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exotica-digest Saturday, January 24 1998 Volume 02 : Number 039
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:32:50 +0200
From: "Waldo Muller" <wmuller@dieburger.com>
Subject: (exotica) Up Up And An Ooops
A red-faced reply to my own posting...
I wrote:
> My memory might be failing me and I can't check because my record
> collection is not here at work, but - I think there is quite a rocking,
big
> production "Up, Up and Away" on 101 Strings' sitar-tinted "Sounds of
Today"
Er, well, I was wrong. I confused "Sounds of Today" with er ... "Mantovani
Today" - which contains an mid-tempo, high-EZ version of "Up, Up and Away".
There's also a pleasantly twee twang-twang version by Enoch Light's Guitar
Underground. But avoid the solo violin massacre on "The Sensational Sounds
of Zacharias".
Waldo
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:08:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) RIP- Jack Lord
HONOLULU, Jan. 22 (UPI) -- The actor best known for his staccato
``book 'em, Danno'' on television's ``Hawaii Five-0'' program has died
of heart failure at the age of 78.
Jack Lord portrayed Detective Steve McGarrett on the island-based cop
show for 12 years, ending in 1980.
During that time, actor James MacArthur played his sidekick, Danny
``Danno'' Williams. Most of the show's 284 episodes ended with McGarrett
nabbing criminals and saying to Williams, ``Book em, Danno!''
After filming of ``Hawaii Five-0'' came to an end, Lord and his wife
Marie elected to stay in the islands, where he died at his home on
Wednesday night.
Family members say that at Lord's request, there will be no funeral.
Lord was born in New York City on Dec. 30, 1930.
He studied art and earned a bachelor's degree at New York Univerity.
His art has been displayed at several museums, including the
Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Museum of Modern Art.
He appeared in many feature films, including ``The Court Martial of
Billy Mitchell,'' ``God's Little Acre'' and ``Dr. No.''
On television, Lord appeared on the drama anthologies ``Playhouse
90'', ``Studio One'' and ``The U.S. Steel Hour.''
He had dozens of guest-starring roles in TV series, including ``Have
Gun Will Travel,'' ``The Untouchables,'' ``Naked City,'' ``Rawhide,''
``Bonanza'' and ``The Fugitive.''
In the 1962-63 season, he starred in the TV western ``Stoney Burke''
as a professional rodeo rider.
``Hawaii Five-O'' premiered in 1968. Filmed entirely on location in
Hawaii, the police drama brought exotic scenery into viewers' living
rooms in prime time.
In addition to starring in ``Hawaii Five-O,'' Lord also directed many
episodes of the show.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:50:54 EST
From: ChuckTFrog <ChuckTFrog@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb/Van Dyke Parks
I rather like "Carpet Man" and "The Magic Garden" also by Webb. I suppose
the best of is a good place to start as any. "Carpet Man" has the most
wonderful sitar at the end.
Webb also wrote "Macarthur Park". The Richard Harris version is very well
orchestrated, all seven minutes of it! He may have also written "The Yard
Went on Forever", which is also lushly orchestrated.
>>
He did write "Yard" and all the tunes on it. Harris recorded 3 albums with
Webb (who wrote all the songs on the first & second) AFAIK
A Tramp Shining, Dunhill DS-50032
The Yard Went On Forever Dunhill DS-50042
My Boy Dunhill DSX-50116
Regards
Chuck
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:44:15 EST
From: ChuckTFrog <ChuckTFrog@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb
Jimmy Webb was (is?) a songwriter in the tradition of the great craftsmen of
music. In a 60's-70's sort of way, he is the logical descendant of Berlin,
VanHeusen, Richard Rodgers, Jerome Kern, with a grasp of melody, harmony,
voice-leading, dynamics, and orchestration (assuming he did them all) that has
rarely been approached, never mind equalled, especially in the 90's power-
chord culture. IMHO, all the 5th Dimension-Webb collaborations, and all the
Richard Harris-Webb are masterpieces of the aforementioned (to various
degrees, of course), and don't ignore the excellent Thelma Houston "Sunshower"
album on "Dunghill" DS-50054 which includes "Everybody Gets To Go To The Moon"
and other great Webb tunes, e.g., Pocketful Of Keys).
