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exotica-digest        Monday, February 1 1999        Volume 02 : Number 308



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) House
Re: (exotica) copyrights (was: House)
(exotica) Re: Album Scanning Question(s)
(exotica) Re: Formats
(exotica) Re: Recommended?
Re: (exotica) UL Peeves/Thrifting Report
(exotica) Fellini, Marxists and Zombie tv
Re: (exotica) UL Peeves/Thrifting Report
(exotica) Gator, Gas and a Gremlin
(exotica) Sampling
(exotica) Introduction, Mitch Miller, and Inquiry
Re: (exotica) Re: Album Scanning Question(s)
Re: (exotica) UL Peeves/Thrifting Report
Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris "Sacrebleu" French <-> US version
Re: (exotica) Casino Royale
Re: (exotica) Casino Royale
(exotica) Mirageman
(exotica) Peter Thomas' Chariots Of The Gods
(exotica) More tv listings for this week
(exotica) AP: Online Auction Customers Beware
(exotica) Huntz Hall + 4 obits
(exotica) Dave Pell
(exotica) Moog Fluting on EBay
(exotica) Esquivel's So in Love

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:06:22 +0100
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) House

Hugh Petfield wrote:

> I've often wondered how on earth the composers (?programmers) of these
> records register the copyright on their compositions.  I don't know about US
> laws, but here in Europe you can simply copyright your music by writing down
> the music and words, sealing them into a registered letter which you mail to
> yourself, and keep unopened.  But how exactly do you set down the score
> of a rap record, which has a rhythm but no discernable/unique melody?

Is that really how you do it in England? Amazing... In Germany you register
your rights at the GEMA (BIEM, STEMRA...etc.; you have to become a member
first) by sending them the title, authors' names of lyrics/music and on which
record it is published. No notes or words.

So...coming back on this English method: If you never publish your song and
someone else happens to write something similar that would violate your rights
(happens all the time, btw) and does publish it, you can sue him, although s/he
couldn't possibly know that your song existed? This doesn't make sense to me...

Mo




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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:38:38 +0100
From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) copyrights (was: House)

Moritz R wrote:
>
> So...coming back on this English method: If you never publish your song and
> someone else happens to write something similar that would violate your rights
> (happens all the time, btw) and does publish it, you can sue him, > although s/he
> couldn't possibly know that your song existed? This doesn't make sense > to me...

It's true, Mo. And it's got nothing to do with England. I know that this
method is accepted internationally, so I guess it will work in Germany
too. Of course it's always better to register with BIEM, BUMA/STEMRA,
ASCAP or whatever.

Marco
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 Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek
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 Record Collector's Heaven
 http://members.xoom.com/Kallie/index.html
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:36:45 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Album Scanning Question(s)

>From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>

>I got a  scanner today, and have had trouble getting satisfactory =
>album-cover scans. The to images don't seem to want to knit seamlessly.


    i found it easier when scanning the LP rotated 90 degrees on the
scanner surface; in other words: put the right side of the cover (the open
side, where you slide the lp in) against the front edge of the scanner;
that side of the lp is more straight, has less bumbs etc that the bottom
seam.

    but i'm thinking on buying a little camera, of the quickam type; it
"scans" the whole lp at once, no knitting needed; the resolution is only 72
dpi, but if you plan to use the scan for your web page, you don't need
more; OR for printing it at cd size, you can resample it: the size is
scaled down, and the resolution gets up; a resolution of only 120dpi is
enough to print at 360dpi on an injet!

        Johan


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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:40:02 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Formats

>From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>

>Johan Dada Vis wrote:
>>
>>        a MiniDiscs weighs 32 grams, versus 80 gr for a cassette...

>Naaa, a Maxell XL-II weighs 40 grams, 15 g for the tape, 25 for the cassette.


    i weighed both inside their cases....

        Johan


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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:28:02 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Recommended?

