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exotica-digest Friday, July 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 140
In This Digest:
(exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music" (shameless plug)
(exotica) Re: Frankie Capp
(exotica) A&M needs to get with it
(exotica) cocktail jazz!
(exotica) Don Tiki goes online
(exotica) Poptart: Tiki parties, New Wave and Sinatra
Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It
(exotica) book review
(exotica) Re: Claudine Longet
Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc
Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It
Re: (exotica) Swing to the right ("Real" Instruments?!?)
(exotica) Jean-Jaques Perrey was in Bxl
(exotica) montez/trini
Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it
(exotica) Beanies, Bird Calls, and Bongos
(exotica) Highly Strung/JB/Wrong About Boys
Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It
(exotica) beanie baby Failed flame... do not reply
Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it
Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it
(exotica) A&M stuff
Re: (exotica) A&M stuff
(exotica) We're not dead yet...
Re: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers....
(exotica) Lounge credentials?
Re: (exotica) Beanies, Bird Calls, and Bongos
Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc
(exotica) The Italian 6Ts Girly Pop tape
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0400
From: "m.ace" <ecam@voicenet.com>
Subject: (exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music" (shameless plug)
Freshly posted at my website (link below) is "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music", a
rambling interview with musician, Joe Jack Talcum, on the subject of kiddie
records. Includes a batch of cover scans. If you're interested, I hope you
enjoy it. Apologies if you're not interested.
m.ace ecam@voicenet.com
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:51:17 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <Quiet@village.uunet.be>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Frankie Capp
>From: Byron Caloz
>2012 Henry Mancini,
>I am especially interested in 2012.
i think it's on cd, IF it is the same record:
Frankie Capp Percussion Group: "Mancini in percussion"
CD, Laserlight, USA, 1996
The "eXotica Releases Overview": <http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/>
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 11:09:42 -0600
From: "Mark B. Conklin" <mconklin@idcomm.com>
Subject: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it
With all of the recent [great] reissues coming out on labels like Verve,
Capital, Polygram, Blue Note, BMG and others, doesn't it seem like A&M are
slacking a bit? I would love to see some of Sergio Mendes, Claudine, Herb
Alpert, etc. late 60s and early 70s recordings reissued. I think A&M are
missing the boat. No time like right now to get these releases out. I
noticed some of them were rereleased in Japan, but for all practical
purposes, that doesn't really do me any good.
Anyone have any info on why they aren't rereleasing these? If they are
releasing these - when and what?
Thanks -
MC
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:42:19 -0400
From: Michael Hibarger <hibarger@aware.com>
Subject: (exotica) cocktail jazz!
Lalo Schifrin also teamed up with organist Jimmy Smith for _The Cat_.
Which, by the way is something good for your exotica dance comp...
I would also add Lee Morgan's "Sidewinder", do these count as exotica?
I guess they're more jazz...but they would most likely definitely appeal
to many of the folks on this list as they are a hipster, swingier,
cocktail
jazz, as opposed to free jazz, jazz fusion, jazz rock, etc.
I would also throw in "Bond St." by Burt Bacharach...
Mike.
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 08:44:05 -1000
From: Lloyd Kandell <loidlink@pixi.com>
Subject: (exotica) Don Tiki goes online
Aloha y'all-
Hope i'm not wearing out my lauhala mat here... just very excited that
cmj online (www.cmj.com) chose us for today's review. check it out, and
if it lights your tiki torch... they kick you over to cdnow.com where
they have a pre-release special price of $10.99. And Michele, we ain't
no surf band. Hope everyone has a great 4th! Now where was that mai
tai...
Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:18:08 -0700
From: jasmine j jopling <jasminej@sfgate.com>
Subject: (exotica) Poptart: Tiki parties, New Wave and Sinatra
hi kids,
well, it's thursday again, which means my weekly doodad list of things to
do in the Bay Area has been updated. Luckily, there are some really good
4th of july options.... Surf Parties, Polynesian parties and more. Check
it out, if you're into that sort of thing.
thanks!
jasmine
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:39:44 -1000
From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk)
Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It
>I'm tempted to put together a comp of nothing but killer tunes like these
>that will drive listeners into a non-stop dance frenzy leading into a
>higher level of consciousness and boogiosity.
>
>Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land?
