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exotica-digest        Friday, November 5 1999        Volume 02 : Number 535



In This Digest:

(exotica) The Heino/Heintje question?
(exotica) Re: 'Caravan' by Enoch Light - 2 versions?
(exotica) Re: Symphonic pop (was Classic REM)
Re: (exotica) Heino
(exotica) "Rare" Exotica CDs - are these any good
Re:  (exotica) Re: Symphonic pop (was Classic REM)
Re: (exotica) Re: Symphonic pop (was Classic REM)
(exotica) good things at WFMU record fair
(exotica) censorship?
Re: (exotica) "Rare" Exotica CDs - are these any good
Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story
Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story
(exotica) collectible rattan furniture for sale
Re: (exotica) censorship?
RE: (exotica) "Rare" Exotica CDs - are these any good
RE: (exotica) Eeek! Lips.
(exotica) Nov 12 in Los Angeles
Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story
Re: (exotica) censorship?
(exotica) Bruce haack
Re:  (exotica) Re: Symphonic pop (was Classic REM)
Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story
Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story
Re: (exotica) Bruce haack
Re: (exotica) The Heino/Heintje question?
Re: (exotica) Bruce haack
Re: (exotica) Bruce haack
(exotica) Didn't RealAudio ask for it?
Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:01:12 -0500
From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Heino/Heintje question?

Moritz & Marco wrote:

> > > We actually have two Heino rcords... One from "before" where he has
> > > the clean Heintje look, and the other "after" complete with the
> > > hairdo and sunglasses.
> > Heintje is not Heino! They both are scary though.
> Does this mean, you really thought Heino was Heintje when he was young, Brian?

I think the two of you have created a thread that is based on a
misread of what I wrote.  I specifically said (see above) the Heintje
'look' ie. the 'appearance' of the clean little Dutch boy.  I don't
see anywhere where I mentioned they were the same person?  I admit I
probably didn't know until a few years back that Heintje was Dutch
and I'm sure many people wouldn't see a big difference judging from
their respective appearances (again the 'early' Heino).  Still I do
see why Moritz finds the comparison so funny as it would be as
politically incorrect as say assuming Brigitte Bardot and Petula
Clark were the same person!  If you ask me the weirdest of all must
be the guy that dreamed up the concept for Heino and judging from the
songs Heino sings you KNOW this person had to be male! Still a better
question for further discussion,  could Heino have possiby emerged
from any country other than Germany, and if so, does he have an
equivalent elsewhere?

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:58:25 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: 'Caravan' by Enoch Light - 2 versions?

Marco wrote:

> [...] it's still not clear which version is on The Exotic Trilogy.

    the one from "Future Sound Shock"
    (Project 3 PR 5077 QD, USA, 1973)

        Johan


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:24:57 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Symphonic pop (was Classic REM)

    i love my "Classic Rock" LP's by The London Philharmonic Orchestra
on K-Tel: big bombastic sympho versions of Bohemian rhapsody, Life on Mars,
A whiter shade of pale, Whole lotta love, Paint it black, Nights in white
satin, Lucy in the sky, Sailing, Pinball wizard, Hey Joe, A day in the
life, Space oddity, River deep mountain high, American trilogy... great
camp.

on "Rhapsody in black" they try to go soul, but with less success.

i stay away however from The London Philharmonic Orchestra, who almost
always add that horrible "boom-tsjak-boom-tsjak-boom-tsjak" disco beat

        Johan


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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 14:57:45 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Heino

At 01:20 PM 11/4/99 +0100, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Does this mean, you really thought Heino was Heintje when he was young,
Brian?
>Just imagining this idea made me laugh so hard, it almost made my day. You
>really extended the concept of pop mutants to an unbelievable degree with
>this.

I understood what Brian meant and I knew he didn't mean that Heintje grew
up to become Heino.  Or mutated, as the case may be.
But I can understand making an association between the two of 'em.
There is something about the name Heino.  I don't think he'd come off as
quite the freak he does if his name were Helmut or if he had a last name to
go along with it.
It's not just the similarities in the names or the fact that "Heintje"
sounds like it means "little Heino".
There's also something about the music.   If you don't listen too hard - or
pay much attention to the language - then Heino can sound like Heintje post
voice change.
It's not exactly the music; it's more the simplicity.
It's actually not too difficult to find records in North America that are
similar to Heintje's.  Records by children singing simple "folk" songs.
It's more difficult for us to find records like this by adults.  We forgive
children for making such records but less so with adults.
Even among the vast array of Christian records, it's still not easy to find
records as silly as Little Marcy's, for instance.
It's not musicologically or "ethnically" correct but if you organize your
records like I do, it's inevitable that you'll have your Heintje record(s)
near your Heino... and I don't mean organizing by alphabetical order
either.  That's just a further coincidence.

