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exotica-digest       Sunday, September 20 1998       Volume 02 : Number 213



In This Digest:

(exotica) Gentle People / Lorraine Bowen
(exotica) Lorraine Bowen Experience
(exotica) Things to do, see in Baltimore?
(exotica) Biophony
RE: (exotica) Bob Dixon obit and, no, this guy ain't dead
(exotica) Oops - Biophony
(exotica) Those hard to find cds
Re: (exotica) Tiki room context
(exotica) Carousel of Progress
Re: (exotica) re: Tiki Room/Nostalgia
Re: (exotica) re: Tiki Room/Nostalgia
Re: (exotica) Why Nostalgia? clothing
Re: (exotica) Other Crown Mysteries
Re: (exotica) Those hard to find cds
(exotica) RAYMOND SCOTT big band
(exotica) Wild Sounds: Exotica and Post-War Culture
(exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 20
Re: (exotica) Those hard to find cds
Re: (exotica) Tiki room context
Re: (exotica) Tiki room context
(exotica) The Saint theme
(exotica) A&E goes to Hell
Re:  (exotica) The Saint theme
Re: (exotica) A&E goes to Hell
Re: (exotica) Pocket Theremin
Re: (exotica) A&E goes to Hell
(exotica) Re: Disneyland: Other
(exotica) minidisc swaps, anyone?
(exotica) Celesta
(exotica) Nostalgia, a new aspect
Re: (exotica) Tiki room context
Re: (exotica) A&E goes to Hell
Re: (exotica) Re: Disneyland: Other
Re: (exotica) A&E goes to Hell
Re: (exotica) Carousel of Progress

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gentle People / Lorraine Bowen

Brad, if you like the Gentle People you might want to listen to Music
to Watch Comets By put together by the Gentle People.  I like the
Comets cd so much I purchased the cds from every artist on it except
for Lorraine Bowen which I have not been able to locate after much
hard work.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy
Chuck
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:24:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lorraine Bowen Experience

Mark:
The link for Lorraine Bowen at easynet is gone. I sent a check in July
to the Canada address but nothings happened.
I did print out a copy of the site in July,  it read as follows:

 "A Song, a Smile and a Memory To Treasure Forever"

 Yoo Hoo!
 Wow I'm on the internet!  It's SO modern.

 COMPACT DISK
 Greatest hits volume One is still available.  There's 7 hits
including Julie Christie, The Crumble Song,  Bicycle Adventure and
Interesting Mail with a complete 16 page booklet with all the words in
so you cansing along to your heart's content.

L~  11 (uk) inc. P&P
Cheques to Lorraine Bowen
PO Box 112, Dandury, Chelmsford, CM3 4Df

If you're one of our beloved American or North American cousins then
let not the worry of money transfer bother you. NO! there's a kind
lady sitting in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada just waiting for your dosh
(that's money in English). Here's the details:
> >
 Cheques for $20 (Canadian) or $22 (US dollars) Payable to Lorraine
Bowen from:- Nicola Schaefer 207 Harvard Avenue, Winnipeg,  Mannitoba,
R3M OJ9 Canada

VIDEO
I've done two videos.  BICYCLE ADVENTURE- a lovely scenic ride through
the Surrey countryide passing bowlers and sheep Plus SPACE-  a pop
video! ith husband and wife dancing team making guest appearances.
 Both L~4.50 each (abit expensive but cult value and limited editios)
same address.

> > ---"Mark D. Head"  wrote:
> > Thanks for your update - the link doesn't seem to work for me; it
says either I don't have permission to view the page or it's out of
date and doesn't exist.  Oh, well - maybe something on her will turn
up via the
 list - it's very frustrating to find cool stuff and then not be able
to buy more of it!

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:09:46 -0500
From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Things to do, see in Baltimore?

Hey, cats...

I'll be on a business trip to Baltimore next month. What are some good
bars/eateries/record stores I should check out?

