember what month/year it was discussed.

Another possibility, in this age of ever cheaper mass storage, would be to
download all of the archives to your own local drive... then apply a search
program at that level (I presume all OS's have search apps avaialable that
will sniff through text files for you).

But it would be handiest of all to be able to search the archives on the
web, but I don't think we're going to get Xmission to restructure just for
us. Someone would have to provide a server where the archives could be
split back up into individual posts (smart people would be able to come up
with a script to automate the task) and filed into some sort of database.
Then put on a nifty front end ala IMDB or Slashdot. And no, I'm not
volunteering... that sort of thing is way beyond me. It would be a job for
the experts.

Good luck to you Johan! That's a BIG job you're taking on.

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:05:36 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: RE: (exotica) Bring Jack Back

OK.
Will try once more, digesters.

Jack Diamond, bring it on home...come back to eXotica, pal.

I brought this up because I think this list NEEDS Jack's passion for music.
You always know where Jack stands. And let's face it....sometimes eXotica
is a tad sleepy. Wake us up! Plus now the heroic Johan has proposed the
exotic-list-record-review db project, he'll need lots of distinctive
colorful content...which Jack could surely to supply if he has a mind to do
it. (BTW Johan, a fab and cockamammy idea. Luv ya for it!)

Here goes Ron again...
>Jack once commented that he though he was barred from the list - Is this th=
e
>case?  If so, I can't imagine why. ...

You know, it doesn't matter to me if or why Jack banned from the list. If
he was asked to leave because he posted ads for the records he sells, then
perhaps he could resist posting that stuff because some eXoticats think
it's spam. But kick Jack off the list for that? When he also posted
playlists and reviews of records--RECORDS--he doesn't sell? When he's a
walking talking LP encyclopedia with a Hawaiian bark cloth cover? Seems
like clearing out an ant hill with a bulldozer.

Or mebbe he just removed himself. Boo Hoo!

Jack, c'mon down and lend us your ears.

Mimi




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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:08:52 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Palm Springs Holiday

I actually sent this link to good ole Lou Smith aka Dr Death once
http://www.findagrave.com

It allows all kinds of searches for graves, name, location etc.

Easy listening in the Big easy
Chuck


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> >
> > I found the headstone of none other than Hugo
> >Mario Montenegro.
>
Nat Kone wrote
> Didn't even know he was dead.
>
> I know that you aren't telling a story here of going to visit famous
> musician graves but I wonder if anyone here has such stories.
>
> I actually think it's a kind of a strange thing to do.

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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 22:37:33 +0100
From: "ClichΘ" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) greetings

Greetings from Hungary. As I can see you work hard on this list. Good!
Keep on.

clichΘ
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:59:17 -0800
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bring back...

I forwarded one of the more recent messages to Jack - He was underwhelmed.

Personally, there are a LOT of folks I'd like to see around more: Moritz,
Cleve, Jessica Cameron, C. Kafka, Magnus.... Who am I forgetting?... Brad
Bigelow. I know there are others.

I'd like to be around more, but my records are still in cold storage since
July, I have not been to NEARLY enough garage sales/thrift stores lately,
and I think I may have temporarily lost that lovin' feeelin... (Whoa, THAT
lovin' feelin') So much so, I did not even do an Xmas CD this year.

Even having a turntable in the office has not broken the funk.

Poor me. I think I'll fire up Ebay and tear the scab off my wounds.


Ron



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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:11:30 -0000
From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Brass Ring......

Nathan Miner wrote:

> Should I know who Phil Bodner is??  I mean, does he hold a spot
> in the "scheme of things" (ala: Sergio Mendes (or is it Mendez?))
> or is he relatively obscure?

I've not actually heard any Brass Ring but Phil Bodner certainly
isn't obscure - he was one of those Command alumni who played
on virtually every Command and Project 3 record.  You'll probably
find his name in many other orchestras too, eg: Creed Taylor, Lalo
Schifrin etc.

I think he's still playing - he's certainly on the 1998 Enoch Light
tribute album "Put Some Style In It".