>From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>

>Getting the itch for more foreign soundtracks.....whattdya think??
>
>Piero Umiliani:
>
>1. Legge Dei Gangsters
>
>2. Today's Sound
>
>3. Per 3 Milion di Dollari/Hypnos Follia De Massacro/Le Malizi de Venere



    1) Not as surprising, original and captivating as
"Svezia,Inferno e Paradiso". Lots of jazz - and not necessarely crime jazz
- -  so, only recommended for jazz lovers.

    2) As featured on "Easy tempo 3". It's an ambitious and progressive
instrumental cocktail of soul, jazz, funk, rock fusion, Latin, and Moog,
but not necessarely all together in each and every song. "Open space" is
Moog fusion, "Caretera Panamericana" is bright Latin Moog jazz,
"Goodmorning sun" is floating Moog pop, "To-day's sound" is slightly
eastern influenced rock fusion, "Free dimension" is funky jazz with frantic
conga/bongo percussion, "Truck driver" is Moog funk, "Country twon" is odd
exotic Hammond 'n marimba instro gospel-like, "Bus stop" is Hammond soul,
"Exploration" combines a folky melody with fuzz guitar, "Tropical river"
sound very much like the things Pink Floyd was doin' around the same time
(1971), "Coast to coast" is blaxploitation crime Moog funk. The title
suggests some "now" sound, but it's different from the typical "now sound"
combination of big band and rock elements. Instrumentation: Moog, Fender
piano, marimba, flute, horn section, Hammond and Lowrey organ, clavichord,
vibraphone, electric guitars, bass, double bass, percussion. * Geoff
Reader: "It's good, all instrumental Italian soundtrack stuff. Some fast
tracks some slow tracks, a bit jazzy, MELODIES oh, yes! The drum parts have
a really nice modern sound and would make great breaks, and the bass parts
on the faster tracks have that early seventies feel like some Elvis tracks
where they start at the bottom of the neck and just run and run to the top
(like EPs Polk Salad Annie). I wasn't sure for ages if it was a modern
record in a retro sleeve or an old record. Then someone pointed the '71
date out to me,  (I'd just gone 'hmmmm, Italian'  and not looked too
closely).  Personally I find it more interesting and listenable than,  say,
the erotica Italia stuff,  its a lot more consistent and coherent.

    3) "Malizie" has 2  rockin' sitar tracks, wordless vocals, uptempo
60's beat, Hammond & some kind of electronic organ. "28" is spooky cocktail
jazz, of a friendly, intimate atmosphere. "Hypnos" is more spooky than "28"
but not really dark or dissonant, still good, relatively nice melodies.

        Johan


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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:00:42 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) UL Peeves/Thrifting Report

At 04:23 PM 1/30/99 -0500, telstar wrote:
> Here's what
>editor Ken Miller had to say: "Kind of like your generic choral-and-band
>adapations of popular songs at the time, with nary a hint of ethnicity.
>Music for republicans who like songs by 'coloured' artists, but who like
>their music as over-produced and bland as a bag of flour".

Just have to say what a shock it was to read the word "ethnicity" on this
list, let alone a reference to "black vs. white" music.
I almost checked to see if the email had somehow snuck in from some other
mailing list.
If I start thinking about most of these records in that context, I'll
either die of shame or throw them all out.

But if you want to have the opposite experience, don't pass up "Good
Feelings" by the Happy Day Choir who bring a "black sensibility" - they use
the words "Negro" and "gospel" - to a batch of tunes like "California
Dreaming" and "Words" and turn "For What it's Worth" into a gospel rave-up.

I'm going to try an forget this now.

