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exotica-digest        Wednesday, June 10 1998        Volume 02 : Number 126



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)
(exotica) Booker T in Hawaii
(exotica) Gordini Mix - Alex Gopher
Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)
(exotica) record companies pay and pay
Re:  (exotica) Lyman vs. Denny
(exotica) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:46:39 -0500
(exotica) Help!  (Air)
(exotica) Bosstown
(exotica) Lyman vs. Denny -Reply
Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)
Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)
(exotica) Re: Denny vs. Lyman
Re: (exotica) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:46:39 -0500
Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues - payola
Re: (exotica) Re: Denny vs. Lyman
Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues - payola
Re: (exotica) record companies pay and pay
Re: (exotica) Help!  (Air)
Re: (exotica) Help!  (Air)
(exotica) Serge Gainsbourg... need help locating something and finding out if it exists..
(exotica) World Cup
(exotica) Who Composed
(exotica) He Composed!
Re: (exotica) He Composed!
Re: (exotica) Who Composed
(exotica) Re-Composed!
Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues - payola
Re: (exotica) Re-Composed!
(exotica) Payola
(exotica) Playlist for Jack, 5-17-98

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:12:07 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)

At 10:12 AM -0500 6/6/98, king kini wrote:

>they should have been budget-priced (2fers or not).

Financially impossible. The discs are too expensive to manufacture and
market. You have to understand that BarNone has to buy the fully
manufactured CD's from BMG  [through their Special Markets division] at a
cost of about $5 a disc, as well as paying publishing royalties on 24
tracks. Why do you think budget records are issued minus 2 tracks? To save
the money in order to make the release affordable as a budget title. Indie
labels have to buy a minimum amount of CD's from the major label; the
standard is 10,000 copies. So the indie has put up at least $50,000 for the
physical discs alone, before art work, jewel boxes, advertising and
promotion (the usual figure for these last 2 being around $20,000. It costs
a lot to put ad's in all those fanzines and magazines; it costs a lot to
get your disc in a Tower Listening Post; it costs a lot to make and send
out promo copies) They sell the discs to wholesalers at a markup of around
2 bucks. But if they only sell a thousand or two, that means they have made
back less than $5000, which puts them in the hole to the tune of at least
$45,000. Which, of course, is not a good hit for a business that doesn't
have pockets as deep as, say, Ted Turner's.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - the reason all of your favorite
records don't come out on CD is that the major labels make it too
expensive/risky a proposition for an indie. Scamp Records CEO Ashley Warren
is on this list and can reiterate all this and more. The most efficient way
for reissues to be realized (other than the majors doing them themselves,
which, for the most part, they won't - the limited sales potential is not
enough to justify their vast overhead and operating costs) is when a label
is part of the corporate conglomerate that owns the major as well (i.e.
Varese/MCA; Rhino/WEA; Scamp/EMI -hence the Denny and Barry reissues), or
the indie has bought (or acquired for marketing purposes) a specific
catalog  (Ryko/Hi-Fi//MGM-UA)

> by the time they came
>out (long after the initial trend had peaked), casual fans already had the
>three bar/none CDs (and probably two others).  ...and Esquivel addicts had
>probably tracked down original vinyl by that point.

Indeed. That's the point I brought up on my Esquivel Page in the last issue
of Exotica/Et Cetera. Those initial BarNone CD's sold beyond everyones
wildest expectations. Things were not helped by the fact that BMG's sole
Esquivel reissue had too many tracks that were already on the BarNone CD's,
and most of the previously reissued tracks were on the original albums
being reissued in the 2fer series.

>why doesnt bar/none at least release the once lost "See It in Sound"
>album?  NOBODY has those
>tracks, CD or LP.

That remains a very distinct possibility.

> i'll tell you what...  they oughta shoulda put that one
>out as the first in the series of reissues to generate interest again and
>get people buyin'.

Agreed, it would have been a good idea, but there were special
circumstances involved with that one - after all, it was not a *reissue* as
it had never been issued in the first place. At least, after 2 years of
searching, we found it. RCA had no listing of it in it's library inventory.
It was only after Neely Plumb gave me the matrix numbers from his acetate
(the only known copy of the album) that they were able to find the tapes,
and eventually, the paperwork (song titles, composers, etc).

