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exotica-digest       Wednesday, October 14 1998       Volume 02 : Number 228



In This Digest:

(exotica) New Reviews @ Multi-Directions
(exotica) mo' moog history
(exotica) Nutty Squirrels spotting
(exotica) Moog Denny & Baxter
Re: (exotica) Moog Denny & Baxter
(exotica) "Mondo Bongos" playlist for Oct 14th
(exotica) desiworld
(exotica) Big Band Moog
Re: (exotica) Fred Lane
Re: (exotica) Hipness and the 5,6,7,8's
Re: (exotica) The Continental
(exotica) German Car Ads
Re: (exotica) The Continental
Re: (exotica) Nutty Squirrels spotting
(exotica) Moog Denny & Baxter and Zounds! What Sounds and Music from a Surplus Store
Re: (exotica) Organs of Toledo
Re: (exotica) moog history
Re: (exotica) Werner Muller and Germany (LONG REPLY)
Re: (exotica) Fred Lane
Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge Bonus Tracks
Re: (exotica) German Car Ads
(exotica) Touch of Evil
(exotica) Jumbo Shrimp live
Re: (exotica) Hipness and the 5,6,7,8's
Re: (exotica) Werner Muller and Germany (LONG REPLY)
Re: (exotica) Werner Muller and Germany (LONG REPLY)

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:37:48 -0600
From: "Mark B. Conklin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Reviews @ Multi-Directions

Some new reviews are online at Multi-Directions. Please check them out at:

http://www.idcomm.com/personal/mconklin/

New Reviews:

*Across 110th Street Soundtrack (Charly)
*Esthero - Breath From Another (Work)
*Ben Neill - Gold Bug (Antilles)
*The Pottery Barn Presents Acid Jazz (Pottery Barn)
*Buddy Rich Big Band - Mercy, Mercy (Pacific Jazz)
*The Soul Of Lennon & McCartney (Dino)

Plus these from last week:

*Roy Ayers - Evolution (Polydor)
*Count Basie - Basie's Beatle Bag (Verve)
*Freezone, Volume 5 (SSR)
*Groovy, Volume 3 (Irma)
*Coleman Hawkins - Desafinado (Impulse!)
*DJ Krush and Toshinori Kondo - Ki Oku (Apollo)
*Johnny Lewis Quartet - Shuckin' n' Jivin' (Luv N' Haight)
*Henry Mancini - The Days Of Wine And Roses (RCA)
*Visit Venus - Music For Space Tourism, Volume 1 (Yo Mama)
*Fred Wesley - Swing & Be Funky (Minor Music)

And many more. . .

Multi-Directions specializes in Acid Jazz, Ambient, Funk, IDM, Jazz, Latin,
Lounge and Lounge reviews.

While you're there check out the sale and wants lists.

If you purchase CDs and Vinyl from individuals online, you may find the
Good Traders Lists useful.

Please support Multi-Directions and other small, independent web pages. . .

Thanks.

MC


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:45:37 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) mo' moog history

At 11:19 AM 10/13/98 -0700, Jasmine wrote:
>I'm in great need of a "timeline of the moog" web site... something that
>sort of breaks it down by invention, experimentation, artists who've done
>works based on the moog, etc...


Geez, do I have to get my bookmarks in order! Here's two more I neglected to
mention:
<http://www.synthfool.com>
<http://www.obsolete.com/120_years> This is *the* timeline of electronic
instruments

- -Lou

Try these:
<http://www.synthmuseum.com>
<http://www.grandroyal.com/Magazine>
<http://www.synthony.com/museum.html>
<http://www.moogmusic.com/archive/index.html>




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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:00:25 -0400
From: Peter Ledebur <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Nutty Squirrels spotting

Saw John Waters' Pecker this weekend (uh... well, you know
what I mean) and caught the Nutty Squirrels in the background
of one scene. Anyone know if they ended up on the soundtrack
CD?

(Great jazz scat vocals done ala the Chipmunks, for those
unfamiliar with 'em. Jack Diamond is a huge fan; in fact the only
other place I've heard them on his House of Games show.)


Peter L.
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Music for Better Living
Wed. 6-7pm -- WZBC 90.3 FM Newton/Boston
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:01:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moog Denny & Baxter

The Holy Grail of moog music has been released on cd, probably
bootlegged, Exotic Moog by Martin Denny and Moog Rock by Les Baxter. I
understand its a limited edition of 1000 copies a sure sign of
something fishy.  Both albums are on the same twofor cd and are
available at othermusic.com.