Nat



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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:04:32 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fellini, Marxists and Zombie tv

Intervista (1987) An autobiographical fantasia from Federico Fellini. Of
course you could say that about many of his films. This one is about his
filmmaking career. Bravo - Monday night, 9:00pm, 1:00am; Tuesday afternoon,
12:30pm

Let The Good Times Roll (1973) 70s vintage documentary on 50s rock 'n'
roll. Said to be loaded with good film clips. VH1 - Monday night, 9:00pm

Rapa Nui (1994) We talked about this one last summer -- a rare specimen of
latter-day Hollywood exotica exploitation, in the fine tradition of such
opuses as "Bowanga Bowanga". Surprisingly, last summer TNT showed this with
the multitudinous bared female bosoms intact. I suppose blurring all of
them out would have busted their budget. TNT - Monday night, midnight;
Tuesday afternoon, 1:00pm

Marx Brothers In A Nutshell - A documentary on the Marx Brothers. AMC -
Tuesday night, 10:00pm, 3:15am

Room Service (1938) Marx Bros, not one of their major movies, but I'm sure
Harpo gets his harp segment in. With Lucille Ball. AMC - Tuesday
night/early Wednesday, 11:45pm/5:00am

I Walked With A Zombie (1943) Cool and atmospheric zombie exotica produced
by Val Lewton and directed by Jacques Tourneur. The night scenes in the
windy cane fields are memorable. Might include a notable calypso singer,
but I'm not sure. AMC - Wednesday morning, 7:00am

There's A Girl In My Soup (1970) Peter Sellers and Goldie Hawn in a 60s
Swinging London kinda movie, even if it is a year late. Anything to note
about the score, anyone? A&E - Late Wednesday/early Thursday, 4:00am

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:42:57 -0500
From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) UL Peeves/Thrifting Report

Nat wrote:

> Just have to say what a shock it was to read the word "ethnicity" on this
> list, let alone a reference to "black vs. white" music.
> I almost checked to see if the email had somehow snuck in from some other
> mailing list.

Oh dear, it sounds like a nerve was struck.

The review was posted in response to an inquiry regarding the musical worth
of recordings by Johnny Mann & I thought it captured the essence of the
Johnny Mann Singers experience.

Johnny Mann (or Mitch Miller or James Last) foisted on the world
homogenized, soulless crap. In that way they are past generations versions
of Kenny G, Celine Dion & their ilk.

If you choose to see value in such music, please carry on.

Allan



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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:32:46 -0800
From: James G <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gator, Gas and a Gremlin

Came to the fateful conclusion that I have too many records and CD's
I've never even listened to, the result of years of thrifting, bargain
bin scouring and record swap hauls of 5, 20, or 40 items. Even listening
to one a day would take years, so i closed my eyes, reached into a
closet and pulled out:

Gator - OST to a Burt Reynolds director/star effort from his mid 70's
heyday. Positively the one of the LAST places I'd expect to hear a
sitar, but there it was, on a nice cut called "Erotica." The rest of the
music isn't bad, some funky cuts with bongos and chicken scratch guitar,
a decent Jerry Reed song, and four versions of an EZ-theme by Bobby "see
the tree how big its grown" Goldsboro(one vocal). Music by Charles
Bernstein and produced by Leroy Holmes, cover has a nice rear view
drawing of a hip-hug-her clad Lauren Hutton with lower back dimples. I
wanna see this movie !

Gas: Changing the subject to gas, CDUniverse mentions a Feb 23 release
of the OST to Susan Hayward's "I Want to Live" on Ryko, with a note that
this is a Mandel/Mulligan two on one. Wooo-hooo, both the great Johnny
Mandel score with the looooong walk to the San Quentin gas chamber
(which i have) and the Gerry Mulligan jazz version (never heard it) on
one CD ?  Ryko's site says nuthin yet.

Gremlin: HIYA KIDS HIYA HIYA!!! - If you remember Froggy Gremlin from
Andy's Gang check out this guy's website and look for the well
researched Froggy story in with some other interesting comedy related
stuff. Great scans of Froggy dolls and even Midnight the Cat.

www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/    - "The Legend of Froggy the Gremlin"


JimG  "I'll be good I will I will"
(wondering whatever happened to that "I didn't do it" kid, Bart Simpson,
the Froggy of the 90's.....)