These come to my mind:
"Congo Train" Les Baxter
"The Coffee Song" Frank Sinatra (Reprise version)
"Boogie Juice" The Sound Gallery
"Saturday Night on Saturn" Les Baxter
"It's A Lovely Day Today" Astrud Gilberto
"These Boots..." Nancy S.
*** *** ***
Steve Funk
(sfunk@pop.adn.com)
Anchorage, AK
USA
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:59:27 -0700
From: jasmine j jopling <jasminej@sfgate.com>
Subject: (exotica) book review
this is from today's SF Examiner:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/hotnews/stories/02/loun
ge.dtl
- -jasmine
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:33:41 -0700
From: Eb <gondola@deltanet.com>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Claudine Longet
>From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <davidson@serv.net>
>
>So, speaking of Claudine: On the album "Claudine" (A&M SP 4121), she sings
>a duet with an uncredited male singer on "A Man and a Woman (Un Homme Et
>Une Femme)." Does anyone know the identity of the man singing with her on
>that track?
<gulp> No....
>From: <Jbtwist@aol.com>
>
>Go here,
> <A HREF="http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/longet.html">Cuddle Up
>With Claudine Longet!</A>
>
>I mentioned the Stones song "Claudine" here a while back, and the lyrics and
>tons of Claudine info are now posted on this site. Have a look, I think her
>gravity-defying-towel photo may still be there there too.
Yeah, go there!
See gravity defied at
http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/weve.gatefold.html
Eb
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 16:38:52 -0400
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc
At 03:02 AM 02/07/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote:
>Yes, this is always a problem. I'd always like to see good things become
>successful. I think most of the music I like SHOULD have mass appeal.
I dream about a world where that is possible but when I wake up I realize
that the two things are mutually exclusive.
>However, what I don't like about "trends" is that this is often based on a
>core group pursuing something because they really like it,and the rest
>pursuing it because they think they should. It is "in", and they don't want
>to be left out. These people annoy me.
You know, I wish I could say that I always know which of those two groups I
belong to but I don't think I can.
I'm always asking myself "do you like this OR do you like it because it's
cool?" One of the latest manifestations of that is with all this Fat
Possum blues stuff like R.L.Burnside and Junior Kimbrough and now even
Hasil Adkins is on the label too. But I saw a bunch of them in concert
recently - including Hasil - and I THINK I genuinely like it.
Still when you were once as obsessed with being cool as I think I was -
except of course I never let on (because that would be the UN-coolest) -
it's hard to believe you've matured enough not to care anymore.
A friend of mine once said that ANY record collection, as long as it was
thorough enough in its focus, would be inherently cool. Even R.E.O.
Speedwagon or Pablo Cruise - were they kind of exotica??? - or god forbid,
those anti-christs of rock, the Moody Blues. As long as the obsession was
deep.
I found that frightening but had to agree.
Nat
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 16:38:47 -0400
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It
At 04:48 AM 02/07/98, Brad Bigelow wrote:
> I've noticed there are a few
>tunes that invariably bring out the boogie in people.
>Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land?
A friend of mine/DJ played a version one night of "I'm coming home" by Mel
Torme that rocked my world. That's at the top of my list right now.
I've heard that "Mr.Giant Man" by James Last from "Voodoo" is a guaranteed
dance floor smash. The whole record just sounds like warmed-over Santana
to me but I guess warmed-over Santana is better than warmed-over Chicago.
Obviously the difference between "YMCA" and swing for instance, is that
anybody can dance to it. I guess that's why they played a "hora" and the
"bunny hop" at every bar mitzvah I ever went to.
I guess that's why I still have a soft-spot for "the Freddy" even though
you don't get to show off that knowledge anymore.
One more. Roberto Delgado's surprisingly cool - for him - reggae-tinged
version of "Venus". Reggae always seemed to inspire the non-dancers in my
crowd.
Nat
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:41:52 -0400
From: "m.ace" <ecam@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Swing to the right ("Real" Instruments?!?)
> We need massive numbers of todays supposed "musicians"
> to actually go to school and learn how to play REAL instruments (i.e.,
> something other than the guitar, bass or drums) before there can actually be
> an legitimate exotica revival.
It's not the instrument -- it's what you do with it that counts.
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 98 00:48:58 +0100
From: Boris Bissia Bertrand <eyecon@dma.be>
Subject: (exotica) Jean-Jaques Perrey was in Bxl
Jean-Jaques Perrey have a new album out on the Basenotic (french
label - I guess Jack told you ) and he was playing live with the band
recently in Bruxelles ( Belgium - Europe ),
I had the chance to enjoy the concert and meet him in person
with all is younger crew !
They were all ( Chazam and all his crew ) formidable ( it's a french word
) and
Mr. Perrey is a very very kind person, very deep, serious and humorous.
I was very touched by the live music and by the man plus all his team.
A funny impression was that Jean-Jacques Perrey doesn't like tomatoes on
pizzas.
Also :
Check soon the Basenotic label for upcomming new great release, a
great fun ecletronika album from David Chazam.
PS : David if you read this, I let you know : I love that one.
Thanks a lot Mr. Perrey and you all within the crew.
======== ====
Beauty is a creation of love
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:09:13 -0800
From: "paul m." <mighty65@pacbell.net>
Subject: (exotica) montez/trini
>Chris Montez, is to my opinion, Trini Lopez a few years later.
>Sorry if I offended anyone.
heya !?!! don't dis mr. trini ! i'm his numero uno fan on the planet.
i talk to him on the phone occassionally... and yes had a hand in him
soon coming out of retirement. sorry :) if yer not so inclined...but i love
him always have for some peculiar reason. ask tosh, its true!
paul moshay/mighty recording corp.
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:19:22 -0800
From: "paul m." <mighty65@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it
i wouldn't hold your breath. with the merger of Polygram and MCA (they
call it Universal, this week :) .... i doubt exhaustive exploitation of deep
catalog titles is on much of anyone's minds there. fyi, A&M is part of
Polygram ...particularly when it comes to 'catalog A&R" these days.
mostly all these people are sitting around wondering if they will have a
job next month.
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p.s. - its Capitol Records, not CapitAL Records.
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 19:21:34 -0400
From: Geoff Hill <hillobeans@wildaboutbeanies.com>
Subject: (exotica) Beanies, Bird Calls, and Bongos
In a message dated 98-07-01 12:32:15 EDT, robert writes:
> IF there are any Beanie Baby fans/collectors on this list:
> Please keep that information to yourself because I do not
> want consider the ramifications of a
> person being a fan of exotica also being a fan of beanie babies.
I'm a speculator/collector of items of pop culture that have become overvalued
quickly, and enjoy the fact that I can reap profits AND pleasure (both mine
and that of my customers) through attentive collecting, including exotica LPs.
I've sold both to many people, generally older women buying things for their
grandchildren and other relatives. They know what these kids want.
You should see Freckles the leopard "lounging" in his martini glass, or
spinning Martin Denny tunes sitting on the center of the turntable! Too
precious for you to appreciate, I'm afraid!
Hey... these displays _do_ get people in off the street.
Robert, I'm sorry if realized your fear that people like me might exist. Get
used to it. Curious as I am, just what ARE "the ramifications" of
cross-collecting and cross interests like this?
In love with beanies and their buyers,
Geoff Hill
"If it's too cute, it isn't cute enough!"
"F*ck 'em if they can't take a joke."
- -anonymous
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 16:47:31 -0700
From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <davidson@serv.net>
Subject: (exotica) Highly Strung/JB/Wrong About Boys
I recently picked up a Sequel sampler disc called "The Loungecore
Experience", which culls two tracks off of five different compilations.
Two of them I already have (20 Loungecore Favorites and Sound Spectrum),
but three I don't. As the two I have contain the year and songwriter's
last name for each track, I'm hoping someone might have the other three
discs, and might be kind enough to forward me the year and songwriter,
either on the list or e-mailed direct. Here they are:
A) Highly Strung (Sequel 1013-2)
1. The Ravens - Ghoul Friend
2. Ahab and the Wailers - Neb's Tune
B) Meet James Bond (Sounds Orchestral) (Sequel 1011-2)
1. Sounds Orchestral - Kissy Suzuki
2. Sounds Orchestral - Moonshot
C) You Can Be Wrong About Boys, Vol. 1 (Sequel 1012-1)
1. Peanut - Thank Goodness For the Rain
2. Barbara Kay - Someone Has to Cry (Why Must I)
If anyone has the dates and songwriter(s) for these, I would sure
appreciate a posting or a direct e-mail. Thanks!