As Elizabeth mentioned earlier, the new Fantastic Plastic Machine
album, Luxury (Japanese release) is available and its great.  Its also
to be found at Other Music at Japanese prices.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy
Chuck
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:12:33 -0700
From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Moog Denny & Baxter

At 3:01 PM -0700 10/13/98, chuck wrote:
>The Holy Grail of moog music has been released on cd, probably
>bootlegged, Exotic Moog by Martin Denny and Moog Rock by Les Baxter. I
>understand its a limited edition of 1000 copies a sure sign of
>something fishy.  Both albums are on the same twofor cd and are
>available at othermusic.com.

yes, i have this, and it does look decidedly bootlegged.  the label is
"electronic vangaurd" out of NYC.   There are no liner notes, and all the
songs on are one cd.  The actual cd has a really awful solarized picture of
the lovers from "moog rock" on it.

- -jjj




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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:40:22 -0400
From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Mondo Bongos" playlist for Oct 14th

Mondo Bongos can be heard every Wed at 9 am on CFRU 93.3 fm in Guelph,
Ontario.Canada

Jack "Bongo" Burger - China Nights Mambo "Music for the Jet Set"
Martin Denny - Quiet Village "The Exotic Sounds"
Earl Grant - House of Bamboo "Martini Madness"
Ivy Pete & his Limbomaniacs - Limbo Man "Limbo Party"
The Rockyfellers - Don't Sit Down "Lost Treasures"
Gloria Lynne - Bali H'ai "Music for the Jet Set"
Eden Ahbez - Tobago "Lost Treasures"
Milt Raskin - Moon Festival "Kapu"
Korla Pandit - Lotus Love "Tropical Magic"
Korla Pandit - Magnetic Theme "Music for Meditation"
DJ Shadow - Organ Donor "Preemptive Strike"
Mr Scruff - Mouse at Organ "Cup of Tea Records: Another Compilation"
Amon Tobin - Bridge "Permutation"
Funki Porcini - Snip & Lock "Love, Pussycats & Carwrecks"
Lucia Pamela - Moontown/Walking on the Moon "Into Outer Space with..."
Stereolab - International Colouring Contest "Mars Audiac Quintet"
Attilio Mineo - Man in Art "Man in Space with Sounds"
Combustible Edison - Call of the Space Siren "The Impossible World"
Joe Meek & the Blue Men - Orbit Around the Moon "I Hear a New World"
Forrest J. Ackerman - excerpt from "Music for Robots"
Aphex Twin - [untitled] "Analogue Bubblebath 4"
Spaced Out - Bond Street/Walk on By "The Exotic Moog of Space Age Bachelor
Pad Music #2"
Gabor Szabo - Sophisticated Wheels "The Hascisch Party!"
Combustible Edison - Mr Pushkin Came to Shove "The Impossible World"
Albert Hall - R53 "Coffee Table Music - sounds & soundtracks mixed by
Grantby"

Comments & questions welcome
Thanks for Reading!

Allan



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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:00:07 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) desiworld

Since Indian filmi music has popped up again, I thought I'd pass along the
URL for another fab site.
- -Lou


Indian cinema - commonly known as Bollywood - is where the musical
still reigns supreme.It is discussed, reviewed and gossiped about at
DesiWorld.  Star interviews, pictures, home pages and addresses are
also listed.  Both the fan and the curious newcomer can explore Indian
pop culture and enjoy clips of current films and music.
http://www.desiworld.com




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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:17:22 -0400
From: "Jeff Chenault" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Big Band Moog

The "Big Band Moog" album was recorded by Keith Droste and released by Radio
Shack's Realistic label, #50-2022.  It includes both songs "Moog In My Soul"
and "Smoke Gets In My Moog".  It is a pretty good album but what makes it
unique is that it was encoded for "Stereo-4" which was Radio Shack's version
of "QUAD".  Sounds great with the right reciever!! (which I have).

Hope this helps Jill.

Jeff





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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:01:15 -0400
From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Fred Lane

Ratso Russo wrote:

> >Can anyone tell me where to find a Fred Lane discography?  I own
> >only one record entitled, 'Car Radio Jerome' on ShimmyDisc
>
> Another ShimmyDisc release of his is titled "From the One that Cut You."
> Just as great!

