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From: Kevin William Greenlee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...
Date: 01 Aug 1998 01:11:09 -0500 (EST)


If I may respectfully say so, it seems to me that perhaps your problem
with thrift store shopping has more to do with your own attitudes and
biases than anything else. By your own account, you were uncomfortable and
ill at ease before you even went in- if other people were staring at you
perhaps it was because they picked up on this sense of unease, this sense
you had that you were in some way slumming. And then you say the store was
"surprisingly" clean. Why was this so surprising? I'm sorry- it just seems
to me that you went into the store with the wrong attitude- you expected a
poor experiance and then- shockingly enough- you actually had one. I
encourage you to have a more open mind and perhaps try thrifting again.
I too shop at used book and record stores. And I can report that I have
often bumped into book and record dealers at thrift stores, picking up
items which they then re-sell for much higher prices in their stores. IN
fact, in Indianapolis, there is a yuppie- oriented, high priced antique
mall a block or two away from a large thrift store. I suppose I am one of
the few people who is a regular patron of both establishments. But,
anyway, the owner of the mall has admitted to me that he regularly picks
up stuff at the thrift store for next to nothing and then resells them at
inflationary prices to dopes who would never think to check out thrift
stores.So again, pretty much all I can say is I really encourgae you to
give thrifting another chance.

Kevin Greenlee



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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...
Date: 31 Jul 1998 23:48:47 -0700


At 01:11 AM 8/1/98 -0500, Kevin wrote:

> And I can report that I have
>often bumped into book and record dealers at thrift stores, picking up
>items which they then re-sell for much higher prices in their stores.

Me too.  I saw the local record-shop guy at the thrifts, and since I
occasionally browse in his store and our kids are in the same grade and
school, went over to say hello.  I made a mental note of the albums he was
obviously going to buy (for 50 cents), and went to his store the next day.
Sure enough, in his "just in" bin, there they were - priced between $5 and
$20.

I much prefer mingling with the down-and-outs at thrifts than being
suckered into paying more at a trendy shop, simply because the clientele
have better incomes!

Dave


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Popp&Basta&Scott
Date: 01 Aug 1998 02:31:33 -0400


Hello Jeroen

At 11:04 AM +0200 7/28/98, Basta Audio Visuals wrote:

>I hope you can help me. I am from Basta Audio Visuals from Holland. My
>company issues for example Soothing Sounds for Baby by Raymond Scott and
>Delirium in Hifi by Andr=E9 Popp.

Yes, I own many titles from your label. I am a friend of Gert-Jan Blom,
Piet Schreuders and Irwin Chusid.

>regarding new and re-issues of Raymond Scott, Andr=E9 Popp and Les Baxter

> I am familiar with World Wide Web and email, but not with
>newsgroups and that kind of things. Could you help me out ? Is there a plac=
e
>on the internet where you can ask questions to a lot of people in one time =
?

You should definitely try the Exotica list. Messages can be sent to -
[e-mail]

There are around 400 people on that list, including folks from Sweden,
Germany, South Africa, Japan, Canada, England, Holland and the U.S.

>I am planning on releasing the three Soothing Sounds albums on vinyl, but I
>have no idea how many people would be interested. I would really appreciate
>it if you would help me.

I would think that a vinyl release of SSFB would be most appreciated by
DJ's, as there is certainly much that could be used in a dance/chill out
type of setting. I think a small run (like around 1000 pieces) would be
sufficient for the albums.

=46eel free to contact me with any other questions. I should be in Amsterdam
with my band, Combustible Edison, later this year.

br cleve




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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tikifest '98, San Francisco
Date: 01 Aug 1998 03:49:58 EDT


Tikifest '98, San Francisco
Friday, August 14
9:00 pm sharp
Liftoff Productions presents the fabulous return of the last summer's
biggest
Polynesian-style Dance Party
Live from Los Angeles it's the surf beat of
The Tiki Tones plus
San Francisco's own
The Aquamen
also
mysterious solo vibraphonics from Fisherman and
authentic sounds of The Kilohana Royal Hawaiian Band
also don't miss
Otto and Baby Doe's Tiki News shopping shack (selling gig posters by Frank
Kozik and more) plus Tiki King's Tiki Trading Hut
all this and Ten foot tall Tikis, a Tiki Mug giveaway, and the best
damn Polynesian Drinks in town.
One night only!
Only $7.00
Club Cocodrie
1024  Kearny
betw Broadway & Columbus
San Francisco
986-6678


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new Tiki bar, SF
Date: 01 Aug 1998 03:51:39 EDT


The grand opening of a new Tiki bar will take place this Wednesday, August 5,
from 7 pm to 12 midnight

Complimentary Puu Puus, free plastic monkeys with every drink, menu of
Polynesian drinks (not complimentary)

Music dj'ed by Otto von Stroheim begins at 8 pm

To get in free tell the doorman you are on "Dj Otto's guest list"

The Bamboo Hut is at 473 Broadway near Kearny in North Beach (San Francisco)
It is part of, or next door to, the HiBall Lounge.

It is cool. Drinks are served in Tiki mugs. Lighted blowfish hang over the
booths. One wall is a faux lavarock waterfall topped with the coup de gras - a
vintage wooden Tiki head relic from the former grand Polynesian palace The
Coral Reef, Sacramento. This head dates back to the inception of that
restaurant (circa late 40s) and is said to have been atop the roof of The
Coral Reef.


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tikifest '98, San Francisco
Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:34:07 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

> Tikifest '98, San Francisco
> Friday, August 14
> 9:00 pm sharp
> Liftoff Productions presents the fabulous return of the last summer's
> biggest
> Polynesian-style Dance Party
> Live from Los Angeles it's the surf beat of
> The Tiki Tones plus
> San Francisco's own
> The Aquamen
> also
> mysterious solo vibraphonics from Fisherman and
> authentic sounds of The Kilohana Royal Hawaiian Band
> also don't miss
> Otto and Baby Doe's Tiki News shopping shack (selling gig posters by Frank
> Kozik and more) plus Tiki King's Tiki Trading Hut
> all this and Ten foot tall Tikis, a Tiki Mug giveaway, and the best
> damn Polynesian Drinks in town.
> One night only!
> Only $7.00
> Club Cocodrie
> 1024  Kearny
> betw Broadway & Columbus
> San Francisco
> 986-6678

Come on, Otto! Don't you know that for someone who's 5000 miles away from SF
an ad like that is MENTAL TORTURE?
MO*



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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...
Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:36:21 +0000


It looks like thrift shops are amazingly different. I went to stores all
over America, big cities and little hole-and-corner-towns (I've got that
expression from the dictionary) as well. There were times when more than
half of my wardrobe consisted of thrift shop finds. I used to be proud
that everything on my body costed less than 10$ all together. I just
sold two Hawaiian shirts I bought in  a salvation shop in San Jose 1979
for a Dollar to the Subliminal shop in Stockholm and got a copy of the
Hawaiian Eye LP for it... And records, of course: Once you've found an
Exotica 1 Mono or Perez Prado Voodoo Suite in lava red vinyl for 50c you
wouldn't complain about some other junk that might be in the thrift
shops. How about vintage Apple One computers...I know it takes to be a
nerd to collect those but one day they will be incredible collectors
items and you could get them for 5$ in a thrift shop in Glendale two
years ago. Is Canada that different?

MO*



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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More URLs
Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:36:45 +0000


Thanks for your constant inspiring supply of bookmarks, Lou!

MO*



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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lazlo, help
Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:37:07 +0000


Lazlo Nibble wrote:

> (For the record,
> the two most regularly off-topic lists I'm on are alloy [the Thomas Dolby
> list] and the dirtylist [for Underworld, Freur, et al.].  You're lucky to get
> 10% relevant posts on some days...)

I don't find that surprising at all. Imagine talking about Thomas Dolby for
years on a daily basis... wow!

MO*



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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...
Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:39:58 +0000


It looks like thrift shops are amazingly different. I went to stores all
over America, big cities and little hole-and-corner-towns (I've got that
expression from the dictionary) as well. There were times when more than
half of my wardrobe consisted of thrift shop finds. I used to be proud
that everything on my body costed less than 10$ all together. I just
sold two Hawaiian shirts I bought in  a salvation shop in San Jose 1979
for a Dollar to the Subliminal shop in Stockholm and got a copy of the
Hawaiian Eye LP for it... And records, of course: Once you've found an
Exotica 1 Mono or Perez Prado Voodoo Suite in lava red vinyl for 50c you
wouldn't complain about some other junk that might be in the thrift
shops. How about vintage Apple One computers...I know it takes to be a
nerd to collect those but one day they will be incredible collectors
items and you could get them for 5$ in a thrift shop in Glendale two
years ago. Is Canada that different?

MO*


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Supermarket Music)
Date: 01 Aug 1998 16:25:08 +0200


    thanx for this info, Chuck!
    i've added your name (not your address) to my acknowledgement page.

        Johan


        [e-mail]


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At 11:59 -0700 98/07/27, chuck wrote:
>Johan:
>I checked out your exotica releases overview and you had a question as
>to the relase date of Supermarket Music
>
>I looked again at the notes inside the Lorraine Bowen experience and
>it was recorded in Copenhagen in 1996.  There is really no other info
>available on the cd not in Japanese.  I'm not sure if it ws released
>in 1996 or 1997.
>
>Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
>Chuck
>
>_________________________________________________________
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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Re: (exotica) Popp&Basta&Scott
Date: 01 Aug 1998 13:47:22 -0400



>At 11:04 AM +0200 7/28/98, Basta Audio Visuals wrote:
>
>>I hope you can help me. I am from Basta Audio Visuals from Holland.

ah, that pesky Reply command! I didn't notice the cc to the list. Sorry for
the intrusion.

>There are around 400 people on that list, including folks from Sweden,
>Germany, South Africa, Japan, Canada, England, Holland and the U.S.

Hey, I forgot Belgium and Scotland! Sorry about that Johan, Jill and Robbie

ya know, with all this talk recently about roll calls and lurkers, what
other ends of the earth are represented on this list? Now that I think of
it, we have Italy and Australia, too.

br cleve




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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming
Date: 01 Aug 1998 14:09:20 -0400


You can also hear Thelonious Monk vocalizing in the background
sometimes.

I wonder if the idea behind this might be to aid keyboard/mallet
players in forming breath-sized phrases, such as a wind instrument
would play.

Keith Jarret must be close to a worst-case scenario, though. He doesn't
hum -- he whines.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) reel fun
Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:29:11 PDT


Charlieman said:

<Bring back the reel-to-reel decks!>

I wholeheartedly agree.  After looking at them occasionally in thrift
stores over the past few years and not buying
because either:  a) they appeared to be in questionable condition, or, b)
they were priced too high for something
that might not work at all, or, c) both a and b, I finally bought one
earlier this year.  It's a mid-1960s Akai in mint
condition and they only wanted $5 u.s. at the yard sale.  It works
perfectly and even came with three tapes made by the prior
owner.  One is big band/swing music; one is stuff by Mancini and Kaempfert;
and the other, entitled "Mood Music
for Dining" contains tracks by Herb Alpert, Sergio Mendes and the like.
What's amazing is the excellent fidelity
of these tapes.  They are 30+ years old, on a semi-fragile recording
medium, taped from LPs, yet the sound today
even on headphones is near perfect.  Mounting the tape on the player and
threading it through the complex tape
path is fun too.

There is something strangely satisfying about obsolete and/or antiquated
technologies.  Many of us on this list have
8-track tape players.  Others have mentioned old video games (Atari) and
primitive computers.  My current PC
doesn't have a CD-ROM drive, and instead of moving forward in time and
acquiring one,
I'd like to move backwards and install an 8-track tape drive right in an
empty port on my PC tower.
Whether it worked or not, it would just look cool.

Finally, with the recent discussions about thrift store experiences, I must
recommend the book "Thrift Score."  It is
the definitive guide to the art of thrifting.  Very witty and entertaining
and available in paperback, probably at your
local library too.

-- Brad


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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Re: (exotica) Popp&Basta&Scott
Date: 01 Aug 1998 17:45:42 -0400


I'm from France but living in New York. I don't know how that counts :)

Elisabeth


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...
Date: 01 Aug 1998 18:16:23 -0400


At 03:39 PM 01/08/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote:
>
>It looks like thrift shops are amazingly different.  Is Canada that
different?

No I don't think so but obviously some Canadians are... even on this list.
A friend of mine just came back from out west and brought a box of great
finds including the Marty Gold "Moog plays the Beatles" and Harry Breuer's
"Happy Moog" which he gave ME.
But to tell you the truth, finding collector's items in thrift stores is
not my motivation at all.  Maybe you need to find a few every year to keep
your interest high.  But I like thrift stores   In fact I love them.  And
if I go to a new town or even a new part of town and don't visit a thrift
store, I feel cheated.
And as far as records go, one of the reasons I go to thrift stores - as
well as used record stores - is because of the records you would seldom, if
ever, see at a used record store.
I have dreams - waking and sleeping - about turning the corner in a thrift
store and coming upon piles of records.  But maybe I'm a dusty guy already.
Myself I don't like antique stores.  If they've got records, I might make
my way back to them but all the time I'm thinking "Don't knock anything over".
And talk about being stared at!  At least at a thrift store, when you pick
something up, nobody's looking down their nose at you wondering if you know
what you just picked up.
"Yeah I know what it is!  It's a... it's a. uh.. one of those things you
put flowers in"

There are no wrong answers at a thrift store.  To each, his own.

Nat




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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) tape fun
Date: 01 Aug 1998 23:18:22 +0100


Brad wrote:
>My current PC doesn't have a CD-ROM drive, and instead of moving
>forward in time and acquiring one, I'd like to move backwards
>and install an 8-track tape drive right in an empty port on
>my PC tower.  Whether it worked or not, it would just look cool.

I'm not sure about using 8-track for data, but for audio it should be ok.
If you had a spare serial port and connected it to a digital-analog
converter, you could even change track by clicking an icon!  That
would indeed be cool.

The era of the 8-track, for the most part, ended before the start of
the era of the home computer, but I wonder if anyone ever did
write a program to give the best fit of a 10 or 11 track LP on
a blank 8-track, from a list of the individual song durations?
It'd be an interesting assignment.

Of course, 8-track would be too bulky for a laptop computer.
You'd need a playtape drive for that.

Hugh.


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thrift finds
Date: 01 Aug 1998 23:18:25 +0100


Acquisitions from the Scope Shop in Croydon today.

- EMI Studio 2 1969, "Go Hammond Go" - Wally Green and
his Hammond Combo.  Superbly recorded but unexciting material.
Designed for ballroom dancing schools, there are some unusual
tempos, e.g. "The good, the bad and the ugly" is done as a samba,
ditto "A walk in the black forest"
- Decca Phase 4 1968, "Focus on Phase 4 Sampler"
14 tracks from Stanley Black, Ted Heath, Edmundo Ros etc.
Even a cut from Les Paul.  Superb
- RCA Camden, 1963 "Living Voices sing Rambling Rose etc"
Arranged by Anita Kerr.  Record so-so, but the sleeve is a
masterpiece of kitsch, with a photo of a gal surrounded by roses,
and the rest of the sleeve is in pale pink metallic finish, like pink
cooking foil.

I also bought three Andy Williams albums which, 30+ years on,
sound surprisingly good, both in hi-fi and arrangement terms.

Hugh.

PS: If anyone can suggest a good place to try for out-of-stock
Rhino CD's, could they mail me direct?  Thanks. HP


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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject:       Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...
Date: 01 Aug 1998 22:27:23 EST


I figured there would be a whole range of response to my thrift
store post and I don't want to give the wrong impression.

Part of my problem is one of time.  I no longer have a lot of time to
spend record shopping as anyone who becomes a parent will
unfortunately find out..  I used to spend the better part of the
weekend "making the rounds" in all the stores here.  Also, the sort of
records I was interested in would never appear in a thrift store.
Whose parents would have had Pierre Henry, Conrad Schnitzler
or Residents records to give away to charity.  Believe me if there
was any chance I would find these sort of things in a thrift store
I'd have tried it out long ago. It's really with the exotica stuff
that shopping for used records has changed. I'm absolutely certain
that the records, at least the exotica ones I pick up at my favourite
store were most likely bought at a garage sale or thrift shop by the
owner. He has to take the time to shop and also maintain a store but
this is not unique to records and is much the same for just about
anything collectible, unfortunately. Of course a huge number of used
record stores I once knew are no longer in business and most that
remain no longer buy much vinyl as they don't sell a whole lot. There
was a time you could find Pierre Henry or Conrad Schnitzler records
in used stores and often very cheaply too but I don't expect to ever
find much more of the obscure non-exotica vinyl I want as the places
to look are fewer and fewer with each passing day.

But in response to Kevin's comment on attitude and expectations, I
have to say I've spent a lot of time in some very questionable places
that many would never dare go, so it's really not that. Remember I'm
the one that told the list that Coney Island, NY was just about the
most fascinating place I ever visited!  It's simply about shopping in
a store that clearly isn't a happy place to be in. To have to see
the misery on the faces of the people that HAVE to shop there really
doesn't do a whole lot for me. And the way I see it, if the
experience isn't enjoyable why do it! But again I say to each his or
her own...

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...
Date: 01 Aug 1998 20:17:41 -0700


Myself I don't like antique stores.  If they've got records, I might make
my way back to them but all the time I'm thinking "Don't knock anything
over".
And talk about being stared at!  At least at a thrift store, when you pick
something up, nobody's looking down their nose at you wondering if you know
what you just picked up.

The thing that bothers me about antique stores is the fact dealers RARELY
have a clue about how to price a record. to make matters wors, every time
I pick up a record, they want to tell me how "rare" and "valuable" it is.

I have to agree that some thrift stores are pretty sad places, but the good
ones are
like cathederals to me.



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From: "keir keightley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Billy May Live!
Date: 02 Aug 1998 05:22:06 PDT


Last night I witnessed something I never dreamed I would ever
experience:  "In A Persian Garden", LIVE!.  I travelled to Edinburgh to
see the 80-something maestro May and the BBC big band, along with a
Sinatra wannabe vocalist, and was not disappointed.  Tons of stuff from
his 50s Capitol LPs, and 29 (!) musicians on stage, including massive
percussion, harpist, and live hi-fi effects.  In fact, in introducing
"Persian Garden", Billy said he made the arrangement because "Capitol
were experimenting with high fidelity in those days and wanted something
with lots of different instruments".  Ah, live exotica heaven...

From BossaNovaVille,
Keir

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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thrift finds - postscript
Date: 02 Aug 1998 14:49:30 +0100


I forgot to list one particularly good find:
On RCA Camden,  1971,
Peter Nero plays a salute to Herb Alpert & the TJB
I expected this to be rather tacky covers, but it is
extremely well-thought-through.  Great arrangements,
sleeve deliberately like one of Herb's own, and a
tribute from Herb on the sleeve.  I am now looking
for more of Mr Nero's work.  Anyone recommend
anything especially?

Hugh.




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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Brian Karasick: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...]
Date: 02 Aug 1998 15:27:37 +0100


> From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
>
> weekend "making the rounds" in all the stores here.  Also, the sort of
> records I was interested in would never appear in a thrift store.
> Whose parents would have had Pierre Henry, Conrad Schnitzler
> or Residents records to give away to charity.  Believe me if there

I got my copies of "Messe Pour Le Temps Present" and "Duck Stab/Buster
and Glen" at charity shops.



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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...
Date: 02 Aug 1998 11:24:00 -0500


>
>I say this all for the simple reason that shopping for used records is
>something I've been doing for nearly 25 years and I've spent a
>lot of my free time doing it.

I would have never thought it humanly possible to have bought records for
this long and to never have gone into a thrift shop!!?? That's one for
the record books (no pun intended).

It made me think back on my own record buying past. I'm proud to say that
my first record purchase was at a church sale. I was 6 and the record was
Herb Alpert's Lonely Bull, so I guess I've been doing this
'exotica'/thrift thing  a lot longer than I had previously thought.

I don't think anyone has brought this up, it may be a touchy subject but,
I get a feeling that those who distain Thrift stores just might have a
higher income than the average thrifter. I myself suffer from "starving
artist syndrome". I purposefully live in underemployment and this make
thrift shopping a necessity.
I guess I'm just really wondering what a demographics of this list might
reveal.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift finds - postscript
Date: 02 Aug 1998 09:11:19 PDT


Hugh asked:

>  I am now looking
>for more of Mr Nero's work.  Anyone recommend
>anything especially?

Yes: Hits from Hair to Hollywood (Columbia CS 9907), on which Mr Nero
tries his hands at the moog. This lp also includes Bob Rosengarden on
quica, police whistle and drums (which provide "the only sound on 'The
Windmills of Your Mind' not created by the synthesizer.").


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Subject: (exotica) Re: More FAQing Questions
Date: 02 Aug 1998 16:27:27 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:

>1) a list of web/internet sources

    several sites, including my own, have lists of links

>3) A list of beginner's comps; ie: easy to find starter kits for the new
>exoticat-

    i'm working on such a page, stay tuned.

>7) A list of non-internet resources, like books, movies, radio shows, TV shows,
>magazines,

    Vik's Lounge has a big and impressive page with books & magazines.

        Johan Dada Vis

        [e-mail]

        "Dada'quariums Exotica": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/

        "Zounds in Cyber Space":
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Subject: (exotica) Re: Anyone for a FAQ?
Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:28:38 +0200


Ross Orr <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Q: Do people really LIKE this obviously awful music?

    the use of the term "obviously awful" is not exactly diplomatic,
    sounds patronizing and promotes prejudice, in my opinion.
    i'd try to find something more neutral, maybe

    "why do they like this music?" ... or ...
    "what is there to discover in this odd genre?"

    otherwise nice work!

        Johan


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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)
Date: 02 Aug 1998 10:32:13 PDT


Some of the posts on thrift shop funk were interesting. I have from time
to time not been unaware of a slight twinge of melancholy when stepping
through the thriftdoor. Unchecked, it can develop into a vague nausea or
shame. I say this because I suspect that I am tacitly harrowed by all of
those less than tenderly heaped tribes of garments and objects, no
longer under the radiant gaze of publicity, picked over by pensioners
and the poor who have no choice. A sense of the perverse creeps over me:
Existence as a calculated rhythm of consumption and disposal. I look at
all this stuff, blurred into a single force and stripped from the
context of the lives and the world it expressed and defined and think,
at some level, these things fail us; I will die. The clothes-hamper
staleness of these places is the stink of dead souls. So, Vergil in the
Underworld of consumer society.
Ah, black coffee.

Anyway, the question is: does anyone know if the Disney (;) lp: The
Enchanted Tiki Room has ever made it to disc? I found the lp yesterday
and took it to friend's place to play (turntabe still dead) and it is
wonderful, though a slight bit crackley.


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 2
Date: 02 Aug 1998 13:37:48 -0400


"Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl.  Space Bop features
music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier!
Comments & questions welcome.

August 2 - The Exotic Moog

Perrey & Kingsley:  Winchester Cathedral  "The Essential Perrey &
Kingsley"

Jean-Jacques Perrey:  Moog Indigo  "Moog Indigo"

Richard Sear:  Love Child  "The Copper Plated Integrated Circuit"

Mort Garson:  Aquarius  "Electronic Hair Pieces"

Jean-Jacques Perrey:  Hello Dolly  "Moog Indigo"

Enoch Light & The Light Brigade:  Bond Street  "Spaced Out"

Richard Hayman:  Peanut Vendor  "Genuine Electric Latin Love Machine"

Gershon Kingsley:  Bei Mir Bistu Shein  "First Moog Quartet"

Gershon Kingsley:  For Alisse Beethoven  "Music To Moog By"

Sy Mann:  Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer  "Switched on Xmas"

Gershon Kingsley:  Twinkle Twinkle  "Music To Moog By"

Perrey & Kingsley:   Strangers In The Night  "Essential Perrey &
Kingsley"

Gershon Kingsley:  Popcorn  "First Moog Quartet"

Perrey & Kingsley:  Mas Que Nada  "Essential Perrey & Kingsley"

Jean-Jacques Perrey:  E.V.A.  "Moog Indigo"

Bobby Setter's Cash & Carry:  Tchip Tchip  "Dancing at the
Moog-O-Theque"

Perrey & Kingsley:  Unidentified Flying Object  "Essential Perrey &
Kingsley"

The Bad Examples:  Papeete  "The River, The Night, The Moon, Temptation
And You"

Dimitri From Paris:  Le Moogy Reggae  "Sacre Bleu"


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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Richard Hell's Blank Generation
Date: 02 Aug 1998 20:00:51 +0000


>  "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I still remember the shock at
> finding out only a few years back that Richard Hell's "Blank
> Generation" was a re-written beat jazz song adapted, very artfully to
> another generation.

I'm shocked! Can anybody recall what's the original song
covered/adapted by R. Hell?
Thank you
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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Italy, too!
Date: 02 Aug 1998 20:00:51 +0000


on last exotica-digest "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]> wrote to an
aspiring dutch listmember (the guy from "Basta"):
> There are around 400 people on that list, including folks from Sweden,
> Germany, South Africa, Japan, Canada, England, Holland and the U.S.

Hey! There's Italy too, even if I know of only two listmembers from
our beloved land of erotica exotica (the other guy being mostly a
lurker: ciao Andrea!).
We now can start sort of an international rollcall. Are there
people from other countries (apart those mentioned by brother plus
Italy) in this list? Where are you from?
Alohaderci
Gionni Paludi


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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind is Grand
Date: 02 Aug 1998 20:32:36 +0000


> [e-mail] (Stephen Funk) wrote:
> Okay, what's the deal with the "Las Vegas Grind" CDs?
> Saw these for the first time at the local record shoppe in the
> "Lounge" section. Thought I remembered some discussion about them on
> this list, but couldn't remember the gist of it.

> and
> "Michael Bennet" <[e-mail]> (Hi, Michael!) wrote:
> Any recommendations for which of the three CD volumes of this comp
> (Las Vegas Grind) to start with?

I think reference is made to one my previous posting.
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:35:18 +0000 (hey, t'was me birds' day!),
I ([e-mail]) wrote on "Subject: (exotica) comps on
strip label":

> Someone else had written:
> > > Allan recommended Chester get "Jungle Exotica" - I wouldn't
> > > recommend this to anyone unless you really know that they'd
> > > like that very primitive RAW sound.  I'm not sure you'd want
> > > to start of a "beginner" with this stuff - his mind needs a while
> > > to be s-lo-w-l-y twisted......
> > > While this stuff on the Strip label is fun, you're not going be
> > > giving these discs heavy rotation once the novelty of the
> > > tunes wears off.  For the most part these are very boring
> > > arrangements, a lot of them bordering on tedious (esp. the
> > > "Jungle" stuff).
>
> and:
> > I just can't agree, as the Strip Records discs have not left my cd player
> > since I bought them. Yes, the tunes are raw, but also lively &
> > immediate...it is not polite music! The tracks on Las Vegas Grind & Jungle
> > Exotica sound like they were recorded in one take with no time for that
> > fancy studio/audio trickery that seems to wow so many.

Then I wrote:
> Gee! Those comps on Strip (heading from Crypt in Germany), Las Vegas
> Grind (voll. 1-5) and Jungle Exotica (vol. 1-2), plus other sequels
> like Frolic Diner (Romulan UFO) or single issues like "Forbidden City
> Dog Food", are SHEER GENIUS to me. REALLY THEY ARE SEMINAL, I do
> thinks. They're raw & primitive, that's true, but they're NOT garage
> punk; it's 100% FUN, with straight exotic attitude. That's what
> actually lead me to explore the classic exotic music. Now I know
> more, and love also other things, but Las Vegas Grind is the record
> that started it all for me. I don't think fans of exotica should
> dislike them and just refer to them as "trash": that's just what I
> like about them records and - BTW - isn't that "trash" what  you
> find in thrift stores and garage sales for a dollar?
>
> Anyway, to understand how these records are grand and how
> they were made just listen to the studio dialogue between Louie and
> one of his recording artist in vol. 2 (vinyl issue) of Las Vegas Grind (a.k.a.
> "Louie's Limbo Lounge").
>
> Anyone else?
> Gionni Paludi

Still I think these records are GRAND and should find place in very
exotica listmember discotheque. As I read you want to go for the cd
format, I would recommend to start with vol. 1, and buy voll. 2 +
3 the very next day. I'd go for the vinyl issue, though: pictures of
naked go go dancers are bigger!
Attention: vol. 5 of LVG and vol. 3 of Jungle Exotica came out with a
lot of bonus tracks (not included in the vinyl edition) in the cd
issue. You'll find complete tracklistings in the german Crypt
website.
Go for them all!
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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)
Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:36:00 +0100


> From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
>
> Some of the posts on thrift shop funk were interesting. I have from time
> to time not been unaware of a slight twinge of melancholy when stepping
> through the thriftdoor. Unchecked, it can develop into a vague nausea or
> shame. I say this because I suspect that I am tacitly harrowed by all of
> those less than tenderly heaped tribes of garments and objects, no
> longer under the radiant gaze of publicity, picked over by pensioners
> and the poor who have no choice. A sense of the perverse creeps over me:
> Existence as a calculated rhythm of consumption and disposal. I look at
> all this stuff, blurred into a single force and stripped from the
> context of the lives and the world it expressed and defined and think,
> at some level, these things fail us; I will die. The clothes-hamper
> staleness of these places is the stink of dead souls. So, Vergil in the
> Underworld of consumer society.
> Ah, black coffee.

You know, it's posts like this, along with some previous ones, that
make me think there may be a touch of difference between N. American
"thrifts" and British charity shops. In my experience, charity shops
are generally INTIMIDATINGLY clean, brightly lit, and neatly laid
out. Rather than having to scrape my hands clean afterwards, I often
start to sneeze with my pot-pourri allergy, I feel a horrible
itchiness as though I had been covered with Body Shop "Avocado,
Pumicestone and Domestos Pore-Grubbing Gel" then squeaked over with one
of those rubber-bladed windscreen wiper thingies, and I start to pine
for the hideous squalor that is the interior of an operating theatre.



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Richard Hell's Blank Generation
Date: 02 Aug 1998 15:13:52 -0400


> > I still remember the shock at
> > finding out only a few years back that Richard Hell's "Blank
> > Generation" was a re-written beat jazz song adapted, very artfully
to
> > another generation.
>
> I'm shocked! Can anybody recall what's the original song
> covered/adapted by R. Hell?
> Thank you
> Gionni Paludi

You're shocked already? Sit down and have the smelling salts handy --
the original was authored by Rod McKuen. It is "The Beat Generation"
(Brunswick single), credited to Bob McFadden & Dor. According to the
booklet in the Rhino "Beat Generation" cd box set, Bob McFadden *was*
McKuen. The song is pretty much an exploit-the-cliches kind of thing.
The melody and chord structure is similar, but not exactly the same as
Hell's version. Similar sort of rhythm -- the resemblance is heaviest
in the chorus. But Hell clearly was taking off from it. "Blank
Generation" having been one of my punk favorites for years, I was also
very shocked to learn this.

It was recorded for the film, "The Beat Generation" (1959, also
released as "This Rebel Age") an Albert Zugsmith production with a cast
including: Mamie Van Doren, Jackie Coogan (Uncle Fester!), Jim Mitchum,
Charles Chaplin Jr, Vampira, Steve Cochran, Ray Danton, Maxie
Rosenbloom, William Schallert (Patty Duke's dad), Fay Spain, Irish
McCalla, Grabowski, Louis Armstrong & his band and the proverbial many,
many more.

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Richard Hell's Blank Generation
Date: 02 Aug 1998 13:17:05 PDT


Si:

"The Beat Generation," by Bob McFadden and Dor.



>I'm shocked! Can anybody recall what's the original song
>covered/adapted by R. Hell?
>Thank you
>Gionni Paludi


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Thrift finds - postscript
Date: 02 Aug 1998 17:13:49 EDT


Peter Nero does a good version of Young Hold Unlimited's "Soulful Strut" on
one of his LP's and there are two or three other good trax on it as well...AND
it is standard thrift shop fare....Jimmy


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Thrift finds - postscript
Date: 02 Aug 1998 17:14:54 EDT


More on Nero---his arrogant facial expression on the cover of the previously
mentioned  LP is surprisingly repulsive


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Sound Gallery" curators' other releases?
Date: 02 Aug 1998 17:20:03 EDT


I'm sure most on the list are familiar with the work of "curators" Martin
Green and Patrick Whitaker, who brought us both volumes of "The Sound Gallery"
and the fantastic "The Sound Spectrum." Their new release is "Erotica Italia,"
which collects themes from '60s softcore Italian films.

But what I'm wondering is, has anyone heard of their other two releases listed
in the "Erotica" liner notes: "Cinema 100" and/or "Movie Grooves"?

What's on them? Are they in the same vein as the other albums? And, perhaps
most importantly, where on Earth can I *find* these discs?

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)
Date: 02 Aug 1998 21:05:44 -0400


At 07:36 PM 02/08/98 +0100, Peter Hipwell wrote:

>You know, it's posts like this, along with some previous ones, that
>make me think there may be a touch of difference between N. American
>"thrifts" and British charity shops.

I bet there are lots of differences.  For instance, at a North American
thrift store, nobody stops for tea.  (Well, maybe in Victoria B.C. but I'm
not certain.)  And speaking of tea, last time I went to a thrift store -
which I usually refer to by name, either the Goodwill or the Sally Ann - I
looked high and low for a tea cosy but alas no luck.
In truth, I have been to some clean, neat, well organized thrift stores but
they're few and far between and when I walk in to places like that, I
usually think I'm in the wrong place.
However, there was something else in your post that for me pointed out the
really huge gap between our two (or three or four) cultures.


> then squeaked over with one of those rubber-bladed windscreen wiper
thingies,

"rubber-bladed windscreen wiper thingies".

Clearly your street corners are not overrun by rubber-bladed windscreen
wiper thingy-wielding street youth who extort money from motorists by
trying to clean their windshields with their rubber-bladed wiper thingies.
If you had experienced such a phenomenon, then you would know that those
thingies are called "squeegees".
If you lived in Toronto in fact, you would be in the middle of the SQUEEGIE
WAR ZONE with local politicians and right-wing tabloids - inspired by
similar British tabloids - calling for the extermination of the "squeegee
kids".

And here all this time, I thought that as a Canadian, I was acting as a
bridge between the British and the Americans on the list here.

It's kind of sad to find myself relating more to the Yanks on this issue.

Of course, here in Canada, if you get to the thrift store as they open, you
do get at the bargains first but on the other hand, they make you stand for
"God Save the Queen".  I tried to buy an Esquivel record once while the
anthem was still playing. They took the record from me as if to ring it up
but then they wouldn't give it back.

I'll never try that again.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Non-finds and finds
Date: 02 Aug 1998 17:31:47 +0000


There are at least two things I enjoy about going through records.
    1. finding great music/ great cover art (or combination of both!)
    2. learning about LP's that I might want to get some day.
So, today I found some interesting records (the finds)...and found out ABOUT
some interesting records (the non-finds).

The Richard Marino Orchestra  Out of This World  LMM 13007
This would have been far more interesting if I had found the stereo
version.  Also,
I bet there are far more successful attempts to do this kind of "ethereal"
treatment
of standards.  However, there are some impressive moments that would have
pretty
good in stereo.

There is some sort of electronic instrument incorporated in the performance
which is not specified.  The three sopranos doing wordless vocals was the
real enhancer, though.

As the album notes say, this is a "highly impressionic album to take you
voyaging Out of This World on the rockets of your imagination." Well, if
you are on quayludes or something anyway.

The album is one Liberty's Premier series, so when you remove the record
and sleeve,
it has four very large circular holes through both sides of the cover (the
ultimate "cut-out" :> ). Luckilly, the effect worked because the album came
with its original sleeve (which completes the colors and patterns set up on
the cover).

I had never heard anyone say anything about this album...maybe because it's
too laid back.  However, like I said, it has its eccentric moments that
take it out of the realm of just another Mantovani-type string orchestra.

More later on finds and non-finds.

Byron

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Question About A Song
Date: 02 Aug 1998 22:06:45 EDT


I went garage saling yesterday and found quite a few jazz albums, exotica and
pop. One album, Lambert, Hendricks and Ross has a song that I've heard before
but for the life of me I can't remember who sang it. It's a sort of goofy song
called "Twisted". Can anyone help me out with who sang other versions.

I also got two organ albums: one by Ethel Smith and the other by Buddy Cole. I
can't find any info on either of these artists. Any help there also?

I finally got a copy of Les Baxter's Jungle Jazz album.

On a sad note, I got an album called The Cool Scene which looked VERY beat
generation, and when I got it home discovered the album was split in two. I
was VERY disappointed. The song titles alone leave me weak.
Gloria


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From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) mallet-player humming disease
Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:11:16 -0700


>It might be a musicians with mallets thing. At a recent duet Austin show,
>drummer Sunny Murray was working his kit and humming madly. Then saxist
>Sonny Simmons sauntered back on stage and showed how to really perform a
>tune.
>
>MimiM


Same with vibes player Bobby Hutchinson.  He not only hums along
open-mouthed, but he grimaces like he's experiencing a hernia.

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Subject: (exotica) finds and non-finds part 2
Date: 02 Aug 1998 18:31:57 +0000


Here are other disc-coveries:

Ferrante & Teicher  Broadway to Hollywood Columbia  CL 1607
Another mono recording which is also available in stereo, however I don't
think I will be actively looking for the stereo version.  I was quite
excited when I ran into this record when I spied a fragment of a
sentence on the album notes: "...exploits with prepared pianos--plucked
strings, tacked Hammers, wacking the lid..."

"Wow," I said,"another prepared piano album I don't have!" I snatched it
up and didn't think twice.

Should have thought twice...or at least read the COMPLETE notes.

The sentence begins "Here they abandon their exploits with prepared piano..."

Oops.

Actually, the notes weren't completely correct. The duo did NOT give up
prepared piano entirely...still that plays a minor role to the full
orchestra and standard piano playing.

I would advocate this album above most of their later albums with UA, but
that is far as I'd go.

----

Tito Rivera and His Cuban Orchestra   Echoes of Havana Tops L 1637
A decent album that I do not regret buying for 50 cents.  Pretty good sound
for mono.  These are good Latin big band performances, but nothing truly
extraordinary.  The cover is pretty boring with a dark picture of a
guitar/drums trio performing on a dance stage (with, of course, populated
with twirling couples).

----

Jorge Renan   Wild Guitars  KAPP KL-1270
Pretty guitar playing but nothing really "wild" as the title and colorful
cover promise.

----

Kurt Maier  Around the World  Rondo-lette  A33
I bought this more for the cover than anything else (7 women wearing
bathing suits standing in shallow water holding colorful scarfs above their
heads).  It is mostly Kurt Maier playing the piano, but bongos occasionally
make an appearance (especially in the Brazil cut--a medly of Bai-A-Ai,
Quiereme Mucho, Perfidia and Cumana).  The music was barely
interesting...even with cuts which had the Latin flavor.

----

Other records I don't have time to listen to immediately but I have some
hope for:

Marjorie Meinert   Sitting Pretty  RCA LPM 2168
Dick Schory  Carnegie Hall  Ovation  OV 14 10 2
Ruth Welcome  Welcome to Zither Land  Capitol  T 1471
Ruth Welcome  Zither in 3/4 Time  Capitol  ST 1318
The Paris Left Bank Musicians  Holiday in Paris  Bravo K 123
Bill Justis  Bill Justis plays 12 big instrumental hits  Smash MGS 27021
Miyoshi Umeki  Miyoshi Sings for Arthur Godfrey  Mercury  MG 20165
Buddy Merrill Sounds of Love  Accent ACS 5024
Buddy Merrill The Many Splendored Guitar of Buddy Merrill  Accent  AC 5022
(I am really growing to like Buddy Merrill.  Check out my latest
playlist #89 on the Mr. Smooth Website indicated below)


The non-finds:

Here are records mentioned on the sleeves that sound interesting to me.
What do you think?

On Polydor: James Last
    Piano a gogo
       Hammond a gogo (1,2,3)
    Trumpet a gogo (1,2,3)
    Guitar a gogo
    Humba Humba a gogo  (huh?)
These are all albums (according to the notes), "fur viele, viele Parties."
Among the types of parties recommended: Pot Party, Hot Party, Cool Party,
Beat Party and Bierparty.

On Kapp:

Artie Barsamian and his Orch.  Seventh Veil  KL 1090/KS 3044
Tarrangano and Orch.  Surprise Party Latin Style  ML 7511
Lani Royal  Percussive Pineapples  ML 7516
Joe Harnell  Naked City  ML 7517
Joe Harnell  Asphalt Jungle  ML 7518

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Date: 02 Aug 1998 18:38:48 +0000


At 10:06 PM 8/2/98 EDT, Gloria wrote:
> One album, Lambert, Hendricks and Ross has a song that I've heard before
>but for the life of me I can't remember who sang it. It's a sort of goofy
song
>called "Twisted".

I got the same album today!  Twisted was done quite successfully by Joni
Mitchell with a cameo from Cheech and Chong.


>I also got two organ albums: one by Ethel Smith and the other by Buddy Cole.

From my discological research (reading record liners):  Ethel Smith recorded
exclusively for Decca and her best known performance was Tico Tico (it
seems to be on every other of her albums).  For my money, Lenny Dee is the
male Ethel Smith.  Avoid her Christmas album however: it is too sanctified
for me (unless that is what you want).

Buddy Cole released several Warner Brothers albums which swing pretty well.
 He may have also recorded for Columbia as well, if memory serves.

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Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:19:42 +0000


At 11:24 AM 8/2/98 -0500, Frank wrote:
>I guess I'm just really wondering what a demographics of this list might
>reveal.

I have been thrift storing and garage saling since before I remember.  My
parents were hard working veterans of WWII and Korea with three children
to support and with the memory of The Great Depression.  Thus, they tried
to save by going to the PX (that's Post Exchange) at San Francisco's
Presidio for large grocery buys...and by occasionally checking out the
thrift stores.  Our race car set came from post thrift store as well as
many back issues of National Geographic.

So, I just continued that approach when I finally started to buy stuff (as
always, mainly records).  That, combined with my eclectic musical
upbringing, made exotica an always background interest of mine...and
second-hand was always the main source.

As a college student, I scrimped and saved everywhere.  Not only was it a
necessity, but I enjoyed the challenge of keeping up my record buying and
putting food on the table.

In the job market, I worked at public radio stations... and began to buy CDs.
OW! Low income and high outgo.  I still went to the thrifts (for everything
but
CDs) just to make up for the net loss from the new audio technology!

Finally, though, I got a job that pays well enough to buy CDs and quality
used records (and pay the important bills, too). However, I still go to the
second-hand outlets because I find most of the more interesting stuff can
be discovered there.  The hunt is fun and I will continue to do it as time
allows.

I suppose if I ever find a partner in life, that type of recreation may
have to change somewhat.  I do include the mix of buying new (CD's) and
from the web/internet (new and old), but I still mostly enjoy the thrift
stores: I find the best stuff there.  After all, the used record stores
probably get their stock from people who go to thrift stores (I see these
people all the time: they don't buy for their interests, only for what they
know they can re-sell).  By going to the thrift store, I save money, cut
out the middle-person, and get the joy of the hunt.


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Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:20:05 +0000


At 10:32 AM 8/2/98 PDT, Ben wrote:
>Anyway, the question is: does anyone know if the Disney (;) lp: The
>Enchanted Tiki Room has ever made it to disc?

Not sure about the whole LP, but the best part is on "Classic Disney"
Volume II on, of course, Walt Disney Records (CD 60866):  "The Tiki, Tiki,
Tiki Room."

Unlike other companies which seem to care less about reissues unless they
see a HUGE audience, Disney seems to be on a program of reissuing
everything it ever did again and again.  If it hasn't reissued the entire
album, I bet it wouldn't take too much prodding to get Disney to do it
(especially if it ties into some re-opening or other product).

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Richard Hell's Blank Generation
Date: 02 Aug 1998 23:36:39 EDT


It's based on the beat exploitation classic "Beat Generation" by Bob McFadden
(aka Rod McKuen) and Dor.  It's a great (albeit cheesy, not classy) song.  The
only thing jazzy about either version is Bob Quine's swinging chainsaw-
through-abandoned-car guitar stylings...

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Date: 03 Aug 1998 00:06:37 EDT


In a message dated 8/2/98 10:18:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

>  One album, Lambert, Hendricks and Ross has a song that I've heard before
>  but for the life of me I can't remember who sang it. It's a sort of goofy
> song
>  called "Twisted". Can anyone help me out with who sang other versions.

You may have heard Joni Mitchell's version, which is on the same album as her
hit song "Help Me".

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Date: 03 Aug 1998 00:11:50 EDT


In a message dated 8/2/98 11:07:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:
From your list of non-finds:
> Lani Royal  Percussive Pineapples  ML 7516

I've got this one and it is quite good.  You should grab it if you come across
it. It includes an excellent version of "The Hawaiian War Chant."

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Subject: (exotica) What constitutes a "thrift" store anyway?
Date: 03 Aug 1998 00:58:47 EST


Peter Hipwell writes:
> I got my copies of "Messe Pour Le Temps Present" and "Duck Stab/Buster
> and Glen" at charity shops.
Not likely you'd have easily found these at most record stores here
in North America let alone at thrifts!

recliner writes:
> I would have never thought it humanly possible to have bought records for
> this long and to never have gone into a thrift shop!!?? That's one for
> the record books (no pun intended).
This leads me into the question of what constitutes a thrift shop
since the sort of places I've always frequented looking for books,
records, electronics and whatever else I may find aren't exactly
catering to an upscale market, if you know what I mean. Church
Bazaars, flea markets, record fairs and their like are social events
as much as places to buy and I never miss those. I simply haven't
ever gone into a Goodwill or Salvation Army store looking for
records.  Personally I think my aversion to SA is a fear in the back
of my mind that I'll walk in and will be instantly targeted by an
older man or woman in uniform asking if I'd heard the word of God
today and I'd never be seen again. Well one of the stores I did go
into was a SA and no the only uniforms I encountered were those Wal-
Mart type smocks worn by the cashiers.  I think it was a bit of an
anticlimax!

Now the other store I went into was at my mother's recomendation as
she had donated some old clothes to it as part of some association's
funding drive.  The place was called Value Village and it was as
antiseptic and organized as the SA and filled with much the same not
too happy looking clientele and a lot of broken junk. I didn't think a
whole lot about it beyond what I'd already stated until Cheryl
mentioned she noticed they had a poster for a website on the door.
So... we checked it out today and what do we find?   It's an American
chain of 125 stores and what's that, they deal in "collectibles"?  We
click on the records icon on the site and what do we see but a
a photo of "Music to read James Bond By" followed by a bid list for
collectors vinyl (with minimums!) and instructing you to make your
deal with the manager of the store in question!!!  Now my mother
donated stuff to this place, so my guess is the charity drive in
question collects and is handed over a cut (probably at xx cents per
pound) for the merchandise. I'm beginning to see a pattern that's
really starting to make me sick. This aside though, no wonder none
of the records in it were good.  The best ones were probably hived
off by the store to more lucrative markets than Winnipeg, Manitoba.
I kid you not, it's all there.  Check out the site yourselves if you
don't believe me!

So that's why I'm a bit confused about what a thrift store really is.
How long until the Salvation Army gets in on the act?   I haven't
looked for a website but I can't bring myself to do so...


Nat Kone writes:
> >You know, it's posts like this, along with some previous ones, that
> >make me think there may be a touch of difference between N. American
> >"thrifts" and British charity shops.
Judging from my discoveries, this would be somewaht of an
understatement! "Only in America" as they say...

> Of course, here in Canada, if you get to the thrift store as they open, you
> do get at the bargains first but on the other hand, they make you stand for
> "God Save the Queen".  I tried to buy an Esquivel record once while the
> anthem was still playing. They took the record from me as if to ring it up
> but then they wouldn't give it back.
Well Canada is not all the same, as over here in Quebec, the next
province over from the one containing Toronto, you'd be as likely to
hear this being played as you would the Israeli national anthem in
the Syrian legislature! I think only the Belgian(s) on the group will
be able to relate to this one though. I wonder if there's a mandatory
Lord's Prayer at the Salvation Army.  Now you're really scaring me
into thinking my first experience there was maybe just a lucky
coincidence...

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
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Subject: (exotica) Swap meet finds...
Date: 03 Aug 1998 01:04:06 EDT


Okay you thrift scores people:

As you all know, I don't do thrift stores (mostly because I don't have the
time), so every few months I go to the local record swap meet here in Los
Angeles (the Pasadena swap meet) and I thought I'd post what I got and for how
much - for those of you who are curious.  I spent 3 hours and $75. I got quite
a few things I wanted or had been recommended over the months from list
members.  Some of the stuff I just bought because I was curious about the
artist, like Geo. Shearing, Dave Brubeck, Edmundo Ros and Walter Wanderley.
Total spent $75 (About the cost of 4 or 5 CD re-issues).  It's a lot of money,
but when you consider I wasn't buying blindly (i.e., got alot of stuff that
had been reccomended) and when you factor in my time, I think I did pretty
well.  All the vinyl is in near mint condition and I didn't have to spend
hours and hours driving to thrift stores, etc.  But considering the expense, I
probably won't listen to this stuff for a month or two (when I've forgotten
how much I spent).  The asking price is in parentheses and the final price I
paid after haggling, is the discount price:

Dealer #1:
The James Bond Thrillers - Roland Shaw Orchestra ($6)
More Themes From James Bond Thrillers - Roland Shaw Orch. ($6)
Edmundo Ros - Dancing With Ros ($4)
TV Action Jazz! - Mundell Lowe ($4)
Total = $21.  After discount, $15

Dealer #2:
Mr. Lucky Goes Latin ($7)
Total = $7.  After discount, $5

Dealer #3, A half-price sale:
9 Beats To The Bar - The Benet Hallberg, Nisse Engstrom.... ($15)
More Music From Peter Gun ($6)
Combo! - Mancini ($15)
Batucada - W. Wanderley ($10)
Brass & Bamboo - Tak Shindo ($6)
Best of Rene Touzet ($6)'
Rain Forest - W. Wanderley ($6)
On The Sunny Side of the Strip ($6)
Dave Brubecks Greatest Hits ($6)
Total = $74, after discount $37

Dealer #4:
Movin 'n' Grovin' - The 3 Suns ($8)
Bossa Nova Brazil: Brazil To Hollywood  - Rene Touzet ($6)
Explosive Brass Impact, Vol. 2 - Warren Kime ($6)
Total = $20, after discount $18

- Michele


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Subject: (exotica) Recommendations needed
Date: 03 Aug 1998 01:04:09 EDT


Oh my recent shopping trip (see swap meet posts) I picked up a few artists I
didn't know anything about and was looking for a few others I couldn't find.
I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the
following:

Bert Kaempfurt
Dave Brubeck
George Shearing
Edmundo Ros

I realize these artists may have been discussed in the past, but unfortunately
we don't have an archive with a search engine that would enable me to search
for these.  I think it would be great if we could add some of the
recommendations to the Faqs list that Ross is making up - that way we don't
have to keep repeating this info over and over.  I realize that could be
problematic but we could just limit it to like 3 or 4 albums per artist.

What do you guys think?  And does anyone have any recommendations about the
above artists?  I will ad them to my next shopping trip.

Thanx in advance,

Michele


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Date: 03 Aug 1998 02:14:19 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-02 11:23:25 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< I don't think anyone has brought this up, it may be a touchy subject but,
 I get a feeling that those who distain Thrift stores just might have a
 higher income than the average thrifter. I myself suffer from "starving
 artist syndrome". I purposefully live in underemployment and this make
 thrift shopping a necessity.  >>

As I've said before, If I only had the time..... I'd go to thrift stores. But
if you work full time,are a graduate student, write for a fanzine and have a
few other misc. hobbies (like fish keeping), not to mention a household to
maintain, the time shopping in thrifts has a very high opportunity cost.  Of
course if you are dirt poor, you got to do the thrifts.  But my life is set up
the opposite way so my time is so valuable and I can't spend it driving around
weekend after weekend looking in thrift stores.  Who's going to do my
research, write my paper, etc.?

So those with no time have to pay the dealers.  Its costs alot, but hey, that
paper gets written.

- Michele


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Date: 03 Aug 1998 02:14:07 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-01 02:37:27 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Me too.  I saw the local record-shop guy at the thrifts, and since I
 occasionally browse in his store and our kids are in the same grade and
 school, went over to say hello.  I made a mental note of the albums he was
 obviously going to buy (for 50 cents), and went to his store the next day.
 Sure enough, in his "just in" bin, there they were - priced between $5 and
 $20. >>

Now doesn't that just burn you up!  But then again, unless you ahve lots of
time you hare going to have a hard time beating the dealers to their sources.
We all know how this goes at swap meets, garage sales, etc.  What I really
hate is having bought something from a dealer at one place and then finding it
cheaper at another dealer.  It hasn't happened in awhile because I kind of
know who's got the best prices now, but when I first started, it happened a
few times.  We live and learn.

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) finds and non-finds part 2
Date: 02 Aug 1998 21:24:20 -0800


>Ferrante & Teicher  Broadway to Hollywood Columbia  CL 1607
>I would advocate this album above most of their later albums with UA, but
>that is far as I'd go.

that is unless one prefers their syrupy cover versions of sixties pop
tunage, like myself !



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Subject: (exotica) Gleason Discography
Date: 02 Aug 1998 23:42:17 -0800



anyone here ever seen a Gleason Discography anywhere?

i have oodles of his Lps but wonder how close i am to having
the complete collection.

in particular, i wonder what his last 'studio' effort of 'new'
material was ?


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Date: 02 Aug 1998 23:00:23 +0000


At 01:04 AM 8/3/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by
>Bert Kaempfurt

Try:
...love that Bert Kaempfert  Decca DL 74986

It has a 2:45 version of Caravan which is quite unique and one of my
favorite arrangements (which, by the way, I learned about on this list).
Can't vouch for anything else he has done, however.

>Dave Brubeck

I think everything he did is great, but you can't go wrong with a mint
copy of anything he did on Fantasy, his first label.  IF you can find
his Fantasy stuff, it is not liable to be in good condition, so near
mint or even a little less than that would be good (At the time he was
big with the college crowds, and most records sold would have been
ruined by those portable players students used in their dorms...my theory,
anyway).

I also like his Columbia releases, but he did get a bit too thematic
at times.  His "time" record (s?) were truly interesting.

He also recorded for Concord, but it is not the classic Dave Brubeck for
my money.

>George Shearing

Funny thing.  Like Brubeck, Shearing also recorded for Concord, but I'd
recommend concentrating on the earlier Capitol recordings.  I like all of
them, but the straightforward unadulterated Shearing seems best to me
(where he has only a small ensemble and isn't playing with another "name"
performer).  Capitol put out some great covers for Shearing, if you care
about such things.

>Edmundo Ros

Closest to exotica.  Some people on the list DO NOT like him, although I
can't understand why. I like his humor.  He definitely has a sound of his
own.  His two Ros on Broadway albums are some of the best Broadway-themed
records around.  Also Hollywood Cha Cha Cha, Arriba, and Bongos from the
South are great: all on London.


My two cents worth.

Byron

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song
Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:05:33 -0400


At 10:06 PM 02/08/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:

>>I also got two organ albums: one by Ethel Smith and the other by Buddy
Cole. I
>can't find any info on either of these artists. Any help there also?

Ethel Smith?  I have a record by her called "Ethel Smiths' Cha Cha Cha
Album".
Good title, eh?  And it has two standout cuts.  "Sk-ratch" (written by
Quincy Jones) and "Flirtation Mambo".  But this is the only record of hers
that I've ever thought was worth keeping... unless you keep everything.
I know some people here call Lenny Dee, the "male Ethel Smith" but as "p.c"
as that may be, cut for cut Lenny blows her out of the water.
And I know that I may be dealing in distinctions which are too fine to
discern by the human ear but I'd say Lenny is simply a better musician. I
like some of Ethel's cuts but I don't think she's actually that good.
But if you like Ken Griffin, you'll love Ethel.
Buddy Cole records I bought at one point but now I don't unless there's
really nothing else.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) finds and Hawaiian records
Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:05:36 -0400


At 06:31 PM 02/08/98 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Here are other disc-coveries:

And here are the ones that make me jealous:

>Kurt Maier  Around the World  Rondo-lette  A33
>I bought this more for the cover than anything else (7 women wearing
>bathing suits standing in shallow water holding colorful scarfs above their
>heads).

I must have that cover.

>Ruth Welcome  Welcome to Zither Land  Capitol  T 1471
>Ruth Welcome  Zither in 3/4 Time  Capitol  ST 1318

Those two make me jealous... NOT!

>Buddy Merrill Sounds of Love  Accent ACS 5024
>Buddy Merrill The Many Splendored Guitar of Buddy Merrill  Accent  AC 5022

But Buddy Merrill, that totally makes my insides crawl with jealousy.  Even
if the titles of the records are a little scarey.  The one Buddy Merrill
record I have, I think I would put in my top 100 of all time.
And if anyone's making a definitive list of great "exotica" cuts, I'd like
to nominate "Escondido" by the same Mr. Merrill.

>Here are records mentioned on the sleeves that sound interesting to me.
>What do you think?
>
>On Polydor: James Last

I can't believe there's a James Last record worth fantasizing about.  I
ignored them for years but then someone mentioned "Voodoo" and when I saw
it, I bought it... and okay, it's kind of interesting if you like
warmed-over Santana.  It's apparently a bit of a "D.J's" record - owing
mostly to the cut "Giant Man" - and I've been told it's hard to find so
maybe that's a reason to take it if you see it.  It's definitely wilder
than most James Last.
I'm sure someone will write in and identify other decent James Last cuts
but still, all in all, I think you can basically ignore him unless there's
really nothing else to buy.

>Lani Royal  Percussive Pineapples  ML 7516

This record is... okay.  There are really only a few cuts which support the
"percussive" in the title.  The version of "Hawaian War Chant" is the only
cut that's really distinct from your average okay Hawaiian record.

And this brings up a real dilemna for me.  Hawaiian records.

You should have a few I figure.  ("Should" kind of makes me laugh there but..)

I don't buy every Hawaiian record that I see but I can't really explain why
I buy what I buy and reject the others.  The only clear thing I can say is
I buy all the ones with naked women or barely clothed women on the cover.
(But that's true for any genre.)

I've kept about twenty or so and except for the ones that were rejected for
music but accepted for the cover, I got rid of the rest.

I used to think that there was a clear if subtle difference between the
Hawaaian records I kept and the ones I rejected.  But the last time I was
looking for a Hawaaian cut or two for some tapes I was making, whatever I'd
seen in those records that made me keep them in the first place, seemed to
have eluded me.

Does anyone else know what I'm talking about here?  Okay there are a couple
of okay bands or arrangers.  The Surfmen, certain records by Webley Edwards
- but not all - and certain things by Leo Addeo but otherwise, boy are
these records indistinct from each other.

I know some people make the distinction between Hawaiian records recorded
in Hawaii and the vast majority apparently recorded in Nashville but that
difference also seems to elude me.  Sweet Leilani is pretty well Sweet
Leilani whether it's a Nashville session steel player or a "genuine"
Hawaiian musician.

Should I keep buying these or should I give up on the genre?

(Except for the occasional uh.. covers.)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed
Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:54:08 -0400


At 01:04 AM 03/08/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the
>following:
>
>Bert Kaempfurt

A musician like Bert here points up for me a dilemna I always have when
responding to things like this on this list.  (But it doesn't stop me.)

You see, I know that there are some here who seem to keep everything they
buy as long as it's kind of okay.  I know I've bought a bunch of Bert
records over the years but when I go to the shelves to find one to
recommend, there's nothing there.  I must have given them away to friends
of mine who like the same stuff I do except THEY LIKE EVERYTHING.

A guy like Bert Kaempfert, you certainly can't say "Oh he's crap!" because
he isn't crap.  He's a talented arranger and musician blah blah blah.  But
if there is a really extraordinary B.K. record that's actually worth going
out of your way to find, I'll be pleasantly surprised to hear about it.

I think that Bert was working in the same general area as a few guys that I
do like and I can't understand why I almost always keep David Carroll
records - in fact I almost never make a lounge tape without a few of his
cuts - but I apparently never keep Bert Kaempfert records.  For all I know
it was kind of "accidental".

So yeah, no Bert recommendations from this corner.

>Dave Brubeck

I think they're probably all pretty much the same as long as they have Paul
Desmond on them and not Dave's kids, the Brubeck Generation.

Brubeck was sort of jazz for people with no jazz records.  I know some jazz
fans and collectors who see him as nothing less than the Antichrist.

Since I've gotten into lounge, I've given up most of my jazz snobbery.
Hard to be a snob while you're tapping your foot to Lenny Dee.  So I sort
of thought I'd get around to reassessing Brubeck but somehow he still
doesn't make it.  I guess I don't mind fake jazz when there are no
pretensions to real jazz.  But Brubeck still has the pretensions for me.
And the man had no soul.

But Paul Desmond on the other hand, Brubeck's usual reedman.. He was/is a
great musician.  And he can make you tolerate any Brubeck record.

So again, from this corner, they're all pretty much the same. Okay.

>George Shearing

Well first, George has some of the greatest album covers of all time.

I can recommend an early record called "Shearing in Hi Fi" with a wild sort
of psychedelic hi fi cover and surprisingly for George, no babes.
It's got Cal Tjader on vibes and Toots Thieleman (called "Jean" in those
days) on guitar.  It's quite a cool Latinesque record.  In fact this was
the record that made me rethink George who before that, for me, was just
the man with the babe-o-licious covers.

It's an old cliche but I'd say look for "his earlier ones", preferably with
Cal Tjader in the group and preferably with a Latin bent.

>Edmundo Ros
>I realize these artists may have been discussed in the past,

Yes well Edmondo was extensively discussed a few months back not long after
I joined the list and as one of the Edmondo-trashers, I probably should
recuse myself from this discussion.
But I won't.

I've bought well over a dozen Edmondo records and kept four.  Two of the
best are on Phase Four. One of them is the oft-mentioned "Hair Goes Latin"
where he covers the songs from "Hair" and the other one is "Heading South
of the Border" where he does a surprisingly fun cover of "United We Stand".
I think someone else will mention another record on Phase Four called
"Arriba" but I warn you, if you like playing your records all the way
through, don't buy this record.

I'm not going to dredge up the Edmondo vs. Cugat or Edmondo vs.Prado debate
again but let's see if I can make an analogy.
If you loved grunge or alternative music, you might have loved Alice in
Chains too.  If you liked that sound, they had that sound too.

If you like these "pop Latin" records, well Edmondo made them.  And if you
want to have as many as you can find, you'll definitely have some Edmondo
records.

But I strongly suspect that if you'd asked Edmondo himself about his
records versus Cugat's or Prado's, he himself would have said that those
guys were "too way out" for his or his audience's taste.

Just my guess anyway.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Swap meet finds...
Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:54:10 -0400


At 01:04 AM 03/08/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>Okay you thrift scores people:

>Dealer #1:

>TV Action Jazz! - Mundell Lowe ($4)

I don't think I should respond to any more of these lists today but I
thought someone would be interested to know that this record, which I've
bought a few times and which I think is a pretty cool record...

was according to his own account, the first record purchased with his own
money by Lester Bangs.

And if you're now saying "Who?", never mind.

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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) recommendations needed
Date: 03 Aug 1998 11:54:25 +0200


> At 01:04 AM 03/08/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
> >I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the
> >following:
> >
> >Bert Kaempfert

One really nice Kaempfert lp is April in Portugal (Decca, 60's). All
songs have something to do with Portugal, which makes it rather exotic.
Not WILD exotic, but NICE'N'EASY exotic...

> >Edmundo Ros

Well, Edmundo is a bit too 'soft' for me most of the times, but his
album with Ted Heath 'Swing meets latin' (Decca, 1960's) is really
great. It has the orchestra of Ros on one channel and Heath's big band
on the other channel. They play tracks like "Speak low', 'Malaguena' and
the aptly titled "Ted meets Ed'.


Marco K. (listening to an album by Frank Chacksfield...)


visit Record Collector's Heaven, yet another site about Exotica, Space
Age Pop and weird records in general:
http://members.xoom.com/Kallie/index.html


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Subject: (exotica) Recommendations needed
Date: 03 Aug 1998 12:25:58 +0100


Bert Kaempfurt

The one I really like is 'Swinging Safari' from about 1962 or 64.  It
has 'Swinging safari' on it which was used for some sort of TV theme
over here in the UK,  and also 'The happy trumpeter', 'Wimoweh' and
'Zambesi'.  I don't know but these are recommendations for me,  but I
think they might put some people off.

Can't really say much about any of the others,  I have some Edmundo Ros,
and its OK,  one good track an LP,  but nothing I'd really recommend.

As for humming I've got a Slim Gaillard and Slam Stewart tape someone
did for me of stuff that was recorded in the 40's.  Slam Stewart played
double bass and would often play solo's with a bow,  humming and
occasionally groaning along with it.  he had a pretty good sense of what
was in tune though.

Also I recently bought new an LP with only the words Ed Lincoln on the
cover with a picture of about 4 couples dancing in a ballroom shot from
overhead.  There is no information on the sleeve apart from the address
of the record company (in Brazil) and the track listing.  I assume Ed
Lincoln is the artist.  It really is a great LP.  The ,man in the shop
that sold it too me said that it was popular with Dance Jazz DJs.  But
its much more leftfield in a kind of Mambo fashion with Kazoos and some
great organ work on it.  Does anyone know anything about this record,
and more like it?

Il Maestro Con Queso

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming
Date: 03 Aug 1998 07:33:43 -0400


>Keith Jarret must be close to a worst-case scenario, though. He doesn't
>hum -- he whines.

Were that all that he does!  He whines, hums, goes "HA!" amongst other
things.  Seeing him live, he grimaces, smiles and rubs up against the piano
in a manner that I fear will give birth to spinets.




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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What constitutes a
Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:59:50 PDT



No, but there would be a mandatory kick in the privates if you didn't
hop to when one the red-vested militiamen barked "comin' through",
wheeling his cart full of bric-a-brac past you as you squatted by the
records.

>I wonder if there's a mandatory Lord's Prayer at the Salvation Army.
Now you're really scaring me
>into thinking my first experience there was maybe just a lucky
>coincidence...
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)
Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:02:39 +0000


A) I really don't understand this shame of buying in a thrift shop: The
more you buy there the better the shop runs and the better for those who
deserve shopping there. No???

B) Burning ENVY about your Enchnated Tiki Room LP. Unlike Byron I don't
think it'll appear on CD though, because Disney wouldn't bring it out
themselves (they would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't
decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down) and
Disney wouldn't give away the rights to others. I hope I will be
disproven.
The only thing I have in my bag to counter this incredible find is my
tape of the original soundtrack of Tiki Room, that a friend smuggled out
of the magick kingdom...

BTW: What's on the LP exactly?

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming
Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:04:52 +0000


Brian Phillips wrote:

> >Keith Jarret must be close to a worst-case scenario, though. He doesn't
> >hum -- he whines.
>
> Were that all that he does!  He whines, hums, goes "HA!" amongst other
> things.  Seeing him live, he grimaces, smiles and rubs up against the piano
> in a manner that I fear will give birth to spinets.

Did you have to vomit?

MO



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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed
Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:49:12 +0100


>
> Oh my recent shopping trip (see swap meet posts) I picked up a few artists I
> didn't know anything about and was looking for a few others I couldn't find.
> I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the
> following:
>
> Bert Kaempfurt

Kaempfert.

"A Swinging Safari" is the best IMHO; relatively uptempo and energetic
music with swinging flutes and trumpets. And a silly cover. In a
similar style is "Living It Up" which is my favourite, but much harder
to find. Both on Polydor in Europe; may be differently titled and
probably on Decca in the US, so look for the title tracks.

A similar album to Swinging Safari is "Africana" by Horst Wende; a
more outrageous one is "Under African Skies" by Nico Carstens and
Robin Netcher (1,000 times better than the other Carstens album I have).

> Dave Brubeck

"Time Out"/"Time Further Out" are both great.

> George Shearing

No comment.

> Edmundo Ros

"Bongos From The South" and "Dance Again". These are Ros' two most
lively and entertaining albums. UK Decca Phase 4 (or US London Phase
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Subject: (exotica) My first...
Date: 03 Aug 1998 09:02:44 -0400


...Esquivel LP!  "Infinity in Sound" I would have preferred a stereo copy,
however, I gladly got a VG copy for 4 dollars at a record show.  I had to
pass on "Other Worlds, Other Sounds" which was 20 bucks.  Sigh.



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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) mallet-player humming disease
Date: 03 Aug 1998 09:06:42 -0400


For those who are adventurous or in need of a good laugh, locate "Pulse" by
Ronald Shannon Jackson, in which he recites poetry while playing the drums!
 "Into the valley of death ro...(whackita-whack-paradiddle!)".  Much of the
verse comes out as grunting.



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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Gleason Discography
Date: 03 Aug 1998 08:27:27 -0600


Paul Moshay's question about the Gleason discography made me wonder if any
Exoticats knew who shot the photos for two Gleason lp covers.

George Jerman of the Capitol Photo Studio is credited with the moody cover
image on "Champagne, Candlelight and Kisses." But no shooter is named for
the distinctive photos on "Music for Lovers Only" and "Music, Martinis and
Memories."

You all know these photos: Lots of warm violets, reds and golds create "a
wonderfully soft, romantic haze" as the MM&M notes say. They fascinate me
because somber undertones undercut the pretty images. The photos say you're
a little drunk and nursing heartache. Were these Jerman's work too? Paul,
do any of your Gleason lps ID the photographer?

Thanks for the info.
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming
Date: 03 Aug 1998 10:26:13 -0400


>> Were that all that he does!  He whines, hums, goes "HA!" amongst other
>> things.  Seeing him live, he grimaces, smiles and rubs up against the piano
>> in a manner that I fear will give birth to spinets.
>
>Did you have to vomit?

No, but upon seeing that, an exceptionally bright 11 year-old standing next
to me said, with a wonderfully deadpan delivery, "I don't see how a piano
can take that kind of abuse."



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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Question About A Song
Date: 03 Aug 1998 10:46:08 EDT


you may remember when Joni Mitchell sang "Twisted" back in the early to mid
7T's...It was a radio song for a brief period


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From: "Basta Audio Visuals" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Unexpected
Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:05:29 +0200


Anyone knows who are performing at The Unexpected by Raymond Scott ? Please
reply to [e-mail]



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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)
Date: 03 Aug 1998 05:18:43 PDT



>
>A) I really don't understand this shame of buying in a thrift shop: The
>more you buy there the better the shop runs and the better for those
who
>deserve shopping there. No???

Someone deserves to shop there? Just kidding. Again. I was doing my
goatee'd flaneur thing. I'm like a kid in a staph infested candystore
when I'm in a thrift shop.
>
>B) Burning ENVY about your Enchnated Tiki Room LP. Unlike Byron I don't
>think it'll appear on CD though, because Disney wouldn't bring it out
>themselves (they would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't
>decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down)

Now it's for sure. Walt is a (dead) god.


>
>BTW: What's on the LP exactly?
>
>MO
>
More on this when I pick the lp up from my friend's place. My favorite
track is the one on which the tikis come to life to chant and pound the
drums. Neat booklet inside, too.



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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind is Grand -Reply
Date: 03 Aug 1998 08:50:21 -0400


Gionni has gone on and on about these comps., and put a snippet of a past =
conversation in there that I wrote.

Well, I'll have to retract my comments about the "Jungle Exotica" volumes =
1/2 and state that I've been listening to these a LOT and I like the stuff =
on here better than the "Grind" vols.1/2.  Lots of lively, energetic =
arrangements and fun TWISTED stuff like a guy moaning about "Snnnaaaaaakkkk=
essssss" and "Alms for the poor."  Love this stuff.

Go for the "Jungle" and then follow-up with the grind stuff (which is =
inferior I feel, but hey, what the hell do I know - But I DO know which =
end of a CD is UP - hehaha!!!).

As a side note, some of the songs on the "Jungle" comps have been covered =
by Los Straightjackets or on "Eddie Angel's Guitar Party" (the guitarist =
for the Straightjackets - he's in about a million bands.....)

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Question About A Song
Date: 03 Aug 1998 11:06:56 -0400


>you may remember when Joni Mitchell sang "Twisted"

In addition to the most-excellent diva Joni version, did not Crystal Waters
also cover this tune on her first record (or, the one with that
mind-numbing " ... and she's homeless ..." on it)?





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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) From a Soul Page (About Mitch Ryder...)
Date: 03 Aug 1998 11:31:42 -0400


The author's opinion, not mine.
<http://whusfm.saup.uconn.edu/SoulExpress/soulbio.html#ryder>http://whusfm.
saup.uconn.edu/SoulExpress/soulbio.html#ryder

Crewe had big plans--wretchedly excessive plans as the What Now My Love album,
released in mid-1967, may be the most godawful piece of overblown dreck ever
associated with a major artist. Divorced from the powerdrive of The Wheels,
swamped by saccharine strings and pompous pretense (poetry by Rod McKuen and
music by Jaques Brel on a Mitch Ryder album?!?), the fact that Ryder somehow
got the title track up to #30 might rank as the most amazing feat of his
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)
Date: 03 Aug 1998 10:17:31 -0600



>B) Burning ENVY about your Enchnated Tiki Room LP. Unlike Byron I don't
>think it'll appear on CD though, because Disney wouldn't bring it out
>themselves (they would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't
>decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down) and
>Disney wouldn't give away the rights to others. I hope I will be
>disproven.
>The only thing I have in my bag to counter this incredible find is my
>tape of the original soundtrack of Tiki Room, that a friend smuggled out
>of the magick kingdom...
>
>BTW: What's on the LP exactly?

What is on your friends tape is what is on the LP. It has a colour booklet
and the Jungle Cruise ride is on the other side. It is a word for word
script including all songs from the Tiki Room experience. I know a lot of
folks who want this, but I felt pretty good about finding my copy in very
good-excellent shape for $1 at (surprise, surprise!) a THRIFT STORE in
Miami. Usually children's LPs are totally destroyed, but this one sounds
pretty rockin. The track with the cool drums in the "Hawaiian War Chant" by
the tiki gods. It is well scary. A fave of mine to play out.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) new reviews in motion
Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:39:48 +0200


dan hill <[e-mail]> wrote:

>    new reviews:
>
>    Bomb 20 - Field Manual (DHR)
>    The Dick Zved Show - Bytes (no label)
>    Various Artists - Curtom Superpeople II (Charly)
>    Fridge - Semaphore (Output)
>    Jack and Jill - Fancy Birdhouse (Magnetic)
>    Anthony Braxton - Compositions No.10 & No.16 (+101) (hat [now]ART)
>    Howard,Hayward,Frith,Laswell - Meridiem (Materiali Sonori)
>
>    http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/
>
>thanks, and apologies for cross-postings

    "apologies for cross-postings"? yeah, sure...
    Dan, could you _please_ filter out the non-exotic/lounge/EZ entries?
    i've been visiting your site, only to discover that few of the
    mentioned reviews are relevant to this list. the above list doesn't
    contain even 1...

        Johan


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight?
Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:11:31 EDT


In a message dated 98-07-30 09:09:49 EDT, a waxing poetic exoticat wrote

<< People are a rainbow of colors just as exotica is a rainbow of sounds >>

OK, let's all join hands and sing "We Are the World"



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Subject: Re: (exotica) URL's - they already out there
Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:17:03 EDT



<< Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated would be ongoing work, any
 volunteers for that one? >>

tons or url's a Vik's Lounge and every other (mildly related) exotica page


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: highway hi-fi
Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:19:27 EDT


In a message dated 98-07-30 11:33:26 EDT, you write:

<< "Hey, vinyl fanatics, have you ever wished you could listen to your
 records while cruising in your car? >>

mopar pushed his accessory in the late 50's and early 60's.  some were built
in.

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Subject: (exotica) If only I had a needle and could hum
Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:33:06 EDT


In a message dated 98-07-31 10:16:42 EDT, you write:

<< What caught me by surprise was that
 there was a distinct barking in the background throughout the entire tape
 -- I kid you not!  I presume that Jesse the Dalamation's barking was strong
 enough to vibrate the phono needle and record it to tape >>

i remember yelling at a phono needle when i was a kid and you could sorta hear
something on the tape i was recording.

and on that humming thread.  what if you put the whole end of the control
arm/needle in your mouth and hummed?  would it record the hum on the tape?  i
bet it would. any takers?

robert


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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind is Grand -Reply -Reply
Date: 03 Aug 1998 11:38:07 -0400


Me again - forgot to mention that the 5,6,7,8's also do a couple of songs =
(well,okay, ONE) from the "Jungle" comp. =20

DAMN!  Ain't he smart?

- Nate


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Subject: (exotica) Denny's Village Rundown
Date: 03 Aug 1998 12:03:17 -0500


Here's an excerpt from the latest Tower E-pulse. Can anyone shed light on
the line (see Subject: above) that caught my eye?

-Lou


epulse 4.30 [suicide]
^^^ ^^^ ^^^
--- CONTENTS / July 31, 1998
>>> Welcome back to epulse, the musically omnivorous weekly
ezine of Pulse! magazine
1. flashback of the week:
     God bless GALACTIC. Following an aesthetic something akin to that of
classical music's period-instrument movement, this New Orleans-based funk
group eschews any perceived advances made in the genre for the last 25
years. None of the concessions to the commercialism that de-clawed funk in
the late '70s and early '80s -- processed guitars and keyboards,
programmed beats, disco -- mar the band's second album, 'CRAZYHORSE
MONGOOSE' (Capricorn, 9/1). Instead, this six-piece plays the kinds of
beats and grooves smart hip-hop acts have been relying on for the last
decade. Opening track "Hamps Hump" swings thick and fat, with brass
croaking, Hammond B-3 churning and drums syncopated Big Easy style.
Jazzier and more formal than James Brown or Funkadelic, harder hitting
than the Meters (an easy comparison), Galactic also has a penchant for
songwriting, led by vocalist Theryl "Houseman" deClouet. DeClouet, a
contemporary of a pre-recording Neville Brothers, shines on "Start From
Scratch," "Change My Ways (Pts. 1 & 2)" and "Love on the Run," his smoky,
understated style adding a hard-earned authenticity to lyrics about
troubled love and life. On other cuts--"Meter Maid," drummer Stanton
Moore's showcase "Denny's Village Rundown," "Witch Doctor," the title
track--the instrumentalists vamp like mad, always in service to the whole,
never bowing to ego. A band with this much feel and spontaneity on disc
must practically move the earth in performance; word is, the crew *has*
been packing them in on the club scene at home, as well as in New York and
San Francisco, on the strength of its fine debut, '96's 'Coolin' Off'
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From: dan hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) new reviews in motion
Date: 03 Aug 1998 18:52:10 +0100


>    "apologies for cross-postings"? yeah, sure...
>    Dan, could you _please_ filter out the non-exotic/lounge/EZ entries?
>    i've been visiting your site, only to discover that few of the
>    mentioned reviews are relevant to this list. the above list doesn't
>    contain even 1...

sorry johan (and others)

we're working on an automated way of doing this so that only appropriate
reviews are ever mailed to the lists ... we've been finding that people on
specialist lists are often more interested in music in general, and are
into lots of different genres, styles, periods etc. - which is part of the
rationale behind our site ...

however, i completely understand the importance of keeping things relevant
to the list, so i'll filter out anything "non-exotic" in future ...

sorry once again.

cheers,
dan.


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    ---+ new reviews on motion [31.7.98]:
< bomb 20; the dick zved show; curtom superpeople II; fridge; anthony
braxton; howard, hayward, frith, laswell; jewish alternative movement >
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed
Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:02:17 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-03 08:51:05 EDT, Peter wrote:

<< "A Swinging Safari" is the best IMHO >>

I always play this when I go on "safari" (i.e.  thrifting, antiqueing,
junking).  I also have a little tiki god that goes on the dash for these
journeys.

robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) new reviews in motion
Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:39:48 +0200


dan hill <[e-mail]> wrote:

>    new reviews:
>
>    Bomb 20 - Field Manual (DHR)
>    The Dick Zved Show - Bytes (no label)
>    Various Artists - Curtom Superpeople II (Charly)
>    Fridge - Semaphore (Output)
>    Jack and Jill - Fancy Birdhouse (Magnetic)
>    Anthony Braxton - Compositions No.10 & No.16 (+101) (hat [now]ART)
>    Howard,Hayward,Frith,Laswell - Meridiem (Materiali Sonori)
>
>    http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/
>
>thanks, and apologies for cross-postings

    "apologies for cross-postings"? yeah, sure...
    Dan, could you _please_ filter out the non-exotic/lounge/EZ entries?
    i've been visiting your site, only to discover that few of the
    mentioned reviews are relevant to this list. the above list doesn't
    contain even 1...

        Johan


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Shari Lewis obit
Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:07:41 -0500


    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Puppeteer Shari Lewis, the children's entertainer who
charmed youngsters for decades with furry sidekicks Lamb Chop, Charlie Horse
and Hush Puppy, died of cancer, her publicist said today. She was 65.
    Miss Lewis, diagnosed with uterine cancer in June, was undergoing
chemotherapy treatments when she developed pneumonia and died Sunday at
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, spokeswoman Maggie Begley said.
    The Emmy Award-winning ventriloquist began cancer treatments six weeks ago
and cut short production in Vancouver on her latest PBS children's series,
``The Charlie Horse Music Pizza.''
    Miss Lewis won 12 Emmys, including five for her last PBS series, ``Lamb
Chop's Play-Along.''
    ``The Charlie Horse Music Pizza'' was billed by the entertainer as an
educational ``Cheers'' for children that focused on music. The show
premiered Jan. 5 on PBS.

(Who's next? Cap'n Kangaroo??) --LS)




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Subject: (exotica) tiki room and "music to mow by"
Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:07:25 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-03 11:07:40 EDT, you write:

<< More on this when I pick the lp up from my friend's place. My favorite
 track is the one on which the tikis come to life to chant and pound the
 drums. Neat booklet inside, too. >>

i think one of the songs that they chant to is the Hawaiian War Chant.  also,
i love when the spanish parrot says "It cjoe time" and the lyrics later say
"where the birds know the words and the flowers croon . . .in the tiki, tiki,
tiki, tiki, tiki room".

this is gunna sound crazy but i listen to my CD's/cassettes while cutting my
grass on a riding lawn mower.  my disney world cd is one of my favorite CD's
to "mow by"

robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...
Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:15:45 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-01 22:29:43 EDT, Brian wrote:

<< To have to see
 the misery on the faces of the people that HAVE to shop there really
 doesn't do a whole lot for me. >>

I hate to say it but Brian is on the mark on that one.  It is
interesting/humbling/whatever to see some of these people that lead such a
meager existence.

And while the above has never made me now want to go thrifting it has made me
think.


robert


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:02:33 UT


What you can find in thrifts all depends on how often you go and how vigilant
you are.  I thrift once every 8 months, about.  What am I going to find?
Esquivel?  Command?  Maybe, you never know.  But probably not.  Mostly I'll find
a couple of interesting albums.  But most likely, nothing like "Man from ORGAN"
or "Movin and Groovin" unless I'm extremely lucky.
But there are people who have found this stuff.  How?  When?  I imagine, they
hit the thrifts religiously.  And their score count is probably a little higher
than mine on average, but I bet we're really about the same.  They just go more
often.

Me, I can afford an expensive album every once in a while.  I just got Hyman's
Man from ORGAN for ten bucks, near mint.  That's a lot to pay for a record, but
if I've never got the time for thrifting, when am I going to find that for fifty
cents?  If I want it, that's what I'll have to pay.
Plus, it's in good condition.
What a tragedy if I ever ran across Movin and Groovin and it was shot to shit.
I don't know if I could handle that.

Still, I do like the hunt, so I go when I can squeeze out there and look for
some stuff.  I figure, you never know what you'll find.  And it's fun.  And you
get lots of stuff that you WEREN'T looking for, but looked interesting.
For example, Dick Schory's Brass and Percussion with the cut-out sleeve (but no
rad inner lining.  :(  ) or a copy of "Instrumental TNT" with Preston Epps Bongo
Fury on it.  Who knew at the time?  But it sure looked cool.

So that's why I still thrift when I can.  And pay when I can't.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Twisted
Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:08:14 UT


Lambert, Hendricks and Ross did "covers" of jazz standards, with Hendricks
adding vocal parts to match note for note the solos of the popular recordings.
So you may have heard the original Jazz version of Twisted, which I dont know
who did it.  But it might be in the liners.

Peter


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From: [e-mail] (Desmond K. Hill)
Subject: (exotica) __chasing..pur._chasing__.+ps+pps
Date: 03 Aug 1998 19:24:44 +0000


can anyone assist in my search to uncover a reasonably priced vinyl copy of
Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise?

Pls. reply off-list.  Thank you.

d e s

__ps._  if you haven't bought it by now, you really should locate a copy of

        Perrey et Chazam's illustrious 'e c l e k t r o n i c s' lp ASAP.
it is
        incredible.  but don't believe me, go check it for yourselves.. :)

_pps.._ whilst on the subject of moogs, can anyone recommend non-cover
version
        releases by the moog cookbook, & are these USA-only releases?




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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha #2 playlist
Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:27:52 +0100


For those of you whoo might be vaguely, here is
the playlist for "Moon Base Alpha" #2 (upstairs
at the club Radio Babylon) Saturday 1 August
1998 (as before, the exact sequence is somewhat
hazy):

Dick Hyman - Moon Gas (Moon Gas)
Dick Hyman - Fiddler on the Roof (Keyboard
Kaleidoscope)
Enoch Light Singers - Born to Be Wild (Whoever
You Are, I Love You)
Enoch Light - Marrakesh Express (Permissive
Polyphonics)
Big Jim Sullivan - Sunshine Superman (In Flight
#2)
Edmundo Ros - Melodie d'Amour (Vaba-Ba-Boom)
High Llamas - Glide Time (Cold and Bouncy)
Cal Tjader - Leyte (Breeze from the East)
Les Baxter - Voodoo Dreams (Exotic Moods)
Barry Adamson - Jazz Devil (As Above So Below)
Free Design - Bubbles (Bubbles)
Moog Cookbook - Hotel California (Ye Olde Space
Bande)
Perrey & Kingsley - One Note Samba/Spanish Flea
(Kaleidoscopic Vibrations)

Next Moon Base Alpha Saturday October 3rd.


DJ Bongo Boy


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  Re:  (exotica) Question About A Song
Date: 03 Aug 1998 15:28:51 EDT


you mean the same mind-numbing "She's Homeless" as covered by Montefiori
Cocktail?


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Galactic
Date: 03 Aug 1998 12:25:43 -0700 (PDT)


Lou::

I've seen Galactica live a few times in the last year or so.  Most
recently I saw them at the Jazz Fest here in New Orleans.  The article
describes them preyty well. Their sound can vary in a single set from
straight get down 70's funk to funky world jazz sounds.  The band does
great vocals on some great way out there cool ballads.  My freinds & I
find the band hard to predict.

Also thank you for all the many varied links.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck

---Lou Smith  wrote:

> Here's an excerpt from the latest Tower E-pulse. Can anyone shed
light on the line (see Subject: above) that caught my eye?
>
> -Lou
 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 09:57:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: E-Pulse Mag Mailing List <[e-mail]>
> epulse 4.30 [suicide]
> ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
> --- CONTENTS / July 31, 1998
> >>> Welcome back to epulse, the musically omnivorous weekly
> ezine of Pulse! magazine
> 1. flashback of the week:
>      God bless GALACTIC. Following an aesthetic something akin to
that of
> classical music's period-instrument movement, this New Orleans-based
funk group eschews any perceived advances made in the genre for the
last 25
> years. None of the concessions to the commercialism that de-clawed
funk in
> the late '70s and early '80s --
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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 03 Aug 1998 12:20:53 -0700



> What a tragedy if I ever ran across Movin and Groovin and it was shot to
shit.
> I don't know if I could handle that.
>
You just said a mouthful, matey.... Finding a killer record beat to pieces
can affect me for days. It happens more than I would care to admit.

There have been some similar posts saying the same thing. Some folks
have been reporting their experiences with these atrocities. It helps to
talk
about these things. Just be patient. The hurt will go away eventually.

Be strong.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: URL's - they already out there
Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:52:33 -0500 (CDT)


><< Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated would be ongoing work, any
> volunteers for that one? >>


i try really hard:

http://www.tamboo.com/loungelinks.html




visit...

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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed
Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:59:43 +0100


>At 01:04 AM 03/08/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>>I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the
>>following:
>>
>>Bert Kaempfurt

A bit of trivia for you about the late Bert K.  As an A&R man for Polydor
in the
very early 60's, he worked on the first Beatles records prior to them
signing for
Parlophone (USA-Capitol) and hitting the big time.  'A swinging safari' is
pretty good, although the cover picture in which the jungle is represented by
a potted plant is distinctly silly.

Paul Desmond, delicate sax player for Dave Brubeck, is also long departed from
this earth.  As for George Shearing's racy album covers, this might have
been more
a marketing man's decision, rather than the blind pianist himself.


HP


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Salvation Army Shops
Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:59:45 +0100


There have been some interesting thoughts set down
here this last week about the possibility of receiving
some serious evangelism while thrifting at Salvation
Army shops....evangelism to the point of pressing one
from one's normal way of life into the service of the
church, never to be seen again...

Thinks:
- Jessica used to go to thrifts a lot
- Jessica has vanished from these pages
Can this mean....?  Oh no,  oh no, no, no.....   (sob).

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Record bargain locations/Kaempfert
Date: 04 Jul 1998 17:14:19 -0400


Sometimes record bargains appear where you wouldn't expect to find
records.  On Friday, A friend dragged me downstairs to the $5 bargain
cellar in some vintage clothing store.  I was surprised to see 5 boxes of
records.  Picked up a few nice things for a buck.

The best one was '101 strings play the trendsetters of the 60s'.  It
looks great (cartoon drawings of the beatles, killer joe from the
discotheque albums etc) and is great.  In particular, the version of
'hard days night' rocks.

On the subject of Bert Kaempfert, for some reason I never found a
european polydor album which I liked.  Swingin' safari was probably the
best one, but even that seemed a bit weedy.  By contrast, the US decca
LPs I've bought have a better, meatier sound.  'Afrikaan beat' and 'love
that...' come to mind.

regards
Jonny

regards

Jonny

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Room LP +
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:57:39 +0000


> >BTW: What's on the LP exactly?

Jill:

> What is on your friends tape is what is on the LP. It has a colour book=
let
> and the Jungle Cruise ride is on the other side. It is a word for word
> script including all songs from the Tiki Room experience. I know a lot =
of
> folks who want this, but I felt pretty good about finding my copy in ve=
ry
> good-excellent shape for $1 at (surprise, surprise!) a THRIFT STORE in
> Miami. Usually children's LPs are totally destroyed, but this one sound=
s
> pretty rockin. The track with the cool drums in the "Hawaiian War Chant=
" by
> the tiki gods. It is well scary. A fave of mine to play out.

Does it also have the voices of the vulcano gods etc. from the waiting ar=
ea?
You should bring it anyway, since you might want to play it. Didn't you s=
ay
you will be DJing? When and where? BTW: One date on the PopKomm is def
already: Friday evening we should meet at the Gloria for Sushi 4004, with
Yasuharu Konishi of Pizzicato and others. On Saturday it's the Apollo fea=
t.
Schlammpeiziger (a young electronician who works in the footsteps of such
D=FCsseldorf veterans as Harmonia, Michael Rother or Riechmann, really cu=
te) and
Dorau playing one (!) song.
What else? On Thursday I see Steve Silk Hurley at the Neptunbad... I migh=
t
want to see that. And on sunday I'll be glad to drive back to my quiet li=
ttle
hometown Munich...

MO*



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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Humming & other noises
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:57:54 +0000


> << What caught me by surprise was that
>  there was a distinct barking in the background throughout the entire tape
>  -- I kid you not!  I presume that Jesse the Dalamation's barking was strong
>  enough to vibrate the phono needle and record it to tape >>
>
> i remember yelling at a phono needle when i was a kid and you could sorta hear
> something on the tape i was recording.

Somebody mentioned this record that was obviously homemade and you can hear a lot
of background noises and at one point you can actually hear his wife saying "Oh,
are you recording?" I loved that story. Who was that again? I think I read it
somewhere in "Incredible strange music"...

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Room LP
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:58:10 +0000


Jill Mingo wrote:

> Mo,
>
> It is the exact soundtrack to the Tiki Room experience. All the songs, the
> words - everything. It comes with a booklet. I have it. Mine isn't very
> crackly either. I can bring it to PopKomm if you are desperate to see it,
> but there is not much chance of me selling it unless someone offered me
> something I couldn't resist...

At least I have the "It's a small world" LP.

MO*



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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:58:25 +0000


> >A) I really don't understand this shame of buying in a thrift shop: The
> >more you buy there the better the shop runs and the better for those
> >who deserve shopping there. No???
>
> Someone deserves to shop there? Just kidding. Again. I was doing my
> goatee'd flaneur thing. I'm like a kid in a staph infested candystore
> when I'm in a thrift shop.
>
Scheisse! Wrong word. What I wanted to say was "...depend on
shopping...". Mercy!

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fantastic Plastic Machine
Date: 03 Aug 1998 15:04:11 -0700 (PDT)


I just purchased Fantastic Plastic Machine by the Fantastic Plastic
Machine released this year on Bungalow records out of Germany.  It was
originally released last year in Japan and will be released later this
year on Emperor Norton Records in the USA.

The music is full of great easy melodies, with male & female vocals
and some instrumentals.  The sound is like the Gentle People with a
dance beat or P5 in their easier moments.

I purchased the cd from Tom at Other Music :
http://www.interactive.net/~tomc
or [phone]
I know Tom at Other Music sells exotica to purchasers from around the
world  by email and phone.

The main mover behind  the Fantastic Plastic Machine is Tomoyuki
Tanaka one cool exoticat from looking at his picture.  I understand
that he has an enormous record coleetion and draws his inspiration for
this cool music from a variety of musical styles.

Record collecting has been partly reponsible for lots of bands
forming, for example Brian Jones & Mick & Kieth Richards got together
because they liked each others records before forming the Rolling
Sones.  I believe records also caused John & Paul to start hanging out
together.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck

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Subject: (exotica) Saving Jessica
Date: 03 Aug 1998 18:00:22 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-03 16:04:01 EDT, you write:

<< Thinks:
 - Jessica used to go to thrifts a lot
 - Jessica has vanished from these pages
 Can this mean....?  Oh no,  oh no, no, no.....   (sob).
  >>

I think a big stack of records (that she has been "finding") these last few
years fell on her.  At least she went with a smile on her face.

Of course, now on the Emergency Technician Mailing List some bastard is
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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: tiki room and
Date: 03 Aug 1998 15:14:48 PDT




>From: <[e-mail]>
>Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:07:25 EDT
>To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>Subject: tiki room and "music to mow by"
>
>In a message dated 98-08-03 11:07:40 EDT, you write:
>
><< More on this when I pick the lp up from my friend's place. My
favorite
> track is the one on which the tikis come to life to chant and pound
the
> drums. Neat booklet inside, too. >>
>
>i think one of the songs that they chant to is the Hawaiian War Chant.

Yes! That is the song (I gotta get my new turnable operational this
weekend).

also,
>i love when the spanish parrot says "It cjoe time" and the lyrics later
say
>"where the birds know the words and the flowers croon . . .in the tiki,
tiki,
>tiki, tiki, tiki room".

Yes! This one had us laughing pretty hard ... I also love all the dopey
puns the narrator delivers during the course of the jungle cruise (which
seems to move from the Amazon to Malaysia to the Congo and back to chez
tiki in the course of 20 minutes, if I recall correctly).

>this is gunna sound crazy but i listen to my CD's/cassettes while
cutting my
>grass on a riding lawn mower.  my disney world cd

Is the one Byron had mentioned - only a few tiki room tracks?
is one of my favorite CD's
>to "mow by"

That sounds like a great name for my next comp. tape "Music to Tidy up
the Yard By."

