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exotica-digest          Sunday, July 25 1999          Volume 02 : Number 458



In This Digest:

(exotica) Davie Allan & The Arrows tour dates
(exotica) western shwing
Re: (exotica) Leferve/Ros/Aldritch/etc
Re: (exotica) Zoomer, the beatnik tiki robot
Re: (exotica) Re: Velvet Underground and other Piles of Shit
Re: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste
Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo covers
(exotica) Peyton Place
(exotica) (very off topic) compuserve ok?
Re: (exotica) Billy Tipton (was Western Swing)
(exotica) Moogs, Moons, Marimbas, and More
(exotica) Andrew Edgar
(exotica) Edmundo Ros!
RE: (exotica) Western Swing
(exotica) Re: Western Swing
Re: (exotica) Re: Test Card Classics......
Re: (exotica) Zoomer, the beatnik tiki robot
(exotica) Tiki Bob's Lament
Re: (exotica) Western Swing
(exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, July 25
(exotica) Re: Western Swing
(exotica) Western Swing
(exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???
Re: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste
(exotica) legal low-power FM possibility
Re: (exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???
Re: (exotica) Re: Test Card Classics......
(exotica) Yet another exotica poem
(exotica) Re: "Exotiquarium"
Re: (exotica) Re: "Exotiquarium"
Re: (exotica) Re: Western Swing
Re: (exotica) Western Swing
(exotica) Command on CD

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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:00:55 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Davie Allan & The Arrows tour dates

OK, not exactly exotica, but the band does do a Mancini cover, so that's
reason enough to list here (besides, we know that several of you on this list
love Davie)!

7/27 - NY - Continental Club - 25 3rd Ave. - [phone]
7/28 - Portland, ME - Free St. Tavern - 128 Free St. - [phone]
7/29 - Montreal - Jailhouse Rock - 30 Mt. Royal St. - [phone]
7/30 - Toronto - El Mocambo - 464 Spadina Ave. - [phone]
7/31 - Detroit - Magic Stick - 4219 Woodward Ave. - [phone]
8/1   - Milwaukee - Cactus Club - 2496 S. Wentworth Ave - [phone]
8/2   - Iowa City, IA - Gabe's - 330 E. Washington - [phone]
8/3   - St. Louis - Side Door - 2005 Locust St. - [phone]
8/5   - Atlanta, GA - Star Bar - 437 Moreland Ave. - [phone]
8/6   - Asheville, NC - Stella Blue - 31 Patton Ave. - [phone]
8/7   - Chapel Hill, NC - Local 506 (Sleazefest) 506 W. Franklin -
[phone]
8/10 - Chicago - Lounge Axe - 2438 N. Lincoln Ave. - [phone]
8/11 - Buffalo - Mohawk Place - 47 E. Mohawk - [phone]
8/12 - Cleveland - Pat's in the Flats - 2233 W. 3rd St. - [phone]
8/13 - Philadelphia - Upstairs at Nick's - 16 S.Second - [phone]
8/14 - Hoboken, NJ - Maxwell's - [phone]

Hope to see some of you...thanks

Lee/Dionysus Records/Davie's bass player


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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (kevin leeeeee)
Subject: (exotica) western shwing

it's the heat right?

thanks to steve again for that awesome dense list.  you rule.

billy strange might be a good "bridge" between the more traditional exotica
stuff and the country/western thing.  there was a "strange country"
compilation out a few years ago i think.  i have a billy strange lp from
70's where he does a lot of tv show themes.  seems like the 70's was the
peak of the tv show theme.  i mean, how many cover albums come out these
days featuring only tv show themes?

speedy west i can also add my recommendation whatever that's worth.
there's that whole slide guitar hawaii/western thing there, further proving
the relevancy of this relevant topic.

of course then there's lee hazlewood....

it saddens me that people, esp. in america, have practically abandoned
western swing.  and country for that matter.  whatever is passing for
popular country nowadays is about as country as a lot of those alleged
"ska" bands today are actual jamaican ska music (sorry, not meant to
generate flame, just trying to make a point).  support your local bluegrass
and swing musicians and maybe the music won't completely die out.