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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:35:23 -0800 (PST)
From: d th <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sampling

Quoting from noted author Donald S.Passman:

Unles you've been living in a cave for the last ten years, you know
that every rapper on the planet samples freely from other people's
works.

As with any new practice, everyone started gropiung around looking for
what deals to make. In the early days, a lot of sampled records were
released before anyone had cleared the rights, and the artisits and
companies often had an atitude of "If they catch me, I'll make a
deal." The deals consisted mainly of throwing around a few bucks and
buying out the rights.

The record company that owns the sampled recording isn't the only one
that needs to be looked after, but also the publisher.

Un-authorized sampling is not only a breach of civil law, it's also a
criminal offense.\

At any rate, consult the book "All You Need To Know About The Music
Business", by Donald S. Passman, pages 296-297. It explicitly states
what is and what isn't pemissible in sampling, and the penalties
involved.

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:07:03 -0500
From: "Vito Cortese" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Introduction, Mitch Miller, and Inquiry

Greetings to all on the list.

First of all an intro:

Name:  Vito Cortese
Age:  Old enough not to be trusted, young enough to not remember
JFK.
Occupation:  Keeping Exotica alive in Pittsburgh PA (much to the
dismay of most of my friends).

My intro to exotica came in the early '70's from my father's vinyl
collection which included (along with the Sinatra and Brubeck)
Denny (Quiet Village / A Taste of Honey), Herb Alpert (The Lonely
Bull), and "The Exotic Sounds of Edmundo Ros".

Of course, what really set me off was the double-whammy of
getting hooked on the background music from Ren & Stimpy
cartoons (Powerhouse et al.) and following a someone's
recommendation to look into Esquivel (Space-Age Bachelor Pad).

My musical tastes run the gamut, but somehow nothing beats a
good organ version of Caravan (love the Buzon version on UL and
one by Sir Julian that I just heard on NetRadio).

Secondly, re: Mitch Miller:

I don't now if anyone pointed it out, but I seem to recall that Mitch
Miller was a clarinet or sax player in Paul Whiteman's band, who
was responsible for commissioning and debuting George
Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue back in 1924.  I know Miller made
some recordings of Gershwin music which are considered by some
to be fairly authentic representations of the composer's intent.

Lastly, an UL question:

Can anyone tell me about the undocumented spoken word/organ
pieces which close out many of the UL discs.  My linquist's ear is
unable to place the accent (either Spanish or French).  I have heard
at least one of them on NetRadio (which lists it as Sax Con Ritmo
by Jack Constanzo and a name which escapes me), but I thought
this was suspect since there didn't seem to be any reed
involvement in the piece.

Thanks for your time,
[e-mail]

PS:  The above-mentioned vinyl collection also includes two of the
notorious Sing-Along-With-Mitch albums in both Christmas and
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:26:40 +0000
From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Album Scanning Question(s)

Johan wrote:
>but i'm thinking on buying a little camera, of the quickam type; it
>"scans" the whole lp at once, no knitting needed; the resolution is only 72
>dpi, but if you plan to use the scan for your web page, you don't need
>more

I will be interested to see how Johan gets on.  I have a digital still camera,
but it is very difficult to get good results capturing LP sleeves.  If you use
the built in flash, then you get a lot of  flare: if you don't, it's hard
to get
the colours right.  Ideally, capturing images out of doors on a bright day
might be the best bet.  I find it also quite hard to keep the lens of the
camera pointing exactly at the center of the image, so that all four corners
are sharp.  In the end, I went back to using a Logitech hand held scanner.
Harder work, but better results in the long run.

Camera tips warmly invited.

Hugh.


