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exotica-digest         Saturday, June 19 1999         Volume 02 : Number 422



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Re:  SV: (exotica) collecting
Re: (exotica) collecting
SV: (exotica) RE: Busby Berkeley
Re: SV: (exotica) collecting
Re: (exotica) Busby Berkeley
Re: (exotica) new releases of interest
Re: (exotica) The ages on this list, other threads too
Re: (exotica) The ages on this list
(exotica) Free Lunch 7" Record
(exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 20
SV: (exotica) The ages on this list, other threads too
(exotica) Re: Heino YODELS (was: Scary Germans)
(exotica) Re: Corduroy
(exotica) Re: Mike Flowers Pops
(exotica) Busby Berkely at amazon
(exotica) 1951: Baxter, Quiet, Denny, Yma, 60 Minute, Buick and Tiki Bob - Part One
(exotica) 1951: Baxter, Quiet, Denny, Yma, 60 Minute, Buick and Tiki Bob - Part Two
Re: FW: (exotica) Repairing scratched CD's
SV: (exotica) 1951: Baxter, Quiet, Denny, Yma, 60 Minute, Buick and Tiki Bob -Part Two
(exotica) APB:  I sold the wrong records!
(exotica) Yma is/on 78's
(exotica) Tiki Bar for sale NOW!
(exotica) The Bachelor's Guide to The Galaxy
(exotica) how bout this one?
Re: (exotica) The ages on this list
Re: (exotica) Quiet Village
(exotica) Jack "Bongo" Burger
(exotica) Rare Enoch Light CD
Re:  (exotica) collecting
Re: (exotica) Re: Busby Berkely / wacky germans / scratched CD's
(exotica) Exotica Suite
Re: (exotica) Quiet Village
Re: (exotica) RE: Busby Berkeley
(exotica) Denny Martin

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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:48:08 +0200
From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  SV: (exotica) collecting

>It reminds me of the English "Northern" Soul DJ/collectors. Allegedly they
>would xerox the label of the 45 they had found on their "cultural thievery"
>tours of U.S. Black Reddid shops' basements (to save proof of ownership) and
>then apply the product known mysteriously as "Vymura" to remove the labels.
>That way, when they were DJ-ing the tune at a club during an "all-nighter"
>none of the soul boys in the house could peer into the booth at the wheel of
>steel and see the title and artist of the mystery tune. Those
Euro's...always
>trashing AND compiling U.S. Culture

ha ha ha ha ha
I though it was americans trashing and compiling etc etc.
;)

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista



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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:25:40 +0100
From: m h jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) collecting

> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:48:53 +0100
> From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) collecting

> Generally, they just put a sticker on top of the label, its called a
> cover-up.

I think this practice has been by DJs everywhere. Reggae DJs in JA and
hip-hop DJs are two other examples who have removed labels in the past.

> And if you're accusing us of 'cultural thievery' for apreciating non-white
> British music, you may want to note that you lot simply dismiss or ignore
> Black American culture, it takes a nation like ours to appreciate and
> celebrate Black American music, taking soul, funk, reggae, disco, hip hop
> and house and accepting them as a part of the mainstream rather than as
> some sort of sub-cultural undercurrent.

Most of the records played on the northern soul scene were unappreciated
'failures' when first released, being deemed inferior Motown copies,
unreleased Motown material, or just released on too small a label to ever
get anywhere. And some of the records had no known artist or title, being
just unlabelled test pressings... so no need for a cover up...

The other funny part I always thought was the re-selling of black American
music back to the US via British groups - either Beatles/Stones then or
house and techno ('electronica') now...


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:52:26 +0200
From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) RE: Busby Berkeley

>This reminds me of a still unanswered question I asked in this place a =
couple
>of months ago: Has there ever been a 3rd part of "That's =
entertainment", as
>was reported in the media some two years ago?

I believe part 3 was shown on TV here not long ago... But I am not sure.

m



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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:54:55 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) collecting

Well, of course the Northern soul boys stole this notion from Jamaican sound
system DJs, who similarly removed the labels so nobody could find their
exclusive cuts.


