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exotica-digest      Wednesday, October 10 2001      Volume 02 : Number 1055



In This Digest:

(exotica) Ebay Exotica
(exotica) Zen and Record Finding
H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))
Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))
Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))
Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))
Re: (exotica) Ravi Shankar movie soundtracks
(exotica) Re: happening people like you
Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))
Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))
Re: (exotica) Ravi Shankar movie soundtracks
Re: (exotica) Ravi Shankar movie soundtracks
Re: (exotica) Re: happening people like you
Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))
(exotica) Original Surfaris/Paul Mauriat
(exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)
Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)
(exotica) Nero
Re: (exotica) Here's to the Mad Daddy!
(exotica) Indian Music
Re: (exotica) LP cover art.......
(exotica) Guess this one smarties!!
Re: (exotica) LP cover art.......
Re: (exotica) FRIENDLY PERSUASION - Week of 10/08/01
Re: (exotica) Guess this one smarties!!
FW: (exotica) Guess this one smarties!!
RE: (exotica) Guess this one smarties!!
Re: (exotica) Guess this one smarties!!
(exotica) FW: Faultline
Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)
Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)
Re: (exotica) Zen and Record Finding
Re: (exotica) Original Surfaris/Paul Mauriat
Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)
(exotica) a open
(exotica) department of corrections
RE: (exotica) a open
Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)
Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)
Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)
Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:41:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ebay Exotica

Curious to see how high the bids go on this:

http://home.houston.rr.com/surrenderownz/auction.htm

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:53:09 -0700
From: bigshot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Zen and Record Finding

Hello,

>And one more question, which is starting to spook me. Why does it seem like
>when I dig through any ol' stack of records at any god-forsaken location, I
>always seem to find at least one that I want?

Because you are still looking for them. If you stop looking for them,
you never find any good ones anymore.

>"fine records need not be expensive"
>M.Ace  [e-mail]
>http://ookworld.com

Amen!

See ya
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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 13:44:00 -0700
From: crymad <[e-mail]>
Subject: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> At 02:51 PM 10/9/01, Daniel Shiman wrote:
> >
> >>too.  His version of "You keep me hanging on" is one of the best Now Sound
> >>electric sitar cuts I own.
> >
> >Which album is this on??  I love these hidden sitar gems.
> >
> >Speaking of h.s.g.'s, I've only recently made the personal discovery of the
> >Soulful Strings.  So where have they been all my life?  Their first 2 LP's
> >("Groovin' With" and "Another Exposure") are pretty heavy, man, but best are
> >the lightly funky, very psychedelic sitar cuts on each.  Both George
> >Harrison covers, natch.
>
> The Mauriat is on "The Soul of...".
> Another hsg is on "Really big hits" by The Ed Sullivan Singers and Orchestra.
> And though you shouldn't be too surprised to find sitar on Project 3,
> there's this Herb Larson record.  And also one by Peter Matz.
> And there's this record by a band calling themselves Royal Blue doing
> "Traces".
> And I'm pretty sure there's one on a Bill Black Combo record, "Black with
> Sugar".

My H.S.G. of the moment is Jackie Gleason's "It Must Be Him" on a
Capitol comp LP, "Music For The Easy Hours".  It's preceded by a very
nice "Alfie" by Laurindo Almeida.

- --crymad


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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 21:40:06
From: "Daniel Shiman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))

> > The Mauriat is on "The Soul of...".
> > Another hsg is on "Really big hits" by The Ed Sullivan Singers and
>Orchestra.
> > And though you shouldn't be too surprised to find sitar on Project 3,
> > there's this Herb Larson record.  And also one by Peter Matz.
> > And there's this record by a band calling themselves Royal Blue doing
> > "Traces".
> > And I'm pretty sure there's one on a Bill Black Combo record, "Black
>with
> > Sugar".
>

Wow, thanks.  I did not know about these.

There are also innumerable soundtracks with occassional sitar moments Which
have probably been discussed on the list before.  But I must say, the
"Candy" soundtrack is loaded with 'em, and even despite its bad rock
moments, I really like it.  And it's pretty easy to track down, too.

>My H.S.G. of the moment is Jackie Gleason's "It Must Be Him" on a
>Capitol comp LP, "Music For The Easy Hours".  It's preceded by a very
>nice "Alfie" by Laurindo Almeida.

