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exotica-digest        Thursday, January 7 1999        Volume 02 : Number 283



In This Digest:

(exotica) Willie Bobo
(exotica) Mondo Macabro
(exotica) The future is NOW!
Re: (exotica) correction 8-bit characters + addendum "Beatsville"
Re: (exotica) Ruggolo vs. Hopkins
Re: (exotica) Rugolo
(exotica) Henry Jerome and Phantom
(exotica) New Reviews @ Multi-Directions
(exotica) Pete Rugolo ..Outer Space
(exotica) Re:  Henry Jerome
Re: (exotica) Henry Jerome
Re: (exotica) Rugolo
(exotica) Re: Willie Bobo?
(exotica) Petey, Cleve, Jon and Annie
[Br. Cleve: Re: (exotica) Hugh=Lemmy!]
[m.ace: Re: (exotica) Twangful Ventures / Sunset Records]
(exotica) Dave Garland
(exotica) Re: Collecting Crap Records
(exotica) Exotic Shakespeare (was: hyman rules, redux)
(exotica) Re: I'm gonna DO it!
Re: (exotica) Re: I'm gonna DO it!
Re: (exotica) Re: Collecting Crap Records/Internet Selling
Re: (exotica) Petey, Cleve, Jon and Annie
[m h jemmeson: (exotica) Re: Collecting Crap Records]
(exotica) Petey, Cleve, Jon and Annie
(exotica) Upcoming releases of note
(exotica) Re: you can copy CDR to CDR
(exotica) Re: I'm gonna do it.
(exotica) Re:HOTLanta!

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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:22:23 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Willie Bobo

>Who the heck is Willie Bobo?


W.Bobo is one of the prime movers of the latin soul/boogaloo wave that
bridged the gap between Mambo and modern-day salsa.

Willie apprenticed under the legendary Mongo Santamaria while Mongo was in
Machito's Afro-Cubans.Although he played congas, bongos and traps, mista
Bobo is best known for his Timbale playing.he played with Tito Puente, Mary
Lou Williams,Mongo (WB's on Mongo's excellent "Our Man In Havana" among
others), George Shearing and Cal Tjader and later formed his own
groups,notable for their lack of a piano.

"It's Not Unusual"is from his breakthrough LP, "Spanish Grease"(highly
recommended...Herbie Mann did a good cover of the title tune featuring
Willie Bobo on Timbales!)Weirdly enough, the drummer on that track and the
"Spanish Grease" LP is the renowned New Orleans Gospel/R&B drummer,Melvin
Lastie.Another good rekkid is "Uno Dos Tres".

If you dig Latin Music check out Steve Sando's "Mr. Lucky" zine.
http://www.mrlucky.com

Oye!

El Millionario




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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:16:24 -0800
From: Nocturnal Love Feast <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mondo Macabro

Hi--Joe Gore here...

I've been obsessing over the new Pete Tombs book, *Mondo Macabro*. He's the
British film geek who previously co-authored *Immoral Tales*, the
definitive work on Euro-sleaze cinema. The new tome has what I regard as
the best stuff yet on Hong Kong cinema (mainly 'cause he seems to agree
with me about everything <g>), plus chapters on outr=E9 crap from Turkey, th=
e
Phillipines, Indonesia, and so on. I heartily recommend both titles for
those who are into this kind of stuff. (You know who you are!)

Anyway, my question: I watched *Lake of Dracula* the other night (a.k.a.
*Bloodthirsty Eyes*), a Japanese vampire opus from '71. Utterly amazing
score, of the same stripe as a lot of concurrent Italian horror stuff, but
far weirder and cooler than most. Seems to me I saw an import CD of this
soundtrack somewhere, but my online searches can only uncover Lake of
Dracula, a goth/metal band who are clearly inspired by the right sources,
but who unfortunately aren't much to listen to. Can anyone help? Or suggest
a good source in general for Japanese import stuff? Or just type something
diverting about Asian cult film music?

Thanks,

Joe (whose most expensive record splurge ever was at Tokyo's 7-floor
Shibuya Tower Records)




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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:11:00 -0800
From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The future is NOW!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/01/03/PK104147.DTL

Go here

Jack




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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:10:35 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) correction 8-bit characters + addendum "Beatsville"

At 08:06 PM 1/6/99 +0100, Johan Dada Vis wrote:
>
>"The Beat generation" by Bob McFadden & Dor... yes, McKuen = McFadden; and
>another bonus track ("If I could fly") gives you an embarrassing SINGING
>McKuen.

I love the way Rod sings.

Can't explain it.

Nat



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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:10:30 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ruggolo vs. Hopkins

At 11:50 AM 1/6/99 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>How is Pete Ruggolo these days, anyone know?  BTW, anyone out there have
>PETE RUGGOLO IN SPACE?  Isn't that just another record with a nice bubble
>helmet pic but no space music?

I have four Pete Rugolo records besides "Richard Diamond".
"New Sounds", "Reeds in Hi Fi", "Ten Trumpets and two Guitars" and "Ten
Saxophones and two Basses".

On the other hand, I have three Kenyon Hopkins records besides "Mr. Buddwing".

Based on this unscientific survey, I conclude that one should get much more
excited about seeing a Kenyon Hopkins record than seeing a Pete Rugolo
record unless you know that on Pete's record, he was TRYING for a certain
sound that you love.

I keep the four "other" Rugolo records because they have good sound and
neat packaging and they represent a genre that I like to have a few
examples of.  But with the possible exception of "Reeds in hi fi" none of
them are something I would go out of my way to recommend.
The first cut on "Reeds", a number called "Igor Beaver" starts out like
crime jazz and has a bit of that feel.
ALL his stuff has a bit of that feel.  This is where crime jazz was
created.  These are the musicians and the studios and the time and the place.

I don't DJ so the concept of a cut that I would "play out" doesn't really
relate to me.  But I think maybe I listen to records in a similar way.  I'm
looking for cuts that have a lot of things going for them and in overt -
not subtle - ways.

And maybe I'm overusing the term "crime jazz".

But I look for stuff with swing and drama and overt arrangements and
extreme dynamics, all in a jazz-based package.  And all with a feel of guys
being chased down dark alleys or cool cats and cool chicks doing cool
things in cool cars.

Pete Rugolo is capable of doing that but from the records I've heard, that
doesn't seem to be what he's going for.

On the other hand, I find that even when Kenyon Hopkins is doing a record
about riding on trains or travelling through Italy, his stuff always pushes
the envelope and brings in that cool cats/ dark alleys/ "smell of death" feel.

Someone could probably do a more sophisticated musical treatise on the
difference between "crime jazz" and the standard jazz-based arranging that
it emerged from.

All I'm saying is don't get too excited about Rugolo unless it's a
soundtrack and you know that he was overtly going for that cool sound you
love.

But Kenyon... whoo hoo!  He could have made Puff the Magic Dragon seem lethal.

Nat



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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:10:33 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Rugolo

At 11:50 AM 1/6/99 +0000, Darrell Brogdon wrote:
>
>> How is Pete Ruggolo these days, anyone know?
>
>To the best of my knowledge, Pete Rugolo is alive and well.  He did
>the music for a film last year, "This World, Then the Fireworks".
>Haven't seen the film (got bad reviews) but the soundtrack's
>available on Varese Sarabande.  It's vintage Rugolo.  Recommended!

As reported here earlier in the year, it's not a great film but it might be
worth seeing if you're a Jim Thompson fan and you want to see how his books
translate to film, however unsuccessfully.
It is certainly worth renting though for the soundtrack which is a classic
"re-creation" of that late fifties crime-jazz thing.  In keeping with
another Rugolo post today, I wouldn't call it "vintage Rugolo" but I would
call it "vintage Rugolo crime jazz".

