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exotica-digest Thursday, June 10 1999 Volume 02 : Number 413
In This Digest:
Re: (exotica) Gil Scott Heron
(exotica) Lots o' Records
Re: (exotica) arthur murray/tango riff
Re: (exotica) Tango (was: arthur murray/tango riff)
(exotica) Gil Scott Heron
Re: (exotica) um... ok...
(exotica) Singer Mel Torme mourned
RE: (exotica) arthur murray/tango riff
Re: (exotica) Singer Mel Torme mourned
(exotica) M/A/R/R/S Pump Up the Volume
(exotica) Re: M/A/R/R/S Pump Up the Volume
RE: (exotica) Tango sites
Re: (exotica) M/A/R/R/S Pump Up the Volume
(exotica) J Pop & Shibuya-kei on Trattoria
(exotica) Beyond the Valley of the Dolls OST LP
(exotica) Tango
Re: (exotica) um... ok...
(exotica) They're Really (Soft) Rockin' In Boston
(exotica) my little record player
Re: (exotica) They're Really (Soft) Rockin' In Boston
Re: (exotica) my little record player
(exotica) Morricone translation
Re: (exotica) my little record player
(exotica) Enter the dragon OST
Fw: (exotica) um... ok...
(exotica) Argentinians
(exotica) Brass and Ivory
Re: (exotica) Morricone translation
(exotica) (OT) Help requested...
(exotica) Targeted!
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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:34:49 -0400
From: "Brian Phillips" <hagar@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Gil Scott Heron
>anger thing the last poets are thee way to go. also
>have them on crackly tape.
Glad to see a mention of the Last Poets. Many contemporary Rappers should=
tip their hat to them. For those who want more backing than drums, their=
album "At Last" has a full band. M/A/R/R/S' "Pump up the Volume" also=
sampled LP's "Mean Machine Chant.
This is madness,
Brian Phillips
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:42:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Risser <knucklehead000@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Lots o' Records
Jane Fondle mentioned that she visits family in FL and buys fifty
records at a time. Me too. Or at least, last time I did. I bought 66
records at 22 bucks. But it cost me well over 50 bucks (maybe even as
high as 70... ?) to ship 'em all back to Ohio.
Anyone have any tips for getting massive amounts of records to your
home base?
Just wondering,
Peter
PS: Everyone should have Ron light a candle for them and their records
at the Tiki alter. Worked great!!
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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:16:48 +0200
From: Moritz R <exotica@munich.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) arthur murray/tango riff
> by the way, collecting original tango lps is pretty popular down here. =
some
> of that
> 20-40s stuff is being reissued in cd, you may found excellent editions =
by
> the swiss
> label El Bandoneon (which is the name of the main tango instrument, and
> which
> NEVER appears in muzak tango versions like les baxter=B4s)
>
Can you recommend something? Are there argentinan internet sites?
Terribly interested in Hugo Caril and Osvaldo Pugliese....
Mo
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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:17:33 +0200
From: Moritz R <exotica@munich.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tango (was: arthur murray/tango riff)
Tango... I hardly dare to touch this, it's probably endless.
Has anyone ever heard of Hugo Caril? Singing "India"? That's one of the
deepest and most touching songs I've ever heard.
And Osvaldo Pugliese? What a master! What devotion! Concentration!
Some ten or so years ago he played one of his last gigs in Holland,
Amsterdam... 90 years old, accompanied by his wife and a bandoneon
orchestra. And I missed it! Shame on me! Have you been there, Ton, Marco
or the other Dutch in this list?
"el rebenque de la vida
me ha golpeado sin cesar..."
"The whip of life,
has beaten me constantly..."
"How could I forget you in my dirge,
caf=E9 of Buenos Aires,
you're the only thing in my life,
that was like my mother.
>From your strange mixture
of "sabinodos" (wise men) and "suicidas"
I learned philosophy, dice and gambling
and the cruel poetry
not to think of myself anymore..."