Just about everything else these artists did is crap. All the good stuff was
by Webb.
Regarding lyrics, that's another matter. I don't get into that. "MacArthur
Park" has been widely panned by non-musicians but I believe ONLY because of
the lyrics. (I rarely listen to lyrics, and in fact have trained myself to
not hear lyrics.)
Another GREAT album is "Wings" by Michel Colombier A&M-SP3503 (reissue), full
of incredible musical ideas, orchestral writing and questionable lyrics/vocals
by Paul Williams and others. This is definitely one of my stranded-on-a-
desert-island selections.
Cheers
Chuck
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:48:31 +0000
From: Hugh Petfield <tribute@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: (exotica) Bell Record
Anyone know anything about a series of 45rpm single records from
the late 50's on the Bell Record label? They appear to be cheap
not particularly brilliant covers of hits e.g
Bell 133 Not one minute more - Lee Bennett c/w Running Bear - Mark Devon.
Record has a noticeably wide lead in, and a very thin centre section -
normally singles are thicker where the label is, these are only slightly
so.
They all have picture covers, with two-colour printing (e.g. red and blue)
and the covers are 7" wide and 8" tall: the extra half inch each end
is a stripe saying
45rpm 49 cents in Canada 59c (both titles here) 133
Each song has its own illustrated side of the sleeve.
One side of the sleeve says "Distributed by Pocket Books, Inc".
It's as if they were sold from a browser or box, so you could flip through
them quickly.
Were these sold by a particular store or chain of stores please? And was
this Bell Record label the precursor of the later Bell label?
Thanks, Hugh.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:09:27 -0500 (EST)
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) 5th Dimension
If you liked "Up, Up And Away", I think you will most likely like nearly
EVERYTHING they recorded...They did a number of Laura Nyro tunes and added a
nice pop flower-power sound to 'em. Also some later nice stuff like "Puppet
Man" and Bachrach's "One Less Bell To Answer". Check out track 4 on Pizzicato
5's "Happy End Of The World" CD..There's a strong 5th Dimension/Association
tribute sound in there..They also seem to be influenced by Sergio Mendes and
Brasil '66.......Jimmy
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:13:05 +0000 (HELP)
From: KEIRK@vax2.concordia.ca
Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter _'Round the World_
I just came across this LP for sale, at a terrible www vinyl site
with zero info. Does anyone have label/year/track listing for
this? Is it any good?
From BossaNovaVille,
Keir
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:28:08 -0500 (EST)
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Lounge Laura Sighting
It happened in Boston...Brother Cleve presented an evening of Swank on Wed,
Jan 21 at Bill's Bar where the invitees were treated to DJ tunes by Brother
Cleve, videos of Dino, Serge Gainsbourg, and people actually frugging to Iron
Butterfly (we think! <frugging as well as Iron>). Additionally there were 2
performances by "Astroslut"--Lounge Laura's band..Laura is known as Jane
Fondle and they played a nice assortment of 7T's Porno
Soundtrack/Blaxploitation-Influenced tunes and were outfitted with a Moog
Synth and some other vintage-looking stuff...Kudos to Cleve........Jimmy (oh
ya--I got to introduce the band)
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 98 14:53:29 PST
From: "B. Yost" <byost@abq.com>
Subject: (exotica) crackpot visionaries on LSD
Joe B. wrote:
>>Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God also put out a CD of
Criswell that I mentioned in a previous post. All their CDs are cheap,
filled to the brim (long) and have good sound quality. Their name comes
from some krackpot visionary.<<
A couple of weeks ago I bought a budget used copy of "Psychic TV Presents
Ultrahouse" on Wax Trax and one of the tracks on the disc is loaded with
samples of what can only be the crackpot "visionary" mentioned above. He
goes on and on about the "mad deadly worldwide communist gangster computer
god" like a true megalomaniac. I was wondering who it was, and now I know,
thanks to the exotica list.
- -- Brad Yost
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:21:29 -0500 (EST)
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Jimmy Webb
All the chatter on Jimmy Webb sent me into my CD library where I dug up "The
Best Of The Three Degrees" on Epic's Legacy Series...Included on that CD is
the official 1971 "live" smoky supper-club rendition of Webb's "Everybody
Gets To Go To The Moon" exactly as it was seen and heard in "The French
Connection" when Popeye Doyle made his inevitable call on the nightclub...The
best part of it is the exaggerated ooh's and yeah's that the Three Degrees
affect as they belt out a swingin' arrangement of this Webb tune...Its a
killer..cheeseball AND swingin'
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:34:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) crackpot visionaries on LSD (francis e. dec, esq.)
At 02:53 PM 1/22/98 PST, Brad Yost wrote:
>
>Joe B. wrote:
>>>Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God also put out a CD of
>Criswell that I mentioned in a previous post. Their name comes
>from some krackpot visionary.<<
>
>A couple of weeks ago I bought a budget used copy of "Psychic TV Presents
>Ultrahouse" on Wax Trax and one of the tracks on the disc is loaded with
>samples of what can only be the crackpot "visionary" mentioned above.
Critters Buggin' also sampled Doc's rendering of the Dec rants on their cut
"Bill Gates". You make the call...yep, too easy!!
- --Lou
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:09:01 -0600
From: clean@tamboo.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter _'Round the World_
you can see a cover scan and track listing for "'Round the World..." (and
many other Baxter LPs) on the Les Baxter portion of my site:
http://www.tamboo.com/BaxLP1.html . It was a Capitol release, but not one
of his "exotic" LPs. The discography is arranged cronologically (more or
less), so you can get an idea of when it came out. I'm not sure of the
exact date. Hope it helps.
- King Kini
>I just came across this LP for sale, at a terrible www vinyl site
>with zero info. Does anyone have label/year/track listing for
>this? Is it any good?
>
>>From BossaNovaVille,
>Keir
visit...
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T
http://www.tamboo.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:08:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) Jimmy Webb
At 12:44 PM 1/22/98 EST, ChuckT wrote:
>Jimmy Webb was (is?) a songwriter in the tradition of the great craftsmen of
>music. In a 60's-70's sort of way, he is the logical descendant of Berlin,
>VanHeusen, Richard Rodgers, Jerome Kern, with a grasp of melody, harmony,
>voice-leading, dynamics, and orchestration (assuming he did them all) that has
>rarely been approached, never mind equalled, especially in the 90's power-
>chord culture.
>Cheers
>Chuck
Here's a cute story from Mark Evans' 1975 book Soundtrack: The Music Of The
Movies:
At one studio, producers engaged Jim Webb, a successful songwriter, to score
a film. When musicians arrived for their first recording session, they found
miniature scores by Bach and other baroque composers waiting for them; Webb
had decided to use this music as part of "his" score. The studio then
refused to accept the score, declared Webb persona non grata, and hired a
replacement. The new composer refused to accept the job unless it was
completed in Europe. So the studio ended up paying a standby orchestra in
Hollywood (which didn't record at all) as well as the French orchestra that
ultimately recorded the new score.
- --Lou
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:15:39 EST
From: Dlsmay <Dlsmay@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb/Van Dyke Parks
How funny, I've been thinking about writing a piece on the Van
Dyke/Nilsson/Randy Newman troika at Warners/Reprise in the late 60s (prompted
by Gene Sculatti's excellent liner notes for Harper's Bizarre's Greatest Hits
collection). Van Dyke's song "High Coin" gets a sumptuous treatment by
Harper's. And my next project is to work on a Jimmy Webb piece, giving his
hits a once over (done in tandem with another writer covering Jimmy's coked
out solo albums of the early 70s). I know a lot of folks think the Richard
Harris version of "MacArthur Park" is the most abominable thing in pop history
(one reason alone to cherish it), but I think "Wichita Lineman" redeems
anything...
- --David
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:05:00 +0200
From: "Waldo Muller" <wmuller@dieburger.com>
Subject: (exotica) Psychic TV
B. Yost wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago I bought a budget used copy of "Psychic TV Presents
> Ultrahouse" on Wax Trax ...
No, no, no. Psychic TV is evil. Genesis P. Orridge is the Anti-Easy, the
Anti-Swing, the Anti-Exoticat. His name brings back horrific visions of my
late teens and my gloomy, self-imposed prison sentence of Swans, Diamanda
Galas, Current 93 and other gothic torture devices.