Nat



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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:10:07 -0500
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Henry Jerome and Phantom

> It's a really funny record.  You know, most demo records do the stereo
> thing...
> THIS IS THE LEFT CHANNEL!
>                                                             THIS IS THE
> RIGHT CHANNEL!
>
> etc.etc.
> This one is classic, because they harp on Admirals PHANTOM THIRD CHANNEL!
>
> It's the Center!
>
I got this one, or one of these.  I like it, but it gets annoying with this
narrator interrupting the tunes.  At least they didn't werch the Lenny Dee
tracks!

srufing the chaos,
Charlieman


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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:27:12 -0700
From: "Mark Conklin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Reviews @ Multi-Directions

Some new reviews are online at Multi-Directions. Read and enjoy at
Multi-Directions:

http://www.idcomm.com/personal/mconklin/

Newest Reviews:

*Ballistic Brothers - Rude System (Soundboy)
*Donald Byrd - Places & Spaces (Blue Note)
*Donald Byrd - Up! (Verve)
*Fila Brazillia - Power Clown (Pork)
*Fila Brazillia - Sycot Motion EP (Mindfood)
*Galaxy - Angel (Blue Room)
*Gazzara - One (Irma)
*Grant Green - His Majesty King Funk (Verve)
*Herbie Hancock - Mwandishi: The Complete Warner Bros. Recordings (Warner
Bros.)
*Herbie Hancock - Thrust (Columbia)
*Charlie Hunter Trio (Mammoth)
*Charlie Hunter - Bing, Bing, Bing (Blue Note)
*The JBs - Funky Good Time Anthology (Polydor)
*Jhelisa - Language Electric (Dorado)
*Kruder & Dorfmeister - The K&D Sessions (!K7)
*Maceo & All The Kings Men - Doing Their Own Thing' (Charly UK)
*Herbie Mann - Flautista! Plays Afro-Cuban Jazz (Verve)
*Jimmy McGriff - Electric Funk (Blue Note)
*Outside - Suspicious (Dorado)
*John Patton - Accent On The Blues (Blue Note)
*John Patton - Let 'Em Roll (Blue Note)
*Pizzicato Five - A Quiet Couple (Sony Japan)
*Pizzicato Five - Expo 2001 (Triad)
*Red Snapper - Loopascoopa (Warp)
*Jimmy Smith - Got My Mojo Workin' (Verve)
*Jimmy Smith - Hoochie Coochie Man' (Verve)
*Slide Five - Rhode Trip (Ubiquity)
*Spiritual Vibes - Before The Words (Idyllic)
*Tipsy - Trip Tease (Asphodel)
*Cal Tjader & Charlie Byrd - Tambu (OJC/Fantasy)
*Tosca - Opera (Studio !K7/G-Stoned)
*Visit Venus - Magic Fly Variations (Yo Mama)
*Soundtrack: The Mack (Motown)
*V/A: Freezone 4: Dangerous Lullabies (SSR/Crammed)
*V/A: Heading In The Right Direction (Luv N' Haight)
*V/A: Mushroom Jazz 2 (OM Records)
*V/A: OM Lounge (OM Records)

Multi-Directions specializes in Acid Jazz, Ambient, Funk, IDM, Jazz, Latin,
Lounge and Lounge reviews.

If you purchase CDs and Vinyl from individuals online, you may find the Good
Traders Lists useful.

Please support Multi-Directions and other small, independent web pages. . .

Thanks.

MC



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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:27:53 -0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Pete Rugolo ..Outer Space

>Yes indeed it is. And speaking of, can anyone offer a few words
>regarding PR's Music from Outer Space?


Very dull,  I was given it and then gave it away.