"In the pillow I see a blonde spot,
your absent little head, that I believed to kiss,
and my eyes see you - don't you remember?-
happier and blonder than champagne.
Go away! I don't want your tendernesses.
defiled by the make up of your lips,
still warm from a different encounter,
it's obvious, they are freshly painted.
Turn off the light.
Close the door.
I don't want to see you, detested woman.
Let me alone, alone with my pain.
I don't want to see you anymore. Come back tomorrow!"
Ah! (Shudder!) Life is a lie compared to Tango!
- -Mo
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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:15:05 -0500
From: "Mark D. Head" <mdhbene@airmail.net>
Subject: (exotica) Gil Scott Heron
I wouldn't have expected to see postings about GSH but since there are a
few I thought I'd ask if anyone could help me with this question: I am
almost sure that a tape I made from radio some 15+ years ago (or more)
included a song by GSH because the dj's back-announce said GSH referring
to a song with the lyrics/chorus "Thinking of you always, you're in, my
mind, I'm with you - thinking of you always..." Anyone recognize that
as being associated with GSH? I've never been able to pin it down to
any of his releases that I could find in the stores, nor on a track
listing from internet music shops.... Thanks.
- --
Mark D. Head
Exotica List Lurker
mdhbene@airmail.net
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TANSTAAFL!
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:34:33 EDT
From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) um... ok...
In a message dated 06/09/99 3:29:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kingkini@tamboo.com writes:
<< but Kini's mercenaries are an amalgamation of
>lackluster insipid mendicants, sophomoric menaces, and other unregenerate
>smut peddlers. >>
that's me -- an "unregenerate smut peddler" --- sounds better than a
"lackluster insipid mendicant"
tiki bob
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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:57:23 -0500
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) Singer Mel Torme mourned
LOS ANGELES, June 8 (UPI) -- Several hundred people, including actors Cliff
Robertson, Charlton Heston and singer-dancer Donald O'Connor, joined family,
friends and fans in paying tribute to the late singer Mel Torme, who died
Saturday at the age of 73.
The singer, who was known as The Velvet Fog, was honored today at services
at Westwood Memorial Park in Los Angeles, where his grave is halfway between
those of Marilyn Monroe and Al Jolson.
O'Connor called Torme a lifelong friend who was known for his constant
smile and his ability to make a funny situation out of most every event.
Heston sent his message on tape and said Torme's battle with the aftermath
of his 1996 stroke was ``heroic.'' He noted the tremendous frustration the
singer must have felt in not being able to perform following the stroke.
Comedian Harry Anderson noted that Torme brought a sence of impishness to
the set of the ``Night Court'' TV sitcom, on which the two appeared.
In one of Torme's last interviews, Torme told UPI that his appearances on
``Night Court,'' MTV and a series of soft drink commercials introduced him
to younger audiences in the 1980s and '90s.
Torme said he never stopped trying to improve his singing. ``That's what
keeps me interested in singing, the fact that...you never say 'Yeah, now I'm
a polished singer. You never do that.''
With a personal repertoire of 5,000 songs, his material ranged from Jerome
Kern and Oscar Hammerstein, to Richard Rogers and Lorenz Hart, Paul Whiteman
and to nearly 250 songs he wrote himself, including the holiday classic,
``The Christmas Song.''
Speaking just two months before the stroke that incapacitated him, Torme
said he wanted to keep singing for many more years. ``There are still hoards
of songs that I have not sung, and I want to get at them as soon as I can.''
Despite the resurgent popularity after a career that spanned more than 60
years, Torme said he still considered himself ``the ultimate jazz singer.''
And this from Phil "Firesign Theatre" Proctor (see, even comedians post obits!):
VOICES STILLED
Actor Ed Gilbert, 67, whose voice was familiar to children everywhere as the
character "Baloo" in Disney's "Jungle Book" as well as in features like "The
Little Mermaid", stopped talking after a 40-year career on May 8, not far
from us in Benedict Canyon, after a brave battle with lung cancer.
