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exotica-digest         Friday, August 7 1998         Volume 02 : Number 183



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn)
(exotica) Collection Database
Re:  Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats
Re:  (exotica) Who'se calling who tedious?
Re:  Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Re:  Re: (exotica) Whither Vik?
(exotica) Ed Lincoln
(exotica) Re: Suspicious motives.... (& a landfill near you)
Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg
RE: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes
Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn)
(exotica) Funny Thought for the Day
(exotica) Re: Gainsbourg
Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Re: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes
(exotica) The waiter from Ipanema
(exotica) Re: Cleaning Again
Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse
(exotica) Re: Whither Vik?
(exotica) Re: Question List
(exotica) the Net vs. the Record Biz
Re: (exotica) Formation 60
Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day
(exotica) Exotica Question List
(exotica) Collection Database
Re: (exotica) Collection Database
(exotica) Question List
Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg

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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 01:16:06 -0700
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn)

>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
We're expecting a baby boy in December.  Haven't decided on a name yet.
Suggestions?


Juan Garcia Davidson

I was seriously pushing for Miles Davis Grandia when naming
my boy (now three. handsome, smart. thankyouverymuch)

Hmmm... Baxter Denny Davidson.....uhhhh... Serge Davidson....

I'll get back to ya.


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 01:31:54 -0700
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Collection Database

So who's got a collectors database going?

I have been sooo busy lately, but dammit, I have got to start getting the
vinyl organized
and entered into a database.

I really need to get some lists of albums compiled for several projects I
am working on.
I also have promised information to people about some of my records, and it
occurs to me that this would be the perfect time to get the database
going... I'd just start entering
the things I need to compile...I can add the rest later. This will save me
from having to rekey  a lot of stuff.

So let's make with the recommendations. Also, if anyone wishes to share
their database template, well you just go right ahead.  I am particularly
interested in a system that would let me search large fields of notes
(possibly
for sections of liners) sice I often need to search for things not easily
found in
straight title,artist,label, etc.. fields.

This should be interesting...

Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER.
They are just clumped in the basement (my rumpus room) in "groups."
Some on shelves. Some on chairs. Tons on the floor. MAN, am I going
to be busy.


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:44:41 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats

Piero Piccioni----the very name---I love to say it into a micorphone---think
of it---Piero Piccioni...say it five times fastttt...MMMMMMMMM...rambling
after the disco/Jimmy Botticelli


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:48:42 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Who'se calling who tedious?

how can I get a gig a McGill?.......I wanna physically plan.......


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:56:49 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores

record storage--now THERE's a thread---anyone for sewing?


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 05:01:58 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Whither Vik?

will vik himself address his reasons for shutting down ?


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:18:52 +0100
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Subject: (exotica) Ed Lincoln

OK,  seeing as how I got no response at all about this,  I assume no-one
else has come across it.  What a great record.  Sort of mambo / Bossa
Nova rhythm ( I don't know,  I've never had a dance lesson in my life)
with a lovely meaty Hammond,  trumpet and kazoo (oh, yes).  There are
vocals,  but they're not really featured,  more a chorus thats kept
fairly well down in the mix.  The sleeve just says 'Ed Lincoln' on the
front and spine,  so I would assume its the first eponymous LP from Ed,
who does seem to be a real person as he co-wrote several of the songs.
Its a nice cover with 3 couples (I counted) dancing.  The label looks a
bit blurred so I suppose it may be a bootleg,  but its on LP and CD so
maybe not.  As I said before the man in the shop told me it was popular
with Acid Jazz DJs for one of the tracks on it.

Anyway, these are the details I have
Ed Lincoln
Produced by Nilo Sergio
on the Musidisc label from Rio de Janeiro

The track listing

O GANSO   (not the same as the Astrud Gilberto song)
E O CIDE
QUERIDA
ALI TEM
O AMOR QU TU GUARDEI
BALANCO AZUL

MEU QUERIDO AMOR
YA-YA
CARAMBA
COCHISE
EU NAO VOU MAIS
SE TIVER DE SER

definitely one for the cheese lovers.