Dave
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 14:21:46 +0000
From: Ron Grandia <rgrandia@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It
> I guess that's why I still have a soft-spot for "the Freddy" even though
> you don't get to show off that knowledge anymore.
Mark my words (Iiii'mmmm Tellllinnngg youuuu nooooowwww....Sorry,
getting carried away
by Freddy Mania) There WILL be a time when Freddy and the Dreamers,
Hermans Hermits and
whole scene will be HUGE again.
Granted, it will likely be the result of some half-funny Mike Meyers
movie and more likely be brief, but back it will be; and won't you look
grand at the one wedding you attend that summer showing all the kiddies
how to do the Hully Gully.
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:20:18 -0400
From: "Ray Coffey" <Ray_Coffey@hmco.com>
Subject: (exotica) beanie baby Failed flame... do not reply
Please accept my apologies for my poorly crafted flame.
The return e-mail address is valid,
(hillobeanies@wildaboutbeanies.com)
so reply to me, NOT the address that I faked.
I'd rather they not receive any unwanted mail.
I should have known better.
My apologies and regrets are offered.
Ray
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:57:08 EDT
From: <BasicHip@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it
mark said:
<< With all of the recent [great] reissues coming out on labels like Verve,
Capital, Polygram, Blue Note, BMG and others, doesn't it seem like A&M are
slacking a bit? I would love to see some of Sergio Mendes, Claudine, Herb
Alpert, etc. late 60s and early 70s recordings reissued...>> *cut*
paul said:
<<i wouldn't hold your breath. with the merger of Polygram and MCA (they
call it Universal, this week :) .... i doubt exhaustive exploitation of deep
catalog titles is on much of anyone's minds there.>>
????? I just checked Footlight's site and came up with all of these for you.
Yes, I know the Longet's are pricey, but you should be able to get started
with Alpert and Mendes basics. Tower records has these too, except for the
Longet's, I suppose. Just check their site or, better yet, call the 800#. Of
course, my best advice is to invest in a turntable and open yourself up to the
wide, wonderful world of record collecting. Then you could walk into your
local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb
Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky,
you'll get a Claudine, too.
ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS FOUR SIDER A&M 15.95
ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS GREATEST HITS A&M 10.95
ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS GREATEST HITS VOL 2 A&M 11.95
ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS LONELY BULL A&M 11.95
ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS WHIPPED CREAM AND OTHER DELIGHTS A&M 11.95
LONGET, CLAUDINE BEST (A&M DIGITALLY REMASTERED) A&M 30.95
LONGET, CLAUDINE CLAUDINE A&M 30.95
LONGET, CLAUDINE COLOURS A&M 31.95
LONGET, CLAUDINE LOOK OF LOVE A&M 32.95
LONGET, CLAUDINE LOVE IS BLUE A&M 30.95
MENDES, SERGIO CLASSICS VOL 18 A&M 14.95
MENDES, SERGIO CRYSTAL ILLUSIONS A&M 28.95
MENDES, SERGIO FOOL ON THE HILL REBOUND 9.95
MENDES, SERGIO GREATEST HITS A&M 11.95
MENDES, SERGIO HERB ALBERT PRESENTS...A&M 32.95
MENDES, SERGIO VERY BEST OF S.M. AND BRASIL 66 (2CD) A&M 32.95
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:08:16 -0800
From: "paul m." <mighty65@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it
><<i wouldn't hold your breath. with the merger of Polygram and MCA (they
>call it Universal, this week :) .... i doubt exhaustive exploitation of deep
>catalog titles is on much of anyone's minds there.>>
>
>????? I just checked Footlight's site and came up with all of these for you.
>Yes, I know the Longet's are pricey, but you should be able to get started...
thx... knew of the imports (jap.) but really was referring to domestics which
would put them in the price range for most mortals. also, i keep seeing
lately
the first three bacharach titles at tower (jap. imports). at $30 a pop,
not many
are going to be building collections of those. i wish.
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:21:13 -0500
From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery)
Subject: (exotica) A&M stuff
>Then you could walk into your local Goodwill or Salvation Army and >pick
up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb Alpert you want in near mint >condition
for a buck each. If you get lucky,you'll get a Claudine, too.
