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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:03:52 EST
From: SLarry3595@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Basic Hip CD.........
In a message dated 11/22/99 3:15:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, nminer@jhmi.edu
writes:
<< Well, now I feel like a "member of club" - what with all of that talk
about which color CD's offer the most playability, etc, etc, etc....I just
got Basic Hip's (fabulous - top-notch job on the CD cover, etc!!!!
Excellent.) "African Lament" and I can't play the damn thing!!!
>>
Nat,
That is a shame. You are really missing out on a KILLER cd!!!! I've gotten
my copy and it plays beautifully on my cd player and my portable cd player.
Great sound. Thanks BasicHip for a great job!!
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:29:48 -0500
From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Moog Power!
>Here's what I have. If someone knows better, please
>let me know!
>Traces - Classic IV (?)
Yup. Don't know the lp.
>
>Touch Me - Doors
As in Touch me babe, don't you know that I'm not afraid? What was the
promise that you made?? etc. etc.
Yup. Don't know the lp, but certainly on a Doors' hits lp/cd.
>More Today than Yesterday - What a great song. Spiral
>Starecase, I think.
Yup. I love it too. Got it on a double-record set called "Something Else
Again," on Columbia--smells like a bonus lp for members of the Columbia
Record Club. Also have the 45. B side is "No One For Me to Turn To," a song
title that reads like a pity-party but the music is bouncy and bright. "She
may have a groovy face, But no one else can take your place," etc. etc.
Mimi
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:45:18 -0500
From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Werner Muller/Sonny Lester (was Records)
At 9:47 AM 11/17/99, Peter Hipwell wrote:
>"Percussion In The Sky" is one of the first batch of Phase 4 records
>that was released. IIRC, it's mostly sweeping stirring strings that
>didn't do too much for me, but there's one outstandingly silly tune on
>it about Martian cowboys and indians or some such, with appropriate
>"exploding arrow" sound FX, which I loved. I don't know "Latin Splendour".
I love Percussion in the Sky because there's some really strange string
decoration in the arrangements--weird out-of-key strings that seem intended
to give the music an ethereal quality. Best heard on Stairway to the Stars,
a lightly swinging tune that gets yummy and strange once the angel-strings
kick in. Also love the dirty sax over harp Blue Moon, screwed up by this
strange rising scale xylophone embellishment thingy. Good stereo action,
too. Other cuts seem calculated to sound unthreateningly hip to swingin'
insurance agents --Lucky Star, for instance. I don't much care for the
Mars/cowboys tune that Peter likes--too polka-y for my ears. A hit or miss
record, definitely, but it makes me happy cuz in between the bland cuts it
gets loopy. Like hitting a chunk of jalapeno chile in a mild sour cream
dip.
Cherry Blossom Time in Japan Decca hi-fi DL8603
I wanted so much to like this record more but couldn't...until I played it
by mistake at 45 rpm. That's when the mournful or delicate strings got
tastily bizarre. Completely undercut the sticky sentimentality of several
arrangements. Hyper speed also plays up "imaginative arrangement" touches,
=46I, tango rhythm for "Moon on the Ruined Castle." Think of a soundtrack fo=
r
a 50s Loretta Young drama with some comic touches set in Kyoto, and you got
the feel of the music. Even at 45, the record is underwhelming. Keep
shifting it between the keepers and Goodwill-bound piles.
Boring Muller plays,
Snooze out. Sped up, the tiger
dances on the wind.
Well, whaddya expect for a fast note? It is 17 syllables.
Sonny Lester, Percussive Mariachi. Solid State
Now sound, Alpertish tunes with some cool percussion--tuned bongos, kettle
drums, marimba, xylophone, bells. Another one for the swingin' insurance
agent, only this record played at the party the one time he smoked a joint.
Really dug it at first but now, just like it a lot. Watermelon Man and If I
Were a Rich Man are flat-out fun.
Playing catch up with old threads,
Mimi
Spinning Johnny Taylor, dunno title. Soul funk.
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:16:08 +0100
From: "Kristjan Saag" <kristjansaag@swipnet.se>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Another re-echo-cord explanation
Mo wrote about echoing grooves on records:
> > It happens when the record is pressed: Before the hot soft
> > vinyl cools down, the parts pressed aside by the male=20
> >groove of the matrix >move back a bit and transfer a bit of
>> information to the neighbor grooves.
---
Charlieman wrote:
=20
> >This is exactly how it was explained to me. Like vinyl under
> >pressing-pressure oozing where it shouldn't.=20
---
Kristjan Saag wrote:
>> Still I can't figure this. Oozing vinyl doesn't contain=20
>> sounds, the sounds are the waveforms that are cut in the
>> grooves.
- ---
Charlieman wrote:
>This is true only for the master cutting. After the master is cut, a
>positive plate is made that is then used to press the vinyl. In the
>pressing process, hot vinyl is mashed in between the plates. While it=20
>is warm, the oozing between close grooves occurs.=20
- ---
Kristjan Saag wrote:
>>When vinyl starts to ooze it has already lost shape
>>and is unintelligible for the stylus.
- ---
Charlieman wrote:
>Maybe ooze is the wrong word. This happens on almost a molecular=20
>level, not like leaving the record on your dashboard. Kind of like two =
boats=20
>sailing parallel in the water, their wakes will cross far behind them. =
- ---
Now, this sounds like baloney to me. First of all: the plate that is =
made from the master is negative. Whether it is used directly for =
pressing or turned into a mother matrix and then to sons doesn't matter.
Anyway, the end result is vinyl with grooves. But grooves dont cross =
each other as water, if they did the stylus would jump or get stuck. And =
no matter how many molecules that fly from one groove to another - to be =
identified as particular sounds, as the sounds that were recorded, =
entire waveforms would have to be transferred from one groove to =
another. And waveforms are no particles but indentations in the groove =
walls. As far as I know, hollows don't jump over ridges, no matter how =
repressed these are.
Kristjan =20
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:32:47 EST
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Moog Power!
In a message dated 11/22/99 4:38:12 PM, knucklehead000@yahoo.com wrote:
>The Greatest Love - This one's tough. I checked CD
>Now and came up with The Tams, the Neville Brothers or
>Judy Clay. Anyone know who had the big hit with this?
Dorsey Burnette
>More Today than Yesterday - What a great song. Spiral
>Starecase, I think.
With Patrick Upton on lead vocal
>Don't Leave Me - Another tough one. Either Harry
>Nilsson or Al Green, probably one of them covered the
>other. Any clues as to who had the big hit?
Don't know, but it sure sounds familiar
>My Way - I forget who wrote this, but it's Sinatra's
>signture tune. Or the Sex Pistols, depending on who
>your idols are.
Paul Anka
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:43:25 EST
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Moog Power!
In a message dated 11/22/99 5:17:20 PM, mimim@texas.net wrote:
>>More Today than Yesterday - What a great song. Spiral
>>Starecase, I think.
>Yup. I love it too. Got it on a double-record set called "Something Else
>Again," on Columbia--smells like a bonus lp for members of the Columbia
>Record Club. Also have the 45. B side is "No One For Me to Turn To," a song
>title that reads like a pity-party but the music is bouncy and bright. "She
>may have a groovy face, But no one else can take your place," etc. etc.
I have the original Spiral Starecase LP (bought it when it came out!) and the
whole thing has that groovy "showband" sound of those late 6T's/early 7T's
Holiday Inn white "soul" bands. Blue-eyed, but definitely not tie-dyed, these
bands would launch into medleys by such groups as the Temptations, Four Tops,
or James Brown, or play a slick roster of the current top-40 dance-floor
fillers right off the AM-dial. Someone should put out a compilation of
showbands like these. Its a lost sound. Wayne Cochran comes to mind. Anyone
think of any others? Do I hear a thread? Can I count it
off?...Jimmy/"Sunshine creeping through my window, making teardrops shine
like diamonds. Its been a night of madness but still I see a day of sadness.
You see, since I don't have you, there's no one for me to turn to...girl"
from Spiral Starecase's "No One For Me To Turn To"
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:55:20 -0800
From: Jim Gerwitz <jamesbg@home.com>
Subject: (exotica) The Condo Circuit
The front page of the 11/22/99 WSJ has a story titled "Whatever Happened
To Buddy Greco? He's Doing Fine in Florida." Seems like Buddy, Joel
Grey, Mamie Van Doren, Joey Hetherton, Alan King, Gabe "Kotter" Kaplan
and others of that ilk are making the rounds of the larger Florida
retirement communities (aka "The Condo Circuit") in between the
occasional Vegas and Atlantic City gigs. Grey and King have it written
into their contracts that there will be no advertising.