For more info, there's almost certainly a biography at Brad
Bigelow's site:

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/


Robbie


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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:11:30 -0000
From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: if someone could comb through everything that  everyone hassaid about various records

Johan Dada Vis wrote:

>     i _could_ need some help in writing a little javascript that would
> anable visitors to click on a "add comment" button that takes them to a
> form. i have no experience at all in javascript. Robbie?

Let me know exactly what you want and I'd be glad to help.


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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:10:31 -0500
From: Wayno <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Worst news of 2000 (so far)

*******************************************

Hurley, O'Connor Join "Bedazzled"

By Charles Lyons and Paul F. Duke

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Elizabeth Hurley and Frances O'Connor ("Mansfield
Park") have signed to join Brendan Fraser in director Harold Ramis' remake
of "Bedazzled."

The project, which has been in development at Fox for more than two years,
stepped onto the fast track when Fraser signed on in November. Shooting is
set to begin Jan. 24.

Inspired by the 1967 Dudley Moore Faustian comedy of the same name, the
film revolves around a nerdy, low-level technical adviser (Fraser) who
enlists the help of a powerful temptress (Hurley), to win the love of a
female co-worker (O'Connor).

The original film, directed by Stanley Donen and co-starring Moore and
Peter Cook, centers on a short-order cook, who the devil saves from suicide
and then tempts with an offer of seven wishes in exchange for his soul.

Hurley's credits include both "Austin Powers" movies as well as "EdTV," "My
Favorite Martian" and "Permanent Midnight." O'Connor starred in indie pics
such as "Love and Other Catastrophies" and "Kiss or Kill." Ramis last
directed the 1998 mob comedy "Analyze This."

*******************************************

    About the only good that might possibly come of this would be the
re-release on video of the flawless original. Who would've guessed that the
Y2K disaster everyone was waiting for would be directed by Harold Ramis?

    In a blue funk,

        Wayno





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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:31:55 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Bring Jack Back

In a message dated 1/5/0 3:51:59 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I brought this up because I think this list NEEDS Jack's passion for music.
>You always know where Jack stands. And let's face it....sometimes eXotica
>is a tad sleepy.

A  thought on that...Several people on the list that are committed to music
are also into other forms of music.  Early exoticats from the collecting days
of the 8T's and earlier 9T's have told me they have saturated themselves with
the music and while not tired of it, are pursuing other zounds more readily
available. For example, a collector whose main exotic want is a rekkid s/he
will bid on at E-Bay for perhaps $150.00 is also still interested in
continually discovering music and must pursue within other genres and realms.
Jack may/may not be there, but the  dynamic exists. I find myself wandering
into the instrumental funky/groove realm frequently these days because I find
it so hard to find something exotic/now/etc. ...Jimmy
Botticelli/Consumer-Collector


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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:38:51 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Bring back...

In a message dated 1/5/0 5:00:42 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I forwarded one of the more recent messages to Jack - He was underwhelmed.

I'll say it. He's not God....Like me, he's a middle-aged man who's obsession
with collecting has helped considerably to make him what he is. But he's NOT
God and if he doesn't want the digest, let the fella go peacefully into the
night..."night "night Jack, don't say you weren't invited back...Your pal,
Jimmy Botticelli


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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:20:40 -0800
From: Jim Gerwitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) You've heard the music, now see the movie?

After at least 6 months of pushbacks in release date, the DVD of
"Vampyros Lesbos" came in today's mail (no pun intended). Sound is dolby
digital mono(???), but i can't watch yet cuz my kid is here doing his
homework. Damn!!  I've seen the "Schulmadchen" series vids for sale on a
cult movie website, but unfortunately lost the URL.

While on the subject of eurorotic cinema, i'm really enjoying those two
Dagored erotic soundtrack comps, especially "She Had a Taste for Music."
Mood swings from fuzzy funk to what i'll call "Classy EZ" (as opposed to
Cheezy EZ), and the gal vocals are bellissima!!! "Italian Girls Like Ear
Catching Melodies" is growing on me too. I like these better than the
Emmanuelle Negra comp, maybe because i had raised expectations for that
one.

