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exotica-digest         Thursday, July 16 1998         Volume 02 : Number 155



In This Digest:

(exotica) cheap records part two
Re: (exotica) Lurkers
(exotica) new reviews in motion
[Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?]
Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?
(exotica) Glasgow Phuture Lounge club
(exotica) My Two Cents
Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?
(exotica) WELK: Welkisms
(exotica) RE: Loungecore
(exotica) pre-Kon Tiki
Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?
(exotica) NEW! Download The Free RealPlayer G2
Re: (exotica) NEW! Download The Free RealPlayer G2
(exotica) Radio Feed Of Sorts
Re: (exotica) Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band
(exotica) Re: Lucia Pamela
(exotica) Re: cheapest cleaning machine
Re:  (exotica) cheap records part one
(exotica) DJ night in Boston

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 05:30:32 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) cheap records part two

Some more of those 65 records I bought on Monday:

"POTATOES", a compilation from Ralph Records
In deference to some on the list, I'll call this an "exotica" highlight.
And there are a couple of cuts that are exotica especially Maria Marquez
and Frank Harris doing "Canto del Pilon".
A Ralph Record at a Goodwill store.  Is this kind of rare?  I might sell this.

Frank Chacksfield - EBB TIDE, a two record set! on Phase Four
I know at least one person who collects Phase Four records and I can hardly
ever resist the covers.  I mentioned this record in an earlier post.  I
genuinely love some of this and I don't know why.  Straight cover version
but there's an energy to it, that's all I can say.

The Raymonde Singers Etcetera FEELIN'
Another Phase Four record and this one with a classic groovy discotheque
cover.
I buy almost every record I see with choirs doing lullabye versions of rock
songs so I would have had to buy this anyway.
I find this kind of stuff very SOOTHING as long as they don't sound too
happy, such as on...

Ray Conniff HAPPINESS IS
"To a preacher it's a prayer prayer prayer.  To the Beatles it's a yeah,
yeah, yeah"
Somebody once introduced me to the term "IRRITAINMENT" and I can see this
record as a classic in the genre.  I have a version somewhere of a choir
doing "Blowin in the Wind" at this same jumpy happy beat.
I just don't like happy people, never have.
Then again the very next cut - Midnight Lace part 1- is kind of a downer.
I can't believe I'm keeping this.

Various Artists "GREAT SONGS OF BACHARACH AND DAVID" (on Quad!)
I don't think I ever heard the song "I'm a Better Man" which is done here
by Al Martino.  All I can say is that when Matt Monro can snooze his way
through one of your songs - "Close to you" - and not kill it, you know
you've got something.
There's a great snoozey cover by The Lettermen and a groovy one by "The
Sounds of Our Times".

Eddie Wayne "THE PING PONG SOUND OF GUITARS IN PERCUSSION"
Now here's a thread for this group.  Records that claim to have that ping
pong sound.  I keep buying them and more often than not, get disappointed.
But this is a real surprise!  There's not a single moment of ping pong
percussion on this whole record.  It's just a pretty raw, okay version of a
Duane Eddy record.  I can't tell the difference myself.  I'm just not sure
where to file this.  Was Eddy Wayne a known session guy?

Johnny Keating's Combo "PERCUSSIVE MOODS" Phase four
I almost bought this from someone on this list recently.
This guy is hit and miss for me.  But this is a direct hit, most of the way
through.
His versions here of "Bali Hai" and not-the-Tom-Jones "Delilah" are total
classics, destined to be on tapes for years to come... if I can keep it
straight in my head.

Los Brasilios (?) BRASILIAN BEAT 67
This is my second copy but I had to buy it anyway.  A great demonstration
of why you should always buy generic rip-off looking records.  The cover
leads you to believe it's a Sergio Mendes-style record, which it is.  I
don't know who they are or even if they're real or if that's them on the
cover.  I just know this is one of my better Brasilian-style records.