Waldo Guess-what-I-was-in-the-80's
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:29:21 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <hagar@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter _'Round the World_
>you can see a cover scan and track listing for "'Round the World..." (and
...may I just add that "Melodia Loca" is one of my favorite Les Baxter
songs (I have it on the flipside of Theme from "Foreign Intrigue")
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:33:36 +0100 (MET)
From: stefan@subliminal.se (Subliminal Sounds)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Psychic TV
Waldo Muller wrote:
>No, no, no. Psychic TV is evil. Genesis P. Orridge is the Anti-Easy, the
>Anti-Swing, the Anti-Exoticat. His name brings back horrific visions of my
>late teens and my gloomy, self-imposed prison sentence of Swans, Diamanda
>Galas, Current 93 and other gothic torture devices.
Now I'm not the right person to defend Psychic TV or Genesis P. Orridge but
his pre-Psychic TV band Throbbing Gristle was some of the first to pay
homage to Martin Denny in the 1980s with at least one LP sleeve and mentions
of him in interviews etc. So what ever, but to brand him Anti-Exoticat just
because of your bad childhood musical experiences is incorrect. I think
Throbbing Gristle got a lot of people interested in Exotica in the first place.
Stefan/Subliminal Sounds
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:28:05 +0200
From: "Waldo Muller" <wmuller@dieburger.com>
Subject: (exotica) Throbbing Denny
Stefan/Subliminal Sounds wrote:
> I think Throbbing Gristle got a lot of people interested in Exotica in
the first place.
As the Xhosa people say here in Africa: Aikona! ("Definately not!) No
really, I think the Martin Denny Throbbing Gristle connection would rather
put a majority of people off. I can really imagine many recent Denny
devotees NOT being so receptive for our man Martin if they had to now - in
the nineties - hear about the Throbbing Gristle connection. Something like:
"What?! Genesis P. Orridge was also into him? Then it must suck!"
EZ Waldo
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:53:12 -0600 (CST)
From: Kerry Keane <luddite@ripco.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb/Van Dyke Parks
On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Dlsmay wrote:
> Harper's. And my next project is to work on a Jimmy Webb piece, giving his
> hits a once over (done in tandem with another writer covering Jimmy's coked
> out solo albums of the early 70s).
Whoa....more details please.
_________________________________
Kerry L. Keane
http://www.ripco.com:8080/~luddite
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:31:03 +0100 (MET)
From: stefan@subliminal.se (Subliminal Sounds)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Throbbing Denny
Waldo Muller wrote:
>I can really imagine many recent Denny
>devotees NOT being so receptive for our man Martin if they had to now - in
>the nineties - hear about the Throbbing Gristle connection. Something like:
>"What?! Genesis P. Orridge was also into him? Then it must suck!"
I dont care about your personal crusade against Mr. Porridge. I'm just
stating facts as I know them and I know a lot of people in Sweden who got
into Exotica through the Throbbing Gristle connection.
Stefan/Subliminal Sounds
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:31:56 -0500
From: "m.ace" <ecam@voicenet.com>
Subject: (exotica) Space Ghost
I haven't seen it mentioned here yet, so...
Rhino has just released a Space Ghost cd on their Kid Rhino imprint.
It's called "Space Ghost's Musical Bar-B-Que". I haven't heard it myself, but
friends say it's pretty wacky. Maybe a good new example of the (sadly) almost
extinct novelty record genre?
m.ace ecam@voicenet.com
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:31:20 -0500
From: "m.ace" <ecam@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Throbbing Denny
Considering this thread got started with crackpot theories, I may as well throw
in my own crackpot theory at this point.
That being... industrial and gothic are simply cranky descendants of classic
exotica. Of course they bear almost no surface resemblance, but how many kids
do you know who are exactly like their great-grandparents? Time jumbles the
elements, and the genres emerged in totally different musical/social
environments. But they do share the escapist impulse and an interest in
atmosphere, color and texture (totally different choices in such, indeed).
Now before anyone gets het up, relax. I'm not suggesting goth & industrial
should be regular exotica list elements. I am suggesting that despite its
"buried" nature, exotica has been a lot more influential than many would
imagine -- and not just the last few years, either.
m.ace ecam@voicenet.com
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:42:55 -0500
From: "allanc" <allanc@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Psychic TV
Waldo wrote:
>
> No, no, no. Psychic TV is evil. Genesis P. Orridge is the Anti-Easy, the
> Anti-Swing, the Anti-Exoticat. His name brings back horrific visions of
my
> late teens and my gloomy, self-imposed prison sentence of Swans, Diamanda
> Galas, Current 93 and other gothic torture devices.
LOL. I am so relieved to know that I was not alone in my doom & gloom!
Speaking of the anti-easy/etc, another bad-vibes source that led me on to
Exotica would be Boyd Rice whose "Music, Martinis & Misanthropy" is the
very height of cruel fun. And by the way (correct me if I'm wrong), but
didn't "Tipsy" began as a splinter of the group "Rhythm & Noise"? It is a
bit odd to realize that the whole lounge/exotica revival began because of
Re/Search's "Industrial Culture Handbook".
Aloha,
Allan.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:12:11 -0600
From: Chris Strouth <prospect@tt.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Throbbing Denny
>I can really imagine many recent Denny
>devotees NOT being so receptive for our man Martin if they had to now - in
>the nineties - hear about the Throbbing Gristle connection. Something like:
>"What?! Genesis P. Orridge was also into him? Then it must suck!"
Actually I got reintroduced to Exotica just throughout that industrial
connection, I grew up hearing it (mom was an easy jazz radio DJ in the
60's) but it wasn't until the Psychic TV interview in the industrial
culture handbook that ReSearch put out, when i started to listen to it for
real and research it out more. The fact that the ultimate in DE
constructionists TG were into it, but also so were techno smarty pants
Yellow Magic Orchestra . That i figured there must really be something
there.
And no I am not suggesting regular darkside commentary but it definitely
had an effect on the music(although a relatively subliminal one) and even
though my tastes have broadened over the years, I still will put on
Throbbing Gristles greatest hits, or the divine "Jack The Tab" record by
Psychic TV . It's some truly deviant pop music.
Chris
(who hasn't posted for over eight months!)
E N D O F T R A N S M I S S O N...
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:14:46 -0500
From: Will Straw <cxws@musica.mcgill.ca>
Subject: (exotica) Throbbing Denny
As someone who has Genesis P. Orridge in his closet, too,
I can't stay out of this one.
On first glance, of course, industrial and gothic are the anti-lounge.
Like most bad art, they take shape around the idea that audiences
must work to listen to them, and that this is somehow character-building
or will produce positive political effects (i.e., once the shock recedes,
we'll be full of insights about the human condition.) The liner notes to
"The
Industrial Story" talk about how industrial music will counter the
mainstream
record industry's "deliberately diluted and safe visions of a comfortable,
distracting, glamorous culture".
I'll take the deliberately diluted versions of musique concrete that turn
up in
sf film soundtracks and the distracting and glamorous any day of the week .
Nevertheless, there was a turn, in Psychic TV, into a moody psychedelia that
I liked just fine until it had to answer for being one of the influences
that spawned
so much bad ambient music over the last decade.
Will
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Will Straw
Associate Professor
Graduate Program in Communications
McGill University
3465 rue Peel,
Montreal, Quebec
H3A 1W7
email: cxws@musica.mcgill.ca
Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934
http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/
Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and
Institutions
http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:28:50 -0500 (EST)
From: buMp <pje@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: Re: (exotica) throbbing denny
for what it is worth i will have to second this emotion...
as well as allan's. mentioning the Boyd Rice and Tipsy connection was going
to be my two cents worth and also the x-throbbing gristle duo Chris and
Cosey.
they even entitled an ep called Exotika with a cover sporting 60's women
lounging in the surf by an unknown photographer. i come from the industrial
gothic age as well and still have fond memories of it, especially Skinny
Puppy.
as far as Genesis P. being EVIL. i say lets get out of the witch burning
mentality that pervades this country and start exorcising your own demons.
try to look and listen to things differently and not take it so
personally.i was definitely one of the gloomiest people walking around in
the 80's and if it was not for this music i would probably be in the AIR
FORCE right now! thank god for the gothic/industrial movement.
i think Genesis is a pretty funny guy if you listen to the lyrics.