<< >What a swine. collector going mad. i dont like those kind of
collectors...
 just
 >like the problem with djs, getting important over other peoples work...

 It reminds me of the English "Northern" Soul DJ/collectors. Allegedly they
 would xerox the label of the 45 they had found on their "cultural thievery"
 tours of U.S. Black Reddid shops' basements (to save proof of ownership) and
 then apply the product known mysteriously as "Vymura" to remove the labels.
 That way, when they were DJ-ing the tune at a club during an "all-nighter"
 none of the soul boys in the house could peer into the booth at the wheel of
 steel and see the title and artist of the mystery tune. Those
Euro's...always
 trashing AND compiling U.S. Culture
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 99 12:02:36 -0500
From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Busby Berkeley

>What a genius.
>I saw a documentary on him but forgot to tape it, so i forgot all about
>which movies that had the most fab coreography? Which ones are essential?
>Are the easy to find cheap on video? Where on the net?
In addition to Rhino's 2-CD set, there's a CD titled The Busby Berkeley
Album (Angel, 1994) with numbers from several movies sung by excellent
Broadway types. John McGlinn conducts the London Sinfonietta. They use
all the original orchestrations and incorporate the dance music. Great
stuff.

Elisabeth


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 99 12:04:43 -0500
From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) new releases of interest

>One of my fave 12" singles this spring has been the Zimpala "Mondo Timing
>Part 1" (Fantomas, FANTOO6-P1), which features the track "Grand Habakuk"
>(Is this on the new album?).
There's "Grand Habakuk" part 1 *and* "Grand Habakuk" part 2 on the album.
Can't rave enough about this record.

Elisabeth


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:16:20 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The ages on this list, other threads too

>Lots of 69ers and lots of 59ers. strange coincidence.

While I still can, I guess I should confess to being 39. Chalk up yet
another 59er.

I don't feel especially drawn to any particular period of music. To borrow
a Kurt Vonnegut phrase, "I seem to have become unstuck in time." I do tend
to favor recordings that are less pieced together from overdubs... more of
a genuine, real-time performance, which generally means material from the
mid-60s on back. But there are still recordings made like that today, so...

Speaking of 20s and 30s music, if you're not familiar with them, you really
owe it to yourself to check out the 30s recordings by Slim Gaillard and
Slam Stewart ("Slim & Slam"). Terrific, casually brilliant stuff like "Flat
Foot Floogie". Various companies have cd comps out.

That story about the German cd is so strange. If the cd sends the
shopkeepers into such conniptions, why the heck do they have it in the
store in the first place?!? The only logical answer I can imagine is that
they get it in hush hush for "special" customers, but it accidently went
out onto the rack. And their distress was actually over having a stranger
stumble onto it? Weird.

My favorite "Quiet Village" is Mr. B's original version. I know, it's a
very safe choice, but it's still my favorite.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:48:14
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The ages on this list

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:07:23 +0100 (BST), Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>My first LP I got that I remember was Sonny Bono's
"Inner Visions" for my 3rd (!) birthday.

That's the greatest first record story I've ever heard...how did that happen?!

Always surprised to learn of the overseas release of America's Wackiest
Records.



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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:27:27 +0200
From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Free Lunch 7" Record

as performed by Brian Dewan=20

Mr. Lunch makes his debut on VINYL.
Watch this Nacho colored disk spin on your vintage HI-FI.

Record's Price $5.00=20
  =20
Brian Dewan reads the children's book, "Free Lunch,"
by J.otto Seibold and Vivian Walsh.
Dewan accompanies his voice with the:=20
accordion,=20
the autoharp,=20
the Moog,=20
the Hammond Organ,=20
the Electric Piano,
and the drums. =20

http://www.jotto.com/pages/store.FreeLunchRecord.html


Anyone have this?





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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:00:34 -0400
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 20

Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal,
Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

All comments, questions, and feedback welcome.


Space Bop #53   Wild, Cool And Swinging???


Sounds Orchestral:  Simon Says  "Sounds Chartbound"
The Harry Roche Constellation:  Pinball Wizard  "House Of Loungecore"
John Keating:  I Feel The Earth Move  "The Sound Gallery"
Synthesonic Sounds:  House Of The Rising Sun  "House Of Loungecore"
Alan Tew Orchestra:  These Boots Are Made For Walkin'  "Dig It!"