Have fun

Il Maestro Con Queso

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http://www.sgillitt.dircon.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm


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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 02:40:01 PDT
From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Suspicious motives.... (& a landfill near you)

>Excuse me, are you saying that your primary motivation for collecting
"lounge"
>music is that you are recycling junk culture?  I would think the
primary
>motive is you like the music and THEN maybe you think you've done a
good deed
>by reclaiming/recylcing the old vinyl.
>
>I welcome response from others on this question.
>
>- Michele
>

NO! i don't mean its some kind of environmental concern, that concept
that i might be saving plastic from a landfill has never occurred to me,
i mean it will go there when i die anyway. No, my point is that i got
into this music as a reaction to the regimented consumerism of popular
culture. This is me deciding what i consider to be good and enjoyable,
for whatever mixed and not at all laudable motives, rather than a media
or peer group conception of cool, This opens up decades of popular music
which has been neglected and discarded. For example people often
distinguuish 'proper' jazz from some of what we like. I love bop etc.
but to accept that as the sole history of jazz/ popular music is to have
an 'official' history, like the individualist consumer version of
maoism. Which my friends and i used to call the 'happy shopper' society
(after a brand of tacky products).
i always liked to think what we were doing was as close to putting the
music first as was possible.
hope my motives pass muster....
rob

P.S. What's the Larry Page Orchestra like? A friend saw a CD called up ,
up and away and asked me was it any good.


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:21:32 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg

>This made me wonder, has anyone heard or does anyone own the album of
>jazz interpretations of Serge Gainsbourg's songs which is mentioned in
>the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd?  I don't remember who the artist was, but
>it was a reasonably recent (1994 or something) release from France.
>Anyone?
>
>-------------------
>What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway?

It's very jazzy. I know that sounds naff,but that is all I can say about it.
I much prefer "Comic Strip" from that trio.

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:05:57 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes

MO,

Are they painted, or is it bad lighting?  I also noticed that there is a
shadow on her left (your right) lower eyelid from her top lashes, so maybe
you are seeing shadows, yes?

BTW, I did notice the hair pin, kind of blows the mystery of the look a
little.

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman



> I just started to paint the Denny's "Exotica" Cover (LRP 3034 Mono
> version, of course) in oil and what do I see on a closer look? Sandy
> Warner is wearing painted eyelashes! Painted on the skin above her eyes.
> I guess the girls in the list had seen this right away. I never saw a
> girl do that in real life. Exotic! It also looks as if this
> vaginal-symbolic piece of silver on her forehead is fixed to her hair
> with an ordinary safety pin.
>


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:14:41 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn)

In a message dated 98-08-07 06:19:41 EDT, you write:

<< 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
 We're expecting a baby boy in December.  Haven't decided on a name yet.
 Suggestions?
  >>

too bad it ain't a girl -- i have always been fond of Yma.  Or for the banal:
Amy but you could nick name here Yma.


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:20:23 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day

OK, the weekend is upon us.  I hope everybody has a good one.

Ready to smile???

Who out there remembers putting a 45 on each ear and both wearing and
listening to your music at the same time?

Robert


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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 09:14:45 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Re: Gainsbourg

>What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway?

I adore it - very jazzy, but still accessible, and his singing is really
great.
Up there with 'mondo morricone' and rhino's 'soundtracks with a twist' as
one of my favorite CD releases.

>Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there on the list?
I would love to be, but have never seen ONE of his records at a price I
could afford.

regards

Jonny

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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:49:26 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database

>So who's got a collectors database going?

Boy, am I EVER SO interested in this thread.  I've got a really irritating
completist-archivist streak & have been giving the notion of a database an
awful lot of thought lately.  The idea of data input for what I've already
got is a bit daunting.

Here's another thought: I'd love a db system that would allow me to easily
cut&paste intact track listings onto cassette labels.  I do an awful lot of
taping & goofy label making.

Here's an embarassing admission:  I'm one of those people who makes a good
cassette recording for nearly every LP that might merit repeated listening.
And then the vinyl gets stored away til I need it for a compilation or for
a replacement tape.  Or cover appreciation.  Oy.  That means lotsa LPs and
the added burden of lotsa tapes.  I've pretty much always done that ...
even back in the day when it meant <blush> tapes of Ultravox, Waitresses &
Aztec Camera to play while I drove around suburban Miami in my white Camero
with my hair meticulously feathered back.  But, that was last year (har har
har ...).

>Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER.