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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:55:17 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) UL Peeves/Thrifting Report

At 02:42 PM 1/31/99 -0500, telstar wrote:

>Johnny Mann (or Mitch Miller or James Last) foisted on the world
>homogenized, soulless crap. In that way they are past generations versions
>of Kenny G, Celine Dion & their ilk.

It's not quite that simple.

But if you choose to see it that way, carry on.

Nat



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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 98 06:31:10 PST
From: "Jill Mingo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris "Sacrebleu" French <-> US version

>
> It all depends on the DJ. I'm sure there are several people on the list=
 who
> also mix in "easy" stuff with new electronic music. It is just that som=
e of
> the new electronic music is a lot closer in style and feel the main ben=
t of
> the music discussed in this forum than others. A perfect example is the=
 new
> 2CD David Holmes "Essential Mix." Here is an artist whose "Let's Get =
Killed"
> album does include some referances to John Barry, and has an overall =
groovy,
> soul feel to his music, but the msuic is definitley electronic rather =
than
> soul or rock. Yet for his "Essential Mix" Cd DJ set includes only  4 =
out of
> close to 30 tracks recorded after 1994. The rest of the set includes =
Percy
> Faith, Rare Earth, Bridgete Bardot, and other cool obscurities.

Well, this is all a very interesting discussion. I work in the dance indu=
stry as does a few others on this list. I know that Holmes got into this =
stuff from the beats bootlegs. You only have to check out his charts from=
 about 3 years ago when he was charting the "Dirty Harry" soundtrack, whi=
ch didn't actually exist and listing it as a "white" label. I know Holmes=
 and his interest is genuine, but I have friends that have been DJing in =
this style for a good 8 years, have all the originals and can give Holmes=
 a run for his money. And considering that a year ago, he was one of the =
more bangin' techno DJs around (not bad either), his current flavour is =
a bit of a reinvention of what he was known for but he's bringing this =
music to a whole new crowd. Which can only be a good thing for us DJs who=
 have been into it and plugging it longer. Getting us a bit more respect.

As for Dimitri. He plays house. Nothing too amazing although he has momen=
ts of greatness. Very nice guy. I think most of his music productions are=
 very tasty - even the stuff he's done that isn't on the LP and is house.=
 I really can't wait for his next LP. Sacrebleu is a bit of a the same =
tricks over and over, but it's a good sound. He's also much sexier than =
his photos....grrrrrrrr!

x Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:09:28 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Casino Royale

In a message dated 99-01-18 11:58:26 EST, you write:

<< Which movie is this a soundtrack for?  The spoofy one?

 Am I correct in surmising this is not a Broccoli production?

To add to Mr. Brooks great commentary on this: there does exist a TV
production of Casino Royale from 1954, which is available from Critic's
Choice Video http://www.ccvideo.com starring Barry Nelson and Peter Lorre.
Has anyone seen this?  It would make this the very first James Bond production.

Brian "Mr. Moneypenny" Phillips



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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:48:41 +0000
From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Casino Royale

> To add to Mr. Brooks great commentary on this: there does exist a TV
> production of Casino Royale from 1954, which is available from
> Critic's Choice Video http://www.ccvideo.com starring Barry Nelson
> and Peter Lorre. Has anyone seen this?

TNT or TBS (I forget which) ran it a few years ago in one of their
periodic Bond-fests.  Seems to have been done originally as a live
telecast.  Barry Nelson made for a pretty young-looking James Bond
and, as I recall, it was surprisingly violent for a mid-50s TV
production.

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:03:08 GMT
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mirageman

Jack writes:

> I totally disagree about the (both) Mirageman releases
> I think they are both pretty much throwaways and thank goodness 1 of the
> distributors here that I buy and sell to and from took all that I had from
> me.  You too could have gotten them from me for 8 or 9 bucks each, had you
> brought them up in conversation earlier
>
> Mebbie next time
>
> TO-DAY'S SOUND RULES!


What a strange person.

Anyway, I got them for less than that. So "ner ner ner ner ner".