You can't swing a dead cat round' here without finding that stuff.
Everytime I see one, I pick it up. How could a sweet, innocent, young
maiden like Claudine ever commit such a crime. Maybe Claudine should
make a comback and build a theatre in Branson next to Andy
Williams....what am I thinking!!! I'll shut up now.
Jeff
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:16:04 -0800
From: "paul m." <mighty65@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M stuff
>You can't swing a dead cat round' here without...
# hmm, we'll then i'll get my 'dead feline' and get over there ! heh hee.
>Everytime I see one, I pick it up. How could a sweet, innocent, young
>maiden like Claudine ever commit such a crime. Maybe Claudine should
>make a comback and build a theatre in Branson next to Andy
>Williams....what am I thinking!!! I'll shut up now.
# maan, one of my life's goals to to get to Branson and see Andy perform.
have one of those laserlight recent live cd's of him, and his voice is still
95% intact. great song selection too, for what essentially has to be
family fare entertainment.
paul moshay/mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:23:49 EDT
From: <Micheleflp@aol.com>
Subject: (exotica) We're not dead yet...
In a message dated 98-07-01 12:23:35 EDT, ecam@voicenet.com writes:
<< So, these wishes for lounge to be "over" so we can get back to obscurity
may
have come to pass, whether we like it or not. The media might even portray
swing as something that evolved out of lounge. And people on a Swing Mailing
List can have threads complaining about distorted stories about *their*
scene.
>>
Hey - I'm here in the media capital L.A. and I'm telling you that are
continuing to exploit it big time. Man, just look all around you - everywhere
you look there's a lounge-styled billboard/advertising or something. Then
you've got AMC, Nik At Nite and TV Land still trying to make a buck off it.
You've got these new cigar magazines and I'm in the middle of compiling a
fashion report for my next O&B column about all the exotica inspired clothing
that's being marketed now to the masses - this season is bigger than ever.
You should see my cool Espirit bags that look like I bought them at the swap
meet. Anyway, I could go on.... I don't think we've seen the end of the
exploitation bandwagon just yet.
- - Michele
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:23:44 EDT
From: <Micheleflp@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers....
In a message dated 98-06-30 22:00:37 EDT, you write:
<< I don't know Michele about the hoaky part of Setzer to which you allude...I
think he tears the roof off of "Town Without Pitney"..........I heard it
playing at Tower one day about a year ago and was floored I stopped dead and
just listened. That big band arrangement of such a priceless song struck me as
brilliant. A song often has to be judged by its own merits and not lumped into
a genre by the listener. >>
When we saw him he'd just started with that big band thing - this was about 3
years ago and I think he's evolved it since then, but both Mike and I thought
at the time that his band was really, really squaresville. Since we haven't
heard him since then I've probably made a "rush to judgement" - from the looks
of his album cover, it is probably a safe bet to say he's evolved his band
into a lounge thing, no?
- - Michele
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:23:46 EDT
From: <Micheleflp@aol.com>
Subject: (exotica) Lounge credentials?
In a message dated 98-07-01 00:09:20 EDT, jschwart@voicenet.com writes:
<<Why is it ok for hardcore punks to make the musical leap to lounge music
but it's not ok for Brian Setzer to make the arguably much shorter leap
from rockabilly (or big band music) to lounge? What's up with that?
I wasn't the hugest fan of the Stray Cats...but for what it's worth, Brian
Setzer was into retro looks and sounds way, way before 99-44/100 of the
people on this list. I have a hunch that includes you.
>>
I really don't like rockabilly and wasn't a fan of the Straycats either.
Perhaps that is why I don't like Brian Setzer, but when I saw his new band 3
years ago at an open air festival, I gave it a fair shake. When he started
the big band, it was just that - a big band sound. Now I haven't bothered to
check him out since that initial time 3 years ago because, frankly, we thought
his sound and act was a bore. Now I see he has a new album and its got tiki
mugs on it. I dont know what he's done between 3 years ago and now. So
perhaps it is just my perception that he is "capitlizing" on the lounge trend,
but perhaps he has been a big fan of lounge all this time. Who knows? Do
you?