Sergio Mendes and Brasil 66
The green cover one.  Sergio has really gone way up in my estimation in the
last few years.  And then there's that record where he plays with
Cannonball Adderly.  But just good old classic Sergio is a lot cooler than
I remembered it.

Klaus Wunderlich HAMMOND SENSATIONS (on Hi Fi Telefunken)
I avoid Klaus's records usually but this one looked so different, sort of
like a George Wright records.  I don't know if I'm going to start buying
the other ones now but this is a pretty good organ record with a few
exotica classics.

Chad Mitchell "LOVE, A FEELING OF.."
I don't know why I include this as exotica except that I'm sure there are
some on this list who would love this.  I assume at the time this was filed
in a section with Noel Harrison and not much else.  Jazzy-folk music?  He
covers "Suzanne".  Has a bit of an Aznavour feel.  This might have
influenced Nick Drake and Scott Walker for all I know.  It's a keeper in
any case.

other highlights include some great album covers and:

24 SUPER HITS Tanz, Schlager, Stimmung
I took this exclusively for a person on this list who may someday pick it
up.  I don't know... I tried listening to it.  Sounds like a cross between
ABBA and overly joyous disco to me.  Takes all kinds, right?

El Chicano "Cinqo"  This is the second one of theirs I've picked up and
this is a good band.  I guess they were kind of Santana rip-offs but since
I'm not that familiar with them, I prefer them to Santana.

Jonathan Winters "It's a mad, mad etc.. world"
For me he's equally as unfunny as Robin Williams but he once was
supposedly. One of my most distinct childhood memories was when my father
made me watch the first TV interview Winters did after his nervous
breakdown in the fifties.  I distinctly remember all these closeups of his
shaking fingers holding a burning cigarette.  I guess I bought this as a
memorial to that and because it was there.

Which is why I buy most of this stuff.

Nat



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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 04:58:09 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lurkers

I'm sure I've written this before, but some lurkers are people who don't
speak English as a first language and don't necessarily want to take the
time to write stuff in English to the list. Lots of reasons to lurk, y'know...

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:06:45 +0100
From: dan hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new reviews in motion

dear people

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    http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/


- ---+ what's new:

    new reviews this week:

    Aranos - Transfixiatio (Noise Museum: Sound Escape)
    Baby Mammoth - Another Day At the Orifice (Pork)
    Cai Bojsen-Moller - Super-Sonic Jazzy Session (April)
    Max Brennan - Alien To Whom? (Sublime)
    Various Artists - Chinese Whispers (Sprawl)
    Min Xiao-Fen - With Six Composers (Avant)
    Jurassic 5 - Jurassic 5 (Pan)
    The Lounge Lizards - Queen of All Ears (Strange and Beautiful Music)
    Loren MazzaCane Connors - A Possible Dawn (hatNOIR)
    Derek and the Ruins - Tohjinbo (Paratactile)
    Calexico - The Black Light (City Slang)
    Hasidic New Wave - Jews and the Abstract Truth (Knitting Factory Works)
    Pablo's Eye - All She Wants Grows Blue (Swim)
    Jessica Bailiff - Even in Silence (Kranky)
    Guillermo Gregorio - Ellipsis (hatOLGY)

    http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/


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    motion is... interactive, constantly updated information
    and services covering a giddying array of music otherwise
    poorly served by the mainstream on- and off-line media ...

    [ new reviews DAILY with words, sounds, images  +---
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check it out.

thanks, and apologies for cross-postings

simon and dan.
              ---+ motion


- ---+ dan hill [state51]
    ---+ new reviews on motion [16.7.98]:
< guillermo gregorio, calexico, jessica bailiff, pablo's eye, derek and the
ruins, the lounge lizards, jurassic 5, min xiao-fen, loren mazzacane
connors, chinese whispers >
            http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/   +---




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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:51:09 +0100
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Charles Moseley: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?]