Having said all that, I was once playing a Heino record at the store and
there was one tune I genuinely liked in a kind of quasi Nick Cave way.

And I'd be curious to know how unique is Heino in the scheme of German
recording artists.



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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 12:16:26 -0800
From: "Kevin C." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Rare" Exotica CDs - are these any good

Any recomendations (quality, sound) for the albums or tracks contained
here:
http://www.crypt.de/mailorder/strip/strip.htm

Specifically the Jungle Exotica CD or this one:

CD: PEREZ PRADO "VOODOO SUITE/EXOTIC SUITE"
Utter fucking GENIUS reissue of this latin
bongo-voodoo-jungle LP! 35 minutes of wildness PLUS the
CD also includes the entire 30 minutes from the "Exotic
Suite" LP... This stuff whips ass on alla that overhyped
"lounge" crap (Denny, Esquivel,etc)

Uh, wasn't Martin Denny on the Exotic Suite album?

Any input is greatly appreciated!

- -Kevin Crossman


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:54:48 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re: Symphonic pop (was Classic REM)

In a message dated 11/4/99 1:06:54 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

> horrible "boom-tsjak-boom-tsjak-boom-tsjak" disco beat

Horrible? the Disco sound IS the easy listening AND dancing sound of the
7T's. Think of Silvetti,  Lipstique, MFSB, Salsoul Orchestra, El Coco, El
Bimbo, Le Pamplemousse, Rice & Beans Orchestra and Love Unlimited Orchestra.
Disco was really underground gay and black club music until people began
demanding that record shops carry some of the jams they heard in clubs. Then
the split: vocal groups formerly considered "soul" began to sing with more
uptempo arrangements for a dancing nation. But for easy listeners, many
intrumental and wordless vocals also were made, using the same disco beat. I
cannot disagree more that disco was horrible. It reminds me of all the
punkers in the late 7T's and early 8T's that went around whining "Disco
Sucks." I even have found Lawrence Welk and Percy Faith (Theme From A
Summerplace '76) using disco arrangements. Usually around here, the Disco
Sucks people are the types who couldn't shake a tail feather because they're
petrified of appearing gay....And that's the thing: Disco started out gay
more than black. ... Jimmy/dismounting the pulpit now


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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:41:06 +0100
From: "«" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Symphonic pop (was Classic REM)

[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 11/4/99 1:06:54 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > horrible "boom-tsjak-boom-tsjak-boom-tsjak" disco beat
>
> Horrible? the Disco sound IS the easy listening AND dancing sound of the
> 7T's.

As much as I like disco myself, it is very well possible, that an unmotivated
straight beat dubbed over plastic classic arrangements can suck. Neither do I
see Johan's remark as a statement against disco, nor do I fancy the London
Philharmonic Orchestra as anything like a funky, sexy, gay, black or whatever.
So relax, Jimmy, we LOVE disco anyway!

Mo

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http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/masterpieces.html
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:12:16 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (B.R. Rolya)
Subject: (exotica) good things at WFMU record fair

Shameless self-promotion follows:

If you happen to be at the WFMU Record Fair in NYC this weekend (125 W.
18th St. - near 6th Ave.), please drop by the Triage Distribution table on
Saturday!

Aside from indie rock gems and avant-garde treasures, we'll have the
following items of interest for sale:
- - For the first time ever on US shores, releases from France on Bertand
Burgalat's label Tricatel.
- - The entire Lithium (France) catalogue (Dominique A, Francoiz Breut, etc.)
- - Don Tiki (aloha!)
- - "Schoolgirl Report" on Crippled Dick Hot Wax (yeah, we've got posters)
- - DJ Franco's "Nymphomania" compilations
- - all of the Desco releases (Dakataris, Lee Fields, "Revenge of Mr.
Mopoji", etc.)
- - and while not quite exotica, there's always 16 year old Marianne Nowottny
from New Jersey; "imagine Dietrich covering Tim Buckley", according to the
New York Press

We won't be selling them, but I know that Mr. "Ultra Chicks" will be there
and will have those wonderful compilations for sale.

