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exotica-digest         Tuesday, July 21 1998         Volume 02 : Number 159



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti)
(exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack
(exotica) yucky thrifts
Re: (exotica) Lurkers
(exotica) Las Vegas Grind
Re: (exotica) yucky thrifts
Re: (exotica) Lurkers
(exotica) Las Vegas Grind -Reply
Re: (exotica) scores posting/playlists
(exotica) The Bad Angel
(exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies
Re: (exotica) The Bad Angel
Re: (exotica) cheap records part two
(exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies
Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo)
Re:  Re:  (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges
(exotica) Bombay the Hard Way
Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack
Re: (exotica) Patience and Prudence Pictures
Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo)
Re: (exotica) "Dirty" Thrift Shops
(exotica) Rollcall
(exotica) One small step for man . . .
(exotica) One giant cheese ball
Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . .
Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . .
Re: [Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Indian pop]
Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti)
Re: (exotica) James Flora obit
Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop
Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop
Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop
Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . .
Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop
Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop
Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop
Re: (exotica) Rollcall
Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop
RE: (exotica) Rollcall

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:57:48 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti)

I have a copy and would be willing to trade if anyone is interested. My
VCR is play only, alas.

Ben


>This show was available on video at one time - perhaps it's still
available
>with a bit of hunting. Here's the info:
>Artist:=A0David Lynch
>Title: =A0Industrial Symphony #1
>Date of Release:=A01990 (release)
>Warner Reprise Video: 38179=A0=A0Warner Reprise Video: 003817900805


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:22:36 -0400
From: Michael Hibarger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack

I think the Twin Peaks stuff does fall on the periphery of exotica.
I love both the Twin Peaks soundtrack and especially the Firewalk
with Me soundtracks.  Both are amazing.  They are dark and exotic
with lots of twangy guitars, vibes and jazzy drumming.  Check out:
"The Pink Room" off of Firewalk with Me...Incredible.  And some
of the twangy guitar playing on these records was done by Vincent
Bell, a studio musician from way back who also invented the
Coral Electric Sitar!!  Which was featured on probably many a late
60's exotica track...the most prominent example of the Coral Electric
Sitar was probably BJ Thomas' version of "Hooked on a Feeling"...

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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 20:16:59 -0400
From: Jordana Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) yucky thrifts

[e-mail] wrote:

> is it just me but does anyone else get bugged that some of the thrifts are so
> dirty????  sometimes i come home and feel like i need to take a bath because i
> got so many other peoples "stuff" on me?

My skin is really sensitive, so if I'm around old records (or books) I
get bright red splotches on my face and arms.  It used to only happen
after rummaging through musty stuff for hours at a time, but in the
last year or so I can get it just from a couple minutes of exposure.

Jordana
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:33:27 -0700
From: "super k. riot" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers

well, i;ve been lurking for a while and havent posted anything. and for
this i;m sorry. i promise to post more often. but it;s hard sometimes
when your time is limited. so anyways i'd like to say hi. and to
michelle i'd like to say hi and thank you very, very much for inviting
me to the dinner/meet-up at encounters a few months back.my friend s
and  i had lots of fun and we really enjoyed it. it was especially cool
meeting you. i;m sorry i haven;t mailed lately. also another question
for michelle, have you been to bollucks yet? tht's the new punk club
that is taking over from where jabberjaw left off only without the emo
thing.
thanks and cyal8r
ken
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:54:34 -1000
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Funk)
Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind

Okay, what's the deal with the "Las Vegas Grind" CDs?

Saw these for the first time at the local record shoppe in the "Lounge"
section. Thought I remembered some discussion about them on this list, but
couldn't remember the gist of it.

Very provocative covers, German Imports, I think there were 3 volumes.

Is this "new" lounge, or 50s-60s vintage? Rock-ish? Jazz-ish? or neither-ish?

The general concept leads you to believe this is "stripping music", which
as far as I'm concerned is not that interesting without the visual element.
Perhaps these discs would prove me wrong??

***     ***     ***
Steve Funk
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Anchorage, AK
USA




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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:51:07 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) yucky thrifts

Blotches? You should see my cankers. I have to wear a rubber body suit
into those joints. And a jaunty mauve cumberbund.

