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exotica-digest         Monday, June 25 2001         Volume 02 : Number 1003



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) the way out price for children
Re: (exotica) the way out price for children
(exotica) WinAmp skin
(exotica) [obits] Ponn Yinn, Joe Darion, Amalia Mendoza, John Lee Hooker, K V Mahadevan
Re: (exotica) Ramsey Lewis at the County Fair
(exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra / Frankie Stein
(exotica) another try--
RE: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra / Frankie Stein
(exotica) the exotica mayor
(exotica) Paint Like Shag
[none]
(exotica) Re:
Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor
Re:  (exotica) Paint Like Shag
Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor
Re: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra / Frankie Stein
Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor
(exotica) NC Finds
RE: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra
RE: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra
Re: (exotica) streaming 'zotic...?
(exotica) Empty hall?
(exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..?
Re: Re: Re: (exotica) Second try..
Re: (exotica) NC Finds
Re: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..?
Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor
Re: (exotica) Re:
Re: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..?
(exotica) definitly Thai
(exotica) Roland Shaw and his Orchestra
Re: (exotica) Roland Shaw and his Orchestra

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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:36:02 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the way out price for children

"m.ace" schrieb:

> Well, it's not so impossible. Last year I found (...) and Brass Ring's "The
> Dis-Advantages Of You" for a dime

That one is pretty cool isn't it? I bought it once for the cover only, but then was surprised how good the music was. I think I was first tuned in to the Brass Ring by Alan...

Mo

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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:30:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dymaxia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the way out price for children

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, m.ace wrote:

> And today there were "The Best Of Martin Denny" (what a great backcover
> photo), Baja Marimba Band's "For Animals Only" and Brass Ring's "The
> Dis-Advantages Of You" for a dime each. There was also a Little Marcy
> album, but in rancid condition, and Little Marcy terrifies me anyway.

That can only be a good thing, IMO, but not the rancid part.
I scored a Little Marcy last weekend as well, my first.
On the back is an address so that you can order your own
Little Marcy doll, and letters from children who actually
watched the show.  One of them praises Little Marcy
for her cuteness.  I also got a Waikikis LP - most of
it is chunka chunka renditions of "the classics" but a
couple of tracks are otherworldly and gorgeous.  I
always tell myself, "No more Hawaiian records in the
house!", but then I find one that has some indispensable
tracks on it.

And look!  The Bruce Haack web page has many .mp3's
from the "Way Out" record!

http://www.brucehaack.com/wayout.asp

Kerry




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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 15:33:06 +0200
From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WinAmp skin

FWIW but you can download a Tiki skin for WinAmp at www.winamp.com

Arjan



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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:58:16 -0400
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Ponn Yinn, Joe Darion, Amalia Mendoza, John Lee Hooker, K V Mahadevan

LONG BEACH, Calif. (AP) - Ponn Yinn, a flutist of traditional Cambodian music
and dance who survived the Khmer Rouge purge and helped preserve his country's
culture, died June 11 of a stroke. He was 82.

Yinn was working under Prince Norodom Sihanouk, then Gen. Lon Nol, for the
Classical Symphony of the Army for the Royal Ballet, when the Khmer Rouge
overthrew Cambodia's government in 1975.

Khmer Rouge forces found Yinn during their campaign to uncover and eliminate
Cambodia's intellectuals and artists. He begged for his life and claimed to be
a steel worker who enjoyed playing the flute.

He was allowed to live, but was forced to play a makeshift flute nightly into
loudspeakers to drown out the screams of people being slaughtered in fields
nearby.

In 1979, Yinn crossed through minefields and escaped to Thailand. In a border
refugee camp, Yinn headed the Khmer Classical Dance Troupe.

At a time when Cambodian culture was believed to have been almost eradicated -
a result of the Khmer Rouge's genocide of 1 million to 2 million people, the
troupe was discovered by Western visitors.

Yinn settled in Long Beach in 1984, where he taught music for more than 20
years and continued to perform.

AP-NY-06-18-01 0532EDT
=======================
LEBANON, N.H. (AP) - Joe Darion, the lyricist for ``Man of La Mancha,'' died
Saturday at age 90.

