Ok, but help me out with this, folks. A couple of days ago I wrote a
foolishly uninformed email asking help in playing the CD that came with
that Italian magazine. My computer showed only Quicktime movie files on the
disk, but I knew there were a dozen or so music tracks on it. As Brian
pointed out, over the phone, the cd tracks would probably play only on a
real CD player (and not my computer). In fact, that was the case, as I
discovered when I took the CD home. But this also, as far as I can tell,
means the music tracks are "copy-protected", since I can't access the
directory containing the music tracks on my computer. I could, perhaps,
just try to copy the whole disk, and assume the music tracks would get
copied with everything else, but I don't see how I can extract specific
songs. Are there software programs that will let me see the music? And
how are you, anyway, AZ?
Will
Will Straw
Associate Professor and Acting Chair,
Department of Art History and Communications Studies
McGill University
853 Sherbrooke Street W.
Montreal, QC H3A 2T6
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 14:45:07 -0500
From: "M.Ace" <mace@ookworld.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) more anti-copy cd news
Related article du jour:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23207.html
Yes, some of the copy-prevention methods work by corrupting Redbook
standards to create CDs which won't read in a computer CD drive. Not sure
how this would apply to mixed-content discs.
Yes, for the time being, going through analog cabling/components (with a
couple more analog/digital conversions along the way) is a workaround. But
I think most people are doing this sort of thing internally in their
computers, which does indeed make it a large hindrance. And I am sure they
are working on solutions to the analog problem, whether technical or
legislative (outlawing analog equipment as a 'circumvention tool' under the
DMCA guidelines? y'never know).
- --M.Ace
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 20:55:15 +0000
From: KK <Kahuna.K@hamburg.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) more anti-copy cd news
azed@pathcom.com wrote:
> Unless you're planning to develop a taste for Celine Dion or Creed, it
> doesn't seem like much of an issue.
>
> AZ
I think sound carriers will not be much of an issue, sooner or later.
On the other hand: ôListening moviesö as being reported in the current Spiegel
magazine (Germany). This will give a boost to soundcarrier sales I believe.
The album concept (or concept album) reinvented. The concept is about
incorporating sounds, effects and speach, maybe combing to something like a
story, with the music into the thing. The digital media of today would aloow
to just hear the music, I suppose.
KK
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:56:07 -0500
From: litlgrey@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Whistling Record of the Month
This is perfect timing, I do believe! My fiance works in a medical office full of straight-laced old grizzlies who(m) want nothing more than to listen to Christmas chestnuts as interpreted by that deity of deities, Kenny G. She asked me for alternative Christmas stuff to play on her MP3 compatible boomity-box. I DO believe this qualifies!
basic hip <basichip@attbi.com> wrote:
>
Well, you had to know this was coming, the latest featue of my
will-it-ever-be-finished site on whistling
records. It's the Record of the Month
December's Record appropriately is a Christmas LP and a darn scarce one,
Fred Lowery's "A Family Christmas"
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 16:06:20 -0500
From: <litlgrey@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Whistling Record of the Month
I shall, for the answering of this query forthwithfully.
My fiance's MP3-compatible boomity-box is very new but not very sophisticated and I am willing to believe that they will all work this way:
When the boomity-box reads up a CD with MP3s in directories, it takes a bit of extra time to scan each directory and subdirectory (to how many sublevels I don't know), finds the MP3 files, and lists them all. SO for example, in a CD of 16 LP albums given to me by Domenic Ciccone (The Martini Guy), the boomity-box reads all the folders and comes back with 174 tracks to play. It will play these sequentially from alphabetical folder to alphabetical folder unless some different play sequence is programmed. I'm willing to bet that's how your device will access the files as well.
azed@pathcom.com wrote:
>
AS far as that other thing abuot how many MP3's can go on a CD, I guess
they must have converted to Wav Files or whatever you said, because I just
saved them to my hard drive and then dumped them onto CD with Easy CD
creator and they came out to 67 minutes for the two soundtracks.
And to be honest, I don't think I'm prepared for the idea of putting a
dozen records on one CD. And anyway, if the Mp3's don't get converted, how
will my CD player be able to play an MP3?