(all of these items will soon be available via mail order as well)


- - BR
Triage
promotion - publicity - distribution
212-989-4545
[e-mail]
www.triagemusic.com




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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 23:14:16 +0100
From: "«" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) censorship?

Did this ever happen to you: Certain mails to the list don't get posted.
I send them once, I send them twice, they don't arrive, while other
postings I sent at the same time do arrive. Is this list censored,
Laszlo?

Mo



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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:19:41 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Rare" Exotica CDs - are these any good

>CD: PEREZ PRADO "VOODOO SUITE/EXOTIC SUITE"
>Utter fucking GENIUS reissue of this latin
>bongo-voodoo-jungle LP! 35 minutes of wildness PLUS the
>CD also includes the entire 30 minutes from the "Exotic
>Suite" LP... This stuff whips ass on alla that overhyped
>"lounge" crap (Denny, Esquivel,etc)
>
>Uh, wasn't Martin Denny on the Exotic Suite album?


i think the CD is comprised of Perez Prado's "Voodoo Suite" LP (with
Shorty Rogers)  and his "Exotic Suite of the Americas" (which is NOT
the Denny/Zenter LP "Exotica Suite").

all three records are great (particularly "Voodoo Suite" IMHO) and
can been seen on my website:


http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/lp/Selections36.html

http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/lp/Selections47.html

http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/lp/Selections103.html

visit...

  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
            King Kini's  C L U B  V E L V E T
              http://www.tamboo.com
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:06:36 +0100
From: "«" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story

Brian Karasick wrote:

> Moritz & Marco wrote:
>
> > > > We actually have two Heino rcords... One from "before" where he h=
as
> > > > the clean Heintje look, and the other "after" complete with the
> > > > hairdo and sunglasses.
> > > Heintje is not Heino! They both are scary though.
> > Does this mean, you really thought Heino was Heintje when he was youn=
g, Brian?
>
> I think the two of you have created a thread that is based on a misread=
 of what I
> wrote.

That's why I asked. Actually I don't mind, I like this idea too much! I w=
ish I
could write screen plays.  I see it all before my imaginary eye...


Little Heintje grows up in a very flat part of Holland. His mother wears =
wooden
shoes, his father is a slide-shoe maker and there is a tulip field and a =
windmill
behind the house. All Heintje can speak at this age is "Mama". A man from=
 Philips
record company comes into the village and discovers him. Soon he has a N=B0=
1 charts
hit with "Mama". Especially German mothers and housewifes fall in love wi=
th the
cute little rascal and so he runs from one success to another.

Cut. Heintje is 13 now and gets into his puberty vocal change. He develop=
s a very
deep voice. Since he was so successful in Germany all over those years, h=
e speaks
perfect German, yet with a heavy Dutch accent. Standing in front of brigh=
t studio
lights all the time his eyes have become a bit sensible. Also his hair ha=
s started
to fall out, because all mothers and housewifes always caress his head wh=
en they
meet him at concerts.

Something has to be done. His managment starts a brainstorming; what can =
we do with
a boy that all mothers want to huddle and cuddle, now that he has this de=
ep
frightening voice. Of course they decide upon a new image for Heintje, so=
mething
more adult. Of course the name has to be changed, since a diminuitive is =
only
appropriate for a little boy, so Heintje is turned into "Heino". To conne=
ct to the
success he had in Germany, and since Volksmusik has become a really big m=
arket, the
managment decides, Heino should sing German folks songs. And so it happen=
s! Heino
gats a blond wig to cover his baldness and wears sunglasses to be able to=
 stand the
lime light of German television studios. His first recordings sound a lit=
tle bit
funny, when he sings "Schwarz-braun ist die Haselnuss" with a Dutch accen=
t. But
after a while he drops that accent, has success after success and gets fa=
mous all
over the world. He's rich and looks like the weirdest Dutch guy that ever=
 made it
into show biz.

Only sometimes, when Heino gets the Blues, he secretly drives back to his=
 home
village in Holland behind the dam in the middle of the night, picks up so=
me tulips
and brings them to his old mother. She always has a big piece of Leerdame=
r for him,
his favorite food, and so they sit silently together, eat cheese and watc=
h his
latest show in German television....


> Still a better
> question for further discussion,  could Heino have possiby emerged
> from any country other than Germany, and if so, does he have an
> equivalent elsewhere?

There is this Colombian guy... only difference to Heino: He doesn't sing,=
 instead
he kills children.