El Maestro Con Queso

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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 06:00:14
From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Henry Jerome

>Who was Henry Jerome?

from http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/jerome.htm:


      The "Brazen Brass" man. Jerome started as a bandleader in high
school, and
      went to work full-time with a cadre of his classmates after
graduation. From the
      mid-1930s through the end of the 1940s, Jerome ran the band in some form
      continuously, working steamships, hotels, and circuits. In its
various guises, the
      Jerome band was a "sweet" band, specializing in light ballads and
moderate
      tempos. After breaking up the band, Jerome went into record
producing, and
      ended up forming a new studio band to release a series of LPs for
Decca under
      the moniker of "Brazen Brass." While Jerome was probably inspired by the
      success of Billy May's "Big Fat Brass" album and sound, he deserves
credit at least
      for dumping the sweet sound for something bold, splashy, and, well,
brazen.
      Jerome produced and conducted 5 Brazen Brass albums for Decca, as
well as two
      more conventional sweet albums, until he left to become an A&R man
for Coral in
      1959. He released one more "brazen" style album in the early 1960s,
for United
      Artists.

I need to add a couple things to this.  For one, Jerome formed a band with
some classmates from Yale that played in NYC during the bebop era and that
included now-chairman of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, on saxophone.
 They played bebop, but Jerome switched to softer stuff when he realized
the bucks just weren't there.

Brad


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:43:34 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Henry Jerome

At 01:39 PM 1/6/99 -0500, Peter Risser wrote:
>
>It's got a Decca label on it.  Anyone know of any good or bad records by
>him?  Who was he?

He was the guy who did the BRAZEN BRASS records.

I have three.  "BB goes Hollywood", "BB zings the strings" and "BB goes
Latin" and I would recommend all three as "Grade B" heavy duty,
well-arranged, big band, very stereo lounge records.  I would pick up
anything I saw by the Brazen Brass.  I guess of those three I'm most
partial to "zing the strings" but that's also because it has a particularly
cool graphic on the cover.

As far as who he was, there's no information on the back of the records but
I just assume he was one more of the working arrangers or producers like
Marty Gold or Sonny Lester or Henri Rene who I had also never heard of
before I started buying this kind of record.

Nat



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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:58:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Rugolo

My two cents re: Pete Rugolo and a warning:
I am very much of a fan of Pete Rugolo, his solo records which have all been
mentioned, and the fantastic stuff he did with Stan Kenton.  (He was one of
Stan's main arrangers and writers for many years).

I would highly recommend, to anyone on this list who has not heard it, the
recent 2 CD set Stan Kenton - THe Innovations Orchestra.  It is from the early
50's and has great compositions not only by Stan and Pete, but also by Neal
Hefti, Shelly Manne, and Laurindo Almedia.   THis is not crime jazz, but is
some of the strangest big band jazz ever -- especially the tunes by Bob
Graettinger.

However, I would not recommend the new "This World, Then the Fireworks" Rugolo
soundtrack.  Certainly there are some great moments, but to my ear there is
not a single track on this disc that is great all the way thru, and some of
them are downright dull.  I was very excited when this came out, and it was
great to see Pete working again, but I think to many this CD might be a
disappointment.

Best wishes,
Larry

> "This World, Then the Fireworks".


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:10:16 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Willie Bobo?

Peter Risser asked "Who the heck is Willie Bobo?"

Well...

Willie Bobo was a fantastic Latin percussionist, who played with
[among many others] Perez Prado, Tito Puente, Cal Tjader, Herbie
Mann, Miles Davis, Cannonball Adderley, Herbie Hancock, Wes Montgomery,
and Mongo Santamaria. His combination of Latin and soul music
was a major influence on Carlos Santana.


There are currently three Willie Bobo CDs in print, all on the
Verve label:

TALKIN' VERVE - A "best-of" collection, and an excellent one
at that. WB's version of "Grazin' in the Grass" is a Latin groove
classic. Other faves from this collection: "Evil Ways," "Mercy,
Mercy, Mercy" and "Fried Neckbones and Some Home Fries." I've
bought this disc 5 or 6 times to give as gifts, and it's always
a hit. Perfect music for knocking the winter chill out of the
house.