>P.S.  the art directors at Bar/None should have taken a cue from Scamp's
>Denny reissue packaging.  yeah, yeah, the full covers were inside...  but
>that's not what the shopper first (or ever) sees.

I pushed for the Scamp approach, but BarNone felt that it was better to
indicate clearly on the cover that there were 2 full albums by showing the
covers of both albums on the sleeve. Considering that the German BMG issues
did show the full cover of a single album in the front, I have to agree
with BarNone - there would have been more consumer confusion if people saw
2 identical looking CD's of "Other Worlds, Other Sounds" or "4
Corners......." in the racks (as those German issues are very easy to find
in the states, especially at megastores like Tower, HMV and Virgin).

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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 09:05:43 -1000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Booker T in Hawaii

Aloha y'all-

Recent posts to the list commented on upcoming Bravo channel showing of
their new profile on Stax Records, as well as the desire for more
discussion of the great Booker T & the MGs here. I was fortunate enough
to be contacted by Bravo PR dept to arrange a pre-cocktail party with
Mr. "hip-hug-her" himself at a restaurant/lounge (ScooZee's Pau Hana
Lounge) this Wed, 6/10 before he goes next door @ Border's to blaze on
the Hammond B-3! Not sure if the MGs are with him... will report back to
the group.

Fluid "time is tight" Floyd/Don Tiki


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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:40:53 +0000
From: the_curator <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gordini Mix - Alex Gopher

Folks

is anyone interested in this spare CD i have of "Gordini Mix - Alex Gopher"
on Solid/V2. Tracks as follows:

1. Prepare to Qualify by Mister Learn
2. Original Version by Alex Gopher
3. P1 Fuel in L32 Mix by daphreephunkateerz
4. Brakes on Mix by Air
5. Roue Libre Mix by Bang Bang
6. The Lord of Monza Mix by Etienne de Crecy
7. Burn Out Mix by Mister Learn
8. Nikki Lauder Berbecue Mix by Extra Lucid

Total time 40 mins. If you are, mail me off-list with swap/money offers.

friendly

Sem Sinatra




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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 21:00:40 -0700
From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)

> it costs a lot to
> get your disc in a Tower Listening Post;

Sorry to be naive, but record companies actually pay to have their disks
featured at the listening posts?

Wiser but sadder,

Jerry


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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:10:18 +0000
From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) record companies pay and pay

>Sorry to be naive, but record companies actually pay to have their disks
>featured at the listening posts?
===================================================

as a label guy, i can honestly tell you, the labels have to
pay for EVERY special 'highlight' of their albums promotion
at retail.

do you think retailers would just be happy to have new
releases to sell, and put them voluntarily in their 'new release'
racks up front ?  no.  every single album that is 'featured' in
prominent racks 'up front' in any of the chain stores and many
of the indies, is paid for by the labels.  stores sell
the desirable 'real estate' positioning in-store to the labels. those
slots are limited and pricey.  on the upper end of this, sometimes
one week of prominent in-store displaying in a chain like musicland/sam
goody can go for as much as $25,000.   record retailers also, *Do Not*
discount or 'put albums on sale' and give up their profit margin
in the process.  the label basically pays for them to give you
the album on sale, plus buys the ad in the local weekly paper,
plus pays for the tickets (no discounts here - face price...just what
you would pay) for the record store buyer to go to the show when the
act is in town.

heavy music consumers tend to be down on the labels for high
sticker prices, but in reality that is only because they have no
way to know the inner workings of the trade.

retailers contribute little or nothing to popularizing individual
music releases but want to be paid grossy to do what should be
their job anyway.

instore listening stations can go for hundreds to over a thousand
dollars per month per store, if the retailer *approves* of your release
for their instore station thing.

paul moshay
mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833
los angeles, calif. 90078
[phone], [phone] fx
new 'reply to' email now: [e-mail]
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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:10:03 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Lyman vs. Denny

Moritz wrote:
The thing about Lyman is, that he didn't try enough to do his own thing,
to get away from the Martin Denny shadow a little bit more by creating
his own personal style.
The two are pretty  easy to mix up sometimes. Like when I hear them from
a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who.