I am certainly not trying to insinuate that one must have bonafide "lounge
credentials" or something. If that was my intention, I'd be a fool since I
only got into "the lounge scene" in late 1995 (and then I sort of wandered
around looking to meet other lounge people at gigs for a few months before I
got lucky and met DJ John Godin and then Otto of Tiki News) .
My Credentials:
I was a big fan of musicals and old movies and American popular music in
general since my childhood. In the early 90s I got big into collecting
reissues of early 1920s and 1930s music. I went "punk" when I was 16 yrs. old
in 1977, writing for Flipside Fanzine from about 1978 to 1984, then again
writing for Flipside from about 1993 to the present. Consequently have been
dressing and looking retro since 1977.
No offense was meant by my post, I was only making an observation.
- - Michele
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:02:52 -0700
From: "Ron Grandia" <rgrandia@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Beanies, Bird Calls, and Bongos
This is not a flame - I think we've hit something here...
>I'm a speculator/collector of items of pop culture that have become
overvalued
>quickly, and enjoy the fact that I can reap profits AND pleasure (both mine
>and that of my customers) through attentive collecting, including exotica
LPs.
>
I've never objected to anybody making a buck off of their knowlege and
ability.
The beanie baby thing bugs me though, and I'll tell you why: It's an
artificial value.
Remember Cabbage Patch dolls? Of course you do. You probably have at least
two
relatives or acquaintances who are still stuck with an attic full of these
travesties. I see them
at garage sales all the time. You can buy them for $5.00 or less.
Beanie Babies are cute but unremarkable in every respect. My 3 year old son
likes them, but I'll never pay $25.00 or more for a freaking stuffed animal
the size of a Happy-Meal toy. The kids who insist on having them at any cost
and the parents that comply.... Don't get me started! In fact they ARE Happy
Meal toys, though I'll be Goddamned if I ever battle the throngs of ladies
(the same ones Geoff speaks of so flatteringly) at Burger King to get one.
I'd hang my head in shame if I let my child see me behave the way they do:
Buying and discarding scores of burgers at a time just to hoard those crappy
toys. (They probably won't even let the Grandkids play with 'em because they
"will be worth something someday." The Ironic part is, these things will be
the ONLY items from this decade that WON'T be valuable because they'll be as
plentiful as Herb Alpert records. The stuff that is REALLY collectible are
the items people got rid of, like those
60's era model airplanes that kids across the nation blew up with
firecrackers. (You too?)
I repeat, this is not a flame... I can understand and have a great respect
for the desire to make hay, because the Sun is gonna shine regardless,
right?
About exotica records:
I deal almost exclusively with people who specialize and are passionate
about my areas of interest because despite their amazing expertise and deep
insight, they are INVARIABLY the most reasonable. We have discussed at great
length on this list the wonderful public service a knowlegeble record dealer
can be. (www.vinyllives.com comes to mind) What a convenience it is to be
able to turn to a dealer to obtain a mint-copy of some long-sought
treasure - A convenience I gladly pay for. I do agree that exotica records
are overvalued because of the recent wave of popular interest in the genre.
This overvalue is also due to the reaction of "mercenary" dealers that buy
according to trend and price arbitrarily high. I see dealers in my area sit
on records forever rather than price them reasonably. These are the guys
that watch you shop and love to tell you what a great deal the record your
are holding is, and how he just sold one just like it to a guy in japan for
twice as much. The nice by-product is that when the exotica market dries up
and it's time to liquidate, I'll be there... ready to shop! Example: Big
Al's Record Barn in Santa Clara is going out of business and EVERYTHING in
the store is $5.00. Great titles too. Too bad the vinyl quality is usually
shitty.
Good luck with the records, Geoff. I hope we can do business. Do you send
lists?
Oh, and about the Beanie Babies... SELL!
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:56:18 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <mingo@cqm.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc
>>However, what I don't like about "trends" is that this is often based on a
>>core group pursuing something because they really like it,and the rest
>>pursuing it because they think they should. It is "in", and they don't want
>>to be left out. These people annoy me.
>
>You know, I wish I could say that I always know which of those two groups I
>belong to but I don't think I can.
>I'm always asking myself "do you like this OR do you like it because it's
>cool?"
I didn't mean to imply that there were only two groups - I just meant that
when things start getting some exposure, some people might grab onto them
because they like them and have been exposed, others might grab onto them
because its cool. Lots won't jump on the boat at all, and then there are
others that actually launched the boat. Probably a few more groups out there
too...or even lone yachtsmen.
Jill "Mingo-go"
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 13:22:42 +0000
From: "Giovanni Berti" <giovanni@pirulazio.interim.it>
Subject: (exotica) The Italian 6Ts Girly Pop tape
Answering to requests of several friends in the exotica mailing list,
I recorded a C90 tape of italian female sixties pop. Here's the
tracklisting, with brief comments on single tracks.
TAPE SWAPPING IS WELCOME. Write me privately.
THE ITALIAN 6TS GIRLY POP
SIDE ONE:
Raffaella Carra': "Tuca Tuca" (1971)
Top Italian showgirl and anchor-woman (she's also big in Spain and
South America), scored a massive hit with this
how-to-dance-the-Tuca-Tuca song. The dance is basically a I Touch
You-You Touch Me answer tune, with high erotic power!
Le Gemelle Kessler: "La notte e' piccola" (1965)
The Kessler twins headed from Germany, via the Paris' Lido where they
permormed as "les jumelles du Lido". They have swinged their way
through almost every Italian public TV show from the sixties to
the seventies, and still pop up from time to time now. Nevertheless,
no one has ever learned to distinct who's Ellen and who's Alice.
Brenda Bis: "Per vivere insieme" (1967)
Pretty decent cover of Turtles' "Happy Together" by this soul sister
with great voice. On other side of this single - her only as Brenda
Bis - there's her powerful version of "Hold On! I'm Coming",
his time sung in English.
Lalla Castellano: "Pupa Ye' Ye'" (1965)
Ye' Ye' Twistin' - for all-girl early 6Ts fraternity afternoon dance
party.
Caterina Caselli: "Nessuno mi puo' giudicare" (1966)
Classic hit. She had a strong image and the song established Caterina
as a teen idol to every Italian teenager. It was first sung at the
1966 Festival di Sanremo, which is still (from 1950) the annual
contest of national popular song. At the time, every song had to be
sung by an Italian artist and by a foreigner (that's why we have such
a large heritage of foreign artists who recorded in Italian); Gene
Pitney sung the English version.
Eileen: "Questi stivali sono fatti per camminare" (1966)
Italian version of Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots Are Made For
Walking", sung with a slight French accent by Eileen, who was
actually a French singer. Words are translated literally, without
much care about rhyme and tempo, and that makes it quite hilarious to
listen, even for the Italian audience!
Lilly Bonato: "La sfida" (1964)
Not much known about Lilly, except she had a powerful voice and the
tune is rockin' twangy.
Petula Clark: "Ciao ciao" (1965)
British Pet scored planetary hit with "Downtown". This is the Italian
version, by the lady herself.
La Cricca: "Ora siamo grandi" (1964)
True girl group sound. Cover of Betty Everett's "It's In His Kiss"
(that Italians learned through the Searchers' version as "It's In Her
Kiss").
Dalida: "Bang Bang" (1967)
Melancholic French chanteuse singing her Italian rendition of classic
Cher ballad. She unfortunately committed suicide few years ago. Still
very loved in France and Italy as well.
Rita Pavone: "Il geghege'" (1966)
Enfant terrible of the Italian song, Rita started her career at
fifteen, and stayed at the top ever since. This song is uptempo
twistin' beat: makes your ass sway. She later was to marry the big
boss from her record company; same thing happened to Caterina
Caselli. For all you skeptics out there: after thirty years, both
couples are still getting along fine.
Lola Falana: "Tutta donna" (1967)
Brazilian HOT lady, who starred in few TV shows in the late sixties.
She has been the obligatory first nocturnal pollution to an entire
generation of youngsters. Now she has retired and is a NUN back in
Brazil.
Sylvie Vartan: "Zum Zum Zum" (1968)
Another French lady, but singing in Italian. She also starred in some
TV shows, along with R. Carra', the Kessler twins and L. Falana. She
was married to French R'n'R legend Johnny Hallyday.
Mina: "Ta-ra-ta-ta" (1966)
Unanimously, the best ever Italian female singer. Still today,
without a public appearence in the last 20 years, her records go
straight to number one just as they get released. An extraordinaire
voice, and a shame Whitney Houston is more famous than
her.
