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exotica-digest          Friday, July 16 1999          Volume 02 : Number 450



In This Digest:

RE: (exotica) Hello Everyone
(exotica) Scott Walker
Re: (exotica) Scott Walker
(exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popularaire)
(exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popularaire)
Re: (exotica) Quiet 78
(exotica) April March
Re: (exotica) Scott Walker
(exotica) tiki thing on ebay
RE: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popula raire)
Re: (exotica) Scott Walker
(exotica) Gentle People "Faboo"
(exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii
Re: (exotica) Quiet 78
Re: (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii
RE: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popu
Re: (exotica) Hello Everyone
Re: (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii
(exotica) Since I don't have Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou
(exotica) Oh, spare me!
Re: (exotica) Oh, spare me!
(exotica) Terry Gibbs
(exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!
Re: (exotica) Oh, spare me!
Re: (exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!
(exotica) Exotiquarium album cover art book
Re:  (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii
(exotica) Obits I noticed: Whoopee and Soft Lights
Re: SV: (exotica) Quiet 78
Re: (exotica) Scott Walker

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:58:40 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Hello Everyone

        MMM IRMA its name is like a bottle of fine valpolicella,

        There is a bit more which I like......... But Irma are a
fine label


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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:16:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Scott Walker

Oh, lordamercy, don't get me started on Scott
Walker...OK, DO!  He has been described as "Tony
Bennett on acid" or "Frank Sinatra and Bob Dylan's
love child."  In the 1960s, he masterfully combined
pscychedelia and lush orchestration via Wally
Stott(thanks, Brian P.!), with a tremendous
crooner-tone, a la' Jack Jones or(and this is
controversial, even for me to believe it,but I do!)
Andy...uh...Williams.  His own sense of lyricism is
surreal and majestic, like singing along to a Bergman
film.  He also is a brilliant interpreter of the great
French singer and songwriter Jacques Brel.  Razor and
Tie put out the definitive IT'S RAINING TODAY
comp...and all Scott's stuff has been reissued on CD,
though on import only, I think.  The best stuff is his
first four albums and 'TIL THE BAND COMES IN.
I also like the Walker Brothers, whose hit THE SUN
AIN'T GONNA SHINE ANYMORE...you might have heard.  A
best-of anthology will suit ya'.

And, as stated here a few weeks ago, if you can find
JACK JONES SINGS MICHEL LEGRAND...then it is a missing
Scott rekkid..oh, that and WILLIAM SHATNER!
Jane Fondle...exhausted!

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:20:23 EDT
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Scott Walker

Must agree that Scott Walker is one of the most brillant composers/performers
ever to set music to tape.  Some people go nuts for his later stuff (which
isn't really my bag) -- more like early 80's Bowie, kindof...supposedly his
late 70's early 80's stuff inspired Bowie, Eno, and that gang.

Must agree with Jane that the first 5 LPs are the best.

I saw Jack Jones recently and he was amazing!  His singing (in concert
anyway) is better than ever.  I was totally surprised at what a kick ass show
it was.  Check him out if you get the chance.

And watch out for Jack's "Without Her" album.  You can probably find it for
$2 or less.  Immediatly play the second song on the second side -- and you
might think you had accidentally put on a Scott Walker LP!!!!

Just recently picked up the import two-fer CD of Scott's early to mid 70's
cover songs LPs "Stretch" and "We Had It All".  Skip em unless you are
hardcore.  The only really fantastic tune is Scott's version of Jimmy Webb's
"Where Does Brown Begin."

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 99 11:15:40 -0500
From: Michael Toth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popularaire)

>By the way, what is on the cover of the original issue of "Peter Gunn"?  I
>have two copies, both with different covers and I find it hard to believe
>that either one was the original.

>The other cover is sort of turquoise
>blue and has no picture, just a couple of pink lines that sort of resemble
>lightning.  That one sort of looks like the cover on my copy of "More music
>from Peter Gunn".

I always thought those looked like dendrites or something neural from
biology class. As far as I know, that's the authoritative cover.

>One cover has a bunch of lopsided
>rectangles, mostly yellow or orange.