Confused but whistling to hide my fear, I remain
AZ
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 22:17:50 +0100
From: Brad Bigelow <spaceagepop@earthlink.net>
Subject: (exotica) Re: "Nikki" versions
There is yet another version of "Nikki" that hasn't been mentioned. It's on
"The Great Arrival!," one of Doc Severinsen's later Command
albums--everyone of which, by the way, includes at least one Bacharach
cover, several of them obscure--e.g., "Love was here before the stars" on
"Doc S. with Strings."
And to latch onto another now-obsolete thread,
No, Los Amigos are not the Castro Brothers. They are, however, a 60s
version of the Four Amigos, and recorded for Capitol under both names. I
put selections from these along with ones from the Castros and "the
Fantastic Los Vegas" on a CDR before packing off most of my records to
storage.
I also included a few cuts from a terrific CD I found at the library, which
you can buy for your own listening pleasure: Los Zafiros. They were, in
effect, a Cuban (i.e., post-revolution Cuban) doo-wop group that were the
Beatles of post-revolution Cuba. But the best cut, which I used to lead off
the CDR, is their smoking original, "Bossa Cubana." Find it at:
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:07:18 -0800
From: bigshot <bigshot@spumco.com>
Subject: (exotica) Cracking 78s
>Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 22:22:12 -0500
>From: "M.Ace" <mace@ookworld.com>
>Subject: (exotica) 78 crack quiz
>
>Record care question of the week...
>Any tips on dealing with cracked 78s? Getting a decent playback? Repair?
If you have a hairline crack at the outside edge, you can put a
bit of scotch tape in the lead in groove to keep it from getting
worse. But a cracked 78 is doomed. All you can do is transfer it
to salvage what you can out of it. Every time you play it, the
needle will take a dive at the crack and eat off some of the groove
at that point. Some 78s, particularly those by Columbia, were
laminated, and hairline cracks don't affect them as seriously as
a solid shellac 78. Luckilly 78s are cheap enough, you won't cry
when one breaks... unless it is part of a set. That really hurts
because there is no way you will ever find the missing disk to
replace it.
See ya
Steve
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 18:37:50 -0500
From: litlgrey@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: (exotica) Whistling Record of the Month
Oh, I know exactly what you mean! A while back I downloaded as many old episodes of "Dragnet" as I could score from LimeWire. They are particularly forgiving in file size, lo-fi and mono!
Then I proceeded to clip the whole shows down to just the ads for cigarettes and Bibles. Jack Webb apparently didn't see the contradiction. I still have these clips posted!
Please go to...
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/hanagrey
...and pull down all the clips in the folder "Jack Webb Loved Cigarettes and Bibles." I think you'll agree that Webb had quite an agenda going.
Dan Mastous <danmastous@yahoo.com> wrote:
> For the record at a 128 Kb bitrate stereo (which is kind of standard
although some prefer 160 or 192) a CD can hold 10 1/2 hours of audio. The higher the bitrate the larger the files so the less audio can be stored.
I have CDs that hold literally DAYS of audio because they have Old Time Radio shows that are encoded at 32 Kb mono. That's around 3.5 Mb per half hour of programming. That works out to over 73 hours of audio on a CD.
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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:13:54 EST
From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) otr and mp3s
In a message dated 12/7/2001 8:05:10 AM, hagar@mindspring.net writes:
<< Or you can be a glutton like my dear self and buy a DVD player that plays
DVDs, CDs, CD-Rs, >>
Make sure it plays cd-r's. I don't know about the newest ones, but many
people I know have dvd's that won't play them.
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Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 09:47:52 -0500
From: litlgrey@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) the end of ultra-lounge?
The observation is right that they haven't had anything out in the series since 1999, and that link to "Register for Free Swag" mysteriously offers no real information so it is possible they are just beginning a housecleaning. I checked whether the U-L website is still there, and it is, complete with its drink recipies, its robot Flash radio stream and its "updates" section which offers not even a glimmer of hope for new releases.
Some people chide the series for the same reason others praise it - it's just so Introductory. I'm assuming that we're all so jaded here that no one on this list spends a great deal of time cranking up their now-aging copies of their samplers. On the other hand, they did make a delightful background back at my Y2K party, in which the invited guests had never heard any of it. I never would have known about Luxuria Music if they hadn't had a cross-promotion with the U-L website at the tail end of May 2000. So... Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
I just received this from the Ultra-Lounge mailinglist.
