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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Ray Charles Singers
Date: 01 Jun 1998 05:04:15


While we're discussing the Ray Charles Singers, I will confess to having
listened to more of their albums than I would recommend anyone ever do
again, all in search of the few killer tracks I knew had to be there.

The "Hawaiian War Chant" mentioned earlier appeared originally on "Paradise
Islands:  Songs of Hawaii," Command RS 845SD.  Also worth picking up (for
$3 or less, that is) for "Get a Musical Log" and "The Cocoanut Wireless,"
both exoticatrocious (to steal a term from Tony Wilds) pastiches.

THE BEST--I kid you not--cover of "Music to Watch Girls By" is on their "A
Special Something," Command RS 914 SD.  Easy to spot by its metallic silver
cover.

And I'm still searching for the album that includes their cover of "Canto
de Ossanha," which includes new English lyrics and title:  "Let Go."  Has
to be heard to be believed, as male voices intone, "Society tells you,
'Hold back!'" while the female voices urge, "Let go!"  A remarkable period
piece from the sexual revolution.

Virtually everything else I've heard--including the reissued-in-CD "Songs
for Latin Lovers," is fairly bland and unexceptional.  Unless you are
planning a "Silent Majority" theme party (pass the ketchup and cottage
cheese).

Brad Bigelow
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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) John Keating - Temptation
Date: 01 Jun 1998 08:40:09 -0400


>The John Keating Orchestra and Singers (okay, look, I'm new at this, all
right?
>It LOOKED good...): Temptation (LondonSP 44019)

I revisited this recently and enjoyed it more.  In particular, 'Love for
sale' is excellent once you get past the dramatic opening.

Jonny

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Issue of C&SM!
Date: 01 Jun 1998 12:22:59 -0500


Hi Lou--

Here's the latest press release for the new issue -just out!
If you could please post it to the "Exotica" newslist, I'd really appreciate
it!

-Dana
C&SM Mag
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Issue #9 of Cool And Strange Music! Magazine is here!!

It's another 48 pages, beautifully offset-printed, with a cool color cover,
lots of high-quality photos, tons of new wacky and weird CD reviews and it's
more fun than ever!

Featuring articles on JONATHAN AND DARLENE (with an exclusive interview with
Jo "Darlene" Stafford,) and presenting several articles on the career of LES
BAXTER (including remembrances by some of his closest musical friends.) We'll
take quick tour of the best used record stores and thrift shops in SAN DIEGO'S
COOLEST RECORD STORES. Due to popular demand of our discerning readers, we
present an in-depth article on THE BONZO DOG BAND, one of the most innovative,
insanely clever rock bands of the '60s. We're honored to feature an exclusive
interview with key Bonzo member (and later head-Rutle) NEIL INNES. Finally, we
talk to HENRY PHILLIPS, one of the funniest (and most twisted) new singer-
songwriters we've ever heard! You'll also find lots of wacky, new CD reviews,
and loads more!! Hide our centerfold from the kids! It features some of the
raciest NAKED LADY LP COVERS that you've probably never seen! Altogether, it's
48 pages of musical mayhem and madness!

We first feature an exclusive interview with the legendary, Jo Stafford who
fills us in on the bizarre records that she and hubby Paul Weston recorded
under the names "JONATHAN AND DARLENE." J&D's music was INTENTIONALLY bad,
with messed-up measures, missing beats, and a consistently off-key soprano
vocalist! It was all a huge hoax by these talented, former Tommy Dorsey
musicians, who inadvertently actually won a Grammy Award for Best Comedy Album
of the Year for their first record as Jonathan & Darlene!!

Our cover story is on the incredible LES BAXTER, a brilliant innovator who
single-handedly masterminded the entire "exotica" movement of the '50s. Martin
Denny took the ball and expanded on the genre, but Baxter had the original
inspiration for jungle-y sounds, filled with imaginative themes. Our three
seperate articles look closely at the man behind the music, particularly
towards the end of his life.

THE BONZO DOG BAND were wild musical trendsetters who paved the way for
countless oddball comedy rock groups. Our interviews with NEIL INNES and Bonzo
curator JIM YOAKUM give inside information on the creation of some of their
most adventurous music.

We travel to San Diego with SAN DIEGO'S COOLEST RECORD STORES. Our "Record
Store Report" is a handy reference feature that we include in every issue of
our magazine, and this time it features sunny San Diego. With it's abundance
of retired folks, it's a mecca of thrift stores and used record stores with
some choice discards!

In our photo centerfold this time are some of the NAKED LADY LP COVERS sent in
by some of our readers from all over the world. Bet you've never seen most of
these highly collectable (and expensive) ladies! Yowzers!

Lastly, we vistit with HENRY PHILLIPS, one of the most twisted and irreverent
singer-songwriters that we've ever heard! His very funny CD on Oglio Records,
was one of our top picks of last year, and he sheds some light on his creative
process. We nominate Henry as the logical successor to the brilliant Tom
Lehrer, God bless him.

All this, and a whole lot more fun stuff than we dare mention, and you'll find
a very Cool Issue #9 of COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE. So get on board!
It's gonna be a cool ride through the wild, wacky and sometimes tacky world of
records!

COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE is available at most Tower Records and Tower
Books stores and we are also in hundreds of newsstands and independent
bookstores around the U.S., so take a look!

If you have trouble locating  COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE locally, you
can order by mail. Our first six issues have sold out, (and won't be reprinted
of xeroxed) but #7 and #8 are still available), we'd be happy to mail you a
copy of #7 , #8 or the latest issue (#9) for a measly $3.95 in the US, $5
Canada, and $6 to all other countries. (U.S. funds, please.) Hey, there's
never an extra charge for postage. THAT'S the kind of magazine we are!

Subscriptions (we publish quarterly) are just $12 a year (4 issues) for cool
guys and gals in the U.S.A., $16 Canada, and $25 (U.S. funds) for our foreign
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Send your Check, Cash or Money Order to:

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Hey, take a look at our Web Site at
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There are lots of fun LP covers to download, lots of cool links to other great
related websites, scads more info about the magazine, and even reviews of the
mag by other magazines!







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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) We've had Blues Brothers 2000, what about Bedazzled
Date: 01 Jun 1998 11:21:05 -0400


At 12:29 AM +0000 6/1/98, Robbie Baldock wrote:
>Did we know about this (culled from www.imdb.com)?!
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Bedazzled (1999)
>USA 1999

>remake of  Bedazzled (1967)
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>
>I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

I think I'll just get sick....

br cleve




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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) fwd: New Raymond Scott Website Address
Date: 01 Jun 1998 17:10:53 -0500


   The Raymond Scott website now has a new location!

          http://www.RaymondScott.com

     Please update your links & bookmarks.

    Email may now be directed to: [e-mail]

    Thank you!




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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Gorshin enquiry
Date: 01 Jun 1998 18:02:14 -0400 (EDT)


> Frank Gorshin
>
> Not sure if he's an actor/singer or singer/actor.  Did a great
> job as the Riddler in the TV Batman series, but I once saw him
> do vocal impersonations.  His Andy Williams was the best.
>
> Did he ever sing in his own right?  Is he still about?

he is still about...i recently had the extreme pleasure and good fortune
to meet and shake hands with him at a fantasy/horror convention in New
Jersey last month. he even did a little Q+A in which he busted out some of
his stage routines. anecdotes and impersonations...my favorites were
always Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster...
he never made mention of any singing career, i am sure that the only
singing he did was most likely just a part of his characterisations.

hears to Frank....




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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Barcelona report
Date: 02 Jun 1998 00:02:24 +0000


Jill Mingo wrote:

> Will you be there for Sonar? Because I will be there then too!

No. Whirlpool will play there. Wish to go back though. It's a beautiful
city. I couldn't see very much in 2 days, had to stay in the club we
played most of the time, but what I've seen I liked. Barcelona has the
ideal combination of very small Old town lanes and wide "royal" places
and avenues. Extremely interesting and romantic architecture, not only by
Gaudi. Mediterranian sea breeze, just perfect. I don't know if the idea
of Exotica has reached this city at all, but they have enough palm trees
and wonderful parks and harbour views themselves. (Apparantely there is
nobody from Spain in the Exotica list).  Unfortunaltely I couldn't go to
the Marsella Bar and I couldn't figure out the museum with that Zombie,
but thanks to Brother Cleve (saw a foto of you today in that Exotica
fanzine that you write for) and Magnus for the tips. I might go back to
Barcelona pretty soon, because they offered Andreas Dorau a whole
Spain-tour.

So... no signs of Tiki, but a pretty exotic adventure!

MO




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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Proof that Bill Gates is Satan
Date: 02 Jun 1998 00:03:38 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

> from the Orchestra List
> * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
> Microsoft Mozart
>
> The classically-minded may have noted a new TV ad for Microsoft's
> Internet Explorer e-mail program, which uses the musical theme of the
> "Confutatis Maledictis" from Mozart's Requiem.
>
> "Where do you want to go today?" is the cheery line on the screen.
>
> Meanwhile, the chorus sings "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus
> addictis," which means "The damned and accursed are convicted to flames
> of hell."
>

Mozart was a freemason!

MO



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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Ray Charles Singers
Date: 01 Jun 1998 23:22:09 EDT


In a message dated 6/1/98 8:14:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> THE BEST--I kid you not--cover of "Music to Watch Girls By" is on their "A
>  Special Something," Command RS 914 SD.  Easy to spot by its metallic silver
>  cover.

I admit I have not yet heard the RCSingers version of "Music To Watch Girls
By" (although I would like to hear it) --- but there is another great version
of this that most might pass by unsuspectingly -- The Ray Conniff Singers
version. I forget which LP it is on, but if you see it (for $3.00 or less) GET
IT!!!

Also, on the topic of "Music To Watch Girls By", the first time I saw
Combustible Edison live, they did a FANTASTIC version of this complete with
the vocals. A great live exotica band.  (They were also great back when they
were Christmas, before they became Combustible Edison)

Larry


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek
Date: 02 Jun 1998 02:24:13 EDT


In a message dated 98-05-28 08:55:54 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Okay, are there any audiophiles on exotica?

 I'm soliciting recommendations for high-end audio
 equipment......(turntable, speakers, amp, tape deck) I'd like to
 stay around $500 for each if that's at all possible......
  >>

Okay, this is really a coincidence that this gets posted to the list the day
AFTER I just found out my dad was one of those audiophiles (I thought it was
stereophile) in the 1960s.  He told me that in those days if you couldn't
afford the thousands of dollars for the stereo equipment, you had to make it
yourself.   He says that the really good speakers where made by Altec Lansing.
He used some by a company called "Voice of the Theatre" or "Electro Voice" or
something like that.  He says the stereo equipment you made from a kit -
Heathkit and there were others. He had a Fisher amplifier.  He whipped out the
original catalog from Altec Lansing and these graphs of how he measured the
frequency/resistance or some-such to determine the Free-air resonance which is
how you tweek this or that and then design the box for the speakers.  It was
all pretty complicated and I don't what to be a bore.

My poor dad had all this bitchin equipment and it was in a storage locker and
of course it all got ripped off.  When I was a teenager, he gave me one of his
extra Fisher amplifiers and a set of speakers and I remember just pushing one
switch on the amp and being able to like blow the roof off the house with the
sound.

My question to all of you is.... Is there a market in this old equipment
today????  What's it worth???   Do any of you being into this time period and
all musically, play your stuff on vintage systems?????

Any and all comments appreciated.

- Michele


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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sorry for the...
Date: 02 Jun 1998 01:15:50 PDT


duplicates of the "tiki wine" posting. But it was not my fault.
I assure you...

 -- Magnus

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Wine
Date: 02 Jun 1998 11:26:11 +0000


 Magnus Sandberg wrote:

> I bought four bottles of white wine yesterday, because the picture on
> the front featured three easter island tikis :)
>
> Santa Digna is the name of the wine, I dunno if its bottled here in
> Sweden, but the grapes is from Chile.
>
> All swedish exoticats must have at least two bottles in there pad.
>
>  -- Magnus
>

All Germans, too! Can you reserve 6 bottles for me?
MO




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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Wine
Date: 02 Jun 1998 11:25:15 +0000


 Magnus Sandberg wrote:

> I bought four bottles of white wine yesterday, because the picture on
> the front featured three easter island tikis :)
>
> Santa Digna is the name of the wine, I dunno if its bottled here in
> Sweden, but the grapes is from Chile.
>
> All swedish exoticats must have at least two bottles in there pad.
>
>  -- Magnus
>

All Germans, too! Can you reserve 6 bottles for me?
MO




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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Wine
Date: 02 Jun 1998 08:23:18 EDT


Man, you can find anything on the web:

Frome some guy named "Yak" who have a wine site:

Sauvignon Blanc - Santa Digna    1995    M. Torres (Chile)

8/96. Bought locally July-96 for $13.
When an imported wine costs $13 in Israel, you can be sure it costs less than
$5 elsewhere. For $5 I'd say it is a superb value...
Very fresh fruity and aromatic nose. The smell of a vineyard reminded me of an
Alsatian Riesling or Muscat more than of a Sauvignon Blanc. Taste however was
much less impressive... Not entirely dry, some vegetative tones give a bitter
edge that is not particularly pleasant. A better wine to smell than to drink <
g >.
MARK: 15/20.aaaaaaaaBUY MORE? No.