I beg to differ with you here (and I hope a lot of others on the list are
sharp enough to comment on this too)
Lyman very quickly realized that merely replicating Denny was not good enough.
Hence his insistence that he was/is a JAZZ musician. He makes a big point to
this day that his band played in a lot of jazz clubs in their heyday and he
jammed with Shorty Rogers and the like. I have never heard Denny talk like
that (though I'm sure Denny jammed with lots of other "jazz" musicians)
Leis Of Jazz (recently reissued on CD) was recorded very early in Lyman's
career. On the back cover he sports a horizontal striped T-shirt and a
cigarette to get that beat/jazz/Blue Note look.
Lyman's style of Exotica - not to mention his more jazzy stuff - is much more
quiet & dramatic, and based on traditional Hawaiian music than Denny's.
Another CD reissue titled Music of Hawaii has compiled all of the Lyman penned
material so that you can see his creativity on original tunes is not too far
from that of Denny's. Remember that Denny didn't WRITE a lot of his material.
He was a genius ARRANGER.
Lyman was part of Denny's original combo so I guess one could argue that Lyman
actually made a contribution to the Denny sound for a short while?

Sure there is tons of stuff that is very similar to Denny, but Lyman has a
very subtley sonic vibe (pardon the pun)

Also note that Lyman was persuaded by Henry J. Kaiser (and Kaiser's money) and
Hi Fi to replicate Denny's sound and Lyman was only about 19 at the time!


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 04:47:15 -0600
From: "Steven Peterson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:46:39 -0500

In regards to the recent, " Lyman vs Denny " topic.   I don't believe that
you can approach this topic with a " vs " attitude.  Both artists, whose
recording style is in a similar vein, offer the world their music each in
their own unique way.   Denny with his strong exotic sounds accompanied by
his fine piano playing.  Lyman with a smooth, softer sound enhanced by his
wonderful vibes and a tinge of jazz from time to time.  Both artists for
this reason contributed greatly in their own way, drawing from one another
from time to time I'm sure.  I can't pick who is better, I just want to
enjoy both for what they have given us.



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Date: Tue,  9 Jun 1998 13:37:50 UT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Help!  (Air)

Does anyone know if Air's Premiere Symptomes EP is now out of print?
It's quickly disappearing from on-line stores and I can't seem to order a copy.

Yikes,
PeterR


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:08:59 -0600
From: mike clifford <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bosstown

Hey everybody!  I've been mostly lurking on this list, with an occassional
post or two, but I've really enjoyed the discussions. I've been thinning
down my vinyl accumulation for a big move to Boston, sometimes I've
reconsidered getting rid of something because of comments here.  To get to
the point, I am moving to the Boston area in a few days.  I'll be off e-mail
and getting off the list, but in the meantime, if anybody has any info on
clubs, record stores, etc. in the area, please drop me a line.  I'm already
looking forward to hearing Jimmy's Easy when I get up in the a.m., but I'm
curious about other stuff.  Hopefully my e-mail will be forwarded, too.
Thanks,
mike



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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 13:20:18 -0400
From: "NATHAN MINER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lyman vs. Denny -Reply

"Like when I hear them from
a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who."

Exactly.

What you're "hearing" is the idea in your mind that somehow Lyman sounds =
different from Denny.  I can't possibly see how anybody could really =
provide a distinct explanation of how their "sounds" differ.  Its been =
mentioned before that Lyman sounds more "jazzy" and maybe this is because =
of a somtimes-predominance of vibes.

Lyman basically took a good thing and ran with it.  Why mess with =
something that ain't broke.  He left Denny to play for a rival night club, =
and what they basically wanted was that "Denny sound." =20

- - Nate


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:01:50 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)

In a message dated 98-06-09 00:12:14 EDT, you write:

<< > it costs a lot to
 > get your disc in a Tower Listening Post;

 Sorry to be naive, but record companies actually pay to have their disks
 featured at the listening posts?

 Wiser but sadder,
  >>

Doesn't this reek of the payola scandels of the radio stations in days past?
Any industry pundits out there listening????

Robert


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:23:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brett Leveridge <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)

On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> In a message dated 98-06-09 00:12:14 EDT, you write:
>
>
> Doesn't this reek of the payola scandels of the radio stations in days past?
> Any industry pundits out there listening????
>

This practice also goes on in the bookselling industry (publishers pay for
prime placement of their wares) and in grocery stores (ditto).