Gleason had a whole late-60's LP with sitars and the usual battery of
psychedelic-era exploito percussion: tablas, congas, "African drums", etc.
I think it was called "Now Sound for Today's Lovers".  But because I'm
sitting uselessly at work, and not in my apartment where I could be making
the most of my valuable time by poring over my records, I can't tell you
more than that.  Soporific stuff as I recall.  But ideal background music
for that exotic/quasi-psychedelic nightclub which has persisted in my
backwards-looking fantasies ever since viewing the nightclub scene in
"Bullitt"...

- -Dan

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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 21:50:54
From: "Daniel Shiman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))

I forgot to mention, if it's hidden sitars yer seeking, check out Richie
Havens' "Something Else Again" LP for its title track.  Features Havens with
some very rudimentary sitar plunking, and everybody's funky flautist, Jeremy
Steig, as well as his crack band, the Satyrs.  No singing, either.  It's
really worth a listen, and not at all what one'd expect from Havens.

- -Dan




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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:58:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))

In a message dated 10/9/01 4:54:52 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Speaking of h.s.g.'s, I've only recently made the personal discovery of the
> >Soulful Strings.  So where have they been all my life?  Their first 2 LP's
> >("Groovin' With" and "Another Exposure") are pretty heavy, man, but best
are
> >the lightly funky, very psychedelic sitar cuts on each.   >>

"Paint It Black" by SS has that and "Eight Miles High" on it among
others...Found not that long ago by yers truly


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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:22:01 -0400
From: "David Hoffman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ravi Shankar movie soundtracks

ShankarÆs scores for the Satyajit Ray series ôThe Apu Trilogyö are
excellent.  The three films are ôPather Panchaliö (1954), ôAparajitoö (1958)
and ôThe World of Apuö (1959).  Unfortunately, I donÆt think the soundracks
ever made it to vinyl, at least in the U.S.  The scores are totally
uninfluenced by Western styles.  ôImprovisations on the Theme Music from
Pather Panchaliö is on a World-Pacific Recordùbut itÆs only seven minutes
long.  It is excellent and, though firmly grounded in the Indian traditions,
uses non-Indian musicians. The sitar dominates. Incidentally the films are
superb film-making and make for the very finest film-viewing.

ôCharlyö was not what it could have been.  I was disappointed in the music
when I saw the movie; I was disappointed when I got the album.  Shankar is
joined by the likes of Bud Shank and Tom Scott on flute, Laurindo Almeida
and Bob Bain on guitar plus other artists.  Every selection is interesting
but falls just short of an involvement factor.  The Main Title is good but
ôVariations on Love Themeö is the true gem of the album.

David


From: "Mats ╓ljare" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Ravi Shankar movie soundtracks
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 22:16:43 +0000



Can somebody tell me more about Ravi Shankar's movie soundtracks,
like"Charly"? Also if anybody has heard his other recordings with non-Indian
musicians, i would like to know more about it. Please

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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:45:19 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: happening people like you

At 02:57 PM 10/9/01 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:

.>Speaking of which...I found a Now Sound LP compilation (!) this weekend
>called "Outta Site Hits for Today's Happening People".

What a perfect name for a guy like you.

Az



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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:50:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Pearman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))

The Soulful Strings also made one of the hippest Xmas LPs ever called "The Magic of Christmas"  Mostly Xmas carols, but funky and with sitars on several tracks.

Sean

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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:52:14 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))

At 09:40 PM 10/9/01, Daniel Shiman wrote:
.>There are also innumerable soundtracks with occassional sitar moments Which
>have probably been discussed on the list before.  But I must say, the
>"Candy" soundtrack is loaded with 'em, and even despite its bad rock
>moments, I really like it.

Excuse me?  Bad rock moments?  That is easily in the top ten of Now
Soundtracks ever made. One man's bad rock is another man's Now Sound orgasm.
Actually I agree that it's bad rock.  That's what I love about it.  I
prefer bad rock.


>Gleason had a whole late-60's LP with sitars and the usual battery of
>psychedelic-era exploito percussion: tablas, congas, "African drums", etc.
>I think it was called "Now Sound for Today's Lovers". Soporific stuff as I
recall.  But ideal background music

There's a cool little article about Jackie in this month's Mojo magazine.
I love this quote "My music should sound like it's 5 a.m., you see her body
outlined through her dress and you get that 'Mmmm, I want to come' feeling".

Add a little sitar to that and I want to come too.