And who can forget "Raudelunas Pataphysical Revue starring Ron Pate's
Debonairs featuring the Rev Fred Lane"...especially for Fred Lane's
charmingly naive versions of 'Volare' & 'My kind of town (Chicago is)'!

Allan


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:15:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hipness and the 5,6,7,8's

<< I can't believe that noone among us has heard the _How To Speak Hip_
 album... >>

all i can tell you is that i've looked for that LP for five years and have yet
to find it.  FIVE YEARS!

I don't just mean poping into local record stores, I'm talking about combing
collector's lists, searching the web over and over in search of the LP that
inspired my screen name and the title of my mixes.

I wonder which will happen first?  A CD reissue or me finding that record?

I'd bet me finding the record!

Just another reason to buy a turntable and let the vinyl God lead you.




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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:33:59 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Continental

So do we think the bonus (or bogus  imho) tracks were from this show??? or
recorded more recently for the UL CD's?

Robert

And that last track on Crime Scene (track 18) is from the Alfred Hitchcock
album "Music To Be Murdered By".  The bogus track is not listed in the liner
notes or on the track listings.

Robert

In a message dated 98-10-13 14:41:59 EDT, you write:

<< > What years was this on???

 According to "Total Television", it aired on CBS (!) from January to April
 1952. Renzo Cesana starred as The Continental. It doesn't mention the KTLA
 airings.

 From there Cesana went on to a syndicated (also 1952) program called "First
 Date", where he greeted couples who were on their first date together.

 I wonder if he tried to steal all the girls. >>


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:52:13 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) German Car Ads

Jasmine wrote recently asking about the VW ad music.

Now I got a question:  Did anyone see the Mercedes ad that aired about a year
ago that started very dank and serious with the pretense that the Mercedes
engineers were calling a press conference?  The main guy breaks into a rock-a-
billy type song singing about the new cars.

I had this recorded at one time on VHS (but it got erased).  I must have
played it back about 20 times -- the tune was infectiously catchy and the
site-gags were hilarious.

Am I the only one who was impressed by this?

Robert


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:00:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: Indulis R Rutks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Continental

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> So do we think the bonus (or bogus  imho) tracks were from this show??? or
> recorded more recently for the UL CD's?

Like 'em or not, they're the real deal - at least they were recorded in
the 50's (I don't know if they're from the show).

I picked up a 78 not too long ago, with The Continental performing "A
Handful of Stars" and "It Can't Be Wrong".

By the way, the label lists Eddie Baxter as the organist.

- -Indy Rutks ([e-mail])




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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:10:26 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Nutty Squirrels spotting

<< (Great jazz scat vocals done ala the Chipmunks, for those
 unfamiliar with 'em >>

the furry little critters are jazzmen Sascha Burland and Don Elliott in
disguise.  I have a couple of Nutty Squirrels LP's:

Bird Watching - every tune has something to do with birds and the scat vocals
are quite great.  Cover has a couple of toys squirrels looking through a
telescope with a field guide on birds close by.  (Columbia)

The Nutty Squirrels Sing It's Hard Day's Night - not nearly as good, pretty
silly and often annoying versions of 1964 or so hits.

there is another - their first - with best selling "Uh-Oh" on it, but I don't
have that one.

Granville (Sascha) Burland wrote a number of commercials and theme music,
"What's My Line?" and "No Matter What Shape (Your Stomach's In)", to name a
couple.  I have a very enjoyable LP from him, "Swingin' The Jingles", where
such products as Marlboros, Nestles Quick and Nabisco Chippers are given their
due.  Dick Hyman appears!

Don Elliott's "Music For The Sensational Sixties" has a killer cover of Don on
a Vespa with his mellophone attached to the scooter's side as he hurls through
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:01:26 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Moog Denny & Baxter and Zounds! What Sounds and Music from a Surplus Store

Any comments on the quality of the recording?

Also, any (please!!!) comments on the bootleg:  Zounds! What Sounds and Music
from a Surplus Store??

Email me off list if you like.

Robert


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:28:23 -0700
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Organs of Toledo

At 11:33 PM 10/12/98 -0400, Ross Orr wrote:
>
>Bear with me, I have a kind of an abnormally high tolerance for organ
>records. . .

Oh man, this introduction scared me.  I too have an abnormally high
tolerance for organ records and I always have.