``Man of La Mancha'' opened in New York in 1965 and ran for 2,328 performances.
It won Darion and his composing partner Mitch Leigh a Tony Award for best
score.

Inspired by Cervantes's ``Don Quixote,'' the musical went on to become the
third-longest-running Broadway musical of the 1960s. Its music included the
popular song ``The Impossible Dream.''

In the early 1950s, Darion had three top 10 hits: the Patti Page ballad
``Changing Partners,'' the Teresa Brewer novelty song ``Ricochet'' and Red
Buttons's comedy hit ``The Ho Ho Song.''

At the time of his death, Darion was working on a show titled ``Oswego.''
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/19/obituaries/19DARI.html
============
Amalia Mendoza, a diva of mariachi music whose dramatic performances
brought fans to tears on both sides of the United States-Mexico border,
died on June 11, 2001.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/20/obituaries/20MEND.html
================
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/reuters20010621_452.html
http://www.elvispelvis.com/johnleehooker.htm
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Legendary blues guitarist John Lee Hooker died on
Thursday in San Francisco. He was 83.
"He passed away peacefully in his sleep this morning," a spokeswoman at The
Rosebud Agency, his San Francisco booking agent, said.

Hooker, an influence on several generations of the world's most prominent
musicians and a 1991 inductee into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, had
maintained a full performing schedule despite his advanced age, according to
his manager, Rick Bates.

"This was totally unexpected. He had the audience on their feet three or
four times on Saturday night," Bates said. "He enjoyed performing and he
found joy in sharing his music with people."
===========
Chennai, June 21 (PTI) - Well-known South Indian film
music composer and twice National Award winner K V
Mahadevan died here today at a private hospital, family
sources said.

Mahadevan was taken to hospital after he complained of
breathlessness, they said. He was 83 and is survived by
wife, two sons and four daughters. . . .
This is only an excerpt -- read the complete news at:
http://www.the-hindu.com/holnus/02211615.htm
Indraprasth, June 21 (PTI) - Prime Minister Atal Behari
Vajpayee today expressed grief over the demise of music
composer K V Mahadevan and said he had evolved a style of
film music which appealed to all. . . .
This is only an excerpt -- read the complete news at:
http://www.the-hindu.com/holnus/02211803.htm




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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 15:46:13 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ramsey Lewis at the County Fair

for those of you in the SF bay area...
Ramsey Lewis is playing the Alameda County Fair (!!!) in Pleasanton next
Friday, June 29, at 6 and 8


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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:32:11 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra / Frankie Stein

Just picked up the reissue (boot?) of The Sensational Guitars of Dan and Dale
- - which as we all know is Sun Ra's Batman exploitation record.  Pretty
groovy, but I noticed that the cut "Joker is Wild" is basically the same as
"Goon River" on my favorite monster-spoitation record by Frankie Stein and
the Ghouls.

Who lifted the riff?


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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:42:22 -0700
From: PjB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) another try--

hey all---  i attempted to post this yesterday, but for whatever reason, i
don't think it ever made it thru to the list.  sorry if it did..
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

i have a copy of a Command Sampler here.... it is vol. 10.
the opening tune on side 1 is the old chestnut 'cheek to cheek'.
i've got to tell you, i think this evening for the first time, i 'heard'
enoch light!
there was a markedly high level of creativity, and it was _interesting_....
that's the best word i can conjure to describe the exotica/lounge material
that i *have* responded to.... it's interesting music, and when it works
its big fun to listen to.   anyway, i'm really glad i decided to
investigate this dark corner of a time long past.  ah, the intrigue.... the
powerful feeling of wonder when you slowly extract a dusky gem from a
public tomb of mediocrity in a cardboard box at the thrift store as,
fingers trembling and eyes widening, you realise you have just found THE
record... and that, for a buck and a half..

the version of 'cheek to cheek' on this record was, according to the liner
notes, done live at carnegie hall as part of a 'enoch light & orchestra
play irving berlin' concert, but i can hear no evidence of an audience at
all.... nothing.  anybody have this one, or know anything about it.....?
did enoch light release any live sides?