AZ




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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 19:00:50 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ravi Shankar movie soundtracks

At 06:22 PM 10/9/01 -0400, David Hoffman wrote:
>
>
>=93Charly=94 was not what it could have been.  I was disappointed in the=
 music=20
>when I saw the movie; I was disappointed when I got the album.=20

It's kind of hard to know what to expect or how to judge a soundtrack whi=
ch
is created by a sitar player.
I think there are nice moments on the soundtrack to "The Guru" (which
actually isn't played by Ravi Shankar.  Nice to know someone else played
sitar besides Ravi and Rajput of Sepoy Mutiny fame.)
It's not exactly sitar but in the same vein, there's a really nice cut on
the soundtrack to "Last Summer".  And the title of the track is "the subt=
le
evanescence of Now". =20
It's a Colin Walcott kind of thing.



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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 19:01:39 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ravi Shankar movie soundtracks

At 06:22 PM 10/9/01 -0400, David Hoffman wrote:
>
>
>=93Charly=94 was not what it could have been.  I was disappointed in the=
 music=20
>when I saw the movie; I was disappointed when I got the album.=20

It's kind of hard to know what to expect or how to judge a soundtrack whi=
ch
is created by a sitar player.
I think there are nice moments on the soundtrack to "The Guru" (which
actually isn't played by Ravi Shankar.  Nice to know someone else played
sitar besides Ravi and Rajput of Sepoy Mutiny fame.)
It's not exactly sitar but in the same vein, there's a really nice cut on
the soundtrack to "Last Summer".  And the title of the track is "the subt=
le
evanescence of Now". =20
It's a Colin Walcott kind of thing.



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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:46:56 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: happening people like you

In a message dated 10/9/01 6:47:27 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< >Speaking of which...I found a Now Sound LP compilation (!) this weekend
>called "Outta Site Hits for Today's Happening People".

What a perfect name for a guy like you.
 >>

i wear it well, don'cha think?


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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:48:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: H.S.G. (was: Re: (exotica) Paul Mauriat (sp??))

In a message dated 10/9/01 7:00:32 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I prefer bad rock. >>

If it wasn't for bad rock, I wouldn't have no rock at all



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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 22:16:53 -0400
From: Craig Carlson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Original Surfaris/Paul Mauriat

m. ace wrote:

>Gawrsh, that's a lot to expect from (likely) a batch of tracks bundled
>together at bottom-dollar costs. I do know a little about this album,
>though (via the "Surfin' Guitars" book). The Original Surfaris were a real
>band (they had the name before the "Wipeout" Surfaris and to my ears were a
>much stronger band),

A lot to expect from a bunch of kids who were still in high school, too.
The (Original) Surfaris were most definitely real and the stronger band.
For that matter, their single "Bombora/Surfari" may be one of the best rock
records ever cut. Absolutely incredible.

Nathan Miner:

>The one I *almost* took a chance on had a nude chickie =
>suspended by a host of multi-colored balloons.  The front was dye-cut and =
>the front of the gals body "draped" across the LP sleeve from the upper =
>left-hand corner.

Well jeez, I think if you're a subscriber to this list you're pretty much
expected to buy that one just for the cover!

Craig



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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 19:50:58 -0700
From: "basic hip" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

I love H.S.G.'s!

They don't even have to be gems.  :)

more off the top of my head -

Al Caiola - Let The Sunshine at least three, including Windmills of Your
Mind and Stiletto (!!!)

Living Guitars
    - play music of the Rolling Stones
    - Let it Be and other Beatles Hits
    - San Francisco Nights (does not count if it's all sitar - I forget)

(Living Percussion)
    - The Beat Goes On

That Herb Larson one (Sax Appeal) has a funny version of Dizzy

101 Strings
    - the Sounds Of Today
    - Exotic Sounds Of Love

Marty Gold - Moog Plays The Beatles

Enoch Light
    - Glittering Guitars (Games People Play)
    - Future Sound Shock (Caravan)
    - Brass Menangerie 1973 (Season Of The Witch)
    - Permissive Polyphonics (Marrakeesh Express)

Don Sebasky
    - A Distant Galaxy

Marty Denny
     - A Taste Of India

That Soulful Strings Xmas LP Sean mentioned is great.  Start looking for it
now for the holidays.  what a beautiful sitar solo on Dance of the Sugar
Plum Fairies.

I even located a whistling record with sitar.  Roger Whittaker's Whistling
'Round The World.  Every track is a whistling tune from different parts of
the world.  Like Russian Whistler.  Finnish Whistler.  Japanese Whistler.
And in this case, Indian Whistler.  Whistling with sitar.









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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 21:31:11 -0700
From: crymad <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

basic hip wrote:
>
>  Whistling with sitar.