I'm no lawyer but I'm guessing that since retail shops do not operate over
the public airwaves, as do radio stations, they can peddle the space in
their stores any way they please.


Brett


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:26:19 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Denny vs. Lyman

In a message dated 98-06-09 03:13:02 EDT, Otto writes:

<< Moritz wrote:
 The thing about Lyman is, that he didn't try enough to do his own thing,
 to get away from the Martin Denny shadow a little bit more by creating
 his own personal style.
 The two are pretty  easy to mix up sometimes. Like when I hear them from
 a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who.


 I beg to differ with you here (and I hope a lot of others on the list are
 sharp enough to comment on this too) >>

I agree with Otto.  My slant???  Denny was actually trained in classical piano
and you can tell it from his work.  Actually the keyboards were his speciality
and as Otto mentions, his arranging is what made him great (much to Baxter's
shagrin).

Otto's comments on Lyman being more Hawaiian in style is also on target.  Few
of Denny's tunes have that Hawaiian "twang" or ukelee sound.  Lyman was
quicker to us more traditional Hawaiian instruments and sounds.

I play exotica music in my office on Friday mornings and get funny comments
from some of my patients.  With the Lyman stuff people will ask about the
"Hawaiian music" with Denny they ask about (now get this) the "strange music".
I just love it.

And on a side note, for those Denny Quiet Village fans out there:  Have you
ever wondered how his fingers survived that "cascade" that he repeatedly
performs in Quiet where he slides his fingers all the way down the keyboard?
Did he use something on his fingers?  After a while that's gotta hurt.

Robert


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:28:32 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:46:39 -0500

In a message dated 98-06-09 06:48:17 EDT, you write:

<< In regards to the recent, " Lyman vs Denny " topic.   I don't believe that
 you can approach this topic with a " vs " attitude.   >>

I don't think it has really been a "vs." --  as in a battle -- more a
discussion of the differences.  Again, not which one is better.

Robert

P.S.  Why do you always tell us what time it is????


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:34:58 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues - payola

In a message dated 98-06-09 14:17:09 EDT, you write:

<< I always thought payola was an income tax issue -
 unreported income and all like that.
 > >>

I thought it had something to do with the record companies paying DJ's under
the table to give their records favorable play time.

It was reported to me (never admit it) that "payola" was the subject of a
recent Beverly Hills 90210 .  The person who told me this said that he (again,
never admit it) was watching the show because there was supposedly some
"lounge" acts that were suppose to be on this season.

Robert  (Charleston 29412)


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:42:45 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Denny vs. Lyman

At 2:26 PM -0400 6/9/98, <[e-mail]> wrote:

>And on a side note, for those Denny Quiet Village fans out there:  Have you
>ever wondered how his fingers survived that "cascade" that he repeatedly
>performs in Quiet where he slides his fingers all the way down the keyboard?
>Did he use something on his fingers?  After a while that's gotta hurt.

It's not that difficult, really. You use your thumb and first two finger.
The index finger will eventually become calloused, but it comes with the
territory.

br cleve, playing piano since 1965




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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 11:49:42 +0000
From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues - payola

> I thought it had something to do with the record companies paying DJ's under
> the table to give their records favorable play time.

Yep, but I thought the illegal part was not reporting the income,
thereby making it a tax-issue. I think they can play whatever the hell
they want for whatever reason. It's not suprising at all.

Y'know, come to think of it, the movie Quiz Show fell flat (IMO) for
the same reason: What's the suprise in networks (or at that time the
producer/
sponsors) manipulating contestants to skew ratings?


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:00:31 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) record companies pay and pay

In a message dated 6/9/98 1:09:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> as a label guy, i can honestly tell you, the labels have to
>  pay for EVERY special 'highlight' of their albums promotion
>  at retail.

I can verify that everything he has said here is true, and sad.  That is why I
say if you are fortunate enough to live in a place that has a cool
independently owned local record store, give them your business.  They do not
get all that extra money that the chains do for putting CD's up front in the
new release rack, or for featuring them in their listening stations. In fact,
since places like Best Buy purchase CD in HUGE quantities, sometimes they can
sell discs for less than an indie store has to pay for it.
So, if there is a hot indie store that stocks what you like, they are stocking
it because you like it --- not because it is what some corporate guy tells em
to do. So buy it from the local merchant even if it is $1 more.  Otherwise,
that store may go out and leave you no alternative except Blockbuster. That,
indeed, would be VERY sad.