In a message dated 98-06-02 05:27:11 EDT, you write:

<< Subj:     Re: (exotica) Tiki Wine
 Date:    98-06-02 05:27:11 EDT
 From:    [e-mail] (Moritz R)
 Sender:    [e-mail]
 Reply-to:    [e-mail]
 To:    [e-mail] (exotica mailing list)


  Magnus Sandberg wrote:

 > I bought four bottles of white wine yesterday, because the picture on
 > the front featured three easter island tikis :)
 >
 > Santa Digna is the name of the wine, I dunno if its bottled here in
 > Sweden, but the grapes is from Chile.
 >
 > All swedish exoticats must have at least two bottles in there pad.
 >
 >  -- Magnus
 >

 All Germans, too! Can you reserve 6 bottles for me?
 MO


  >>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) John Keating - Temptation
Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:51:34 UT


Well, I will say this wasn't BAD.  It just wasn't... great.  There were others
that were despicable enough to be removed immediately, but I did go through a
whole side.  The arrangements are decent, but not great, and the vocals are very
very standard for that era.  You know, four chicks and four guys, gyrating
slowly and singing while looking up at the slightly overhead camera.  You get
the drift.
Temptation was good, Whatever Lola Wants was all right and, um, whatever song it
was I said before.  Now I forget.  So, maybe this was disappointing because it
was so close to being good.

Anyway,
for fifty cents, who's complaining?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Combustible Edison
Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:55:35 UT


Does anyone know what they're up to?
The last album was, what, 96?
Any plans for a new one?

PeterR


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rose who?
Date: 02 Jun 1998 10:58:24 EDT


Heard a female singer/pianist who sounds like Billie Holiday doing a Betty
Boop scatting imitation (!), maybe ca. 1940's or thereabouts.  According to
the announcer, she used a foot pedal which she rigged up that banged on the
bottom of the piano--this is how she kept time (no drummer).  She also made
weird sounds with her mouth, mangling the lyrics--but what STYLE!!
Incredible!! I believe her name was Rose Murphy--anybody know anything?
Cheers
Chuck


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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek
Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:37:52 -0500


>My question to all of you is.... Is there a market in this old equipment
>today????  What's it worth???   Do any of you being into this time period and
>all musically, play your stuff on vintage systems?????
>My question to all of you is.... Is there a market in this old equipment
>today????  What's it worth???   Do any of you being into this time period and
>all musically, play your stuff on vintage systems?????


My HiFi repairman told me about his Heathkit stereo amp that he built in
the 60's. He swears by it and claims that nothing, then or now, comes
close to matching its performance.
He gos to repairman conventions and tells me about a whole net work of
vintage stero nuts. I myself don't know how to tap into this "market'.

I have a late 60's Telefunken stereo HiFi that I bought at a yardsale and
when I played some of my "stereo action" LPs on it I was totally blown
away! I had been listening to these albums for years on some decent
average contemporary equipment and never even considered that they could
sound so different.(You'll have a true "oneness" with 60's
batchelorpadness).

 It makes sense to play vintage LPs on vintage equipment. I find that
contemporary record production and equipment are too bass oriented.

I would even recommend "record players" if you can find one that works. A
word of caution here though, the old tone arm and needle will tear up a
record in no time, so if you know how I'd rig it with a newer balanced
tone arm.


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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune
Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:37:55 -0500


The recent responses to the subject of The Ray Charles Singers version of
Music to Watch Girls By, which by the way is a great version, started me
thinking that there are some 50's and 60's standards that seem to survive
any arrangments ( and derangements). There are a core of lounge tunes
with which you can do no wrong.

Now, I'm new to this list so excuse me if this has been done already, but
I'd be curious to see other folks top ten (or more?) exotica standard
tunes.  I enjoyed reading the similar responses on the Burt Bacharach
site of favorite Burt tunes.

Here's my list (I'm just writing this off the top of my head so please
allow a future revised version.)


1. Caravan
2. Music to Watch Girls By
3. Theme to Exodus
4. The Look of Love
5. A Taste of Honey
6. Besame Mucho
7. Maleguena
8. The Breeze and I(Andalucia)
9. El Cumbanchero
10.The Poor People of Paris

RUNNER UPS

Perfidia
Tico Tico
Laura
Fever
Nature Boy


Whew! That was tougher than I thought!
Good Luck

Frank

My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek (+ an all-tube synth!)
Date: 02 Jun 1998 14:24:09 -0400


> My question to all of you is.... Is there a market in this old equipment
> today????  What's it worth???   Do any of you being into this time period and
> all musically, play your stuff on vintage systems????

Oh yeah, there's a whole cottage industry dedicated to vintage and DIY tube
audio. If I had the money, time and shelf space, I'd go DIY for sure. There's
definitely a lot of people restoring vintage gear -- old Dynaco stuff seems to
be universally loved.

Angela Instruments:
http://www.angela.com/
Is the online catalog of one of my favorite tube geek sources. They cover the
vintage guitar amp side of things also. They were a big help when I rebuilt my
mid 60's Fender Champ. They used to sell a lot of vintage gear, but it seems
like they've moved more towards the DIY side because they feel it's more
economical. They still have some used stuff though. They carry the Audio Note
kits (Audio Note makes very, VERY expensive tube hi-fi gear, the kits are
somewhat more affordable for mere mortals); the site also includes plans for
raw DIY projects. The hot thing in this rarified field is very simple and pure
designs: low power, single-ended triode tube setups (if you don't know what it
means, never mind). Maybe combined with single driver speakers (i.e. instead of
a woofer & tweeter (or whatever) the cabinet only contains a single full-range
speaker -- eliminates crossover coloration and phasing problems (geeeeekk!!!))
Could be, I've listened to records through my Champ (single-ended, single
driver) and they *did* have a wonderful presence. Uh, anyway, fun site. Dig
around. Check the links page for more, like...

The website from the magazine, "Vacuum Tube Valley":
http://www.vacuumtube.com/
They have more info on vintage gear, including a classifieds/bulletin board
page (up to date!). They also hawk reference books on vintage gear, including a
price guide. And another links page. Where I discovered this:

http://www.synthfool.com/diy/eb.html
Someone has built an all-tube analog synth!

accepting my inner geek,

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Gyrrls By
Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:24:14 EDT


I also like versions by Roger Williams (!) and Joe Harnell...both excellent.
Williams really swings man


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) geeks
Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:27:23 -0400


One of the things I like about this list is how often people identify
themselves as geeks or at least how often they pretend to accept it about
themselves.
I often wonder how many listers use the word "obsession" on a daily basis,
how many insist they're not collectors but instead are "accumulators", a
fine distinction.  Not a significant distinction I don't think but an
interesting one.
I don't get the feeling that many here engage in MY favorite pasttime,
namely explaining this obsession as a function of self-loathing, but to
each his own, right?
The purpose of this posting though is to open the floor for a discussion on
the difference between being a GEEK and being a NERD.
They're often used interchangeably.  "Computer geek", "Computer nerd".
I think it's obvious though that they're quite different.  I don't think
I've ever seen anyone on the list step up proudly and call themselves a
"nerd" but there are a fair number of proud geeks here.
What's the difference?  I have my theory but I wonder about yours.

yours wallowing in luxurious self-loathing,
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Subject: (exotica) More on Keating
Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:27:45 EDT


A John Keating CD is in the making as we speak...mostly his 1972 retro-future
type stuff...I heard the final DAT recording less than an hour ago.......


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Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:29:58 EDT


While others on this list know more than I, I happen to know that they are
recording a new album due in September and I believe they will tour to promote
it...I understand that a more modern sound may be in the making for them as
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Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek
Date: 02 Jun 1998 16:28:21 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-02 13:38:39 EDT, Recliner writes:

<< It makes sense to play vintage LPs on vintage equipment. I find that
 contemporary record production and equipment are too bass oriented. >>

I have two old Magnovox stereo consoles from the 60's that I listen to my LP's
on. (Hate to say it but I stack 'em - kinda like that "plop" sound - I know,
folks are wretching).  These things do have a good bass sound but the volume
(or Loudness as Magnavox called it -- so British -- I love it) leaves
something to be desired.  There was def a emphasis on the mid-range in these
old instruments.  Most of the Rap fans have more bass in their cars than I
have on my consoles.

Anyway, I really like the nostalgia of playing the records in this vintage
style.

There was a web site that had vintage apparati but I ran a search engine and
could not find it.

Oh well, need to go stack a few more records.  And if this really bothers you
just think what my Victrola does to the 78's I play ! ! !

Robert



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Subject: (exotica) geeks -Reply
Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:40:40 -0400


A geek bites the heads off of chickens at sideshows.....

A nerd is everybody else!

- Nate (not a nerd, but a really cool dude!)


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Date: 02 Jun 1998 20:53:26 UT


Who's releasing that?

PeterR

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Date: 02 Jun 1998 16:30:36 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-02 15:30:45 EDT, you write:

<< I often wonder how many listers use the word "obsession" on a daily basis,
 how many insist they're not collectors but instead are "accumulators", a
 fine distinction. >>

"Accumulators"  I LOVE IT.  That's my new monikor.

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From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) geeks vs. nerds
Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:37:41 -0700


hi all,

this is my first post...

anyhoo, on the topic of geeks vs. nerds, i have to agree with nat that most
people are willing to call themselves "fill-in-the-blank-hobby" geeks.  To
achieve geekdom simply means that you're really into this one thing and you
know what you're talking about (or you think you do).  But the whole nerd
thing is still swimming around in the icky junior high school feeling that
went along with being the last-picked kid for a team sport.  Being a nerd,
unfortunately, still implies that you can't get the girl, still can't wear
the right clothes and are still too smart for most peole to enjoy being
around.

Oddly, this topic has cropped up on some of my other mailing lists, and I
think it has something to do with the general (very general) demographic of
people on mailing lists.  I mean, we all like computers, obviously... and
there's a certain geek love affair with computing, i would say.  And with
this new information age thing, lots of us are making decent money, in
"cool" jobs, that involve technology.  It used to get us laughed at, now it
gets us invited to software launch parties!  This topic is discussed at
some length (and in a right hilarious manner) by douglas coupland in
"microserfs."

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Subject: Re: (exotica) geeks
Date: 02 Jun 1998 16:37:24 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-02 15:30:45 EDT, you write:

<< The purpose of this posting though is to open the floor for a discussion on
 the difference between being a GEEK and being a NERD. >>

OK, here's my slant:

"geek" has the connotation of some level of expertise or high level of
ability.  i.e. Computer Geek, Science Geek.  Thus I think Geek refers to
intelect and not social standing.

A "nerd" is just someone who is socially looked down upon because of his
(supposed) inferior social standing.

Or think of it this way:  A geek can get rich because of his "geek-dom" but a
nerd will not get rich from his "nerd-dom".

Prolific huh?

Robert
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From: [e-mail] (Rod)
Subject: (exotica) Frank Buxton?
Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:43:19 -0500


Anyone heard of "The Silly Record" by Frank Buxton?

Rod Abernethy




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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune
Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:43:45 PDT


As for Music to Watch Girls By, a couple of favorite versions are The
Ventures' and The Exotic Guitars'.

As far as the core canon goes, I would include:

Washington Square (esp. D. Hyman, Fabulous, & there is a moog version, I
think by Enoch Light).
Siboney
Taboo
Bond Street
Begin the Beguine



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison
Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:59:43 -0400


At 1:55 PM +0000 6/2/98, [e-mail] wrote:
>Does anyone know what they're up to?
>The last album was, what, 96?
>Any plans for a new one?

We just finished the new album - it's titled "The Impossible World", and
it's due in stores in the U.S. on September 22. It's on SubPop, and it was
produced by John Holbrook and Scanner. I assume it'll come out in the rest
of the world right around the same time. Touring will commence in October.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rose "Chi-Chi" Murphy
Date: 02 Jun 1998 17:33:08 -0500


I forwarded the question about "Rose Who?" to a few folks.
Here's two reactions/answers.
--Lou


Anonymous#1 wrote:
Rose "Chi-Chi" Murphy -- so nicknamed because she had a tendency to
interject the words/noises "chi-chi" into everything she sang -- was a
singer and pianist who had quite a vogue from about the mid-40s to the late
50s. I believe her recording of "I Can't Give You Anything but Love" was a
pretty substantial hit; in any case, it became her best-known number and the
centerpiece of her live act.

She wasn't exactly a jazz singer of the first rank in my opinion, and one
would be hard pressed to find her name in most jazz reference books, but she
was certainly jazz-influenced. She was also a big enough star at one time
that for many years Ella Fitzgerald used to do an imitation of her as part
of her shows, and audiences usually got the joke.

I don't know what happened to her after about 1960, but I seem to recall
that she made a comeback of sorts at The Cookery in the seventies (as did
Alberta Hunter, Nellie Lutcher and other female singers of an earlier era).

I assume she's been dead for a while. I don't know if any of her records are
currently in print, but I'd be surprised if there isn't at least one CD of
hers on some label somewhere.

anonymous#2 wrote:
Rose Murphy was:
1) Adam Clayton Powell Sr.'s wife
2) A hugely popular entertainer of the in-between-jazz-and-pop sort
3) a pianist and singer of wonderful, loose style
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Subject: (exotica) geek intro
Date: 02 Jun 1998 14:46:09 -0700


>Seriously, post an intro or some comments.

ah, shucks... um, ok.  I just joined the list monday, after someone on the
indiepop mailing list highly recommeded it.   I'm just starting to get into
this genre, though.  How did i get here? (hey,  this is not my beautiful
house!).  Well, it's a pretty short road from stereolab to man or astroman
to esquivel to martin denny, i guess.  I just never realized the wealth of
older releases i was missing out on...

So, i'm a total newcomer when it comes to these things... i bought
"exotica" last week because I loved the cover art.  I loved it even more
when i got home and put in on the record player.