Best,

Ben

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From: "paul m." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) DMQ Thursday Night at the Showbox
Date: 03 Aug 1998 16:36:37 -0800


>Once in a mortal's lifetime, an event comes along so stupendous, so
>spectacular, so life-affirming that mere words fail to describe its
>magnitude.  Well, while you're waiting for that event, please come see our
>next show, which is a dandy!
>
>THURSDAY, AUGUST 6TH
>THE SHOWBOX
>The pop-lounge magic that is THE DUDLEY MANLOVE QUARTET
>The exotic Latino heartbeat of Portland's PINK MARTINI
>The boss Mambo stylings of THE MAMBO NINE RADIO ORCHESTRA (featuring Craig
>and Steve of DMQ)
>
>Tickets are $8 at the door, and can be purchased in advance through
>Ticketmaster or at the Showbox.
>Doors open at 9pm.
>
>*****************
>
>Thanks to all of you who entered our DMQ Karaoke Quiz contest.  Five
>lyrical geniuses were able to name all 40 songs and their respective
>artists.  Sadly, there can only be one winner, so we at DMQ, through a
>complicated process involving calculus, Jungian philosophy, and a heated
>Rock'em Sock'em Robots tournament, have picked a winner:
>ANGELA KEENE!
>
>Angela has won two free passes to the Thursday, August 6th show at the
>Showbox. Congrats, Angela!
>The other 4 who aced our quiz:  Janelle Cross, Heather Dolan, Tyler Miller
>and Matt Balint.  Way to go!
>
>*****************
>
>DMQ is proud to announce the grand opening of CLUB DUDLEY -- the swankiest
>hotspot on the Internet strip.  No cover charge, no drink minimum, no
>dress code.  Yes indeed, thanks to the computer wizardry of Craig Corvin
>and Steve Okimoto, and the graphical genius of Dave Jolosky, our fair
>website has received a major makeover.  Some of the fine new features in
>Club Dudley:
>* The Bar -- come in, have a drink, and chat with other DMQ fans (maybe
>even members of DMQ themselves)
>* The Backstage -- you have an all-access pass, so use it!  Check out
>photos of DMQ at work and play, fun facts about the band, and other juicy
>tidbits regarding the world's foremost six-man quartet.
>Plus, all the regular features:  a weekly calendar of shows, booking
>information, the DMQ Top 40, and more, much more!
>
>Same catchy URL as before:  http://www.dudleymanlove.com
>

paul moshay/mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FAQ progress
Date: 03 Aug 1998 21:39:00 -0400


> [Disney] would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't
>decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down

Good Thinking, Walt! After they thaw him out, what better way to ease back
into things than with a Mai Tai and a polynesian floor show?



OK, the FAQ continues to percolate along behind the scenes; I'll post the
compete version within a day or two for your further comments. But so far:

I've revised the language of a few sections where people had specific
objections; I think answering people's comments without totally reversing
what I had said. . .

I tend to agree that other people are already doing a better job than I
could, keeping URL lists up-to-date. So I will probably limit it to some
essentials (like Brad's Space Age Pop site) and then link to other people's
pages of links.

I have culled some book recommendeations out of my saved digests, but feel
a little funny just parroting book titles I've never heard of. I'd be
grateful if anyone cares to send me the (exact) titles of the books they
find most useful.

Only a couple of people sent me "top ten artist" lists. So instead I
cobbled together a very loose list of "what kinds of records might a
beginner look out for?", which mentions artists, labels, and particular
genres. I apologize that the current list it pretty biased towards my own
collection (HiFi, percussion, Latin); I encourage people who are stronger
on soundtracks, the 60s, "Now Sound," etc. to please send  additions. Here
it is:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Q: If someone were just beginning to search for exotica records, what would
be some good things to look out for?

A: Though such a list is bound to be incomplete and disputable, here are
some suggestions:

  * Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman LPs

  * Juan Garcia Esquivel LPs (rare today)

  * Glossy albums (often gatefold) on "Hi-Fi" labels like Command,
    Phase Four, Mercury "Perfect Presence," Time, Audio Fidelity,
    Directional Sound, etc.

  * Albums with "Percussion" in the title

  * Latin music as performed by American or European studio musicians

  * RCA's "Stereo Action" Series (thick, white, die-cut covers)

  * Early Ferrante and Teicher (with prepared piano)

  * The Three Suns RCA "Living Stereo" LPs

  * Electric organ virtuosos (Lenny Dee, Dick Hyman, etc.)

  * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord or harp

  * Inappropriate cover versions ("Light My Fire" on pipe organ, etc.)

  * Hawaiian music as performed by non-Hawaiians

  * Albums showcasing moog synthesizer

  * "Now Sound" LPs (Brass Ring, etc.)

  * Albums with "discotheque" or "au go-go" in the title

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yours in HiFi,

 --Ross

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Subject: Re: (exotica) FAQ progress
Date: 03 Aug 1998 21:44:27 EDT


In a message dated 8/3/98 9:40:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord or harp
I would add *or sitar*.

You're doing a great job with the FAQ.
Thanks.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Shari Lewis obit
Date: 03 Aug 1998 17:54:04 +0000


At 02:07 PM 8/3/98 -0500, Lou wrote:
>    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Puppeteer Shari Lewis, the children's entertainer who
>charmed youngsters for decades with furry sidekicks Lamb Chop, Charlie Horse
>and Hush Puppy, died of cancer, her publicist said today. She was 65.

Lou, Thanks for tossing that in!

One of the best parts of The Mr. Smooth Show Christmas program last year was
a little thing she did on, I believe, a Columbia LP. Such fun! I was always
amazed how fresh and vital her material was and how active she stayed doing
what she did so well.

When people say how bad the media has become (too liberal, too
conservative, too commercial, too radical, too violent):  I bring up people
such as Shari Lewis and broadcast outlets that made her performances
possible.  There continues to be good, fun stuff on radio and TV, but only
thanks to the inspiration of people like Shari Lewis.

Byron

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation
Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:02:36 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-02 23:15:49 EDT, you write:

<< Disney seems to be on a program of reissuing
 everything it ever did again and again.  >>

This has always been the marvelous (or dubious -- you take your pick) thing
about the Disney machine.  About every 7 years they have a new audience to
target and that audience will (hopefully by the stockholders bets) stay with
them for life.  To them Bambi, Pinnochio, etc. are "new".

Disney never really creates a new formula to attract un-targeted audiences.
It just waits for the new audience to be born, learn to speak and say
"Mickey".

I find it interesting that the Disney "backlash" has only happened in the last
4 or 5 years.  Before that no one ever said anything bad about Disney.

There was a book (that hopefully someone out there knows the title of) which
described the dubious Disney formula.

Interesting note:  the excerpts I have read are usually in business/stock
publications telling others how to make the formula work for them.

Ironic note:  I went to Disney World about a year ago, spent and ass load of
money and can't wait until my son (age 1) is old enough to go.

Damn -- that formula really works.

Candidly,

Robert


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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ethel Smith finds
Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:22:35 -0500


A timely request for Ethel Smith information.

I just picked up three more or her LPs making my total of her records 15!
And I'm still missing 5.

The comparisons to Dee are not off the mark since they both made regular
apperances on television and evidently both had a sort of organ-comic
routine.

Their playing styles are quite different. Where Dee's playing can be more
wacky many of Smith's arrangements and song selections are stronger.

Latin rhythms were Ethel Smith's forte and I would recommend her albums
"Dance to the Latin Rhythms of..", "Latin In Manhattan", and the
Cha-Cha-Cha album all on Decca.

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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed
Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:22:37 -0500


 I concur with  most responses that the Swinging Safari album is probably
the one to get for old Bert, but I have similar feelings to Nat:

>A guy like Bert Kaempfert, you certainly can't say "Oh he's crap!" because
>he isn't crap.  He's a talented arranger and musician blah blah blah.  But
>if there is a really extraordinary B.K. record that's actually worth going
>out of your way to find, I'll be pleasantly surprised to hear about it.

I think the key word here is 'extraordinary'. I agree that Bert's
arrangement never quite get beyond ordinary but, at the same time albums
such as the aforementioned Swinging Safari are hardly saccharine. They
can be fun just not 'extra-ordinarily' so.It could be that it's an
acquired taste, so to speak. For instance after listening to all the
zany, bombastic, extreme arrangements of the much spoke of exotica canon
a subtle Kaempfert touch just may hit the spot.

So in short, in my four tier Vinyl Recliner ratings of Essential/Highly
Recommended/Very Good/Good I would rank Swinging Safari as a very good.

Frank


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Disney Music URL and Search Engine
Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:27:40 EDT



Here is an "official" (whatever that means) Disney music site where CD's can
be ordered:

http://www.iaw.on.ca/~wschwart/disney/albums/154.htm

the URL above has the CD I have but you can work back to their HOME to run
search engines, etc.

My engine for song titles with the work "tiki" in them gave 14 hits meaning
there are 14 albums that have the tiki room show song.  I have not checked
them all out but will post back to the list with any I think notable.

Robert


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con
Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:38:49 -0400


I specifically wanted a "Thrift Wars" entry in the FAQ because it's one of
those threads that can go around and around for months, with one side never
convincing the other. It really does all depend on where you live and what
your time is worth.

I'm sorry some people find the environment of thrifts depressing; it's
never particularly bothered me. But regarding this undercurrent of "those
stores aren't for people like me, they are for sad little people who really
need them," I must protest.

First, I'm sure if you asked, the management of these places would say
they're quite happy to have anyone come in and buy things--because that is
their source of income, to continue whatever charitable work they're
supposedly doing.

When a record gets donated to a thrift store, someone has decided it has
ZERO value, and given it away. At this point, it is either going to get
sold to someone who attaches a higher value to it, or it will end up in the
trash. Isn't it preferable that the record ends up with someone who
appreciates it?

If I buy a Three Suns record at a thrift store, I simply refuse to believe
that I'm taking something of value away from a more deserving person.

When "actual poor people" shop at a thrift, their motives are completely
different from mine: They are attempting to buy into a plausible modern,
middle-class lifestyle, within the limits of their budget. Meanwhile, *I*
am trying to buy things that have gone so completely out of style that they
have bottomed out, and perhaps are on the upswing of coolness again. (This
is basic "Rubbish Theory," as defined by British anthropologist Michael
Thompson.) So there is really not much overlap to the kinds of things we
are looking for.

This is all discussed rather thoroughly in Al Hoff's _Thrift Score_ book.

So--leaving aside all questions of time, grunginess, etc.--I say, Thrift Ho!


reaching for those moist towelettes,

 --Ross

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A Lyman Oddity
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:10:39 -0400


Jeez after all these boring posts I figure I should make some feeble
attempt to say something about RECORDS. . .

I recently came across a weird version of Arthur Lyman's _Yellow Bird_ LP.
HiFi Records had renamed it _Percussion Spectacular!_ (using the original
Lava photo and type style); they turned it into a gatefold too. The inner
jacket faces had this huge tweako blurb about all the equipment used, with
eleven(!) closeups of cutting lathes and so on. It even listed the prices
for all the equipment!

As far as I can tell, the vinyl itself is identical to _Yellow Bird_ (same
catalog number too). So, do you Lyman fans know, was this just a brief
attempt to cash in on the "Persuasive Percussion" fad? It all seemed a
little desperate to me. . .

Cheers,

 --Ross

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:11:01 -0400


I just saw a 3-CD set of of Jobim's work, on Verve - it appears to be a
tribute to him, with all sorts of different artists covering his
material.  The packaging looked incredible, but it was sealed, and there
are no track or artist listings on the outside - just a few names and
titles.  Does anyone know anything about this set, and is is worthwhile?
Or is it Jobim overkill?

cheryl


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:36:39 -0400


> I find it interesting that the Disney "backlash" has only happened in
the last
> 4 or 5 years.  Before that no one ever said anything bad about
Disney.

Not so. Ron Goulart's book, "The Assault On Childhood", with its long
and interesting chapter on the Disney machine was published around the
late 60s or early 70s. And it includes earlier quotes from others --
Disney skepticism is nothing new. Of course the Disney cross-marketing
push was already established in the 30s, so that's nothing new either.

Not that *I'm* saying anything bad about them, heh. After all, they are
ranked as one of the most litigious corporations in the world.

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Subject: (exotica) Exotica Summit adjustment
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:52:07 EDT


A last minute adjustment to the earlier (last week) message I sent regarding a
meeting at The Tonga Room in San Francisco

Otto & Alan of Tiki News & Lift Off Productions, respectively, are holding
monthly meeting the first Wednesday of each month from 6 - 8 pm at the Tonga
Room in the Fairmont Hotel at Powell and Mason atop Nob Hill, SF
At these meetings we will discuss future surf/Lounge/Exotica shows that we
will be throwing and we will be looking for assistants/volunteers, bands,
entertainers who wish to participate.
(Alan also does a radio show on KALX)

EXCEPT this Wednesday's meeting (Aug 5) will be cut short due to the just
announced grand opening of the Bamboo Hut.  The Tonga Room meeting will be
from 6 sharp til 7 pm and then we will all head over to the Bamboo Hut (next
to the HiBall on Broadway near Kearny) Otto will be djing at the Bamboo Hut
from 8-12 mid.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song
Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:16:01 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-03 15:32:09 EDT, you write:

<<  "She's Homeless" as covered by Montefiori
 Cocktail? >>

 La dee dee, la dee dah

- Michele


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Subject: (exotica) Thrift confession
Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:16:00 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-03 14:19:59 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< I hate to say it but Brian is on the mark on that one.  It is
 interesting/humbling/whatever to see some of these people that lead such a
 meager existence. >>

Okay, I have to admit that one day about 3 months ago, I went thrifting all
day.

Ha!  but it wasn't for records, it was for cheesy Hawaiian shirts for a luau
party for my work.  I told the people at work, that I thought I could find
some of those old 1970s era shirts in San Bernardino (a city about 90 miles
east of Los Angeles) where I was going for a conference.  So I went to about
10 thrift stores in a 5-hour period and you are right.  Lots of very poor
people, very sad and the experience cast a dark cloud over the entire day.

I only found 2 shirts that were usable BTW.  Most of the cool Hawaiian shirt
are gone even from San Bernardino thrift stores.  Gotta go to vintage shops
and pay real money for them nowadays.

- Michele


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Subject: (exotica) Thrift store conspiracy
Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:15:26 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-03 01:18:54 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< It's an American
 chain of 125 stores and what's that, they deal in "collectibles"?  We click
on the records icon on the site and what do we see but a photo of "Music to
read James Bond By" followed by a bid list for collectors vinyl (with
minimums!) and instructing you to make your  deal with the manager of the
store in question!!! ..... I'm beginning to see a pattern that's  really
starting to make me sick. >>

Ha!  See I was right!  That's why there isn't anything except Olivia Newton
John albums in thrifts.  All the good stuff is being wisked away to a bidding
site on the internet!  If the rest of the chains catch on, thrifting days are
numbered....

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:16:02 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-03 15:33:23 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< You just said a mouthful, matey.... Finding a killer record beat to pieces
 can affect me for days. It happens more than I would care to admit.
  >>

Okay, please explain why this is painful.  I mean, if I see a record that I
wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked that
record because they played it to death.  Then I think, oh well, better luck
next time.

- Michele


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Subject: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con
Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:25:26 -0400


A few random notes on thrifts.

I can imagine that thrift stores may have several, sometimes
conflicting, objectives.  On one hand, they supply a steady supply of
low cost, used goods to a low-income population.  On the other hand,
they raise money, by selling these products, which can then be
re-distributed to other aspects of their charity.

Thrifts are thus in this constant battle of "Do we price it so low that
the people who really need it can afford it" versus "we need to price
this high enough so any profit goes to our charity and not to some
outside antique dealer type person."

Obviously the record dealers know that thrifts can provide a steady
supply of 'potential profit.'  The thrifts also know this, but most do
not have the expertise to price records accordingly.

I am curious though, do the members of this list who buy records from
the thrifts buy only records?  or do they look around in the store for
other cool and interesting things that they might find?

I do see record dealers in the thrifts....they come in, zero on the
records, and then they usually leave.  With me, I'm also usually going
to the book section, the painting section, the knick-knack section, the
toy section, etc, etc...  I think someone like me will tend to have a
more favorable view of thrifts and what they can provide versus the
people who are only looking for one item.

By the way, I finally thrifted a copy of Kraftwerk's 'Trans-Europe
Express' LP.....the cover was ripped to shreds and bypassed by the
collectors, but the disc is in OK shape.

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Twisted
Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:41:14 EDT


"Twisted" originally a jazz instro by Wardell Gray (LA Central Ave. Scene).
The song is based on his bebop solo....


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Subject: (exotica) Re: A Lyman Oddity
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:45:35 -0500 (CDT)


my assumption was that the original title (and gatefold) was "Percussion
Spectacular!" and after he had a hit with "Yellow Bird" they changed the LP
title to reflect the single's popularity.  i could be wrong.

 -kk

>I recently came across a weird version of Arthur Lyman's _Yellow Bird_ LP.
>HiFi Records had renamed it _Percussion Spectacular!_ (using the original
>Lava photo and type style); they turned it into a gatefold too.

>As far as I can tell, the vinyl itself is identical to _Yellow Bird_ (same
>catalog number too). So, do you Lyman fans know, was this just a brief
>attempt to cash in on the "Persuasive Percussion" fad? It all seemed a
>little desperate to me. . .




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Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 04 Aug 1998 01:23:10 -0400


At 12:16 AM -0400 8/4/98, <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Okay, please explain why this is painful.  I mean, if I see a record that I
>wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked that
>record because they played it to death.  Then I think, oh well, better luck
>next time.

Then I think........I hope that they're dead; if not, I might just have to
go kill them.

anguished much to often to be nice,
br cleve

p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College (Boston,
MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection (around 40 years worth
of records) into a dumpster, as part of their effort to 'modernize' their
radio station [WERS-FM, the studio of which is being rebuilt].
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift store conspiracy
Date: 04 Aug 1998 01:13:49 -0400


At 12:15 AM -0400 8/4/98, <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Ha!  See I was right!  That's why there isn't anything except Olivia Newton
>John albums in thrifts.  All the good stuff is being wisked away to a biddi=
ng
>site on the internet!  If the rest of the chains catch on, thrifting days a=
re
>numbered....

In most large cities here, the thrifts are hit every day by dealers -
antique dealers, record and book people, specialists in furniture and
glass, etc. A friend has an antique barn up in New Hamshire, and he has the
delivery times/days for every Salvation Army, etc in the area. He hits them
all and buys up stuff to sell on the weekends. He sees all the same faces
every morning, all of them dealers vying for and fighting over picking up
the new stuff as it makes it way onto the sales floor. You should see the
records he finds (and has found over the years).

But before 1994, almost no one cared about EZ and exotica records, and the
thrifts were overflowing with it. It's where I found most of the 'greats',
along with lots of Hawaiian shirts and bar stuff and much of the other crap
that fills my house. It's only when all this stuff became 'collectible'
that it started to dry up at the source. So you might not find Esquivel or
The Caine Mutiny soundtrack (or you might),but there's always good stuff to
be found, and to discover....and with  bargain prices like 50=A2whatever a
record, it's affordable to experiment.

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From: Eb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:57:32 -0700


OK, enough about thrift stores...what about MY hangup? Garage sales.

I have a friend who used to drive around neighborhoods on weekends, looking
for garage sales. He'd go to the quieter part of town where a lot of older
folks lived, and he'd clean up on old rarities from the '50s and things.
According to him, his best purchase was a Leadbelly record which he claimed
was worth $150. I also remember a couple of original Chuck Berry lps....

Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk up
to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated
debris of his life. Really gives me the heebie-jeebies. And then, if you
don't buy anything, it's like you're telling him that his life was of no
worth. ;)

Anyway, am I alone here? Heh.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 05 Aug 1998 01:22:13 +0100


>
>
>
>> Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk up
>> to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated
>> debris of his life. Really gives me the heebie-jeebies. And then, if you
>> don't buy anything, it's like you're telling him that his life was of no
>> worth. ;)
>>
>>
>
>

I keep swearing that I will now ignore these threads, but I can't resist....

You are so right about walking away without buying. I am over it though.
I could be that friend. I LIVE for garage sales. Pawing throught the debris is

half the fun.

I have learned that it helps to address thge seller: Say hello and ask how
business is this morning. Most of the time I really enjoy the small talk
as I glance around, look at any interesting articles, ask where the records
are. (Hint: VERY often, they say they never had time to bring them out. -
I get invited in for an exclusive perusal!)

Talk about feeling dirty afterwards...hooooeeee! Thrifts nmhave nothing
on the accumulated funk of an afternoon of garage sales.

Also. If you go, be a dude and buy lemonade and brownies from every kid
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity
Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:36:39 -0400


At 10:22 PM 03/08/98 -0500,recliner wrote:
>
> I concur with  most responses that the Swinging Safari album is probably
>the one to get for old Bert, but I have similar feelings to Nat:

Well I hate to disagree with a guy who's trying to agree with me but...

>  after listening to all the
>zany, bombastic, extreme arrangements of the much spoke of exotica canon
>a subtle Kaempfert touch just may hit the spot.

"Subtle".  Yeah that's one way of saying it.

Before I go on to trash Bert, let me make a Bert recommendation.  I have
the record "Bert Kaempfert Now" where he covers "Put your hand in the hand"
and "Proud Mary".. (Can't wait to hear those, I bet..)  Anyway there's a
song on it called "Kiss her once with feeling" which Bert co-wrote and it's
a very standard arrangement but for some reason, as sappy as it is, I think
it's a lovely tune and I just put it on a compilation tape and when it came
up, I was thinking "Wow what's this?" It sounds like a Mancini-ish tune
from a film you never saw.

But back to Bert.

I believe the same thing of Bert that I said of Edmondo Ros. I think he was
making records for people who he considered "in his market".  People who
didn't want anything too way out, too arranged, too bombastic etc.  He was
making Muzak essentially.  And if you're tired of bombast, yeah muzak can
hit the spot I guess.

I don't think Ray Conniff got worse when he went from those cool wordless
vocal records to the sappier Born Free-type stuff.  I think he was trying
to make records for what he saw as HIS market.

>So in short, in my four tier Vinyl Recliner ratings of Essential/Highly
>Recommended/Very Good/Good I would rank Swinging Safari as a very good.

Okay maybe that record is very good but not Bert as a whole.

I think the reason why I'm so crazed on this topic is because through all
of this, there was a guy like Esquivel who was essentially making records
for the same market as Bert or Ray but it doesn't sound to me like Esquivel
was making any particular attempt to cater to the market.

This is not a seamless argument.  I suppose Enoch Light was trying to cater
to a a market too but maybe he wasn't doing it as slavishly as Bert or Ray.

Everybody was (and is) trying to cater to the market and I suppose there
are records I love that were made by total market whores but in general, I
think that the records I like better were made by musicians who had enough
integrity that they could still do something good while selling out a bit
too.

And I don't think that describes Bert Kaempfert.

Or... a whole bunch of unnamed others either.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:38:10 -0400


At 08:02 PM 03/08/98 UT, you wrote:
>
>What you can find in thrifts all depends on how often you go and how vigilant
>you are.  I thrift once every 8 months, about.  What am I going to find?
>Esquivel?  Command?  Maybe, you never know.  But probably not.  Mostly
I'll find
>a couple of interesting albums.

If you had said "What I going to find? Alice Coltrane? Patti Smith
bootlegs?  Maybe. Probably not", I could go along with you.  But Esquivel
and particularly Command are definitely NOT in the "probably-not" category.
I've gotten both at the Goodwill and especially I've gotten LOTS of Command
records there.

Again I have to say that nobody should go to the thrift stores looking for
ANYTHING in particular or hoping for anything.  Nobody should go unless
like me, they like finding things that they had no idea they wanted until
that instant when they saw it.

But if you go like that, you will almost certainly find things you've heard
of or records by artists you've heard of and wanted.

And finding the stuff is not really dependent on how often you go.  It's
dependent on where you live and how many people like you are doing the same
thing as you.

I used to go to this thrift store about 50 miles from here and there were a
couple of dealers that I saw there everytime I was there.  But they didn't
want the three Martin Denny records I got there one day.  Or the Stereo
Actions or the
Esquivel or twenty Command records I must have gotten there.

But last time I was there, pickings were slimmer and I figured maybe the
stuff was catching on in that town.

A couple of weeks ago a friend of mine went to a thrift store in Western
Canada and picked up HARRY BREUER'S "The Happy Moog" and MARTY GOLD'S "Moog
Plays the Beatles".. and gave them to me.

Is it that surprising that in some towns, moog records are still viewed the
same way they were five or ten years ago?  That's far less amazing to me
than the thought that someone has to pay $40 for a Claude Denjean record.

Generally people who have certain types of records know about used record
stores and have been in a few and so they have some idea that their records
are worth something.  So that's why you don't find lots of jazz at the
Goodwill.  Then again a friend of mine found 100 good jazz records next to
a dumpster once.

But Esquivel and Command, the people that owned those generally sell them
at garage sales or send them to the Goodwill.  If you're not finding them
that's only because someone made it his/her job to get there before you.

Okay let the thrift wars continue.  But please, no more talk of the sad,
downtrodden masses who go there.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 2
Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:18:59 +0100


cheryl wrote:

> Richard Sear:  Love Child  "The Copper Plated Integrated Circuit"

Richard?!


"Eagle Eye" Baldock


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con
Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:48:24 PDT




>
>I am curious though, do the members of this list who buy records from
>the thrifts buy only records?  or do they look around in the store for
>other cool and interesting things that they might find?

Oh yeah: such stuff as tiki mugs (ceramic and wood), paintings, signed
books (got a Seamus Heaney 1st with dedication), Hawaiian shirts, McCoy
pottery and pressed aluminum ware for my wife. Yes, I lead a very full
life....


>By the way, I finally thrifted a copy of Kraftwerk's 'Trans-Europe
>Express' LP.....the cover was ripped to shreds and bypassed by the
>collectors, but the disc is in OK shape.

I found that one once - the original back cover, the one where the lads
have not yet captured that jet-age streamlined look (very hairy).
But it was hammered.

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Subject: (exotica) Henry Mancini's First Piano
Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:44:51


I got a note from a guy in Henry Mancini's home town of West Aliquippa, PA,
who has bought and restored the piano that was in Henry's parent's house
and is probably the instrument he first learned to play on.  He's looking
to sell it.  If you are interested, contact him at:

[e-mail]

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From: "keir keightley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD
Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:52:45 PDT


The 3-CD Verve set is nice, and certainly the packaging is absolutely
gorgeous (each CD is held in a different pocket - but they're not
pockets - they're unlike anything you've ever seen - different coloured,
cardboard cut-outs in the shape of a fish, a flower, and an abstract
design - very Japanese).

But as a massive Jobim fan, I was disappointed, especially by the 3rd
CD, which is Verve "jazz" renditions of a handful of the same songs.
Nice idea, but like "alternate takes", stacked one on top of the other
on a jazz reissue, I never listen to it.  But the set as a whole has the
advantage of  including  a lot of Jobim tracks, plus versions of his
songs by Astrud Gilberto, Stan Getz, and some of Jobim's post-60s work
(like his duet with Elis Regina).  But you're paying mucho dinero for
really only 2 CDs, IMHO.

Instead, I would spend my money on three of these Jobim CDs:

_The Composer Plays_ (Verve) - Jobim's first US album, originally
entitled _The Composer of Desafinado Plays_. One of the greatest
easy listening albums of all time.

_Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer_ (Warner Archive Series).  This
contains 2 full LPs made for Warner Bros. in 1965-66, plus some
tracks from an instrumental Jobim album _Love, Strings, and Jobim_.
This stuff is not as smooth as _The Composer Plays_, but over time
I've come to love the shaky roughness of Jobim's voice (and none of
this is on the Verve box set).

Astrud Gilberto _The Silver Collection_ (Verve). Basically her first
two solo albums (1965-66), with Jobim accompanying her on a lot of
tracks, plus a selection of greatest hits from subsequent stuff
(like her amazing version of "So Nice (Summer Samba)" with the
Walter Wanderley trio).  But "The Girl from Ipanema" isn't included, for
which you'd have to go to the Stan Getz _Getz/Gilberto_ album, which
Verve have just reissued with the 45 single edit of "Girl".

So that's actually four CDs - but I bet they'll be almost the price the
Jobim box set!

From BossaNovaVille,
Keir

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 04 Aug 1998 05:03:29 PDT





>Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk
up
>to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated
>debris of his life. Really gives me the heebie-jeebies. And then, if
you
>don't buy anything, it's like you're telling him that his life was of
no
>worth. ;)
Nah, in most cases they believe they are profiting from the sale of
crap, crap which, if they had a conscience, they would take to Goodwill
or toss. When they see you lumbering up the carport, they are seeing a
"mark." They are saying to themselves "please God do not make me have to
rent a big U-Haul just to fit that naugahyde lazee-boy, this stack of
Jordache jeans.

And besides, if s/he hasn't any decent lps, it seems a fair appraisal.

>Anyway, am I alone here? Heh.
>
Frightfully  ;) No, I seldom garage sale - it takes forever and only
occasionally pays off. Now if you're really a vulture - check out the
estate sales. Often some real plunder!

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Buying records from dead people
Date: 04 Aug 1998 13:18:16 +0100


A good haul once came from a dead uncle (not mine) who was a fastidious=

soundtrck collector. When he died, his relations showed me his boxed
collection of LPs, saying 'How do you know how much these records are
worth?'. I said, 'I just see them around...' and promptly bought Bullit=
t
(=A350 book), Fear is the Key (=A360 book) and 20 other quality soundtr=
acks for
=A390. He had around 1000 soundtracks and valuable classical LPs, all o=
f
which looked unplayed, in boxes in a cupboard which stretched from floo=
r to
ceiling. Joy (for me, not for him).

I don't want to start a discussion of morals here but I think its a dog=
 eat
dog world and all that. If you're going to die with a load of LPs then
you're going to lose them all.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD
Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:29:04 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-03 23:26:32 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< I just saw a 3-CD set of of Jobim's work, on Verve - it appears to be a
 tribute to him, with all sorts of different artists covering his
 material.  The packaging looked incredible, but it was sealed, and there
 are no track or artist listings on the outside - just a few names and
 titles.  Does anyone know anything about this set, and is is worthwhile?
 Or is it Jobim overkill? >>


It is very good, featuring his own mateerial as well as vocal renditions - its
all original stuff from the '60s (not tribute rubbish) but it is sort of
overkill as well - especially in the multiple alternate version area that is
covered!
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:42:53 -0400


>Okay, please explain why this is painful.  I mean, if I see a record that I
>wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked that
>record because they played it to death.  Then I think, oh well, better luck
>next time.

One of the last estate sales I went to, I saw a Chick Webb record with a
vocal from Ella Fiztgerald.  The record was completely unplayable, due to
the excessive heat this was exposed to, which bubbled up the record in some
areas.  As I was leaving with a pile of records for all of fifty cents, one
of the deceased's grandchildren said, "We used to play frisbee with her
records all the time".  In THAT case, that was just sad.

There are stories of folklorists having found rare records nailed to
outhouses and chicken coops as decorations, as well.

For the record,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD
Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:44:18 EDT


My favorite Jobim CD is the previously mentioned "Composer" CD.  Reprise did a
good job here, bringing my two favorite Jobim albums together on one regular
priced CD, with several bonus tracks.

This is mid-60's Jobim where he sings on almost all of the songs.  It is not
like 70's A&M records, which some people love, but are kind of boring &
saccharine to my ear.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:50:02 EDT


In a message dated 8/4/98 8:40:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> >Okay, please explain why this is painful.  I mean, if I see a record that I
>  >wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked
> that
>  >record because they played it to death.  Then I think, oh well, better
luck
>  >next time.

If I find a rare record, that I'd really like to hear, and it is worn out from
being overplayed what can I do but accept the fact that the original owner
beat me to it.  However, when does that ever happen?  Records I see that are
to beat to play are not damaged from overuse -- but from abuse.  And that
makes me mad.

I see these records that look like someone used them to grade a gravel
driveway, before giving it to the cat for a scratching post and I think ---
who is the idiot who ruined this thing!

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re: More on Thrifts
Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:26:42 -0400


<<
p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College (Boston,
MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection (around 40 years worth
of records) into a dumpster, as part of their effort to 'modernize' their
radio station [WERS-FM, the studio of which is being rebuilt].
#!^$@*&!!!!!!!!!!
>>

To that I can only reply,



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHH!
AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!


Why didn't they call me???


<< SOB >>



Then there was the time that the Record Exchange Annex in the Cleveland
Heights Conventry area (where I worked) burned to the ground.  This was the
vinyl/CD store that had all the classical/jazz (and I assume Exotica,
though I wouldn't have known at the time) records one could ever hope for.
I remember standing in the street thinking I was going to cry.

Once it's gone...


Peter
===
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From: "Tim @ World Wide Wax" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Electronica/Exotica Auction
Date: 04 Aug 1998 06:34:57 +0000


I have a new auction of very interesting records here:

http://www.worldwidewax.com/ex/

Enjoy scans of all covers, complete track listings, and some liner
notes.

Included are:

* Mort Garson, The Wozard Of Iz: The Electronic Odyssey
* Dick Hyman, Moog
* Extended Voices: New Pieces for Chorus & for Voices Altered
Electronically By Sound Synthesizers and Vocoder
* Karlheinz Stockhausen: Hymnen: Anthems for Electronic & Concrete
Sounds
* Gil Trythall: Nashville Gold (Moog Country)
* Richard Hayman: Cinemagic Sounds
* Don Sebesky: The Distant Galaxy
* Mort Garson: Signs of the Zodiac--Aries
* Leonard Nimoy: Mr. Spock' Music From Outer Space
* Esquivel: To Love Again EP
* Adventures In Sound & Space
* Dominic Frontiere: Love Eyes--The Moods of Romance
* The Wind Harp: Song From The Hill
* Sid Bass: From Another World
* Frank Pourcel: Les Baxter's La Femme
* George DeWitt: Name That Tune
* Music For the Boyfriend: The Feminine Touch (with Petty Girl cover)
* Raymond Scott: Rock 'N Roll Symphony
* Penguins: Their first on Dootone

I've also added over 500 new set-sale lps.

Tim Barron
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD
Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:48:13 -0400


Thanks for the feedback on the Jobim set.  I know I can always count on
this list!

I had a feeling it was so-so, but the packaging (that I could see)
looked pretty incredible, and the inside was described to me by the
sales clerk, and that sounded even better.  I don't think I'd spring for
it new, but I probably would pick it up if I found it used (and what are
the chances of that ever happening? Who knows?)

In the meanwhile, I will check out the other Jobim CDs mentioned - they
sound like a better bet!

cheryl


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 2
Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:56:03 -0400


Robbie Baldock wrote:

> > Richard Sear:  Love Child  "The Copper Plated Integrated Circuit"

> Richard?!


Oops, sorry - that would be Walter Sear.  See what happens when I let
Brian type up the playlist? (I'm assuming he was checking the name on
Richard Hayman & Walter Sear's "Electronic Evolutions" when he did this,
as Mr. Sear's first name is nowhere to be found on "The Copper Plated
Integrated Circuit"!  This is also what happens when you finalise your
playlist at 3 a.m., and then type it up!)

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 2001: A Lyman Oddity
Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:08:33 -0400


For the curious (like myself, who has Percussion Spectacular), there is
this page http://www.eclipse.net/~fitzgera/labels/hifi.htm , although, it
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)
Date: 04 Aug 1998 16:05:10 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

> << (they would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't
>  decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down) >>
>
> Huh?  Were you kidding or serious?  Did he say that in his will?!

People keep telling me that for years. I didn't read his last will,
though. It's one of the nice rumors about Walt Disney. Toobad that
"Disneyland Babylon" doesn't have a homepage. That fanzine was
incredible. It had ALL the great weird stories about the magick kingdom.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity
Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:11:11 -0500


>
>I think the reason why I'm so crazed on this topic is because through all
>of this, there was a guy like Esquivel who was essentially making records
>for the same market as Bert or Ray but it doesn't sound to me like Esquivel
>was making any particular attempt to cater to the market.

I think it's safe to asume that the American record industry, past and
present,makes attempts to cater to a market with EVERY RECORDING ARTIST.

We of the nineties may take Esquivel to be hipper that thou and just
because it's more difficult for us to imagine that folks in the fifties
enjoyed this stuff I think it's a leap to think that RCA issued his stuff
out of their philanthopic hearts.
I will conced that if you look at the amount of records these respective
artists sold that it would seem that Bert and Ray did cater to a lower
common denominator.(See below the term "Market Whore")


>Everybody was (and is) trying to cater to the market and I suppose there
>are records I love that were made by total market whores but in general, I
>think that the records I like better were made by musicians who had enough
>integrity that they could still do something good while selling out a bit
>too.

In some respect the music speaks for itself but, artistic integrity is
still a difficult thing to peg down, epecially since were restricting the
conversation here to pop music. Imagine a different situation where we
lauded Ray and Burt for their precision arrangements and considered
Esquivel a dupe for throwing in any old goofy effect just to sell a
record.

I don't want to beat this topic to death for I too would much rather
listen to Esquivel than Bert Kaempfert (It would be interesting to see if
anyone feels otherwise). I just wanted to make a point for including poor
old Bert rather than writing him off.

Frank (trying hard not to rant)


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Subject: (exotica) More on Vinyl Destruction
Date: 04 Aug 1998 07:14:39 -0700 (PDT)



In the mid 70s I was driving past some guy with the back of his
pick-up truck full of 45s.  He was throwing them into a field.
Ahhrrrrrg!  I stopped and was able to talk him into giving the records
to me.  Its always been a wonderful memory everytime I play one of
these 45s. The music tended to be New Orleans rock & roll.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck

---Peter Risser  wrote:
 p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College
(Boston, MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection (around
40 years worth of records) into a dumpster
, Then there was the time that the Record Exchange Annex in the
Cleveland area (where I worked) burned to the ground.  This was the>
vinyl/CD store that had all the classical/jazz (and I assume Exotica,

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation
Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:49:43 EDT


I was quoted:

<< "I find it interesting that the Disney "backlash" has only happened in
 the last 4 or 5 years.  Before that no one ever said anything bad about
 Disney."

And m.ace responded:

" Not so. Ron Goulart's book, "The Assault On Childhood", with its long
 and interesting chapter on the Disney machine was published around the
 late 60s or early 70s. And it includes earlier quotes from others --
 Disney skepticism is nothing new. Of course the Disney cross-marketing
 push was already established in the 30s, so that's nothing new either." >>

My  response to that is:

I am familiar with the comments from that book but that book reached a fairly
limited audience.  The mass media (newsprint, tv, radio) did not ever say
anything bad about Disney until recent years.  Sure there have been detractors
of Disney all along but the major "viewing" audience (read the masses) did not
get word of this until very recently.  Because of this I stand by my original
comment copied above.

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Subject: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD
Date: 04 Aug 1998 07:45:26 -0700 (PDT)


Cheryl:

I like the box set for what it does, a variety of interpretations of
some of his best songs but I would spend $8.49 at cdnow for Rio
Revisted.  For me it is the most exotic of all Jobim albums.  Lots of
girl chorus voices feverishly singing his songs.  A big, beautiful
prodution of Jobim.
You can't go wrong for the price. I noticed there was a video also, I
bet its great.

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---cheryl  wrote:
 I just saw a 3-CD set of of Jobim's work, on Verve -
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Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation -Reply
Date: 04 Aug 1998 11:18:45 -0400



DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!!

End of discussion.




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Subject: (exotica) Saving Jessica
Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:40:33 -0700 (PDT)


First Irwin left, then Jack and now the Vinyl Collecting Queen of the
Exotica Scene, who is next?

Jessica you are in our exotica prayers, I hope all is well.

By the way, what albums have you purchased recently?

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
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Subject: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con and I hope Jesus ain't angry
Date: 04 Aug 1998 11:48:08 EDT



<< On one hand, they supply a steady supply of
 low cost, used goods to a low-income population.  On the other hand,
 they raise money, by selling these products, which can then be
 re-distributed to other aspects of their charity.  >>

And this brings up the "ethics" of haggling over the price at a thrift.  Are
you taking the money from the needy by haggling?  Or just being thrifty (which
some friend of mine says if favorable in the eyes of the Lord)?

One time I was in a thrift and picked up something I really didn't need and it
was marked like $ 2.00.  I asked the clerk if they would take $ 1.00 and my
brother says, "Hey, you trying to take money from Jesus?"  And I said, "Do you
think he really needs it?"

My brother and I broke up laughing but the clerk was not amused.  I kindly
returned the item to the dirty stack from where it came, said a brief prayer
and got the hell outta there.

Heathenly,

Robert


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Subject: (exotica) Hey, wait.....
Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:12:53 Pacific Daylight Time


A recent thread here has been about the "morality" of shopping in thrift stores, garage sales etc. I have nothing
to add on that, but let me tell you this: When I was living in Edmonton last summer, Herb Alpert came to town.
Ticket price? 46 dollars and tax, Canadian. Now THAT'S immoral!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:03:56 -0400


At 11:57 PM 03/08/98 -0700, Eb wrote:

>Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk up
>to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated
>debris of his life.

My biggest problem is that I can NOT get myself awake early enough.  But I
can appreciate this concern too.  You have to smile at the people... though
a weak smile will usually suffice.  You have to nod a couple of times as if
to say "nice stuff!".  Then when you determine that they have no records,
you have to pick up a couple of things just to feign interest.
Having said this though,  in my experience the general rules that apply to
thrift stores as far as what you are likely or unlikely to find, go out the
window with garage sales.  You might find ANYTHING at a garage sale.
The dealer-issue still applies.  If the garage sale is advertised, chances
are dealers will show up before the announced start-time and sometimes the
record dealers will just buy the whole box.  But luckily, most sales are
not advertised quite that way.
But there's no type of record that I haven't found at a garage sale from
great jazz to Moog records to you name it.
This summer I've yet to find a good garage sale but I haven't left my
neighbourhood and I think my neighbourhood is kind of dried up.  A friend
of mine who does it more seriously - and hits the outlying areas - picked
up 450 records in the first few weeks of this season and he won't buy just
anything.
I should also add that from time to time, if you see no records, you should
ask anyway.  Sometimes they don't put the records out even though they'd
apparently love to get rid of them.  Your heart can skip a beat or two when
you ask for the hell of it whether they have any records and moments later
you see one of them emerge with a "fresh" box of records.
But back to the original point, yes garage sales are kind of personal.  At
the thrift store, you can look around and say out loud "What a bunch of
crap!"  At a garage sale you have to be polite and even phoney... which can
be a challenge.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Buying records (and stuff) from dead people
Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:07:04 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-04 08:18:55 EDT, Charles wrote:

<< A good haul once came from a dead uncle (not mine) who was a fastidious
 soundtrck collector. When he died, his relations showed me his boxed
 collection >>

About 10 years ago a school mate of mine and I were in Philadelphia for an
optometry meeting and we went to the market area (famous scene in Rocky one).

There was this shop there where they sold old shoes, just tons of old shoes.

My friend picks up this nice pair of penny loafers and tries them on and they
fit.  He buys them from the lady and wears them out.  On the way out he ask,
"Hey were do you get these shoes from anyway?"  And she replies, "From the
morgue!".

He wore those shoes thru the rest of optometry school and saw many a patient
in those loafers.  Maybe this is why at funerals you only see the top half of
the person in the casket.  Some freaking mortician has sold the bastard's
shoes!  And no telling what they did with his Lyman records!

Robert


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Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply
Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:10:28 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-04 11:19:10 EDT, Nat wrote:

<< DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!!

 End of discussion.
  >>

and like he would just throw one of those Tiki Room ablums in the shit can if
one came across his desk???


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) That's his suit (but where's his shoes, LPs, and,
Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:15:35 -0500



    CHICAGO, Aug. 4 (UPI) -- The family of Benny Morris was shocked when they
showed up to view his body before his funeral.
    Another corpse was wearing Morris's brown suit Monday, and his body was
nowhere to be found.
    A spokesman for the Corbin Colonial Funeral Chapel on Chicago's West Side
said Morris died at 48 of a heart attack on Sunday and was to be buried today.
    A family member who attended the visitation said the body in his brother's
suit and casket did resemble Morris but was that of a much younger man in
his 30s.
    Police are investigating the missing body as a possible theft.




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Subject: (exotica) Hey, wait. . .Don't I know you?
Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:17:49 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-04 12:04:36 EDT, darren observed:

<< but let me tell you this: When I was living in Edmonton last summer, Herb
Alpert came to town.
 Ticket price? 46 dollars and tax, Canadian. Now THAT'S immoral!
  >>

Herb Alpert I don't know about.  But this is kinda erie:  I swear, Willie
Nelson follows me around to the thrifts I frequent!!!

Robert


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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hey, wait.....
Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:20:38 PDT


Hey, it's still less than a pack of cigarettes will cost you. But they
both cause cancer.


>A recent thread here has been about the "morality" of shopping in
thrift stores, garage sales etc. I have nothing
>to add on that, but let me tell you this: When I was living in Edmonton
last summer, Herb Alpert came to town.
>Ticket price? 46 dollars and tax, Canadian. Now THAT'S immoral!
>
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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re exotica suggestions
Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:22:03 PDT


>But I strongly suspect that if you'd asked Edmondo himself about his
>records versus Cugat's or Prado's, he himself would have said that
>those
>guys were "too way out" for his or his audience's taste.

I disagree, Cugat and Prado are for those who take their mambo seriously
(and i for one really enjoy them). But (with the exception of Voodoo
Suite) are they really more 'way out' than Edmundo doing a latin version
of 'If i were a rich man' which segues from an intro of 'hava nagila'?
You may have lost your jazz purism but it seems you like your exotica
with a puritan flavour!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts and Disposability
Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:23:10 -0400


At 08:50 AM 04/08/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:

> Records I see that are
>to beat to play are not damaged from overuse -- but from abuse.  And that
>makes me mad.
>who is the idiot who ruined this thing!

I can appreciate the feeling of disappointment when a find turns out to be
not such a find after all.  And if it's not good enough to direct your
protests at an unfair God, I can see how you look for an imaginary person
instead.

But the fact that records were abused, used as coasters, plates or facial
cleansers.. that's inextricably connected to what's cool about this whole
pursuit we're involved in.

These records weren't made to last throughout the ages!  They weren't made
to be collected.  They were made like any other disposable item, to become
obsolete and to be discarded.  You were supposed to play them a few times
and then move on to the next purchase.

Okay I'm sure there are exceptions to that.  Artists who made records that
they hoped would last for ages.

But still, especially with the records that are discussed on this list,
part of the fun surely is in reclaiming and giving value to the disposable
items of the past.  If records were so precious that no respectable person
would abuse them, then I suspect I wouldn't be here and neither would this
list be.

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Subject: (exotica) Re:  "Sound Gallery" curators' other releases?
Date: 04 Aug 1998 14:32:17 +0200


<[e-mail]> wrote:

>But what I'm wondering is, has anyone heard of their other two releases listed
>in the "Erotica" liner notes: "Cinema 100" and/or "Movie Grooves"?

    I have been trying to find these for *months*, without any success...

        Johan


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From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply
Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:12:19 -0700


>>>DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!!  End of discussion.

First paragraph from a VILLAGE VOICE article entitled "Rats! That Corporate
Rodent Descends Upon Central Park--Again" by Guy Trebay (July 14, 1998)

"Does anyone else get the creeps from that sinister rodent?  Or do people
really still think of him as a jolly ambassador of all-American
entertainment?  Is it possible some folks are at least a tiny bit disturbed
by the bland iconic presence masking a corporate empire that reams Third
World workers, banalizes American culture, and operates theme parks
constructed along the lines of totalitarian dream states?  Or are we all too
besotted watching Disney ratchet up the Dow to notice the ominous shadow of
mouse ears darkening the land?"

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Adventures in Stereo and More
Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT)


I received Adventures In Stereo's second album "Alternative Stereo
Sounds" released this year on the Marina label.  If you're not
familiar with them they are a very soft lounge version of Bananarama
without the synthisized dance beats,  modern girl group pop exotica.
The album is is worth owning but is not a must have, 4 out of 5 stars.

I receive the cds from Roudabout Records, International Pop Mailorder,
Post Office Box 76302, Washington DC 20013-6302.

Also from Roundabout I got  the Aperitivo v/a compilation on Siesta,
no date. Its definitely more influenced by pop then the great Expresso
compilation cd also on Siesta.  The songs are genrally soft ballads a
few instumentals  but there are some pop songs on this cd so I can't
recommend it for every on the list but definitely buy the Expresso cd.

On Siesta/ Mercury 1996, I received La Buena Vida's cd "Soidemersol".
Great soft underproduced lounge songs sung in spanish.  This is a cool
cd of great male and female vocals with an occasional instrumental.  I
love their song and I get to practice my spanish. Are there any
exoticats from Spain or Latin America on the list?

I highly advise buying Trembling Blue Stars, " her handwriting" 1996,
Shinkannsen for anyone with a broken relationship.  The soft
underproduced songs are very depressing and detail the end of an
affair. The words to the songs are very believable, modern angst at
its best and a very easy listen.

Laserlight has finally shown up at Virgin Reords with a few choice
exotica compilations, released in 1996, my favorite being the
Bachelor's Little Black Book, with exotica standards and obsurities.
Patricia by Prad, Ruby by Richard Hayman, Celito Linda by Percy Faith,
Mr Kelly & Me & Main Title from Joanna by Artur Greensdale, Melina by
the Strayan Strings,  Anna by Silvana Mangano, Vanesa by Hugo
Winterhalter,  Adios Marquita Linda by the great Esquivel and a few
other good selections and its hard to believe its from Laserlight with
that nice price.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) re exotica suggestions
Date: 04 Aug 1998 13:31:42 -0400


At 09:22 AM 04/08/98 PDT, Robert McKenna wrote:

 Cugat and Prado are for those who take their mambo seriously
>(and i for one really enjoy them)

Well I don't take my mambo seriously - whatever that means - but I do
prefer Cugat and Prado yes.  I don't think they took it seriously either.
I don't really know what serious mambo is.  I think all these guys did
"American-ized" commercial mambo records and didn't give a hoot about
authenticity.  And neither do I.

. But (with the exception of Voodoo
>Suite) are they really more 'way out' than Edmundo doing a latin version
>of 'If i were a rich man' which segues from an intro of 'hava nagila'?

Well obviously we disagree on the meaning of "way out".  Yes, from a
certain point of view Edmondo did things that were way out.  On "Arriba" he
has singing versions of "Heartaches" and "The Laughing Samba" which I would
call way out and I would also call "nearly unbearable".
Seguing from "if I were a rich man" to "hava nagila" is just another
terribly clever juxtaposition of two tunes associated with Jews.  I heard a
similarly clever segueway from every Bar Mitzvah band working the circuit
in the sixties.
Clever medleys are for some reason, still at the bottom of the list for me.

>You may have lost your jazz purism but it seems you like your exotica
>with a puritan flavour!

Well okay, I know that's a flame but as a paid-up member of the
anti-Edmondo army (a division of Self-Righteous Arbiters of Taste), I'm
used to flames.

It's interesting to see someone use the words "exotica" and "puritan" in
the same sentence.

Let me try it this way.  You have a friend into rock n roll and jazz but
not into exotica generally.  He or she finds it a bit too much like Muzak.
If you want to win them over to the exotica side - for God knows what
reason - are you going to make them a tape with the best of Perez Prado (or
Cugat) or the best of Edmondo Ros?

I have a feeling you'll say Edmondo.  Whatever... Maybe you don't want to
convince your fictional friend after all.  Or maybe you find Edmondo more
"typical" of easy listening so you want to drag them down before you lift
them up.

Edmondo's okay.  He's a fine musician and arranger.  So are Frank Mills and
Hagood Hardy (a little Canadian content for a change) and countless others.

I never said that Edmondo did NOTHING good.  I recommended a few of his
records as I recall.  If you had all his countless records I bet you could
make one hot tape. But cut for cut, over the long haul, Edmondo is just a
bit more tepid, a bit more subdued, a bit more "commercial", a bit more
"easy" listening than Cugat or Prado.

You have five or six Edmondo records and five or six Prado or Cugat and
you're in a thrift store and you can only take one more - they have a limit
for some reason - and it's a choice between Edmondo and Prado and you're
thinking that you'd like to hear a little PASSION, a little excitement...
well I'd take the Prado record.

If wanting the excitement is puritanical, well I guess I'll have to give
those puritans another look.

How about another word?  Joy.

And if you have an Edmondo cut that has a GROOVE like Cugat's versions of
Night Train or Apache, I've yet to hear it.

I like a groove.  Edmondo's records only have one groove on each side.

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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Funk)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD
Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:15:58 -1000


>I just saw a 3-CD set of of Jobim's work, on Verve - it appears to be a
>tribute to him, with all sorts of different artists covering his
>material.  The packaging looked incredible, but it was sealed, and there
>are no track or artist listings on the outside - just a few names and
>titles.  Does anyone know anything about this set, and is is worthwhile?
>Or is it Jobim overkill?

I also have the set, and to agree with what others have said, it is
probably only worth it for the Jobim-obsessive/completists (that would be
me) or those who are especially enamored of gorgeous and creative packaging
(not me).

I did want to add that it really isn't all 1960s material, which is one of
the downfalls.  I'd say about half 60s, and half 70s/80s with a
disproportionate number of tracks from the rather lame "big ensemble" 80s
album, "Passagim" (spelling?).  Also, a fairly big cross-section of the 70s
instumental stuff from "Wave" and "Tide", which is an acquired taste for
many.  And yes, the third "Side By Side" disc is ill-conceived to say the
least.

It does have a tasty chunk of the 60s Getz/Jobim-era material, but you will
probably be left feeling hungry for MORE.

Personally, I listen much more often to the 4-CD Verve set that you'll
probably find filed under "Stan Getz" called "The Bossa Nova Years". This
is also very reasonably priced (I think mine was about $35), and packaged
in a boring old jewel box.  It has all the classic Getz/Jobim/Gilberto
material, some rare live stuff, plus the Getz/Almeida and "Big Band Bossa
Nova" albums, all in one handy package.  This set is shuffle play heaven.
Hopefully it is still available. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!


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From: Mark Benton Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con
Date: 04 Aug 1998 17:28:22 -0400


[e-mail] wrote:

> I am curious though, do the members of this list who buy records from
> the thrifts buy only records?  or do they look around in the store for
> other cool and interesting things that they might find?
>

I probably buy more books from thrifts than I do records.  Scruffy books read
ok, but scruffy records...well, you get the gist.

Something I wonder about...CDs are just now coming into thrift stores in my
area (Columbus, GA).  In what year does everyone think thrift stores will have
more CDs than vinyl?

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jaaaaaaaaaaack
Date: 04 Aug 1998 15:16:57 -0700


 Hey kids!

 KFJC play list 2/25/96 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                    TRACK                      ALBUM

 Planets                   Chunky

 Frank Wess,Kenny Burrell,
 Kenny Clark-Drums         Wess Side                   SAVOY/56,7

 Ferrante & Teicher        Bye Bye Blues              Blast Off/Abc
 Mindexpanders             Theme From                 67
 Al Viola                  Lemon Twist                Gtrs. Vol 2, Liberty
 Don Ralke                 Mombasa                    Bongos/WB
 Bob Crewe Generation      Music to Watch Girls By    Pepsi Comm. Music
 Axel Stordahl             Caravan(!!!)               Dot
 Esquivel                  Marie                      Inf Vol. 1
 Maxwell, Robert             Accidental Slip on An      [coll]: Cocktail Mix
                           Orient Carpet              Vol #1

 Jerry Goldsmith           Double Cross               Last Run


 Googie Rene/Plas Johnson
 Jack Costanzo             Cool It at the Coliseum

 Stu Phillips              Sunday Arts & Football     67
 Roy Clark                 Blues and Clark            Dot
 Moondog                   Symphonique # 6
 Mel Henke                 You're Drivin' Me Crazy
 Electric Flag             Peter Gets Off             The Trip
 Mel Henke                 Woman in Space
 Les Baxter/S.Hoffman      Lunar Rhapsody             10"/Capitol

 Esquivel/S.Hoffman(?)     Spellbound                  In Stereo/Rca

 Vi Velasco/Zoot Sims      Recado(The Message)        Colpix/Oct 62
 Allyn Ferguson Sextet     Sextet for Contemporaries
 Pete Rugolo               Rugolo Meets Shearing      Adventures
 Kenyon Hopkins            The Hustler                Kapp
 Stanley Wilson,Cond.      Johnny Wiliams,Comp.       The Chase/M-Squad

 Nordine                   Sky,Envelope,Roller           TWINK
                         Skate,Blotter

 Ray Martin                The Breeze & I
 Excitement, Inc.          Stereo Action              Rca

 George Duning with
 Conte & Pete Candoli      Zodiac Blues                 Bell,Book and Candle

 Mancini                   The Happy Carousel         Charade
 Jac Zinder                Pet Sounds                 Catasonic
 June Wilkinson            Deep Breathing Stretch
 Dena & Danny Guglielmi    Out of Nowhere             Tops
 Mancini                   Teen Age Hostage           Exp in Terror
 Jane Birkin,Serge Gainsberg      Je T'aime
 Folkswingers              Hey Joe
 Sal Salvador              Deep Down/Decca 9210-MOOD  Jazz in Hifi
 Nelson Riddle             Untouchables Theme         Capitol
 Nini Olivero              Music Car
 Johnny Richards           Ofo                        Rites of Diablo
 Dom Frontiere             Listen to Lou              LIBERTY/1-56
 Eliminators               Staccato                   Easy Project
 Martin Denny              Song of the Bayou          Ex Perc.
 Kenyon Hopkins            Haunted House              NIGHTMARE/64
 Tom Dissvelt/Kid Baltan   Moon Maids                 Limelight
 Marty Manning             You Stepped Out of a Dream 60, Twilight Zone
 Stu Phillips              Intern Fever               Interns
 Pierre Henry              Teen Tonic                 63/LIMELIGHT
 Vic Mizzy                 Daybreak at Malibu         Don't Make Waves

 McDuff, Brother Jack      Hot Barbecue               [coll]: Cocktail Mix
                                                      Vol. #2

 Campilongo, Jim           Blue Hen                   ... and the 10
                                                      Gallon Cats

 Gershon Kingsley          1ST Moog Qrt-Popcorn       A.F./1972

 Campilongo, Jim           Splitsville                ... and the 10
                                                      Gallon Cats

 Martin Denny              Yellow Bird                67/MOOG

 Pete Rugolo               Diamond on the Move

 KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022

 KFJC play list 2/25/96 for Jack Diamond

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Jack

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica-Related Reference Book
Date: 04 Aug 1998 19:00:52 -0400


Trying to put the book section of the FAQ on slightly firmer ground, I've
been looking through music books at our public library. . . it seems that
even the most relevant ones only have about 2% exotica content. . . but
then I came across a new book that I thought some of you would be
interested in:

_Conductors and Composers of Popular Orchestral Music_
by Reuben and Naomi Musiker
(1998, Greenwood Press)
ISBN 0-313-30260-X

This has biographical sketches (of a half-page to a couple of pages) for
folks who were active starting in the 40s and 50s. And I would say the
exotica quotient was easily 30%--people like Stanley Black, Marty Gold, Al
Nevins, Mantovani, Bert Kaempfert, etc. The writing style is pretty dry,
but one bonus for vinyl-hounds is that many entries have partial or
complete discographies including catalog numbers.

If you're a fan of the biographical info in Brad's Space Age Pop Standards
site (and who isn't!), this book may be for you.

Greenwood Press is at: 88 Post Road West, Westport CT 06881, USA.

Happy browsing,

 --Ross

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lord Hawke obit
Date: 04 Aug 1998 19:51:31 -0500


     KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent (AP) -- Calypso singer Lloyd Providence, better
known as Lord Hawke, was found dead Monday morning in his home on the
Caribbean island of St. Vincent, police reported. He was 54.
    Providence appeared to have died from natural causes, police said.
    Providence was widely considered a master of Caribbean calypso, heavily
rhythmic music with African roots and lyrics rich in political satire.




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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
Date: 04 Aug 1998 20:14:03 -0400


Hey everybody, here's the revised FAQ, all eleven kilobytes of it. Sorry. . .

I'm still looking for feedback on the "books" section: if I listed
something you think is junk, or omitted something you think is essential,
just send me note explaining why. I tended to list books only when I'd seen
them myself or if somebody had posted a good description to the list--I
left out several where I only had a title to go on.

Also, a (?) means I still need to know a publisher for those titles. . .

Let me know what you think,

 --Ross

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Exotica Mailing List FAQ  [Second Draft] 4 August 1998



Q: What is "exotica"?

A: A musical genre, named for the 1957 Martin Denny album of the same
title. Most narrowly defined, it refers to lounge jazz augmented with
polynesian, asian and latin instruments and "tropical" themes. The exotica
style was pioneered by composer Les Baxter, and popularized by such artists
as Denny, Arthur Lyman, and Gene Rains.

In the context of this mailing list, it is used as a term of convenience to
cover many genres of 50s and 60s music--most might fall under the general
umbrella of "space age pop instrumentals." These include percussion,
cha-cha, soundtracks, "Now Sound," Bossa Nova, moog, and a thousand other
subcategories according to the taste of each individual. (I use "exotica"
in the remainder of this FAQ to cover all these possiblities.)



Q: Is it correct to call this music "lounge"?

A: Well, as a way of describing the *music* (as opposed to "the scene")
there are some objections to the word--but you might as well get used to
it: That is the most common term used to descibe exotica by the outside
world (e.g. in labelling bins in the music store). However "lounge" might
be interpreted as including some legitimate jazz, torch singers, etc.--all
of which are a little more mainstream than the interests of list members.
Also, the connotation of subdued, low-energy music clearly doesn't apply to
the more dynamic sounds of performers like Esquivel.



Q: Well, what is the correct term?

A: There is no answer to this, although people have variously suggested
Space Age Bachelor-Pad; Easy; Cocktail; Hi-Fi; Space Age Pop; Cheesy
Listening; Dynamica; etc.



Q: If someone were just beginning to search for exotica records, what would
be some good things to look out for?

A: Though such a list is bound to be incomplete and disputable, here are
some suggestions:

  * Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman LPs

  * Juan Garcia Esquivel LPs (rare today)

  * Glossy albums (often gatefold) on "Hi-Fi" labels like Command,
    Phase Four, Mercury "Perfect Presence," Time, Audio Fidelity,
    Directional Sound, etc.

  * Albums with "Percussion" in the title

  * Latin music as performed by American or European studio musicians

  * RCA's "Stereo Action" Series (thick, white, die-cut covers)

  * Early Ferrante and Teicher (with prepared piano)

  * The Three Suns RCA "Living Stereo" LPs

  * Electric organ virtuosos (Lenny Dee, Dick Hyman, etc.)

  * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord, sitar, or harp

  * Inappropriate cover versions ("Light My Fire" on pipe organ, etc.)

  * Hawaiian music as performed by non-Hawaiians

  * Albums showcasing moog synthesizer

  * "Now Sound" LPs (Brass Ring, etc.)

  * Albums with "discotheque" or "au go-go" in the title



Q: Many people still regard this music as "obviously awful." Do exotica
fans REALLY enjoy this music or is it all some ironic put-on?

A: Fans of exotica are well aware that these genres have been reviled as
"easy listening" or "plastic" by the rock generation; for some, a perverse
kitsch appeal was the starting point. However most would say that the more
time you spend with this music, the more your appreciation grows for its
energy, inventiveness, and musicianship, and for the creativity of the
arrangements--despite the somewhat misguided concepts that may have been
explored.

Also, the orginal intent to create "commercial" music for a particular
market can no longer be regarded as something sinster--by now it must be
seen as a fascinating anthropological window into the spirit of an earlier
time.



Q: Are there some good books & magazines on the subject of Exotica?

A: The books mentioned most often on the exotica list are volumes 1 & 2 of
_Incredibly Strange Music_, by V. Vale and Andrea Juno (RE/search), and
_Elevator Music_, by Joseph Lanza (Picador).

The "Vik's Lounge" website maintains an excellent exotica book list, with
cover photos and capsule summaries, at:

http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/reading.html


General works about music with some exotica content:

  Conductors and Composers of Popular Orchestral Music,
     Reuben and Naomi Musiker (Greenwood)
  The Penguin Encyclopedia of Popular Music, Donald Clarke, ed. (Viking)
  Top Pop Albums 1955-1996, Joel Whitburn (Record Research)
  The Record Label Guide for Domestic LPs, Joe Lindsay (Biodisc)
  TV's Biggest Hits, Jon Burlingame (Schirmer)
  Goldmine's Celebrity Vocals, Ron Lofman (?)
  Goldmine's Comedy Record Price Guide, Ronald L. Smith (?)
  ASCAP Biographical Dictionary (Bowker)
  Hawaiian Music and Musicians: An Illustrated History,
     George Kanahele, ed. (University Press of Hawaii)
  Disco Duck and Other Adventures in Novelty Music,
     Ace Collins (Berkley Boulevard)
  The Exotic in Western Music, Jonathan Bellman, ed. (Northeastern)
  The Recording Angel: Explorations in Phonography, Evan Eisenberg (?)
  Bootleg: The Secret History of the Other Recording Industry,
     Clinton Heylin (?)
  Schwann Long Playing Record Catalog (annual, back issues from
     relevant years)

On electronic music:

  Electronic and Computer Music, Peter Manning (Oxford)
  Vintage Synthesizers, Mark Vail (GPI/Miller Freeman)
  A Guide to Electronic Music, Paul Griffiths (Thames & Hudson)
  Electronic and Experimental Music, Thomas Holmes (Scribners)

On retro style:

  Hi-fi's & Hi-balls: The Golden Age of the American Bachelor,
     Steven Guarnaccia and Bob Sloan (Chronicle)
  Populuxe, Thomas Hine (Knopf)
  Contemporary, Lesley Jackson (Phaidon)

Music "scenes" and generational identity:

  Subcultures, Dick Hebdige (?)
  13th Gen, Neil Howe and Bill Strauss (?)
  Club Cultures, Sarah Thornton (?)


Exotica-related zines (some may no longer be active):

  Cannot Become Obsolete
  Cool & Strange Music!
  Exotica/Etc.
  Thrift Score
  Tiki News
  My Vinyl Recliner
  Easy Listener
  Mystery Date
  Organs and Bongos



Q: Are there any good websites covering Exotica and Lounge?

A: Yes!

Hands down, the best one-stop information site about exotica performers and
composers is Brad Bigelow's "Space Age Pop Standards":

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/index.htm

A master jumping-off point for dozens of other lounge-related sites can be
found via King Kini's "Club Velvet," at:

http://www.tamboo.com/loungelinks.html

and also via Vik's Lounge, at:

http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/viklink.html



Q: Is it bad or good when your previously-obscure little hobby becomes a
genuine, media-approved "scene"?

A: Well, you may be annoyed when a bunch of shallow people start crashing
your party, knowing next to nothing about the music and just wanting to be
part of a fad--but their numbers do tend to get the attention of record
company executives, with the happy result that some impossible-to-find
material (like Esquivel LPs) gets re-released on CD.

As of 1998 we are experiencing the flip side of this trend, as the media
stampede is now headed towards "swing" (another media label which blurs
together several genres). While there are points of overlap with exotica,
it has generally been interpreted as the waning of "Lounge." The downside
has been an abrupt dropoff in exotica re-releases. But there's some
speculation that finding vintage exotica on vinyl may be getting
(infinitesimally) easier, as some collectors move on to other genres.



Q: Are the Capitol "Ultra Lounge" CDs any good?

A: The series is entertainingly packaged and aggressively promoted, and
generally helped improve the visibility of "Lounge." However the repertoire
came entirely from the vaults of Capitol (and its affliliates), so some of
the real titans of exotica got left out (e.g. Esquivel, Enoch Light); and
some of what got included was fairly generic. Nonetheless, a few of the CDs
(e.g. "Bachelor Pad Royale") are considered essential.

Some have objected to the way the UL series became the 800-Pound Gorilla of
Lounge, sucking up all the consumer dollars which might otherwise have gone
to supporting re-releases of individual classic exotica albums.



Q: Is it possible to find good records in thrift stores, or are those LPs
all just destroyed Barbara Streisand albums? (Corollary: Is it worth paying
"dealer prices" for LPs I want, or am I getting ripped off?)

A: Two different exotica fans, both behaving with complete economic
rationality, can arrive at very different answers to this one.

Thrifting makes sense for people with free time, moderate incomes, who
might go thrifting anyway for other reasons, and who live in areas with
good thrifting demographics. This might mean rural or shrinking industrial
areas where young hipsters tend to move away, but where a stable, older
middle class still lives.

Busy professionals who live in trendier urban areas will probably find
thrifting a waste of time. For them, the service provided by dealers in
locating and culling LPs is generally worth the premium charged.

One misconception is that the condition of thrift store records is
uniformly bad; in fact the condition is extremely variable, ranging from
unplayable to near mint. And at prices of $1 per LP or lower, it becomes
possible to take chances on unknown albums or to accept disks in poorer
condition, just to learn more about different artists.



Q: What is the best way to clean really dirty old records?

A: The purist, or someone with many records to deal with, should
investigate the various wet/vacuum record cleaners from Nitty Gritty, VPI,
or The Audio Advisor. Although the cost of these machines seems high, users
are uniformly positive about them.

People on a budget or with more casual needs generally do fine washing
records in the kitchen sink with dish soap and a clean sponge. Tap water in
many areas can leave behind "crunchy" mineral residues when it dries--give
a final rinse in distilled water, or at least be vigilant in shaking and
blotting away water droplets from the disk.



Q: Is it wrong to buy bootlegs?

A: Virtually all agree they would prefer to see a legitimate release, where
the original artists receive credit and royalties where possible. In some
cases the existence of bootlegs can undermine the market for such
legitimate releases. However some feel there is a gray area, where
rights-holders have thrown up impossible obstacles to a legitmate release,
and where the intent is more to make hard-to-find music available rather
than as a mercenary venture. Whatever your ethical views are, the rapid
spread of digital reproduction technology is certain to make the issue even
more confused in coming years.
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From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) Pat Boone Comes To Year 2000 Rescue
Date: 05 Aug 1998 02:23:22 GMT


ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA, U.S.A., 1998 AUG 4 (NB) --
Worried about computer systems and networks not being able to handle
the Year 2000 date change? Fear not. Pat Boone, the `50s crooner with
the white bucs, is joining the campaign for a smooth millennium.

Boone is joining the Year 2000 National Educational Taskforce (Y2KNET)
to raise public awareness about the Millennium Bug.

"I want to help bring Y2K to the family dinner table for dialogue,"
said Boone, who brought black rhythm and blues to a white audience by
recording Little Richard's "Tutti Frutti," and has recently recorded
an album called "In A Metal Mood, No More Mr. Nice Guy."

"Now it is time to begin discussing individual and community
preparation for Y2K-related problems."

"I want to stress that I don't believe there is any reason to panic,"
the crooner said.

To do his part in keeping America cool and calm, Boone has recorded
the first in a series of public service announcements (PSAs) for radio
broadcast offering free Y2K information, called "Y2KCPR resources."

The resources will include a 48-page special collector's edition of
Y2K News Magazine called "The Many Faces of Y2K," and a free Y2KCPR
audiotape of Y2KNET's recent Atlanta Roundtable with Ed Yourdon as the
keynote.

Free copies of Y2KCPR are available by calling Y2KNET toll-free at
877-4-Y2KCPR. Larger quantity reprints for civic, government, trade
shows, educational seminars, or church groups, costing $0.20 each, are
available by calling Y2K News at 888/925-9925. Radio stations may
download the 47 second Boone Y2K PSA from http://www.y2knet.com or
http://www.y2knews.com .

But despite Boone's involvement, the information industry knows it
will take more than calm voices to prepare for the Year 2000 date
change.



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) oncoming tv
Date: 04 Aug 1998 21:40:11 -0400


A few things this coming weekend on US teletubbies, er television...
(eastern daylight times)

Saturday morning - 7:00am, Sunday morning - 4:00am - A&E - "Beat The
Devil" (1954) A droll, casual comedy directed by John Huston, scripted
by Huston and Truman Capote. Set mostly in a small Mediterranean
sea-port, Humphrey Bogart, Gina Lollobrigida, Jennifer Jones, Robert
Morley, Peter Lorre and a few others play ne'er-do-wells out to make
money on African uranium claims. Shot on location in Italy. It feels
like they were all just hanging out and decided to do a movie. I know
that's not true, but that's the wonderfully casual feeling the movie
has.

Saturday night/Sunday morning - 2:00am - AMC - "Murder, Inc." (1960)
No-nonsense true tales crime saga with Peter Falk as syndicate killer,
Abe Reles. With Stuart Whitman, Henry Morgan, May Britt, Sarah Vaughan,
Joseph Campanella, Morey Amsterdam. Memorable for the scene where
"Columbo" stabs "Buddy" in the gut.

Sunday - 1:05pm, 8:00pm, Monday morning - 5:00am - Bravo - The "Dusty
Springfield: Full Circle" documentary gets a few more airings. Very
good, lots of cool 60s footage. Presented by Jennifer Saunders and Dawn
French. Sadly, if you haven't heard, Dusty is now in her second battle
with cancer.

Sunday night (or is it Monday morning) - Midnight, Monday - 7:00pm,
Tuesday - 5:00am - Bravo - The recently mentioned "Soul Of Stax"
documentary runs again. It's not actually a new production from Bravo,
but a French/British production done a few years ago.

"Teletubbies" -- er, yes. Fans of unusual television should indeed
catch an episode. I wouldn't want to make a habit of watching it, but I
have seen one episode, and it's definitely very odd. Then again, if you
can't handle "sickly pop" (to use Jill's phrase), you might want to
steer clear. Check your local PBS station's morning schedule.

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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Disney again!
Date: 04 Aug 1998 23:39:34 EST


Nat wrote:
> << DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!!
>  End of discussion.
I'll put it more politely... With all due respect to Walt, the
Enchanted Tiki Room, and the great Disney imagination of the past,
being neither a Spielberg fan nor a frequent visitor to McDonalds,
I haven't got a whole lot of respect for what its become.

In one of the more arrogant forms of corporate markerting greed,
Disney chose to "reissue" as "limited editions" classic Disney
films only once every xx years both to theatres and to video (of
course usually around key holidays and with convenient product
launches attached).  I think the strategy failed as most stores seem
to have large stocks. But really, depriving kids of these classics to
get higher sales, now that's worthy of respect! I won't even touch on
the remakes...

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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From: Peter C <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) That's his suit (but where's his shoes, LPs, and,  um...hisself?)
Date: 04 Aug 1998 23:29:57 -0700 (PDT)



---Lou Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>     Police are investigating the missing body as a possible theft.

Let┤s give them a clue: try nearest Thrift store

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Lord Hawke obit
Date: 04 Aug 1998 23:36:10 -0700 (PDT)


---Lou Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent (AP) -- Calypso singer Lloyd Providence,
betterknown as Lord Hawke, was found dead Monday morning in his home
on the Caribbean island of St. Vincent, police reported. He was 54.
>Providence appeared to have died from natural causes, police said.

Sounds more like Voodoo to me

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again!
Date: 05 Aug 1998 11:05:58 +0000


Brian Karasick wrote:

> I'll put it more politely... With all due respect to Walt, the
> Enchanted Tiki Room, and the great Disney imagination of the past,
> being neither a Spielberg fan nor a frequent visitor to McDonalds,
> I haven't got a whole lot of respect for what its become.
>
> In one of the more arrogant forms of corporate markerting greed,
> Disney chose to "reissue" as "limited editions" classic Disney
> films only once every xx years both to theatres and to video (of
> course usually around key holidays and with convenient product
> launches attached).  I think the strategy failed as most stores seem
> to have large stocks. But really, depriving kids of these classics to
> get higher sales, now that's worthy of respect! I won't even touch on
> the remakes...

After Walt's death things went awfully wrong... Walt would never ever have
allowed to serve food on paper plates with plastic forks in ... France!
MO*


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
Date: 05 Aug 1998 11:06:28 +0000


Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian
delegate: approved!

MO*


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply
Date: 05 Aug 1998 11:06:58 +0000


Carl Russo wrote:

> First paragraph from a VILLAGE VOICE article entitled "Rats! That Corporate
> Rodent Descends Upon Central Park--Again" by Guy Trebay (July 14, 1998)
>
> "Does anyone else get the creeps from that sinister rodent?  Or do people
> really still think of him as a jolly ambassador of all-American
> entertainment?  Is it possible some folks are at least a tiny bit disturbed
> by the bland iconic presence masking a corporate empire that reams Third
> World workers, banalizes American culture, and operates theme parks
> constructed along the lines of totalitarian dream states?  Or are we all too
> besotted watching Disney ratchet up the Dow to notice the ominous shadow of
> mouse ears darkening the land?"

While these interpretations must seem familiar to any intelligent soul that
ever encountered the Disney empire, the fascination of Disneyland remains. It
is not despite but because of this ambiguity of the glossy surface on one hand
and the law & orderdly, well... fascist, background of it on the other. You can
actually SEE how society works when watching this masterpiece dreamland of
manipulation "between the lines". An extremely interesting subject, that,
nonetheless, has very little or nothing to do with the "mission" of the Exotica
Mailing list. IS there a Disney list?

MO*

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:34:30 +0100


Is endless dicussion about the morality of, and experiences within thri=
ft
stores boring? Yes

Is continual discussion of Disney equally tedious? Yes

Would we all like to see the list return to the discussion of records? =
Yes

I just bought a couple of records (Werner Muller and Gordons War both
discussed only a few days ago) from Mark - a dealer of rareities in Bri=
xton
(south London). Last night on my way home, I turned on GLR where I hear=
d
some obscure rare groove. When the DJ turned to his guest, Lo and behol=
d it
was Mark, anorak supreme and accumulator of over =A31,000,000 worth of
records in his bedroom.
I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised because his photocopied list
which arrives on my front door every two weeks varies from =A315 to =A3=
300 for
records and regularly features descriptions such as: 'Obscure Greek fun=
k LP
with tight grooves and a touch of jazz - outstanding track 'Good Man' -=

=A3275.
And I thought I knew a bit about vinyl.....




Charlie
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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re exotica suggestions
Date: 05 Aug 1998 04:47:23 PDT


Nat wrote:-

>Well I don't take my mambo seriously - whatever that means - but I do
>prefer Cugat and Prado yes.  I don't think they took it seriously
>either. I don't really know what serious mambo is.  I think all these
>guys did "American-ized" commercial mambo records and didn't give a
>hoot about authenticity.  And neither do I.

Without getting into Cuban politics (Please), Mambo is "American-ized"
that is the real mambo, exiles music, more New York and Florida than
Havana. The authenticity was embracing American tastes.


>Seguing from "if I were a rich man" to "hava nagila" is just another
>terribly clever juxtaposition of two tunes associated with Jews.  I
>heard a similarly clever segueway from every Bar Mitzvah band working
>the circuit in the sixties. Clever medleys are for some reason, still
>at the bottom of the list for me.

Very good point. I agree with you, I was merely saying that Edmundo's
inappropriateness is what I like (also some backing vocal arrangements)

>>You may have lost your jazz purism but it seems you like your
>>exotica with a puritan flavour!

>Well okay, I know that's a flame but as a paid-up member of the
>anti-Edmondo army (a division of Self-Righteous Arbiters of Taste),
>I'm used to flames.

I apologise, that was certainly not intended as a flame.

>It's interesting to see someone use the words "exotica" and "puritan"
>in the same sentence.
  CUT
>If wanting the excitement is puritanical, well I guess I'll have to
>give those puritans another look.

>How about another word?  Joy.

I misconstrued your distaste for Edmundo, I thought it was over his
commercialism etc. which would, given the nature of this list be, I
think a mite strange. As I've said before it is the reclaiming of
discarded junk culture that is, for me one of the central joys of
exotica. Like in the Spanish film "Accion Mutante" where a gang of ugly
rebels break up a society wedding party shouting "you're all lobotomised
by beauty and coolness" we liberate the grievously unhip and appreciate
old pop culture. In such a situation being authentic is not an issue, as
Brian Eno said about soul, everybody's faking. And they are you know,
it's called art and it can be good or bad. I wouldn't suggest Ros is
better than Prado or Cugat, but he is worthy of a spin on the Technics.

>Edmondo's records only have one groove on each side.

OUch!

all the best
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry
Date: 05 Aug 1998 07:28:18 -0700 (PDT)


I just bumped into this in the letters section of Golmine magazine.

" Hippies are Beatniks

      Your featured 5-Star Record in issue 464 (Goldmine, May 8, 1998)
 was  Rod Mckuen Takes a San Francisco Hippie Trip.  This Everest
label featured in your article actually took Rod McKuen's Beatsville
(1959) which is found on the Hi-fi label, and changed the album title
and song titles in order to attract the  1967 hippie listeners.  Songs
on the original Beatsville record include Co-existence Bagel Shop
Blues,  Haik poems, and a Gallery of Assorted Beats.  In other words
San Francisco Hippie Trip is Beatsville."

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 05 Aug 1998 10:28:41 EDT


You hate finding beaten up records...I understand, but one of the most
pleasant surprises to me in collecting this genre is the amount of records in
excellent condition, nearly untouched, unlike 6T's and 7T's rock and soul
which inevitably is beaten un, especially in thrift shops...Jimmy/"Jimmy's
Easy" on WMBR-FM, Cambridge


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) re: More on Thrifts
Date: 05 Aug 1998 10:30:29 EDT


I can't figure out why Emerson College, Boston didn't call one of the MASNY
excellent used record stores in  their immediate area to come down and buy the
vinyl they threw out..Lack of communication from a Communications College
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity
Date: 05 Aug 1998 10:32:54 EDT


Bert Kaempfert's songs really come alive when Wayne Newton sings them on the
old Capitol recordings: Danke Schoen, Wiedersein (sp?), Remember When,
others.......


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
Date: 05 Aug 1998 09:09:56 -0600



>I just bought a couple of records (Werner Muller and Gordons War both
>discussed only a few days ago) from Mark - a dealer of rareities in Brixton
>(south London).=20

>I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised because his photocopied list
>which arrives on my front door every two weeks varies from =A315 to =A3300

>And I thought I knew a bit about vinyl.....
>

Most dealers should know about what they sell. I know Mark too and I think
he sells a few things a bit on the pricey side although his selection of
stuff is rather tasty. Just because a record sells for a lot of money
doesn't make it good. Although most good records that are hard to find
generally can sell for a lot of money. Or you can find 'em at a thrift=
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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply
Date: 05 Aug 1998 00:22:58 -0700


At 10:12 AM 8/4/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>>>DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!!  End of discussion.

The reason I agree that Disney sucks is the way the pull their movies out
of print reguarly.  What's the reason why a video is released, only to stop
releasing it 18 months later, then wait seven more years only to release it
in the theatres, followed by another 18-month video release?

I'll tell you this much - it has nothing to do with Disney Corp's love for
kids.  Walt would be ashamed.

Dave


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From: "Basta Audio Visuals" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Nathan van Cleave
Date: 05 Aug 1998 09:32:45 +0200


Anyone knows where to find a picture or photo of Mr. Nathan van Cleave ?
Really need this for a new album coming up.
ASCAP doesn`t have it, nor do they give phonenumbers of relatives. I have
searched on the Net, but no pictures of him.
If anyone has a picture, please contact me at basta @ xs4all . nl

Thanks

Jeroen van der Schaaf
Basta Audio Visuals
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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ...
Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:38:24 -0400


It should be noted too, that Kaempfert was at least partially responsible
for penning the canonized -- if ultimately mediocre -- tunes "Danke Schoen"
(as already mentioned), "Wonderland by Night," "Spanish Eyes," and
"Strangers in the Night."  BTW, ever notice how these four are really
essentially the same song?

Which, I think, points up why Kaempfert's stuff is oddly compelling to me
(you were *dying* to hear what I had to say, weren't you .... no?).  To me,
Bert was such a skilled formulist (like Conniff & Alpert, who also share a
similar ill-repute), that he went about creating a sound that's so
distinctly his own that there's no mistaking a Kaempfert recording.  And,
it's a sound that's uniquely evocative of a certain mid-Sixites suburban
experience.  (That experience?  Well, grocery shopping.)

Of course, he had those quirky perky tunes that were used so often for
"please stand by" stock on UHF channels (just like Alpert's stuff).  I also
seem to recall them being used as theme songs for cheapo 3pm cartoon shows
I used to watch while sporting training pants & eating Graham crackers.

(There's also an Xmas tune used ... unless I'm mis-remembering ... pretty
often to sell Ronco crap on TV in the 70s.  Same tune, I think, used in
Christmas with the Schmenges on SCTV.)

Now, the problem is (as has been pointed out here), that there's maybe a
small compilations-worth of these quirky tunes, and the rest of his stuff
is pretty shuffling and conventional.  Distinctively Kaempfert, to be sure,
but your mind really can't help but wander while listening to this stuff.
Unless .... you're a bonehead like me & find even his duller tunes to be
interesting now & again.

There's a strange remoteness to this stuff that sometimes really sucks me
in.  Kinda like the music just plods along on its own without anyone really
taking responsibility for it ... almost like the individual players are
doing their own thing & it adds up to an arrangement only by accident
(though, of course, it *is* meticulously arranged).  The ka-chunk bass &
drop-kick drum are so regular and monotonous they almost sound mechanical.
Also, what I think of as the "stairwell" approach to music engineering ...
there's always this weird echo going on that makes it sound like the
recording took place in a fire tower in some high-rise.  And, it's easy to
not notice unless you're trying to find them, there's often a chorus of
voices filling out the arrangement somewhere ... but you can't *really* be
sure those are human voices ...

In the end, though, even an oddball like me can only find this stuff
compelling for short bursts.  And then I wake up 'cause the record needs to
be flipped.

This sorta reveals one of the problems I have sometime with the whole
exotica thing ... I wonder if anyone else battles this, too.  Sometimes I
find myself rationalizing myself into "liking" something.  (Like, "Well, it
has an organ & a piano & some vibes & plucky guitar.  Playing "Night and
Day."  Therefore it's groovy.  Howcomes it really sux?")  With this record
hunting obsession, so much of what we lug home ends up being disappointing,
that it can be easy to lose sight of the sounds we're looking for.  Until,
that is, you put the needle onto the first track of a great new find, and
MAN-OH-MAN HOOO-BOY YES!!, you're reminded of what you makes you loony for
these sounds in the first place.

I guess I need to remind myself to just play the damn records & tap my damn
foot & don't try to think so much.  Know-what-i'm-saying?  Anyone?




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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) sorry......
Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:56:49 Pacific Daylight Time


Bert Kaempfert did not write Wonderland By Night. It was written by the team Gunter/Newmann, who wrote
the German and English lyrics as well.

Darren!


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Would Taylor Deems this necessary?
Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:54:42 -0400


>The reason I agree that Disney sucks is the way the pull their movies out
>of print reguarly.

They also pull the "We're only making x number of these and then they are
gone!" hype.  They did this with Fantasia and the deadline came and went
and it was STILL readily available long afterwards.  I don't mind that it
was, however, tell the truth (wahwahwahwah Ooooo)

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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) sorry ...
Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:12:32 -0400


>Bert Kaempfert did not write Wonderland By Night. It was written by the
>team >Gunter/Newmann, who wrote the German and English lyrics as well.

Oops!  Mebbe I'm wrong about the others, too ... guess I'd been lulled once
too often by the Bert version of "Wonderland" & assumed it was his.  :)
(Boy, I've thought that one to be true for so long ....)

Never a fact-checker shall I be,

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer
Date: 05 Aug 1998 19:23:34 +0200


"keir keightley" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>_Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer_ (Warner Archive Series).  This
>contains 2 full LPs made for Warner Bros. in 1965-66, plus some
>tracks from an instrumental Jobim album _Love, Strings, and Jobim_.
>This stuff is not as smooth as _The Composer Plays_, but over time
>I've come to love the shaky roughness of Jobim's voice (and none of
>this is on the Verve box set).

    Combines the original LP's "The wonderful world of Antonio Carlos
Jobim" (1965, arranged by Nelson Riddle) and "A certain Mr. Jobim" (1967,
arranged by Claus Ogerman), plus 2 tracks from "Love, strings and Jobim"
(1966), plus 4 previously unreleased tracks, recorded during the "A certain
Mr. Jobim" session. The legendary Brazilian composer performs his own
songs, singing on 19 of the 28 tracks (the others being instrumental).
Despite Jobim's pleasingly vulnerable voice, I think these are not really
the best versions around of his songs, as Riddle's and Ogerman's honey
strings smooth out that typical "tristesse" quality of the bossa nova, and
the English lyrics don't have that exotic touch of the Portuguese. This is
velvet bossa nova targeted to Sinatra fans. Tracks: "She's A Carioca",
"Agua De Beber", "Surfboard", "Useless Landscape", "So' Tinha De Ser Com
Voce", "A Felicidade", "Bonita", "Favela", "Valsa De Porto Das Caixas",
"Samba Do Aviao", "Por Toda A Mimha Vida", "Dindi", "Hurry Up And Love Me",
"Pardon My English", "Bonita", "Se Todos Fossem Iguais A Voce", "Off-Key",
"Photograph", "Surfboard", "Outra Vez", "I Was Just One More For You",
"Estrada Do Sol", "Don't Ever Go Away", "Zingaro", "Esperanca Perdida",
"Fotographia", "Por Causa De Voce", "Desafinado".

        Johan


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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Funk)
Subject: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach
Date: 05 Aug 1998 09:57:43 -1000


This might be of interest to some...

Last night I picked up the CD "Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach". It's
on the DCC label and has just been issued on CD for the first time.

A little sticker on the cover says "COOL JAZZ".

Well, not really. More like semi-sedated lounge-pop.

Instrumental, of course, the group is Cal on vibes with much organ,
electric bass, guitar, backbeat drummer, and occasional appearances by
strings, reeds, and brass.  Recorded in 1968.

There's a semi-"funky" version of "Say a Little Prayer", as well as a
somehow mysterious rendition of "Message to Michael".  Other tunes include
"My Little Red Book", "What The World Needs Now" and "Walk On By".... all
the hits, 9 in all. Most are taken at EZ tempos. I would hesitate to call
any of it "swingin'" and hardly even "jazz".  The drummer, in particular,
does little else but unobtrusively beat time.

This is pretty "cheezy", possibly thrown together very quickly, most songs
fade out, and playing time is short (about 30 minutes, but cheap at around
$10).  But I love it, and it started growing on me almost immediately. I
played it again right after the first listen, which is about as good a
compliment as I can give.

Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling it's
not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could elaborate.
His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is anyone
else's, which is sort of the appeal.

Mr. Funk gives it a surprising score of 8 out of 10.

***     ***     ***
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Question List - Please re-post
Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:01:31 EDT


Can someone post the question list again so those interested in filling it out
can do so?  The list without someone completing it already would be more
helpful.

Robert


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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores -Reply
Date: 04 Aug 1998 16:06:52 -0400


<<<Your heart can skip a beat or two when
you ask for the hell of it whether they have any records and moments later
you see one of them emerge with a "fresh" box of records.>>>

Geez - I LOVE this list !!!!!!! ;-)

- Nate




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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gravelands
Date: 05 Aug 1998 20:07:02 +0200


Anyone's heard this yet?

Arjan


GRAVELANDS by THE KING & THE QUESTIONAIRES
(BRILLIANT CD OF AN ELVIS IMITATOR COVERING CLASSIC SONGS BY DEAD
>
>    1.Come As You Are
>    2.Love Will Tear Use Apart
>    3.Working Class Hero
>    4.Whiskey In The Jar
>    5.Blockbuster
>    6.I Heard It Through The Grapevine
>    7.No Woman No Cry
>    8.All Or Nothing
>    9.20th Century Boy
>   10.Piece Of My Heart
>   11.Dock Of The Bay
>   12.Voodoo Chile
>   13.Riders On The Storm / The End

Apparently there will be German release out with some extra tracks like
"Song of the Siren"




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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:13:17 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-05 05:07:20 EDT, M.O. writes:

<< Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian
 delegate: approved! >>

Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern Exotica
Confederacy delegate: approved!

IMPORTANT NOTE:  Delegate requires the record to show that disregard of input
or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will result in
the secession of said Confederacy from the list.  And yes, Dixie is considered
exotica music by many.

Robert "E." Brooks

P.S.  Ask me about my great cousin Preston some day.


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach
Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:16:42 -0400


> Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling
it's
> not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could
elaborate.
> His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is
anyone
> else's, which is sort of the appeal.

Two current Tjader re-issue CDs that I think are mighty fine (both on
Verve)...

"Several Shades of Jade/Breeze From The East" - A two-on-one with
Tjader working with large ensembles. "Shades" was done in collaboration
with none other than Lalo Schifrin. "Breeze" in collaboration with Stan
Applebaum. Both date from 1963. For me, "Shades" is a much stronger
piece of work, with "Breeze" coming off a bit tinny in comparison, but
opinions can vary (and I think they have here), so don't mind mine.
According to the notes, Tjader was none too pleased with "Breeze"
himself.

"Soul Sauce" - Dates from 1964 and finds Tjader back in a small combo,
probably in reaction to "Breeze". This is more hard-core Latin-jazz.
Players include Lonnie Hewitt, Willie Bobo, Donald Byrd, Jimmy Heath,
Alberto Valdes, Armando Peraza, Grady Tate.

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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
Date: 05 Aug 1998 11:33:12 -0700


Say, RC....

Did you have a cousin by the name of Preston?

Pray tell us about him.

: >


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Another Cool Book
Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:44:53 -0400


I had only looked at this briefly when I put it into the FAQ, but after
finally spending some time with this book, this is the shit!

Hawaiian Music and Musicians: An Illustrated History
George S. Kanahele, ed.
(1979, University Press of Hawaii)
ISBN 0-8248-0578-X

It's organized Encyclopedia-style, so it takes a bit of jumping around to
get the big picture--but I have been searching for a book like this for
YEARS. (Does anyone know if there's been anything published a bit more
recently?)

I've loved "Hawaiian" albums, both genuine and cheezoid, for a long time.
This book is just packed with the kind of background I always wanted, to
help sort out which is which--plus it has entries on all the better-known
"Hawaiian" hit songs, about key instruments like the 'ukulele and steel
guitar, and so on.

One reason Hawaiian music is fascinating to me is that the whole question
of "authenticity" is so totally muddled there--and according to this book
it's even stranger than I ever knew. "Traditional" Hawaiian music turns out
to be a total mongrel of Polynesian chant, Christian hymns, instruments
brought to the islands by foreign cowboys and sailors. . . Meanwhile,
Hawaii has been enthusiatically exporting its music and instuments for a
hundred years, with the result that credible "hawaiian" msuic has been
created in all corners of the globe--some of which returned home to become
part of the standard repertoire. It's wacky.

Basically, Hawaiian musicians have not been shy about adopting whatever
innovations from other musics they liked the sound of, yet somehow still
retaining a Hawaiian identity. Lets hear it for Hybrid Vigor!

Aloha,

 --Ross

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:01:08 -0700 (PDT)


Has Elvis ever posted to this list?


[e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> << Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes:
Bavarian
>  delegate: approved! >>
>
> Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern
Exotica
> Confederacy delegate: approved!
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE:  Delegate requires the record to show that disregard
of input
> or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will
result in
> the secession of said Confederacy from the list.  And yes, Dixie is
considered
> exotica music by many.
 Robert "E." Brooks

> P.S.  Ask me about my great cousin Preston some day.

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD
Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:09:05 -0700


Attention:

New CD Reissue just added:

Original Soundtrack:

Jerry Goldsmith; Planet of the Apes - $8 plus shipping

Originally released in 1968 on Project 3 Total Sound Stereo

Sharp jagged brassy musical figures within an AMAZING ORCHESTRA with
Unbe-lieve-a-ble arrangements, serious spookiness with OMINOUS AMOUNTS of
wild and weird Percussion with Reverb and Echo all throughout the entire
score.

EXTREMELY JUNGLE JAZZ-ESQUE.  Tribal Voodoo Pounding!!!

Extremely Dramatic and Incredible, all KILLER...from beginning to end,
I shit you not

A masterpiece soundtrack by the man that also brought us In Like Flint, Our
Man Flint, Man from UNCLE, Sebastian, music for the TV version of The
Twilight Zone
et al...

It is EXTREMELY EXOTIC for All Hours and Moods of the Day or Night.
Really tremendous soundtrack with 1 title Previously unreleased*

Titles;  Main Title. The Revelation, The Clothes Snatchers, *The Hunt, New
Identity, The Forbidden Zone, The Search, The Cave, A Bid For Freedom, A
New Mate, No Escape.

Haven't seen the vinyl FOR YEARS...This is the motherload for only 8 bucks.

Christmas is closer than you think and I have a few copies soooooooooooo;)

$8 plus shipping

Thank you all once again


Jack

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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply -Reply
Date: 04 Aug 1998 15:57:07 -0400




>>> <[e-mail]> 08/04/98 12:10pm >>>

In a message dated 98-08-04 11:19:10 EDT, Nat wrote:

<< DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!!
=20
 End of discussion.
  >>

and like he would just throw one of those Tiki Room ablums in the shit can =
if
one came across his desk???>>>

I already passed this album up for .50 so there!!

And, there's a Nat on this list, so let's get the flaming to the right =
person - I'm Nate.