Mo



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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:17:39 +0100
From: "«" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story

Brian Karasick wrote:

> Moritz & Marco wrote:
>
> > > > We actually have two Heino rcords... One from "before" where he h=
as
> > > > the clean Heintje look, and the other "after" complete with the
> > > > hairdo and sunglasses.
> > > Heintje is not Heino! They both are scary though.
> > Does this mean, you really thought Heino was Heintje when he was youn=
g, Brian?
>
> I think the two of you have created a thread that is based on a misread=
 of what I
> wrote.

That's why I asked. Actually I don't mind, I like this idea too much! I w=
ish I
could write screen plays.  I see it all in front of my inner eye...


Little Heintje grows up in a very flat part of Holland. His mother wears =
wooden
shoes, his father is a slide-shoe maker and there is a tulip field and a =
windmill
behind the house. All Heintje can speak at this age is "Mama". A man from=
 Philips
record company comes into the village and discovers him. Soon he has a N=B0=
1 charts
hit with "Mama". Especially German mothers and housewifes fall in love wi=
th the
cute little rascal and so he runs from one success to another.

Cut. Heintje is 13 now and gets into his puberty vocal change. He develop=
s a very
deep voice. Since he was so successful in Germany all over those years, h=
e speaks
perfect German, yet with a heavy Dutch accent. Standing in front of brigh=
t studio
lights all the time his eyes have become a bit sensible. Also his hair ha=
s started
to fall out, because all mothers and housewifes always caress his head wh=
en they
meet him at concerts.

Something has to be done. His managment starts a brainstorming; what can =
we do with
a boy that all mothers want to huddle and cuddle, now that he has this de=
ep
frightening voice. Of course they decide upon a new image for Heintje, so=
mething
more adult. Of course the name has to be changed, since a diminuitive is =
only
appropriate for a little boy, so Heintje is turned into "Heino". To conne=
ct to the
success he had in Germany, and since Volksmusik has become a really big
market, the
managment decides, Heino should sing German folks songs. And so it happen=
s! Heino
gats a blond wig to cover his baldness and wears sunglasses to be able to
stand the
lime light of German television studios. His first recordings sound a lit=
tle bit
funny, when he sings "Schwarz-braun ist die Haselnuss" with a Dutch accen=
t. But
after a while he drops that accent, has success after success and gets fa=
mous all
over the world. He's rich and looks like the weirdest Dutch guy that ever=
 made it
into show biz.

Only sometimes, when Heino gets the Blues, he secretly drives back to his=
 home
village in Holland behind the dam in the middle of the night, picks up so=
me tulips
and brings them to his old mother. She always has a big piece of Leerdame=
r for him,
his favorite food, and so they sit silently together, eat cheese and watc=
h his
latest show in German television....


> Still a better
> question for further discussion,  could Heino have possiby emerged
> from any country other than Germany, and if so, does he have an
> equivalent elsewhere?

There is this Colombian guy... only difference to Heino: He doesn't sing,=
 instead
he kills children.

Mo


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:06:05 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) collectible rattan furniture for sale

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:05:47 -0700
From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) censorship?

On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 11:14:16PM +0100, =AE wrote:

> Did this ever happen to you: Certain mails to the list don't get posted.
> I send them once, I send them twice, they don't arrive, while other
> postings I sent at the same time do arrive. Is this list censored,
> Laszlo?

Nope.  There are a few things that aren't allowed to be posted (virus war=
nings
and the like, all of which are detailed in the list intro message) but
postings that are rejected are sent back to the poster so nothing should =
ever
disappear silently.

Some systems don't deal too well with high-ASCII characters, especially i=
n
headers.  Maybe that's why you're having problems -- that ASCII 256 in yo=
ur
name field could be what's doing it.

- --=20
    Lazlo Nibble - [e-mail] - http://www.studio-nibble.com
                                                                         =
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:19:03 -0800
From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) "Rare" Exotica CDs - are these any good

>Any recomendations...
>
>Specifically the Jungle Exotica CD or this one:
>CD: PEREZ PRADO "VOODOO SUITE/EXOTIC SUITE"

Jungle Exotica is not at all like the Martin Denny, Les Baxter, etc. genre.
Think more like bar bands playing at a neighborhood luau.  It's exotica in
the sense that songs like "limbo rock" or "The lion sleeps tonight" are
exotica.  But, some of the music is really catchy.

Voodoo Suite is great.

Jerry



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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:19:04 -0800
From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Eeek! Lips.

