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Subject: exotica Digest V2 #12
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exotica Digest Wednesday, 10 July 1996 Volume 02 : Number 012
In this issue:
Re: The Next Collecting Trend
Re: Young Savage FL Update
Re: The Next Collecting Trend
Re: The Next Collecting Trend
Re: HONEYMOON POLL
Hello from Georgia
Re: The Next Collecting Trend
Those ole' wigged wonders
Re: The Next Collecting Trend
Re: Hello from Georgia
Re: Oahu--Hawaii/Lyman
Re: The Next Big Thing
Re: The Next Collecting Trend
Re: Young Savage FL Update
Re: Flight FINAL
The Next, Next , Next Big Thing
Re: The Next Big Thing
Re: The Next Collecting Trend
Re: Those ole' wigged wonders
Re: Hello from Georgia
Re: The Next, Next , Next Big Thing
Re: Peter Thomas (The New Astronautic Sound)
error with Zounds zamples @ DADA'QUARIUMS
Re: The Next Big Thing
Byron Werner
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From: Ken Brogdon <kbrogdon@services.state.mo.us>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:40:35 -0500
Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend
At 11:47 PM 7/9/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>
>>Will the folk boom be the next one?
>>
>>Craig
>
Nope. It will be bluegrass. kb
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From: "Dave Lamont" <lamont@psd.state.vt.us>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:52:17 EDT
Subject: Re: Young Savage FL Update
Laura - sign me up for the mailing list. Also, how do I get on the
Bomp! list??
Thanks
DL
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From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 10:10:04 EDT
Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend
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At 11:47 PM 7/9/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>
>>Will the folk boom be the next one?
>>
>>Craig
>
>>>>>>>>>Nope. It will be bluegrass. kb
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You're all wrong. It's going to be POLKA!!!
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From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:07:20 -0800
Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend
>>>Will the folk boom be the next one?
>>>
>>>Craig
>>
>>>>>>>>>>Nope. It will be bluegrass. kb
>
>
>
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>
>
>You're all wrong. It's going to be POLKA!!!
I have to agree on this POLKA I've recently been obssessed with POLKA. You
don't realize it until you suddenly crave it and need it. (no I don't have
a problem) For any of you that want to give it ago, may I suggest two of
my favorite guys, Myron Floren and of course Frankie Yankovic. Also going
along the theme of Polka I think the accordian is going to have a huge
comeback.
Marie
------------------------------
From: Jonathan Brainin <jbrainin@ritz.mordor.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:09:19 -0700
Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL
lee@anti.com wrote:
>
> OK, so I'm getting married in October and we still haven't decided
> where to spend our honeymoon, though we've narrowed it down to two
> choices:
>
> Tahiti
>
> or
>
> Get in the car and drive through small towns, maybe in the midwest,
> and go to every thrift store we can find.
>
> What would you choose??????
>
>
> Lee
That's a real no brainer: go to Tahiti. You can always tour the Midwest.
Jonathan
------------------------------
From: Jon <greaser@ixl.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:12:56 -0400
Subject: Hello from Georgia
Greetings to all you cool cats and kittens out there. I'm new to the
list, and excited about being on it. My name is Jon and I am living and
working in Atlanta. I just graduated from the University of Georgia in
June and during all of my four years there I worked at WUOG, 90.5fm, the
UGA station. For two of those years I was Music Director there. This
last year there I went back to just Dj'ing and my main shift was doing a
show called "Who Put The Bomp?". It is a show that focuses on music
from the 50's and 60's. Until I got a hold of it, mainly you would hear
old garage, surf, rockalbilly, and R&B. It was wonderful then, but I
put my own twist on the show once I took over. I made the show
era-specific, instead of genre-specific. Pretty much anything from the
50's and 60's that was crazy and fun and weird I would play. I played
German beer-drinking songs, square dances with calls, groovy jazz,
roller-skating organ music, and then of course plenty of cool-lounge.
One of my very favorite songs and as a matter of fact the very last one
I ever played on the show is "Comin' Home Baby" by Mel Torme. Who out
there has heard it? I also love Esquivel of course, Perez Prado, Henri
Rene, the Three Suns, Henry Mancini. Oh, the list could just keep on
going. I must leave now, because I am at work, but if there is anyone
out there who knows any cool tips on places to go or see here in
Atlanta,let me know, because I have been out of the loop for awhile.