also recommended, pbs did a great series on the history of country and
western. clearly distinguishing the two genres.  did a good job as far as a
general overview and giving "props" to those such as bob wills.  can't
remember the name, but i did tape it... i think.

personal note, in ann arbor michigan i used to listen to this western swing
dj every saturday morning on wcbn-fm.  i grew up pretty much hearing that
every saturday when i'd go buy comic books cos the owner, norm, would
always play it.  i hated it at first.  about as funky or cool as a golf
club.  but then it got to me, cant say when or why.  but one day i realized
how fucking cool this music was.  this took many years, btw., probably
after norm closed his comic store.

i also USED to hate: the carpenters, the fifth dimension, blues, country,
hippie dippy stuff in the vein of free design...

still dislike for the most part:  classical period classical music, polkas,
new age, (most) folk music...

but i never hated: herb alpert, popcorn, pink panther theme, 70's tv show themes

peace, love, and all that shit.
kevin leeeeee





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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:20:03 +0200
From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Leferve/Ros/Aldritch/etc

[e-mail] wrote:

> What about the others? Frank Chacksfield always seemed drippy to me, and Ramond
> Leferve just a bit dull.

There's a GREAT cd by Raymond Lefevre, featuring his scores for the 'gendarme'
movies by Louis de FunΦs. It's not dull at all. Very entertaining and nicely
packaged. I think Johan agrees on this one :-)

Marco


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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:20:22 +0200
From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Zoomer, the beatnik tiki robot

Sandberg Magnus wrote:

> I am Zoomer
> Not annoying to much i hope,
> gotta split the scene

You have been playing too much Western Swing lately! :-)

Marco



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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:20:44 +0200
From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Velvet Underground and other Piles of Shit

Peter Risser wrote:

> And besides, a lesson we've learned a billion and one times on this
> list, a good tune transcends all genres, arrangable in any style.
>
> This list, like the other lists I am part of, is exceptional, only
> because it leaps librarian-driven category boundaries, drawing links
> between all sorts of music.--

I can only heartily agree. And that's the way I like to play records too: one
moment Yma Sumac is in my cd-player, five minutes later I feel like playing
something by John Coltrane and after that I may dig out the first Velvet
Underground album or maybe even some country record (yes, I have a few of those
- - nothing wrong with Hank Williams or Johnny Cash!). An open mind, now that's
what I call really exotic!

Marco


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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:00:49 +0100 (BST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste

> Peter Hipwell has (is) lovingly compiling a Studio 2 Discography (and a
> Phase 4 discography).  Here is the URL:
> http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~petehip/home.html
> I think it was his post about the pages that started the phase 4 thread,
> that came back through studio 2 to the same place.  Indeed they are both
> mighty diverse labels.  Mighty and  Diverse.  You would have to be a
> complete completist to want the lot on either,  I wouldn't buy anything
> on either label just because it was on the label.  But there are some
> really great records on both.

There's an explanation of what the 'phase 4' name means here:

  http://www.concentric.net/~oakapple/gasdisc/decca_phase4.htm

and an interview with the Phase 4 producer here with a few comments about
mono/stereo and 'bachelor pad music':

  http://home.earthlink.net/~mercmoon/damato1.html



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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:07:05 +0100 (BST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo covers

> In a message dated 7/23/99 12:18:08 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >However, even the really lousy S2 albums benefit from the amazing recording
> >techniques and sound great.
>
> To say nothing of the covers. Even the military marching bands and Scottish
> kilt fellas' bands have covers that look brand spankin' new. If nothing else,
> Studio 2 provides excellent wall art.

For modern art/psychedelic covers I like classical records too. Some are real
masterpieces: blocks of colour, geometric patterns, spirals, cut-up photos etc.
Often worth looking through (in addition to the fact that easy listening stuff
often ends up in the same box)


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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 09:58:08 -0700
From: Larson/Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Peyton Place

The other day I was watching a series called "The 50's" (taped off the =
History Channel), and when the topic got to the book "Peyton Place" =
there was a wonderful audio excerpt of someone reading a paragraph or so =
from the book.  It sounded like the author, Grace Metalious, but I =
haven't been able to determine if there is actually a recording =
somewhere of her reading from her book.  Does anyone know about this?
Thanks,
Jerry



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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 11:32:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (kevin leeeeee)
Subject: (exotica) (very off topic) compuserve ok?

hi,
i'm really sorry to bother you all but i'm trying to see if anyone can
dis-recommend compuserve???

i don't know anyone who uses it.  but they have this free computer deal
thing but you have to sign a 3 year contract with them. very scary.

sorry again.

kevin leeeeee

ps  please email me responses off-list.