.02
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:04:21 +0200
From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra / Frankie Stein

> Just picked up the reissue (boot?) of The Sensational Guitars of
> Dan and Dale
> - which as we all know is Sun Ra's Batman exploitation record.  Pretty
> groovy, but I noticed that the cut "Joker is Wild" is basically
> the same as
> "Goon River" on my favorite monster-spoitation record by Frankie
> Stein and
> the Ghouls.

Most of the tracks on the 'Batman' album are reworkings of classical tunes,
but I must admit that I don't hear much of a classical melody on 'Joker is
wild'.

Marco



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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:44:58 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the exotica mayor

I could probably find an article online but I'm not going to bother.
I thought some of you would get a kick out of hearing about the latest
problems involving the mayor of Toronto Mel Lastman.
I should point out that he came to fame in Toronto by owning an appliance
store called "The Bad Boy" and doing all kinds of outrageous stunts and
hucksterish ads on TV.
You know the type.
He way the mayor of one of the "suburbs" of Toronto for at least a decade.
And then when the city amalgamated he became mayor of the whole city.
A lot of people, including myself, are embarrassed by him but they like him
in the burbs.
And it seems that he's been virtually invulnerable.  He's made a number of
gaffes and had a few semi scandals.  It recently came out that he had a
fifteen year long affair in the sixties and fathered two sons with the
woman, then gave her some hush money and abandoned his sons.
People said "We all make mistakes.  He's a good mayor".
They also don't seem to care about the fact that no one can name a single
thing he's actually done for the city.
But finally it seems he's put his foot in it.
As you may or may not know, Toronto is trying for the 2008 Olympics.
So Mel was on his way to Kenya to try and charm the Africans into backing
our bid.  And he "joked" to reporters that he and his horrible wife Marilyn
were afraid that the Kenyans would put them in a bit pot of boiling water
and dance around them.
He's been forced to apologize about a thousand times since then.  A lot of
people are sure that the remark will lose the city the support of the
Africa and therefore lose them the Olympics.  Finally people are asking for
his resignation.
Anyway I was just listening to Les Baxter's "African Jazz" and I wondered
if maybe my idiot mayor got his information about Africa off old exotica
records.

AZ



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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:09:51 -0500
From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Paint Like Shag

Heads up, art lovers!

Tired of spending thousands of dollars on original Shag artwork? Now you
can make your own! The current issue of Juxtapoz magazine contains a
step-by-step article detailing Shag's painting techniques and written by
the great man hisself. All you need is gesso, colored pencils, acrylic
paint, masonite, a lot of imagination, a maraschino cherry, and a pinch
of talent.

For those on the list who're unfamiliar with Juxtapoz, it's an art
magazine dedicated to low-brow, retro-style painting and illustrations.
Most issues carry an article or two about artists who work in a
pop-cultural milieu that features Exotica motifs including Mark Ryden,
Todd Schorr, Lateeg of Tahiti, and Mitch O' Connell, among others.

I also picked up the latest issue of House Industries magazine today. As
always, it's chockablock with great illustrations and fonts that I can't
afford to buy...alas.

I'm off to Dallas for the week. Report to follow providing I manage to
turn up anything interesting in the way of music, art, or niteclubbing.

- --
Matt Marchese
"I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a
nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate)
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:14:17 -0400
From: "R. Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]

www.mrlucky.com has a recorded version of a show he does for some radio
station. He does a nice gig that sorta sounds like it's a cocktail hour
or something. I only listened to it once but it's within the realm of
what you're talking about.

Randy


On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:24:48 -0700 PjB <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming
> lounge/zotic radio shows on the web?


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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:39:39 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re:

>On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:24:48 -0700 PjB <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>> can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming
>> lounge/zotic radio shows on the web?

Look for "Space Bop" outta Montreal. .Cheryl and Brian post their playsists
and information on hooking in by computer every week


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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:48:32 -0600
From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor

alan  zweig wrote:

> Anyway I was just listening to Les Baxter's "African Jazz" and I
wondered if maybe my idiot mayor > got his information about Africa off
old exotica records.

or perhaps from this record:
http://fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/russell.htm

mike




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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:50:03 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Paint Like Shag

In a message dated 6/23/1 8:16:09 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I also picked up the latest issue of House Industries magazine today. As
>always, it's chockablock with great illustrations and fonts that I can't
>afford to buy...alas.