I just found a copy of this a couple of months ago. I've seen *SEVERAL*
DOZEN of the lightning dendrite cover in my time, but this was the first
copy of Gunn like this I'd seen. I ended up grabbing it as it was only
$1.50. The crazy thing is, this *very same* geometric cover art also
exists as an alternate cover for the Three Suns' _Love In the Afternoon_
(the green "picnic" cover is the common one). A store up in Cleveland has
a copy, but their stuff is way overpriced in general: all unmarked LPs
are at least $10.50. It was a cool curiosity item, but not
eleven-something (with tax) worth of cool. (If ANYONE has this, I'd
*love* a scan for my Three Suns site)

My geometric Gunn is mono, but the geometric LitA was stereo, and the
Living Stereo logo had the same weird magenta/orange color scheme as the
rest of the cover.

I'm intrigued by alternate cover art, and I often wonder why it exists.
In some cases, I can understand that they were changing from something
less controversial (Arthur Lyman's shrunken head & volcano Taboo 2
covers, Morton Gould's Jungle Drums with the topless female behind the
tree vs. the drums in the jungle, etc.). In some cases, like the Three
Suns' _Midnight For Two_, I think the rarer cover with the romantic
couple under the clock is much classier than the common
couple-riding-on-a-broom cover. (And the fact that I've seen BOTH covers
also as 7-inch EP sleeves doesn't give any clue as to which might have
come first.)

In both cases (Peter Gunn & Love In the Afternoon), the back cover art is
identical to their more common counterparts. There's nothing to suggest
they're foreign pressings or anything either.

FYI: the Three Suns LPs I'm aware of with totally different cover
variations:

The Sound(s) of Christmas (two on RCA Victor, with a third for its Camden
reissue)
Easy Listening (two; early 50s and updated late 50s photo of lounging
couple)
Midnight For Two (two; aforementioned)
Love in the Afternoon (two; aforementioned)

Does anyone know of any others? I also need a scan of the painted cover
art for the Christmas LP, if you can help out.

Michael David Toth
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:37:30 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popularaire)

>One cover has a bunch of lopsided
>rectangles, mostly yellow or orange.

>I just found a copy of this a couple of months ago. I've seen *SEVERAL*
>DOZEN of the lightning dendrite cover in my time, but this was the first
>copy of Gunn like this I'd seen. I ended up grabbing it as it was only
>$1.50. The crazy thing is, this *very same* geometric cover art also
>exists as an alternate cover for the Three Suns' _Love In the Afternoon_

...and the same cover exists for "In a Mellotone" by Duke Ellington (Happy
100th!).  I think that RCA reissued a whole slew of LP's with this standard
cover.  I also have a Charles Mingus album "Jazz Experiment" on Jazztone
with several instruments and Picasso's "Three Musicians" in the background,
a design I saw on other albums on the same label.

Although I like the art in both cases, I don't like the practice.  It could
lead to confusion, thus cheating the artist and it seems to serve the
purposes of denoting which label the record is on ("A great label with one
great cover!"), as well as saving a lot of time in the reissue department.
I do, however, like the old Impuse! records, with the distinctive black and
orange spines, easy to spot when stacked spine outward; the same goes for
CBS' lines on the spine.

Perhaps I have this bias due to my days of stocking Windham Hill and the
dreaded Narada album covers.  It seemed to be a New Age conceit.

One man, many covers,
Brian Phillips



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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:32:40 +0100
From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quiet 78

Tiki Bob asked
>Does anybody know if Denny's "Quiet Village" was released on 78?

It certainly was in England.  Denny's 1959/60 single releases were

London American
HLU8860 Quiet Village/Llama serenade
HLU8976 The enchanted sea/Martinique

both were also released as 45's (45HLU8860 and 45HLU8976).

Les Baxter's last UK 78 release was a year or so earlier:
Capitol CL14840 Farewell to arms theme/Bonjour tristesse dance.

I believe the last UK Hit which was available on both 78 and 45 was
Johnny & the Hurricanes' 'Reveille Rock'...  Anyone know what the
last US equivalent was please?

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:42:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) April March

I'm very familiar with four of her albums. Paris In April is wonderful!  Songs sung in
french by A March are fabulous.  Her english songs remind me of great pop songs of
1965, I really like her voice for these songs, its quirky and raw for me.  Chick Habit
is generally a shorter version of Paris in April.

April March and Los Cincos is her second to last album and came out in December if I
remember correctly.   This is indie pop,  in an underproduced modern vein ala records
on the Elephant lable.   I like this album allot but it is very much modern soft indie
pop.