Bye-Bye, JON
------------------------------
From: Laurie Chase <psu07922@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend
>
> Personally, my feeling has been for some time that the next collector's
> revival will be with old hillbilly/country & western records.
> --Jon Johnson
> erik@top.monad.net
>
You are definately on to something, Jon. I collect 78 rpm records, and
the big items are now hillbilly/C&W. The songs are fingersnapping and
funny, and downright melodic. Of course, I am not talking about the new
C&W crap you hear on commercial radio, I am talking about Hank Williams Sr.,
Marty Robbins, Rose Maddox & the Maddox Brothers, Little Jimmy Dickens,
T. Texas Tyler, Jimmy Rogers, Buck Owens, Tennesee Ernie Ford, even Les
Paul and Mary Ford (who have a great Hawaiian album called LOVER'S LUAU,
too).
If you can find these old 78's at garage sales or thrift stores, they
very well may be worth $ on the next big trend.
Laurie Chase
Portland, OR
------------------------------
From: ajackson@yorku.ca (Anthony Jackson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:50:43 -0500
Subject: Those ole' wigged wonders
Has anyone out there heard of the music of one Charles Trenet? I've just
picked up a tribute to his songs by the Guy Luypaert and his Orchestra.
It's that light and occasionally oh so flip sort of classical exotica of
the type made famous by the infamous100 Strings.
It certainly is a sub-genre of sorts, but when done well it does have its
charms. Can anyone recommend any more of this cheesy take on the classical
tradition?
Aj
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From: "Derek Grime" <derek@vampira.coredp.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:11:09 -0400
Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend
On Jul 10, 10:10am, Patrick Cashin wrote:
> You're all wrong. It's going to be POLKA!!!
My money is on scary country and western!
- --
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Derek Grime EMail: derek@coredp.com
C.O.R.E. Digital Pictures http://www.coredp.com/index.html
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From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:19:02 -0800
Subject: Re: Hello from Georgia
Hi Jon,
>I ever played on the show is "Comin' Home Baby" by Mel Torme. Who out
>there has heard it?
Yes that's a great tune. I play it frequently on my show (KCSB 91.9 fm,
Santa Barbara, CA)
I also love Esquivel of course, Perez Prado, Henri
>Rene, the Three Suns, Henry Mancini. Definately great stuff. If you are
>new on the list there has been recent praise of SHOT IN THE DARK a new
>compilation of present day artists doing Mancini tunes. Also of course
>the capitol series ULTRA LOUNGE is great. 9 cd's are out now (12 total),
>they are fab.
Marie
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From: Ottotemp@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:22:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Oahu--Hawaii/Lyman
Lyman plays Friday afternoons at bout one at the New Otani Kaimana Beach
Hotel
If you see him tell him Otto from Los Angeles says hi
------------------------------
From: ajackson@yorku.ca (Anthony Jackson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:51:52 -0500
Subject: Re: The Next Big Thing
>Will the folk boom be the next one?
>
>Craig
Predictions of folk revivals are so frequent that I once heard a two-hour
radio show that highlighted the trend that never materialized at verious
times over the years. They played cuts by all those folkies that were
supposed to be harbingers of more to come (eg Suzanne Vega, Tracy Chapman,
etc...) but turned out to be one-off success stories.
I have nothing against folk music and have a sizable collection of
standards, but I doubt the success it achieved in the sixties will be
recreated anytime soon. Like so many other kinds of music, exotica
included, folk has become one niche among many thriving in an industry
that is becoming increasingly fractured by diversifying consumer tastes.
It is fun to speculate on what the next big thing will be, and it is
especially rewarding when a favourite artist or style is "discovered" by
the general public. But I find that so much emphasis is being placed on
"catching the wave" that the hype and self-justification have become more
important than the the music itself.
My own pet theory is that all of this retro-sis, the fascination for the
styles of music and fashion popular in the past, is indicative of a fin de
siecle malaise that will not dissipate until everyone wakes up on Jan. 2,
2000 and realizes that it's just another year. What I'm looking forward to
is the day when the creativity that is currently so stifled by a
preoccupation with the past will again step into the unknown and reinvent
th notion of what music is, not in the meta-rational fashion of a John Cage
but in a spiritual/ tribal fashion that typifies a lot of ethnic music.