Its a good thing I'm a father because I got the House Industries Latin Fonts
for Fathers' Day..No CD with it, but some nice font and images...I'll install
it on the new IMac that just arrived Thursday as soon as we can get the Cable
Modem people to bring us up to snuff and exit modemville..JB/recipient of a
nice tax return


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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:44:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor

Or maybe just the covers.

- - bruce

On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, alan  zweig wrote:

> Anyway I was just listening to Les Baxter's "African Jazz" and I wondered
> if maybe my idiot mayor got his information about Africa off old exotica
> records.
>
> AZ



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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:53:13 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra / Frankie Stein

Are there any other exploitation records out there that Sun Ra (or any of the
other 60's avant-jazzers) appeared on?  Be interesting to see if there's
anyone out there who recorded for both ESP and Crown.... (or was that the
original label of the Batman records?  Crown that it, not ESP)
- -DavidH


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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:37:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor

what he said was no doubt crass, but what's the issue?
why should you anyone feel embarrassed? He's a
politician. The world is amusing.



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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 02:23:51 -0400
From: clayton black <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) NC Finds

I've been able to follow the discussions for the last few weeks but, because
our college's new e-mail system is apparently in MIME format, I haven't been
able to participate when I wanted to.  Anyway, I'm back from North Carolina
(and using a different system) and thought I'd share my finds, since most
people seem interested in that type of thing.  Of course I didn't come back
with any of the records I'd dreamed of finding, but after listening to them,
I'm more than satisfied.

Earl Grant, BALI HA'I
I'd wanted this for a long time, and the recent discussion whetted my
appetite further.  I'd say it's definitely better than Ebb Tide or Trade
Winds.

Dick Schory, MOVIN' ON
Music for Bang, Baroom, and Harp is about the only thing I hear about Dick
Schory, but my first impressions of this album are great.  The tunes by
pianist Les Hooper are pure detective thriller music.  I like the stuff on
RCA, but I'd put this one ahead anyway.

Laurie Johnson, ENGLAND'S NEW BIG BAND SOUND
Fantastic arrangements of old big band and broadway standards.  The genre
may sound boring, but this album isn't.  Every song belongs in either a
British TV series or the condiment aisle at your favorite grocery store.
The BEST versions of Bali Ha'i and Pagan Love Song I've heard--in fact, this
is the first version of Pagan Love Song I've really liked.

Jimmy McGriff, THE BIG BAND
This was in the bargain bin for 0.99.  It's the first one of his I've found.
The Solid State label seemed to be cashing in on the success of the Command
format for album presentation.

Ames Brothers, DESTINATION MOON
Only the Mono version, but it was only 3.50 and the vinyl's in terrific
shape.  The title track alone is worth it.

Milt Buckner, SEND ME SOFTLY
The title and the Jackie Gleason-esque cover led me to believe this might be
a snoozer.  It's pretty scratchy, but it was only a buck and I thought I'd
take a chance.  Despite the surface noise, this one's a winner.  A number of
the latiny numbers with Buckner's Hammond put me right in a kind of
cocktailly bliss.

Tommy Garrett et al., 50 GUITARS VISIT HAWAII
I don't recall if this was mentioned in recent discussions of  decent
Hawaiian albums, but this is a heckuva lot better than most of the Hawaii
stuff I've experimented with.  I'm usually dubious of the 50 Guitars, but
this one works for me.

Toots Thielemans, CONTRASTS
Whistling, harmonica.  I don't quite like this one as much as GUITAR AND
STRINGS, but very nice nonetheless.

Three Suns, THE THINGS I LOVE IN HI-FI
Bought this without looking at the vinyl--Owwch!  Pretty scratchy, but the
pep of the Ding Dong Dandy-like sound almost makes me look past it.  Great
guitar solos (Al Nevins or not).  Much better, I'd say, than the other Pipe
Organ album (MIDNIGHT FOR TWO?).