Horst Jankowski:  Shaft  "Black Forest Explosion!"
Lalo Schifrin:  Quiet Village  "Black Widow"
The Tards:  Quiet Village Idiot  "I'm Just Like You"
(two of our votes for most interesting renditions of Quiet Village - The
Tards is a Boyd Rice project, and is quite...unusual, for want of a
better word.  Not too politically correct, either!)

Hugo Montenegro:  More Today Than Yesterday  "Moog Power"
The Dave Pike Set:  Do You Know The Way To San Jose  "Got The Feelin'"
Jimmy Heaps:  Gizmo  "Las Vegas Grind Part 1"
Central High School Cafeteria Band:  First Rhapsody For Knives, Forks
And Spoons  "Las Vegas Grind Part 3"
Pete Roberts:  The Ho Ho Rock  "Las Vegas Grind Part 3"

Claude Denjean:  Sugar Sugar  "Moog!"
Ronnie Aldrich:  Soulful Strut  "Dig It!"
Hugo Strasser:  Black Magic Woman  "Tanzhits '71"
Mrs. Miller:  Chim Chim Cheree  "Mrs. Miller's Greatest Hits"


Thanks for reading.

[e-mail]
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:59:52 +0200
From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) The ages on this list, other threads too

>Speaking of 20s and 30s music, if you're not familiar with them, you =
really
>owe it to yourself to check out the 30s recordings by Slim Gaillard and
>Slam Stewart ("Slim & Slam"). Terrific, casually brilliant stuff like =
"Flat
>Foot Floogie". Various companies have cd comps out.

I record I want by Slim Gaillard is the 1951 10 inch LP called Mish Mash =
feat his Yma Sumac ripoffs.
And I just saw on a record cover that swede Povel Ramels exotica novelty =
song "Chikamboo Safari" from the same year was actuallly released in the =
us, so try search it out. To me its essential humerous but "true" =
exotica close to Slims achievments. Maybe he even recorded it in =
english?

Magnus



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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:01:16 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Heino YODELS (was: Scary Germans)

    Heino: Erzherzog-Johann-Jodler
    from the compilation "Yodelling Crazy"
    CD, EMI CDP 79 8656 2, UK, 1992

    Johan



>From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Scary Germans
>
>There is a great Heino where he YODELS! it's insane....  I can't think of
>the name.




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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:01:10 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Corduroy

    do they have a 100% instrumental CD? i too LOVED the
    few (instro) tracks that i ever heard - indeed very
    close to the sound of the James Taylor Quartet, but never
    bought a full CD because of the vocal tracks, which i
    wouldn't loove i'm sure...

        Johan




>From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>

>I can only judge the band on the basis of the release I have ("High
>Havoc"), which I thought was a very successful blend of now sound, pop &
>funk. Similar in some ways to Mirageman or The James Taylor Quartet with a
>real sense of fun (and some of the vocals have a nice sixties
>Bacharachesque feel to them).




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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:19:21 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Mike Flowers Pops

The Mike Flowers Pops: A groovy place
CD, London 828 743 2, UK, 1996

I must admit that - at first - I only liked MFP for the gimmick: it was a
kind of novelty, hearing a current pop hit in a cocktail arrangement; quite
funny, silly even; but later on I started to appreciate the music of MFP in
itself: super-smooth, cheesy maybe but... hm... nice.

The full cd is a bit too much of always the same, and too short; it would
have been better if they had included the "Macarthur Park" and (especially)
the "Bowie medley" singles...

Originals: "A Groovy Place"; "Crusty Girl";  "Freebase". Covers:
"Wonderwall" (Oasis); "The 'In' Crowd" (Dobie Gray); "Light My Fire" (The
Doors); "Please Release Me" (Jimmy Heap, Esther Philips, Engelbert
Humperdinck...); "Venus as a Boy" (Bjork); "The Velvet Underground Medley:
All tomorrow's parties; Venus in furs; white light white heat"; "1999"
(Prince)

my rating: 3/5

        Johan


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:36:33 +0200
From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Busby Berkely at amazon

These Busby Berkeley movies were available on amazon.com.  Comments?
Brian recommended Gold Diggers of 1935 because of the violin sequence.. =
was that in the ducumentay?