I've got mine stashes in about a dozen or so milk crates under some stairs
& pretty much arranged ABC (did I mention I'm pretty obsessive?) by a few
broad categories ... but, I did the bulk of my acquiring unguided & learned
as I went (there was a long time where I seriously thought I was the only
weirdo into "this stuff"), so I'd probably re-categorize them now.  Think
it goes something like male & female vocals, latin mambo & cha cha (think i
probably put my bossa  stuff in there, would mebbe change that), swing &
swing vocals, Burt & Friends (including A&M crap), 70s garbage, keyboard
cheese, box sets, percussion, exotica, old compilations, comedy/spoken
word/misc, gogo/discotheque/swingin' 60s, girlgroups, bonehead vocal
choruses, K-tel-ish collections, and misc EZ bandleaders/groups/loungy
stuff.  And, a really, really big, towering "tobefiled" pile.  Really big.

I have plans to somehow, someday do the shelving bit (all shelving now goes
for books & I've got a similiar capacity problem there), but will probably
wait until my present lease runs out & try to get a place with an extra
"music" room.  Yes, that's right, I think record-collecting has begun to
dictate my housing decisions!! Plus, I just bought a set of old vibes that
are still in my office & I must get them home cause people keep walking by
& playing them with pens & keys (ouch!), but I have no place to put them
....

I ran across an ad for shelving units fit for the serious LP collector.
They were the right size & were sturdy & not a bad price at all.  So, I put
it aside for later & I can't find it now and don't remember where I saw it
...

I'd love to hear how other folks handle these issues ...

- --chris cook





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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 15:55:00 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes

No, you can see the real eyeleashes, they are almost in front of the
eyeballs. the painted lashes above the eyes could possibly be painted on
the photo and not on her skin, but I doubt it.

I don't think, becoming aware of the little tricks that artist use,
doesn't spoil the mystery. Instead for me the mystery increases when I
see things that I haven't seen before, like discovering a little hidden
secret.

MO*



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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:58:01 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The waiter from Ipanema

Hey, by the way ...

I was in New York last weekend & ended up in Little Brazil looking for
dinner and chose (of course!) to eat in a place called Ipanema.  Good food;
curiously, though, no music.

I had to laugh because after I ordered my meal (including the fried chicken
dish frango bossa nova ... the only real cutesy thing on the menu), the
waiter asked if I was from Brazil 'cause my accent was so good.
Bah-hahaha.  I, in no way, know any Portugese whatsoever ... I was too
embarassed to admit that it was just from listening to too much
Jobim/Gilberto, etc. (!!!)

Incidentally, the meal was really great ...




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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:25:14 -0400
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Cleaning Again

<<
2 parts distilled water
1 part denatured alcohol

I've used scraps of old white t-shirts for rags.

I don't know about long-term effects on the vinyl, but it sure does cut
through
crusty mold.
>>

See, my guess is that if you use alcohol on the LP before every play, sure,
you're in trouble.  But if you use it *once* to get rid of all the grime,
then treat it nice from then on out, I bet you'd be okay.

I mean, come on, that big speil suggests cleaning and vacuuming your LPs
before every play.  Jeez.


Peter
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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:23:33 -0400
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse

<<
But since you seem intent on finding out my real identity, okay...

I'm John Tesh.

Nat
>>

Wouldn't it be funny if he really was?

Peter
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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:18:25 -0400
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Whither Vik?

<<
Subject: (exotica) Whither Vik?

They are missing the point when they think www broadcasts hurt record
sales.  Its obivious that you buy more music because of what you are
exposed to.  I want to thank Vic for having such cool taste to put
that great music on his site.  Vic's lounge has turned me on to such a
variety of new music that I couldn't wait to go out and buy it.   I
doubt this law will help the record industry.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck
>>



Duh.
Don Tiki, L'Atome, Action +, and TV Dinners all have Vik to thank for
introducing me to their music.  And Ben Folds Five, Beck, Fiona Apple,
Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Jamiroquai and a few other big name bands all can
thank the propagation of MP3s.  Of course, there were an equal number that
I've NOT bought the album for, but hey, I never would have bought the
others either, without hearing off-album tracks.

But these guys don't care about us discriminating music buyers.  We are not
the world.  The rest of the US buys $18 CDs for two cuts and thinks they're
happy.  Tons of people I know have discs that they "like one or two songs"
and just sit through the rest.  Or even not, just skipping to the songs
they like and then going on to the next disc.
How annoying!
Anyway, we can only pray that this spreads to the new generation who are
accustomed to only getting the music they want.
Imagine every title being digitally available!
No such thing as out of print!

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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:47:50 -0400
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Question List

Well, the pump slurped up all the water--now we are dealing with That
Smell. And hey, now *I* want to have a little fun for a minute here too. . .