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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:14:31 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas' Chariots Of The Gods

Can anyone give me recommendations on this one?  I have one track from
it on the "Futuremuzik" compilation, but am wondering if the "Chariots
of the Gods" CD itself is worth getting.

thanks,

cheryl


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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:17:30 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) More tv listings for this week

For those of you who get the Showcase channel (probably just us
Canadians), they are showing "Camille 2000" this Wednesday (Thursday
morning, actually) at 12:20 and 2:50 am.  Soundtrack by Piero Piccioni,
for all those fans of 60s Italian exotica.

cheryl


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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:12:54 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) AP: Online Auction Customers Beware

    NEW YORK (AP) -- When Sotheby's sold a Harry S. Truman signature that
turned out to be a reproduction, the prestigious auction house apologized
and bought it back.
    On the explosive frontier of Internet auctions, the policy is different:
bidder beware.
    Toy collector Christina Platthy says she found out too late -- after paying
$1,815 for a rare Beanie Baby she bought in an eBay Web site auction and
getting a $5 stuffed duck instead.
    The rapid, raucous popularity of Internet auction houses has left consumers
prey to cyber-scams and emerging companies like eBay struggling to prevent a
new kind of fraud.
    The company, founded in 1995 by Pierre Omidyar in San Jose, Calif. to sell
his girlfriend's Pez dispensers, is the most famous of the online
auctioneers, but it has no less than 1,500 rivals.
    Auction houses say they can't be forced to protect consumers against bogus
buys, any more than a newspaper can be held responsible for the claims of
its classified advertisers.
    ``I think from a legal point of view we have no liability,'' said eBay CEO
Meg Whitman. However, she added, ``We actually have a significant
responsibility to make eBay as safe a site as possible to trade on. We also
need to communicate that users have a responsibility as well.''
    Whitman says fraud is exceptionally rare among its 1 million users -- less
than 1/100th of 1 percent of its 700,000 daily auctions.
    But, many users report their problems elsewhere. The National Consumers
League gets 600 complaints a month about Internet fraud. Two out of three
are auction fraud cases.
    As the largest auction house, eBay has had its share of mishaps.
Pennsylvanian Jamison Piatt was turned in by angry buyers who never got the
Furby toys he promised. He's agreed to repay them $3,600.
    Bidders aren't always honest either. Some offered up to $200,000 for a
``Today'' show jacket signed by host Katie Couric. After bogus bids were
ferreted out, the jacket sold for $11,400. Starting next month, deadbeat
bidders will be suspended from eBay.
    The problems may stem in part from the industry's stratospheric growth.
    Market researcher Jupiter Communications estimates that the number of
Internet auction customers will jump nearly sixfold from 1.2 million to 6.5
million by 2000, when they will spend about $7.1 billion. For eBay, sales
grew 724 percent in 1998, to $47.4 million.
    As the industry grows, so does fraud. Cyber-scams are prevalent enough that
Manhattan attorney Brian Brokate has a full-time staff tracking online
knockoffs of luxury goods made by clients such as Rolex and Vuitton.
    New York City is trying to hold online auction houses accountable. The
city's Department of Consumer Affairs said last week it is looking into
whether some eBay sellers are falsely labeling baseballs supposedly signed
by such legends as Babe Ruth and Roberto Clemente, as ``one-of-a-kind.''
    Ms. Whitman says eBay's glad to cooperate, even though the city hasn't
notified eBay of the probe.
    In an acknowledgment that fraud is a problem, eBay said earlier this month
it would guarantee items from $25 to $200.
    That doesn't help high bidders like Ms. Platthy.
    She says she paid for a rare ``Quackers'' Beanie manufactured without
wings, but got a cheaper version with the wings obviously cut off. Seller
Mark R. Mills of Las Vegas, who was ejected from eBay last year, responds:
``She got what she paid for.''
    Ms. Platthy wants New York officials to force eBay to vouch for its sellers.
    ``I'm glad that they're trying to crack down on them,'' she said, adding
that Mills didn't give her his real name. ``The person I was dealing with
did not exist. That's what irritates me about eBay. They don't check
anything.''
    The best way for auction house customers to protect themselves is to use an
escrow service that will hold onto their check until the auctioned item is
received in good condition, said eBay's Ms. Whitman. The company makes that
easy by offering online links to escrow companies. The catch: a 5 percent fee.
    ``Eighteen-hundred dollars is a lot of money and using escrow is probably a
pretty smart thing to do when you are dealing with that kind of money,'' Ms.
Whitman said.
    Brokate concedes that online auctioneers probably can't be held legally
responsible unless they're informed of a specific fraud and refuse to act.
He said eBay has been quick to help so far.
    Two traditional auction houses could shake up the industry with their plans
to go online later this year.
    Sotheby's says its items will be guaranteed and its rival Christie's is
expected to follow suit.
    ``We believe that a collector ... needs to have the assurance that experts
have properly assessed what is being sold and that that item is being
guaranteed,'' said David Redden, executive vice president of Sotheby's.