UNO, DOS, TRES/SPANISH GREASE - Two LPs (1965 & 1966) on one
CD. Also very enjoyable, although for my money there are too
many covers of early-60s pop hits ("It's Not Unusual," "Our Day
Will Come," "Goin' Out  Of My Head," "Hurt So Bad," etc.).

JUICY - Twelve tunes cut in 1967, plus 4 alternate takes that
didn't appear on the original LP. Of particular interest to readers
of this list are Bobo's versions of "Music To Watch Girls By"
and "Disadvantages" (the theme from the old Benson & Hedges cigarette
commercials). The one to get after TALKIN' VERVE.

**************************************

Some selections from UNO, DOS, TRES/SPANISH GREASE and JUICY
are duplicated on TALKIN' VERVE, but I'm still glad to own all
three.

      Wayno


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:27:20 -0500
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Petey, Cleve, Jon and Annie

OK, Cleve, WHAT'S WRONG WITH PETEY WHEATSTRAW!  I mean, it ain't no
AVENGING DISCO GODFATHER, but to slam against this piece of cineman!  Ha!!
;^<>

So, my weary eyes are suddenly brightened this morning by the news that Jon
Hendrix and Annie Ross are singing together tonight through Saturday here
in Boston!  WHAT!?!?  Forget impeachment, this is big news!
Anyway...I want to know from you all around the world, if these cats can
still swing/sing well?  Annie, while quite frigginhilarious in SHORT CUTS,
uh, didn't sound like the wailin' mama I once loved..of course, that was
her role in that film...
I have just too many times been bitterly disappointed by seeing folks from
the 40s-60 who were great then, BOMB live in the 80s and 90s.  I don't want
my illusions of these unearthly singers shattered.  And if they have some
combo of jazzbo geeks backing them with those goofy stick basses and
headphones, I'll really wanna buy it then...
Ah, decisions....
HELP!
Gratefully,
Jane Fondle
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:31:15 GMT
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Br. Cleve: Re: (exotica) Hugh=Lemmy!]

>
>
> At 10:56 AM -0500 12/30/98, <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Jimmy Page, as he was a studio string player in the 60s, and I
> >believe, plays violin on Tom Jones' "It's Not Unusual."
>
> actually, he's the lead guitarist on that. Go listen to that solo!
>

If I remember rightly, although JP plays guitar on that track, the
solo may well be by Big Jim Sullivan. JP did a hell of a lot of
session work and it's not known which records he's actually on, and
what he contributed. There was a big article on Page's session work in
Record Collector a couple of months ago. Please shoot this anorak.



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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:45:27 GMT
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [m.ace: Re: (exotica) Twangful Ventures / Sunset Records]

> Another thing to remember, Ventures-wise, is that they began to make heavy
> use of studio musicians as the 60s rolled on. And somewhere along the line
> (70s?) they only produced and let the studio cats do all of the playing.
> I'm not saying this is bad -- just another aspect of the Ventures experience.
>
> Does anyone have the story on Sunset Records? I got my Bonzo Dog Band
> albums on there, mid-70s issue, British imports. "A Product of Liberty/UA
> Records Ltd. London, England," sez the fine print. It seems like it was a
> budget re-issue label -- very flimsy covers, and the back cover features
> listings of other albums, like...
>

> World Ballroom Orchestra "Strict Tempo Hits" (interesting concept)

Quite a few "strict tempo" albums feature then-modern covers, but this
usually implies horrific stodge. And don't even ASK about Victor
Silvester's version of "Two Little Boys". However, the World Ballroom
Orchestra is arranged by Alan Moorhouse in a swinging manner (I
suppose conforming to the category of the "now" sound, though I still
haven't figured out what this is supposed to imply/cover or where the
term comes from) and the two albums I have also have a couple of
groovy originals. This is one of the few of this type worth picking
up.