Beautiful!  Just beautiful!

- --crymad


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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 02:27:47 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Nero

Anyone on this list know how to use the Nero software for burning CD's.  It
came with my burner.  My computer guy says it's more flexible than EZ CD
creator.  But does anyone know where that can be downloaded for free?

AZ



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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 05:28:19 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Bump Stadelman)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Here's to the Mad Daddy!

and the hits just keep on coming....
i can't stop listenin',
i have a friend Rouse who is deep into this vintage radio and has telling
me to
check out some way out cats that are on this site.

The Real Don Steele  (the announcer dude from Death Race 2000)
http://www.reelradio.com/rdsc/airchecks.html#rdskhj040269
click on the 4 Fractured Fridays Signoff  "...and Korla Pandit plays the
Organ!"

Jackson Armstrong   (the most superhyperdrive dj i have ever heard!)
http://www.reelradio.com/mh/index.html#ja13q73

John Richbourg  (wolfman jacks mentor)
http://www.reelradio.com/ricky/index.html#johnr73
get past the interview at the beginning

thanx Brian, i am flippin'!
but still have not heard anything nuttier than the Mad Daddy...
bump

>Mad Daddy is the greatest DJ personality of all time. IMO. (until i hear
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 07:35:23 -0500
From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Indian Music

Hey, nice to hear some discussion of Ravi Shankar here. I've got a
couple of general questions that I'd like to ask here along that vein as
well.

I just spent the last 10 days in the Netherlands during which time I
practically lived in Indonesian and Indian restaurants since Dutch
cuisine seems to consist largely of butter sandwichs slathered with an
assortment of cupcake sprinkles. While lingering over my rijstafel and
tandoori mixed grills, I heard some strikingly different styles of sitar
music which I was unable to identify. The restaurant owners weren't too
helpful either since they just have unlabeled cassetes that they play
over the store PA on a continuous loop. I heard several pieces of Indian
music which sounded downright Hawaiian with the sitar being played in
almost a slack-key guitar style. I also heard some jazz tracks with
sitar, tabla, and alto sax.

So if I can pick the collective brain here, do any of my descriptions
sound vaguely familiar to anyone here? As much as a love Ravi (even his
orchestral work with Andre Previn) I'd like to broaden my collection of
Indian music beyond the obvious a bit.

Thanks!

- --
Matt Marchese
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nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate)
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:54:04 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP cover art.......

<<Well jeez, I think if you're a subscriber to this list you're pretty =
much
expected to buy that one just for the cover!

Craig>>

Ah yes!!  One "trap" I'm trying to avoid.  I have bought the occasional =
Hawaiian album for the knock-out "Cinemascope" vintage covers of hula =
girls and leering male tourists.  Cover art is definitely an area of =
collectibility in it's own right.

Okay, I *did* buy an Enoch Light LP that featured wild-haired chicks in =
chains and cages!!

Came across a few strange "tie in" records this weekend.  One compilation =
was produced by the manufacturer of a loung chair, and the other by a =
company that sold ceiling tiles!!

- - Nate





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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:00:33 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Guess this one smarties!!

Okay, actually, someone already told me the name of this group/song but =
it's been perhaps a year ago so I'm asking again.

I heard this dance/house/trance what have type of track that featured down =
beat tempos mixed with snippets of phone sex conversations and those =
infamous "spy broadcasts" of a woman repeating sets of numbers in a dead =
pan voice.

Can anyone identify this - sorry for the sketchy info.  The audio site I =
heard it on is no longer up 'n running.=20

Thanks -=20

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:04:13 -0500
From: Clayton Black <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP cover art.......

> Okay, I *did* buy an Enoch Light LP that featured wild-haired chicks in chains
> and cages!!

I bought that one last year.  I don't listen to it too often, but it does
have a pretty funny cover of the Doors' "Touch Me."  Of course the awkward
part was explaining to my daughter why the women were in chains.

Clayton



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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:30:48 -0500
From: Clayton Black <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) FRIENDLY PERSUASION - Week of 10/08/01

Great show, Otis.  I was especially fond of John Barry's "Hercules Takes
Off" and Muzak's "Last Tango in Paris."  Are those from LPs or CDs?
    Of course once the Kipp Lennon and Frankie Howerd songs hit I began to
feel like I needed to take a shower.  My "bad is good" tolerance level won't
take me that far.
Clayton
>
> THIS WEEK'S PLAYLIST:
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:39:28 -0400
From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Guess this one smarties!!