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

Well, Margaret did give me a cowbell during the darkest days of my Enoch
Light Cha Cha phase. . . But honestly, no. Too scarred by childhood viola
lessons, I'm afraid.

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

_United States Navy Steel Drum Band Plays "Blowin' In The Wind"_ (found in
about 1983). Still one of the odder LPs in my collection. Not exactly
exotica, but this this completely accidental flea-market purchase first
alerted me there might be some other interesting things lurking in those
piles of musty old records. . .

> 3. This list could help you more by...

I love reading people's descriptions of wild music still out there, that I
don't know about yet. Or even if I do own it myself, it's interesting to
hear someone else's take on an artist. (Slightly hypocritical here--
haven't posted a "finds" list of my own for months.)

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Cameras older than me. Vintage appliances. Abberant clip art. Cocktail
glassware. Should I include all the obsolete Macintoshes?

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

Pere Ubu, Twist, Hawaiian slack key, Bad Brains, any record where the
musical style is performed by the "wrong" ethnic group. . . Which reminds
me, does anyone out there know the name of the artist somtimes referred to
as "the Chinese Patsy Cline"? I just have 2 songs on a foreign comp (no
english notes), but she's awesome. . .

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

Mmmm,  well there's a funny story under #8. . .

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> Tell us more!

Well, I was a bit irked when my good CD player died after five years, while
meanwhile vinyl happily marches on. But I often end up being the defender
of digital--I think there are a lot of misconceptions about it. (I may have
posted once about my discovery that you can drill a 3/32"  hole through a
CD and it will probably play without audible glitches)

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

Now this is the funny part. I first heard about the exotica mailing list
though Joseph Holmes' old SABPM website. Just to see what the list was all
about, I surfed over to download some of the old archives. I noticed that
one particular month was a HUGE number of kilobytes compared to all the
others, so naturally I was curious and looked at that one. Well it was huge
because that was the very month Lounge Laura had inaugurated this
questionaire.

When I got to the FEZ question, I gasped--for at that very moment, my
beloved maroon Shriner fez was SITTING RIGHT ON THE MONITOR! I began to
cackle, "At last! I have found my people!!"

(I also own a very gangsterish copper-colored suit, which always arouses
much comment.)

> 9. Shaken or stirred?

Or straight from the brown paper bag.

> 10. I clean my LPs with ...

Ah well, now that would be telling, wouldn't it?

> 11. My home page URL is:

Not actually a homepage, but you can discover the awful truth about
my closet geekiness at:

http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb/roscope/index.html

> 12. I have a Licence To ...

Well, my business card does say I'm a Witch Doctor--but actually I practice
without a license.



Cheers,


 --Ross

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|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:55:21 -0400
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the Net vs. the Record Biz

Conspiracy theorists take note:

I've heard it suggested that the proposed 96kHz/24 bit standard for DVD
audio is RIDICULOUS overkill technically (20-bit/48 kHz being essentially
flawless if implemented properly). But 96/24 would make the "audiophile"
music format such a byte hog that only big corporations could afford the
equipment to work with it.

Of course the joke will be on them, when by 2003 a Palm Pilot will be
perfectly capable of doing it. . .

Yours in Uber-Hi-Fi,

 --Ross

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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 03:48:01 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Formation 60

>> >> * Various Artists: "Formation 60"
>> >>       CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998
>> >Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more
>> >about this?
>> >I appreciate your help.

>Basically, I'd like to know if it's music recorded in 50's or 60's or
>it's contemporary. I guess the second. Is that right? And who's
>playing in it?

It's from 1957-69 and features MANFRED-LUDWIG SEXTETT,TOBY FISCHELSCHER &
GUENTER WILK, MICHAEL FRITZEN QUARTETT, ORCHESTER KLAUS LENZ, VOLKMAR
SCHMIDT COMBO, THEO SCHUMANN COMBO,WERNER PFUELLER QUINTETT, and MODERN JAZZ
BIG BAND 65..Hope this helps..

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:27:02 -0700
From: Gary Mattingly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database

Hello,

I use Keep It Compact database, it is at:
http://www.keepitcompact.com/main.htm

Some other Database tools can be found at:
http://www.cddb.com:80/downloads/index.html

Keep It Compact has a lot of fields and you can add a few of your own to
be searchable.  I don't know about searching the notes/comments though.

