Subject: Re: (exotica) TONIGHT IN NYC: EXOTICA FILMS 3: MUSIC AND MORE! at Fez
ACK!
You should post earlier...
I was in NYC that night and on 4th street and then to St Marks scrounging
the used CD stores.
Domenic Ciccone
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:45:45 -0700
From: Paul Penna <tterrace@sonic.net>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Quadrophonic conundrum
"Jeff" <lists01@joynk.com> said:
>Can anyone give me the skinny on the best way to digitally record a
>4-channel LP?
>I've got a copy of "101 Strings - Exciting Sounds", which is apparently
>a Les Baxter/101 Strings collaboration. I love this record, and wish
>that someone would reissue it on CD. Until then, I'd like to have a copy
>of my own on CD - so I thought I'd give it a shot.
>Problem is, It's quadrophonic - which my current setup doesn't support.
>It sounds great on a normal (stereo) setup, but I would like to be able
>to digitally record all 4 channels on this record - even if that means
>converting the whole thing to regular stereo for the final CD.
>Is there any way for me to do this, short of blowing a bunch of money on
>a quad setup?
Check out this guy:
http://hometown.aol.com/matrixquad/about.htm
He's one of the more prominent ones around doing dts conversions of quad
material, be it from LPs, Quad-8 tape or quad reels. His Enoch Light
"Permissive Polyphonics" from a qual reel is spectacular. I'm hoping to get
a copy of the quad reel of Nelson Riddle's 101 Strings album and send it to
him; only seen it come up once on eBay in the past couple years. I don't
know if the Baxter was issued on reel.
This is all assuming you have dts playback capability, of course.
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:58:29 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound The Elgart Brothers
At 10:27 PM 8/28/01 -0400, Domenic Ciccone wrote:
>. Great set of LP's and my vote for best Now Sound
>LP's...whatever that is....
Offlist, I have managed to explain Now Sound to Moritz, to his
satisfaction. My whole approach - which explains the length of my posts
sometimes - is to try and explain it in every different way I can think of,
until something gets through.
I guess it's a bit like the story of a thousand monkeys typing until they
write a great novel. Give me time and I can eventually explain Now Sound
to Moritz.
Anyway my definition of classic Now Sound always involves a blaring horn
section. That's not to say Now Sound requires horns. It's just that
there's all this stuff that resembles Now Sound - like instrumental rock or
easy listening covers of rock songs (such as Ronnie Aldrich) - which I'm
not absolutely comfortable identifying as Now Sound. The stuff with horns
is more indisputably Now Sound.
Anyway if I had to make a list of the best and most quintessential Now
Sound, I'd start with those two Les and Larry records (though the first one
is by far the better) and to that list I'd add the one I mentioned before:
Si Zentner's "Right here right now" and this one by John Keating - here
identified as the Johnny Keating Sound - called "Here's where it is".
If I had to round it off to a top five, I'd have to choose between "Billy
May Today!" and Les Brown "The Young Beat!".
If I had to choose single tracks, I'd probably choose the Brass Impact's
version of "Mais Que Nada" but some of the Brass Impact tracks remind me
more of that classic Command sound and not so Now-ish.
If someone wanted to add Claus Ogerman's "Watusi Trumpets" or Al Caiola's
"The Power of Brass" to this list of classic Now Sound records, I wouldn't
argue.
And I might add Henry Jerome's "American Gold" which is kind of flat but a
real nice collection anyway.
And if I'm not at ten yet, I'll end the list with a bit of an outside choice.
Vic Schoen's "Girls with Brass" (hell of a title) on Mainstream.
That's enough for today.
AZ
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:20:59 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound
At 10:02 PM 8/27/01 -0400, Brian wrote:
>
>A bit late but I think Alan has it right... And I think Moritz has it right
>too though he maybe isn't looking at the connection he's already made. To
>me, the Now Sound is to Rock music what Exotica is to World Music, ie. an
>attempt to recreate.
I'm not going to speak for Moritz but he quite rightly distinguishes
between the two in this way. He says that whereas Now Sound was trying to
address music that was actually contemporary at the time, exotica was
attempting to address music from another time and place.
I agree that there's a distinction to be made there. And I guess you could
therefore say that exotica was more "original" than Now Sound. And I
wouldn't argue with that.
I imagine that when the producer walked in the room for a Now Sound
session, he told those jazz and big band session musicians "Look, if that's
what the kids want, surely we can do it better than those untalented rock
musicians!"
But the truth is that those same musicians had probably played on some of
those rock tunes. In any case, they didn't need anyone to tell them what
they were trying to recreate. One way or another, they had certainly heard
some of the music that was popular with the kids.
What they didn't understand however was that their superior musicianship
wouldn't necessarily help them capture the sound we kids loved.
In the case of exotica musicians, I suspect the various musicians gathered
for the sessions did NOT have the same idea of the sound they were there to
capture. The producer brought in a lot of percussion instruments and a
list of tunes and told them to think of that primitive tribal beat which
would accompany their sexual exploits with the naked Polynesian girls.
Or maybe that's just me when I listen to it.
(Now Sound doesn't make me think about sex.)
Anyway this post was a collaboration between myself and the spirit of Moritz.
AZ
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:47:29 -0700
From: "F. Cobalt" <fcobalt@lycos.com>
Subject: (exotica) Speaking of the Loot OST...
In Dusty Groove they have a copy of the soundtrack to a Telly Savalas, Peter Fonda movie Killer Force, which was called Diamond Mercenaries in the UK I guess. They want almost $50 for it, and I don't know why. I got mine for like $5 I think. It's mostly disco, and I think there's a lot of good disco, but this is even kind of bland disco. I mean, why do they think they're going to get $50 for it? Copies on eBay that I've run across don't even seem to sell. Did someone sample this that anyone knows of to make it suddenly "valueable"? I wonder and wonder.
Mr. Unlucky
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:48:46 +0100
From: "jamie_james" <jamie_james@lineone.net>
Subject: (exotica) re: loot
Hi William
as this appears to be the soundtrack to the motion picture, my advice would be
to ignore it.
I saw about half the film recently as i had Just read the Orton diaries, which
incidently are great but filthy.
The musical numbers just sounded to me like something from Hair. If that is
your bag though, go for it.
I recommend the diaries though. ( not for the the homophobic or the easily
shocked.)
Jamie
>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:51:29 +0800
>From: "william" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
>Subject: (exotica) loot
>hi all,
>i just saw that this shop here has gotten in the soundtrack to joe
>orton's loot. it says the music was written by keith mansfield. does anyone
>have this? is it worth picking up?
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:41:14 +0100
From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk
Subject: (exotica) big boys record shops
I've been buying records in the big boys shops again.
Bit steep, but every once in a while it needs to be done.
I got Hugo Montenegro 'The Man From UNCLE', collectors double LP on heavy
duty vinyl.
This range is normally pretty expensive but this was a very good price.
And a very good LP. Just what you'd expect from Hugo Montenegro in 1966.
A little bit Jazzy, a little bit twangy, pretty damn groovy. 'Solo's
Samba' and 'Solos Bossa'. Groovy EZ of a very high quality. Maybe not
quite as good as 'the lady in cement', but as I don't actually have that for
comparison and have to go by my memory, it may be just 'I want that record'
boosting it in my mind.
V/A Soul Samba 70
This is really good too. Someone was asking about Bossa nova and I'd say to
at least give this a listen as well, it is very well described. Samba
influenced by Soul and RnB. Nice brass. It has 'The Now Sound of Brasil'
on a sticker on the sleeve.
Here is a web page with what they don't give you on the sleeve notes:
