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exotica-digest          Friday, July 31 1998          Volume 02 : Number 171



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) SNL cast (was Re: More finds)
(exotica) Buffalo Bob Smith obit
(exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help!  CD skips!)
(exotica) Humming
Re: (exotica) More finds
(exotica) vibe-player humming disease
(exotica) Re: Laura's Q&A (and a blatant plea/plug too)
Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and all that
(exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 7.28.98
(exotica) Playlist Posting
(exotica) Las Vegas Grind
Re: (exotica) mallet-player humming disease
Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots
(exotica) Beware the blunted needle!
(exotica) The Love Boat
Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight?
Re: (exotica) technical question
Re: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help!  CD skips!)
Re: (exotica) Buffalo Bob Smith obit
Re: (exotica) Humming
(exotica) Augusto Alguero / Roberto Delgado
[Moritz R: Re: (exotica) technical question]
Re: (exotica) technical question
Re: (exotica) Augusto Alguero / Roberto Delgado
Re: (exotica) Humming & G. Gould
RE: (exotica) Rollcall

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:00:32 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) SNL cast (was Re: More finds)

At 11:22 AM 29/07/98 -0500, Indulis R Rutks wrote:

>I thought a lot of the original SNLers were in "Godspell". Did they do
>"Hair" as well?

Since this information is now enshrined as an official part of Canadian
history and is studied by all schoolchildren here, especially in Toronto, I
should know whether some of them were in the Toronto company of "Hair" as
well as "Godspell" which is the one some of them - including Paul Shaffer -
were certainly in.  Also Martin Short and Eugene Levy and other SCTV'ers.

But I don't have any kids in school and that part of the seventies is no
longer available in my memory banks for some reason.

I do however still remember what Lorne Michael's real name was when he went
to my high school.  But I'll only reveal that in private emails.  And given
that I'm not using MY real name on this list, I already feel guilty about
this.

Nat



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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:03:02 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Buffalo Bob Smith obit

     HENDERSONVILLE, N.C. (AP) -- ``Buffalo Bob'' Smith, the cowboy-suited host
of ``The Howdy Doody Show'' who delighted the baby boom generation in the
early years of television, died Thursday of cancer. He was 80.
    Smith, who lived in the western North Carolina town of Flat Rock, died at a
hospital in nearby Hendersonville, a family publicist said. The spokeswoman
for Sheila Feren Communications Ltd. in New York said the family would not
release further details.
    Fans knew the opening routine of the show by heart. Smith would shout out,
``What time is it?'' and the Peanut Gallery -- the kiddie studio audience --
would respond with glee: ``It's Howdy Doody time!''
    Even though the TV show went off the air in 1960 after 13 seasons and more
than 2,500 shows, Buffalo Bob and the freckle-faced marionette Howdy Doody
were more than celebrities to millions of baby boomers across the country.
    They became like a member of the family to their young fans -- and the
young at heart. Columnist Bob Greene wrote in 1987 that the show ``may have
been the most important cultural landmark for my generation.''
    ``I always liked kids,'' Smith, the father of three sons, said in an
interview in 1994. ``You can't kid a kid. They know right away if you like
them or not.''
    Among the show's other much-loved characters in the town Doodyville,
U.S.A.: Clarabell the Clown, Princess Summerfall Winterspring, Phineas T.
Bluster, Dilly Dally, Chief Thunderthud, Trapper John and Flubadub. One of
the performers who played Clarabell was Bob Keeshan, later to become TV's
Captain Kangaroo.
    ``No one knows how hard we worked all those years,'' Smith told People
magazine in 1987. ``Live TV is the most difficult thing to do in the world.
You're on the spot all the time.''
    Recovering from a 1954 heart attack that sidelined him for months, he
actually did some appearances from a specially built studio in the basement
of his home.
    After his return to the NBC studio in 1955, he told The Associated Press he
drove himself out of ``a feeling of pride. You're happy that people want you
to entertain them.'' He said the heart attack taught him to ``remember your
limits.''
    Smith was never bitter after the show went off the air, saying: ``We had a
good run. Besides, how many TV shows ever lasted 13 seasons?''
    In the 1960s, Smith retreated from his spot in front of the TV camera and
went back into radio -- this time as an owner. He bought three radio
stations and dabbled in real estate.
    In 1970, he got a call out of the blue from a student at the University of
Pennsylvania, who asked him to bring along Howdy Doody to the school and do
a show.
    ``I thought he was putting me on,'' Smith said.
    He wasn't.
    College students who had grown up watching Howdy Doody felt right at home
back in the Peanut Gallery. Over the next six years, Smith and his famous
sidekick made hundreds of appearances across the country.
    He and Mildred, his wife of more than 50 years, moved to Flat Rock in 1991
to spend more time on his other passion -- golf. He still made occasional
appearances at nostalgia events, bringing his marionette with the snub nose
and perpetual smile with him.
    Smith got his start on the radio and his nickname in his hometown, Buffalo,
N.Y.
    ``I did just about everything you could do on the radio when I was 15,'' he
said. Two years later, singer Kate Smith came to Buffalo.
    Smith joined her vaudeville act, playing the piano at times and other times
playing master of ceremonies. He was back working successfully in radio when
NBC was looking for someone in 1947 to be host of a children's television show.
    That was the birth of ``The Howdy Doody Show.''
    Despite his efforts to keep a low profile in later years, Smith's trademark
``Buffalo Bob'' voice always seemed to give him away.
    ``I walk into a supermarket and nobody recognizes me,'' he said in the 1994
interview. ``Then I open my mouth and somebody always says, `That's Buffalo
Bob!' ''
    Smith is survived by his wife Mildred; three children, Robin, 56, Ronald,
55, and Christopher, 43; and three grandchildren.
    A private memorial service is planned for family members and close friends,
but no date was given by the family publicist.




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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 22:56:50 UT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help!  CD skips!)

<<
Subject: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help!  CD skips!)

Do I get the idiot award or what?  First off, Thanks for  all the quick
responses to my problem!

But as it turns out it, isn't what's wrong with the CD, Its more like
something is wrong with me.  When Mike finally got home, I asked him about it
and he said I was looking on the wrong side of the CD.  All this time I
thought the picture side of the CD with the graphics, etc. was the part that
the CD "reads".  It turns out it is the bottom.  So all this time I've been
being careful with the wrong side of my CDs!  How could I have known? I didn't
get lessons with my first CD purchase that said how to clean the thing or what
side was what!  So I am the dummy here.  He saw 2 big goops on it and we wiped
it off and it is good as new.

Thanks to everyone who responded.  I'm relieved I won't have to shell out $15
to replace this CD.  I'm going to save all these good responses for the next
time it happens.
>>

Put it in the FAQ!

Peter



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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:08:05 UT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Humming

<<
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: "Humming"

> perhaps this is the trapped spirit of the old guy who actually owned and
> loved these records before I picked 'em up at the thrift shops
>
Or maybe it is that etheric low frequency turntable feedback...:)

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
>>

No, it's definitely Lyman or someone standing right behind his while he's
playing.
It's on the Taboo 2 *CD* as well.

It's pretty funny.
I have a CD of Glenn Gould playing the Goldberg Variations and for a long time I
kept hearing these weird songs that spooked me out, then I suddenly realized I
only heard them when I listened to that CD, and sure enough, it's Gould humming
along, out of tune.
So weird.

Peter


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:43:46 -0600
From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds

On Wed, Jul 29, 1998 at 11:33:52AM +0000, Ron Grandia wrote:

> Interesting. I Looooove to mix Moroder's "Chase" with Donna Summer's "I
> feel love" It mixes seamlessly and the two together create this
> otherworldly phasing sound.

Hmmm.  I've been prepping a remix of Sigue Sigue Sputnik's (Moroder-produced)
"Love Missile F1-11" that steals a few bars from "Evolution" from his
Battlestar Galactica album.  Takes all kinds. :-)

- --
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)
::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:54:31 -0400
From: Jordana Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) vibe-player humming disease

Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> Speaking of humming, have ANY of you noticed that SOMEBODY is
> humming (off key) on some of the Arthur Lyman LP's????  If I recall >correctly, sounds like he's humming along with the vibes.....

I swear this is a vibe-player thing, because in my
learning-to-play-jazz days, I had two separate music teachers who were
pro vibe players, and they both did the off-key humming thing while
they played!

Jordana
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:40:02 -0400
From: Jordana Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Laura's Q&A (and a blatant plea/plug too)

Polls - fun.



> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
No, but I have this vintage drum machine that I can't get
rid of, because I'm convinced that one day I'll have the
time to make some kind of samply music on my computer,
once I figure out the tech stuff.  (And I played recorder
and flute pretty seriously until I got to college.)

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
My dad played a lot of S. Mendes, H. Alpert and M. Santamaria
records when I was little; my mom was partial to Yma Sumac and
Ravi Shankar.  Periodically I would raid their collections for
stuff that sounded interesting.  Being into the indie music
thing sharpened my record-store-archeologist tendencies, so I
got the Incredibly Strange Music book, and saw some of the LPs
I borrowed from my parents and a lot of other stuff.

> 3. This list could help you more by...
Um, my pile of "records to buy" print-outs is thick enough, so
I don't think I need much more "help" :)

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
60s design (I would say furniture, but I can't afford much and
don't have the space yet), cute plastic toys, vintage books

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
I like a lot of that elexotica or whatever we're calling it,
and the poppier elecronic/postrock stuff (Stereolab, High Llamas,
and all their related endeavors), indie, 60s pop/rock in general,
and I have an soft spot for some of that newer poppy hip-hop stuff
(and for the industrial stuff I liked in high school - too many
genres)

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
Nobody's bid on my "Singing with Marcy" record on Ebay, and I was
hoping one of you people would give it a good home.

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
Because of my allergies, I'm leaning slightly towards CDs because I
never
have to deal with itchy red hands from touching a yucky mildewy
cover.  But
I could never abandon LP - nice big cover art, for one thing.  I still
buy
new (indies, imports and reissues) LPs when I have a choice.

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
Nope.  I'm more now-sound than exotica/tiki really.  I would boast
about this
great James Bond villainess negligee/robe set I stole from my mom, or
the
Barbarella costume I sincerely plan to make this year for Halloween.

Jordana

PS  The ebay stuff's at
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=eero67
and Marcy's still at 1 dollar.


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:27:20 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and all that

>
> I've just seen Yma's 'Legend of Jivarro' cover in a Soho record shop and if
> she's Peruvian then I'm a monkey's uncle. Without getting into racial
> stereotypes, I thought native Peruvians are dark skinned, black haired and
> generally non-western European in apperance. Yma looks like a big honky
> with a face as pale as a bucket.

Many of the South American countries experienced large European
immigrations during the late 1800's-1900's....just as occured in the
United States.  15% of Peruvians are of European descent, while most
other Peruvians are 'mestizo', which refers to a mix between AmerIndians
and Peruvians of European descent.

Thus there is no reason why Yma should not appear European.

By the way, the current Peruvian President, Alberto Fujimori, is of
either  Japanese and Chinese descent - I forgot which.  He looks more
like a member of Pizzicato 5 than a 'native Peruvian'

Vern



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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:46:22 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 7.28.98

"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am
- -------Billy Taylor Orchestra-David Frost Theme-------
Neal Hefti-Mom Comes To Dinner-OST Barefoot In The Park
Henry Mancini-Mr. Hobbs Theme-LP, Our Man In Hollywood RCA
Jimmy Haskell Orch-Dime With A Halo-LP From Russia W/ Love
Burt Bacharach-Saturday Sunshine-CD Burt Plays His Hits
Wondermints-Don't Go Breaking My Heart-CD What The World..
Esquivel-Dark Eyes-CD 4 Corners of the World, Bar-None
Perrey & Kingsley-UFO-CD
Mongo Santamaria-By The Time I Get To Phoenix-LP Feel Alrite
Della Reese-Goody Goody-LP Della! RCA Living Stereo
- -Combustible Edison-Short Double Latte (playing Boston Fri.)
- -Leonard Rosenman-Main Theme-OST Chapman Report
- -Hollywood Persuaders-Drums A-Go-Go-CD Swing 4 A Crime
- -Peter Thomas-Traitors-CD Futurmuzik-Scamp
- -Ventures-Police Story-CD Televentures
- -M.F.S.B.-T.L.C.-CD M.F.S.B., CBS-Legacy
- -Johnny Scott-Roses Today-CD  TV Dinners 60's-Scamp
- -Spiral Starecase-The Thought Of Loving You-LP More Today...
Mel Henke-The Twisters-CD Cocktail Something or Other
Trudy Pitts-Spanish Flea-CD Swingin' Cheese,Irma
Ferrante & Teicher-Oh! Calcutta-LP Getting Together
Piero Umiliani-Stockholm My Dear-OST (CD) Sweden.....
Don Catelli Orch-Brazil-LP Passionate Percussion
Peter Hamilton-Desert Heat-CD Phase 6 Superstereo (Plastic)
Dean Elliot-Will You Still Be Mine-CD Cocktail, Rhino
Johnny Lytle-Live For Life-LP Sound Of Velvet Soul
Sylvia-You Sure Love To Ball-CD Sylvia, Rhino
Gert Wilden-Gaslight Mood-LP I Told You Not To Cry
Yo Yo Hashi-Yo Yo's Pad-CD Lost Treasures-Del-Fi
- -Perez Prado-Canto Siboney-LP Our Man In Latin America RCA
- -Billy May's Rico Mambo Orch-Frenesi-LP on Capitol
- -????-Samba D'Orfeu-OST Black Orpheus
- -Ray Anthony-Samba D'Orfeu-CD BossaNovaVille-Ultra Lounge
- -Expo 80-Rolling Space-CD Up on some Italian label I think
- -Akimbo-theme From Rollerball-Acid Jazz TV & Movie Themes
- -De Wolfe Studio-Collect-CD Bite Hard
- -Isaac Hayes-Theme From The Men-45 7"
- ------Wayne Newton-Wives & Lovers------


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:49:11 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist Posting

I realize I said I was planning to discontinue posting playlists. But, I
reconsidered and re-evaluated the importance of individual contribution in
keeping this music out there...Hence, I will post the playlist.........thanks,
Jimmy


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:02:23 -0400
From: "Michael Bennet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind

Any recommendations for which of the three CD volumes of this comp to start
with?

Michael


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:40:13 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) mallet-player humming disease

>Nathan Miner wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of humming, have ANY of you noticed that SOMEBODY is
>> humming (off key) on some of the Arthur Lyman LP's????  If I recall
>>>correctly, sounds like he's humming along with the vibes.....
>
Jordana wrote
>I swear this is a vibe-player thing,

It might be a musicians with mallets thing. At a recent duet Austin show,
drummer Sunny Murray was working his kit and humming madly. Then saxist
Sonny Simmons sauntered back on stage and showed how to really perform a
tune.

MimiM




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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:18:24 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots

In a message dated 98-07-29 16:42:07 EDT, DJJimmyBee writes:

<< Am I a party crasher?  I
 suppose I am, it was going before I showed up.. But so what? I'm here and
 thank Br. Cleve and all the pioneers who made my own arrival
 possible.....Jimmy Botticelli >>

This is a pretty standard argument that I used to see in Flipside where
younger people who get into punk are sometimes labeled Johnny-come-latelys or
in some cases even poseurs.  Well, people can't help when they are born and
they can't help if they didn't know about something until later.  In your case
you would have grasped on, had you'd only known about it sooner.  In my own
case I was sort of wondering around looking for the lounge scene (I think I'd
heard about it through the media some how and was very interested in it, but
my memory is so bad, I can't even say for sure if this is how my interest was
originally sparked.  It may have been that I heard about it via one of those
music industry articles on lounge!)  Anyway, my big break came when we
happened to be in a punk-related book store Where my boyfriend's band was
playing and he spotted "Lounge Magazine" and "Tiki News." At  once I was
connected and I subscribed, read them from front to back and then kept looking
in the L.A. Weekly, hoping some lounge shows would get announced.  I knew
about Joey Altruda and went to see him play and met one of the DJs here, John
Godin (who doesn't have a computer and thus can't be on this list) who
connected me up with Otto of Tiki News.  I couldn't have gotten into it any
sooner, because I didn't know where to go.  This was probably in late 1995 or
early 1996.

- - Michele
A real poseur, no doubt


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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:18:40 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle!

Just got my dad (the stereo geek's return post on whether or not an expensive
needle makes a difference:

Subj:     Re: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle!
Date:    98-07-30 01:48:32 EDT
From:    [e-mail] (Instsci)
To:    [e-mail]

Here's my knowledge on the subject. I don't remember the numbers so you will
have to do further research on the subject of needles and tone arms. The
record is vinyl, a soft material. The frequencies are cut in the vinyl. As
the record is played over and over again the record begins to wear down with
the loss of the higher frequencies, rapid needle movement, and fidelity. It
was called high fidelity.  You therefore want a low pressure from the needle
on the record as well as a very small contact area between needle and grove.
The needle has to track the groves. If the needle does not track the groves
well and the revolutions of the turntable are not constant there is wow and
flutter. Bad fidelity. A very small needle is desireable therefore diamond
for hardness, ie wear and tear. You also want a flat broad band pickup to go
with the needle, less destortion. high fidelity. finally no rumble from the
turntable. all these factors make up the specs of a good turntable, arm, and
pickup. these are probable the most important components in the system since
they make the highest impact on the sound.


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:03:48 -0700
From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Love Boat

For anyone interested:

The Love Boat theme was written by Paul Williams (remember? diminuitive,
John Denver hair and glasses, probably a guest star on a few episodes) and
Charles Fox.  It was first telecast on Sept. 24, 1977, last on Sept. 5,
1986.  Sung by Jack Jones from 1977-1985, and Dionne Warwick from 1985-1986.

This info from "The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and Cable TV
Shows 1946-Present - 6th Edition" by Tim Brooks and Earle Marsh, published
by Ballantine Books.

Dave



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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:50:53 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight?

In a message dated 98-07-30 09:09:49 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Well...I hope your nephew is proud of you, but why can't she be fairer of
 skin?  There was colonization in Peru, too (not knowing her lineage).  I,
 for one, look like this >>

My brother gets mistaken for a black and a Mexican all the time just because
he's got nappy hair and dark skin due to the Italian blood in our family.  But
neither my sister or I would ever be mistaken for anything but white and our
parents have fair  skin.  You can never tell about those genes.  But for the
record.  Two of my closest friends are both from Peru.  They both have black
hair and dark skin.

- - Michele


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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:50:55 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) technical question

In a message dated 98-07-30 13:02:22 EDT, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Can anybody tell why some mails don't stay in their block and the
 sentences become 4 feet and longer? It's like every 15th or so mail that
 does that and no "expert" knows exactly why. Who's "fault" is it, the
 sender's or the recipients? >>

And while you are at it, can someone tell me why when I go to post to the
list, my mail always has a plaid background.  I can click it off, but it sure
is annoying to have to keep doing it.  And every time Mike sends a letter to
the Fresh Water Fish board, his letter automatically says "puffers" in the
signature space.  I posted a few messages about puffers and that obviously has
something to do about it, but what?
Do any of these questions make sense or do I just sound like a crazy woman?

- - Michele


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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:50:44 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help!  CD skips!)

In a message dated 98-07-30 05:06:59 EDT, you write:

<< Why should you? If something was wrong with the CD the shop must replace
 it. Or what? >>

I guess I should have explained (or not gone on at all)  It wasnt returnable
since I got it for free last year from a friend to review for Flipside.  So I
really would have to shell out $15 to replace it.

- - Michele


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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:27:46 +0200
From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Buffalo Bob Smith obit

Hello music lovers


Lou Smith wrote:
>
>         HENDERSONVILLE, N.C. (AP) -- ``Buffalo Bob'' Smith, the cowboy-suited host
> of ``The Howdy Doody Show'' who delighted the baby boom generation in the
> early years of television, died Thursday of cancer. He was 80.

I have a record by Bob Smith and Howdy Doody. It's called "Be a
ventriloquist" and it's on the EG-label. Does anyone know what year this
was released?

Marco K.


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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:28:22 +0200
From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming

[e-mail] wrote:

> I have a CD of Glenn Gould playing the Goldberg Variations and for a long time I
> kept hearing these weird songs that spooked me out, then I suddenly realized I
> only heard them when I listened to that CD, and sure enough, it's Gould humming
> along, out of tune.
> So weird.

Gould is probably the most famous "hummer" of all time. He was also the
first classical musician who experimented with recording pieces in
different takes and splicing the parts together (instead of recording
the whole piece "live")
Years ago I took piano lessons from an American named Irv Rochlin (he
plays on Ben Webster's last live-recording in Holland, early 70's, now
available on a double-cd) and he was a "hummer" too!

Marco K.


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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:23:40 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Augusto Alguero / Roberto Delgado

Hello there I'm a DJ playing 'this' sort of music, whatever that may be
at a nightclub down here in Brighton UK.  I have a couple of
compilations with tracks by Augusto Alguerro and Roberto Delgado,  and
I've never heard of these people.  I have managed to find an LP by
Roberto Delgado ('This is..'  I think,  I'm at work so I can't go and
look),  but I've never seen anything by Augusto Alguerro,  who I'm very
impressed by.  Can anyone tell me anything about them,  any
discographies,  recommendations etc.