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From: Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD
Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:34:16 -0700


At 12:09 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Jack wrote:
>
>Attention:
>New CD Reissue just added:
>Original Soundtrack:
>Jerry Goldsmith; Planet of the Apes - $8 plus shipping

There have been a couple of budget-priced Planet of the Apes soundtracks
around for a while, but there is a recent re-issue which is the only one
I'd recommend, although I believe its NOT budget priced (prob around $15):

Planet of the Apes, Varese Sarabande, VSD5848, 1997

This is the only CD reissue which has the ENTIRE score, I think.  The
others have only highlights.  Also included is a 16 1/2 minute suite from
"Escape to the Planet of the Apes."  The liner notes are superb, and the
smart remastering provides excellent sound quality.

I completely agree with the fact that this soundtrack is REQUIRED listening
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats
Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:33:23 -0700 (PDT)


Been listening to "the mighty mellow" on Partners in Crime (1997) from
http://www.interactive.net/~tomc

This has to be one of the smoothest mellowest funkiest psychedelic
easy listening experiences in my whole collect of vinyl & plastic
covered aluminum.
I can't imagine anyoe not liking this on the list. Its a  70 minute
must own escapade into very sophisticated  sounds.

Not quite as impressive but another must own treat is "erotica ITALIA"
on BMG Eurodisc (Arista 3484) 1997  Its title is quite appropriate for
describing the sound of the music. It also says "The 'Kama Sutra of
Italian erotic movie music from the 1960's and 70's, compiled and
presented by Patrick Whitaker and Martin Green, Th Sound Curators"  (
Who we all know from the Sound Gallery and Sound Spectrum. ) Excuse me
but I can't remember if this particular cd was already mentioned on
the list.

From France comes "ollano" by ollano on Rosebus records and Barclay
533-249-2 (1996) again form Tom at [e-mail]   I heard
about this band on the Music to Watch Comets By compilation by the
Gentle People.   This cd contains great vocals by a pair of different
female vocalists, one earthy and the other from heaven, her voice on
"Lattitudes" from the Pink Panther  is worth the price of the cd by
itself.   The songs are straight ahead lounge ballads French exotica
with half of the songs containing very modern acid jazz influences.

From http://www.dustygroove.com    comes "idyllic" a 1997  idyllic
records compilation with the Silent Poets, Spiritual Vibes, Natural
Calaity, & Nobukazu Takemura. A variety of styles some Bossa
influenced Japanese vocals, some easy sounds bording on Ambient and
some ambient.  It is way out there and I give it a 7 out of 10.
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD
Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:32:40 -0700 (PDT)


Dave:

Another good reason why Varese Sarabande is one of the premier labels
out these days.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck

---Dave Davidson  wrote:
> I'd recommend, although I believe its NOT budget priced (prob around
$15):
> Planet of the Apes, Varese Sarabande, VSD5848, 1997

> This is the only CD reissue which has the ENTIRE score, I think.
The others have only highlights.  Also included is a 16 1/2 minute
suite from "Escape to the Planet of the Apes."  The liner notes are
superb, and the smart remastering provides excellent sound quality.
 I completely agree with the fact that this soundtrack is REQUIRED
listening (and owning).
>
> Dave

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL
Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:52:44 -0700


Hello all,

I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue  of the
"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666

Excellent pressing, original front and back covers, Inside Full Color Sleeve
Inna word...GOR-GEEEE-OUS.

Inside and Out a real beauty

$20 plus shipping, Ltd to 1,000 copies

Remember, a few means a few

Thanks again,
Jack

Hello all,

I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue  of the
"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666

Excellent pressing, original front and back covers, Inside Full Color Sleeve
Inna word...GOR-GEEEE-OUS.

Inside and Out a real beauty

$20 plus shipping, Ltd to 1,000 copies

Remember, a few means a few

Thanks again,
Jack


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again!
Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:54:23 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

> << After Walt's death things went awfully wrong... Walt would never ever have
>  allowed to serve food on paper plates with plastic forks in ... France! >>
>
> I don't know if I agree with this.  Walt was a lot more shrewd that you think.

??? In my dictionary "shrewd" means "smart". So? That's what I think he was...
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From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) Chapman's Lennon album goes on sale
Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:04:41 GMT


    WASHINGTONVILLE, N.Y., Aug. 5 (UPI) -- A Washingtonville,
N.Y., company is selling the record album John Lennon autographed for
Mark David Chapman before he killed the Beatle.
    Moments in Time president Gary Zimet said today he got the
piece of memorabilia from a man who claims he found it in the front
gate flower planter outside Lennon's Manhattan apartment building, the
Dakota.
    According to Zimet, the ``Double Fantasy'' album bears the
singer's signature and Chapman's forensically enhanced fingerprints.
    He adds that prosecutors used the record cover and dust jacket
as evidence in the killer's trial and when they returned it to the
owner, sent a letter of gratitude.
    Moments in Time is asking for $1.8 million for the album,
which comes with full documentation.
    Chapman fatally shot the legendary performer in front of the
Dakota on the night of Dec. 8, 1980. A picture of Lennon signing
Chapman's copy of the recordings appeared in newspapers and on
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Autographed LPs
Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:07:46 -0500



    WASHINGTONVILLE, N.Y., Aug. 5 (UPI) -- A Washingtonville,
N.Y., company is selling the record album John Lennon autographed for
Mark David Chapman before he killed the Beatle.
    Moments in Time president Gary Zimet said today he got the
piece of memorabilia from a man who claims he found it in the front
gate flower planter outside Lennon's Manhattan apartment building, the
Dakota.
    According to Zimet, the ``Double Fantasy'' album bears the
singer's signature and Chapman's forensically enhanced fingerprints.
    He adds that prosecutors used the record cover and dust jacket
as evidence in the killer's trial and when they returned it to the
owner, sent a letter of gratitude.
    Moments in Time is asking for $1.8 million for the album,
which comes with full documentation.
    Chapman fatally shot the legendary performer in front of the
Dakota on the night of Dec. 8, 1980. A picture of Lennon signing
Chapman's copy of the recordings appeared in newspapers and on
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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again!
Date: 05 Aug 1998 15:12:19 PDT



Yes, but with complementary calculation, slyness. This Disney thing is
growing tiresome though, isn't it? The thing is no more, nor should it
ever be taken as anything more shimmering or nefarious than a bright
little blister under the armpit of our lovely and too self-obsessed
western culture. I do like your use of "Magick" in ref. to the Walt's
place - as though after all the kiddies and their plump pink parents had
split and the last woozy teen revived from his Goofy suit, the Master
Therion sheds his Michael Eisner and plots the next act of sappy
celluloid venifice.

Oh, and Disney store says no go on Tiki Room Reissue. Fiends.
>
>??? In my dictionary "shrewd" means "smart". So? That's what I think he
was...
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) That Insufferable Mr. Jenkins
Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:23:59 -0500


FWD:

<*> Meanwhile, Thinking Media's Don Westrich says they've
created the coolest banner ever, bar none.
The goal of their Java applet is to help Tanqueray's Mr.
Jenkins get an olive into a Martini glass. A lever lets
you control how hard Mr. Jenkins swings the golfclub.

Since the olive gets picked up by birds or lands in water
traps, it's a devilishly difficult game! But fear not, cause
while you play the game on a "sitelet" you can see ads for
Bloomberg, CMP, Hollywood Stock Exchange and Playboy. Check
it out at the URL below and click on "Turf" (Golf Game).

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL
Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:34:49 -0500


At 01:52 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Jaaaack wrote:
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue  of the
>"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666

OK, now I'm confused! Didn't we conclude that these Limited Edition Spanish
import LPs (like Moon Gas) are pirate copies. Does this mean Jack is selling
illegal copies of his own legit re-issue?!? What gives?

-Lou




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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Question List
Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:43:17 -0500


At 02:01 PM 8/5/98 EDT, Robert wrote:
>Can someone post the question list again so those interested in filling it out
>can do so?  The list without someone completing it already would be more
>helpful.

OK, here it is once again. To make it interesting, why not add at least one
previously un-asked question? I've added a few new ones for this time around.
-Lou

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

> 3. This list could help you more by...

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> Tell us more!

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

> 9. Shaken or stirred?

> 10. I clean my LPs with ...

> 11. My home page URL is:

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD
Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:44:52 EDT


Wait a second here.  Varese Sarbande recently re-issued this CD with more
bonus tracks, better sound, and the incredible "Suite From Escape From The
Planet of The Apes".  Don't buy the old version for $8.00.  Go out to a decent
CD store and get the remastered and longer version.  It sounds great!

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Subject: (exotica) Fwd: Burt & Elvis info
Date: 05 Aug 1998 19:05:32 EDT


FYI, everybody...
--Rod
-------------

Spin On-Line reports some info regarding the upcoming Elvis/Burt Bacharach
album.  The tentative track listing is as follows:

  *In The Darkest Place
  *Toledo
  *I Still Have That Other Girl
  *This House Is Empty Now
  *Tears At The Birthday Party
  *Such Unlikely Lovers
  *My Thief
  *The Long Division
  *Painted From Memory
  *The Sweetest Punch
  *What's Her Name Today?

Guest appearances have been mentioned from ex-Attraction Steve Nieve,
drummer Jim Keltner, bassist Greg Cohen, and guitarist Dean Parks.  Spin
On-Line refers to Painted From Memory as a 12 track album, yet only 11 are
listed.  Release dates are September 29 for the US, September 28 for
international release, and September 2 in Japan.  The Japanese release is
said to contain one bonus track.

Billboard also reports that they will be releasing an album of jazz
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From: Thom Heileson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Ducks Reply
Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:48:07 -0700



> "Does anyone else get the creeps from that sinister rodent?  Or do people
> really still think of him as a jolly ambassador of all-American
> entertainment?  Is it possible some folks are at least a tiny bit disturbed
> by the bland iconic presence masking a corporate empire that reams Third
> World workers, banalizes American culture, and operates theme parks
> constructed along the lines of totalitarian dream states?  Or are we all too
> besotted watching Disney ratchet up the Dow to notice the ominous shadow of
> mouse ears darkening the land?"

While these interpretations must seem familiar to any intelligent soul
that
ever encountered the Disney empire, the fascination of Disneyland
remains. It
is not despite but because of this ambiguity of the glossy surface on
one hand
and the law & orderdly, well... fascist, background of it on the other.
You can
actually SEE how society works when watching this masterpiece dreamland
of
manipulation "between the lines".

Along these lines of discussion, I _heartily_ recommend finding a copy
of "How To Read Donald Duck" - it's a 1971 Chilean Marxist
deconstruction of DD comix. Pretty entertaining, and interesting. Much
of it goes way too far, but there are some poignant points made. Finds
capitalist symbolism in the plots, character relationships, and the fact
that none of the ducks wear pants. (This was assigned reading for an MFA
seminar of mine...)

Thom
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Whither Vik?
Date: 05 Aug 1998 19:57:21 -0400


Two things that I noted in tonight's web crawl...

1) The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net
broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA (an organization of the major
record companies) -- this is in addition to the existing payments to ASCAP &
BMI (totally separate organizations, as explained recently by Br. Cleve). And
no, traditional radio has never had to pay any such fee (and will still not
have to).
Story at:
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,24940,00.html

2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"!
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/radiovik.html

Are these items connected?

If you haven't been following it, the "majors" have been getting very cranky
lately regarding internet audio. With the possibility of new technology
obsoleting their lucrative role as middle-men between the artists and the
listeners, I think we may see things get very nasty.

King Kini -- watch your back!

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Saving Jessica
Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:05:57 -0500


At 08:40 AM 8/4/98 -0700, Chuck wrote:
>
>First Irwin left, then Jack and now the Vinyl Collecting Queen of the
>Exotica Scene, who is next?
>
>Jessica you are in our exotica prayers, I hope all is well.

Didn't she have an .edu e-mail account? Perhaps she's on a roadtrip during
summer break.

-Lou




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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flint CD
Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:21:00 -0400



Someone mentioned a few weeks ago that the "Our Man Flint/In Like Flint" CD
had different mixes than those found on the original LP's. I finally got to
hear this CD the other day and discovered that it is not the original LP's
at all, but the original soundtrack cues from the actual film. Anyone who
has the albums and has seen the films knows that both theme songs are
slightly different in the films than on the records (longer; different into
on "Our Man...."). The giveaway in the liner notes is the line "mastered
from the original 35mm recordings". Soundtrack albums were recorded at
different sessions than the film tracks, and had oftentimes had different
arrangements, shorter cues stretched out to make them more like a record
track, etc.

The most different track is "Ladies, Please Remove Your Hats"; it does not
have the same intro as the version on the "In Like....." album, which was
sampled by Dimitri and The Gentle People.

Overall, the sound quality is pretty amazing. If you own the LP's, the CD
is still highly recommended. And vice versa.

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats
Date: 05 Aug 1998 20:28:37 -0400


At 1:33 PM -0700 8/5/98, chuck wrote:

>>From France comes "ollano" by ollano on Rosebus records and Barclay
>533-249-2 (1996) ....  The songs are straight ahead lounge ballads French
>exotica
>with half of the songs containing very modern acid jazz influences.

For the U.S. members of the list - this album is due to be released as a
domestic issue sometime this fall. Sorry, I don't remember what label.
(Ashley? can you shed some light on this?)

I picked up the latest in the Easy Tempo series, volume 7, which is titled
"Bikini Beat". It's a fine collection of swinging, psychedelic Italian film
music, some of which appears on other (full soundtrack) releases on the
same label, such as "Sweden: Heaven & Hell", "Camille 2000", etc. But the
exciting news on the back cover is that they will soon be issuing the
granddaddy of 'em all, Piero Piccioni's score to "La Decima Vittima", AKA
"The 10th Victim", with bonus material not found on the very rare,
incredibly lo-fi OST (released on Mainstream in the U.S. in '65). Judging
from the 1 track on "Bikini Beat", the sound quality will be much better
than heard on that 33 year old album (or the bootleg of it that appeared a
few years ago).

What a year from the Italians. The comps, the soundtracks, the Danger:
Diabolik theme, and now this. To the Easy Tempo, Irma la Douce and Partners
In Crime record labels - Grazie!!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik?
Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:32:47 -0400


At 7:57 PM -0400 8/5/98, m.ace wrote:

>1) The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net
>broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA

>2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"!

>Are these items connected?

I'm sure Vik is aware of these legal issues, as by day he is a webmaster
for a record company. But in a related note, he told me last week that he
has shut down Vik's Lounge, but will be keeping it "frozen in time", like
the Space Age Bachelor Pad site.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ...
Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:34:23 -0400


At 12:38 PM 05/08/98 -0400, Chris Cook wrote:

>There's a strange remoteness to this stuff that sometimes really sucks me
>in.  Kinda like the music just plods along on its own without anyone really
>taking responsibility for it .. The ka-chunk bass &
>drop-kick drum are so regular and monotonous they almost sound mechanical.

> Sometimes I find myself rationalizing myself into "liking" something.

What I've found in the three years or so that I've been listening
constantly to ALL THIS STUFF we talk about - and Ross sort of touched on
this in his FAQ - is that I can listen to almost anything and maybe even
like almost anything.

Though I haven't stopped loving jazz, blues, soul, country and rock, I'd
have to admit that just by virtue of the number of records passing through
my apartment, the number of records I have to "check out", I've ended up
listening to "all this stuff" three times more than all the stuff put
together.  At this very moment, I'm listening to Roger Williams doing "Tiny
Bubbles".

A friend of mine had about 30 Roger Williams records and when I scoffed, he
said that he could make a pretty hot half a tape from those 30 records.
And I actually understood the logic there.  Then he played me a version of
"Frenesi" that kinda blew me away.  So today at the Goodwill I bought a
Roger Williams record I'd passed up a thousand times and so far I've heard
pretty good versions of "I'm a believer" and "Music to watch girls by" and
a very good version of "Sunrise, Sunset".

But the point is, I also blithely sat by as "Tiny Bubbles" was playing.
And that's what I'll probably do all night tonight.  No Coltrane, no Blind
Willie Johnson, no Yo La Tengo, no Al Green, no Louvin Brothers.  Instead
it'll be Roger Williams, Sandler and Young, The Great Strings (who?), Peter
Nero, "the accordion stylings of... Shelly Taylor", "organ fantasies in
hi-fi" by Shay Torrent and Ralph Bell and saving the best for last, "the
Happy Hammond goes Pop".

Maybe between all those records, I'll squeeze out 20 minutes on various
tapes.  Maybe one or two of those records will go on the "official record
shelves" and the rest will be hidden in dark corners for friends with worse
taste than me.

But that's what I'll be listening to tonight.  A lot of crap... separated
by moments where I think "oh this is not bad".  Or "I might use this on a
tape someday".

So yeah Bert Kaempfert mostly just "plods along".  And if you ask me "Do
you like the music of Bert Kaempfert", my answer will likely be "Hell no.
He's boring."  But that won't stop me from listening to him or even buying
his records, especially if it's a choice between that and coming home empty
handed, in which case I'd actually be forced to look through my records and
find something I used to love.

I think it's gotten to the point where my heart can only withstand
genuinely moving music about once a month.  And in preparation for that one
moment of potential bliss, I have to spend the rest of the month packing my
heart in cotton balls... like Bert Kaempfert.

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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats
Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:51:53 -0400


>For the U.S. members of the list - this album is due to be released as a
>domestic issue sometime this fall. Sorry, I don't remember what label.
I think Ollano's CD is out in the US on Shadow Records, in a nice
cardboard-type sleeve. "Latitude" is my favorite song on it, arranged by
strings master Bertrand Burgalat and with vocals by LNA, Lio's sister
(minute details for French pop fans out there). And speaking of Mr.
Burgalat, the brilliant album he produced for April March and which came
out only in Japan will be released by NickelBag in the US in the fall.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach
Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:54:07 -0400


At 09:57 AM 05/08/98 -1000, Stephen Funk wrote:

>Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling it's
>not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could elaborate.
>His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is anyone
>else's, which is sort of the appeal.

I don't know about his playing but I love Cal Tjader.  Anything by him...
even though I have to admit that the "West Side Story" LP I bought recently
was kind of mediocre.
I got turned (back) onto him by the only one of those cheezily packaged
Verve "Jazz Masters" CD's I've ever allowed myself to buy.  "Cuchi Frito"
on that collection is just amazing.
I also have a reissued LP of "Latin Kick" which is pretty cool and but
surprisingly a little more mellow than I expect Cal to be.  It's not all
mellow but some of the tunes sound like very good Martin Denny.
The coolest reissued thing I've bought - and which was discussed on this
list not long ago - is the 2-in-1 reissue of "Several Shades of Jade" and
"Breeze from the East".  "Several Shades", is truly great I think.   The
liner notes for the reissue claim that "Breeze" was pretty much a dog and
that it's only included in the package so as to allow "Shades" to shine
even more by comparison.
"Breeze" is certainly not the record "Shades" is but I kind of like it for
its cheeziness.

Cal Tjader is an example for me of an artist I once completely dismissed
who was totally elevated for me by my interest in exotica, lounge etc.  For
me he's now like the ULTIMATE lounge/exotica artist.  The cream of the genre.

It's amazing how much you can love something if you can just give up all
notions of taste.

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 05 Aug 1998 22:30:55 -0400


At 06:43 PM 05/08/98 -0500, Lou Smith wrote:

>> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

No.  My brother is but he wouldn't listen to these records if I paid him.

>> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

Toss up between Lenny Dee doing "Taste of Honey" and Al Caiola's "Sounds
for Spies and Private Eyes", particularly the tunes "Man of Mystery" and
"Bronze Doll".  And then there was "Persuasive" and "Provocative Percussion".

>> 3. This list could help you more by...

Everybody on the list accepting ALL my opinions... and sending me one of
their favorite records whenever they particularly agree.

>> 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Nothing.  Unless you differentiate between records and record jackets.  I
occasionally buy chachkes especially but except for their total
uselessness, there's no "theme" that ties them together.
I do however own one pretty unique piece of tiki paraphenalia and someday I
plan to send it to someone on this list if in return he will agree not to
post anything about Thor Heyerdahl for a whole month.

>>> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

Everything except The Moody Blues and The Three Tenors.  And of course the
she-beast Celine Dion.

>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

I think I've told you almost everything.  Except my real name.  And
eventually, if enough of you send me records or tapes, I'll be forced to
tell it to the rest of you.  Either that or get fake I.D. with "Nat Kone"
on it.  But even when you all know it, I still want you to call me Nat.

>> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
>> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
>> Tell us more!

Someday you will all hear my opinions about this in a more complete manner.
 (I probably should have included that under "things I'm dying to tell
you".) But for now, all I can say is that I don't own a single CD which
means as much to me as any piece of vinyl.  I know that not all CD's are as
replaceable as they seem but that is the way I feel about them.
Put it this way... I would never keep a CD unless I genuinely loved the
music on it.  I would never keep a CD for its sentimental or romantic
value. Or even for its "cool quotient".  Let me check the shelves for a
second to see if I can find an exception.
Okay, maybe that Russ Meyer CD thing qualifies as an object rather than
something I keep for the music but that's the only exception I could see.

I wouldn't buy a spoken word CD.  I wouldn't buy a Little Marcy CD.  I
wouldn't buy a CD called "The Sound of Streetcars" with Toronto streetcars,
circa the early sixties and liner notes meticulously mapping the routes the
streetcars took as they were recorded.

>>> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
>> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

Uh.. no, no and I'm not generally proud of clothes.

>> 9. Shaken or stirred?

At my age and size, stirred would probably be safer.
I've only had a martini once and I didn't like it.

>> 10. I clean my LPs with ...

When I clean them, which is seldom, my secret weapon is Ultra Palmolive for
Sensitive Skin.  And I use a paper towel and TAP WATER.  And I allow it to
dry in the drain board rather than pat it down with diapers.
But my friend has one of those vaccuum machines so occasionally he treats
me to a spin on the machine.


>> 11. My home page URL is:

I don't have one but I will within the year I think.

>> 12. I have a Licence To ...

Oh man.  Make your own jokes here.

"Have mixed emotions about everything".

Like I do right now about sending this...

Damn, I thought I was going to let this thread pass me by...

Nat



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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Who'se calling who tedious?
Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:11:16 EST


Charles Moseley wrote:
> Is endless dicussion about the morality of, and experiences within
> thrift stores boring? Yes
> Is continual discussion of Disney equally tedious? Yes
> Would we all like to see the list return to the discussion of records? =
> Yes
There's a hell of a lot more to Exotica (as there is to any
musical genre) than simply the music... but yes, the discussion of
records is and has always been the focus of this list, at least since
I've been subscribed. The only thing that's tedious here is having to
read these sorts of shallow comments!!!

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Another Cool Book
Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:37:36 EDT


Of course, the process by which "pure" Hawaiian music came to be is the same
process by which "pure" Bluegrass (incredible mongrel mixture of string band,
hot rhythm, Appalachian folk song, blues etc.) or most any other genre came to
fruition. Nothing pure about it - long live musical bastardy!

--David


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:41:31 EDT


If you think garage sales are creepy, wait until you go hardcore and start
checking for Estate Sales in the paper... (great way to snag goodies,
though)...

--David


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From: Jordana <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 05 Aug 1998 22:58:10 -0400


Lou Smith wrote:

> > 9. Shaken or stirred?
Um, chocolate?  Actually, I've never tasted a chocolate one, but I
think martinis are kind of gross.  I like girly drinks.

> > 10. I clean my LPs with ...
a damp paper towel for the cover, if it's really dingy.  I'm not in
the habit of cleaning my vinyl, though I know it's naughty of me.

> > 11. My home page URL is:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157

> > 12. I have a Licence To ...
Be Indecisive.

> >13. The first record I ever bought was...
Miss Piggy's Arobique Workout Album (and I still have it).

Jordana
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry
Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:57:45 EDT


I will note that Rod's "Hippie Trip" is a bowdlerized version of "Beatsville"
with some of the more risque lines in "Krakow's Party" (aka "RSVP") removed.
My buddy Kim Cooper did a whole article on this in her zine Scram.  (my next
article therein will be on the Archies if anybody has a taste for bubblegum).

--David


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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) An Exotica Moment in the Middle of Nowhere
Date: 05 Aug 1998 22:37:29


Driving back from Seattle last week, we stopped for lunch in Fort Stockton,
Texas, which at 250 miles from El Paso and 300 miles from San Antonio is
qualifies as the middle of nowhere.  Generic motel restaurant.  As we're
sitting there, I realized the background music was a regular exotica/easy
listening greatest hits fest:

"Wonderland at Night" by Bert Kaempfert
"Ebb Tide" by Frank Chacksfield
"Patricia" by Lenny Dee
"Poor People of Paris" by Les Baxter
"Quiet Village" by Martin Denny
"Delicado" by Percy Faith
"Holiday for Strings" by David Rose
"Shangri-La" by Jackie Gleason
"Miserlou" by Roger Williams or someone like him
"Lara's Theme" by Ray Conniff

and as I was paying and asking the cashier whether this was Muzak or tape
("Ah dunno"),

"The Third Man Theme" by Anton Karas

Almost made the mediocre food and service worth it.

But wait--there's more (as Count von Count would say):

We stopped to gas up before leaving, and I noticed that the little quarter
kids' carousel at the truck stop was playing a nickolodeon version of
"Lara's Theme."

DO NOT take this as a suggestion to visit Fort Stockton, though.

Brad
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con
Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:17 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-04 00:31:29 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< I do see record dealers in the thrifts....they come in, zero on the
 records, and then they usually leave.  With me, I'm also usually going
 to the book section, the painting section, the knick-knack section, the
 toy section, etc, etc...  I think someone like me will tend to have a
 more favorable view of thrifts and what they can provide versus the
 people who are only looking for one item. >>

You can bet there's dealers who peddle retro stuff at swap meets - they are
probably scouring thrifts every week (as well as attending auctions).  The
thrift stores know it, but how are they going to know a dealer from just an
average bargain hunter?  I imagine they figure out who some of the dealers are
because they are the ones coming in on a regular basis or asking alot of
questions, like "When does your shipments come in?"  How many of the thrifts
then figure out what those dealers are after and attempt to price gouge them
is a good question.

Just a few thoughts.

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:23 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-04 01:28:14 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College (Boston,
 MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection (around 40 years worth
 of records) into a dumpster, as part of their effort to 'modernize' their
 radio station [WERS-FM, the studio of which is being rebuilt].
 #!^$@*&!!!!!!!!!! >>

A total crime - at the very least they could have donated it to a library or a
small deserving campus.

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:24 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-04 02:57:52 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk up
 to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated
 debris of his life. Really gives me the heebie-jeebies. And then, if you
 don't buy anything, it's like you're telling him that his life was of no
 worth. ;) >>

Good luck Eb!  You know what it is like to get anything good at a garage sale?
The dealers line up on the front lawns at 5AM - so by the time you get there,
the good stuff is gone - unless you want to compete with the dealers - better
set your alarm clock.

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift store conspiracy
Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:21 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-04 01:24:17 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< In most large cities here, the thrifts are hit every day by dealers -
 antique dealers, record and book people, specialists in furniture and
 glass, etc. A friend has an antique barn up in New Hamshire, and he has the
 delivery times/days for every Salvation Army, etc in the area. He hits them
 all and buys up stuff to sell on the weekends. He sees all the same faces
 every morning, all of them dealers vying for and fighting over picking up
 the new stuff as it makes it way onto the sales floor. You should see the
 records he finds (and has found over the years). >>

Well that sort of throws the wrench into the thrifting in L.A. concept that
everybody here on the list wants to sell me.  "I've got a bridge in
Brooklyn....."  This is a big city with huge swap meets every weekend.  I
would have little hope then that dealers aren't scouring the local thrifts and
cleaning them out.  I'll stick to my record swapmeet and pay the prices!

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:45 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-04 12:15:43 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< A friend
 of mine who does it more seriously - and hits the outlying areas - picked
 up 450 records in the first few weeks of this season and he won't buy just
 anything.  >>

450 records??  And I' assume this is adding to an already established
collection!  I am now getting grief from Mike about the swap meet records:
"What? More records?  Where are you going to put them?"  Then he made me
promise that I wouldn't go back for  6 months and this is after you guys gave
me all those Bert Kaempfert and Edmundo Ros recommendations!

Where do you guys put all your records anyway?  I've only got one old Licorice
Pizza crate and its full of the old punk albums.

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Saving Jessica
Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:50 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-05 21:36:30 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< >First Irwin left, then Jack and now the Vinyl Collecting Queen of the
 >Exotica Scene, who is next? >>

Geez, she's been gone a long time!

- Michele


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Subject: (exotica) Suspicious motives....
Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:46 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-05 07:50:17 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< As I've said before it is the reclaiming of
 discarded junk culture that is, for me one of the central joys of
 exotica. >>

Excuse me, are you saying that your primary motivation for collecting "lounge"
music is that you are recycling junk culture?  I would think the primary
motive is you like the music and THEN maybe you think you've done a good deed
by reclaiming/recylcing the old vinyl.

I welcome response from others on this question.

- Michele


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse
Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:56:46 -0400


Earlier tonight I posted on this list something to the effect that I would
be spending the evening listening to a bunch of questionable records I
bought at the Goodwill on my way home today.  A bunch of nothing special
stuff that I bought because I wanted to hear something "new" and I didn't
want to actually look at my record shelf and have to decide what I actually
WANTED to hear.
I listed some of the records I bought but I didn't list ALL of them.
I was ashamed of one of them.
I've seen it a thousand times before in the Goodwill store.  I've passed it
up a thousand times before.
But tonight I guess I was desperate enough to look at it and think to
myself "Maybe Music Box Dancer ISN'T typical of the rest of the record".

That's right.  I bought "The Poet and I" by none other than my homeboy
FRANK MILLS.

And I just listened to it and... I didn't mind it.  Even had a couple of
cuts I might put on a tape eventually.   I'm pretty sure I could put the
song "You don't love no more" on a tape for some of you - like someone in
Ottawa who shall remain nameless - and it would just slide right down with
the rest of the pap.

Yes I bought a Frank Mills record.  And not just any Frank Mills record.
The record with "Music Box Dancer" on it.  And I listened to the record and
I didn't run and take it off when that horrid song came on.

That's it.  It's over.

Phone your loved ones, pack up your records, the world is ending.

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From: "paul m." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:08:27 -0800


>Where do you guys put all your records anyway?  I've only got one old Licorice
>Pizza crate and its full of the old punk albums.
======

don't i wish i could buy more of those!  i have the majority of mine in the
Licorice
Pizza crates, but am now about 15 short of what's needed.    scored the
cool bin
card 'genre headers' from the LP bins at L'Pizza too (ala "Disco Hits",
Rock, etc).

sometimes i think if Licorice Pizza didnt fold, i'd still be working there.
what a
astoundingly cool record store chain.

anyone know where to find old orange crates cheaply these days?   ferrante &
teicher would love to be 'off the floor' out the my kats reach!





paul moshay/mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 06 Aug 1998 04:18:41 -0600



>Where do you guys put all your records anyway?  I've only got one old Licorice
>Pizza crate and its full of the old punk albums.

Shelves, shelves and more shelves. I'm running out of room for shelves. I've
had to put my bed on stilts so I can buy...more shelves...

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:15:31 +0000


> I do however own one pretty unique piece of tiki paraphenalia and someday I
> plan to send it to someone on this list if in return he will agree not to
> post anything about Thor Heyerdahl for a whole month.
>
Here's my adress:

Moritz Reichelt
Thierschstrasse 43
D 80538 Munchen
Germany

MO*



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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse
Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:16:27 +0000


> Yes I bought a Frank Mills record.  And not just any Frank Mills record.
> The record with "Music Box Dancer" on it.  And I listened to the record and
> I didn't run and take it off when that horrid song came on.
>
> That's it.  It's over.
>
> Phone your loved ones, pack up your records, the world is ending.
>
> Nat
>

First send me the tiki!
BTW Let's open a new subject! "The most embarrassing song I once loved"
I start with "Joyride" by Roxette. See! And I still live.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Ducks Reply
Date: 06 Aug 1998 04:54:13 PDT



This is Ariel Dorfman, and good tongue-in-cheek fun. I think Picador
publishes his stuff.

>Along these lines of discussion, I _heartily_ recommend finding a copy
>of "How To Read Donald Duck" - it's a 1971 Chilean Marxist
>deconstruction of DD comix. Pretty entertaining, and interesting. Much
>of it goes way too far, but there are some poignant points made. Finds
>capitalist symbolism in the plots, character relationships, and the
fact
>that none of the ducks wear pants. (This was assigned reading for an
MFA
>seminar of mine...)

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Subject: (exotica) Re: D.E.N.: eXotica Releases Overview Update (18 Jul 98)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:57:54 +0000


Johan listed this new release:
> * Various Artists: "Formation 60"
>       CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998
Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more
about this?
I appreciate your help.

J. also listed this "interesting find":
> * Booker T. & The MGs: "Play The Hip Hits "
>       CD, Ace, USA?, 199?
It's on Stax, actually: CDSXD 065 - it came out 2-3 years ago.
Does anybody knows if the scheduled cd boxed set of Booker T. & the
M.G.'s is already out, and how many cd's are in it?
I was happy to read in the list from Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki that Booker
T. did an excellent show in Hawaii some time go.
(Hey Don, had your cd, and I just love it!)
What the world needs now is more groovy Hammond B-3 organ sound.
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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 06 Aug 1998 05:23:00 PDT


Well, I never hesitate to procrastinate, so:

>
>> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

No.
>> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

Martin Denny: Primativa
>> 3. This list could help you more by...

Forever continuing to describe at length and lovingly curious finds or
objects of desire that otherwise I might never know exist... and to err
into curious conversation, not always record related.

>> 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Tiki mugs, Hawaiian shirts, beer cans (just kidding. remember the
70's?).

>> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

Iggy and the Stooges, The Seeds, 50's rockabilly, US & Australian
instrumental "surf" music, Michael Nyman, on and on.
>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

My real name. Horse.

>> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound
quality
>> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of
CDs?

....
>> Tell us more!
>
>> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe
it or
>> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

No, alas, fezless.
>> 9. Shaken or stirred?

Yes, please.

>> 10. I clean my LPs with ...

a quica!
>> 11. My home page URL is:

http://www.toolazytobother.com
>> 12. I have a Licence To ...
swiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

Current favorite 3 lps in Exotica Collection:

The Guglielmi thing, Dick Hyman: Moog, Ken Nordine: Word Jazz

Latest cd purchases that you are most pleased with:

Man In Space With Sounds(!)
The Moog Cookbook

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Question List
Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:02:49 -0400


> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

I beat drums, but not much any more.

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
None of the above.  I got my first kick off listening to John Zorn's Naked
City run through Barry, Morricone, Mancini etc.  Then I thought, that's way
cool, and started picking up stuff like that on Vinyl.  Soon, I was
incorporating these and any other oddities I could find into my radio show
(WRUW Cleveland, a music-lover's paradise with over 80,000 title).  That
was as far as I got.  Then I aaccidently stumbled over this list in the
list of lists on Xmission.com (where the Zorn list also lies) and bam, I
was hooked.

> 3. This list could help you more by...
I don't think it could help me more.  It's a fantastic list.

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
Nuthin.  Well... no, nuthin.
I got four Kiss action figures on my desk here at work.
I like toys.
That's about it.

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
I still partake in good rock, classic rock, funk, 80s (from my childhood),
heavy rock verging on noise, like Melvins, Helmet, Zeni Geva, etc.  Yeah,
I'll go from Esquivel to the Melvins to Lenny Dee to John Zorn.  I'm a
moody guy.

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
Your zipper's down.


> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> Tell us more!
eh, CDs.  Mostly because my turntable is currently banished with the rest
of my stereo and computer up in my office, so I need CDs to take to work.
That's for convenience.  As far as delivery, I like the nostalgia feel of
LPs and definitely the big 12" cover.  But I also like holding little CDs
in my hands, and I think my racks of discs look cooler on the wall than my
racks of LPs, cuz you can see all the spines.
Also, these days, I'm very hip on MP3.


> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
No.  I'm only in it for the music.

> 9. Shaken or stirred?
Milk.  Shakes, or Nestle Quik, stirred.

> 10. I clean my LPs with ...
Nothin' yet, although I really want to before I cut 'em to CD (convenience,
I said, remember?).  I was planning to use distilled water and some sort of
alcohol, but I couldn't remember the proper combination.
I got plenty of diapers though, with my baby still padded.

> 11. My home page URL is:
out there and has nothing to do with anything Exotic.

> 12. I have a Licence To ...
Smack people who say they like "lots of music" but have no idea what
they're talking about.  It reminds me of the Blues Brothers, "We got BOTH
kinds of music here! Country AND Western!"

> 13. The first album I ever bought was:
Well, probably the first album I ever got my parents to buy for me was a
Bill Cosby album, but the first I ever bought myself was, I think, the
first Men at Work album, and the Styx album with Mr. Roboto.


And though my children find my music "weird" at least they don't like
country and they do like to boogie to James Brown.  Even the baby.  That's
not bad, hey?


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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cleaning, again
Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:04:13 -0400


Sorry to rehash this, but I lost the post that had the answer.
I'm really leaning towards the alcohol and distilled water, but I can only
remember that it's 2 parts water to 1 part alcohol.  Is this correct?

Any particular type of alcohol?
And what's the best type of rag to use?
A sponge?  A rag?  Steel wool?  (Some need it!)

Someone re-elucidate me please!

Thanks,
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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Raymond Lefevre
Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:45:19 Pacific Daylight Time


The most embarrasing song I once loved? Too many to list. But My Woman My Woman My Wife by Dean
Martin would sure be on this list.Andy Williams' version of You Are My Sunshine would be right behind it.

By the way......I was at a garage sale this past weekend and bought a big stack of about 50 or so 45's for 3
bucks. One of them is called "Ame Caline (Soul Coaxing)" and on the other side is "Pense A L'ete"....by
someone called Raymond Lefevre. I really like the first song, but 've never heard of it or the artist. Does
anybody here know anything about it? I know that some of you have those books that list the records and how
they did on the Billboard popularity charts. Any info?

Darren!


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FAQ temporarily on hold
Date: 06 Aug 1998 10:11:45 -0400


Hey all--

Thanks for all the helpful feedback and nice comments about the FAQ--but
just I wanted to say that if you've emailed lately I might be a little
erratic about answering: This morning we woke up before dawn to discover 5"
of rain had fallen, and water levels in the basement were quickly rising
past ankle level.

Thanks to quick action that valuable old Osborne One was saved--but it's
going to be a rough couple of days here. . .

Soggily,

 --Ross

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 06 Aug 1998 15:15:44 +0100



> From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
> At 02:01 PM 8/5/98 EDT, Robert wrote:

Oh, go on, I've never done this.

> > 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

Yes, I have played the electric bass for the past 10 years. And a
smidgeon of guitar. And I picked up some castanets and maracas from a
charity shop, but just use them as decorations. Oh, and this tiny
little celesta thing, I think that's what it's called, keyboard -->
hammer --> resonating metal bar, that looks home made and is about as
big as a reasonably large handbag, although the highest note was
missing and it was maladjusted so it was really what you might call a
honky-tonk celeste, but an unfortunate accident caused three of the
keys to shatter so what I really need to do is find a shop that sells
plastic keys and figure out how to replace them or do some
jury-rigging but I haven't had time so far. I used to play around with
that as well. But this is all fairly theoretical, because usually when
other musicians hear what I'm playing they run away.

> > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

"Swinging Safari" by Bert Kaempfert. S'true.

> > 3. This list could help you more by...

...it's ever-increasing diversity. That's good. Since subscribing, I
know plenty about artists such as Esquivel and Denny, but there are
other, obscurer areas waiting to be illuminated.

How many albums did Andre Brasseur make, and does anything else rival
"Mad Train" from "Tasty"? Which Windmill records were orchestrated by
Syd Dale, and are they as groovy as "The Chaplin Collection"? Is
T. W. Ardy always up to the level of "Hammond Gold" and why does he
look so scary? Did "Diabolic Man" record anything other than "Diabolic
Man"? Which Franck Pourcel tracks feature sitar? Did BBC Records put
out some great albums, or what? Was Jack Emblow insane? HAVE YOU HEARD
KLAUS WUNDERLICH'S VERSION OF CARAVAN??? Why do recent compilation
albums have groovily-designed covers but never any liner notes telling
you about the artists and music?

Essential questions like that need answers.

And anecdotes. I want to hear that Geoff Love was an alcoholic
kleptomaniac with three nipples, and that if you play the first track
of "Exotica" by Manuel and the Music of the Mountains backwards you
hear his stertorus voice declaring his secret lust for Cilla
Black. That kind of thing.

> > 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Books: cheesy science fiction; on/by comedians; of strange,
unclassifiable nature.

> > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

Contemporary classical music, a branch, or maybe whole other tree, of
"incredibly strange". Worlds of neglected musical idiosyncracy (and
wild album covers) to explore here. Also "classical perversion"
records: "pops" tunes subjected to jazzing, bossanovaing, mamboing,
countrifying, mooging... (guess this belongs under "exotica" anyway.)

Comedy records and really really really badd OTT heavy metal, which
amounts to the same thing.

Pre-War British dance band music with vocalists with toffee-nosed
Bertie Wooster accents singing about drinking tea, nudist colonies,
other kinds of colonies, jolly fun, picnics, the talkies, keep fit,
etc. etc. George Formby. (And George Formby's dad, who also made
records and sounds exactly the same). And also music by, about, or
traditionally associated with cockneys (excepting Dick van Dyke). This
is the most depraved, hideous musical sub-sub-sub-genre that
exists. It stinks, it rules! Key works: "The Ugly Duckling" by Mike
Reid and "London Is My Cup Of Tea" by Mr. Acker Bilk.

Astor Piazolla, Terje Rypdal, Tom Waits, Frank Zappa, John Zorn.

> > 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

I just picked up Terry-Thomas's one and only album. It's
silly. Terry-Thomas is a demi-god. The book he wrote is silly too.

> > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> > consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> > Tell us more!

CDs look strangely like an artifact that escaped from an old SF idea
that got "the way the future will be" all wrong. LPs are comfortingly
large, and you can see them spinning round.

> > 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> > other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

I have never seen a fez in real life. If you wore a fez in the UK
people would make comments about Tommy Cooper, who was a clowning
magician/comedian, whose tricks always went wrong. This is the only
route via which the fez has really surfaced into the British
consciousness. And he would say "a hah hah hah hah -- like that, not
like that". It loses something in the description. Maybe teenagers
nowadays wouldn't know who Tommy Cooper was though. I don't know.

I like my enormously wide purple tie with the light purple and white
"O" shapes on it.

> > 9. Shaken or stirred?

Brown ale.

> > 10. I clean my LPs with ...

Loving care.

> > 11. My home page URL is:

Dead for two years.

> > 12. I have a Licence To ...

rabbit on.

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From: Robert Sloane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Ducks Reply
Date: 06 Aug 1998 00:05:56 -0500


At 02:48 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Thom Heileson wrote:

>Along these lines of discussion, I _heartily_ recommend finding a copy
>of "How To Read Donald Duck" - it's a 1971 Chilean Marxist
>deconstruction of DD comix. Pretty entertaining, and interesting. Much
>of it goes way too far, but there are some poignant points made. Finds
>capitalist symbolism in the plots, character relationships, and the fact
>that none of the ducks wear pants. (This was assigned reading for an MFA
>seminar of mine...)

The book is by Ariel Dorfman (the playwright) and Armand Mattelart, and its
most recent edition can be found on the press International General.  I,
too, read the book for a class (last fall), and I second your comments.

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Saving Jessica
Date: 06 Aug 1998 07:57:36 -0700 (PDT)


If  Jessica is on a road trip, I can't wait until she gets back and
tell us what she found in the thrift stores around the country.

---Lou Smith  wrote:
Didn't she have an .edu e-mail account? Perhaps she's on a roadtrip
during summer break.

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Gainsbourg Jazz
Date: 07 Jul 1998 09:15:22 -0400


>Billboard also reports that they will be releasing an album of jazz
>reworkings of Burt's material.

This made me wonder, has anyone heard or does anyone own the album of
jazz interpretations of Serge Gainsbourg's songs which is mentioned in
the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd?  I don't remember who the artist was, but
it was a reasonably recent (1994 or something) release from France.
Anyone?

regards

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: D.E.N.: eXotica Releases Overview Update (18 Jul 98)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:21:32 -0600


At 13:57 06/08/98 +0000, you wrote:
>
>Johan listed this new release:
>> * Various Artists: "Formation 60"
>>       CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998
>Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more
>about this?
>I appreciate your help.

I'm not German, but I do their UK publicity. What do you wanna know? It is a
compilation of East German jazz from the former East German state label
Amiga. I think it is very straight jazz, but it is getting a very good
reaction over here. Not very loungey. I wouldn't play it out...

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From: [e-mail] (Subliminal Sounds)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL
Date: 06 Aug 1998 17:23:40 +0200 (MET DST)


The Spanish vinyl pressing of "Attilio Mineo presents Man In Space with
Sounds" by Wah-Wah is legit. It was licensed to them by me, Jack and
Mr. Mineo. I never saw it mentioned as a possible bootleg in any earlier
posting otherwise I would have protested earlier.

Stefan

>At 01:52 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Jaaaack wrote:
>>Hello all,
>>I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue  of the
>>"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666
>Lou Smith wrote:
>OK, now I'm confused! Didn't we conclude that these Limited Edition Spanish
>import LPs (like Moon Gas) are pirate copies. Does this mean Jack is selling
>illegal copies of his own legit re-issue?!? What gives?



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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack, 7-19-98
Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:23:03 -0700


 KFJC play list 7/19/98 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                TRACK                     ALBUM
__________________________________________________________________
 The Planets           Chunky

 Art Pepper Qrt        Cool Bunny                Jan, 1957
 W/ Russ Freeman-Pno;
 Ben Tucker-Bass
 Chuck Flores-Drums

 Big Jim Sullivan      Sunshine Superman         Sitar Beat!
 Air                   Talisman                  Moon Safari

 101 Strings Orch. W/
 Bebe Bardon           Je T'aime                 Love at 1ST Sight

 The Ventures          Psyched-Out!

 Mancini! with         The Party (Instro)
 Bill Plummer-Sitar
 Plas Johnson-Tenor Sax
 Jack Sheldon

 Gershon Kingsley      Trumansburg Whistle       Music to Moog By

 Leith Stevens Orch;   The Movie Star            Arr X Bill Holman
 Chet Baker            Mike Pacheco-Bongos
 Bud Shank-Alto Sax    Richie Kamuca-Tenor
 Pepper Adams-Bari

 Woody Phillips        Dance Of...Sugar Plum
                       Fairy

 Hot Club of America   Caravan                   Coral
 Fred Lowery           Tennessee Waltz           Mid 50'S Whistling

 Cinzano Commercial    Cinzano Makes Ashtrays    1966
                       ???

 Jim Gordon            Rites of Passage
 Mort Garson           Witch Trial               Black Mass Lucifer

 Bill Jennings-Gtr     Cool Grits
 Jack Mcduff-Organ
 Willis Jackson-Tenor
 Tommy Potter-Bass

 Gabor Szabo With;     White Rabbit              Bill Plummer-Sitar
 California Dreamers

 Fifty Foot Hose       Fantasy                   Cauldron
                       (1ST Half of Tune)        Limelight, 1967

 Lewis Sisters         S'wonderful               Liberty
 The Forbidden 5       Enchanted Forest          60'S Psych Quiet Village

 Ken Nordine           What Time Izzit           Dot, 1957, Mono
                       ??????????

 Mark Renwick          Melancholy Serenade       Mussette Records
 Clyde Borley          S.O.S. Force              Atco, 1966, France

 Nino Rota:            Ballando Con Raquel       Soundtrack:
                       Alberto Investiga         Spara Forte...
                       Raquel
                       Mistero 2
                       Alberto and Raquel

 Sidney Poitier W/     Discovery of the Good
                       Life
 Fred Katz Orch.

 Jerry Goldsmith       Westward Ho-O-O!          In Like Flint

 Robert Prince         Dance at the Gym:
                       Mambo

                       Maria Cha Cha
                       Jump

 Kenyon Hopkins        The Chase                 Nightmare!

 David Jannsen &       Public Service
                       Announcement
 Jack Webb             For Dope Smuggling

 Bob Leaper Orch       High Wire
 Dean Elliot Orch.     College Confidential
 Kenyon Hopkins        Going                     Rooms Ost
 Enoch Light           What the World Needs Now  Spaced Out!
 Ed Wood               Main Title                Ed Wood

 Cale, John            Kiss Movement 01          Eat/Kiss: Music for the
                                                 Films

 Taxi Driver           Thank God for the Rain    Taxi Driver
 Taxi Driver           Cleaning the Cab          Taxi Driver
 Taxi Driver           I Still Can't Sleep       Taxi Driver

 La Morte Accarezz     La Morte Accarezza a      La Morte Accarezza
                       ......

John Zorn's Naked City   The Sicilian Clan         Morricone Title
 Electric Piano-       I Had Tooooooooo Much
 Playground            To Dream Last Night

 Kenneth Patchen W/    As I Open the Window      Folkways, 1959
 Alan Neil Qrt

 Johnny Kidd/Pirates   Restless                  1960
 Nutty Squirrels       Yardbird Suite            Cannonball Adderly
 Roy Clark             Roy's Guitar Boogie
 Liquid Sky Ost        Nightclub 2

 Pete Rugolo           Diamond on the Move

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik?
Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:34:15 -0700 (PDT)


Very sad news indeed.  A moment of silence please for the end of an era.

At least its frozen in time.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck


---"Br. Cleve"  wrote:
>2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"!

 >Are these items connected?

 I'm sure Vik is aware of these legal issues, as by day he is a
webmaster for a record company. But in a related note, he told me last
week that he has shut down Vik's Lounge, but will be keeping it
"frozen in time", like the Space Age Bachelor Pad site.

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From: "Fred Loewen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tommy Garrett/50 Guitars
Date: 06 Aug 1998 10:32:00 -0500


I'd like to know from the group:

Does anyone know the name of the Tommy Garrett/50 Guitars album with the
following 2 songs on it: "This Guy's In Love With You" and "Can't Take My
Eyes Off Of You".  While these 2 songs do appear on his "Best of the 50
Guitars, Volume 2" recording, that is not the album that I'm thinking of.
There must be another Tommy Garrett/50 Guitars album with these 2 songs on
it.  Anyone know what the name of that album is?

Please respond to me directly at:
mailto:[e-mail]

Thanks,
Fred Loewen
Winnipeg, CANADA


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) erotica Italia
Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:48:22 -0700 (PDT)


I'm beginning to feel like an advertisement for Other Music in NYC.
I'm not connected other than they should have a 2d mortgage on my
house to pay for these vast numbers of exotica releases I've purchased
from them.

I got erotica Italia from Tom at Other Music.  You can call Tom at
[phone] & with a credit card it will be shiped that day or you
can can email him at [e-mail]  or go straight to the
website

http://www.interactive.net/~tomc

---Bump  wrote:
>
> Not quite as impressive but another must own treat is "erotica ITALIA"
> on BMG Eurodisc (Arista 3484) 1997  Its title is quite appropriate
for describing the sound of the music. It also says "The 'Kama Sutra
of Italian erotic movie music from the 1960's and 70's, compiled and
> presented by Patrick Whitaker and Martin Green, Th Sound Curators"
( Who we all know from the Sound Gallery and Sound Spectrum. ) Excuse
me but I can't remember if this particular cd was already mentioned on
the list.

> yeah, ratso mentioned this and i have been looking for it...
> where did you find it?
>
> love this stuff...



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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cleaning, again
Date: 06 Aug 1998 12:11:35 -0500


At 09:04 AM 8/6/98 -0400, Peter Risser wrote:
>
>Sorry to rehash this, but I lost the post that had the answer.
>I'm really leaning towards the alcohol and distilled water, but I can only
>remember that it's 2 parts water to 1 part alcohol.  Is this correct?
>
>Any particular type of alcohol?
>And what's the best type of rag to use?
>A sponge?  A rag?  Steel wool?  (Some need it!)
>
>Someone re-elucidate me please!

The current stat of opinion amongst serious vinyl preservationists is to
stay away from alcohol in all its forms - it supposedly leaches out the
vinyl stabilizers.
You might want to visit this URL for the Care and Handling of Recorded=
 Material:
<http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byauth/st-laurent/care.html>

Here's an excerpt:
Cleaning:
Since dust is usually held in place by electrostatic attraction, dry wiping
on its own does not work effectively. The added friction created by the
duster will cause the dust to jump back to the charged surface.=20

Distilled water is used for cleaning records and CDs for many reasons. Its
precise chemical makeup is known, it will not leave any residue behind, is
safe to use, and is inexpensive. Water disperses static charges and
counteracts the increase in conductivity from the pick-up of salt deposits
from finger prints. However, water alone cannot dissolve grease, thus
surfactants are used as additives to enable water to be a grease solvent.
Surfactants break grease surface bonds and allow water to penetrate grease
solids, causing swelling and then random dispersion.=20

General:
=95The Canadian Conservation Institute (CCI) recommends the use of nonionic,
ethelyne oxide condensates surfactants to clean sound recordings. The CCI
does not foresee long-term problems associated with the use of nonionic
surfactants such as Tergitol. Tergitol 15-S-3 is an oil soluble surfactant
and 15-S-9 is a water soluble surfactant. Combined they remove a wide range
of dirt and greases and can safely be used on sound recordings. Use 0.25
part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of
distilled water. (These products are available in small quantities from
TALAS (Division of Technical Library Service Inc) 213 West 35th Street, New
York, N.Y. [phone].) The recording must then be rinsed thoroughly
with distilled water to eliminate any trace of detergent residue. =95Keep an
airgun handy to blow off light surface dust.=20

Grooved discs:
=95Grooved discs are best cleaned using a record cleaning machine such as=
 the
Keith Monks, VPI, Nitty Gritty using 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25
parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water. These machines
allow for an even dispersion of fluid and can then vacuum the liquid leaving
a clean, dry surface. The discs must then be rinsed thoroughly with
distilled water and vacuumed dry to eliminate any trace of detergent
residue. Records should be cleaned before each playback. =95Clean Vulcanite
discs showing signs of acid build up using 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and
0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water and rinse
thoroughly. =95Clean acetate discs showing signs of palmitic acid deposits
(white greasy substance on acetate disc surface) as if cleaning LPs, except
add 1 part ammonia per 100 to the Tergitol cleaning solution. Do not use
ammonia on shellac based discs.=20

For those who want an excellent cleaning system without requiring a wet/vac
machine, there's the Disc Doctor system <http://www.discdoc.com/lp.html>.

There's also an audio zine called Primyl Vinyl that, in one back issue,
explains how to build a wet/vac machine for $50 and also gives 10 recipies
for home-brewed LP cleaning fluids. If you want, I can try to track down
that info.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:32:07 -0700 (PDT)


---"paul m."  wrote:
>
>
> >Where do you guys put all your records anyway?  >>>I've only got
one old Licorice Pizza crate and its >>>full of the old punk albums.


Sometimes I think my albums take up less space then the stupid jewel
boxes for cds.   I had some good ole boy carpenters build me a solid
10 foot tall
wooden shelveing unit that is shaped like a U to fit underneath and
aroud a old New Orleans window.  Its 9 feet wide at the bottom of the
U.   It still wasn't enough room to hold the record albums.

A record collecting freind of  mine had his house start to lean to one
side.  It was the same side his huge record collection was on.  He
moved out of that apartment.   I helped him move. It was miserable
moving all those boxes of albums.
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Subject: (exotica) Another sign of the Apocalypse
Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:39:38 -0700 (PDT)


Another sign of the Apocalypse.

Vic's Lounge is frozen in time.


---Nat Kone  wrote:
>
> Earlier tonight I posted on this list something to the effect that I
would
> be spending the evening listening to a bunch of  Yes I bought a
Frank Mills record.  And not just any Frank Mills record. The record
with "Music Box Dancer" on it.  And I listened to the record and
> I didn't run and take it off when that horrid song came on.
>
> That's it.  It's over.
>
> Phone your loved ones, pack up your records, the world is ending.
> Nat

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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cleaning, again & again
Date: 06 Aug 1998 12:51:01 -0400


Do I hear grumbling about this thread?  Well, I'll just ignore it & forge
ahead ... (I've really tried to get this answered in other places but get
intimidated and confused by all of the audiophilia ... so, I'll ask here
among friends who *do* understand just why I would *want* to try to revive
that Three Suns LP) ...

Okay, I think I want to bite the bullet & buy one of these cleaning
machines.  No matter what I do myself to clean my vinyl, it always seems to
turn out to be the "wrong" thing to do & I usually get pretty mediocre
results ... I'm a bit more forgiving with surface noise than most, but
can't tolerate that cartridge-floating-on-a-cotton-ball sound.  (My current
method is a spray mister with water & a bit of ammonia and a Discwasher
brush.  If I play more than a few LPs in a sitting, the Discwasher tends to
get a bit soppy.)

Anyway, here's my question(s):

* Is there one in particular vacuum machine that's better than others?
Particularly for the condition of the LPs we sniff out from thrifts?  Nitty
Gritty seems to be the one most often mentioned.  Either that, or it's got
the easiest to remember name.

* Do these machines actually do a *better* job in cleaning vinyl; or, are
they just much more efficient & convenient?  If it's the latter, that's
cool by me, I just don't wanna be expecting miracles if unwarranted.

* Is there a reliable place on the web I can order one of these things?
I've come to really dislike most of the audio equipment dealers in
Philadelphia & would rather git it m'self.

Oh: while I'm at it <and since I've already pissed off the "music only"
camp :) >

Okay, here's a related question I've been *dying* to have answered for a
long time ... I've asked in audio equipment stores & get really blank looks
'cause they invariably ask what "kind of stuff" I play.  You know how that
goes ...

Sometimes there will be an old record that sounds GREAT.  Except for one
particular frequency, which crackles and fuzzes & makes the whole thing
nearly unlistenable.  Sometimes it will be the "featured" voice or
instrument, sometimes not.  Okay, let me explain it with an example:  a
copy of Jane Morgan's "Last Time I Saw Paris" has crystal clarity on all of
the backing.  Sounds like it was pressed yesterday.  But her voice, when
she hits a certain range ... crackle crackle crackle ....

What's up with that?  Does this just mean it's a really dirty record?
Damaged beyond repair?  Is it a static problem?  Sometimes playing this
kind of record wet helps.  I'd just toss them into the "oh well" pile, but
it's just weird how it effects just certain frequencies ....

Okay, now back to the music.

Hey -- tying up some loose threads.  To the person looking for a decent
Brubeck disc (I fully subscribe to Nat's summing up on Brubeck): I really
like "Dave Digs Disney."  The accessibility of the Disney tunes is a nice
antidote to the (faux) capital-J Jazz posturing of the combo.

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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Formation 60
Date: 06 Aug 1998 18:49:27 +0000


> >Johan listed this new release:
> >> * Various Artists: "Formation 60"
> >>       CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998
> >Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more
> >about this?
> >I appreciate your help.
>
> I'm not German, but I do their UK publicity. What do you wanna know? It is a
> compilation of East German jazz from the former East German state label
> Amiga. I think it is very straight jazz, but it is getting a very good
> reaction over here. Not very loungey. I wouldn't play it out...
>
> Jill "Mingo-go"

Basically, I'd like to know if it's music recorded in 50's or 60's or
it's contemporary. I guess the second. Is that right? And who's
playing in it?
Thank You, Jill
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fernsehprogramm, Deutschland
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:06:16 +0000


Ho, ho! Was seh ich da? Do., 6. August, SAT 1, 0 Uhr 15 und 3 Uhr 35,
also eigentlich schon Freitag: Monty Python's Flying Circus, Titel der
heutigen Folge. "Der Kon Tiki". Die neusynchronisierte Monty
Python-Reihe ist eigentlich garnicht so schlecht geworden, wenn auch
kein Vergleich mit dem Original...

MO*TV



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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) erotica Italia
Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:34:34 Pacific Daylight Time


You wrote:

>>I'm beginning to feel like an advertisement for Other Music in NYC.
>>I'm not connected other than they should have a 2d mortgage on my
>>house to pay for these vast numbers of exotica releases I've purchased
>>from them.
>
Could you send the address of this place? I have a friend in NYC that has never heard of it. Or maybe a rough
approximation of where it is.


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:41:20 +0000


I just started to paint the Denny's "Exotica" Cover (LRP 3034 Mono
version, of course) in oil and what do I see on a closer look? Sandy
Warner is wearing painted eyelashes! Painted on the skin above her eyes.
I guess the girls in the list had seen this right away. I never saw a
girl do that in real life. Exotic! It also looks as if this
vaginal-symbolic piece of silver on her forehead is fixed to her hair
with an ordinary safety pin.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:46:46 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-05 14:35:02 EDT, rgrandia writes:

<<Say, RC....

 Did you have a cousin by the name of Preston? >>

in ref to:

<< Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern
Exotica
Confederacy delegate: approved!

IMPORTANT NOTE:  Delegate requires the record to show that disregard of input
or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will result in
the secession of said Confederacy from the list.  And yes, Dixie is considered
exotica music by many.

Robert "E." Brooks


Well . . . .

Preston Smith Brooks was from Edgefield county South Carolina and brought the
Brooks name to fame (infamy)  just prior to the Civil War.  He served in the
House of Representatives and took exception to comments made by Charles
Sumner, a representative from Mass.  Sumner made disparaging remarks about the
South, South Carolina and, specifically, Brooks father-in-law.  This all
happened in 1856 in the aftermath of the "Kansas Compromise".

Brooks deemed Sumner to be a scoundrel (not a gentleman) and thus, by the code
of chivalry, Brooks felt he was not compelled to challenge him to a duel
(which was the way a family's honor was restored).  He chose instead to flail
Sumner (on the floor of the Senate no less) with a cane.  This incident is
usually sited in the history books because it represented how tense things
were getting between the Northern and Southern States.

Incidentally, there were not sufficient votes to expel Brooks from Congress.
He was fined $ 5.00 for disorderly conduct.  He became a "hero" to southerners
and southern sympathizers would send him canes with little tags attached that
had name of other northerners that Brooks should flail.

Robert

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik?
Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:06:00 -0400


> I'm sure Vik is aware of these legal issues, as by day he is a webmaster
> for a record company. But in a related note, he told me last week that he
> has shut down Vik's Lounge, but will be keeping it "frozen in time", like
> the Space Age Bachelor Pad site.
>
> br cleve

That's a shame. Vik's Lounge has been (and will still be) such a valuable
resource. I found this very list through Vik's links. Many thanks, Vik!

Hmmm, this ties into another recent thread. Vik's Lounge has been put into
cryogenic suspension. Just like "Uncle Walt."

What kind of ice would you like in that cocktail?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Saving Jessica
Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:02:46 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-06 11:01:29 EDT, chuck writes:

<< If  Jessica is on a road trip, I can't wait until she gets back and
 tell us what she found in the thrift stores around the country.
  >>

the server ain't got enough space for that mega list.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse
Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:11:34 -0400


> Yes I bought a Frank Mills record.  And not just any Frank Mills record.
> The record with "Music Box Dancer" on it.  And I listened to the record and
> I didn't run and take it off when that horrid song came on.
>
> That's it.  It's over.
>
> Phone your loved ones, pack up your records, the world is ending.
>
> Nat

This post sounds SO much like a Lester Bangs piece...

Hey, waitaminnit!

You ARE Lester Bangs, aren't you?

And you faked your death, just like Elvis.

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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:12:35 -0400


I had a cheezy low-scale Hammond organ that I bought at a used electronics
warehouse for $20.  It broke, so I ripped the guts out of it, and used the
heavy oak for shelving.

I finished building it and realized that it was too small.

So they get stacked on top until I get around to moving and re-building the
thing.

Or tossing it and using and old console stereo cabinet instead.

surfing the chaos,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Cleaning, again
Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:19:29 -0400


For anyone who wants to live dangerously and use alcohol (despite the
warnings), the traditional recipe is:

2 parts distilled water
1 part denatured alcohol

I've used scraps of old white t-shirts for rags.

I don't know about long-term effects on the vinyl, but it sure does cut through
crusty mold.

I'm sure this is all very, very wrong and I will burn in record abuser hell
when I die.

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Whither Vik?
Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:25:08 -0700 (PDT)


They are missing the point when they think www broadcasts hurt record
sales.  Its obivious that you buy more music because of what you are
exposed to.  I want to thank Vic for having such cool taste to put
that great music on his site.  Vic's lounge has turned me on to such a
variety of new music that I couldn't wait to go out and buy it.   I
doubt this law will help the record industry.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck
---"m.ace"  wrote:
> Two things that I noted in tonight's web crawl...
 1) The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net
broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA (an organization of
the major record companies) -- this is in addition to the existing
payments to ASCAP &> BMI (totally separate organizations, as explained
recently by Br. Cleve). And no, traditional radio has never had to pay
any such fee (and will still not have to).
> Story at: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,24940,00.html
>
> 2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"!
> http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/radiovik.html

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Cleaning, again & again
Date: 06 Aug 1998 18:26:34 EDT


In a message dated 8/6/98 2:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> sometimes it will be the "featured" voice or
>  instrument, sometimes not.  Okay, let me explain it with an example:  a
>  copy of Jane Morgan's "Last Time I Saw Paris" has crystal clarity on all of
>  the backing.  Sounds like it was pressed yesterday.  But her voice, when
>  she hits a certain range ... crackle crackle crackle ....

Am I wrong, or isn't that caused by needle damage, and pretty much
irreparable?  I hate it when an album looks great, and you get it home, and
it's got that cotton ball crackle.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) fat cats vs. the net (long, boring)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 20:14:04 -0400


>> The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net
>> broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA (an organization of
>
> They are missing the point when they think www broadcasts hurt record
> sales.  Its obivious that you buy more music because of what you are
> exposed to.  I want to thank Vic for having such cool taste to put
> that great music on his site.  Vic's lounge has turned me on to such a
> variety of new music that I couldn't wait to go out and buy it.   I
> doubt this law will help the record industry.

And given the global nature of the net, isn't it funny how this fee is supposed
to go to the Recording Industry Association of *America*?

The funnier thing is, The U.S. Copyright Office conducted a 2 year study which
concluded that new laws were not necessary, because the copyright act was
written to be "technology neutral" as much as possible. News item here:
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,24756,00.html
The pressure for new laws is all coming from special interest groups. And the
ease with which some of this is going through is scary.

I think it's not so much about fear of record sales being hurt as it is desire
to control the medium. The possibility of the record companies being cut out of
the artist to listener chain is a real threat, and I'm sure they will do
everything they can, fair or foul, to prevent it.

From the artists' viewpoint, having the manufacturing/distribution bottleneck
eliminated would be a real dream (though the matter of marketing might be more
complicated). I can't remember the exact details, but I recall a Frank Zappa
interview where he said even he was surprised how much more money he made when
he went totally indie with Barking Pumpkin and no longer had all of those
percentages being extracted. Eliminate the mass production and distribution
costs, and it should be even better. Todd Rundgren was one of the early
big-name folks to embrace these possibilities, and he's hinted that the
established biz has been treating him rather cooly ever since.

The big boys are not going to go quietly into the night. If they are unable to
prevent such things from happening, they may shift the battle to control of the
new process. It may well wind up that artists who have zero connection with a
record company will have to pay a percentage to the RIAA in order to legally
deliver their music through the net. P-yew!

But this is just my oversimplified view. Maybe some other folks here can add
much more focused and informed insights.

oh, I'm no fun anymore,

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From: "Michael Bennet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 06 Aug 1998 20:18:58 -0400


Jonny wrote:

This made me wonder, has anyone heard or does anyone own the album of
jazz interpretations of Serge Gainsbourg's songs which is mentioned in
the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd?  I don't remember who the artist was, but
it was a reasonably recent (1994 or something) release from France.
Anyone?

-------------------
What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway?

Michael


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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:16:43 -0700 (PDT)



>What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway?
>
It is my favorite of the three collections.  But you know Gainsbourg is
such a genius... Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there on the
list?

-----------------
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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:46:20 -0500


>Shelves, shelves and more shelves. I'm running out of room for shelves. I've
>had to put my bed on stilts so I can buy...more shelves...


Years ago I built my own bed frame to a very specific height...so that I
could fit record crates beneath it.

Frank (dreaming over vinyl)


My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 06 Aug 1998 23:11:14 EDT


OK, so I resisted long enough.  Here are my freakin stats.

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

No, I am not so inclined.  I often joke that I the only musical instrument I
can play is the radio.

 > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

Def. Denny's Quiet Village. Period.

 > 3. This list could help you more by...

Helping me plan my retirement strategy

 > 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Shees, get ready.  Tiki mugs galore, cocktail shakers and barwear, vintage
stereo equipment (oh no, those damn Magnavoxes again), Victrolas and 78's,
James Bond stuff (fallen off on this since puberty ended at age 35 a year
ago), a couple of old cars, player piano rolls (hey that's exotica!), old
furniture/furnishings (read retro), I'll stop now.

 > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

Ragtime music, especially Eubie Blake.  Mechanized music like player pianos
(mentioned above), orchestrons, calliopes.

 > 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

Thank God all my friends don't know all this.

 > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
 > consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
 > Tell us more!

All have their merits.  I am the most impressed with piano rolls.  It is
amazing that these rolls of paper, a process developed about 100 years ago,
with little holes in them, can play music.  Next up, 78's and the Victrolas
that played them.  When we were hit by Hurricane Hugo in 1989 and were without
electricity for 10 days I played the hell out of my Victrola.  Believe it or
not, the sound quality and volume is really not bad.

 > 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
 > other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

Yeah, an old Masonic one my uncle had.  I want a leopard skin (fake of course)
one but I am not sure where I would wear it.  Maybe on my riding lawn mower --
that should get the neighbors attention.

 > 9. Shaken or stirred?

With a cocktail shaker collection in excess of 50 need you ask.

 > 10. I clean my LPs with ...

a Brillo pad and some Shine-O-La

 > 11. My home page URL is:

www.wemustbefreakinnuts.com

 > 12. I have a License To ...

practice optometry . . . and I will make any bastard who flames me because of
this post wear a special pair of b.c. bifocal glasses (birth control glasses
-- so ugly, you won't be able to get a date -- then again, look what they did
for Esquivel)

 Regards,

 Robert Brooks
 Charleston, South Carolina  USA


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse
Date: 07 Aug 1998 01:09:39 -0400


At 02:11 PM 06/08/98 -0400, m.ace wrote:
>
>This post sounds SO much like a Lester Bangs piece...
>
>Hey, waitaminnit!
>
>You ARE Lester Bangs, aren't you?
>
>And you faked your death, just like Elvis.

Twenty odd years ago, I would have thought I'd died and gone to heaven if
someone compared anything I wrote to anything Lester Bangs wrote.  Now that
I'm older, it's still pretty flattering.

I've felt a lot closer to Lester lately since I read in his book that the
first record he bought with his own money was Mundell Lowe's TV ACTION
JAZZ... which was not the first record I ever bought but was probably the
first sorta exotica record I ever found.

But since you seem intent on finding out my real identity, okay...

I'm John Tesh.

Nat



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From: jasmine <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:26:15 -0800


hrmmm... why i'm not doing this, i'm not completely sure of...  i guess,
since i post so little, the least i could offer up a bit of where i'm
coming from.  be nice, now!

>> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
>
no, no, no... although, i've always harbored a secret desire to be a bit of
a lounge-singing diva.  I guess that wacky "talent" thing keeps getting in
they way.

>
> > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

ok, now seriously, no flames please.  the first album that clued me into a
whole sub-genre i was missing out on was Stereolab's "john cage bubblegum".
but on a more traditional note, i knew i had found something special when i
saw the cover of denny's "exotica."  i'd no clue what it would would like,
only that i knew i would love it... and i did!


> > 3. This list could help you more by...

giving me a raise... i mean, erm, nothing actually.  i find that i learn
heaps by just reading it everyday (although that's hard on the really busy
days!).

> > 4. Other exotica/things you collect

well, as i'm still not _totally_ sure what qualifies as exotica
collectables, i'll list the things i'm most passionate about (and spend the
most "disposable" income on):  late '50s and early '60s furniture, cocktail
dresses, handbags, dishes and flatware, tiki-related silliness, cigarette
holders, flasks (for women, usually), picnic baskets, european scarves, old
zippos, etc... do Daguerreotypes and stereoscopes count?


>
> > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

my biggest musical investment is in "indiepop" which is a really
overgeneralized term for all things indie... guitar-oriented, ambient,
electronic, acoustic and more...

> > 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

i once had this dream where i was dancing the foxtrot with bill clinton.  i
can't stand peanut butter.

> > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> > consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> > Tell us more!

well, i presume this topic has been rehashed to death, so i'll say this:  i
love LPs because i love good packaging. i'm not an audiophile. i don't see
how lps sound better than cds (in practice, although in theory, yes).  I
like cds because i can take them with me everywhere i go, and because my
Mac doesn't have a built-in lp drive (yet!)  I will pay more for an LP than
a CD because it seems like a better long-term investment for me.


> > 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> > other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
>

erm, no...

>
> > 9. Shaken or stirred?

i, like lots of you (i think) am really into collecting cocktail gear...
i've an innocent-looking picnic basket that unfolds to be a full, wet bar.
I'm a huge fan of martini glasses, as i think they're the epitome of
perfect shapes.  I'm also a big drinker... and when i go out, i tend to
order a jack and coke (with cherry).  In the posher places, that seems a
bit boring, so i head for a manhatten, shaken, straight up.

> > 10. I clean my LPs with ...

verve

> > 11. My home page URL is:

http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart


> > 12. I have a License To ...
>

pay off student loans for the rest of my life.

-- jasmine, who enjoyed that quite a bit





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From: Randi L Massingill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:37:48 -0700


>> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

nope, I think I didnt learn any instruments out of spite for my parents who
could play music and they were horrible.

>> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

I love celebrity records...bad celebrity records. I used to own Jayne
Mansfield Busts Up Las Vegas. My husband sold all of my records and now he
is my ex-husband.

>> 3. This list could help you more by...

doing my dishes and dusting my shelving.

>> 4. Other exotica/things you collect

I buy vintage clothing that I think I may look halfway decent in. I just
need to leave the house in some of these clothes.

>> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

no laughing please! The Monkees and Rick Springfield. I am mostly into Frank
Sinatra, Nancy Sinatra and Ann-Margret. Im not certain if they fit in the
exotica or the unrelated retro section.


>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
that I am going to see Bobby Sherman, Peter Noone and Davy Jones in concert
on Saturday. Also I once had a poodle named Barky.


>> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
>> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
>> Tell us more!

I prefer the convenience of CD in relation to where it is in my office but I
prefer LPs (my preference in initials) for their art.

>> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
>> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

I plead the fifth. Actually I have seen a red fez that I want and I need to
go back and see how much it is.

>> 9. Shaken or stirred?

I like my Ovaltine stirred.

>> 10. I clean my LPs with ...

the few LPs I have are nice and clean already.

>> 11. My home page URL is:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/7284/eyeofbeholder.html

>> 12. I have a Licence To ...

be adorable, smart and modest. <g>

Randi L. Massingill

Eye of the Beholder- movie memorabilia search service
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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 07 Aug 1998 00:39:45 -0700


OK, so many have done this, I guess I will too.

>> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
Yes, a percussionist.  I was a rock drummer for years, hard rock in the
seventies, new wave/punkish in the eighties, back to rock in the later
eighties.  Stopped playing after my daughter was born.  In a moment of
delusion, I sold my whole kit, and have regretted it ever since.

>> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
When I was 14 I bought "Bob Thompson - Mmmm Nice!" at a neighbors garage
sale, because my attention was drawn to the babe on the cover.  In 1990 I
was at a friends house and he put on that Martin Denny-Rhino comp. I bought
it the next day and have been hooked ever since.

>> 3. This list could help you more by...
Nothing, really.  I'm happy.

>> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
Nothing, really.  I'm happy.  But I'll bring anything home if it's unusual.

>> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
I too am a Monkees fan.  I have all their Rhino CD's, except Missing Links
Vol. Two.  60's/70's bubblegum, 60's/70's am rock/schmaltz pop, celebrity
records, classic jazz, classic blues, some C&W up to about 1972, classic
soul, soundtracks.  Probably more - does this mean "I like everything,
really"?  No, I can think of some things I don't like.

>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
We're expecting a baby boy in December.  Haven't decided on a name yet.
Suggestions?

>> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?
I prefer CD's, but I love LP's too.  I'll pick up a record at a thrift if I
already have it on CD, just so I can have the original pressing - but I'd
rarely play it.  Mainly I play records that haven't been released on cd yet
(if ever).

>> 8. Own a fez?
No, I don't do the fashion thing.  I do have lots of Hawaiian shirts and
colorful surfer baggy pants (you know, like Joey Buttafuoco), but only
because they're so darn comfortable, and after I turned 34 I lost control
of my waistline.

>> 9. Shaken or stirred?
Shaken

>> 10. I clean my LPs with ...
I've always used one of those Discwasher D4+ things, with the spray and the
wood handled "brush".  It doesn't work so well, though.  I've read all the
record cleaning posts with interest, but there's so many different opinions
I don't know which one to use.

>> 11. My home page URL is:
I don't have one yet, I've been too lazy.  Someday...

>> 12. I have a Licence To ...
Become neutered in December, following the blessed event.  Ouch.

Dave



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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn)
Date: 07 Aug 1998 01:16:06 -0700


>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
We're expecting a baby boy in December.  Haven't decided on a name yet.
Suggestions?


Juan Garcia Davidson

I was seriously pushing for Miles Davis Grandia when naming
my boy (now three. handsome, smart. thankyouverymuch)

Hmmm... Baxter Denny Davidson.....uhhhh... Serge Davidson....

I'll get back to ya.


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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 01:31:54 -0700


So who's got a collectors database going?

I have been sooo busy lately, but dammit, I have got to start getting the
vinyl organized
and entered into a database.

I really need to get some lists of albums compiled for several projects I
am working on.
I also have promised information to people about some of my records, and it
occurs to me that this would be the perfect time to get the database
going... I'd just start entering
the things I need to compile...I can add the rest later. This will save me
from having to rekey  a lot of stuff.

So let's make with the recommendations. Also, if anyone wishes to share
their database template, well you just go right ahead.  I am particularly
interested in a system that would let me search large fields of notes
(possibly
for sections of liners) sice I often need to search for things not easily
found in
straight title,artist,label, etc.. fields.

This should be interesting...

Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER.
They are just clumped in the basement (my rumpus room) in "groups."
Some on shelves. Some on chairs. Tons on the floor. MAN, am I going
to be busy.


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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats
Date: 07 Aug 1998 04:44:41 EDT


Piero Piccioni----the very name---I love to say it into a micorphone---think
of it---Piero Piccioni...say it five times fastttt...MMMMMMMMM...rambling
after the disco/Jimmy Botticelli


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Who'se calling who tedious?
Date: 07 Aug 1998 04:48:42 EDT


how can I get a gig a McGill?.......I wanna physically plan.......


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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Date: 07 Aug 1998 04:56:49 EDT


record storage--now THERE's a thread---anyone for sewing?


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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Whither Vik?
Date: 07 Aug 1998 05:01:58 EDT


will vik himself address his reasons for shutting down ?


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Subject: (exotica) Ed Lincoln
Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:18:52 +0100


OK,  seeing as how I got no response at all about this,  I assume no-one
else has come across it.  What a great record.  Sort of mambo / Bossa
Nova rhythm ( I don't know,  I've never had a dance lesson in my life)
with a lovely meaty Hammond,  trumpet and kazoo (oh, yes).  There are
vocals,  but they're not really featured,  more a chorus thats kept
fairly well down in the mix.  The sleeve just says 'Ed Lincoln' on the
front and spine,  so I would assume its the first eponymous LP from Ed,
who does seem to be a real person as he co-wrote several of the songs.
Its a nice cover with 3 couples (I counted) dancing.  The label looks a
bit blurred so I suppose it may be a bootleg,  but its on LP and CD so
maybe not.  As I said before the man in the shop told me it was popular
with Acid Jazz DJs for one of the tracks on it.

Anyway, these are the details I have
Ed Lincoln
Produced by Nilo Sergio
on the Musidisc label from Rio de Janeiro

The track listing

O GANSO   (not the same as the Astrud Gilberto song)
E O CIDE
QUERIDA
ALI TEM
O AMOR QU TU GUARDEI
BALANCO AZUL

MEU QUERIDO AMOR
YA-YA
CARAMBA
COCHISE
EU NAO VOU MAIS
SE TIVER DE SER

definitely one for the cheese lovers.

Have fun

Il Maestro Con Queso

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Suspicious motives.... (& a landfill near you)
Date: 07 Aug 1998 02:40:01 PDT


>Excuse me, are you saying that your primary motivation for collecting
"lounge"
>music is that you are recycling junk culture?  I would think the
primary
>motive is you like the music and THEN maybe you think you've done a
good deed
>by reclaiming/recylcing the old vinyl.
>
>I welcome response from others on this question.
>
>- Michele
>

NO! i don't mean its some kind of environmental concern, that concept
that i might be saving plastic from a landfill has never occurred to me,
i mean it will go there when i die anyway. No, my point is that i got
into this music as a reaction to the regimented consumerism of popular
culture. This is me deciding what i consider to be good and enjoyable,
for whatever mixed and not at all laudable motives, rather than a media
or peer group conception of cool, This opens up decades of popular music
which has been neglected and discarded. For example people often
distinguuish 'proper' jazz from some of what we like. I love bop etc.
but to accept that as the sole history of jazz/ popular music is to have
an 'official' history, like the individualist consumer version of
maoism. Which my friends and i used to call the 'happy shopper' society
(after a brand of tacky products).
i always liked to think what we were doing was as close to putting the
music first as was possible.
hope my motives pass muster....
rob

P.S. What's the Larry Page Orchestra like? A friend saw a CD called up ,
up and away and asked me was it any good.


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 07 Aug 1998 04:21:32 -0600



>This made me wonder, has anyone heard or does anyone own the album of
>jazz interpretations of Serge Gainsbourg's songs which is mentioned in
>the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd?  I don't remember who the artist was, but
>it was a reasonably recent (1994 or something) release from France.
>Anyone?
>
>-------------------
>What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway?

It's very jazzy. I know that sounds naff,but that is all I can say about it.
I much prefer "Comic Strip" from that trio.

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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes
Date: 07 Aug 1998 08:05:57 -0400


MO,

Are they painted, or is it bad lighting?  I also noticed that there is a
shadow on her left (your right) lower eyelid from her top lashes, so maybe
you are seeing shadows, yes?

BTW, I did notice the hair pin, kind of blows the mystery of the look a
little.

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman



> I just started to paint the Denny's "Exotica" Cover (LRP 3034 Mono
> version, of course) in oil and what do I see on a closer look? Sandy
> Warner is wearing painted eyelashes! Painted on the skin above her eyes.
> I guess the girls in the list had seen this right away. I never saw a
> girl do that in real life. Exotic! It also looks as if this
> vaginal-symbolic piece of silver on her forehead is fixed to her hair
> with an ordinary safety pin.
>


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn)
Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:14:41 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-07 06:19:41 EDT, you write:

<< 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
 We're expecting a baby boy in December.  Haven't decided on a name yet.
 Suggestions?
  >>

too bad it ain't a girl -- i have always been fond of Yma.  Or for the banal:
Amy but you could nick name here Yma.


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Subject: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day
Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:20:23 EDT



OK, the weekend is upon us.  I hope everybody has a good one.

Ready to smile???

Who out there remembers putting a 45 on each ear and both wearing and
listening to your music at the same time?

Robert


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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Re: Gainsbourg
Date: 08 Aug 1998 09:14:45 -0400


>What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway?

I adore it - very jazzy, but still accessible, and his singing is really
great.
Up there with 'mondo morricone' and rhino's 'soundtracks with a twist' as
one of my favorite CD releases.

>Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there on the list?
I would love to be, but have never seen ONE of his records at a price I
could afford.

regards

Jonny

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:49:26 -0400


>So who's got a collectors database going?

Boy, am I EVER SO interested in this thread.  I've got a really irritating
completist-archivist streak & have been giving the notion of a database an
awful lot of thought lately.  The idea of data input for what I've already
got is a bit daunting.

Here's another thought: I'd love a db system that would allow me to easily
cut&paste intact track listings onto cassette labels.  I do an awful lot of
taping & goofy label making.

Here's an embarassing admission:  I'm one of those people who makes a good
cassette recording for nearly every LP that might merit repeated listening.
And then the vinyl gets stored away til I need it for a compilation or for
a replacement tape.  Or cover appreciation.  Oy.  That means lotsa LPs and
the added burden of lotsa tapes.  I've pretty much always done that ...
even back in the day when it meant <blush> tapes of Ultravox, Waitresses &
Aztec Camera to play while I drove around suburban Miami in my white Camero
with my hair meticulously feathered back.  But, that was last year (har har
har ...).

>Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER.

I've got mine stashes in about a dozen or so milk crates under some stairs
& pretty much arranged ABC (did I mention I'm pretty obsessive?) by a few
broad categories ... but, I did the bulk of my acquiring unguided & learned
as I went (there was a long time where I seriously thought I was the only
weirdo into "this stuff"), so I'd probably re-categorize them now.  Think
it goes something like male & female vocals, latin mambo & cha cha (think i
probably put my bossa  stuff in there, would mebbe change that), swing &
swing vocals, Burt & Friends (including A&M crap), 70s garbage, keyboard
cheese, box sets, percussion, exotica, old compilations, comedy/spoken
word/misc, gogo/discotheque/swingin' 60s, girlgroups, bonehead vocal
choruses, K-tel-ish collections, and misc EZ bandleaders/groups/loungy
stuff.  And, a really, really big, towering "tobefiled" pile.  Really big.

I have plans to somehow, someday do the shelving bit (all shelving now goes
for books & I've got a similiar capacity problem there), but will probably
wait until my present lease runs out & try to get a place with an extra
"music" room.  Yes, that's right, I think record-collecting has begun to
dictate my housing decisions!! Plus, I just bought a set of old vibes that
are still in my office & I must get them home cause people keep walking by
& playing them with pens & keys (ouch!), but I have no place to put them
....

I ran across an ad for shelving units fit for the serious LP collector.
They were the right size & were sturdy & not a bad price at all.  So, I put
it aside for later & I can't find it now and don't remember where I saw it
...

I'd love to hear how other folks handle these issues ...

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes
Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:55:00 +0000


No, you can see the real eyeleashes, they are almost in front of the
eyeballs. the painted lashes above the eyes could possibly be painted on
the photo and not on her skin, but I doubt it.

I don't think, becoming aware of the little tricks that artist use,
doesn't spoil the mystery. Instead for me the mystery increases when I
see things that I haven't seen before, like discovering a little hidden
secret.

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Subject: (exotica) The waiter from Ipanema
Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:58:01 -0400


Hey, by the way ...

I was in New York last weekend & ended up in Little Brazil looking for
dinner and chose (of course!) to eat in a place called Ipanema.  Good food;
curiously, though, no music.

I had to laugh because after I ordered my meal (including the fried chicken
dish frango bossa nova ... the only real cutesy thing on the menu), the
waiter asked if I was from Brazil 'cause my accent was so good.
Bah-hahaha.  I, in no way, know any Portugese whatsoever ... I was too
embarassed to admit that it was just from listening to too much
Jobim/Gilberto, etc. (!!!)

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Cleaning Again
Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:25:14 -0400


<<
2 parts distilled water
1 part denatured alcohol

I've used scraps of old white t-shirts for rags.

I don't know about long-term effects on the vinyl, but it sure does cut
through
crusty mold.
>>

See, my guess is that if you use alcohol on the LP before every play, sure,
you're in trouble.  But if you use it *once* to get rid of all the grime,
then treat it nice from then on out, I bet you'd be okay.

I mean, come on, that big speil suggests cleaning and vacuuming your LPs
before every play.  Jeez.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse
Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:23:33 -0400


<<
But since you seem intent on finding out my real identity, okay...

I'm John Tesh.

Nat
>>

Wouldn't it be funny if he really was?

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Whither Vik?
Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:18:25 -0400


<<

They are missing the point when they think www broadcasts hurt record
sales.  Its obivious that you buy more music because of what you are
exposed to.  I want to thank Vic for having such cool taste to put
that great music on his site.  Vic's lounge has turned me on to such a
variety of new music that I couldn't wait to go out and buy it.   I
doubt this law will help the record industry.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck
>>



Duh.
Don Tiki, L'Atome, Action +, and TV Dinners all have Vik to thank for
introducing me to their music.  And Ben Folds Five, Beck, Fiona Apple,
Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Jamiroquai and a few other big name bands all can
thank the propagation of MP3s.  Of course, there were an equal number that
I've NOT bought the album for, but hey, I never would have bought the
others either, without hearing off-album tracks.

But these guys don't care about us discriminating music buyers.  We are not
the world.  The rest of the US buys $18 CDs for two cuts and thinks they're
happy.  Tons of people I know have discs that they "like one or two songs"
and just sit through the rest.  Or even not, just skipping to the songs
they like and then going on to the next disc.
How annoying!
Anyway, we can only pray that this spreads to the new generation who are
accustomed to only getting the music they want.
Imagine every title being digitally available!
No such thing as out of print!

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Question List
Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:47:50 -0400


Well, the pump slurped up all the water--now we are dealing with That
Smell. And hey, now *I* want to have a little fun for a minute here too. . .

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

Well, Margaret did give me a cowbell during the darkest days of my Enoch
Light Cha Cha phase. . . But honestly, no. Too scarred by childhood viola
lessons, I'm afraid.

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

_United States Navy Steel Drum Band Plays "Blowin' In The Wind"_ (found in
about 1983). Still one of the odder LPs in my collection. Not exactly
exotica, but this this completely accidental flea-market purchase first
alerted me there might be some other interesting things lurking in those
piles of musty old records. . .

> 3. This list could help you more by...

I love reading people's descriptions of wild music still out there, that I
don't know about yet. Or even if I do own it myself, it's interesting to
hear someone else's take on an artist. (Slightly hypocritical here--
haven't posted a "finds" list of my own for months.)

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Cameras older than me. Vintage appliances. Abberant clip art. Cocktail
glassware. Should I include all the obsolete Macintoshes?

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

Pere Ubu, Twist, Hawaiian slack key, Bad Brains, any record where the
musical style is performed by the "wrong" ethnic group. . . Which reminds
me, does anyone out there know the name of the artist somtimes referred to
as "the Chinese Patsy Cline"? I just have 2 songs on a foreign comp (no
english notes), but she's awesome. . .

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

Mmmm,  well there's a funny story under #8. . .

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> Tell us more!

Well, I was a bit irked when my good CD player died after five years, while
meanwhile vinyl happily marches on. But I often end up being the defender
of digital--I think there are a lot of misconceptions about it. (I may have
posted once about my discovery that you can drill a 3/32"  hole through a
CD and it will probably play without audible glitches)

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

Now this is the funny part. I first heard about the exotica mailing list
though Joseph Holmes' old SABPM website. Just to see what the list was all
about, I surfed over to download some of the old archives. I noticed that
one particular month was a HUGE number of kilobytes compared to all the
others, so naturally I was curious and looked at that one. Well it was huge
because that was the very month Lounge Laura had inaugurated this
questionaire.

When I got to the FEZ question, I gasped--for at that very moment, my
beloved maroon Shriner fez was SITTING RIGHT ON THE MONITOR! I began to
cackle, "At last! I have found my people!!"

(I also own a very gangsterish copper-colored suit, which always arouses
much comment.)

> 9. Shaken or stirred?

Or straight from the brown paper bag.

> 10. I clean my LPs with ...

Ah well, now that would be telling, wouldn't it?

> 11. My home page URL is:

Not actually a homepage, but you can discover the awful truth about
my closet geekiness at:

http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb/roscope/index.html

> 12. I have a Licence To ...

Well, my business card does say I'm a Witch Doctor--but actually I practice
without a license.



Cheers,


 --Ross

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the Net vs. the Record Biz
Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:55:21 -0400


Conspiracy theorists take note:

I've heard it suggested that the proposed 96kHz/24 bit standard for DVD
audio is RIDICULOUS overkill technically (20-bit/48 kHz being essentially
flawless if implemented properly). But 96/24 would make the "audiophile"
music format such a byte hog that only big corporations could afford the
equipment to work with it.

Of course the joke will be on them, when by 2003 a Palm Pilot will be
perfectly capable of doing it. . .

Yours in Uber-Hi-Fi,

 --Ross

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Formation 60
Date: 07 Aug 1998 03:48:01 -0600



>> >> * Various Artists: "Formation 60"
>> >>       CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998
>> >Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more
>> >about this?
>> >I appreciate your help.

>Basically, I'd like to know if it's music recorded in 50's or 60's or
>it's contemporary. I guess the second. Is that right? And who's
>playing in it?

It's from 1957-69 and features MANFRED-LUDWIG SEXTETT,TOBY FISCHELSCHER &
GUENTER WILK, MICHAEL FRITZEN QUARTETT, ORCHESTER KLAUS LENZ, VOLKMAR
SCHMIDT COMBO, THEO SCHUMANN COMBO,WERNER PFUELLER QUINTETT, and MODERN JAZZ
BIG BAND 65..Hope this helps..

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From: Gary Mattingly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 08:27:02 -0700


Hello,

I use Keep It Compact database, it is at:
http://www.keepitcompact.com/main.htm

Some other Database tools can be found at:
http://www.cddb.com:80/downloads/index.html

Keep It Compact has a lot of fields and you can add a few of your own to
be searchable.  I don't know about searching the notes/comments though.

The other database tools might have such a capability but I haven't checked
them out for that particular option.  My database is still pretty small and I
started with the blues sections as opposed to the lounge section.

Gary Mattingly

At 01:31 AM 8/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>So who's got a collectors database going?
>
>I have been sooo busy lately, but dammit, I have got to start getting the
>vinyl organized and entered into a database.
>
>So let's make with the recommendations. Also, if anyone wishes to share
>their database template, well you just go right ahead.  I am particularly
>interested in a system that would let me search large fields of notes
>(possibly for sections of liners) sice I often need to search for things
not easily
>found in straight title,artist,label, etc.. fields.

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day
Date: 07 Aug 1998 08:54:08 PDT


That's a new one on me, but I do recall using my gatefold lps, in my
teen years, mind you, and winnowing stems and seeds from useful product.
A very uncommon practice, I am sure. This was back when it was thought
audio-cassettes were going replace vinyl and every Soundesign console
came with an 8-track.


>> >Who out there remembers putting a 45 on each ear and both wearing
and
>> >listening to your music at the same time?
>> >
>> >Robert


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Question List
Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:06:16 -0700 (PDT)


I can't believe that I'm doing this. This exotica list is very strange
in a very wonderful way.

 1. Are you a musician?   No

 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? In the 70's my
Aunt Lou gave me Quiet Villiage by Martin Denny.  My favorite memory
of this album is when we went to Tikal, Guatemala around 1978. We took
the speakers outside the van & played it really loud in the jungles of
Tikal.  We can't imagine what the tourists thought.
  I also recieved from my aunt Lou the great Maria Bonita album by
Prez Prado and a collection of big band with the great Xavier Cugat
doing his best song, Blen Blen Blen, with the marvelous Miguelito
Valdez on vocals.  Imagine seeing that version of the Cugie band live
at the Waldorf Astoria around 1940.
 We still play Quiet Village every year when our Carnival Club toasts
the mayor of New Orleans, this song plays in the background (before
Chaquita Banana)

3. This list could help you more by...  Convincing Vic or someone
else> to keep Vic's Lounge alive.  Viva Vic's Lounge!

 4. Other exotica/things you collect- tropical Tiki clothes, statues,
& other decorative things to wear on Mardis Gras day.  I also collect
exotica ornaments for my Christmas tree.

 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like.   I'm serious, here goes: I
am now buying Indie Pop the most after exotica.  However I still like
Soca from Trinadad, Zouc, Oldies pop,  Soucous, Compass, merengue,
late 60's,  early cuban music, Texas swing(Bob Wills is the King),
late 60's early 70's country rock, disco, jazz, fusion(especialy
Weather Report), classical(prefer vocals),  early new age, early rap,
early 80's & bluegrass. I know I left something out, oh yeah, Cowboy
music & occasional alternative bands.

6. What are you just dying to tell us?
 I think all genres of music have some exotica in them. In other words
exotica is in the ear of the beholder.

 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound
quality consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed
clarity of CDs? Tell us more!
 I think that 78's have potentially  the best sound quality, followed
by 12 inch 45s &33,  45 singles, lps,  8 tracs, cassetts and finally
cds.
 The big advances in sound have been convience.  Cds are the easiesl
to play and they don't skip, but they have a shorter life span then
vinyl.

8. Own a fez?  NO. other lounge-wear of which you are proud?  Grass
skirts on my head, shoulders and waist on Mardis Gras Day.

9. Shaken or stirred?  Shake shake shake,  shake shake shake,  shake
my.........Shake my...........

10. I clean my LPs with ...distilled water and an old disc washer brush.

11. My home page URL is: The exotica list is my home.

12. I have a Licence To ...get another Visa card to buy more albums.


Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 13:08:11 -0500


At 09:49 AM 8/7/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>So who's got a collectors database going?