On a personal note, I do web production and a weekly music column for
http://www.sfgate.com.  Originally from texas... enjoy long walks on the
beach... (KIDDING!! )

I'm looking forward to learning lots from this list.  Which brings me to my
first topical question.  I read the FAQ, but didn't see anything addressing
the needs of the most freshman student of exotica.  Perhaps  a list of
essential artists/recordings sent to me would be a nice thing.  (hint;)




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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) geeks etc.
Date: 02 Jun 1998 22:53:04 +0100


>
><< The purpose of this posting though is to open the floor for a
discussion on
> the difference between being a GEEK and being a NERD. >>
>
GEEK tends to apply to people with useful work related skills, and it's one
of
those words where the derogatory sense perhaps obscures slight jealousy?

There's also the term ANORAK which evolved from train-spotters who wear them,
to apply to any group who have an interest, usually slightly more than is
deemed
healthy, in any hobby that is considered a bit pathetic, eg vomology,
phone-card
collecting, Hummel figurines etc.   A species just emerging in the UK are
Beanie Babies Anoraks.

Where the two tribes Anoraks and Geeks differ from Nerds, is that they're
proud to be what they are: Nerds are unhappy because they are nerds.

Question: is it possible for a woman to be a nerd?

Hugh.


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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rose "Chi-Chi" Murphy
Date: 02 Jun 1998 18:28:39 -0400


I inadvertantly Chi-cheated and waited for the erudite Mr. Smith to post
something, but I remember this woman from the days of NPR, when I was an
intern there from 1986-7.  I was given the task of listening, labeling and
sending old "Jazz Alive" tapes to WBGO in Newark.

Some were great, most were outtakes (lackadaisacal performances or
inebriated ones).

There were many tapes, although there was one mis-labeled "Shirley Horn"
upon which a very squeaky-voiced woman sang and there was an interview
before the performance as well.  She talked about how she got the nickname
of "Chi-Chi" and she did indeed sing, "I can't give you anything but
Chi-chi, baby" during her live performance, which I think dated from the
1980's.

Since I thought this was Shirley Horn, I used to avoid her albums, until I
heard Horn's "Here's to Love" which features Horn's wonderful piano playing
and great, decidedly lower-octave singing.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Rose "Chi-Chi" Murphy
Date: 02 Jun 1998 17:26:57 -0700



>Rose Murphy was:
>1) Adam Clayton Powell Sr.'s wife

Wasn't he married to the jazzier pianist Hazel Scott? Both?
Youth wants to know!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune
Date: 02 Jun 1998 20:33:43 EDT


From your list I would agree that these are songs that you pretty much can do
no wrong with (never heard a bad version)

>  1. Caravan
>  2. Music to Watch Girls By

>  6. Besame Mucho
>  7. Maleguena

and I would add
The Hawaiian War Chant
Wives and Lovers (by Bacharach)
A Man and a Woman

Others?
Larry


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Subject: (exotica) re:Dmitri from Paris
Date: 02 Jun 1998 20:40:06 EDT


>>Anyway, my question: The CD's hidden bonus track is based around a repeated
sample of someone saying, "I like lots of things, but there are three
things I like most: love, love and love." Does anyone know the source of
this line? I'm guessing that it's either a Claudine Longet line from "The
Party," or a Audrey Hepburn line from "Breakfast at Tiffany's." Help?<<

This line was spoken by Anita Ekberg in Federico Fellini's 1961 film "La Dolce
Vita".  Great movie, great soundtrack.  Check it out!


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune
Date: 02 Jun 1998 20:44:47 EDT


I forgot to include on of the most important titles of the core exotica cannon
on my previous list--
The James Bond Theme

Larry


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From: Jan Fornell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mozart the Egyptian
Date: 03 Jun 1998 11:00:32 +0900


> Mozart was a freemason!
Which brings us back to Aegypt, of course.
In a Tokyo record store I saw an odd French (?) CD called
"Mozart l'Egyptien", which I believe contained Mozart
compositions played Egyptian style (exotica!).
Unfortunately, it was quite expensive (it was one of those
days when the yen had fallen a few per cent against the
dollar and, with customary Japanese logic, all FRENCH
imports had been heavily marked up -- the prices have
since come down somewhat, even though the yen continues
to fall) so I passed it up, and haven't seen it since.
Has anybody heard this?

Jan



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Subject: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick
Date: 02 Jun 1998 19:24:02 +0000


Goodwill here had some interesting records I couldn't pass up, even though
they
cost 4 times what I normally pay for "experiments."

Trio Shmeed, ABC-Paramount 103, was interesting to me for several reasons.
This is obviously one of the first LPs from this label.  Don Costa
conducted the orchestra.  And Shmeed, an interesting name.  Sure, it's the
Swiss equivalent of Smith.  Also, the photo with the trio pictured below a
crazy array of arrows was interesting.  Then, when I got it home, I heard
it...yodels in all sorts of musical styles.  The Yodel Cha Cha is priceless.

Montenegro in Italy  Time S-2051. I find Hugo Montenegro sort of hit or
miss for me.  However, when his orchestra has Harry Breuer, Phil Kraus and
Bob Rosengarden in the percussion section, I felt it had to have at least
one neat cut.  And that it does, at least.

Dee-Day! Decca DL-8628.  I actually bought two Lenny Dee albums, this early
album and a late album.  I dread listening to the other one because it came
from a period when he lost his style and was often drowned out by
orchestras (but I still got it because I always hope for that one good
cut).  No worries on this one, though.  Every cut is great...and Dee is
only accompanied by little more than tapping (very rhythmic tapping, but
basically just hand tapping). Of course, the lead cut "Satan Takes A
Holiday" is killer, but everything else does quite well. The front photo is
also interesting: Dee sitting high up on a convertible sitting in back of
six high school or college age girls (with at least three of them with
enough physical resemblance to each other to call sisters).

Brazilian Impressions. Dick Hyman piano (with woodwinds).  Command RS
911SD.  Bob Rosengarden is also on this one.  Great cover and the usual
gatefold treatment by Command.  Nice laid back music as you would expect,
but with some interesting arrangements and good performances by all.

Persuasive Percussion, Volume 3, Command RS 817 SD.  This may be the last
percussion album from their series that I did not yet have.  I wouldn't say
it's my favorite, but it has its own points.  This record successfully
brings in Doc Severinson's trumpet without diminishing his performance or
that of the percussionists.  It really does work, especially with cuts like
Hawaiian War Chant and Bingo Bango Bongo Baby.  It features another
geometric art cover by Josef Albers.

The James Bond Thrillers, The Roland Shaw Orchestra, London LL 3412.  I was
ready for the worst, but had to try it.  Actually, I was quite pleased.
The renditions were well done, if a bit unoriginal.  The performances were
about as close to the original soundtrack as such albums come.  Its almost
like they went to the recording studio next door, stole the arrangements
and cut their versions with the same musicians in some late night session!

Byron

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Subject: (exotica) Nerds are Dorks!
Date: 03 Jun 1998 00:19:06 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-02 15:30:45 EDT, you write:

<< The purpose of this posting though is to open the floor for a discussion on
 the difference between being a GEEK and being a NERD. >>

You know I used the word Geek in my posting because I thought I read that that
was the correct "lounge" term for these people in the 60's who were building
their own stereos - where did I read this?  Must have been in an inner sleeve
for some lounge comp - maybe the Varese Enoch Light CDs?  Anyway, for sure
there's a diff. betw. geek and nerd.  I think everyone would agree that geek
implies someone who has an over-fascination with something that outsiders see
as dorky.  This term seems to imply that the person is a nut about a subject
that others think is a ridiculous waste of time, but that the person is an
otherwise cool, okay person.   Whereas when you say "nerd" there's a definite
connotation that the person is not cool - this is beyond their obsession that
they are a geek about.  To say they are a nerd is to imply that they've got a
personality defect, i.e., they are a dork.  Lets see if anyone posts in
agreement to this.

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek
Date: 03 Jun 1998 00:19:07 EDT


A reply from my friend the optometrist.

- Michele


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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kon-Tiki Museum Webserver
Date: 03 Jun 1998 03:42:26 PDT



I just saw that the Kon-Tiki Museums Web has been updated.

http://www.media.uio.no/Kon-Tiki/


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Nerds are Dorks!
Date: 03 Jun 1998 07:53:52 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-03 00:21:48 EDT, you write:

<< I think everyone would agree that geek
 implies someone who has an over-fascination with something that outsiders see
 as dorky >>

i kinda disagree with this statement because a lot of folks that others
consider geeks are not seen as dorky.  For instance Bill Gates, the ultimate
computer geek.  I don't think most see his as over-facinated or dorky (well
maybe a little).  I think they see him as a tremendously knowledgeble computer
geek who made it.

I hope I did not offend.

Robert
(and it was ment to say in a prev. post of mine:
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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Keep the Faith, Baby!
Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:11:52 -0400


> >Rose Murphy was:
> >1) Adam Clayton Powell Sr.'s wife
>
> Wasn't he married to the jazzier pianist Hazel Scott? Both?
> Youth wants to know!

Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. was married to Isabel Washington and then Hazel
Scott, but not to Ms. Murphy.  He went on to Congress, the first black
Congressman from NY.  Adam Clayton Powell, Sr. was born in 1865 and preached
at the Abyssinian Baptist Church.  When he retired, his son took his place.

The subject line is a reference to the single that Powell, Jr. recorded.  I
don't own it.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Montenegro
Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:43:36 EDT


In a message dated 6/2/98 11:21:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> Montenegro in Italy  Time S-2051. I find Hugo Montenegro sort of hit or
>  miss for me.

Warning to those of you who don't already know.  Do NOT purchase the
Montenegro "Good Bad & The Ugly." It is a miss.  No where near as good as the
original Morricone versions. Pony up the extra dough and get the real thing.

Larry


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Subject: (exotica) Re: Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune
Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:47:21 EDT


In a message dated 6/2/98 11:35:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Frenesi

Thanks for pointing this one out as well. Never heard a bad version.

Larry


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Nerds, Geeks, Dorks and Satans
Date: 03 Jun 1998 15:00:25 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

> For instance Bill Gates, the ultimate
> computer geek.  I don't think most see his as over-facinated or dorky (well
> maybe a little).  I think they see him as a tremendously knowledgeble computer
> geek who made it.

Now let me understand this: Bill Gates, whose identity was unequivocally cleared
as "satan" just a few days ago, is a "geek", when I always believed he's in fact
the typical "nerd". I remember days, when it was quite hip to be a nerd - well,
at least to know someone who is a nerd - and it was strictly connected to
"computer", and now everybody agrees, that nerds are not desirable anymore. I'm
afraid that might happen to the term geek one day, too. As for me I share a 85%
interest in everything and therefore can't qualify for "geek", right?

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From: Michael Hibarger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By...
Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:47:52 -0400


Anyone hear the Silouheutte version of "Music to Watch Girls By"?

How about the Bob Crewe Generation's "Music to Watch Birds By"?

Mike.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Montenegro
Date: 03 Jun 1998 09:52:07 EDT




<< Warning to those of you who don't already know.  Do NOT purchase the
 Montenegro "Good Bad & The Ugly." It is a miss. >>

and, if you want a ass kickin' HIT, try the soundtrack to:

LADY IN CEMENT

no CD, sorry


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Subject: (exotica) cd snapped in half
Date: 03 Jun 1998 11:52:09 +0000


I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a
liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half?

friendly

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bugs are Nuts!
Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:30:35 -0500


At 12:19 AM 6/3/98 EDT, Michele wrote:

>You know I used the word Geek in my posting because I thought I read that that
>was the correct "lounge" term for these people in the 60's who were building
>their own stereos - where did I read this?

They used to be called Hi-Fi Bugs or Hi-Fi Nuts. What's wrong with those terms?

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Subject: (exotica) Standards
Date: 03 Jun 1998 15:33:42 UT


I don't know about the other tunes, many of which I've never heard yet, but the
king daddy mack exotica tune has to be Caravan.

Reason 1: I've already got, like, seven versions of the tune in my little tiny
collection.  Also, virtually every mix tape I've ever traded for has a copy of
the tune.  There isn't anyone who hasn't done it, it seems.

Reason 2: They all rock.  I have yet to hear a bad version of the tune.

Anyway, another canon addition:

Harlem Nocturne - so many different versions and again, all great.  I think this
one definitely belongs.

Also:
Cool - I've only heard a few versions of this and they're all good, including
the original.  A personal fave.


PeterR


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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) More bloody Peter Thomas
Date: 03 Jun 1998 15:41:48 +0100






Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
06/03/98 10:41 AM


cc:


I know a lot has been said about him recently, but I just scored two of his
German LPs. One - Organic, is superb with arrangements of Wheel's on Fire,
Dock of the Bay, Jumping Jack Flash and others. The other one is a bit
'smaltzy' but also good. Both are Polydor Germany, early 1970s.TOP


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From: Joe Kilmartin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune
Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:33:51 -0400


At 01:43 PM 02/06/1998 PDT, you wrote:
>
>As for Music to Watch Girls By, a couple of favorite versions are The
>Ventures' and The Exotic Guitars'.
>
>As far as the core canon goes, I would include:

(Amongst others)

>Bond Street

These are la creme de la creme of lounge instrumentals as far as Im
concerned.  These and Quincy Jones's Swing BossaNova.