Follow the link.
Does this look like they're clearing out the warehouse of U-L material to
make way for the next bigish thing?
Lou
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Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 09:57:51 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <hagar@mindspring.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) otr and mp3s
><< Or you can be a glutton like my dear self and buy a DVD player that plays
>DVDs, CDs, CD-Rs, >>
>
>Make sure it plays cd-r's. I don't know about the newest ones, but many
>people I know have dvd's that won't play them.
Oh, it does. My Sony didn't, but the Samsung does. I didn't believe my
Sony didn't until a cousin of mine showed me. The only thing my Samsung
cannot read is a CD of MP3s with no playlist, which Easy CD Creator 5 adds
automatically when you select "MP3 Project".
Neil Diamond said that I am not Samsung Blue,
Brian Phillips
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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:09:47 EST
From: Stilgloria@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) the end of ultra-lounge?
In a message dated 12/7/01 6:48:39 AM, litlgrey@ix.netcom.com writes:
<< The observation is right that they haven't had anything out in the series
since 1999 >>
Tower Records has budget-priced compilations of the Ultra Lounge
compilations!! They're just rehashing the original compilations. THAT'S
underhanded, if you ask me. I believe it's called the Capitol Series Ultra
Lounge or something close to that. Why don't they just release new ones with
different selections? sheesh
Gloria
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Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:29:33 -0500
From: "Br. Cleve" <brcleve@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the end of ultra-lounge?
on 12/6/01 9:05 PM, Domenic Ciccone at djdciccone@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Does anybody here know how to get in touch with an actual human person who's
> involved with the Ultra Lounge at EMI?
Ultra Lounge producer Brad Benedict left Capitol Records a few years ago to
start his own label, hence no more U-L comps from Capitol.
br cleve
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Is anyone else sharing mp3's through Audiogalaxy.com? It's now possible to
search for usernames too. If you know the username of a certain person, you
can easily see the files he or she shares. Our fellow listmember Brian Linds
and I have tried it and it works great! I can browse through the mp3's Brian
has on his hard drive and cue them for download.
We decided that it would be really great if more listmembers would share
their exotic or weird files with us, so if you use audiogalaxy please post
your username.
My username is weirdomusic.
Brian's username is unclebri.
Of course it would also be possible to put requests on our hard drives!
Marco
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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 08:50:18 -0800
From: "basic hip" <basichip@attbi.com>
Subject: (exotica) Tony Mottola's Warm Feelings
A fellow listee wrote not long ago looking for this LP. Robbie, maybe?
I stumbled upon a copy and it's yours, but I don't recall who you are.
Drop me a line if you still want it.
Ford
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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:59:21 -0800
From: "basic hip" <basichip@attbi.com>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Christmas Sawing
Brian asked:
> Does anyone have a recording of I Sawed Mommy Kissing Santa Claus by
Robert
> C. Pritikin?
> This would be greatly appreciated for a radio segment I'm working on.
I have this one. It is on that Pritikin sawing record I wrote about a
couple of days ago. You need it for a Xmas show, that's fer sure, Brian!
Will that track and a few others in the form of my usual weekly upload
suffice? CBR 128kbit MP3?
How 'bout by Monday?
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Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 13:14:46 -0500
From: <litlgrey@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Audiogalaxy usernames
Thanks; this is great advice - the message is a real keeper. I'm not an AudioGalaxy user but my fiance's skroat daughter is and I can use her name. Of course, all my best MP3s were real Napster downloads and they're stuck on my Mac which is in storage... and I never tried to use AudioGalaxy with the Mac... well then! More pie for the sky, hey hey?
marco@weirdomusic.com wrote:
>
Hi,
Is anyone else sharing mp3's through Audiogalaxy.com? It's now possible to
search for usernames too. If you know the username of a certain person, you
can easily see the files he or she shares. Our fellow listmember Brian Linds
and I have tried it and it works great! I can browse through the mp3's Brian
has on his hard drive and cue them for download.
We decided that it would be really great if more listmembers would share
their exotic or weird files with us, so if you use audiogalaxy please post
your username.
My username is weirdomusic.
Brian's username is unclebri.
Of course it would also be possible to put requests on our hard drives!
Marco
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