Gold Diggers of 1935 (1935) -- Dick Powell; VHS=20
Babes in Arms (1939) -- Judy Garland; VHS=20
For Me and My Gal (1942) -- Judy Garland; VHS





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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:14:59 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) 1951: Baxter, Quiet, Denny, Yma, 60 Minute, Buick and Tiki Bob - Part One

OK, here I go.

1951 holds a little fascination and excitement for me although I would not be
born for another decade (1961 and 37 years old now thank you very much).

Follow me on this if you will.  My family always had Buicks.  My mother's
Uncle Chick owned the Packard / Buick dealership in Hickory, North Carolina
in the 1930's thru the 50's.  Needless to say, the whole family drove either
Buicks or Packards.  Chick would take a trade on a 2 year old excellent
vehicle then call someone in the family needing a car.

Well, I never knew Chick but he was supposedly the "dandy" of the 8 brothers
and sisters (by the 1960's the word "playboy" would replaced "dandy").  My
relatives always described his fast paced life style, impeccable clothes,
love "follies" (as they called affairs) and zest for life.

So here is the answer to the car question:  I have a 1951 Buick that I
restored a few years back.  The 51 Special came to me by happenstance and was
not a year I sought out.  The 51 Buick (as all pre-solid state car radios)
had a vacuum tube radio and operated by a "vibrator" (now that sounds erotic
not exotic!).  The vibrator converts DC current to AC current to power the
tubes better.

Two radios were offered, one being the standard with 5 pushbuttons that each
had a letter and together spelled B U I C K.  The deluxe radio was the
Wonderbar that had one large button (that still said BUICK) that you pushed
and the radio would seek the next station.  The Wonderbar radio also had a
foot switch that did the same thing so you did not have to hit the
"wonderbar" with your hand.

I have patched a CD player very inconspicuously under the dash and play
mostly Baxter, Denny, Lyman and Sumac while tooling in my Buick. I discovered
my next link to 1951 about 6 years ago.

Hold on for Part 2



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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:15:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) 1951: Baxter, Quiet, Denny, Yma, 60 Minute, Buick and Tiki Bob - Part Two

Part 2

I had gotten into Exotica about 5 years ago - 2 years after I restored the
Buick.  I discovered that some key things happened in 1951.  Baxter wrote
Quiet Village and recorded the RITUAL OF THE SAVAGE album for Capitol.  Yma
Sumac was discovered and did her first recordings also.  Denny was hammering
out tunes at Don the Beachcomber's and also at Henry Kaiser's Hawaiian
Village.  Additionally, and the significance of this may be lost on some of
the list members, The Domino's recorded "Sixty Minute Man" which ushered in
the recorded era of Beach Music.

Beach Music was previously called Race Music and basically included black
bands playing jazzy (and racy) music for the white middle class in the
Carolinas.  The Race Music term came from them being a different race (that
white) and not from the racy lyrics.  It had been around for 20 years but
never recorded because the lyrics were "objectionable".

For sure, parents did not like the lyrics to Sixty Minute Man that describes
the actions of the singer with his girl:

They'll be fifteen minutes of teasing . . . then she'll holler, "Please don't
stop!"
They'll be fifteen minutes of squeezing . . .
Then fifteen minutes of pleasing . . .
Then fifteen minutes of blowing my top!

So if your man ain't treating you right, come up and see old Dan.
I'll rock 'um, roll 'um all night long cause I'm a sixty minute man.

We'll while others of you were growing up in punk or pop (and some even in
exotica), I grew up in the typically Carolina preppy world of Beach Music.
My highschool and college years (1976-1984) were spent shagging the nights
away to both recorded beach music and live bands.  And yes, the dance "The
shag" was named such because of it's racy (there's that word again)
similarity to "doing it.  Just one more reason that parents hated Beach
Music.  Fathers had been in England during WW II and knew just was "shagging"
was.