Thanks


Il Maestro Con Queso

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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:58:31 +0100
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Moritz R: Re: (exotica) technical question]

> From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
> Ron Grandia wrote:
>
> > This means that the text string has no
> > return characters to tell your computer when to break to the next line.
> > Most email programs have a "wrap long lines" command somwhere that
> > will fix this for you.
>
> So you are saying that some e-mail programms don't habe a "wrap" command or
> that some users haven't activated it?
>

I think that's the most likely explanation.

> > I suspect the same forces are at work when an email is received that
> > has a bunch of half-lines and weird formatting (I notice my messages
> > to others suffer from this, and I am working to solve this. It may be
> > because the size of individual's email windows differ, and the the
> > formatting does not always translate...or something.... Just a theory.
>
> My wrap long lines command is set to 72 characters a line. Is that standard?
> I suggest we all agree on one standard, so that the mails we recieve look
> better.

Yes, that's what the standard is supposed to be. It's based on
terminals with screens that only have a certain number of characters
per line: I used to use one of these (a VT100). It's always safer to
put in the returns yourself, I think.

Another point is that people should make sure they've got any kind of
encoding (MIME or HTML) switched off. Otherwise you get control
characters embedded everywhere, making the text unreadable.



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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:10:50 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) technical question

In a message dated 98-07-31 01:53:22 EDT, you write:

<< << Can anybody tell why some mails don't stay in their block and the
  sentences become 4 feet and longer? It's like every 15th or so mail that
  does that and no "expert" knows exactly why. Who's "fault" is it, the
  sender's or the recipients? >>
  >>

i think is is because some people still type and hit the return (enter) button
and the end of  a line.  most of just let the sentences "wrap" themselves.
people who typed a lot before computer probably have this habit and it is hard
to break.

does this make any sence?

robert


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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:24:10 +0100
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Augusto Alguero / Roberto Delgado

> From: [e-mail]
>
> Hello there I'm a DJ playing 'this' sort of music, whatever that may be
> at a nightclub down here in Brighton UK.  I have a couple of
> compilations with tracks by Augusto Alguerro and Roberto Delgado,  and
> I've never heard of these people.  I have managed to find an LP by
> Roberto Delgado ('This is..'  I think,  I'm at work so I can't go and
> look),  but I've never seen anything by Augusto Alguerro,  who I'm very
> impressed by.  Can anyone tell me anything about them,  any
> discographies,  recommendations etc.
>

I probably have between 20 and 30 Roberto Delgado albums. He's the
kind of guy that does a lot of stuff, much of which is dull, but with
some very outstanding tracks. The compilation albums are possibly the
best thing to pick up, but if you see "Latin Flutes" then grab it for
the track "Salambo No. 1" which is AMAZING, with a "wakka takka wakka
king kong -- SALAMBO!" vocal, a gorgonzola-level cheesy beat and scary
guitar interludes. God, this needs re-releasing. Other cool tracks are
"The Mosquito" and "Hurricane".

Augusto Alguero is another kettle of fish. Everything I've heard him
do is fabulous, exciting music. Really way out. As far as I know, he
only did two albums, the first I can't recall the name of (Sounds
Spectacular?), the second "Hey Jude". Although I've been looking for
years, I've only found the second one, and that's quite beaten
up. However, there are a lot of Polydor LP compilations with
A.A. tracks on, which shouldn't be so hard to find. Highlights for me
are "Gran Premio" (on the "This is Stereo" compilation), a truly
insane piece with great sound effects and weird combinations of
styles, and "Bocaccio Soul" (on the "A-Z of Easy Listening"
compilation). I believe there are also some A.A. tracks on the first
volume on the "In-Flight" compilation.

I did once see an Italian(?) album, a singer called, um, Manuel Gas or
something equally improbable, with arrangments by
A. Alguero. Unfortunately, someone had *ploughed* the record.

- -- Pete.



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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:15:41 -0400
From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming & G. Gould

> .. and sure enough, it's Gould humming along, out of tune.