Cafe Java Bongo, Cafe Noir, and Cafe Tango Mambo are all well worth the
$5.99 I paid for each, even though they are quite short and the Bongo CD is
a little repetitive.  I also bought Cafe Paris, which is not nearly as good.

Jerry

- -----Original Message-----
I checked out eclipse music:

http://www.eclipse-music.com/


They have tried to disguise the original sources somewhat, but it isn't
too difficult to pick out some winners from their cheap (albeit short)
CDs.

Here is what I ordered:Cafe Java Bongo, Cafe Noir, Cafe Tango Mambo,
Cafe Tango Mambo, Cole Porter (from their Broadway series) and George
Gershwin (also from Broadway).

Irving Joseph, Al Caiola and Hugo Montenegro are represented.



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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 03:26:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Nov 12 in Los Angeles

Sacre Bleu!

The grooviest girl in Gaul is coming to L.A.!

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 11:34:53 +0100
From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story

>Little Heintje grows up in a very flat part of Holland.

Not quite true, even though it's fiction it simply stretches my
imagination... Heintje grew up in the Dutch mountains (at their
highest peak about 300 meters above sea level, thats an Everest
in Dutch terms) in the Southern province of Limburg, close to
the German border. And Holland (two provinces in the west of The
Netherlands) has no very flat parts, it's flat all over and, if
it weren't for the dunes, the dykes and the pumping machines,
very wet.

>He's rich and looks like the weirdest Dutch guy that ever made it
>into show biz

Pardon?

Are you saying that Heino at a certain age turns into Vader Abraham?

Cheers, Ton


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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 12:36:26 +0100
From: Mo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) censorship?

Lazlo Nibble wrote:

>  Is this list censored,
> > Laszlo?
>
> Nope.   Maybe that's why you're having problems -- that ASCII 256 in your
> name field could be what's doing it.
>

Oke.. I changed it. Meanwhile my post arrived... 20 hours later!

Mo



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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:16:19 -0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Bruce haack

Does anyone know if the Bruce Haack compilation on Emperor Norton has
actually been released yet?  The dates are for late October,  but when I
looked at the Emperor Norton site recently it wasn't in the shop,  and there
were no more details.  If it has,  does anyone have any views on it?

Thanks

El Maestro Con Queso

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:53:31 +0100
From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re: Symphonic pop (was Classic REM)

>I even have found Lawrence Welk and Percy Faith (Theme From A
>Summerplace '76) using disco arrangements.

uhmmm heheh I just remembered this crappy vinyl collection that someone
gave to my father as a gift circa 1985... it was a boxed set by Richard
Clayderman and he is supposed to be a piano player... heh... but there are
a couple of medleys incorprating famous classical music pieces (one of them
titled -er- "Bach gammon" ;)) with a sort of disco arrangment...

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 16:12:16 +0100
From: Mo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story

Ton Rueckert wrote:

> >Little Heintje grows up in a very flat part of Holland.
>
> Heintje grew up in the Dutch mountains (at their
> highest peak about 300 meters above sea level, thats an Everest
> in Dutch terms) in the Southern province of Limburg, close to
> the German border.

No problem. Thanks for any additional ideas. We'll make Limburger his favorite
cheese and take the mountains as an explanation for his tendencies to become a
Volksmusik star... great! Let's write the book together, Ton!

> Are you saying that Heino at a certain age turns into Vader Abraham?

This would of course top the whole story! Great! It's getting better and
better! It would go like this:

Heino gets old. Nobody wants to listen to his music anymore. As he has made
enough money for the rest of his life, he decides to become a dirty old man
and performs another, final mutation, that allows him to return to Holland: He
becomes Vader Abraham. His first single is called "Deine Monatsbinde" (Your
Sanitary Towel)...

etc.
Mo






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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 16:19:11 +0100
From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story

Mo wrote:

> Heino gets old. Nobody wants to listen to his music anymore. As he has made
> enough money for the rest of his life, he decides to become a dirty old man
> and performs another, final mutation, that allows him to return to Holland: He
> becomes Vader Abraham. His first single is called "Deine Monatsbinde" (Your
> Sanitary Towel)...

Where does Heino's son fit into the whole story? I recently saw him on German tv.
His name is... Uwe Heino Junior. And I'm not making this up. Strange thing was
that he looked older than his father.