Chrominance Decoder came out in January I believe, and it is my second favorite album
of this year.  ( Azure by Louis Phillipe is my favorite, a modern day Pet Sounds)
Bertrand Bergalat, who I believe may be associated with Louis Phillipe, did an amazing
job producing these songs.  As Jill Mingo pointed out there is some electronic trickery
going on in the bacground of these songs but it does not interfere with the magnificant
song writing and Aprils voice is right up front.  This is a beautiful, haunting album
and is quite different from Chick Habit.   Slow melodic tunes weave beautiful pictures
on Chominance vs 60's pop now sound  go go on Paris In April.

I did post on Chrominance and Los Cincos when they first were released but it is hard
reading and remembering all the posts.   There also was a review of April March at
Vic's Lounge, http://www.chaoskitty.com

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


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> I don't recall this woman being discussed here, but I heard 5 or so
> songs by her recently.  She's from the U.S. but sings songs that sound
> like French pop of the 1960s.  I liked what I heard and was surprised to
> learn that she has 6-7 CDs out, and I was completely unaware of her
> before.

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:42:32 +0100
From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Scott Walker

[e-mail] wrote:

> I saw Jack Jones recently and he was amazing!  His singing (in concert
> anyway) is better than ever.  I was totally surprised at what a kick
> ass show it was.  Check him out if you get the chance.

I was recently played his version of "Windmills of Your Mind" from an
old album of him singing Michel Legrand songs which rocked suprisingly
much.


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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:46:05 -0400
From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) tiki thing on ebay

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:38:49 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popula raire)

        The copy which I have is a stylised action  drawing of the
star of the film (Craig Thomas????) in adynamic pose firing his Gun, with a
bevvy of beauties, and a flash car.

        This is the original UK Release apparently


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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Scott Walker

Scott's last album 'Tilt' is a fantastic piece of work.  Although I imagine
fans of his sixties stuff would cringe to this album - I think it is a
major piece of work.

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:06:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gentle People "Faboo"

The Gentle People have finally released their second full length album  "Faboo".  I
believe it is a Japanese only release  for the time being.  They may be following the
Ventures marketing strategy

This is really a fun listen.  Lots of new Gentle People songs that have the Gentle
People sound.

My first impression of Faboo was that the Gentle People are trying lots of new things.
 Its more produced.   Some songs have more beats and more of an electronica feel on
them. There is also ONE song that is straight 1978 disco. If you like disco this is
really a good disco song.    The songs do not ooze in dreamland as well as the Journey
song off of their first album but they are many well written fun gentle peoplesque
songs on this album.   There certainly is the gentle stamp of the Gentle People at work
here.

This cd is in a great package & it is available at good ole other music.
http://www.othermusic.com

Vic had a review of the Gentle People's first album at the Vic's Lounge site
http://www.chaoskitty.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:05:40 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii

hey guys i picked up a pretty sweet hawaiian ashtray the other day at a
garage sale, i didnt have any change so the lady just gave it to me, theres a
little carving on the side that says: "Made with Lava, #240, Coco Joe Hawaii"
my friend tells me that coco joe reproductions are a common item to pick up
in hawaii, but he also says its cool that i have one thats not a fake, anyone
know anything about this Coco Joe guy?

Bob, im sure you could tell me a thing or two.

laters
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:14:36 +0200
From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quiet 78

Hugh Petfield wrote:

> I'm reliably informed that in India, 78's lasted into the Beatle era.....

Correct, British magazine Record Collector reported this a couple of years ago.

I also remember reading that 78s are still produced today in very limited
quantities by collectors of vintage rock 'n' roll and rockabilly. So in a way,
the 78 is still a current format.

Marco



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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:24:56 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii

[e-mail] wrote:

> sweet hawaiian ashtray

> "Made with Lava, #240, Coco Joe Hawaii"
> not a fake

Are you sure it's made of Lava? Or with Lava? Al I ever found were plasti=
c.

You say it is sweet... maybe it's made from black caramel sugar?

Mo

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 99 13:02:53 -0500
From: Michael Toth <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popu

>        The copy which I have is a stylised action  drawing of the
>star of the film (Craig Thomas????) in a dynamic pose firing his Gun, with a
>bevvy of beauties, and a flash car.
>
>        This is the original UK Release apparently

Was this the 1960s *movie* soundtrack or the 1950s TV show soundtrack?
This sure sounds more like the film soundtrack.