From last March - I had a copy of this posting in my own archives...


>That song I asked about last week - the one with the sex phone talk overdub
is by "Fault Line" and >is called "Party Line Honey."

>Now to find this release.........

>- Nate

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Okay, actually, someone already told me the name of this group/song but it's
been perhaps a year ago so I'm asking again.

I heard this dance/house/trance what have type of track that featured down
beat tempos mixed with snippets of phone sex conversations and those
infamous "spy broadcasts" of a woman repeating sets of numbers in a dead pan
voice.

Can anyone identify this - sorry for the sketchy info.  The audio site I
heard it on is no longer up 'n running.





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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:51:45 +0100
From: Charles Moseley <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: (exotica) Guess this one smarties!!

> I heard this dance/house/trance what have type of track that featured down
> beat tempos mixed with snippets of phone sex conversations and those
> infamous "spy broadcasts" of a woman repeating sets of numbers in a dead
> pan voice.
>
Sukia?

Charles Moseley
C3 magazine
3 St Peters Street
Islington
London
N1 8JD
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:55:12 +0100
From: Charles Moseley <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Guess this one smarties!!

Fault Line also had a record out recently called Mute. Reportedly 'not very
good'. Lots of his ambient stuff knocking about too.

So not Sukia then?...


Charles Moseley
C3 magazine
3 St Peters Street
Islington
London
N1 8JD
    Tel:[phone]


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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:58:46 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Guess this one smarties!!

Whoa!

Great - that's it!

What a bunch 'o smart audiophiles!!!

- - Nate




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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:13:37 +0100
From: Charles Moseley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FW: Faultline

I just found out he's a friend of a friend from Bristol and another mate who
records as Third Eye Foundation has also done some work with him. Guess
what? He's got a website and I expect he's got vinyl too if you ask nicely.

> http://www.faultline.co.uk/index_old.htm
>
>
Charlie




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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:37:06 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

There's a pretty amazing late 60's 45 that a friend of mine has called
"Sitar Pickin Man", which is a honky tonk C&W number with lots of electric
sitar country pickin licks. I can't recall the artist or label, but it's a
priceless gem. I think I'd better go borrow it and digitize it.

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 16:40:10
From: "Daniel Shiman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

>There's a pretty amazing late 60's 45 that a friend of mine has called
>"Sitar Pickin Man", which is a honky tonk C&W number with lots of electric
>sitar country pickin licks. I can't recall the artist or label, but

There is an unconscionable scarcity of sitar in C&W music.  I mean, they
integrated Hawaiian guitars just fine, didn't they?  So this 45 sounds like
good news.

The only other C&W/Indian crossover I can think of are the 2 raga-delic cuts
on Chet Atkins' "It's a Guitar World".  But somehow those 2 have always been
a bit disappointing.

Actually, I see electric sitar players credited on a lot of those
big-production Nashville country records of the early 70's.  But they're
always buried in the mix, and played pretty straight.

- -Dan



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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:23:00 -0400
From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Zen and Record Finding

> >"Fine records need not be expensive."
>
>Amen!

It's the old Diplomat records motto. I've always thought they were good
words to live by.

Though if Diplomat were still around, saying something like that would
probably get them kicked out of today's RIAA.


- --M.Ace



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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:23:45 -0400
From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Original Surfaris/Paul Mauriat

>A lot to expect from a bunch of kids who were still in high school, too.
>The (Original) Surfaris were most definitely real and the stronger band.
>For that matter, their single "Bombora/Surfari" may be one of the best rock
>records ever cut. Absolutely incredible.

Indeed. It can stand tall next to anything Dick Dale ever did.

I have listened to the "Wheels" album now, and there are only a couple of
tracks that I would feel at all confident about saying, yeah, that's them.
Nothing close to their prime material though. Probably session leftovers
that Diplomat bagged in that budget label way. The album lives up to my
humble expectations though... reliable, lo-fi, early-60s flavor rock
instrumentals -- a bit more of an R&B influence than surf, overall. And
there are a couple of 12 bar time-killers that have a bit of a Velvet
Underground drone quality to them. (Why don't we start a rumor that they're
pre-Warhol Velvets tracks?) Oh, one more oddity: the last track is a song,
"The Bug". But they titled it "Way-Out Wheeler".

- --M.Ace



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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:51:53 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

At 04:40 PM 10/10/01, Daniel Shiman wrote:
.>Actually, I see electric sitar players credited on a lot of those
>big-production Nashville country records of the early 70's.  But they're
>always buried in the mix, and played pretty straight.