Others:
Terry Snyder, MISTER PERCUSSION
Nick Perito, BLAZING LATIN BRASS
Johnny Keating, SWING REVISITED (a snoozer)
Xavier Cugat, VIVA CUGAT! (still can't give up on this guy)

Maximum price--$4.50.  Most I got for a buck.
Now it's off to Estonia to see what I can find there.
Clayton




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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:44:00 +0200
From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra

> Are there any other exploitation records out there that Sun Ra
> (or any of the
> other 60's avant-jazzers) appeared on?

Yes, there is a Sun Ra limbo LP! Well, at least Ra and his Arkerstra are
rumoured to play on it.
Below are the details, that were posted to the Sun Ra mailinglist about 2
years ago.

Marco

- --------
The album is called "How Low Can You Go?" by
Roz Croney and appears on the Dauntless label.

Album information is as follows:

It's Limbo Time (Croney-Bland)
Limbo Like Me (arr: Croney-Bland)
Bagpipe Limbo (Lewis-Dviea-Grandison)
Doggie in the Window Limbo (Merrill)
The Limbo Queen (arr: Croney-Bland)
Everyday Limbo (Cheatham-Cheatham)
Kachink Limbo (Williams)
Loop De Loop Limbo (arr: Bland)
Bossa Nova Limbo (Bland)
How Low Does Lulu Limbo (Cheatham-Cheatham)
What Makes the Limbo Rock (Lewis)
Whole Lot of Shaking Going On (Williams)

Arranged and Conducted by Edward Bland
Copyright date 1963

Liner notes are taken from a 1961 Ebony article about Roz Croney,
centering largely on her Hollywood career (her credits, according
to the article, were teaching Dorothy Dandridge how to limbo in
"Island in the Sun," a late fifties feature, and her own
appearance in "Smart Affairs," a "show" (movie?) by someone named
Larry Steele from 1961).  Her limbo "record" supposedly was 7 1/2
inches.

Tune titles give an accurate idea of this campy, exploitative record.
I'll let others decide for themselves if they think it is indeed Ra
and Arkestra members on this album which is dominated by the vocals of
Roz Croney, rhythm guitar and lead guitar (a la Duane Eddy or Chuck
Berry).  Flute and reed solos are pretty much of the conservative
unsoulful "note" variety, and are of little interest, aside from the
presence of a bass clarinet solo, which again, is nothing special.
If they are members of the Arkestra, as Ed Bland remembers, who are
they?
I certainly can't tell.

Keyboards are the most soulful part of the album and appear on four or
five cuts.  "Bossa Nova Limbo" (which is not a Bossa Nova) has a chord
structure which resembles the theme from Batman (coincidental, since
they were written by two different people), and actually has a pretty
nice funky solo.  There's also a nice organ solo on the cover of "Whole
Lot of Shaking Going On."   A third number features a celeste sounding
keyboard instrument.  There is also one steel drum solo by someone who
does not appear real proficient with that instrument.  Does Ra appear?
A definite maybe, but there are others more qualified to say.  I have
not heard the Batman lp, and the final key to determining who actually
plays on this album may well lie in a comparison with these two lps.

As commercial and possibly repulsive you may find this album (especially
upon first listening),listening to this album enough times searching for
the presence of Ra and Arkestra members may find yourself humming some
of these embaressingly silly tunes to yourself as you walk down the
street.
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:33:51 -0700
From: PjB <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Sensational Guitars of Dan & Dale / Sun Ra

>Yes, there is a Sun Ra limbo LP! Well, at least Ra and his Arkerstra are
>rumoured to play on it.

wow. thanks for a great post-- a friend of mind played drums in a later
version of the arkestra.... slim chance, but i'll ask him about the limbo
record.

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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:19:27 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) streaming 'zotic...?

>can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming
>lounge/zotic radio shows on the web?

Some links to try out (some only have lounge/zotic at certain times, and
I'm not sure all of these are still working):

http://www.citizenkafka.com/

http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm/retro.html

http://www.thebranflakes.com/fp/index.html

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/audioq/audioq.htm

http://www.jetsetair.com/

http://www.pocreations.com/slim.html

http://www.tinfoil.com/

http://www.shellac.org/

http://www.edisonshop.com/

http://www.weirdsville.com/

http://www.muzak.com/

http://www.swankradio.com/

http://www.wfmu.org/

http://www.kfjc.org/

http://www.ckut.ca/english/ear.html

http://www.bigmess.com/

http://www.wrti.org/

http://www.wmbr.org/

http://www.kusf.org/


hope that helps,


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:35:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Empty hall?