Supremes: "L'amore verra'" (1967)
Yes! The original Supremes singing for the Italian market "You Can't
Hurry Love". Many soul artists from Tamla Motown recorded their hits
in Italian, for our listening and dancing
pleasure.
Margherita: "Tu sei pallido" (1964)
Millie's "My Boy Lollipop" sung in Italian, cashin' in from the mid
sixties Blue Beat-Rock Steady-Ska craze.
Valeria Mongardini: "Asciuga asciuga" (1970)
The Archies' "Sugar Sugar". Valeria had a raucous voice that reminds
of Lulu's.
SIDE TWO:
Sandie Shaw: "Stop li' dove stai" (1968)
England's Sandie took her naked feet over Italian ground. Originally
penned by Chris Andrews as "Stop Before You Start".
Nada: "Ma che freddo fa" (1968)
Most beautiful smile among Italian girl singers. The song was to come
an evergreen classic of Italian pop music.
Annarita Spinaci: "Quando dico che ti amo" (1967)
Easy pop composed by guaglione Tony Renis. Just like his other
composition "Quando, Quando, Quando", the song met world success.
Helen Sedlak: "Ridi ridi" (1966)
Sexy blond stripper from Sweden, wailin' & singin' to the rhythm of
legendary Sam The Sham & the Pharaohs' "Wolly Bully". Heavy Farfisa
organ treatment.
Caterina Caselli: "Sono bugiarda" (1966)
6Ts Riot Grrrl anthem. Neil Diamond (via the Monkees') "I'm A
Believer" surprisingly translated in this Italian version as "I'm a
Liar". Notable fuzz guitar solo.
Claudia Mori: "Quello che ti dico" (1965)
More Frat Rock stompin'. It's Little Eva's "The Locomotion" Italian
rendition.
Supremes: "Se il filo spezzerai" (1967)
B side of that rare Diana & the Girls' Italian 45 release.
Renata Pacini: "Stop, in nome dell'amore" (1966)
What the Supremes didn't record in Italian themselves, has been aptly
covered by local soul femmes, as in the case of "Stop, In The Name Of
Love".
Caterina Valente: "Meta' di me" (1965)
My favorite Italian soul track. True Motown sound from a singer who
has abundantly recorded in five different languages (Italian,
English, French, German, Japanese), at least. I suspect it may be a
over (song is penned by Coburn and Ogerman), but never was I able to
track down original title and artist. Anyone?
Mina: "Brava" (1965)
Vocal virtuosity from the Lady of Italian song proving she's really
the one!
Le Gemelle Kessler: "Dadaumpa" (1962)
Alice & Ellen gyrate their looooong legs over the dancefloor. Tried
the Funky Chicken? Done The Dog and The Mashed Potatoes? Try shakin'
your thing to the Da-Da-Um-Pa!
Rita Pavone: "Datemi un martello" (1963)
Trini Lopez' "If I Had A Hammer" in galloping exotic singalong
style.
Cilla Black: "M'innamoro" (1966)
The Lennon & McCartney's song "Step Inside Love" is quite rare to
find, having only being recorded by Cilla Black. Even rarer is the
Italian version.
Patty Pravo: "Ragazzo triste" (1966)
Perhaps the most influential and idolized girl singer of Italy.
Sociologists say that in the sixties Patty Pravo gave the home keys
to an entire generation of teenagers. The song is cover to "But
You're Mine" from Sonny & Cher, who recorded a whole bunch of songs
in Italian. No wonder, 'cos Sonny was a Paisano.
Evy: "L'abito non fa' il Beatnik" (1966)
Stompin' electric R&B provided by deep throat Evy, honoring the
genius of Steve Winwood in this version of Spencer Davis Group's
"Keep On Runnin'".
Les Surfs: "Meritavi molto di piu'" (1966)
From Madagascar (!) headed Les Surfs, who made it to the Italian (and
French) market. Cover of the McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy".
Raffaella Carra': "Rumore" (1974)
We finish as we started, with Raffaella Carra' and her early
seventies fun-damental repertoire. This time it's a Glam Rock
explosion. Don't mind the cracking of record: "rumore" means "noise",
after all.
Hope you dig it! Let me know.
Gionni Paludi
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