some of Throbbing Gristle music is very exotic, if not the first electronica.
i believe it is their Greatest Hits album that is dedicated to Martin Denny.
along with Chris and Cosey and Coil,they will always have a revered place
in my collection.
sorry i just had to speak up .....bump
>Waldo Muller wrote:
>>No, no, no. Psychic TV is evil. Genesis P. Orridge is the Anti-Easy, the
>>Anti-Swing, the Anti-Exoticat. His name brings back horrific visions of my
>>late teens and my gloomy, self-imposed prison sentence of Swans, Diamanda
>>Galas, Current 93 and other gothic torture devices.
>
>Now I'm not the right person to defend Psychic TV or Genesis P. Orridge but
>his pre-Psychic TV band Throbbing Gristle was some of the first to pay
>homage to Martin Denny in the 1980s with at least one LP sleeve and mentions
>of him in interviews etc. So what ever, but to brand him Anti-Exoticat just
>because of your bad childhood musical experiences is incorrect. I think
>Throbbing Gristle got a lot of people interested in Exotica in the first
>place.
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BuMp
Defective Records
pje@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu
http://www.welch.jhu.edu/~geh/defective.html
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:41:11 -0500 (EST)
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) easy-jazz radio
A digest member's mother was described as an easy-jazz radio dj in the
6T's...Out of curiousity, what was easy-jazz in the 6T's in terms of artists
and songs??
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:14:15 -0500
From: "Br. Cleve" <bcleve@pop.tiac.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Throbbing Denny
>I dont care about your personal crusade against Mr. Porridge. I'm just
>stating facts as I know them and I know a lot of people in Sweden who got
>into Exotica through the Throbbing Gristle connection.
Stefan is absolutely correct here. While the connection musically between
TG and Denny is tenuous at best, P.Orridge was an early champion of Denny :
the graphics to Throbbing Gristle's "Greatest Hits" was a take on Denny's
"Exotica" album, featuring TG member Cosey Fanny Tutti in the guise of
"Exotica Girl" Sandy Warner on the front cover. The album is dedicated to
Martin Denny.
I personally know a number of folks who had never heard of Denny but began
searching out his records due to this reference. Many of these same people
became hooked on exotica as a result. The correlation between exotica/space
age b-pad and industrial, psychedelica, electronica, etc is that they are
all left field, non-mainstream, predominantly instrumental styles of music
that capture and evoke certain moods, and are often enhanced by a variety
mind altering stimuli by many of it's fans and preponents (although not
necessary to the simple enjoyment of it).
br cleve
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:42:08 -0600
From: Chris Strouth <prospect@tt.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) throbbing denny
>for what it is worth i will have to second this emotion...
>as well as allan's. mentioning the Boyd Rice and Tipsy connection was going
>to be my two cents worth and also the x-throbbing gristle duo Chris and
>Cosey.
>they even entitled an ep called Exotika with a cover sporting 60's women
>lounging in the surf by an unknown photographer.
Corect me if I am wrong, but i think that record was put together in full
or at least in part by now transplanted list member Jill Mingo!
Chris (wow 2 posts in one day, yikes!)
E N D O F T R A N S M I S S O N...
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 01:46:40 +0100
From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Chester W. Nimitz)
Subject: Re: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb/Van Dyke Parks
>How funny, I've been thinking about writing a piece on the Van
>Dyke/Nilsson/Randy Newman troika at Warners/Reprise in the late 60s (prompted
>by Gene Sculatti's excellent liner notes for Harper's Bizarre's Greatest Hits
>collection). Van Dyke's song "High Coin" gets a sumptuous treatment by
>Harper's.
I listened to this in the recordstore today, I hadn't heard Harper's
Bizarre before but they were fantastic! Actually it has *two* Van Dyke
songs, another one called something like Come In The Sunshine (or something
like that). Brilliant album, but for some reason I didn't end up buying
it... Instead I picked up Bacharach's Lost Horizon soundtrack LP (that
sleeve is like a piece of art!) and Dick Hyman's "Moog:The Electric
Eclectic Sounds Of..." plus those Bristol lo-fi noise/drone-makers Flying
Saucer Attack's "Outdoor Miner EP", all three records are really good.