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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:51:22 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Billy Tipton (was Western Swing)

>Moritz wrote about Billy Tipton:
>
>> Billy Tipton was a woman who wanted
>> play the bandstand but couldn't get gigs wearing her dress. So she lived
>> her life as a man,

>Zounds! That's pretty exotic... You mean s/he did all this for being in a
>band?

Well, you know those wacky artists, Mo. Anything for their art.

Sure there were other reasons. But Billy started x-dressing to get work to
support herself and her mother.

When she was a teenager, Billy began to play gigs in her hometown of Tulsa,
OK. In the late 20s Tulsa was a jumpin' place with lots of jazz clubs and
the beginnings of western swing. She had good chops as a piano and sax
player and more skill than a lot of other pros she auditioned with -- she
could read and arrange music and her playing swung. But bands wouldn't hire
her because touring with a single woman at the time was verboten. Plus,
this was the Depression, so living was hard for everyone. When she got a
good gig after auditioning in x-dress, Billy lived part-time as a man. Her
path was sealed when she fell in love an older women, described as a butch
lesbian, in _Suits Me_.

Diane Middlebrook suggests that Billy found other payoffs as a man: the
love of docile, somewhat sheltered women, freedom to become a bandleader,
stylin' duds and a fling as a playboy, opportunities to express his
creativity and hold the spotlight, satistfaction as the considerate
caretaker of his women and adopted sons, and a mentor to younger musicians.
And money. He could make better money as a man, even though he was stuck
for most of his career in second- or third-tier jobs in supper and
nightclubs through the American Midwest and Northwest.

Billy went to incredible lengths to maintain the pretense: shaving twice a
day when he was gigging, for instance. He surrounded himself with people
who were too naive or too egocentric to see through him. He deflected
questions with a joke or a lie or outright evasion. He was constantly
dogged by fears that he'd be found out. In the late 50s he stopped
performing, just as the Billy tipton Trio was on the verge of making it.
They were getting better jobs than ever before, playing warmup for Liberace
in Las Vegas and LA, among others, plus the record contracts. Middlebrook
argues -- quite convincingly -- that Billy had entered the realm of
big-time entertainment, where his new peers had the sophistication to catch
him at his ruse. He withdrew to a small town in Washington state and worked
as a booking agent until he died in 1989. Sadly, only at his death did
Billy win the fame he'd wanted. The news media worldwide reported his death
not because he was a well-known musician but because of the scale of his
deception.

I've never heard any of Tipton's music, and I'd love to. If anyone has the
Tops lps, _Sweet Georgia Brown_ (56) or _Billy Tipton Plays Hi-Fi on Piano_
(56 or 57), I'm ready to buy. A detailed description would please me too.
Please contact me offlist.

I don't know if there are any translations of _Suits Me_. Is a paper
edition is in print? Got me. It's likely because Middlebrook is a respected
writer whose _Ann Sexton_, a bio of the American poet, was nominated for
the National Book Award, a big deal here. Read it as a fascinating social
history of the Swing Era that raises lots of subtle questions about gender,
sexuality, and tolerance. It's an amazing story.  And yes, Mo, to most
people Billy's life would be exotic. But then artists are pretty exotic to
most people too.

Suiting up,
Mimi




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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:38:16 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Moogs, Moons, Marimbas, and More

I have an EBay auction with pretty friendly minimum bids.  I hate to solicit but
I do have:

Moon Gas - Hyman/Mayo
It's About Time - Tonto
Several Martin Denny
Several Arthur Lyman
Several more in the next day or two

Check them out at:
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=mcwax

Thanks for looking.

Matt




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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:24:16 +0200
From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Andrew Edgar

Am I the only one
who thinks
this boring brit
is serious pain?

sorry, had to get it out of me
wrong of me
edgar
very welcome to the list
very very very welcome
M



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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:50:34 -0500
From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Edmundo Ros!

