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exotica-digest         Tuesday, April 7 1998         Volume 02 : Number 087



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) moon river
Re: (exotica) moon river
(exotica) Cugat
(exotica) easy tempo
(exotica) test (sorry everyone)
Re: (exotica) collected thoughts/surf instro's
(exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee
(exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee
(exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee
Re: (exotica) moon river
(exotica) Space Age Bachelor Pad Music
Re: (exotica) Accordions, harps, bagpipes....what's next?
Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3
Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3
Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3
(exotica) Moon River
Re: (exotica) moon river
Re: (exotica) moon river
(exotica) Re: moon river
Re: (exotica) Accordions, harps, bagpipes....what's next?
Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3
[Phil Clark: (exotica) collected  thoughts]
(exotica) Cugat -Reply
RE: (exotica) Cugat -Reply
(exotica) You Light My Fire, Astrud
RE: (exotica) Cugat -Reply -Reply
(exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee
(exotica) Joe Maphis
Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3
Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3
(exotica) Cugat
(exotica) easy tempo
(exotica) test (sorry everyone)
(exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee
Re: (exotica) les_'YperSound
(exotica) Naive Hawaiian song question
Re: (exotica) collected thoughts/surf instro's
RE: (exotica) Cugat -Reply -Reply

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:04:34 -0400
From: Joe Kilmartin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) moon river

At 10:27 AM 03/04/1998 +0000, you wrote:
>
>Nan Vernon's version of moon river on the "Shots in the Dark"
>Comp from Del-Fi is fan-fuggin-tastic. Moody, mysterious, wistful, and
>ohhhhhh soooooo sexy. I'ts the last track on the CD, and if you let
>yourself sit quietly and reflect on it's beauty for two minutes or so
>after the song has faded out it fades back in and continues in FRENCH!


That's not French its Japanese...

and yes.. most of teh covers on that CD are incredible.. I really loved our
own Bro Cleve's  contribution...



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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:04:34 -0400
From: Joe Kilmartin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) moon river

At 10:27 AM 03/04/1998 +0000, you wrote:
>
>Nan Vernon's version of moon river on the "Shots in the Dark"
>Comp from Del-Fi is fan-fuggin-tastic. Moody, mysterious, wistful, and
>ohhhhhh soooooo sexy. I'ts the last track on the CD, and if you let
>yourself sit quietly and reflect on it's beauty for two minutes or so
>after the song has faded out it fades back in and continues in FRENCH!


That's not French its Japanese...

and yes.. most of teh covers on that CD are incredible.. I really loved our
own Bro Cleve's  contribution...



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:21:45 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Cugat

I would agree that because it was more quirky and pop orchestral and less
authentically latin, this doesn't make Cugat's later stuff any less
valid.

I love the mercury albums I have, especially the ultra atmospheric
version of Jungle drums on 'viva cugat'.  Although I only own one of his
Decca albums, 'Xavier Cugat today', I had the impression that his records
on this label was pretty cool as well - can anyone confirm this?

regards

Jonny, currently very much enjoying hearing Ella Fitzgerald singing
'Laura'

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:15:41 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) easy tempo

I am about to splash out on a volume of Easy Tempo.
Which one would people recommend most highly?
I thought 4 looked pretty cool.

regards

Jonny

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 17:15:50 -0400
From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) test (sorry everyone)

Excuse me, everyone, I'm just testing out this scary new computer.

thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:44:15 -0400
From: "Dick Diablo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) collected thoughts/surf instro's

Phil Clark wrote:
>i) Surf instrumentals. Where to start?

The two Rhino surf comp's m.ace recommended are a good place to start for a
general overview of vintage surf instrumentals, although there is a bit of
overlap between the two. I would recommend the Guitar Player Presents
Legends Of Guitar - Surf Vol.1 for the most bang for your buck. The Rare
Surf series is great also, but I believe these are already out of print.
Another terrific vintage surf comp:

Surf Legends (And Rumors): Rockin' Instrumentals 1961-64
(1995 Garland GRZ-019)
This digs into more obscure stuff, but is worth owning just for The
Surftones "Cecilia Ann" (later covered by The Pixies). Lots of other gems as
well.