- -Indy Rutks ([e-mail])



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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:14:52 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Biophony

Krause's name pops up here every now and then. A RealAudio netcast of
yesterday's All Things Considered interview with him is available at the
following URL:


Biophony -- Host Bob Edwards talks to Bernie Krause about the sounds he's
recorded in natural habitats around the world over the last 30 years. Krause
talks about "biophony," a term he defines as "the combined sound that whole
groups of living organisms produce in any given environment." (8:34)
[Krause's autobiography, Into a Wild Sanctuary: A Life in Music and Natural
Sound, is published by heyday books. His cd's are available this week on the
Mirimar label.] Due to Internet rights issues, this segment has been
modified from its original broadcast form.
<http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/980917.atc.html>




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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:21:28 -0500
From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Bob Dixon obit and, no, this guy ain't dead

[e-mail] wrote:

> << Shoot! I don't remember the answers to the first two questions, but I
>  believe the actor who introduced Sheriff Whats-his-name was Michael
>  Richards, who played Cosmo Kramer on "Seinfeld". >>
>
> Your right -- it was.

I did some more digging, and found this on the E! website
(http://www.eonline.com/Hot/Awards/Emmys98/Blow/index2.html):

"Michael Richards in a tux jacket and shorts does a Kramer stumble. Boy
that's old. He introduces a clip from the old Sheriff John series: "My first
inspiration," Richards says. The real Sheriff John is here, wearing his
actual sheriff suit and clutching his own Emmy."




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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:26:44 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Oops - Biophony

At 04:14 PM 9/18/98 -0500, I wrote:
>Krause's name pops up here every now and then. A RealAudio netcast of
>yesterday's All Things Considered interview with him is available at the
>following URL:
>Biophony -- Host Bob Edwards talks to Bernie Krause about the sounds he's
>recorded in natural habitats around the world over the last 30 years.
><http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/980917.atc.html>

Ooops, wrong show and URL.
The interview was on Morning Edition, and this is the proper URL:
<http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/archives/1998/980917.me.html>

- -Lou




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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:11:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Those hard to find cds

Drive In presents Easy tune Vol 1, 2, 3, & 4 on Drive-In /Outland
Records, 1996
I was able to find Vols 3 & 4 and now I understand that theres a
Japanese Easy Tune Greatest Hits out.  Vol 2 is Xmas music!  Does any
one have any info on how to find Vol 1 & 2 or the Best of Easy Tunes?

Easy Listening in the Big Easy
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:54:13 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki room context

In a message dated 98-09-15 12:30:27 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< So all Disney's gotta do is a Tiki-flavored movie (animated or not) and the
 Tiki Room would be back with a vengeance. Has Disney picked up on the
 Exotica/Lounge vibe yet? .... I can see how DisneyLand might need the space
for new attractions and have to sacrifice an old attraction, but there's
plenty of room in DisneyWorld.   They should create a space for all the old
attractions to go when they
 retire. That's what Florida is for,  >>

I agree!  It does seem curious that with all the popular commercials on
television using "lounge/exotica" signifiers/references/themes that Disney
wouldn't know about the revival - and figuring there's got to be at least SOME
hipsters working there - do they or do they not know of this?  My guess is
they don't, but even if they did, they'd probably say the target audience is
too small to warrant keeping the attraction.  So why didn't they close it a
long time ago?  Makes you wonder, since we know that by the mid 70s the
exotica thing was an old and tired theme that people wanted to forget about.

It would be great if they'd reinstall the rides.  I will really miss the tiki
room if they tear it down.  Last time I was there, I tried to photograph it in
3-D and it was a really gloomy day and the pics came out either too dark or
drab.

- - Michele


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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:54:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Carousel of Progress

In a message dated 98-09-15 08:18:23 EDT, Rcbrooksod writes:

<< Did they have a Carosel of Progress (sponsored by GE) at Disneyland.  I
absolutely loved that.  The building was round and the outer part rotated.
  >>

I guess you did not see this in Yesterland?  So I would assume it didn't
exist.  But I do remember when I was younger they had this carousel-like
building where there was this walkway that rotated around the building as the
building seemed to go in the opposite direction.  My memory is foggy on this,
but I think it was a ".... America" ride.  It was over in Tomorrowland I'm
pretty sure.  Maybe is USED to be a Carousel of Progress?  Does anyone
remember what it is that I am referring to?