Cheryl wrote:
> Personally, I will gladly trade away the one or two Frank Chacksfield
> LPs that have found their way into my collection.  But Edmundo Ros???
> This is the man who released "Latin Love In"! While some of his releases
> are better than others, I consider him among the better "exotica"
> musicians, and I believe that he deserves a home in any exotica
> collection.  But then, that's just my humble little opinion.
Edmundo Ros' "Dance Again" was so good, we had trouble deciding
which tracks NOT to play in a previous Space Bop.  This one,
along with Werner Mueller's "Hawaiian Swing", are two of our
favourites in the Phase 4 series.  Of course other Ros and Mueller
Phase 4 releases are not as strong so best to listen first. These two
however, are guaranteed to please!

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:15:47 -0700
From: Larson/Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing

So do you want to also ban discussion of Morricone's Spaghetti Western =
Soundtracks?  And Dean Martin's western recordings? =20

I love crossover tracks like Nat King Cole's "The Ballad of Cat Ballou," =
or Les Paul's version of "The Chicken Reel."  And "16 Tons" by Tennessee =
Ernie Ford is simply one of the great songs in any genre. =20

I personally don't think that discussing western-type recordings puts us =
in danger of becoming a Garth Brooks group.  I doubt that most people on =
the list work at a Ford plant and go to rodeos on the weekend.  But =
that's just my opinion.

Jerry


- -----Original Message-----
From:    Andrew Edgar [SMTP:[e-mail]]
Sent:    Friday, July 23, 1999 6:14 AM
To:    'Brian Phillips'; exotica mailing list
Subject:    RE: (exotica) Western Swing


This all sounds pretty awful, this is supposed to be for exotica, not
mainstream C+W garbage, the next thing will be discussions on Kenny =
Rodgers,
then Rita Coolidge, Dwighht Yoakum, Then Garth Brookes.




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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:25:37 -0500
From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Western Swing

I have to say that the mention of C&W music is something that
usually sets my stomach spinning but I think one must separate the
Nashville pop crossover schlock from the more sincere "western"
music, aka early Johnny Cash, Frankie Laine, etc.  And I'm embarrased
to say that I had no appreciation whatsoever for this stuff before
Moritz sent me a cassette... from Germany!

I still need to find out more about Quebec's own country music of
which I know very little beyond Willy Lamothe, a pseudo Wayne Newton
look alike singer and some time actor.

 Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:51:17 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Test Card Classics......

In a message dated 7/23/99 1:45:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I'm still waiting for all of those drive-in snack bar ad music
accompaniments - >>

Let's go out to the Lobby . . . . . . . .



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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:01:55 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Zoomer, the beatnik tiki robot

In a message dated 7/24/99 3:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Sandberg Magnus wrote:

 > I am Zoomer
 > Not annoying to much i hope,
 > gotta split the scene

 You have been playing too much Western Swing lately! :-)

 Marco
  >>


Maybe the tiki robot's name is "Tumor" as in the kind growing on his brain.
(That might explain him listening to Western Swing [you know - that Redneck
smelly shit music]).

Actually I like WS and have enjoyed the "exchange" regarding this and the
interesting post.

Being remarkably quiet (village) on the swing subject,

Tiki Bob


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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:10:44 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bob's Lament

oh Exotic List what do you say?
topics vary in a "shitty" way.

the enchanted seas to england do row
but alas i learn that western swing does blow.

what would martin, or les, or amy say?
well, the latter did cussed out an audience one day.

so does a bastard make one who would call denny jazz?
and is it inapproriate to call such one retard or spaz?

oh i know how to judge exotica the best
and forget the tiki torching flames of nary a pest.

it's the beat man, the heat man, the bongo beat to a throb.

yes that is exotica - in the heart of this bob.

Thanks for the inspiration Mag,

Tiki Bob


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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:14:47 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing

In a message dated 7/24/99 12:11:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I personally don't think that discussing western-type recordings puts us
in danger of becoming a Garth Brooks group.  I doubt that most people on the
list work at a Ford plant and go to rodeos on the weekend.  But that's just
my opinion. >>


I really find this discussion interesting.  I don't enjoy current rock music
but I do like the Oldies Rock  (you know 50's and 60's stuff).