On top of that, Ross's finds always make me jealous.

Everyone's finds make me jealous but Ross's make me consistently a bit more
jealous than most.

>>_The Man From O.R.G.A.N._ DIck Hyman (Command, 1965).

See?  Dick Hyman organ PLUS he's doing Spy stuff.  All you'd have to say is
that he plays a bit of moog on the record and that there's a naked woman on
the cover and I would be forced to take a bus down to Ann Arbor, find your
house, find a way to ingratiate myself anonymously into your household -
either by faking a heart attack in front of your wife or maybe if you have
a pool, almost drowning in it - and then when I'm alone in the house one
day, stealing exactly one milk crate's worth of records and no more.

>_Hi-Dee-Fi_ Lenny Dee (Decca). I realized with stark terror that my Lenny
>Dee LPs have quietly slipped ahead of the Three Suns and Pere Ubu as the
>artist I have the most abums of. . . Brrrr.

I need numbers please.

How many Pere Ubu records do you have?

I seem to recall that your Three Suns collection passed the three figure mark.
So does that mean that you now have more than a hundred Lenny Dee records?

This is an issue of some concern for me.

I have 15 Lenny Dee records.  I have owned about ten more but I got rid of
some of them.  The question is why haven't I gotten rid of more?  Isn't
that too many?

I've also gotten rid of Three Suns records but I still have 15 left.

And I have over 30 Mancini records.  And yet I would never call myself "a
Mancini collector".  I'm just a guy who finds Mancini records every month
or so.  I used to get rid of the lesser Mancini records but now I guess I
usually keep them.

But the point is I only have 12 Coltrane records, 11 Miles Davis,  10 Al
Green, 9 Curtis Mayfield... do I hear 8?

I know that's because Coltrane didn't make as many records as Mancini or
Lenny Dee I guess and they are cheaper when you find them, but still...
that's the horrible thing about these easy listening records, isn't it?
They're cheap and endless.
EXCEPT FOR THE ONES YOU REALLY WANT.

Ross, do you ever get rid of records even though they fit into your general
tastes?

Same question to the rest of you?

I know it's hard to sell them but this is the reason we should institute
some gigantic exotica list exchange program.  No money passes hands.  You
get credit for each record you send off and for every one you send, you get
one in return.

Anyone want to administer that?

>_Dee Latin_ Lenny Dee (Decca). Now we are getting somewhere!

Do I have this one?  Of course not.

Okay...

I'm clinically depressed today so I'll just stop here and say that all the
organ records you mentioned made me feel deeply jealous and also made me
feel that all my records are worse than all of yours.

(Even the Ethel Smith record made me jealous so you know I'm in trouble.)

So you could send me drugs that address my seratonin imbalance or you could
send me records.

Nat





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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:28:25 -0700
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) moog history

At 11:19 AM 10/13/98 -0700, jasmine j jopling wrote:
>
>I'm in great need of a "timeline of the moog" web site... something that
>sort of breaks it down by invention, experimentation, artists who've done
>works based on the moog, etc...

I'd love to see a moog discography myself... if for no other reason than to
thoroughly discourage me from my attempt to amass a "moog record collection".

I currently have 28 records that I would call "MOOG records", about evenly
split between the "classics" and the more fringe stuff.  You don't hear
much about the real fringe records.

For instance:
"Electronic Music to Blow Your Mind by".. on Design records and they call
the  band "The Lovemachine".  It's actually not a moog record but there's
synthesizer on it I think.
Is there a discography that includes stuff like this?

My friend has a record at his store and as I recall, all it says is "Moog"
against a black background.  He's going to put a big price on it I think.
I've never paid more than seven dollars for a moog record but I'm thinking
I might pay more for that one. And it's only because I think I'm getting
quite a good Moog collection.

If I could see an intimidatingly long Moog discography, maybe I'd see that
I'll never have a great moog collection and I could go back to where I was
when I only had one or two and I wasn't trying to make it into a collection.

Anyone help me here?

BTW, I have a Jean Jacques Perry 45 and I'm wondering what record it comes
from.  It's "Country Rock Polka" and "Passport to the Future".  I don't
know which is the A-side.

Nat



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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:28:17 -0700
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Werner Muller and Germany (LONG REPLY)

At 10:38 AM 10/12/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote:
>

>For somebody who like me was born long after
>the second world war had ended, but as a German, it's a bit nerving to
>be confronted with the same prejudices over and over again. You have
>probably never been in Germany and you probably think that your country
>is less militaristic than mine. I doubt it.

I wasn't sure whether to reply to this or just take my medicine.  After
all, my posting was ABOUT prejudice so I had to expect that I'd offend
someone.  In fact I had to expect I'd offend someone in particular.

And I didn't know whether to reply personally or to the list.

But I'm a bit of an "online exhibitionist" so I can't bother doing it
unless it's public.

Mostly I was talking about MUSICAL prejudice.  So if a German is tired of
being confronted by musical prejudice again and again, maybe he should look
to Kraftwerk or Werner Muller or Zacharias.  Maybe there's a connection
between musical prejudices and a more general prejudice but that's not
necessarily true.
If you're not American, you're going to have to live with that kind of
prejudice.
 have to constantly defend Atom Egoyan when people put down Canadian film
and I regularly have to to pay for the sins of Loverboy and Brian Adams and
Celine Dion and the Barenaked Ladies when people put down Canadian music.

But since you brought it up, I have been to Germany.  And since my country
is Canada and not the U.S. - as you seem to assume - then yes I do assume
that your country is more "militaristic" than mine.

> Part of my tax money still goes to victims of
>the second world war

Most of my tax money goes to zillions of little programs that I would never
support if they asked me.
I have mixed feelings myself when it comes to the issue of paying
reparations but I must admit that I always wonder what people are really
saying when they point out that their tax dollars go to this particular
program or that one.
If your tax dollars go there, does that mean you support it?  Does it mean
that you accept it?  Does it mean that you're forever off the hook...
assuming you were on the hook in the first place?

 and there have been films about the cruelty of the
>Third Reich in German TV every day since I have been able to think. I
>don't need a Steven Spielberg to remind me. Times have changed. You
>shouldn't form your view on the German culture exclusively by Hollywood
>movies. Sorry, your post hit some nerve in me. I never defend Germany
>very much, but this time I felt I have to say something.

Well I can understand how I hit a nerve but again, I was mostly talking
about Werner Muller, not Werner Klemperer as Commandant Klink.

But since you brought it up, I do wonder what it was in my original posting
that made you think that my opinions of Germany, the German character or
German music were influenced by a filmmaker whose work I hate with every
fibre of my being

And as far as German TV or the History Channel here - which is essentially
"the Hitler Channel" - showing daily movies about the Third Reich, there is
a reason for that you know.  Number one, here's no good newsreel footage of
the Inquisition.  Number two, the story still isn't over for some people,
believe it or not.  And finally, whether you like it or not, the Second
World War, the Third Reich, the Holocaust and Adolph Hitler are
collectively A GREAT STORY.

BUT NOW let's get to the crux of the issue:

>Your concept of GROOVE might not be everything that music is all about.
> As in the Exotica list you should be aware
>of that and not look down on those cultures that you like to exploit at
>the same time.

I'm not sure what you mean by "exploit" but I assume it's another veiled
reference to America's cultural imperialism which as a Canadian I am well
aware of but anyway, let's move on.

It comes down to this.  Do you think there's such a thing as "national
character" or "national culture" and do you think it affects the music or
the art in general that comes from that country?  I'm not saying national
origin says everything but does it say anything?

I'm not sure that I would have seen a connection between their films if
they'd come from different countries but when I was a big fan of the "new
wave" of German filmmakers, yeah I did see a connection between Fassbinder
and Herzog and even Wenders.  Though Wenders is clearly fascinated - and
even focussed on - American culture, I still feel like he expresses that
fascination in a "German" way.

If I'm looking for a "down n dirty" rock record, I'm going to be very
suspicious of any band from France.  They do that light pop thing as well
as anyone but there aren't many French Rolling Stones or Motorheads or
Ramones or Social Distortions.

And having mentioned a couple of British rock bands there, I'll admit that
I have a prejudice about British bands too.  Yeah the Stones and Motorhead
rocked in a certain way.  But they rocked in a different way and I used to
always be able to  tell if a rock band was from the British Isles or from
North America.  I loved all those white blues bands in the sixties but
Savoy Brown and early Fleetwood Mac sounded nothing at all like Paul
Butterfield or Canned Heat who were somehow "bluesier" and even more
"authentic"... and who I preferred.