Some other essential reissues by individual artists:
     The Best of Dick Dale & His Del-Tones (1989 Rhino R2 75756)
     The Lively Ones - Hang Five!!! The Best of (1995 Del-Fi CD 9004)
     The Shadows - Shadows Are Go! (1996 Scamp SCP 9711-2)
     (The) Ventures In Space (reissued as a two-fer)

Of course, there are a lot of great contemporary bands doing instrumental
surf, among my faves are:
Laika & The Cosmonauts - lovely outer space exotic/spy soundtrack oriented
surf from Finland!
Los Straighjackets - twangin', footstompin', kick ass surfabilly. Don't miss
'em live!
The Fathoms - pure vintage surf with sax.

My favorite comps of contemporary surf/exotic bands:

Secret Agent S.O.U.N.D.S. (MaiTai DD 0118)
Super spy instrumentals by Combustible Edison, The Tiki Tones, Laika & The
Cosmonauts, Los Straightjackets and others

Tube: Atlantic Surf Essentials (1996 cherrydisc 22845-2)
Surf/spy/sci-fi madness from the U.S. Atlantic coast

Spaghetti Vol. 1 "Duck You Suckers!" (One Million Dollar 012)
Sort of an Ennio Morricone tribute flavored with sinister spaghetti western
instrumentals

Thanks for the opportunity to share my tastes. Back to lurkin' (and lovin'),

                                                 Dick Diablo








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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:21:00 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee

"Criss Cross" (1949) is airing on AMC Thursday afternoon, 2:45 pm (eastern
daylight time). This is a Robert Siodmak-directed film noir, starring Burt
Lancaster -- there's also a cool Latin combo in the nightclub scenes. I forget
who they are, but it was discussed here at some point. The formal score is by
Miklos Rozsa. Includes some good street location footage (LA, I guess). Does
anyone else dig location footage in old films for its 'time travel' kick? ("The
Naked City" (1948) has a lot of cool views of NYC)

A&E's Biography (8:00 pm) profiles Dean Martin on Tuesday, Fatty Arbuckle on
Wednesday and Liberace on Friday. Somehow, I find this very scary.

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:21:00 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee

"Criss Cross" (1949) is airing on AMC Thursday afternoon, 2:45 pm (eastern
daylight time). This is a Robert Siodmak-directed film noir, starring Burt
Lancaster -- there's also a cool Latin combo in the nightclub scenes. I forget
who they are, but it was discussed here at some point. The formal score is by
Miklos Rozsa. Includes some good street location footage (LA, I guess). Does
anyone else dig location footage in old films for its 'time travel' kick? ("The
Naked City" (1948) has a lot of cool views of NYC)

A&E's Biography (8:00 pm) profiles Dean Martin on Tuesday, Fatty Arbuckle on
Wednesday and Liberace on Friday. Somehow, I find this very scary.

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:21:00 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee

"Criss Cross" (1949) is airing on AMC Thursday afternoon, 2:45 pm (eastern
daylight time). This is a Robert Siodmak-directed film noir, starring Burt
Lancaster -- there's also a cool Latin combo in the nightclub scenes. I forget
who they are, but it was discussed here at some point. The formal score is by
Miklos Rozsa. Includes some good street location footage (LA, I guess). Does
anyone else dig location footage in old films for its 'time travel' kick? ("The
Naked City" (1948) has a lot of cool views of NYC)

A&E's Biography (8:00 pm) profiles Dean Martin on Tuesday, Fatty Arbuckle on
Wednesday and Liberace on Friday. Somehow, I find this very scary.