I don't like country music a lot either but I (an don't others???) admit that
current country music is more like the early rock of what we now call the
Oldies era.

So Tiki Bob does join in on the discusion!  And to add a little excitment I
will include a cuss word.  Bitch.

Tiki Bob


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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:45:06 -0400
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, July 25

Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal,
Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

All comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #58   Blame It On The Bossa Nova

Gotz Alsmann:  Va Ba Ba Boom  "Gestatten"
Montefiori Cocktail:  So, What's New  "Raccolta No. 1"
Klaus Wunderlich:  Felicidade  "Sound 2000"
Hugo Strasser:  Exodus/Smile/High Noon (Bossa Nova Medley)  "Filmhits
Zum Tanzen"

Serge Gainsbourg:  Couleur Cafe  "Espresso Espresso"
Brasilian Boys:  Per l'Eternita  "Mo'Plen Brazilia"
Lalo Schifrin:  Lalo's Bossa Nova (Samba Para Dos)  "Mission
Impossible...And More"
Edmundo Ros:  Blame It On The Bossa Nova  "Latin Boss - Senor Ros"
Sergio Mendes:  Mas Que Nada  "Cocktail Mix 2: Martini Madness"
Chico Buarque:  A Banda  "Chico Total"

Dimitri From Paris:  Une Very Stylish Fille  "Sacrebleu"
Walter Wanderley:  Music To Watch Girls By  "Boss Of The Bossa Nova"
Combustible Edison:  Summer Samba  "Blue Light"
Mrs. Miller:  The Girl From Ipanema  "Wild Cool & Swingin'"

Quincy Jones:  Soul Bossa Nova  "Cocktail Mix 2: Martini Madness"
Connie Francis:  Bossa Nova Hand Dance  "Cocktail Mix 2: Martini
Madness"
Fantastic Plastic Machine:  Bossa For Jackie (Summer Review EP Version)
"Luxury"
Jona & Coro:  W La Felicita  "Mo'Plen Brazilia"


Thanks for reading.

[e-mail]
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:54:06 -0400
From: "Brian Tozer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Western Swing

I was probably the king of all C&W haters when I came across
Asleep at the Wheels' "Tribute to Bob Wills and the Texas
Playboys".  I couldn't believe it...no whiny pedal steel guitars (Wills-
era players used the lap steel), top-notch playing, upbeat
interesting music!  That album is overly slick (and includes guest
appearances by some inappropriate performers such as Huey
Lewis) but it's an easy introduction to Wills' music and it spurred
me to buy Rhino's "Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys Anthology".
This set shows the versatility of the Wills band quite well...there's
even material that could be called "Big Band" on it.
After hearing the above I began to test the C&W waters, and there
IS some worthwhile material out there...really!

By the way, to the Canadians on the list...apparently Don Messer's
band could play incredibly well live, and were often compared to
Bob Wills. (Most Canadians only remember the tired old band that
our parents forced us to watch once a week on the CBC)
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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:47:50 +0200
From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Western Swing

Can anyone describe the difference between bluegrass and western swing =
please?
Dont have much but enjoy the stuff called Bluegrass most.

High Highly enjoy a 50s double lp called "Banjo Jamboree" from Starday. =
I believe its bluegrass, Banjo pickin are kinda psychedelic actually. =
Would love to hear more of that in exotica, the forbidden five way. I =
know you are with me on that Peter.

Rednecks? I would say sensitive poets. Eartbound poets. And thats good. =
At least I think so.

Highly enjoy Robert Pete Williams too. Different worlds that may not =
differ that much. its Man.

Magnus



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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 08:26:11 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???

Would any member care to make a comment (or comments) regarding their
prefrences/experiences with CD changers?

Specifically, I am wondering if the front load or the carousel ones are
preferred?  I picked up a Technics front loader but I am concerned that the
CDs may get scratched when they load and unload from the narrow slots.  Do
you think the carousels would be less likely to scratch the CDs?

I looked very hard at a Pioneer carousel that was about the same price.

Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

Tiki Bob


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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:47:28 +0100 (BST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste

> I think my favourite Studio 2 release must be (something like) 'Norrie
> Paramor plays the hits of Cliff Richard and the Shadows in a Latin
> Style'.