>My skin is really sensitive, so if I'm around old records (or books) I
>get bright red splotches on my face and arms.  It used to only happen
>after rummaging through musty stuff for hours at a time, but in the
>last year or so I can get it just from a couple minutes of exposure.
>
>Jordana
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:06:54 +0000
From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers

[e-mail] wrote:

>
> Can you imagine what you email load would be like if all 329 people were
> posting on a regular basis?  Pretty insane!  With the few active posters we
> have, I have way more than enough email to read every night!
>

Maybe I'll lay off for a while. This would allow many people
to post without changing the nightly email load. It would probably
save many people the effort of having to skip and delete all my
useless verbiage!

Perhaps a roll-call of sorts would be in order... There may be a lot of
inactive email addresses on the list.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:33:07 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind -Reply

These are RAW BABE - RAW, rock 'n roll-a - way-out boom-boom-ba-doom =
drunken recording sessions......fun primitive stuff - forget David Rose's =
hit - this is sometin' ELSE!...........


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:18:48 +0000
From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) scores posting/playlists

[e-mail] wrote:

> As one of the more vocal "thrift scores" critics, the answer is yes!  We
> greenhorns  would get alot out of a brief descrip or just a thumbs up or
> down... I often will save to a records search file all you posters
> recommendations that I use on my own searches as record swapmeets... those
> types of posts are most useful.  I realize that the ability to post such a
> list also depends on one's time availability, but the answer to your question
> is yes!

It does take time, but I REALLY appreciate those who do it. If I can't
take
time to post annotations, I don't post a list. (notice any lists from me
lately?)
Maybe I should be easier on myself and take Michelle's suggestion of a
simple
yay/nay and add comments where they are warranted and not try to write
about EVERY entry.

I suppose the same can be said for playlists - Annotations make them
MUCH more useful.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:02:51 +0000
From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Bad Angel

Angelo Badalamenti = Andy Badale?!?

Slaps forehead...!

I always wondered who Andy Badale was - he's credited with co-writing
5 songs on Perrey's "Moog Indigo" (Soul City, EVA(!), Cat in the
Night, Moog Indigo and Passport to the Future).

As Harry Hill might say, "respect due"!

Oh, one name missing from the Twin Peaks raving - Vinnie Bell on
guitar.  Where would the music be without THAT guitar!


Robbie

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:14:31 +0000
From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies

I have been looking for info online, but so far NOTHING...

Anybody know anything about "The Gypsies" featured in
the movie "Love in the Afternoon?" They were the band
that would follow and Serenade Gary Cooper and Audrey
Hepburn in one of the funniest running gags on film.

If there is any vinyl of these guys, I'd love to get it.

By the way... great flick. Gary Cooper is pretty wooden,
but he plays a passable asshole rich guy/playboy/womanizer.
Audrey is Audrey (siiiiiiigh!) and Maurice Chevalier is
ALWAYS a treat. The music is terrific, and theh "gypsies"
whoever they are, are deft musicians, AND great physical
comeidians who never utter a word, but convey great personality.
The ending, which is supposed to be a romantic triumph, is the
big disappointment.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:45:35 -0700
From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Bad Angel

At 10:02 PM 7/20/98 +0000, Robbie Baldock wrote:

>I always wondered who Andy Badale was - he's credited with co-writing
>5 songs on Perrey's "Moog Indigo" (Soul City, EVA(!), Cat in the
>Night, Moog Indigo and Passport to the Future).

He also co-wrote four songs on Perrey's "The Amazing New Elecronic Pop Sound
 of Jean Jacques Perrey" (Mary France, Island in Space, Mister James Bond,
and In the Heart of a Rose).

Dave


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:39:16 +0000
From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) cheap records part two

>
> Klaus Wunderlich HAMMOND SENSATIONS (on Hi Fi Telefunken)
> I avoid Klaus's records usually but this one looked so different, sort of
> like a George Wright records.  I don't know if I'm going to start buying
> the other ones now but this is a pretty good organ record with a few
> exotica classics.

Klaus ROCKS! I discovered him in a thrift-store on a record called
"Wersi-time Volume II" It's a demo of the German-Made Wersi,a heavily
electronic organ. I love organ records, and I have found that organ
demo records are the most F*@$!ED UP, WACKY-ASSED, brilliant stuff on
vinyl
because the try to wring every drop of sound out of the special features
of
the instrument the record is trying to sell. Klause really pulls out all
the stops
(sorry, I HAD to say that) on this one. His goofy mugging on the cover
is an added
bonus.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:40:28 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Affair to remember/Gypsies

At 02:14 PM 7/20/98 +0000, Ron Grandia wrote:
>Anybody know anything about "The Gypsies" featured in=20
>the movie "Love in the Afternoon?" They were the band
>that would follow and Serenade Gary Cooper and Audrey
>Hepburn in one of the funniest running gags on film.