I've got this album, and I also wondered the same thing. As far as I can
tell, he just recorded it at the Hall without an audience. I think there
are a few other albums out there that basically used some kind of music
venue as a recording studio to get a certain sound, I suppose. I think
Dick Schory's "Music for bang baaroom & harp" was also recorded on a
concert stage without an audience, and has a nice, big feel to it.
>
> - bruce
>
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, PjB wrote:
the version of 'cheek to cheek' on this record was, according to the
liner notes, done live at carnegie hall as part of a 'enoch light &
orchestra play irving berlin' concert, but i can hear no evidence of an
audience at all.... nothing.  anybody have this one, or know anything
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:03:38 -0700
From: PjB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..?

good evening, zotic brethren....

a friend of mine showed up today with a thrift score that has me scratching
my chin.
it's on the Mainstream Records, Inc. label, which itself seems to be a
rather shadowy affair... i have no idea if the label still exists, as i can
find very little info on it on the web.
the record in question is called 'Images'  by Dean Christopher and his
Orchestra.
it is a record of current (at the time.... 60s) radio hits performed by a
large orchestra.
some of the tunes are:  Eli's Coming, Jennifer Juniper, Lay Lady Lay, Lady
Madonna, and Proud Mary.  the arrangements are uniformly horrible.  it is
truly a bizarre record.... glossy, heavy-cardboard gatefold (single disc),
with an artsy abstract painting on the cover and long, vague and
meaningless liner notes.
what is even stranger, i can find not one iota of info about Dean
Christopher.  i did find 2 or 3 vinyl retailers on the web that happen to
have this record in stock, but that's it... and from what i can tell, this
is his only record.

anybody have a clue about this guy..?

.02
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:07:09 -0500
From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: (exotica) Second try..

randy wrote:
Yep, and it's always a good excuse to drink. There are two categories
of
cocktails: slow and easy and peppy. Observe:
Slow and Easy: Martini
Peppy: Daiquiri
+++++++++++++++++

Oooooooh yeaaaaaaaaah.


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:25:11 -0700
From: "basic hip" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) NC Finds

> Toots Thielemans, CONTRASTS
> Whistling, harmonica.  I don't quite like this one as much as GUITAR AND
> STRINGS, but very nice nonetheless.

Toots is an expert whistler!  He did one album "The Whistler and his Guitar"
(ABC Paramount) where he whistles on every track.  Some good ones in there
too, like Wives and Lovers, Manhattan, Deep Purple and three original
compositions, including his famous Bluesette.  All star lineup includes Dick
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:09:31 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..?

At 08:03 PM 6/24/01 -0700, PjB wrote:
>
>good evening, zotic brethren....
>
>a friend of mine showed up today with a thrift score that has me scratching
>my chin.
>it's on the Mainstream Records, Inc. label, which itself seems to be a
>rather shadowy affair...

I don't know what you mean by shadowy.
Mainstream was basically Bob Shad's label.
Bob Shad was a producer, who according to the story on his record "Bobby
Shad and the Bad Men" - one of the biggest messes I've ever owned -
produced or "recorded" Janis Joplin, Dizzy Gillespie, Morganna King, the
Amboy Dukes, Cannonball Adderly and the Platters.
I have six or seven records on this label, most of which have a very
similar feel.  That is, a kind of jazzy Now Sound, a bit on the heavy side.
Heavy meaning a bit too plodding, a bit too serious.
Probably the most famous record on Mainstream as far as this list goes
would be "Rated X for Excitement" by Ron Frangipane, an artist who helps
out on a bunch of other Mainstream records.
Frangipane also made a record which - amazingly to me anyway - was
dedicated to "The Music of Laura Nyro" but X for Excitement is a sort of
mediocre MOOG record.
Frangipane is actually an interesting case.  He should definitely have his
own page on the spaceagepop website, if he doesn't already.
Anyway back to Mainstream.
I have that Dean Christopher record.  It's not bad.
I guess my "best" Mainstream record is probably the one called "Motion
Pictures The Now Generation" by Joe Scott and his orchestra.
The weirdest record is a toss-up between Bob Shad's version of "Whole Lotta
Love" and the Ernie Wilkins record "Hard Mother Blues".
Weird because like I said, this stuff can get heavy to the point of turgid.
Another good record on Mainstream is "Girls With Brass" by Vic Schoen.
Good but a bit weird like everything on this label.