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:07:52 -0700
From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) moon river

Joe Kilmartin wrote:
>
> At 10:27 AM 03/04/1998 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> >Nan Vernon's version of moon river on the "Shots in the Dark"
> >Comp from Del-Fi is fan-fuggin-tastic. Moody, mysterious, wistful, and
> >ohhhhhh soooooo sexy.

couldn't resist piping in here..... anyone interested in this track
should check out my webpage (and my band Optiganally Yours, for that
matter...)

http://www.pilot.com/optigan

Nan Vernon is accompanied on Moon River by an Optigan.....

cheers/pea


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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:01:22 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Chester W. Nimitz)
Subject: (exotica) Space Age Bachelor Pad Music

I bought the Space Age Pop Vol 1 comp today and I'm really fascinated with
the production of this kind of music. Were these artists and composers
allowed to go as far as they wanted to or did the recordcompanies say "Hey,
y'r not allowed to be *too* experimental" in fear of selling no records?
According to the CD-booklet, music like this was really popular at the time
so the public obviously didn't mind standards with oddball arrangements!
But did the recordcompanies tell the artists "y'r allowed to go this far -
but not any further" or did they encourage Esquivel and Co to be as
experimental as they wanted to? I mean, this was almost ten years before
the Beatles and The Beach Boys made it 'acceptable' to experiment with
tapeloops and backwards echoeffects...In terms of 'psychedelic' music, I
definitely think that some of these Space Age artists have been and
continues to be uncredited for their groundbreaking sonic experiments. In a
way, they were the grandfathers of psychedelia and ambient music! Even
today's techno music like Mouse On Mars and Aphex Twin bear a remarkable
simularity to Space Age music in terms of attitude towards sounds and sonic
music in general.

Blah blah blah :)

Chester W. Nimitz

"Wahhala loo lei,
 Wahhala loo la,
 Kini Wakapoola"




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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:02:03 EDT
From: Micheleflp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Accordions, harps, bagpipes....what's next?

In a message dated 98-03-27 09:33:41 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Pleaaaase let it be a thread about xylophones and marimbas! ^_^ I _love_
 xylophone records!

 Thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^
  >>

I agree - the vibes are my fave exotica instrument!

- - Michele


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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:02:06 EDT
From: Micheleflp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3

In a message dated 98-03-29 11:18:06 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< >So if I want it, am I "they"?  What if I just like Walter Wanderley?  What
 >if I just like organ?  What if I have no taste of my own and want
 >everything that I see on a list?  What if I read that some guy named jack
 >says it's "killer" and I automatically think "I want that"?
 >What if I want it simply because I don't have it?
 >Nat

 Yeah, you're part of the "they people", Nat
  >>

Who is "they" and what album is this?  I've been in New England for the past
week and seem to be missing some threads.

- - Michele


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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 20:12:19 -0700
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3

I'm not on the list anymore and won't be for awhile so PLEASE,
ask those other freaks;^)

Jaaaaaaaaack

At 11:02 PM 4/6/98 EDT, Micheleflp wrote:
>In a message dated 98-03-29 11:18:06 EST, [e-mail] writes:
>
><< >So if I want it, am I "they"?  What if I just like Walter Wanderley?
What
> >if I just like organ?  What if I have no taste of my own and want
> >everything that I see on a list?  What if I read that some guy named jack
> >says it's "killer" and I automatically think "I want that"?
> >What if I want it simply because I don't have it?
> >Nat
>
> Yeah, you're part of the "they people", Nat
>  >>
>
>Who is "they" and what album is this?  I've been in New England for the past
>week and seem to be missing some threads.
>
>- Michele
>
>



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:02:06 EDT
From: Micheleflp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3

In a message dated 98-03-29 11:18:06 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< >So if I want it, am I "they"?  What if I just like Walter Wanderley?  What
 >if I just like organ?  What if I have no taste of my own and want
 >everything that I see on a list?  What if I read that some guy named jack
 >says it's "killer" and I automatically think "I want that"?
 >What if I want it simply because I don't have it?
 >Nat

 Yeah, you're part of the "they people", Nat
  >>

Who is "they" and what album is this?  I've been in New England for the past
week and seem to be missing some threads.