That's not too strange, since Norrie Paramor was Cliff Richard's producer. He
also supposedly produced the first UK rock'n'roll record but i've forgotten the
band's name (someone and the Rockets I think). He didn't like R'n'R but when
Cliff's b-side 'Move It' was a hit he had to continue.

On Studio 2 there's also a George Martin one playing the hits of the Beatles but
it's pretty straightforward.



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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 10:16:40 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) legal low-power FM possibility

The FCC is accepting public comment on legalizing low-power FM stations:

http://www.fcc.gov/mmb/prd/lpfm/

Ron... your move.



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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 10:18:38 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???

>Would any member care to make a comment (or comments) regarding their
>prefrences/experiences with CD changers?

Magnusvox makes a really sweet 6-foot maple console model, but it's pretty difficult to find.


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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 12:03:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Test Card Classics......

Sinister Cinema has two volumes (!) of nothing but intermission films trying
to get people to go to the concession stand.

Ashley


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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:26:39 +0200
From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Yet another exotica poem

(It seems I go more and more off topic
Just tell me to stop and I will)


Cool waters and dragonflies
a house with a fireplace
and no electricity
a black and white tv
that was driven by battery
as i remember
the movies were old
older than me

the poisonous snake in the pit
One day he left his side and
visited ours
but dad carried him away
Both wolwes and bears
have been seen around
my summers paradise
A paradise sold=20
because
it was too old

flashes from
a world
that i used to know

Leaving nature early on
Collected by a god or what
that was mean to me
or was it the other way around

Finding love yet again
Is the worry just me
I'm nature too
and proud of it
gotta get that worry out
cause it hurts me
give me a sign if I am OK
All i want is to belong
in a thing not to wrong
with a love
to all

relate to digital
zoomer zooms in
one colored
squares
thats not very hip
but
maybe its
better to see
the cyberpunks cell
so we can tell
its all fake


When i go
I go=20
south sea
thats where i wanna be

Its the quiet village
for all eternity

with nice people in the bar
speking soft and kind
about the things they've done
to the tones
of exotic sounds


Magnus
No toy robot at all








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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:46:48 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: "Exotiquarium"

    i don't think i ever contacted them about it. i don't mind ;-)

        Johan


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>
>Johan? Did you ever get any response out of those people who, er,
>appropriated your word "Exotiquarium" for their book?





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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:51:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Exotiquarium"

In a message dated 7/25/99 10:21:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i don't think i ever contacted them about it. i don't mind ;-)

         Johan


         [e-mail] >>


what a noble gesture.  others would be busy securing lawyers.

tiki bob


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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:12:36 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Western Swing

At 07:54 PM 7/24/99 -0400, Brian Tozer wrote:
>
>I was probably the king of all C&W haters when I came across
>Asleep at the Wheels' "Tribute to Bob Wills and the Texas
>Playboys".  I couldn't believe it...no whiny pedal steel guitars
>After hearing the above I began to test the C&W waters, and there
>IS some worthwhile material out there...really!

I'm not trying to convince or convert anybody but I'm kind of surprised to
see the consistency of the anti-country sentiments on this list.
All those old complaints about "whiny" steel guitars etc.
At this rate we'll soon hear comments about big hair, nasal voices, the
consistency of subject matter - "my wife left me for a truckdriver and my
dog got hit by a train" - and other cliches which anyone who loves a
certain kind of music, hears all the time.
I love country music, bluegrass, honky-tonk, compilations of country-blues
from the 30's, country and western and even country-rock.  I don't care for
"New Country" but I like a lot of what they call "alternative country" or
"No Depression country" or even "insurgent country".
Country music is as "significant" a part of my taste as anything we ever
talk about here and I am just as thrilled to find an early record by Little
Jimmy Dickens - before he got into the "novelty songs" - as I am to find a
Dick Schory percussion record or a funky Johnny Lyttle organ 'n vibes record.
One of my prized possessions is a Ralph Stanley record from the early
seventies.  It's all gospel and religious material "but" it's one of the
most beautiful records I've ever heard.
Yeah if you don't love country music, you can be distracted by all those
whiny, nasal, cliche-ridden aspects that are certainly there much of the time.
But the music is not defined by those aspects any more than the music we
talk about here is defined by the things its detractors say about it.
I'm not trying to get the list to extend its discussion into country music
or even Western swing for that matter.  It just got a little tiresome to
hear the consistent dismissal of an entire musical genre, especially from a
group who you'd think would question musical prejudices.