In addition to his entertainment career, Gilbert was also a celebrated and
widely published biologist who discovered, wrote about and illustrated over
100 previously unknown species of insects during years of research trips
into the jungles of Central and South America. Donations can be made in his
memory to Nature Conservancy, 11340 West Olympic Blvd, Suite 246, LA, CA
90064-1612.
Also, a noisy sendoff to James Bladdes, a 97-year-old musician who made
gunshots and thunder for silent movies and was famous for the "Gong!" that
preceded J. Arthur Rank's productions. During World War II, he created "the
greatest noise I ever made" -- a BBC "V for Victory" signal pounded out on
an African drum, broadcast 150 times a day to encourage Resistance Fighters.
And then we sing a fond farewell to Melvin Howard Torme. who scatted out of
life yesterday. I loved his music, and often saw him perform live with my
parents in the 50s. We called him "The Velvet Frog" in his later years,
because he started life looking like a Prince... A prolific and
multi-talented artist, his most memorable legacy besides his recorded vocals
is "The Christmas Song," co-authored on a sweltering summer day in L.A. to
try and cool off and eventually released in over 1,300 versions.
When asked why he kept singing the "old songs", Torme said they were simply
better. "When young rock singers began writing their own, they displaced the
community of songwriters who worked with grace, wit, charm, intelligence and
brilliance."
In fact, Torme got so discouraged about the state of popular music that at
one point in the '60s, he decided to chuck it and he went to school to
become an airline pilot. Well, he's flying now. And singing, I'm sure.
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:16:01 -0300
From: "christian courtis" <courtis@netizen.com.ar>
Subject: RE: (exotica) arthur murray/tango riff
hugo del carril was quite a character... great tango singer, movie direct=
or,
got famous singing the widely known peronist march... after the coup d=B4=
etat
that overthrew peron (yeah, evita=B4s husband) in 1955, he suffered from
censorship, boycott. great voice, tenor-like, maybe
his work is untidily reissued in cd, at least here in argentina -if someo=
ne
wants to start
a trade...
osvaldo pugliese is one of the masters of tango orchestras. he led an
orchestra
from the late 20s to the 90s. he died four o five years ago, when he was=
92
or 93.
incredible piano player, there=B4s a tune characterizing his ryhtmic styl=
e
called "la yumba".
pugliese was probably among the finest arrangers of the mainstream. he wa=
s a
member
of the argentine communist party, and he when he suffered incarceration f=
or
political
demonstrations, his band would play without the piano player, but with a =
red
flower
on the piano...
i will check about argentinian sites... some are run by the government, b=
ut
maybe you can pick
something useful from them
mimi asked my to post a message i previously sent her
here it goes
tango was popular in europe between wars -germany, france, italy,
spain. lots of these "mainstream tango era" bands toured in europe
for months -they were considered heroes down here, like soccer players.
there were also european adaptations -mostly italian- of dancehall
tango -deemed
to be very poor by argentinian tango fans. some of that stuff would be
somewhere
in between real tango and les baxter=B4s tango. probably there paradigm o=
f
"fake tango" is rodolfo valentino dancing in silent movies of the 20s.
i love piazzolla, of course -but it=B4s as saying one loves miles davis
piazzolla was actually the arranger of one of the finest mainstream tango
band -anibal troilo. he began with his own orchestra in tha late 50s, sti=
ll
in a popular
trend -tango orchestras used to have crooners, for example, and piazzolla=
=B4s
had his own.
the guy listened to be bop, ravel, debussy, stravinsky, bartok, and begun=
to
smuggle
strange arrangements for popular tunes. he gained some rejection by criti=
cs
and public,
and he gradually became more and more avantguardish. the typical tango
orchestra features
4 violins. 4 or 5 bandoneons, a piano and an upright bass. piazzolla came
down to a kind of
chamber group lining up himself in bandoneon, an upright bass, a violin, =
an
electric guitar and
a piano. other line-ups featured a percussionist and a cello player. very
far from the
mainstream. there=B4s still lots of people that consider that piazzolla i=
s not
tango -there
were public discussions about this in the 70s!