Oops.  I was assuming when we were talking about "hidden sitar gems" that
we were including electric sitar.  If we weren't, then I would have to take
back some of my sightings.  But I was pretty sure I had read some other
electric sitar sightings among other people's suggestions.
It occurs me to me maybe I can't always tell the difference.
But if you want some country with electric sitar prominent in the mix,
there's a late Hank Thompson record.  I once made a tape of "country with
electric sitar" but that's the only one I remember for sure.

AZ




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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:54:25 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) a open

Has your computer ever made you want to cry?
Does anyone have a computer burner of the A-Open variety?
Any advice about tricking it into working?

AZ



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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 16:36:55 -0400
From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) department of corrections

The Register now posts a correction to the story I linked the other day:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/31/22138.html


Perhaps they can change their minds again in a couple more days.


- --M.Ace



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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:45:11 -0700
From: "Doug Shannon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) a open

Perhaps this is overkill (okay, I know it's overkill) but this website:=20

http://www.cdrfaq.org/

might be able to help you. A lot of information there, but broken down
rather well.


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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:17:32 +0000
From: KK <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

Since I guess not even litlegrey will mention it:
Gogo Sitar by Yours Truly features electric sitar.
It recently been released by Stark Reality on a 45. Before it was inlcuded in
V.A. Mojo Dancefloor Jazz #9 Never Felt So Free.


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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:55:43 -0400
From: "Carl Howard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

Whoops!  My bad!  Yes I certainly should have mentioned that Kahuna
Kawetzmann's CD is just a treasure grove of Hamburgian exotica.  I wish I
could see them play... sigh...

Carl Howard
Ohio Regional WUV Supervisor
Alien Abduction Coordinator
Communist Dupe Extraordinaire


> Since I guess not even litlegrey will mention it:
> Gogo Sitar by Yours Truly features electric sitar.
> It recently been released by Stark Reality on a 45. Before it was inlcuded
in
> V.A. Mojo Dancefloor Jazz #9 Never Felt So Free.
>
>
> Kahuna Kawentzmann



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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:15:55
From: "Daniel Shiman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

>Oops.  I was assuming when we were talking about "hidden sitar gems" that
>we were including electric sitar.  If we weren't, then I would have to take
>back some of my sightings.  But I was pretty sure I had read some other


I don't usually distinguish between electric and real sitars on records.  I
guess I prefer the sound of the real thing.  But in my mind, an electric
sitar serves just as well as long as there's some attempt at making it sound
like an actual sitar, even if that's nothing more than just stringing some
exotic sounding notes together.

Inauthenticity, and not letting the consciousness of your own inauthenticity
stand in the way of your musical (or creative) enterprise, is much of the
allure of exotica for me.  And some studio musician doing his impression of
"Eastern" scales is as good as it gets.

Most importantly, given the choice between owning the 2 sitars, I'd take the
electric any day.  God I want one of them.

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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 01:31:54 +0000
From: KK <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re H.S.G. (hidden sitar gems)

Daniel Shiman wrote:

>
>
> Most importantly, given the choice between owning the 2 sitars, I'd take the
> electric any day.  God I want one of them.
>
> -Dan

Dan,
I wanted one, since I tried one at a big time pro guitar shop. It was a quality
re-issue of the Vincent Bell model released by Coral (Danelectro) in the
sixties. I couldnÆt afford it, but I took a close look at the bridge, which
made THAT sound.
A while later I decided to convert a guitar I wasnÆt using much anymore into an
electric-sitar. I went across the street to a small custom guitar workshop
(Claim Guitars) and asked for a small piece of ebony. The luthier found the
correct size piece of wood right away and of I went. I had no idea how much
trouble it would be, to get the right curve ground/sanded into the new bridge.
But soon I heard a nice buzzz while tuning up for a test. From there I worked
towards an even buzz on all the strings, unfortunately I never got the low
e-string to make a buzz very much. But I found out I should make a three point
adjustment, forming a flat triangle of screws, looking at the guitarÆs top at
90░. So you could adjust the angle of the bridge, not just the height, as
common in guitar bridges.
I stopped sanding when I became concerned with the integrity of the wood. While
not having the buzziest electric-sitar, I have put much attention to get the
best intonation I could, which seems to be a problem (solved by a german
company that uses steel for the buzz saddles).

It was just a couple of deutsch marks investment in a guitar I wouldnÆt have
used much otherwise.

KK



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