Aj
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From: prospect@tt.net (Chris Strouth)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:59:37 -0500
Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend
The next big trend is going to be Psyche records (like the United States
of America, and silly spoken word stuff like Flight F I N A L) and trash
from the 70's (truckstop records, and disco) , they not popular in the
mass, people who were into it at the time try to deny they once held it
dear, and a lot of the stuff is really great. It is esantily hillbilly
revival music , CW Mcoy , Hasil Adkins cut from the same cloth. plus it is
really plentiful
I guess it follows the logic that if you want to know what the next big
trend in hipster clothing is look at what the homeless are wearing, six
months later it will be all the rage
- -Chris
END OF TRANSMISSION...
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From: "Laura Taylor" <laura@wusf.usf.edu>
Date: 10 Jul 1996 13:25:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Young Savage FL Update
RE>>Young Savage FL Update 7/10/96
HEY YOU! you didn't leave a name, address or anything...so, snap to it!
laura@wusf.usf.edu
- --------------------------------------
Date: 7/10/96 10:14 AM
To: Laura Taylor
From: exotica@xmission.com
Laura - sign me up for the mailing list. Also, how do I get on the
Bomp! list??
Thanks
DL
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From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 13:59:23 EDT
Subject: Re: Flight FINAL
Chris Strouth wrote about:
>>>> and silly spoken word stuff like Flight F I N A L
I HAD this record and some loser stole it from me!
My friends and I took the whole A-side of the record and sampled it
over the Velvet Underground's "I Think I'm Falling In Love" run
backward at half speed over and over.
It would send the unrepentant screaming out into the night.
Most powerful thing this side of Rev. Jack Van Impe!
------------------------------
From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:18:23 -0400
Subject: The Next, Next , Next Big Thing
What I really want to know is what part of our musical landscape NOW will be
rediscovered in CD form by our those people who are now infants. What do you
think?
------------------------------
From: Craig Norton <craig@unbc.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:23:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: The Next Big Thing
Interesting responses to my suggestion of folk as the "next big thing" in
collecting.
The suggestion of early country & western is intriguing, especially in
light of the massive popularity of that form during the past 5 years or
so. There have always been cross over artists, like Patsy, Glen
Campbell, Charlie Rich, Kenny Rogers. It seems much larger now than
ever before. But I doubt that todays C&W fans have interest in past recordings.
To tie in to exotica now. I find that the steel guitar in a lot of old
country is not very far removed from exotica. In fact, music that I have
heard by Bryant and West sounds as fresh today as Esquivel. Les Paul
certainly crossed all boundaries (I have the Lover's Luau LP too!).
I am not sure how relevant the year 2000 is to all of this, but as long as
there are boomers, there will be nostalgia trends. As vinyl becomes more
scarce, so too may vinyl collecting. During the past 2 years, I have
noticed a marked decrease in quality vinyl at garage sales, etc.
Lots of metal and dance CD's though, very cheap but highly unlistenable.
Craig
------------------------------
From: gene@cadmus.com (Gene Hopstetter, Jr.)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:42:24 -0400
Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend
Chris Strouth sed,
>The next big trend is going to be Psyche records (like the United States
>of America...
...and Culpepper's Orchard and White Noise and Comus and Fifty Foot Hose...
my point is, collecting psyche has been popular for quite a while. Heck,
I myself have been doing it since 1986. Sorry, but I don't think psyche
collecting's gonna get any bigger. Too bad, though, because the major
labels got tons of acetate I'd love to see reissued by them, and not by
tiny reissue labels, who charge $20 to $40 a pop, but hey, if you want it,
you pay for it, no?
But maybe there's no parallel here between exotica and psyche. Recordings
by artists like Martin Denny, although they catered to
less-than-very-popular tastes, were still relatively easy to acquire,
right? as compared to, f'rinstance, a copy of an album by a German
underground psyche outfit, like Nekronomicon's "Tips Zum Selbstmort" of
which only 500 were made and currently fetch $1,000 per copy? I mean, hey,
I'm not tripping over Brainticket albums like I am "Whipped Cream and Other
Delights" at flea markets.
>trash from the 70's (truckstop records, and disco)
Yup. I wouldn't give up my copy of Morton Downey, Jr.'s "I Love America"
and my Lenny and the Squigtones album for nothing.
"Pornography teaches us what to forget." -- Bruce Adams
+++++++++++++++++ Internet Publishing Specialist
+ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + Cadmus Digital Solutions
+++++++++++++++++ http://cjs.cadmus.com
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From: sax therapy <saxmania@ripco.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:45:30 -0600
Subject: Re: Those ole' wigged wonders
Anthony Jackson wrote:
>
> Has anyone out there heard of the music of one Charles Trenet? I've just
> picked up a tribute to his songs by the Guy Luypaert and his Orchestra.
> It's that light and occasionally oh so flip sort of classical exotica
I must admit I have a 10" LP on French Pathe by Trenet. It has a nice
cover drawing by Jean Cocteau on the cover and that's the main
reason I picked up in the first place. Now that you mention it I
think I'll give it a listen. BTW does anyone know of any more cover
art by Cocteau?
- -Saul
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From: "Steve Sando" <coconutg@wco.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:57:56 +0000
Subject: Re: Hello from Georgia
> >I ever played on the show is "Comin' Home Baby" by Mel Torme. Who
> >out there has heard it?
> Yes that's a great tune. I play it frequently on my show (KCSB 91.9
> fm, Santa Barbara, CA)
Don't forget the swell version by Cy Coleman. That was the theme to
my show, Mister Lucky.
Coconut Grove, publishers of MisterLUCKY
PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107
http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/
"Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward
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From: lee@anti.com
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 12:03:59 PST
Subject: Re: The Next, Next , Next Big Thing
Worst case scenerio...
They'll wonder what the hell these things are in a plastic box with
photos and text, plus a funny little silver thing...cause 20 years
from now those CDs will have oxidized and won't contain any music!
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Subject: The Next, Next , Next Big Thing
Author: exotica@xmission.com at INTERNET
Date: 7/10/96 12:02 PM
What I really want to know is what part of our musical landscape NOW will be
rediscovered in CD form by our those people who are now infants. What do you
think?
------------------------------
From: ping1241@ping.be
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:31:47 +0100
Subject: Re: Peter Thomas (The New Astronautic Sound)
eric <kling@cinenet.net> wrote:
>there are only two vinal peter thomas you can get in the usa, one is
>chariots of the gods (great)
can you give us the label info?
thanx!
johan dada
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From: dada@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:30:33 +0100
Subject: error with Zounds zamples @ DADA'QUARIUMS
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I humbly appologize for this inconvenience. Everything should work right now.
Please visit again.
Greetings from Johan |)/\|)/\
dada@ping.be home: Wivina 15, 1702, Belgium
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From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:08:15 -0400
Subject: Re: The Next Big Thing
At 11:23 AM 7/10/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Interesting responses to my suggestion of folk as the "next big thing" in
>collecting.
>
>The suggestion of early country & western is intriguing, especially in
>light of the massive popularity of that form during the past 5 years or
>so. There have always been cross over artists, like Patsy, Glen
>Campbell, Charlie Rich, Kenny Rogers. It seems much larger now than
>ever before. But I doubt that todays C&W fans have interest in past
recordings.
Speaking of c/w, I just saw Chet Atkins album "Chet Atkins in Hollywood"
(RCA LSP-1993) released on vinyl by Classic Music Direct. According to
Classic the following discription applies:
"An audiophile mainstay, transferred from recently discovered 2-track
session tapes. A rare venture by Atkins outside of his home base of
Nashville to RCA's famed Music Center of the World studios in Hollywood. He
faces conductor Robert Farnon and Orchestra or, as Chet calls them, 'a field
of fiddlers'. A very 'live in the studio' Living Stereo recording from 1959".
Anybody have any take on this one?
Thanks,
Bryan
------------------------------
From: Irwin Chusid <irwin@wfmu.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:51:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Byron Werner
Br. Cleve speaks the truth. It was Byron Werner who first introduced me to
the recordings of Raymond Scott and Esquivel. As I've told every
interviewer in the past 4 years who's asked how I discovered these
forgotten geniuses (and Space Age Bach Pad music in general): Byron is
Ground Zero for these revivals.
And, yes, Barrence Whitfield gave me a cassette of Scott 78s at almost
exactly the same time as Byron.
What I really wish someone would do is champion a Barrence Whitfield
movement. Why this guy isn't better known in the US for his spectacular
R&B is a mystery. Hell of a performer--which seems to be better recognized
in Europe than in the US. Some enterprising label should sign the guy to
a lifetime contract.
/irwin chusid
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