IMHO, the best Moorhouse track is his version of "Mrs. Robinson" from
the big-band ballroom album on Telefunken's "Gold Star" series.

>
> So does anyone have the word on Sunset Records? Sounds like a one-company
> thrift shop supplier.
>

There's a really weird mixture of stuff on Sunset. For example, I have
"Basie Meets Bond", "Gorilla" by the Bonzos, "Phallus Dei" by Amon
Duul 2 and an album by Sauter-Finnegan, among others.



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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:04:08 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dave Garland

Anyone know what NY radio station Dave Garland works at ?


Lou ?


Please e-mail me direct and thanks


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:06:22 +0000
From: m h jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Collecting Crap Records

>
> Collecting Crap Records
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/plasterboard_towers/crmain.htm
>

This is *so* true. Now you lot over the Atlantic can see the sort of
things in our record collections, and why there's so few of those huge
score lists posted by us in the UK.

The author's a bit optimistic on the pricing though.  50p gets you very
little in a lot of charity shops these days, most have their prices at 1
pound per record now, and one offender (Shelter in Newcastle) has the
cheek to charge 2 quid for everything, and the most exciting ones there
were Bravo Brasso and a bad Klaus Wunderlich.  Plus in another I saw
'The Fabulous Shirley Bassey' and 'Peters and Lee' for 3.50 each.(!!!!)
I'd feel bad arguing but is anyone else having these problems? it seems
to me that they've held this opinion that all old records must be
valuable for about the past 3 years now, and now the furniture, books,
clothes etc are all following.

Record collecting for me at the moment has almost been reduced to
waiting around for record fairs, because the second hand record shops in
Newcastle are useless too.

Sorry about the little rant but it's not nice to lose a large part of
what has been a great hobby (obsession?) through the stupidity of
whoever (over)prices their stock.

Hope everyone else is having much better luck than i am at the moment.
(on the bright side: found Gloria Gaynor: Walk On By which made me
rather happy, as well as the Incredible Bongo Band, but had to look
through about 2000 7"s)


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:11:22 GMT
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotic Shakespeare (was: hyman rules, redux)

> From: J DeWitt <[e-mail]>
>
> Nat Kone wrote:
>
> > Dick Hyman rules... sort of.  Not always.
> > At his best, he rules.
> > But those six or eight great records are only the tip of the iceberg.
> > Below the surface of the water there's a whole heap of mediocrity.
>
> Allow me to add late my own observation on Hyman's substrata. For he has yet
> darker depths.
>
> I'm talking about this inverse pinnacle of complete preposterousness
> that lurks in my collection: "Sullivan, Shakespeare, Hyman" released
> in 1967 by Monmouth-Evergreen records. This, this I found here in
> Sarasota, Florida, at the 17th Street Salvation Army, where one can
> find many dusty marvels. Maxine Sullivan sings the songs of William
> Shakespeare arranged and accompanied by Dick Hyman. I think I was
> attracted by the improbability of it.

OK, there are at least two more in this improaba-babble genre.

Firstly, there is a sung Shakespeare album by Cleo Laine and Johnny
Dankworth. This is one of the most hideous THINGS in existence and I
don't want to think about it anymore. DANGER, Will...

Secondly, there is "Swingin' The Bard" on the Atco label. Half the
tracks on this are groovy jazzy instrumentals indicative of
Shakesperian something-or-other. The talents of David Lindup and Ken
Jones are employed, among others. Unfortunately, these are interleaved
with a more "medieval" approach to the whole business, viols and
recorders and vocals and the whole bit.

More peripherally, DAMN FINE ITEMS are: (1) the cool "Falstaff's Hat
Dance" from Phil Moore's "An American In England", (2) the hideous
Kenneth Connor album (!!!) featuring songs from the "two Elizabethan
eras", Side A being smutty Elizabethan ballards with Liz I era
instrumentation, Side B being Sixties songs about LURVE arranged with
Liz I era instrumentation, and sides A&B together consituting a
horrific morass of wavering ghastly off-pitch vocalese hell.