Larry


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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:16:55 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Help!  (Air)

In a message dated 98-06-09 10:55:25 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Does anyone know if Air's Premiere Symptomes EP is now out of print?
 It's quickly disappearing from on-line stores and I can't seem to order a
copy. >>


Yes it is out of print....however plans are in the works to possibly re-issue
this release in an expanded form with additional tracks.

ashley


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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:56:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Help!  (Air)

I just purchased "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," and was wondering if
volume 1 is still around.  There is no information on the label or sleeve
about the recordings.  I presume it is a bootleg.  Can anyone give me the
details about vol. 1, and if it is still around for purchasing?  Thanks.

- -----------------
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TamTam Books
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 02:37:17 -0400
From: Lissla <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg... need help locating something and finding out if it exists..

Hi.. :)

I'm new to this list, and joined at the suggestion of someone who
thought that I might be able to get the info I need here.

You all know, or may know the song   Je t'aime moi non plus  by
Serge Gainsbourg.

There is a version with Bardot and a version with Jane Birkin.

What I'm looking for, and what I could have sworn I heard once, is a
version in which he sings the whole song..   I know it's more of a duet,
but I could have sworn I heard it.. and it was supposed to be on the
Soundtrack of the Full Monty, but wasn't, as a result of licensing
problems.

I've searched and have located several CDs with this song.. both with
the Bardot and Birkin version..  Could someone tell me if there is a
Serge only version?  And if so, which CD?

If not, could someone tell me which CD has the song AND has similar,
more sensual, romantic, erotic, type music?   This is for a wedding
night.. and it's coming up, so I need the info if anyone has it..   if
there is no Serge only version, I'd like to know which CD will have
other songs that will suit the mood best, since Serge has several CDs
some foreign, with that song on it..  I want to pick the best one for
the time it is to be played. :)

Thank you all in advance for your advice

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:05:28 +0100
From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) World Cup

Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
06/10/98 06:05 AM


To:   [e-mail] @ internet
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Subject:  World Cup


I know that this is highly off topic but does anybody know where I can tune
into the Brazil/Scotland match today on the www? Real audio/video?


Thanks



and Sorry




CM





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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:34:00 UT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Who Composed

the Sanford and Son theme.  Wasn't that Quincy Jones?
Is there a long version on any albums?
Or covers?

Also, didn't he do the Fat Albert theme too, or was that someone else?

PeterR


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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:04:07 -0400
From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) He Composed!

Jones did write the Sanford and Son theme.  He also did the Fat Albert
theme, as well as "Hikky Burr", the theme to the "Bill Cosby Show".   I
don't know of a long version of the Fat Albert theme on any media.  I do
know the TV version is on some collections.

He also produced some Lesley Gore records, to show you how varied his career
is!


Brian Phillips

> the Sanford and Son theme.  Wasn't that Quincy Jones?
> Is there a long version on any albums?
> Or covers?




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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:45:51 +0100
From: dan hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) He Composed!

>Jones did write the Sanford and Son theme.  He also did the Fat Albert
>theme, as well as "Hikky Burr", the theme to the "Bill Cosby Show".   I
>don't know of a long version of the Fat Albert theme on any media.  I do
>know the TV version is on some collections.

i may be getting this wrong, and 'Fat Albert' (whatever that is) is not one
of the numerous US shows that we get over here, but i have a herbie hancock
album (a double CD warner bros compilation - totally stunning, particularly
the electric jazz stuff on disk 2) which has "the theme" to 'Fat Albert
Rotunda' on it ... did herbie just play this, and not compose it (unusual)?
or is this a different tv programme or what? it's pretty good in a funky
60s jazz kinda way, but i prefer herbie's more, er, "heavy duty" stuff with
his mwandishi band ...

also, 'hicky burr' is available on the fantastic quincy jones album
'smackwater jack' (CTI?), featuring ludicrous "singing" by bill cosby.
super funky though. the album features other great tv stuff:smackwater jack
- - mmmm nice; ironside - almost proto-drum'n'bass etc. .... as well as a
cool cover of 'what's goin' on' with quincy singing, and an extraordinary
piece which tracks the history of the 20thC guitar music - features the
great jim hall .... very nice ... picked up the vinyl in rays jazz shop,
shaftesbury ave, london, t'other day for about 15 notes ...

ciao,
dan.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:57:25 -0700
From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who Composed

>the Sanford and Son theme.  Wasn't that Quincy Jones?
>Is there a long version on any albums?
>Or covers?