(I think the movie was called "Gunn No. 1" -- I've never seen it, but it
was apparently part of the whole Bond/Flint/Helm spy cash-in craze; I
know the movie is where "Bye Bye," the lyric-added version of the Gunn
theme, originated)

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:51:39 -0400
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hello Everyone

P.S.

My bag is groovy type exotica from the mid 60's-Mid 70's like Vampyros
Lesbos,Cordara Orchestra, Mirageman, and lots of the Italian easy stuff
from then.
I also dig De Wolfe Label Library Stuff
Is this the right place to be
Cheers
AR

YES!YES!YES! We need more suave Brits on this list!  Just don't use the
"shag" word!
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:24:56 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii

[e-mail] wrote:

> sweet hawaiian ashtray

> "Made with Lava, #240, Coco Joe Hawaii"
> not a fake

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:59:40 -0400
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Subject: (exotica) Since I don't have Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou

Well, this isn't an obit, and it scarcely is exotica-related...but I
couldn't resist:

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 They were screaming and making all sorts of noise.''  -George Good, Tucson

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:08:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Oh, spare me!

LOS ANGELES (AP) Sting is recording a new version of
the Oscar-winning song
 ''The Windmills of Your Mind,'' the theme of ''The
Thomas Crown Affair,'' for Pierce Brosnan's remake of
the movie.

''Sting is an amazing artist and a great friend. His
daring musical career and personal fearlessness in
life
 echo some of the themes of this film,'' Brosnan said
Wednesday in a statement.

Brosnan plays a billionaire who steals a Monet
painting, then falls in love with the investigator,
played by
Rene Russo, who is trying to solve the crime.

It's a remake of the Steve McQueen and Faye Dunaway
movie, which got the best song Oscar in 1968
for composer Michel Legrand and lyricists Alan and
Marilyn Bergman.

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:24:28 -0400
From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Oh, spare me!

Sting doing "Windmills of Your Mind."

The horror, the horror.

This is the man who couldn't read a book without having to write
us a song about it.

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:28:00 PDT
From: "Albert Fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Terry Gibbs

  DOes anyone know anything about Terry Gibbs? He has an lp called
"Launching a New Sound". Mostly big band stuff but I'm wondering if he's
addded anything new to the songs.

Thanks
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:55:03 -0500
From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!

>Sting doing "Windmills of Your Mind."
>
>The horror, the horror.


oof.  i hear ya.

i collect versions of the classic "My One and Only Love" and have
violently resisted ever listening to Sting's rendition (also recorded
for some soundtrack).

  - kini

P.S.  any versions y'all know of that i SHOULD seek out?  lay 'em on me!




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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:59:52 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Oh, spare me!

>LOS ANGELES (AP) Sting is recording a new version of
>the Oscar-winning song
> ''The Windmills of Your Mind,'' the theme of ''The
>Thomas Crown Affair,'' for Pierce Brosnan's remake of
>the movie.

The "real" movie is on TCM, Sunday afternoon at 4:00pm (eastern).

Also...

The History Channel is rerunning their history of stereo Wednesday night at 10:00pm and 2:00am.


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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:00:18 -0400
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!

oof.  i hear ya.
i collect versions of the classic "My One and Only Love" and have
violently resisted ever listening to Sting's rendition (also recorded
for some soundtrack).

  - kini
P.S.  any versions y'all know of that i SHOULD seek out?  lay 'em on me!

>>My favorite is by Nancy Wilson, a Capitol recording..Jane Fondle




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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:35:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Fish Wich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotiquarium album cover art book

I received my copy of "Exotiquarium: Album Art from
the Space Age" by Jennifer McKnight-Trontz today.  I
haven't had a chance to read much of the text but at
first glance, the quality of the images is a little
disappointing.  There is a noticeable glare on many
and several of the images are poorly cropped
(especially Ferrante & Teicher's Blast Off!).
Amazingly, one of the most famous space age album
cover images, Les Baxter's Space Escapades, is nowhere
to be found!

It seems like a decent effort but I don't know if it
lives up to the name "Exotiquarium."  Has anyone else
picked up a copy of the book?  What do you think?