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From: Joe Kilmartin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) geek intro
Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:43:27 -0400



>At 02:46 PM 02/06/1998 -0700, Jasmine wrote:

>>I'm looking forward to learning lots from this list.  Which brings me to my
>>first topical question.  I read the FAQ, but didn't see anything addressing
>>the needs of the most freshman student of exotica.  Perhaps  a list of
>>essential artists/recordings sent to me would be a nice thing.  (hint;)
>
>A lot of the really good "Getting to know you, getting to know all about
you" important stuff is on the Rhino and Capital compilations, though the
"foraging for old records like so many truffles in the mud" method of
thrift shopping turns up the gems that nobody's bothered to collect
digitally yet.  I really recommend the second Rhino collection if only for
the lounge/swing mainstays like "Jazz BossaNova", "Call Me", "Mais Que
Nada" and a few other really great tunes.
>
>Somebody once said this and it seemed so perfectly applicable to this
whole genre:
>Remember- Nothing is "old" if you've never heard it before...
>
Hopin this helps,
>Joe in Toronto
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Subject: (exotica) More Standards
Date: 03 Jun 1998 15:41:13 UT


Oh yeah,
I'd have to disagree with a lot of those "Spanish" standards, like Perfidia,
Maleguena, etc.
Why?  Because Norman Luboff killed them on that Apasionada album, so I would
argue they don't satisfy the original criterion, which was that all versions are
good.

Unless you're a Luboff fan.


Also, no Mancini?  No Morricone?  No Schifrin?

I'd say it's tough to do a bad version of Good Bad and Ugly or Mission
Impossible, but I don't have enough to back that up.  Anyone?


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Subject: (exotica) Mark Beyer -"Old Man in Space"
Date: 03 Jun 1998 07:50:58 PDT



Coming Soon! "Old Man in Space"
Primitive iconoclastic music by Mark Beyer recorded nearly thirty years
agobut only now being released on CD for the first time.
"A barrage of abrasive but fascinating sound collages utilitizing a
multitude of non-instruments"

http://www.rt66.com/~cleog/new.html

Does anyone know anything about this release? I wonder how my favorite
cartoonist sounds? Got to have that CD.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek
Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:51:51 -0400


At 02:24 AM 02/06/1998 EDT, MIchelle wrote:
>
>In a message dated 98-05-28 08:55:54 EDT, [e-mail] writes:
>
><< Okay, are there any audiophiles on exotica?
>
> I'm soliciting recommendations for high-end audio
> equipment......(turntable, speakers, amp, tape deck) I'd like to
> stay around $500 for each if that's at all possible......
>  >>
>
>Okay, this is really a coincidence that this gets posted to the list the day
>AFTER I just found out my dad was one of those audiophiles (I thought it was
>stereophile) in the 1960s.  He told me that in those days if you couldn't
>afford the thousands of dollars for the stereo equipment, you had to make it
>yourself.   He says that the really good speakers where made by Altec
Lansing.
>He used some by a company called "Voice of the Theatre" or "Electro Voice" or
>something like that.  He says the stereo equipment you made from a kit -
>Heathkit and there were others.

Our first stereo at home (that I remember) was a Heathkit that my Dad built
and huge 4 foot speakers that he would blast thetheme from Lawrence of
Arabia out of at a level that made you feel you were inside a Tympani drum
to hear.

It was great.

Am I the only one who remembers the homey *smell* that a fully warmed-up
Heathkit amplifier put out?

That's the one thing I miss most  about Dad's old box amp...


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kovacs on A&E
Date: 03 Jun 1998 11:09:22 -0500


FWD from Ben Model of the Ernie Kovacs website:

* * * * * *

 Just heard from A&E that:

   "Please be advised that 'Ernie Kovacs: Please Stand By' is scheduled for
broadcast on June 23rd at 8 pm EST.
   Thank you for your interest in A&E, and we hope that you continue to
enjoy all of our quality programming."

 Mark your calendars and set your VCRs.

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Subject: (exotica) Mark Beyer -"Old Man in Space"
Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:13:48 PDT



Coming Soon! "Old Man in Space"
Primitive iconoclastic music by Mark Beyer recorded nearly thirty years
agobut only now being released on CD for the first time.
"A barrage of abrasive but fascinating sound collages utilitizing a
multitude of non-instruments"

http://www.rt66.com/~cleog/new.html

Does anyone know anything about this release? I wonder how my favorite
cartoonist sounds? Got to have that CD.

Magnus

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fishing with John
Date: 03 Jun 1998 11:21:32 -0500


Those with cable access to the Independant Film Channel may be interested in
this up-coming series. And the CD soundtrack is available now.
-Lou

Fishing with John
-----------------
John Lurie knows absolutely nothing about fishing, but that doesn't stop him
from taking you on the adventure of a lifetime.

Part parody, part Zen-like nature and outdoor-adventure show, "Fishing with
John" is the newest series from IFC and John Lurie.

Leader of the musical group The Lounge Lizards and independent
filmmaker/actor John Lurie writes/directs/hosts this six-part series, in
which he travels to the most exotic and dangerous places on Earth to go
fishing with famous guests, including IFC Advisor and director Jim Jarmusch,
musician/actor Tom Waits, and actors Matt Dillon, Willem Dafoe and Dennis
Hopper.

In continuing the journey begun by the legendary Marlin Perkins and Jacques
Cousteau, John Lurie joins the ranks of America's great television
outdoorsmen (even though Cousteau was French). "Marlin Perkins shouldn't be
the only one who can tell you what the animals are thinking," says John Lurie.

"Fishing with John" - every Monday beginning June 15th at 8:30pm ET
<http://www.ifctv.com/whatson/fishing/aboutfwj.html>




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Subject: (exotica) Mark Beyer -"Old Man in Space"
Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:45:16 PDT



Coming Soon! "Old Man in Space"
Primitive iconoclastic music by Mark Beyer recorded nearly thirty years
agobut only now being released on CD for the first time.
"A barrage of abrasive but fascinating sound collages utilitizing a
multitude of non-instruments"

http://www.rt66.com/~cleog/new.html

Does anyone know anything about this release? I wonder how my favorite
cartoonist sounds? Got to have that CD.

Magnus

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Subject: Re: (exotica) cd snapped in half
Date: 03 Jun 1998 17:48:33 +0000


the_curator wrote:

> I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a
> liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half?
>

Why not a liquid? Try superglue? If that doesn't do it, forget it.

MO




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Subject: (exotica) Mark Beyer -"Old Man in Space"
Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:55:07 PDT



Coming Soon! "Old Man in Space"
Primitive iconoclastic music by Mark Beyer recorded nearly thirty years
agobut only now being released on CD for the first time.
"A barrage of abrasive but fascinating sound collages utilitizing a
multitude of non-instruments"

http://www.rt66.com/~cleog/new.html

Does anyone know anything about this release? I wonder how my favorite
cartoonist sounds? Got to have that CD.

Magnus

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Subject: Re: (exotica) cd snapped in half
Date: 03 Jun 1998 10:33:30 -0700


At 11:52 AM 6/3/98 +0000, Sem Sinatra wrote:
>
>I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a
>liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half?

I am far from an expert on this, but I think that this cd is now trash.
Again, I may be wrong, but it's my understanding that once a scratch is
deep enough on the LABEL side (where the information is embedded) for light
to shine through when you hold it up to a light source, it is beyond repair.

Dave


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By...
Date: 03 Jun 1998 14:32:40 EDT


Music to Watch Birds By is Crew's second or third album title, made following
a trip to England...It is well worth finding


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune
Date: 03 Jun 1998 14:39:06 -0400


At 08:33 PM 02/06/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>From your list I would agree that these are songs that you pretty much
can do
>no wrong with (never heard a bad version)

Caravan is a killer tune and maybe a few others mentioned on this thread
but the idea that ANY tune is immune or invulnerable to ruin, mistreatment,
murder, blandification, mishandling, missing the point etc sounds vaguely
like some Soviet idea of official melodies.  Or maybe it reminds me of
Hogan's Heroes and "You will listen to these tunes and you will like them!"
 (Isn't that where I heard that?)  Or a lack of discernment, standards,
taste... a blind acceptance.
You see those tunes on a record and your reaction is what?  "Oh this is
certainly good!"
I can't believe anyone here really believes that.
It's interesting to think about WHY these tunes showed up on record after
record, what was it about these tunes that they appealed to that audience
or at least why the record producers assumed they would.
The producers might have done these tunes because they THOUGHT they
couldn't ruin them but the idea that we the audience automatically agree
with them... well it's thinking like that, that produces Celine Dion.

Maybe I misunderstood.

Nat



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick
Date: 03 Jun 1998 14:39:09 -0400


At 07:24 PM 02/06/98 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:

>Montenegro in Italy  Time S-2051. I find Hugo Montenegro sort of hit or
>miss for me.

I keep hoping but those Montenegro records on Time, it's like they're by a
different artist, no resemblance whatsoever to what I love about Montenegro.

>Dee-Day! Decca DL-8628.  IThe front photo is
>also interesting: Dee sitting high up on a convertible sitting in back of
>six high school or college age girls

That's a theme for Lenny. He had an eye for the ladies.  And apparently
liked convertibles too.
On Easy Come, Easy Go, he's driving some kind of classic old convertible
and he's pulled up alongside a "faceless" blonde in a similar convertible.
(I've got an autographed copy. "To Mary and Bob"  If anybody here can
convince me that they ARE Mary and Bob, I'd give it up I guess.)
But my favourite is Mr.Dee goes to town where he's sitting high on a stage
and in front of him are this couple and I'd say, if I know anything about
body language, that woman is not going home with her date that night.

I think it would be boring for people who don't have the records and can't
see a scan of the cover but I have a few covers that I'd love to hear
interpretations of, especially from some of the women on the list.
I'm thinking specifically of "Serenade for love" by Richard Hayman but I
don't think I should go into my theory if we can't all look at the picture.

>Persuasive Percussion, Volume 3, Command RS 817 SD.  This may be the last
>percussion album from their series that I did not yet have.  I wouldn't say
>it's my favorite, but it has its own points.

I think you meant that this completed your "set" but if by "last", you mean
that there are only three volumes, there are at least 4.
It's a little confusing but as far as I can tell, the first two volumes
were Terry Snyder's and then he must have left and Enoch Light himself took
over.  And as much as I love a lot of Enoch Light's "own" records, the
style of the records change noticeably and suffer for it.

This brings up something that I assume someone here could clear up for me.
WHAT DID ENOCH LIGHT REALLY DO?  What role did he play on these records?

On Persuasive volume 2, it's Terry Snyder and the All stars but it's
"produced by Enoch Light".  On volume three and four, Terry is gone and now
it's "Originated and produced by Enoch Light".  But it says Lew Davies did
the arrangements on volumes 3 and 4 and Lew was also involved in volumes 1
and 2, even though they refer to Terry Snyder most of the time.
So what did Lew do, what did Terry do and what did Enoch do?
I've always been confused by this given that the "arrangements" are what
distinguished these records.  And the arrangements are so similar from
record to record, or at least there are certain constants.
On the other hand, Persuasive without Terry Snyder sort of sounds like
Enoch's Provocative records and Terry Snyder's records on his own (like on
Ultra Audio) sound a lot like the Command records he made with Enoch.
Are you following this?
What did Enoch do?  And what's the difference between Enoch Light and the
Light Brigade and a record he just originated and produced?

>The James Bond Thrillers, The Roland Shaw Orchestra, London LL 3412.  I was
>ready for the worst, but had to try it

I'm sure I've used up my reply allotment but besides having a spectacular
cover that I can't imagine anyone passing up, no matter how suspicious they
might be of the music, Roland Shaw's THEMES FOR SECRET AGENTS has a
shockingly good version of "Our Man Flint", a hard tune to ruin but he
really does it justice... though I could edit out the trombone solo.

That's it.  Let the threads unravel.

Nat



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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) female nerds
Date: 03 Jun 1998 14:40:31 -0400


Continuing on the geek nerd "ecstatically marginalized" thread, thank you
for your responses so far.
Yes of course there are female nerds and female geeks but just as there are
disproportionately fewer female record accumulators, there are fewer female
geeks and/or nerds.
I brought up the topic because I wondered if the terms were interchangeable
to folks here or whether they had distinct meanings.
I think it's obvious that on some level, "nerd" has a more negative
connotation.  You're less likely to say "yeah I'm a nerd".
You're less likely to celebrate it, I think.
But there's some irony there because I see the difference between nerd and
geek to be the difference between being out in the world and being locked
up in your hovel.
NERDS GO OUT.  They go places, they hang out with other nerds, they go to
nerd conventions.
Geeks stay in, keep their own company.  They may communicate with other
geeks but it probably wouldn't be out in the world that they do it.
A geek might send a posting into a list but he would never agree to meet
another person on their list for fear that he be found out as something
other than the cool dude he appears to be in his frequent and lengthy
(ranting) posts.
Geeks have a hard time looking you in the eye.  Nerds are all over you.

Having said that, I've heard these meanings attributed in the opposite way,
reversed.

By my definition there would be more female nerds than female geeks because
well... socialization discourages women from "standing out" or being
different more than it does men.
And I'm not talking about "being an individual" because no one is
encouraged to be that.
Women are more socially adept, more driven to be social and therefore there
are more female nerds than females holed up in their rooms making a "suit
of skin"... which also may explain why there are disproportionately fewer
female serial killers.
The quiet neighbour that nobody really got to know until he climbed the
tower that day is much much more likely to be a man. And I don't think
that's just about men and violence.

I can't believe I just wrote "men and violence".  Please transfer this post
to any of a number of 12-step posts that I'm sure exist somewhere.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) nerds etc.
Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:46:57 +0000


does anybody know the expression "dweeb"? does that have anything to do
with it? My girlfriend claims, it is something in between geek and dork.
In Germany we still call people who are maniac experts in a thing
"freaks". Like "Exotica-freak" or "Computer-freak".