- - Michele


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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:02:08 EDT
From: Micheleflp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moon River

In a message dated 98-04-01 09:10:20 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Your validity just totally went down the toilet mentioning that
 your favorite part of "BAT" was when Audrey sings "Moon
 River" EGAD!!!!  RALPH!!!!  What STOOOOPID ridiculous
 lyrics - I HATE THAT SONG!!!!!!
  >>

Hah!  I finally find someone else who hates that song.  Hooray!!!

- - Michele


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:12:32 EDT
From: Micheleflp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) moon river

In a message dated 98-04-02 14:19:24 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Maybe this is the start of a new thread?  I actually can't think of any
 exotica-ish songs that I really despise.  And I can think of some that
 probably annoy almost eveyone but me (like "Witchita Lineman," even when
 Jim Neighbors sings it). >>

I'm trying to catch up on a week's worth of backlog exotica list mail, so from
my viewpoint, I totally agree with the original poster, that I hate Moon River
(well not totally - I heard one pepped up rendition by somoeone that I liked -
sorry, can't remember the version) - but why is everyone getting upset about
this person's expressing that they hate Moon River?  Why take it personally?
If I liked a song and someone said they hated it, I wouldn't take it
personally.

- - Michele


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:12:32 EDT
From: Micheleflp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) moon river

In a message dated 98-04-02 14:19:24 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Maybe this is the start of a new thread?  I actually can't think of any
 exotica-ish songs that I really despise.  And I can think of some that
 probably annoy almost eveyone but me (like "Witchita Lineman," even when
 Jim Neighbors sings it). >>

I'm trying to catch up on a week's worth of backlog exotica list mail, so from
my viewpoint, I totally agree with the original poster, that I hate Moon River
(well not totally - I heard one pepped up rendition by somoeone that I liked -
sorry, can't remember the version) - but why is everyone getting upset about
this person's expressing that they hate Moon River?  Why take it personally?
If I liked a song and someone said they hated it, I wouldn't take it
personally.

- - Michele


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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 03:06:53 -0700
From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: moon river

Ron Grandia wrote:
>
> ooohhhh... I thought it was some kind of synth tweaked out to sound
> accoustic.
> I'm gonna check the page, but howzabout some info on the optigan posted to
> the list?

well, if i'm not mistaken, i think many of the folks on the list are
already familiar with the Optigan..... the
ugly-little-record-playing-brown-organ-made-by-Mattel-in-the-early-70's-that-could.

...so i won't go into it. anyone interested in checking out a fantastic
piece of 70's musical kitsch, though, should romp over to my website:

http://www.pilot.com/optigan

thanks for the interest!!

cheers/pea


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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:02:03 EDT
From: Micheleflp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Accordions, harps, bagpipes....what's next?

In a message dated 98-03-27 09:33:41 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Pleaaaase let it be a thread about xylophones and marimbas! ^_^ I _love_
 xylophone records!

 Thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^
  >>

I agree - the vibes are my fave exotica instrument!

- - Michele


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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:02:06 EDT
From: Micheleflp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3

In a message dated 98-03-29 11:18:06 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< >So if I want it, am I "they"?  What if I just like Walter Wanderley?  What
 >if I just like organ?  What if I have no taste of my own and want
 >everything that I see on a list?  What if I read that some guy named jack
 >says it's "killer" and I automatically think "I want that"?
 >What if I want it simply because I don't have it?
 >Nat

 Yeah, you're part of the "they people", Nat
  >>

Who is "they" and what album is this?  I've been in New England for the past
week and seem to be missing some threads.