Chester W. Nimitz
"Up up and away in my beautiful,
My beautiful balloon"
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:47:12 -0800
From: Jack <Jack@JackDiamond.com>
Subject: (exotica) Dr. Samuel J. Hoffman
Here you go; http://www.137.com/hoffman/
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:25:01 +-200
From: Shangri-la <shangrila@new.co.za>
Subject: RE: (exotica) The 5th Dimension/Jimmy Webb
>has Webb or any related artist (Glen Campbell?) released any
>records with really orchestrated songs, y'know with lots of strings or
>brass or whatever, bigger productions, simply??
Well, firstly to those that might have missed me, HI I'm back!
I recently bought an OC Smith record (Help me make it through the =
night). It is beautifully orchestrated: strings, brass, funky early =
seventies beats, and some wordless(at times) female vocals. I found =
myself playing this more than I expected at first listen. This rarely =
happens, because I work in a CD shop and I usually saturate very quickly =
If I play something too often.=20
He also covers Bobby Goldsborough's "Watching Scotty grow" very well. =
Does anyone know more about him?
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:41:48 +-200
From: Shangri-la <shangrila@new.co.za>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Throbbing Denny
I must say I like White Nights by Psychic TV (an old favourite) and =
their house music is still quite listenable. Jack the Tab really changed =
my view on house when I first heard it and the two Infinite Beat CD's =
must be some of the house I played most at the time, not to mention =
Ultrahouse. When digging up old music I find however that Pop seems to =
mature better. F.e. I'd rather listen to the Cure than The Orb if that =
old feeling comes along. Maybe it relates better to the pop structure of =
my retro music, not to mention the unintensity. I mean Esquivel might =
have powerful brass bursts, but at least the same burst does not repeat =
itself for 10 minutes. Now, I hope this didn't fire up the old you know =
what debate....
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:58:08 -0500 (EST)
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) OC Smiff
OC Smith--Born Ocie Lee Smith on 6/21/36 in Mansfield, Louisiana.To L.A. in
1939. Sang in the Air Force 1953-57. First recorded for Cadence in 1956. With
Count Basie 1961-63....Biggest three hits were : "The Son Of Hickory Holler's
Tramp"('68), "Little Green Apples"('68) and "Daddy's Little Man" ('69)...He
hit the r&b charts with a total of 17 hits between 1968 and 1987. Best known
on the pre-5-Letter Disco dance floors for 1974's neighbor-waker "La-La-La-La
Peace Song".....Jimmy
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:02:26 EST
From: Jbtwist <Jbtwist@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Psychic TV's
I saw that new show last night at 3:00 AM, where transvestites RuPaul, Charles
Pierce, Lypsinka, Sylvester, the Cockettes/Angels of Light, Jim Bailey, Milton
Berle, Geraldine and J. Edgar Hoover teamed up to give Dionne Warwicke a run
for her money in the TV Psychic prognistication biz........with Marv Albert as
announcer, natch.......
JB
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:45:15 -0800
From: Jack <Jack@JackDiamond.com>
Subject: (exotica) NEW Jean Jacques Perrey
Hello all!
I'm here to announce that Jean Jacques Perrey has been working hard in the
studios of France and the result is a new record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's right kids! A New Record and New Recordings from the great Jean
Jacques Perrey!!!
It was done with the extreme help of a young man by the name of David
Chazam who I received an e-mail from, who is staying with a good friend of
his in San Francisco.
David lives in/is from France.
Not available yet in any store or anywhere for that matter, the 2 copies I
have are promos only, with just a plain white cover.
It is ab-so-lute-ly brilliant shit just like the old days:) Yeeeeeeeee
Haaaaaaaaaaa!
Titles; What's Up Duck ?, Analog Dialog, Doc Tequil, Clones War, An
Elephant On The Roof, Cyberbugs Time Machine, Neutronia.
The LP is called E C L E C T R O N I C S
Awesome-ness abounds
Next week on 89.7FM, KFJC is Hog Wild/Free Form week and I will be playing
the entire record as well as interviewing Mr. Chazam on my show around the
11AM hour, so tune in or lose out!
Http://www.KFJC.org Sorry, no MACS
Most sincerely,
Jack Diamond
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