cheers,
christian
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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 17:29:45 -0400
From: "Brian Phillips" <hagar@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Singer Mel Torme mourned
>Actor Ed Gilbert, 67, whose voice was familiar to children everywhere as=
the
>character "Baloo" in Disney's "Jungle Book"
To put a finer point on it, he was Baloo in the Disney TV series "Tale=
Spin". Before Baloo was forced to work the "small screen" as we showbiz=
types put it, he was voiced by Phil Harris.
I discovered a *boomboomboom*,
Brian Phillips
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:39:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) M/A/R/R/S Pump Up the Volume
One of my late/mid 80's favs. I heard a remix of it down in Mexico once that was truly
amazing. Any clue about this. I have one 12 inch of it but in Mexico it was a dubbier
remix then the domestic 12 inch.
There's a great 12 inch singles record store in D. C. that probably has more then one
remix of this. I can't remember the name of that store but they always carrried what
I was looking for.
Easy Listening in the Big Easy
Chuck
- --- Brian Phillips <hagar@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Glad to see a mention of the Last Poets. Many contemporary Rappers should tip their
> hat to them. For those who want more backing than drums, their album "At Last" has a
> full band. M/A/R/R/S' "Pump up the Volume" also sampled LP's "Mean Machine Chant.
>
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:46:04 -0500
From: kingkini@tamboo.com
Subject: (exotica) Re: M/A/R/R/S Pump Up the Volume
there was a second 12" single released in the UK back in the day with
a different mix and different cover. it was "limited" and never
released in the US. could have been this.
- kk
>One of my late/mid 80's favs. I heard a remix of it down in Mexico
>once that was truly
>amazing. Any clue about this. I have one 12 inch of it but in
>Mexico it was a dubbier
>remix then the domestic 12 inch.
>
>There's a great 12 inch singles record store in D. C. that probably
>has more then one
>remix of this. I can't remember the name of that store but they
>always carrried what
>I was looking for.
>
>Easy Listening in the Big Easy
>Chuck
>
>
visit...
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T
http://www.tamboo.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:43:46 -0300
From: "christian courtis" <courtis@netizen.com.ar>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Tango sites
well, there=B4s a bit of everything. lots of these
are run by argentinian people all over the world (like the muenchen
site, which is great for lyrics)
have fun
http://www.sni.net/dtango7/Tango_Cds.html
http://www.tango.montreal.qc.ca/
http://www.grippo.com.ar/argentina/espanol/arts/tango.htm
http://sunsite.ubc.ca/TangoBC/tango-links.htm
http://pweb.sophia.ac.jp/~b-astigu/argentina/tangos/
http://arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/rec/argentina/tango.html
christian
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:56:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fish Wich <fishwich1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) M/A/R/R/S Pump Up the Volume
That record store is 12 Inch Dance Records at 20th and
P Streets NW. Their site is at www.12inchdance.com.
Regards,
Mark
>
> One of my late/mid 80's favs. I heard a remix of it
> down in Mexico once that was truly
> amazing. Any clue about this. I have one 12 inch
> of it but in Mexico it was a dubbier
> remix then the domestic 12 inch.
>
> There's a great 12 inch singles record store in D.
> C. that probably has more then one
> remix of this. I can't remember the name of that
> store but they always carrried what
> I was looking for.
>
> Easy Listening in the Big Easy
> Chuck
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:15:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) J Pop & Shibuya-kei on Trattoria
There's a great new v/a sampler of the Trattoria label I picked up from dusty groove
called "Prego! 99 Camp-Master.