- - Michele


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:25:03 +0100
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Phil Clark: (exotica) collected  thoughts]

> From: "Phil Clark" <[e-mail]>

> Anyway. The mention of "Light my Fire" above makes me wonder what are folks'
> favourite covers of this Golden Oldie (tm) - howzabout Julie London's
> treatment on a late-60s album on Liberty (I think it's called "Yummy Yummy
> Yummy" ?) where she does contemporary pop choons inna sultry torch song
> stylee (including a smooooochy version of "Louie Louie" of all
> thangs)  And I quite like the Ros version - lush Phase 4 stereo,
> swingin arrangement as I recall. Any other suggestions?>
>

The Helmut Zacharias version is outstanding "easydelica" -- there's a
not too difficult to find "Sounds Superb" Z. album with this on, and
it also appears on one of the Ultralounge discs (?). The Woody Herman
version is also nice -- I've got it on an old compilation LP ("The
Wharfedale Sound") which also contains Benny Goodman's truly brilliant
version of "This Guy's In Love With You".



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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 08:52:12 -0400
From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cugat -Reply

Okay, the real reason you all love Cugat is because of his
IMAGE.  Who can resist a guy with a pinky ring, small
chihuahua (sp???) dog, slicked-up hair-do and a bevy of
beehived beauties!......

It's perfect for him and the music.

- - Nate


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:58:48 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Cugat -Reply

Nate ,

You are correct, he has the image.  Why I fell in love with "the Best of
Cugat" LP that my Dad had?

...the big buxom blonde woman on the cover.

But really, I honestly love the congas in Amapola.  WOW!!!

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman

>
>
>Okay, the real reason you all love Cugat is because of his
>IMAGE.  Who can resist a guy with a pinky ring, small
>chihuahua (sp???) dog, slicked-up hair-do and a bevy of
>beehived beauties!......
>


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:47:37 +0200
From: "David Retief" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) You Light My Fire, Astrud

Phil wrote:

>> Anyway. The mention of "Light my Fire" above makes me wonder what are
folks'
> favourite covers of this Golden Oldie (tm)

I agree that the Helmut Zacharias version is great!  Helmut has some great
funky 70's Studio2Stereo albums - best version of Cherry Pink and Apple
blossom with echoey femal vocal intro!
Another great Light My Fire would have to be off Astrud Gilberto -
September 1969.  This is perhaps my favourite Astrud album.  The production
gives her voice a richer quality rather than the ethereal focus of previous
albums (that's not to say I don't love em ALL!).  Contains the 7min epic
Beginnings (off Espresso Espresso), and a great version of the old Bee Gees
hit Holiday, and Canto da Ossana?

Does anyone have other early 70's albums of Astrud that has similar
production?  The CTI album with Stanley Turrentine and Deodata is not
really THAT sound (I thought this one a bit dissappointing considering).

DavidR.




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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:13:27 -0400
From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Cugat -Reply -Reply

And image isn't a bad thing......but I do think without it Cugat
would not be as popular........

- - Nate


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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:21:00 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee

"Criss Cross" (1949) is airing on AMC Thursday afternoon, 2:45 pm (eastern
daylight time). This is a Robert Siodmak-directed film noir, starring Burt
Lancaster -- there's also a cool Latin combo in the nightclub scenes. I forget
who they are, but it was discussed here at some point. The formal score is by
Miklos Rozsa. Includes some good street location footage (LA, I guess). Does
anyone else dig location footage in old films for its 'time travel' kick? ("The
Naked City" (1948) has a lot of cool views of NYC)

A&E's Biography (8:00 pm) profiles Dean Martin on Tuesday, Fatty Arbuckle on
Wednesday and Liberace on Friday. Somehow, I find this very scary.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 07:17:44 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Joe Maphis