Marco

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 10:28:23 -0500
From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bruce haack

Hi, EMCQ,

1) Yes the Bruce Haack/Esther Nelson Dimension 5 reissue on Emperor
Norton is out.

2) The initial pressing is apparently sold out, and they are repressing
more. That doesn't mean it isn't in the stores, etc., so check your
favorite local store which carries such things.

3) The word is that the album might be featured on Amazon.com, which
would make it very accessible via internet...

4) How is it? Are you familiar with the Dimension 5 material? It's an
excellent selection of some of the very wacky material on this
independent  'children's' label. I'm only slightly biased- I know Miss
Nelson and I did the tape transfers for the record. It is not deeply
musical in a straight sense, but has a very wonderful flavor of fun and
strangeness, and is also catchy (the tunes stick in your mind long after
most other music has fled).

hope that helps,

citizen kafka

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 17:04:37 +0100
From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Heino/Heintje question?

Brian Karasick wrote:

> I think the two of you have created a thread that is based on a
> misread of what I wrote.  I specifically said (see above) the Heintje
> 'look' ie. the 'appearance' of the clean little Dutch boy.  I don't
> see anywhere where I mentioned they were the same person?

Sorry, I interpreted it that way. And actually I'm glad I did! This thread is really
great. We could do a nice website about this mutation theory. Maybe we should
include some alien abductions and a bit about the CIA?
Anyway, I didn't realise that Heintje was known outside Germany, the Netherlands and
Belgium. He still turns up on German tv every once in a while. Now under his full
name of Hein Simons. He even has a little daughter that sings with him. History's
repeating... And oh yes, we have a new Heintje here in Holland. His name is Jantje
Smit. Same voice, same schmaltz.

Marco

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:46:00 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bruce haack

In a message dated 11/05/99 10:27:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< 4) How is it? Are you familiar with the Dimension 5 material? It's an
 excellent selection of some of the very wacky material on this
 independent  'children's' label. I'm only slightly biased- I know Miss
 Nelson and I did the tape transfers for the record. It is not deeply
 musical in a straight sense, but has a very wonderful flavor of fun and
 strangeness, and is also catchy (the tunes stick in your mind long after
 most other music has fled).
  >>

Emperor Norton usually has RealAudio clips.  They don't have these for the
new Haack?????

TB


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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 12:10:36 -0600
From: Kerry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bruce haack

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/05/99 10:27:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
> writes:
>
> << 4) How is it? Are you familiar with the Dimension 5 material? It's an
>  excellent selection of some of the very wacky material on this
>  independent  'children's' label. I'm only slightly biased- I know Miss
>  Nelson and I did the tape transfers for the record. It is not deeply
>  musical in a straight sense, but has a very wonderful flavor of fun and
>  strangeness, and is also catchy (the tunes stick in your mind long after
>  most other music has fled).
>   >>
>
> Emperor Norton usually has RealAudio clips.  They don't have these for the
> new Haack?????

I know that the Bruce Haack web site has audio clips,
and I think some of the clips are tracks on the new
compilation.

http://www.brucehaack.com

What a coincidence, I was just listening to "Hush Little Robot"
this morning.

- --

Kerry
np: Moog Indigo


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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:29:47 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Didn't RealAudio ask for it?

Remember that URL m.ace posted about RealAudio spying on people who
downloaded RA software and music? Well...I suggest we find where the
hackers mentioned below posted the code that unlocks DVD files, raid the RA
site, and give some hell to those prying bastards.

Smiling sweetly,
Mimi

HACKERS BREAK DVD CODE
The code used to protect DVD-formatted movies from being copied has been
broken by programmers who have shared their work on the Internet, making it
possible for anyone with a personal computer with a DVD-ROM drive to unlock
a DVD movie and record a digital copy of it. There are differing opinions
about what consequences this development will have. Industry analyst Corey
Wade downplays the likelihood of any immediate impact on the entertainment
industry: "Despite the hype, I don't think a lot of people want to watch a
movie on their computer. When they hear about this sort of stuff, people
think it's going to change everything in five minutes, but your average
person who goes to Blockbuster isn't going to be doing this." (Washington
Post 4 Nov 99)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/business/A18205-1999Nov3.html




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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:41:51 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Heintje/Heino story

Marco \\Kallie\\ Kalnenek wrote:

> Where does Heino's son fit into the whole story? I recently saw him on German tv.
> His name is... Uwe Heino Junior. And I'm not making this up. Strange thing was
> that he looked older than his father.


This just boggles the mind....


cheryl


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