Regards,

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:20:23 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii

I don't know the official history but here's what I know from experience

there were other manufacturers of these "fake" lava products

originally they were cast in pewter and painted black to resemble real lava
carvings but now are cast is resin that presumably has real lava rock for
coloring

At one time HIP Originals was at least as large of a producer of these
tourist chotckes as Joe but somehow joe ended up cornering the market

Coco Joe's (originally unnumbered) completely owned the market by the late
70s and could be found in every single ABC store (similar to 7-11 or Circle
K) which were found on every single corner (I am not joking) in Waikiki
during the 70s & 80s and 90s. They also produced a Hapa Wood version
apparently during the late 60s/70s and some of those designs continue today

about three years ago they inexplicably went out of business. the name and
most popular molds were bought by a chinese company and they resurfaced about
a year ago

As for the value of these things it is very subjective
No doubt thousands, possibly millions were made of any given design, but no
doubt some designs were discontinued after an initial run

therefore the common ones are worth about $1.00
while the less common ones (don't ask me which ones they are) could be worth
$20

The larger versions (12-18 inches tall) of the Tikis and other statues of
course are worth more as they originally sold for about $22.00 in 1980 and of
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:56:01 -0400
From: "Craig L. Carlson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Obits I noticed: Whoopee and Soft Lights

Charles `Pete' Conrad, at 69

Was fun-loving space explorer

By Marcia Dunn, Associated Press, 07/10/99

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Apollo 12 astronaut Charles ''Pete''
    Conrad, the third man to walk on the moon and the only one to shout
''Whoopee!'' as he hopped onto its dusty surface, was killed Thursday in a
motorcycle accident, leaving life the way he lived it: traveling fast. He was
69.

Mr. Conrad crashed his 1996 Harley-Davidson on a curve along a winding
mountain road near Ojai in Southern California and died at a hospital of
internal bleeding from chest and abdominal injuries.

Besides Apollo 12 in November 1969, Mr. Conrad flew two Gemini
missions in the mid-1960s and commanded NASA's first space station,
Skylab, in 1973. He later worked as an aerospace executive and formed a
company aimed at making space flight as common as a jet ride.

Six weeks ago, in an interview in advance of this month's 30th anniversary of
the first manned moon landing, by Apollo 11, Mr. Conrad said he could not
be happier and was looking forward to old age.

''Time flies when you're having fun, and I've been having fun for the last 30
years. I've been having fun for a lot longer than that,'' said Mr. Conrad, who
lived in Huntington Beach, Calif.

Apollo 11's Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon, called Mr.
Conrad a ''tireless pioneer ... enamored with `pushing the envelope.'''

''I didn't know anyone that was filled with more irrepressible enthusiasm and
sense of humor and new ideas and general joy of life than Pete,'' said Sen.
John Glenn. ''He'll be missed very much.''

Mr. Conrad always spoke his mind. To prove that NASA bureaucrats were
not telling astronauts what to say when they stepped onto the moon, he bet
an Italian journalist $500 that he would declare: ''That may have been a small
one for Neil, but that's a hell of a step for me.''

Once he reached the moon, Mr. Conrad cleaned up his language, but the
essence remained.

''Whoopee!'' he shouted as he descended the ladder of his lunar lander on
Nov. 19, 1969. ''Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but that's a
long one for me.''

Born in Philadelphia, Mr. Conrad received a bachelor's degree in
aeronautical engineering from Princeton University in 1953. He then joined
the Navy and became a naval aviator. He attended the Navy Test Pilot
School at Patuxent River, Md., and later served there as a test pilot, flight
instructor, and performance engineer.

NASA picked him for its second group of astronauts in 1962, three years
after the seven original Mercury astronauts were selected. Mr. Conrad
served as pilot of Gemini 5 in 1965, flying with Gordon Cooper. He went on
to command Gemini 11 in 1966. His crewmate was Dick Gordon.

As commander of Apollo 12, Mr. Conrad flew to the moon with Alan Bean
and Dick Gordon. Mr. Conrad and Bean spent nearly eight hours exploring
the lunar surface and 311/2 hours on the surface altogether, as Gordon
circled the moon in the command module.

Mr. Conrad retired from NASA and the Navy in 1973. But his passion for
space exploration never diminished.

Helen Forrest, at 82

Big-band vocalist known for wartime hits

By Reuters, 07/13/99

    LOS ANGELES - Vocalist Helen Forrest, who sang for such
heavyweights as Artie Shaw, Benny Goodman, and Harry James
during the big-band era of the 1930s and '40s, died Sunday of congestive
heart failure. She was 82.