There are two Cornelius remixes: "Milk Rock" by Takako Minekawa and "Windy hill" by
the Pastels and the Ape Man makes an appearance himself on a wonderful shibuya-kei
styled song called "Lazy"
Much of the selections are straight ahead J Pop which is indie pop with great sweet
melodies but there are appearances by European bands and one of my favorite Brian
Wilson influenced indie bands, Apples in Stereo does"Man You Gotta Get Up"
If you like Chocolat and Cornelius this is in a similiar vain. Some of the faster
songs off the last Fantastic Plastic Machine and Yukari Fresh also are similar. This
is full of quirky melodies, catchy hooks & some of the songs really rock in an indie
way. I am surprised how infectious some of the melodies are. This is really a good J
pop and Shibuya Kei comp, there seems to be a lot going on in Japan these days.
Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:21:08 +0100
From: "Robbie Baldock" <rcb@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: (exotica) Beyond the Valley of the Dolls OST LP
I have a couple of copies of this vinyl "reissue" for sale.
Please email me privately if interested.
Robbie
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:38:00 +0200
From: Moritz R <exotica@munich.netsurf.de>
Subject: (exotica) Tango
Thanks alot, christian, for your interesting info about Hugo del Carril,
Osvaldo Pugliese and Astor Piazolla. It's great to have someone from the
home-country of tango in this list!
- -Mo
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=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95
http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt
Second e-mail adress: tiki@europe.com
=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=
=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95
check it out:
http://www.wendycarlos.com/index.html
http://www.ckut.ca/english/ear.html
http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com
http://members.aol.com/coolstrge/coolpage.html
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/denny.html
http://www.tikinews.com
http://www.tamboo.com
http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada
http://www.creative.net/~babydoe
http://www.popvoid.com/index.html
http://www.jotto.com/menu.html
http://www.inhi-fi.com/flora
http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html
http://www.telegate.se/bonk
http://www.spumco.com
http://www.tiac.net/users/zoids
http://www.online.prevezanos.com
http://www.merricks.de
http://www.sympathyrecords.com
http://www.marina.com
http://www.atatak.com
http://www.tikimania.com
http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam
http://home.plex.nl/~mojoto
http://www.taiga.com/~paul/TSA1.HTM
http://www.palantir.net/2001/sounds.html
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/9798
http://www.cockeyed.com
http://www.appd.de
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/1812/index.html
http://205.243.132.23/expose.html
http://www.primenet.com/~rfwatts/haarp/haarp.html
http://www.rheingold.com
http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate
http://www.neosoft.com/cgi-bin/paml_search
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/lsdmenu.htm
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:51:46 -0400
From: "telstar" <telstar@albedo.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) um... ok...
King Kini asked:
> someone sent me this last night... thought you all may like to see.
> maybe someone can explain it to me!
It was most likely produced on the Automatic Complaint-Letter Generator. Go
to: http://csag.cs.uiuc.edu/individual/pakin/complaint for hours of fun.
Allan
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:21:50 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) They're Really (Soft) Rockin' In Boston
Today's Finds:
"The Sugar Shoppe" The Sugar Shoppe LP
"Phantasy" Tommy Roe LP
"The Innocence" The Innocence LP
"Playgirl" Thee Prophets LP
"In The Morning" Status Cymbal LP
"Not For Smoking" The Blades Of Grass LP
"The River Is Wide" The Forum LP
"Without Rhyme Or Reason" Spanky & Our Gang
"It's A Happening World" The Tokens
The guy showed me a Japanese want-list of soft rock titles. I had never heard
of either the albums or the groups............
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:32:39 EDT
From: BasicHip@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) my little record player
I picked up a portable record player this week. An industrial strength
classroom model, a Newcomb Audio. You carry it like a suitcase.
Mostly I got it to play these 78's I've been slowly accumulating. I also
wanted to be able tote my little record player to work along with an armful
of whistling and carillon records and entertain my co-workers. ;)
After listening to the 78's, I checked out some 45's and 33's. "Hey, this
works great, sounds pretty good, too," I thought. After a couple of more
records, it started to hit me. My records sound better on this little
machine than on my modern stereo. How could this be? I don't even know what
kind of needle is on the damn thing. You flip it in one direction for 45 and
33, then the other way for 78.