>Here's another thought: I'd love a db system that would allow me to easily
>cut&paste intact track listings onto cassette labels.  I do an awful lot of
>taping & goofy label making.

The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging
and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One
(or more) of them may work for y'all.

<http://www.old-time.com/softw.html>

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From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:19:37 -0700



>
>The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging
>and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One
>(or more) of them may work for y'all.


I've found great resources for music collections on download.com.
Generally, there's not much freeware, but lots of shareware and
limited-time full programs.  More options for pc's (as usual), but the Mac
ones look really nice.

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Question List
Date: 07 Aug 1998 13:28:38 -0400


> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
I have played piano, cello, bass, acoustic and electric, guitar and
harmonica, in almost every case with enthusiasm outstripping technique.

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
A set of 78's of Yma Sumac owned by my Aunt and Uncle, Love for Sale or
Thermopylae by Stan Kenton owned by my parents.

> 3. This list could help you more by...
Post those reviews!  It's a great way to learn (although, some of you like
some people more than I do!).

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
My wife likes souvenir shot glasses, between the two of us we have about
700 videotapes, including Ferrante and Teicher playing on an Ernie Kovacs
show (I just don't where that footage is!).

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
I listen to anything once.  That's my motto.  I am in a 60's Garage/R&B
band now, and I collect Film Music, Jazz, Blues and still like my old ELP
and Yes albums.  Scary secret is my Rick Springfield "Bop 'Til You Drop"
single, which I cannot blame on inebriation or impressing a date, because I
happen to like parts of the song (it was a buck!).  Even though I am
predisposed culturally to dislike the many varieties of U.S. Southern
accents (those were the ones I heard in the archival footage most and they
were usually spouting racist bile), not only have I moved to the South, I
have long enjoyed Western Swing and I bought a Hal Ketchum single.  Music
of almost any other country fascinates me and Classical Music, particularly
turn-of-the-century Russians (Stravinsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Prokoviev) is a
lot of fun.  I am, however, still pretty firm in my dislike of what hits
the Top 40, if for no other reason it tends to homogenize or exclude a
wonderful world of music to potentially wanting ears.  The great thing
about music is, no one said I had to pick.

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
Soylent Green is PEEOPLLLE...*Plop*

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> Tell us more!

I am going to annoy somebody by saying I have no true preference.  I have
great sentiment and enjoyment of vinyl (have you seen my site?) I kvelled
when they reissued Blue Note albums with extra tracks and they are smaller
and when you move, boy is that a factor.  I just wish that one had not
supplanted the other.  As for sound, if you bring up a good sounding CD I
can find a great sounding LP.  For those who forget the past, I can tell
you about perfectly horrible sounding LPs from major labels.  For those who
think that CD's all sound better, there are lousy ones, too.  There are
some things that are being issued or reissued on CD that are not being
issued on LP (which is a pity, however I can do little about it) and when
done right, can be great fun.  I have a CD here of the Pretty Things which
contains the album "Get the Picture?" and also 13 minutes of archival
footage!  Can't do that on an LP!  Imagine an Yma Sumac CD, with her
appearance in "Secret of the Incas" or an interview.  On the other hand, I
can tell you the extent of damage that a 45 suffered when I tried to put it
in my CD drive (it was NOT Rick Springfield.  Leave me be about that!)

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
No, I don't.  I feel that I don't look horribly good in clothes,
fortunately there is a woman I know that sharply disagrees!  So I married
her.  It was time to Fez the music and dance.

>8a. Sorry?
Yes.

> 9. Shaken or stirred?
I am both!

Was you ever bitten by a dead bee? (There is a right answer to this, too!)

> 10. I clean my LPs with ...
A Discwasher brush and a dollop of love.

> 11. My home page URL is:

http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar or
http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/main.html if you wish to skip the first part.

> 12. I have a Licence To ...
Thrill, baby!   Actually,
Be a Christian
Be a Motor Vehicle Operator
Broadcast in the US.
Spell it "License" but pronounce it "Licence".

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:10:58 PDT



>>What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway?
>>
>It is my favorite of the three collections.  But you know Gainsbourg is
such a genius... Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there >on
the list?

i think it's a marvellous cd, lots of hilarious franglais (that would
make M. Jack froth at the gills) and faux american pastiches including
that (fake) albinoni adaggio done as a jazz tune on the vibes.
Unfortunately i'm not a big Gainsbourg collector, there just isn't a lot
to be found in ireland. Which brings me to a story. The other week i was
passing one of my favourite record shops and heard some serge coming
from the speakers. the guy working was not the usual so i hoped i might
pick up some serge vinyl for cheap. i shuffle in and flip through the
records (got the fistfull of dollars / for a few dollars more
soundtrack) and go up to the counter, as i'm paying i go 'hey that's
serge gainsbourg isn't it?' he tells me he put the tape on as it
attracted people in off the street, including the guitarist from sonic
youth just the day before....
Basically old serge records are hard to find round here.
yours covetously
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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 07 Aug 1998 19:45:42 +0200


>It is my favorite of the three collections.  But you know Gainsbourg is
>such a genius... Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there on the
>list?

Not really, only a recent convert. I can easily hear Initials BB 50 times in
a row.

Anyone can pinpoint me to  the original version of "Le Chanson de Slogan"?
There's a cover by Blonde Redhead on that Gainsbourg volume of the Great
Jewish Music series and it has some utterly mesmerizing chords. Curious how
the original sounds like.

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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 11:22:03 +0000


Lou Smith wrote:

> The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging
> and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One
> (or more) of them may work for y'all.
>
> <http://www.old-time.com/softw.html>
>
> -Lou

Thanks Lou... Hey While we are on the subject of old time radio,
a GREAT RealAudio site is Yesterday USA - a 24/7 netcast station
specializing in classic radio drama. Great Stuff!

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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day
Date: 07 Aug 1998 11:32:56 +0000


> That's a new one on me, but I do recall using my gatefold lps, in my
> teen years, mind you, and winnowing stems and seeds from useful product.
> A very uncommon practice, I am sure. This was back when it was thought
> audio-cassettes were going replace vinyl and every Soundesign console
> came with an 8-track.

Hehehhehhe... I hope you were being sarcastic about it being an uncommon
practice. In my househlod (shared with three other college guys) we had
a particular gatefolded Bob Marley album (I believe it was Rastaman
Vibration) that was our designated "rolling" platform.

But as stoned as I was, I NEVER hung 45's on my ears.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day
Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:05:12 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-07 14:34:55 EDT, you write:

<< But as stoned as I was, I NEVER hung 45's on my ears. >>

You don't hang um, you pull an ear thru the hole.  You really need to try it.

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 12:23:45 -0700


At 01:31 AM 8/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>So who's got a collectors database going?

 Me.  Two, actually.  Well, better make that four.  All in MS Access.

One is to list my cd's, the other is to list every song on each cd.  The
other two are the same but for vinyl, but they haven't been started yet.  I
wanted to finish the cd ones first.

The cd list has the following fields:  Artist name, cd title, label, cat#,
year of release, remastering credits (whom and what studio, if available),
and then try to categorize it, which I've limited to four fields.  This
database is completed.

The cd song list has the following fields: Artist name, title of song, cd
title that it came from, year the song was ORIGINALLY released (or
recorded), songwriter(s), and the four-field category.  This is a monstrous
task.  I've entered about 8000 so far, and I expect it to be at about
45,000 songs when completed.  I have lots of compilation discs (which often
don't list the year released or songwriter, so there's been lots of
research involved), so it's pretty neat to put the database's artist field
in alphabetical order to see how many songs I have by a particular artist,
or the song list to see what songs were covered by different artists, or
the songwriters different songs, making tapes specific by year, etc.

I imagine the vinyl databases will be similar in layout to the cd
databases, but I'm not going to think about it too hard till I finish the
behemoth cd song list.

Dave




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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day
Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:16:11 -0400


>You don't hang um, you pull an ear thru the hole.  You really need to try it.

Yet ANOTHER activity outmoded by CD's!



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From: [e-mail] (Hess Jeffery)
Subject: (exotica) Question List
Date: 07 Aug 1998 14:08:28 -0500


 1. Are you a musician? Explain..

Yessiree I am, I play guitar, bass, drums and anything else I can fake. I
currently play in a group called the Gearginders (hence the name,
Grinderman), and drums in an outfit called Drunkabilly.  I also like to
record tracks myself using a 4-track.  Lately I've been composing some
funky-porno-go-go-vamps.



 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

My just deceased grandpa's Esquivel-Strings Aflame reel to reel.  He had
a dark/electonics room in his house and I would gaze in awe at all the
hi-fi splendor, reel machines, movie and slide projectors.



 3. This list could help you more by...

It already helps, I've asked numerous questions about various topics and
recieved well-informed answers.  I've learned a hellava lot in the few
short months I've been on exotica.



 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Records, of course, furniture, lamps, ashtrays, and anything else I can
fanagle at the flea market.



 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

I come from mostly punk roots, Ramones, Dead Boys, Johnny Thunders, Patti
Smith.  I'm also into a lot of psych/garage/rockabilly right on up to
ABBA.



 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

UGGA BUGGA, BUNGA LUNGA WONGA!!!



 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?

LP.  Sound and asthetic reasons, although I think cd's are a nessesary
evil.



 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe
it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

Sorry, no fezes.  I have a couple of swingin' pinstripe suits though.



 9. Shaken or stirred?

Yes.



 10. I clean my LPs with ...

Formaldahide and spit.



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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A Swingin'  Question
Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:54:59 EDT


Has anybody heard of West Coast Swing? My soul record detective (Mr. Eddie B)
tells me that its a new black sound emanating from the left coast and that
it's hot. I asked him to name some groups, songs. He said he know very little,
but was going to hear a DJ this Saturday night somewhere on the north shore
above Boston, and stressed that its more smooth and laid back than the Big Bad
Cherry-Poppin' sound I referred to. He named one group, "Bad To The Bone" who
have a song that is an excellent instrumental. It gets played as a show-ender
for our weekly Disco-Dusty night at Il Panino on Thursday nights in
Boston....Does anyone know anything about this sound??..Jimmy


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  RE: (exotica) erotica Italia
Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:58:19 EDT


Other Music--15 E 4th St. NYC, NY 10003 [phone], wwwothermusic.com,
fax-[phone]--speak to Josh


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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse
Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:59:41 EDT


Nat--the Mike Barnicle of the exotica digest ;-))


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re: Suspicious motives.... (& a landfill near you)
Date: 07 Aug 1998 16:08:19 EDT


the Larry Page Orchestra is excellent classy lounge/e-z with a baseline of
Bacharachish wordless classy orchestrations for Saturday night dress-ups, and
cocktails in elegant surroundings


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Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 8.3.98
Date: 07 Aug 1998 16:35:20 EDT


"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am
-----Billy Taylor Orchestra-Theme From David Frost-----
Living Trio-Flying Nun Theme-LP, LT plays TV & Movie Music
Martin Denny-Thm Manchurian Candidate-LP Another Tst Hny
Les Baxter-Voodoo Dreamer-UltraLounge
Somebody-Crime Wave-CD Cafe Noir (Time Records Archives)
Machito-Alex Mambo-CD, The Latin Vogue, UK Charly
Henry Mancini-Senor Peter Gunn-LP Latin Sound Of Henry Mncni
Henry Jerome-Shadow Of Your Smile-7" 45 on UA (now sound)
James Taylor Quartet-Music To Watch Girls By-CD Loungpalooz
Gloria Scott-(A Case Of) Too Much Lovemakin'-45 Casablanca
-Walter Wanderly-Beloved Melancholy-LP Rainforest
-Super-I Didn't Expect To Be This Tempted-CD Single (Finland)
-Piero Piccioni-La Rai Si Perenta-CD Easy Tempo 5
-Les Elgart-Mar Cha Cha-LP Designs For Dancing
-Manfred Minnich-Shopping Center-CD TV Dinners 60's Scamp
-David Rose-Gay Spirits-Ultralounge
Barry Gray Orch-Sting Ray-CD Barry Gray Orchestra
Xavier Cugat-Its Not Unusual/Goldfinger-LP Feeling Good
Ferrante & Teicher-Oh Calcutta-LP Getting Together
Love Letter-Barbarella-CD Songs For The Jet Set
Ventures-Theme From Charlie's Angels-CD Televentures
Peter Thomas Orch-Moon Down-CD Raumpartouille
Burt Bacharach-Something Big-LP Burt Bacharach
Quincy Jones-Along Came Betty (Benny Golson-LP Body Heat
La Yellow 357-Quelle Sensation Bizarre-CD Cocktail Shaker
BR Orchestra-Mais Que Nada-Superstereo 6 (Plastic)
-Ramsey Lewis-Jade East-LP Up Pops Ramsey
-Sonny Lester-Salome's Veil-CD Exotica
-Los Amigos Invincible-Cha Cha Borro-CD Los Amigos Invincib.
-Euro Boys-Siamese Island-CD Euro Boys
-Eliminators-The Saint-CD Surfbeat Behind The Iron Curtain
-Mundell Lowe-Perry Mason-CD of TV Music
-Family Affair-Black Belt Jones-Brit Comp of Blaxploitation
-----Wayne Newton-Wives And Lovers-----


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Eldon Shamblin obit
Date: 07 Aug 1998 17:04:04 -0500


    TULSA, Okla. (AP) -- Eldon Shamblin, a guitarist whose fluid style and
western-swing innovations helped create the classic sound of Bob Wills and
the Texas Playboys, died Wednesday of heart failure. He was 82.
    Rolling Stone magazine called Shamblin ``the world's greatest rhythm guitar
player.'' Musician magazine dubbed him one of the ``most important prime
movers in guitar history.''
    Shamblin contributed a jazz influence to the Texas Playboys, arranging such
swing standards as ``San Antonio Rose'' and ``Faded Love'' before leaving
the Wills band in 1959.
    After Wills' death, Shamblin kept the swing sound alive by joining a group
called the Bob Wills' Original Texas Playboys. He toured and recorded with
Merle Haggard from 1975 until the mid 1990s. He came out with his final solo
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) fwd: Disc-O-Logue
Date: 07 Aug 1998 17:24:14 -0500


Disc-O-Logue--French Language Popular Recording Catalog
http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/discologue/

Can't remember who sang "La Machine a Laver"? Disc-O-Logue, the catalogue
of French-language popular music recordings, has the answer for you.
Disc-O-Logue, a music publication created by Louise Lamothe listing French
language songs from Canada, France, and other parts of the French-speaking
world, was available in Canada for LPs and 45-rpm discs from 1962 to 1979.
The National Library of Canada acquired the Disc-O-Logue archive in 1986
and has converted part of the it, information on 90,000 songs, into a
database which can be searched by song title, performer, composer, format,
and label. In addition, the site features a gallery of album cover artwork,
examples of best seller lists from 1963 to 1966, and a description of
Madame Lamothe's process of creating Disc-O-Logue.


BrowserTune 98 [Javascript]
http://www.browsertune.com/bt98/

_Windows_ magazine's Fred Langa provides this site, a quick and easy way to
test the capabilities of your browser. Nearly three hundred features can be
tested via popup javascript windows so you can quickly see what features
your browser supports. Tests are available in twelve major topics including
foundation elements, graphics, tables and frames, scripting, speed, and
security. The site is written in an easy-to-understand style and the tests
function as a browser tutorial. Two older non-Javascript tests are also
available. This is a marvelous way to find out the capabilities of your
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From: "Jeff Chenault" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Yma Rocks!!!
Date: 07 Aug 1998 20:34:36 -0400


Just wanted to let everyone know that the "Yma Rocks" CD is now available.
This is a Limited Numbered Edition of 1000 and is available from the Yma
Sumac Homepage at ..........
http://www.accesscom.com/~pc/sumac/
Just recieved mine the other day and it is F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C!!!!!!!
It is the authorized reissue of the famous "Miracles" album.  All Les Baxter
originals except El Condor Pasa.  Yma Sumac backed by a rocking fuzz guitar
rock outfit.  It also includes 2 previously unreleased bonus tracks also
written by the late great Les Baxter.

Get them while they last kiddies!!!!!!

Jeff







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Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 07 Aug 1998 20:44:27 EDT


Randi confessed:

<< >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
 that I am going to see Bobby Sherman, Peter Noone and Davy Jones in concert
 on Saturday. Also I once had a poodle named Barky. >>

I think I can top that - on my birthday, last July 15, my wife and I took her
neices, ages 5, 10 and 12 to see HANSON!!








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Subject: (exotica) Auto Entry for Collection Databases
Date: 07 Aug 1998 21:22:00 EDT




<< I've entered about 8000 so far, and I expect it to be at about
 45,000 songs when completed.  >>

some one gave me a softwear program on a floppy disc about 6 months ago (that
i lost somehow) that had a site that you could go to and it would
automatically load the titles from a cd in you drive to the cdplayer config.
file in your windows folder.

has anyone heard of this.

Robert


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Subject: (exotica) True confessions
Date: 07 Aug 1998 21:46:52 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-07 20:47:10 EDT, Basic Hip wrote:

<< Randi confessed:

 << >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
  that I am going to see Bobby Sherman, Peter Noone and Davy Jones in concert
  on Saturday. Also I once had a poodle named Barky. >>

and then added:

 I think I can top that - on my birthday, last July 15, my wife and I took her
 neices, ages 5, 10 and 12 to see HANSON!! >>

I don't know if mine beats that but I took my wife (for her birthday this past
April) to see Vic Damone.  Now we are in our mid thirties and I swear, we were
the youngest ones at this rather large theater.  After Randell's Esquire
article about how the kids (i.e. 20somethings) were eating up Damone I thought
we would at least see a few more people there with at least some remaning (or
non-gray) hair.

Robert


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Subject: (exotica) I love The Drake
Date: 07 Aug 1998 21:51:31 EDT


Someone - I can't remember who - turned me on to this Pete Drake steel
guitarist awhile back.  They put the tune "Ain't She Sweet" on a comp tape.  I
marveled at the puzzling technique he used to make his guitar "talk".  Or at
least if sounded like that.  Not really sure how he did it - sort of like the
sonovox in Sparky's Magic Piano or Rusty In Orchestraville.

I stored the name Pete Drake in my memory bank and checked around for his LP's
ever since.  Never saw a one until I picked this up just today:

Pete Drake "Steel Away" on Canaan Records, CAS-9640.  Looks like mid 60's.
Another Waco Texas religious label with THE FOUR GUYS backing Pete up on
vocals.  "Gospel Music At It's Best" with titles such as Happy Trails, What A
Friend, When They Ring Those Golden Bells, The Eyes Of Jesus and Stairway To
Heaven.

Ain't She Sweet is not on this record, but I was pleased to hear that a number
of tracks do have what must be his trademark technique of making his guitar
"talk".

File under Incredibly Strange Religious Music - right next to whistling Ralph
Platt and Marcy.


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 07 Aug 1998 22:22:13 -0400


At 12:39 AM 07/08/98 -0700, Dave & LeAnn Davidson wrote:
>>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
>We're expecting a baby boy in December.  Haven't decided on a name yet.
>Suggestions?

Heino.





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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 22:22:20 -0400


At 09:49 AM 07/08/98 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>>Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER.

I've got a friend who has all of his ten thousand or so albums in
alphabetical order regardless of genre.  I found that especially strange
but apparently there are others like that.

I have my records in approximately twenty categories.  The jazz, country,
bluegrass, blues, R&B and rock are each in alphabetical order.  The other
fifteen or so categories - which more or less make up the stuff we talk
about here - are NOT in alphabetical order.

My rationale - and it makes sense to me - is that when I want to play a
jazz record, it's quite possible I might think to myself "How about Sonny
Rollins?" so this way I can find Sonny Rollins easily.

Whereas it's very seldom I think to myself "How about some Lenny Dee?".  I
might think "how about some cheesy organ" and so Lenny and Sir Julian and
Eddie Osborne and George Wright etc are in a group together.  I don' t
really care about finding a particular record, just as long as I can flip
through a bunch of them... so they don't need to be in any particular order.

I know a couple of people who not only keep the records in alphabetical
order but within each individual artist's collection, the records are in
order of release.  Makes sense I guess.

And my favourite ever was the guy who had his records grouped together by
the colour of the spine.  Think about that one for a second.  All the red
spines together, moving to orange, then green...

Unfortunately most spines are white and it also made finding records hell.

Nat



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 22:46:58 EDT


In a message dated 8/7/98 10:24:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> I've got a friend who has all of his ten thousand or so albums in
>  alphabetical order regardless of genre.  I found that especially strange
>  but apparently there are others like that.

My collection is also in strict alphabetical order with no regard to genre.
Some things are just to hard for me to classify.  However, a good stack of 100
or so LPs always stays unaplhabetized, as I am to lazy to immediately re-
alphabatize after a listening session.  Also, my 500 or so singles are not
ordered in anyway (except I generally know which stack a certain 45 is most
likely to be in) making finding them a real pain.

I would also like to get ahold of the program that automatically lists any CD
placed in the computer disc drive.  I'd just listen to my collection over
several years, and voila -- all would be catalogued!

Larry


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) top this, was: Question List
Date: 07 Aug 1998 23:24:31 -0400 (EDT)


At 08:44 PM 8/7/98 EDT, BasicHip wrote:
>
>Randi confessed:
>
><< >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
> that I am going to see Bobby Sherman, Peter Noone and Davy Jones in concert
> on Saturday. Also I once had a poodle named Barky. >>
>
>I think I can top that - on my birthday, last July 15, my wife and I took her
>neices, ages 5, 10 and 12 to see HANSON!!

Nah, you'll top Randi in 35 years when you tell us then that you saw Hanson
the previous week.

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From: Mark Benton Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I love The Drake
Date: 07 Aug 1998 23:42:11 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> Pete Drake "Steel Away" on Canaan Records, CAS-9640.  Looks like mid 60's.
> Another Waco Texas religious label with THE FOUR GUYS backing Pete up on
> vocals.  "Gospel Music At It's Best" with titles such as Happy Trails, What A
> Friend, When They Ring Those Golden Bells, The Eyes Of Jesus and Stairway To
> Heaven.

FYI, Canaan is not "Another Waco Texas religious label."  Canaan was the Southern
(or country) Gospel label of Word Records.  During the 60's and on into the 70's I
would guess that they were the largest Christian record company.  Most all of the
stuff Word put out was top-notch.  I seem to remember they were purchased by ABC
in the mid-70's.

Mark Reed
Phenix City AL
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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I love The Drake
Date: 07 Aug 1998 21:59:40 -0700



Canaan records also has what is billed as the first Moog-Ssynthesized
worship album... Geez I wish I could remember the name.... It's pretty
deranged...musicially, there's nothing much to write the Pastor about,
though.

As I remember, there was a reference in the liners of how the Moog needed to
be
"approved" for worship before the deal could go down. Apparently, there was
some
opposition.

The real payoff on that record was the cartoon on the back of the
"conductor" asking
the moogist (???) where the string section is while he puzzles over all the
wires
on the contraption.  Heee HEEE, them Christians are blessed with HUMOR!!!

>
>Pete Drake "Steel Away" on Canaan Records, CAS-9640.  Looks like mid 60's.
>Another Waco Texas religious label with THE FOUR GUYS backing Pete up on
>vocals.  "Gospel Music At It's Best" with titles such as Happy Trails, What
A
>Friend, When They Ring Those Golden Bells, The Eyes Of Jesus and Stairway
To
>Heaven.
>
>File under Incredibly Strange Religious Music - right next to whistling
Ralph
>Platt and Marcy.
>




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From: Gary Mattingly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Auto Entry for Collection Databases
Date: 07 Aug 1998 22:15:16 -0700


Hello,

Keep It Compact and other CD database tools on this page:

http://www.cddb.com:80/downloads/index.html

can link to the online cddb (cd database) and put in cd artist, cdtitle and
track
titles, if someone has already put them in the database.  It is a very large
database.  Some of the players do the same thing, like CD Valet.

Gary

At 09:22 PM 8/7/98 -0400, you wrote:

>some one gave me a softwear program on a floppy disc about 6 months ago (that
>i lost somehow) that had a site that you could go to and it would
>automatically load the titles from a cd in you drive to the cdplayer config.
>file in your windows folder.
>
>has anyone heard of this.


--   Gary S. Mattingly
--   [e-mail]
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise
Date: 07 Aug 1998 17:05:01 +0200


[e-mail] (Desmond K. Hill) wrote:

>can anyone assist in my search to uncover a reasonably priced vinyl copy of
>Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise?

    exists on cd

>if you haven't bought it by now, you really should locate a copy of
>Perrey et Chazam's illustrious 'e c l e k t r o n i c s' lp ASAP.
>it is incredible.  but don't believe me, go check it for yourselves.. :)

    Jean Jacques Perrey is back, which on itself is great, although
this LP is certainly not the best thing he ever did. Side A is more a
novelty than a Moog record, full of musical jokes. The whole LP lacks good
melodies. Instead of writing the melody first, and then playing it with
lots of funny sounds, they seam to have worked the other way 'round,  by
chaining wacky sounds without hardly any melodic structure. Side B is the
more serious side, with disco/house/technoid rhythms that might be too
aggressive for the typical "old" J.J. Perrey fan, but then again, they
might attract a whole new and young public. rated 3/5.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:57:59 +0200


><< Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated would be ongoing work, any
> volunteers for that one? >>

    I'm _already_ doing it: collecting (and checking!) each URL
    mentioned on this list; my links page is updated several times a week;
    i've automated the whole thing, so it's not really hard work.

    "Linquarium": <http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/>

        Johan


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Subject: (exotica) upcoming Basta releases: Music out of the Moon and more....
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:27:13 +0200


Basta said they're gonna release these _definitely_:

Perfume set to Music - Les Baxter&Samuel Hoffman
Piece of Mind - Billy May&Samuel Hoffman
Music out of the Moon - Les Baxter&Samuel Hoffman

and several others (that i don't know):

>>The Unexpected - Raymond Scott
>>Manhattan Research Institute - Raymond Scott
>>Arthur Ebeling - Paris
>>Beau Hunks Saxophone - Soctette
>>Guido Nielsen - Plays Joseph Lamb
>>Magnificent Seven - The Best of the Worst

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From: Michael D. Toth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Impending Enoch
Date: 08 Aug 1998 10:15:49 -0000



Hello again, Exotica listers:

A reminder to folks that the transatlantic Enoch Light birthday memorial
events in New York City, Kent (Ohio), Minneapolis, Columbus, and Glasgow
Scotland will be happening during the next week or so. For more
information on the events, visit:

http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light/birthday/

Also, I'll be going on Zombo's Mondo Record Party Sunday night Aug. 9 on
Akron's WAPS 91.3FM to promote the Kent event. For those of you into that
sort of thing, the station DOES now have a live Real Audio feed (Go to
http://www.wapsfm.com/ and select "Spinning Now"). I'll be playing a lot
of the go-go/spy stuff by Enoch and his contemporaries that I'll be
spinning at the party, as well as some cool E.L. material that wouldn't
mesh as well into the live DJ event but is well worth playing. The radio
show runs from 11 PM to 1 AM (Eastern) -- I know I'll be on the midnight
to 1:00 block -- dunno if I'll be on the 11:00 hour too or not yet.



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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I love The Drake
Date: 08 Aug 1998 12:00:44 -0400


At 09:51 PM 07/08/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Someone - I can't remember who - turned me on to this Pete Drake steel
>guitarist awhile back.

Well I can't bother to go through all my records right now but Pete Drake
plays steel on countless country records.

Nat



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Birds and Brass
Date: 08 Aug 1998 10:15:21 -0600


If memory serves me correct, someone said they were after a Birds & Brass
LP. I have found one in a local shop if anyone is interested. But...are
there more than one Birds & Brass LPs? Because maybe this isn't the one
you're after. I had a listen, and it didn't do it for me, but I have a few
friends that are rather into B&B. Anyway, please get in touch ASAP and I can
procure it for you. It was like =A36. And immaculate.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Planet of the Apes CD
Date: 08 Aug 1998 16:13:36 +0200


Dave Davidson <[e-mail]> wrote:


>the only one
>I'd recommend, although I believe its NOT budget priced (prob around $15):
>Planet of the Apes, Varese Sarabande, VSD5848, 1997
>I completely agree with the fact that this soundtrack is REQUIRED listening

    Think of carl stalling writing music for some serious thriller
"cartoon", based upon scores written for him by bartok & stravinsky,
instead of raymond scotts. Lots of drum accents and other outbursts of solo
& group instruments. A little bit of special effects, lots and lots of
(((echo))), and tempo changes. Moody, but not dark and certainly not harsh
or atonal! Very entertaining, dramatic, depicts adventure, danger,
mystery... This CD also contains a 16 minute suite (previously unreleased,
it says?) of music from "Escape from the planet of the apes". rated 5/5

        Johan


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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969
Date: 08 Aug 1998 11:34:38 -0700


At 05:05 PM 8/7/98 +0200, you wrote:
>
>[e-mail] (Desmond K. Hill) wrote:
>
>>can anyone assist in my search to uncover a reasonably priced vinyl copy of
>>Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise?
>
>    exists on cd

Recently re-released 20-bit remastered.  It looks like Reprise is slowly
doing this with Frank's catalogue.

I love when Frank sings "Da Guhl From Eep-uh-neem-uh"

Dave


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Subject: (exotica) Night Stalker & Martin
Date: 08 Aug 1998 11:51:01 -0700



Does anyone know if:

there is a soundtrack issue (CD of LP) to the movie "The Night Stalker"
(pilot movie for the TV series), 1971, music by Robert Cobert?

there is a soundtrack issue (CD of LP) to the movie "Martin", 1977,
directed by George Romero, music by ?

Dave


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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Impending Enoch
Date: 08 Aug 1998 13:51:27 -0600


Hello all you in Exoticaland--

The transcontinental Enoch Light celebrations prompted me to do a bit of
evangelizing that paid off unexpectedly today. Every Saturday The Lounge
Show airs on K00P, an Austin community station. The impending Enoch
celebrations prompted me to contact the host, Jay Robillard, and tell him
about this lounge high holiday. We chatted and emailed and Jay promised
he'd do something to honor the master.

A lo, he doth celebrate today, playing several Command tunes throughout his
program and yakking about Enoch's labels and musicians. Since I had an
appointment, I heard only the intro tune (something from Faraway Places --
Enoch with harpischord!), but I'm told Enoch got his due throughout the
program.

I would've loved to work on a street dance but perhaps next year. At any
rate, at least the guy got a few new fans deep in the heart of Texas. Maybe
I'll regret this, since I've always found Command lps in the local thrifts.
Nonetheless, thanks, Jay, if you're onlist. And thanks Michael and other
listers for stirring (or was that shaking?) a tsunami of Enoch excitement.

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop,  August 9
Date: 08 Aug 1998 18:24:48 -0400


"Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl.  Space Bop features
music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier!
Comments & questions welcome.

Space Bop #10 - Acid? Jazz?


Jack Marshall:  The Munsters Theme  "Ultra Lounge #13 - TV Town"
(Capitol)
Gert Wilden:  Follow Me  "Schulmadchen Report"(Crippled Dick)
Riz Ortolani:  Cani e Gatti  "Mo'Plen 2000" (Irma)
I Componenti:  Zeppelin  "Mo'Plen 3000" (Irma)
Maurice Pop:  Auto-Salon  "Power Pop" (Motor)
Eddie Caruso & The Five:  Smoky  "Mo'Plen 2000" (Irma)
Peter Thomas Sound Group:  Mao  "Get Easy Vol. 4 - Germany" (Motor)
I Componenti:  Recital  "Mo'Plen 3000" (Irma)
A Certain Frank:  Nobody? No!  "Nobody? No!" (AtaTak)
Amon Tobin:  Sordid  "Permutation" (Ninja Tune)
Tipsy:  Space Golf  "Trip Tease" (Asphodel)
Dimitri From Paris:  Attente Musicale  "Sacre Bleu" (Atlantic)
Sukia:  Gary Super Macho  "Gary Super Macho EP" (Nickel Bag)
United Future Organization:  Nica's Dream  "3rd Perspective" (Antilles)
I Gres:  Tropical  "Mo'Plen 3000" (Irma)
Mario Molino E I Beats:  Operazione Beat  "Mo'Plen 2000" (Irma)
Al Caiola:  The Mod Squad Theme  "Ultra Lounge #13 - TV Town" (Capitol)


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Subject: (exotica) Remove
Date: 08 Aug 1998 18:31:23 EDT


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject:  Re: (exotica) I love The Drake
Date: 09 Aug 1998 01:22:34 -0400


>Canaan records also has what is billed as the first Moog-Ssynthesized
>worship album... Geez I wish I could remember the name....

That would be _Ralph Carmichael Presents the Electric Symphony (The Moog
Synthesizer)_, featuring Fred Warman programming and Clark Gassman playing
the moog.

My copy is on Light Records, "a division of Lexicon Music, Waco Texas."

The songs are mostly Carmichael originals, not overtly gospel-ish--mostly
innocuous pop-rock. I found side one pretty lacking in oomph, but side two
brings up the rhythm section a bit and wraps up with a rousing Moog
"Hallelujah Chorus."

You're right, the liner notes are pretty interesting: "It's just possible
that the transistorized ears of the younger generation will find the
electical dynamics of the Moog very pleasing. . . "

Phweeeeet Zeeeeeeerrrrppp,

 --Ross

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hi There! / Question List
Date: 09 Aug 1998 05:22:43 EDT


Howdy y'all!
I've been sorta lurking on the digest for a while, but i finally got my own
account.

1. Are you a musician? Explain...
yes. i have a band-Tipsy-that some of you may have heard. I also played in a
lot of
 weird noise/electronic groups, and played trombone in high school.

2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
actually, it was probably movies that did it; Japanese monsters & James Bond,
also a lot of west coast "cool" jazz (stan getz, dave brubeck). I liked Cal
Tjader & Henry Mancini way before i got into rock music and beyond.

3. This list could help you more by...
remaining its beautiful self.

4. Other exotica/things you collect
movie paraphenalia/videos, old trash paperbacks &men's magazines

5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
old reggae, 60s asian pop, 40s-70s r&b, fake (and real) psychedelia, Harry
Partch, vintage hillbilly stuff,indian soundtracks, krautrock, experimental/
electronic/ old-school industrial, selected punk & postpunk weirdness, some
really painful 70s pop, i could go on forever...

6. What are you just dying to tell us?
Mingo 2000 is my very favorite current"exotica" group
also, I just heard a muzak version of boston's"more than a feeling" while i
was eating indonesian food

7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
Tell us more!
LP, of course. Less convenient, but a much better fetish-object. Besides,
Alvin Cash and the Registers isn't available on cd.
Actually, i like singles best- 45 or 78.

8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
no fez. i have been acquiring a lot of tropical shirts.

9. Shaken or stirred?
draft

10. I clean my LPs with ...
old t-shirts.

11. My home page URL is:
pretty embarassing right now.

12. I have a Licence To ...
create music any way i see fit, PAL.


have fun!
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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I love The Drake + Weekend finds
Date: 09 Aug 1998 14:30:31 +0100


>Canaan records also has what is billed as the first Moog-Ssynthesized
>worship album... Geez I wish I could remember the name....

I have a wierd one called Caldara - A Moog Mass.

This is moody, eery and frankly very depressing hyms and psalms through a
vocoder with wierd moogy effects and droning medieval-type sounds. I
haven't listened to the whole LP yet (in fact I haven't listened to one
whole track yet) for fear of committing suicide.

On a lighter note I got Timothy Leary's Tune In Turn On Drop Out soundtrack
this weekend - fantastic, equally wierd sitar and spacey, unearthly voices
galore - top!

Also Pierre Henry's Machine Dance LP - typical Pierre but without any
dancable tunes, just stupid noises

And John Schroeder's 'You Make Me So Very Happy' LP - Dodgy cover and title
but tight funky tunes all over. This LP has Ray Davies playing trumpet and
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Easy Tempo series, volume 7, Danger: Diabolik theme
Date: 08 Aug 1998 19:44:46 +0200


Br. Cleve" wrote:

>What a year from the Italians. The comps, the soundtracks, the Danger:
>Diabolik theme

    sorry if i missed something, but is this track on Easy Tempo 7?

        Johan


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) CD Database Programs
Date: 09 Aug 1998 13:36:14 EDT


Well I found the site but I have not attempted and installation yet.  Here is
the site:

http://www.bfmsoft.com/

This program connects you to some database(s) that have the information on
just about every CD out there (or so they claim).

Is anybody familiar with this program?

Also, have any AOL members out there upgraded to AOL 4.0?  What do you think?

Robert


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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Question List
Date: 09 Aug 1998 15:45:27 -0400


Hello-

I'm Elisabeth; I'm French and I live in New York. I've been on the list
for a couple of months.

1. Are you a musician? Explain...
I'm not a musician, but I often write about music for various magazines.

2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
I can't remember anything in particular, but I've always had a fondness
for soundtracks. Also growing up in France meant that "rock" was not the
dominant music/aesthetic. Still, even there I was often considered a
freak for my unabashed love of Jacques Demy movies (back when he was
still considered cheesy) and the likes of France Gall and Michel
Polnareff.

3. This list could help you more by...
It works nicely as it is. It's easy enough to ignore the stuff that
doesn't interest me, like endless discussions of how to clean things.

4. Other exotica/things you collect
I'm not a collector of anything in particular.

5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
Post-punk records (e.g. Rough Trade in 1979-1981), garage old and new
(looking forward to the Nuggets reissue on Rhino in September), vintage
disco, and classic Broadway shows (Rodgers & Hart, Gershwin, Porter,
Sondheim, etc.)

6. What are you just dying to tell us?
Because a scaffold collapsed at the new Conde Nast building here in NY, I
couldn't use my excellent tickets for the revival of Cabaret playing next
door. It's just so easy to hate Conde Nast.

7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
Tell us more!
I'd have to say CD for purely practical (storage, not having to flip them
every 25 minutes) reasons. I do miss LP art though.

8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
Any music movement that requires its fans to wear a certain type of
clothing is silly to me. (On the other hand I love it when bands dress up
for shows. Combustible Edison looked fabulous yesterday at the Bowery
Ballroom.)

9. Shaken or stirred?
Blended.

10. I clean my LPs with ...
non-static thingies, I forget what they're called.

11. My home page URL is:
Don't have one.

12. I have a licence to ...
Say anything I want for the next 4 years because France is soccer World
Champion until 2002.


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From: Kerry Byrnes <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Arthur Lyman's "Love for Sale"
Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:28:14 -0400


Perhaps not quite a thrift store find but came across a sealed copy in
PERFECT condition of Arthur Lyman's "Love for Sale" LP (First American
Records Piccadilly PIC 3543) from 1980 w/

1. Love Song from "Mutiny on the Bounty"
2. I Wish You Love
3. Love for Sale
4. Pagan Love Song
5. Love
6. Love Is A Many Splendored Thing
7. Love Dance
8. Secret Love
9. To You My Love
10. Sentimental Journey
11. When I Fall In Love
12. It's So Right To Love

$15 including 1st class postage insured w/in the U.S. ($25 airmail
registered outside the U.S.) to first offer.

Please confirm by private e-mail:  <[e-mail]>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Also Known As
Date: 09 Aug 1998 14:52:35 +0000


Now, this doesn't surprise me (otherwise I wouldn't have checked in the
first place): on independent budget labels, groups are often named
differently on different albums.

In the process of putting together hour 91 of The Mr. Smooth Show, "They
All Played El Choclo," I came across two occurances of this phenomena.  Let
the buyer beware!

The 101 Strings is also The Cinema Sound Stage Orchestra.  I discovered
this by playing El Choclo from "101 Strings Play Fire And Romance of South
America", Somerset SF 22200.  Because The Cinema Sound Stage Orchestra is
also on the Somerset label, I was suspicious and played its version of El
Choclo  simultaneously with the 101 Strings version.  The album "Award
Hits", Somerset SF 34200  is identical in all respects.

Did you also know that The Charles Camaron Orchestra is also The Mexicali
Brass?  I did the same thing comparing the Orchestra's recording "Spanish
Rhapsody", Custom CS 1084 with
the Brass's "Whipped Cream", Crown CST 471.

Now, how did I think to know to compare these two performances on two
different labels?  The fact that both labels have the same address was not
discovered until later.  No, I just looked at the covers and noted certain
stylist simularities.

I have often thought that these indie budget labels did a couple of hours
of recordings
sometime in the early 60's and kept reshuffling the cuts and changing the
name of the performers for new LP releases for the next decade!

Anyone found any more less obvious performer name changes?

By the way, because of this, I am short by 6 minutes (or so) in my
programming.  Anyone
with suggestions for recordings of El Choclo I might be able to find?  I
don't have as many as I would like already (otherwise I might have have
left out both of these performances).


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) more tv
Date: 09 Aug 1998 19:54:15 -0400


Tangential exotica on US tv this week (eastern daylight times)...

"Jazz On A Summer's Day" (1959) The time machine boards here. Documentary on
the 1958 Newport Jazz Festival. Performers include Thelonious Monk (too brief,
but he does have his bamboo-frame shades on), Dinah Washington, Gerry Mulligan,
Anita O'Day, Sonny Stitt, Louis Armstrong (driving teenagers into a
head-banging frenzy), many more. I forget the performers' names, but there's
also a snippet of a combo in an attic room doing a rather exotic piece
featuring a gong and such. Audience footage is great for people watching. Bravo
- Tuesday - 4:30pm.

"Reptilicus" (1961) The Danish monster-puppet movie that includes a leisurely
visit to the Tivoli amusement park (discussed here recently). AMC - Thursday -
6:30pm.

"The Killers" (1946) No exit film noir starring Burt Lancaster, Ava Gardner,
Edmond O'Brien, Albert Dekker. Score by Miklos Rozsa. AMC - late Friday/early
Saturday - 2:00am.

"The Avengers: The Journey Back" (new) A documentary about the original TV
series. It might be 2 hours long. I have no idea if it'll be any good. Patrick
Macnee hosts or narrates. Obviously synced to the new movie. Has anyone seen
that yet? A&E - Saturday - 9:00pm.

"Criss Cross" (1949) Burt Lancaster gets used and abused in another bleak film
noir; with Yvonne De Carlo and Dan Duryea. Has some nice location footage of (I
guess) LA. Also a couple of cool Latin-jazz tunes in the nightclub scenes. Esy
Morales is the name that sticks in my head as the performer, but that may be
wrong. Body of the score by Miklos Rozsa. AMC - late Sunday/early Monday (Aug.
16/17) - 3:15am.

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From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Also Known As
Date: 09 Aug 1998 17:40:21 -0700



>  Anyone
> with suggestions for recordings of El Choclo I might be able to find?  I
> don't have as many as I would like already (otherwise I might have have
> left out both of these performances).

Earl Bostic's dance-themed recordings include both "El Choclo Bossa Nova"
and (I think) "El Choclo Cha Cha."

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From: Mark Benton Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 07 Aug 1998 23:47:01 -0400




Nat Kone wrote:

> At 09:49 AM 07/08/98 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> >>>Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER.
>
> I've got a friend who has all of his ten thousand or so albums in
> alphabetical order regardless of genre.  I found that especially strange
> but apparently there are others like that.

My 600 or so albums are in alphabetical order by record label.  I tried doing it
alphabetically by artist, but I had so many soundtracks and compilations I got
confused....Yeah, I know I'm weird...or am I exotic???

Mark Reed
Phenix City AL
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Subject:  Re: (exotica) Re: Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise
Date: 09 Aug 1998 13:25:16 EDT


>>>>Recently re-released 20-bit remastered.  It looks like Reprise is slowly
doing this with Frank's catalogue.<<<<


Reprise remastered all of the Frank catalogue in 20-bit back in 1995...and was
released in the 20 cd box set. I have this 20 cd set, and must say the
remastering sounds like Frank is in my room--along with Billy May! It's
wonderful!

Jayson


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Easy Tempo series, volume 7, Danger: Diabolik
Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:55:15 -0400


At 7:44 PM +0200 8/8/98, Johan Dada Vis wrote:
>Br. Cleve" wrote:
>
>>What a year from the Italians. The comps, the soundtracks, the Danger:
>>Diabolik theme
>
>    sorry if i missed something, but is this track on Easy Tempo 7?

No, it's on the Irma release "Arriva La Bomba" [Douce 811]. The song is
called "Deep Down", performed by Christy.

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database]
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:02:37 +0100


> From: Mark Benton Reed <[e-mail]>
>
> My 600 or so albums are in alphabetical order by record label.  I
> tried doing it alphabetically by artist, but I had so many
> soundtracks and compilations I got confused....Yeah, I know I'm
> weird...or am I exotic???

I do exactly the same, although I classify soundtracks, jazz,
spoken/comedy and compilations into genres. The rest is ordered by
label. Sometimes this is a problem if the artist appears on multiple
labels, but it's really handy for locating those records where you
know the look of the cover, but can't actually remember the name of
the artist. Plus you get to group together records with similar
spines, which obviously makes me very happy. And, of course, there's a
separate category for records on labels I only have one or two
examples of. And another category of miscellaneous exceptions.

Maybe we're just both weird.

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Subject: (exotica) Collection Database, Question List, A Funny Thought For The Day
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:13:42 +0100


But what did you get at the weekend? LPs? CDs? Good? Bad? Funky? Mushy?
Cheap? Expensive? Lost gem? Pile of horse manure? At the charity shop? At
the record fair? In good condition? Or knackered? Who's playing? Who's
singing? What does it compare to? Why did you buy it? Why are we going to
want to hear about it?

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) As You Remember Them
Date: 10 Aug 1998 05:02:27 PDT


I found a booklet, put out by Time-Life in 1972 entitled: As You
Remember Them: The Men and Their Music. It is a history of 60's pop
music:interviews with Dmitri Tiomkin, Les Baxter, Martin Denny, Lalo
Schifrin, Mancini, Bacharach, etc.; discusses instruments used by pop
recorders, electronic, exotic and conventional and describes the
recording process from the studio to the factories where the lps are
pressed. Lots of photos, too, including one of a fat, quasi-bald Baxter
(with what's of his do hanging over his collar in the back - 20 years
before Billy Rae Cyrus established the unbecoming "BRC"). The writer
describes Baxter as a "short pudgey man." Imagine my shock: no wonder
the woman was seated on the Around the World With album. On which Baxter
appears neither short nor fat nor bald. Hm. The booklet probably came in
a boxed lp collection which I did not find.

Also, in one of the interviews, Mancini speaks of having worked with the
Moog synthesizer. Is anyone aware of a HM recording that features it?

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From: Peter Ledebur <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Date: 10 Aug 1998 10:26:20 -0400


"Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]> writes:

>p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College
>(Boston, MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection
>(around 40 years worth of records) into a dumpster, as part of their
>effort to 'modernize' their radio station [WERS-FM, the studio of
>which is being rebuilt].
>#!^$@*&!!!!!!!!!!

I passed this information along to the WZBC (also Boston) mailing list and got this response from one of our tech guys:

>Actually, As someone who's been working on the new Emerson
>studios, I don't think they're throwing the vinyl out.   They're saving
>stuff they actually use and are putting the rest of it in storage.   A
>lot of stuff has been loaded into their digital storage system (no
>skipping!)


Peter
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica FAQ version 1.2
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:08:14 -0400


Hey all--

I think I've managed to incorporate all the suggstions sent to me so far
into this latest version of the FAQ. . . while trying to prevent it from
ballooning totally out of control of course.

Anyway, take a good look (most of the changes are small), and get back to
me with any more suggestions. I think this might be the last time I will
post the ENTIRE thing, so I won't drive you all crazy with this. . . Next,
I'll be looking for a good home for this thing (hint hint). . .

Thanks for all the help,

--Ross



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Q: What is "Exotica"?

A: A musical genre, named for the 1957 Martin Denny album of the same
title. Most narrowly defined, it refers to lounge jazz augmented with
polynesian, asian and latin instruments and "tropical" themes. The exotica
style was pioneered by composer Les Baxter, and popularized by such artists
as Denny, Arthur Lyman, and Gene Rains.

In the context of this mailing list, it is used as a term of convenience to
cover many genres of 50s, 60s, and early 70s music--most might fall under
the general umbrella of "space age pop instrumentals." These include
percussion, Cha-cha, soundtracks, "Now Sound," Bossa Nova, Moog, and a
thousand other subcategories according to the taste of each individual.
(I use "exotica" in the remainder of this FAQ to cover all these
possibilities.)



Q: Is it correct to call this music "lounge"?

A: Well, as a description of the *music* (as opposed to "the scene") there
are some objections to the word--but you might as well get used to it: It's
the term most used by the outside world to refer to exotica (e.g. in
labelling bins in the music store).

However "lounge" might be interpreted as including some legitimate jazz,
torch singers, etc.--all of which are a little more mainstream than the
interests of list members. Also, the connotation of subdued, low-energy
music clearly doesn't apply to the more dynamic sound of a performer like
Esquivel.



Q: Well, what is the correct term?

A: There is no answer to this, although people have variously suggested
Space Age Bachelor-Pad; Easy; Cocktail; Hi-Fi; Space Age Pop; Cheesy
Listening; Dynamica; etc.



Q: If someone were just beginning to hunt for exotica records, what would
be a few good things to look out for?

A: Though such a list is bound to be incomplete and disputable, here are
some suggestions:

  * Ur-exotica LPs from Les Baxter, Martin Denny, Arthur Lyman, etc.

  * Juan Garcia Esquivel LPs (rare today)

  * Glossy albums (often gatefold) on "Hi-Fi" labels like Command,
    Phase Four, Mercury "Perfect Presence," Time, UA "Wall-to-Wall Sound"
    Audio Fidelity, Directional Sound, etc.

  * Albums with "Percussion" in the title (also "Ping Pong," "Drums")

  * Pop interpretations of Cha-Cha, Mambo, Bossa Nova and Samba

  * RCA's "Stereo Action" Series (thick, white, die-cut covers)

  * Early Ferrante and Teicher (with prepared piano)

  * The Three Suns, especially from 1959-62

  * Electric organ virtuosos (Lenny Dee, Dick Hyman, etc.)

  * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord, sitar, harp or bagpipes

  * Inappropriate rock cover versions ("Light My Fire" on pipe organ, etc.)

  * Hawaiian music as performed by non-Hawaiians

  * "Programmatic" jazz (Raymond Scott; Spy and Crime soundtracks, etc.)

  * Albums showcasing Moog synthesizer

  * "Now Sound" albums (Brass Ring, "Living" Guitars/etc.)

  *  Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass, and their imitators

  * Albums with "discotheque" or "au go-go" in the title

Caveat Emptor: In each of these categories there will be many copy-cat
records from budget labels. Their quality is usually dubious (though in a
few cases they can be delightfully bizarre).



Q: Many people still regard this music as "obviously awful." Do exotica
fans REALLY enjoy this music or is it all some ironic put-on?

A: Fans of exotica are well aware that these genres have been reviled as
"easy listening" or "plastic" by the rock generation; for some collectors,
a perverse kitsch appeal was the starting point. However most would say
that the more time you spend with this music, the more your appreciation
grows for its energy, inventiveness, and musicianship, and for the
creativity of the arrangements--despite the somewhat misguided concepts
that may have been explored.

Also, the original intent to create "commercial" music for a particular
market can no longer be regarded as something sinister--by now it must be
seen as a fascinating anthropological window into the spirit of an earlier
time.



Q: Are there some good books & magazines on the subject of Exotica?

A: The books mentioned most often on the exotica list are volumes 1 & 2 of
_Incredibly Strange Music_, by V. Vale and Andrea Juno (RE/search), and
_Elevator Music_, by Joseph Lanza (Picador).

The "Vik's Lounge" website has an excellent exotica reading list, with
cover photos and capsule summaries, at:

http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/reading.html

General works about music with some exotica content:

  Conductors and Composers of Popular Orchestral Music,
     Reuben and Naomi Musiker (Greenwood)
  The Penguin Encyclopedia of Popular Music, Donald Clarke, ed. (Viking)
  Top Pop Albums 1955-1996, Joel Whitburn (Record Research)
  The Record Label Guide for Domestic LPs, Joe Lindsay (Biodisc)
  TV's Biggest Hits, Jon Burlingame (Schirmer)
  Goldmine's Celebrity Vocals, Ron Lofman (Krause)
  Goldmine's Comedy Record Price Guide, Ronald L. Smith (Krause)
  ASCAP Biographical Dictionary (Bowker)
  Hawaiian Music and Musicians: An Illustrated History,
     George Kanahele, ed. (University Press of Hawaii)
  The Exotic in Western Music, Jonathan Bellman, ed. (Northeastern)
  The Recording Angel: Explorations in Phonography, Evan Eisenberg
     (McGraw-Hill)
  Bootleg: The Secret History of the Other Recording Industry,
     Clinton Heylin (?)
  Schwann Long Playing Record Catalog (annual, back issues from
     relevant years)

LP Cover collections:

  Album Covers From The Vinyl Junkyard (Booth-Clibborn Editions)
  The Album Cover Art of Soundtracks, Frank Jastfelder &
     Stefan Kassel (Little,Brown)

On electronic music:

  Electronic and Computer Music, Peter Manning (Oxford)
  Vintage Synthesizers, Mark Vail (GPI/Miller Freeman)
  A Guide to Electronic Music, Paul Griffiths (Thames & Hudson)
  Electronic and Experimental Music, Thomas Holmes (Scribners)
  The International Electronic Music Catalog, Hugh Davies (MIT Press)
  Electric Sound: The Past and Promise of Electronic Music,
     Joel Chadabe (Prentice Hall)

Music "scenes" and generational identity:

  Subculture: The Meaning of Style, Dick Hebdige (Routledge; Methuen)
  13th Gen, Neil Howe and Bill Strauss (Vintage-Random House)
  Club Cultures, Sarah Thornton (Wesleyan UP/UP of New England)

On retro style:

  Hi-fi's & Hi-balls: The Golden Age of the American Bachelor,
     Steven Guarnaccia and Bob Sloan (Chronicle)
  Populuxe, Thomas Hine (Knopf)
  Contemporary, Lesley Jackson (Phaidon)

Cocktail Culture:

  The Cocktail: The Influence of Spirits on the American Psyche,
     Joseph Lanza (St. Martin's)
  Beachbum Berry's Grog Log, Jeff Berry & Annene Kaye
     (SLG Publishing)


Exotica-related zines (some may no longer be active):

  Cannot Become Obsolete
  Cool & Strange Music!
  Exotica/Etc.
  Thrift Score
  Tiki News
  Easy Listener
  Mystery Date
  Organs and Bongos



Q: Are there any good websites covering Exotica and Lounge?

A: Yes!

Hands down, the best one-stop information site about exotica performers and
composers is Brad Bigelow's "Space Age Pop Standards":

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/index.htm

A master jumping-off point for dozens of other lounge-related sites can be
found via King Kini's "Club Velvet," at:

http://www.tamboo.com/loungelinks.html

Johan Dada Vis' "Linquarium" at:

http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/

and via Vik's Lounge, at:

http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/viklink.html



Q: Is it bad or good when your previously-obscure little hobby becomes a
genuine, media-approved "scene"?

A: Well, you may be annoyed when a bunch of shallow people start crashing
your party, knowing next to nothing about the music and just wanting to be
part of a fad. But their numbers do tend to get the attention of record
company executives--with the happy result that some impossible-to-find
material (like Esquivel LPs) gets re-released on CD.

As of 1998 we are experiencing the flip side of this trend, as the media
stampede is now headed towards "swing" (another media label which blurs
together several genres). While there are points of overlap with exotica,
this has generally been interpreted as the waning of "Lounge." The downside
has been an abrupt dropoff in exotica re-releases. But there's some
speculation that finding vintage exotica on vinyl may be getting
(infinitesimally) easier, as some collectors move on to other genres.



Q: Are the Capitol "Ultra Lounge" CDs any good?

A: The series is entertainingly packaged and aggressively promoted, and
generally helped improve the visibility of "Lounge." However the repertoire
came entirely from the vaults of Capitol (and its affiliates), so some of
the real titans of exotica were left out (e.g. Esquivel, Enoch Light); and
some of what got included was fairly generic. Nonetheless, a few of the CDs
(e.g. "Bachelor Pad Royale") are considered essential.

Some have objected to the way the UL series became the 800-Pound Gorilla of
Lounge, sucking up all the consumer dollars which might otherwise have
supported re-releases of classic individual exotica LPs.



Q: Is it possible to find good records in thrift stores, or are those LPs
all just destroyed Barbara Streisand albums? (Corollary: Is it worth paying
"dealer prices" for LPs I want, or am I getting ripped off?)

A: Two different exotica fans, both behaving with complete economic
rationality, can arrive at very different answers to this one.

Thrifting makes sense for people with free time, moderate incomes, who
might go thrifting anyway for other reasons, and who live in areas with
good thrifting demographics. This might mean rural or shrinking industrial
areas where young hipsters tend to move away, but where a stable, older
middle class still lives.

Busy professionals who live in trendier urban areas will probably find
thrifting a waste of time. For them, the service provided by dealers in
locating and culling LPs is generally worth the premium charged.

One misconception is that the condition of thrift store records is
uniformly bad; in fact the condition is extremely variable, ranging from
unplayable to near mint. And at prices of $1 per LP or lower, it becomes
possible to take chances on unknown albums or to accept disks in poorer
condition, just to learn more about different artists.



Q: What is the best way to clean really dirty old records?

A: The purist, or someone with many records to deal with, should
investigate the various wet/vacuum record cleaners from Nitty Gritty, VPI,
or The Audio Advisor. Although the cost of these machines seems high, users
are uniformly positive about them.

A description of "archivally correct" record cleaning can be found at:

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byauth/st-laurent/care.html

However, people on a budget or with more casual needs usually do fine
washing records in the kitchen sink with dish soap and a clean sponge. Tap
water in many areas can leave behind a "crunchy" mineral residue when it
evaporates, so give a final rinse in distilled water--or at least be
vigilant in shaking and blotting away any water droplets clinging to the
disk.



Q: Is it wrong to buy bootlegs?

A: Virtually all agree they would prefer to see a legitimate release, where
the original artists receive credit and royalties if possible. In some
cases the existence of bootlegs can undermine the market for such
legitimate releases. However some feel there is a gray area, where
rights-holders have thrown up impossible obstacles to a legitimate release,
or where the intent is mainly to make hard-to-find music available, rather
than as a mercenary venture.

Whatever your ethical views are, the rapid spread of digital reproduction
technology is certain to make the issue even more confused in coming years.

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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Collection Database
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:05:21 -0400


> I know a couple of people who not only keep the records in alphabetical
> order but within each individual artist's collection, the records are in
> order of release.  Makes sense I guess.
>
>
>
    Yep, that's me.  Strictly alphabetical, then chronological.

    surfing the chaos,
    Charlieman


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:07:17 -0500


At 03:45 PM 8/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Hello-
>
>I'm Elisabeth; I'm French and I live in New York. I've been on the list
>for a couple of months.

>3. This list could help you more by...
>It works nicely as it is. It's easy enough to ignore the stuff that
>doesn't interest me, like endless discussions of how to clean things.

Darn, and I was gonna ask if it's easier to clean Lps in a bidet than in the
kitchen sink.


Welcome to NY and to the E-list, Elisabeth!

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) As You Remember Them
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:17:02 -0400


At 5:02 AM -0700 8/10/98, Ben Waugh wrote:

>Also, in one of the interviews, Mancini speaks of having worked with the
>Moog synthesizer. Is anyone aware of a HM recording that features it?

His "Mystery Movie Theme" on the '72 album "Big Screen, Little Screen" was,
I believe, the first appearance of a synth on a Mancini record, although I
always thought that was an ARP.

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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) As You Remember Them
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:18:21 EDT


Also Henry Mancini uses a clavinte-sounding instrument that could be a synth
(?) in the soundtrack to "10" in the song with the female chorus chant "Get it
on Get it on Get it on Baby"


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From: "Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [Fwd: tv-tip]
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:40:39 +0200


Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Hallo luitjes,

Maandagavond, Nederland 3, 19:20u
Documentaire over "Muziek & James Bond", over de rol van muziek in de
James Bond-films. Veel John Barry neem ik aan.

Marco K.



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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Nice weekend story
Date: 11 Aug 1998 11:26:05 -0400


On the subway, I was whistling the tune of 'Stardust', and a guy came up
to me and said 'Do you know what you were singing then? - My father wrote
that'.
'Really,' I said, '- Is your father Hoagy Carmichael?'.
'Well, er, my father's father-in-law was,' he said hastily.
He started singing it to me very enthusiastically, telling me about his
78 of the original hit version, which was apparently sung by a vocal
group.
I then dazzled him with my rendition of 'Laura' before walking on.

regards

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Incredibly Strange Katie Lee
Date: 10 Aug 1998 12:40:38 -0400


Just found: _Life Is Just a Bed of Neuroses_ by Katie Lee (RCA). This one's
a followup to that _Songs of Couch and Consulatation_ featured in
_Incredibly Strange Music_.

I have to say that _Couch_ hadn't done a lot for me--Bob Thompson did
basically pretty straight versions of various musical genres, and Katie
relied too much on the topical value of throwing around Freudian terms for
laughs.

 But _Neuroses_ really is pretty fun, in a kind of Mad Magazine way. . .
first of all, exoticat Ray Martin did all the music, which is is quite
witty and energetic. And these songs are just a lot funnier, particularly
the EXTREMELY twisted "Love That Man"--where "that man" turns out to be her
psychiatrist, having chopped up her husband.

I giggle,

 --Ross

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Nice weekend story
Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:05:16 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-10 11:56:22 EDT, you write:

<< He started singing it to me very enthusiastically, telling me about his
 78 of the original hit version, which was apparently sung by a vocal
 group.
 I then dazzled him with my rendition of 'Laura' before walking on.
  >>

i can just imagine the fellow passangers look -- almost if they were
mooned!!!!

i love it.

robert


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Serge Gainsbourg: Le Chanson de Slogan
Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:38:02 +0200


"Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Anyone can pinpoint me to  the original version of "Le Chanson de Slogan"?

    *LA* Chanson de Slogan, Arjan ;-) is on vol 5 of the philips series:
    "je t'aime... moi non plus, vol. 5: 1969 - 1970 - 1971"

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From: "Jeff Chenault" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Random records
Date: 10 Aug 1998 15:42:58 -0400


Here is the Eric Random records that I know about.  The one David spoke of
is "That's What I Like About Me", New Hormones, ORG6
I believe this was his first.  "Boy, I would like to get ahold of the whole
Lyceum show"

Also on the New Hormones label was his masterpiece "Earthbound Ghost Need"
ORG18.  Released in 1982 it included Stephen Mallinder on bass and Richard H
Kirk on cool horn.

New Hormones ORG 11 was a single by Eric Random called "Dow Chemical
Company" with "Skin Deep" on the flip side which was recorded at Western
Works.

Then on the Doublevision label we have "Time-Splice" DVR 11 album recorded
in 1982 and the "Mad as Mankind" 12' single DVR 7 which was recorded at
Western Works in 1984.  This 12' was also Engineered & Produced by Kirk &
Mallinder.   I do have a copy of this Danny.  Write me and we'll work out a
trade.

Simon if you out there I would like a copy of that "Ishmael" mini-LP that
you have.  That's the only thing I don't have that I know about.

See Ya' later Bedlamites!!!,
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From: "Jeff Chenault" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ooops! Wrong Newsgroup!!
Date: 10 Aug 1998 15:49:04 -0400


Hey sorry about the Eric Random info.  I accidently sent it to the wrong
Newsgroup.  Pretend you never saw it unless early Cabaret Voltaire interests
you.

Jeff





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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Funk)
Subject: (exotica) Enoch Light CDs acquired.
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:57:12 -1000


Finally bought these two legendary (?) albums on CD, the Varese Vintage label:

        "Provocative Percussion"
        "Persuasive Percussion"

Each features 5 bonus tracks from the "Vol 2" companions to those albums.

This was my first time hearing these, and I went into this with no prior
exposure to or opinions about "Enoch Light".

My first impression was to be amazed at the clarity of the sound, which
makes all the techno-babble in the liner notes almost seem justified.

The arrangements themselves were less of a revelation, though certainly
capable and perfectly performed.  Personally, I think these albums will be
best enjoyed one or two tracks at a time, rather than all the way through,
which becomes a little monotonous. I kept thinking that this was sort of
"Esquivel-lite", similar in concept, but lacking in Juan's imaginative
genius.

Mr. Funk sez:

        For testing the sonic responsiveness of your Hi-Fi: 10/10
        Cover art and liner notes: 9/10
        For compilation tapes and shuffle play: 8/10
        For concentrated listening: 6/10



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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Funk)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch Light CDs acquired.
Date: 10 Aug 1998 12:04:56 -1000


>Finally bought these two legendary (?) albums on CD, the Varese Vintage label:
>
>        "Provocative Percussion"
>        "Persuasive Percussion"

Forgot to mention that when the clerk scanned the barcodes on these CDs,
they didn't come up in the computer, so she had to manually enter the
catalog number, prices, and so forth.

I said, "These CDs aren't in your system?"

She said, "Yeah, but they've been sitting here for a LONG time, that's
probably why."

I took that as an extremely positive sign, and it added a pleasantly
"exotic" tinge to the purchase.

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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter discography
Date: 10 Aug 1998 14:48:15


With help from a reader from the Library of Congress, I have collected a
relatively comprehensive discography for Les Baxter, available at the Space
Age Pop Standards website:

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/baxter.htm

Happy reading/listening.

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Laila Amezian
Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:35:28 -0700 (PDT)


I've been trying to catch up on listening to all these great exotica
cd's released and I have to recommend highly Laila Amezian's cd
"Initial" on Siesta (1997).
If you like vocals and a simply wonderful voice singing modern  Bossa
Nova then this is simply the best new Bossa Nova cd I've heard. Every
song (but the last) is excellent and all were written by Philippe
Auclair, the album was produced by Louis Phillippe.
I got the cd from Roundabout Records, PO Box 76302  Washinton dc
20013-6302 Its also available from Siesta online.

While I'm onto Brazil let me also recommend th compilation Bossa Nova
Sua Historia, Sua Gente Philips/PolyGram Brazil (1975) which is now
carried by http://www.dustygroove.com  This is a tremendous 2 cd
ompilation of some of the greatest Bossa Nova songs ever made.

Finally www.dustygroove.com also carries Rita Lee's cd  "Build up"
again on Phillips/Polygram Brazil 1975.
Rita branches off from Los Mutantes on this marvelous colllection of a
very sensuous singer.  The songs are generally written by her and
other mutantes except for And I Love Her.  Great cd, great price & I
only wish it was longer.

Easy Bossa Nova listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck

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From: "Jeff Chenault" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Enoch Light Party!
Date: 10 Aug 1998 20:56:47 -0400


Hey, in case anyone happens to be in Columbus, Ohio on Saturday August 15th
me and my cohorts will be hosting one of Enoch Light's Birthday Bashes.
More information can be found below.............

    Hold onto your FEZ! Here comes...
THE ENOCH LIGHT MEMORIAL COUNTERESPIONAGE GO-GO HAPPENING
           ...featuring...
THE WEIRD LOVE MAKERS!
    Enoch Light, in case you were wondering, is actually quite the big name
in lounge: with his name on nearly as many things as Esquivel and Les
Baxter, he guided the Command record label through a maelstrom of
percussive thrift store standards, all with distinctively stark covers with
black or white geometric shapes. Riding the dueling fads of stereo and
percussion, Enoch Light firmly laid the groundwork for space-age bachelor
pad musicians to come.
    So why the memorial party? The reasons are twofold: First, his birthday
(August 18th) is fast approaching, and second, he was a local boy: born and
raised in Canton, Ohio. This is actually the third year this memorial event
has happened, but itÆs the first time Columbus has taken part in this
international celebration (yes, even Glasgow has a thing for our man Enoch).
    As if Enoch Light being of local decent werenÆt enough, The Weird Love
Makers has strong ties to the Enoch camp, having sampled his work
extensively to create that "audio-erotica" mix of updated lounge-swing,
saturated in adult and adulterated media. Along with the live performance,
various DJs will coax the atmosphere from cafΘ to lounge; as close to
cocktail culture as a beer-only establishment can get...
WHAT: The Enoch Light Memorial Counterespionage Go-Go Happening
(with live music by The Weird Love Makers and DJing)
WHEN: Saturday, August 15th, 9pm - 1am+
WHERE: Victorians' Midnight Cafe, 251 West Fifth Avenue (near Neil)
HOW MUCH: Only $1! One measly dollar!
Important Notice For Up & Coming Alcoholics: Victorians now has BEER.
Woohoo!

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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 10 Aug 1998 21:49:33 -0400


>Darn, and I was gonna ask if it's easier to clean Lps in a bidet than in the
>kitchen sink.
Darn, my deep dark secret revealed to the entire list!

Elisabeth


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Subject: (exotica) Mystery group- Free Design (?)
Date: 10 Aug 1998 21:48:50 EDT


My room-mate just recently lent me a CD of an early 70's group (I believe
they're Scandinavian) who have that Carpenters/Cowsills sound mixed with
offbeat elements such as a song about a friend's Ouija board. The artwork on
the CD is rather confusing so the name "Free Design" could be either the band
or the album's name.  Other possible candidates (from the cover) for band name
are Bubbles and Siesta68. Does this prompt any fond memories from listers?
Crazy stuff...

Jon


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Subject: (exotica) Re: Les Baxter discography
Date: 10 Aug 1998 21:02:09 -0500 (CDT)


>With help from a reader from the Library of Congress, I have collected a
>relatively comprehensive discography for Les Baxter, available at the Space
>Age Pop Standards website


of course, this information was ALWAYS available at the Club Velvet
website: http://www.tamboo.com/baxter.html  <wink>

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) more tv
Date: 10 Aug 1998 22:57:09 -0600


m.ace wrote:
>"Criss Cross" (1949) Burt Lancaster gets used and abused in another bleak film
>noir; with Yvonne De Carlo and Dan Duryea. Has some nice location footage of (I
>guess) LA. Also a couple of cool Latin-jazz tunes in the nightclub scenes. Esy
>Morales is the name that sticks in my head as the performer, but that may be
>wrong.

It IS Morales. Those nightclub scenes are fabulous and the film is like
heroin for noir fans.

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge radio
Date: 10 Aug 1998 22:57:27 -0600


Otto asked for the particulars on the KOOP Lounge show for the Tiki News
website.

Here you go:
Austin, Texas
The Lounge Show Saturday mornings 10:00 a.m. to noon on KOOP, 91.7 fm. Host
Jay Robillard blends a cooling mix of lounge, exotica, space age pop,
comedy, Latin, Brazilian, crime jazz, & Rat Pack sound, mostly from the
late 50s to the early 70s. Many themed shows (i.e., roots lounge from the
30s, country-fried lounge, all-Beatles covers) and frequent guest djs. No
netcasts, no station website, and the signal gets hinky in the hillier
parts of town.

KOOP is a struggling community station with all volunteer hosts and only
one or two paid staffers. It even shares the frequency with the UTexas
student station KVRX -- this is homegrown radio. KOOP air 9 a.m. to 7
p.m.weekdays and 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. weekends.  KVRX,  all other times.

KOOP NEEDS MUSIC! Will post a message tomorrow with an address where
musicians and record co. people can mail CDs, vinyl, and tapes. KOOP's
programming is eclectic enough that almost any music or spoken word stuff
will get broadcast time. Several hosts play exotica/lounge variants, but I
haven't listened diligently enough to the show schedule down yet. Will pass
info to you as I figure it out -- for instance, I heard some Sammy Davis
Jr. crooning during a GREAT crime jazz show last week that almost got me
into a carwreck.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) [Fwd: tv-tip]
Date: 10 Aug 1998 20:26:11 +0000


At 11:40 AM 8/10/98 +0200, Marco wrote:
>Maandagavond, Nederland 3, 19:20u
>Documentaire over "Muziek & James Bond", over de rol van muziek in de
>James Bond-films.

Drats.  Don't get Nederland 3.  I have always felt that the role of music
in James Bond films was of extra importance, which is why I am not too
happy about the absense of John Barry's contributions in recent films.

Byron

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Subject: (exotica) bongos go to college
Date: 10 Aug 1998 22:27:55 +0000


Found an interesting record today called "But You've Never Heard Gershwin
With Bongos."  Its on Warner Brothers 1360.  Neat cover(reminiscent of
Carolyn Jones performance in the apartment above Frank Sinatra's in "Hole
in the Head"): a scantilly clad woman sitting on a window sill playing the
bongos.  The music is big band combined with major bongo work and some
interesting arrangements. There are three bongoists, but none are named.
Don Ralke is the arranger-conductor.

Also, I like the album notes which describe the typical bongo addict: "He
lifts his double-barrelled percussion piece at the drop of a vamp.  His
eyes moisten at the mention of a party, any kind of party.  He spends long
hours improvising paradiddles.  A study in determination, he takes his
craft seriously, flexes his fingers in off moments, oils his heads till
they glimmer, and forsakes all others to spend evenings stretching his
bongo skins to the ripping point...."

Some of the performances are a bit too low key for me, but some are quite
exciting...all, however, seem appropriate given the composition
("Summertime" is really not supposed to be exciting).


Today also discovered a radio station compilation LP (with the locked grooves
at the end of each cut): "New Exciting Wonderful Stars...from Columbia."
Most of the music was not particularly interesting.  I had hoped that
Pancho Purcell and his Bambuco Players would do something cool, but did
not.  Los Vegas unfortunately sounded like a basic American vocal quintet
but with Mexican accent.  I did like the Johnny Duport organ bit, but I was
quite impressed with the guitar work of George Benson in his own
composition "Bullfight."  Various celebrities introduce the performances.
I got the biggest kick out of Jerry Vale's intro of music by Caravelli (not
exotic music at least to me). Vale said the music was on the Italian label
of "co-lum-BEE-ah." :)

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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:16:35 +0200


Johan Dada Vis wrote:
>
> >Anyone can pinpoint me to  the original version of "Le Chanson de Slogan"?
>
>         *LA* Chanson de Slogan, Arjan ;-) is on vol 5 of the philips series:
>         "je t'aime... moi non plus, vol. 5: 1969 - 1970 - 1971"


I can add that this series of 9 cd's is very good value for your money.
Gainsbourg's (almost) complete works in chronological order. And those 9
cd's willl cost you less than ONE original Gainsbourg 10"-lp from the
fifties! (I once held one in my hands that cost 400 Dutch Guilders -
about $200...)
By the way: it seems that at last some original French albums are being
reissued on cd in their original covers (digi-pack - or what do you call
these things?). I recently bought "1968" by France Gall. Very hip
indeed!

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery group- Free Design (?)
Date: 11 Aug 1998 03:40:24 -0600


Jon,


>My room-mate just recently lent me a CD of an early 70's group (I believe
>they're Scandinavian) who have that Carpenters/Cowsills sound mixed with
>offbeat elements such as a song about a friend's Ouija board. The artwork on
>the CD is rather confusing so the name "Free Design" could be either the band
>or the album's name.  Other possible candidates (from the cover) for band name
>are Bubbles and Siesta68. Does this prompt any fond memories from listers?
>Crazy stuff...

This is no mystery. It is the Free Design. They aren't Scandinavian. They
are actually Canadian, I think...or American.  You have the Spanish Siesta
label release of the compilation "Bubbles". There are lots of people on the
list who are rather into this fetching, and yes, crazy band. Check the Enoch
Light website (no, I don't have the address handy, but a word search or
request on this list should make it appear) for more detailed info on the band.

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Subject: (exotica) As the Crow Flys (or is it Dies???)
Date: 11 Aug 1998 07:46:24 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-11 00:20:53 EDT, Byron writes:

<< I have always felt that the role of music
 in James Bond films was of extra importance, which is why I am not too
 happy about the absense of John Barry's contributions in recent films.
  >>

I rented Tomorrow Never Dies this past weekend -- bletch!!! that Sheryl Crow
sound track absolutely sucks.  I can't think of any other description


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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Les Baxter discography
Date: 11 Aug 1998 13:53:15 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >With help from a reader from the Library of Congress, I have collected a
> >relatively comprehensive discography for Les Baxter, available at the Space
> >Age Pop Standards website
>
> of course, this information was ALWAYS available at the Club Velvet
> website: http://www.tamboo.com/baxter.html  <wink>
>
>  - kk


My site Record Collector's Heaven includes another Baxter-discography.
It includes quite a few releases not mentioned in the above discogs,
mostly ep's and singles

take a look at http://members.xoom.com/Kallie/index.html

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg - Casino de Paris
Date: 11 Aug 1998 13:19:04 +0100


I've been offered a late 1960s Serge Gainsbourg soundtrack LP thing called
Casino de Paris, Nouvelle revue de Roland Petit ZIZI JE T'AIME - Zizi
Jeanmaire (chansons de Serge Gainsbourg).

With 10 Gainsbourg tracks - all written (except one) and sung by him.

The track listing is.........

Zizi t'as pas d'sosie
A poil ou a plumes
Le rent dedans
Tout le monde est musicien
Elisa
Les Millionaires
Les Bleus
Just a Gigolo
King Kong
Finale


Anybody have any knowledge of this one? Recommendations?
Thanks





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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tom Dissevelt's Fantasy in Orbit
Date: 11 Aug 1998 13:21:32 +0100


Can anybody tell me more about this LP? Is it a standout? Any comparisons?
Opinions?


Thanks again,







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Subject: (exotica) Tom Dissevelt's Fantasy in Orbit
Date: 11 Aug 1998 08:54:30 -0400



Can anybody tell me more about this LP? Is it a standout? Any comparisons?
Opinions?

I posted out about this when I got a slew of albums from a fellow who's
father worked at a radio station.  This is what I wrote:

Fantasy in Orbit - Thomas Dissevelt (Philips (yay!) PHS 600-189) (1965)
Cover is a lovely scientific impossibilty. We are looking at Saturn an
Earth-like planet and the Sun, in eclipse. On the ground, hope against
hope, are mushrooms, which is odd, since everyone knows that the stork
brings mushrooms!
The album is subtitled "An Astronaut's Imperssons While Orbiting the Earth"
Dissivelt was board in Leyden, Holland on March 4, 1921 according to the
liners, "...European education and experience well qualifies him for his
particular probing." Maybe he was abducted by aliens, too.
This is incredible, abstract stuff. Very forward-looking electronic music
for 1965 and quite challenging. I can only imagine the time it must have
taken to have recorded this with the technology available. Not a
soundtrack for a movie, but an aural adventure, with descriptions of each
track, so you may take the voyage along with the astronaut on the record.
No amount of liner notes can explain how "Waltzing Matilda" got on this
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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 11 Aug 1998 06:06:22 -0700 (PDT)


> I recently bought "1968" by France Gall. Very hip
>indeed!
>

Does it have any Gainsbourg songs on it?

ciao,
tosh

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 11 Aug 1998 07:50:34 -0600


At 06:06 11/08/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>> I recently bought "1968" by France Gall. Very hip
>>indeed!
>>
>
>Does it have any Gainsbourg songs on it?

Yeah, it has a couple. This and "Baby Pop" have been re-released. I think I
actually prefer "Baby Pop" slightly more, but both are truly fantastic stuff
if you like Ms. Gall. I also picked up a compilation CD "Poupee De Son"
which has a few more wonderful tracks on it, even though a third of it are
on the aforementioned LPs. Great stuff. And not just the Gainsbourg trax.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Re: Les Baxter discography
Date: 11 Aug 1998 08:54:25 -0500 (CDT)


>My site Record Collector's Heaven includes another Baxter-discography.
>It includes quite a few releases not mentioned in the above discogs,
>mostly ep's and singles


yeah, huh.  too bad you lifted all the images right off my site.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bobby McBay, Sylvia Field Truex obits
Date: 11 Aug 1998 09:58:11 -0500


                            *Bobby McBay
    TEXARKANA, Texas (AP) -- Bobby McBay, who spent most of his musical career
playing bass with Bob Wills' Texas Playboys, died Sunday after suffering a
stroke last week. He was 60.
    Born the 11th of 12 children in a musically inclined Arkansas family, McBay
and six of his older brothers formed a band when he was 7 years old.
    McBay started playing the drums but became fascinated with a double bass
his brother owned, and that became his signature instrument for more than 50
years.
    McBay played with a series of bands for years before joining western-swing
pioneer Bob Wills in 1963.
    Wills developed his mix of big band, blues, Dixieland, jazz and western
music in the 1930s, playing dance halls and radio stations in Texas and
Oklahoma. He introduced drums to country music and formed the foundation for
countless artists to follow.

                         *Sylvia Field Truex
    FALLBROOK, Calif. (AP) -- Sylvia Field Truex, who appeared in nine films
and more than 40 Broadway plays and played Mrs. Wilson on the TV series
``Dennis the Menace,'' died July 31. She was 97.
    Playing opposite Gale Gordon's grumpy Mr. Wilson, Mrs. Truex was the
neighborly half of the couple next door -- always ready with a plate of warm
cookies and a kind smile.
    Mrs. Truex, a Boston native, began her professional acting career in a New
York play, ``The Bluebird,'' at age 17.
    She married actor and comedian Ernest Truex in the 1940s and starred in a
TV series on a New York station that featured members of her family. The
series ran three years before she and her husband moved to California.
    In addition to her ``Dennis the Menace'' role -- which aired on CBS from
1959 to 1963 -- Mrs. Truex appeared in such popular series as ``Perry
Mason,'' ``Mickey Mouse Club,'' ``The Millionaire,'' ``Search for Tomorrow,
``Father Knows Best,'' ``Hazel,''
``Petticoat Junction,'' ``World of Disney'' and ``Harry O.''
    Her movie career included roles in ``Nobody's Darling,'' ``Her Primitive
Man'' and ``Blondie for Victory'' in the 1940s.
    Mrs. Truex's final two movies were ``All Mine to Give'' in 1957 and
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Vic's Lounge
Date: 11 Aug 1998 07:07:49 -0700 (PDT)


I went to Vic's Lounge yesterday.  It was very sad.  Has anyone heard
from Vic about this.  He was always a great person, I wonder what
happened.

I'm thinking of playing only those albums that were on Radio Vic as a
reminder of what a great site it was.

Eay Listening in th Big Easy,
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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica)  Les Baxter discography
Date: 11 Aug 1998 16:29:43 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >My site Record Collector's Heaven includes another Baxter-discography.
> >It includes quite a few releases not mentioned in the above discogs,
> >mostly ep's and singles
>
> yeah, huh.  too bad you lifted all the images right off my site.
>
> - kk

Okay, okay, I will put some items from my own collection on my scanner
as soon as possible....

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hi There! / Question List
Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:44:31 -0400


[e-mail] wrote:

> Mingo 2000 is my very favorite current"exotica" group

Would this in any way be connected to Mingo-go?  Please tell us more!

cheryl


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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Charles Moseley: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg - Casino de Paris]
Date: 11 Aug 1998 15:54:01 +0100


> From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
>
> I've been offered a late 1960s Serge Gainsbourg soundtrack LP thing called
> Casino de Paris, Nouvelle revue de Roland Petit ZIZI JE T'AIME - Zizi
> Jeanmaire (chansons de Serge Gainsbourg).
>
> With 10 Gainsbourg tracks - all written (except one) and sung by him.

Uh uh. These tracks aren't sung by Gainsbourg, they're sung by
Zizi. Do you like "revue" cabaret music, Folies Bergeres stuff? If so,
you might like it, but I think it's really weak, muddy sound quality,
and certainly not worth forking out for. (I do quite like the "King
Kong" song, though).

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 11 Aug 1998 16:56:18 +0200


Jill Mingo wrote:
>
> At 06:06 11/08/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >> I recently bought "1968" by France Gall. Very hip
> >>indeed!
> >>
> >
> >Does it have any Gainsbourg songs on it?
>
> Yeah, it has a couple. This and "Baby Pop" have been re-released.


"1968" has two Gainsbourg compositions: 'Nefertiti' and 'Teenie weenie
boppie'. This last track is also on the various artists compilation
'Further inflight entertainment'.
There is also a very nice France Gall-cd with all (??) of her German
songs. I listened to a couple of tracks, but I didn't buy it. Silly me.
This cd is readily available in Germany. Don't know if it's released in
any other countries.

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Subject: (exotica) Weekend scores
Date: 11 Aug 1998 11:19:14 -0400


Greetings...

A little late to be writing this maybe, but here you go.  All purchases were
made at the dusty flea market at Saylorsburg, PA, mostly from retirees that
have broken their record players.

Blue Hawaii -- Billy Vaughn and His Orchestra.
    I can't remember if anyone on this list has mentioned this record.
I couldn't pass it up, since it was in great shape and I fell in love with
the cover.  But, it has way too many horns throughout it for me to accept it
as Hawaiian.  The cover of Hawaiian War Chant is too swingin, and the note
bends/vibrato are too extreme.  This album has no mystery for me.
Dot Ultra HI-FI DLP 3165

Jackie Gleason Presents -- Aphrodisia
    I couldn't help myself, even with the cover blown out on all 3
sides.  The vinyl is nearly spotless though.  This record is the standard
Gleason fare.  Super-mellow and luscious!  This is my first stereo Gleason
record and I like it.  Is there a drug that I can take to keep me away from
his stuff?
Capitol Full Dimensional Stereo SW 1250

The Concert Sound of Henry Mancini
    I like this one.  Medleys of his Academy Award tunes, and 3 other
medley-sets titled "Peter Gunn Meets Mr. Lucky", "A Tribute to Victor
Young", and "The Music of David Rose"  Totally bombastic, thick, theatrical
orchestra sounds recorded by a "70 piece orchestra ... set up on the huge
Goldwyn recording stage in Hollywood ... in 'Dynagroove' sound."  Too bad
this is the mono release, it could have been huge!
RCA Victor Mono Dynagroove LPM-2897 1964

Living Strings play Henry Mancini
    Only marginally entertaining string based arrangements that lack the
"schmaltz" Mancini deserves.  A watery version of Peter Gunn and Baby
Elephant.  Fidelity is decent, though.  I was seduced by the nifty silver
foil cover.  Experiment in Terror cover is the most interesting, but is
still too thin for my ears.
RCA Camden Mono CAL 736 1963

The Lonely Bull -- Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass
    I don't care what you say, this is a classic.  This record was in
decent shape, and I can't get enough of his versions of "Desafinado" and
neo-instrumental "Limbo Rock".  That yelling back there is not too far from
M. Denny's bird calls!  Gotta have it in the pile.  One of Bossa Beat's
better bands.
A&M Records Stereo A&M 101S

Dean Martin -- Pretty Baby
    Beee-u-ti-ful!  With Gus Levine's orchestra and chorus (shoo-waah!)
Dino swings on "I can't give you anything but love", "Sleepy time gal", and
the old standard "Once in a While".  Not a bad cut anywhere on this record,
this whole piece of vinyl is very listenable.  It will get you looking for a
dance partner.  Love it, love it. One of my cleanest scores this wochende,
only a dollar.
Capitol Hi-Fi Mono T 849

Hugo Winterhalter Orchestra -- Airport Love Theme
    Another marginally OK record.  Good, tight versions of "Shadow of
your Smile" and the Bossa classic "A Man and a Woman".  Best track is "Never
on Sunday" with lots of bends and wacky trumpet.  Title track holds its own,
but is not near perfection.
Music Records Stereo MDS 1036

Percy Faith And Orchestra -- The Music of Brazil
    Holey Moley!!  I can't remember if I saw a review of this record
here in the past.  I am a sucker for Latin and neo-Latin stuff, so I REALLY
like this record.  The sound is not too far from Cugat's.  Great, thick,
percussive and lush versions of "Tico Tico", "The Minute Samba", "Atrevido",
"Brazil", "Amorada".  His version of "Delicado" has VERY luscious strings
harmonizing behind the essential harpsichord, then the spy-jazz horns fly
out of the speakers "whaaaa-badamp!!"  This record has lots of latinesque
energy.  My first Percy Faith record, probably not the last.  Caliente!
Columbia Stereo CS 8622 1962

Harry Belafonte -- Calypso
    Exotica?  Maybe.  Quintessential "Day-O" and "Star-O" and assorted
other Caribbean stuff like "Hosanna" and "Man Smart (Woman Smarter)".  A
must have (in my collection) to make things well rounded.  Decent shape for
$.50  Needed a good wash, that's all.
RCA Victor Mono "Orthophonic" LPM 1248

Blue Midnight and Other Fabulous Instrumentals By Bert Kaemphert and his
Orchestra
    Thanx to the exoticats for bringing this name to my attention.  I
probably would have grabbed it anyway just for the condition it is in.  Near
Mint.  This record could not have been played more than 3 times. It has no
audible worn out ceramic cartridge damage, no mold, dust or yellowing of the
cover.  The tunes are more interesting than Herb Alpert's arrangements.
This LP includes "Treat for Trumpet", "Cotton Candy", "Free as a Bird",
"Love", "Red Roses for a Blue Lady".  I LOVE this version of "Java"!  One of
the best scores this weekend.
Decca Mono DL 4569

Goldfinger -- Original Motion Picture Soundtrack -- John Barry, Shirley
Bassey, et al
    My spy-jazz fix for the weekend.  Wish it was the stereo version.
Not too bad for a buck, a little beat, slightly ground out, but very
listenable.  Gotta love the backcover B&W photos of Pussy Galore.  This
record needed a GOOD washing with the 2-1 mix.
United Artists Mono UAL 4117

Ferrante and Teicher and their Magic Pianos -- Rhapsody
    F&T do the classics.  I miss-understood on this one, should have
read the cover instead of just thinking "OOH! F&T!"  Although being Magyar,
their rendition of Franz Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody #2 is quite impressive.
It was worth the $.50 to get started collecting these guys.
Urania Stereo 78011

other scores, not necessarily exotica, on the same prowl:
Curtis Mayfield -- Super Fly
Carl Carlton -- Everlasting Love
5th Dimension -- Up, Up, and away -- Go where you wanna go
Soft Cell -- Non-stop Erotic Cabaret

Total cost for the above 16 LPs:  $9.00 and a 2 hour shopping experience.
Say what you want, I had fun.

surfing the chaos,
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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(exotica) Serge Gainsbourg - Casino de Paris]
Date: 11 Aug 1998 09:04:01 PDT




Now I know that Jacques is roughly James, and isn't "Zizi" the frenched
John-Thomas? Nifty title in any event:

Petit ZIZI JE T'AIME


 - Zizi
>> Jeanmaire (chansons de Serge Gainsbourg).
>>
>> With 10 Gainsbourg tracks - all written (except one) and sung by him.


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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Question List
Date: 11 Aug 1998 18:21:02 +0200



Hello Exoticats,

since I assume that almost none of you understood my introduction
in Dutch a while ago (if you still have it, I recommend running it
through a German-English translation machine, that's pretty close,
and it gets much wittier than I can ever be), I too feel obliged
to submit to the procedure and get on the couch to do a little
selfexamination: Eine Kleine Kackeguckerei.

1. Are you a musician? Explain...

No, but that doesn't keep me from banging the bongo's,
occasionally, and as long as people keep a proper distance
nobody gets hurt. Also, just bought an electric horn.
Will frighten the neighbours, I hope.

2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

I was a great fan of Schriebl & Hupperts, a Dutch accordeon
duo that used to play in my grandmothers cafe during the
annual fair. Sat on the stage most of the time humming along
with the Schneewalzer, the Cuckoo Waltz, and marches like
Alte Kameraden and Tiroler Holzacker Buab'n.

There was a jukebox with favourites like Conny Froboess
(Zwei kleine Italiener) and Freddy Quinn (La paloma),
Leni und Ludwig (Schoen ist die Jugend) and Gerhard
Wendland (Tanze mit mir in den Morgen), Chris Barber
(Ice cream) and Louis Prima (Buena Sera), many Dutch
artists like Anneke Groenloh (Soerabaja) and Ria Valk
(Rocking Billy), De Spelbrekers (Katinka) en Het Cocktail
Trio, no kidding (Batje Vier), Johnny Hoes (Och was ik
maar - O, I wish I had stayed home with mom) and Dorus,
the tramp (Twee motten-There were two mots in my old coat),
Malando's tango orchestra (Ole Guapa) and The 3 Jacksons
(accordeon trio) with rhythmic accompaniment (Auf Cuba
sind die Maedchen braun), and, of course, the queen of the
Smartlap, Liedje uit het hart gegrepen (Tear jerker, Song
from the heart), de Zangeres Zonder Naam, the Songstress
Without a Name (De bleke harmonikaman-The pale accordeonist),
the Dutch Yma Sumac ("Mexico! Meh-heh-xi-cooooohooooOOOOOOO!").
I vaguely remember The Spotnicks, and The Shadows too.

Around 1960 TV was still pretty rare in The Netherlands,
my grandmother had one prominently placed in the center,
which attracted quite a lot of folk.
It's there that I watched many an episode of Raumschiff Orion...

Anybody ever seen Coco & De Vliegende Knorrepot (The Flying
Crackpot, something between a coffee grinder and a boar, my first
flying pig, way before the days of Miss Piggy's transgressions
into space. BTW Kermit was my first flying frog)?

3. This list could help you more by...

More?
By including everything that doesn't strictly fall under the
UN Prevention of Terror Charter. I wonder whether this applies
to the latest Ringo Starr album.
Anyone?


4. Other exotica/things you collect


None, actually. I still have a few things from the cafe,
all stuff from the 50's and the early 60's, things like
ashtrays, drinking boots, cocktail glasses, coasters,
but it's getting less, the two most impressive ashtrays
have gone to pieces already (happened before I quit smoking).


5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like


Phew...., let me pick out a couple names at random and in no
particular order apart from gender: Joni Mitchell, Chaka Kahn,
Bonny Raitt, Patty Smith, Anne Clark, Heather Small, Fay Lovsky,
Marianne Faithful, Laurie Anderson, PJ Harvey, Asha Bosle,
Oum Kalsoum, Marie Keyrouz (yes, I'm very fond of the female
voice, and not only the voice, I hastily admit), Miles Davis,
Chet Baker, Courtney Pine, Olivier Messiaen, Steve Reich, Louis
Andriessen, Conlon Nancarrow, Captain Beefheart, Joe Meek, Randy
Newman, Tom Waits, Brian Wilson, Van Dyke Parks, Frank Zappa.....

6. What are you just dying to tell us?

The Viagra Boys finally made it to Moscow and are doing their
Babylon gig tonight, what a pity Brezhnev's already passed away.
They could rush in Lenin's tomb any time, I suppose.

7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
Tell us more!

Depends, I have a slight preference for the LP, the CD outweighs
the LP in practicality but soundwise and aesthetically I prefer
the LP. However, I listened to Zappa's "We're only in it for the
money" on CD recently, and it completely blew me away. I played
the LP a lot (and I guarantee, a lot means a lot) and I thought
I knew the album inside out, but this CD opened up a totally new
world for me. There must have been some tinkering done, I guess.

8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

The only thing remotely loungy I can think of is a deeply marine
blue silk shirt, no fezzes around here whatsoever. I wear a black
pointed cap, though, whenever I go skating, I mean real skating,
on ice, in midwinter, with the temperatures way below freezing point,
what a delight...

9. Shaken or stirred?

No Martini, I remember my early vomiting days (my mother thought
she had it safely locked way in the bedroom cupboard behind her
shoe collection), Calvados, please, Grappa or Malt Whiskey, pure,
not a lot of shaking or stirring going on, rocks, yes.

10. I clean my LPs with ...

Clean?

In theory I'll go for the distilled water & baby soap option.

11. My home page URL is:
12. I have a Licence To ...

... call myself a Virgo, although I'm technically a Lobster.

See Licence at http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto/signchange.htm


13. The first record I ever bought was...

You should have known better - The Beatles

That was after the first record I got as a present:

Okeefenokee/Tellahassee Lassie - Freddy Cannon

(both singles, my first album, a few years later,
was a Kinks compilation, Well Respected Kinks)

Had to bother friends and family greatly,
since I didn't have a record player yet.
The worst 18 months of my life.

Cheers, Ton


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Weekend scores
Date: 11 Aug 1998 12:22:51 EDT


If you like Carl Carlton's "Everlasting Love" try the original from 1967 by
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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Free Design
Date: 11 Aug 1998 17:40:58 +0100


Further to Mingo-go's post...

Jon wrote:

>My room-mate just recently lent me a CD of an early 70's group
>(I believe they're Scandinavian)

The members of the Free Design were all brothers and sisters and
were brought up in Delavan NY.  The band started when they later
shared an appartment in NYC while at music college.

>who have that Carpenters/Cowsills sound mixed with offbeat
>elements such as a song about a friend's Ouija board.

People forget that the Free Design had released most of their
albums before the Carpenters had their first hit.  They are
reckoned to be a major influence on the Carpenters.

>The artwork on the CD is rather confusing

As Jill pointed out, this is a recent compilation from Spanish label
Siesta (http://www.get.es/siesta/).  There are in fact two more
compilations due out on the same label in the next 6 months and
Varese Vintage have just issued a compilation in the US.