- - Michele


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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:54:05 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: Tiki Room/Nostalgia

In a message dated 98-09-15 06:56:47 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Or maybe Disney could actually open a "Disney Museum".
 Lord knows, I'd pay a little exytra dough for a trip into that park!!
 Especially as it grew bigger as the cool old rides were replaced with
spectacular new rides... >>

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.  For now we will have to settle for the
Yesterland website.  Have you been there yet?  Its pretty neat - full
descriptions of the ride with period photos.  Remember that ride at Disneyland
involving pack mules?    I couldn't find anyone (well, I guess maybe besides
my parents) that remember that ride and there is was in all its glory in
yesterland.  Also check out the Monsanto house of the future and some of the
other retired rides from Disney's Tomorrowland.

- - Michele


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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:53:57 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: Tiki Room/Nostalgia

In a message dated 98-09-15 06:56:47 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Or maybe Disney could actually open a "Disney Museum".
 Lord knows, I'd pay a little exytra dough for a trip into that park!!
 Especially as it grew bigger as the cool old rides were replaced with
spectacular new rides... >>

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.  For now we will have to settle for the
Yesterland website.  Have you been there yet?  Its pretty neat - full
descriptions of the ride with period photos.  Remember that ride at Disneyland
involving pack mules?    I couldn't find anyone (well, I guess maybe besides
my parents) that remember that ride and there is was in all its glory in
yesterland.  Also check out the Monsanto house of the future and some of the
other retired rides from Disney's Tomorrowland.

- - Michele


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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:54:22 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Why Nostalgia? clothing

In a message dated 98-09-16 18:32:41 EDT, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I must admit that I think that this special Individual look that most
 people want to create sort of has become a uniform...  >>

I think that every time I see yet another punk rocker driving around town in a
1960s-era car.  As for the clothes - well, I don't know about uniform - I have
yet to bump into another woman wearing the exact same dress I am and one
shouldn't forget for us poor exotica relations, vintage is a hell of a lot
cheaper than the department store appairel - where else can you get a nice
dress for work for only $8?

- - Michele


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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:06:39 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Other Crown Mysteries

I wrote:
>>the Bihari brothers played it legit with blues artists.
>
Jack wrote:

> BUT, they totally ripped them off as in not paying them nary a dime
>In fact, BB King left Crown as he got tired of seeing some of his finest
>recordings for .99 in stores like White Front or other late 60's/early 70's
>supermarket type stores
>All the rest of those guys too; Elmore James, John Lee Hooker, Etta James
>Didn't pay them almost anything

Yup. And the Biharis probably continued this nasty business with United
Records in the Original Folk Blues series. I still have United's The Legend
of Elmore James and Detroit Blues featuring John Lee Hooker, Eddie
Kirkland, Eddie Burns, and Sylvester Cotton. Picked them for 99 cents at a
Detroit drugstore long, long ago. And guess what? The United disks list the
same S. Normandie LA address as the Crown Lalo Morales LP.

Add Big Joe Turner to the the bros' victim list with Still Boss of the
Blues and The Soul of Big Joe Turner and Jimmy Nelson. Look out for
Superior Records, too -- another Bihari production.

You're right, Nat. Hideous covers. The bros loved royal purple. So did Liberace.

Wild about you, Elmore,
Mimi




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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:27:51 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Those hard to find cds

In a message dated 98-09-18 17:16:32 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Does any
 one have any info on how to find Vol 1 & 2 or the Best of Easy Tunes? >>

Speaking of hard to find CDs, I just got an email from CD Universe concerning
my order for "Dig It!"  Apparently they have given up or can't get this CD for
me.  Does anyone know how to get this much reccomended CD?

- - Michele


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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:28:41 -0400
From: Irwin Chusid <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RAYMOND SCOTT big band

The BEAU HUNKS Orchestra (23-piece) will be staging
a series of RAYMOND SCOTT big band concerts
in Holland this month and during October.

If you plan to be in Europe during this period, the dates and cities
are:
        21 SEP    Amsterdam  (Nwe De la Mar Theater)
        25 SEP    Den Haag  (Dr. Anton Philipszaal)
        02 OCT   Heerlen  (Stadsschouwburg)
        10 OCT   Amsterdam  (Bimhuis)
        16 OCT   Utrecht  (Vredenburg)

The repertoire will consist of the BHO's own arrangements of a number of
familiar Scott tunes and a fair share of rarely-heard (and in some
cases, never publicly performed) works.