AZ



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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:28:55 -0400
From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the exotica mayor

That article actually made it into the Boston Globe on Friday.  I almost
spit out my coffee from laughing so hard while reading it!

BTW, for those interested in tiki stuff, our trip to Boston yielded lots of
goodies from Newbury Comics - they now carry tiki mugs!  And we even got a
plastic tiki mug for Alexander...


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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:30:41 -0400
From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:

Yeah, but we're unfortunately only real time for now, not on demand - so you
can only listen Sundays from 4 to 5 eastern.

cheryl

From: <[e-mail]>

> >> can someone tell me where i might find some realaudio streaming
> >> lounge/zotic radio shows on the web?
>
> Look for "Space Bop" outta Montreal. .Cheryl and Brian post their
playsists
> and information on hooking in by computer every week




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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:48:41 -0700
From: PjB <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dean Christopher & orchestra..?

>I don't know what you mean by shadowy.

not very visible.

>I have that Dean Christopher record.  It's not bad.

well....i think it sounds like a high school music student trying his hand
at arranging pop tunes of mostly questionable quality that should never
have been subjected to a silly 'orchestral' treatment to begin with.
records like this benefit no one..... not even the session musicians who
play on them.  and *certainly* not the composers of the tunes, for whom the
tiny royalties generated by such a marginal issue hardly compensate for the
nauseating and insensitive drubbing given their work by a one trick pony
like Dean Christopher.  it's frankly embarrassing.  they make everybody
look bad.

and i am a connoisseur of the mediocre.  but this is_bad_mediocre.

.02
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:56:48 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) definitly Thai

Just checked it with a Thai woman in our office,  she giggled and said.
'Yep,  Thai - its cool'

El Maestro Con Queso

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:00:20 +0800
From: "William" <>
Subject: (exotica) language

hi all,

  does anyone know what language is being sung in the background to this? or
who it happens to be?

                     http://www.ewitewit.com/khorborg/

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:45:17
From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Roland Shaw and his Orchestra

Just saw a record 'The James Bond Adventure - Roland Shaw and his Orchestra'
in a shop the other day. They didn't have a turntable in case you might
actually buy anything. Anyone know anything about it? It is JBond film
music, couple of versions of the theme and one or two originals. Probably
'inspired by' or something. Anyway at nearly a tenner (that's about 25
Canadian dollars!) i wasn't prepared to risk it and bought a generic twist
record and Fulsome Prison Blues for 50p each instead.
rob

PS good for me in this kind of thing is Now Sound
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:55:36 +0100
From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Roland Shaw and his Orchestra

Robert McKenna wrote:
>
> Just saw a record 'The James Bond Adventure - Roland Shaw and his Orchestra'
> in a shop the other day. They didn't have a turntable in case you might
> actually buy anything. Anyone know anything about it? It is JBond film
> music, couple of versions of the theme and one or two originals. Probably
> 'inspired by' or something. Anyway at nearly a tenner (that's about 25
> Canadian dollars!) i wasn't prepared to risk it and bought a generic twist
> record and Fulsome Prison Blues for 50p each instead.
> rob
>
> PS good for me in this kind of thing is Now Sound

There's about 3 Roland Shaw Bond lps i think - I've got 2, and also 2
Roland Shaw compilations, which have some of the Bond tracks along with
other spy-type music. I wouldn't pay a tenner for any - I think 3 quid
was the most I paid, but they're quite often priced highly (the cool
covers probably helping a lot here).

If you're interested I would consider selling/trading my Roland
Shaw/James Bond CD, which is the best tracks off the albums.


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