I've set up a special area within the Spaced Out website for the
Free Design, address below.

I'm going to be speaking to chief song-writer and co-founder Chris
Dedrick this very evening to tie up an interview we started a couple
of weeks back which will appear on the website shortly thereafter.


Robbie


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Serge Gainsbourg
Date: 11 Aug 1998 12:57:21 -0400


> I recently bought "1968" by France Gall. Very hip indeed!

>Does it have any Gainsbourg songs on it?

> Yeah, it has a couple. This and "Baby Pop" have been re-released.

For those interested, "Baby Pop" has three Gainsbourg songs on it -
"Baby Bop", "Attends ou va-t'en", and "Nous ne sommes pas des anges".
Like "1968", highly recommended if you like France Gall.

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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend scores
Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:05:27 -0700


Total cost for the above 16 LPs:  $9.00 and a 2 hour shopping experience.
Say what you want, I had fun.

Now THAT'S what thrifting is all about!  It's too bad folks get discouraged
if they don't score like you did the go-round.

Congratulations on a great shopping day, and by the way...
THIS is what all thrift-score list should look like! The details
given should interest even those who don't care for thrifting
lists.

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hawaiian Latin
Date: 11 Aug 1998 13:39:31 -0400


Speaking of how people organize their collections, I recently got one
LP which wreaked havoc with *my* filing system:

_A Latin from Manhattan in Hawaii_, Ernie Warren and his Orchestra (Fiesta).

Yes, this is a more-or-less Cuban rhythm/piano/flute--overlaid with
Hawaiian vocalists and a bit of steel guitar. And what does the "Little
Brown Gal" Merengue, or the "Aloha Oe" Rhumba sound like, you ask?
Well-- interesting. But maybe not quite as wild as I might have wanted.
(Also the female vocal tracks get a little too deep into Andrews sisters
territory for me. . . )

However they DO have a wonderful "Hula Cha"--which is none other than
everybody's favorite, "Hawaiian War Chant," done as a cha cha. The boys
sing the Hawiian lyrics, but somehow manage to work in "Cha Cha Cha" and
"HEE!!!" a lot.

Hey since you all probably own 37 versions of Hawaiian War Chant. . .  you
might be interested to know that it was composed by in 1936 the King of the
Hapa Haole songwriters, Johnny Noble. But he was ripping off the melody
from an earlier, slow-tempo love song called "We Two in the Spray."

Now the intersting part is that even though Noble published it with some
English lyrics, everybody kept using the old Hawaiian lyrics! I guess that
made it more "exotic" for the white audience. However these are not
at all warlike! Being in part:

  We two in the spray,
  Oh joy two together
  Embracing tightly in the coolness
  Breathing deep of _palai_ fern.

Now I don't have to draw a diagram for you here, do I? (To Hawaiians, who
live in a warm climate, coolness is considered rather erotic.)

Just another nifty factoid from that Kanahele book. . .


 --Ross

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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter insight sought
Date: 11 Aug 1998 19:55:34 +0100


Hi,
I just dug out the Ultralounge Leopardskin
sampler CD, and was wowed all over again
by Les Baxter's "Voodoo dreams".  It's just
so good I am contemplating buying more
of his work, and so I wonder if someone
(HRH King Kini perhaps?) could recommend
a suitable CD with more of the same sort
of material please?

I'm a little cautious, having bought some
Martin Denny CD's and while they're good,
they were not at all like "Swamp Fire", which
I rate as brilliant.  I also like the bossa nova
versions of Quiet Village a bit better than
the originals.

Hope all you folks are keeping c o o l in this
hot summer, and thanks for your help.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter insight sought
Date: 11 Aug 1998 11:10:19 -1000


>Hi,
>I just dug out the Ultralounge Leopardskin
>sampler CD, and was wowed all over again
>by Les Baxter's "Voodoo dreams".  It's just
>so good I am contemplating buying more
>of his work, and so I wonder if someone
>(HRH King Kini perhaps?) could recommend
>a suitable CD with more of the same sort
>of material please?


I would definitely run out and get the 2 disc "Exotic Moods of Les Baxter"
from Capitol. All great instrumental, orchestral, exotic journeys in the
same spirit as "Voodoo Dreams".  In fact, that song appears on this
collection also, I believe.  Sound quality is fantastic.

I love this set, and listen to it constantly.  I only wish they would
reissue MORE Les Baxter, rather than just this compilation. But seeing as
that may never happen, this set is the next best thing.

Funk's Score: 10/10

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter insight sought
Date: 11 Aug 1998 16:13:57 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-11 15:02:17 EDT, Hugh Wrote:

<< Hi,
 I just dug out the Ultralounge Leopardskin
 sampler CD, and was wowed all over again
 by Les Baxter's "Voodoo dreams".  It's just
 so good I am contemplating buying more
 of his work, and so I wonder if someone
 (HRH King Kini perhaps?) could recommend
 a suitable CD with more of the same sort
 of material please?

 I'm a little cautious, having bought some
 Martin Denny CD's and while they're good,
 they were not at all like "Swamp Fire", which
 I rate as brilliant.  I also like the bossa nova
 versions of Quiet Village a bit better than
 the originals.

 Hope all you folks are keeping c o o l in this
 hot summer, and thanks for your help.

 Hugh.
  >>

The Exotic Sounds of Les Baxter, a 2 CD set by Ultralounge is good, but the
Voodoo Dreams is such a good tune you may still be disappointed.

On the other hand the UltraLounge 2 CD set The Exotic Moods of Martin Denny is
excellent.  A rare version of Black Orchid on that set is spectacular.  If you
are more of a purist, the Scamp re-releases of the early Denny albums are
excellent but many not give the begineer the "sampling" they desire.  I
equally enjoy both the 2 CD UL set and the Scamp re-issues, but bought the UL
first (I hate to admit it but the graphics and packaging wowed me -- sorry
Ashley).  After that I did add most of the Scamp re-issures.

I found a Denny CD on the "Pair" label called "A Bachelor in Paridise" that
has some good "samples" of the various Denny offerings that was cheap and good
at the same time.  I would recommend this to those out there who want to take
a CD along in the car, to the beach, etc, but don't want to ruin one of their
"good" CD's (now don't get into a debate on what is a good CD!!!)

As most of the list members know, Denny used the bird calls, animal noises,
etc., to a much fuller extent that Baxter.  This is why I prefer Denny more
(of course the converse can be said for Baxter so you Baxter fans keep your
flames to yourselves).

Good luck Hugh and what ever you do let the list know your opinions.

Robert


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From: "Jeff Chenault" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Space Age Garage sale!!
Date: 11 Aug 1998 16:49:17 -0400


Hello fellow collector's of cool vinyl.  It's that time again.  Time for me
to unload a bunch of records.  E-mail me for this incredible list of the
Good Stuff all priced to sell............ CHEAP!!  Most of the records are
priced between $3-$5 with rarer key issues going for a little more.
Be quick these will not last long.

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Subject: (exotica) Tito Puente
Date: 11 Aug 1998 19:08:29 -0400


What's the story on Tito?

I'd always kinda overlooked him because I'd assumed him to be a bit too
legit for my tastes, as I like my mambo with a pretty big slice of cheese.
(I bought this really excellent Afro-Cuban jazz 2-disc set awhile back -- I
think it's terrrriff, but I never really *want* to listen to it.)

But, I've been listening recently to an (astoundingly) excellent vinyl
compilation of Cugat and Abbe Lane.  On Ms. Lane's tracks, the backup is
Tito Puente e la sua Orchestra, from the late 50s, I'd guess.  The tunes
are hot, and Puente's band sounds ... well .... really exotic.  Heavy
tremelo vibraharp & lotsa cool atmospherics.

I don't really recall seeing much of him on old vinyl; is he worth checking
out further & are there any particular CDs I should look for?

BTW:  His Simpsons stint already wins him bonus points in my book!






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Subject: (exotica) Re: Les Baxter insight sought
Date: 11 Aug 1998 18:23:07 -0500 (CDT)


i agree with the others Hugh,

go buy Capitol's "Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" 2CD set.  it is a wonderful
primer to les' exotic stuff.  also has some previously unreleased tracks,
so when that day arrives when you own all of Les' vinyl, these CDs will
still be a valuable part of your collection.  right?

JUST GO BUY IT, OR WE WILL BOIL YOU ALIVE IN A CAULDRON WHILE DANCING ABOUT
TO "KINKAJOU"!

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Subject: (exotica) New Schifrin disc
Date: 11 Aug 1998 19:40:48 EDT


With all the recent talk of Lalo Schifrin (and in particular, his work on the
"Dirty Harry" series), I thought it would be of interest to many here that
Hip-O Records released today a budget-priced comp called "Reel Lalo Schifrin."

Track listing is as follows:
 01. Coney Island (from "The Sting II")
 02. Main Title From Cool Hand Luke
 03. Apple Turnover (from "Rollercoaster")
 04. Mannix (from "Mannix")
 05. Nunzio In Love (from "Nunzio")
 06. Mission: Impossible
 07. Melba (from "The Cincinnati Kid")
 08. Roulette Rhumba (from "The Man From U.N.C.L.E.")
 09. All For The Love Of Sunshine (from "Kelly's Heroes")
10. Joint, The (from "Once A Thief")
11. Chase To The Convent (from "The Four Musketeers")
12. Ellen's Image (from "The Fox")
13. Dirty Harry's Creed
14. End Credits (March) (from "The Eagle Has Landed")
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From: BROGDON <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Space Age Garage sale!!
Date: 11 Aug 1998 19:11:05 -0500 (CDT)


On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Jeff Chenault wrote:

>
> Hello fellow collector's of cool vinyl.  It's that time again.  Time for me
> to unload a bunch of records.  E-mail me for this incredible list of the
> Good Stuff all priced to sell............ CHEAP!!  Most of the records are
> priced between $3-$5 with rarer key issues going for a little more.
> Be quick these will not last long.
>
> Jeff Chenault


Jeff,

Okay, please send me the list!  Thanks!

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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 11 Aug 1998 23:09:27 -0400


Just received the soundtracks (2 CDs) for the upcoming movie _54_, set
during the glory days of Studio 54. They've got the usual disco stuff,
some not-so-usual disco stuff, as well as "Cherchez la Femme" by Dr.
Buzzard's Original Savannah Band. (Mistakenly credited as Buzzard's
Original Savannah Band on the sleeve.) It's pretty famous I guess, but I
hadn't heard it in a while and I was reminded of just how great it
is--can't beat that mix of 1940s big band pastiche, rumba, and disco.

I actually have all 3 DBOSB albums on vinyl stashed somewhere and I was
wondering if they've come out on CD. Whatever happened to August Darnell
anyway? Is he still making music? (I saw Kid Creole & the Coconuts 5 or 6
times in their early 80s heydays and they put on one of the most
outrageous live shows I've ever seen. They embodied everything that's
right and beautiful about exotica to me.)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 12 Aug 1998 00:13:02 -0400


At 11:09 PM -0400 8/11/98, Elisabeth Vincentelli wrote:

>Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band............
>how great it is--can't beat that mix of 1940s big band pastiche, rumba,
>and disco.
>.......... Whatever happened to August Darnell
>anyway? Is he still making music? (I saw Kid Creole & the Coconuts 5 or 6
>times in their early 80s heydays and they put on one of the most
>outrageous live shows I've ever seen. They embodied everything that's
>right and beautiful about exotica to me.)

I have to agree with Elisabeth about August Darnell....Dr Buzzard, Kid
Creole and the various offshoots were all amazing, and exotic. Back in the
late 70's they called that style "Nouveau Disceau" on the radio here in
Boston. The original 12" version of "There But For The Grace Of God Go I"
by Machine fetches a hefty price on the vinyl market these days, although
it's more straight disco than the Buzzard version. Darnell and company did
a lot of great things on the Ze label in the late 70's/early 80's, an
incredible label which gets little respect these days but is overdue for
rediscovery. Look for Coati Mundi's fab "Me No Popeye" 12" for an
exotic-latin-disco grooveathon, as well as Don Armando's Second Avenue
Rhumba Band, and the banned 12" of Cristina doing "Is That All There Is?",
produced by Darnell. Last time I ran across Kid Creole they were on the
club circuit in Europe a few years ago. I haven't run across any of their
stuff on CD, but then again I haven't looked since I have the vinyl.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 12 Aug 1998 04:41:29 -0600



>I actually have all 3 DBOSB albums on vinyl stashed somewhere and I was
>wondering if they've come out on CD. Whatever happened to August Darnell
>anyway? Is he still making music?

I live in the UK, where I think Darnell is from - they certainly had tons of
their hits over here anyway. I haven't heard two words about him in years. I
bet he's involved in something somewhere.

I, too, love the Dr. Buzzard LPs, but which three LPs are there? I've only
ever seen two. They are really lush, and have always seemed a little
other-worldly to me. The vocals always seem a little off (not out of tune,
just "off" in their own direction). I wish I could find other music that
sounded like it...

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tito Puente
Date: 12 Aug 1998 04:49:15 PDT




>I don't really recall seeing much of him on old vinyl; is he worth
checking
>out further


Yes. Especially if you enjoy percussion records. I do not know about
compact discs releases, but keep an eye out for "Tambo!", with its lurid
cover featuring Tito pounding away on tom-toms as a masked witchdoctor
dances in the background. The tracks are all "exotically" titled: Dance
of the Headhunters, Rite of Tambo, etc. Lots of brass, upfront
percussion, scant cheese (saving the cover, which is extra-sharp).


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Subject: (exotica) Boulevard of Broken Dreams
Date: 12 Aug 1998 05:23:36 PDT



Being without turntable for the last few weeks, I have been reaquainting
myself with a neglected arrangemnt of cds. Last night I rekindled my
infatuation with a disc I had picked up in in the early 90's, "It's the
Talk of the Town (and Other Sad Songs)" by Gert-Jan Blom and the Broken
Dream Orchestra(billed on the cover as)Boulevard of Broken Dreams (Idiot
Records, 1985). It a collection of noirish American songs from the 30's
and 40's, described in the liner notes as "a collection of memorable
musical poems about the black side of the human condition." A mix of
vocals and instrumentals, these arrangements do effect a sense of
brooding emptiness, dim rooms and rain-slick streets, lond dull days (a
sort of tonal Hopper canvas):

1. Boulevard of Broken Dreams
2. Hummin' to Myself
3. Detour Ahead
4. In Other Words We're Through
5. Clouds
6. I Cover the Waterfront
7. I Get Along without You Very Well
8. A Cottage for Sale
9. It's the Talk of the Town
10.Chloe
11.You Broke the only Heart that ever Loved You
12.Travelin' Light

The package is designed as a cheap pulp novel of the pre-war era,
drunken unemployed men loitering on street corners, a few of whom are
turned toward a manifestly buxom woman entering a shabby redbrick
dwelling with an armload of groceries who seems not only aware of, but
to invite their famished leers (in the general malaise, how does she
seem so healthy, so well fed? How did she manage to afford that bursting
bag of food? <insert Jerry Lee Lewis tomcat purr>)
Anyone in Amsterdam (or elsewhere) know if this band has any other
releases on the market or if they still perform?

- mynheer waugh

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Subject: Re: (exotica) New Schifrin disc
Date: 12 Aug 1998 08:27:11 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-11 20:04:05 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< With all the recent talk of Lalo Schifrin (and in particular, his work on
the
 "Dirty Harry" series), I thought it would be of interest to many here that
 Hip-O Records released today a budget-priced comp called "Reel Lalo
Schifrin."

 Track listing is as follows:
  01. Coney Island (from "The Sting II")
  02. Main Title From Cool Hand Luke
  03. Apple Turnover (from "Rollercoaster")
  04. Mannix (from "Mannix")
  05. Nunzio In Love (from "Nunzio")
  06. Mission: Impossible
  07. Melba (from "The Cincinnati Kid")
  08. Roulette Rhumba (from "The Man From U.N.C.L.E.")
  09. All For The Love Of Sunshine (from "Kelly's Heroes")
 10. Joint, The (from "Once A Thief")
 11. Chase To The Convent (from "The Four Musketeers")
 12. Ellen's Image (from "The Fox")
 13. Dirty Harry's Creed
 14. End Credits (March) (from "The Eagle Has Landed")
 15. Hotel Nacionale (from "Voyage Of The Damned") >>


Looks like another compilation whose track, listing must havce been done in an
unlight room!


Ashley


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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) New Schifrin disc
Date: 12 Aug 1998 08:42:21 -0400


What?  Nothing from Bullitt?  I'll probably buy it anyway.

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman


> With all the recent talk of Lalo Schifrin (and in particular, his work on
> the
> "Dirty Harry" series), I thought it would be of interest to many here that
> Hip-O Records released today a budget-priced comp called "Reel Lalo
> Schifrin."
>
> Track listing is as follows:
>  01. Coney Island (from "The Sting II")
>  02. Main Title From Cool Hand Luke
>  03. Apple Turnover (from "Rollercoaster")
>  04. Mannix (from "Mannix")
>  05. Nunzio In Love (from "Nunzio")
>  06. Mission: Impossible
>  07. Melba (from "The Cincinnati Kid")
>  08. Roulette Rhumba (from "The Man From U.N.C.L.E.")
>  09. All For The Love Of Sunshine (from "Kelly's Heroes")
> 10. Joint, The (from "Once A Thief")
> 11. Chase To The Convent (from "The Four Musketeers")
> 12. Ellen's Image (from "The Fox")
> 13. Dirty Harry's Creed
> 14. End Credits (March) (from "The Eagle Has Landed")
> 15. Hotel Nacionale (from "Voyage Of The Damned")
>


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Subject: RE: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 12 Aug 1998 08:47:35 -0400



> Whatever happened to August Darnell
> anyway? Is he still making music? (I saw Kid Creole & the Coconuts 5 or 6
> times in their early 80s heydays and they put on one of the most
> outrageous live shows I've ever seen. They embodied everything that's
> right and beautiful about exotica to me.)
>
I think Kid C. is still happening.  I recall hearing about a show of theirs
*quite* recently, I think.  I saw them open for the B-52's in 1981.  WOAH!
To start the show, the backup women singers did a Egyptian
saunter/strut/dance/walk onto the stage, all three of them in leopard skin
bikinis. Followed by the Kid in full zoot suit regalia, including big hat
and spinning his chain.  That's exotica-tainmnet!

surfing the chaos,
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tito Puente
Date: 12 Aug 1998 09:18:11 -0400


Well, I am certainly going to look for "Tambo!", although I would also
recommend "Dance Mania", every track a winner and it's in Living Stereo.

Is Orthophonic sound good for the feet,
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Boulevard of Broken Dreams
Date: 12 Aug 1998 09:39:14 -0500


At 05:23 AM 8/12/98 PDT, you wrote:
>
>
>Being without turntable for the last few weeks, I have been reaquainting
>myself with a neglected arrangemnt of cds. Last night I rekindled my
>infatuation with a disc I had picked up in in the early 90's, "It's the
>Talk of the Town (and Other Sad Songs)" by Gert-Jan Blom and the Broken
>Dream Orchestra(billed on the cover as)Boulevard of Broken Dreams (Idiot
>Records, 1985).
>Anyone in Amsterdam (or elsewhere) know if this band has any other
>releases on the market or if they still perform?

You can get all your G-J Blom et. al. news at the Basta record site:
<http://max.eastsite.nl/BASTA?>

-Lou
(Thumbs up from me as well for Talk Of The Town. You need this and all other
Basta releases -- you do.)




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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Louie Prima (SP?)
Date: 12 Aug 1998 09:52:03 -0400


Excuse the mis-spelling....anyway....

Saw one of his LP's at the Salvation Army Saturday (of course, it was =
scratched to hell....) but was just wondering if it was any good or not.

The cover was a great "right outta the 50's, studio mock-up" color =
photograph featuring a wooded area, a moose, and Louie is a hunting =
outfit.

Been seeing the soundtrack to "A Man and A Woman" a lot recently - this =
any good?

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Angelo Zuccotti obit
Date: 12 Aug 1998 09:48:04 -0500


    COOPERSTOWN, N.Y. (AP) -- Angelo Zuccotti, a maitre d'hotel who perfected
the art of seating New York society at one of the city's most prestigious
supper clubs, died Sunday. He was 89.
    Zuccotti, who operated a bed and breakfast in upstate New York for the last
eight years, began working at El Morocco in the 1930s when it was opened as
a speakeasy and continued working there until 1969, returning briefly a few
years ago when the restaurant reopened.
    Through the years, he escorted Hollywood stars, European royalty and
Manhattan socialites to their tables, including Jackie Kennedy Onassis, Bing
Crosby, Cary Grant and Maurice Chevalier.
    He told New York magazine in a 1969 article that he regarded the room as an
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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Louie Prima (SP?)
Date: 12 Aug 1998 10:36:32 -0400


>Saw one of his LP's at the Salvation Army Saturday (of course, it was
>scratched >to hell....) but was just wondering if it was any good or not.
>The cover was a great "right outta the 50's, studio mock-up" color
>photograph >featuring a wooded area, a moose, and Louie is a hunting
>outfit.

Wow, whatta coincidence!  I just picked this up on Friday for a buck
myself.  The only Prima vinyl I've ever seen, curiously enuf, 'cept for
compilations.

I gave it a quick sampling listen when I got it home and think it's really
hot, especially if you're into him & Sam Butera & friends.  I really dig
listening to Prima, though I find, like eating eating a Cinnabon, you can
do it once every six months and feel like that's plenty enough.  (Also been
listening this morning to Keely Smith sings the Lennon & McCartney Songbook
... more on that later, if you're good ...)

>Been seeing the soundtrack to "A Man and A Woman" a lot recently - this
>any >good?

Wow, whatta nutter coincidence!  I would consider this soundtrack to be
pretty damn essential (imho), even though a lot of it is fairly tepid.  The
only thing is, I really have never found a copy of this on vinyl that's not
beat to hell.  And I've tried.  I found a pretty clean LP of "Live for
Live," another Lai soundtrack, and wanted to make a tape with "A Man and a
Woman" on the other side.  So, I must have about 8 copies of this record,
all crap.  (I've sorta memorized the distinctive color of the cover & jump
right to it in thrift stores!)

Anyway, the bottom line is, as I learned from the archives here, it's out
on CD *with* the very cool "Live for Life," and it sounds pretty damn
great.  I just got it Saturday (at an HMV, so it shouldn't be too tough to
find).  If digital is cool for you, then I'd say go for that.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 12 Aug 1998 10:38:34 -0500


At 12:13 AM 8/12/98 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote:
>
>At 11:09 PM -0400 8/11/98, Elisabeth Vincentelli wrote:
>
>>Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band............
>>how great it is--can't beat that mix of 1940s big band pastiche, rumba,
>>and disco.
>>.......... Whatever happened to August Darnell
>>anyway? Is he still making music? (I saw Kid Creole & the Coconuts 5 or 6
>>times in their early 80s heydays and they put on one of the most
>>outrageous live shows I've ever seen. They embodied everything that's
>>right and beautiful about exotica to me.)
>
>I have to agree with Elisabeth about August Darnell....Dr Buzzard, Kid
>Creole and the various offshoots were all amazing, and exotic.
>Last time I ran across Kid Creole they were on the
>club circuit in Europe a few years ago. I haven't run across any of their
>stuff on CD, but then again I haven't looked since I have the vinyl.
>
>br cleve

Can I get in on this? Ditto from me - as Br. C. sez all Darnell's activities
have produced amazing music. I think the last Kid Creole CD came out in
1995. Go to these 2 URLs for more info on Darnell's music and movie-related
output:
<http://www.allmusic.com/cg/x.exe?p=amg&sql=B68733>
<http://www.allmusic.com/cg/x.exe?p=avg&sql=BP|86761>
Y'all might remember Kid Creole as the club band performing in the movie
Against The Odds.

Jill "Mingo-go" pointed out:
>I, too, love the Dr. Buzzard LPs, but which three LPs are there? I've only
>ever seen two. They are really lush, and have always seemed a little
>other-worldly to me. The vocals always seem a little off (not out of tune,
>just "off" in their own direction).

The story there was that Cory Daye, Dr. Buzzard's female vocalist,
supposedly never quite understood what she was singing. She got the melody
and all but was never quite sure of the content. And that's just the way
Darnell and his brother liked it - it produced that "seems a little off"
quality they wanted.

Years ago I saw an off-broadway play called In A Pig's Valise. It was a
musical detective-noir comedy starring a pre-fame Nathan Lane. Darnell wrote
the music and lyrics, and the Coconuts band (without Darnell) performed
live. It was great good fun and I wish that material had been released
officially.

My guess is that if Darnell will make a come-back soon it'll be in the
context of East Coast Swing. It'll be good to have this modern patron saint
back on the scene now that the rest of the world is finally catching up to
his swinging joyful elegance.

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 12 Aug 1998 07:56:31 -0700 (PDT)


Dr. Buzzard, Kid Creole, August Darnell, Coati  Mundi,  these are some
of my personal  favorite exotic dance grooves.  I can't believe Me No
Popeye & Is That All There Is were mentioned on this list. I thought I
was one of the few people who bought this when it came out. These are
two tremendous exotica dance cuts as is Annie, I'm Not Your Daddy,
Endicott, Life Boat Party, Yolanda and a few others.
I last saw of  August Darnell he was on Good Morning America being
interviewd by Bryan Gumble who said he had to have him on his show
after hearing the song Endicott once. (I guess this was 1983) August
Darnell was smoot &

There is a cd out (a compilation of some but not very much) of  Kid
Creol's songs.  I haven't seen any thing on Dr. Buzzard except Ce Ce
La<(Song title?> is on some disco compilation cd.

The song latin Music contains the following line:

"AH OH!, its Carmen Mir-rand-da,  the Coconuts got a brand new Cha Cha;
Oh NO!, the Rhumba & the Samba, whatever happened to the Hullaballu? "

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck

---"Br. Cleve"  wrote:

> At 11:09 PM -0400 8/11/98, Elisabeth Vincentelli wrote:
>
Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band............how great it is--can't
beat that mix of 1940s big band pastiche, rumba,and disco.
> >.......... Whatever happened to August Darnell
> >anyway? Is he still making music?

 I have to agree with Elisabeth about August Darnell....Dr Buzzard,
Kid Creole and the various offshoots were all amazing company did a
lot of great things on the Ze label in the late 70's/early 80's, an
incredible label which gets little respect these days but is overdue
for rediscovery. Look for Coati Mundi's fab "Me No Popeye" 12" for an
exotic-latin-disco grooveathon, as well as Don Armando's Second Avenue
Rhumba Band, and the banned 12" of Cristina doing "Is That All There
Is?", produced by Darnell. Last time I ran across Kid Creole they were
on the club circuit in Europe a few years ago. I haven't run across
any of their stuff on CD, but then again I haven't looked since I have
the vinyl.
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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Re: Puente, Cugat, Abbe Lane
Date: 12 Aug 1998 10:36:18 -0400


Chris wrote:
>But, I've been listening recently to an (astoundingly) excellent vinyl
>compilation of Cugat and Abbe Lane.  On Ms. Lane's tracks, the backup is
>Tito Puente e la sua Orchestra, from the late 50s, I'd guess.  The tunes
>are hot, and Puente's band sounds ... well .... really exotic.  Heavy
>tremelo vibraharp & lotsa cool atmospherics.

Chris, could you give us the details on this one?

I have a mid-sixties Abbe Lane album on Mercury which I love, but have
never found any others with a swinging Latin beat.  All her late 50s RCA
records I have heard have been filled with conventional ballads.

regards
Jonny

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Boulevard of Broken Dreams
Date: 12 Aug 1998 10:58:51 -0400


At 5:23 AM -0700 8/12/98, Ben Waugh wrote:

>Last night I rekindled my infatuation with a disc I had picked up in in
>the early 90's, "It's the
>Talk of the Town (and Other Sad Songs)" by Gert-Jan Blom and the Broken
>Dream Orchestra(billed on the cover as)Boulevard of Broken Dreams (Idiot
>Records, 1985).
>Anyone in Amsterdam (or elsewhere) know if this band has any other
>releases on the market or if they still perform?

They have 2 other albums out, both available on CD from the BASTA label
(they were originally on IDIOT) -

Lonely Avenue (1986) Basta 30-90342
Dancing With Tears In My Eyes (1987) Basta 30-9035

The back cover of 'Lonely Avenue' states "the 16 piece orchestra recorded 3
albums in the mid-1980's and then disappeared into thin air". Gert-Jan Blom
continued on with The Beau Hunks and assorted tributes to Raymond Scott,
Dennis Farnon, and Andre Popp. He's currently readying the Harry Revel
theremin records and Raymond Scott's electronic music for imminent release.

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jorge Ben
Date: 12 Aug 1998 09:25:14 PDT


While listening to the excellent Talkin' Loud compilation Brasillica II
i noticed that several of my favourite songs on it were written by Jorge
Ben (including 'Tuareg' a mad Brazillian Arabic tune with a mighty
bassline and some spacey dub, 'Gueremo Guerra' by Gilberto Gil and of
course 'Mas Que Nada'). i'm sure i'm exposing my ignorance but does
anyone know about him and decent albums by him / versions of his songs
available?
thanks
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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mr. Scruff
Date: 12 Aug 1998 09:30:18 PDT


While on the subject of compilations (i was) i recently bought
funkkungfusion, the last ninja tunes (coldcut's label) compilation (had
been waiting for it on vinyl but had to give up and get it on cd) and
among it's more exotica related delights (and there are many, sakamoto
orchestral piece done as techno, stereo test records, lots of lounge and
bossa samples) was a piece by mr scruff called 'fish' which appears to
be a childrens story record and some nature programs spliced together
like a trick set with chilled flanged lounge / ez grooves. Anyone know
any more about this? does he do more in this vein?
thanks
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: France Gall
Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:07:29 +0200


Marco Kalnenek wrote:

>There is also a very nice France Gall-cd with all (??) of her German
>songs. I listened to a couple of tracks, but I didn't buy it. Silly me.
>This cd is readily available in Germany.

    i think it's on Bear Family, easy to get anywhere...




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Tito Puente
Date: 12 Aug 1998 13:16:02 EDT


I must agree with Ben and Brian about Puente's Tambo and Dance Mania.  Tambo
is definitely his most exotica-like release. Cuban Carnival is a good one,
too.  I believe that all of these are in print and available on CD


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 12 Aug 1998 13:44:23 -0400


Wow!!! (smacking forehead) Thanks for the reminder!

Another cool record to watch out for is the 1981 Ze Records compilation, "Seize
The Beat (Dance Ze Dance)" Island/Ze IL 9667. "These songs are not available on
any album," the cover proudly proclaims. Original list price: $5.99 -- what a
deal. The tracks:

Material w/ Nona Hendryx - "Busting Out"
Was (Not Was) - "Wheel Me Out"
Christina - "Drive My Car"
Gichy Dan - "Cowboys & Gangsters"
Don Armando's 2nd Ave. Rumba Band - "Deputy Of Love"
Coati Mundi (Andy Hernandez) - "Que Pasa / Me No Pop I"

Dr. Buzzard / Kid Creole involvement on 3 of 6.
"Drive My Car" arranged by Stony Browder, Jr. w/ Darnell, Hernandez & Mickey
Sevilla as session men. Co-produced by Darnell.
"Deputy Of Love" produced by Hernandez & Darnell.
"Que Pasa / Me No Pop I" produced by Hernandez & Darnell, w/ percussion by
Darnell, backing vocals from the Coconuts and Gichy Dan and probably everyone
else.

Darnell also worked with Gichy Dan, doing the writing and production on his
first album, but apparently was not directly involved in the track here.

Also, for me at least, "Wheel Me Out" is still the coolest thing Was (Not Was)
ever did (well, "Tell Me That I'm Dreaming" comes close).

All of these tracks were originally 12" singles, 'natch.

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From: Eb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: the grim reaper of exotica
Date: 12 Aug 1998 11:40:20 -0700


>From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
>
>    COOPERSTOWN, N.Y. (AP) -- Angelo Zuccotti, a maitre d'hotel who
>perfected
>the art of seating New York society at one of the city's most prestigious
>supper clubs, died Sunday. He was 89.
>    Zuccotti, who operated a bed and breakfast in upstate New York for
>the last
>eight years, began working at El Morocco in the 1930s when it was opened as
>a speakeasy and continued working there until 1969, returning briefly a few
>years ago when the restaurant reopened.
>    Through the years, he escorted Hollywood stars, European royalty and
>Manhattan socialites to their tables, including Jackie Kennedy Onassis, Bing
>Crosby, Cary Grant and Maurice Chevalier.
>    He told New York magazine in a 1969 article that he regarded the
>room as an
>empty canvas. ``I am the artist and the people are my oils,'' he said.

What are you, on some sort of "Death of the Day" mailing list??

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:29:54 -0400


At 1:44 PM -0400 8/12/98, m.ace wrote:

>Also, for me at least, "Wheel Me Out" is still the coolest thing Was (Not Was)
>ever did (well, "Tell Me That I'm Dreaming" comes close).

If you can find the original Ze/Antilles 12" of "Wheel Me Out", check out
the amazing B-side  -"Hello Operator......I Mean Dad.....I Mean
Police..........I Can't Even Remember Who I Am"

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From: "VIC RUGH" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re: LOVE BOAT THEME, plus barbarella
Date: 12 Aug 1998 13:10:38 CDT


Late last month, [e-mail] wrote:
>>I was wondering, does anyone know who wrote the Love Boat theme?
Well,Joe Raposo and PAUL (not Pat) Wms (We've Only Just Begun) and Chas Fox
are each and all correct, for a song called LOVE BOAT, according to the BMI
database.

Titles with writer accounts matching "LOVE BOAT" are: (Total 10 titles, All
titles displayed.)
LOVE BOAT          FOX CHARLES         WILLIAMS PAUL
LOVE BOAT          BELL KENNETH E      SKINNER TERRY     WALLACE J L
LOVE BOAT          KANE ARTIE
LOVE BOAT          BARKAN MARK         TATMAN SALLY
LOVE BOAT          BELMONTE PHIL
LOVE BOAT          TALBOTT BRAD        EATON ROBIN
LOVE BOAT          RAPOSO JOE
LOVE BOAT          SAUSER HALL BERNARD
LOVE BOAT          BRIDGES JACQUELYN RENEE
LOVE BOAT THEME    PHILLIPS CHRIS      LEARY DENIS

I found it interesting that the "Love Boat THEME" was by another pair of
composers altogether (Denis Leary??)!  One would think that is the theme
from the TV show.  Supposing it is, then the label credits to any of the
others is a situation I'm sure happens relatively often, even with some
investigation on the part of the label.  They are given a title by the
artist or engineer following the session, and the specifics (composer,
publisher, etc.) may need researching.  And a common title may lead to the
wrong info.  A curious example:  in the 70's there was a "gospel" song
titled "More."  At least one recording of it credited the composer and
publisher of the tune "More (Theme from Mondo Cane)" (CIORCIOLINI, NEWELL,
OLIVIERO, ORTOLANI) which was NOT a gospel tune! Nor a gospel MOVIE!!  But
royalties would have been paid to CIORCIOLINI, NEWELL, OLIVIERO, ORTOLANI!
Anyway, ASCAP shows themes and cues for LOVE BOAT written by a half-dozen
composers, and that's typical, too.
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the grim reaper of exotica
Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:43:04 -0500


At 11:40 AM 8/12/98 -0700, Ed conjectured:
>
>>From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
>>    COOPERSTOWN, N.Y. (AP) -- Angelo Zuccotti, a maitre d'hotel who
>What are you, on some sort of "Death of the Day" mailing list??

While I bet Ghoul Poolsters have a DotD mailing list, I get 'em from
Clarinet's clari.news.obituaries newsgroup. I think it's worth remembering
that most of the archetypes and objects we hold dear originated with actual
(until recently) living people. In the case of Zuccotti, it's cool to
realize that Hollywood didn't create the Continental supper/nite club maitre
d' out of thin air, that once there strode amongst us the UR-maitre d'!

But if I'm straying too far afield, or creeping anyone out, lemme know and
I'll quit.

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From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mr. Scruff
Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:05:36 -0400




Robert wrote:

> ...among it's more exotica related delights (and there are many, sakamoto

> orchestral piece done as techno, stereo test records, lots of lounge and
> bossa samples) was a piece by mr scruff called 'fish' which appears to
> be a childrens story record and some nature programs spliced together
> like a trick set with chilled flanged lounge / ez grooves. Anyone know
> any more about this? does he do more in this vein?

The mysterious Mr Scruff can also be heard on "Cup of Tea Records - Another
Compilation". While not as odd as the Ninja Tune contribution, Scruff's
"Mouse at Organ" features ez grooves & a loopy organ sample. Recommended!

Allan


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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: LOVE BOAT THEME, plus barbarella
Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:28:29 -0400


Well, here's a bit of non-conclusive data to throw in the pot ... I was
checking out a latish greatest hits for Jack Jones last week, who sang the
tune for the show.  On the label, there were song credits & for "Love Boat"
it definitely said P. Williams (and probably C. Fox, I guess, I just hadn't
heard of him so I don't remember his name).

So, I bet on --

>LOVE BOAT          FOX CHARLES         WILLIAMS PAUL

But: this is from the guy who gave everyone a Kaempfert bum steer last week :)

(While I'm on the subject of embarassment, i hope no one actually took me
up on my recommendation to watch Jack Jones on Comedy Central awhile back.
He was okay, but the show is just goddawfully painful.  But, did anyone
follow my instructions to catch those Cher reruns on VH1?  If you did, you
saw Cher sing a whopping two-song medley of Jack Webb tunes with Art
Garfunkel, accompanied by Webb on piano [I think ... he didn't say a word
and barely met Cher & Art's glance]).

Hey: was it Tito Puente *Jr.* that was actually on The Simpsons?  Was
trying to find a listing for those most excellent Puente recommendations
(thanks, all) and discovered that there's a Jr. putting out some stuff.

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jorge Ben
Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:32:51 -0600


I've been a bit of a Gilberto Gil fan for a while. I don't collect
everything he does, but most compilations give a good overview of his music.
His newer stuff is a bit, em, well, straight and a bit bland jazz IMHO. I
haven't heard the Talkin' Loud comp but I'm sure there is some stellar
stuff. As for Jorge, I don't see as much of his stuff, but he has put on
perhaps the best live show I've ever seen (first show in London, 8 years
ago). I've never heard anything duff by him and many of the classic
Brasilian songs were penned by him. I've seen Gil 3 times - tremendous
performer. So my suggestion is buy a compilation (there are Philips Super
Personalidade series CDs/vinyl that give a great overview) and see what you
like best. And probably stay away from any 90s stuff...

 i'm sure i'm exposing my ignorance but does
>anyone know about him and decent albums by him / versions of his songs
>available?


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: LOVE BOAT THEME, plus barbarella
Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:51:03 -0400


Hey: was it Tito Puente *Jr.* that was actually on The Simpsons?  Was
trying to find a listing for those most excellent Puente recommendations
(thanks, all) and discovered that there's a Jr. putting out some stuff.

No, unless Jr. was lopped off in the credits.  Having seen him in concert,
it didn't sound like a Jr.

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From: "VIC RUGH" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) J Webb
Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:50:49 CDT


Dear Chris:
You wrote
 follow my instructions to catch those Cher reruns on VH1?  If you did, you
 saw Cher sing a whopping two-song medley of Jack Webb tunes with Art
 Garfunkel, accompanied by Webb on piano

As much as Jack Webb loved his music, I'll bet you meant JIMMY Webb?  I
hafta say I love it when someone ELSE (besides me) does this!  I am ALWAYS
staring at what I write saying "Now is that really what I mean to say?"



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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: J Webb
Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:59:59 -0400


>As much as Jack Webb loved his music, I'll bet you meant JIMMY Webb?

D'OH!!!!!!

Just the facts, ma'am ...

Okay, I'm shutting down my computer and going home, now.


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From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: LOVE BOAT THEME, plus barbarella
Date: 12 Aug 1998 17:02:38 -0400




Vic wrote:

(snip)
> Well,Joe Raposo and PAUL (not Pat) Wms (We've Only Just Begun) and Chas
Fox
> are each and all correct, for a song called LOVE BOAT, according to the
BMI
> database.
(snip)

Thanks for clearing that up, I was horrified to think that I posted
inaccurate info to the list!

Cheers,

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Easy Project
Date: 12 Aug 1998 17:12:29 -0400


Are the Easy Project and Easy Project II out of print?
What label where they on?
Does anyone know any info about them?

I've really started to enjoy the Sound Gallery's and Music for TV Dinners:
60s and was thinking these might be along the same lines.

Anyone know where I could pick some up over the web?

Thanks,
Peter
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Headhunter by Mandingo
Date: 12 Aug 1998 17:05:44 -0400



Anyone else notice how similar this is to Soul Makosa by... Scorpio, I think.
Well, similar... They're the same song, basically.

Anyone know who came first?

Peter
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Headhunter by Mandingo
Date: 12 Aug 1998 17:39:58 -0500


At 05:05 PM 8/12/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Anyone else notice how similar this is to Soul Makosa by... Scorpio, I think.
>Well, similar... They're the same song, basically.
>
>Anyone know who came first?
>
>Peter
>===
>Peter Risser

My bet is Manu Dibango's 1972 release of Soul Makossa came first.

-Lou




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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) For New York City list members
Date: 12 Aug 1998 17:51:07 -0400


New York City list members:

A reminder: (from http://www.inhi-fi.com/nyc/nyc-hom.htm)

Thursday, 13 August, In Hi-Fi joins Michael Toth's international tribute
to Enoch Light by representing New York City.  DJs Jack Fetterman, Jonny
Perl, Peter Principle, and Anita Serwacki are gleefully digging through
their piles of records - sifting out the Command and Project 3 Label
Light produced masterworks, for an evening of pure Enoch Light inspired
aural delight.

In Hi-Fi is at Bar d'O, which is located in the west village on the
corner of Bedford and Downing streets, close to Houston St and 6th
Avenue.

Hope you can make it,

regards

Jonny

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From: [e-mail] (Kirsten Whitley)
Subject: (exotica) Fay and Deke
Date: 12 Aug 1998 17:31:29 -0500



Hi Everybody,

I am one of those rushed lurkers who has a hard enough time reading
the list postings. I only steal time away from work once or twice
a year to post. Here goes:

First, on a meta-level topic, 329 is a fine number of people. The
only sad thing, for me, has been noting that, over the life of
this list, several knowledgable people have left :-( I just hope
our current experts stick around (Br. Cleve, Ashley, Pea, Johan, etc,
etc, etc).

On a second meta-level topic, about the issue of where to find records
(thrifts et al.): I have purchased several albums from list members.
This, then, becomes another way to participate in the list (besides
posting). Buying from listees (and tape trading) has been a major
way of educating myself. I really want to thank all the list members
who have brought their stuff to the list to sell!! ... esp at
reasonable prices.

But, now, for the actual reason for my post:

* Fay McKay:
Does anyone know of a Fay McCay album in which she does a version
"The Twelve Days of Christmas"? As described in ISM, Volume 1:

"Fay McKay is a favorite. She was a protege of Liberace, and mostly
she performed in small clubs in Las Vegas."

"Anyway, back to Fay McKay -- her song, "The Twelve Days of Christmas",
in which the singer becomes progressively more inebriated, is a
classic. Her version is an absolutely relentless, nonstop
degreneration into slurred speech and nonsense syllables...."

I have been looking for this album for years. So far, I haven't
found it :-( and the most frustrating thing is that I haven't even
met anyone who has ever seen the album. Please, if any of you
have any info, please send it my way! Does anyone know what the
album cover looks like? Finally, as if I have a chance: does
anyone have a copy that would be willing to make me a tape???

* Deke Dickerson:
I heard a cool tune on the radio the other day called "Swingin'
Sounds in Outer Space"; it sounded surfy with spacey noises.
The DJ said that it is on something like the Echophonics label (?).
Who is this dude? My preliminary research shows that a Deke
Dickerson is listed in the All Music Guide, but without any
biolgraphical info. It looks like he's an older man, but I
think that the "Swingin'..." tune is new.... Again, does anyone
know what I am talking about?

--Kirsten
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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Secret life of Plants (was Fay McKay)
Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:28:10 +0000


I had the opportunity to talk to a local DJ in the San Jose area who has
19 hours of christmas committed to reel tape. I thought for sure this
guy would at least have HEARD of it, for there is not much that Dennis
Terry, the self proclaimed "round mound of sound" does not know about
pop music. Faye Mckay, even in the context of Liberace, rang no bells.

Since we have corresponded on this issue, I have been reflecting
on the phenomenon that you are experiencing. I have suffered the same
mania over things I have only heard once, or some movie that I catch the
end of and never find again.

When I was in college, home alone and extremely stoned, I stumbled
across "The Secret Life of Plants" one night on TV. Of course, as I
tried in vain to explain my experience to my contemporaries, I could not
help but notice that they all thought I was nuts. (If you have never
seen it, I will not even try to explain...too weird!) It took me a long
time to find someone else who had seen it so I could at least be sure it
was not some kind of psychotic episode. (I'm much better now, thank
you.)

Anyway, I sympathize. At least you have a few details to go on.
I have been looking for a record I had as a child. It was a 45 of a
a christmas song sung by Santa's Reindeer. That is the only detail I
have to go on outside of the fact that I remember that as the song
fades, one of the (very chipmunk-y sounding) reindeer is saying, "And
you, and you, and YOU." I don't suppose you ever heard... Naaawww.

But back to the Secret life of plants. The most amzing thing about this
film is the BIZARRE  and rambling Stevie Wonder soundtrack in which he
sings ballads about the tender emotional sensitivities of plants and the
brilliant men who pioneered this "science." I could not stop asking
myself, "Is this some kind of joke?"


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Subject: Re:  RE: (exotica) New Schifrin disc
Date: 12 Aug 1998 19:47:16 EDT


>>>What?  Nothing from Bullitt?  I'll probably buy it anyway.<<<

Admittedly, "The Reel Lalo Schifrin" is weak in its selection, in which case
I'd recommend the Motor import disc "Mission: Impossible...and More!"

This disc contains the themes to "M:I," "Dirty Harry," "Bullitt" and many
more. All tracks are on the cool side of Schifrin; none of this "Sting II"
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Mr. Scruff
Date: 12 Aug 1998 21:11:33 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-12 12:34:07 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< While on the subject of compilations (i was) i recently bought
 funkkungfusion, the last ninja tunes (coldcut's label) compilation (had
 been waiting for it on vinyl but had to give up and get it on cd) and
 among it's more exotica related delights (and there are many, sakamoto
 orchestral piece done as techno, stereo test records, lots of lounge and
 bossa samples) was a piece by mr scruff called 'fish' which appears to
 be a childrens story record and some nature programs spliced together
 like a trick set with chilled flanged lounge / ez grooves. Anyone know
 any more about this? does he do more in this vein?
 thanks >>


Mr. Scruff records primarily for the Ninja Tune label and has an album (I
believe) due later this year. The "Fish" track appears on a 3 track 12" single
which has other very nice downtempo jazzy tracks to it. Whilke not all of Mr.
Scruff's material is as wonderfully strange as "Fish" all his tracks show his
love for exoitca/easy listening influences.

He has a lovely Brazilian style track appearing on the "Trip Do Brazil" CD and
LP compilation (this is a collection of new electronic artists doing a series
of Brazilian influenced tracks) and is well worth looking into.

Ashley


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Headhunter by Mandingo
Date: 12 Aug 1998 18:33:30 +0000


At 05:05 PM 8/12/98 -0400, Peter wrote:
>Anyone else notice how similar this is to Soul Makosa by... Scorpio, I think.

Is this the same Soul Makosa that Manu Dibangu had a hit with on Atlantic
in the early 70's?

..."mamma koo, mamma sah, mamma koo mah sah..."

Byron

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Fay and Deke
Date: 12 Aug 1998 18:33:58 +0000


At 05:31 PM 8/12/98 -0500, Kirsten wrote:
>* Fay McKay:
>Does anyone know of a Fay McCay album in which she does a version
>"The Twelve Days of Christmas"?

Kirsten, I am in the same boat as you.  I heard it quite a bit
in the early 70's off KMED-AM 1440 in Medford, Oregon.  I may have
an aircheck of the DJ playing it.

Alas, he never said anything more about it...just that she was the
"FABULOUS Fay McCay."

It is one of my mystery songs...one I want a copy of, but for now just
more information would be helpful.  For years I had the same problem with
Ma Nah Ma Nah (or however it's spelled) and Dean Elliot's Version of
"You're the Top."  This list helped solved my quest on the last two.  Your
post just
provided me with info about Fay McCay I didn't know.

Good luck, and if you find out anything, let all of us know.

Here's another mystery tune.  They played it on NBC's Monitor at about the
same time as the Manu Dibango "Soul Makossa" (the early 70's). It was
called "Shofar so good" and featured a Shofar, an Israeli horn. I liked the
pun and the music.

Byron

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Louie Prima
Date: 12 Aug 1998 18:34:06 +0000


At 09:52 AM 8/12/98 -0400, Nathan wrote:
>Saw one of his LP's at the Salvation Army Saturday (of course, it was
scratched to hell....) but was just wondering if it was any good or not.
>The cover was a great "right outta the 50's, studio mock-up" color
photograph featuring a wooded area, a moose, and Louie is a hunting outfit.

Louie Prima.  He's the wildest.  This is one of his better records.  His
Dot records are pretty tame, but most of the Capitol records do a good job
capturing his great Las Vegas style approach in-studio (and, also, on stage).
Louie has fun and he's swings in a way few duplicate.

It is his version of "Jump, Jive and Wail" that is used in a prominent
national television ad now airing in the US.

Byron

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tape Traders Welcomed
Date: 12 Aug 1998 22:38:01 EDT


Greetings and salutations,

I am looking for other hep cats to trade lounge-jazz mixes with.  So far I
have
assembled 13 100 minute "Lounge & Jazz"  mixes culled 40% from CD's and 60%
from my extensive lounge vinyl collection and 3  100-minute "Noir" tapes.
Artists Include:
John Barry
Tommy Boyd
Martin Denny
Al Caiola
Frank Comstock
Henry Mancini
Hugo Montenegro
Warren Barker
United Future Organization
Tony Bennett
Tipsy
Combustible Edison
Toledo
Joe Puma
Esquivel
101 Strings
Ferrante & Teicher
Ben Vaughn
Frank Sinatra
Arthur Lyman
Walter Wanderly
Cal Tjader
Vince Guaraldi
Dave Brubeck
Perez Prado
Tito Puente
Stan Getz
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Astrud Gilberto
Joau Gilberto
Lew Davies
Don Sebesky
Cosmic Sounds
Jack Jones
and many many more.

Let's us swap... what'dyu say?  Reply to [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Dunfrund)
Subject: (exotica) Ukulele "hits"...
Date: 12 Aug 1998 19:54:21 -0700




Those into a summertime "tropical mood" would be well advised to check
out the just released, "Legends of Ukulele", on Rhino Records.  It's got
a wide variety of tunes guaranteed to liven up your "little grass shack"!


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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 13 Aug 1998 00:01:35 -0400


>The original 12" version of "There But For The Grace Of God Go I"
>by Machine fetches a hefty price on the vinyl market these days
An underrated disco classic! If you're not a vinyl purist, it's on =
the _Kiss Me Guido_ (one of the worst movies I've ever seen) =
soundtrack. It should be easily available in your nearest bargain =
bin.

>the Ze label in the late 70's/early 80's, an
>incredible label which gets little respect these days but is overdue for
>rediscovery
Ze was fab and way ahead of its time, co-founded by Frenchman Michael =
Zilka I believe. A good introduction is _Zetrospective_ (Ze/Island, =
1989,) a collection on 2 CDs: "Hope Springs Eternal" and "Dancing in =
the Face of Adversity", the latter of which features Coati Mundi's =
"Me No Pop I" and Don Armando's Second Avenue Rhumba Band's "Deputy =
of Love". Coati Mundi actually performs semi-regularly at Tramps in =
New York, but I've never seen him.

I used to be so obsessed by August Darnell's various projects=8Band =
he was involved in many=8Bthat I even bought the Coconuts' "solo" =
album! I only have Cristina's stuff on tape (her version of "Drive My =
Car" is fab) and would love to get it on vinyl or CD. Yes, that's a =
hint.

Dr. Buzzard's 3 LPs were their self-titled debut (1976), _Dr. =
Buzzard's Original Savannah Band Meets King Pennet_ (1978) and _James =
Monroe H.S. Presents Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band Goes to =
Washington_ (1979). The SPIN guide also mentions _Calling All =
Beatniks_ (1986) which smells like a compilation.

Elisabeth


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From: the curator <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Schifrin disc
Date: 12 Aug 1998 19:33:52 +0000


>With all the recent talk of Lalo Schifrin (and in particular, his work on the
>"Dirty Harry" series), I thought it would be of interest to many here that
>Hip-O Records released today a budget-priced comp called "Reel Lalo Schifrin."

Are these original recordings? What do *you* think of the disc? Many of us
would like to know.

friendly

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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Boulevard of Broken dreams
Date: 13 Aug 1998 12:45:34 +0200


Br. Cleve wrote:

> Gert-Jan Blom
> continued on with The Beau Hunks and assorted tributes to Raymond Scott=
,
> Dennis Farnon, and Andre Popp. He's currently readying the Harry Revel
> theremin records and Raymond Scott's electronic music for imminent rele=
ase.

Don't forget the great tribute to the music of French composer/arranger
Roger Roger (also available on Basta). A must for anyone who likes the
music of Andr=E9 Popp.

Marco K.


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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Boulevard of Broken Dreams
Date: 13 Aug 1998 12:46:05 +0200


Ben Waugh wrote:
> =

> The package is designed as a cheap pulp novel of the pre-war era

This great design was made by Piet Schreuders, a "connaiseur" of pulp
novels. He wrote a great book about the subject: "Paperbacks USA". =

Piet also has his own 15 minute (!) radio-show on Dutch VPRO-radio. He
plays lots of great music that anyone on this list would like to hear:
Raymond Scott, Leroy Shield, Andr=E9 Popp, lots of cartoon-soundtracks an=
d
music from 'production music libraries', etc. =

A must for all Dutch/Belgian/German people on this list. (The radio-show
will start again in September, but maybe it wil move from
tuesday-afternoon to the evening hours)

Marco K.


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From: "Andrea Rota" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Fay and Deke
Date: 13 Aug 1998 14:19:03 +0200


> * Deke Dickerson:
> I heard a cool tune on the radio the other day called "Swingin'
> Sounds in Outer Space"; it sounded surfy with spacey noises.
> The DJ said that it is on something like the Echophonics label (?).
> Who is this dude? My preliminary research shows that a Deke
> Dickerson is listed in the All Music Guide, but without any
> biolgraphical info. It looks like he's an older man, but I
> think that the "Swingin'..." tune is new.... Again, does anyone
> know what I am talking about?
>
> - --Kirsten
> [e-mail]

Hi Kirsten, Deke Dickerson is a former member of the Untamed Youth (great
surf r'n'r band). At this moment he started his new band Deke Dickerson &
the Ecco-Fonics. He's only 30 maybe 29.
I never listen to his new band but the record is for sure on his label:
Ecco-Fonics Records. I recommend everyone, who like surfy tunes, every
recordings from The Untamed Youth.

If you need more info check out those sites:
The Untamed Youth:
Http://www.juvalamu.com/youth/
Deke Dickerson & his Ecco-Fonics:
Http://sleepy.loomisgroup.com/ecco-fonic/ecco-fonic.html

Andrea.
Hey Gionni, I'm not lurkin' anymore.


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From: "Mark B. Conklin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Easy Project
Date: 13 Aug 1998 08:13:45 -0600


>Are the Easy Project and Easy Project II out of print?

According to the all music guide (http://www.allmusic.com), yes they are.
But, I haven't seen them around in awhile.

>What label where they on?

Sequel, CAS or Sere depending on where you find them.

>I've really started to enjoy the Sound Gallery's and
>Music for TV Dinners: 60s and was thinking these might
>be along the same lines.

IMO, neither volume is as good as the Sound Gallery's, Sound Spectrum or
the Music for TV Dinners compilations (although the MFTVD 50s one reminds
me of 20 renditions of the Leave It To Beaver theme sometimes), but both
have their moments. They work better for me in a five CD changer, set to
all discs random, with some other CDs in the mix.

>Anyone know where I could pick some up over the web?

I think Music Blvd. and CD Now have the German imports (which wouldn't be
too bad if you can find one of the $10 off coupons that both companies
advertise here and there).

MC

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend scores
Date: 13 Aug 1998 10:13:51 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-11 11:32:36 EDT, you write:

<< Living Strings play Henry Mancini
     Only marginally entertaining string based arrangements that lack the
 "schmaltz" Mancini deserves....>

Keep an eye peeled for the LIVING BRASS PLAYS A HENRY MANCINI TRIBUTE, which
will is quite good.  Includes a vocal of Peter Gunn, arranged and conducted by
Ray Martin.

<<The Lonely Bull -- Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass
     I don't care what you say, this is a classic... >>

You bet it is!  When I was 12 back in 1968, I would play this record over 'n
over again on my German stereo console that was covered with peace symbols,
flowers and my collection of other (bubble gum?) stickers that spoofed popular
products such as Crust instead of Crest.

Also receiving ALOT of play on that old turntable:

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly OST
The Two Sides of the Smothers Brothers (Stella's Got A Brand New Dress)
Roger Miller's Greatest Hits (You Can't Roller Skate In A Buffalo Herd)
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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend scores
Date: 13 Aug 1998 07:29:41 PDT



 collection of other (bubble gum?) stickers that spoofed popular
>products such as Crust instead of Crest.

Ah yes! "Wacky Packages." My favorites included Commie Cleanser, Hipton
Tea Bags and Cap'n Crud Cereal. There were also those nifty Hot-rod
driving Ratfink stickers.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Easy Project
Date: 13 Aug 1998 11:04:31 -0500


At 08:13 AM 8/13/98 -0600, Mark B. wrote:
>
>>Are the Easy Project and Easy Project II out of print?

Here are three sites that help organize an on-line music purchase search:

Best Big On-Line
<http://home1.gte.net/mcorphan/musicstore.html>

Bottom Dollar
<http://www.bottomdollar.com/music.html>

Bargain Finder
<http://bf.cstar.ac.com/bf/>

These sites shouold help you search many on-line stores for availability and
let you comparison shop for best prices.

-Lou




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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Weekend scores
Date: 13 Aug 1998 10:52:25 -0400



>  stickers that spoofed popular
> products such as Crust instead of Crest.
>
>
Holy flashback, they were called Wacky Packages!

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman


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From: "Basta Audio Visuals" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re : Boulevard of Broken Dreams
Date: 13 Aug 1998 01:06:54 +0200


The complete Boulevard of Broken Dreams is available from www.basta.nl . Two
other titles are

- Dancin` with tears in my eyes
- Lonely Avenue

Gert Jan Blom is also working at Basta as A&R and producer. He is currently
working on:

- Manhattan Research ( a new Raymond Scott double cd )
- Perfume set to Music
- Music out of the Moon
- Piece of Mind
- The Unexpected by the Secret Seven ( Raymond Scott, Toots Tielemans )
- Scott Big Band Project by The Beau Hunks

Gert Jan was also responsible for the re-issue of Soothing Sounds for Baby
Vol. 1,2 & 3 and Reckless Nights & Turkish Twilights, both by Raymond Scott.
He also brought up Andre Popps Delirium in Hifi, two Raymond Scott tributes
by The Beau Hunks.

The Beau Hunks is a documentary orchestra, which recently released an album
called * The Modern American Music of Ferde Grofe*.

The Beau Hunks, founded by Gert Jan Blom, also restored the original Laurel
& Hardy tunes ( Shield, Hatley) what brought them a little fame in the US.

Gert Jan Blom also initiated a project called *Miss Bee Spoiled*. Together
with some of the Beau Hunks and one of the best female-singers from Holland,
Beatrice van der Poel, they recorded *Lotus Blossom*. This album, released
in April, got very good critics. The album contains all 30s songs about sex
& drugs. Very jazzy, excellent musical performance & a truly great voice of
Miss Bee.
The Miss Bee act can be seen live on the 13th and 14th August 1998 on The
Parade. The Parade is in the Martin Luther Kingpark in Amsterdam

Gert Jan also played in the band of Fay Lovsky (La Bande Dessinee) for a few
years.

Hope this update informed you enough,

Kindest regards,

Jeroen van der Schaaf
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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Flashbacks
Date: 13 Aug 1998 10:45:42 -0700



>>  stickers that spoofed popular
>> products such as Crust instead of Crest.
>>
>>
>Holy flashback, they were called Wacky Packages!

Remember the foodstuff whips that came out right after the moon landing?
They had the consistency of fig and soy product, and I think they were
advertised as being the snack of the astronauts.  We were trying to
remember their name the other day - "Space Sticks"?

Dave


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Benny Waters obit
Date: 13 Aug 1998 13:40:40 -0500


    COLUMBIA, Md. (AP) -- Benny Waters, a saxophonist, clarinetist and singer
who spent 70 years touring the world, died Tuesday. He was 96.
    Waters toured clubs and festivals around the world and was performing until
this June. He was known as a spirited performer, cracking jokes in different
languages and scatting through vocal breaks.
    Born in Brighton, Md., near Baltimore, Waters played in Charlie Miller's
band as a high school student. At the Boston Conservatory of Music, he
studied theory and arranging and gave private clarinet lessons. Among his
pupils was Harry Carney, who went on to play baritone saxophone with Duke
Ellington.
    In 1926, Waters joined Charlie Johnson's Paradise Band as a soloist and
arranger. The band, counting among its membership the likes of Jabbo Smith,
Benny Carter and Sidney De Paris, performed regularly at Small's Paradise in
Harlem and recorded until the late 1920s.
    In 1952, a tour with a Dixieland band led by trombonist Jimmie Archey took
Waters to Europe, and he stayed, living and working primarily in Paris until
1991.
    Despite an unsuccessful cataracts operation, he averaged 100 dates a year.
He was awarded the Legion of Honor by the French Ministry of Culture in 1996.
    His most recent recording was ``Birdland Birthday -- Live at 95,'' recorded
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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Secret life of Plants (was Fay McKay)
Date: 13 Aug 1998 10:56:46 -0700



>I have been looking for a record I had as a child. It was a 45 of a
>a christmas song sung by Santa's Reindeer.

Can't help, but this led me to remember a song from my childhood that I
couldn't remember the name or artist of.  It was a 45, and I believe it was
a Christian group, but considering the song, it wouldn't surprise me if I
was wrong.

They sounded like an upbeat, wholesome vocal group, along the lines of Up
With People.  I believe the song was called "Do it again (just a little bit
slower)", circa late sixties - early seventies.  Chorus:

"Do it again, just a little bit slower
Do it again, just a little bit slower
I just can't stand it when it's over (over)
Oh, do it again....   just a little bit slooower....."

Anyone remember this?  I'd love to keep an eye out for it, but it'd help if
I could remember who did it!

Dave


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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lucia Pamela CD
Date: 13 Aug 1998 11:03:03 -0700


Does anyone know if the "Lucia Pamela - Into outer space" CD from Arf! Arf!
Records is out of print?

Dave


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lucia Pamela CD
Date: 13 Aug 1998 13:59:09 -0500


At 11:03 AM 8/13/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone know if the "Lucia Pamela - Into outer space" CD from Arf! Arf!
>Records is out of print?

Using that Bottom Dollar comparison shopper agent (mentioned a few posts
back) turns up the following:
<http://www.bottomdollar.com/music.html>

SITE      DESCRIPTION                                            PRICE
Pentagon       Lucia Pamela: Into Outer Space With Lucia Pamela  $11.99

CD Universe    Into Outer Space With Lucia Pamela(1969)          $10.97

CD Connection  PAMELA*LUCIA -- INTO OUTER SPACE                  $12.47

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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Do it again (this time, slower)
Date: 13 Aug 1998 11:11:49 +0000


> "Do it again, just a little bit slower
> Do it again, just a little bit slower
> I just can't stand it when it's over (over)
> Oh, do it again....   just a little bit slooower....."

Speaking of "Do it again...

I sometimes spend a lazy afternoon at a local record store.
Invariably the phone will ring at some point with someone
asking about a long-lost song.

The folks at the store seem to get perverse joy out of putting the
callers on speakerphone and making them hum/sing the retained fragments
for all to  hear. "It goes Humm hummmm hmmmmmmm huuuuuhhhhhh Looooove
to see the Hmmmmmmm hummm hummmmmmmmmmmm...." My favorite episode
is when some (very drunk) guy called about "La Bamba." They first passed
the phone around to each employee. "Hmmmm... It sounds kinda familiar.
Hang on, let me get Bob on the line..." After a while, customers were
getting in on the act.

I suggested running tape and making a compilation. It is amazing how
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mortician Lou????
Date: 13 Aug 1998 14:19:33 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-13 13:45:40 EDT, Lou writes:

<< Benny Waters, a saxophonist, clarinetist and singer
 who spent 70 years touring the world, died Tuesday. He was 96.  >>

Geezzzzzzzzeeee Lou ! ! ! ! !  You must be a "dead head" as well as an
exoticat.  I am really gunna get worried if I open my "New Mail" folder one
day and see my name in a subject from you!

RIP,

Robert


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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lucia Pamela CD
Date: 13 Aug 1998 11:29:14 +0000


This is the place to go for more Lucia Pamela info.
It is a freakin' MUST SEE!

http://www.pandemic.com/lucia/

A brief quote to whet the appetite:

> The premise: Lucia pays a visit to Moontown and reports back on
> her findings. An Indian wedding. More oriental people than she
> expected. Lots of animals. No taxes. A virtual paradise. Except of
> course for the recording facilities.

I love stuff like this!


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) I know this one!
Date: 13 Aug 1998 14:45:20 -0400


"Do it again, just a little bit slower
Do it again, just a little bit slower
I just can't stand it when it's over (over)
Oh, do it again....   just a little bit slooower....."

I have a beat up copy of this on Abnak Records.  It is by Jon & Robin and
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From: [e-mail] (Kirsten Whitley)
Subject: (exotica) Re: Secret life of Plants (and FAQ suggestion)
Date: 13 Aug 1998 13:40:29 -0500


> From [e-mail] Wed Aug 12 18:27:39 1998

> Since we have corresponded on this issue, I have been reflecting
> on the phenomenon that you are experiencing. I have suffered the same
> mania over things I have only heard once, or some movie that I catch the
> end of and never find again.

Ron, thanks for commiserating! I'm glad I'm not alone.

The thought occurs to me that we could put a section in
the FAQ called something like "Unsolved Mysteries".  That way,
we'd maximize our chances of tracking this stuff down.


> But back to the Secret life of plants. The most amzing thing about this
> film is the BIZARRE  and rambling Stevie Wonder soundtrack in which he
> sings ballads about the tender emotional sensitivities of plants and the
> brilliant men who pioneered this "science." I could not stop asking
> myself, "Is this some kind of joke?"

Yeah, I have a few unexplained movie memories, too. For example, in
the "Is this some kind of joke?" category: back when MTV was new and
Night Flight (am I remembering correctly?) used to play those bizarre
movies late at night, I tuned into this black-and-white short about
2 college roommates. One of whom was upstanding, did his homework,
and stayed away from booze and drugs.  The other one strayed into a
life of wickedness and loose women... and in the end is carried away
in a straight-jacket.  I remember that there was a 1950s-style narrator
talking throughout. The weird thing was that I would have sworn that
the bad roommate was played by Paul Reubens (but I didn't see any
credits and so don't know for sure). I kept thinking that it had to
be a joke, made to look like a 1950s scare-the-youth, eduational film.

Another movie mystery that was very upsetting to me as a child:
a (French?) film that ends with a guy being cruxified to the side
of a train. As it ends, his lover is trying to run along beside
him. I don't know what the hell was going on... I was only about
10 years old... but that one scene made for many a nightmare!

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flashbacks
Date: 13 Aug 1998 14:45:11 -0400


> Remember the foodstuff whips that came out right after the moon landing?
> They had the consistency of fig and soy product, and I think they were
> advertised as being the snack of the astronauts.  We were trying to
> remember their name the other day - "Space Sticks"?

Do you mean "Space-Food Sticks"? Approximately 4" long cylindrical extruded
foodstuff (an apt word). Individually wrapped and pretty bland. The peanut
butter flavor was the favorite of this little space-tyke. It would be the
perfect snack to accompany "Astro Sounds From Beyond The Year 2000". And if you
could find an old package of them, I'll bet they would still be intact and as
edible as ever (but you go first).

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Flashbacks
Date: 13 Aug 1998 11:51:43 PDT



>Remember the foodstuff whips that came out right after the moon
landing?

And what space age child can forget Tang, the breakfast of astronauts?
I seem to recall it came in both orange and purple flavors.

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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Zou Zou
Date: 13 Aug 1998 20:53:57 +0200


Just scored my first Esquivel, hurah. However,
it's not an LP, it's the CD Cabaret Manana, $3.50...
I was shopping in the mall not far from where I live,
and passed through the music department, a place I
usually carefully avoid. I casually went through the
piles of CD's and voila, there it was. There were
stickers all over it, it must have survived at least
4 (four!) sales, I suppose that tells something about
the state of the art around here. Anyway, I'm happy.

Cheers, Ton


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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I know this one! was Do It again
Date: 13 Aug 1998 11:55:10 +0000


> I have a beat up copy of this on Abnak Records.  It is by Jon & Robin and
> the In Crowd and it made the Top 40.  You are right about the title.

You know, just ONE time, I'd like to be FIRST withan answer. Jeeeez!
Don't you people have JOBS? I called a pal and he knew it by the title.


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From: [e-mail] (Hess Jeffery)
Subject: (exotica) Hawaiian birthday boy
Date: 13 Aug 1998 14:16:50 -0500



  I don't know If anyone has mentioned this already, but with all this
ukelele talk I hear, someone might have an interest in knowing that today
is Don Ho's 68th birthday.  I'll never forget his appearance on the Brady
Bunch.  Evil medallions and all.


Jeff

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Robert C. Brooks, OD ibid.
Date: 13 Aug 1998 15:29:30 -0500


At 02:19 PM 8/13/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-08-13 13:45:40 EDT, Lou writes:
><< Benny Waters, a saxophonist, clarinetist and singer
> who spent 70 years touring the world, died Tuesday. He was 96.  >>
>
>Geezzzzzzzzeeee Lou ! ! ! ! !  You must be a "dead head" as well as an
>exoticat.  I am really gunna get worried if I open my "New Mail" folder one
>day and see my name in a subject from you!
>
>RIP,
>Robert

Anyone for a road-trip down South to a great estate sale? I hear there'll be
coffin-sized HI-FIs, convertibles, CDs, Esquivel frames, barware, etc. etc. etc.

-Lou
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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lucia Pamela CD out of print??
Date: 13 Aug 1998 12:53:10 -0700



>SITE      DESCRIPTION                                            PRICE
>Pentagon       Lucia Pamela: Into Outer Space With Lucia Pamela  $11.99
>
>CD Universe    Into Outer Space With Lucia Pamela(1969)          $10.97
>
>CD Connection  PAMELA*LUCIA -- INTO OUTER SPACE                  $12.47

I tried a couple of these on-line stores, and called a couple of
distributors, and everyone I tried is back-ordered.

I tried the Arf Arf site but didn't see any info....

Dave


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From: the curator <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Puente, Cugat, Abbe Lane
Date: 13 Aug 1998 08:30:49 +0000



>>But, I've been listening recently to an (astoundingly) excellent vinyl
>>compilation of Cugat and Abbe Lane.  On Ms. Lane's tracks, the backup is
>>Tito Puente e la sua Orchestra, from the late 50s, I'd guess.  The tunes
>>are hot, and Puente's band sounds ... well .... really exotic.  Heavy
>>tremelo vibraharp & lotsa cool atmospherics.

I've heard some excellent CDs by these folks on the excellent Saludos
Amigos label. In Spain these cost two quid!!! Everywhere else a little
more. Don't be put off by the covers.

'Scuse me while i dive back in my bargain bin ...

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Astor Piazzolla
Date: 13 Aug 1998 20:58:12 -0400


Recently got a fine Astor Piazzolla cd:
"Muerte del Angel" (Milan/BMG 73138 35841-2)

A 1997 release, it's a live performance recorded in Buenos Aires, July 1973.
Sharp, hard-edged music, from a quintet line-up. Antonio Agri's violin work is
dowright demonic at times, meshing well with Piazzolla's elaborate weavings on
the bandoneon (a member of the accordion family).

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Puente, Cugat, Abbe Lane
Date: 13 Aug 1998 21:28:52 -0400


** Just realized I hadn't posted this reply to the list yet.  Sorry! **

>>>But, I've been listening recently to an (astoundingly) excellent vinyl
>>>compilation of Cugat and Abbe Lane.

>Chris, could you give us the details on this one?

I'll try, but it's kind of an odd one.  The title is just "Xavier
Cugat/Abbe Lane."  Of course, I was initially disappointed when I realized
that it wasn't tracks of them together.  But, then I discovered that the
Tito Puente-backed Lane tracks were hot hot hot ...

Anyway, it's RCA NL42732, on the Lineatre label (?).  I think I bought it
in Canada (probably Montreal) for a buck, but don't remember for sure
because it took me awhile to get to it.  It doesn't look promising in the
least: cheap look cover, thin vinyl, lotsa tracks so I suspected groove
cramming.  It sez it was printed in Italy, and the price tag is for 58 Dean
Street Records in pounds (5.25), and most of the liner notes are in Italian
(though there's English translation of a long quote from Cugat).  I suspect
latish 70s from the graphic design, though if it's European my sensor may
be off kilter.  It does say it's available in "Stereo 8 e Stereocassetta,"
so I can't be too far off.  The stereo separation seems original and not
reprocessed, so I guess that tracks themselves can't be older than -- what?
-- 1955ish (I always forget that stuff).  But they definitely sound no
newer than late 50s/very early 60s Cugat, to me.

The tunes are (* = Abbe Lane con Tito Puente e la sua Orchestra, otherwise
Cugat)

Lato 1
Mambo No. 5
Nightengale*
Carioca
Green Eyes*
La Violetera
Noche De Ronda*
Oye Negra
Granada

Lato 2
Cuban Mamba
Whatever Lola Wants*
Lamaguena
Anna*
Linda Mujer
Babalu*
Bahia
El Relicario

Someone here can fill in some details relating to specific tracks.  Anyway,
the bottom line is that this LP really caught me by surpruse because it
sounds awesome, and there's not a dull track on the whole thing.  Abbe Lane
tunes either really rock, or are really exotic & sultry.  Cool stuff.
Almost passed this one up; glad I didn't!!





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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) scanning an album cover
Date: 13 Aug 1998 21:54:17 EDT


I'm not sure how to do this - can anyone help?

On my first try, I think I used TOO many (millions) colors or had the dpi
(300) or "bit" set to high (24).  As a result, the BMP files were HUGE!!!  I
could not fit 4 images on one ZIP drive!

"Stitching" the top and bottom halves of the cover together seems to be the
only way to produce a complete image.  I found this procedure difficult
because one of the images would rotate itself slightly.

Any tips that any of you that have done this would be most welcome and thank
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From: "Tim @ World Wide Wax" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) scanning an album cover
Date: 13 Aug 1998 19:45:52 +0000


I've scanned almost 1000 covers for my website on my cheapo
bottom-of-the line Nikon flatbed.  I have found it easier to patch up
two halves side-by-side instead of top-bottom.  With my scanner, I
get the full width of the cover with two scans, but I'm still missing
about 1/2" top and bottom.  I'd usually rather lose top & bottom
edges than the left & right edges, and I'm sure not willing to try to
patch 4 scans together.

The trick to getting them to line up nicely is just being very
precise in placing the cover on the bed, making sure it is perfectly
lined up.

If you're scanning the pictures just for viewing, you don't need that
kind of resolution.  Above 100 dpi is only necessary if you'll be
printing the images.  If you patch 2 scans at 100 dpi and scale them
down to 40%, they'll be approximately 450x450 pixels--save them in
JPG at 15% compression (in Paint Shop Pro--I think I use "excellent"
in Photoshop), you'll just have a (basically web-friendly) 50-100K
file, depending on the complexity of the image.

Tim

> I'm not sure how to do this - can anyone help?
>
> On my first try, I think I used TOO many (millions) colors or had the dpi
> (300) or "bit" set to high (24).  As a result, the BMP files were HUGE!!!  I
> could not fit 4 images on one ZIP drive!
>
> "Stitching" the top and bottom halves of the cover together seems to be the
> only way to produce a complete image.  I found this procedure difficult
> because one of the images would rotate itself slightly.
>
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Subject: Re: (exotica) scanning an album cover
Date: 14 Aug 1998 00:10:18 -0400


> Any tips that any of you that have done this would be most welcome and thank you.

Here is my method...

the command names may differ depending on the software you are using...I
use Photostyler, a dumbed down version of Photoshop.

I make two scans, one of the left and then the right, then merge them
together into one image. At this point the image is huge, approx 1200 x
1200 pixel resolution.

The next step is to use the 'blur' command to make the image a little
fuzzier.  After this you resample a little bit....I'll go from 1200x1200
to 900x900 resolution, for example, then maybe resample once again to
700x700, maybe 'blur' once more, then resample to 500x500 and then one
last time to 400x400 resolution. I tend to do it a little different each
time, but the above procedure is somewhat typical.

The key last step is to use the 'sharpen' command as many times as you
need to get the best image.  I've been real pleased with my results.

I'm doing this for my zine in grayscale (can't afford color printing),
so I'll end up with a typical image of 400x400 pixel 8-bit gray-scale at
about 100 d.p.i.  The total image size will be about 150k, much better
than the 1.5mb that exists before resampling.

Hope this helps;

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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) scanning an album cover
Date: 13 Aug 1998 23:30:05 -0600


On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 09:54:17PM -0400, [e-mail] wrote:

> I'm not sure how to do this - can anyone help?
>
> On my first try, I think I used TOO many (millions) colors or had the dpi
> (300) or "bit" set to high (24).  As a result, the BMP files were HUGE!!!  I
> could not fit 4 images on one ZIP drive!
>
> "Stitching" the top and bottom halves of the cover together seems to be the
> only way to produce a complete image.  I found this procedure difficult
> because one of the images would rotate itself slightly.
>
> Any tips that any of you that have done this would be most welcome and thank
> you.

Despite the hassles you're experiencing, you've got the right idea.  I've been
working on scanning large chunks of my collection for Lazlo's Discography
Machine, and while I'm kind of avoiding the 12" vinyl because of the amount of
work it'll be, the following tips have worked in the past:

 * Scan at the highest res your editor can deal with given your hardware
   setup.  (I'm doing 300dpi on everything up to 7" single size but will
   probably go to 150 for the LP sleeves.)  You'll be downsizing it later.

 * Nothing is ever lined up completely straight on the bed of the scanner, so
   don't waste lots of time trying to get it prefect.  You can correct the
   angle of the image in your image editor.  (Remember SOH-CAH-TOA from trig
   class: if you have a scan of a rectangular object like a record or CD
   sleeve and the angle is a little off, look at the locations of the lower
   left and lower right corners of the object you want to deskew.  If the
   sleeve art is 1200 pixels wide and the lower left corner is 20 pixels
   higher than the lower right corner, take the inverse tangent of 20/1200
   to get .954 degrees -- the amount by which you need to rotate the image
   counterclockwise to square it off.

 * Put the two halves of the sleeve on separate Photoshop layers of an
   image big enough to hold the whole thing -- then set both layers to 50%
   transparency.  This makes it loads easier to line everything up.

 * Once you get everything stitched together to your satisfaction, crop
   it down and resize to a standard size you can live with and stick with.
   I'm saving 7" sleeves at 400x400 and CD sleeves and cassette inserts
   at 300 pixels.  Will probably do LP sleeves at 500x500...

Adobe ImageReady is great for getting a good balance between size and image
quality when going from BMP down to GIF or JPG.

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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I know this one!
Date: 14 Aug 1998 00:21:10 -0700



>"Do it again, just a little bit slower
>Do it again, just a little bit slower
>I just can't stand it when it's over (over)
>Oh, do it again....   just a little bit slooower....."
>
>I have a beat up copy of this on Abnak Records.  It is by Jon & Robin and
>the In Crowd and it made the Top 40.  You are right about the title.

Aah, Jon and Robin and the In Crowd.  Those words hit me like lightning.

Of course, since I posted this question this afternoon, the song has been
going through my head all day.  Not a pretty picture.

Now, if I can find the record, and get hold of some space-food sticks and
grape tang, I'm all set.

Dave


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From: James G <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Jack & Julie
Date: 14 Aug 1998 01:49:51 -0700


Since someone inadvertently brought up smilin' Jack Webb, I thought I'd
express the amazement I felt after recently discovering that he was
married to jaw-droppingly spectacular 50's torch babe Julie London for a
while and had two kids with her. Apparently the marriage was stormy, but
imagine the make-up lovin.....The URL below has MP3's of his album and
lotsa other stuff on Jack, for the curious only.

http://209.132.63.228/zimot/bio.html


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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Zou Zou
Date: 14 Aug 1998 10:53:28 +0200


Ton Rueckert wrote:
>
> Just scored my first Esquivel, hurah. However,
> it's not an LP, it's the CD Cabaret Manana, $3.50...
> I was shopping in the mall not far from where I live,
> and passed through the music department, a place I
> usually carefully avoid.

Hey Ton,

I bet you found it at V&D.....

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Eve Boswell, Nino Ferrer obits
Date: 14 Aug 1998 09:49:22 -0500


    DURBAN, South Africa (AP) -- Eve Boswell, the glamorous Hungarian-born
singing star who dominated British pop charts in the 1950s, died Thursday of
a heart attack. She was 76.
    Her hits included ``Again,'' ``Sugar Bush,'' ``Blue Star,''``Young and
Foolish,'' and ``Picking a Chicken.'
    Born Eva Keleti in Budapest, she came from a show-business family and as a
child made her stage debut with the family's variety act, The Three Hugo's.
    Boswell moved to Britain and also sang with Geraldo's Orchestra at the
Winter Gardens, Blackpool.

    CAHORS, France (AP) -- Nino Ferrer, a popular French singer for three
decades, committed suicide Thursday. He was to turn 64 on Saturday.
    Police said Ferrer shot himself with a hunting rifle. His body was found
next to his car parked in a field near the town of Saint-Cyprien.
    Famous for his gravelly voice, nostalgic lyrics and puns, Ferrer hit the
top of the charts with ``Le Sud,'' ``Mirza,'' ``Les Cornichons'' and ``Le
Telefon.''
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From: [e-mail] (Hess Jeffery)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hawaiian birthday boy
Date: 14 Aug 1998 09:10:24 -0500



Robert writes:

><< Evil medallions and all. >>
>
>wasn't it an evil tiki???
>
>let's  keep it exotic.


Oh yeah, I forgot evil medallions belong on the Dungeons and Dragons
list.


Jeff

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Esquivel & His Orchestra '56-Exploring New Sounds in Sonorama
Date: 14 Aug 1998 07:27:33 -0700 (PDT)


http://www.dustygroove.com has this Esquivel album for sale, its on
RCA Spain.  Can anyone give me any information on this?

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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Do it Again
Date: 14 Aug 1998 15:27:13 +0100


Dave wrote:

>Can't help, but this led me to remember a song from my
>childhood that I couldn't remember the name or artist of.  It was
>a 45, and I believe it was a Christian group, but considering the
>song, it wouldn't surprise me if I was wrong.

There's also super sexy April Stevens song called "Do It Again" -
which you should check out...


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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Death of the Day
Date: 14 Aug 1998 15:27:13 +0100


Lou wrote:

>While I bet Ghoul Poolsters have a DotD mailing list, I get 'em
>from Clarinet's clari.news.obituaries newsgroup. I think it's worth
>remembering that most of the archetypes and objects we hold
>dear originated with actual (until recently) living people.

I think the reason people are starting to get a little worried about
you is that *all* you ever seem to post is obits!

I have been thinking more and more recently that I would like to
see less of them posted: this isn't an obit mailing list and as you
have pointed out there are newsgroups where people can go if they
really want to keep on top of who's died today...

I believe it's important to know when any of the "greats" passes
away (eg: Les Baxter) but surely not every last ukele player...


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Subject: (exotica) Enoch Light Birthday, Scottish Style
Date: 14 Aug 1998 15:27:14 +0100


Just to let those of you within flying distance of Glasgow that I'll be
leading the celebrations at the first Enoch Light birthday party to be
held in Scotland this weekend.

The details:

Time:    8-11pm
Venue:    Russells, Byres Road, Glasgow
How much:    Free!

The Spaced Out website curator finally gets his act together to
bring you three hours of Light and Light-related music, together
with videos and (hopefully) a slide-show.


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel & His Orchestra '56-Exploring New Sounds
Date: 14 Aug 1998 10:51:19 -0400


At 7:27 AM -0700 8/14/98, chuck wrote:
>http://www.dustygroove.com has this Esquivel album for sale, its on
>RCA Spain.  Can anyone give me any information on this?

It's the "To Love Again" album, originally released on RCA (U.S. and
Mexico) in 1957. They incorrectly credit the recordings to 1956; in fact,
the album is a collection of recordings originally released on 45's and
78's in Mexico, between 1954 and 1957. All the arrangements are in the
Sonorama style. Personally, I think these recordings are great, as they
capture the roots of Esquivel's vision and style.

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Puente, Cugat, Abbe Lane
Date: 14 Aug 1998 08:54:34 -0700 (PDT)


This album really is 5 stars.  I got it some time ago and think Abbe's
voice is the sexiest.   I once made a cassette with Prez Prado's
version of Anna and edited in Abbe Lane's version into the middle- wow
-It makes you get up a dance.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck

[e-mail] wrote:
>>But, I've been listening recently to an astoundingly) excellent
vinyl compilation of Cugat and Abbe Lane.
>
> >Chris, could you give us the details on this one?
>
> I'll try, but it's kind of an odd one.  The title is just "Xavier
> Cugat/Abbe Lane."  Of course, I was initially disappointed when I
realized
> that it wasn't tracks of them together.  But, then I discovered that
the
> Tito Puente-backed Lane tracks were hot hot hot ...
>
> Anyway, it's RCA NL42732, on the Lineatre label
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Easy Project
Date: 14 Aug 1998 15:58:38 +0200


Peter Risser <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Are the Easy Project and Easy Project II out of print?
>What label where they on?

The easy project - 20 loungecore favourites
    CD, Sequel NEM CD 772, UK, 1995
    CD, Sequel 1011-2, USA, 1996
The easy project 2 - House of loungecore
    CD, Sequel NEMCD 842, UK, 1996

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Subject: (exotica) Re: France Gall (was: Serge Gainsbourg)
Date: 14 Aug 1998 19:44:55 +0200


Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I recently bought "1968" by France Gall. Very hip indeed!

    i've only got 1 lp by her, "France Gall", a comp from 1989.
    i think it's on cd as Philips 839 627, from France. the 2
    best songs, ("jazz a gogo" and "le coeur qui jazze") are also
    featured on some recent italian comps (probably the "Mood Mosaic")
    the other songs on that France Gall comp are nice, but non as hip and
    jazzzzzzzzzy as those 2 mentioned, and i wonder if the "1968" has
    more of those. here's the track list for that "France Gall" lp:

Bebe Requin
Jazz a Gogo
Ne sois pas si bete
Sacre Charlemagne
Teenie Weenie Boppie
Les Rubans et la Fleur
Christiansen
Nous ne sommes pas des Anges
L'Amerique
Poupee de cire, Poupee de son
Les Sucettes
Baby Pop
N'ecoute pas les Idoles
Le Coeur qui jazze
Attends ou va t'en
Laisse tomber les Filles
Pense a moi
Ne dis pas aux Copains

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From: Irwin Chusid <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) looking for label info
Date: 14 Aug 1998 14:14:51 -0400


A friend in Holland sent me the following.

> I have been looking for a fax
> and phone number of No Limits Records, owned by Master P.

Can anyone help?

Please reply to me directly, not to the list.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) scanning an album cover
Date: 14 Aug 1998 14:44:35 -0400


If you're doing this for the web, bear in mind that anything more than 72dpi is
pointless. If you're just doing it for "local" use, your drive-space is the
only boss you have to answer to.

That said, I scan at 300dpi, full-size, because, for my setup at least, that
makes for the best scan. This also makes for mammoth files larger than 10meg,
so I do a minimum of work at that size (cropping, retouching), then reduce it
to 72dpi and the appropriate size for the job (I think on the "Tot Tunes" page
I made them a bit over 200 pixels wide). This ol' 486 machine always sighs with
relief at that point.

After reduction, I do more tweaking, especially a bit of sharpening (I've never
blurred -- things always look blurry enough to me to begin with) -- though if
you sharpen too much, you can make things look jaggedy. I usually brighten
things up a bit as the last step, because graphics sometimes wind up looking
darker by the time they go through a browser.

I think the key thing is to get a good feel for tweaking the settings in your
scanner program -- it's the first step, so the better you can get things there,
the less tweaking you'll have to do in your image editor.

*Generally* -- for images that have large, solid-color areas (like early Enoch
Light covers!) the GIF format will make for a smaller file. For photograph-type
images, the JPG format will make for a smaller file -- I usually go for medium
quality (the images for the "Tot Tunes" page averaged around 17 or 18K in the
end, JPG format).

My 8 1/2" by (slightly over) 11" scanner bed means that to do an album cover, I
have to do 4 scans and splice them together. As a result, I've only done it a
couple of times. It's a royal pain, but that's the way it goes.

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From: Mark Benton Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Death of the Day
Date: 14 Aug 1998 14:04:47 -0400


While someone may not be a major to you, he may be someone **I** have
idolized.  Personally, I like to read the "obits", because odds are, my daily
newspaper (of which I am a former employee) won't carry them.

This is a newsgroup on exotic music.  I subscribe because I receive wonderful
e-mail (lots of it the past month) about music and events which I would never
come across otherwise. Unfortunately, those events are sometimes deaths.

Mark Reed
Phenix City AL


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> I have been thinking more and more recently that I would like to
> see less of them posted: this isn't an obit mailing list and as you
> have pointed out there are newsgroups where people can go if they
> really want to keep on top of who's died today...
>
> I believe it's important to know when any of the "greats" passes
> away (eg: Les Baxter) but surely not every last ukele player...
>
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) scanning an album cover
Date: 14 Aug 1998 20:09:19 +0100


Flatbed scanners are the best choice, but you can still
do quite acceptable scans with a handheld scanner.  I made
a scanning frame from a sheet of cardboard 18x24, with
an inset square hole just larger than a sleeve. The sleeve
then nestles into this hole, so that the top of the sleeve
and the frame are about level.  You can cut a length of
smooth timber 1 by 1/2" for a guide rail, sliding the
scanner against it.  You can  mark on the frame top and
bottom where to put the timber so that you make four
vertical scans, each with about 1/2" overlap.  My ancient
graphics software, Photomagic by Micrografx, will then
do all the matching and stitching together.

CD inlays are much easier, needing only two passes of
the scanner.  Although they are not square like album
sleeves, if you resize them square they don't look odd.

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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Self promotion
Date: 14 Aug 1998 14:39:03 PDT


Aloha!
It's a lousy webaddress, but at this address:
http://home3.swipnet.se/~w-35644/bellybongo/index.html
you will find a site called "Tiki Island".

20 of my tiki drawings is displayed there. More will come.

Thanks to Ulf for providing the space.

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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Death of the Day
Date: 15 Aug 1998 00:36:04 +0100


Mark Benton Reed wrote:

>While someone may not be a major to you, he may be someone
>**I** have idolized.

OK, no need to get steamed up - we are all entitled to our own
opinion, you know!

>Personally, I like to read the "obits",
>because odds are, my daily newspaper (of which I am a former
>employee) won't carry them.

This is the internet.  Aside from the alt.obituaries newsgroup, I'm
sure there must be dozens of websites you could visit to find out
this info: most of the world's major newspapers do have websites.


Robbie

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Death of the Day
Date: 14 Aug 1998 20:12:09 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-14 19:40:30 EDT, you write:

<< This is the internet.  Aside from the alt.obituaries newsgroup, I'm
 sure there must be dozens of websites you could visit to find out
 this info: most of the world's major newspapers do have websites.


 Robbie

 PS    Please don't send me a copy of what you email to the list -
     that's what I subscribe to the list for...
  >>

As Curly says:   "The morbid the merrier."

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend scores
Date: 14 Aug 1998 23:20:58 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-11 13:10:01 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Now THAT'S what thrifting is all about!  It's too bad folks get discouraged
 if they don't score like you did the go-round.

 Congratulations on a great shopping day, and by the way...
 THIS is what all thrift-score list should look like! The details
 given should interest even those who don't care for thrifting
 lists. >>

I BELIEVE he said these were scored at a flea market - exactly where I score
all my albums - NOT a thrift store.  That's why he got so many good ones in
one haul!  That's not to say it isn't possible to score at a thrift like that,
but it is more than guaranteed at a flea market then at a thrift!

I agree , his descriptions are very useful.  Ive added a few of those to my
list for the next record swap!

- Michele


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Subject: (exotica) Obit referendum
Date: 15 Aug 1998 01:36:47 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-14 14:46:19 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< While someone may not be a major to you, he may be someone **I** have
 idolized.   >>

Do we have to have a referendum on this or what?

Here's my vote:  I have absolutely no problems reading about deaths that are
exotica/lounge-related - if I don't know the guy or care, I will use the
delete key - but I'd like the option to read or not read and I can't, if you
stop posting them.

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) It's DOCTOR Buzzard to you!
Date: 15 Aug 1998 01:36:42 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-13 02:16:39 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< >The original 12" version of "There But For The Grace Of God Go I"
 >by Machine fetches a hefty price on the vinyl market these days
 An underrated disco classic! >>

Yeah, this is a totally awesome disco song - I bought this 12 inch off a DJ
about 8 (?) years ago, the cover wasn't in very good condition but the vinyl
was.  I paid $7.  So what is the thing worth today and why is it worth so
much?

- Michele


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Obit referendum
Date: 15 Aug 1998 07:07:35 +0100



As they invariably have useful information in them,
I'd like the publishing of obituaries to carry on, please.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Obit referendum
Date: 14 Aug 1998 23:49:40 -0700


At 07:07 AM 8/15/98 +0100, Hugh Petfield wrote:
>
>As they invariably have useful information in them,
>I'd like the publishing of obituaries to carry on, please.

I agree with Hugh.  Keep posting the obituaries.

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From: "paul m." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Obit referendum
Date: 15 Aug 1998 02:02:10 -0800


>Here's my vote:  I have absolutely no problems reading about deaths that are
>exotica/lounge-related - if I don't know the guy or care, I will use the

cast my vote in this same direction.  personally i find even the two liner
obits
interesting.


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Subject: (exotica) This ain't no democracy
Date: 15 Aug 1998 08:53:53 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-15 05:03:39 EDT, you write:

<< cast my vote in this same direction. >>

what is with this voting on all the issues?  post what ever you want -- my
little delete button works just fine.

or maybe i am being too hasty.  so what do you think?  please email me with
your vote.

caucusly,

robert


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) About obits
Date: 15 Aug 1998 09:09:06 +0000


I like them, because it brings people's contributions to light.  And who is
to say who is obscure?  Had Esquivel died in 1976, how many less among us
would have known who he was?
Brian Phillips
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Subject: (exotica) Another Obit
Date: 15 Aug 1998 09:36:30 EDT


HONOLULU, HI (August 14, 1998) UPI - Jeffery "Catch" Ketchamori, longtime
steel guitar player and stage hand for Don Ho, died today in Honolulu.  Deputy
Coroner  Eue Gochago of the Honolulu  CoronerÆs Office described the freak
accident that claimed KetchamoriÆs life.   "The accident occurred when a
stucco wall made to look like lava rock fell on Ketchamori at Don HoÆs studio
on Wikiki Beach", Gochago described to reporters yesterday afternoon.  An
investigation is being made into the proper installation of the wal which was
only 2 months old.

"Catch" got his start in 1954 when he ascended from his position as bartender
at Don the Beachcomer's Dagger Bar to ukulele player and later steel guitar
player in the various house bands.  He got the nickname "Catch" partly from
his last name and because he would throw the cocktail shakers in the air and
"catch" them.  In the 1960 tragedy stuck when "Catch" suffered a stroke which
paralyzed his right side and thus ended his performing career.

Long time friend Don Ho hired "Catch" to manage the stage show productions at
his famous Bubble Room which entertained thousands of tourists vacationing in
Hawaii in the late 1960Æs and 1970Æs.  Even with CatchÆs physical limitations,
he still worked diligently and is credited with starting Don Ho singing the
"Magic Bubbles" signature tune.