And while I believe that white men can play the blues, if I was looking for
a new blues record - which I'm not - I think I'd buy a record by an older
black American bluesman before I'd buy a record by a new young white German
blues band.

It's totally baffling to me but for some reason, Canadian rock bands - both
defunct and should-be defunct -  which can't get arrested in Canada or the
U.S., are selling out in Germany.

Saga sells in Germany.  Even Gowan sells in Germany.  Does that say
anything about German tastes?  And if it does, does it also say anything
about the cultural character of the country?

My post was mostly about a Werner Muller Latin record and my surprise that
it was pretty good.  I just gave someone another Werner Muller record.  The
record I gave away sounded like I expect Werner Muller to sound.  Can I say
that the Werner Muller record I gave away sounded "typically German"?  No,
not exactly but I can say that it sounded like I would expect a record by a
guy named Werner Muller to sound like.

I have a Latin record by Acker Bilk.  I won't say it works but the attempt
is interesting.  Given what other Acker Bilk records sound like, his
version of Latin music is pretty well what you'd expect.
Given what I'd heard of other Werner Muller records, HIS version of Latin
music is better than you'd expect.

I admitted in my original posting that my response to a record by someone
named "Werner Muller" was to some degree influenced by being raised with
certain prejudices.  So I can't defend it.

But as an adult, as much as I might have fought my own prejudices, I have
also had experiences which have created new reasons to "PRE-JUDGE" records,
movies, books etc.

World War 2 is probably somewhere in the background of my thoughts and
maybe I can never be sure how much it influences me but I've had a lot of
my own experiences with German people and with the products of German
culture and I do have a certain sense of the "German character" and if
someone says to me "Hey do you want this GERMAN ROCK record - or German
punk or German pop ..?", yes I do have an expectation of what it might
sound like... and that expectation is influenced by a lot of things but
"national character" is one of them.

You know, you can't have it both ways.  You can't on the one hand say that
there are all these different cultures and influences in the world and
"America is not everything" and then turn around and say that I should have
no expectations about some German guy, most of whose records feature this
happy, bouncy polka-sounding stuff.

If I said that German music was exactly the same as American music, I
assume you'd argue with me.  So it's not the same but you should never
prejudge it and assume it's not the same.

You're right of course. My concept of GROOVE is not all there is. And if
I'm looking for my concept of groove, I don't expect to find it in a twenty
five year old record by a guy named Werner.

SORRY EVERYONE

Nat



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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 98 23:49:27 -0500
From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Fred Lane

The idea of a Fred Lane discography is kind of silly since there are =
only two albums:

=B3From the One that Cut You=B3 and =B3Car Radio Jerome=B2 both are =
Shimmydisc LPs. I=B9m told that they were both issued as one CD but I =
cannot vouch for that.

Back in the early nineties there was a Shimmydisc ad in Option that =
mentioned a new Fred Lane album =B3Ice Pick to the Mood=B2 (what an =
astoundinly Laneian title.). I called up Shimmydisc at the time and =
found out that it was not to be. Evidently Lane and Kramer couldn=B9t =
agree on something and the whole deal fell apart. So, there might =
have been new stuff recorded...then again there might not.

The Fred Lane persona is one cloaked in mystery. Supposedly his real =
name is Ron Pate and rumor has it that he retired to making =
whirly-gigs in Tuscaloosa! Of course this story too fits into the =
Lane aesthetic.

There is a web site titled =B3Help Me Find Fred Lane=B2 (sorry I =
don=B9t have the address.)
I checked it out recently and it seems to have not been updated in =
the past year.
Some one on this site mentions an album =B3Ron Pate=B9s Pataphysical =
Revue=B2 but, it=B9s not too clear what=B9s up with that.
I have a Recommended Records compilation that has the same version of =
I talk to My Haircut=B2 as on the Shimmydisc album but, it=B9s =
credited to Ron Pate and his Debonaires.

Hope these clues help shed more light of the Fred Lane phenomena.

Frank



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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:15:05 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge Bonus Tracks

At 10:30 PM 12-10-98 -0400, Peter wrote:
>Anyone know the artist and titles for the bonus tracks at the end of some
of the UL comps?
>It's some guy over movie theatre type organ music reading lyrics or poetry
with a French accent.

I have a record with this guy.  I know this has been discussed here before, so
you might want to check the exotica archives.