I don't know any more about the "Four Gypsies" than their names:=20
George Cocos.... One of Four Gypsies
Victor Gazzoli.... One of Four Gypsies
Gyula Kokas.... One of Four Gypsies
Michel Kokas.... One of Four Gypsies

Only one of the four (Gyula Kokas) has another film credit:
Papucsh=F6s, A (1938)
Hungary 1938 Black and White=20
Language: Hungarian Runtime:76=20
Directed by Johann von V=E1s=E1ry=A0
Cast Gyula Kokas

- -Lou




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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:32:50 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo)

>>My question: Does anybody know more about Angelo Badalamenti

> I think he maybe worked with Jean-Jacques Perrey or something. HELP...

Yes.......he's listed as Perrey's co-writer on 6 tracks of "Moog Indigo",
and 4 tracks on "The Amazing New Electronic Pop Sound".

br cleve




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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:56:15 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  Re:  (exotica) New Ultra-Lounges

>>>Looks like Ultra Lounge has thrown in the towel on Lounge and is going for
the much larger (ie $$$) audience of Swing!?!<<<

Actually, maybe we're reading too much into it. The two already-released
"Wild, Cool & Swingin'" discs are Vegas-focused. Of course, that doesn't mean
the five new ones won't take a different course for that title.

>>>Afterall, their side project for new acts released the new Big Bad Voodoo
Daddys CD while they sit on a compilation full of excellent progressive music
by new Lounge acts (Brother Cleve, Blue Hawaiians, Four Piece Suit, etc.)<<<

What's this? Sounds very interesting. Do you have any more information about
this disc and why it's not being released?



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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:02:01 -0500
From: "Bryan J. Cuevas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bombay the Hard Way

Hey folks - I just uncovered the Grand Royal issue (#6, p. 48) that
advertises the Indian film collection on Motel Records. The title: "Bombay
the Hard Way: Guns, Cars & Sitars (get down with the sound of the
brown)"...

Looked it up on the web....nothing. What's the deal with Motel Records
anyway? I thought the Vampyros thing a few years back was gonna be the
start of something solid from these guys. What gives? Anyone in NYC care to
fill us in....

Bryan

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Department of Religious Studies
University of Virginia
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:12:29 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks soundtrack

<< .the most prominent example of the Coral Electric
 Sitar was probably BJ Thomas' version of "Hooked on a Feeling"... >>

i wonder...did the Box Tops use one on their 1968 hit "Cry Like A Baby"?


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:15:38 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Patience and Prudence Pictures

A few weeks back someone posted a MP# from a single to the MP3 50's newsgroup.
The song was called "We Can't Sing R & B" and it makes me want more more more
of these two.

JB


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:27:45 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (and no this is not porno promo)

In a message dated 98-07-20 09:41:16 EDT, charlieman writes:

<< I can't help but feel that I missed something very important when I misses
 these episodes.  I know the women were gorgeous, but what else is up with
 this show? >>

god, i don't know where to start.  too complicated to explain.  check out a
web site for more info:

http://movie.reel.com/Content/moviepage.asp?MMID=6993

http://www.mikedunn.com/lynch/tp.html

http://www.mikedunn.com/lynch/

http://www.sci.fi/~mike/tp/tplodge.html

one of the above sites has the entire series on video tape for about 75 bucks.

robert (never drink a cup of coffee that has been anywhere near a fish)


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:29:01 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Dirty" Thrift Shops

In a message dated 98-07-20 10:21:42 EDT, you write:

<< Simple solution.  NEVER leave on a thrifting trip without a few "Handi-
Wipes" in your pocket.  I can't STAND having all of that grime on me hands
either.........
  >>

a man after my own (fastidiously clean) heart.

robert


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:47:18 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rollcall

In a message dated 98-07-20 16:08:18 EDT, Ron Grandia wrote:

<< Perhaps a roll-call of sorts would be in order... There may be a lot of
 inactive email addresses on the list.
  >>

OK, sounds a little hokey but we could give it a try.  Any suggestions for a
format??

Robert


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:55:50 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) One small step for man . . .