     "Catch" explained to Mr. Ho in 1957, "That Welk guy ainÆt got no monopoly
on bubbles.  If they worked for him they can work for us.  People really like
bubbles!"  Ho was eternally grateful to Ketchamori for the inspiration and
would call him out at the end of each show. Even with his physical
limitations, Ketchamori would always bow gracefully to the audience and say,
"YouÆre welcome for the bubbles!"

Ketchamori is survived by his wife of 38 years, Karen "Squeak" Ketchamori, 3
sons and 6 grandchildren.  Burial was at the Kummiwani Memorial Gardens on
Maui.  In fond memory of his contribution to the Don Ho Show, Mr. Ho did a
grave side dedicated of head stone which pictured a little champagne glass
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Easy Project
Date: 15 Aug 1998 14:47:51 +0200


>>Are the Easy Project and Easy Project II out of print?

Mark B. Conklin" <[e-mail]> replied:

>IMO, neither volume is as good as the Sound Gallery's, Sound Spectrum or
>the Music for TV Dinners compilations

    i haven't heard the Music for TV Dinners, but i liked both
    Easy Project vol 1 & 2 better than the Sound Gallery, and
    certainly better than Sound Spectrum, which i find very very
    weak at moments... Easy Project has more of a "spy" sound...

        Johan


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Subject: (exotica) KUSF Record Swap
Date: 15 Aug 1998 10:06:47 EDT


Is the KUSF record swap this Sunday (Aug. 16) or next Sunday (Aug. 23)?

Thanks
Gloria


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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ira Ironstrings
Date: 15 Aug 1998 07:45:07


Does anyone know who Ira Ironstrings really was?

Along the same lines, I just learned that Fritz Guckheimer of the
Guckheimer Sauer Kraut Band, a parody polka band from the late 50s, was
actually Richard Gump, president of Gump's, which is kind of the Tiffany's
of San Francisco.

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Recent Stuff
Date: 15 Aug 1998 11:15:52 -0400


A few recent finds. . . .

_Dee-Lightful_, Lenny Dee (Decca). Yes, it's the Dawn of Dee! This has the
song "Plantation Boogie" which I think was his first hit. That one
rocks--but for my money the goofily exotic "Siboney" is even better, full
of that "ooka-ucka" Hammond rhythm that became such a Dee trademark.

_Songs Everybody Knows_, Lenny Dee (Decca). This one has a plodding
guitar/bass/drums rhythm combo behind the organ--even banjo--and it all
seems to straightjacket Lenny from cutting loose. Somehow it ends up
seeming a bit more cornball than other Dee albums--probably for completists
only.

_White Heat_, Henri Rene (Imperial). Grabbed this because there's a decent
Henri Rene cut on Rhino's Cocktail Mix vol. 1--but it turns out this one is
fairly normal big-band swing. I mean, it's pretty energetic if you like
that kind of thing, but the only exotica content is that there are some
eccentric percussion flourishes here and there.

_Ferrante and Teicher With Percussion_ (ABC-Paramount). With both prepared
piano AND percussion, I expected I'd be in heaven with this one--but it's
really more musical and less experimental than the awesome _Dynamic Twin
Pianos_. Still there are 3 or 4 entertaining tunes on this one, like
"Beyond the Blue Horizon."

_Call of the Midnight Sun_, Arthur Lyman (Hi Fi Records). I'm afraid this
is probably my least favorite Lyman LP so far. . . they do weird songs like
"Hello Dolly," "500 Miles," and "Get me to the Church on Time". . . and the
energy level is extremely subdued--I started to wonder if this was
deliberately supposed to be a "make-out" record? But there's a nice version
of "Black Orchid," so it's still a keeper.

_Fred Lowery Whistles Your Gospel Favorites_ (Word). Oh mercy. Here we have
this guy twittering his brains out like a nightingale--and on some tracks
they mix in even *more* real bird songs--over top of murky, funereal organ
playing. I think this one goes in the category of "music to clear people
out at the end of the party". . .

_South American Nights_, Harmonicats (Mercury). I've noticed that even
somewhat boring artists can perk up and play interesting music when they
"go latin"--and that's certainly true here. Especially when the 'cats tear
into "Mambo Jambo" at top speed. One quibble is that this recording seems
really deficient in bass--and if you can't hear 265-pound Al Fiore grunting
away on the bass harmonica, really what is the point?

_Living Guitars Play... [Spanish Fireball, etc.]_, (RCA Camden). These
Living Guitars LPs usually have a cut or two that are pretty good; I like
"Baby Elepant Walk," and you can never own too many versions of "Ritual
Fire Dance." But they never seem to be able to make up their minds whether
to play Ventures-ish teen beat music, or to revert back to playing jazz
like they really want to. . .

_Passionate Percussion_, Don Catelli and the All Stars (Directional Sound).
Well, these guys can lay down a nice tight latin rhythm, and they certainly
don't skimp on the bongoes and marimbas. But the rest of the arrangements
seem a little tossed together--the melody lines getting a little lost in
the process. The best track is an echoey, exotic "Taboo."  I do kind of
wonder what the deal was with "Directional Stereo," which was the Hi-Fi
label for Premier--who I mostly associate with low-grade budget labels
(Parade, Coronet). Directional did manage to put out at least one LP I
really love, _Latin Brass_ by John Evans and the Big Band.

_Bacharach Baroque_, "Snuff" Garrett, producer; Al Capps, arranger
(Ranwood). Oh yeah! What the world needs now is more harpsichord versions
of "I Say a Little Prayer," where perky singers go "ba-da ba-da ba-da!"
endlessly instead of singing the words. Although at the end of 30 minutes
of ba-da ba-da's, I started to feel really strange, like a stroke victim
who had lost the brain center for understanding speech. . .

Doo-ba doo-ba doo-ba,

 --Ross

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Obit referendum/post replies
Date: 15 Aug 1998 12:14:03 EDT


I would like to chime in here, and say that I am in the camp that would like
to see you continue to post the obits.  It is sad when someone who has brought
me joy passes, but it is sadder still when I do not find out about it until
years later.

PS. My apologies to the lister I sent this message to.  I meant to post it to
the group.

Do any of the rest of you ever accidentally respond directly to someone when
intending to post to the list?  All of the other lists I have ever been on
automatically send replies to the list, whereas this one automatically sends
them to the address of the person who posted the message one replies to.  I
often catch myself (or don't catch myself) sending my reply to the wrong
place.  I will try to do better.

Larry


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Recent Stuff
Date: 15 Aug 1998 12:20:27 EDT


In a message dated 8/15/98 11:16:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> _Ferrante and Teicher With Percussion_ (ABC-Paramount). With both prepared
>  piano AND percussion, I expected I'd be in heaven with this one--but it's
>  really more musical and less experimental than the awesome _Dynamic Twin
>  Pianos_. Still there are 3 or 4 entertaining tunes on this one, like
>  "Beyond the Blue Horizon."

I love this album, but I do agree with you that Blue Horizon is the best song
on the album.

Larry


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Date: 15 Aug 1998 12:34:50 EDT




<<
 _Fred Lowery Whistles Your Gospel Favorites_ (Word). Oh mercy. Here we have
 this guy twittering his brains out like a nightingale--and on some tracks
 they mix in even *more* real bird songs--over top of murky, funereal organ
 playing. I think this one goes in the category of "music to clear people
 out at the end of the party". . . >>

Ross -

I would be happy to purchase this record from you if you would be interested
in selling.

If so, please give me a cover / vinyl grade and asking price.

thanks,

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Subject: Re: (exotica)turntable advice and  Recent Stuff
Date: 15 Aug 1998 13:23:17 -0400


At 11:15 AM 15/08/98 -0400, Ross Orr wrote:
>
>_White Heat_, Henri Rene (Imperial). Grabbed this because there's a decent
>Henri Rene cut on Rhino's Cocktail Mix vol. 1--but it turns out this one is
>fairly normal big-band swing. I mean, it's pretty energetic if you like
>that kind of thing, but the only exotica content is that there are some
>eccentric percussion flourishes here and there.

Well I know for myself that I could never pass up any record called "White
Heat" but yeah Henri is hit-and-miss.

Of all the Henri records I've found, I kept "Riot in Rhythm" and
"Compulsion to Swing", both on RCA.  My turntable just broke so I can't go
and remind myself why I kept them.  I'm pretty sure that the Henri cuts on
one of the earlyish lounge compilations - can't remember which one - comes
from the Compulsion record.

And what record accumulator can pass up a record with the word "Compulsion"
in the title?

I kept Henri's record "Music for the Weaker Sex" but it's in my section
with cool covers and the like.  The music is tepid... just like the weaker
sex apparently wanted it.. or according to Henri anyway.

I think Henri is another guy like Marty Gold or Henry Jerome or even Pete
Rugolo or Nelson Riddle, a professional arranger who was all over the map
and so almost by default ended up making a few records that I could like.

But speaking of my turntable that just died... I have a question on belt
drive versus direct drive.  My turntable is a belt drive Technics, the only
piece of my original 1975 FIRST STEREO system that still survives.  The
idea of getting it fixed appeals to me on that basis alone.

On the other hand, I have a feeling I broke the belt because of my practice
of spinning the turntable backwards when I make a tape.  I've been told
that belt drive turntables are just not made for backspin.

If I decide to replace it, I won't be spending much outside the $150 range
but can anyone suggest whether maybe a guy who makes tapes almost as often
as he just sits down and listens to a record, should maybe switch to a
direct drive?

And by the way, I was halfway through making a tape for some people on this
list when the turntable broke.  Does that mean anything?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) post replies / The Bat
Date: 15 Aug 1998 14:53:16 -0400


> Do any of the rest of you ever accidentally respond directly to someone when
> intending to post to the list?  All of the other lists I have ever been on
> automatically send replies to the list, whereas this one automatically sends
> them to the address of the person who posted the message one replies to.

I like the setup just the way it is, because this way, if I make a mistake, it
will most likely be a public message going to one party -- rather than the much
more embarrassing situation of a private message going to the whole group. I
receive "doubles" now and then, but it's no big deal in my book.

Just now, I caught the opening titles of the 1959 version of "The Bat"
(starring Vincent Price & Agnes Moorehead). Cool opening theme -- a swinging
crime jazz piece, featuring steel guitar by Alvino Rey. He was even credited
right there in the opening titles! Did the soundtrack ever make it into
release? Thanks.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Recent Stuff
Date: 15 Aug 1998 11:45:41 +0000


At 11:15 AM 8/15/98 -0400, Ross wrote:Doo-ba doo-ba doo-ba

Which reminds me of a series of three quotes.  The only problem is, I
am not sure of the exact quotes for the first two or who they were
attributed to.  Anyone know?


It goes something like this:


"To do is to be."  --Socrates

"To be is to do."  --John Locke

"Do be do be do."  --Frank Sinatra



Ross, thanks for the informative list of finds.

Byron


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Saturday=thrifting day
Date: 15 Aug 1998 21:58:34 +0100



Three finds today in the Marie Curie Cancer Research Shop.
For a pound ($1.59) I got:

Tijuana Christmas
by The Torero Band
UK Music for pleasure 1968
"The holly & the ivy" etc. done a la Alpert.
Best enjoyed at Yuletide, I guess, when feeling no pain....

Latin Lace
by The George Shearing Quintet.
UK Capitol 1958
Luscious cheesecake sleeve, but music elevatory...
I really wanted to like this, but failed.

Opera without words
by 101 Strings
UK Golden Guinea issued 10/14/59
Catalog number GGL 0001
First issue on this UK budget label. Record sold for
21 shillings (one guinea) which was about $2.45 in
1959.  Normal price records were then =$3.89.
The sleeve for this album, all but 40 years old, had
a postpaid reply card inside, which you could send
off and they'd send you a catalogue of issues.   I so
wanted to send this off, but refrained as I know that
the address was rebuilt into an apartment block
development years ago.
Sigh.

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From: James G <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) High Llamas etc @ broadcast.com
Date: 15 Aug 1998 17:40:16 -0700


Recent Wall St. IPO darling www.broadcast.com is featuring the nice new
High Llamas CD in RealAudio for your on-line listening pleasure.
Broadcast.com has many other CD's of possible interest to the 329, such
as Hefti's Batman, The Saint OST, Ventures' Christmas and some Razor &
Tie reissues. You get to hear the full CD's although you'll have to scan
past a Microsoft commercial, but the changing stuff on this site is
worth a listen while waiting for your favorite webcam to reload
(www.davia.com).

JBG


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Subject: (exotica) Speaking Of Turntables
Date: 15 Aug 1998 21:54:52 EDT


Speaking of buying new turntables, I'm in the market for one also. I checked
out Good Guys at Stonestown (San Francisco) on the 13th, turns out they just
reopened after redoing the whole darn store. They had only 4 turntables. Two
of them were Technics. I've heard that Technics is a good brand. The lowest
priced one was around $149.00 or something like that. I don't want to spend a
ton of money, but I don't want a piece of garbage either. Can someone help
suggest a good one that's not over $200.? Thanks.
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 16
Date: 15 Aug 1998 22:15:15 -0400


"Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl.  Space Bop features
music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier!
Comments & questions welcome.

Space Bop #11 - Electro-pop

Der Plan:  Uin Uin Moon Kona Bub Uin  "City Space" (AtaTak)

Dimitri From Paris:  Contact (Dimitri's Old Skool Flava)  "Pizzicato 5:
Remix Album: Happy End Of You" (Matador)

Toon:  Esprit de Paris  "Electric City" (AtaTak)

Amon Tobin:  Escape  "Permutation" (Ninja Tune)

Mouse On Mars:  Bid  "Electric City" (AtaTak)

A Certain Frank:  Kismet  "No End" (AtaTak)

Muslimgauze:  Bazoft Rope  "Vote Hezbollah" (Soleilmoon)

Antonelli Electr:  Schuechtern & Yellow  "Peng Peng Baby" (Stewardess)

Andreas Dorau:  Lass uns brennen  "70 minuten musik ungeklarter
herkunft" (Motor)

Fantastic Plastic Machine:  Pura Saudade <Laxmikant>  "Fantastic Plastic
Machine" (Bungalow)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 15 Aug 1998 21:10:20 +0000


This has been sitting on my computer "desktop" for reply for a while.
Finally getting a round tuit. :)

>> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
I don't think anyone who's heard me would say so.  I can read music, play
keyboards and have sung in choirs...all for personal enjoyment and quite
novice level.  Even in that, I have been inactive for several years until I
can round up a house fit for a good piano.  Also, I have been thinking of
learning
the marimba.  I like buying little keyboards (toys and midi-compatible
stuff) with the idea that I might eventually mess around with them for some
sort of recording. None of that makes me a musician.
>
>> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

Actually, it was reading about that focussed my attentions.  I have always
bought or enjoyed off the norm music, but until I read about it in some
magazines and then, especially, Incredibly Strange Music vol. 1 and 2.
Once I learned what others were into, I started scrounging my collection.
"Oh, I remember taping something from All Things Considered about Esquivel
two years ago."  "Oh, where are those Dick Hyman moog albums?"  Seems I was
into this before I knew I was.


>> 3. This list could help you more by...
continuing to give information about old and new releases that I can't find
elsewhere...generally doing what it is doing.

>
>> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
Most recently I have been finding representations of hula girls: three
plastic ones, each with a different colored grass skirt, but all the girls
were light skinned...then a more authentic hula girl with a real grass
skirt.  I also like those wooden carvings from the Philippeans (just wish I
could spell it correctly!).  I also like cheap colorful oil paintings (more
geometical than realistic), older computers, Modern Library books, laser
disks,  Atari video games, Haywood-Wakefield furniture, Ballerina (by
Universal) Harlequin (by Homer-Laughlin) and Russel Wright dishes, black
wire furniture... the list goes on.  I am partial to solid colored casual
men's long sleeved shirts, the ones with those little fabric loops meant to
go to the top button (the ones no one ever uses).  I already have a great
collection of men's ties and haven't seen the necessity to add to them
recently (at least, not at the prices you have to pay in Portland).
>
>> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like:

Neil Diamond, Melissa Etheridge, Manhattan Transfer, Suzanne Vega, Marcia
Ball, Margie Adam, Diane Kral.
>
>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

Whatever that might be, I won't hold back, if you haven't noticed.

>
>> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? What about 45?  78?  cassette?  8-track?
reel to reel?  It really depends.  I do enjoy the full platter nature of the
CD, the lack of noise and random tracking possibilities...but I have
encountered so many less than acceptable masterings that often LP noise can
be ignored for a more fuller sound.  Also, a mint condition LP from the
late 50's and early 60's is such a joy: thick vinyl, wonderful sound
quality and great images and liner notes.  I also enjoy the aesthetics of
keeping Lps in good condition while also playing them.  And, of course, I
can often find more of what I need for far less money by buying used Lps
than by buying just 1 CD.  Right now, I guess I could say I am pro-Lp.
>
>> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
>> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
I do have a quite elaborately stitched smoking jacket.  I don't smoke
unless set on fire or solder myself accidentially.  Luckilly that hasn't
happened since I was ten years old.

>
>> 9. Shaken or stirred?
I also rarely drink alcohol. I have a martini glass set more for the visual
sense than anything.  I only had my first real martini (vodka, shaken) a
month or so ago.  I was very nice and there were absolutely no negative
repercussions...but I plan to limit such experiences to only special
occasions.


>
>> 10. I clean my LPs with ...
1. disc washer brush if minor dust.
2. "Joy" or similar dishwashing liquid and cold to lukewarm tap water, towel
dried.
3. Easy to remove stickers on album covers removed by fingernail, but
difficult to remove stickers and left-over adhesive removed by lighter fluid.
Markers made on slick covered LPs removed by damp cloth...otherwise I live
with the results.

>
>> 11. My home page URL is:
http://www.hubris.net/zolac

>
>> 12. I have a Licence To ...
operate an amateur radio station and
another to drive a car, but neither is being used much any more until
I get that house.

Thanks for asking!  I have enjoyed reading the responses from others.

Byron

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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: France Gall
Date: 16 Aug 1998 12:23:19 +0200


Johan Dada Vis wrote:
>
>         i've only got 1 lp by her, "France Gall", a comp from 1989.
>         i think it's on cd as Philips 839 627, from France. the 2
>         best songs, ("jazz a gogo" and "le coeur qui jazze") are also
>         featured on some recent italian comps (probably the "Mood Mosaic")
>         the other songs on that France Gall comp are nice, but non as hip and
>         jazzzzzzzzzy as those 2 mentioned, and i wonder if the "1968" has
>         more of those.


Well, '1968' is the only France Gall album that I know, so I can't say
how it compares to other albums/songs. I like it very much though. Nice
packaging and some great songs.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update
Date: 16 Aug 1998 14:58:41 +0200


A new update to the eXotica Releases Overview is available.
These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced
here:




          - August 16: new (1998) releases & announcements -


* Goblin: "Original Soundtracks Volume 2"
      CD, DRG, USA/Italy?, 1998?

* Goblin: "Original Soundtracks Volume 3"
      CD, DRG, USA/Italy?, 1998?

* Jack McDuff: "Legends Of Acid Jazz"
      CD, Ace PRCD 24184, UK, 1998?

* Soundtrack: "Last Tango In Paris"  (Le Dernier Tango A Paris)
  [by Gato Barbieri]
      CD, Ryko 10724, USA, 1998?

* Soundtrack: "Superfly/Short Eyes" [by Curtis Mayfield]
      Double CD, Sequel NEM 964, UK, 1998

* Santo & Johnny: "I Grande Successi"
      CD, BMG, Europe, 1998

* Various Artists: "Arriva La Bomba"
      CD, Irma Douce 811, Italy, 1998

* Various Artists: "Best Of The West"
  (MGM Soundtracks Presents Great Western Movie Themes)
      CD, Ryko RCD 10721, USA, 1998

* Various Artists: "Easy Tempo Experience"
      3LP, Right Tempo/Easy Tempo MET401/403, Italy, 1998

* Various Artists: "Mojo Club Presents Dancefloor Jazz Vol. 7"
      LP/CD, Motor 565195, Germany, 1998

* Various Artists: "The Avengers And Other Great Original TV Themes"
      CD, Sequel, UK, To Be Released, 1998






          - August 16: old but interesting finds I stumbled on -


* Burt Bacharach/Hal David: "The Connoisseur Songbook"
      CD, ? VSO 128, Distrib. Rough Trade, UK?, 199?

* The Champs: "Tequila"
      CD, Ace 227, UK, 199?

* Jack Costanzo: "Mr. Bongo Plays Cha Cha Cha"
      CD, Palladium, Europe Or Japan?, 199?

* Richard "Groove" Holmes: "Legends Of Acid Jazz"
      CD, Ace PRCD 24187, UK, 199?

* Antonio Carlos Jobim: "Rio Revisited."
      CD, ?, USA, 199?

* L'Amigamore: "Tanzmusik Aus Der DDR"
      CD, ? LCD 034, Rough Trade Distribution, ?, 199?

* Hector Rivera: "At The Party With Hector Rivera"
      CD, ? BGP 082, Rough Trade Distribution, ?, 199?

* The Swingle Singers: "A Capella Amadeus"
      CD, ?, USA?, 199?

* The Swingle Singers: "Anyone For Mozart, Bach, Handel, Vivaldi?"
      CD, ?, USA?, 199?

* The Swingle Singers: "Bach Hits Back"
      CD, ?, USA?, 199?

* Les Swingle Singers: "Jazz Sebastian Bach"
      CD, ?, USA?, 199?

* Cal Tjader: "Cal Tjader Plugs In"
      CD, DCC DJZ 622, USA, 199?

* Cal Tjader: "Latin+Jazz=Cal Tjader"
      CD, DCC DJZ 604, USA, 199?

* Cal Tjader: "Solar Heat"
      CD, DCC DJZ 618, USA, 199?

* Various Artists: "And Now A Word From Our Sponsors 1"
  (Radio And TV Commercials)
      CD, East Anglian Productions, UK, 1996

* Various Artists: "And Now A Word From Our Sponsors 2"
  (Radio And TV Commercials)
      CD, East Anglian Productions, UK, 1996

* Various Artists: "Caribbean Revels: Haitian Rara And Dominican Gaga"
      CD, Smithsonian Folkways SF 40402, USA, 1995?

* Various Artists: "Great Cola Commercials 1"
      CD, Probably A Bootleg, UK?, 1996

* Various Artists: "Great Cola Commercials 2"
      CD, Probably A Bootleg, UK?, 1996

* Various Artists: "Monster Rock 'N' Roll Show"
      CD, DCC DZS-050, USA, 1990

* Klaus Wunderlich: "A Tribute To John Lennon & Paul McCartney"
      CD, Pye NSP 505, UK, 199?

* Klaus Wunderlich: "Keys For Lovers"
      CD, Pye NSP 507, UK, 199?

* Klaus Wunderlich: "Klaus Wunderlich Plays Abba"
      CD, Pye NSP 506, UK, 199?

* Zacherley: "Zacherley's Dead Man's Ball"
      CD, Tristique, USA, 1995






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        "Dada'quariums Exotica": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/

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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Flashbacks
Date: 14 Aug 1998 08:45:04 -0400


> And what space age child can forget Tang, the breakfast of astronauts?
> I seem to recall it came in both orange and purple flavors.
>
Oh yes!  Orange and grape.  Still available...

Particularly delicious directly out of the jar, sans H2O.

crunch

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From: Marcus Kozica <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Coral It's A Decca Thing -aka- Cantabrian Tikis
Date: 16 Aug 1998 17:52:14 +0200


So,

     First of all; scanning a cover to put it on the Web:

   __RESOLUTION__ is 72 dpi for an ordinary SCREEN....

            BUT!!!!

       -------> SIZE is what YOU have to choose (in pixels.)

*scan at 300 _dpi_ (or some other high resolution)
*edit whatever you wanna edit
*re-sample at _72 dpi_
*re-size to 400*400 _pixels_ (or whatever size you want)
*tag it to your page
*VOILA


I Went to Spain this summer and I just got back, it was like a big
(HUGE) California with zero cheese factor.

Enough of that -

         While walking along the empty streets of Madrid during the
all too slow Siesta (Swedes don't do Siestas we HIBERNATE!)
OF COURSE I STUMBLE ACROSS A TTIIKKII BAAAAAAR.

They call them selves "Bora-Bora POLINESIAN BAR COCTELES
TROPICALES" and they're located at calle Ventura Rodri'guez #5,
just off Plaza Madrid (within walking distance from Sol.)

'F course they're closed but I made sure I was there when they
opened! What can I say - Cool service, Cool setting from 1973
(it looked VERY 60ish) TIKI waterfalls, Cool furniture, Cool
TIKI mugs, Cool DRINKS - my first came w/ liquid nitrogen or
something like that - the whole table was covered in steam -
While This guy was drinking! Out of a 3 foot drinking straw!

   In the lobby they had a little gallery of old TIKI mugs and other
items like model ships, photos...

      Since I don't speak Spanish I had a hard time making any
conversation w/ the staff - They only had a 80's CD with hawaiian
music so when I told them I could send them some tapes w/ you
know what... They treated me very nice and gave me some of their
own "Bora-Bora" mugs and some worn SUPER COOL Drink menus!
As souvenirs.

    As it got later I got pretty filled up... (they didn't serve watered

out drinks
I tell you)
My last drink was spiced w/ Cloves and since I didn't understand the
word in Spanish - they came out to the table with a jar of Cloves!
So they made their OWN shit - JESUS CHRIST AND HIS THREE
GOD DAMN QUARTETS!

Later than latest - as I stumbled out to the waiting cab they give me
two addresses -  and of course I was hoping I could go there the next
day but.....
Next day was my last in Madrid and I spent it in ----- BED!
No kidding - I'll never learn how to spell to hung ovre, ehh, hang
uver...

So if in Madrid craving some liquids; bring a tape, a girl and wear a
shirt a la Polinesio (NO ti dyes dudes ?TIKI DYE?) and go to Bora-Bora.

OR:

BAR WAWALAG (????)
SERRANO #85

OR to the:

BAR MAUNALOA
PLAZA SANTA ANA

One of them where, as they said, a Hawaiian Pizza Place -
that's a new thing to me - but rather that - than deep fried pickeled
anchovies or whatever the Spanish people seem to like eating. (In other
words; the food in Spain sucks big time) But as of now at least the
drinks
does not.

Marcus of Sweden.

I have forgotten:

*WHO sung the original Uie Muite song?
*Isn't Sukiyaki a dish?
*Who recorded the original Sleep Walk song?
*The Romantic Lure of... by The Surfmen
   got re-released on Alshire. (Paint your Guitar...) Did The Exotic
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Subject: (exotica) new old records
Date: 16 Aug 1998 15:07:42 +0000


Just who was behind Dialogue for Brass (Columbia CL 1499)?  This album of
12 "dialogue" songs was performed by The Brass Choir, but no individuals or
arrangers listed.  This would have been a great album in stereo (was it
released in stereo?  would have been CS #### in that case) with the
answering back and forth from one channel to the other.  While there is
brass, there is also a good variety of percussion or, as the liner notes
say, "imaginative use of percussion."

From Forum SF 9001 "Roulette Presents A Demonstration of The New
Dimensional Sound of Dynamic Stereo," the Johnny Richards Orchestra and
Chorus does an interesting tune called "Kele Kele."  Also, there is
"Frenzy" by Machito and "Piruli" by Tito Rodriguez.  Alas, in my copy the
vinyl is flawed in the middle of "Kele Kele" so, while it plays through,
the bump is audible.

Kenyon Hopkins' Orchestra is great in Susan Barrett's set of songs in
"Mixed Emotions" Capitol T 1266.  There is ample use of bongos throughout.
Susan Barrett is quite good as well...belts out the tunes pretty well.
This is apparently her debut album: Capitol chose to go directly to the
album without even issuing a 45 first!  I am not sure if she did any other
albums, though.

Guest Star Records is known for releasing albums from two different artists
and intermixing the selections.  Where they get their material is often a
mystery.  Its Julie London release was generated from some cuts she
recorded for Bethlehem.  So, where did Ferrante & Teicher's come from off
the album Twin Pianos, GS 1410?  I guess from Westminster's 1956 album
"Soundproof."  African Echoes and Mississippi Boogie are found on both
according to Irwin Chusid's notes on The Ernie Kovacs Record Collection CD
(where these are ALSO found).  F&T also do "High High High" and "Boogie
Express" on the Guest Star recording.  Are these also on "Soundproof" ?
This album is a good discovery, but I do have to find a better copy...or,
better yet, the Westminster album.  The other artists on "Twin Pianos" are
Phillips and Shaffitz With the Metropolitan Strings who weren't quite as
wild as F&T.

Ever wanted to know what GNP stands for (as in GNP/Crescendo)?  Gene Norman
Presents.  That's one thing I got out of the album by Rene Touzet called
"From Broadway to Havana"  GNP 22.  This is my second GNP album featuring
this Cuban band leader but the first with a cover.  These are basically all
cha cha's with strong reliance on a small male chorus and piano...and of
course the usual Latin percussion. El Loco Cha Cha starts out sounding like
"Louie Louie."  Rene wrote three of the tunes.  The album was released
sometime after 1953.  There are at least four other Touzet albums on GNP:
"Cha Cha Cha,"  "Mr. Cha Cha," "Bossa Nova--Brazil to Hollywood" GNP 87,
and  (in stereo) "Gene Norman Presents Mr. Cha Cha Cha."

Henry Mancini's "Dream of You"  RCA Camden CAS 2510 is a re-release of some
material recorded earlier for RCA.  I like it!  Mancini plays swinging
harpsichord.  My favorites are all Mancini originals: Swing Lightly,
Everybody Blow!, Far East Blues and "A Powdered Wig."  On the sessions with
Mancini are Pete Candoli, Art Pepper and Shelly Manne, among others.  Was
all of this material from one original RCA release?  This remastered album
came out in 1971.

"Enoch Light and his Orchestra at Carnegie Hall Play Irving Berlin"
Command RS 840 SD features Lew Davies arrangements.  With his arrangements
and classic tunes, you can't go wrong.  The liner notes are jam packed with
words but not all that much information.  The orchestra has 60 persons, but
the notes say nothing more about who performs.  This is not a ping-pong
percussion album, but percussion is used well.

"International Mood's [sic] Vol. II" Marvela MVLP 64.  This is typical
cocktail piano, played by Richard Moser  "with Rythm" [sic].  There is
nothing particularly wrong, the music is nice, however the recording is
muddy.  I got it mainly for a medley which features Mack the Knife and a
performance of The Third Man Theme. It is sort of fun to read the liner
notes.  They look like they are put together from newspaper clippings
without the accompanying photos.  The album was produced in Puerto Rico by
Puerto Rico Record Manufacturing Company.


I think I am staying away from the stores for a while...I have loads of
recent purchases I haven't had time to listen to, let alone clean up and file!





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Subject: Re: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update
Date: 16 Aug 1998 19:27:33 EDT


<< * Various Artists: "And Now A Word From Our Sponsors 1"
   (Radio And TV Commercials)
       CD, East Anglian Productions, UK, 1996

 * Various Artists: "And Now A Word From Our Sponsors 2"
   (Radio And TV Commercials)
       CD, East Anglian Productions, UK, 1996 >>

Johan, can you give me a source for locating these please?

Everyone,

I always felt that the one Tee Vee toons commercial release was just not
enough.

So the first project I started working on with my new set up to create CD's of
my own was to gather up (rent) as many VIDEOS of vintage television
commercials and PSA's (public service announcements) I could find and transfer
the audio portion onto my hard drive.  Later, you can go in and snip off any
rough parts with pinpoint precison.

My first volume highlights include Don Drysdale for Vitalis and Hai Karate.  I
also clipped and pasted 38 Pams jingles, many from KYA 1260, the "Golden Gate
Great".

The results were quite good, if I do say so myself!

In Volume 2, I look foward to adding Drive-In Movie snack bar spots (nat
miner?).

Fun with a capital F.






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Subject: (exotica) A Bunch of Threads
Date: 17 Aug 1998 01:40:38 -0400


On August Darnell, etc.:  Simon Frith, the Brit rock critic,
once said he filed his records mostly according to genre,
but that he had a special section for records-that-have-something-
to-do-with-Kid-Creole-and-the-Coconuts.  I think the Ze
label is one of the (alas, mostly forgotten) great record companies.
I love the Christina album, and have devotedly collected Ze 12-inchers
since the early 1980s.  "Drive My Car" used to be one of the easiest
twelve-inchers to find in Montreal second-hand record stores.
And that first James White and the Blacks album,
from before it all went terribly wrong, is a masterpiece.

I just got back from New York, and a severely budget-reduced trip on
which I bought and heard very little.  But the Tower Sales Annex on
4th was selling off a few dozen Italian film soundtrack CDs for $2.99,
so I bought a dozen or so, many of them duplicates of things
I have on vinyl.  And while I'm the only one I know who seems to think so,
the Spa City Diner, in Saratoga Springs (where the bus from Montreal
to New York stops for coffee) is the purest 40s vintage eatery I've
ever seen.

Before that, I was in Melbourne, Australia, surely the thrift store
capital of the world.  I've never seen so many op-shops in my life,
though they seemed pretty picked over and offered up very little in
the way of vinyl treasures.

Will
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Subject:  Re: (exotica)Hi There/ Mingo 2000
Date: 17 Aug 1998 07:39:45 EDT



In a message dated 8/11/98 2:49:58 PM, you wrote:

<<> Mingo 2000 is my very favorite current"exotica" group

Would this in any way be connected to Mingo-go?  Please tell us more!  >>

I don't think there's any connection. Mingo 2000 is a local (SF) quartet
(trumpet/bass/guitar/drums/occasional organ) that plays a lot of movie
themes (Beat Girl, the Day the Fish Came Out), indian pop covers, fake
asian restaurant music...they have at least one 10" out, but I can't remember
the name....I saw them opening for Doo Rag at the Purple Onion a few years
back
and they ROCKED MY WORLD!
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Saturday=thrifting day
Date: 17 Aug 1998 06:49:31 PDT



Not much in the way of finds this weekend, but a fun adventure,
nevertheless. I went into an antique dealers mall mainly intending to
browse. One of the dealers was vending records. The only lp I picked up
was something called The New Music (Stockhausen and others of that
species), which I have not given a thorough listen yet. Rummaging
through the 45s I found several rockabilly records on the Sun and Coral
labels. I figured they would be unattainable but decided to ask: they
were .25 a piece. As the dealer was keying in my purchase, I noticed a
stack of 45s, untouchable, behind the counter. Noticing my curiosity,
the fellow asked if I would like to have a look adding "they are all
Beatle records, so they are going to cost you more than a quarter."
Smirking inwardly, I politely demured, thanked him and hit thee road.
Thank God for the damned Beatles.

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Subject: (exotica) 2 questions
Date: 17 Aug 1998 06:52:48 PDT



1.Does anyone know of a potentially safe way to unwarp a record?

2. Jayne Mansfield records: Is there anything to recommend these beyond
the novelty attraction (and the cover photos...)?

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) High Llamas etc @ broadcast.com
Date: 17 Aug 1998 11:34:05 -0400


> Recent Wall St. IPO darling www.broadcast.com is featuring the nice new
> High Llamas CD in RealAudio for your on-line listening pleasure.
> Broadcast.com has many other CD's of possible interest to the 329, such

Yes, this is just the sort of site that the record companies are targetting
(well, they're after anyone putting recordings on the net, actually, but you
know what I mean). As if RealAudio is any sort of threat to CDs (then again, I
suppose they want to get everything under their thumb before the technology
improves enough to be a real threat).

Here's the latest story I've seen on the subject:
http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980815S0001

The RIAA is seeking as much as 41.5% of such sites' gross revenues!

(a website with revenues? what a weird concept! ;o)

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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Princeton Record Exchange
Date: 17 Aug 1998 11:51:45 -0400


Hi all,

Just became aware of Princeton (NJ) Record Exchange and am considering
making a trip.

It'll be a small hassle to get there, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows
if it'd be worth it for "our kind" of stuff & if prices are decent. (I'm a
pretty strict $1-2 dollar man but for the once-in-awhile must-have).

Thanks!

Oh, BTW, you can check it out on http://www.prex.com.




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Subject: (exotica) Barbarella on TV
Date: 17 Aug 1998 11:59:21 -0400


"Barbarella" (1967) is scheduled on TNT, Wednesday at High Noon (eastern
daylight time).

Of course by the time they finish cutting things out and slapping commercials
in, it may not be very pleasant -- but it's another chance to listen to the
soundtrack at least.

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Princeton Record Exchange and other exchanges
Date: 17 Aug 1998 17:03:19 +0100


I notice that Princeton RE has 100,000 records. I went to Record Man in CA
where the window displayed 'We have more than 1,000,000 records' but I have
since found an internet record shop in Philadelphia (I think) that has more
than 2,000,000. Whenever I email them with a request for an obscure LP, I
always get a reply saying we have x copies, VG, VG+, M, US pressing/UK
pressing, gatefold or standard etc. I would love to go there but its a good
few thousand miles away. I had a dream the other night that I was trapped
in their basement with a turntable, 2 million records and a supply of food.





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Subject: (exotica) De-warping records or Microwaving 101
Date: 17 Aug 1998 12:14:31 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-17 09:54:46 EDT, Kahuna77 wrote:

<< 1.Does anyone know of a potentially safe way to unwarp a record?
  >>

i had posted awhile back about buying a bunch (about 200) of 78's that were
all warped.  i de-warped them by putting them (one at a time) into the
mircowave and when they would get a little warm i would take them out and
place them on a flat counter top.

if i were you,  would experiment with an album that is really ruined so you
can see what time is needed to heat the vinyl enough to re-shape it.  it took
about 25 seconds with the 78's.  also, the only problem i had was with one or
two 78's that had a metallic foil label (they kind popped a little!!!).

now keep in mind that the 78's i have were really warped bad.  they had been
stacked on a 45 degree angle in a hot attic.  the needle on my Victrolas weigh
a ton but still could not track.  i would assume that the heat needed would be
less to de-warp a vinyl record.  one other concern, i don't know if the ridges
in the grooves will be effected by this de-warping process.  it did not seem
to effect my 78's.

has anyone else had success in this manner?

happy cooking,

robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella on TV
Date: 17 Aug 1998 12:19:34 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-17 11:59:37 EDT, you write:

<< "Barbarella" (1967) is scheduled on TNT, Wednesday at High Noon (eastern
 daylight time). >>

I must be too cynical -- I would have figured that Jane would have gotten Ted
to "seek and destroy" all copies of this movie.  Or at least, not show them on
one of his (and thus her) stations.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Princeton Record Exchange
Date: 17 Aug 1998 12:45:35 -0400


At 11:51 AM -0400 8/17/98, Chris Cook wrote:

>Just became aware of Princeton (NJ) Record Exchange and am considering
>making a trip.
>
>It'll be a small hassle to get there, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows
>if it'd be worth it for "our kind" of stuff & if prices are decent. (I'm a
>pretty strict $1-2 dollar man but for the once-in-awhile must-have).

I've never had a bad day at the Princeton (NJ) Record Exchange. They do
have a lot of dollar records in boxes on the floor, although that's not
their specialty. But their prices are fair and the place is pretty big.
Naturally, as with any used record shop, you could walk in 5 minutes after
somebody just bought all the titles you wanted (that had been sitting there
for months).

I live 300 miles away and rarely get there, but everytime I've been there
I've found a lot of good stuff at reasonable prices (although, yes, things
like Esquivel records will cost around $25). Now if I only could get to
Pittsburgh more often. How many folks have been to Jerry's? Now that's a
record store!

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From: Clark Scheffy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) De-warping records or Microwaving 101
Date: 17 Aug 1998 09:52:01 -0700


The method I've heard of, but I confess, have never tried, is the following:

Take two pieces of clean, flat window glass. place your warped record between
them. put this sandwich in a standard home *gas* oven that is *not* turned on.
The heat from the pilot light will be sufficient to slowly unwarp the record.
This is a slow process - it may take 8 hours or so to unwarp an LP this way.

I think that the low temperature of this method may be a little safer than
microwave, which I would think could get out of hand rather quickly. Also,
microwaves really just excite water molecules, or perhaps certain hydrocarbons
in record vinyl. Also, the microwave's focus can be very localized, and I
would
be concerned with bubbling of the surface of the record, which would quickly
destroy a groove.

Like I say, I've never tried this method and only heard "from a friend of a
friend" that it works. Try it on a beater first...

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella on TV
Date: 17 Aug 1998 13:20:04 -0400


According to Cult Movies 2 by Danny Peary, when she is asked about the
movie, she says, "I like it-it's fun!"

Either she does like it, or she deflects questions about it by claiming to
like it.

I don't think that "Old Gringo"(she retired after this was released) or
"The Morning After"(she seemed embarrassed that she was nominated for an
Oscar for this one) would elicit the same response from her, though!

>I must be too cynical -- I would have figured that Jane would have gotten Ted
>to "seek and destroy" all copies of this movie.  Or at least, not show
them on
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Subject: (exotica) Re:  scanning an album cover
Date: 17 Aug 1998 16:31:59 +0200


>From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>

> * Nothing is ever lined up completely straight on the bed of the scanner, so
>   don't waste lots of time trying to get it prefect.

    have you tried fitting a ruler on your scanner
    (taped with sticky tape so that it remains on place)
    you can glide the cover along side of it...

        Johan


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Paul Lewis
Date: 17 Aug 1998 11:26:48 -0700


Looking for Paul Lewis;

Please contact me Paul, if you read this
I may have something for you

JD



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Subject: Re: (exotica) De-warping records or Microwaving 101
Date: 17 Aug 1998 15:40:06 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-17 12:55:52 EDT,:

<< I think that the low temperature of this method may be a little safer than
 microwave, which I would think could get out of hand rather quickly. Also,
 microwaves really just excite water molecules, or perhaps certain
hydrocarbons
 in record vinyl. Also, the microwave's focus can be very localized, and I
 would
 be concerned with bubbling of the surface of the record, which would quickly
 destroy a groove. >>

you have to remember that i had like a couple hundred of these things to de-
warp.  i really didn't care if i fried a couple so the mircowave thing did not
scare me.  what i found amazing is that it worked so well.  and it is easy to
quickly check the heat from the microwave (because the whole process only
takes about 30 s. -- try hanging around for 8 hours to see how hot the record
gets from the pilot light).

my microwave has a "turntable" so the hot spot thing was not a problem.  and i
ain't talking about cooking the album.  just heating it up a little.

microwaves work on "exciting" (i.e. creating friction) between any molecules
that have "flexible" bonds.  this is certainly true of standard vinyl which is
"fluid" anyway.  again, try it with some beat up old record and let the list
know what happens.

(this should give you guys a field trip reason -- get one of those Olivia
Newton John albums that Michele is always talking about and see what you can
make with it).

and remember when cooking, always save the chicken neck!

robert


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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Turntable Advice
Date: 17 Aug 1998 17:17:14 -0400


Actually, my belt fried a long time ago.
I replaced it with a humongous rubber band, very industrial.
Works great.
I think.

ANyway, if I had the cash, or didn't have fifteen million other things I
needed more, I'd certainly invest in a nice direct drive turntable.  But
that's me.

Plus, then I could finally learn to scratch and beat match.

Wikki wikki wikki wikki...


Peter
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From: "Thai, Anthony" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Big Bad Voodoo Daddy - Big Swing Supernova
Date: 17 Aug 1998 14:53:47 -0700


        Big Swing Supernova

        Big Bad Voodoo Daddy
        with the Jazzmanian Devils
        Richard's on Richards
        Vancouver, B.C.
        Monday, June 8, 1998=20

        Review by Dorothy Parvaz
        Photography by Michael LaRivi=E8re=20


        I can only say that you missed out in a big way if you
didn't make it to the Big Bad Voodoo Daddy show at Richard's on =
Richards.=20

        Kickin' off the night were the Jazzmanian Devils, who, if
nothing else, provided and opportunity for them swing kids to dance a =
bit
before
        the club got entirely too packed to do so (and before the
bouncers got bored with pestering everyone at the door and decided to =
move
on
        into the club to bully the crowd -- as if a bunch of kids in
zoot suits and swingy dresses were poised to cause any sort of damage). =


        The trippiest thing about the JD's was their frontman,
Dennis Mills, who sort has the demeanor of a freak-circus ringmaster. =
Other
than
        that, the Jazzmanian Devils weren't bad, they just didn't
have much oomph. They had a tidy little jive sound (emphasis on little,
especially
        when it came to the drums...), but they weren't too
engaging.=20

        Big Bad Voodoo Daddy were the main attraction of the night.
Die-hard fans swapped stories of the last time BBVD were in town, who =
was
        there for the show, who wasn't and what they had to go
through to get tickets to this show. By the time BBVD came on stage, =
the
floor was
        packed and hopping, and by hopping, I don't mean like the
Lindy... I mean like a pogo stick. There was no room to twirl and =
jitterbug,
        which explains why even the tiny open spaces near the
bathroom and the grill upstairs were hot-spots for dancing couples -- =
there
was
        nowhere else to go.=20

        Frontman Scotty Morris didn't stop smiling once. It was as
though someone had just told him he'd won a million bucks... what a
        smooth-singing, sharp-looking fella. Then again, what did he
have to be pouty about? The crowd was so fully into every note and =
every
        gesture that, let's face it, BBVD could do no wrong, and
they didn't. They just went supernova on stage, and the audience =
followed
suit
        when they burst into "You and Me and the Bottle Makes 3
Tonight (Baby)."=20

        The drums were just so. Perfect. And there's just something
about the upright bass. Played right, it can do things to a person, and
let's just
        say Dirk Shumaker played it right.=20

        We got treated to an extended version of "Jump with My Baby"
on account of this loco sax solo and band members just having a blast =
on
        stage. Sweet Jesus, what a horn section. Every kid who even
thinks of dropping out of the high school band should check out Karl =
Hunter
        on the sax and Glen 'The Kid' Marhevka on the trumpet --
these guys are fierce. They blew the lid right off the joint. So stick =
with
the brass
        kids... you never know.=20

        Other than out and out setting the place on fire with their
huge sound, the thing that sets BBVD apart from other young swing bands =
it
that
        they don't just play dress-up and belt out some old tunes;
these guys are the genuine article. Big Bad Voodoo Daddy are pure =
class...
there
        wasn't a single slip-up, not a cuss word, not a scowl,
nothing but smiles, energy and amazing musicianship.=20

        As further proof that they're first class all the way, baby,
BBVD's dedicated their encore to the memory of Frank Sinatra, with =
Golden
Slide
        (aka baritone saxophonist Andy 'Luscious' Rowly) singing
that old Austin-Jordan tune, "Is You Is, or Is You Ain't My Baby."=20

        They closed with "Go Daddy-O" (with a touch of "Smells Like
Teen Spirit" tucked in the mid-flow), which brought the evening's cover
count
        to a whopping three (including Cab Calloway's "Minnie the
Moocher" and Louis Prima's "I Wanna Be Like You," from the Jungle =
Book).=20

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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Princeton Record Exchange
Date: 17 Aug 1998 19:30:41 -0400


Princeton Record Exchange is great. They have dozens of $1 boxes under
the bins, so be ready to spend several hours on your knees. I built a lot
of my collection there in the late 80s, before they wisened up to the
value of some of the stuff they carried (i.e. soundtrack to Valley of the
Dolls in excellent condition for $2, Burt Bacharach's Lost Horizons for
99c, etc.). They will also take anything you bring in for trade. Don't
hesitate don't ask the staff for specific items because they have more
stuff in the back.

Elisabeth


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Subject: Re: (exotica) De-warping records or Microwaving 101
Date: 17 Aug 1998 21:14:42 -0400


> takes about 30 s. -- try hanging around for 8 hours to see how hot the record
> gets from the pilot light).

A few years ago I was making a halloween costume, and ended up making
leg 'armor' by heating a record til it was malleable, and then pressing
it against my leg so it matched the curvature of my thigh....drilled a
few tiny holes, then sewed them to my jeans.

All you have to do make a record malleable is turn on one of the
burners, and hold the record approximately one foot over the
heat.....you don't want to get it too close.  You can feel when the
record becomes malleable, it only takes about 10 seconds.

I did fix a warped record this way....heated it up til it got soft, then
I pressed a book on top of it til it hardened once more.  I was able to
listen to the record afterward with no real significant damage.  This
was a fairly thin flexible modern record though.

I see no reason why the microwave method would not work as well as this
method.

Vern


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From: [e-mail] (Wayno)
Subject: (exotica) Alvino Rey's theme to "The Bat"
Date: 17 Aug 1998 21:38:59 -0400


m.ace wrote:

Just now, I caught the opening titles of the 1959 version of "The Bat"
(starring Vincent Price & Agnes Moorehead). Cool opening theme -- a
swinging crime jazz piece, featuring steel guitar by Alvino Rey. He was
even credited right there in the opening titles! Did the soundtrack ever
make it into release? Thanks.

------------------->

        I don't believe there was a soundtrack LP, however Rey's theme
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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hello all!
Date: 17 Aug 1998 23:05:04 -0400


Greetings--

I am new to the Exotica list (one day) and I can not begin to describe the
sheer JOY that this discovery has brought me!

I've been actively purchasing 'exotica' discs for about 4-5 years now, but
my love for the music was always there -- it was just dormant deep inside
me.  Here's the story -- my folks both worked in the film industry, and as a
child my home was often the scene of pretty interesting parties.  (This was
the late 60's.)  The music at these parties often consisted of Sergio
Mendes, Herb Alpert, Exotica soundtracks (especially Casino Royale) and
loads of Bossa Nova.  (Before anyone asks -- my mom threw out ALL those
albums when my folks got divorced.)  I can remember peeking at these parties
from my bedroom.  Too young to understand the conversation, the music (along
with the smell of drugs and the occasional topless woman) became the
language of the parties to me.  Along with that, the household record
collection was full of soundtracks that dad got from the studios.  (I can
remember the day he came home with Bacharach's 'Lost Horizon' -- a pivotal
moment in my life.)

My musical tastes changed as I got older, but I was always a sucker for a
beautiful melody.  I can remember being in Japan a few years ago and seeing
CD versions of many of the great albums my folks had as a kid.  Thus began
the rebirth -- a quest that goes on still.

I think it's wonderful that there are current bands who are deeply rooted in
the music of that era -- one of the greatest discoveries in my life was The
High Llamas.  Hawaii is about as perfect as an album can get.

As for this list -- if there are any rules/regulations please let me know.
I have loads of questions/comments for the list -- I'm already very
impressed by what I've read.  (I will be definitely driving to the Princeton
Record Exchange this coming weekend!)

Quick note -- just purchased this evening:
The Free Design -- Best Of...
Laila France -- Orgonon
Friends of Dean Martinez -- Retrograde

ag.



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Subject: (exotica) Rene' Touzet
Date: 17 Aug 1998 23:15:08 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-16 19:02:51 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< This is my second GNP album featuring
 this Cuban band leader but the first with a cover.  These are basically all
 cha cha's with strong reliance on a small male chorus and piano...and of
 course the usual Latin percussion. El Loco Cha Cha starts out sounding like
 "Louie Louie."  Rene wrote three of the tunes.  The album was released
 sometime after 1953.  There are at least four other Touzet albums on GNP:
 "Cha Cha Cha,"  "Mr. Cha Cha," "Bossa Nova--Brazil to Hollywood" GNP 87,
 and  (in stereo) "Gene Norman Presents Mr. Cha Cha Cha." >>

I just love this guy's stuff.  I always buy every Rene Touzet album I can
find.

I can ad to the list the following albums by him:

1.  "La Pachanga" - this is the only one that I did not like very much (GNP -
57)
2.  "Greatest Latin Hits!" (GNP - 74)
3.  "The Cha, Cha, Cha and the Mambo" (GNP - 14)
4.  "The Best of Rene Touzet" - (GNP - 2000)
5.  "Bossa Nova!" (GNP - 87)

the 2 albums you mention above:

6.  "The Timeless Ones 'a la Touzet" (GNP - 52)
7.  "Mr. Cha, Cha, Cha" (GNP - 40)

I have not listened to #4 or #5 yet (these are new acquisitions) but highly
reccomend #2, #3, #6 and #7.

He's got that great chorus of male singers like the Lettermen or something
backing him up, so this may not be for "purists" but the music is almost
always lively, and never boring and you can sing along.  Love that "Flamingo
Cha Cha"

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Hello all!
Date: 17 Aug 1998 23:34:51 EDT


In a message dated 8/17/98 11:28:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> soundtracks (especially Casino Royale)

Welcome, and may I note, one of the greatest comedy soundtracks EVER!

Larry


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From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Pufnstuff 'n' Stuff
Date: 17 Aug 1998 21:07:01 -0700


From today's Film Threat Weekly:

"KROFFT FOR SALE?
For all of you who, like us at Film Threat, spent your childhood in the
1970's, a RARE opportunity presents itself.  Sid and Marty Krofft, the
creators of H.R. Pufnstuff, Land of the Lost, Sigmund - the Sea Monsters,
and MANY others, are cleaning house.  On Sunday, Aug. 23 at the Beverly
Hilton
Hotel in Beverly Hills, CA,  the Dove Brothers will conduct an auction of
original Krofft puppets, costumes and other memorabilia from their TV series
and live appearances.  You have a chance to own, among other things: the
Witchiepoo and Pufnstuf costumes and Freddy the Flute puppet from H.R.
Pufunstuf -  the Enik the Sleestak costume from Land of the Lost and the
Balinese dancer marionette created for Judy Garland's 1957 tour.
     Items from the entire length of Sid's and Marty's careers will be
available.  A 72 page limited edition catalog is available as well by
ordering from the website or 1-800-319-2759.  The auction begins at 6pm, but
you can preview the collection from 10am.
     Personally, our preference would be for someone to buy the whole lot
for a Sid and Marty Kroft Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas.  H.R. Pufnstuf
greeting you at the door on your way to Sleestak Blackjack dealers sounds
like a good time to us.
http://www.dovebrothers.com/krofft.htm"

Just saw the TV soundtrack album going for $50.  Sid 'n' Marty oughta make a
killing.

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas and The Big Boss?
Date: 18 Aug 1998 10:57:08 +0100


I want help from resident Peter Thomas/Kung Fu Soundtrack experts!

I was watching the Bruce Lee film "The Big Boss" last night for the
first time. As soon as the title music came on, I recognized it as a
Peter Thomas composition (sure enough, I checked, and it's on the
Polydor "Easy Lounging" Thomas compilation: "Big Boss" from "Der
Todesfaust Cheng Li"). I also recognized other snippets (specifically
"Moontown", one of the bonus tracks from the "Raumpatrouille"
re-release, and possibly other stuff from "Orion 2000"). Then there
was quite a bit of music I didn't recognize, some of which seemed very
Thomas-y, but with a lot of electronics in it.

Now, this is weird, because the Raumpatrouille album states that the
bonus tracks date from 1975, but The Big Boss dates from
1971. Further, an IMDB search gives info that credits original music
to "Fu-ling Wang", and there is no link to a soundtrack release.

The video I was watching was a 1997 release.

So, I'm assuming that either Thomas composed those tracks in 1971, or
that the music was redone with the dubbing into English at some
point. So, my questions include: does anyone know about the history of
different versions of "The Big Boss", was the soundtrack ever released
(I assume so) and what's on it, who did the music I didn't recognize
and where can I get hold of it?

Thanks in advance for anything I can get on this one,
Pete.



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Subject: (exotica) Questions
Date: 18 Aug 1998 12:07:36 +0100


> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
Not really any more,  was a guitarist,  I do own a sampler  and various
synths with which I used to produce weird Techno,  but my head being a
strange place it was a bit too disorientating  to actually get people to
buy (or even enjoy without losing their sense of balance,  kind of
'stereo action' techno I suppose).  Although from various comments on
the list 'Are you a DJ?' would be a more pertinent question.

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
Where do you draw the line?  Theres a route in from Tom Jones,  but I've
always liked Stereo Samplers and strange stuff.  Most recently I suppose
the record that turned me onto 'this was 'Bachelor Pad Space age Music'
Esquivel Compilation.

> 3. This list could help you more by...
Not whining about what is and isn't relevant (the obit debate was
clearly knocked on the head by the death of the Hawaiian guy).  Now that
was morbid entertainment.

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
I love to collect.  Its a problem.  Trashy videos,  books,  religious
trash,  I love it.

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
Anything with no sense of its own boundaries.  Anything with no sense.
Psychedelia and 60's surf/garage,  Jungle/Techno/HipHop,  Nancy Sinatra,
Bobby Gentry,  Elvis,  Tom.

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound
quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of
CDs?
> Tell us more!
Someone broke into my house and took my CD collection away in a carrier
bag.  Fuckers steal my records they gotta work for it.  (Sorry about the
language,  but 3 years on it still hurts).

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe
it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
No

> 9. Shaken or stirred?
Frozen.

> 10. I clean my LPs with ...
Soapy water

> 11. My home page URL is:
printed at the bottom of the page

> 12. I have a Licence To ...
Organise.

Il Maestro Con Queso

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) more TV Jazz on a summers day
Date: 18 Aug 1998 12:08:35 +0100


*

The combo in the attic is the Chico Hamilton Quartet (or possibly
Quintet,  he had both in the early 60's I believe - Eric Dolphy was a
member for a while),  doing a song called something like 'With dignity,
respect and love'  I have been looking for this for 15  years.  If
anyone has any information I would be well chuffed.

"Jazz On A Summer's Day" (1959) The time machine boards here.
Documentary on
the 1958 Newport Jazz Festival. Performers include Thelonious Monk (too
brief,
but he does have his bamboo-frame shades on), Dinah Washington, Gerry
Mulligan,
Anita O'Day, Sonny Stitt, Louis Armstrong (driving teenagers into a
head-banging frenzy), many more. I forget the performers' names, but
there's
also a snippet of a combo in an attic room doing a rather exotic piece
featuring a gong and such. Audience footage is great for people
watching. Bravo
*    - Tuesday - 4:30pm.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Odds
Date: 18 Aug 1998 12:08:52 +0100


'Hello Operator....'  by Was Not Was is also on the B side of the
English 7" of 'Out Come The Freaks'.  That is some strange tune.

Also I think the woman from the Hai Karate Adverts lives in Rottingdean
on the English south coast.  She still looks exactly the same,  even
down to the super thick eye liner.




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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Date: 18 Aug 1998 04:45:05


Byron Caloz wrote:
>Just who was behind Dialogue for Brass (Columbia CL 1499)?  This album of
>12 "dialogue" songs was performed by The Brass Choir, but no individuals or
>arrangers listed.

The arranger was Lew Davies, who spent most of his time doing the
arrangements for Enoch Light's "Persuasive Percussion" et al. albums.
Davies was the lead arranger for Command and Project 3 until he died in 1968.

For info on Lew Davies:

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/davies.htm

Brad


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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Odds
Date: 18 Aug 1998 13:31:03 +0100


Actually the woman from the British Hai Karate adverts is my mate's mother
Valerie. She lives in Chiswick West London. She's not as sexy as she used
to be and she hasn't been attacking any men lately (Hai Karate after shave
used to include karate instructions so the wearer would be able to
successfully defend himself from the hoards of exited women). She was also
a Bond Girl and a Carry On actress.

Charlie





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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rene' Touzet
Date: 18 Aug 1998 07:47:34 +0000


> In a message dated 98-08-16 19:02:51 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

> << This is my second GNP album featuring this Cuban band leader but
>  the first with a cover.  These are basically all  cha cha's

Another great one by Touzet is "The Music of Leroy Anderson" on the
Tico label.  You've gotta hear those cha-cha and bossa nova
renditions of "The Typewriter", "The Syncopated Clock" and "Sleigh
Ride".  Absolutely insane stuff!

Darrell Brogdon
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Questions
Date: 18 Aug 1998 14:17:21 +0100




> ----------
> From:     Rcbrooksod[SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:     18 August 1998 14:01
> To:     [e-mail]
> Subject:     Re: (exotica) Questions
>
> In a message dated 98-08-18 07:11:25 EDT, you write:
>
> << > 3. This list could help you more by...
>  Not whining about what is and isn't relevant (the obit debate was
>  clearly knocked on the head by the death of the Hawaiian guy).  Now
> that
>  was morbid entertainment.
>   >>
>
> which Hawaiian Guy?
>
> Robert
>
>
I assumed he was Hawaiian,  I've been away for a week and sped read a
lot of stuff.  In fact I still think he's Hawaiian.


Il Maestro Con Queso

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> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:36:30 EDT
> From: <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Another Obit
>
> HONOLULU, HI (August 14, 1998) UPI - Jeffery "Catch" Ketchamori,
> longtime
> steel guitar player and stage hand for Don Ho, died today in Honolulu.
> Deputy
> Coroner  Eue Gochago of the Honolulu  Coroners Office described the
> freak
> accident that claimed Ketchamoris life.   "The accident occurred when
> a
> stucco wall made to look like lava rock fell on Ketchamori at Don Hos
> studio
> on Wikiki Beach", Gochago described to reporters yesterday afternoon.
> An
> investigation is being made into the proper installation of the wal
> which was
> only 2 months old.
>
> "Catch" got his start in 1954 when he ascended from his position as
> bartender
> at Don the Beachcomer's Dagger Bar to ukulele player and later steel
> guitar
> player in the various house bands.  He got the nickname "Catch" partly
> from
> his last name and because he would throw the cocktail shakers in the
> air and
> "catch" them.  In the 1960 tragedy stuck when "Catch" suffered a
> stroke which
> paralyzed his right side and thus ended his performing career.
>
> Long time friend Don Ho hired "Catch" to manage the stage show
> productions at
> his famous Bubble Room which entertained thousands of tourists
> vacationing in
> Hawaii in the late 1960s and 1970s.  Even with Catchs physical
> limitations,
> he still worked diligently and is credited with starting Don Ho
> singing the
> "Magic Bubbles" signature tune.
>
>      "Catch" explained to Mr. Ho in 1957, "That Welk guy aint got no
> monopoly
> on bubbles.  If they worked for him they can work for us.  People
> really like
> bubbles!"  Ho was eternally grateful to Ketchamori for the inspiration
> and
> would call him out at the end of each show. Even with his physical
> limitations, Ketchamori would always bow gracefully to the audience
> and say,
> "Youre welcome for the bubbles!"
>
> Ketchamori is survived by his wife of 38 years, Karen "Squeak"
> Ketchamori, 3
> sons and 6 grandchildren.  Burial was at the Kummiwani Memorial
> Gardens on
> Maui.  In fond memory of his contribution to the Don Ho Show, Mr. Ho
> did a
> grave side dedicated of head stone which pictured a little champagne
> glass
> with the trade mark effervescent bubbles.
>
>
>


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Staccato! (plus Hardy)
Date: 18 Aug 1998 02:58:24 -0400


I have to mention two records I picked up recently, two records of vastly
different description but both in their own way are way better or at least
more interesting than I expected them to be.

"STACCATO", the Elmer Bernstein score to the television series which
starred my hero John Cassavettes as a jazz piano-playing private detective.
 I don't remember the series but I have wanted this record ever since I
first saw it at a dealer's house two years ago.  That guy wanted $20 which
is out of my price range but later I phoned him back and said I'd take it.
Unfortunately I had somehow fallen out of favour with him in the meantime -
must have been those records on the floor I accidentally nudged with my
foot - and he said he wouldn't sell it to me.
This copy was $10 which is still high for me but come on, the cool cover,
John Cassavettes, a jazz pianist cum private dick?
If that's not to die for, what is?

The shocker is that it's probably the best "crime jazz" record I've ever
heard.  Not that I've heard that many.  In fact I have no idea what crime
jazz is.  (It's a crime to call Kenny G. jazz but I know that it doesn't
mean that.)
But I do have the Richard Diamond soundtrack record and if that is crime
jazz, then this must be crime jazz... except this is way better, in my
humble opinion.

I would have been thrilled to have this record if it sucked but hey, it
doesn't.

the next record is totally another story.

THE BAKER STREET PHILHARMONIC "Je Taime..."

I don't even know what to call music like this.  I guess it's easy
listening.  What else can you call it?  I guess it's in the same category
as Paul Mauriat.

All the original tunes were written by one Mike Vickers, a name which rings
a bell but I don't know why... though I assume I'm about to find out.

There are some okay covers here like "Everybody's talkin" but the tunes I
can't get over are the originals.  "Sea of Fertility", "Sea of
Tranquility", "Sea of Crises".

I'm not saying this is great or even good.  But there's something about it.
 For instance, the version of "Je T'aime" has this dull but insistent drum
beat that kind of reminds you of some kind of really lazy drum n bass mix.
And there's a lot going on in the arrangements.

It's something that I just think some people here would really like...
especially the soundtrack enthusiasts.  I paid nothing for it and I can't
recommend anyone pay more than that but if you see that name and you like..
I have no idea what to call it.. pick this up.

It's the kind of record that you can't figure out who it was made for but
you kind of like it anyway.

And by the way, on the Francois Hardy thread, I have two of her records.  I
can't remember the other one because it was a bit folky for my taste.

But the one I like, just called "Francois Hardy" is on the Disques Vogue
label and has this great weird little rock tune called "On dit de lui"
(which for some reason translates as "It's gonna take me some time") and a
good version of a Bacharach tune that I didn't know, called "L'amour d'un
garcon" and the English name is pretty easy to figure out on that one.  The
writing credit on that one is Bacharach, David and Hardy so maybe that
explains why I've never heard it.

No indication of year.  Good record.

Nat



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Charity Shops in Scotland
Date: 18 Aug 1998 15:11:24 +0100


After my comments on the whining I know I risk opening up the Charity
(thrift) shop debate again,  but I've just got back from a week in
Scotland and the Charity shops there were absolutely fantastic,  clean,
large, friendly,  and it seems there were 8 in every high street.  I
went to Perth,  Stirling,  Dunfermline and Edinburgh  (there were more
like 20 shops in the middle of Edinburgh).  I did find 2 CD only shops
(boo!),  but the rest all had a few records in.  Now lets see.

The Fabulous Sound of Les Baxter    'Strings, Guitars, Voices'
Not massively exotic but nice enough all the same.

Dick Schory's Percussion Pops Orchestra    Holiday for Percussion    A
'Stereo Action' LP but with a normal sleeve(No Die Cut Card) on a green
RCA label.

George Shearing Quintet        Latin Lace    Someone was raving about
this a couple of weeks ago,  but I think I agree with the person who
called it elevator music,  so nice it just washes right over you =
leaving
you with no real impression at all.

A Man and A Woman OST    As you know.  This is the only one with audible
wear and tear,  but its not so bad.

The Red Army Ensemble        On Vox records,  disappointing version
of the 'Song of the Volga Boatmen',  but its always worth it for
'Meadowland'.

Ray Charles 'All Time C+W greats' (wonderful record)
Maurice Chevalier (My other half is called Louise)
The Carpenters 'Kind of Hush' (Mint condition)
The Osmonds 'Phase III' (No excuses)
KLF 'The white Room' (replacing a stolen CD)
The Crusaders 'Street Life' 7"

Nothing cost more than a pound,  the Les Baxter was 50p (minus the =
inner
sleeve) looks a bit worn but it plays fine.  The Sue Ryder shop in =
Perth
had loads more stuff,  but they'd really abused it all.  A real shame.
I also got some very nice powder blue 'golfing' slacks for =A33.50.  I
don't know but I think you cant really go wrong.  recommended.  Get =
thee
to Scotland.


Il Maestro Con Queso

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Staccato! (plus Hardy)
Date: 18 Aug 1998 07:33:13 PDT


I don't know if this quite counts as Crime Jazz (Biker jazz?), but a
recent discovery of mine doing major time on my turntable: Leith
Stephens's soundtrack to The Wild One (star, of course, Brando as
"Johnny"). I'll have to rent the film again just to get a sense of the
mood established by arrangements such as "Drag for Beers." Many of the
tracks begin with the sound of a big cycle engine revving up - and just
as I expect to hear Davie Allen's fuzzrite kick in, it's Shorty Rogers
on trumpet....
>
>The shocker is that it's probably the best "crime jazz" record I've
ever
>heard.  Not that I've heard that many.  In fact I have no idea what
crime
>jazz is.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Charity Shops in Scotland
Date: 18 Aug 1998 07:36:41 PDT


I just found the empty cover for this one (well, it had an Reader's
Digest producedAl Caiola lp inside): did I miss out on much?


>
>Dick Schory's Percussion Pops Orchestra    Holiday for Percussion    A
>'Stereo Action' LP but with a normal sleeve(No Die Cut Card) on a green
>RCA label.


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Subject: (exotica) Further developments on the BELLYBONGO site
Date: 18 Aug 1998 07:49:27 PDT



Now in Color.
http://home3.swipnet.se/~w-35644/bellybongo/miscmasc/

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From: Bissia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Mr. Scruff
Date: 18 Aug 1998 16:58:26 +0100


Robert McKenna posted :
<...>
>was a piece by mr scruff called 'fish' which appears to
>be a childrens story record and some nature programs spliced together
>like a trick set with chilled flanged lounge / ez grooves. Anyone know
>any more about this? does he do more in this vein?

I have a few EP and remix works of Mr. Scruff in my collection and
these are more on the Housey or mainly Trip Hop breack beat kind of
groove,
very good ones to my taste but not quite exoticish as the 'fish' track you
mentioned , still Mr. Scruff is worth a check if you also like Trip Hop
and
sometimes yes with a loungy, easy, jazzy edge ...


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From: Bissia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) lost touch of  Kerry
Date: 18 Aug 1998 16:58:22 +0100


I lost touch of  Kerry J. Byrnes,
I I have his snailmail address but can't remember and find
the list of what I had put aside for order
( it was some Denny's LPs),

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Best of Free Design
Date: 18 Aug 1998 10:24:39 -0400


>Quick note -- just purchased this evening:
>The Free Design -- Best Of...
>Laila France -- Orgonon
>Friends of Dean Martinez -- Retrograde

Welcome to the list, Andrew.

Yes, I picked up the Free Design best of just yesterday.  Fantastic
stuff, I thought, although I only own one of their LPs, and so cannot
offer opinions as to the quality of the song choices.  That song with the
line 'should it be a hit' really knocked me out.

I've not heard the Laila France yet, but FODM always knock me out;
they're great live as well.

regards
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Staccato! (plus Hardy)
Date: 18 Aug 1998 11:07:59 EDT



>"STACCATO", the Elmer Bernstein score to the television series which
>starred my hero John Cassavettes as a jazz piano-playing private detective.

> The shocker is that it's probably the best "crime jazz" record I've ever
>heard.

I agree!  One of the very best crime jazz records if not the king of all crime
jazz records.  Well worth a few extra bucks!

I also found a record by Elmer Bernstein called 'Movie and TV Themes' which
has some great crime jazz themes from some of his other films (Rat Race,
Sudden Fear, Walk on the Wild Side, and several others).  If you see it, snap
it up.

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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) empty covers
Date: 18 Aug 1998 11:25:59 -0400


>I just found the empty cover for this one (well, it had an Reader's
>Digest producedAl Caiola lp inside): did I miss out on much?

Man, I *HATE* that!  I was at a thrift store last nite, where all the LPs
are $.50, and ran through a patch of something like 50 empty covers, a ton
of them really awesome exotica & mood records.  What's the story with
that?? GRRR.  Really upset to have found an empty 101 Strings Backbeat
Symphony.  Always wanted to hear that one ...

Sometimes you'll find a big-old stack of vinyl without covers in the corner
leaning against a broken exercycle (ouch! I'd almost prefer to see my
grandmother naked than that!).  And, sometimes, you can actually find the
matching disk for the empty cover you've found.  More often than not,
though, the stack will be entirely made up of Johnny Mathis, Barbra
Christmas, and Loggins & Messina.

Anyway, I was tempted to grab the handful of empty covers and try to buy
them.  But this was one of those bone-head volunteer thrifts where they
won't sell you something if they have to actually think about it .... and I
was soaking wet from getting caught in downpour and was in no mood to deal
with it.

Sometimes I buy a record I know will suck just 'cause the cover is cool
(don't we *all* do that?)  In fact, mood records are almost pretty crummy,
but have the coolest covers ... cha cha records, too.  Those 50s colors can
be such sumptuous knockouts.

Which makes me wonder:  Does anyone routinely buy these empty covers?
What's a fair amout to expect to spend for them?  From one perspective,
they're pretty worthless. But, then again, a reasonable, similar argument
could be made about most of the music I listen to! :)

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Great Italian Soundtracks & Other Goodies
Date: 18 Aug 1998 09:54:37 -0700 (PDT)



I have  really been enjoying the following great exotica soundtrack
releases I purchased some time ago from that wonderful, marvelous
record store http://www.dustygroove.com For a more detailed
description of the music check out the dusty site.

IO e Mara on Easy Tempo (no date 1997?)
This is the holy grail of sensual soft easy sounds that will have you
floating in heaven!  The music is full of whispered sexy echoing  la
las sung by someone with  beautiful vocal chords. I can't recommend
this enough.

La Morte Accarezza a mezzanotte, Easy Tempo 1998
A tremenous soundtrack that takes you on a dark mysterious easy
listening journey to a fearful place that is best left on your cd
player.  The sound starts off slow & easy and suddenly dramatic spy
jazz cuts pop out with a funky organ.  The atmosphere of suspense,
fear and longing is captured dramatically by Gianni Ferrio with
soundscapes on this all killer no filler release.

Camille 2000,  Easy Tempo 1998  One of the best sensual soundtracks
ever made.  Pierro Piccioni's amazing melodies drench your ears in one
great exotica sound experience. Then as the plot thickens so does the
sound.  An organ comes in and you're dropped off your cloud and down
to a new earthly sound. The song Camille 2000 is simply a perfect easy
soft exotic melody and it is the bookends on this great soundtrack.

Holocaust 2000 & Sesso in Confessionale,
Beat Record, no date listed probably 1997.
Two great Ennio Morricone soundtracks on one cd!
I'm always looking for more morricone any suggestions?
I recently saw the new Lolita movie and have to say his soundtrack was
a bit weak.

Le Pollen by Pierre Barouh, SARAVAH (no date) Pierre Barouh has a
matter of fact way of talking and singing in French with a wonderful
voice & some beautiful soft background instrumentation made with
synthesizers. Super cool feel to the music

Arrriva la Bomba, Various Artists on Irma (1998) Another great Irma
release.  Super cool late 60's now sounds that Irma does so well.
This cd will have you dancing to those mod mod Italian now sounds. The
music's all over the sound spectrum with a lot of wild remakes of
songs but again its all killer with no filler.

From [e-mail] I have been listening to St Tropez and
France on the Hotel Easy Various artists compilation on Virgin records
no date.  There are four Hotel Easy compilations, St Tropez, London,
Rome & Paris. All are excellent  examples of true easy listening and
the cuts are well chosen obscure instrumental gems.  I really
recommend Hotel Easy.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: "And Now A Word From Our Sponsors 1"
Date: 18 Aug 1998 16:28:23 +0200


>From:

><< * Various Artists: "And Now A Word From Our Sponsors 1"
>   (Radio And TV Commercials)
>       CD, East Anglian Productions, UK, 1996
>
>Johan, can you give me a source for locating these please?

    [e-mail]
    http://eastangprod.com

    hope they still work. otherwise: fax: [phone] in the UK.

        Johan


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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Staccato! (plus Hardy)
Date: 18 Aug 1998 12:38:49 -0700



>All the original tunes were written by one Mike Vickers, a name which rings
>a bell but I don't know why... though I assume I'm about to find out.

Mike Vickers wrote and performed:

"On the Brink", 1965 - available on Sound Gallery Volume 2
"Pegasus", 1970 - available on The Sound Spectrum

He also wrote:

"The Snake Pit", performed by Mandingo, 1973 - available on Sound Gallery
Volume 1.

I'm sure others know more, they always do.

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Wow . . . a Bond Girl and Hai Karate
Date: 18 Aug 1998 16:02:32 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-18 13:59:55 EDT, you write:

<< She was also
 a Bond Girl and a Carry On actress.

 Charlie
  >>

Which Bond movie and what Bond girl?

We need details!!!!

Robert


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Vickers
Date: 18 Aug 1998 21:13:36 +0100


Dave mused:
>
>All the original tunes were written by one Mike Vickers, a name which rings
>a bell

He played flute/guitar/sax for the group Manfred Mann in the early 60's,
roughly during the period that Paul Jones was lead singer.

I didn't know that he'd gone on to write for TV and films.  This sort of
'synergy' is what makes this such a useful forum.

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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gravelands again
Date: 18 Aug 1998 22:22:26 +0200


If anyone cares, http://www.roughtrade.com  still has a few copies of
GRAVELANDS by THE KING & THE QUESTIONAIRES (DTKING 50, Dressed to Kill
records, 1997). The King covers your favorite hits from yesterday. Very
happy with my fourth version of Love Will Tear Us Apart though!

tracklist:

    1.Come As You Are
    2.Love Will Tear Use Apart
    3.Working Class Hero
    4.Whiskey In The Jar
    5.Blockbuster
    6.I Heard It Through The Grapevine
    7.No Woman No Cry
    8.All Or Nothing
    9.20th Century Boy
   10.Piece Of My Heart
   11.Dock Of The Bay
   12.Voodoo Chile
   13.Riders On The Storm / The End



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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) African Exotica
Date: 18 Aug 1998 13:30:23 -0700 (PDT)


For a super cool now sound exotica African Groove nothing beats the
song Night Jet by the great Manu Dibango.  I have the song on vinyl on
the Ambassador album but I believe its also available on the Gone
Clear cd.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck




> >Anyone else notice how similar this is to Soul Makosa by...
Scorpio, I think.Well, similar... They're the same song,
basically.Anyone know who came first?
> >Peter

> My bet is Manu Dibango's 1972 release of Soul Makossa came first.
>
> -Lou

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Peru - record shops?  any advice?
Date: 18 Aug 1998 17:09:03 -0400


I'm going to Peru in September for 4 weeks.
Aside from walking up mountains and solving the Yma Sumac riddle, I would
like to get some records.
I recently heard a great morricone cover version (that track which Roy
Budd calls 'hurry to me') on a Venezualan record belonging to a friend,
so I have renewed hope of finding some interesting stuff.

Can anyone recommend any 2nd hand LP sources (Lima, Cuzco, anywhere;
record stores, flea markets, whatever)?

Any advice appreciated (general or vinyl-related), thanks.

Please reply to me off-list (obviously)

regards

Jonny

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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Dialogue for Brass & FAQ list
Date: 18 Aug 1998 18:08:13 PDT


Byron wrote:

<<Just who was behind Dialogue for Brass (Columbia CL 1499)?  Thisalbum of
12 "dialogue" songs was performed by The Brass Choir, but noindividuals or
arrangers listed.  This would have been a great album in stereo(was it
released in stereo?  would have been CS #### in that case) with the
answering back and forth from one channel to the other.  Whilethere is
brass, there is also a good variety of percussion or, as the linernotes
say, "imaginative use of percussion.">>

Apologies if this has already been answered (I'm 36-48 hours behind in
reading digests).  It's likely that the musicians were just hired studio
musicians of the day, but my stereo copy (CS 8290) does mention that Lew
Davies (of Enoch/Command renown) was the arranger for the album.  It's a
nice and fun album album, not unlike the early Command percussion stuff.
Having been recorded in New York, it wouldn't be at all surprising to learn
that some of the musicians were part of the Command cadre.  The stereo
version has a pyramidal illustration of the stereo separation for all the
instruments on the back.

This is really late, but also wanted to chime in and laud Ross's fine
efforts with the FAQs.  The only comment I would add (and this is more a
selfish grumble than criticism) is that part of me didn't like seeing the
thorough and extensive list of "recommended artists / labels / series"
provided to the newbies who are the most likely users of the FAQs.  On a
somewhat lofty or theoretical level, I feel that by recommending those
items we may be depriving people, to some extent, of the experience of
learning on their own and finding out by trial and error what it is that
they like and respond to.  On a more base and selfish level, most of those
things are hard enough to find (on vinyl anyway) already, that I cringe at
the thought of just handing that accumulated wisdom on a platter as it were
to people just discovering this arena of music, and thus making them that
much harder to find!  A somewhat childish reaction to be sure, but I can't
deny that it crossed my mind.  Having said that, I'm not suggesting a
change in the FAQ text, just offering a thought that crossed my mind in
reading that section.

-- Brad


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From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" for August 19, 1998
Date: 18 Aug 1998 18:20:39 -0400


Hi all,

Allan here, former host of The Single Eye (CKUT 90.3 fm in Montreal). I
have a new show called "Mondo Bongos" on CFRU 93.3 fm in Guelph, Ontario.
It can be heard every Wednesday between 9 & 11 am.
Here's the playlist for the debut show...

Preston Epps: Mr Bongos "Lost Treasures"
- great compilation of oddities from the Del-fi label
Dimitri from Paris: Introduction/Sacre Francais "Sacreblue"
- has anyone heard the compilation he made for Mixmag? Any good?
Tipsy: Oops/Ugly Stadium "Trip Tease"
- Hello Tipsydave
Mirageman: Thunder "Mo'Plen 3000"
- excellant cd of proto-acid jazz on the Irma label
United Future Organization: Fool's Paradise "3rd Perspective"
- swinging spy tunes
The James Taylor Quartet: Austin's Theme "Creation"
Vampires Sound Incorporation: Drogue DX 9 "Vampyros Lesbos Sexadelic Dance
Party"
- I've had this cd for a few years & have never grown tired of playing it.
Outstanding psychsploitation
Isaac Hayes: Walk on By "The Best of Isaac Hayes Vol 1"
- the Bacharach/David tune gets the s-t-r-e-c-h-e-d over the top Hayes
treatment
Silver Apples: Oscillations "Silver Apples"
- by the home-built synthesizer & drums duo. recorded in 1968.
The Tornados: Telstar "It's Hard to believe it: The Amazing World of Joe
Meek"
Neu!: Neuschnee "Neu! 2"
- probably the main inspiration for all those early Stereolab releases,
speaking of which...
Stereolab: Jenny Ondioline "Transient Random-Noise bursts with
Announcements
Mr Scruff: Fish "Funkungfusion"
- as discussed on the list.
Monk & Canatella: This Time it's Different "Care in the Community"
Spaceways: Charlie X "Cup of Tea Records - Another Cup"
- trip hop
Air: Modular Mix "Premiers Symptomes"
Thievery Corporation: The Glass Bead Game "Sounds from Thievery Hi Fi"
- smooth grooves from this DJ duo
Amon Tobin: People like Frank "Permutations"
Angelo Badalamenti/Julie Cruise: Falling "Soundtrack from Twin Peaks"
Portishead: Mysterons "Dummy"

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Questions
Date: 18 Aug 1998 20:32:04 -0400


> > which Hawaiian Guy?
> >
> I assumed he was Hawaiian,  I've been away for a week and sped read a
> lot of stuff.  In fact I still think he's Hawaiian.

You probably meant the obituary of Jeffery "Catch" Ketchamori, Don Ho's
guitar player who died when "a stucco wall made to look like lava rock
fell on Ketchamori at Don Ho=92s studio
on Wikiki Beach"

What a great way to go.....sure is a lot more glamerous than dying in an
old folk's home.

I would gladly wade through 1000 lame obituaries to have the pleasure of
reading that one.

Vern


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Subject: Re: (exotica) empty covers
Date: 18 Aug 1998 20:42:35 -0400


>
> Which makes me wonder:  Does anyone routinely buy these empty covers?
> What's a fair amout to expect to spend for them?

I've bought many empty covers.  I used to ask for a discount, but then
one clerk refused to sell one to me, insisting that I search through
many piles to find the 'missing' record.  So now, I'll pay full price
for an empty sleeve....and I won't mind paying 50-99 cents for a great
graphic.

Vern


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Date: 18 Aug 1998 17:04:07 +0000


At 08:42 PM 8/18/98 -0400, Vern wrote:
>I've bought many empty covers.  I used to ask for a discount, but then
>one clerk refused to sell one to me, insisting that I search through
>many piles to find the 'missing' record.

My approach is go to the cashier with the records, topped with the
empty covers.  He or she will start looking in the sleeves and notice
no record.  I will say "I looked for the records (and I DID!) and couldn't
find them."  Half the time I won't get charged anything for them, the
other half I get charged the normal price for a record, 25 cents.

In either case, it works for me.

Byron

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Subject: Re: (exotica) empty covers
Date: 18 Aug 1998 21:50:09 EDT


In a message dated 8/18/98 11:28:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Which makes me wonder:  Does anyone routinely buy these empty covers?
>  What's a fair amout to expect to spend for them?  From one perspective,
>  they're pretty worthless.

At most of the thrifts around here, if I am buying some albums, I can usually
get away with saying,"Hey, these two don't have any record in them.  Do you
mind if I have them."  No one has ever said no to me yet.

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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica in Japan?
Date: 18 Aug 1998 21:39:44 -0400


As I'm sure you all know, Japan has a wonderful exotica/lounge/retro scene.
(If for some reason you don't, run, don't walk, and buy the Sushi 3003
compilation!)  I will be going to Tokyo and Kyoto in October, and was
wondering if anyone had any recommendations for good CD shops for this type
of music.  It's been a few years since I've been, and I'm sure there are
specialty shops for this type of music.

On that note, does anyone have anything by Les 5-4-3-2-1?  Their track on
Sushi 3003, which is a BRILLIANT cover of Bacharach's 'Bond Street' (fr.
Casino Royale) mixed with Stereolab's 'PingPong', is all I've been able to
locate.  I was wondering what the rest of their material sounded like...

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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica in Japan?
Date: 18 Aug 1998 19:18:59 -0700 (PDT)


Right now in Tokyo there is a Gainsbourg film festival going on.  I am sure
there are speciality stores handling 'exotica' in Shinjuku.  The Wave used
to be really good, but ever since the economy went so-so, it is not as good
as it used to be.  I would still check out the store in Roppongi.

Also HMV in Shibuya is really good.  I suggest checking out the Japanese
recordings from the 60's and 50's.  The Wave used to have a retro section
that covers great Japanese pop music.  I strongly suggest the Crazycats!
They were amazing.  Sort of Jerry Lewis meets the Ventures meet Dean Martin
meet cheezy rock n' roll meet traditional Japanese pop music (enka).  There
are a couple of great cd collections.  The one I have is a double cd.  I
think it is called Singles.  Great package of course.  The Crazycats also
did films which are also "wow."

And there are many others.  I bought tons of Japanese vintage pop.  Do
check that scene out.

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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Great Italian Soundtracks
Date: 18 Aug 1998 21:44:11


I just purchased a CD of the soundtrack (TVT 8040-2) from "Big Night", the
1996 film that starred Stanley Tucci, Tony Shalhoub, Minnie Driver
(mmmmmmm!), Isabella Rossellini (MMMMMMMMMMM!!), and Ian Holm.

Now, I realize that "Big Night" isn't an *Italian* film, but the soundtrack
is full of great traditional and Americanized Italian music. Besides the
handful of cuts by Louis Prima (with Keely Smith, Sam Butera and the
Witnesses), there are also a number of songs by a couple of Italian
vocalists (Claudio Villa, Matteo Salvatore) and several tunes from the
films original score. My personal fave from the soundtrack, though, has to
be Rosemary Clooney's "Mambo Italiano".

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) empty covers
Date: 18 Aug 1998 20:03:32 PDT


Yep, to avoid a hassle, I never even bring a cover up if I don't intend
to pay whatever it is they are asking. And there are some very kind
souls among us who provide the covers for others who have found only the
vinyl. I have benefited from this (so, if anyone needs the Schory cover,
The Surfmen's Hawaii, or Lyman's Yellow Bird....).


>> Which makes me wonder:  Does anyone routinely buy these empty covers?
>> What's a fair amout to expect to spend for them?
>I've bought many empty covers.  I used to ask for a discount, but
thenone clerk refused to sell one to me, insisting that I search
throughmany piles to find the 'missing' record.  So now, I'll pay full
pricefor an empty sleeve....and I won't mind paying 50-99 cents for a
great graphic.


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Date: 19 Aug 1998 08:37:56 +0100


I've not had much chance to really sit down and listen to any of these
yet apart from a quick play through,  but I thought it was pretty good.
I preferred side 2 with 'Holiday for percussion' and 'Chinatown my
Chinatown'.  Generally the melodies are played on a xylophone over a
busy percussion rhythm without actually sounding anything more than
languid.  Most of the Stereo Action bits seem to come from these big
brassy stabs that career around the speakers at various climactic
moments.  Bear in mind these are first impressions while unpacking and
sorting stuff out,  but I will be playing it out.  Hmmmm I like it.

Il Maestro Con Queso

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> I just found the empty cover for this one (well, it had an Reader's
> Digest producedAl Caiola lp inside): did I miss out on much?
>
>
> >
> >Dick Schory's Percussion Pops Orchestra    Holiday for Percussion
> A
> >'Stereo Action' LP but with a normal sleeve(No Die Cut Card) on a
> green
> >RCA label.
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From: [e-mail] (kevin lee)
Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas, Staccato
Date: 19 Aug 1998 00:41:39 -0700



>Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:57:08 +0100
>From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas and The Big Boss?
>
>I want help from resident Peter Thomas/Kung Fu Soundtrack experts!
>
>I was watching the Bruce Lee film "The Big Boss" last night for the
>first time. As soon as the title music came on, I recognized it as a
>Peter Thomas composition (sure enough, I checked, and it's on the
>Polydor "Easy Lounging" Thomas compilation: "Big Boss" from "Der

Forgive me if this has been covered recently... but when was this "easy
lounging"
comp released and is it easy to get?  the only PT comp i'm aware of is the
futurmuzik comp.  are there other PT re-releases i should know about other than
Raumpotrille?

in case anyone didn't knot PT did the soundtrack to the film "chariots of the
gods" which i recommend even though it's not quite as great as the above
mentioned
releases.  has someone got a good Peter Thomas discography?  or can someone
point me to
an approximate date for the exotica archives?

....Nat said:
>"STACCATO", the Elmer Bernstein score to the television series which
>starred my hero John Cassavettes as a jazz piano-playing private detective.

i finally got a chance to see (on film no less) 2 episodes of staccato here
in LA thanks
to the american cinematheque.  also on the program was an episode of alfred
hitchcock
presents starring gena rowlands.  the staccato episodes were.... well,
frankly nothing
to write home about.  it's not bad, but not exactly pulse-pounding
excitement.  i got the
sense that cassavettes (who directed them too) was just cranking these out,
which i
think was the case, in order to make money to use for his own films.

however, this was all nothing compared to my brush with fame, meeting
cassavettes/rowlands'
daughter.... (i think there's two, but only one showed up)  and catching a
glimpse of
seymour cassell.

sorry for getting "off topic" a bit.

kevin "i'm back, i'm gone, i'm back" leeeeee



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From: [e-mail] (kevin lee)
Subject: (exotica) Music By George! and recent euro-comps
Date: 19 Aug 1998 00:41:44 -0700


hi all!
i dunno if anyone remembers me or not or cares, but anyway i'm back on tha
list (for now)...

recent finds:

"Music By George!"  composed and conducted by George Romanis
mono  (Futura Music)  featuring "original music from  Medical Center,
Hawaii Five-O, Mod Squad, Storefront Lawyers, The New People".
this is pretty much all the info that came with this album.  can anyone
explain this thing to me?  did george romanis write the music for all those
tv shows?  who is george?  the odd thing about this is that the tracks are
all pretty much incidental music, with only a few sounding like actual
themes.  was this any good?  some of it's great with funky weird
instrumentation.  some of it is hum drum but overall i've found this to be
one of the more intriguing and strange things i've come across.  the cover
totally sucks ass though.  looks like crayon scratches on cardboard.

"mini pops"  a compilation on Ronco that features children singing 80's new
wave pop hits.  truly mind-numbing.  the cover is a pedophile's dream come
true.

"the happy puppy"  bent fabric.  sounds like either prepared or tape echoed
piano playing nifty ditties for you to play with your pets to.

recent comps bought and dug:

"Dimenzions in Sound: Volume 3" (Trip 6203)
i dig this lots.  good euro sixties soundtrack stuff.  can anyone recommend
the first two volumes?  are there more??

"Stereo Ultra: a Colletion of 70's Furious French Soundtracks" (Big Cheese
Records)
i dug this even more!  are there other great releases by Big Cheese?

"Orchestral Party Act 2" (Saint Germain desPres)
i dug this as much, maybe more!  is there an act 1?  act 3?

"Bite Hard: The Music De Wolfe Studio Sampler 1972-80" (Barely Breaking Even)
compiled by joel martin and mark b. special.  this is some solid solid
groovy shit.
most of it sounds like 70's tv cop show stuff, reminding me of the sound
gallery comps.  a lot of it is very minimal instrumentation, a little bit o
electronics, bass, drums, guitar.  no vox.  very raw.

forgive me if these releases have been discussed already...  i also am
curious about these other amazingly EXPENSIVE import comps from europe, if
anyone would like to recommend/dis-recommend these:

Mood Mosaic comps
Stroboscopia (Plastic)
Sonorizzazioni Psycho Beat
Nino Nardini and Pop Riviera Group (Desco Records)
Scoctopus (schema?) (Octopus Records)

any other must-get comps of the 60's euro/psych/soundtrack kind recently
released?
is it possible/likely that scamp or some domestics will distribute more of
this sort of thing?   otherwise i'll go broke!

thanks,
kevin leeeeeee


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From: [e-mail] (kevin lee)
Subject: (exotica) tape trade?
Date: 19 Aug 1998 00:41:54 -0700


ok,
me again, one last time!

i'd love to trade mix tapes with youz!  i'm into everything, as long as it
sounds good.  but i especially like moog, psych, incr.strange, euro
soundtracks, sexploitation, blaxploitation.....

email me private-like and let's us talk, okay?

for those with whom i've traded in the past, i've got a new mix tape and am
working on a new one that should be a "hoot".

cheers,
kevin leeeee

ps  other things i have to offer for trade are video dubs of odds and ends:

burt bachrach profile on PBS (darn good)
dusty springfield profile on Bravo (great archival footage)
Lots o carpenters things including the made for tv movie
beach boys profile
i just wasn't made for these times (brian wilson doc.)
wattstax documentary (aweSOME)
random ephemera
videos on amp (mtv) - the earlier more experimental days of amp
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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Vickers
Date: 19 Aug 1998 09:18:15 +0100


I just got offered a Mike Vickers KPM library record last week from 1973
called 'A Moog For All Reasons' - I suppose this is a play on the John
Gregory LP 'A Man for all Seasons' (I didn't buy it). Anyway, Mike was a
stalwart of that EMI/Abbey Road set - arranger, composer etc. He's also
mentioned in the book 'Good Vibrations which deals with the history of
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Brudershaft des 80mm
Date: 19 Aug 1998 11:53:22 +0000


> i've been trying to find a source for 50 or 100 of those 80mm to 120mm CD
> adapter rings that you had a couple of.  i've had absolutely no luck
> finding anything in the US.  ...disgusted when the guys at an audiophile
> shop i asked in thought that the 3" i showed them was a minidisc.

a friend asked me this and I thought maybe someone from the list might have
an idea...

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wow . . . a Bond Girl and Hai Karate
Date: 19 Aug 1998 12:26:49 +0100


Further to my previous post,

>Which Bond movie and what Bond girl?

Valerie was the Hai Karate girl through most of the seventies.
She was also a Bond Girl in The Spy who Loved Me and Never say Never Again.
Had a big part in Carry On Girls
and a Hammer Horror film whose title I can't remember
The Italian Job (hotel room scene)
Occasional model
Royal Variety Show performer (with Morecambe and WIse I think)

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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lester Lanin Meets Barbarella
Date: 19 Aug 1998 04:50:07


A recent choice find:

Narrowing the Generation Gap, by Lester Lanin and His Orchestra
Metromedia MD 1006

Lanin, the king of the New York society band contractors--he's probably got
a band playing at some charity ball or wedding reception in Manhattan or
Long Island tonight--hired Charles Fox (of "Barbarella" fame) to arrange a
set of late 60s hits:  "Ob La Di, Ob La Da," "Dizzy," "Acquarius," "Stand."
 Vinnie Bell's watery guitar can be heard throughout a session of
pumped-up, swinging numbers.  Most of Lanin's albums--he recorded about 163
for Epic in the late 50s and early 60s--are pretty pallid, but this is
worth a listen.

A recent great thrift store disappointment:

In amongst a great pile of worthless crapola records--a near-mint dust
jacket of "Adventures in Carols," one of Ferrante & Teicher's earliest
prepared piano LPs.  Slide out the near-mint inner sleeve.  Gasp in
amazement.  Slide out record . . . piece one.  Piece two.  Piece three.
Sob in mourning.

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) empty covers
Date: 18 Aug 1998 12:34:16 -0400


At 11:25 AM 18/08/98 -0400, Chris Cook wrote:
>
>Which makes me wonder:  Does anyone routinely buy these empty covers?
>What's a fair amout to expect to spend for them?  From one perspective,
>they're pretty worthless. But, then again, a reasonable, similar argument
>could be made about most of the music I listen to! :)

At most Goodwill stores, the cover is a quarter, I thought... or half the
price of a record.  Some of them won't sell you the cover unless you can
somehow convince them that the record is nowhere to be found, which is why
I usually put any old record inside, just to avoid the argument.