Renzo Cesana is the guy, also known as "The Continental."  The Capitol LP
"Camp!" T 2474 has his version of "Roses and Champagne."  It makes the
entire album!

Byron

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:09:22 -0700
From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) German Car Ads

>Now I got a question:  Did anyone see the Mercedes ad that aired about a
year
>ago that started very dank and serious with the pretense that the Mercedes
>engineers were calling a press conference?  The main guy breaks into a
rock-a-
>billy type song singing about the new cars.

Didn't catch it, but I see VW is in their 4th decade of the same ad
campaign.  Obviously it works (what will all those yuppies do with their
retro-Bugs next year?).  In fact, what product doesn't use that model these
days?

On that very subject, I found Thomas Frank's CONQUEST OF THE COOL (U of
Chicago Press) a pretty dry read though a thorough study of the role of the
rebel image in advertising during the "Cultural Revolution."

Not trying to start a book chat.  It's just that a company that won't fess
up to their checkered (war-time) past doesn't deserve such a cute, fuzzy
image.  Oh, and boycott Disney.

C. "I'm really not a misanthrope!" Russo
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:45:55 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Touch of Evil

You may have heard that Orson Welles' Touch of Evil has been released in
a so-called "director's cut" (because the directions for the edits came
from notes made by Welles, not because he personally prepared this new
release).

One of the approaches taken was to emphasize the wonderful sound
compositions Welles was after.  Thus, in this re-release, Henry Mancini's
opening music was
omitted in favor of the layered ambience.

I am not sure if any of his music made it to this release.

So, have you seen it?  Do you miss the Mancini music?  What do you think?

Personally, I am not always into director's cuts.  I still favor the
original version of Blade Runner because Harrison Ford's narration added a
special touch.

Byron

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:57:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Jumbo Shrimp live

San Francisco instro kings JS return to the legendary Purple Onion
(in North Beach on Columbus near Kearny)
This Friday Oct 16
opening the show will be primitive girls-in-the-cave rock from
The Neanderdolls
and space/surf mania from
Planet Seven

show starts at 9 or whenever owner Tom Guido says it starts!

JS and Planet 7 CDs will be available


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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:29:40 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hipness and the 5,6,7,8's

<< I can't believe that noone among us has heard the _How To Speak Hip_
album... >>

If you would like to hear Real Audio clips of this album, go to
http://www.3-cities.com/~geets/home.htm



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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:11:14 +0100
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Werner Muller and Germany (LONG REPLY)

> From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>

[massive snip]

>
> You're right of course. My concept of GROOVE is not all there is. And if
> I'm looking for my concept of groove, I don't expect to find it in a twenty
> five year old record by a guy named Werner.
>

Here are my Werner Muller recommendations:

- - "The Sumptuous Strings of the Werner Muller Orchestra" (Decca Phase 4)

This is -- seriously -- one of the grooviest records of all time. And
the grooviest track is "Flight of the Bumble Bee". I know that sounds
sarcastic, but it isn't. Misleading title, misleading songs, killer
album.

- - "The Strip Goes On" (Decca)

Absolute sleazy classic. The first track, "Bodybuilder", you might
recognize, it being used as the basis for Bentley Rhythm Ace's big
hit. This is far superior, with male and female voices describing what
they think about the bodybuilder.

- - "On The Move" (Decca Phase 4)

Not great all the way through, but the arrangements of "Istanbul" and
"Calcutta" are incredible.

- - "Wild Strings" (Decca Eclipse)

Like it sounds.


Other German recommendations, not including Peter Thomas:

- - Gert Wilden

Get the Schulmadchen Report!

- - Hazy Osterwald Sextet

This is based on one single track I've got, "Kriminaltango" which
sounds very Peter Thomasy (but comes from the 50s). I've always
wondered whether PT was an arranger for the group or something; never
found any other material by them. Maybe someone can tell me something
about them?

- - Norman Candler

Otherwise known as Gerhard Narholz. He changed his name for showbiz
reasons. There are some great tracks from the 70s where you really
notice the bass but the strings are going crazy on top. You will
sometimes find the Narholz name too (e.g. library music).

- - Klaus Wunderlich

Yes, there is tons of pure shit. "Sound 2000" has some good tracks on
it, and among the dreck there are some fabulous
pieces. Mr. Wunderlich's version of "Caravan" is perhaps the most
groovy weirdy one ever, and I bet you don't believe me.