Among her best-known songs were such wartime hits with the James band
as ''I've Heard That Song Before''; her signature song, ''I Had the Craziest
Dream''; and ''I Don't Want to Walk Without You,'' which became an
anthem for women left alone during World War II.

She recorded more than 500 songs during a career that stretched into the
1980s. Along the way, she shared the bandstand with jazz legend Billie
Holiday, crossed the color line to record ''Ghost of a Chance'' with Lionel
Hampton and the Nat ''King'' Cole Trio, and teamed with baritone Dick
Haymes for a series of hits and a long-running radio show.

Especially good with a ballad, Ms. Forrest was known for her warm,
melodic style and nuanced interpretation of lyrics. Describing her style, she
once told Look magazine, ''I try to sing so a guy can picture soft lights and
his girl.''

Ms. Forrest also appeared in several movies with James, with whom she
was having a secret romance. But their affair ended after James met and fell
in love with film star Betty Grable while all three were making the 1942
picture ''Springtime in the Rockies.'' James and Grable ultimately married,
and Ms. Forrest left the James band to pursue a solo career.

Ms. Forrest's big break came when clarinetist-bandleader Shaw heard her
perform and offered her a job. In 1938 she joined his band as a co-vocalist
with Holiday, and she remained with Shaw when Holiday quit to start a solo
career.

After Shaw broke up his band in 1939, Ms. Forrest segued onto the
bandstand of another clarinetist-leader, Benny Goodman.

In 1941, Ms. Forrest joined James's orchestra, where she flourished as an
artist and recorded her biggest hits, in part because her singing style
blended
well with James's lush approach to ballads. The trumpeter built arrangements
around Ms. Forrest and featured her as a star.

At the peak of her career, Ms. Forrest was considered the finest white
vocalist of her day. Ultimately, however, Frank Sinatra surged to fame with
Tommy Dorsey's orchestra.

After the big-band era, Ms. Forrest performed in supper clubs, on radio,
and in the studio. A last album was released in 1983 by Stash Records.


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Date: 16 Jul 1999 17:44:20 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Quiet 78

At 01:40 PM 16-07-99 +0200, Magnus wrote:
>Did they make em [78s] that late?

By then 45s had become more popular than 78s for singles...but, yet, some
of the established record companies were still putting out limited 78s for
those who hadn't yet converted.  There were still plenty of 78 only juke
boxes around, for instance.  As a consequence, many 78s from this era may
be out there, although VERY rare and often quite valuable.

The real question is...did Liberty get into the biz when 78s were big
enough to invest in the process?  I bet it didn't, but I could be wrong.

They might have come in with the idea that they'd be a 45 and LP only
company, just as several years ago labels would start as only CD labels
even though records were still pretty big.

Byron

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:18:39 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Scott Walker

At 10:16 AM 7/16/99 -0400, Jane Fondle wrote:

  In the 1960s, he masterfully combined
>pscychedelia and lush orchestration via Wally
>Stott(thanks, Brian P.!), with a tremendous
>crooner-tone, a la' Jack Jones or(and this is
>controversial, even for me to believe it,but I do!)
>Andy...uh...Williams.

I don't think that's controversial.  I'm not going to say that Jack and
Andy are interchangeable but they both have beautiful large voices, like
Scott Walker.  Jack's voice may get the edge in resemblance but Andy comes
close enough to mention.
For some reason, Jack comes off as somewhat "hipper" than Andy, despite who
Andy was married to and the fact that he covered SO MANY unlikely sixties
and seventies hits.  Maybe it's because Andy covered so much sixties
material that he almost seemed to be pandering or maybe it's just that Jack
looks so much cooler than Andy.
Anyway, back to Scott Walker.  The other day we were listening to Scott
doing "It's Raining Today" and there's this part where a "loudish" string
section just hangs in the air behind the melody.  It's part of what you
might call Scott's "overt arrangements" and I said to my friend that if it
weren't for that wall of strings, which is the kind of thing you'd never
hear on a crooner record, it might just be Jack Jones we were listening to.
 And my friend Scott, the huge Scott fan, said "That's what I like about
this.  If Jack Jones did this, I'd like him a lot more".  (He loves Jack,
just not the way he loves Scott.)

Anyway, most of the time that you hear some "rock guy" described in
relation to crooners, such as "He's the Frank Sinatra of punk" or whatever,
it would be a metaphor but not in this case.
Scott Walker is a crooner who writes and arranges his own tunes.  And boy
does he arrange.

Nat



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