I buy records just for the cover all the time.  And I keep those records in
a separate cabinet.

What I hate is when I play the record and the music is actually too "good"
to put it in the cabinet with the other covers.  Things would be much
clearer if all the spectacular covers - especially the cheesecake ones -
were in that cabinet instead of having some of them scattered among the
"legitimate" musical offerings but alas, that clarity eludes me.

I have no problem buying a record for the cover.  Someday I'll have a
website and scan in these "Philco Presents" records I have.

I kind of doubt I'd even be into most of the music discussed on this list
if I hadn't been initially attracted by the covers.  And it's still a big
part of it.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 2 questions
Date: 19 Aug 1998 19:09:36 +0000


Ben Waugh wrote:

> 1.Does anyone know of a potentially safe way to unwarp a record?

I never did it but I've seen it in Tele some 20 years ago: Press record firmly
between two panes of glass with clemps and put it in boiling hot water for a
minute. Let it turn cold and finally open the clemps.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Also Known As
Date: 19 Aug 1998 19:11:10 +0000


Mysterious Milt Raskin.  I've got 3 LPs of him, the third one just 3
days ago and they all contain the very same pieces, only in a different
course. The first I found years ago in a thrift in Denver, it's called
"Kapu". Then I got "Exotic percussion" and now it's "Exotic Tahiti", all
basically the same. Who is this guy anyway? Obviously he has made ONE
LP...

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Friends of Dean Martinez -- Retrograde
Date: 18 Aug 1998 19:50:52 +0200


Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>


>Quick note -- just purchased this evening:
>Friends of Dean Martinez -- Retrograde

    welcome aboard, Andrew!
    is this "Retrograde" as good as (or the same type of stuff as)
    their debut "Shadow of your smile"?

        Johan


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) home taping is enjoying music
Date: 19 Aug 1998 19:34:29 +0000


There is nothing like being introduced to a private record collection
personally! It happened to me the other night when visiting my old
friend Frank in D=FCsseldorf. And the best thing about it was, that he wa=
s
so nice to tape the records that he played for me at the same time. So I
could really enjoy the show, knowing I would take all of these great
songs home, at least on tape. He mostly played his 7" singles, these
were the highlights:

Let's go to Hawaii     *The Rivieras
Arizona Train     *Jim Carter & die Texas Rangers
The Big Bamboo     *Confidential Club Orchestra
Samba Savanna     *Pierre Barough
Cat Woman     *Abaco Dream
Walking my cat named dog     *Barry McGuire
Hot Spot     *Bob Moore & Orchestra & Chorus
Paper Tiger     *Sue Thompson
Run through the Jungle     *Eyes of Medusa
Traffic in my mind     *The Osmonds (from an LP called "The Plan")
Mirror Mirror     *The Osmonds ("The Plan")
I found my love in Portofino     *Fred Buscaglione
Topless dancers of Korfu     *Dick Hyman (from LP "First Class Stereo")
Bond Street      *Doc Severinsen & Strings
And now the news     *The Hellers

I haven't heard most of these names ever, but some of these tracks are
just my kind of music! What a great evening!

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gene Rains
Date: 19 Aug 1998 19:39:10 +0000


Hi Ross!

I've got my first Gene Rains LP, "Rains in Tropics". It's nice and
simple. I like it!

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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Funk)
Subject: (exotica) Fun and Lounging in Las Vegas
Date: 19 Aug 1998 10:14:58 -1000


Picked up the CD last night, "Fun & Lounging in Las Vegas" on the Hip-O
label. I remembered seeing the track listing posted here a while ago.

The cover art is a hilariously blatant attempt to appeal to the Cigar &
Martini neo-lounge crowd.

The closest comparison I can think of here is to the "Golden Throats"
series on Rhino.  In fact, both the "Fun & Lounging" and "G.T." CDs include
William Shatner's unforgivable rendition of "Lucy In The Sky With
Diamonds".

Other cheese-drenched chestnuts include Liberace's "Na Na Na Na, Hey Hey
Hey, Goodbye", Enoch Light's "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" and Mel Torme's
"Secret Agent Man".  Also enjoy campy contributions by Tom Jones, Ed Ames,
Martin Denny, Roger Williams, Jack Jones, and Ann Margaret.

All in all, this is wonderfully horrible pop "culture" at it's best. Fans
of "high camp" will not be disappointed. More discriminating listeners will
be repulsed. Fortunately, I am not one of those.

Funk's Big Score: 9/10


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica in Japan?
Date: 19 Aug 1998 14:25:15 -0400


> I strongly suggest the Crazycats!
> They were amazing.  Sort of Jerry Lewis meets the Ventures meet Dean Martin
> meet cheezy rock n' roll meet traditional Japanese pop music (enka).  There
> are a couple of great cd collections.  The one I have is a double cd.  I
> think it is called Singles.  Great package of course.  The Crazycats also
> did films which are also "wow."

"Outre" issue #12 (Spring issue) had a 5 or 6 page article on the Crazy Cats.

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 19 Aug 1998 14:29:48 -0400


> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
Not really - I once played bass in a very short-lived punk rock band,
long long ago - I only learned three chords (that was the idea) and we
never ended up performing in public (which is probably a good thing!).=20
Now I play other people's music on the radio once a week, which is just
fine with me!

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
Esquivel's "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music" turned a minor interest into a
full-blown addiction!

> 3. This list could help you more by... =20
It's pretty helpful already - no complaints!

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
I'm not really a big collector - books and records aside, of course!  I
do have a collection of (non-electric) coffee makers and tea pots,
including several glass ones from the 1950s.   And lately, I've been
acquiring 1990's versions of 1950's and 60's-inspired furniture=20

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
Late =9170s/early =9180s new wave, punk, industrial, neue Deutsche welle,
surf & drag, Pascal Comelade, early Michael Nyman, The Residents,
classical, opera, and just general weirdness!

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
I know the real identity of "Nat Kone" (okay, here goes - he's really
Hagood Hardy!?!)

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quali=
ty
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?=
=20
CD for ease of use, LP for the covers (can you really see details like
the hairpin on the cover of "Exotica" on a CD?)  Given a choice with a
new release, I'll take the CD, but older stuff is always LP.

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it=
 or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
No fez.  I have a pair of 60's-inspired black cat's-eye sunglasses. I
also covet the capri pants worn on the cover of The Ventures "Walk,
Don't Run" LP.  Some day, I'll find a pair like that for myself...

> 9. Shaken or stirred?
Red wine, please.

> 10. I clean my LPs with ...
A Discwasher and D4 fluid.  A Nitty Gritty Record Cleaner is on my list
of things to buy if the pathetic Canadian dollar ever regains its value!

> 11. My home page URL is:
Still working on it...

> 12. I have a Licence To ...
Be right all the time (just ask Brian!)=20


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Good Venezuelan CD
Date: 19 Aug 1998 21:28:44 -0400


> I recently heard a great morricone cover version (that track which Roy
> Budd calls 'hurry to me') on a Venezualan record belonging to a friend,
> so I have renewed hope of finding some interesting stuff.

On a related note, I just bought a neat-o CD from a group called 'Los
Amigos Invisibles' entitled 'The New Sound of the Venezuelan Gozadera'
Its put out on the Luaka Bop / Warner Brothers label (1998).

I was at a CD listening station and sampled a cut called 'Ultra-Funk'
and was immediately sold....wanted to start dancing and singing along
even though I had headphones on and couldn't understand a single word of
Spanish.  They've captured much of the sounds of the early 70's (the
good ones) and wanted to post a recommendation to the others on the
list...I'm sure most of you will like it. It even has one cut that
incorporates the sound of the needle touching down on the vinyl, then
lifting up at the songs conclusion....gotta love it

The cover features a pool-side shot of the six band members eyeing a
bikini clad woman walking away from them.

It appears that there is some very good stuff happening down in
Venezuela.


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) home taping is enjoying music
Date: 20 Aug 1998 11:45:19 +0000


Brian Phillips wrote:

> >Topless dancers of Korfu     *Dick Hyman (from LP "First Class Stereo")
>
> This version does or does not have a Synthesizer?

It does.

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: France Gall (was: Serge Gainsbourg)
Date: 20 Aug 1998 04:09:01 -0600



>> I recently bought "1968" by France Gall. Very hip indeed!
>
>    i've only got 1 lp by her, "France Gall", a comp from 1989.
>    i think it's on cd as Philips 839 627, from France. the 2
>    best songs, ("jazz a gogo" and "le coeur qui jazze") are also
>    featured on some recent italian comps (probably the "Mood Mosaic")
>    the other songs on that France Gall comp are nice, but non as hip and
>    jazzzzzzzzzy as those 2 mentioned, and i wonder if the "1968" has
>    more of those. here's the track list for that "France Gall" lp:


I actually like the other songs on the compilation a lot better. I don't
like her jazzy stuff as much - although they are great too. It is very sweet
pop music in a French stylee. "1968" is great, but in my opinion, the
recently re-released "Baby Pop" is even better. I'm just listening to her
German sung CD "Die Beste in Deutsch" which I think is also fab. Some is a
little bland, but all very poppy and cute. I'm wondering what other LPs she
did in the 60s that are in this cool mood. Does anyone know so I can track
them down? I have seen a cool Japanese CD series with 3 volumes, I think,
but on each CD I think I have a third to half of the tracks. HELP?!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Good Venezuelan CD
Date: 20 Aug 1998 12:32:43 +0200



>It appears that there is some very good stuff happening down in
>Venezuela.


And in Ecuador too... I remember hearing the former president
Abdullah Buccaram, alias El Loco,  singing a cover in Spanish
from Elvis' Jailhouse Rock. Apparantly there's an album full
of this stuff, does anyone know more (tracklist)?

Ton


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Sent from: mediageist  <[e-mail]>

    Sciborg Sam and the Robopimps
    Friday, July 24, 8 pm

Out of nowhere Sciborg Sam takes the stage at 8:30pm, part human and
part plastic armor with exposed wires and christmas lights
attached. Elastic waist cinchers wrap a breast-plate snugly around his
torso. Fitted onto Sam's helmet, covering the left eye, a static
monicle was the best looking piece of robot gear. I had expected much
more of a serious tech element to the sciborg get-up, not to mention
the promised and missing "cyberchick dancers". The drummer, donning a
similar looking plastic bronze helmet topped with a menacing spike,
laid out pretty standard blues-rock beats. As a two-piece, Sciborg
Sam's slip-sloppy guitar riffs needed the consistency of bass
underneath them. Attendees poked around the stacks sipping wine and
munching on carrots, ocassionally laughing as Sam screamed about the
horrors of pork.

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What's Cool in Chicago?
Date: 20 Aug 1998 07:43:07 -0700 (PDT)


I'm going to Chicago tomorrow, Friday, and I wanted to know if there
are any cool places I should visit.  I wish I would have posted this
sooner.  Any recommendations you give me today are greatly appreciated.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) home taping is enjoying music
Date: 20 Aug 1998 17:24:43 +0000


Jill Mingo wrote:

> >Topless dancers of Korfu     *Dick Hyman (from LP "First Class Stereo")
>
> MO,
>
> Certainly you know this is from his MOOG LP, ja? It is one of two good
> tracks on the LP, in my opinion...

"MOOG LP"? You mean "First class Stereo" is just a reissue, sort of "best
of" album or something?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) What's Cool in Chicago?
Date: 20 Aug 1998 17:41:56 +0000


I expect thousands of replies to this question, but yes, the best Trader
Vic's seems to be in Chicago. You knew I would suggest that, right?

MO



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From: Peter Ledebur <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) empty covers
Date: 20 Aug 1998 11:51:02 -0400


Chris Cook <[e-mail]> writes:

>Does anyone routinely buy these empty covers?

If I come across a cover that I *must* have, I always find a sleeveless
record to put in it. It doesn't have to be amazing or anything. A kid's
record in fair shape, another Jim & Tammy album... anything like that.
That way it's not as though I paid full price for an empty sleeve AND I
get a record that I probably wouldn't have bought without the cover (in
some cases even if it *had* had the cover) that just might be a gem.
Sometimes you get a dud, but sometimes it totally pays off.


>Really upset to have found an empty 101 Strings Backbeat
>Symphony.  Always wanted to hear that one ...

It's not as great as you'd hope, though it does have its moments.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) empty covers
Date: 20 Aug 1998 10:30:06 PDT



Better, if only for "Blues for the Guru" and its electric sitar lead, is
101 Strings Play the Hits of The Beatles.
>
>>Really upset to have found an empty 101 Strings Backbeat
>>Symphony.  Always wanted to hear that one ...
>
>It's not as great as you'd hope, though it does have its moments.


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Subject: (exotica) Re: Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" for August 19, 1998
Date: 20 Aug 1998 15:26:05 +0200


>From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>


>United Future Organization: Fool's Paradise "3rd Perspective"
>- - swinging spy tunes


    please tell me/us more about this one, i guess it's a new group?
    i haven't heard from it yet...

        Johan


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Subject: (exotica) Re: Peter Thomas
Date: 20 Aug 1998 15:47:28 +0200


[e-mail] (kevin lee) wrote:

>Forgive me if this has been covered recently... but when was this "easy
>lounging"
>comp released and is it easy to get?  the only PT comp i'm aware of is the
>futurmuzik comp.  are there other PT re-releases i should know about other
>than
>Raumpotrille?

    these are the "PT" releases currently available:

100% Cotton (The complete Jerry Cotton Edition)
Erinnerungen an die Zukunft (Chariots of the Gods)
Orion 2000
Raumpatrouille (includes 3 bonus tracks)
Raumpatrouille (Space patrol)
Easy loungin'. Twenty easy listening classics
FutureMuzik
Kriminalfilmmusik
The Jerry Cotton Special collector's box (limited edition, deluxe,
numbered, J.C shirt, FBI-tie, Cotton lighter, poster, postcard)

    for label details, check out
        The "eXotica Releases Overview": <http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/>




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Subject: (exotica) Re: Gravelands
Date: 20 Aug 1998 15:18:51 +0200


"Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>GRAVELANDS by THE KING & THE QUESTIONAIRES (DTKING 50, Dressed to Kill
>records, 1997). The King covers your favorite hits from yesterday. Very
>happy with my fourth version of Love Will Tear Us Apart though!

    are these instrumental or vocal versions? is it serious lounge,
    or camp or novelty?

        Johan


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) buying a house for records
Date: 20 Aug 1998 11:32:19 +0000


Seems like one of the things I will have to look for when buying a house
is its load potential. I, no doubt, could fill a 10 x 10 room.  In one
configuration, I estimate I can get a total of 18,500 records in such a room
allowing for full access (not stacked in boxes but organized in shelves).
I don't want to buy a house which can't support that weight (someone on
this list has said this can be a problem) concentrated in one area. So,
what is the average weight of an LP (with cover, etc.)?  I don't have
scales for such a measurement.

The next step, of course, is getting someone to test a floor's load weight
for a house I may be interested in.  I'm sure this is not an item of
concern to most homebuyers, so it may be difficult to find someone who can
help.

Byron

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wow . . . a Bond Girl and Hai Karate
Date: 20 Aug 1998 16:12:36 -0400


It took me a while, but here is a picture of her:


http://www.carryonline.com/carry/newsfrm.html



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Subject: (exotica) Re: United Future Organization (was Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" for August 19, 1998)
Date: 20 Aug 1998 17:11:16 -0400




Regarding:

> >United Future Organization: Fool's Paradise "3rd Perspective"
> >- - swinging spy tunes

Johan asked:

>     please tell me/us more about this one, i guess it's a new group?
>     i haven't heard from it yet...

Well newish, The United Future Organization's "3rd Perspective" (Antilles
314 534 487-2) was released in 1996, but is still available. A listener to
my former radio show recommended the group to me, and when I checked their
cd at a local record shop I was sold (the sticker on the case said
"Swinging spy tunes from the Japanese cosmic DJ collective", or words to
that effect).

What do they sound like? Upbeat, spy-music influenced tunes: far better &
more consistent than the Propellerheads, more symphonic than the James
Taylor Quartet due to the samples & they lack the "kitsch" aspect of
Dimitri from Paris. Variety is added to the disk by the addition of a
couple of vocal numbers (a few in French) & latin-influenced cuts.

Nice one overall.

Allan

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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 20 Aug 1998 21:08:25 -0400


Wow, Cheryl...you're the first Pascal Comelade fan I've come across on th=
e
net.  I love his stuff -- I have about 4-5 CDs by him.  Have you heard hi=
s
new one (with PJ Harvey on it?)

>> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
>Late =9170s/early =9180s new wave, punk, industrial, neue Deutsche welle=
,
>surf & drag, Pascal Comelade, early Michael Nyman, The Residents,
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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: United Future Organization (was Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" for August 19, 1998)
Date: 20 Aug 1998 21:26:08 -0400


An earlier release, 'No Sound is Too Taboo' was one of my favorite new
releases of 1995.  It's more acid-jazzy, but very, very original.  Certainly
qualifies for this list.  Whereas not all tracks are perfect, the last track
on the album is a bossa-nova beat/melody backed up by a famous choir from
Estonia -- it is beauty with a capital B.

We should trade MP3 files, for evaluation only of course. ;-)

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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Friends of Dean Martinez -- Retrograde
Date: 20 Aug 1998 21:04:40 -0400


Thanks for the welcome.

I've only given 'Retrograde' one listen, but yes, it is as good as (maybe
better) and in the same vain as their first record.  There's a GREAT cover
of 'I Will Wait For You' from Les Parapluis des Cherbourg.  Very cool....


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>
>Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
>
>
>>Quick note -- just purchased this evening:
>>Friends of Dean Martinez -- Retrograde
>
> welcome aboard, Andrew!
> is this "Retrograde" as good as (or the same type of stuff as)
> their debut "Shadow of your smile"?
>
>        Johan
>
>
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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) buying a house for records
Date: 21 Aug 1998 10:58:12 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:

> I don't want to buy a house which can't support that weight (someone on
> this list has said this can be a problem) concentrated in one area. So,
> what is the average weight of an LP (with cover, etc.)?  I don't have
> scales for such a measurement.

That can indeed be a problem. There is a story about a Dutch
book-collector who had to move his collection because the walls of his
house were coming down. There is also a Belgian collector of comic-books
who bought the house nex-door, just to store his enormous collection.
Wow, I hope I will end up like that...

Marco


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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) buying a house for records
Date: 21 Aug 1998 10:33:41 +0100


I had a friend who had his records in the basement. The problem was, he had
so many and they were so heavy that the house slooooowly sunk into the
ground, dragged down by the weight of his records. One morning, he woke up
and couldn't get out of the house because his front and back door were
wedged closed by the surrounding earth. When he went for the windows, he
saw that he and his house were slowly descending into the ground. By
mid-afternoon, he was trapped and even the upstairs windows were
inaccessible. Passers by reported later that they had heard eerie music
emanating from a large hole near the Rochester bypass.

On a more serious note, there is a DJ and dance music website which I
visited long ago (so no WWW I'm afraid) which asked various DJs where they
store their records. David Morales and others of his ilk talked about
20-50,000 records stored in storage depots, warehouses, bedrooms, offices
and how they were catalogued. Fascinating. What must it be like to have
more records than you could ever cope with or play? Cool!



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Subject: Re: (exotica) What's Cool in Chicago?
Date: 21 Aug 1998 12:18:14 +0000


chuck wrote:

> Thanks,  I'm definitely going to make it there, I should have known
> you'd recommend this.  Want to meet me there?  Give me your phone
> number and I'll give you a call.

If you pay me the flight I'd love to go to Chikago and meet you there. I
guess you're under the false impression I'm living there, but I live
about 4800 km away. Toobad, but we have a pretty nice Trader Vic's here
as well...

MO



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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica in Japan?
Date: 21 Aug 1998 04:58:28 PDT



Has anyone else heard or heard of "A Rainy Night In Tokyo: Modern Pop
Music From Japan"? (I forget the composer's name) It is an interesting
blend and of classical Japanese and western pop music. All of the songs
are Japanese - no covers of American standards. I believe it's on the
Capitol label, late 1950's, early "60's. Definitely one to look out for.


>As I'm sure you all know, Japan has a wonderful exotica/lounge/retro
scene.
>(If for some reason you don't, run, don't walk, and buy the Sushi 3003
>compilation!)

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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sale List
Date: 21 Aug 1998 05:01:36


I have a new list of LPs I'm weeding out of my collection for sale.  Please
email me at [e-mail] if you want a copy.

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List
Date: 21 Aug 1998 11:17:31 -0400


At 02:29 PM 19/08/98 -0400, cheryl wrote:
>
>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
>I know the real identity of "Nat Kone" (okay, here goes - he's really
>Hagood Hardy!?!)

You tell someone your name.  It turns out you have a few mutual friends.
You offer to meet them and you even make them a tape so that your first
meeting can be an exchange of music and not just handshakes.

Of course they never show up for the meeting.

But from then on, they think they know you.

In fact, they think they OWN you.

Oh well, live and learn.

In any case, I guess it's okay now to tell you all about the Hagood Hardy
webpage, which I'm certain must exist.  In it, one of my many fans,
discusses how my time with Martin Denny - or was it Arthur Lyman (I
sometimes mix the two of them up)? - prepared me for my return to Canada
where I battled Frank Mills for the crown of the Canadian King of Pop.

I guess I don't have to tell you who won that battle.

Actually if you've never heard any of my records, they're not as bad as
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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Room on the airwaves
Date: 21 Aug 1998 08:33:55 PDT


One of my agents in the street phoned in to report news that she knew I
would take as glad tidings: a local WDC station was playing Disney's "In
the Tiki... Room." Apparently this was done in support of the stations
current gimmick: several people are forced to live in a jeep in order to
collect on some kind of hep whim-wham. Part of the Mickey Mouse de Sade
torture routine is subjecting the victims to an uninterrupted marathon
of what the djs consider to be godawful music. I assume they have never
heard a Paul Williams album.... (or an lp of populart melodies played on
antique music boxes).

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica in Japan?
Date: 21 Aug 1998 11:45:12 -0400


At 04:58 AM 21/08/98 PDT, Ben Waugh wrote:

>Has anyone else heard or heard of "A Rainy Night In Tokyo: Modern Pop
>Music From Japan"? (I forget the composer's name) It is an interesting
>blend and of classical Japanese and western pop music. All of the songs
>are Japanese - no covers of American standards. I believe it's on the
>Capitol label, late 1950's, early "60's. Definitely one to look out for.

As far as composers go, most of the tunes are listed as "traditional".
However the producer and arranger is Hachidai Nakamura.
I can't determine the date but for some reason I'm going to guess early
60's more than 50's.
And it's a cool record.  Very cool considering I bought it as much for the
cover and for the "idea" as much as anything else.
In fact, I'd have a hard time comparing the brand of exoticism here to any
other record.  This is actually a serious and semi-successful attempt to
blend Eastern and Western influences.  I expected it to be way goofier and
maybe I'd even like it more if it were just a bit but still I have to give
them points for taking the project seriously.

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bruce Haack Reissue
Date: 21 Aug 1998 09:23:57 -0700


Available Now!

2-LP Version Gatefold, Glossy Cover
9 CD Copies

$22 each plus shipping

Just got in a great new CD of stuff from a guy name of Bruce Haack
He made weird records with tons of pop electronics, in the 60's for
children with his long time asst. name of Miss
Nelson.

I also just got an original (for myself) called Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson
"The Way Out Record for Children" and that along with a lot of his other
records which I don't have are on this
reissue!

He also made a KILLER electronic psych record on Columbia with awesome
electronified and psychedelisized
Voices called "The Electric Lucifer" that is WAAAAAAAAY COOOOOOOOOL and a
few titles from that are on
here as well!

They are by the same people in West Germany that did the "Electronic Toys" CD

It's called "Hush Little Robot" and it's $22 plus postage

Titles;  Electric To Me Turn (Electric Lucifer LP), This Old Man, Bods,
Elizabesth Foster Goose, Four Dances,
Wooden Bread, Program Me(Electric Lucifer )LP, School For Robots, Shine On,
Rubberbands, War, Chant of
The Unicorn, Incantation, Song of The Death Machine(Electric Lucifer LP),
Word Game(Electric Lucifer LP),
Thank You, Campus Radio Voice A,
Campus Radio Voice B.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica in Japan?
Date: 21 Aug 1998 19:34:08 +0000


Really early exotica revivalists from Japan:

"Water Melon". In 1984 (even earlier than the Throbbing Gristle record
with Cosi Fanni Tutti as Sandy Warner) they already had a record not
only with Exotica music (own and Denny-covers) but with an "Exotica 1"
cover version featuring a non-japanese "white" girl as the Miss Exotica.
The whole title of that album was "Snakeman Show presents Melon and
Exotic Sounds of Water Melon Group at Pithecantropus Erectus" (which was
a club in Tokyo) Produced by Moichi Kuwahara, directed (?) by Takaharu
Kobayashi (hey, that name sounds familiar in a way...) Maybe some
Japanese list members can tell us more about it.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica in Japan? Yes!
Date: 21 Aug 1998 20:01:27 +0200


Moritz R wrote:
>
> Really early exotica revivalists from Japan:
>
> "Water Melon". In 1984 (even earlier than the Throbbing Gristle record
> with Cosi Fanni Tutti as Sandy Warner) they already had a record not
> only with Exotica music (own and Denny-covers) but with an "Exotica 1"
> cover version featuring a non-japanese "white" girl as the Miss Exotica.
> The whole title of that album was "Snakeman Show presents Melon and
> Exotic Sounds of Water Melon Group at Pithecantropus Erectus" (which was
> a club in Tokyo) Produced by Moichi Kuwahara, directed (?) by Takaharu
> Kobayashi (hey, that name sounds familiar in a way...) Maybe some
> Japanese list members can tell us more about it.

Well, I am not exactly Japanese (I'm from Holland - does that count?),
but a Japanese guy I trade tapes and records with sent me this lp a
couple of months ago. He wrote that it is already quite rare in Japan.
It's actually a nice album. One side (they call it the "watermelon
side") sounds really exotic. It has versions of 'Tune from Rangoon',
"Misirlou' and "Fly me to the moon' (with altered lyrics - if I remeber
correctly they managed to sneak the the word f*ck somewhere in
there...).
One reason why this is an interesting album is because it features a guy
names Yann Tomita (not to be confused with Isao Tomita, the
synth-player). I have a great double-cd and some tapes by Yann Tomita
and I can recommend his music to anyone on this list. His work includes
all kinds of 'found' sounds, electronics, hip-hop beats, steel-drums
(lots of 'em!) and weird vocals. His cd Music from Astro Age features
one or two coverversions of compositions by Sun Ra.
He also worked with 2 girls who call themselves 'Doopees'. They are also
highly reccomended!
I have some nice tapes with other Japanese artists, including Cornelius,
Fancy Face Groovy Name, Kahimi Karie, Miharu Koshi and Swing Slow. All
intersting and exotic in one way or another.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A Dream
Date: 21 Aug 1998 14:09:55 -0400


The other night I had this record-related dream:

I had a very mysterious Esquivel record -- no cover, slightly odd size, and the
record was made of a red, waxy material -- not vinyl. It didn't have a title --
it was an EP I think, but I'd never heard of any of the track titles. So I put
it on, and it was really beautiful, soaring music. "I wonder if Br. Cleve knows
about this?" I thought. "I'll definitely have to ask the list about it."

By the end, I noticed that the record was no longer round, but was a weird,
abstract, geometric shape. And rather than the record spinning, the multiple
(!) tonearms did all of the moving -- sweeping back and forth, tracing
convoluted, impossible groove paths. Worse yet, I realized that long shards of
the waxy material were peeling away in the needles' wake. It was obviously
designed to work that way, but I couldn't imagine how the record could possibly
survive.


sometimes a moving coil cartridge is just a moving coil cartridge,

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Subject: Re: (exotica) A Dream
Date: 21 Aug 1998 11:54:28 PDT





>sometimes a moving coil cartridge is just a moving coil cartridge,

Sometimes, but not often. Always be a gentleman and keep your yurt free
of sharp objects.

Young and easily frightened,

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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Gravelands
Date: 21 Aug 1998 21:00:01 +0200



>>GRAVELANDS by THE KING & THE QUESTIONAIRES (DTKING 50, Dressed to Kill
>>records, 1997). The King covers your favorite hits from yesterday. Very
>>happy with my fourth version of Love Will Tear Us Apart though!

>are these instrumental or vocal versions? is it serious lounge,
>or camp or novelty?

Novelty I guess. All vocal versions, music (played by a bunch of session
musicians I reckon) is as close as possible to the original. The vocals are
sung by a very good Elvis impersonator. A good laugh, features a skull on
the cover too. "Rare & unreleased sessions", yeah right.

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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Big Itch vol.6
Date: 21 Aug 1998 21:02:15 +0200


And you have of course all been waiting for the new volume of your favorite
compilation series.
Just out, get it at Norton!

>v/a-The Big Itch vol.6 (Mr. Manicotti lp)
>18 more tracks that will further reduce your social standing among your
>neighbours. Are you ready for the 'Hulu Hoop', 'The Fly Swater' and
>'Ethymoiditus Cum Polyposis ' ?. What about 'Monsieur Jean' (Farmer John en
>francais) or the aural torture that's Charlie White Eagle's version of 'Get
>Off My Cloud ?. To top it all there's a nice little ditty called 'Fuck Me
>Forever' by Connie Lingus !.


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From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A Dream
Date: 21 Aug 1998 12:18:47 -0700


I had a dream this morning that i was riding a bus down a street in sf
(where i live) but as i looked out the window, i realized it looked just
like the street i used to live on in london....  At the end of a road was a
*huge* outdoor brewery, with enormous copper vats of beer (a la "strange
brew.") lining the front lawn.  And next to one of the copper tanks,  was
charro, sitting at one of those all-in-one synthesizer, mic, drum set
thingies.

phew,

jasmine

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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Warren Barker Orchestra?
Date: 21 Aug 1998 17:57:15 -0400


Hi all,

One of my more "officially cool" vinyl treasures is probably a Warner
Brothers "How to Get the Most Out of Your Stereo."  Translucent yellow
vinyl, near-nudie on the cover.  The real deal.

Only, the music is only so-so, cept for a few standouts, so I almost never
play it.  There's a pretty kooky "Mickey Mouse Cloub Theme" by Frank
Comstock; a serviceable "Holiday for Strings" by the John Scott Trotter
Orcestra.  "Singin in the Rain" by Gus Farney at the Giant Wurlitzer.  A
somewhat funny "Two Heads are Better than One" by the Spike Jones Orchestra
("we're not monsters, we're beatniks!!").  "The Cassions Go Rolling Along"
by the Warner Brothers Military Band conducted by one Henry Mancini (splain
*that* one at me!).  All just kinda okay over the long haul.

Anyway, there's one real standout track that I'd overlooked before for some
reason: "Carnavalito" by the Warren Barker Orchestra.  Deep latin with
echoey "Doo-doo" girl singers.  Slow & sexy with bongo & chimes & flute &
harp & even oboe in parts.

Anyone know about the Warren Barker Orchestra that I've been missing?  The
song has really gotten into my skull today.

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Subject: (exotica) tom jones mail list, f.y.i.
Date: 21 Aug 1998 15:09:30 -0800


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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 21 Aug 1998 18:24:54 +0000


For those so inclined, The Retro Cocktail Hour - the Saturday night
lounge/exotica/crime jazz show - can now be heard on the World Wide
Web.  Just go to:

http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm/retro/retrolisten.htm

and click right in.  Requires RealPlayer 5.0 or G2 and at least a
28.8 internet connection.

There will be a new show available every week, with a program archive
to follow soon.  While you listen, check out our modest cover
gallery, playlists from past shows and enter our CD giveaway.  Most
importantly, let us know what you think!  Thanks for the space.


Darrell Brogdon
Program Director
KANU
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Warren Barker Orchestra?
Date: 22 Aug 1998 01:44:11 +0000


I think I mentioned this before: It's one of my little treasures and I
paid a whole lot of money for it:

William Holden presents
a musical touch of
FAR AWAY PLACES
Warren Barker and his orchestra

It's a Warner Brothers record from 1959, a trip around the world with
these pieces:

Malayan Nightbird
Tokyo Trolley
Junk City Hong Kong
Shojoji
Lotus Land
Kowloon to London Express
Carnavalito
Javanese Valley
Kyoto Merry Go Round
Moonflowers
Petite
Mountain High Valley Low

Everything kind of simple, almost Children's songs, very pretty.

I think William Holden is an actor.

They recommend the following other records - and I think it's nice when
artists recommend other artists on their record, nobody does that
anymore:

"Primitiva" by Denny
"Orienta"
"Taboo", Lyman
"As I hear it" by William Holden

and I wonder if anybody has this last record. I'd like to know how it
is!

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Warren Barker Orchestra?
Date: 21 Aug 1998 21:24:56 -0400


At 1:44 AM +0000 8/22/98, Moritz R wrote, in response to Chris Cook:

>William Holden presents
>a musical touch of
>FAR AWAY PLACES
>Warren Barker and his orchestra

Yes, a fabulous record. Barker's other Warner Bros albums are quite good,
too, especially the exotic "Music Of Desire" and the swinging TV track "77
Sunset Strip". Barker worked in-house at Warners in their early days as a
conductor and arranger on other folks records as well - look for Tommy
Morgan's "Tropicale", an exotic harmonica record that, imho, is much better
than the Leo Diamond LP's.

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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Warren Barker
Date: 22 Aug 1998 07:05:35 -0500


>Anyone know about the Warren Barker Orchestra that
>I've been missing?

In addition to the Warren Barker LPs already mentioned,
another cool one to check out is "Warren Barker Is In"
also on Warner Brothers.  Great stuff!  I think it's been
mentioned here before.

Warren Barker dropped by the radio station recently to
plug a concert appearance.  He was conducting the
university's symphonic band in a concert featuring some
stuff he composed.  Apparently he devotes himself
exclusively to composing concert music and conducting
these days.

He seemed like a very nice guy.  He was willing to talk
about his work in the studios and at Warner Bros. in the
'50s and '60s, though he's been retired from that scene
for 30+ years and clearly considers it part of his past.
Didn't seem to want to dwell on it much.

Among other things, he wrote the little xylophone riff that
plays whenever Samantha twitches her nose on
"Bewitched"!


Darrell Brogdon
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU Radio
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
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From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Elevator Music CD
Date: 22 Aug 1998 08:18:38 -0700


Anybody care to comment on a CD called "Elevator Music," with tracks by
Esquival, 3 Suns, etc?  Saw it advertised recently.

Thanks!

Jerry Larson


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ronald Shannon Jackson: Pulse
Date: 22 Aug 1998 15:32:06 +0200


Brian Phillips wrote about Ronald Shannon Jackson's "Pulse": "For those who
are adventurous or in need of a good laugh; he recites poetry while playing
the drums! "Into the valley of death ro...(whackita-whack-paradiddle!)".
Much of the verse comes out as grunting."

    reminded me about Sam Ulano's "Sam the drummer" lp;
    Sam tells children's stories while drumming; great fun!

    i looked for Ronald Shannon Jackson's "Pulse" on cd,
    but couldn't find it; does it exist on cd?

    other cd's by him were described as "heavy metal jazz" - eeek!

        Johan


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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Demy + Legrand = HEAVEN!!!
Date: 22 Aug 1998 14:28:03 -0400


Last night I went to see the newly restored version of 'The Young Girls of
Rochefort' (Les Demoiselles de Rochefort), Jacques Demy's follow-up to 'Les
Parapluies de Cherbourg'.  Like the earlier film, it stared Catherine
Deneuve and has music by Michel Legrand, yet it was much less successful
than Parapluies.

I found Rochefort to be a much more interesting film than the other.  It's
also much more like a traditional musical in that it has dialogue and songs,
whereas Parapluies was completely sung.  The film was made in 1968 and it
contains some rather surreal elements to it -- there's a large pop-art
influence, an air of the troubles in Vietnam (though never mentioned), and
an all glass cafe that is just plain weird.  Gene Kelly is also in the film,
though he doesn't dance as much as I would have liked.  (Probably to prevent
him from outshining the French dancers?)

As for the music, I thought it was FAR better than Parapluies.  Yes, I
realize that Parapluies has two very famous tunes -- Watch What Happens and
I Will Wait For You, but outside of that much of the score is just the sung
dialog.  The songs are much more interesting, quite funny lyrically (silly
at times) and really quite beautiful.  Lots of da-be-da-be-da as an added
touch.  Legrand is in peak form here.  The songs have been running through
my head all day.

I do hope there will be a soundtrack re-issue, just as they did with
Parapluies (releasing the entire score on 2 CDs.)

I know it has a limited release, but if it shows up where you live do see
it.

I found a web site with some very poor quality Real-Audio samples, but you
can at least get a sense of the songs.

http://www.ecran-noir.com/deneuve/films/671.htm





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Subject: (exotica) Tillamook LPs
Date: 22 Aug 1998 18:16:41 +0000


In Tillamook, Oregon today I found some 59 cent LPs at the Saint Vincent de
Paul's thrift store on Main Street (7th and Main?).  For some reason the
clerk gave me a discount and it came to under 50 cents a record (my
flashing smile, my debonair appearances or she just didn't want to have to
figure out 59 cents a record?).

Movie and TV Themes Composed and Conducted by Elmer Bernstein, AVA Records
AS-11. Good, but not the best, crime jazz.  Pete Candoli, Bud Shank, Shelly
Manne are in the 20 piece band (looks like the same basic group that did
the Peter Gunn music with Henry Mancini).  Francisco Aguabella plays bongos
in "Saints and Sinners (theme from the TV series)"  Also, on the album,
"Rat Race", "Three Time Blueser", and "Radio Hysteria."  Recorded July 1962.

Shangri-La  Robert Maxwell  Decca DL 74421.  This is pretty interesting
although somewhat laid back for my tastes.  Wonderful cover featuring a
head shot of an attractive young lady with dark hair.

Moog!  Claude Denjean  London SP 44155.  Claude plays Rock tunes on the
Moog.  If you like that sort of thing, these aren't bad.

Two Pianos and Twenty Voices  Lew Davies   Command RS 33-813.  Lew Davies
does it again with wordless vocals and no strings.  I like "Cheek to Cheek"
with the bongos.  Most are laid back, but all are arranged to interesting
effect.

Visions of Eight  Henry Mancini  RCA ABL1 0231. Something for everyone
here.  I liked "Warm Up" because of the funky organ part.  Most of the
album is pretty laid back. This is a soundtrack for a documentary on the
1972 Olympics.

Organ Moods in Hi-Fi  Buddy Cole  Columbia CL 874.  Sort of eerie in
places.  For a hi-fi recording a bit muddy.  Not very swinging, but
interesting.

Other LP's:

Living Brass plays a Henry Mancini Tribute  RCA Camden CAS 2162
A Musical Tour Around the World and Beyond (various)  London SQBE 94251
The Theme from Hawaii  Dan & Dale  Diplomat DD-1
The Unsinkable Jonah Jones Swings the Unsinkable Molly Brown   Capitol ST 1532

By the way, thanks to the person who reported on the companion book to the
Time-Life record series "As You Remember Them": The Men and The Music. It
was sitting in the record stacks and I probably wouldn't have selected it
if I hadn't heard about it on this list first. It is truly interesting to
see Les Baxter bald and overweight.   This is definitely a book most fans
of Martin Denny, Les Baxter, Henry Mancini, John Barry or Herb Alpert would
be interested in, as each gets about a half page (not including
photographs).  There is also a great section on film music and on recording
techniques.

Byron



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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August23
Date: 22 Aug 1998 22:28:46 -0400


"Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl.  Space Bop features
music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier!=20
Comments & questions welcome.=20

Space Bop #12 - "Easy Listening", German Style!

Bert Kaempfert:  The Bass Walks  "Stop Look And Listen! Vol. 3"
    =09
Orchester Erwin Halletz:  Pyjama Party  "Mr. Casanova"
    =09
James Last:  Cha Cha Cha (Patricia, Sweet & Gentle, Managua Nicaragua)=20
"Hammmond A GoGo Vol. 2"
    =09
Werner M=FCller & His Orchestra:  "Hawaiian Eye" Theme  "Hawaiian Swing"=09
    =09
Peter Lauch und die Regenpfeifer:   Gib ihn Mir mal zum spielen  "Oh
Diese Schande"
    =09
Klaus Wunderlich:  Felicidade  "Sound 2000 - Moog Organ Rhythm"
    =09
Stereo-Cocktail:  Music To Watch Girls By  "Stereo-Cocktail"
    =09
Gert Wilden:  Title Theme (M=E4dchen die nach M=FCnchen kommen)=20
"Schulmadchen Report"    =09
    =09
Werner M=FCller & His Orchestra:  "Adventures in Paradise" Theme=20
"Hawaiian Swing"
    =09
Chor und Orchester Harry Martin:  Aloha O=E9, Die Ukelele Melodie,    Inseln
der Tr=E4ume  "On The Beach At Waikiki"=09
    =09
Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra:  Somethin' Stupid  "Peter Thomas Sound
Orchestra Presents"
    =09
Margot Hielscher, Erwin Lehn & His Orchestra:  Bei Mir Bist Du Sch=F6n=20
"Stop Look And Listen! Vol. 3"=09
    =09
Kai Warner & His Orchestra:  The Sheik Of Araby  "Pops For Minis"
    =09
Horst Wende & his Orchestra:  Sugarbush  "Stop Look And Listen! Vol. 3"
    =09
Stereo-Cocktail:  Summertime  "Stereo-Cocktail"
    =09
The Bad Examples:  Melodie de l'heure de la sortie  "The River The Night
The Moon Temptation and You"


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) John Cage CD
Date: 22 Aug 1998 20:49:16 -0700


Hello all,

Have this 1 yet ?

Just got a few of these in;

John Cage "Variations IV" CD on Legacy
It's a performance art piece from August 1965
of radio broadcasts LOTS of different radio broadcasts all going on at
once, in Los Angeles Asst. by David Tudor.

It's very good and entertaining noise, very easy to pick out the different
broadcasts and not so easy, which consist of spoken word, music all types,
static, electronic noises,... et al

Titles;
John Cage and David Tudor - Performance Introduction, Excerpts - 7PM-8PM,
Excerpts - 8PM-9PM, Excerpts - 9PM-10PM, Excerpts - 10PM-11PM, Excerpts
-11PM-12AM, Excerpts - 12AM-1AM

Partial liner notes back of CD case reads;
"It is Cage's contention that noise belongs to the realm of musical sound.
He advocates methods of composition which are based on "chance", both for
the actual process of composition and for the performance.
Thus, he negates the absoluteness of the creative process as advocated by
composers of the past.
In composing by "chance", he tries to bypass his own ego, taste,
self-whatever it may be called-to create musical "happenings" with a
network of microphones that record and mix sounds as the slicing of a
carrot, a collision in the street, the closing of a door and other banal
sounds"

The pieces run from 6 minutes to much longer with most around 8
It's a good 1 to be sure @:-O
5 Stars

$16 + Shipping

Please e-mail direct if interested

Thanks!
Jack




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Subject: (exotica) Chicago
Date: 23 Aug 1998 00:02:47 EDT


In some online lists of Chicago bars, I've seen the name 'House of Tiki' on
1612 E. 53rd (near Univ. of Chicago). Another bar with an interesting name is
the Aloha Bikini Bar at 3702 N Halsted.  I live about 2 hours from Chicago and
don't get there as often as I would like.  Has anyone ever been to either of
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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tallahassee record shopping
Date: 23 Aug 1998 10:58:57 -0500


Well I just got back from a a trip down south, a first for this New
England boy, and I didn't have too much time to do any record shopping
but, I did manage to find a couple of Goodwills in Tallahassee,
Florida.(There are no less than five Goodwills there)

SCORE! In the second Goodwill I went to I bought one record: Esquivel's
Latin-esque. The only downside is that it is the mono version, which in a
way defeats the whole purpose of the album, but in a wierd way I like
that. Suffice to say that there IS still hope for finding those highly
coveted exotica LPs in the thrifts.

Speaking of warped records... Driving back to apartment in 95 degree
weather in an un-AC car I was getting paranoid that my precious find
would just melt. How do you folks in hot climates deal? I could easily be
convinced that all the vinyl in the south has just plain turned to goo.

Frank

My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's
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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rarest of the rare LPs
Date: 23 Aug 1998 10:58:52 -0500


While thrifting in Tallahassee I came upon a record that I have but I had
never seen in the past ten years of record browsing.

The record is called _The Investigator_ and it came out on the
Discuriosities label (LP6834).
This is the only infomation on the album aside from "copyright 1954 Radio
Rarities" printed on the label, quotations included.

Years ago a roommate of mine showed me a newspaper article titled
something like "the most rare album", it was about this album. Always
being sceptical of newspapers and their usually inaccurate exposes I
did'nt take this as gospel but, all the same I never, until now, came
across another copy of this LP. According to the article the recording is
a drama parody of the McCarthy house un-American activities hearings
performed supposedly by blacklisted actors at the time. And if I remember
the article correctly this recording was banned.

This whole story got me to thinking that this forum (the exotica mailing
list) would be the perfect 'screen' for finding out the rarest of the
rare LPs.

All you have to do is post those albums that you believe to be rare based
on your experiences of never having seen another copy in your travels. If
any one else owns or has seen this LP, with positive identification,  it
would be eliminated from the list. It might be assumed that major label
issues (i.e. RCA, Capitol, etc.) would be eliminated from this survey
considering that they typically issued far more copies of their albums
than the 'off' labels. You may want to list local "vanity" pressings
which most likely only circulated regionaly but, consider again if you
yourself have seen another copy. This would for instance disqualify my
listing of The Whistling Nun from Biddeford, Maine doing songs from the
sound of music, which I assume to be a very small pressing but, I have
seen other copies of this in my area.

Off the top of my head I'll begin the rare list with:

"Bold brave organ extravaganza" by "Mr. Talent" Dave Fredricks - Gulco6437
"Guitar BossaNova" by The Electratones -GoneLatin7005
"Guitar Spectacular" by Don Allesi - Tiffany1020

I know I have more but I'll save them for later when I have more time to
look through my records.

I hope this thread flies. One of the things I enjoy with this mailing
list is the "bonding" that takes place when you realize that someone else
has heard some record that you though you alone had been aware of.

Frank


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Electric Psych Sitar Headswir
Date: 22 Aug 1998 19:43:25 +0200


has anyone bought this comp cd yet? i'm awaiting to hear more about it
before paying the $24 Metro asks for it. i've contacted them, but they
could only tell me that they "think most of it is instrumental".

        Johan


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From: [e-mail] (Subliminal Sounds)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Electric Psych Sitar Headswir
Date: 23 Aug 1998 20:52:49 +0200 (MET DST)


Johan Dada Vis wrote:
>has anyone bought this comp cd yet? i'm awaiting to hear more about it
>before paying the $24 Metro asks for it. i've contacted them, but they
>could only tell me that they "think most of it is instrumental".

You can get the CD in Europe (cheaper too) from us: Subliminal Sounds...in
fact we do mail-order all over the world and have been doing that for over
10 years. Exotica, Electronica, Psychedelia etc. LPs/45s/CDs new & used
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"Hush Little Robot", ATTILIO MINEO: "Man In Space with Sounds", DICK HYMAN:
"Moon Gas"...reissues. Very good prices for USA/Japanese customers too. If
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OK, sorry about the self promotion. Here's a quick review of the "ELECTRIC
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I think it's a great compilation  (and I've been through quite a few) of
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full blown psych. If I remember correctly: 4 of the 18 tracks are
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"The sitar has been an enigma in Western eyes and ears. Never has an
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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Opinions: Baxter's "African Jazz"
Date: 23 Aug 1998 15:51:54 PDT


Les Baxter's "African Jazz" (I think that's the title).  You who have heard
it, how is it?

Thanks,

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Opinions: Baxter's "African Jazz"
Date: 23 Aug 1998 15:43:32 -0500 (CDT)


>Les Baxter's "African Jazz" (I think that's the title).  You who have heard
>it, how is it?


absolutly great.   it's probably my favorite of all Baxter's LPs.


check out the new additions to The Exotic World of Les Baxter:
http://www.tamboo.com/baxter

 - kini




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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Rarest of the rare LPs
Date: 23 Aug 1998 17:46:22 +0100


I don't see the point of investigating rare LPs or records unless they =
have
a value or a merit. For instance, I and most other people know extremel=
y
rare LPs and records which are also crap and don't deserve a mention.
e.g., The LP I found that was created using Nintendo's MarioPaint SNES
cartridge is probably very hard to find - but then who would want to fi=
nd
it? On the other hand, I've never seen a copy of Roy Budd's Get Carter
soundtrack but I've heard it sells for =A31,500 and I want it badly (an=
d its
being rereleased soon).

Oops, in my ranting, I seem to have inadvertantly added to this threat.=






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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bruce Haack
Date: 23 Aug 1998 13:26:06 +0100


Just got hold of a repressed Bruce Haack classic LP - Electric Lucifer.=


Wierdness abounds in this hippy fest with underlying electronics and
overly-heavy reverbed voices, chanting, vocoded voices, noise and gener=
al
chaos. Cool cover and ony =A38.49. This reminds me of Timothy Leary's T=
une In
Turn On Drop Out LP which I got a couple of weeks ago. Both are trippy =
to
the point of stupidity but still cool with it. If you like your folk mu=
sic
with a dose of brown acid and religous overtones, Bruce is perfect for =
you.

On a similar tip, I heard that both Silver Apples LPs got repressed
recently. Does anybody know where I can get hold of the vinyl?


Thanks





Charlie
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For "Jimmy's Easy" 8/18/98
Date: 23 Aug 1998 18:39:24 EDT


"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am
-----Billy Taylor Orchestra-David Frost Theme-----
George Shearing-Blue Rainbow-LP Mood Latino
101 Strings-Latino Sentimental-LPNelson Riddle &101 Strings
George Romanis-Breaking Into The Bank-LP OST 8 On The Lam
Ventures-Pink Panther Theme-LP Fabulous Ventures
Luis Enriquez Bascalov-Paranagua-CD Easy Tempo 4
Brass Ring-Theme From Sand Pebbles-LP Disadvantages of You
Warren Barker-The D.A.'s Man-LP TV Guide's Top TV Themes
Red Holt-Sanctified Indian-LP Look Out (Later of Young Holt)
-Lalo Schifrin-Boysie's Bossa-LP OST The Liquidator
-Otto Sieben-Curley Shirley-CD Music For TV Dinners (Scamp)
-Nelson Riddle-Sawdust, Spangles, & Dreams-LP (forgot name)
-Chaquito-Name Of The Game-CD Mad Mad Mad Wrld Soundtrax
-David Taylor Group-Spy In The Jungle-CD Scored! (UK)
-Dean Martin-Mimi-CD DM Does It French  (Casa Nostra)
-France Gall-Christiansen-LP Les Grand Successe de..(Phillips)
-Francesco DiMasi-Diamond Bossa Nova-CD Easy Tempo 3
Esquivel-Surfboard-CD on Bar None
Armando Trova Joli-Masquerade-CD Easy Tempo 4
Pete Jolly-Plummer park-CD Dimenziones In Sound #3
Love Unlimited Orchestra-Barry's Theme-LP Love Unltd Orch
Xavier Cugat-It's Not Unusual/Goldfinger-LP Feelin' Good
Perez Prado-James Bond Theme-LP Lights! Action! Prado!
Johnny Brown & Joy Boys-Suspense-CD Swing For A Crime
Troy Donahue-Live Young-LP OST Palm Springs Weekend
Stan Freeman & Twisters-Volare-LP Everybody's Twistin'
Piero Umiliani-Flirt-A-Rio- (forgot to note the source)
Edmund Ros Orchestra-Moon Over Miami-LP Bongos From South
Loleatta Holloway-Hit & Run-LP Loleatta (Salsoul)
-Roy Budd-Get Carter-CD Sound Something or Other
-Peter Thomas Orchestra-Der Hexer-CD Futurmuzik (Scamp)
-Nino Fidenco-Supercolpo Shake-CD Cinecitta 2
-MFSB-K-Gee-CD MFSB TSOP
-Dewolf Studio-Main Chance-CD Bite Hard
-Combustible Edison-Punch Drunk-CD OST 4 Rooms
-Ahab & The Wailers-Neb's Tune-CD Brit 6T's Instros
-MoonTrekkers-Return of The Vampire-CD Joe Meek Instros
-----Wayne Newton-Wives & Lovers-LP-----
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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Spaced Out website update
Date: 24 Aug 1998 00:43:05 +0100


Just to let you know about a small update to the Spaced Out site:
a set of links directly to song-writers' entries at the ASCAP
website.  You'll find them on the "Other Resources" page at:

http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/links.htm

Curiously (and worryingly), Dick Hyman's entry at ASCAP includes
"Hooked on Classics"...?!?


Robbie


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From: "Michael Bennet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) electric bezouki
Date: 23 Aug 1998 21:48:15 -0400


Does anyone know any particular albums or songs that feature the electric
bezouki?  I figure there have to be a bunch featuring Vinnie Bell and his
Danelectro Belzouki, but I don't recall having ever run across any.

mb


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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Covers as clues to contents
Date: 23 Aug 1998 23:01:09 EST


Nat writes:

> I have no problem buying a record for the cover.  Someday I'll have a
> website and scan in these "Philco Presents" records I have.
> I kind of doubt I'd even be into most of the music discussed on this list
> if I hadn't been initially attracted by the covers.  And it's still a big
> part of it.
For me it was the cover and the band/record name that was the key,
especially during the New Wave years, back when you could never
listen to records before you bought them and imports were expensive.
It's been a long time but I'm certain that's how I discovered Der
Plan! It's still a factor as I recently picked up a record called
"Polish House Party" based on the cover, and you can be absolutely
certain it wasn't for the music! Nat will certainly understand this
purchase!

Johan writes:
Re: Friends of Dean Martinez
>     is this "Retrograde" as good as (or the same type of stuff as)
>     their debut "Shadow of your smile"?
Shadow.... is a really good release.  Looking forward to hearing this
new one myself!

Cheryl writes:
> > 12. I have a Licence To ...
> Be right all the time (just ask Brian!)=20
I won't even try to argue this one!

Jill writes:
Re: France Gall
>... I'm just listening to her
> German sung CD "Die Beste in Deutsch" which I think is also fab. Some is a
> little bland, but all very poppy and cute. I'm wondering what other LPs she
> did in the 60s that are in this cool mood. Does anyone know so I can track
> them down?
I should have a copy of this one coming to me but I've lost touch
with my  contact during the last few weeks.  I'm looking forward to
hearing it myself. I found this incredible German Schlager website
complete with bios, cover art and discographies.  It even lists books
for further reading which much of the info is excerpted from.  All in
German though:

http://www.online.prevezanos.com/schlager

(It was so good I snagged the site - about 15mb).  It seems Bear
Family Records is the best (and most thorough) source for CD reissues
of this era of German performers (no France Gall though).  I could
drop my annual music budget on what I saw available through them!

 Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) CD compilation: Canto Morricone
Date: 24 Aug 1998 07:01:28 -0400


Picked up this German CD yesterday as from the back it looked like I
would really like it.
I was not disappointed - this is an incredible release, beyond my wildest
dreams.

The songs are generally that kind of beautiful electric harpischord or
piano driven, meditative pop songs with light rock drums and ethereal
vocal backgrounds - like much of the mondo morricone compilation.

21 tracks, including
- the incredible 'deep down' from Danger diabolik
- three different versions of the malamondo theme, one sung in italian
- two versions of the fantastic 'se telefonando', one by Francoise Hardy
in French and the other by Mina in Italian.  I didn't recognise the name,
but I found I knew the song very well.  It is an emotionally charged 60s
pop orchestral masterpiece.
- An incredible version of 'hurry to me' (there is a Roy Budd version of
this on the Sound Spectrum compilation) by the Sandpipers with lyrics
('come on hurry hurry hurry to me, you can tell or share your worries to
me...;
- lots of other incredible songs I didn't know.

Nice illustrated booklet too.
By some distance the best CD I have bought this year; possibly ever.
Break the bank for it! (I paid $22; well worth it)

Details: Canto Morricone Vol.1 The 60s, Bear Family records (BMG) BCD
16244 AH

regards

Jonny

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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the art of Hal - the hall of Art?
Date: 24 Aug 1998 13:40:18 +0200


Hi everyone,

This weekend I picked up a copy of the lp "Art Mooney cha cha" by Art
Mooney & his Orchestra (Celebrity Records) at a record-fair in the city
of Nijmegen (Netherlands).
When I played the record this morning I noticed that the version of
'Caravan' on this record (re-titled "Whirling sands' for unknown
reasons) is the same as the version by HAL Mooney on the cd 'The Exotic
Trilogy vol.2" (Opaque Records).
So my obvious question is: are ART and HAL Mooney (Hal Mooney recorded
for Mercury) one and the same person? Or did the people who compiled The
Exotic Trilogy get their Mooney's all mixed-up?

Marco Kalnenek

p.s. by the way, I found some other nice records at this fair:
"Dynamica" by Ray Martin for 1 Dutch Guilder! And two nice 10"-lp's by
Leroy Anderson from 1950 and '51. I also bought my first Mantovani
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From: "Bryan J. Cuevas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Rarest of the rare LPs
Date: 24 Aug 1998 08:12:23 -0500


Frank -

>"Bold brave organ extravaganza" by "Mr. Talent" Dave Fredricks - Gulco6437

Well, I don't have this organ LP, but I do have a 7" single by Dave
Fredricks where he's playing the ARP pro soloist synthesizer.
Unfortunately, the record is 8 hours away from me right now, but I remember
this as some sort of demonstration disc.

Keep on steppin'
Bryan C.

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Department of Religious Studies
University of Virginia
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From: Robert Sloane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Opinions: Baxter's "African Jazz"
Date: 24 Aug 1998 02:50:08 -0500


At 03:51 PM 8/23/98 -0700, B. Yost wrote:
>
>Les Baxter's "African Jazz" (I think that's the title).  You who have heard
>it, how is it?

I'll register a positive vote for this one, as well.  I have it on a 2-fer
CD by GNP Crescendo, issued with Baxter's _The Colors of Brazil_ (which I
also think is quite good).

Rob


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From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FM Weirdness
Date: 24 Aug 1998 08:47:44 -0700


Just curious:

Any listers out there with fond memories of KPFA, Berkeley, during the years
that (sound/text composer) Charles Amirkhanian was MD?

All those avant-garde music shows of the late 70s thru mid-80s: C.A.'s
"Morning Concert" of experimental 'new music;' the totally whacked
performance artists on "Night Sky Music;" Ray Farrell's
experimental/post-punk rockers on "Assassinatin' Rhythm;" home-tapers on "No
Other Radio;" phone-in jams with Negativland and friends on "Over the Edge;"
"Music from the Hearts of Space" (when it was a 3-hour acid trip) and other
middle-of-the-night weirdness...  A few shows survive but things sound much
more "normal" now.

College radio has its moments of weridness, of course, but nothing on this
coast compares or compared with 59,000 watts of mind-blowing sounds for
hours on end.

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From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Opinions: Baxter's "African Jazz"
Date: 24 Aug 1998 18:44:45 +0200


Robert Sloane wrote:
>
> At 03:51 PM 8/23/98 -0700, B. Yost wrote:
> >
> >Les Baxter's "African Jazz" (I think that's the title).  You who have heard
> >it, how is it?
>
> I'll register a positive vote for this one, as well.  I have it on a 2-fer
> CD by GNP Crescendo, issued with Baxter's _The Colors of Brazil_ (which I
> also think is quite good).

You're confusing it with "African blue", which is a nice record - but
not the same as "African Jazz"!

Marco K.


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ronald Shannon Jackson: Pulse
Date: 24 Aug 1998 13:28:19 -0400


    i looked for Ronald Shannon Jackson's "Pulse" on cd,
    but couldn't find it; does it exist on cd?
1. Thanks for saving something that I wrote and quoting it!
2. It doesn't seem to be in print in any media and I remember it being cut
out in a HURRY as a record.

Sorr..(Wham, slap...well, I don't play the drums.)
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) e-pulse excerpts
Date: 24 Aug 1998 14:50:09 -0500


Howdy hey, y'all.
Just back from a week down lower Cape Cod, where many dozens o' Wellfleet
ersters were inhaled.
Got a lot of mail to catch up on.
Apparently no one big died while I was gone so no obits from me - how could
I top Robert's Ketchamori piece anyway?!
Here's some excerpts pulled from recent E-Pulse issues, snatched on the fly
while bulk-moving e-mail from In to Out.
-Lou

6. smoking-section album of the week:
     For those who idolize Astaire as much as Presley, who want a bit of
art with their youth culture, there's a shortage of rock'n'roll
sophisticates these days. You know the type of idol they're looking for:
well educated, rakish hair, natty threads, witty lyrics, ever-present
ciggie (Gitanes, naturellment), a bit of old Weimar decadence around the
edges, the ability to boozily croon or scream in withdrawal-like pain.
With the disappearance of Bryan Ferry, Scott Walker's reclusiveness and
David Bowie's current sartorial identity crisis, these sophisto
flag-bearers, the neo-Sinatras, are in short supply. Thankfully, there's
THE DIVINE COMEDY, a.k.a. Neil Hannon. Little known here, Northern
Irish-born Hannon cribs Scott Walker's dark suits and shades but bypasses
the Jacques Brel catalog for his own compositions on the foibles of
humankind, usually delivered with arched eyebrow. He and his musicians
(which include a chorus and wind and brass ensemble) have been making
memorable records for years, and the latest, 'FIN DE SIECLE' (Setanta,
8/18), is the best yet and one of the year's best as well.
     'Fin de Siecle' is darker than earlier DC albums, a good thing since
they at times had difficulty maintaining a souffle-light mood. Its opening
song, "Generation Sex," sets the agenda, skewering the modern tendency to
make everything a commodity to be bought and sold: "Generation Sex
respects the rights of girls who want to take their clothes off/ as long
as we can all watch," Hannon sings, delivering sharp jabs to paparazzi and
tabloid readers. Then there's "Thrillseeker," which starts with a
"Mission: Impossible" flute riff and coldly dissects the live-fast ethos
("It's my triumph of will/ just to stay alive 'till/ they've spent several
million to save me, albeit vainly"). From a song about travel ("National
Express," so driving it cries out for Stanley Donen to direct a video for
it), a humorous tribute to Sweden and even a send-up of doomsday ("Here
Comes the Flood") that will have you laughing and shaking your head at its
audacity, Hannon shows a rare ability to arrange the forces of an
orchestra while maintaining the excitement of rock and writing memorable
tunes. No mean feat.
     If it sounds pretentious--the suits and strings and weighty themes--it
belies the fun and surprises in 'Fin de Siecle,' and of the sense of an
artist aiming high and hitting a bull's-eye. The capper is the closing
track, "Sunrise," where Hannon ditches his cool persona and deadpan baritone
to sing hopefully about the possibility of peace in Northern Ireland, which
he likens to the dawn after a long period of darkness. It's
a song made more poignant by the recent strain on that peace pact. There
*is* one problem with 'Fin de Siecle,' however: The Divine Comedy's label,
Setanta, recently ceased American distribution, which means this may only be
available as an expensive import. But it's well worth it. (Melton)

2. point: Burt Bacharach's godlike:
     Editorial emotions ran the gamut upon loading 'SELECTIONS FROM THE
LOOK OF LOVE: THE BURT BACHARACH COLLECTION' (Rhino 3-CD box
set, 10/ 27) into the disc player. Granted the sampler contains the
biggies,
leaving the obscurities ("Me Japanese Boy I Love You" -- Bobby Goldsboro)
to the box set. But, oh what hits, what lush, fat horns, what over-the-top
orchestrations. It's the memory-sparking factor that gets me. I can
remember shimmying to Tom Jones' "What's New Pussycat"; sitting in the
back of the car on road trips singing "Do You Know the Way to San Jose";
summer camp sing-alongs of "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head"; and
hairbrush-as-microphone renderings of "(They Long to Be) Close to You." My
recollection of Dionne Warwick was limited to Psychic Friends hotline
commercials until all the Bacharach song titles started my brain juices
flowing. The Dionne and Friends version of 'That's What Friends Are For'
almost negates "Promises, Promises," "Walk On By," "I Say a Little
Prayer," and "The Balance of Nature." Can't hardly wait the two months
till the set comes out -- go Burt. (Wildfeuer)

3. counterpoint: Burt Bacharach is a sadist:
     They just don't make hearing protection strong enough to withstand
'THE LOOK OF LOVE: THE BURT BACHARACH COLLECTION' (Rhino 3-CD
box set, 10/27). From the cheesy arrangements of "Don't Go Breaking My
Heart" to the overzealous background vocals on "(There's) Always Something
There to Remind Me," this collection is like some Muzak soundtrack to a film
about shopping with my parents. Although "(They Long to Be) Close to You"
and "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head" do have a certain kitsch appeal, I
can't understand why it's necessary to own three CDs of the stuff. What
frightens me even more is that what I heard was a sampler containing only
the hits. I can only imagine what horrors may lie within the obscurities
of "Mexican Divorce" and "The Blob." Don't misunderstand; I mean, this
collection isn't all bad. It is nice to hear that Dionne Warwick had a
career before 'Solid Gold,' and "Arthur's Theme" does call to mind images of
a drunken Dudley Moore. Of course, this whole diatribe could be a result of
my bitterness about those Naked Eyes hits actually being covers of Bacharach
classics. (Willis)

6. Mrs. Peel, we're needed:
     If you're a fan of the original '60s TV series, everything about the
new 'Avengers' movie seems wrong, from the casting to the overly busy
poster. Oh course, this being written before the film is available for
viewing, there is a chance that -- against all the ominous signs -- it's
great, and then we'll take it all back. In the meantime, we do have 'THE
AVENGERS: THE ALBUM' subtitled "Music From and Inspired by the Motion
Picture," (Warner Sunset/Atlantic, out now) and it offers further evidence
that this big-budget movie is conceived mainly as product. But if the
'Armageddon' soundtrack is a by-the-numbers classic-rock equivalent to a Big
Mac, 'The Avengers: The Album' is the H. Salt Esq. Fish and Chips model: At
least something different. Trying to tap into the jungle/trip-hop/drum &
bass/electronica scene, the soundtrack serves up the likes of Merz and Roni
Size, but also left-field choices like Grace Jones and erstwhile
Madness mouthpiece Suggs. Things start off with an update of the classic
Laurie Johnson TV theme song, but the bouncy tune has been dragged down with
gimmicky "contemporary" baggage. Think of the U2-affiliated "Mission:
Impossible" redo a couple of years ago. Yep, it's a yawn. The next track,
"Storm," gives Grace Jones a chance to be Shirley Bassey -- there are enough
'Goldfinger' and John Berry/James Bond swipes to make it
interesting, if not essential (not only that, new-wave geeks, but one of the
writers/producers is Bruce Woolley. Anybody remember the Camera Club?). The
Suggs track, "I Am," starts off like classic Madness but then falls into
predictable ska before veering off into another half-dozen directions. A
potentially good track, it could have used the deft touch of his old
bandmates. Another oddity is a remake of the Sugarcubes song "Mama" by Annie
Lennox. It's not quite the Arista-governed safe pop coma
she's slipped into, an encouraging turn. But let's face it: The song is
too weird to completely cleanse. The rest of the CD is similarly
"respectable," with lots of beats, scratches and the like from Merz,
Babybird, Utah Saints, and even a fairly commercial song with Sinead
O'Connor on vocals. There are good moments, particularly by Roni Size, but
what's missing is the audacity, the style, the sheer surprisingness of the
'Avengers' show, which was so influential in its day. It created trends,
it didn't copy them. It would have been more impressive if the studio had
gotten Laurie Johnson to do the score, or even Roni Size. Could we have a
little more originality, please? (Melton)

2. this week's rant:
     The emperor's new zoot suit: You know it's pretty much curtains for a
current trend when centenogenarian radio barker Paul Harvey jumps on the
bandwagon. Yet there he was on one of the local right-wing AM cesspools
during noon drive last week: "These kids today!" he gushed in his
inimitable loose-dentured robotic snarl. "They're swinging! They're
jitterbugging! They're ... even ... waltzing!"
     You go, Grandaddy-O! Uh-huh, "Swing" seems to be undergoing some sort
of revival--although what's being passed off under its rubric is more a
pastiche of '40s jump-band blues, recycled Vegas lounge aesthetics and
thrift-store-driven fashion mistakes--mix'n'match Brooks Brothers &
pachuco zoot suits, anyone?--grafted onto a post-punk framework than
anything Benny Goodman might give a thumb's up. Sorry to smash the fedora
on you wannabe Damon Runyon characters who're buying into this nice little
game of "let's play dress-up," but this whole "swing revival" shebang is
nothing more than a fashion-driven foist that has precious little to do
with music.
     Oh, sure, there are bands playing the stuff. To explain it using a
'Jeopardy'-based metaphor, if "Pop Culture for $50" opens to
"swing-revival bands," your winning answer would be: "What can failed
rockabilly poseurs, gas-station-shirt rockers who got passed over by
major-label A&R weasels during the post-'Nevermind' alt-rock boom,
post-Hanky Rollins tattoo casualties, San Francisco thrift-store habitues,
Vegas hacks, singing bartenders and last year's ska leftovers do to avoid
selling smokes to kiddies in that mini-mart?" Or, as a good friend who's
also a musician succinctly put it: "Brian Setzer's involved--that oughta
tell you something!"
     Nothing against Mister Setzer personally--or against Royal Crown
Revue, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Cherry Poppin' Daddies and others of their
ilk, either--but the big problem with this entire genre is that none of
its practicioners seems to have the foggiest idea on how to write a
passable tune (sorry, but pallid rewrites of Louis Jordan and Louis Prima
songs don't count). And when they inevitably do fall back on cover
versions by long-dead crazy guys, as they must, the result's about as
interesting as hearing Sha Na Na bowser-ize choice kibbles'n'bits from the
Danny & the Juniors catalog--or watching paint dry.
     Which is the major reason why the "swing" revival's shelf life will
be short, and its downfall inevitable. Like Sha Na Na, these swing bands
can't hold a candle to the acts they ape. And like the disco boom, the
swing revival is driven more by an elitist fashion sense (as in, "you're
not dressed appropriately for this club") than by any musical raison
d'etre. So sorry, Paul--those kids won't be visiting your stardust
dreamworld for long. (Griffith)

3. red hot item of the week:
     'RED HOT + RHAPSODY' (Verve/Antilles, 10/6) is the latest
installment of the very fine Red Hot series. This disc pairs the songs of
George and Ira Gershwin with artists from all over the musical map. The
apparently unusual combination of talent and songs works as well as it did
in 'Red Hot + Blue,' the debut disc in the series. Gershwin's music is
timeless, but when interpreted by the likes of Duncan Sheik, Luscious
Jackson, Money Mark and Skylab, its blend of Tin Pan Alley shows no sign
of having been written several decades ago. Sinead O'Connor returns to the
Red Hot fold with a lush "Someone to Watch Over Me." Baaba Maal updates
"Bess You Is My Woman Now" by singing it in Senegalese. Morcheeba and
Hubert Laws do a dreamy "Summertime." David Bowie gets the Angelo
Badalamenti treatment on "A Foggy Day."
Red Hot is creating a companion album, 'BY GEORGE (AND IRA): RED HOT ON
GERSHWIN,' that features the classic recordings of Gershwin songs. Both
albums will be released in time to celebrate the centenary of George's
birth. The Red Hot organization has donated $7 million towards AIDS
research, due in part to the huge success of the albums. Great songs and
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Percussion Grafting
Date: 24 Aug 1998 14:54:10 -0400


So in my quest to buy every record ever made with the word "percussion" in
the title, I've started to develop a whole section of what I call
"percussion graft" records. These are the ones where some producer says
"dammit, we need to get in on this percussion craze!"--and pulls some
random session out of the vault, which they dub extra percussion effects
onto. Usually the perpetrator is some budget label like Pirouette.

Well, a friend just gave me what might be the Ultimate Percussion Graft LP:
_Ping Pong Percussion Lerner & Lowe_(Spinorama). Starting with
string-heavy, orchestral sessions (which are utterly non-percussive), these
guys added TOTALLY goofy ping-pong introductions. They are LONG (sometimes
1/3 of the band), they use goofy sounds (whistles, guitar twangs), and they
have NO relation to the melody which follows. There's just an abrupt
razor-edit into the lush strings. A must-have for you fans of freakish
non-sequiturs. . .

Brrang! Clonk. . . . Rappa rappa!

 --Ross

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Another FAQ idea?
Date: 24 Aug 1998 15:39:02 -0400


Speaking of budget labels, what do you think?--perhaps there ought to be an
entry like this in the FAQ:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Q: What are "budget labels" and how do I look out for them?

A:  While some major companies had their own lower-price labels (such as
RCA's "Camden" or London's "Richmond"), the term usually refers to small
companies who distributed records through drug-stores and other retailers
outside the usual music-store channels.

To keep costs low, these labels had many tricks: Using unknown performers;
putting fewer tracks on each record; recycling previously-issued tracks
under fictitious artist (and song) names; and pressing on lower-quality
plastics (according to one rumor, even melted-down ashtrays). One
particular "Hawaiian" session was reissued dozens of times under different
covers and names. Budget disks are generally maddening to collectors for
these reasons--though despite everything, these labels occasionally managed
to release a good (or brilliantly bizarre) record.

The jackets of budget-label LPs usually *look* cheap--they rarely use
photos and almost never have a title printed along the spine. One notorious
and insidious company was Synthetic Plastics Company, of Newark New
Jersey--a.k.a. "Premier." They put out records under a blizzard of
different label names, such as Parade, Pirouette, Diplomat, Spinorama, and
Coronet.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Any other suggestions?

 --Ross

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Subject: (exotica) Vern is taking hula lessons.....
Date: 24 Aug 1998 16:04:50 EDT


I saw a very cute cartoon commercial the other night that starts out, "Vern is
taking hula lessons...." it ends with the guy in a full grass skirt offering
garden burgers to his guest.  There was one other blatent exotica-related
commerical but I forget at the moment what it was.  Has anyone seen this cute
commercial or any others?  This one was on A&E.

- Michele


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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Percussion Grafting
Date: 24 Aug 1998 16:11:32 -0400


>Well, a friend just gave me what might be the Ultimate Percussion Graft LP:
>_Ping Pong Percussion Lerner & Lowe_(Spinorama). Starting with
>string-heavy, orchestral sessions (which are utterly non-percussive), these
>guys added TOTALLY goofy ping-pong introductions.

Yes, yes, yes!!!!  I have this one and a similar one (could it be Ping Pong
Percussion with 101 stings?) that are absolutely off the damn wall.  I was
just in a separate email describing another one of these percussion
expliotation records.  Because I'm lazy, I will quote from my earlier work:

I have one of those Ping-Pong Percussion w/The Ink Spots records that gets
out and out dopey in spots.  ***BOOIIINNGGG***  Clip  -- Clop  -- Clip ---
Clop.  StrumStrumm  ****BOOOOOINNNNGGGG****  (pause)
I-dont-want-to-set-the-world. ...

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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Vern is taking hula lessons.....
Date: 24 Aug 1998 16:18:08 -0400


>I saw a very cute cartoon commercial the other night that starts out, "Vern is
>taking hula lessons...." it ends with the guy in a full grass skirt offering
>garden burgers to his guest.

Yeah, it's really pretty funny ... it gets played to *death* on the TV Food
Network, though.

Interestingly, in addition to the Hawaiian soundtrack, the spot's narrator
actually says:  "[Vern] wants her to think he's exotic."

So, the question is, who here is really the Madison Avenue mole?

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Percussion Grafting
Date: 24 Aug 1998 17:34:51 -0500


At 02:54 PM 8/24/98 -0400, Ross Orr wrote:
>So in my quest to buy every record ever made with the word "percussion" in
>the title, I've started to develop a whole section of what I call
>"percussion graft" records. These are the ones where some producer says
>"dammit, we need to get in on this percussion craze!"--and pulls some
>random session out of the vault, which they dub extra percussion effects
>onto. Usually the perpetrator is some budget label like Pirouette.
>Well, a friend just gave me what might be the Ultimate Percussion Graft LP:
>_Ping Pong Percussion Lerner & Lowe_(Spinorama).

This reminds me of a little project I haven't gotten to yet: making a tape
comp of *just* the percussion grafts from all the PPPercussion Lps I've got.
Has anyone out there attempted something like this? I'm wondering if the
payoff will be worth the effort, or if the concept beats the actuality.

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From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" for Wednesday, August 26, 1998
Date: 24 Aug 1998 17:42:20 -0400


Mondo Bongos can be heard every Wednesday between 9 & 11 am on CFRU 93.3 fm
in Guelph, Ontario. Canada.

Jack "Bongo" Burger: Jordu "In a Cocktail Mood"

Voo Doo Phunk: Starsky "Acid Jazz on the Rocks"
- compilation of new music on the Irma label

Thievery Corporation: Vivid "Sounds from the Thievery Hi-Fi"
- the entire cd is dedicated to the memory of Antonio Carlos Jobim

Plug: Maker of All "Drum & Bass for Papa"
- a great sitar & tabla track from Luke Vibert

Sukia: Vaseline & Sand " Contact Espacial con el Tercer Sexo"
101 Strings: Karma Sitar "Astro Sounds from Beyond the Year 2000"
Gershon Kingsley: Hey, Hey "Music to Moog By"

Add N to X: Hit Me "On the Wires of Our Nerves"
- analogue synths!

Laika: Spooky Rhodes "Sounds of the Satellites"

Dr. Rockit: The Lion & the Cucumber "The Spirit of Vampyros Lesbos"
- DJ remixes of the Vampires Sound Incorporation recordings. 2 lp set

Angelo Baroncini: Sculturea Beat "Scoctopus: The In Sound from Octopus
Records"
- funky production library music. 2 lp set. now available on cd I think

Billy Strange: Get Smart Theme "Secret Agent File"
- a great cd on GNP/Crescendo records. Contains versions of themes from
"The Prisoner", "I Spy", "The Man from Uncle" & so forth

The Tiki Tunes: Traitor Vic "Secret Agent Sounds"

The Propellerheads featuring Miss Shirley Bassey: History Repeating
"Decksanddrumsandrockandroll"
- this song is easily the best track on this cd. worth the price of
admission

United Future Organization: The Planet Plan "3rd Perspective"

Hooverphonic: 2Wicky "A New Stereophic Sound Spectacular"
Mono: Silicone "Formica Blues"
- Hooverphonic & Mono fit into the post-Portishead sound, but are not as
noir-ish.

Burt Bacharach: The Look of Love "Reach Out"
- I found this lp in a garage sale for $0.25.

Isaac Hayes: Ike's Mood "The Best of Isaac Hayes Vol 2"
Eddie Caruso & I Five: Topsy "Mo'Plen 2000"
Armando Trovailoi: Bada Caterina "Beat at Cinecitta Vol 2"

The James Taylor Quartet: Midnight Stomp (The New Rhumba) "The Money
Spyder"
- I think that anyone who is interested in 60's spy music soundtracks would
enjoy this homage.

Morton Stevens: Front Street "Hawaii Five-O ost"
- my favourite used vinyl find this year!

Dimitri from Paris: Dirty Larry "Sacrebleu"

The United States of America: Hard Coming Love "The United States of
America"
- rock with electronics innovators

Portishead: Half Day Closing "Portishead"
- this song was inspired by the previous band

Fifty Foot Hose: If Not This Time "Cauldron"
Amon Tobin: Nightlife "Permutations

Comments & questions welcome

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Chicago
Date: 24 Aug 1998 18:54:47 -0500


At 12:02 AM 8/23/98 EDT, Pearmania wrote:
>In some online lists of Chicago bars, I've seen the name 'House of Tiki' on
>1612 E. 53rd (near Univ. of Chicago).

Can you provide the URLs for those good Chicago online lists?
I've only seen <http://www.Chicago-Scene.com> and the business lists at
<http://www.switchboard.com>. I get to Chicago every now and then and would
like check out a useful site before my next trip. Thanks.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Percussion Grafting
Date: 24 Aug 1998 18:47:47 +0000


At 02:54 PM 8/24/98 -0400, Ross wrote:
>Well, a friend just gave me what might be the Ultimate Percussion Graft LP:
>_Ping Pong Percussion Lerner & Lowe_(Spinorama).

I think Spinorama did a couple of other "Ping Pong Percussion" records
equally hideous (each one centering around a different Broadway composer).
I have thought about placing the little bits in with
my segues to other more palatable selections (removing the other part of
the cuts with the strings, etc.).

The covers are quite interesting, though.  I am planning on whitening them
to be used as background for some pages on my website.

Actually, adding percussion is better than the reverse.  When ABC-Paramount
added strings to the Ferrante & Teicher prepared percussion album to make a
new release, well let me tell you I was a bit peeved.

And, how about those albums that stretch the meaning of percussion to
represent any kind of rhythm? I've got one that promises Spanish
Percussion...and it is simply traditional Spanish music (recorded off mike
at that), or the Percussive Piano record that was standard honky tonk piano.

Oh well, as long as the records only cost 25 cents or less, you might as well
try them out.  You never know if you'll find a GOOD percussion album that
you've never heard of.

Byron

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the investigator(was: Rarest of the rare LPs)
Date: 24 Aug 1998 22:48:51 -0400 (EDT)


At 10:58 AM 8/23/98 -0500, frank/recliner wrote:
>
>While thrifting in Tallahassee I came upon a record that I have but I had
>never seen in the past ten years of record browsing.
>
>The record is called _The Investigator_ and it came out on the
>Discuriosities label (LP6834).
>This is the only infomation on the album aside from "copyright 1954 Radio
>Rarities" printed on the label, quotations included.

I've got 2 or 3 copies of that one myself. Always wondered who was behind
that odd little effort.

The only reference I've seen to it is in Goldmine's Comedy(?) Record Price
Guide.
Here's part of the entry - perhaps someone here can fill in more blanks:

The Investigator: A Political Satire (Folkways 451 or Discuriosities LP
6834)*1/2
There was nothing on the front or back cover of this album to indicate who
"The Investigator" was. And with good reason. This is a satire on Senator
Joseph McCarthy, and when it came out, McCarthy was a dangerous personality
to joke about.

<snip of plot description>

There seems to have been a good-size pressing of this one. Since the album
doesn't allude to McCarthy directly (times being what they were), many
browsers ignore it as just another obscure comedy record. It has not
attracted the attention it should as a collector's item of historical interest.


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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Combustible Edison
Date: 24 Aug 1998 22:57:41 -0400


I was lucky enough to find a pre-release copy of their new CD, The
Impossible World, at a second hand CD shop.

My thoughts after one listen:  it is far better than the last album, but not
as consistent as their first.  That said, it does contain what I think to be
one of their bests songs ever -- the opening track, Utopia.  Truly
wonderful.  (The CD includes a bonus remix by experimental sound artist
Scanner.)

Dior is a French-inspired number, very similar to Lai's A Man and a Woman.
Great scat by Miss Lily on this one.

Hot and Bothered has a bit of a Batman-theme to it.  Silly, and it doesn't
work.

Tickled to Death is a really odd track -- much more aggressive than anything
they've done before.  Goes all over the place.

The closing track, In the Garden of Earthly Delights, is as wonderful as the
opening track.  More great scat -- this one really swings.

The remaining tracks are what one would expect from CE.  Overall, a very
good album, and noticeably longer than their other two releases.

I also picked up a pre-release of the new Belle & Sebastian album, but I
haven't listened to it yet.

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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Questions and answers
Date: 24 Aug 1998 23:00:12 EST


Some things you maybe did or didn't want to know...

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
No, but if it means anything  I always wanted to play the bagpipes
when I was young , but it didn't go over well with my parents.

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
Probably Esquivel but in the process I rediscovered the old "Moog"
sound through Perrey & Kingsley.

> 3. This list could help you more by...
I think I'm near ready to get a trading network going.  Some of my
less successful finds may be others treasures and as we all know, few
stores these days will ever buy back any vinyl they sell you!

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
Anything that looks interesting and most often it's something I
really don't need. But really, the music collection takes up more than
enough of my time already, not to mention space.

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
The more difficult to classify the better.  I defy anyone to try to
organize our collection by type or style.  I'm a sucker for most
anything German and/or electronic. Particularly interested in all
things quirky, including demented kid's music and most anything made
with toy instruments or strange sounds.

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
That Nat may very well be Nash the Slash.  Nash (at least as far as I
know) is very much alive and living in Toronto, and nobody knows who
actually lurked under those bandages.

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound
> quality consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed
> clarity of CDS?  Tell us more!
We're on our second CD drive and into a new laser assembly in the CD
player, all this in less time than I've had to change one stereo
cartridge (moving coil only please!).  Those little discs are
convenient & sure no there's no disc ear but CD "hardware" just
doesn't cut it. You need to spend a LOT on a player to match the
sound quality of a decent turntable.  But then again, those little
discs sure are convenient...

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color?
> Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
Nope, does a yarmulkah count?  Pretty cool if you happen to live in
Israel or be an orthodox Jew but otherwise best kept in a drawer for
bar mitzvahs and other assorted events that cool is about the last
word to describe.

> 9. Shaken or stirred?
Depends on the season.   We get real winter here so boiled is
definitely an option.

> 10. I clean my LPS with ...
The old reliable discwasher but lately alcohol and cotton pads for
those "basement" finds and even that doesn't always work. We're about
ready for a Nitty Gritty.

> 11. My home page URL is:
I don't have time to help get our office site in order, let alone my
own! Someday...

> 12. I have a Licence To ...
Try to coerce people to listen to music they otherwise may never hear
or know exists.  Weapon of choice - a radio broadcast slot here on
Radio McGill - CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal...

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Nix Bamboo Hut, SF
Date: 25 Aug 1998 03:45:39 EDT


Wednesday night Exotica nights with Otto von Stroheim have been cancelled

Cross off the Bamboo Hut from your list of Tiki bars to visit while in San
Francisco. Fro now the only way to get into the bar is to pay the cover fee
for the adjacent club - The Highball Lounge.

And even then it is only open Wed - Sat.
Cover for that club runs $5.00 Wed/Thur
$7/$8 on Fri/Sat

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) San Francisco next week
Date: 25 Aug 1998 03:46:34 EDT


next week will mark the last of the summer's
Otto's Surf Party and the second of our monthly Lounge summit meetings at the
Tonga Room (the first Wednesday of the month)

Otto's Surf Party
Friday, Sept 4, 9 pm
Hotel Utah corner of Bryant & Fourth, SF
421-8308

as usual we will have great Polynesian drinks, free leis to the first 50
visitors, great surf music by local and outta town acts.

Jumbo Shrimp will be on hand to play the live accompaniment to their newly
released CD ep (which will be for sale)

The Inspectors will also be playing selections from their new CD (also for
sale)

And all the way from Seattle will be the Brainwashers (yes, also selling their
new CD)

Wednesday, Sept 2
The Lounge Summit will meet at the Tonga Room between 6 and 8. If you were
there last time and didn't find us it's because we were relegated to a dining
area table, so look hard this time.
Tonga Room is on the corner of California and Powell in the Fairmont Hotel.
Parking is available at 6 on the backside of the hotel off Powell (can't
remember the name of the street but it is a one way going uphill from Powell)

I'll buy a drink for anyone who travels more than 10 miles to attend!!

cheers
Otto


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Opinions: Baxter's "African Jazz"
Date: 25 Aug 1998 03:48:02 -0600


At 15:51 23/08/98 PDT, you wrote:
>
>Les Baxter's "African Jazz" (I think that's the title).  You who have heard
>it, how is it?


It's very jazzy. Jazzy exotica. I like it. A bit more swinging than a lot of
Les' lush stuff. It is fairly common to find and definitly worth a purchase.
I play a few tracks from it out from time to time. Just remember...it's jazzy.

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tipsy on Guinness
Date: 25 Aug 1998 03:21:48 PDT


just watching the tv last night and noticed a new ad for guinness which
had, i think, tuataro  by tipsy as the music. it was something for
canned guinness (yeuch! sinners) telling you how to get a great head at
home or something like that. i don't know if they would be using this ad
in other territories.

btw shortly after i posted a couple of times recently the digest stopped
coming to me so i apologise if i didn't reply to anyone who mailed me.
cheers
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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Percussion Grafting
Date: 25 Aug 1998 13:01:58 +0100


> From: [e-mail]
>
> At 02:54 PM 8/24/98 -0400, Ross wrote:
> >Well, a friend just gave me what might be the Ultimate Percussion Graft LP:
> >_Ping Pong Percussion Lerner & Lowe_(Spinorama).
>
> I think Spinorama did a couple of other "Ping Pong Percussion" records
> equally hideous (each one centering around a different Broadway composer).

Yep, I've got the "Ping Pong" Leroy Anderson album.




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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Percussion Grafting
Date: 25 Aug 1998 09:08:41 -0500


Ping Pong Percussion of Jerome Kern, aka Ping Pong Percussion -- Tribute to
Jerome Kern aka Tribute to Jerome Kern, Ping Pong Percussion deserves to
place in the percussion graft sweepstakes. A bizarre record with a truly
odious The Way You Look Tonight. Al Goodman, who leads the orchestra, made
no attempt to segue (Hey Johan!) between the timid percussion openings and
the treacly Stradivari Strings arrangements. Yet the liner notes recount
Goodman's ties to Earl Carroll, Al Jolson, and the Shubert organization.
Great black/gray/red on white cover graphics. Another fine issue from
Pirouette. Look for this one, Ross.

The packaging actually lists the title three different ways.

"For you who dine by candlelight and toast your conversation with
champagne...here are unforgettable moments..."

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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Percussion Grafting
Date: 25 Aug 1998 10:21:09 -0400




> Ping Pong Percussion of Jerome Kern, aka Ping Pong Percussion -- Tribute
> to
> Jerome Kern aka Tribute to Jerome Kern, Ping Pong Percussion deserves to
> place in the percussion graft sweepstakes.
>
I bought this one for cheap, thank goodness, about 2 years ago.  Played it
once.  Couldn't take it, not at all.  Mimi is right on about this one,
include it.  If you want it, let me know, you can but it from me, cheap.

surfing the chaos,

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Summer Reruns
Date: 25 Aug 1998 11:19:52 -0400


"Barbarella" is getting another airing on TNT, late tonight/early Wednesday at
3:00am.

It's preceded by "2001: A Space Odyssey" at Midnight (also TNT). Accept no
imitations or sequels. See if Ted's crew does their usual clunky trick of
inserting a commercial break in the middle of the bone-to-spaceship jump cut.

"Jazz On A Summer's Day", the documentary of the 1958 Newport Jazz Festival,
gets a rerun on Bravo at 5:00pm on Saturday.

(all eastern daylight times)

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Percussion Grafting
Date: 25 Aug 1998 11:28:50 -0400


> or the Percussive Piano record that was standard honky tonk piano.

Then again, the piano is technically a percussion instrument.

Which would make Keith Jarrett solo records percussion spectaculars? :oP

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From: Robert Sloane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Opinions: Baxter's "African Jazz"
Date: 24 Aug 1998 19:13:05 -0500


At 06:44 PM 8/24/98 +0200, Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek wrote:
>You're confusing it with "African blue", which is a nice record - but
>not the same as "African Jazz"!

You are so right; sorry.  My bad.

A crimson hue,

Rob


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From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Spaghetti: Duck You Suckers!
Date: 25 Aug 1998 14:42:41 -0400


I saw this title listed in a mail-order catalog with no other info except
that it was in the soundtracks section.  Does anybody know what it is?

LT
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Spaghetti: Duck You Suckers!
Date: 25 Aug 1998 15:21:16 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-25 14:45:41 EDT, you write:


http://www.xnet2.com/bomp/searchable/9806/msg00160.html

or

http://www.buyordie.com/artists/SawneyBean/SB_Top_Ten.htmlá

let us know what is going on here Tony (or is it Donald???).

robert

<< Subj:     (exotica) Spaghetti: Duck You Suckers!
 Date:    98-08-25 14:45:41 EDT
 From:    [e-mail] (Lang Thompson)
 Sender:    [e-mail]
 To:    [e-mail]


 I saw this title listed in a mail-order catalog with no other info except
 that it was in the soundtracks section.  Does anybody know what it is?

 LT >>


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From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Spaghetti: Duck You Suckers!
Date: 25 Aug 1998 22:05:39 -0400


At 06:40 PM 8/25/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Lang,
>
>There is a film called "A Fistful of Dynamite" (England) or "Duck You
>Sucker" (U.S.) scored by Ennio Morricone back in the 1970s.  This is one
>of Morricone's scores for a spaghetti western.  The film, set in Mexico,
>deals with an Irishman who assists a Mexico peasant during the
>revolution.  The Irishman (James Coburn) is a munitions expert and the
>peasant is played by Rod Steiger.  This is definitely a score to pick up
>on CD; at also is avaiable on LP.  If I can be of assistance in either
>respect, please holler. Thanks, Kerry



So it's a straight reissue of the soundtrack?  (A weird one, at least in
the film.)  The title threw me a bit.  LT
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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Test
Date: 25 Aug 1998 23:04:10 -0400


Are my messages getting through?  My E-mail has been acting odd lately.

Sorry for the intrusion.

a.



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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Opinions: Baxter's "African Jazz"
Date: 26 Aug 1998 14:55:25 +0200


>From: Robert Sloane <[e-mail]>

>I'll register a positive vote for this one, as well.  I have it on a 2-fer
>CD by GNP Crescendo, issued with Baxter's _The Colors of Brazil_ (which I
>also think is quite good).

    that's "African BLUE" allright, but that GNP cd is still
    well worth buying! a different Baxter, but reallllllll nice!
    after listening repeatedly, i've increased its rating from 3 to 4/5.

        Johan


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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 13:16:06 -0400


Has anyone besides me ever wondered what kind of wacky porn movie (soft or
otherwise) would use Mah Na Mah Na as part of it's soundtrack?  It just
doesn't seem...
sexy.

I don't know.
I was just thinking about that and thought it was interesting.


Peter


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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 10:39:37 -0700


Peter Risser wrote:
>
> Has anyone besides me ever wondered what kind of wacky porn movie (soft or
> otherwise) would use Mah Na Mah Na as part of it's soundtrack?  It just
> doesn't seem...
> sexy.

you want sexy mah na mah na????????? hunt down a copy of Lypstique's
*disco* version, complete with sex kitten moaning the words, building to
an orgasm of sorts toward the end!!!!

pea


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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 14:02:09 -0500


> Has anyone besides me ever wondered what kind of wacky porn movie (soft or
> otherwise) would use Mah Na Mah Na as part of it's soundtrack?  It just
> doesn't seem...
> sexy.

Benny Hill seemed to get a lot of mileage from it...

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 20:12:20 +0100


> From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
>
> > Has anyone besides me ever wondered what kind of wacky porn movie (soft or
> > otherwise) would use Mah Na Mah Na as part of it's soundtrack?  It just
> > doesn't seem...
> > sexy.

Um, didn't the film cover bikers and alcoholics as well as
wife-swapping and general nookie? You know, the whole of then-modern
Swedenlife. Maybe it was the comedy "alcoholic struggles to find car
keys" theme. Or something.

>
> Benny Hill seemed to get a lot of mileage from it...
>

"It". "It". Fnarr fnarr.

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) SlapSlapSlapSlapSlapSlapSlap!
Date: 26 Aug 1998 15:23:15 -0400


> Benny Hill seemed to get a lot of mileage from it...

The Benny Hill chase music was "Yakety Sax" by Boots Randolph.

Somtimes it was that and other times it was Mah-Na, Mah-Na.  Never let it
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 20:40:26 +0100


Peter wrote:
>
>Has anyone besides me ever wondered what kind of wacky porn movie (soft or
>otherwise) would use Mah Na Mah Na as part of it's soundtrack?  It just
>doesn't seem...
>sexy.
>
Mah Na Mah Na was one of a few tunes regularly used by smut supremo Benny
Hill as accompaniment to his saucy wordless speeded-up film sketches, which
usually involved old men chasing scantily clad girls.  I can't remember all
the
other tunes he used, but Yakety Sax (Boots Randolph) was certainly one.

Hill's show did nothing at all for me, I'm afraid.  Now, Goldie Hawn on
"Laugh-in",
that's a different thing entirely!

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From: Chris Cook <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 15:46:59 -0400


>> It just
>> doesn't seem...
>> sexy.

I think that a portion of the audience here *may* have their perception of
this song significantly colored by the momentous version by the Sesame
Street muppets.  This tune may actually be the most important tune of my
own Training Pants Era.

Am I alone on this one?

--chris c.