The other database tools might have such a capability but I haven't checked
them out for that particular option.  My database is still pretty small and I
started with the blues sections as opposed to the lounge section.

Gary Mattingly

At 01:31 AM 8/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>So who's got a collectors database going?
>
>I have been sooo busy lately, but dammit, I have got to start getting the
>vinyl organized and entered into a database.
>
>So let's make with the recommendations. Also, if anyone wishes to share
>their database template, well you just go right ahead.  I am particularly
>interested in a system that would let me search large fields of notes
>(possibly for sections of liners) sice I often need to search for things
not easily
>found in straight title,artist,label, etc.. fields.

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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:54:08 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day

That's a new one on me, but I do recall using my gatefold lps, in my
teen years, mind you, and winnowing stems and seeds from useful product.
A very uncommon practice, I am sure. This was back when it was thought
audio-cassettes were going replace vinyl and every Soundesign console
came with an 8-track.


>> >Who out there remembers putting a 45 on each ear and both wearing
and
>> >listening to your music at the same time?
>> >
>> >Robert


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:06:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Question List

I can't believe that I'm doing this. This exotica list is very strange
in a very wonderful way.

 1. Are you a musician?   No

 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? In the 70's my
Aunt Lou gave me Quiet Villiage by Martin Denny.  My favorite memory
of this album is when we went to Tikal, Guatemala around 1978. We took
the speakers outside the van & played it really loud in the jungles of
Tikal.  We can't imagine what the tourists thought.
  I also recieved from my aunt Lou the great Maria Bonita album by
Prez Prado and a collection of big band with the great Xavier Cugat
doing his best song, Blen Blen Blen, with the marvelous Miguelito
Valdez on vocals.  Imagine seeing that version of the Cugie band live
at the Waldorf Astoria around 1940.
 We still play Quiet Village every year when our Carnival Club toasts
the mayor of New Orleans, this song plays in the background (before
Chaquita Banana)

3. This list could help you more by...  Convincing Vic or someone
else> to keep Vic's Lounge alive.  Viva Vic's Lounge!

 4. Other exotica/things you collect- tropical Tiki clothes, statues,
& other decorative things to wear on Mardis Gras day.  I also collect
exotica ornaments for my Christmas tree.

 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like.   I'm serious, here goes: I
am now buying Indie Pop the most after exotica.  However I still like
Soca from Trinadad, Zouc, Oldies pop,  Soucous, Compass, merengue,
late 60's,  early cuban music, Texas swing(Bob Wills is the King),
late 60's early 70's country rock, disco, jazz, fusion(especialy
Weather Report), classical(prefer vocals),  early new age, early rap,
early 80's & bluegrass. I know I left something out, oh yeah, Cowboy
music & occasional alternative bands.

6. What are you just dying to tell us?
 I think all genres of music have some exotica in them. In other words
exotica is in the ear of the beholder.

 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound
quality consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed
clarity of CDs? Tell us more!
 I think that 78's have potentially  the best sound quality, followed
by 12 inch 45s &33,  45 singles, lps,  8 tracs, cassetts and finally
cds.
 The big advances in sound have been convience.  Cds are the easiesl
to play and they don't skip, but they have a shorter life span then
vinyl.

8. Own a fez?  NO. other lounge-wear of which you are proud?  Grass
skirts on my head, shoulders and waist on Mardis Gras Day.

9. Shaken or stirred?  Shake shake shake,  shake shake shake,  shake
my.........Shake my...........

10. I clean my LPs with ...distilled water and an old disc washer brush.

11. My home page URL is: The exotica list is my home.

12. I have a Licence To ...get another Visa card to buy more albums.


Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:08:11 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Collection Database

At 09:49 AM 8/7/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>So who's got a collectors database going?

>Here's another thought: I'd love a db system that would allow me to easily
>cut&paste intact track listings onto cassette labels.  I do an awful lot of
>taping & goofy label making.

The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging
and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One
(or more) of them may work for y'all.

<http://www.old-time.com/softw.html>

- -Lou




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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:19:37 -0700
From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database

>
>The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging
>and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One
>(or more) of them may work for y'all.


I've found great resources for music collections on download.com.
Generally, there's not much freeware, but lots of shareware and
limited-time full programs.  More options for pc's (as usual), but the Mac
ones look really nice.

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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:28:38 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Question List

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
I have played piano, cello, bass, acoustic and electric, guitar and
harmonica, in almost every case with enthusiasm outstripping technique.