Not really music related but I thought this was interesting.  What songs were
you "grooving" to that summer????

Robert

This is "Giant Leap" Day!
With "...one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," astronaut, Neil
Armstrong, pilot of the lunar spacecraft, the "Eagle", made the first
footsteps on the surface of the
moon at 10:56 p.m. EDT on this day in 1969. Which foot did Armstrong use to
step on the grainy, grayish, lunar soil? His left.

So incredible were the TV images of Armstrong and later, Buzz Aldrin,
exploring the lunar surface, people around the world stopped and collectively
held their breath. The words "Houston, Tranquillity Base here. The Eagle has
landed..." gave instant impact to the drama of watching human beings reach
something so far away so successfully. And all were able to
breathe once again.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:18:57 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) One giant cheese ball

And  . . . on this day in history:

1801 - A 1,235 pound cheese ball was pressed at the farm of Elisha Brown, Jr.
on this day. The huge ball of cheese was later loaded on a horse-driven wagon
and presented to President Thomas Jefferson at the White House. Mr. Jefferson
was heard to say, "That's one small bite for man, one giant cheese for
mankind."


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:40:01 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . .

At 09:55 PM 7/20/98 EDT, rcbrooks wrote:
>Not really music related but I thought this was interesting.  What songs were
>you "grooving" to that summer?

>>With "...one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," astronaut,
  >>Neil Armstrong made the first footsteps on the Moon at 10:56 p.m. EDT
on this >>day in 1969.

Actually, this is quite relevant for me and this list because of my answer.
 The only music I remember well as a 10-year-old was one that was playing a
lot on the radio...and Red Skelton featured on his TV show with none other
than a lunar astronaut bopping to the tune.

I am, of course, referring to Ma-Nah Ma-Nah from the soundtrack of Swedish
Heaven or Hell (apologies if I got any part of that wrong.  the exact title
of the movie and the spelling of the song title are suspect).

My friends were all into The Beatles and The Yellow Submarine.  Go figure!

Oh, I was also partial to "I Wanna Be Like You" (featuring Phil Harris and
Louis Prima) from "The Jungle Book" which I had seen in the theatres
sometime around then.

And who are John, Paul, Ringo and George again?

Byron

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:44:55 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . .

<< >Not really music related but I thought this was interesting.  What songs
were
 >you "grooving" to that summer? >>

According to Billboard, Zager and Evans' IN THE YEAR 2525 was number one at
the time and in that position for 6 weeks.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:27:44 -0700
From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Indian pop]

At 06:53 PM 7/17/98 +0100, Peter wrote:

>>Ravi Shankar albums are always worth picking up, I think. A cool one
>>is "Transformation Macabre", the soundtrack to a British artfilm
>>("Viola"), with short pieces such as "Madness" and "Death"; much more
>>eerie and aggressive sitar/tabla playing than I've heard
>>elsewhere. Again, not really pop, but fascinating.

>I just saw this out on CD.  I will look for it again tomorrow, and post
the information on label and catalog#....

Ravi Shankar - Transmigration Macabre (CD)
C-Five Records  -  Cat# C5CD 596
Made in the EC

It was $14.95 here, so it's not priced like an import sometimes can be.
The label's catalog can be obtained through a PO Box in England.  The
original sound recording was from 1973 on Spark Records.  On the back, it
says "from the film 'Viola', produced by R. Davis".

Dave




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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:27 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Twin Peaks (Badalamenti)

Thanks for the info, Lou!

MO



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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:13 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) James Flora obit

Lou Smith wrote:

>                             *James Flora
> NORWALK, Conn. (AP) -- James Flora, a noted children's author and one of
> the first artists to design and illustrate record album covers, died July 9.
> He was 84.

http://www.inhi-fi.com/flora

I discovered him only 3 days ago after someone had posted this homepage adress. I
think he was great and once more a great artist wasn't recognized by the "official"
art-scene, just because his work was devoted to another genre of the arts, in this
case music. Same happened to the geniuses who worked in the field of film or even
advertising. Today "the jazz" in Flora's work is what we appreciate and many of the
artist of the same time who hang in museums look dry compared to his like. His work
was "Pop" even before there was pop and I believe that in the end pop is always of
greater value, more durable, because it was made to be understood by "everybody",
whereas much of the concept-art of the past is hard to understand today. And if you
take a closer look at where the celebrated "avantgardists" of the art world got their
ideas from, you'll often enough find, that they stole it from some popular culture.