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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:12:41 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Huntz Hall + 4 obits

                          *Robert L. Duncan
    NORMAN, Okla. (AP) -- Author Robert L. Duncan, who wrote ``Brimstone,''
``Firestorm'' and ``Dragons at the Gate,'' died Thursday of pneumonia. He
was 71.
    He wrote documentaries, television scripts, a screenplay and more than two
dozen novels during his 50-year career.
    Duncan and his wife, Wanda, wrote scripts for shows such as ``Dr.
Kildare,'' ``Bonanza,'' and ``Have Gun Will Travel.''
    He was inducted into the Oklahoma Writers Hall of Fame in 1981.

                          *Sara Wells Jones
    SEATTLE (AP) -- Sara Wells Jones, founder of the Seattle Religious Art
Society and mother of musician and record producer Quincy Jones, died Jan.
22 of a stroke. She was 94.
    Mrs. Jones became a founding board member of the Federal Savings and Loan
Corp., a black-owned bank, in Chicago in the 1930s. She managed the 433-unit
Rosenwald Housing Complex.
    She moved to Seattle in 1943 and founded the society to sponsor concerts
and educational opportunities for children. On one occasion she typed the
entire New Testament as a gift to her children.

                        *Raymond E. Watson Jr.
    TRENTON, Texas (AP) -- Actor Raymond E. ``Woody'' Watson Jr., who appeared
in dozens of films and television movies and was the voice of Texas Lottery
commercials, died Wednesday in a tractor accident. He was 50.
    Investigators said Watson died after he was run over by a rear wheel of his
tractor. The accident happened on his farm, about 50 miles northeast of Dallas.
    Watson appeared in about 20 films, including ``Evening Star,'' ``Powder,''
``A Perfect World'' and ``Backroads.''
    He also appeared in more than two dozen television series and movies,
including ``Walker, Texas Ranger,'' ``Texas,'' and ``Dallas.''
    Last year, Watson provided the voice for Texas Lottery commercials.
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                       *Mario Zacchini
    TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Mario Zacchini, the ``human cannonball'' who
entertained circus-goers for decades, died Thursday of kidney failure. He
was 87.
    Zacchini's death marked the end of an era. He was the oldest member of a
Tampa circus family, the last of seven brothers -- five of whom were known
as human cannonballs.
    In their heyday in the 1920s, '30s and '40s, the Zacchini brothers wowed
crowds as they catapulted out of cannons at speeds up to 90 mph, flying over
Ferris wheels.
    They performed at world fairs, circuses and carnivals in the United States
and abroad.
    Eight years ago, the family was inducted into Ringling Brothers and Barnum
& Bailey's Circus Ring of Fame in Sarasota.
    Their father, Ildebrando, who started as a circus clown, suggested the
human cannonball act in the 1920s in Italy. The brothers built a cannon and
work began.
    In 1929, while in Denmark traveling with their father's circus, the
Zacchini Brothers Circus, John Ringling hired one brother to work in
Florida. Within a few years, the others joined him. In 1939, the family
moved to Tampa.