There has been some dialog here about instrumental surf music, T.
Terauchi, etc. Anyone who has an interest in guitar music, exotic or
otherwise, should pick up Joe Maphis' Flying Fingers CD (Bear Family).
For the benefit of anyone who is not familiar with Maphis, he was an
amazing country-rooted guitarist from Suffolk, VA whose lightening-fast,
"flatpicking" style influenced guitarists such as Larry Collins, Roy
Clark and Jimmy Bryant. Not only was this guy's sheer speed and
precision amazing, but so are the variety of styles he covered. The
Flying Fingers disk includes bluegrass, country, guitar boogie,
rockabilly, proto-surf (fast double picking, no reverb, of course)and
what could be described as exotica (a guitar/bongo exchange on "Navajo"
and the strange, Latin influenced "Black Sombrero" which features a pipe
organ. Best musical purchase I've made in some time.

bw

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:24:19 EDT
From: BasicHip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3

<< Who is "they" and what album is this?  I've been in New England for the
past
 week and seem to be missing some threads. >>

there is no "they" album, michelle.  all this back and forth "they" stuff was
part of a difference of opinion.  then it turned into a play on words.




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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 20:12:19 -0700
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Florida Excursion, part 3

I'm not on the list anymore and won't be for awhile so PLEASE,
ask those other freaks;^)

Jaaaaaaaaack

At 11:02 PM 4/6/98 EDT, Micheleflp wrote:
>In a message dated 98-03-29 11:18:06 EST, [e-mail] writes:
>
><< >So if I want it, am I "they"?  What if I just like Walter Wanderley?
What
> >if I just like organ?  What if I have no taste of my own and want
> >everything that I see on a list?  What if I read that some guy named jack
> >says it's "killer" and I automatically think "I want that"?
> >What if I want it simply because I don't have it?
> >Nat
>
> Yeah, you're part of the "they people", Nat
>  >>
>
>Who is "they" and what album is this?  I've been in New England for the past
>week and seem to be missing some threads.
>
>- Michele
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:21:45 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Cugat

I would agree that because it was more quirky and pop orchestral and less
authentically latin, this doesn't make Cugat's later stuff any less
valid.

I love the mercury albums I have, especially the ultra atmospheric
version of Jungle drums on 'viva cugat'.  Although I only own one of his
Decca albums, 'Xavier Cugat today', I had the impression that his records
on this label was pretty cool as well - can anyone confirm this?

regards

Jonny, currently very much enjoying hearing Ella Fitzgerald singing
'Laura'

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:15:41 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) easy tempo

I am about to splash out on a volume of Easy Tempo.
Which one would people recommend most highly?
I thought 4 looked pretty cool.

regards

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 17:15:50 -0400
From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) test (sorry everyone)

Excuse me, everyone, I'm just testing out this scary new computer.

thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:21:00 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Criss Cross, Dino, Fatty & Lee

"Criss Cross" (1949) is airing on AMC Thursday afternoon, 2:45 pm (eastern
daylight time). This is a Robert Siodmak-directed film noir, starring Burt
Lancaster -- there's also a cool Latin combo in the nightclub scenes. I forget
who they are, but it was discussed here at some point. The formal score is by
Miklos Rozsa. Includes some good street location footage (LA, I guess). Does
anyone else dig location footage in old films for its 'time travel' kick? ("The
Naked City" (1948) has a lot of cool views of NYC)

A&E's Biography (8:00 pm) profiles Dean Martin on Tuesday, Fatty Arbuckle on
Wednesday and Liberace on Friday. Somehow, I find this very scary.

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:01:48 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Chester W. Nimitz)
Subject: Re: (exotica) les_'YperSound

Who came up with the term 'les ypersound' from the beginning? Just
wondering cos I've had Pierre Henry's "Psych Rock" on a mixtape for a while
and the guy who made the tape had the song written down on the
cassette-sleeve as 'Pierre Henry (Les Yper Sound): "Psych ROck"' but then I
got on this list and I see lots of artists have used the term...I always
assumed it was something Henry came up with but I guess I was wrong....