Once, in a long ago apartment, when my then-roommate was out of town, I
raided her LP collection to make cassette tapes.  Gould's noted "Goldberg
Variations" was among them.  Well, she had this dalamtion puppy that I was
taking care of for her ... his barking that weekend was pushing me to the
brink, so I put him in his crate in her room next to the stereo for a few
hours and would only venture back into the room to flip the record every 20
minutes or so.

When I listened to this Gould tape months later, I noticed (of course) his
notorious humming right off the bat.  What caught me by surprise was that
there was a distinct barking in the background throughout the entire tape
- -- I kid you not!  I presume that Jesse the Dalamation's barking was strong
enough to vibrate the phono needle and record it to tape.

I would issue the standard "sorry this isn't really exotica blah blah
blah," but, if ya think about it, there's undertones of "Quiet Village" to
this story, so there!

- --chris cook

BTW:  No angry animal-lover flames, pleeze ... the dog wuz quite well cared
for & I am ..... er, once was .... a card carrying member of PETA ... :)




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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:34:36 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Rollcall

Thanx for the rollcall questions, Lou.  I hope more folx post answers, these
are interesting.


OK, here goes.  If anyone is honestly interested...

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
    Yes.  I have been playing keyboards, mainly piano, since the third
grade.  My graduation gift from grammar school was a Korg PolySix analog
synthesizer, which I still own and play.  I have never been paid for a stage
gig, and have only played on stage twice.  I am also an Audio Engineer for a
large telecommunications company, giving me access to lots of neeto toys
that musicians like.

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
    The biggie was Arthur Lyman's "Taboo Vol. 2".  It was my dad's
favorite record, and he played it often. The cover art on Taboo 2 freaked me
out when I was a kid.  I thought it was the weirdest looking and sounding
stuff I would ever run into, I was hooked forever!   He also got me started
with  "The Best of Xavier Cugat"  along with "Nelson Riddle plays the Route
66 Theme".  These and "The Ventures a go-go" did me in for life.  The first
one I ever bought for myself was "Music from Mission Impossible" as
conducted by Lalo Schifrin.

> 3. This list could help you more by...
    ...staying the way it is.  I get lots of useful info from the list,
and really appreciate everyone's postings, even when things get "heated".  I
enjoy the thrift scores, and commentary on what people feel about which
record. I find the tech info indispensable, especially when people with more
experience correct my wrong perceptions!

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
    Working on the Tiki bar stuff.  I have several cocktail shakers and
utensils of Vegas styling (with little dice on them).  Trying to collect
tiki mugs, masks and "real" imported carved tribal stuff to hang up once I
get the room.  I am also into vintage clothes, but the cool stuff is very
hard to find out here (east coast) or it is pricey.  I am beginning to
collect old audio(phile) hardware and electronics, like speaker cabinets,
consoles, Leslie horns, spring reverbs and the like, and I also like old
keyboards and obscure musical instruments.

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
    Geez, this can be a long list.  Every non-country/western pop style
that happened between ragtime and late 90s Electronica, NOT including
Grunge, most older jazz, girl-group-motown,  hootenanny, or
redneck-rockslploitation from the 70s like Bachman Turner Overdrive and
Black Oak Arkansas and Nazareth.  I particularly LIKE anything
(neo)electronic like Kraftwerk and Devo, everything ever done by Steely Dan,
Donald Fagen, Led Zeppelin and the Doors,  anything late 70s/early 80s Punk
oriented, and most progressive newer dance/hiphop/jungle/techno music.  I
like the new Electronica/triphop sound and the resurgence of Goth.   And I
think Dean Martin IS the essence of old Vegas Lounge culture, just LOOK at
him in Ocean's Eleven.

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
    I used to work at MTV, but quit when I realized that you can't make
a career there unless you really hate good music, and are willing to
schmooze big time to the musically inept geekazoid morons in charge.  (No
offense to any list members that may be there )

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> Tell
> us more!
    I like LPs because they are sexy, have better cover art,  and are
more earthy sounding.  The original LP mixes of most things that have been
CD re-released sound much better than the new mixes done by some 90s
engineer that never heard the original and just got done with the last
Hanson album.  CDs are convenient, way too antiseptic, and are best for
brand new music, particularly dance stuff to be played at super high volume.
Keep the old stuff in an analog format.  Bring back the reel-to-reel decks!


> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
>
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
    Ain't never gonna do it with a fez on.  But I have this cool green
50s vintage sportscoat and an old black satin smoking jacket.

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman




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