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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:18:51 +0000
From: m h jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: I'm gonna DO it!

>
> I'm with Charles on this.
>
> El Maestro Con Queso
>
> From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm gonna DO it!
>
> Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl Vinyl
<snip>

Can i add that if bootlegging something wanted by djs and samplerers
(samplists?) then vinyl is definitely preferred, but then again even a
CD is better than nothing i reluctantly conclude... and fine if the
album is more for home listening.

(on the down side)
Does anyone know about the (il)legalities? is anyone likely to take
action on a brave bootlegger?


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:46:11 +0000
From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: I'm gonna DO it!

The penalties depend on the music you steal. Don't do Dick Hyman or Anandar
Shankar because Blue Note have recently bought the publishing rights (so
I've been told) and Blue Note are alive and well as well as being cash rich
and probably in touch with their lawyers. Do Les Baxter's Hells Belles
because Sidewalk are far away from me, probably long defunkt, poor and
insignificant.
The penalties are about your profits being torn from you plus your legal
costs and damages (if they are awarded).

But is a record company going to investigate for a matter of a few hundred
quid? Probably not.


Charlie





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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:42:11 +0000
From: m h jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collecting Crap Records/Internet Selling

Charles Moseley wrote:
>
> You are correct. Charity shops are full of crap that nobody wants, boot
> fairs are full of over-priced crap, record shops carry the same tired
> selections and the records that people want are impossible to find. Buy
> from the Internet. Its the only way left.
>
> Charlie

It's the over-pricing in charity shops that surprises me most. I can't
imagine many of the records going at these prices. So what do they do
with them? anyone know? besides very rarely having a drastic sale, i.e.
everything 10p (and still that would be expensive for most!)

Buy from the internet? You don't mean joining the modern world, surely?
whatever next? a credit card? dj CD decks?

A question: (well, a few really)
how is most selling done via the internet? via cheque with private
dealers? what are those 'money orders' ppl in the US use? do we have
them in the uk? I seem to remember 'postal orders' from my youth, but
what the hell are they?


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:58:10 -0500
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Petey, Cleve, Jon and Annie

At 9:27 AM -0500 1/7/99, <[e-mail]> wrote:
>OK, Cleve, WHAT'S WRONG WITH PETEY WHEATSTRAW!

Actually, I consider this one of the greatest films ever made.

I ain't lyin!

br cleve


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:19:40 GMT
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [m h jemmeson: (exotica) Re: Collecting Crap Records]

> >
> > Collecting Crap Records
> > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/plasterboard_towers/crmain.htm
> >
>
> This is *so* true. Now you lot over the Atlantic can see the sort of
> things in our record collections, and why there's so few of those huge
> score lists posted by us in the UK.
>
> The author's a bit optimistic on the pricing though.  50p gets you very
> little in a lot of charity shops these days, most have their prices at 1
> pound per record now, and one offender (Shelter in Newcastle) has the
> cheek to charge 2 quid for everything, and the most exciting ones there
> were Bravo Brasso and a bad Klaus Wunderlich.  Plus in another I saw
> 'The Fabulous Shirley Bassey' and 'Peters and Lee' for 3.50 each.(!!!!)
> I'd feel bad arguing but is anyone else having these problems? it seems
> to me that they've held this opinion that all old records must be
> valuable for about the past 3 years now, and now the furniture, books,
> clothes etc are all following.

I agree, to an extent. Quite a few places now charge more than a pound
(generally when they charge high, they either do it in bulk, in which
case fuck 'em, or they do it to seemingly random albums which I don't
want anyway). Usually the big national chains. But lots of places
still charge 50p -- or less. A pound or less seems standard for car
boots. You can get plenty at this price at record fairs too. At least,
I'm still picking up tons for cheap.

But there again I've been insufferably smug ever since I picked up all
those "Harmonic Mood Music Library" 10 inches for 25p each.