Says booker Audre Breen: "They do 50 minutes a show, they get a nice
check, and no one knows they've been here except the people at the
condominiums. They can take the money and run.......(but) the audiences
are getting a little jaded...they don't want to see someone that is that
old, because it reminds them they are getting on in age. They want to
see someone younger, stylish, someone wearing pretty clothes. it gives
them a lift." next season, she says, she is bringing in singer Toni
Tennile....
Yikes, Muskrat Love!
Just something to look forward to in the golden years:
APPEARING ONE NIGHT ONLY AT THE SUNCOAST CONDOS AMPITHEATRE: RAGE
AGAINST THE KIDNEY MACHINE!!!!
JB Le Noir
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:38:14 -0500
From: dciccone@inspex.com
Subject: (exotica) Re: Sixth sense
From: Jill Mingo <mingo@easynet.co.uk>
>I don't DJ with types that only decide something is good from
>official lists.
Jill,
What do you mean by "official" lists?
The books and web pages and lists done by many of the folks here on the EML
are a big help for those (like me) who don't have the time or the music
available.
I think its OK to consult lists by people who have similar tastes. But it's
no substitute for first and foremost trusting your own ears. Lists are a
good place to start.
I was just looking at Cheryl's <cheryls@dsuper.net> Playlist For Space Bop,
November 21. And I'm going in my head: wow.. cool....I am always interested
in what you and Chery are doing. Since I have and know 5 or 6 of the
selections I might like the rest.
and from Cheryl:
>(If Jill can DJ in the nude, so can we! Only difference is we'll be
>hiding in the studio, so no one can see us!!!)
But I'll draw the line at DJing naked. I could not DJ naked even if I was
all alone in the studio. That up-tight (unfortunately) here in stogy New
England.
Regards,
Domenic
"Martinis with Mancini" on WJUL 91.5- Fridays 6-9am
http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Booth/8007/
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:00:55 -0500
From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: R Hayman-Voodoo
>
>>>>Well, this is all a matter of taste, I guess, and I'm afraid
>>>>the Shearing covers will remain tasteless in most peoples
>>>>eyes, as will most attempts selling good music with the
>>>>help of unclad ladies. The idea itself is so shallow, it
>>>>automatically tends to draw with it the shallowest of artists.
>>>
>>>Would that include The Slits? ("Cut")
Right up your line if you like bare-breasted women who mud wrestle and take
to tribal hair-styles. The music is great methinks, and the cover conveys
the content and The Slits' "I'll define feminine beauty, thank-you"
attitude. Ton, a glimpse would cure what ails you! Wish I had a scanner to
send you a thumbnail...Mimi
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:54:10 EST
From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Wayno! You out there??
Wayno, please email me off list.
Thanks,
Tiki Bob
All others - HAPPY THANKSGIVING (oh, and Happy Thanksgiving to you too Wayno)
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:23:20 -0500
From: "em are..." <tikihead@att.net>
Subject: [Fwd: (exotica) Re; Tape echo]
> Kristjan Saag wrote:
>
> > ---
> > Oozing vinyl doesn't contain sounds, the sounds are the waveforms that are cut in the grooves. When vinyl starts to ooze it has already lost shape and is unintelligible for the stylus.
>
> Hmmm...?
> If vinyl oooozes and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound???
> I myself am not sure, but all this talk about oozing and vinyl..... Now that's exotic, BABY!
>
> em.
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:22:58 -0500
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG" <crajnai@att.com>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: Another re-echo-cord explanation
> ---
> Now, this sounds like baloney to me. First of all: the plate
> that is made from the master is negative. Whether it is used
> directly for pressing or turned into a mother matrix and then
> to sons doesn't matter.
> Anyway, the end result is vinyl with grooves. But grooves
> dont cross each other as water, if they did the stylus would
> jump or get stuck.
This of course is true. I didn't mean to suggest that the grooves cross.
Its the hydraulics of the vinyl itself. Fractal amounts of vinyl pressure
exist between grooves, which in short time equalize into the grooves,
creating a mirror image of the adjacent groove against the previous (and
following) groove.
And no matter how many molecules that fly
> from one groove to another - to be identified as particular
> sounds, as the sounds that were recorded, entire waveforms
> would have to be transferred from one groove to another.