Nat





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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:48:15 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing

At 02:47 AM 7/25/99 +0200, Sandberg Magnus wrote:
>
>Can anyone describe the difference between bluegrass and western swing
please?
>Dont have much but enjoy the stuff called Bluegrass most.

There's really not much comparison at all between the two unless all
"country" music sounds the same to you.
I'm not going to haul out the research but the records generally identified
as "the first country records" were much closer to what we would now call
"bluegrass" or even "folk" than to country or "country and western"
A lot of these records have been gathered in a compilation called "The
Bristol Sessions" because they were recorded in Bristol, a town where one
side of the main street is in Tennessee and the other side in Virginia.
(Or maybe West Virginia?)
If you listen to the Jimmie Rodgers (not the "Honeycomb" guy) cuts on those
first sessions, it almost sounds like old blues.  And in fact there are
compilations out there whose basic goal is to show you how similar white
"folk music" and black folk music were at the time.
And to some degree, the development of country music is the story of
removing the "blues influence" from the music.
Anyway, Western Swing is a fairly "narrow" phenomenon.  It's country with
strong jazz, hot jazz, swing and even early R&B influences.  I'm not saying
"narrow" as a criticism; it's just that there's not that much of it
compared to these other forms of country music. However Western Swing did
influence the development of country music and you can hear a lot more of
what it influenced than you can hear genuine Western Swing.
I don't think it's accurate to say that Western Swing "retained" the black
influence so much as it "inserted" them back in the music.
I listen to lots of country and bluegrass but very little Western Swing. I
have some of the compilations mentioned here but for me they're more "fun"
than essential. I put it in a narrow corner of my taste along with old rock
n roll, Louis Jordan and other forms of rollicking, good time party music.

I don't really like happy party music much in any genre.  I'm more into the
melancholy and emotional.  (Not that partying is not an emotion...)

There's a lot of lickety-split fast-picking musicianship to bluegrass and
that's not really what I value in it, though it has its pleasures.
I can be cynical about words like this but I love bluegrass because it's
real and pure.  I  hear human beings expressing themselves with a kind of
directness that I don't hear in lots of music, even music I love.
I also love the obsession with murder ballads and other gothic tales.
But even when they're singing about Jesus, I don't care because it's not
what they're singing about but the emotion and passion that connects for me.

I haven't answered your question.  Bluegrass is mountain music and Western
swing is more city music.

Enough about country music today.

Nat




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Date: 25 Jul 1999 13:25:14 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Command on CD

From what I can determine, there are 4 CDs which dip into the Command
library, not
one of which probably covers everything, but each one has some cuts you can't
find elsewhere on CD.  So, to get as much as you can get, you have to buy 3
CDs with some duplication.

It is too bad someone just can't issue a 4 CD set with no duplication.

The Good Music Company is selling a 2 CD set called Persuasive Percussion.
This looks like a straight reissue off the double album reissue (which left
some
cuts off from the original releases).

Compare with the two Verese Sarabande recordings: Persuasive Percussion
(which has all of Persuasive Percussion and 6 cuts from volume 2) and
Provacative
Percussion which has all of Provocative Percussion and  6 cuts from volume 2.

The Good Music company set has several cuts not on either of the VS:
Mack the Knife, Out of Nowhere, Yours is My Heart Alone, La Cucaracha, Lady
of Spain,   Speak to Me of Love Cha Cha and Theme from Polyvetsian Dances.

Meanwhile, the VS CD Persuasive Percussion has two cuts not on the Good Music
set:  The Breeze and I, Dearly Beloved (a cut from the original LP volume 1
and
a cut from the LP volume 2).

Also, the VS CD Provacative Percussion has three cuts not on the Good Music
set:
Matilda, Good Night Sweetheart Cha Cha and The Lady is a Tramp, all from
Command's Prov. Perc. Vol. 2.

I didn't compare all the Command cuts for the CDs, but something tells me all
four of these CDs don't have everything you can get by buying the records.

And some people wonder why I buy records!

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


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