I know the guy who wrote these pages, and he really is serious in that
he collects what he regards as CRAP. Stuff that NO ONE wants. In three
words, "Incredibly Strange Music". 50p can go a long long way.



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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:27:20 -0500
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Petey, Cleve, Jon and Annie

OK, Cleve, WHAT'S WRONG WITH PETEY WHEATSTRAW!  I mean, it ain't no
AVENGING DISCO GODFATHER, but to slam against this piece of cineman!  Ha!!
;^<>

So, my weary eyes are suddenly brightened this morning by the news that Jon
Hendrix and Annie Ross are singing together tonight through Saturday here
in Boston!  WHAT!?!?  Forget impeachment, this is big news!
Anyway...I want to know from you all around the world, if these cats can
still swing/sing well?  Annie, while quite frigginhilarious in SHORT CUTS,
uh, didn't sound like the wailin' mama I once loved..of course, that was
her role in that film...
I have just too many times been bitterly disappointed by seeing folks from
the 40s-60 who were great then, BOMB live in the 80s and 90s.  I don't want
my illusions of these unearthly singers shattered.  And if they have some
combo of jazzbo geeks backing them with those goofy stick basses and
headphones, I'll really wanna buy it then...
Ah, decisions....
HELP!
Gratefully,
Jane Fondle
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:26:24 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Upcoming releases of note

Culled from various sources...

JANUARY 12
Pop Romantique (Emperor Norton -- artists like Air redo French pop)
Blue Bacharach (Blue Note)
Blue Movies: Scoring for the Studios (Blue Note)
The Mighty Hercules (Drive Archive -- soundtrack from the TV cartoon)

JANUARY 26
Electronic '80s (Polygram -- 2-CD set)
Respect Is Burning 2 (Astralwerks -- more French grooves from Dimitri, et al.)

FEBRUARY 16
Delphonic Sounds Today: Del-Fi Does Del-Fi (Del-Fi)
Wired Magazine Presents Music Futurists (Rhino)

FEBRUARY 23
Acid Lounge (Right Stuff)
Electropop (Hip-O)
Funk 2001 (Right Stuff)
The Shaft Anthology (Hip-O -- music from all three "Shaft" films)



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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:02:34 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: you can copy CDR to CDR

>From: [e-mail]

>You can always buy one of the Philips home CD makers....
>And yes you can copy CDR to CDR

    not on the philips audio cd recorder CDR-870, which uses
    "1-generation" copy-protection: you can make a digital copy
    of a digital original, but you cannot make another digital copy
    of the first copy

        Johan


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:08:27 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: I'm gonna do it.

my votes:

* The Sonic Vibration of Tom Dissvelt and Kid Baltan: Song of The 2nd Moon
    (= The Elektrosonics: Electronic Music)
* Arthur Mullard: Arthur Mullard of London
* Ananda Shankar: Ananda Shankar with Moog
* Wild Honey Singers: A child's introduction to Elvis Presley
* Peter Cook & Dudley Moore: Bedazzled

if i had more time, i'd do the same as Ronn.

        Johan


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 14:18:01 -0500
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:HOTLanta!

>Seeking recommendations for "atmospheric" (okay exotica/lounge-type)
restaurants/bars/clubs in the Atlanta and Chicago areas.


Hi!  You must go to the Clermont!  It's an old hotel, with a lounge/bar in
the basement...and it's such a Las Vegas Grind meets "The Black Lodge" from
Twin Peaks kinda bar, lots of red velvet, beaded curtains...They only serve
beer in cans, and the strippers are these old ladies, who crush the beer
cans, between their  uh, mammaries...
I also think it's the last place GG Allin lived...great place for junkies
and dregs!  An Atlanta-must see!

Jane Fondle...

PS-cuz I'm on the digest, if anyone responded individually to my
Hendrix/Ross question, could you fwd me a copy?


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