The full-length version (3:06) of the SANFORD AND SON theme can be found on
QJ's Greatest Hits (A&M; 1996).  I don't know which album originially
carried it, but I remember it was also entitled "The Street Beater" or
something similar.

C. "Ratso" Russo





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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:31:33 -0400
From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re-Composed!

> i may be getting this wrong, and 'Fat Albert' (whatever that is)
> is not one of the numerous US shows that we get over here, but i have a
> herbie hancock  album (a double CD warner bros compilation - totally
stunning,
> particularly the electric jazz stuff on disk 2) which has "the theme" to
'Fat Albert
> Rotunda' on it ... did herbie just play this, and not compose it
> (unusual)?  or is this a different tv programme or what? it's pretty good
in a funky
> 60s jazz kinda way, but i prefer herbie's more, er, "heavy duty"
> stuff with  his mwandishi band ...

Fat Albert Rotunda was an album (and song)that mentions the character (a
staple of Bill Cosby's Routines before the TV show).  FAR was written by
Herbie Hancock.

Ricky Sheldon and Edward Martin Fournier composed the Fat Albert theme.
Sheldon and Fournier seem to have been called on for Filmation Studios,
having written the Hardy Boys Theme and The Archies '73 themes.


Sorry about the misinformation folks!  I found out about this by looking at
the BMI database (hyper repertoire) at http://www.bmi.com
> also, 'hicky burr' is available on the fantastic quincy jones album
> 'smackwater jack' (CTI?), featuring ludicrous "singing" by bill cosby.
> super funky though. the album features other great tv
> stuff:smackwater jack

Smackwater Jack was on A&M in 1971, actually (thanks http://www.allmusic.com
.  If you would like to see a picture of the single of Hikky Burr, I have it
on my page at http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/u.html  and you'll get a
small chuckle out of the artist's credit!  Take a look at other labels while
you're there if you like!

Hey(3),
Brian




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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:31:29 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues - payola

At 14:34 09/06/98 EDT, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 98-06-09 14:17:09 EDT, you write:
>
><< I always thought payola was an income tax issue -
> unreported income and all like that.
> > >>
>
>I thought it had something to do with the record companies paying DJ's under
>the table to give their records favorable play time.
>
>It was reported to me (never admit it) that "payola" was the subject of a
>recent Beverly Hills 90210 .  The person who told me this said that he (again,
>never admit it) was watching the show because there was supposedly some
>"lounge" acts that were suppose to be on this season.

Actually, there was a Beverly Hills episode regarding a band getting radio
play due to the station getting paid. I don't know if that is legal, but I
know in the UK, there are "strike forces" that market to chain stores that
arrange things like listening posts. I think the charge is for the extra
posters and stuff they add in. It isn't like "give us the money,and we'll do
a listening post". They do have to "like" your LP before they put it on the
post. AND I don't know that ALL shops make you pay. I think some individual
shops in the UK have some say on what gets on the posts. BUT general
speaking, if you see something racked in the window or on a listening post,
three to one, a helluva lot of cash was spent by the record label to make
sure that happened. Direct payola? Not necessarily. There are plenty of ways
of giving the shops cash without ACTUALLY giving them cash. And it isn't
just the major labels that do this. Large independent labels do the same
thing and play the corporate game. If you don't, it's VERY difficult to get
big meaty sales.

As someone who is passionate about music AND works in the music industry,
nothing made me more disgusted than to find out exactly WHY I can find
certain releases and not others. It is all about MONEY. There are a few
brave warriors out there who actually care about music, but most of them
barely scratch out a living. Sad, but true.

Enough of my morning rant.

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:34:34 -0700
From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re-Composed!