            --Irwin Chusid

[let me know if you would like to be on
      an infrequent Raymond Scott mailing list]
http://www.raymondscott.com
____________________________________
Program:
  Powerhouse
  Dreary Weather on Sixth Avenue
  Tia Juana
  Two Young Lads in Saxophone School
  Christmas Night in Harlem
  In an 18th Century Drawing Room
  War Dance for Wooden Indians
  Hertz Theme
  Mexican Jumping Bean
  Kodachrome
  Rococo
  Carrier Pigeon
  Egyptian Summer (a.k.a. Love Dance)
  The Bullfighter & His Piccolo
  Minor Prelude
  Fifinella
  Naked City
  Birdseed Special
  Secret Agent
  Symphony Under the Stars
  Boy Scout in Switzerland
  Confusion Among a Fleet of Taxicabs
         Upon Meeting With A Fare

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 21:49:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Wild Sounds: Exotica and Post-War Culture

Recently we were discussing Dr. Rebecca Leydon's paper/presentation
"Pastoral Predicaments in Space-Age Bachelor Pad Music." I've been able to
contact her. I sent her a copy of Ross's Exotica FAQ -- here's some info
from her in return:

>Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:22:50 -0400
>Subject: Re: Exotica FAQ version 1.2

>Thanks for the FAQ which I enjoyed reading.  I was looking at the "required
>reading" section and I thought that you might be interested in a forthcoming
>anthology of essays called(I think)  *Wild Sounds: Exotica and Post-War
>Culture.*  It's a bunch of essays by various authors each writing on a major
>exotica figure (including a piece by me on Les Baxter and Yma Sumac.)  The
>book is supposed to come out sometime this fall.  If you're curious you
>could contact the editor, Philip Hayward: PHAYWARD@xxx




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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 00:59:31 -0400
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 20

Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is 1 hour of full galactical wonder, and can be
heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada.
Comments and questions welcome.

Space Bop #16 - Soundscapes

Augusto Martelli:  Nanaue  "Easy Tempo #5"

Eddie Caruso & The Five:  Smoky  "Mo'Plen 2000"

Tony Mimms:  Vuca (Wake Up)  "Easy Tempo #5"

Maurice Popp:  Oh Happy Day  "Power Pop"

Girogio Moroder:  Mah Na Mah Na  "Arriva La Bomba"

Arling, Cameron And Swarte:  Tsja Tsja  "Sound Shopping"

Jean-Jacques Perrey & David Chazam:  Analog Dialog  "Eclektronics"

Pierre Bastien:  Les Eres d'Exil de Liszt  "Eggs Air Sister Steel"

Pascal Comelade:  Baile De Salon  "Zumzum-Ka"

Luis Enriquez Escalov:  Montreal Non Stop  "Easy Tempo #5"

Amon Tobin:  Bitter & Twisted  "Bricolage"

Attilio Mineo:  Mile-A-Minute Monorail  "Man In Space With Sounds"

Lounge Lizards:  Yak  "Queen Of All Ears"

The Orchestre Murphy:  The Bantry Dante  "Smut"

The Orchestre Murphy:  Sorcery  "Smut"


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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 01:28:10 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Those hard to find cds

At 7:27 PM -0400 9/18/98, [e-mail] wrote:

>Speaking of hard to find CDs, I just got an email from CD Universe concerning
>my order for "Dig It!"  Apparently they have given up or can't get this CD for
>me.  Does anyone know how to get this much reccomended CD?

I heard that it is out of print; a used copy may show up somewhere, but it
will be tricky as that disc did not receive as good a distribution as the
other Karminsky produced CD's.

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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:15:19 +0100
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki room context

><< So all Disney's gotta do is a Tiki-flavored movie (animated or not) and the
> Tiki Room would be back with a vengeance.

Funny you should say this because Disney is working on a new animated film
where the main character is a wooden idol. It is set in Mexico and based
around another fairy tale (I forget which). BUT the idol speaks and is very
tiki-esque apparently...I think it is scheduled for release next year or 2000...