Again, I am suggesting that the molecules, or vinyl between the grooves are
under varing amounts of pressure directly corresponding to the amplitude and
frequencies of the vinyl matrix.
I apologize for my weak anology.
Charlieman
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:26:26 -0500
From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Moog Power!
At 9:43 PM 11/22/99, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote:
>I have the original Spiral Starecase LP (bought it when it came out!) and t=
he
>whole thing has that groovy "showband" sound of those late 6T's/early 7T's
>Holiday Inn white "soul" bands.
Hey Jimmy, is that LP called anything beyond the title you'd expect...
Spiral Starecase, Heading Up
Spiral Starecase, Spinning Out
Spiral Starecase, More Today Than Yesterday
Did they release any other LPs? Were they one-hit wonders? "Holiday Inn
white soul bands..."...that's it, fella. TIA!
Mimi
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 99 16:28:24 +0100
From: Bissia <eyecon@mail.dma.be>
Subject: (exotica) Re:Duke of Burlington VS Marquis of Kensington
Marquis of Kensington and The Duke of Burlington !
I only had the single of the duke 'flash'
I woul like to see the albums sleeves of both band,
can someone send me scans of the sleeves enclosed to my email
or an usefull url ?
thanks in advance.
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:10:40 -0500
From: "Br. Cleve" <bcleve@pop.tiac.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Nicola Conte
At 7:33 AM -0500 11/22/99, the_curator@eat78rpm.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
>Nicola Conte=Bossa Per Due= 12"
>anyone else heard or have this?
yes, it's quite good.......I picked it up about 5 months ago. Fantastic
Plastic Machine and Ursula 1000 have had it in their sets of late. The
'Mission a Bombay' track works quite nicely into a set of todays ez
breakbeat sound. It's on the excellent Schema labe, whose releases are
always worth checking out.
and speaking of breakbeat rekkids .....don't miss the new Skeewiff 12" on
Jalapeno, which includes a nice beat version of the 'New Avengers' theme,
amonst other groovesters. Skeewiff's other records include a remix of
Michel Legrand's "Come Ray Or Come Charles" and a track called "Punk To
Pink", which mixes 'The Sidewinder' with 'A Shot In The Dark'
br cleve
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:54:56 EST
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Re: Starecase
In a message dated 11/23/99 10:14:35 AM, mimim@texas.net wrote:
>Hey Jimmy, is that LP called anything beyond the title you'd expect...
>Spiral Starecase, Heading Up
>Spiral Starecase, Spinning Out
>Spiral Starecase, More Today Than Yesterday
The third guess never fails
>Did they release any other LPs? Were they one-hit wonders? "Holiday Inn
>white soul bands..."...that's it, fella. TIA!
I believe a second LP came out. Their (three!) hits were:
- -More Today Than Yesterday 4/69
- -No One For Me To Turn To 8/69
- -She's Ready 2/70 (this one's a standard on the Myrtle
Beach "Beach Music" scene from which the dance called the Shag
emerged)
Track listing (for those who care) from the first LP
- -More Today Than Yesterday
- -Broken Hearted Man
- -For Once In My Life
- -This Guy's In Love With You
- -Sweet Little Thing
- -Proud Mary
- -The Thought Of Loving You
- -Our Day Will Come
- -No One For Me To Turn To
- -Since I Don't Have You
- -Judas To The Love We Knew
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:24:34 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Moog Power!
Can't Take My Eyes Off of You by Franki Valli always had that white soul
groovy showband feel for me and it is a rather short medley.
I can also imagine the Buckinghams doing this showband medley stuff. Same
with the Turtles or Grass Roots
By the way a friend of mind saw the Temptations around 70 and they had a
showband medley sound but of their own songs.
Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck
- --- DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote:
> whole thing has that groovy "showband" sound of those late 6T's/early 7T's
> Holiday Inn white "soul" bands. Blue-eyed, but definitely not tie-dyed,
> these
> bands would launch into medleys by such groups as the Temptations, Four
> Tops,
> or James Brown, or play a slick roster of the current top-40 dance-floor
> fillers right off the AM-dial. Someone should put out a compilation of
> showbands like these. Its a lost sound. Wayne Cochran comes to mind. Anyone
>
> think of any others? Do I hear a thread? Can I count it