Brian Phillips wrote:
>

> Ricky Sheldon and Edward Martin Fournier composed the Fat Albert theme.
> Sheldon and Fournier seem to have been called on for Filmation Studios,
> having written the Hardy Boys Theme and The Archies '73 themes.

i was always under the impression that bootsy collins *sang* the fat
albert theme.........?? he may not have written it, but he could have
sung it, no? (i'm thinking specifically of the "hey hey hey" part....)

pea


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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:10:46 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Payola

I thought this was interesting:

pay*o*la (noun)

[pay [1] + -ola (as in Pianola, trademark for a player piano)]

First appeared 1938

 : undercover or indirect payment (as to a disc jockey) for a commercial favor
(as for promoting a particular record)

and:

payola (pΓ-o┤le) noun
1.    Bribery, especially the bribing of disc jockeys to promote records.
2.    A bribe, especially one given to a disc jockey.
[Probably PAY(OFF) + (Victr)ola, a phonograph.]

The American Heritage« Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition
copyright ⌐ 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from
InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.

So it is definitely related to air play.  I find it interesting because one
definition links  Pianola and the other Victrola (I have both a Victrola and a
player piano -Aeolian - thus more testament to my exotic (e.g. strange) taste
in music.

And if you think this word origin is interesting try "testament".  Oh boy.

Robert


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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:41:33 -0700
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack, 5-17-98

 KFJC play list 5/17/98 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                    TRACK                    ALBUM
 The Planets               Chunky
 Don Elliot W/             Mis Wiss-Key             Abc Paramount 1956
 Quincy Jones Arrgmt

 Robert Maxwell            Lefty's Hideout          M-G-M
 Hotel Easy                The Jet Setters
 Air                       Le Femme De Argent       Moon Safari
 The Ventures              Pedal Pusher             1964, Stereo
 Elmer Bernstein           Smitty's Place           Some Came Running Ost
 John Corgliano            1st Hallucination        Altered States
 Bill Plummer              Journey to the East      Cosmic Brotherhood,
Impulse
 Elec Concept Orch.        Rock Me!                 Limelight!
 Hugo Montenegro           Yale's Pool Room         Lady in Cement

 Jackson, Mike             The Wisdom of Master     Revenge of Mister
                           Shen                     Mopoji, the

 D. Hyman/B. Bacharach     After the Fox            Instrumental
 O'Donel Levy              Bad Bad Simba            Arr X Manny Albam
 Angelo Badalamenti        Freshly Squeezed         Twin Peaks

 Perrey, Jean
 Jacques/Chazam,D.         Clones War               Eklectronics

 Eskimo (Soundtrack)       Plain View               Some Prefer Cakes
 Ananda Shankar            Metamorphosis            Reprise, 1970
 Mike Deasy                Work Song                Nat Adderly Title
 Oscar Brown Jr.           Lucky Guy

 Bernie Green Orch. W/
 Mundell Lowe-Guitar       Double Blues

 Chaino                    African Jazz             Africana and Beyond
 Gerald Freid Orch.        Saturday Night           Dino Ost
 Mindexpanders             Love Syndrome            Dot, Stereo
 Coyle and Sharpe          The Household Heroine    Warner Bros.

 Bill Page                 You Ain't Got Nothin'
                           Yet

 Johnny Pate               Can't Even Walk in the   Shaft's Big Score
                           Park

 Pete Rugolo Orch.         My Name Is Mr. Clean     Sweet Ride Ost
 Manny Albam Orch          C O O L                  Decca

 Richard Hayman's                                   Masterpiece
 Genuine Electric                                   Masterpiece
 Latin Love Machine        La Comparsa              Masterpiece 5 Stars

 Bob Mosher                The Toy Parade           Leave It to Beaver
 Ennio Morricone           La Lucertola             Lucio Fulci Ost
 Del Close/John Brent      The Hang Up              How to Speak Hip
 Peter Thomas              Lancet Bossa Nova        Raumpatrouille Ost
 Mel Brown/Herb Ellis      Greasy Spoon             Impulse, 1967
 Armando Travajoli         Twist Della Belera       The Raffle Ost
 On Her Bed of Roses       Walk to Hell-Destruction Joe Greene Ost
 John Graas Septet         6/4 Trend
 Leith Stevens Orch        Hotshoe                  The Wild One Ost
 Marvin Gaye               Sexual Healing           45 Rpm

 Jean Jacques Perrey       Main St. Electrical      Disneyland Records
                           Parade

 Pete Rugolo Orch.         Diamond on the Move

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