Buicks, Baxter, Quiet Village, Denny, Sixty Minute Man and Exotica  -- all
1951 connections for me.

So there you have it.  My affinity and affection for 1951.  Hope you enjoyed
the convoluted ride.  While twisty, it's always smooth in a big Buick (with
the Fireball Straight 8 engine and Dynaflow drive).

Warmest regards,

Tiki Bob


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:19:47 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: FW: (exotica) Repairing scratched CD's

In a message dated 6/19/99 9:19:01 AM PST, [e-mail] writes:

<< I had a Who CD that wouldn't play because of a gouge
 from it getting trapped in my console lid.  I took it downtown to the CD
 store.  The machine sands down the surface, then re-applies the polymer. >>

Is this a common service and what kind of store offers this?  I"ve never
heard of this and I live here in L.A.

- - Michele
(Back after a long intermission from this list)


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 20:28:20 +0200
From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) 1951: Baxter, Quiet, Denny, Yma, 60 Minute, Buick and Tiki Bob -Part Two

Only four horror movies done in 1951 according to "Encyclopedia of =
horror". A lame year if it wasnt for the rise of exotica. It must have =
been pleasant days...

Thanks for the story!
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:43:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) APB:  I sold the wrong records!

This is an All-Points Bulletin:

Two nights ago, I went into my 1920s/30s record collection to discover to my
horror that during the last record purge 9 months or more ago, I'd got rid of
the stuff I wanted to save!  Has this ever happened to anybody?  I dropped
off the pile of records ironically at the same store I'd bought them from and
sold it to them!  I didn't realize my mistake because I just dropped off a
pile of them and then later the buyer called me and told me over the phone
with a price.

I am so upset about this I haven't been able to sleep well in days.  About
80% of my small collection is on the Saville label - a British import label
that was re-issuing the stuff on LP format about 10 years ago.  I am on the
verge of tears over this.  A terrible loss.

I called the record store and they say that Saville did release a bunch of
stuff on CD eventually but that they are out of print.  I spent hours on the
internet looking for a Saville record label site, to no avail.  I looked for
some inkling of a 1920s/30s music newsgroup, to no avail.

WMI on the internet had some odds and ends but can't tell if it is Saville
label... Gemm had no Saville label in their system but had alot of Harlequin
label (which used to specialize in this area as well, but now seem to be
heavily into Latin and Cuban issues)... so I may end up ordering some stuff,
but it won't be the same as the Saville stuff.

Does anyone know of a good source to either buy such records, or of CDs that
are available - or of a newsgroup where I might find people who would know
what I'm talking about?  I know there are a few of you at least on this list
into this music (Jill MIngo?) that might be able to help me find vinyl or the
CD reissues or even tell me how to get ahold of Saville.

Thanks in advance,

- - Michele


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:43:55 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Yma is/on 78's

In a message dated 6/19/99 5:13:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< The 10" of 'Ritual of the savage/Le sacre du sauvage' (Capitol H288) was
to my
 > knowledge released in 1952, so the track may indeed be recorded in 1951.

 The history of Exotica as layed down in my head has just been rewritten.

 > By the way, I'm the proud owner of a copy of that 10". >>

I recently acquired thru Ebay (for about 12 bucks ! ! !) the Yma Sumac Voice
of the Xtabay "album" and I do mean album.

Yes, the album includes five 78 records with the original songs from Voice of
the Xtabay.  The album cover is excellent, in color, and the liner notes are
detailed.  It has quickly become one of the prizes of my 78 record collection
- - which is limited.

Of course my favorite is still the Johnny Hamp and His Kentucky Serenaders
version of "Keep Your Sunny Side Up".

Are any members familiar with the Yma 78 album or the Sunny Side Up song?
The latter was on the Paper Moon soundtrack.

Tiki Bob


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:56:40 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bar for sale NOW!