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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 16:06:18 -0500


In response just thought I'd re-post this from 7/21/98:


>I am, of course, referring to Ma-Nah Ma-Nah from the soundtrack of Swedish
>Heaven or Hell (apologies if I got any part of that wrong.  the exact title
>of the movie and the spelling of the song title are suspect).

I just picked up a great version of this tune by Leroy Holmes on an album
"Themes from the New Provacative Films". ( Mah-Na Mah-Na with back
slashes in the a in Na.)

What amazes me about this song is that I first heard it on Sesame Street.
How the song quickly moved from a racy Swedish movie (presuming that's
what 'provocative means') to a kids television show is beyond my
comprehension.

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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 15:10:36 -0500



Chris Cook wrote:
>
> I think that a portion of the audience here *may* have their perception of
> this song significantly colored by the momentous version by the Sesame
> Street muppets.  This tune may actually be the most important tune of my
> own Training Pants Era.
>
> Am I alone on this one?
>

Sometimes, when I hear "Mah Na Mah Na", I see visions of Billy Barty in a
Martian costume on the "Red Skelton Show". I guess this means I'm a little
older than the Sesame Street generation...

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Subject: Re: (exotica) SlapSlapSlapSlapSlapSlapSlap!
Date: 26 Aug 1998 16:28:19 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-26 15:21:52 EDT, you write:

<< The Benny Hill chase music was "Yakety Sax" by Boots Randolph.

 Somtimes it was that and other times it was Mah-Na, Mah-Na.  Never let it
 be said that he did something the same way twice on his shows :^)
  >>

With all those breast flopping around I have always thought as The Benny Hill
Show as the Hee Haw of England.  Anyone with me on this????

SALUTE ! ! ! ! ! !

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 16:32:28 EDT


My memory of this song if from the martian scene opening Red Skelton used on
his variety show?  Now is anybody with me on this one????

Robert

In a message dated 98-08-26 15:52:03 EDT, Chris writes:

<< I think that a portion of the audience here *may* have their perception of
 this song significantly colored by the momentous version by the Sesame
 Street muppets.  This tune may actually be the most important tune of my
 own Training Pants Era.

 Am I alone on this one?

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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Rarest of the rare LPs
Date: 26 Aug 1998 17:11:44 -0500



>I don't see the point of investigating rare LPs or records unless they have
>a value or a merit.For instance, I and most other people know extremely
>rare LPs and records which are also crap and don't deserve a mention.


I think the reaction we see here is a carbon copy to the reaction that
most record collectors had  10-15 years ago about our most prized exotica
albums.
This is ass backwards thinking.

Any value or merit comes out of an interest not the other way around.

A perplexed by the resonse -  Frank.

>This whole story got me to thinking that this forum (the exotica mailing
>list) would be the perfect 'screen' for finding out the rarest of the rare
>LPs.
>
>All you have to do is post those albums that you believe to be rare based
>on your experiences of never having seen another copy in your travels. If
>any one else owns or has seen this LP, with positive identification,  it
>would be eliminated from the list. It might be assumed that major label
>issues (i.e. RCA, Capitol, etc.) would be eliminated from this survey
>considering that they typically issued far more copies of their albums
>than the 'off' labels. You may want to list local "vanity" pressings which
>most likely only circulated regionaly but, consider again if you yourself
>have seen another copy. This would for instance disqualify my listing of
>The Whistling Nun from Biddeford, Maine doing songs from the sound of
>music, which I assume to be a very small pressing but, I have seen other
>copies of this in my area.




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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Phe-na-mah-nal!
Date: 26 Aug 1998 17:23:10 -0400


>What amazes me about this song is that I first heard it on Sesame Street.
>How the song quickly moved from a racy Swedish movie (presuming that's
>what 'provocative means') to a kids television show is beyond my
>comprehension.

It was actually quite in character for them.  Sesame Street is where I also
heard versions of "Help!" and "The Word" (Beatles) and "Spinning Wheel"
(Blood, Sweat and Tears).  Let's not also forget that some of their
cartoons had wild soundtracks.  One, which had a woman counting to 12, with
mind-blowing visuals and a sitar soundtrack.  Another one (the segment that
ended with the ten fellows with trenchcoats that had numbers on the inside
lapels.  Hmm... that sounds pretty provocative at that!  It featured
different numbers) had frenetic instrumentation; wild drum solos, flanged
guitar.  On top of that a woman is saying a number ("teeennnnn") in various
tones of voice, at turns suggestive and histrionic.

Some of the previous makes a Muppet (trivia: that is a condensation of the
words Marionette and Puppet) going off the deep end on the improv section
of "Mah-Na, Mah-Na" sort of tame and funny, which the show almost always
was (and still is, although I stopped learning from it about 6 years ago :^).

1,2,3,4,5,6,7, 8, Niiiinne, 10,
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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 26 Aug 1998 15:53:02 -0700


At 08:40 PM 8/26/98 +0100, Hugh pondered:

>Mah Na Mah Na was one of a few tunes regularly used by smut supremo Benny
>Hill as accompaniment to his saucy wordless speeded-up film sketches, which
>usually involved old men chasing scantily clad girls.  I can't remember all
>the
>other tunes he used, but Yakety Sax (Boots Randolph) was certainly one.

I have a promo-only Benny Hill single, with the songs Yakety Sax and Ernie
the Fastest Milkman in the West.  It says the songs were arranged by Benny
Hill and Ronnie Aldrich (!), with Mr. Aldrich as musical director.
Recorded at Abbey Road Studios 1991.  Both taken from the album "Benny
Hill...The Best of", Continuum Records.

I always thought Yakety was the theme, and Mah-na-na was the chase music.

On PBS here, they recently replaced "As time goes by" with Benny Hill, the
scoundrels.

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music to Hurricane By . . . George Cates
Date: 26 Aug 1998 19:32:02 EDT


Well Hurricane Bonnie missed us (us being in the Charleston area of South
Carolina).  Because of the possible landfall most of the businesses were
closed this morning so I caught up on some albums that I recently acquired.

One interesting one is by George Cates.  The album is titled "Lawrence Welk
presents George Cates Polynesian Percussion".  Undoubtedly old Larry was
trying to capitalize on the Denny/Lyman/Baxter/Etc./Exotica craze.  I can just
see Welk jumping on this one.  I almost passed on this one but at 50 cents I
figured I could continue my microwave studies if I did not like it.

I was a little surprised.  This guy seems to have positioned himself right
between Denny and Baxter.  Forgive me for stating the obvious:  We sorta have
these two camps:  The Denny Camp known for the (dare I say) campy factor and
heavy (and I will say unconventional) percussion vs. The Baxter Camp which
utilized typical orchestration to achieve an exotic flare.

Well Cates marries the two nicely.  The arrangements are heavily into exotic
percussion.  Most of the instruments listed on the sleeve I have never heard
of.  Are you ready for this? -- guiro, boo-bams, rhythm logs, celeste,
marimba, xylophone, bells, pu ili [or pui sticks], kalaau, uli uli, tympani,
timbales conga drum, bongos (even I know that one), maracas, finger cymbals
[or "ching-chings"], electric bass, sting bass and triangle.

Quite obviously missing are the bird and animal calls (a la' Denny) and there
wasn't a violin within ten miles of the recording studio -- there is a hint of
an exotic woman chanting on some cuts (so you Amy fans can just eat that up).
There are no ukuleles but the electric guitar does give it a Hawaiian flare on
some songs.

These are the selections:

Pagan Love Song
The Hawaiian Wedding Song
Hawaiian War Chant
The Moon of Manakoora
Drifting and Dreaming
Chant of the Jungle
Bali Ha'i
Now Is The Hour (yes a waltz but you would never guess it)
Beyond the Reef
Ka-Lu-A
My Isle of Golden Dreams
Song of the Islands

I cannot say if I have seen this album before or just passed it over in search
of something else.  It is on the DOT Records label and even has a diagram of
the positioning of the instruments in the recording studio.

What can any list members allow on Cates?  A search engine show that he was on
Radio and Club Velvet but the link is no longer valid.  Also Cates recorded
"Quiet Village" on his "Third Man Theme" album.  There is a historical page on
him at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/cates.htm for those interested.

But what I want is list members' opinions.  I just wonder how I overlooked the
dude for years.  For those Denny and Baxter fans out there I would be on the
watch for this one.

Robert

P.S.  The picture on the cover of him looks like Otto von Stroheim of Tiki
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Subject: (exotica) Art, or Hal Mooney?
Date: 26 Aug 1998 20:03:05 EDT


I don't know if this will answer your Hal/Art question, but I have an LP by
Art Mooney on the Promenade label titled "Cha Cha Cha".  It's a mediocre
record, and I'd say the version of "Caravan" on it, is probably the best part.
By the way, it is correctly titled "Caravan".

song list
Who's Sorry Now
Jamaica
I Let A Song Go Out Of My Heart
Midnight Dream
Hands Across The Table
Dwana

Caravan
Shine On Harvest Moon
Chi Chi Castenango
Glow Worm
In The Shade Of The Old Apple Tree

On the back is a short bio of Mooney, born in Lowell, Mass., played sax, etc.

Are the two guys the same?  I have no idea, but a guess is that he worked
under both names as a way to avoid an undesirable contract?  Who knows?

Larry


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: George Cates
Date: 26 Aug 1998 20:43:30 -0400


>One interesting one is by George Cates.  The album is titled "Lawrence Welk
>presents George Cates Polynesian Percussion".

I have been searching for this record like CRAZY ever since hearing Mimi's
copy--it's wonderful. Even though it tends toward the more subdued side,
there's an atmosphere to it that I just love. . .

One great thing about it is the heavy use of the Hammond Novachord. This
was a 100% tube oscillator organ that Hammond started making in the 30s I
think. In other words, this is the grand-daddy of all fat-sounding analog
synths. But it used *hundreds* of tubes, so needless to say it was
expensive and totally unreliable, and didn't stay on the market long. But
it made some great, juicy, cheesy, buzzy sounds and _Polynesian Percussion_
puts it right out in front. Great Boo-bam solos too.

Now Cates toiled away in the backround on nearly every Welk musical
production for decades--I think you can catch glipses on him on the Welk TV
show occasionally. But as far as I can tell, he never did anything else as
cool as _Polynesian_. Anyone know otherwise?

Cheers,


 --Ross

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Chicago
Date: 26 Aug 1998 20:41:01 EDT


I found the House of Tiki through the list of Chicago bars at:

http://centerstage.net/chicago

I found the Aloha Bikini Bar through the Citisoft Location Database

http://www.citisoft.com/citi2011.htm

Since I posted the last message,  I discovered a site called the TIKI BAR
REVIEW PAGE with a list of tiki bars in Chicago and elsewhere in the U.S.!!!!
It's at:

http://www.suba.com/~tydirium/tikimain.html

I also found the following lists devoted to Chicago nightlife and
entertainment:

http://www.chiweb.com/chicago/nightlife.html
http://www.barsonline.com/chicago.htm
http://www.cagis.uic.edu/venue/NightLife.html
http://www.chicago-guide.com/
http://www.boulevards.com/chicago/music/music.html

Happy Surfing

Sean

http://members.aol.com/Pearmania/Default.htm


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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bernie Krause in USA Today
Date: 26 Aug 1998 20:15:24


This is a bit late to find on the newsstands, but the 26 August 98 edition
of USA Today (or as a friend of mine described it, "freeze-dried
television") has a feature article on Bernie Krause (of Beaver & Krause,
"In A Wild Sanctuary" fame) in the science section.  Although the focus is
on his recordings of natural habitats, it's an excellent overview of his
career (he was a studio musician on the "Soupy Sales Show," among other
things. And it ends with his URL:

www.wildsanctuary.com


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From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Music to Hurricane By . . . George Cates
Date: 26 Aug 1998 19:18:46 -0500 (CDT)


>What can any list members allow on Cates?  A search engine show that he was on
>Radio and Club Velvet but the link is no longer valid.


here it be:

http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/rv/rv.html

-kk




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: George Cates
Date: 26 Aug 1998 22:39:02 EDT


It really is spectacular.  Confirms my notion that just when you think you
heard it
all . . . . .

And I really don't think it is that subdued.  To me it really is a blend of
Baxter and Denny.  The site I posted had a good bio on it and another site had
a discography which was moderatley extensive (about 15 or so albums/credits I
think).

KingKini's comments:

<<>What can any list members allow on Cates?  A search engine show that he was
on
>Radio and Club Velvet but the link is no longer valid.

here it be:

http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/rv/rv.html

-kk>>

were not that helpful.  there is just info on the radio program and no mention
of Cates that I saw.

And what about the Otto look-a-like comment?  You ever seen Otto in the Tiki
News?  Blows my mind.

Robert

In a message dated 98-08-26 20:41:23 EDT, you write:

<< >One interesting one is by George Cates.  The album is titled "Lawrence
Welk
 >presents George Cates Polynesian Percussion".

 I have been searching for this record like CRAZY ever since hearing Mimi's
 copy--it's wonderful. Even though it tends toward the more subdued side,
 there's an atmosphere to it that I just love. . .

 One great thing about it is the heavy use of the Hammond Novachord. This
 was a 100% tube oscillator organ that Hammond started making in the 30s I
 think. In other words, this is the grand-daddy of all fat-sounding analog
 synths. But it used *hundreds* of tubes, so needless to say it was
 expensive and totally unreliable, and didn't stay on the market long. But
 it made some great, juicy, cheesy, buzzy sounds and _Polynesian Percussion_
 puts it right out in front. Great Boo-bam solos too.

 Now Cates toiled away in the backround on nearly every Welk musical
 production for decades--I think you can catch glipses on him on the Welk TV
 show occasionally. But as far as I can tell, he never did anything else as
 cool as _Polynesian_. Anyone know otherwise?

 Cheers,


  --Ross >>


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Hurricane By . . . George Cates
Date: 26 Aug 1998 22:40:18 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-26 20:11:07 EDT, you write:

<< here it be:

 http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/rv/rv.html

 -kk >>

King,

Can you elaborate on where there is info/music by Cates here.  Sorry, I am a
little confused.

Robert


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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thoughts on Dylan Jones' book
Date: 26 Aug 1998 22:58:44 -0400


Has there already been a discussion of Dylan Jones' book 'Ultra Lounge:  The
Lexicon of Easy Listening'?  Any thoughts or opinions on the book?  I just
finished reading it today, and I was a bit disappointed.

The intro was interesting, as were some of the extended essays by Irwin
Chusid or David Toop.  However, many of the other entries on artists were
very weak.  There were some errors as well (spelling and factual).  I also
found it odd that in the intro there is mention of the band Rotary
Connection as "the best kept secret in the loungecore cannon" yet no entry
for them in the lexicon.

Still, not a bad book -- better as a primer than a proper lexicon.  The many
color pages of album covers is worth the price alone.

Any other opinions?

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From: [e-mail] (Subliminal Sounds)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Spaghetti: Duck You Suckers!
Date: 27 Aug 1998 05:02:27 +0200 (MET DST)


>>There is a film called "A Fistful of Dynamite" (England) or "Duck You
>>Sucker" (U.S.) scored by Ennio Morricone back in the 1970s. This is
>definitely a score to pick up
>>on CD; at also is avaiable on LP.

>So it's a straight reissue of the soundtrack?  (A weird one, at least in
>the film.)  The title threw me a bit.  LT

Dunno about the 1970's film? but Spaghetti: "Duck You Suckers!" is a new
compilation (LP/CD) with hot rockin' contemporary instro groups from all
over the world. Hank Ray & the Executioneers, The Hellbenders, Justice Hahn,
DM Bob & the Deficits, Death Valley, The Daytones (from Sweden!), The
Charles Napiers, The Penetrators, The Plantronics, Brazil 2001, The Falcons,
The Space Hobos, Mark Brodie & the Beaver Patrol, The Satelliters,  It's a
fake soundtrack. Great music though. Available from us at Subliminal Sounds.
E-mail me privatly if interested.

Stefan
Stefan/Subliminal Sounds

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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) It's been updated...
Date: 26 Aug 1998 22:46:02 -0600


Please, no heart attacks, but the list page is updated.

<http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Lists/Exotica.html>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mah Na Mah Na
Date: 27 Aug 1998 08:57:18 +0100


I always thought this was a re-working of Spanish Flea,  (see Herb
Alpert/Sergio Mendes in my collection).



Il Maestro Con Queso

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Phe-na-mah-nal!
Date: 27 Aug 1998 03:16:32 -0600



 Another one (the segment that
>ended with the ten fellows with trenchcoats that had numbers on the inside
>lapels.  Hmm... that sounds pretty provocative at that!  It featured
>different numbers) had frenetic instrumentation; wild drum solos, flanged
>guitar.  On top of that a woman is saying a number ("teeennnnn") in various
>tones of voice, at turns suggestive and histrionic.

>1,2,3,4,5,6,7, 8, Niiiinne, 10,
>Brian Phillips

Wow! I'm glad someone else has mentioned this "10" segment. I was discussing
this with a friend recently on just how fab it is. I would give my right arm
for  that track on vinyl or CD!

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From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thoughts on Dylan Jones' book
Date: 27 Aug 1998 11:50:12 +0200


Andrew Grant wrote:
>
> Has there already been a discussion of Dylan Jones' book 'Ultra Lounge:  The
> Lexicon of Easy Listening'?  Any thoughts or opinions on the book?  I just
> finished reading it today, and I was a bit disappointed.

Is this the same book as Jones' "Easy! - the lexicon of lounge"? From
your description I guess it is. Maybe a matter of British versus
American edition? If it is the same book, then I can say that I'm
disappointed as well. Just a book to read once and then put on your
shelf forever.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Art, or Hal Mooney?
Date: 27 Aug 1998 11:50:34 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I don't know if this will answer your Hal/Art question, but I have an LP by
> Art Mooney on the Promenade label titled "Cha Cha Cha".  It's a mediocre
> record, and I'd say the version of "Caravan" on it, is probably the best part.
> By the way, it is correctly titled "Caravan".

The song list that you gave is the same as on the album on the
Celebrity-label, apart from the fact that 'Caravan' has a different
title.

> Are the two guys the same?  I have no idea, but a guess is that he worked
> under both names as a way to avoid an undesirable contract?  Who knows?

Could be. For the moment I just assume that the compilers of the cd "The
exotic trilogy" mixed up Art and Hal.

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) SlapSlapSlapSlapSlapSlapSlap!
Date: 27 Aug 1998 11:32:18 +0100


> From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
>
> > Benny Hill seemed to get a lot of mileage from it...
>
> The Benny Hill chase music was "Yakety Sax" by Boots Randolph.
>
> Somtimes it was that and other times it was Mah-Na, Mah-Na.  Never let it
> be said that he did something the same way twice on his shows :^)
>

Wow, I don't remember that! The show hasn't been on TV in the UK since
I was a little kid.

I've got two Benny Hill albums: the MFP one where he does "Ernie, The
Fastest Milkman..." and a Decca "The World Of Benny Hill", which I
believe is material from his BBC radio show (yes, he had a radio show
before he ever got on TV). These are not the world's greatest comedy
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From: "Andrea Rota" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Spaghetti: Duck You Suckers!
Date: 27 Aug 1998 14:29:21 +0200


> I saw this title listed in a mail-order catalog with no other info except
> that it was in the soundtracks section.  Does anybody know what it is?
>
> LT
> - ------------------------------------------------------
> Lang Thompson
> http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4
>
> New at the Funhouse website:  Alternate 100 American
> Films, Anthology of American Folk Music, Godzilla Bites!

It's a surf (instro) comp of cover tunes from western movies.

Andrea.

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From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Music to Hurricane By . . . George Cates
Date: 27 Aug 1998 02:45:37 -0500 (CDT)


 > http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/rv/rv.html
>
>Can you elaborate on where there is info/music by Cates here.  Sorry, I am a
>little confused.

i was only making clear the new URL for the Radio Velvet playlists in
response to:

>A search engine show that he was
>on Radio and Club Velvet but the link is no longer valid..

there is nothing George Cates related here other than the mention of his
name on a playlist or two.  sorry for any confusion.

i will add that a great Cates LP to look for (in addition to Polynesian
Percussion) is one called "Take Five" (Dot  DLP25400) which includes, among
other classics, his recordings of Caravan, Take Five and The Song of the
Nairobi Trio (which is my personal favorite version).

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Red Raven Records
Date: 27 Aug 1998 11:00:42 -0500


I just got this from Our Pal Irwin.
Worth a visit!
-Lou

>From: Irwin Chusid <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Red Raven Records
>
>I think we're all old enough to remember Red Raven Records:
>
>   http://elaine.teleport.com/~rfrederi/wraven1.shtml




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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gene Page obit
Date: 27 Aug 1998 12:04:19 -0500


                             *Gene Page
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Gene Page, the music producer-arranger of such hits as
Love Unlimited Orchestra's ``Love's Theme,'' and the Diana Ross-Lionel
Richie duet ``Endless Love,'' died Monday after a lengthy illness. He was 58.
    Known for lush use of strings, Page was behind such hits as Whitney
Houston's ``The Greatest Love of All,'' Richie's ``Truly,'' Barbra
Streisand's ``Stoney End,'' Johnny Mathis' ``Too Much, Too Little, Too
Late,'' Roberta Flack's ``Tonight I Celebrate My Love'' and James Taylor's
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Subject: (exotica) Denny's Exotica:  Mono vs. Stereo Questions
Date: 27 Aug 1998 12:25:23 EDT


A question for the list:  a site I recently re-visited had this entry:

"Martin Denny: Exotica (1957 Liberty)
Martin Denny's first LP. Originally recorded only in Mono. Rereleased in
1959, electronicaly rechanneled into Stereo by splitting the Mono
signal."

I thought I remember Ashley (and others??) saying that Mr. Denny actually re-
recorded Exotica when it was done in stereo.

I know that Quiet Village was re-recorded (at least in part) because I can
tell the difference between the mono v. the stereo version.  (For those
interested -- there is a real obvious difference just before Mr. Denny
launches into his piano solo -- check it out if you are so inclined)

Anyway,  were all the selections re-recorded for the stereo album or were just
selected cuts re-recorded.  And can anyone comment on the idea that the later
album was "electronicaly rechanneled into Stereo by splitting the Mono
signal"

Robert


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thoughts on Dylan Jones' "book"
Date: 27 Aug 1998 13:10:42 -0500


At 10:58 PM 8/26/98 -0400, Andrew Grant wrote:
>Has there already been a discussion of Dylan Jones' book 'Ultra Lounge:  The
>Lexicon of Easy Listening'?  Any thoughts or opinions on the book?

DJ's UL has been discussed and dismissed here previously. The following
summation (from Vic's Lounge) sez it all:

Ultra Lounge: The Lexicon of Easy Listening
If the above three books* are essential reading for the vintage music set,
then this book is simply important as a collector's item. The "author" (and
Vik usues that term extremely loosely) Dylan Jones ripped off various liner
notes and previously published material (all without permission) in order to
cash in on the "lounge" revival craze. Eventually, he and Universe (the
publisher) were sued not only by several of the plagarized authors but by
Capitol Records (who hold the trademark on "Ultra Lounge"), and this fluff
piece went out of print. You'll occasionally find it in used stores or
clearance tables. Get it only if you have the other three books on this page.

*Incredibly Strange Music V.1 and 2, and Lanza's Elevator Music.

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Remember when I was talking about Louis Farrakhan?
Date: 27 Aug 1998 13:18:10 -0400


Here is the proof!


http://www.fadetoblack.com/farrakhan/



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From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Music to Hurricane By . . . George Cates
Date: 27 Aug 1998 12:41:58 -0500 (CDT)


><< i will add that a great Cates LP to look for (in addition to Polynesian
> Percussion) is one called "Take Five" (Dot  DLP25400) which includes, among
> other classics, his recordings of Caravan, Take Five and The Song of the
> Nairobi Trio (which is my personal favorite version). >>
>
>you know i will be on the look out for this ! ! ! !


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Subject: (exotica) Local Heroes, er, Artists
Date: 27 Aug 1998 14:26:34 -0400


I've been meaning to throw this odd one in for comment, and maybe it fits in
with the rare thread, so...

It's a "split" album, cover missing. One side is "Westfield Glee Club: 35th
Anniversary" (Frank Scherer, Conductor). The other side features "Plainfield
Mendelssohn Glee Club: 25th Anniversary" (Ladislas Helfenbein, Conductor).

Both sides are male choirs with piano accompaniment, working their deliberate
way through batches of standards that date somewhat earlier than the standards
usually discussed here -- "76 Trombones", "John Henry", "Maiden Fair O Deign To
Tell", etc. The closest it gets to exotica might be "On The Road To Mandalay".
Recorded, I would guess, in empty halls or rehearsal spaces -- no audience
sounds.

The only record company information is:
Local Artists
547 E. Broad St.
Westfield, N.J.
The sides are numbered LO8P 3952 and LO8P 3953. I think it would fall into the
same area as high school band records and that sort of thing. "Local Artists"
maybe worked that market? Has anyone else heard of them? I don't see "Synthetic
Plastics" mentioned anywhere, but you never know... Thanks.

It is kind of nice to run across a relic from an era when it wasn't so unusual
for amateurs to make music. As opposed to today, when most people think of
music as a packaged commodity purchased at the mall.

The really odd thing is that I have no idea how this record got here. A few
months ago I found it stuffed in with a Bill Cosby album that's been here for
years!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Hurricane By . . . George Cates
Date: 27 Aug 1998 16:23:51 -0500


I've been a Geo Cates fan ever since I picked up a copy of "Hit Songs -
Hit Sounds" which feature the amazing Neil Le Vang on guitar. (I always
thought this was some wierd pseudonym,anyone any clues on ole Neil?)

The tune on this album that will blow you away is Ghost Guitar which
sounds like Al Caiola's 'tuff' guitar sound on a drunken holiday! It's
that wacky rocking yet tight arrangement plus a spooky feeling and evokes
the often asked exotica question "What were they thinking?".


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Thoughts on Dylan Jones' book
Date: 27 Aug 1998 16:26:52 EDT


it was good


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Gene Page obit
Date: 27 Aug 1998 19:13:33 EDT


<<  Gene Page, the music producer-arranger of such hits as
 Love Unlimited Orchestra's ``Love's Theme,'' and the Diana Ross-Lionel
 Richie duet ``Endless Love,'' died Monday after a lengthy illness. He was 58.
>>

Wow.  It was just yesterday that i picked up his just reissued (Razor & Tie)
blaxploit OST, Blacula.

Deadlier than Dracula.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Denny's Exotica:  Mono vs. Stereo Questions
Date: 27 Aug 1998 17:55:19 -0400


At 12:25 PM -0400 8/27/98, [e-mail] wrote:

>A question for the list:  a site I recently re-visited had this entry:
>
>>"Martin Denny: Exotica (1957 Liberty)
>>Martin Denny's first LP. Originally recorded only in Mono. Rereleased in
>>1959, electronicaly rechanneled into Stereo by splitting the Mono
>>signal."

>Anyway,  were all the selections re-recorded for the stereo album or were just
>selected cuts re-recorded.  And can anyone comment on the idea that the later
>album was "electronicaly rechanneled into Stereo by splitting the Mono
>signal"

The entire album was re-recorded in stereo, a year or so after it's initial
release. Arthur Lyman plays vibes on the mono version, Julius Wecheter
plays 'em on the stereo. The info about the electronic rechanneling is
wrong  - - although that's how most albums were re-done for stereo (each
seperate signal was then equalized differently, more bass on one side -
more treble on the other - to create an illusion of stereo)

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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Redbone
Date: 28 Aug 1998 00:26:27 -0700


In the early 70's, a band emerged on the rock/pop scene named Redbone, that
merged funky swamp-rock with traditional Native American Indian roots
music.  If anyone has any original albums by Redbone, I would appreciate it
if you could e-mail me directly, as I'm looking for the track listings for
their albums.

Here's the albums I know of:

Redbone (Epic) 1970
Potlatch (Epic) 1970
Message from a Drum (Epic) 1971
Wovoka (Epic) 1973
Beaded Dreams through Turqoise Eyes (Epic) 1974
Come and get your Redbone (Epic) 1975 [I think this is a greatest hits album]
Cycles (RCA) 1978

If anyone has any of these albums, I would appreciate a private e-mail with
the track listing.  Many thanks!

Dave


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Baretta 70 and Inner Dialogue
Date: 28 Aug 1998 02:57:30 -0600


Just got the brand new Crippled Dick Hot Wax release "Baretta 70", and it is
a stunner. It is taken from 70s Italian gory police films. Lots of
wacked-out funk and hard-hitting vocal screamers. Some is really trashy
sounding. Not really in a Dirty Harry vein. But this is a big recommendation
for it. Different from their other compilations. It's out in late September.

Also, finally got the Inner Dialogue LP after a good friend played it to me
a few years ago. This is on the Ranwood label from Hollywood that I think
there has been some discussion on in the past. This LP features lots of
"sort your head out" tracks with girly vocals and harmonies. Bizarre, even
scary lyrics even though it is supposed to be a self help LP. Does anyone
out there have any knowledge of this LP? It is definitely in a Free Design
vein, but a bit trashier. Strangely enough some dealer in England had it!
This is after me asking in collector shops all over the world for it!
Strange....

Jill "Mingo-go"

PS: I feel it is only fair that I tell you I work for Crippled Dick, but I
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Subject: (exotica) References for the nosy (like me!)
Date: 28 Aug 1998 07:20:28 -0400


I, as many other list members, have questions about this artist or that
artist and there are places to go on the Web that are good resources of
information, such as:

The Internet Movie Database

http://www.imdb.com/search

This is great to find out who was in what as well as who is GOING to be in
what, as if there is a project in production they list it.  They are also
good at listing who does soundtracks, too!  Maybe not 100% accurate, but
they do accept corrections.

The All Music Guide:

http://www.allmusic.com/

They aren't kidding!  They will at least list people and albums and with
better known artists, track listings and featured musicians.  Once again,
you can submit corrections if you spot inaccuracies.

The CD Database

http://www.cddb.com/

You want track listings?  They've got them.  You can also submit them if
you notice one missing (and there are holes).  Much to my surprise, they
listed the first West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band.

GEMM

http://www.gemm.com

Thank you, Lou Smith, for posting about this one a while back.  If you want
to buy music online, this is a great place to go.  They list several
vendors and will tell you which format the titles are available.  I always
go there to find out if something is available.

BMI

http://www.bmi.com/repertoire/database.html

Who wrote what?  Did they write anything else?  This is a fantastic place
to start.  No years of composition listed, sad to say, and not always
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Subject: Re: (exotica) References for the nosy (like me!)
Date: 28 Aug 1998 09:01:33 EDT


The site below is the one I mentioned a while back.  Does anybody know how to
easily load the title and tracks into the CD Player that comes with Windows
95.  Or has anyone downloaded any of the CD players listed at the site.

It would be great if these titles could be loaded with a click or two instead
of having to type them in.

Thanks,

Robert

In a message dated 98-08-28 07:17:21 EDT, you write:

<< The CD Database

 http://www.cddb.com/

 You want track listings?  They've got them.  You can also submit them if
 you notice one missing (and there are holes).  Much to my surprise, they
 listed the first West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band.
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From: dan hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the ipcress file
Date: 28 Aug 1998 14:38:04 +0100


hey! saw "the ipcress file" at the national film theatre (london) last
night - great to see it on the big screen ... absolute genius - the opening
credits where michael caine wakes up and makes coffee are just fantastic -
must've been pretty exotic for a bachelor to grind his own coffee beans and
use a caffetiere in his pad in 1965, never mind being able to cook (a great
feature of caine's character, harry palmer). a classic example of the
bachelor pad lifestyle, though it's interesting that harry palmer's
'lifestyle' is hardly louche or extravagent - very downbeat and almost
scuzzy ... but inestimably cool none-the-less ... the grainy quality
everything has is perfect - incredibly evocative of a lost (albeit
fictional) london of free-flowing traffic, tasty birds, dim coppers, sharp
suits, flash motors, phone numbers like "knightsbridge 2143", and the
beginning of a dissolution of identity, class, post-war certainties etc.

the typeface on the credits is beautiful. the cinematography is built for
the big-screen, so don't see it panned'n'scanned (if poss) ... john barry's
score is magnificent of course. his use of the cymbalum (is it?) is a
stroke of genius - what a sound! the kinda thing quincy jones might've done
(use exotic instruments) though with combined barry's arrangements and
numerous yet always creative variations on the theme, this soundtrack is a
killer ...

something else that struck me was that the brainwashing sequences (via
subjecting palmer to a  "multimedia" bombardment) were essentially
reminiscent of a chill-out room in a contemporary club (not even the
intensity of the main 'dancefloor', but the chill-out room!). and this was
supposed to wipe memories?!? ... how things change ... or perhaps the
filmmakers were remarkably prescient ;-)

out of interest, would anyone know who composed the electronic music used
in these brainwashing sequences??? couldn't see a credit ... could it have
been barry?

anyway, just wanted to share my delight in seeing this film.

cheers,
dan.


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) References for the nosy (like me!)
Date: 28 Aug 1998 10:09:58 -0500


At 07:20 AM 8/28/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>I, as many other list members, have questions about this artist or that
>artist and there are places to go on the Web that are good resources of
>information, such as:
>
>The Internet Movie Database
>http://www.imdb.com/search
>This is great to find out who was in what as well as who is GOING to be in
>what, as if there is a project in production they list it.  They are also
>good at listing who does soundtracks, too!  Maybe not 100% accurate, but
>they do accept corrections.

Here's another site for production rumors - gotta head over and see if they
say anything about "Esquivel":

Movie Warehouse's guide to upcoming movies provides information on
movies that, in most cases, have not been announced by the studios.
Information is included on the directors, main players, release date
information, current status, rumors on the plot and other
information.
World Wide Web: http://www.moviewarehouse.com/upcoming.html

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From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) Marshall Barer, 75, Lyricist, Dies
Date: 28 Aug 1998 15:10:12 GMT



    SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) -- Marshall Barer, who wrote the words for
the Broadway musical ``Once Upon a Mattress,'' as well as the ``Mighty
Mouse'' cartoon theme song, has died of cancer at the age of 75.
    The lyricist, who lived in Santa Fe, died Tuesday, according
to Jim Steinblatt of the American Society of Composers, Authors and
Publishers.
    Barer wrote ``Once Upon a Mattress'' with composer Mary
Rodgers. The 1959 musical, based on the fairy tale ``The Princess and
the Pea,'' rocketed Carol Burnett to stardom. The show, first done
off-Broadway, later moved to Broadway for a yearlong run. Burnett
starred in two television productions of the musical. A 1996 Broadway
revival starring Sarah Jessica Parker was not a success.
    Barer, born in New York City, began his career as an
illustrator for magazines. He was a staff lyricist and then an editor
of children's songs for Golden Records and also wrote material for
television's ``Bell Telephone Hour'' and ``That Was the Week That
Was.''
    Barer contributed lyrics to other Broadway musicals, including
``New Faces of '56,'' an updated edition of the ``Ziegfeld Follies''
(1957) and Duke Ellington's ``Pousse-Cafe'' (1966), as well as the
1966 off-Broadway revue, ``The Mad Show.''
    Besides Rodgers and Ellington, Barer collaborated with such
composers as Leroy Anderson, Hoagy Carmichael, Burton Lane, David
Raksin, Michel Legrand, Vernon Duke, Alec Wilder and, most recently,
Michael Feinstein.
    Baby boomers are most likely to know his lyrics for ```Here I
Come to Save the Day,'' the theme song for television's long-running
``The Mighty Mouse Playhouse.''
    ``Some claim to fame, huh?'' he told the Los Angeles Times in
an interview before his 70th birthday. ``I'm actually not all that
proud of it. I wrote it in the back of a taxicab. But it's great when
I tell people about it, and they respond with a gasp, `You wrote the
Mighty Mouse theme song?'''
    Barer is survived by a sister.



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Subject: Re: (exotica) References for the nosy (like me!)
Date: 28 Aug 1998 10:16:18 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-28 09:45:49 EDT, you write:

<< From my e-mail?  Cut and paste them. >>

i don't think it works this way.  if you go to "cd player" if find and open
the one that says configuration settings you will see that here are special
numbers and codes that link the titles with the cd (this assumes you have
entered a cd and it's titles into CD Player.

note that track one actually equals "0", and track 2 equals "1".  does this
help.

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: Re: (exotica) References for the nosy (like me!)
Date: 28 Aug 1998 10:40:21 -0400


Great site advice, Brian.
I am a regular visitor to all the sites you mention, with the exception
of cddb, which I will have to check out.

I would add the following.  Not all are brilliant now, but they are
improving all the time:

http://us.imdb.com/Search/soundtracks
I have a bookmark right into the soundtrack search section of the
internet movie database.

http://listings.ebay.com/aw/listings/list/category306/index.html
Yes, it's the records section of ebay, the auction site which now has
enough traffic for there to be some really interesting stuff there.
Discovering this ruined my life!  Also handy for finding actual snapshots
of market value for things, as you can search completed auctions.

http://www.lyrics.ch/
Reasonable selection of lyrics.  Good for finding the lyrics of old
standards, since a lot of Frank Sinatra compilations have been entered.

http://www.dejanews.com/
The newsgroup archive.  Handy for finding stuff for sale (a search for
'FS' AND what you  are looking for will generally bring it up if it is
there).  rec.music.marketplace.vinyl is the key group.

regards

Jonny

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From: d th <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hal/Art Mooney
Date: 28 Aug 1998 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT)


Some stuff:

Having seen pics of Hal and Art Mooney on record sleeves and covers, I
can assure you that they are two diferent people.

Art Mooney, bandleader, had a huge, huge hit in the 40's with "I'm
Looking Over  A Four Leaf Clover."

Hal Mooney, arranger and producer, did extensive work at Rca and
Mercury from the 40's-60's, and was married to Kay Starr, among others.

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From: Eb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Claudine Longet
Date: 28 Aug 1998 09:40:44 -0700


Someone emailed me this query, and I don't know the answer. Help?
---
I've been going crazy trying to find out which male artist did a duet
with Claudine around 1972-73. I don't know the title, but the chorus is
something like this:

"How you make me quiver,
How you make me smile,
??????????????????????
Guess I'm gonna stay here for awhile."

That's all I know! As far as I know, this song isn't on any of her
albums, rather it appears on the album done by the male artist she sang
with.

Any idea? (I'd be eternally grateful!)
---
Help?

Eb

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Spaghetti: Duck You Suckers!
Date: 28 Aug 1998 14:11:50 +0200


>From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>

>I saw this title listed in a mail-order catalog with no other info except
>that it was in the soundtracks section.  Does anybody know what it is?

    _someone_ (forgot to include the writer's name) on this list wrote:

    Sort of an Ennio Morricone tribute flavored with sinister
    spaghetti western instrumentals...

    it is NOT the soundtrack to "Duck You Sucker".

        Johan


        [e-mail]


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bio Ritmo
Date: 28 Aug 1998 14:30:12 -0500


Noticed the following in the racks today. Thumbs up/down anyone?

Dig the Percussive Poolside Persuasion of ... Bio Ritmo: Rumba baby Rumba!
(1998;Triloka)

-Lou




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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Claudine Longet
Date: 28 Aug 1998 15:35:22 -0400


Eb wrote:
>
> Someone emailed me this query, and I don't know the answer. Help?
> ---
> I've been going crazy trying to find out which male artist did a duet
> with Claudine around 1972-73. I don't know the title, but the chorus is
> something like this:
>
> "How you make me quiver,
> How you make me smile,
> ??????????????????????
> Guess I'm gonna stay here for awhile."

If I'm not mistaken, the third and fourth lines were:
"with all this love I have to give you
I guess I'm going to stay with you a while"

I remember this song, but I seem to believe it was done by a group
called the Bells.  It may have been called "Stay A While" - I 'm not
100% sure on that.  I don't recall any Claudine Longet connection,
unless she was in the group.  It was a really breathy song, that stuck
in the top-40 for a while.  Now I'm really showing my age....

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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Claudine Longet
Date: 28 Aug 1998 15:11:28 -0500



cheryl wrote:
>
> Eb wrote:
> >
> > Someone emailed me this query, and I don't know the answer. Help?
> > ---
> > I've been going crazy trying to find out which male artist did a duet
> > with Claudine around 1972-73. I don't know the title, but the chorus is
> > something like this:
> >
> > "How you make me quiver,
> > How you make me smile,
> > ??????????????????????
> > Guess I'm gonna stay here for awhile."
>
> If I'm not mistaken, the third and fourth lines were:
> "with all this love I have to give you
> I guess I'm going to stay with you a while"
>
> I remember this song, but I seem to believe it was done by a group
> called the Bells.  It may have been called "Stay A While" - I 'm not
> 100% sure on that.  I don't recall any Claudine Longet connection,
> unless she was in the group.  It was a really breathy song, that stuck
> in the top-40 for a while.  Now I'm really showing my age....

Cheryl is correct! The song is "Stay Awhile" by The Bells.

You can find it on the Rhino compilation "Have A Nice Day - Vol. 4".

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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) This Week on The Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 28 Aug 1998 16:27:53 +0000


New show available in RealAudio at The Retro Cocktail Hour website,
this week featuring jungle jazz by Les Baxter, Martin Denny and Ted
Auletta, tunes by Mancini, Light and Esquivel, plus Mr. Bongo, crime
jazz by Kenyon Hopkins and the Jankowski Singers' very Teutonic
rendering of "Light My Fire".  It's two hours of space age pop, with
a new show added to the site every week.

Requires RealPlayer 5.0 or G2 and at least a 28.8 Internet
connection.  Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:

http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm/retro.html

Enjoy!

Darrell Brogdon
Program Director
KANU
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
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Subject: (exotica) So which CD Player do you like?
Date: 28 Aug 1998 22:19:42 EDT


Anybody care to give their pro's and con's of the CD Players listed at:

http://www.cddb.com/downloads/index.html

I am still on the quest to get a new program that can automatically load the
tracks for me.

Thanks,

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) So which CD Player do you like?
Date: 28 Aug 1998 22:44:05 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> Anybody care to give their pro's and con's of the CD Players listed at:
>
> http://www.cddb.com/downloads/index.html

I downloaded a shareware version of CATraxx.  It works great as an inventory
tool.  The full version is $39, I think.
I purchased book inventory software (CATbooks) from the same author.  It is
nothing short of fantastic.  For $29 I have what I believe to be an almost
perfect book inventory system (and I have a few thousand books).

On the demo of CATraxx I tried the feature which imports data from cddb.  In a
matter of seconds the full track data on a cd is loaded.  I do have some obscure
cds it couldn't identify, though.  This is a problem with cddb, not CATraxx.

As soon as I get most of my books catalogued, I plan to buy the full version of
CATraxx and start on my cds, lps, 45s, and 8-tracks.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) auctions
Date: 28 Aug 1998 19:37:01 +0000


Auctions sort of give people an idea what the marketplace for used records
is like.  Of course, one of the problems is that in sealed bid auctions,
you often aren't informed of what the winning bid was.

However, you will know what the records won't cost: your losing bids.

Jack Costanzo records seem to run at least $10 in auctions now. Julie
London: $5 to $7.50 each (although Calendar Girl will set you back at least
$15). You can't get Irving Fields Bagels and Bongos for less than $3.50.
Sauter-Finnegan also seems popular...at least $7.50 an album.

I was surprised.  The only Esquivel record in the auction I got...$10.  I
would have expected to have a losing bid...but maybe with the CD out now,
the demand for used LPs of his is less.

Mancini records are quite plentiful, so $3.50 to $5.00 should get you
a nice stereo version of most of his albums.  The exception is the
More Music from Peter Gunn album, which must be priced $7.50 for the
stereo version (or higher).  I haven't yet seen his rarer soundtrack
albums at auction but wouldn't doubt that $10 would only be for starters.

You can get some Xavier Cugat albums at $3.50.  Enoch Light, Perez Prado,
Kenyon Hopkins, Dick Schory...(you know the list) tends to be more like
$5 each album according to my experience.

Thought you'd be interested.

Do you have any contrary information from your auction experiences?  This
is for auctions with reasonable minimum bids, not where the prices start at
$15!

Byron


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Subject: Re: (exotica) So which CD Player do you like?
Date: 29 Aug 1998 00:06:42 EDT


Thanks Mark,

I have been working with Notify CD which is a free program this evening.  I
finally got it up and going.  I will report to the list in a few days and let
you know if it is a keeper.

Robert

In a message dated 98-08-28 22:48:44 EDT, you write:

<< Subj:     Re: (exotica) So which CD Player do you like?
 Date:    98-08-28 22:48:44 EDT
 From:    [e-mail] (Mark Benton Reed)
 To:    [e-mail], [e-mail]



 [e-mail] wrote:

 > Anybody care to give their pro's and con's of the CD Players listed at:
 >
 > http://www.cddb.com/downloads/index.html

 I downloaded a shareware version of CATraxx.  It works great as an inventory
 tool.  The full version is $39, I think.
 I purchased book inventory software (CATbooks) from the same author.  It is
 nothing short of fantastic.  For $29 I have what I believe to be an almost
 perfect book inventory system (and I have a few thousand books).

 On the demo of CATraxx I tried the feature which imports data from cddb.  In
a
 matter of seconds the full track data on a cd is loaded.  I do have some
obscure
 cds it couldn't identify, though.  This is a problem with cddb, not CATraxx.

 As soon as I get most of my books catalogued, I plan to buy the full version
of
 CATraxx and start on my cds, lps, 45s, and 8-tracks.

 Mark Reed
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From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hal/Art Mooney
Date: 29 Aug 1998 18:05:18 +0200


d th wrote:
>
> Having seen pics of Hal and Art Mooney on record sleeves and covers, I
> can assure you that they are two diferent people.
>
> Art Mooney, bandleader, had a huge, huge hit in the 40's with "I'm
> Looking Over  A Four Leaf Clover."
>
> Hal Mooney, arranger and producer, did extensive work at Rca and
> Mercury from the 40's-60's, and was married to Kay Starr, among others.
>
> Darren!

Thanks for the info. One other interesting fact about Hal Mooney (full
name: Harold Mooney) is that he is the composer of the song "Swamp
fire", which was recorded by Martin Denny, Enoch Light and Morton Gould.

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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) George Cates and Art/Hal Mooney
Date: 29 Aug 1998 09:17:12


For more info on George Cates (of "Polynesian Percussion" fame), you can
find his biography and discography at:

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/cates.htm

To answer another question, Art and Hal Mooney are not the same person or
even related.  Hal was mainly a producer, arranger, and A&R man, working
for Mercury in the 1950s and then for Time Records in the early 1960s.  Hal
produced some excellent space age pop records, particularly his "Ballet
with a Beat," a collection of jazzed-up arrangements of classical ballet
numbers on Mercury.

Art was a small-time dance band leader who recorded a few albums for
marginal labels--worth listening to for 50 cents, but not worth going out
of your way to search for.

Brad
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Roots Reminder
Date: 29 Aug 1998 13:15:13 EDT


I sometimes like revisit sites to refresh my memory on all the things I
forgot.  Thought these items might be of interest.

"Quiet Village," 1951

Music by Les Baxter  Quiet Village" epitomizes exotica. Written by Les Baxter
for his 1951 concept album, "The Ritual of the Savage," it became a Top 40 hit
in 1959 when Martin Denny played it on his breakthrough album, "Exotica." From
that point on, no self-respecting exotica artist could pass up the chance to
record his interpretation of "Quiet Village." Denny's hit also benefited from
the popularity of all things Hawaiian which surrounded Hawaii's becoming the
50th state in 1959. Which is a little odd, in my opinion, since it's not
really the catchiest melody. I suspect it has as much to do with the aura of
the exotica suggested by the name and theme of the song as any inherent
musical quality. Recording "Quiet Village" is almost a rite of passage,
something a musician had to do to qualify as a bona fide exotica artiste.
Contrary to popular belief, there IS at least one vocal version of the song,
by Don Ho, in an unforgettable medley with "Hawaii Five-O."


"Moon of Manakoora," 1937

Words Frank Loesser
Music Alfred Newman  Having written the melody as part of the incidental music
for Douglas Fairbanks Senior's early sound version of "Robinson Crusoe,"
Alfred Newman reused it as the theme for the film, "The Hurricane." Manakoora
was tropical island on which the film took place. Jon Hall and Dorothy Lamour
played native lovers; Raymond Massey was the colonial governor who upset the
natural balance of society--the climactic hurricane, one assumes, is the
penalty for messing with nature, making this the first ecological adventure. A
perfect melody for a romantic scene on the beach, with palm trees swaying in
the background and the moon reflecting off the serene ocean. Not surprisingly,
though--that was what Newman was writing for.
(from:  The Space Age Pop Standards Page -
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/index.htm)

On a related note:  I continue to be impressed with the Cate's album
"Polynesian Percussion".  The best cut in my humble opinion is Moon of
Manakoora, which started me going thru my records and CD's to listen to the
various other versions.  The Baxter version is quite spectacular also and
(true to my Denny-esque nature) Martin Denny's version is excellent to.

I always find it interesting how in those days a dozen people would record the
same tune and the public did not view it as "copy-cat".  That is quite unlike
today.

Hope everybody is having a fun weekend.  I got the tiki torches gassed up and
am planning a "little luau" this evening.  Any need to ask what kinda music I
got planned?  i didn't think so.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hotel "Difficult-to-find" Easy compilations
Date: 29 Aug 1998 14:37:23 +0200


Chuckwrote: "There are four Hotel Easy compilations, St Tropez, London,
Rome & Paris. All are excellent examples of true easy listening and the
cuts are well chosen obscure instrumental gems. I really recommend Hotel
Easy."

    i have tried everywhere, but can't locate these,
    not even with UK mailorder companies (Esprit, Pastel...)
    anyone knows a (European) source?

    thanx!

        Johan


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Avengers movie
Date: 29 Aug 1998 18:32:40 +0100


Any readers seen this film yet?  If so,
is it as bad as the reviews say?

HP


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Avengers movie
Date: 29 Aug 1998 14:20:52 -0400


> Subject: (exotica) Avengers movie
>
> Any readers seen this film yet?  If so,
> is it as bad as the reviews say?

A friend reports that while it wasn't great, it was not nearly as bad as the
reviews claimed.

But of course, it's all subjective.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Roots Reminder
Date: 29 Aug 1998 14:36:51 -0400 (EDT)


At 01:15 PM 8/29/98 EDT, Robert wrote:
>I sometimes like revisit sites to refresh my memory on all the things I
>forgot.  Thought these items might be of interest.
>"Quiet Village," 1951
>Music by Les Baxter  Quiet Village" epitomizes exotica.
>Contrary to popular belief, there IS at least one vocal version of the song,
>by Don Ho, in an unforgettable medley with "Hawaii Five-O."

And there's another vocal version by Darla Hood (x-Little Rascals).

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 30
Date: 29 Aug 1998 17:40:13 -0400


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is 1 hour of full galactical wonder, and can be
heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada.
Comments and questions welcome.

Space Bop #13 - Loungin' Around

Freddy Martin & His Orchestra:  Bubbles In The Wine  "TV Town(Ultra
Lounge #13)"
Cocktails, anyone?

Dimitri From Paris:  Une Very Stylish Fille  "Sacre Bleu"

Esquivel:  Sentimental Journey  "Space-Age Bachelor Pad Music"
The CD that started this whole exotica obsession with us!

Marty Gold:  Caravan  "Exotic Trilogy, Vol. 2"
Because you can never have too many versions of this song!

Billy Strange:  Casino Royale  "Secret Agent File"
A little less spy and crime-jazz-like than the rest of the CD, but good
nonetheless!

Pascal Comelade:  Le Grand Pianonaniste  "L'Argot du Bruit"

Pascal Comelade:  Domisiladore  "L'Argot du Bruit"
Two fun tracks from the new Comelade CD - be warned, however, that while
it is good, it is slightly more mainstream than his others, especially
the two songs featuring PJ Harvey.

The Ventures:  Theme From "A Summer Place"  "Hawaii Five-0"
The Ventures at their mellowest.

Arthur Lyman:  Love Is Blue  "Sonic Sixties"
Lyman doing his version of this standard.

Horst Wende:  Sugarbush  "Stop Look And Listen! Vol. 3"
Not as overly accordion-like as some of his other stuff, this one's
quite good (as is the whole album, which is a Polydor Germany
compilation from the 60s)

Si Zentner:  Mr. Lucky  "TV Town (Ultra Lounge #13)"

The Clebanoff Strings:  Quiet Village  "Exotic Trilogy, Vol. 1"
Another song that you just can't have too many versions of!  The two CDs
in this trilogy are a welcome addition to any exotica collection.
The Three Suns:  Jungle Drums  "Movin' 'n' Groovin'"
A Stereo Action album that makes full use of the technology - includes a
great version of Caravan, which is also on the Exotic Trilogy.

Martin Denny:  Congo Train  "Exotica 3"
Because you can't really call it lounging around without including
Martin Denny!

Pyrolator:  Die Hangebruckenbauer  "Wunderland"
Definite Denny influences here, interpreted by Pyrolator!

Henry Mancini:  Susan  "Cocktail Mix: Soundtracks With A Twist"

Perez Prado:  My Roberta  "Big Hits By Prado"
The more I listen to this album, the more I prefer Prado's versions of
the songs to others - especially his version of Patricia!

Burt Bacharach:  Stripping Really Isn't Sexy Is It?  "Cocktail Mix:
Soundtracks With A Twist"

Al Hirt:  Tabu  "Exotic Trilogy, Vol. 2"


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Roots Reminder
Date: 29 Aug 1998 18:16:52 EDT




<< In a message dated 98-08-29 14:37:52 EDT, Lou wrote:

 << At 01:15 PM 8/29/98 EDT, Robert wrote:
  >I sometimes like revisit sites to refresh my memory on all the things I
  >forgot.  Thought these items might be of interest.
  >"Quiet Village," 1951
  >Music by Les Baxter  Quiet Village" epitomizes exotica.
  >Contrary to popular belief, there IS at least one vocal version of the
song,
  >by Don Ho, in an unforgettable medley with "Hawaii Five-O."

  And there's another vocal version by Darla Hood (x-Little Rascals).


and there is some loungy Spanish (or mabye Italian) guy who sings the intro in
his native tongue then sings Quiet Village in english.

 this can be found on the Exotic Trilogy Vol. 1.  and by the by, has anyone
reviewed Vol 2?  where can it be had???

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 29 Aug 1998 20:27:36 -0400


I rented "The Big Lebowski" the other night and I loved it.
It also had a great soundtrack.  I wouldn't buy the record but the music
really worked in the film.
In any case, there's a scene where Jeff Bridges' character visits this porn
producer played by Ben Gazzara and there's definite "exotica" playing in
the background.  In fact it was a record I own but I couldn't remember what
it was.
It was really hard to read the music credits at the end but there was a
Henry Mancini cut listed.  That might have been it.  It sounded like it
could have been a cut from his exotica/Hawaiian record "The Versatile Henry
Mancini", one of my faves but I don't know.

Anyone help?  Maybe someone who rented the film and has better eyes than me.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Avengers movie
Date: 29 Aug 1998 19:36:36 +0000


At 06:32 PM 8/29/98 +0100, Hugh wrote:
>Any readers seen this film [The Avengers] yet?  If so,
>is it as bad as the reviews say?

A friend of mine put out a "bad movie alert" to me, but it was too late.
She suggested watching episodes from the colour Diana Rigg episodes instead.

If you expect the movie to ever exceed the original Steed and Mrs. Peel,
then don't go.  While Uma Thurman is sexy in some ways, she is not the
kind of sexy that Diana Rigg played Mrs. Peel as.  I think, in general,
the movie was just a bit too cold.  I never felt the original TV series
was cold, even when cold war was a common topic!

There are many things in the movie to be thankful for: the continuance of
certain traditions (dress, music, strange villains, melding of science and
villainy, the characters, the wackiness and yet simultaneous danger of the
situations).  The movie could have been far worse.  However, it could have
been better.  If Ralph Fiennes had been a tad more humorous and easy going,
if Mother had been a bit more active and engaging, and if certain
gratuitous special effects were not added (the blowing up of certain
landmarks for no apparent reason), it would have been much more appreciated.

I don't think Sean Connery could be faulted.  In fact, if they had focused
more on his ideosyncracies, it might have been a better movie...although it
would have also been less "The Avengers."

If you can see it without thinking about the original TV series too much, it
should be a decent picture.

I'd go back to see it just for Uma's outfits.  That does not make it a good
movie, but it makes it more than the utter trash some critics make it out
to be.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program.

Byron


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) FM Weirdness
Date: 30 Aug 1998 03:50:49 EDT



In a message dated 8/24/98 3:53:37 PM, you wrote:

<<Any listers out there with fond memories of KPFA, Berkeley, during the years
that (sound/text composer) Charles Amirkhanian was MD?

YES!  after i got through my mercifully brief album-rock phase, this station
(along with KFJC) completely warped my musical tastes and made me what i am
today.

Ray Farrell's experimental/post-punk rockers on "Assassinatin' Rhythm;" home-
tapers on "No Other Radio;" phone-in jams with Negativland and friends on
"Over the Edge"

i was a guest a couple times on no other radio show in the mid '80s; a lotta
fun.  i was one of those "home-tapers" (most of whom were heavily into
exotica)


ahhh, the good old days....
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 30 Aug 1998 09:23:16 +0100


Nat wrote:
>I rented "The Big Lebowski" the other night and I loved it.
>It also had a great soundtrack.
>It was really hard to read the music credits at the end but there was a
>Henry Mancini cut listed.
I haven't seen the film, but I was in a record store and this
wonderful track was played and I asked the assistant who it
was they were playing.  It was Henry Mancini, and I believe
the title is "Lujon".  I didn't hear it, but according to CD Universe's
(glowing) review of the sountdtrack album, there's an Yma
Sumac track in the film too, called "Ataypura".

Nat/anyone, if you find out what Mancini album this track is
on, please advise!  Thanks.
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From: the curator <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Swap List
Date: 30 Aug 1998 12:07:38 +0000


Folks

After doing a couple of successful swaps with members of the list i'm keen
to carry on ... if anyone would like to see my swaplist of no longer
neededalbums and CDs please mail me privately and we'll get the ball
rolling ...

friendly

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Moon of Manakoora
Date: 30 Aug 1998 09:45:05 -0500


Robert B's posting on "The Moon of Manakoora" send me racing to my LPs,
where I discovered four versions of the song, all quite different.
Exoticats with a taste for the tiki sound might search for these records.
What other covers of "Moon" would anyone recommend? What do y'all think of
these arrangements?

Ferrante & Teicher w/ Orchestra, "Pianos in Paradise" (United Artists,
mono, 3230). A later F&T release, it's heavy on strings with bits of the
piano duo's signature flourishes and keyboard runs. Touches of steel guitar
add an exotic flavor. Undistinguished.

The Polynesians, "Beautiful Hawaii" (Crown stereo, CST 214). "Authentic"
sound with vocals for those who like Hawaiian music performed by real
Hawaiians. Mellow, slow tempoed, and lovely. Steel guitar leads with vibes
embellishments and vocals. Ross, I think I recognize Gabby Pahinui's unique
baritone here. Do you know this record? Were The Polynesians one of the
front bands of the Pahinui brothers?

Douglas Gamley and His Orchestra, from Record 3, entitled "South Sea Island
Magic", Side 6, entitled "Pacific Panorama", a '68 Readers Digest release
(stereo, RD4-67-3). Don't have the box so can't tell you the title of this
multidisk set. Instrumental with bits of Polynesian percussion and bongos.
Deeply romantic. Recommended.

50 Guitars of Tony Garrett, "50 Guitars Visit Hawaii" (Liberty/Premier
stereo, LSS 14022). The best of the foursome, exotic percussion meets Latin
tempos. Steel guitar lead shifts to the 50 Guitars sound. Slightly up tempo
and way too brief for my taste. Give me more. LP art collectors, hunt for
this record! Extravagant gatefold jacket with eyepopping hot hues on white
and a diecut (!) sunburst on the front, plus wonderful period type,
illustrations, and photos.

The Lamour film "Hurricane" also recommended as surprisingly good. Will
probably air because it's timely during North America's tropical storm
season.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 30 Aug 1998 10:58:15 EDT


Dear Nat,

In a message dated 98-08-29 20:29:43 EDT, you write:

<< In any case, there's a scene where Jeff Bridges' character visits this porn
 producer played by Ben Gazzara and there's definite "exotica" playing in
 the background. >>

and

<<It was really hard to read the music credits at the end . . . Anyone help?
Maybe someone who rented the film and has better eyes than me.>>

Well Nat, as to the former I cannot help.  I usually don't rent movies that
are about the porn industry, I just go straight to the source and rent the
porn movies.

As to the latter, come to Charleston and we'll talk.  My optician has a great
pair of Esquivel-esque glasses which I am sure can help.

Which is better?  One or Two?

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rapa Nui (the movie)
Date: 30 Aug 1998 11:41:24 -0400


"Rapa Nui" (1994) airs on TNT, Wednesday night, 11:00pm (eastern daylight
time).

Kevin Costner is a co-producer, which is a bit of a warning flag for me. Still,
I recall it being discussed on here the other year by our absent Rapa Nui /
Easter Island scholar, Tony Wilds, and I think he didn't hate it.

There's an amusing review by Roger Ebert here:
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1994/09/943200.html

Somehow, I can't imagine all of that toplessness will make it onto TNT intact.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Annotated, extended Playlist Fantastica # 59
Date: 30 Aug 1998 17:12:33 +0200


Fantastica runs on:
* Radio Scorpio, FM 106, Leuven, Belgium, each Saturday 15-16 h.
* Radio Centraal, FM 103.9, Antwerpen, Belgium,
  at irregular times in their "Night Machine".
* at even more irregular times, on KKUD "bootleg radio", San Jose, CA, USA.


                             Fantastica # 59


               title: Countdown - identification: countdown

 1. Velvet Fogg: "Telstar '69"
       o compil. "Instrumental Diamonds 3: Out Of This World"
       o CD, Sequel NEX CD 244, UK, 1992 | +++++
       o info: The best one in this series of 3! "Telstar '69" is psych
         drenched in fuzz and flanging.
 2. Jack Arel: "Strange galaxy"
       o album "Dance & Mood music de Jack Arel" (avec Jean Claude Petit &
         Pierre Dutour, compiled by the House Of Bamboo)
       o Double LP, Virgin 8 44025, UK, 1997 | ++++
       o info: Late 60's early 70's production music from Chappell. Funky
         swinging EZ. One track ("Soft winds") sounds very close to Steely
         Dan going instro! The fourth side contains his ambitious "Four
         seasons" suite, which is prog EZ at its best, very symphonic, with
         elaborate arrangements, tempo and instrumentation changes galore,
         really impressing!
 3. The Muppets: "Pigs in Space, the next generation"
       o home-recording "Muppets Tonight"
       o recorded from TV | not rated
 4. Kamagurka, Eddy Wally, Herr Seele: "In het heelal (Wally in space) -
    edit"
       o album "When giants meet!"
       o LP, Telstar, Belgium, 1990 | +++
       o info: Eddy Wally is Flanders King of the schlager, performing even
         in China! Kamagurka is one of the most cynic cartoonists of
         Belgium. They combined forces in a Star Trek spoof series on TV.
         The forthcoming LP was issued by Telstar, which is a Dutch label
         devoted to the high art of schlager music. It was also deleted
         very quickly, once Mister Wally realised what a fool he made out
         of himself.
 5. Attileo Mineo: "Welcome to tomorrow"
       o album "Man In Space With Sounds!"
       o CD, Subliminal Sounds SUBXMCD-604, Sweden, 1997 + USA, 1998 |
         +++++
       o info: Plenty of futuristic music has been recorded over the past
         decades - especially on the dawning of the space age - but how
         much of it is STILL futuristic? This concept album is, and think
         of it: it was recorded way back in the early 1950's, that's more
         than 40 years ago! This is the music that was used at the Seattle
         World's Fair of 1962. Its combination of moody string
         orchestrations, theatre organ (?) and weird out-of-this-world
         electronics is strikingly dark, spooky, mysterious and industrial,
         not exactly the kind of stuff you'd expect to hear at a popular
         fair... some people at that time might have thought of it as avant
         gardistic noise - or at least noisy - music ... It's also slightly
         in contrast with the bright future that was portrayed by the
         fair's attractions and described by the narrator (the CD contains
         the 2 complete different LP versions that were issued in 1962: one
         with, and another without the spoken comments; there's also a
         limited issue LP reissue on the Spannish Wah-Wah label, with
         better graphics and more informative liner notes - contact:
         [e-mail]). Mastered from an original more or less
         mint LP copy, which is still far better than nothing, since this
         is an extremely rare LP! If you liked Russ Garcia's "Fantastica"
         album, then you defenitely should buy this CD!
 6. Russ Garcia: "Monsters of Jupiter"
       o album "Fantastica - Music From Outer Space"
       o CD, Toshiba-EMI TOCP-8325, Japan, 1994 or 1996 | +++++
       o info: Classic outer space electronics exotica reissued on CD.
 7. Ken Nordine: "Outer space"
       o album "Son of Word Jazz"
       o LP, Mono Dot DLP3096, USA | +++++
       o info: "Outer space" combines the genius of Nordine's Words with
         cool electronic noises in a conversation between a man and a
         Martian.
 8. Leonard Nimoy: "Twinkle twinkle little earth"
       o album "Mr Spock presents music from outer space"
       o LP, Rediffusion stereo ZS 156, UK issue, 1973 | +++++
       o info: Combination of groovy (instromental) versions of the "Star
         Trek" theme, "Music to watch SPACE girls by", and "Mission
         impossible"... with more embarrassing narrative material, like
         "Twinkle twinkle little earth". Exists on CD, see details in my
         "eXotica Releases Overview".
 9. Spike Jones, featuring George Rock: "Captain of the spaceship"
       o single "Captain of the spaceship"
       o cassette copy of 7", RCA Little Nipper Series WY-472, USA, 1953 |
         ++++
       o info: Georgie Rock flies around in his spaceship, and blasts space
         pirates out of this universe with his atomic guns. Very rare
         single, glad to have a cassette copy!
10. The Twisters: "Count down intro"
       o compil. "The Madness Invasion Volume 3"
       o LP, GMG Venus in Furs, France, 1988 | +++
       o info: Wild and primitive 50's and 60's rock 'n roll.
11. Enoch Light: "Fly me to the moon"
       o album "Let's dance the bossa nova"
       o CDR copy of LP, Command RS 851-SD, USA | +++
       o info: Not as good as "Big Band Bossa Nova", but it still has its
         nice moments.
12. The Jay-Hawks: "The creature (from outer space)"
       o compil. "The Madness Invasion Volume 3"
       o see above mention of this record for more details
13. Don Miller: "Missile monkey"
       o compil. "Bent, batty and 'bnoxious!"
       o LP, Torture 000-NO! (bootleg), USA, 198? | +++++
       o info: Highly recommended, if you like stupid "Wavy Gravy" stuff. I
         actually think this is far better than "Wavy Gravy", much more
         "demented".
14. Radio theme: "X minus one"
       o compil. "Themes like old times" (90 genuine original program
         openings from the most famous radio shows...)
       o CD, Radio Yesteryear, USA, 1990 | +++++
       o info: highly recommended! There's a lot of use of a Theatre organ
         on these themes compilation, many themes from mystery and
         adventure series. Contact: <[e-mail]>
15. Radio play: "Lost in time - montage"
       o home-recording "The Underground Culture Vulture"
       o cassette | not rated
16. Vincent Price + Bob Crewe: "Witchcraft, Magic & Barbarella MIX"
       o album "Witchcraft & Magic; An Adventure In Demonology" +
         "Barbarella"
       o Double LP, Capitol SWBB-342, USA + CDR, home recorded bootleg,
         USA, 1998
       o info: "Witchcraft & Magic" is four sides of mysterious blabla
         about witches and their magic powers. About 5 interventions by
         hilarious cliche witches casting their spells while bent over
         their boiling "soup". A bit of electronics thrown in here and
         there for the spooky effect.
17. Dick Hyman & Mary Mayo: "Stella by starlight"
       o album "Moon gas"
       o CDR copy of LP, MGM E/SE 4110, USA, 196? | +++++
       o info: Sampled by Tipsy. There are some truely strange and outer
         space organ sounds happening here!
18. Uri Geller + Sound Effects: "Velvet galaxy vibrations MIX"
       o album "Uri Geller"
       o LP, Polydor 2371 510 | ++++
       o info: Just like Nimoy's "Mr Spock" LP, this one combines camp and
         cool.
19. The Tornados: "Earthy"
       o album "The EP collection"
       o CD, See For Miles 445, UK, 1996 + USA, 1997 | ++++
       o Review:
         "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/A/Tornadosepcollection.htm"
       o info: Corrected track list included in the review!
20. L. Ron Hubbard: "The Drone"
       o album "Space jazz" (the soundtrack of the book "Battlefield
         Earth")
       o LP, Applause 9000, USA, 1982 | +++
       o info: Pompous, ridiculous, so-called futuristic music, all
         performed on the Fairlight Computer Musical Instrument. Only 1
         track is jazzy, by the way.
21. Jim Samuels: "Star Trek theme"
       o compil. "Star Trek comedy"
       o LP, Vince Emery Productions, USA, 198? | +
22. Jimmy Haskel: "Starlight"
       o album "Countdown"
       o CDR copy of LP, Imperial, USA | +++++
       o info: Electronic space rock 'n roll, quite rare, and
     beautiful/funny/way out there! . This same CDr
         (sold by Jack D.) also contains "Barbarella"...
23. Buddy Morrow, featuring President Kennedy and astro-talk: "Men into
    space MIX"
       o album "Double Impact"
       o LP, RCA Victor LSP-2180stereo, USA, 1960 | ++++
       o info: Excellent and big arrangements of 1959 and 1960 detective,
         SF, western, and adventure TV themes. With: Men into space;
         Hawaiian eye; Staccato's theme; The Deputy; Riverboat theme;
         Bourbon Street Beat; Bonanza; Twilight zone; San Francisco Blues;
         The untouchables; Markham Theme; International detective.
24. Angelo F. Lavagnino: "Space devils"
       o compil. "Erotica Italia"
       o CD, BMG/Arista 74321541932/Bistro LC 3484, UK, 1998 | ++++
       o info: PROS: varied, 20 good to excellent tracks, lots of wordless
         vocals, 2 sitar tracks. CONS: no liner notes, no mentioning of the
         featured original soundtrack titles... boo!

    album ratings:

         +++++outstanding, ++++very good, +++good, ++not bad, +so-so, -yuk

        the radio pages + "eXotica Releases Overview" on my web site:
        <http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/>


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 30 Aug 1998 13:15:36 -0400


At 09:23 AM 30/08/98 +0100, Hugh Petfield wrote:

>I haven't seen the film, but I was in a record store and this
>wonderful track was played and I asked the assistant who it
>was they were playing.  It was Henry Mancini, and I believe
>the title is "Lujon".
>Nat/anyone, if you find out what Mancini album this track is
>on, please advise!  Thanks.

Well that makes sense since it sounded so familiar when I heard it in the
movie and I've put that track on at least a dozen tapes.

It's kind of funny to me how often I hear "exotica" tracks that I know I
own and how seldom I can say anything but "Oh I have this.  This is...
damn, what is this?"

If the track is "Lujon", then I'm going to guess that it's the version that
I have on the LP "Mr.Lucky Goes Latin".

I don't have the "non-Latin" Mr.Lucky LP which - if it exists - probably
also has a  track by that name but the version in the movie was way too
familiar for me to think it was a different version than the one I own.

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From: "Andrew Grant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 30 Aug 1998 13:25:48 -0400


The Mancini track on the Big Lebowski soundtrack is called 'Lujon'.  I don't
think it's from a film score originally -- just a track Mancini wrote.  I
bought the Lebowski soundtrack for that track alone, though the rest of the
CD is really quite wonderful as well.  Mancini, Meredith Monk, Yma Sumac,
Moondog, Piero Piccioni, et al.

I was driven crazy when I saw that scene because that Mancini track is used
on Dmitri from Paris' album 'Sacre Francais', but I never knew what it was
as the sample isn't given credit.  (Note:  It's only on the non-US version
of the CD.)  Dmitri loops the theme, puts a beat behind it, while a whispery
female voice echoes 'Paris, paris, paris....'.  Wonderful stuff...best track
of his, IMO.  Too bad it was left off the US release.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 30 Aug 1998 10:49:34 -0000


>I haven't seen the film, but I was in a record store and this
>wonderful track was played and I asked the assistant who it
>was they were playing.  It was Henry Mancini, and I believe
>the title is "Lujon".  I didn't hear it, but according to CD Universe's

If I remember, the version in the movie was from "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin",
which is a  great album!

-Brian



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From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thrift shop finds
Date: 30 Aug 1998 14:27:42 -0400


G'day all,

What better way to spend a late Sunday morning than leafing through the
records at the local Salvation Army store. Nothing of interest in the lp
racks (someone donated their entire Rush & Cheap Trick collections).
Determined not to leave empty handed, I decided to brave the heaps of 45s.
I don't usually look in that section as the sight of hundreds of unsorted
singles with no sleeves stacked like so many dirty pancakes is off-putting
to say the least.

Glad I looked tho', here's what I found...

Paul Whitman conducts Rhapsody 21 (World Fair Records picture disc).
Original music by Toni Mineo & Orchestrated by Attilio Mineo. Incredibly
overblown orchestral music that sounds like a soundtrack to some 50's
melodrama. Sheesh.

The Big Bay Band: Jungle Drums/Strike up the Band (Omega Disk Records).
This sounds like a Swing orchestra cashing in on the exotica craze. Drums
up front with the full big band backing. Good, if a bit tame.

& best of all...

The Honeycombs: Have I the Right/Please Don't Pretend Again (Interphon
Records). Finally, I actually have a Joe Meek production on vinyl! "Have I
the Right" is a terrifically catchy tune & features the famous
Meek-foot-stomping beat! (This record used to belong to Margeret Hayes, I
know 'cause she wrote her name on the label in that big loopy printing
style).

Allan

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Need lp covers
Date: 30 Aug 1998 12:46:41 PDT




If any has a covers for Schifrin's Mission Impossible ST or Earle
Hagen's I Spy they would like to sell, I would be happy to buy them. I
picked these up at a yard sale Sunday. 'Seems there had been a basement
flooding (Why do so many people keep their records in basements, and on
the basement floor at that? I know way too many people who have had
their entire lp collection irrigated in this manner). The vinyl is
perfect, but had to Jaws-of-Lifed out of their mold-lush spitball
casings. Had to toss them for fear of turning my home into a hot zone.

Help,

Ben

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Moon of Manakoora
Date: 30 Aug 1998 18:01:57 -0400


>50 Guitars of Tony Garrett, "50 Guitars Visit Hawaii" (Liberty/Premier

Ah, "Moon of Manakoora"!

Yes, I liked the 50 Guitars' version too--though the previous owner of my
copy had written "BAD" across the label in angry red marker. (That's enough
to make you curious about any record!)

But my current fave is Werner Mueller's version, from _Hawaiian Swing_
(London). Surf sounds, outer-spacey organ blips--plus these massively
overblown, reverb-drenched strings. It's quite psychedelic.

_The Versatile Henry Mancini_ (Liberty) has a wonderfully spare, mysterious
version too. . .

But no song named "Lujon" I'm afraid. I saw _Lebowski_ a few months back,
and do recall recognizing some piece of background music, but it's slipped
away from me now. . . (The ever-useful _Sight and Sound_ notes that
Esquivel's "Mucha Muchacha" was also in the movie.)

Lunarly,

 --Ross

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From: "Steven Peterson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moon of Manakoora
Date: 30 Aug 1998 18:20:56 -0500


On the Ventures cd, " Surfing ",  there's wonderful cut, " Moon over
Manakoora".
Could this be the same as  " Moon of Manakoora " ?

Steve


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Subject: Re: (exotica) So which CD Player do you like?
Date: 30 Aug 1998 15:50:29 +0000


At 10:44 PM 8/28/98 -0400, Mark Reed wrote:
>I downloaded a shareware version of CATraxx.  It works great as an inventory
>tool. On the demo of CATraxx I tried the feature which imports data from
cddb.  >In a matter of seconds the full track data on a cd is loaded.  I do
have some >obscure cds it couldn't identify, though.

Thank you for the info on this.  I had no idea there was a cddb until it was
brought up on this list.  In two hours I created a database on my computer
of the complete track info from 55 cds.  I have many more cds to go, however.

It does well on the major labels, but not for imports or small independent
labels.  The program is quite feature filled and seems flawless.  I hope I
will eventually be able to get it to sort by tracks across an entire
collection, but I am not sure it is set up for that.

Also, it is debatable whether it will work for classical music (which is
much different about the fields you need to sort on).

However, it sure does a lot for a little...and I LOVE the ability to grab
track information for at least 90 percent of my cds.

Byron

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Subject: (exotica) books
Date: 30 Aug 1998 15:50:39 +0000


Thanks to the list for recommending the books I just picked up:

Elevator Music  by Joseph Lanza  pb Picador USA
MusicHound Lounge ed. Steve Knopper pb Visable Ink Press

Also, I found a book you also might be interested in:

SPIN underground USA  ed. Duncan Bock  pb Vintage



The great thing about Knopper's book was that I also got a sampler
of the Ultra Lounge samplers for vol. 13-18, which included a much needed
cut from Jack Costanzo.  When you consider that most CDs run $15 or so (and
that a sampler of samplers is simply just another sampler), the cost of
the information provided by the book only $10...well worth it.

I don't think it is the ideal book.  In fact, I don't think there is an ideal
book around (does this mean it's up to me?!).  For one thing Knopper only
concerns himself with current CDs: I want complete discographies.  He also
covers artists I don't consider appropropriate and then skips over others I
would consider essential...primarily based on their available CDs.  Still,
he does do a good job with the many musicians he does cover.

Lanza's book does great detail on his extended essay, but the focus is too
narrow for my interests.  The discography is not comprehensive, but at
least it covers some representative LPs (not necessarilly on CD).

By the way, I did *NOT* buy that Lexicon book mentioned before.  It was
pitiful.  Forget that he stole most of the material without permission, it
is inconsistant and badly organized.  Maybe when I see it on a remainder
stack for
a buck I will consider it.

I still find the websites hosted by many of the list members and the
magazines written or edited by list members much more valuable than any of
these books!

As far as Bock's effort, I thought listmembers might be interested in it
because of the oft-asked "Where do I find tiki bars in this city?"   Twenty
metro areas are covered in the US.  While each area's entry is written by a
different person, the general direction is consistant.  Most cities have a
paragraph on "favorite tiki bar" and "favorite thrift store."  The book is
a good start for exploring an unknown metro area...better for me than
Fodor's or some of the more well known travel books anyway.

As for other books (which I already own), I'd recommend the two RE-search
paperbound books and one that was the companion book to the Time-Life
record series "As You Remember Them": The Men and The Music.

Byron




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Subject: [Fwd: (exotica) Arthur Lyman's "Love for Sale"]
Date: 30 Aug 1998 13:30:13 -0400


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Perhaps not quite a thrift store find but came across a sealed copy in
PERFECT condition of Arthur Lyman's "Love for Sale" LP (First American
Records Piccadilly PIC 3543) from 1980 w/

1. Love Song from "Mutiny on the Bounty"
2. I Wish You Love
3. Love for Sale
4. Pagan Love Song
5. Love
6. Love Is A Many Splendored Thing
7. Love Dance
8. Secret Love
9. To You My Love
10. Sentimental Journey
11. When I Fall In Love
12. It's So Right To Love

$15 including 1st class postage insured w/in the U.S. ($25 airmail
registered outside the U.S.) to first offer.

Please confirm by private e-mail:  <[e-mail]>


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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Moon of Manakoora
Date: 30 Aug 1998 21:37:40 EDT


<< What other covers of "Moon" would anyone recommend? >>

Fred Lowery - "Walking Along Kicking The Leaves"
Blind, whistling virtuoso does a beautiful version backed by hawaiian guitar.

Burl Ives - "On The Beach At Waikiki"
Sing along with Burl.  Mix in some duck, bird and frog sounds for some real
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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Rapa Nui (the movie)
Date: 30 Aug 1998 23:00:55 -0500


>"Rapa Nui" (1994) airs on TNT, Wednesday night, 11:00pm (eastern daylight
>time).

m.ace, tape this one. It ranks with "Showgirls" and "The Conqueror" (John
Wayne as Ghengis Khan and Susan Hayward doing an unforgettable Dance of the
Sword) as one of the most inadvertently hilarious movies ever made.

Rapa Nui's best line DOES belong to the shaman, as Ebert notes: Something
like, "Don't bother me, I'm too busy now. I've got chicken entrails to
read." Unfortunately, I was the only person who laughed when the film
screened in Austin.

My partner was on Easter Island for a month shortly before the RN film crew
showed up. Apparently Hollywood left its mark, wrecking archeological
sites, moving the moai (the stone heads), causing chaos, and introducing
unprecedented levels of vice and ruin to the Chilean backwater. To
commemorate his visit, I bought Jim a copy of the screenplay 'profusely
illustrated' with stills from the movie. He graciously refused the present.


O ye Exoticats, in exchange for postage costs, I will GIVE this book, this
prize beyond measure, to the first person who asks for it. Hell, I'll
sweeten the deal by shipping the book with some Texas-shaped pasta. Better
move fast....and know I'll need time to unearth the book from my "sell
these" stash.

Generously yours,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 31 Aug 1998 00:25:51 EDT


If you're talking about the scene when Jeff Bridges is out at the pool,
checking out the girl painting her toes, the song that's in the background is
a cut version of ESQUIVEL's MUCHA MUCHACH from Latin-Esque LP (or the Space
age cd)


The Mancini track is from MR. LUCKY GOES LATIN....track two on side one...


Jayson


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Moon of Manakoora
Date: 31 Aug 1998 04:12:37 EDT


Les Paul & Mary Ford have a really gorgeous version.
the Mancini one seems really spooky &weird (i dig it).
-djg


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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 31 Aug 1998 09:36:23 -0400


Re:  The Big Lebowski

I've not seen the movie, but heard that the s/t was cool, and had a look.

I thought that the mancini cut was 'megeve' from Charade, but Hugh
suggested 'Lujon', and I think he is right.

'Lujon', a lush, atmospheric instrumental version of 'slow hot wind', can
be found on the rca albums 'the best of mancini' and 'mr lucky goes
latin'.

N.b. It is also the track sampled for the mystery final track on the
European issue of the Dmitri from Paris album

regards
Jonny

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Subject: Re: (exotica) So which CD Player do you like?
Date: 31 Aug 1998 10:36:40 EDT


I think the cddb is all based on what "subscribers" send in.  I don't think
the organizers of the site actually enter the information.  There is a way
that you can type in the information on a CD then forward that to cddb.  I
would assume that the big record companies are aware of the site and have
someone send in the "correct" information when new CD's are released.

Robert

In a message dated 98-08-30 19:43:55 EDT, Byron wrote:

<< Thank you for the info on this.  I had no idea there was a cddb until it
was
 brought up on this list.  In two hours I created a database on my computer
 of the complete track info from 55 cds.  I have many more cds to go, however.

 It does well on the major labels, but not for imports or small independent
 labels.  The program is quite feature filled and seems flawless.  I hope I
 will eventually be able to get it to sort by tracks across an entire
 collection, but I am not sure it is set up for that.

 Also, it is debatable whether it will work for classical music (which is
 much different about the fields you need to sort on).

 However, it sure does a lot for a little...and I LOVE the ability to grab
 track information for at least 90 percent of my cds.

 Byron

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Moon of Manakoora
Date: 31 Aug 1998 11:09:11 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-31 04:21:49 EDT, you write:

<< Les Paul & Mary Ford have a really gorgeous version. >>

Really Dave!!!  Wow.  Where in the hell can one find that one?

Robert


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From: dan hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 31 Aug 1998 17:39:08 +0100


did i also catch a track from 'beat at cinecitta vol.1' in the movie as
well - where bridges goes to visit the porn producer later on (just before
he is drugged)? last track of side one??? (and best track on the album) ....

cheers,
dan

ps. can no-one help me on my 'ipcress file' query posted a couple of days ago?


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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Moon of Manakoora
Date: 31 Aug 1998 12:38:33 -0500


Moon over Manakoora is on my list of frequently occuring songs on which I
write down whenever I get a new version.

For Moon over Manakoora I have the following:

Stanley Black - Exotic Percussion
The Surfmen - Hawaii
The Ventures - 1st
Earl Grant - Tradewinds
Billy Vaughn - Sukiyaki
Werner Muller - Hawiian Spring
Martin Denny - 20 Hawaiian Hits/ Exotica III
Exotica 1970
George Cates - Polynesian...
Chet Atkins - My Favorite Guitar
Buddy Cole - Organ Moods in Hi Fi
Roy Smeck - Adventures in Paradise
Mauna Loa Islanders
The Outriggers - Captivation
Ferrante & Teicher - Paradise
Mancini - Versitile
Billy Mure - Supersonic v.2
50 guitars visit Hawaii


One of the reasons that I'm mentioning this is because I'll be doing a
special monthly feature on my radio program where I'll do a show entirely
of many versions of the same song.
I figure I have at least a dozen songs that I can fill an hour and a half
with.
I've gotten good responses when I did a "Caravan"  and a "More" show.

Frank

My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's
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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Big Lebowski
Date: 31 Aug 1998 11:37:13 +0000


> did i also catch a track from 'beat at cinecitta vol.1' in the movie as
> well - where bridges goes to visit the porn producer later on (just before
> he is drugged)? last track of side one??? (and best track on the album) ....

If memory serves, this is "Traffic Boom" by Piero Piccioni.  At
least, I recall this being on the Lebowski soundtrack CD.



Darrell Brogdon
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
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From: [e-mail] (Hess Jeffery)
Subject: (exotica) HBO Rat Pack Movie
Date: 31 Aug 1998 13:07:09 -0500


Has anyone seen it?  I caught part of it last night, but not enough to
make a sound observation.  I would love hear what other exoticats think.


Dooby dooby doo,
Jeff

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) HBO Rat Pack Movie
Date: 31 Aug 1998 16:42:08 -0400


At 1:07 PM -0500 8/31/98, Hess Jeffery wrote:
>Has anyone seen it?  I caught part of it last night, but not enough to
>make a sound observation.  I would love hear what other exoticats think.

It was pretty bad. It was just what one would expect from a made-for-tv
movie : historical inaccuracies and bad melodrama mixed with wooden
dialogue, with rumor and innuendo being presented as fact. The sound was
attrocious - the nightclub scenes all had a horrendous digital slap back
echo on the dialogue which made it hard to understand what was being said
(I had to switch the signal to mono, and it still sucked). The music was
all mixed the same way. It all sounded so fake and just so
bad............so......digital. The actors who played Sinatra, Martin and
Davis weren't bad as impressionists, considering what they had to work
with. Basically, the plot dealt with the Rat Pack and the Kennedys, and how
Sinatra got JFK elected. The actors who played the Kennedy brothers had me
climbing the wall with their accents.

The only cool thing was the very beginning  - a needle being placed on a
Capitol album - and the very end - the needle lifting up at the end of the
record. Actually, the set design and costumes were good, too.

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Subject: (exotica) RealAudio Feeds and The Moon of Manakoora
Date: 31 Aug 1998 17:05:55 EDT


In a message dated 98-08-31 12:40:30 EDT, Frank writes:

<< Moon over Manakoora is on my list of frequently occuring songs on which I
 write down whenever I get a new version.

 For Moon over Manakoora I have the following:

 Stanley Black - Exotic Percussion
 The Surfmen - Hawaii
 The Ventures - 1st
 Earl Grant - Tradewinds
 Billy Vaughn - Sukiyaki
 Werner Muller - Hawiian Spring
 Martin Denny - 20 Hawaiian Hits/ Exotica III
 Exotica 1970
 George Cates - Polynesian...
 Chet Atkins - My Favorite Guitar
 Buddy Cole - Organ Moods in Hi Fi
 Roy Smeck - Adventures in Paradise
 Mauna Loa Islanders
 The Outriggers - Captivation
 Ferrante & Teicher - Paradise
 Mancini - Versitile
 Billy Mure - Supersonic v.2
 50 guitars visit Hawaii
 One of the reasons that I'm mentioning this is because I'll be doing a
 special monthly feature on my radio program where I'll do a show entirely
 of many versions of the same song.
 I figure I have at least a dozen songs that I can fill an hour and a half
 with.
 I've gotten good responses when I did a "Caravan"  and a "More" show.>>



Sounds fantastic Frank.

Any chance of getting a RealAudio feed going on your show like Darrell Brogdon
has for the Retro Cocktail Hour at KANU?

God, I know it is alot to ask but I JUST LOVE the KANU feed over my computer.
I actually wired my computer speaker feed into my office sound system and I
broadcast Darrell's show in my office on Friday mornings !!!!!!

Anyway, I have no idea what is involved with these RealAudio feeds.  Just food
for thought.

Robert


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From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" for September 2, 1998
Date: 31 Aug 1998 17:28:18 -0400


Mondo Bongos can be heard every Wednesday between 9 - 11 am on CFRU 93.3 fm
in Guelph, Ontario

Elliot Fisher: Dr. No's Fantasy "Bongoland"
- Ultra-Lounge Vol 17

Brother Jack McDuff: Hot Barbeque "Martini Madness"

Jimmy Smith: The Cat "The Cat"
- arranged & conducted by Lalo Schifrin.

The James Taylor Quartet: Mission Impossible "Mission Impossible"

Daniel Salinas: Straussmania "Blaxploitation"
- double cd set of "soul, jazz & funk from the inner city". UK import
released by Global television. There are at least two other double sets in
this series.

The Herbaliser: Ginger Jumps the Fence [live] "Wall Crawling Giant Insect
Breaks ep"
- new release on the Ninja Tune label. Acid jazz

Isaac Hayes: Theme from Shaft "Blaxploitaion"

I Pulsar: Cat Theme "Strobiscopica"
- production library music. similar to the Beat at Cinecitta sets

Jerry Van Rooyen: The Great Bank Robbery "At 250 Miles per Hour"
Gert Wilden & Orchestra: Rolf Torring "I Told You Not to Cry"
- two releases on the Crippled Dick label

Billy Strange: Run Spy Run "Secret Agent File"
Combustible Edison: Short Double Latte "Schizophonic!"

Fink: Independent Introduction "Ninja Cuts: Funkungfusion"
- Fink takes easy listening samples & overlays them with a conversation
between two truckers talking over a CB radio. Very odd

Claude Denjean: Kiss This "The Hascisch Party!"
- from one of the "now sound" compilations released as part the Mood Mosaic
series. A great cd featuring plenty of tacky sitar tracks

The Laurie Johnson Orchestra: The Shake "The Easy Project"

C.A. Quintet: Blow to My Soul "Endless Jouney"
- vintage pop psychedelia. from the double cd set

The Honeycombs: Colour Slide "The Joe Meek Story: The Pye Years"
- a song about obsessive behaviour

Savage Rose: A Girl I knew "Unknown Legends of Rock 'n' Roll"
- This is from the bonus cd that is packaged with Richie Unterberger's
excellent book. Of particular interest to the list might be the articles on
Lee Hazlewood & Francois Hardy.

Klaus Doldinger: Sitar Beat "The Hascisch Party!"
Combustible Edison: Solid State "Schizophonic!"
Mr Scruff: Mouse at Organ "Cup of Tea Records - Another Compilation"
Air: La Femme D'Argent "Moon Safari"
The Gentle People: Travel Bug "Soundtracks for Living"

Silver Apples: Ruby "Contact"
- Good news! Danny Taylor has been found (& in possession of unreleased
sessions)! Read all about it at http://www.silverapples.com/

Monk & Canatella: Chelsea Smile "Care in the Community"

Sukia: Barry Super Macho (Dust Bros remix) "Gary Super Macho ep"
- this remix turns into a hilarious Barry White tribute

Future Sound of London: Far Out Son of a Lung "This is Trip Hop"

Dj Spooky: Grapheme "Songs of a Dead Dreamer"
- New York illbient. I love all the "outer space" sounds

Massive Attack: Inertia Creeps "Mezzanine"
- nothing like ending the show on an up note.

Thanks for reading

Allan












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Subject: Re: (exotica) Moon of Manakoora
Date: 31 Aug 1998 20:28:40 EDT



In a message dated 8/31/98 3:13:45 PM, you wrote:

<<<< Les Paul & Mary Ford have a really gorgeous version. >>

Really Dave!!!  Wow.  Where in the hell can one find that one?

It's on Les & Mary's "the New Sound vol.2" on Capitol, from 1951.  It was
reissued on vinyl at one point, but I can't tell you if it's on cd.
-enjoy!
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Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy"  8/25/98
Date: 31 Aug 1998 21:31:01 EDT


"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am
-----Billy Taylor Orchestra-David Frost Theme-----
Nelson Riddle-Witchcraft-LP Love Is A Game Of poker
Warren Barker-Pete Kelly's Blues-LP TV Guide Top TV Themes
Oliver Nelson-The Sound Machine-CD Mood Mosaic-Y Per Sound
Manfred Hubler-We Don't Care-CD Vampyros Lesbos
Laurie Johnson Orchestra-Avengers' Theme-Tape From Holland
Edmund Ros Orchestra-Hair-LP Hair Goes Latin
Hal Blaine-Love-In-CD Psychedelic Percussion
Ferrante & Teicher-Oh! Calcutta-LP Getting Together
Barbara Acklin-I'll Bake Me A Man-45 on Brunswick
-Richard Hayman-Girl From Ipanema-CD Easy Rhythms
-Stan Getz/Astrud Gilberto-quiet Nights-LP Getz Au Go-Go
-Cal Tjader-I Say A Little Prayer-CD Tjader Sounds Bacharach
-Alan Tew Latin Sound-Trouble Shooter-Tape From Holland
-Les Baxter-Boomada-CD Swing For A Crime
-David Amram-Harold's Way-CD Crime Jazz Vol 1 Rhino
-George Duning-Out Of Nowhere-LP OST World Of Suzy Wong
-Phil Moore-Batucada-CD Mood Mosaic
Burt Bacharach-Wives & Lovers-CD BB Plays His Hits
LeRoy Holmes-Shoo-Shoo Baby-LP OST The Devil's Brigade
Xavier Cugat-Music To Watch Girls By-LP Today!
Fantastic Plastic Machine-Samba De Minha Namo Tadinho 3003
Auratones-Hoop-a-loo-La-Tape From Holland
Piero Umiliani-La Signora Cameriera-CD OST Sweden H & H
Peter Nero-Soulful Strut-LP I've Gotta Be Me (looks arrogant)
Association-Goodbye Columbus-LP OST Goodbye Columbus
Herb Alpert & TJB-The Happening-45
-Luis Bacalov-Paranagua-CD Easy Tempo 4
-Neil Richardson-Rio Magic-Music For TV Dinners 6T's Scamp
-Warren Kime Orch.-So What's New?-LP Explosive Brass Impct
-Edda Dell'Orso-Revival-OST Not Found (thanks Mutsumi)
-Pizzicato 5-Fortune Cookie-CD The Sound Of Music
-Buddy Morrow Orchestra-This Is The Naked City-LP Impact!
-Henry Mancini-Raindrops In Rio-CD Martinis With Mancini
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) HBO Rat Pack Movie
Date: 31 Aug 1998 22:30:14 -0400


My reaction wasn't quite as negative as Br. Cleve's but I wouldn't disagree
with anything he said. It's basically your usual slightly surreal (not by
intent) Hollywood Wax Museum pageant. Kind of clunky, but lacking in the excess
goofiness or luridness that would make it memorable (well, maybe Sammy's
fantasy "tap dance attack on the KKK" qualifies). On the whole, very
freeze-dried. My tastes are warped enough that I found it weakly amusing. Once.
"The colors were pretty." (very old, private post-movie joke)

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From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Alshire LP's
Date: 31 Aug 1998 22:47:30 -0700


I picked up an unspectacular (but amusing) album, "Beer Drinkin' Sing
Alongs!!" (no artist mentioned, Alshire S-5228), at a thrift today.  On the
back, it shows the covers for some other Alshire albums that look interesting:

1.) The California Poppy Pickers: Sounds of '69 (Alshire S-5152).
   Why don't we do it in the road, Bun buster, Cherry pie, Happy organ, etc.

2.) The California Poppy Pickers: Hair/Aquarius (Alshire S-5153).
   Yellow submarine, Back in the USSR, Oh happy day, Isrealites, etc.

3.) The California Poppy Pickers: Today's Chart Busters (Alshire S-5163).
   Love can make you happy, Poppy's to be picked, Blues for Berkley street
        people, Ballad of John and Yoko, etc.

4.)  John Bunyan's Progressive Pilgrims: Apricot Brandy and Albatross
   (Alshire S-5154).   Sabre dance, Spaced out, Hot shot, etc. - the album
is          subtitled "The sound that sent the Pilgrim's on a trip."

Anyone heard these?  The covers look very cool and psychedelic.  I want them!

Dave


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