> From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
>
> I've only been buying records for 10 years now but I've learned one
> important lesson:
>
> ONLY buy records that you want.
>
> There we go. It's simple - if you go off and buy any LP that looks
> interesting or might be good, you'll waste your money and end up with a
> pile of crap records.
>

On the other hand, if you buy records that look good, you know that
they'll always LOOK good, even if the contain the world's worst
music. "Crap records with Top Covers" is a genre with numerous
sub-genres.

> Use your listening experiences and recommendations from others to determine
> what to buy, then go off and find it. If a record doesn't turn up for 10
> years, keep looking, but don't buy a Ray Conniff record because you're
> bored and there might be something interesting on it.

The only way to get listening experience is to listen. That means
acquiring the music. Yes, I use recommendations from friends and from
the list, but that only covers a fraction of what albums are out
there. The fun of collecting is finding out what's really out there,
and what *I* like.

> This rule also allows you to spend more money on the records that you
> really do want. e.g., If you finally see a copy of The Italian Job and its
> on your list, buy it. If it costs a lot (within reason), do it anyway. Its
> better to spend $100 on a record that you really want than $5 on one that
> might be good - and 20 crap records at $5 is $100 anyway (and you're left
> with 20 records you never play).

I wouldn't venture $5 equivalent on "experimental" buys. I'd rather
get 200 records at 25p each (or, better still, 500 for 10p) than spend
fifty quid on one record. I'm sure that within those 200 I've got a
hell of a lot more music that I'll enjoy just as much, if not more.

There is no single album I'd give 50 pounds for.



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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:20:00 +0100
From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?

Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
07/16/98 08:20 AM


To:   [e-mail] @ MCKINSEY
cc:
Subject:  Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?


"I wouldn't venture $5 equivalent on "experimental" buys. I'd rather
get 200 records at 25p each (or, better still, 500 for 10p) than spend
fifty quid on one record. I'm sure that within those 200 I've got a
hell of a lot more music that I'll enjoy just as much, if not more.

There is no single album I'd give 50 pounds for"

Surely, buying records that are cheap for the sake of it means that you=
 own
thousands of shit records that nobody else wants and that you don't wan=
t
either. Bulk buying and buying for the sake of buying is ignorant. Wher=
e is
the skill, sense, critical judgement, knowledge etc? I know and everybo=
dy
else knows that you're never going to come across Get Carter in a chari=
ty
shop no matter how many records you snap up from them. So when the LP c=
omes
up at a collectors shop for =A3100, its important for you to go and buy=
 it.
1.  You will have a superb record.  2. You will have a record that, whe=
n
you're bored with it you can sell on,  3.  You will enjoy the record.

Remember:  ONLY buy what you want, ignore everything else.


Charlie

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:29:45 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Glasgow Phuture Lounge club

Hey all!

If any of you are going to be in the Glasgow area, check out Russels pub on
Byres Road at 8pm till 11pm on Sundays. DJ Mingo-go spins an electric and
eclectic mix of Phuture Lounge weekly. Totally free. In a pub. I had a
audition gig a few weeks ago, and in fact, it went really well.

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 98 09:51:44 Pacific Daylight Time
From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) My Two Cents

Hello!

This is my contribution to the some of the recent threads.

I love the song Happiness Is. But believe me, I do realize how irritating it is, just like the song "Open Up
Your Heart And Let The Sunshine In". So I must be a sado-masochist.

I get Ed Sullivan re-runs every day at 4:30. Some recent guests include, Jackie Wilson, Peggy Lee, The
Righteous Brothers, Connie Francis, Al Hirt, Louis and Keely, Louis Armstrong, Gladys Knight, and Richard
Pryor. In one episode Connie Francis sang a medley of Judy Garland hits and was directly followed by
Richard Pryor, talk about variety. In another episode Peggy Lee did a duet with the Righteous Bros. on "Yes
Indeed", and it was a great moment.

As for retro swing, all I can say is that when the boom is ever, people like Brian Setzer(?) and Big Bad
Voodoo Daddy will be sitting on their asses in the un-employment line. I realize that a lot of people really like
them, but I just can't help thinking that they are nothing but poseurs. By that I mean they are campy elements
of a nostalgia trend rather then genuine practicioners of the genre. Sort of like Bette Midler in a way. They
just can't be taken seriously. But I ramble on. Please don't flame me.

As for Nat Kone's recently coined term "irritainment", I should tell you that The Doodletown Pipers and The
New Christy Minstrels (later recordings) beat Ray Conniff hands down. But I love them anyway.

Take care, everyone. Remember, this is just my opinion, and I respect everyone with a different opinion.

Darren!


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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:45:20 +0100
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?

> From [e-mail] Thu Jul 16 13:13 BST 1998
>
> Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
> 07/16/98 08:15 AM
>
> > "I wouldn't venture $5 equivalent on "experimental" buys. I'd rather
> > get 200 records at 25p each (or, better still, 500 for 10p) than spend
> > fifty quid on one record. I'm sure that within those 200 I've got a
> > hell of a lot more music that I'll enjoy just as much, if not more.
>
> > There is no single album I'd give 50 pounds for"
>
> Surely, buying records that are cheap for the sake of it means that you=
> own thousands of shit records that nobody else wants and that you
> don't want either. Bulk buying and buying for the sake of buying is
> ignorant. Where is the skill, sense, critical judgement, knowledge
> etc? I know and everybody else knows that you're never going to come
> across Get Carter in a charity shop no matter how many records you
> snap up from them.

Let's put a similar case:

> Surely, buying books that are cheap for the sake of it means that you=
> own thousands of shit books that nobody else wants and that you
> don't want either. Bulk buying and buying for the sake of buying is
> ignorant. Where is the skill, sense, critical judgement, knowledge
> etc? I know and everybody else knows that you're never going to come
> across a first edition of Alice in Wonderland in a charity shop no
> matter how many books you snap up from them.

Does this sound like a convincing argument for not buying cheap books
from charity shops? Sure, if you bought EVERYTHING you'd end up with
a lot of shit. But no one does that. Not just "for the sake of
it". You choose what to read on the basis of authors you know, genres
you like, blurbs that sound appealing.

I don't care about collectable records, I want *interesting*
records. It is only by listening to as wide a range of things as
possible that my sense of "skill, sense, critical judgment, knowledge,
etc." has developed, and continues to develop. What I select to buy
relies on my knowledge of what I have heard before, plus that "third
nostril" sense of what might be new and interesting.

It's unlikely that you find some EXACT record like "Get Carter" in a
charity shop. But I found my copies of the soundtracks to "I Want To
Live", "Playtime", "Superfly TNT", "El Topo" etc., etc. in charity
shops. I compare the 2 pounds I paid for the lot to the 20 pounds plus
for each that I've seen dealers charge. That leaves plenty of money
for mistakes. How badly do I want that EXACT album? Not badly
enough. There's very little that I am absolutely *panting* for. There
are so many great albums.

> So when the LP comes up at a collectors shop for =A3100, its
> important for you to go and buy it. 1.  You will have a superb
> record. 2. You will have a record that, when you're bored with it you can
> sell on, 3.  You will enjoy the record.
>
> Remember:  ONLY buy what you want, ignore everything else.

How do I know what I want before I've heard it? There are many artists
I love who I'd never heard of before buying their records.



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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 98 10:04:04 Pacific Daylight Time
From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WELK: Welkisms

I got this from my Lawrence Welk mailing group and it was so damm funny I had to send it along. I hope you
enjoy it as much as I did.