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood
Date: 03 Jun 1998 22:01:13 +0000


I found 3 very nice bootleg Lee Hazelwood-CDs. They're:

   Love and other crimes

       Poet, Fool or Bum

           The Cowboy and the Ladies

The label is lhi records, possibly from France.

They have all the cool and rare stuff that you don't find so easily.

To me it's still hard to understand why Lee isn't so popular. Speaking
of Sinatra... Lee's music means much more to me. Some people say he's
weird.

MO



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From: "NATHAN MINER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) nerds etc. -Reply
Date: 03 Jun 1998 16:05:12 -0400


There was a candy called "Nerds" I never actually bought it though, I got =
it with my Halloween candy......Didn't ya hate it when ya got Bit o' =
Honey?  Yuk!  And yer Mom wouldn't let you eat any of the apples, and =
whoever read those scary Christian tracks?.......Who were the cheapskates =
that gave you like, three pennies?


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick
Date: 03 Jun 1998 17:42:12 EDT


In a message dated 6/3/98 2:40:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> shockingly good version of "Our Man Flint", a hard tune to ruin but he
>  really does it justice... though I could edit out the trombone solo.
I have a 45 by a Lee Hazelwood fronted instrumental group doing "Our Man
Flint" that is amazing! Flip side is "Spy Who Came In From The Cold" also
great.

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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A little dweeb'll do ya...
Date: 03 Jun 1998 18:26:27 -0400


> does anybody know the expression "dweeb"? does that have anything to do
> with it? My girlfriend claims, it is something in between geek and dork.
> In Germany we still call people who are maniac experts in a thing
> "freaks". Like "Exotica-freak" or "Computer-freak".


In the movie "The Breakfast Club" one character calls another a
"neo-naxi-zoom-dweebie".  There was also a short-lived television show
called "Dweebs" in the USA.  It was set in a computer technical support
center.




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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Ray Charles Singers
Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:04:17 -0400


>
> While we're discussing the Ray Charles Singers,

Jumping at the chance to rave about the Ray Charles Singers version of
"Commuter Blues" on their Sunrise Serenade album, whose cover features
the hands of a man and wife reaching across a nightstand to touch each
other from their respective single beds.

"Commuter Blues" has this very listenable lazy lilting swing that well
captures the feeling of being stuck in traffic...its definitely not a
road rage song.   The chorus is split between the males who complain
about the traffic as they rush to catch their trains in the morning and
the females who complain about the traffic as they run their errands
throughout suburbia.  Both sing about their desire to trade places with
their partners.   It's actually one of those songs that probably has
more relevance now than when it was released and I would love to hear
some DJ play it during the rush hour.

Vern


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bugs are Nuts!
Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:37:57 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-03 10:35:29 EDT, you write:

<< They used to be called Hi-Fi Bugs or Hi-Fi Nuts. What's wrong with those
terms? >>

Nothing, if you don't mind being called a bug or a nut.  I'm a geek and an
accumulator.  That's what I am.

Robert


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Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack,4/5/98
Date: 03 Jun 1998 18:38:38 -0700


KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
KFJC play list 4/5/98 for Jack Diamond
Http://www.KFJC.org
Sundays 10AM-1PM

 ARTIST                 TRACK                   ALBUM/ETC
 The Planets            Chunky
 Chico Hamilton Qnt     It Don't Mean a Thing   1959
 Buddy Collette         Carson Smith
 Paul Horn              Fred Katz

 Don Morrow             Like Shoemaker and the
                        Elves

 Gene Page              Satin Soul

 Dorothy Ashby          Valley of the Dolls     Cadet
                        Theme

 Pete Rugolo Orch.      Twisted Image           T-H-R-I-L-L-E-R!
 Howard Roberts         Spooky!
 Fabulous Jokers        Instant Coffee          Monument, 1966
 Charles Laughton       Dharma Bums             Kerouac
 Mort Garson            Deja Vu                 The Unexplained
 June Wilkinson         The Arm Push

 Mineo, Attileo         Science of Tomorrow     Conducts Man in Space
                                                W/Sounds

 Mineo, Attileo         Space Age World's Fair  Conducts Man in Space
                                                W/Sounds
 Elizabeth Waldo        Maracatu'               Barbary Coast
 Marty Manning Orch.    Spellbound Concerto     1960, Coloumbia
 Rod Mckuen             3 Songs for "S          Beatsville
 Phil Moore Orch. W/
 Leda Annest            Part 3                  Columbia

 Ennio Morricone        Il Serpente
                        Esplicitamente Sopeso

 Kenneth Patchen with   The Murder of 2 Men By  Cadence Label
                        A
 Chamber Jazz Sextet    Young Kid Wearing Lemon
                        Colored Gloves

 The Animated Egg       Down, Down and Gone
 Hot Club of America    Autumn Leaves           Coral
 Odonel Levy            Baaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaa    Manny Albam
 Boogaloo Joe Jones     Poppin!                 Prestige, Stereo

 Tower of Power         What Is Hip             Oakland, Ca
                        ????????????

 Average White Band     Cut the Cake
 Buddy Emmons           Linus and Lucy Medley    Rippin' Steel Guitar

 Bill Holman Orch.      The Big Street          Coral Label
 Solos By Conte Candoli Bill Holman             Richie Kamuca
 Lou Levy               Mel Lewis               Stu Williamson
 Zoot Sims              Herb Geller

 Johnny Spots           Private Ear             Heller Ferguson
 The Beatniks           Beatnik Blues           45 Rpm
 V. Balsara and His
 Singing Sitars         Yummy Yummy Yummy...    Odeon Label, 1969

 West Coast Worshop     Ding Dong the Witch Is  Prod X Nick Venet
                        Dead

 Barbarella (OST)       Hello Pretty Pretty     Barbarella
 Barbarella (OST)       Pygar's Persecution     Barbarella
 Barbarella (OST)       The Black Queen's Beads Barbarella
 Barbarella (OST)       Dead Duck               Barbarella
 Barbarella (OST)       The Pill                Barbarella
 Barbarella (OST)       Smoke (Viper Vapor)     Barbarella
 (Ltd Edition CD)

 Wendy and Bonnie(!)    It's What's Really      It Really Is!
                        Happening

 Ennio Morricone        Magia Nera              Lucio Fulci Film
 Pete Rugolo Orch       Diamond on the Move

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Subject: Re: (exotica) cd snapped in half
Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:43:11 EDT


seems like a lost cause.  i would think the crack would be like a really big
scratch and thus it would not work.  interested tho -- prove me wrong.

robert


In a message dated 98-06-03 11:50:12 EDT, you write:

<< > I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a
 > liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half?
 >

 Why not a liquid? Try superglue? If that doesn't do it, forget it.

 MO
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Subject: Re: (exotica) female nerds
Date: 03 Jun 1998 21:49:16 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-03 14:42:10 EDT, you write:

<< Geeks stay in, keep their own company.  They may communicate with other
 geeks  >>

I heard that these geeks often have their own mailing list where they go on
and on  and on about some obscure subject.  Geez . . . you would think they
would get a life.

Robert

P.S.  I played Quiet Village backwards today and I swear I can hear Martin
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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) NOT about geeks or nerds
Date: 03 Jun 1998 23:26:17 -0400


I'd like to warmly recommend the new album by Fantastic Plastic Machine,
_The Fantastic Plastic Machine_. Highlights include a bossa cover of Joe
Jackson's "Steppin' Out," guest vocals by P5's Maki Nomiya, a song in
French, mixes by Le Hammond Inferno and Maxwell Implosion, and a Piero
Piccioni cover. As you can see, it's got pretty much everything a fan of
modern easy listening would want, and of course it's from Japan.

I hear that Bungalow (which put out the record in Europe) is about to get
some kind of deal in the US. Any truth to this rumor? It'd be nice to
stop paying import prices for their excellent releases.

Also of interest, Richard Cameron, of Dutch easy aces Arling & Cameron,
will DJ in New York next week. I believe it'll be at the bar on the 107th
floor of the World Trade Center, meaning it'll be free.

Elisabeth


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From: Lia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) female nerds
Date: 04 Jun 1998 01:00:59 -0300


We do exist.

And we're cute, sexy and smart. Slightly short sighted but who cares? We're
the kind of girl you would introduce to your parents.

L.




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Subject: (exotica) Eclektronics again...
Date: 04 Jun 1998 03:05:37 EDT


Hey everybody

Here are all the contacts for distribution of the limited edition of the new
album of Jean Jacques Perrey and David Chazam "Eclektronics"

In America : [e-mail]

In Europa : [e-mail]

both are very nice people - hope you'll enjoy it !

Chz


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood
Date: 04 Jun 1998 03:40:09 -0600



>I found 3 very nice bootleg Lee Hazelwood-CDs. They're:
>
>   Love and other crimes
>
>       Poet, Fool or Bum
>
>           The Cowboy and the Ladies
>
>The label is lhi records, possibly from France.

I didn't think these were boots but actual re-releases. I haven't seen The
Cowboy though.

>To me it's still hard to understand why Lee isn't so popular. Speaking
>of Sinatra... Lee's music means much more to me. Some people say he's
>weird.

Lee=God.

Or so I think. But some people say I am weird.

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek
Date: 04 Jun 1998 03:43:28 -0600


At 10:51 03/06/98 -0400, you wrote:

>>He used some by a company called "Voice of the Theatre" or "Electro Voice" or
>>something like that.  He says the stereo equipment you made from a kit -
>>Heathkit and there were others.
>
>Our first stereo at home (that I remember) was a Heathkit that my Dad built
>and huge 4 foot speakers that he would blast thetheme from Lawrence of
>Arabia out of at a level that made you feel you were inside a Tympani drum
>to hear.

YIKES! You just brought back REALLY scary early childhood memories for me.
My dad is an engineer who decided to build and fix everytbing electrical. We
had a Heathkit TV. That thing broke every five minutes. Mind you, we had
like 4 TVs in our house (this is early 70s), and none of them worked
properly. It was especially fun when you tried to watch the Brady Bunch and
they were all green.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood
Date: 04 Jun 1998 12:09:42 +0000


> I didn't think these were boots but actual re-releases.
>
Someone told me meanwhile, it might be Lee's own label. "lhi"...lee
hazelwood international?

A friend who met Lee once told me this: At first Lee didn't want to talk
to my friend at all, waving signs of refusal when he only dared to
approach him. Only after a while when the friend of Lee's who had
introduced my friend to him said to Lee "come on Lee, these guys seem to
be OK" he would talk to them, but then he wouldn't stop and just
couldn't get enough of it.

I tried to make a film about Lee Hazelwood some years ago, put a lot of
work in it, to find him alone took me months, but in the end he
rejected, suspecting I only wanted to make money with his name.

Somebody from German TV reports that they wanted to film Lee in the 70s
and it took them 2 years to set up a contract and finally they wouldn't
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Subject: Re: (exotica) nerds etc.
Date: 04 Jun 1998 06:35:27 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-03 22:40:08 EDT, you write:

<< In Germany we still call people who are maniac experts in a thing
   "freaks". Like "Exotica-freak" or "Computer-freak".   >>

  How about "Geek-freak" -- I think I dated a few of those in college.  At
 least on the days when I got out.

  Robert "Exotica Geek Freak"



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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood
Date: 04 Jun 1998 04:40:15 PDT



>Somebody from German TV reports that they wanted to film Lee in the 70s
>and it took them 2 years to set up a contract and finally they wouldn't
>do it at all.

A friend of mine worked at the Swedish TVs videoarchive some year ago.
He had to transfer all the broadcasts from year 77 or 78 to another
format. This was apparently made in realtime, so he had to see the whole
years TV-production. (Sound like a job for me... But I had preferred
another year, earlier). Anyway, on a show this year Lee Hazelwood
performed some space songs as "the Space Cowboy". I have wanted to see
this show since he told me about it, but that geeky dweeby freaky nerd
didnt tape it while he had the chance...



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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By
Date: 04 Jun 1998 04:50:46


This tune has become one of my private manias, hence the following list of
covers from the Space Age Pop Standards site
(http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/girlwatc.htm):

Ronnie Aldrich, Two Pianos Today!, London Phase 4 SP44100
Chet Atkins, Solo Flights, RCA Victor LSP-3922
The Brass Ring, The Best of, Dunhill DS-50051
Ray Charles Singers, A Special Something, Command RS 914 SD
Ray Conniff, It Must Be Him, Columbia CS 9595
Floyd Cramer, Plays the Big Hits, RCA Camden ADL2-0128
The Bob Crewe Generation, Music to Watch Girls By, Bell SLP 9003
Xavier Cugat, The Best of, MCA MCA2-4072
Lenny Dee, Moving On, Decca DL 74880
Les and Larry Elgart, Girl Watchers, Columbia CS 9433
The Exotic Guitars, Those Were the Days, Ranwood R 8040
Benny Golson, Tune In, Turn On, Verve V6-8710
Joe Harnell, Bossa Now!, Columbia CS 9499
Al Hirt, Music to Watch Girls By, RCA Victor LSP-3773
Horst Jankowski, With Love, Mercury SR 61125
Living Marimbas, "Georgy Girl" and Other Music to Watch Girls By, RCA
Camden CAS-2149
Frank Malone, Player Piano Hits of the 60s, Alshire S-5109
Jerry Murad's Harmonicats, Great Themes from TV and Motion Pictures,
Columbia CS 9343
101 Strings, Million Seller Hits of 1967, Alshire S-5070
Peter Nero, Nero-ing in on the Hits, RCA Victor LSP-3871
Howard Roberts, Jaunty-Jolly!, Capitol ST 2716
Caterina Valente, Sweet Beat, London PS 536
Lawrence Welk, Hits of Our Time, Dot DLP25790
Andy Williams, Born Free, Columbia CS 9480
Roger Williams, Roger!, Kapp KL-1512

If you've got others, let me know.  I put a bunch of these on compilation
tape, separated with short cuts of dialogue about the relations between men
and women, and titled it, "Unoriginal Sins."  Traded one copy so far!