 *Huntz Hall
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Huntz Hall, star of more than 100 ``Bowery Boys'' and
``Dead End Kids'' films in the 1930s through the 1950s, died Saturday of
heart failure. He was 78.
    Hall was one of a group of young actors who came to Hollywood to make a
film version of the Sidney Kingsley play ``Dead End'' in 1937, two years
after he starred in the play on Broadway.
    The film spawned a popular phenomenon that stretched over two decades, with
the actors portraying the characters as victims of society in a series of
films with both original and new actors.
    The group went on to make several films for Warner Bros., including
``Angels with Dirty Faces,'' ``They Made Me a Criminal'' and ``Crime
School'' with names like James Cagney, Humphrey Bogart and John Garfield.
    The actors moved to Universal and changed their name to ``The East Side
Kids'' in the 1940s. Hall and original costar Leo Gorcey made 49 comedy
films as ``The Bowery Boys'' after World War II.
    Hall later appeared in the films ``A Walk in the Sun'' in 1945, ``Gentle
Giant'' in 1967, ``Herbie Rides Again'' in 1974 and ``The Escape Artist'' in
1982. He starred as producer Jesse Laske in Ken Russel's ``Valentino'' in 1977.
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:15:21 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dave Pell

Charlie-Man,

"Jazz Voices in Video" are group vocals done up cool, groovy and right!
The solo's of the music is much like jazz pop, like Bob Thompson on RCA,
Or as many call it, Space Age Pop, that HUGE GENRE of soooooooooo many
different sounds:-)

Oh Calcutta is on the "Man Ha Man Ha" rekkid and for me, though a great few
tracks, it just doesn't measure up to Jazz Voices in Video.

Hope this helps!

Jack


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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:28:32 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moog Fluting on EBay

"Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Ebony Godfather

Does anybody on the list know Moog Fluting by The Ebony Godfather?

Care to recommend/dis it?

Charlie-Man,

That guy is in for the ride of his life, NO, not the guy who bought it,
the guy WHO SOLD IT, which by the way is Saturn Records in Oakland, CA

He totally misrepresented that LP.  There is NO MOOG on it whatsoever.
He titled the LP, "CRAZY MOOG BLAXPLOITATION"

No Moog, No Crazy, No Blaxploitation.  Zip, nada, nothin', ZERO

Funny thing is, is that I saw and held that rekkid in my hands at a store
in San Jose, CA and looked at it and tried to feel the energy in it, walked
around with it for over an hour and then put it back in the bins.

With a title like "The Ebony Godfather", it sure looked like CRAZY MOOG
BLAXPLOITATION, but that's all it had to do with that, is lookin' like it.

REALLY GLAD I didn't buy it even at the cheap 5 bucks it was.
(OOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!)

Next day I called the store for them to find it for me 'cause
I HADDA HAVE IT! and it was GONE DADDY GONE!

AND UP ON E-BAY WITH A BID OF $51.00!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I was "upset" needless to say...BUT THEN, I spoke with someone who I know
that bid $52! on the damn thing and told him I wanted to know what it
sounded like and he told me he already listened to it atta friends house
and he gave me the lowdown on the hoedown.

Obviously, Saturn didn't listen to it at all and I do mean AT ALL!

Bummer, dude.  It's important to know your product, is what I always say.




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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:33:20 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Esquivel's So in Love

It might be on his Living Strings-Inna Mellow Mood LP (RCA/Camden
Cleve has that 1, he'd know if it was

It's not on the others that have been released you mentioned, or I COULD be
wrong, but that's just me!;^)

JD


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