Hi list members:

Mike of Pineapplehead has got a tiki bar on the website for sale right now.
Has been refinished and looks great.  I know there's a few of you out there
that would like to get a tiki bar but don't have a source.  Mike of
Pineapplehead is a rattan and Wakefield refinisher and he's bought and sold
quite a few tiki bars in the past year.  Last time I was at his shop he had 4
tikibars in various states of repair (boy, I wish I had the money to buy
one.... but I don't).  Usually he doesn't even get to list them because they
get bought by buyers who show up for something else and then see the tiki bar
and buy it immediately.  So anyway, this one made it to the website:

http://www.pineapplehad.com/images/grfbrfrnt.jpg

The main site is:  http://www.pineapplehead.com

95% of his business is done via the internet and the mail, so don't worry
about shipping.  You can email him directly off the website.   I have been
bugging him to put the pictures of all the other tikibars that have come
through there on a separate webpage called "tikibars," but so far it hasn't
happened.  In any case, if you are looking for a bar and have some money -
here's your chance.

Also, if you are interested in getting vintage rattan or Heywood Wakefield
furniture, he is your man.

- - Michele


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:02:08 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The Bachelor's Guide to The Galaxy

Did someone on the list say that Vol 1 of this series had all good songs?

Details please.

Tiki Bob


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:04:20 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) how bout this one?

Voodoo Suite/Exotic Suite
Perez Prado
Label: BEAR FAMILY (GER)
Release Date: 10/3/94


Our Price:  $19.88


I have been listening to the Netradio Lounge program.  Can we all say:  Ultra
Lounge!

Tiki Bob


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:10:33 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The ages on this list

At 11:07 AM 6/18/99 +0100, Jill Mingo wrote:
>
>Well, I am 30 on Monday (no, I'm happy about it!) and have been buying
>record LPS since I was 6! My first LP I got that I remember was Sonny Bono's
>"Inner Visions" for my 3rd (!) birthday.

I'm surprised by how young most of you seem to be.  Or at least most of you
who admitted your age.  I know lots of people your ages and younger - "in
real life" - who have become obsessed with all this kind of music but still
I have to admit, it always suprises me.
Myself I'm very interested in old country blues from the twenties and
thirties and even I wasn't alive back then, so it's not like I think you
have to have been alive in order to appreciate the music of a certain era.
I was alive when the vast majority of the music we discuss here was
produced but I wasn't interested in the vast majority of it at the time.
In fact, to the degree I was aware of it, I hated most of it.  And
tolerated the rest of it.
Anyway, it's a good lesson for me to be once again reminded not to assume
any relationship between musical taste and age.
The other day at the record store, I had an argument with my friend the
owner over an early 60's Johnny Cash LP he had put out for thirty bucks,
which I thought was a bit much.  Then he left for a while and a little girl
of thirteen or so came in with her friend.  I was about to direct them to
the Bush CD's when she asked if we had any Johnny Cash.  I pointed out the
record I had just argued over.
She started to squeal and jump up and down in excitement, proclaiming
"That's the one!  I've been looking for this my whole life!!!"
The price was no object.  This was the holy grail.  She laid down the money
and floated out of there, still squealing in delight.

Nat




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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:10:37 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quiet Village

At 01:56 AM 6/18/99 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>I have been trying to determine the best version of the song "Quiet
Village".
>Some of my favorites are the version by Martin Denny (the bossa-nova
version)
>and the timeless Arthur Lyman cut.
>
>I want some input on everyone's personal favorites

My favourite versions, as far as I can remember, are by The Surfmen on
their Exotic Island LP and the one by Living Percussion.
If I had to choose between the two I might come down on the side of the
Surfmen, if only because they make the funniest fake animal and bird sounds
I think I've ever heard.  One of them in particular sounds more like a guy
getting a hot poker up his ass than any exotic bird I've ever heard.

Nat



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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:41:46 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Jack "Bongo" Burger

Anyone have any info on Jack "Bongo" Burger?  I only have three selections
by this guy...on two compilation discs from Hi Fi/Rykodisc.  I have scoured
LP racks in vain for an album by him...even another selection on a compilation
record or CD.  All the tunes I heard him do were great!