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Subject: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By
Date: 04 Jun 1998 04:50:46


This tune has become one of my private manias, hence the following list of
covers from the Space Age Pop Standards site
(http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/girlwatc.htm):

Ronnie Aldrich, Two Pianos Today!, London Phase 4 SP44100
Chet Atkins, Solo Flights, RCA Victor LSP-3922
The Brass Ring, The Best of, Dunhill DS-50051
Ray Charles Singers, A Special Something, Command RS 914 SD
Ray Conniff, It Must Be Him, Columbia CS 9595
Floyd Cramer, Plays the Big Hits, RCA Camden ADL2-0128
The Bob Crewe Generation, Music to Watch Girls By, Bell SLP 9003
Xavier Cugat, The Best of, MCA MCA2-4072
Lenny Dee, Moving On, Decca DL 74880
Les and Larry Elgart, Girl Watchers, Columbia CS 9433
The Exotic Guitars, Those Were the Days, Ranwood R 8040
Benny Golson, Tune In, Turn On, Verve V6-8710
Joe Harnell, Bossa Now!, Columbia CS 9499
Al Hirt, Music to Watch Girls By, RCA Victor LSP-3773
Horst Jankowski, With Love, Mercury SR 61125
Living Marimbas, "Georgy Girl" and Other Music to Watch Girls By, RCA
Camden CAS-2149
Frank Malone, Player Piano Hits of the 60s, Alshire S-5109
Jerry Murad's Harmonicats, Great Themes from TV and Motion Pictures,
Columbia CS 9343
101 Strings, Million Seller Hits of 1967, Alshire S-5070
Peter Nero, Nero-ing in on the Hits, RCA Victor LSP-3871
Howard Roberts, Jaunty-Jolly!, Capitol ST 2716
Caterina Valente, Sweet Beat, London PS 536
Lawrence Welk, Hits of Our Time, Dot DLP25790
Andy Williams, Born Free, Columbia CS 9480
Roger Williams, Roger!, Kapp KL-1512

If you've got others, let me know.  I put a bunch of these on compilation
tape, separated with short cuts of dialogue about the relations between men
and women, and titled it, "Unoriginal Sins."  Traded one copy so far!





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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Space Age Pop Standards
Date: 04 Jun 1998 05:01:56


I can't help putting in a plug, given the recent spurt of messages about
exotica standards.  If this topic doesn't bore you to tears, I invite you
to check out the Space Age Pop Standards website
(http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/), which includes an extensive
discussion and discographies of the following categories and examples of
songs that have become exotica/space age pop standards.

      The Hawaiian Number
            Hawaiian War Chant, Hawaiian Wedding Song

      The Near Eastern Number

            Misirlou
            Other examples: In a Persian Market, Calcutta, Istanbul

      The Jungle Number
            Quiet Village
            Other example: Moon of Manakoora

      The Brazilian Number
            Tico Tico
            Other examples: Brazil, Baia

      The Latin Number
            La Cucaracha
            The Peanut Vendor, Perfidia

      The European Cover Song
            Autumn Leaves
            Other examples: April in Portugal, The Poor People of Paris,
Lisbon
            Antigua, Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White

      The Classical Kitsch Song
            Baubles, Bangles, and Beads
            Other examples: Stranger in Paradise, In the Hall of the
Mountain King, Sabre Dance, Full Moon and Empty Arms

      The Foreign Film Theme
            The Third Man Theme
            Other examples: Never on Sunday, Anna, More

      The American Film Theme
            Moonglow/Theme from "Picnic"
            Other examples: Theme from "Exodus," Theme from "A Summer Place,"
            High Noon, Theme from "The High and the Mighty"

      The Sea Song
            Ebb Tide
            Other examples: Beyond the Sea, Red Sails in the Sunset, Harbor
Lights

      The R & B Number
            Harlem Nocturne, Night Train

      The Juan Tizol/Duke Ellington Song
            Caravan, Perdido

      The Ernesto Lecuona Song
            The Breeze and I
            Other examples: Jungle Drums, Malaguena, Siboney, Taboo, Babalu

      The Leroy Anderson Number
            Blue Tango
            Other examples: Fiddle-Faddle, The Syncopated Clock, Plink,
Plank, Plunk!

      The Mancini Number
            Peter Gunn
            Other examples: Moon River, Days of Wine & Roses, Baby Elephant
Walk, Mr. Lucky

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I do need to add a new category, 60s covers, which would include "Music to
Watch Girls By," Herb Alpert covers, "More," and the hands-down winner as
most-covered tune, "A Taste of Honey."

Brad Bigelow
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Alpert vs. A&M
Date: 04 Jun 1998 10:20:43 -0500


     LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Herb Alpert's dealings with his former record label
have hit a sour note, to the tune of nearly $6 million.
    The trumpeter who formerly led the Tijuana Brass claims in a lawsuit filed
with partner Jerome Moss that A&M Records and its corporate owner, Polygram,
owe them the money.
    The lawsuit accuses Polygram of shortchanging a shareholders trust set up
by the duo in 1989 -- during Polygram's buyout of their startup label -- by
$3.63 million in 1994 earnings from A&M.
    Alpert and Moss also contend that Polygram mishandled a Canadian tax refund
claim that could have added $2 million to the fund, according to the lawsuit
filed Tuesday.
    Polygram had not seen the lawsuit and could not comment, spokeswoman Dawn
Bridges said Wednesday from New York.
    A telephone call to an A&M Records spokesperson was not returned.
    Alpert, a multiple-Grammy Award winner, began his career as a songwriter
and musician in the late 1950s. His decades of instrumental hits have
included ``A Taste of Honey'' and ``Rise.''




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From: "David J. Strauss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell
Date: 04 Jun 1998 10:36:51 -0400 (EDT)



Just picked up:

Naked City: The Sound of Midnight by Paul Phillips & his Orch, arranged
and conducted by Joe Harnell on Kapp. This music is ingenously arranged,
with a darkness where you'd least expect it. Anyone know anything about
these guys?

DS
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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Montenegro
Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:55:47 -0500


>Warning to those of you who don't already know.  Do NOT purchase the
>Montenegro "Good Bad & The Ugly." It is a miss.  No where near as good as the
>original Morricone versions. Pony up the extra dough and get the real thing.



Montenegro's "Good Bad & The Ugly" is hardly a miss and people shouldnt
be discouraged to get it (unless of couse it's outrageously priced).

 Yes, it doesn't quite match Morricone's original score but a lot of the
charm of the records of this time period is how they attempted to copy
someones style but didn't quite pull it off.Compared to some of
Morricone's Time recordings this one fares much better.

Which reminds me... I have a duplicate copy of Montenegro's incredible
"Come Spy With Me" that I'd be willing to trade. It's one of a huge "for
trade" list that I will be posting exclusively to this group. I plan to
list what I'm looking for and what I have to offer.
It may still take a few weeks for me to get it together, I just wanted to
throw out a little teaser right now.

Frank

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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick
Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:55:52 -0500


>This brings up something that I assume someone here could clear up for me.
>WHAT DID ENOCH LIGHT REALLY DO?  What role did he play on these records?


Any Enoch Light question can be answered by checking out Robbie Baldock's
Enoch website:

Http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light


I've found this source invaluable for bio info and especially a Command
discography which has been helpful in my goal of finding all of them. (so
far 90 and, counting)


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By
Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:55:42 -0500


>Subject:     (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By

>If you've got others, let me know.  I put a bunch of these on compilation
>tape, separated with short cuts of dialogue about the relations between men
>and women, and titled it, "Unoriginal Sins."  Traded one copy so far!

The Ventures - $1,000,000 weekend  Liberty 8054
Willie Bobo - Juicy - Verve 8685
Dave Fredricks - Bold Brave Organ Extravaganza - Gulco

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist for Jack,4/5/98
Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:55:50 -0500


>
> Wendy and Bonnie(!)    It's What's Really      It Really Is!
>                        Happening


I love seeing that someone else has discovered this Wendy & Bonnie album.

Does any one know any thing about them aside from the info on this Skye
record?

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From: Sevo Stille <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By as top ten exotica tune
Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:12:41 +0200




Nat Kone wrote:

> It's interesting to think about WHY these tunes showed up on record after
> record, what was it about these tunes that they appealed to that audience
> or at least why the record producers assumed they would.
> The producers might have done these tunes because they THOUGHT they
> couldn't ruin them but the idea that we the audience automatically agree
> with them... well it's thinking like that, that produces Celine Dion.

Well, I rather think it is a question of "standards" - most of the titles on
the original posting do qualify as big band standards, titles that used to be
played by every band in their time, and are accordingly very loosely or not at
all linked to one particular artist or band. Appearently, hits of the age when
a composition and its arrangement and interpretation were not so firmly
entangled as it is now (and has been ever since the fifties/sixties) fare
better across different arrangements than more recent stuff - maybe, because
they were written that way (or rather made it into an evergreen because they
survived so many different arrangements), maybe, because we've been subjected
to so many different interpretations of these compositions that we have come to
like the actual tune rather than the one and only true interpretation as we
usually do with songs more firmly linked to one particular artist.

Sevo

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From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) fwd: Coney Island Parade UPDATE
Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:56:36 GMT


CONEY ISLAND MERMAID PARADE committee chooses official King Neptune
--musician DAVID BYRNE, formerly of the Talking Heads.

Past Kings have included TV Talker Joe Franklin and NYC Parks
Commissioner Henry Stern. The Queen will be selected soon.

The parade is scheduled for June 27, 1998. There will be OPEN TO THE
PUBLIC contests for best parade entries including for Best Mermaid.
Actresses, Actors and Models invited to enter. March with your friends
or march alone. To join other Actors Email to
[e-mail].

 For more information about the parade and for a photo from a previous
parade go to:
< http://www.coneyislandusa.com> and
<http://www.buzznyc.com/actors/res.normandeau.raymond.html>



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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Re: Lee Hazlewood
Date: 04 Jun 1998 14:14:06 -0400


>To me it's still hard to understand why Lee isn't so popular.

It's because it is very hard to track down his records anywhere.  Those
CDs seem to be the only ones in existence, and all over the world they
are sold at import prices.

Aside from 'nancy and lee', I own just two records - 'the very special
world of Lee Hazlewood' and 'trouble is a lonesome town'.  Both are
excellent.  I assume there is some kind of rights issue preventing an
official CD release.  Or perhaps Lee isn't too bothered (LHI on the
offical records stands for Lee Hazlewood industries, so I think he may
owns the rights).
regards

Jonny

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) exotica standards
Date: 04 Jun 1998 14:09:05 -0400


Nat wrote:
>You see those tunes on a record and your reaction is what?  "Oh this is
>certainly good!"

Not necessarily good, but probably something I would like to hear.
...
>... well it's thinking like that, that produces Celine Dion

If Celine Dion put an album out with 'Caravan', 'Frenesi' etc on it, I
would definitely buy it.  I love inappropriate seeming cover versions,
and the strength of the song often shines through.  A lot of those Disco
versions of standards come to mind - anyone hear Gloria Gaynor's 'How
high the moon' and the Ritchie Family's 'Quiet Village' and 'the peanut
vendor'?

Incidentally, LAURA is unquestionably my favorite standard.  I whistle it
and sing it all the time, and it makes me cry like a deranged baby.
Sometimes I'm not all that much fun to be around.  I would appreciate it
if anyone who has a special favorite version of Laura could email me
privately with it.

regds
Jonny

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Richard Cameron
Date: 04 Jun 1998 14:27:00 -0400


Elisabeth wrote:
>Also of interest, Richard Cameron, of Dutch easy aces Arling & Cameron,
>will DJ in New York next week. I believe it'll be at the bar on the
107th
>floor of the World Trade Center, meaning it'll be free.

Yes, he is spinning on Wednesday at the WTC, and on Thursday at Bar d'O,
on the corner of Bedford and Downing streets in NYC.  Both nights are
free.

This is from http://www.inhi-fi.com/nyc/nyc-hom.htm

>Updates to the Richard Cameron and Karin New York appearance: Not only
will >Richard and Karin be in town, but Berlin's Maxwell Implosion will
be sharing the bill >at both Mondo 107 (Wednesday, 10 June) and In Hi-Fi
(Thursday, 11 June).áá

regards

Jonny

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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) exotica standards
Date: 04 Jun 1998 15:32:59 -0400


> If Celine Dion put an album out with 'Caravan', 'Frenesi' etc on it, I
> would definitely buy it.  I love inappropriate seeming cover versions,

I am with you!

Lemon Tree - V. Balsara and his Singing Sitar
Waltzing Matilda - Thomas Dissevelt and his Sounds from Space

As for Caravan, there is always Johnny Mathis' vocal version from his first
album, which was a surprise to me considering my general disdain for Mathis
(My mother had nine of his albums and it drove me nuts!)

Brian "putting down that valve trombone" Phillips




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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) cd snapped in half
Date: 04 Jun 1998 21:05:15 +0100



> I know you folks like to experiment, but has anyone got a solution (not a
> liquid, wiseguys) for playing a cd that's been snapped clean in half?
>
>
> Why not a liquid? Try superglue? If that doesn't do it, forget it.