JB Le Noir
(1st song of 2000: Spoonful - Pigpen & the boys)


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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:53:19 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Worst news of 2000 (so far)

Wayno wrote:

> HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Elizabeth Hurley and Frances O'Connor ("Mansfield
> Park") have signed to join Brendan Fraser in director Harold Ramis' remake
> of "Bedazzled."

Oh, gross...the only thing worse than this was hearing that they are
going to remake "Get Carter", with (now this is the really awful part)
Sylvester Stallone in the role that Michael Caine had in the original.

It's not like any of these remakes are doing well at the box office, are
they?  Why ruin a perfectly good movie?  Sigh....


cheryl


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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:40:17 -0700
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Goodbye

Fellow list members,

This is just a short note to say I am planning to unsubscribe to the list. I
have made MANY friends on this list over the past 4 years, and at times it
has been a great joy to me, but I must say that over the years there have
been fewer and fewer topics of interest to me. I hope that if there is
anything on the list that makes any of you think of me, you might drop me a
line or forward it on. Perhaps at some point I might resubscribe, but I just
find I rarely read anything anymore....

So please keep in touch and keep sharing the music....

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:37:12 +0000
From: Michael Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Gregory - Avengers

In message , [e-mail] writes
>Happy New Year to you all.
>
>I was given 'The Avengers and other TV themes' by Johnny Gregory (Ewing
>records - a Phillips cheapo label?) for my birthday (alas no record gifts
>for Xmas).  And its really rather good (apart from a terrible version of
>'The roaring Twenties').  Fairly conventional big band arrangements,  but it
>swings,  and I don't have any other versions of nearly every cut on it.  I
>imagine its English as the track mentioned in the title is English and it
>has the Maigret theme, but the rest of the selection is decidedly American,
>Perry Mason etc.
>
>I wondered if anyone knows anything about Johnny Gregory,  is it the same as
>John Gregory?  You see his stuff around,  but what I've heard I've been
>decidedly underwhelmed by.

Yes John Gregory is Johnny Gregory.

I've got one of his LP's here on Philips called "The Detectives" & in
the liner notes it mentions that he has also recorded as Johnny Gregory
but that he has achieved most of his fame recording as "Chaquito" (doing
Latin American Music) & also has recorded as "The Cascading Strings"
+ conducted BBC Orchestra's, London Symphony, Royal Philharmonic etc.

"The Detectives" is actually quite good - fairly punchy stuff with a
couple of really good tracks. (McCloud)  Definitely superior to the
Geoff Love Orchestra versions I have of similar songs.

On the subject of xmas gifts I was given the "Mannix" soundtrack
(L.Schifrin) and its really good.


Cheers

Mike
Michael Davidson
Auckland, New Zealand


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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 03:22:54 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Brass Ring......

At 02:27 PM 1/5/00 -0500, Nathan Miner wrote:
>
>Great!  Let's talk Brass Ring.

Yes let's.  (Finally something I know something about)
>
>So, they have at least five LP's out - that was one question I
had......and if "Disadvantages" is their weakest then I've got something to
look forwards to.

I have eight of their records.  (That makes me the winner AND the loser.)
I don't think I could name the strongest or the weakest of them.  They're
all pretty well the same, in that none of them are great all the way
through, all of them have highlights and all of them are pretty good if
you're not listening too hard.

If I really had to choose the best one, I'd go with the one that's usually
identified as the best one, which is the only one I know of that's on the
Project 3 label.  It's called "The Brass Ring featuring Phil Bodner".
It has my favourite Brass Ring cut, their version of "Ain't no Sunshine".

If I had to choose a second favourite, it would be "The Now Sound of the
Brass Ring" but that's partly because I love it when records actually say
"Now Sound".
I also like it because it has a slightly higher number of classic 60's
covers than most of them.

Someone who is or was on this list - Brad or something - wrote an article
in Cool and Strange Magazine and included the Brass Ring in a discussion of
Tijuana Brass wannabe's.  (Or Tijuanabe's).
I don't know what they actually wanted to be but I don't put them in that
category.  Or at least, at their best, I don't put them in that category.
They usually have a few cuts on each record with that sorta annoying bouncy
beat that TJB is all about but like I said, at their best, they're not much
like TJB.