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:39:54 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki room context

[e-mail] wrote:

> It does seem curious that with all the popular commercials on
> television using "lounge/exotica" signifiers/references/themes that Disney
> wouldn't know about the revival - and figuring there's got to be at least SOME
> hipsters working there

Yes there are! Two great artists who designed a show about Tiki in the Anaheim
museum, which is pretty close to Disneyland. It was marvelous. They built and
painted decorational stuff like an entrance etc. It had this typical very
professional Disney look. Can you imagine! Super cool. Thing is: These two guys
have a limited influence within a corporation as big and hierarchic as the Disney
corporation.

> It would be great if they'd reinstall the rides.  I will really miss the tiki
> room if they tear it down.  Last time I was there, I tried to photograph it in
> 3-D and it was a really gloomy day and the pics came out either too dark or
> drab.

Someone from the list - forgot who it was - says he has a complete video, maybe
he wants to write you personally...

And then, again, there still is Tokyodisneyland!

Mo


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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:16:54 +0000
From: the curator <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Saint theme

If anyone knows of a good compilation CD with the original version of the
Saint Theme by Edwin Astley could they spill the beans (I'm aware of the
soundtrack to the TV series on "Razor & Tie" records, which incidentally
you can hear in its entirety in RealAudio format at
http://www.broadcast.com ) but i only really need the theme itself ...

...on the same tip, i recently heard a new comp of 60's TV themes on Sequel
called "The Avengers & Other TV Themes" but it's pretty poor.

Especially disappointing is the "Doctor Who Theme", whose original version
by Ron Grainer & BBC Radiophonic Workshop is the only one you need (though
the version on this comp does appear to contain a theremin).

Likewise the version of "The Saint" theme  by Cyril Stapleton & the
Eliminators whose version here lacks the spooky female vocals of the superb
original by Edwin Astley.

Sem Sinatra




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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:00:42 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A&E goes to Hell

A&E's "Biography" (8:00pm & Midnight, eastern standard time) is embarking on a
theme week that starts off unusual, but winds up in their usual rut.

Sunday: The Marquis de Sade
Monday: Satan
Tuesday: Jeffrey Dahmer
Wednesday: Nero
Thursday: Hitler, Part 1
Friday: Hitler, Part 2

Looking ahead, I saw Wayne Newton listed for (I believe) October 7.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:06:11 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) The Saint theme

>>>If anyone knows of a good compilation CD with the original version of the
Saint Theme by Edwin Astley could they spill the beans<<<

I've found two, both British imports:
* "This Is Cult Fiction Royale," (Virgin/Circa) a 2-CD set of 47 cult TV &
movie themes; and
* "Top TV Themes," (Castle) a 18-track collection of British themes (includes
The Avengers, Thunderbirds, Dr. Who) that you can get from Collector's Choice
Music for under $10. Call 1-800-923-1122.

>>>...on the same tip, i recently heard a new comp of 60's TV themes on Sequel
called "The Avengers & Other TV Themes" but it's pretty poor.<<<

What makes it so bad? I'm curious as to what other themes are on it.

- --Rod


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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:26:11 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A&E goes to Hell

> A&E's "Biography" (8:00pm & Midnight, eastern standard time) is embarking

Sorry, I meant eastern DAYLIGHT time. Duuuh.

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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:42:17 +0200
From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Pocket Theremin

- ----------------------------
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:43:20 +0100
From: "Charles Moseley"

>warm, thick, vocal sound, it produces a thin squeal - It definately
>responds to hand movements but the effect is like turning a pitch control
>up and down on a smoke alarm - nasty.
>Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeee
>eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, Aaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
>If you need a Theremin, join the Theremin mailing list, buy a kit and build
>it yourself. I don't think they're expensive and I know that they sound
>alright.

Or you might try

http://www.swcp.com/~sells/mousing.htm

and turn your mouse into a Theremin!


Arjan




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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:53:54 +0100
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A&E goes to Hell

>A&E's "Biography" (8:00pm & Midnight, eastern standard time) is embarking on a
>theme week that starts off unusual, but winds up in their usual rut.
>
>Sunday: The Marquis de Sade
>Monday: Satan
>Tuesday: Jeffrey Dahmer
>Wednesday: Nero
>Thursday: Hitler, Part 1
>Friday: Hitler, Part 2

Oh, MAN! This just isn't fair living in the UK with no cable. I'd give my
soul to see "Biography" this week....