I'd be inclined to get a spare CD (e.g. one of those 'free 30 hours AOL'
giveaways) and superglue the broken CD onto it.  Take care not to get
glue into the crack, so that the cracked edges mate together as closely
as possible.  However, check your CD player first to make sure it can
cope with the double thickness of CD.

What CD was it, anyhow?  Is it worth saving?
"Kenny G plays Kenny Rogers"?

Hugh.


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From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) look out bank account
Date: 04 Jun 1998 13:26:13 -0700


long email alert!  the list-maker insists that i break down what's covered.
so, in today's episode, we've got:

> a thanks
> various influences and likes
> what a great URL!
> the thrill of LP hunting

so, at your own risk...

well, first off, big cheers to everyone who offered suggestions and
favorites for my freshman ears.  Some of you asked what aspect of exotica i
thought i'd like to really explore, which led me to think about the stuff i
already know about...

now perhaps some of the things i like would not really fit into this
overall genre, but i think they do.  I like swanky bossa nova cocktail
loungy songs, like connie francis' "bossa nova hand dance."  I love the
soundtracks to late 50s and early 60s UFO/nuclear/monster/space movies. (In
fact, I've got this dream where i find a narrated "space invaders" story on
vinyl, complete with incredible artwork... does this exist?!?)

I like the sultry sound of Antonio Carlos Jobim.  oh, and the cheeky
tikiness of those "let's through a luau" albums I keep finding in thrift
stores.  I'd really like to learn more about early synthesized music, too.
The first forays into the moog world, for instance.  Oh, and 60s french
loungepop... is that considered exotica?

Oh, and i'm totally bowled over by the Space Age Pop Standards website!!
So much stuff!  Will i ever catch up ;)      On it, i read about "The In Sound
from Way Out", by Jean-Jacques Perrey and Gershon Kingsley.  What sort of
sub-genre would you describe this as?  From the description, i think i'd
really like it.

Another common question was "do you collect vinyl or cds or both?"  I
really love vinyl, and even more, i love the hunt.  I like the process of
picking up a stack of dusty records, which are almost surely going to
contain 5 copies of tito jackson's greatest hits, and spotting something
fantastic.  I guess anyone who's into used-stuff hunting (antiques, vintage
clothes, 50s dinnerware etc) knows this feeling!

Of course, my mac doesn't have a built-in LP drive, so cds are great too.
It's just that sometimes, when i see those comps, i feel sort of cheated.
it's like there's some marketing guy somewhere, who knows that the right
ratio of martini glasses, leopard prints and cool fonts will say "hey, you!
over here! you're going to like me! I'm cool!"

Alright, but i'm rambling.  If anyone has more useful links i should check
out, by all means.... and please, keep those suggestions coming.  my "to
buy" list is growing every hour!

thanks a mil,

jasmine




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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Schmeed, Dee and Dick
Date: 04 Jun 1998 23:09:29 +0000


Nat Kone enquired:

> This brings up something that I assume someone here could clear up
> for me.

I guess that ought to be me!

> WHAT DID ENOCH LIGHT REALLY DO?  What role did he play on
> these records?

Well, he *produced* them!  I know his actual input on "his" records
often appears somewhat ethereal but essentially he was the propelling
force behind each LP project.  More specifically, the impression I
get from having spoken to some of the musicians who worked with him
is that he:

- came up with the initial concept or theme for an album,
- put the orchestra or ensemble together,
- choose the arranger,
- laid out some general requirements for the arranger.  Although
the details of these requirements would vary from LP to LP (being
largely a reflection of the theme of the album: bossa, discotheque,
"exotica" etc) there would always be common elements, usually
something like: "I want an instrumentation and arrangement which
really puts our hi-fi bugs' ;-) equipment to the test*.  We're also
going to put half the orchestra on the left channel and the rest on
the right - but you don't worry about that too much...!  Oh, and make
it *FUN*!"
- chose the recording engineer,
- oversaw the recording process (sometimes even leading the orchestra
through a take and then letting the arranger take over)
- choose the cover artist,
- chose someone to write those killer liner notes(!),
- oversaw the marketing and distribution of the records.  In the
early days he physically took records around to outlets and hi-fi
fairs,
- and, er, basically was involved in all the other processes involved
the chain of events from coming up with the idea for an album to
selling the finished product.

* - the main reason percussion features so strongly in all Enoch's
recordings is that in the early days of music recording it was a
section of the orchestra which was notoriously difficult to capture
because it required the recording medium to be able to handle the
extremes of frequency: from deep resonating gongs and marimbas to the
ultra high tinking of finger cymbals and xylophones.  It was a great
way for Enoch to show off the quality of his recording engineers and
disc cutters.

<PLUG>You can get an even better idea of how he worked by reading the
various interviews on the Spaced Out site.</PLUG>

Enoch Light rarely if ever arranged any of the records himself but I
believe he did play on at least one: he was formerly a violinist and
I believe he plays on the "Million Dollar Sound of the World's Most
Precious Violins" albums.  He also co-wrote several pieces (usually
with Lew Davies) - most notably the entire contents of Paperback
Ballet / Private Life of a Private Eye.

> On Persuasive volume 2, it's Terry Snyder and the All stars but it's
> "produced by Enoch Light".  On volume three and four, Terry is gone
> and now it's "Originated and produced by Enoch Light".

I believe Terry sadly died quite young which explains his sudden
disappearance from the discographies.  I believe Brad Bigelow has a
Terry Snyder biography on his site:
http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm

Phew!  Hope this helps.


Robbie

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lee Hazlewood
Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:35:35 -0400


At 02:14 PM 04/06/98 -0400, Jonathan M Perl wrote:
>
>>To me it's still hard to understand why Lee isn't so popular.
>
>It's because it is very hard to track down his records anywhere.

Are you guys really asking this question seriously?
I personally love the Nancy and Lee record and even the infinitely inferior
Ann Margaret and Lee record but I almost never think that my loving
something has any relationship to it being popular or deserving to be popular.
And I know that my loving the Nancy and Lee record originates in my
"perverse taste", not in the part of my taste that has it's finger on the
pulse of the nation.

Maybe he's not more popular because too many people heard the Nancy and Lee
version of "You've lost that lovin feeling" and took it back to the store
complaining that there's something wrong with the record because it seems
to run too slow.  In fact on one song, it seems that the record actually
stops spinning altogether.

"Woe woe woe..."  Pick it up Lee, there's still another verse.

Why isn't Lee Hazelwood more popular?  I don't know.  Why did "Ordinary
People" win the Oscar for Best Picture the same year "Raging Bull" came out?

Nat



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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica standards
Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:38:27 -0400


At 03:32 PM 04/06/98 -0400, Brian Phillips wrote:
>
>> If Celine Dion put an album out with 'Caravan', 'Frenesi' etc on it, I
>> would definitely buy it.  I love inappropriate seeming cover versions,
>
>I am with you!

I'm not sure what the question is at this point but hell, let's add
Killdozer's version of "I am I said".

Nat



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Subject: (exotica) Re: Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell
Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:59:38 -0500 (CDT)


>Naked City: The Sound of Midnight by Paul Phillips & his Orch, arranged
>and conducted by Joe Harnell on Kapp. This music is ingenously arranged,
>with a darkness where you'd least expect it. Anyone know anything about
>these guys?


there is a 'sequal' to that LP called "The Sound of The Asphalt Jungle" by
Joe Harnell (Kapp/Medallion 7518) which is also very good.  watch for
either...  gotta have both!

 - kini




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell
Date: 04 Jun 1998 17:49:41 +0000


At 10:36 AM 6/4/98 -0400, David Strauss wrote:
>Naked City: The Sound of Midnight by Paul Phillips & his Orch, arranged
>and conducted by Joe Harnell...
Joe Harnell is mainly known as a pianist who does pop tunes.  In the 80's
he was a community concert artist...maybe he still is.  That's about all I
know.

Byron

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Neat Art Pieces
Date: 04 Jun 1998 22:30:42 -0400


A few weeks ago I was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and saw an EXCELLENT
exhibit titled "It's Only Rock and Roll" at the Milwaukee Museum which
featured rock and roll themes in modern art.

Exotic slant?  One of the exhibits was a huge painting, over 6 feet
square, by Jim Butler that was a recreation of Herb Alpert's 'Whipped
Cream' album....but what I really want to mention is another work by an
artist named Helen Cohen titled "G.E. Solid Sate Stereo"

She took an old old portable stereo from the 60's (the kind where the
speakers attach to the side and the turntable flips down from the
middle) and rigged it so it was ALMOST in the closed position with about
a one inch gap at the top.  If you looked inside, it was dark, but if
you looked inside WHILE pushing a button, one could see by peering in
the gap an entire miniaturized diorama of a typical hippie bedroom from
the late 60's.  There were day-glo peace posters on the wall, American
flags being used for curtains, lava lamps, an unmade bed lying on the
floor, brick + 2x8 wood shelving, and even a miniaturized version of the
actual size stereo one was looking through.

The whole scene was lit up by a blacklight to create that essential glow
and I almost forgot to mention that as one pushes the button and peers
through the crack to view this scene, the song In-a-gadda-da-vida is
being played.

Definitely the most inspirational piece of art I've seen in a while, but
then again I'm biased because I have a very similar G.E. stereo that I
play my own records on.

Evidently, Helen Cohen also did a piece called "Ivory Plastic Radio"
which she turned into a miniature tableau of 1950's decor.

Vern


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Subject: (exotica) Best Martini Shaker
Date: 04 Jun 1998 22:36:39 -0400


Another interesting find, in downtown Milwaukee, is a bar called
the Safehouse. The whole theme is secret agent-James Bondish and though
the place is somewhat touristy, they do have the greatest martini shaker
I've ever seen.

The bartender mixes the ingredients and places it in a seal-tight
container which is then placed in a clear plastic tube.  This tube is
one of those pneumatic pressure devices that work on the same principle
as the drive-through banks where you place your money/paperwork in a
container and air-pressure delivers it between the teller and you (in
the car)

Anyway, the martini ends up being routed through a clear tubing that
goes around the entire ceiling of the multi-roomed bar.  As it whips
along the ceiling various sensors detect its passage and lights flash
noises go off and a doll at the bar flashes itself. It ends up back at
the bar where it completes its "shaken not stirred" trip.

My only complaint? when I ordered it (in the afternoon)the bartender
didn't know how to either operate it or mix the ingredients so I never
did get to see the drink in action.

Vern


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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to Watch Girls By
Date: 04 Jun 1998 22:47:30 -0400


I just got Walter Wanderley's _Talkin' Verve_ (on Verve, duh) and it
features a version of "Music to Watch Girls By".

Elisabeth


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Richard Cameron
Date: 04 Jun 1998 19:47:26 -0400


At 2:27 PM -0400 6/4/98, Jonathan M Perl wrote:
>Elisabeth wrote:
>>Also of interest, Richard Cameron, of Dutch easy aces Arling & Cameron,
>>will DJ in New York next week. I believe it'll be at the bar on the
>107th
>>floor of the World Trade Center, meaning it'll be free.
>
>Yes, he is spinning on Wednesday at the WTC, and on Thursday at Bar d'O,

Richard & Karin, plus Gerry Arling and Maxwell Implosion will be in Boston
on this trip as well. They'll be at my "Swank" party (Wednesday's @ Bill's
Bar & Lounge, 5 1/2 Landsdowne St, in the shadow of Fenway Park, 9PM-2AM)
on June 17th. They are also appearing in Los Angeles over the weekend of
the 12th-14th, but I can't tell you where.

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Stereo Geek Dad replies....
Date: 05 Jun 1998 01:46:46 EDT


Hey everybody:

All these messages about the old stereo equipment - I've been forwarding them
to my dad and he has finally repsonded.  Now hope know one is going to fly off
the handle and write my dad a nasty note, but I thought I'd let you all read
what he has to say thus far:

<<Subj:     Re: (exotica) My dad was a stereo geek

listen the word is audiophile not geek. so far I think this crowd needs
education. for example the person who bought a used telephonkin This is
junk. Isn't this Mike's old field? There still are quality stores out there
that sell quality equipment you have to be willing to shell out the bucks.
The British make some wounderful equipment but an amp runs around $3000.00.
Also, Natural  sound comes from large cones and big boxes. They don't fit
apartments. and so there is no market. By the way, my speakers were
ElectroVoice not Altec Lansing. Gordon had the Altec Lansing voice of the
theater.>>

Well, that's the word from the geek - oops! I mean audiophile himself.

- Michele


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Subject: (exotica) Re: Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell
Date: 05 Jun 1998 00:44:08 -0500 (CDT)


i will also add, that "Naked City" features probably my personal all-time
favorite version of "Harlem Nocturne."  Dark and different.  It's on one of
my recent radio shows which will hopefully soon be up on my site in
RealAudio for all to enjoy.

Joe Harnell also released some generic bossa nova LPs on which there are a
few gems; in particular, a really nice version of "My One and Only Love"
and what i think was a fairly popular version of "Fly Me to the Moon."

 - king kini


>>Naked City: The Sound of Midnight by Paul Phillips & his Orch, arranged
>>and conducted by Joe Harnell on Kapp. This music is ingenously arranged,
>>with a darkness where you'd least expect it. Anyone know anything about
>>these guys?
>
>
>there is a 'sequal' to that LP called "The Sound of The Asphalt Jungle" by
>Joe Harnell (Kapp/Medallion 7518) which is also very good.  watch for
>either...  gotta have both!




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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Stereo Geek Dad replies....
Date: 05 Jun 1998 02:02:05 -0500


I guess our venture into *geek* terminology was all for not. It's obvious
that Michele's dad is a stereo SNOB.