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:46:13 -0400
From: mkoldys <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rare Enoch Light CD

I've been playing with my CD recorder again, and I transferred two Enoch
Light records to CD: Persuasive Percussion Vol 3 and Provocative
Percussion Vol 4. These are mastered from Command open-reel tapes. I ran
off a copy for myself and one additional, but the person who I thought
wanted it doesn't. So I'm putting it up on ebay starting at a
ridiculously low price. If you have an interest, you can check it out at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=1199
74781


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:47:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) collecting

In a message dated 6/19/99 6:48:37 AM,
[e-mail] wrote:

>And if you're accusing us of 'cultural thievery' for apreciating non-white
>British music, you may want to note that you lot simply dismiss or ignore
>Black American culture, it takes a nation like ours to appreciate and
>celebrate Black American music, taking soul, funk, reggae, disco, hip hop
>and house and accepting them as a part of the mainstream rather than as
>some sort of sub-cultural undercurrent.

Less an accusation than an observation and it is admirable that you
mainstream all types of music in England. I recall the culture clubs and the
different music nights in London in the mid 80's when I last visited. That's
done here as well. Its radio here that's messed up, not the appreciation of
music. Radio is formatted to death here in the U.S.and very exclusionary. R&B
enjoys a stronger following here than you might think, however. Practically
every major city now has a "Jammin'" station which plays all rap and hip-hop.
The hardest R&B stuff to find on the air is 6T's soul, funk, and pre-rap
black music. I was saying that American popular music is the music that the
British like best. The British Invasion as we call it here was essentially
recycled Americana re-packaged and sold to us as British music. And we bought
it when it was sitting here under our noses the whole time. But to say we
(presumably American "whites") ignore Black American culture is simply
untrue. We experience it right here, not from a distance


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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:25:27 +0100
From: Michael Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Busby Berkely / wacky germans / scratched CD's

In message , Stephen W. Worth <[e-mail]> writes
>
>A friend of mine had a tape of some of this stuff. It was amazing.
>Between songs a slimy announcer with a pronounced German accent
>would come on and make silly jokes about Winston Churchill and
>FDR. Then he would politely say, "Vy don't you soldier boys just
>go home to your vives and families and schtopp boddering the
>innocent German people?" I seriously doubt anyone was convinced,
>if they listened to these broadcasts at all.

Somewhere in my boxes of records in storage (*sniff*)
I've got a record called "Lord Haw Haw's Greatest Hits" which is a
collection of the wartime propaganda broadcasts by "Lord Haw Haw" which
is pretty neat.

"Lord Haw Haw" (William Joyce) was an American who lived most of his
life in Ireland before going to Germany in 1939 to join the Nazi
Ministry of Propaganda where he began broadcasting a series of cynical
programmes aimed to disrupting the British war effort.

He was tried and hanged for treason after the war (he had managed to
obtain a British Passport when he was living in Ireland so the British
were able to get him)

While most of this record is Haw Haw berating the British War effort it
does have some music which I remember as been very very odd.

http://earthstation1.com/Lord_Haw_Haw.html
Has more info. & some wav files..

Cheers

Mike
Michael Davidson
Auckland, New Zealand


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:20:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Suite

Someone was looking for a copy of the Exotica Suite
about a week back. If you're stiil looking, drop a line.
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:04:03 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quiet Village

In a message dated 6/19/99 3:15:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< > << I have liked every version I ever heard, which really isn't that
many. I
 >  first heard this song done by Les Baxter. It was a 1951 recording on his
 >  RITUAL OF THE SAVAGE album for Capitol.  >>

 1951? Are you sure?  Was the album put out that early as well? I always
 thought the "Voodoo Suite" was the original Exotica album of all times. >>



That was the listing on my CD that was put out by captiol.

Jason


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 99 21:19:58 -0500
From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Busby Berkeley

>Has there ever been a 3rd part of "That's entertainment", as
>was reported in the media some two years ago?
Yes indeed, and by then they were really looking at bottom-of-the-barrel
stuff so there are some really weird segments in there.

Elisabeth


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:22:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Denny Martin

OK,  so how is this bastard??????

Seriously, he is a bastard:

http://www.deadlounge.com/dennymartin/index.html

somebody please blast him.

tiki bob


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