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:56:18 +0100
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Disneyland: Other

Well, I wrote a letter of complaint about the Submarine Voyage and this is
what I got in return...


>Dear Disneyland Guest:
>
>Thank you for your letter regarding the Submarine Voyage.  We always
appreciate
>it when our Guests care enough to share their thoughts and experiences with
us.
>Letters such as yours are welcomed by our staff as they assist us in
evaluating
>our operation and our success in creating a happy place for our Guests to
visit.
>
>
>As Walt Disney himself once said, "Disneyland will never be completed as
long as
>there is imagination left in the world."  Walt continually evaluated existing
>attractions in order to make changes, modifications, and occasionally close
>attractions to make way for new and exciting adventures. In keeping with our
>philosophy of making Disneyland exciting and ever changing, we are continually
>evaluating our attractions, closing some existing attractions and
developing new
>facilities to reflect progress and to maintain the interest of our visitors.
>
>Walt Disney Imagineering has already begun formulating preliminary design and
>conceptual plans for a new water-themed attraction scheduled to debut in
2003.
>The new attraction will use a future Disney animated film as its creative
>inspiration.  We are sure that you will agree that our Disney Imagineers
have an
>outstanding track record with creating exciting attractions that appeal to
>visitors of all ages. We hope that you will continue to follow the
developments
>of the Disneyland Resort.
>
>Once again, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns
>with us. We certainly appreciate your interest in the Magic Kingdom.  We hope
>that you will have the opportunity to visit Disneyland in the future and trust
>that your stay will be enjoyable in every way.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Dan Mc Kinney
>Guest Communications
>
>
>
>______________________________ Reply Separator
_________________________________
>Subject: Disneyland: Other
>Author:  [e-mail] at film-online-access
>Date:    9/7/98 2:48 AM
>
>
>I am writing this message to let you know how distressed I am to find that the
>Submarine Voyage is closing. This was perhaps my favourite attraction
during my
>trip to Disneyland in April of this year. I was planning to return to
Disneyland
>this winter, and now learn that there will be no place for me to "dive!". I
>understand that the Enchanted Tiki Room might be next. PLEASE don't do this.
>When I visited in April, I actually filled in a form at City Hall about
wishing
>there was Tiki Room merchandise. The older attractions is what gives
Disneyland
>it's charm. I never even got a chance to ride Mr. Toad's Wild Ride last time,
>and now I hear it's closing at DisneyWorld. There are many fans of Disney out
>here, outside the Magic Kingdom that wish to relive the past Disney as well as
>Tomorrow. Please keep our wishes in mind...
>



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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:42:57 +0100
From: "Phil Clark" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) minidisc swaps, anyone?

hey groovesters

Have just purchased a minidisc Walkman - GREAT machine, I'm totally sold on
it, and this is coming from a staunch vinyl lover.

anyway, anyone else out on the list got one of these gizmos, and fancy
setting up a disc swap of something like

- - groovy hammond sounds
- - brit psychedelia si-ki-de-lia
- - coool jazz

to mention but a few loves of mine

Just thought I'd ask!

groovily
phil





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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:16:30 -0400
From: Mark Renwick <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Celesta

The celesta (not spelled "celeste") is standard equipment in
the percussion section of symphony orchestras.  As
previously mentioned, it's a floor-standing keyboard
instrument in which hammers strike metal bars rather than
strings.  Ferrante & Teicher frequently augmented their
prepared piano sounds with the celesta.

- --Mark Renwick
  Jacksonville, Florida, USA
  [e-mail]
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:48:01 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Nostalgia, a new aspect

Lying in the bath tub after reading Mark Twain's ultra-sarcastical
remarks about operas in general and Richard Wagner (the music of his
time when he lived in Germany for some years) in particular, I developed
a new aspect on this Nostalgia discussion. I'm calling it my musical
theory of relativity.

Studying musical styles and epochs of the past enables us to see the
present Zeitgeist in music as relative. We already know now, that the
musical forms people believe in momentarily, because they simply don't
know anything else, will definitely change one day. I'm so shure that
the absence of melodies, harmonies  and song-writing structures will not
be forever that I see the music of the presence as a musical past
already now.