Darren
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>From: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: WELK: Welkisms
>Date: July 16, 1998
>
>I found my list after scrounging around my apartment.  So I thought I
>would share it with you all.  Hope you enjoy.
>
> --Christopher
>
>**************************
>WELKISMS: A Wunnerful Way With Words
>(Compiled by Dick Wilson, a sound mixer who worked on "The Lawrence Welk
>Show" for more than three decades)
>
>"Now the band will play a medley of tunes from World War Eye [World War
>I]."
>
>During an audience warm-up: "I just wrote a book, but don't go out and
>buy it yet, because I don't think it's finished yet."
>
>"There are good days and there are bad days, and this is one of them."
>
>Introducing a guest performer: "His act may start out slow, but it
>tapers off."
>
>When an audience was not responding with generous applause: "I see we
>have a few sourpussies in the group tonight."
>
>Referring to rock music: "That's not my cup of dish."
>
>"How do you spell conductor after C-U-N?"
>
>To the band just before going on the air: "Boys, look like you're having
>fun, but don't have any."
>
>"I just had an idea that went right over my head."
>
>Introducing the high potentate at a Shriner's convention: "Ladies and
>Gentlemen, your high totem pole."
>
>To his stand-in: "Whenever you have a minute I'd like to see you right
>now."
>
>To a band member: "I never realized that your hair was so close to your
>head before."
>
>To a performer who apologized for being late and said he had no excuse:
>"That's no excuse."
>
>About a vocalist who auditioned: "She has a nice voice, but she looks a
>little bit too much like Eleanor Roosevelt."
>
>To the dress rehearsal audience about the use of a phony turkey on the
>set of a Thanksgiving show: "Don't worry, folks, this will be a real
>turkey when it gets on the air."
>
>To the person who wrote his cue cards: "Don't use the word 'dat' (that).
>I can say 'dis' (this), but I can't say 'dat' (that)."
>
>"I just let it in one ear and out the top of my head."
>
>When a group of people came in to discuss problems in the band: "You
>know, when people band together, it causes a house divided."
>
>Referring to a singing duo he first heard perform at a nightclub: "They
>were so good, I could hardly wait to get out of there."
>
>When he found the Hollywood Palace stage to be too small to accomodate
>the whole band: "Fire four feet of the band."
>
>"I'm keeping perfect time.  I"ll get my barometer (metronome) and prove
>it."
>
>Then there was the time he accused a vocal group of being out of
>lip-sync when they were singing live.
>
>"Boys, if you don't stick together, how do you expect me to follow
>you-ah?"
>
>"You know, it's a long world."
>
>To the pianist who was rehearsing: "Why do you do that?  You play too
>many notes already."
>
>"That's what really broke the camel's straw."
>
>After a jet plane flew over and disrupted rehearsal: "You know, those
>jet planes make masonic booms."
>
>To the accordionist: "You go over there and play the accordion.  I'll
>stay here and beat off the band."
>
>Asking the guitarist to accompany a guest vocalist: "Get behind her over
>here, and give her a nice feel."
>
>Inviting the Wisconsin Cheese Queen in the audience to come up on stage
>and dance: "Come up here and let us see you cut the cheese."
>
>After a production number in which the Champagne Lady sang of unrequited
>love: "Yes, she sure looks like a woman who has been tampered with."
>
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>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:56:29 -0600
From: "Mark B. Conklin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Loungecore

'Loungecore' is definitely a later, and i think English, construction.

But, people were referring to non-electronic bands like Love Jones and
Friends Of Dean Martinez as loungecore way before bands like Tipsy or
Dimitri In Paris were around. I always thought it had more to do with
lounge bands that had roots in punk. Of course, maybe the definition has
changed. Or, maybe the definitions are all meshed together anymore.

About this whole swing revival: It's freaking huge in Denver. It bums me
out slightly because the same clubs that I used to dig for the music and
atmosphere are now overrun by Denver's typical bar crowd.  I guess it's
that "I found it first" mentality that I just need to get over. Although,
these same bars that I used to just chill at make me take my ballcap off
now and charge me $8 for a B&B.

Drag.

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:07:21 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) pre-Kon Tiki

Subject: Cool Fact: Early Seafarers
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    The Learning Kingdom's Cool Fact of the Day for July 16, 1998
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
           How long ago were the first known ocean voyages?
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

The first known ocean voyages took place over 800,000 years ago!

Stone tools found on the Indonesian island of Flores have shown that
the human ancestor Homo erectus was capable of seafaring journeys.
When the tools were made, the island was 19 kilometers from the
mainland, a significant trip for early hominids.

Before this find, the earliest known ocean voyages were from 40,000 to
60,000 years ago.  The new discovery shows that Homo erectus was more
advanced than people had thought.

More about the new discovery:
http://www.une.edu.au/publicity/smiths/19980313/morwood.html

A detailed article about similar discoveries:
http://www.he.net/~archaeol/9703/etc/specialreport.html




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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:00:38 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Do you actually like this stuff?

At 01:20 PM 16/07/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Surely, buying records that are cheap for the sake of it means that yo=
u own
>thousands of shit records that nobody else wants and that you don't wa=
nt
>either.

I recognize this point of view.  I have a few friends who subscribe to =
it.
But I don't know anyone who subscribes to it so thoroughly that they ne=
ver
root through dusty boxes of cheap records
If the writer here never does it, I'd say that shows remarkable
self-control and clarity. And focus.
None of which I have... or want, especially when it comes to records.

> Bulk buying and buying for the sake of buying is ignorant.

Ignorant.  Okay...
If my project or my goal was as clear as that of the writer of those wo=
rds,
I might agree with him.  If you want a strong contingency of records wh=
ich
have been IDENTIFIED as classics in the genre of your taste, then the m=
ost
efficient thing to do is wait for other people to go through the bins a=
t
the thrift store and then buy the records from them at whatever price t=
hey
choose.

I'm tempted to list all the "classic" and "identified" records I've
purchased at anywhere from a half a dollar to five dollars.  But that w=
ould
only make sense if my goal was to collect those records.  It's not.
I don't have a goal.=20
My goal is to go look for the records, not to go find particular record=
s. =20
My goal is to go find records that I DIDN'T KNOW I WANTED until I saw t=
hem
there that moment.
The fact that I have a bunch of records that are known, "classics",
"collector's items", identified or could-have-been-expensive is an
inevitable COINCIDENCE but that's all it really is.  It's a little bonu=
s
that occasionally occurs.

> Where is the skill, sense, critical judgement, knowledge etc?=20

I love it when I read a point of view which is so opposite to my own.
I could make a comment about critical judgement as it pertains to accep=
ting
the opinions of others as compared to making your own judgements but I =
know
that everyone has to use their own judgement at some point.

When someone tells me I have great records, I never say "Ah that's beca=
use
I have such skill as a record buyer".  No, I say "Ah that's because I'm
obsessed and inevitably a few great records get caught up in the net".

>I know and everybody else knows that you're never going to come across=
 Get
>Carter in a charity shop no matter how many records you snap up from t=
hem.=20

Well "never" is such a strong word but I agree that at this point, I'm
probably not going to find the sountrack to "The Party".
But that's a rather ironic thing for the writer here to be saying.  One=
 of
the reasons we're unlikely to find those records there is because "peop=
le
like him" are willing to buy them at exorbitant prices.

If I was going to the thrift stores with the express purpose of finding=
 an
Esquivel record, I agree at this point, that would be foolish.  But I c=
an
dream about it.  And it's not such a dream; it's come true twice.
The other thing about this idea of buying the records in shops or
exclusively from dealers is that there are some records that I think ar=
e
easier and even more efficient to look for in shops, as long as that's =
not
the prime reason you're there.
You should never be in a thrift store primarily to look for certain rec=
ords.
Having said that, I love MANCINI records.  I've gone through a lot of b=
eat
copies and I did buy one from a dealer once.  But I don't see a lot of =
them
in stores or on lists.  Where I see them are in thrift stores and that'=
s
why I have a pantload of them.

>So when the LP comes up at a collectors shop for =A3100, its important=
 for
you to >go and buy it.  1.You will have a superb record.

Well "important" is a funny word there but let's skip that.
One of the reasons I don't do this is because my average as far as lovi=
ng
records I bought at collector's prices, is only slightly better than my
average for records I picked up in a garbage can.
You pay even $10 for a record and it turns out to be another okay recor=
d,
now that's disappointing.  Especially if you had all this emotion inves=
ted
in how great it was going to be.
You will get a record that someone else calls superb, that's all you ca=
n
really say.

> 3.  You will enjoy the record.

Maybe, maybe not.  No matter where you got it, that's always the case.

>Remember:  ONLY buy what you want, ignore everything else.

Remember: ONLY do this if you know what you want and you only want what=
 you
know.

I'm only on this list as an interesting offshoot from the fact that I l=
ove
looking through bins of records.  Yeah this list and other things have
created a little mental want-list but if you gave me the choice of doin=
g
what I do now or sending me ONE record on that want list every week and=
 if
I couldn't do both, there's no question which I'd choose.

Still, gotta love that strongly held opinion...as long as it's only abo=
ut
records.

Nat



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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 98 12:53:58 Pacific Daylight Time
From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) NEW! Download The Free RealPlayer G2

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:55:51 -0400
From: "Robin D. Laws" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) NEW! Download The Free RealPlayer G2

Folks -

Speaking of RealAudio, I've been unsuccessfully searching for
an exotica-like RealAudio radio feed.  Any recommendations?

Take care >>> Robin


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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 98 13:07:45 Pacific Daylight Time
From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Radio Feed Of Sorts

Maybe this will help, Robin
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>From: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (exotica) misanthropy 961 playlist & now online
>Date: July 13, 1998
>
>
>MISANTHROPY 961--p.o.box 23093--detroit, mi 48223 u.s.
>e-mail: [e-mail]
>
>CJAM is now online with Real Audio. You can now hear Misanthropy 961
>every Sunday night(Monday morning)from midnight -2 am e.s.t. live on
>your computer. Write yourself a note to stay up late/get up early. Look
>for us at: http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/live.htm
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:45:34 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band

At 12:48 -0600 98/07/14, Mimi Mayer wrote:

>>The Roto Rooter Good Time Christmas Band :"Retro Rooter" CD
>Sounds like the less sedated lost brothers of Texas's own Brave Combo

    they don't sound like the good folks of Brave Combo AT ALL!
    they're deeeeeeemented, wacky, crazy; i find Brave Combo a bit too
    serious myself ;-)

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:57:12 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Lucia Pamela

>From: <[e-mail]>
>Is this a must-buy space classic?

    i think it is a must-buy. period. not typical outer space exotica,
    though, more "psychedelic space DIY serious novelty" record.
    Dave Davidson description(Mrs. Miller on acid) is right on. buy it.

        Johan


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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:50:31 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: cheapest cleaning machine

>From: Clark Scheffy <[e-mail]>

>You can get a machine (and a gallon of cleaning fluid) from Audio Advisor at
><http://www.audioadvisor.com/>www.audioadvisor.com for about $200. The machine
>is made by Nittgy Gritty (same vacuum power), but sold as the "Record Doctor"
>under the Audio Advisor brand. The only difference from the Nitty Gritty base
>model is that you turn the records yourself, as opposed to the motorized
>action of the Nitty Gritty machines.

    heck, NO! the cheapest models of Nitty Gritty are manual too!
    i had to pay mine BEF14000 (which is roughly $360 or GPB 230)
    and everything is manual; no problem there, it's easy, takes about 1
    minute to clean both sides.

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:34:43 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) cheap records part one

Glenn Close was in "Up With People"


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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:53:25 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) DJ night in Boston

This may be a bit off track but people in the Greater Boston area who like
disco (pre-radio, club-oriented disco) Thursday Nights  Trattoria Il Panino,
295 Franklin St., Boston presents "Reunion" with DJ's Zino, Eddie "B" and
Jimmy Botticelli on the third floor from 10:30 pm til closing..You'll hear all
the stuff you never hear anymore from the clubs like Zelda's, Fan Club,
Felix's, The Rhino, and Cache....If you drop bu, come to the booth and say
hi........jimmy botticelli/sorry about the rants at lurkers, i had a horrible
car-buying experience and was "transferring my anger"


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