MO





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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:30:27 +0100
From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop

>I know this isn't a sitar thread but I heard this Dave Pike cut on this
>compilation and it had electric sitar on it and it was just killer.
Anyone
>know if there's a whole record like that somewhere?

I'm pretty sure you are talking about the track "Indian Vibes" which is
also
rereleased by MATHAR (Paul Weller, actually!!!). As far as I know, this is
the cut. I never hear about a Dave Pike LP,but always hear about this
track....

Jill "Mingo-go"

No Jill, Its Mathar by Dave Pike.
Indian Vibes is a sample-based ripoff (I think by the Chemical Brothers)

Mathar is from one of Dave's German LPs which feature a mixture of jazz.
Nothing special, and not much sitar, but Mathar is an absolute classic.






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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:35:03 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop

At 11:30 21/07/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>>I know this isn't a sitar thread but I heard this Dave Pike cut on this
>>compilation and it had electric sitar on it and it was just killer.
>Anyone
>>know if there's a whole record like that somewhere?
>
>I'm pretty sure you are talking about the track "Indian Vibes" which is
>also
>rereleased by MATHAR (Paul Weller, actually!!!). As far as I know, this is
>the cut. I never hear about a Dave Pike LP,but always hear about this
>track....
>
>Jill "Mingo-go"
>
>No Jill, Its Mathar by Dave Pike.
>Indian Vibes is a sample-based ripoff (I think by the Chemical Brothers)
>
>Mathar is from one of Dave's German LPs which feature a mixture of jazz.
>Nothing special, and not much sitar, but Mathar is an absolute classic.

OK, I stand corrected on the "Indian Vibes" being by Mathar and Dave Pike's
track being called "Mathar", but the Mathar group-titled track is not by the
Chemical Brothers. It really is by Paul Weller and his band. I've got this
on  good authority because there was discussion on this track some time ago
on the list. It has been re-released 2 or 3 times (including recently) with
remixes from Brendon Lynch and Richard Fearless, but it really was released
on a bootleg as "Indian Vibes" by Mathar,then on vinyl by...a Paul Weller
related project.

Go figure...

Jill



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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:03:31 +0100
From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop

NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a
huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a
favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993
bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the
Dust/Chemical Brothers. Paul would not be interested in nicking pieces of
other records in the same way. Now maybe Brendan Lynch has been involved in
the remixing department (as he has been with many things) and maybe you're
getting confused with other Brendan Lynch/Paul Weller/sitar tracks. But
Mathar, Indian Vibes is by the brothers grimm and not the pop maestro
himself.





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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:34:31 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) One small step for man . . .

In a message dated 98-07-20 22:46:57 EDT, you write:

<< Not really music related but I thought this was interesting.  What songs
 were
  >you "grooving" to that summer? >>

 According to Billboard, Zager and Evans' IN THE YEAR 2525 was number one at
 the time and in that position for 6 weeks.
  >>

sorta appropo for the event of the day, huh?


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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:04:22 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop

At 12:03 21/07/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a
>huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a
>favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993
>bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the
>Dust/Chemical Brothers. Paul would not be interested in nicking pieces of
>other records in the same way. Now maybe Brendan Lynch has been involved in
>the remixing department (as he has been with many things) and maybe you're
>getting confused with other Brendan Lynch/Paul Weller/sitar tracks. But
>Mathar, Indian Vibes is by the brothers grimm and not the pop maestro
>himself.

I have just left a message for my friend who has supplied me with the Weller
info. As soon as he gets back to me, I will tell you how Weller was
involved. But I am fairly certain this is NOT a Chemical Brothers track, and
that in fact, Weller or his band or something very much  has something to do
with it. As soon as the source gets back to me, I'll tell you the scoop. Not
that anyone is that interested... And as far as Lynch being "maybe" involved
in the remixing department, there is a commercially available track with his
remixes on VC Recordings.

Jill



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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:58:34 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop

At 12:03 21/07/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a
>huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a
>favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993
>bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the
>Dust/Chemical Brothers.

Well, it really was Weller. I still haven't had my "source" get back to me,
but I did a websearch, and found that Weller indeed did it. Check
www.jazzworld.com/wwwboard/messages/1493.html. I also found the track listed
on a sales as Weller "having helped in the release of a version in 1992".
Still haven't heard any of these sources mentioning the Chemical Brothers...