- - James Last

Some people may think I'm taking the piss now, but amongst Mr. Last's
voluminous output are a few things you should own, just because
they're there: e.g. "Voodoo Party" (so as you can be scared by
Mr. Giant Man), and "James Last And The Rolling Trinity" (for a
similar experience with "The Booman" and the disco version of "Old
MacDonald").


There must be tons more, but those are just the ones that immediately
sprang to mind.



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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:25:20 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Werner Muller and Germany (LONG REPLY)

Hi Nat,

thanks for answering my posting so extensively.

I admit I thought you were American and not Canadian and I admit that
I'm a bit of over-sensible about these all-too-easy connections that
people make between German culture and the Nazis. You didn't do that.
But you made a connection between Germany and military marches and
that's just something that belongs to a past so long ago that I have not
experienced it myself in any way. Apart from the fact that all countries
have their marches the German music after the second world war has moved
away from that tradition so far and since such a long time that I
thought I have to fight to make this point clear.

When travelling the North American continent I often got the impression
that quite some people think that Germans still walk around with
"Pickel"helmets, listening to march music, smack their shoes together
when adressing each other and bark orders to servants. Some almost
seemed to be curious if we have electricity. Somebody asked me if I had
come by train. I got the impression of a very poorly informed popularity
in the US. It's not your fault and I don't think you're one of this kind
at all. But why say this thing about marches that don't take prisoners?
I couldn't really seperate the musical and the political content of it.

I agree with most of the rest of what you've said in your answer. You
know, the big problem for German musicians my and the following
generations always was and still is, how to create music (including the
simple problem of singing in German) that is not unaware of what's
happening internationally (and the Anglo-American music is the dominant
part of it) without just copying it, but stay unique AND avoid all those
own traditions that the Nazis have made impossible forever at the same
time. Or even take up those forms and give it a new meaning without
causing a turmoil of misunderstandings. It's really tough, you know, and
diffuse feelings of guilt accompany you as a German musician all the
time, unless you don't care anyway.

Besides we should rather talk about regional differences in the world
music culture than about national, because the idea of national
governments has nothing to do with it. I do think there are regional
differences (still) and I like it. They make the international culture
more interesting and inspiring. They will probably more and more
disappear as information brings us all closer together. But almost all
the music we dicuss in the Exotica list comes from this once in history
age when recordings suddenly made it possible to hear music from all
over and combine the different forms that have developed completely
seperately for centuries. Of course this is the idea of the melting pot
and it could happen the best in America and it could only succeed in
music. In real society life it was never so succesful.

German musicians after the war were so busy in neglecting their
disavowed own traditions that they came to copying American music that
it became almost disavowing themselves. All I can say is, it embarrasses
me the most, when German bands and musicians attempt to sound so
American, because they will never do the same thing better than the
original. German Hip Hop... to me Hip Hop is the music of the Bronx and
no basis whatsoever to copy it here. I don't even want a German band
sound "down'n'dirty" and I don't expect that there is one who can do it
properly. Germany is full of these misinterpretations of American
culture, as you mentioned (I don't know "Gowan" though).

So the number 1 goal I had in my own time as a musician was to get past
this Nazi/guilt-complex in order to be free enough to do my own thing as
autonomous part of a world culture. I just couldn't go the easy way,
"rock", sing in English, cause no troubles. Instead I wanted to adress
my audience in their own language, because I had to say something to
them and therefore I had to find rhythms that fit the German language.
In German they groove, but it's different from what grooves in English.

I see real improvements in the musical self-confidence here and  in
other parts of continental Europe and that's why I react so sensible at
being thrown back into the old cliches. I can only hope that you
understand this point. It's hard to explain even to Inlanders. I tell
you, it's a unique position that you have as a culturally interested
postwar German. I remember reading this chapter in "Pranks" where this
American artist - forgot his name - made a perfomance in Cologne in the
early 70s and had swasticas on stage and said some "Heil Hitlers" etc.
and couldn't understand why even young progressive people in the
audience didn't take it as good humour. It was just not possible at that
time. It took 50 years to get a bit over the trauma of the 3rd Reich and
it is still here.

To end this dispute in friendly terms... I fullheartedly believe that
Canada is as little militaristic as Germany today. No doubt about it.
I'm shure your friend Brian can answer your query for groovy German
music even better than I can, so I better shut up now.

Mo


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