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
A set of 78's of Yma Sumac owned by my Aunt and Uncle, Love for Sale or
Thermopylae by Stan Kenton owned by my parents.

> 3. This list could help you more by...
Post those reviews!  It's a great way to learn (although, some of you like
some people more than I do!).

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
My wife likes souvenir shot glasses, between the two of us we have about
700 videotapes, including Ferrante and Teicher playing on an Ernie Kovacs
show (I just don't where that footage is!).

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
I listen to anything once.  That's my motto.  I am in a 60's Garage/R&B
band now, and I collect Film Music, Jazz, Blues and still like my old ELP
and Yes albums.  Scary secret is my Rick Springfield "Bop 'Til You Drop"
single, which I cannot blame on inebriation or impressing a date, because I
happen to like parts of the song (it was a buck!).  Even though I am
predisposed culturally to dislike the many varieties of U.S. Southern
accents (those were the ones I heard in the archival footage most and they
were usually spouting racist bile), not only have I moved to the South, I
have long enjoyed Western Swing and I bought a Hal Ketchum single.  Music
of almost any other country fascinates me and Classical Music, particularly
turn-of-the-century Russians (Stravinsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Prokoviev) is a
lot of fun.  I am, however, still pretty firm in my dislike of what hits
the Top 40, if for no other reason it tends to homogenize or exclude a
wonderful world of music to potentially wanting ears.  The great thing
about music is, no one said I had to pick.

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
Soylent Green is PEEOPLLLE...*Plop*

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> Tell us more!

I am going to annoy somebody by saying I have no true preference.  I have
great sentiment and enjoyment of vinyl (have you seen my site?) I kvelled
when they reissued Blue Note albums with extra tracks and they are smaller
and when you move, boy is that a factor.  I just wish that one had not
supplanted the other.  As for sound, if you bring up a good sounding CD I
can find a great sounding LP.  For those who forget the past, I can tell
you about perfectly horrible sounding LPs from major labels.  For those who
think that CD's all sound better, there are lousy ones, too.  There are
some things that are being issued or reissued on CD that are not being
issued on LP (which is a pity, however I can do little about it) and when
done right, can be great fun.  I have a CD here of the Pretty Things which
contains the album "Get the Picture?" and also 13 minutes of archival
footage!  Can't do that on an LP!  Imagine an Yma Sumac CD, with her
appearance in "Secret of the Incas" or an interview.  On the other hand, I
can tell you the extent of damage that a 45 suffered when I tried to put it
in my CD drive (it was NOT Rick Springfield.  Leave me be about that!)

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
No, I don't.  I feel that I don't look horribly good in clothes,
fortunately there is a woman I know that sharply disagrees!  So I married
her.  It was time to Fez the music and dance.

>8a. Sorry?
Yes.

> 9. Shaken or stirred?
I am both!

Was you ever bitten by a dead bee? (There is a right answer to this, too!)

> 10. I clean my LPs with ...
A Discwasher brush and a dollop of love.

> 11. My home page URL is:

http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar or
http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/main.html if you wish to skip the first part.

> 12. I have a Licence To ...
Thrill, baby!   Actually,
Be a Christian
Be a Motor Vehicle Operator
Broadcast in the US.
Spell it "License" but pronounce it "Licence".

Brian "Your nickname here! Phone [phone]" Phillips



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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:10:58 PDT
From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg

From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg

>>What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway?
>>
>It is my favorite of the three collections.  But you know Gainsbourg is
such a genius... Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there >on
the list?

i think it's a marvellous cd, lots of hilarious franglais (that would
make M. Jack froth at the gills) and faux american pastiches including
that (fake) albinoni adaggio done as a jazz tune on the vibes.
Unfortunately i'm not a big Gainsbourg collector, there just isn't a lot
to be found in ireland. Which brings me to a story. The other week i was
passing one of my favourite record shops and heard some serge coming
from the speakers. the guy working was not the usual so i hoped i might
pick up some serge vinyl for cheap. i shuffle in and flip through the
records (got the fistfull of dollars / for a few dollars more
soundtrack) and go up to the counter, as i'm paying i go 'hey that's
serge gainsbourg isn't it?' he tells me he put the tape on as it
attracted people in off the street, including the guitarist from sonic
youth just the day before....
Basically old serge records are hard to find round here.
yours covetously
rob

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