As for Weller not being interested in old jazz and hip hop, what was The
Style Council if not a jazz/rare groove/funk band? What were the Jam if not
Mod/Hammond Jazz/Beat/R&B? What is Paul Weller now? Minstral folk in the
style of Nick Drake, Roy Harper not to mention the influence of artists such
as Dr. John ("Walk on Guilded Splinters" cover) which is far from being
"pure pop".

Upon initially hearing "Indian Vibes" - the bootleg, I, too, was shocked to
find out it was Weller.

Jill and DJ Hush Puppy (knowledgeable references above)

PS: In the sleeve notes of the Dave Pike LP that "Mathar" was on, barks Hush
Puppy, it says that Mathar was the title of the village where Ravi Shankar
studied sitar for 12 years and that the word is a combo of "mother" and
"sitar".



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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:36:11 -0400
From: Jordana Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop

> >NO NO NO. Why would Paul Weller, a guitarist and pop purist be sampling a
> >huge chunk of an old jazz record to create a hip hop style bootleg? Do me a
> >favour. The track is by the Chemical Brothers. I have the original 1993
> >bootleg (now worth too much money for its own good) and it smells of the
> >Dust/Chemical Brothers.

It _is_ Weller - and it's not a sample - Paul Weller actually plays
electric sitar, acoustic and electric guitar on the track.  The
bootleg you have may in fact be remixes.

I have my copy, which is the original single on Virgin UK, and not a
bootleg, sitting here in my lap.  It's orange with little silhouettes
of firebreathing figures.

Tracks:
Mathar Indian Timebomb Breaks (remix by X-Press 2)
Mathar Dawson's Dub Hands On (remix by X-Press 2)
Mathar Radio Mix
Mathar Discovery of India Mix
Mathar Ballistics in Traffic Mix (remix by the Ballistic Brothers)
Mathar Lynch Mob Beats [possibly the hip-hop style you're referring
to]

Musicians:
Paul Weller (electric sitar, acoustic and electric guitar)
Gerard Farrell (sitar)
Marco Nelson (bass)
Crispin Taylor (drums and percussions)

It has more recently been released again, as a single, possibly with
different remixes, and I think that may have the Dave Pike version on
it as well.

This record is a recurring topic on this list, usually it's my fault
because I really love this record and I wish there was more of it.

Jordana
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:52:10 +0000
From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall

[e-mail] wrote:

> OK, sounds a little hokey but we could give it a try.  Any suggestions for a
> format??
>

Hmmm.. Perhaps everybody should post a message saying, "Present!" Like
rollcall in Gym class. No?

What might work is to have all active participants send an email to an
address OFF the list. A hotmail or yahoo! account can be set up in
minutes.
This would keep the actual list from getting cluttered.

Hey, and just to make it interesting, anybody want to get in on a pool
to
predict the actual number of participants on the list? $5 (US) to play.
Closest guess without going over wins the kitty. Any tie will be split.
Anyone? Anyone?

It might be worthwhile to have a brief re-introduction period as well.
New listers do not have the benefit of being introduced to the older
ones,
so while we are at it, this might be a good time to get re-acquainted.

However this is done, I would imagine we will need to make sure that
the folks reading the digest have ample time to respond.


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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:02:28 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop

At 1:36 PM -0400 7/21/98, Jordana Robinson wrote:
>Mathar Indian Timebomb Breaks (remix by X-Press 2)
etc
>It has more recently been released again, as a single, possibly with
>different remixes, and I think that may have the Dave Pike version on
>it as well.

I have the 12" credited to Dave Pike, with a 1969 copyright credited to
Polygram (and licensed through their cool imprint, Motor). It is on the
British label Outcaste, and has 2 remixes by Badmarsh & Shiri, and a speed
garage remix by Badmarsh that is pretty groovy. So did Weller re-cut the
original Pike piece?

br cleve




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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:01:20 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Rollcall

> It might be worthwhile to have a brief re-introduction period as well.
>
Yes, yes good idea.  For me, having been here around only 8 months or so, I
still am not sure about most people's vitals.

Like I think that Jill Mingo-go and Moritz and a few other folks are in
Europe someplace, but I'm not sure where.  It can be helpful when people
post info about concerts and events and radio programs and thrift store
finds (yes, I like them), to also have an idea of their location.

Esp with over 300 people, there may be more in some areas that I may have
suspected?

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman


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