So I have to modify what I said about this list and what the people of
this list are really into: Our involvement in the music of the past is
not a nostalgic longing for the past but a very serious and accurate way
of comparing and extending our point of view about music.

Mo



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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:49:18 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki room context

> Hey, I was at that Anaheim show.  It was like when I first found the tiki
> scene here.  That was an incredible exhibit.  I am glad there are at least 2
> voices at Disney even if they have limited influence.  I am sad to hear of the
> closing.  Do you know when that is scheduled to happen?
>
> - Michele

It's not yet final. We still fight! You can sign this petition:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/1877/savetikiroom.html

Mo



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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:49:37 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A&E goes to Hell

m.ace wrote:

> A&E's "Biography" (8:00pm & Midnight, eastern standard time) is embarking on a
> theme week that starts off unusual, but winds up in their usual rut.
>
> Sunday: The Marquis de Sade
> Monday: Satan
> Tuesday: Jeffrey Dahmer
> Wednesday: Nero
> Thursday: Hitler, Part 1
> Friday: Hitler, Part 2
>
> Looking ahead, I saw Wayne Newton listed for (I believe) October 7.

Sorry, ignorant: What is A&E?

Mo



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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:49:53 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Disneyland: Other

> >I am writing this message to let you know how distressed I am to find that the
> >Submarine Voyage is closing. This was perhaps my favourite attraction
> during my
> >trip to Disneyland in April of this year. I was planning to return to
> Disneyland
> >this winter, and now learn that there will be no place for me to "dive!". I
> >understand that the Enchanted Tiki Room might be next. PLEASE don't do this.
> >When I visited in April, I actually filled in a form at City Hall about
> wishing
> >there was Tiki Room merchandise. The older attractions is what gives
> Disneyland
> >it's charm. I never even got a chance to ride Mr. Toad's Wild Ride last time,
> >and now I hear it's closing at DisneyWorld. There are many fans of Disney out
> >here, outside the Magic Kingdom that wish to relive the past Disney as well as
> >Tomorrow. Please keep our wishes in mind...

If this letter doesn't touch their hearts then they don't have one.

Tristesse....

Mo



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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:16:09 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A&E goes to Hell

> Sorry, ignorant: What is A&E?

Ah, sorry about that. It's a US commercial cable channel. A&E stands for "Arts
& Entertainment" -- it was originally supposed to be a "high-brow" outlet, but
eventually drifted into such odd things as gruesome true-crime shows. Also lots
of British tv imports. And for a while there, they showed so many WWII
documentaries that they were sarcastically dubbed, "The Hitler Channel"
(explaining my remark about their "usual rut").

"Biography" is their big success story, a nightly hour profiling assorted
famous people, including some of interest to this list (Jayne Mansfield, Ernie
Kovacs, etc). I find it pretty cheesy myself, but they do have some nice old
film footage sometimes (albeit chopped into tiny pieces and overdubbed with
narration). The thought of a Satan episode is pretty surreal, but I think
they've already done Dracula and Frankenstein, so what the Hell -- why not?

For their *own* point of view, see their website here:
http://www.aande.com/

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:54:46 -0500
From: Robert Sloane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Carousel of Progress

There was indeed a Carousel of Progress at Disneyland, and it was in the
type of building mentioned here.  It definitely changed to an attraction
called "America Sings"--I'm not really sure of the exact year, but I'm
guessing around the bicentennial.

Rob


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>
>In a message dated 98-09-15 08:18:23 EDT, Rcbrooksod writes:
>
><< Did they have a Carosel of Progress (sponsored by GE) at Disneyland.  I
>absolutely loved that.  The building was round and the outer part rotated.
>  >>
>
>I guess you did not see this in Yesterland?  So I would assume it didn't
>exist.  But I do remember when I was younger they had this carousel-like
>building where there was this walkway that rotated around the building as the
>building seemed to go in the opposite direction.  My memory is foggy on this,
>but I think it was a ".... America" ride.  It was over in Tomorrowland I'm
>pretty sure.  Maybe is USED to be a Carousel of Progress?  Does anyone
>remember what it is that I am referring to?
>
>- Michele



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