Chester W. Nimitz

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 Wahhala loo la,
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Date: Tue,  7 Apr 1998 17:22:46 UT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Naive Hawaiian song question

I'm afraid of the answer being far too obvious,
but has anyone seen that annoying Old Navy Island commercial?  The reason I
bring it up is because they close with an EXTREMELY familiar Hawaiian type song
playing in the background.  I've been humming it for days and I need to know
what it is, and who it's by.  I'm sure it something particularly famous, and
maybe very obvious to people on this list, but I have no idea.  For reference,
the first few bars are also referenced by Arthur Lyman in Aloha Oe, on his Leis
of Jazz release.

If I could imbed sound, I'd hum it for you.
But alas, I can only give references.

Does anyone know the commercial I mean and the song I seek?

Thanks,
PeterR


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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:44:15 -0400
From: "Dick Diablo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) collected thoughts/surf instro's

Phil Clark wrote:
>i) Surf instrumentals. Where to start?

The two Rhino surf comp's m.ace recommended are a good place to start for a
general overview of vintage surf instrumentals, although there is a bit of
overlap between the two. I would recommend the Guitar Player Presents
Legends Of Guitar - Surf Vol.1 for the most bang for your buck. The Rare
Surf series is great also, but I believe these are already out of print.
Another terrific vintage surf comp:

Surf Legends (And Rumors): Rockin' Instrumentals 1961-64
(1995 Garland GRZ-019)
This digs into more obscure stuff, but is worth owning just for The
Surftones "Cecilia Ann" (later covered by The Pixies). Lots of other gems as
well.

Some other essential reissues by individual artists:
     The Best of Dick Dale & His Del-Tones (1989 Rhino R2 75756)
     The Lively Ones - Hang Five!!! The Best of (1995 Del-Fi CD 9004)
     The Shadows - Shadows Are Go! (1996 Scamp SCP 9711-2)
     (The) Ventures In Space (reissued as a two-fer)

Of course, there are a lot of great contemporary bands doing instrumental
surf, among my faves are:
Laika & The Cosmonauts - lovely outer space exotic/spy soundtrack oriented
surf from Finland!
Los Straighjackets - twangin', footstompin', kick ass surfabilly. Don't miss
'em live!
The Fathoms - pure vintage surf with sax.

My favorite comps of contemporary surf/exotic bands:

Secret Agent S.O.U.N.D.S. (MaiTai DD 0118)
Super spy instrumentals by Combustible Edison, The Tiki Tones, Laika & The
Cosmonauts, Los Straightjackets and others

Tube: Atlantic Surf Essentials (1996 cherrydisc 22845-2)
Surf/spy/sci-fi madness from the U.S. Atlantic coast

Spaghetti Vol. 1 "Duck You Suckers!" (One Million Dollar 012)
Sort of an Ennio Morricone tribute flavored with sinister spaghetti western
instrumentals

Thanks for the opportunity to share my tastes. Back to lurkin' (and lovin'),

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:37:19 -0700
From: Steve Sando <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Cugat -Reply -Reply

At 09:13 AM 4/7/98 -0400, NATHAN MINER wrote:
>
>And image isn't a bad thing......but I do think without it Cugat
>would not be as popular........

I can remain silent no longer!!!

Xavier Cugat was one of the first Latin orchestra leaders after Don
Azpiazu's big hit of "The Peanut Vendor (El Manicero)". His very early work
is a really an interesting mix of authentic rhythms, hybrid songs and
American arrangements and orchestrations. It was also incredibly popular
long before the dogs and ex-wives. He admits he watered down the Cuban
thing for Yankee audiences but have you heard Cuban music from the 1920s? I
like it now in doses and appreciate the historical significance but it's
not what developed later with Beny More' and Arsenio Rodriguez, who were
both influenced by our music.

Later on, his work was uneven but he did a lot of great rhumbas and his
Mambo stuff could be great (best on Blue Moon's two "Mambo!" CDs). Unlike
Prado, he was pretty faithful to the clave beat throughout his career.

My fear is he is now being judged by the countless hack albums that are
being found in thrift bins, which are funny and sometimes pretty good or
"incredibly strange", but not representitive of his career.

Obviously, I dig Cugie. For me his image is just icing on the cake.


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