The acid test came when I put on Danny and Dena's Adventure In Sound, a
record that never sounded good on my "good" system, there was so much surface
noise. I have many other records like this, too. They look clean, but play
noisy. So I put this record on my little record player and sure enough, the
surface noise was much less noticeable. It sounded warmer too, not as thin.
What is going on here? Am I just blinded by my excitement over my new toy?
Does my modern stereo suck? Or do fourty year old records really sound best
on equipment of similar age?
Drop me a line if you have a thought on this and thanks.
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:10:00 -0400
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) They're Really (Soft) Rockin' In Boston
At 09:21 PM 6/9/99 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote:
>
>Today's Finds:
>"The Sugar Shoppe" The Sugar Shoppe LP
Oh man. Kill me if I buy a Sugar Shoppe LP. They were a Toronto band and
of course they were a total joke to all us real music fans.
Now I bet I'd like it.
I knew this soft rock thing would be the death of me.
>"Phantasy" Tommy Roe LP
I played a Tommy Roe record at the store a couple of days ago. I was
relieved that I didn't like it.
I also played a Lobo record. Same reaction, thank God.
But I have to admit. I didn't hate them.
>"Playgirl" Thee Prophets LP
I had this but I sold it. Of course, that was before the soft rock thing
bit me - or "gummed" me might be a better description. Licked me?
I can get it back. It's still at the store. Should I? Would I love it
now Jimmy?
Nat
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:29:52 -0400
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) my little record player
At 01:32 AM 6/10/99 EDT, BasicHip@aol.com wrote:
>I picked up a portable record player this week. An industrial strength
>classroom model, a Newcomb Audio. You carry it like a suitcase.
>
>Mostly I got it to play these 78's I've been slowly accumulating.
>
>The acid test came when I put on Danny and Dena's Adventure In Sound, a
>record that never sounded good on my "good" system, there was so much
surface
>noise. I have many other records like this, too. They look clean, but play
>noisy. So I put this record on my little record player and sure enough, the
>surface noise was much less noticeable. It sounded warmer too, not as thin.
Well I tried the experiment with the same record and I have to agree. I'm
actually hearing things on the record that I've never heard before.
In general, I think that my 78's sound better on my classroom model - the
"Rheem Califone 1440" - than they do on my friend's stereo with the special
needle and all. But that makes sense. Those 78's weren't "high fidelity"
and they belong on this machine.
(That's not to say that I haven't heard 78's sound wonderful on stereo
systems that were essentially "dedicated" to playing 78's exclusively. A
serious 78 collector can have anywhere from a half dozen to dozens of
different needles in order to "correctly" play all his records.)
Anyway, it makes sense to me that certain records will sound better coming
out of this speaker.
But the needle thing is kind of mysterious. I'm not even sure there IS a
needle there but I do know that when I flip the switch from "78" to "LP",
the sound changes.
And it doesn't explain why this particular record sounds better on this
machine. But it could just be that the "balance" of this arm digs better
into a record as whipped as this one is.
Isn't it interesting that we both have crappy copies? Maybe they were
crappy to begin with.
Anyway, thanks for the post. I'm enjoying this record now.
Nat
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:37:30 -0400
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: (exotica) Morricone translation
I'm listening to this heavenly beautiful CD that my friend just lent me.
It's a Morricone soundtrack but I don't know if it's the original
soundtrack. In fact, it's all in Italian and I don't know anything.
The title of the film might be "Metti,una sera a cena l'assolute naturale"
Or "l'assulute naturale" might not be part of the title. (Does that mean
"original soundtrack"? Am I going to be embarrassed?)
No wait. I think those are TWO separate film titles.
Well the first half of the CD is about as beautiful and perfect as any
music I've heard in a long long time. Could that be the music for "Metti
una sera"?
I can get my friend to burn me a CD copy but if there's more of this I can
get or if anyone can tell me what the film is...
I have a fair bit of Morricone. I thought I knew Morricone.
But this is different, yet somehow the same and really beautiful.
Then again, there are these lovely female voices on the CD and I have been
listening to all this soft pop as you know, so maybe I'm not in the best
position to judge...
Nat
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:17:47 +0000
From: bag@hubris.net
Subject: Re: (exotica) my little record player
>After listening to the 78's, I checked out some 45's and 33's. "Hey, this
>works great, sounds pretty good, too," I thought. After a couple of more
>records, it started to hit me. My records sound better on this little
>machine than on my modern stereo. How could this be?
Could be the needle.
All records or just 78's? I am beginning to learn that stylus shape and size
can be very important in picking up the right audio info. If the stylus is
too small, you end up reading mainly dust accumulated at the bottom of the
groove. But beware the larger or blunter needle which will scrape off the
vinyl!
78's require a larger needle because they have macrogrooves (as opposed to
the microgrooves on LPs). I also believe the needle shape was somewhat
different.
There is even a different type of groove cutting which I don't quite
understand yet. Apparently everything recorded in recent years has been
lateral cutting, but in the 40's and before there was a technique known as
vertical cutting and you needed to be prepared to reproduce it in the same
way. Still, I have been able to play a vertical record on my turntable and
didn't flip a switch or anything. Could be it is not reproducing the way
it is supposed to, but it reproduces something?!
With more questions than answers....
Byron
Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:46:20 +0100
From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk
Subject: (exotica) Enter the dragon OST
I recall someone was looking for this recently, it appears to have been
recently bootlegged onto vinyl, I picked up a copy from the local Hip
hop shop yesterday (ten pounds, thank you very much). Pretty good,
some shaft moments some crime jazzy moments, and an excellent track of
cocktail music a bit like the slower moments on the schudelmadchen LP.
I like it. The only drawback is the lack of gaps between the tracks,
side 2 is just one track, making it all but useless for playing out.
It also has what sounds like the inspiration for the soundtrack for 'The
Taking of Pelham 123'. Definitely much more Lalo-tastic than Quiet
Village.
El Maestro Con Queso
djcheesemaster@yahoo.com
grr@brighton.ac.uk
http://www.sgillitt.dircon.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:41:21 -0400
From: "telstar" <telstar@albedo.net>
Subject: Fw: (exotica) um... ok...
Re: the Complaint-Letter Generator, the url should read...
http://www-csag.cs.uiuc.edu/individual/pakin/complaint
Sorry for the confusion
Allan
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:13:59 +0100
From: "Charles Moseley" <Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM>
Subject: (exotica) Argentinians
Bit of a long shot this, but does anybody know an LP by Renny somebody
called Music to Watch Girls By? The record is from Argentina and is
Prado-ish.
Thanks
Charlie
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:26:06 +0100
From: "Charles Moseley" <Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM>
Subject: (exotica) Brass and Ivory
I just noticed that California Albums has a copy of Brass and Ivory by Tony
Osbourne (and his three brass buttons) for sale in their instrumental
artists section. This lp is a UK only release and two tracks are featured
on the Further In Flight Entertainment compilation. It is a very good lp,
full of straight, jazzy British easy listening. I wholeheartily recommend
it.
Charlie
www.californiaalbums.com
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:26:33 +0200
From: Hans Adell <m96had@bratwustle.hbg.lth.se>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Morricone translation
>I'm listening to this heavenly beautiful CD that my friend just lent me.
>It's a Morricone soundtrack but I don't know if it's the original
>soundtrack. In fact, it's all in Italian and I don't know anything.
>The title of the film might be "Metti,una sera a cena l'assolute naturale"
>Or "l'assulute naturale" might not be part of the title. (Does that mean
>"original soundtrack"? Am I going to be embarrassed?)