For me, they pretty well define the Now Sound.  They're not that flashy and
the arrangements are usually pretty conservative but really, that's what
the Now Sound was.  To me.

If you like the tunes they're covering, you'll probably like their version.

>Should I know who Phil Bodner is??  I mean, does he hold a spot in the
"scheme of things" (ala: Sergio Mendes (or is it Mendez?)) or is he
relatively obscure?

Compared to Sergio he's obscure but if you buy lounge records and read the
credits, he's an important figure.  Important may be hyperbole but like
Sonny Lester or Phil Kraus or Bobby Rosengarden, he's one of the
"architects" of that sound.
Somebody already mentioned his ubiquitous role on Command records.
He's also the leader on the Living Jazz records.  They're a lot like Brass
Ring records except that occasionally they veer into slightly wilder,
funkier territory.
My favourite Living Jazz record is "Memphis Underground" featuring among
other things, a pretty wild version of "Eleanor Rigby".

That's all I know.

Nat




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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 03:34:48 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Bring back...

At 07:38 PM 1/5/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>In a message dated 1/5/0 5:00:42 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>I forwarded one of the more recent messages to Jack - He was underwhelmed.
>
>I'll say it. He's not God....Like me, he's a middle-aged man who's obsession
>with collecting has helped considerably to make him what he is. But he's NOT
>God and if he doesn't want the digest, let the fella go peacefully into the
>night..."night "night Jack, don't say you weren't invited back...

With all due respect to my pals on the "bring him back" campaign, I have to
agree with Jimmy here.
It' strikes me as a bit unseemly or something to beg a guy to come back and
share his passion, if that's what you call it.
I miss some of the people who are gone or who are missing in action.  I'm
gonna miss Jill.  I miss Moritz but I'm assuming he's coming back.  I miss
Ross.  I miss Michelle and Kirsten.  I miss a lot of people who are still
here apparently but hardly post anymore.
(And I'll miss each and every one of the rest of you when you decide we're
not going to have you to push around anymore.)
Also I have to say that as much as Jack made a contribution to the list,
something tells me he might be uh... affected if he came back by popular
demand.
(Take me for example.  If I'm this bothersome when I think that most people
delete my posts before reading them, what would I be like if I found out I
was the people's choice?)

I also think it's a bit of an insult, particularly to some of the newer
people, who weren't around when Jack was and who might feel like "What am
I, chopped liver? Aren't I good enough?"

We got Jane back.  Be thankful for that.  The glass may be half empty but
it's not totally empty.

Nat



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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 03:47:00 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:  Bring Jack Back

At 07:31 PM 1/5/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> Early exoticats from the collecting days
>of the 8T's and earlier 9T's have told me they have saturated themselves
with
>the music and while not tired of it, are pursuing other zounds more readily
>available.

Yeah, my interest doesn't go back that far at all but I've felt saturated
(and kinda tired of it) for a while now.

(Actually I was going to post about this "true exotica" record I just
found, "Music from the Land of the Rising Sun" but without Moritz around,
what's the point?)

But I sort of figured that those other tributaries were part of the
conversation here anyway.

On the other hand, I do listen to lots of stuff that I wouldn't mention here.

Maybe we should make it clear to new members that, at the very least, the
list covers most instrumental music, soundtracks, certain kinds of pop,
certain kinds of crooners etc.

I've privately recommended stuff to people on this list that didn't really
fit the music we talk about here but sorta did.  Stuff that someone who
likes this stuff, might like, even though it's not really this stuff.

Maybe we should experiment with opening out a bit.

>. I find myself wandering
>into the instrumental funky/groove realm frequently these days because I
find
>it so hard to find something exotic/now/etc. .

Well I for one, find that totally relevant to the stuff we talk about.
You'd mention a funky organ thing if it were on a Quincy Jones soundtrack
or something.  So what if it's not on a soundtrack?
In fact, I'd say that it's that kind of stuff you're talking about that
helped bring me to the stuff that we generally talk about here.  So it's
especially relevant for me.
It's kinda silly that you can post about a Dick Hyman organ record but you
don't want to mention Booker T.  (Or Barry Goldberg for that matter.)

I've got an idea.  Let's talk about Fela.

Nat



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