It's two soundtracks on one CD. "L'ASSOLUTO NATURALE" ("SHE AND HE"), and
"METTI UNA SERA A CENA" both from 1969. I've found both CD:s on CINEVOX,
even with nice CD-covers as a bonus. Hurra!
Pick Up Records
(http://www.pickuprecords.it/html/export/cinevox/morricone/) is distributor
of CINEVOX. Also available there is "THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE"
which is so perfectly soft, dreamy and beatiful with female
lalalalalala-lalalalalala-vocals, that I whish I lived in the same Dario
Argento movie and the movie was neverending. Don't think those Italians
want a silly Swede in there now afterwards though. But I dream on.
Lalalalalala lalalalalala!
/Hans
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:34:54 -0400
From: Citizen Kafka <ckafka@dti.net>
Subject: (exotica) (OT) Help requested...
Hi, everyone,
A close friend of mine is dealing with a life-threatening illness. She
has been mainly in the hospital for the past few weeks, including a
dreadful hospital induced infection which almost did her in and a toxic
reaction to her chemical treatments for the actual ailment (aplastic
anemia). Prognosis is not good. She is in her 50's.
Her request to me: wacky upbeat get well cards (sexual theme stuff NOT
REQUIRED but acceptable...). The main thing is not lugubrious,
well-meaning new age type serious stuff, but fun and wacky. This is my
thought: ask all my correspondents and list-member acquaintances.
Handmade and homemade cards are especially welcome. Simple is great,
complex is great, fun is required! Please send along with card,
separately, the type of music you most enjoy. Her name is Shirah, it's
OK (not required) to say citizen kafka sent you, etc.
No chain, no ulterior motive, just a great image of piles of wonderful
get well greetings a la "it's a wonderful life" courtroom scene.
Thanks in advance. Send everything to:
Citizen Kafka c/o Rech
270 Jay St. # 12D
Brooklyn, NY 11201-1919
(718) 488-7207
Thanks! any additional info or questions, just e-mail back.
ck
- --
Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air"
every Wednesday 7-8 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM
http://www.megasaver.com/page2/smradio.html
http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu'
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:47:40 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <nminer@jhmi.edu>
Subject: (exotica) Targeted!
Hey all:
Went to Target last night and beheld a wonderful site.......a rack chock =
full of vintage-style Hawaiian shirts AND a rack of 3 different t-shirts =
with TIKIS on 'em!
I'm $100 poorer, but walked away with an armful of kitsch......a black one =
with ukeleles/orchids, on the back a large graphic of guy in hammock with =
two tikis in the corner - bamboo words "Gone to Paradise" - another black =
one with playing cards scattered over it, orchids, the cards have flowers =
for the spades, hearts, etc. and the K, Q, J cards have hula girls in the =
midde - verdant island scene with those planes that land in the water, =
native girls serving white man with a tray of tropical drinks, and the =
moon and palm trees - and one with pale red background and orchid/palm =
tree islands scattered over it.
One of the shirts had replaced the thatched huts with beach front =
high-rises!!!!
They also had one with different mixed drinks scattered over it (black - =
no tiki mugs), one with vintage motel neon signs, one with pool balls =
scattered (least favorite) and 4 other "paradise in the island" prints. I =
wanted 'em all!!!
The t-shirt is a cool "washed" brown/green with three classid tiki faces =
(tiki leilani, easter island, and "ugly tiki") taken from mug designs =
lined up in the center with orchids/greenery beneath them.
The other shirts weren't as cool. One had a multicolored tiki large in =
the center of a white shirt - the other a white shirt with off-centered =
black "wood block print" graphic of tiki ("CoCoa (sp??) Joeish look") =
advertising a dance Sat. night.
After rolling her eyes at me, my girlfriend slapped two pastel colored =
Henley shirts in my lap, "Here!" (But on the way out, I also snagged a =
"50's hoodlum" cotton button-up, black with "V" front in white piping.)
Crazy Nate
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