Frank ( the piece of junk Telefunken owner)





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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lee Hazlewood
Date: 05 Jun 1998 02:15:10 EDT


In a message dated 6/4/98 6:37:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> Ann Margaret and Lee record

Hold on a second. I love the Nancy and Lee record. What's this about an Ann
Margaret and Lee record??? My God I've never even heard of that, but I've
gotta hear it. Please fill us in on the details!

Larry


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lee Hazelwood
Date: 05 Jun 1998 09:28:05 +0000


For Nat:

I know that quality alone doesn't mean you're gonna be successful. But
as for the songs that Lee wrote, they're really made for big success and
some are evergreens still today. And he was part of a scene that was
opinion leader in it's own field. Still, contrary to Frank Sinatra, Lee
Hazelwood always seemed to remain in the obscure for the masses and I
guess it has something to do with the way he presented ( or not
presented) himself to the public. Which I couldn't tell, because I
didn't grow up in America. It may be a case like Dieter Bohlen, a German
Disco/Pop Writer of the 80s, who was incredibly successful with his
songs, and the songs were really good, but nobody liked him. Because he
was such an asshole in interviews. So! That was what my question was
about. I think Lee himself thaught he was underrated and "nobody
understood his songs", as was stated in one Nancy and Lee song on the
"Nancy and Lee Again"-album.

For SLarry:

The Lee Hazelwood AnnMargret record has a really nice cover, on the
inside you see them naked, Lee carries a huge gun to cover his dingdong,
but the music is soso... still a collector's item to possess...

MO



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From: "Dick Diablo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) geeks/pop culture
Date: 05 Jun 1998 00:50:18 -0400


For those who are interested, I just read an interesting essay on geekness
and pop culture at http://www.wired.com/news/news/wiredview/story/12686.html
. Here's an excerpt:
"...the term geek has come to mean something ... assertive, and increasingly
positive. To me, it captures one of the lodestone spirits visible on many
parts of the Web: The experience of the brainy, idiosyncratic, out-of-sync
outsider who suddenly finds himself or herself on the inside, communicating
and messaging..."

Sound familiar?

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lee Hazlewood
Date: 05 Jun 1998 05:03:12 -0400


At 02:15 AM 05/06/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>In a message dated 6/4/98 6:37:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
>writes:
>
>> Ann Margaret and Lee record
>
>Hold on a second. I love the Nancy and Lee record. What's this about an Ann
>Margaret and Lee record??? My God I've never even heard of that, but I've
>gotta hear it. Please fill us in on the details!

It's called "The Cowboy and the Lady"
And as reported, it's gatefold and the inside picture has them "naked" but
not showing anything.
They do some country "classics" like "Break my mind" and "Only mama that'll
walk the line" and "Dark End of the Street".  They also do a Tom Rush song
"No regrets".
It's very similar to the Nancy and Lee record I have but for some
mysterious reason, it's not nearly as good.  Maybe I should put the word
"good" in quotation marks.
It lacks the "magic" of Nancy and Lee and it's not because Ann can't sing
as well as Nancy because well... the mind boggles at the very idea.
Lee produced it of course.
I occasionally put a song on a tape.
The last few lines of the liner notes seem unusually honest.
"Here lie the results.  Some good, some bad and some more".
Interesting to hear it's a collector's item.  I hope that doesn't make me a
collector.

Nat

Well it's a similar sounding record except it's gatefold and inside there's
the same picture of them as on the outside except... better sit down,
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood
Date: 05 Jun 1998 11:37:14 +0000


> The last few lines of the liner notes seem unusually honest.
> "Here lie the results.  Some good, some bad and some more".
>
Speaking of linernotes. Everything I read by Hazelwood is simply the
best of linernotes ever. Like on the Nancy&Lee album. That's what I'd
define as "cool".

Anybody seen any good linernotes anywhere?

MO



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood
Date: 05 Jun 1998 03:59:15 -0600


At 11:37 05/06/98 +0000, you wrote:
>
>> The last few lines of the liner notes seem unusually honest.
>> "Here lie the results.  Some good, some bad and some more".
>>
>Speaking of linernotes. Everything I read by Hazelwood is simply the
>best of linernotes ever. Like on the Nancy&Lee album. That's what I'd
>define as "cool".


I've got to agree with this one. There are so many reasons why Lee is class.
His lyrics are incredibly twisted. "You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin'"
definitely sounds like Nancy & Lee are on quaaludes. As well as on "Got It
Together Again" on "Did You Ever?" Lee's solo stuff has many moments of
brilliance and strangeness. I've heard a lot of positive things about the
groups he has produced, but apparently these records are fairly impossible
to find. As for the Lee and Ann Margaret LP, honestly, it is really for the
hardcore fan. Lee has a fair few unshining moments and I would say this is
one of them. So if you are a Lee novice, be careful on what you pick up. If
you EVER see any of his LPs cheap, fair chance you should buy 'em as all are
pretty darn hard to find (mind you, the LEe and Ann LP is probably the one
I've seen the most after his stuff with Nancy!)and even if you hated them,
they would probably fetch a good price. But he has done a lot of pretty
lousy things since he's moved to Sweden, and the guy has a ton of LPs out so
buyer beware.

AND if anyone knows where I can find a copy of "Trouble is a Lonesome Town"
or "Friday's Child" by Lee, please let me know as they are the two I'm still
trying to find!

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Subject: (exotica) seen any good linernotes
Date: 05 Jun 1998 03:04:46 -0800



>Anybody seen any good linernotes anywhere?


Sinatra.

By Stan Cornyn, The Reprise albums' liners.

The topper; his liners for 'Softly, As I Leave You'.

Worth the price of admission alone.


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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Terry Snyder/Joe Harnell
Date: 05 Jun 1998 04:43:07


Just a correction to Robbie Baldock's post--the Terry Snyder bio is
available at:

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/snyder.htm

I moved the Exotica Standards site from Netrail to Earthlink and renamed it
to the Space Age Pop Standards site about a year ago.  After which some big
ISP bought Netrail--coincidence or conspiracy??

Also in reply to the earlier question, Joe Harnell is still around and
playing and working in television.  He had a huge hit in the early 1960s
with a bossa nova-flavored cover of "Fly Me to the Moon," which was put out
on a Kapp album of the same name that shows up fairly often on the thrift
store circuit.  He bounced around labels, including Colubmia and Motown, as
a pop pianist, usually backed with his own lush orchestral arrangements.
His "Bossa Now!" album on Columbia is worth looking for for Vinnie Bell's
work on a variety of electric string instruments, including his own
invention, the "bellzukie."  Joe worked steadily in TV through the 70s and
80s, penning such noteworthy items as the theme to "The Hulk."

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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Good liner notes
Date: 05 Jun 1998 08:43:59 -0400


John Coltrane's A Love Supreme is as good as John Coltrane and Johnny
Hartman is silly.

There is an album of Miles Davis's that goes on for a long while and the
last sentence is
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Subject: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned...(somewhat long.  Consider the source)
Date: 05 Jun 1998 10:10:20 -0400


Regarding "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin", I went back to the book sale and the LP
was still there, so I picked it up and am now enjoying it.  Thanks to all
for the recommendations, although I must include a note of sadness, for King
Kini recommended it highly.  This is sad because he has a picture of it on
his site and:

1. His is a Living Stereo copy; mine is mono, which I don't mind so much
as...
2. The fact his is in better condition; mine is rather faded.

Not a loud complaint, for the record is in fine condition.  I just hate to
see good deeds go unrecognized, so to all of you who said (to a person!) go
and get it,  Thank you, thank you, thank you and thank you!

I just got back from Maui.  I did not mention it to all of you, for I KNEW I
wasn't going to see Arthur Lyman, however two things happened while I was
there:

1.  Asking about Lyman's records registered a surprising amount of blank
stares there, save a few people, including the fellow at the thrift store
who asked, "Lyman?  Wow, are you from Hawaii?  Yes, I have a record of his
for ten bucks behind the counter...hmmm...let's see, oh, must've sold it."
So no Taboo for me!  As a matter of fact I STILL own no Lyman, dagnabbit.
If I go there again, I will see Lyman.

So I had to comfort myself with a very good condition copy of Fireworks by
Billy Mure, which I paid the princely sum of 52 cents.

I remember a recent discussion of Mure on the list, however, I do not recall
the specifics.  I must confess (donning my flame-proof grass skirt), I was
not bowled over by this record.  There are two great cuts, Firecrackers is
my favorite (Shockwave people can hear this at
http://www.junkradio.com/junkradio/october/index.html however, the rest of
the album is less lively than the cover implies.  Perhaps a second listening
will help.

2.  Yes, I got a tiki.  At the Old Lahaina Luau.  The four piece band, Bass,
Steel Guitar, Guitar, Ukelele, was fantastic!

What do others think of "Fireworks"? is the preceding album of his bettter?

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica standards
Date: 05 Jun 1998 09:07:15 -0400


>> If Celine Dion put an album out with 'Caravan', 'Frenesi' etc on it, I
>> would definitely buy it.  I love inappropriate seeming cover versions,
>
>I am with you!

>>I'm not sure what the question is at this point but hell, let's add
>>Killdozer's version of "I am I said".
>>
>>Nat

Yes, honestly.

I'm up for it.  Hope they do 'sweet caroline' as well...

Jonny

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Subject: Re: (exotica) seen any good linernotes
Date: 05 Jun 1998 10:53:12 EDT


The coolest liner notes ever, regardless of whether you love or loathe the
album or performer, are the liner notes on the album "Happiness is Dean
Martin".

I don't have the record here with me but will transcribe them if there is any
interest on the list. They are titled Dean Martin:L'Objet de Pop Art. and
discuss such topics as EPIC SLOTH.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned...(somewhat
Date: 05 Jun 1998 08:51:25 PDT



I have 3 of Mure's lps: Fireworks, Hawaiian Percussion and A split that
he is on with another more tradtional sounding Hawaiian band whose name
escapes me. I really have favorite tracks, rather than a favorite lp.
What I like about Mure is the curious sort of "lounge-a-billy" sound of
his livelier tunes (although I like the less r&r flavored tracks as
well). If you're after blistering guitar work, shun Mure, Caiola,
Strange, Mottola's Guitar Underground, ... and seek out Joe Maphis,
early Roy Clark, other non "exotic" types.

I too would like to know how other Mure titles compare to or excel those
I have mentioned.

bw
I remember a recent discussion of Mure on the list, however, I do not
recall
the specifics.  I must confess (donning my flame-proof grass skirt), I
was
not bowled over by this record.  There are two great cuts, Firecrackers
is
my favorite however, the rest of
the album is less lively than the cover implies.  Perhaps a second
listening
will help.
>What do others think of "Fireworks"? is the preceding album of his
bettter?


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Subject: (exotica) Jack "Bongo" Burger
Date: 05 Jun 1998 11:57:29 -0400



I've bought several of the HiFi/Rykodisc compilations which feature
outstanding tracks by Jack "Bongo" Burger. Does anyone have info as to
whether or not a full-length cd of Mr Burger's music is available (or
forthcoming)?

Allan


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Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned.
Date: 05 Jun 1998 12:26:54 -0400


At 08:51 AM 05/06/98 PDT, Ben Waugh wrote:
>
>
>I have 3 of Mure's lps: Fireworks, Hawaiian Percussion and A split that
>he is on with another more tradtional sounding Hawaiian band whose name
>escapes me.

Could it be Hawaaian Moods with Luke Leilani on the other side?

. If you're after blistering guitar work, shun Mure, Caiola,
>Strange, Mottola's Guitar Underground, ... and seek out Joe Maphis,
>early Roy Clark, other non "exotic" types.

This kind of stuns me.  I have a double album of non-blistering Joe Maphis
too.  And plenty blistering from all the non-blisterers mentioned, with the
possible exception of Strange.  Nobody's looking for Mr.Mure to do a 15
minute solo on "I'm Coming Home" are they?
(Which in turn reminds me of Love Sculpture's "Sabre Dance".  Was that Rory
Gallagher?)
I don't think blistering is the point.  It's good vs.boring.  Alive vs.asleep.

>>I too would like to know how other Mure titles compare to or excel those
>I have mentioned.

There's a blistering cut on "Around the world in Percussion".
Well not blistering exactly.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned.
Date: 05 Jun 1998 12:49:49 -0500


At 12:26 PM 6/5/98 -0400, Nat Kone wrote:
>(Which in turn reminds me of Love Sculpture's "Sabre Dance".  Was that Rory
>Gallagher?)

Dave Edmunds

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From: the_curator <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: cd snapped in half
Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:49:36 +0000


Folks

thanks for all the suggestions ... tried everything, unfortunately it was
too far gone, so i put it on a little boat doused it in lighter fuel and
sent it on a long journey to the bargain bin in the sky

=sniff=

Sem Sinatra

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) exotica art
Date: 05 Jun 1998 10:23:36 -0700


I just picked up a painting by Xavier Cugat at a Flea Market about a month
ago. It is such a cool piece. It can add a whole new dimension when
submerging yourself into the world of "exotica". Sitting down on the couch,
listening to Tico Tico with a cocktail in hand while glancing up at the
painting. Ahhh..that's clean living.

Anyway, Cugie took up painting as a full-time hobby in the early 70's and
came out with a large assortment of "comedy" paintings using themes as
religion, medicine and politics. My painting is of a monk carrying a
Playboy magazine. For an example of what his paintings look like, check out
one at the following URL (http://www.taiga.com/~paul/TSA1.HTM)  I highly
recommend picking up his work now as the prices are still reasonable.

Does anyone know of other exoticats that took up painting as a hobby? I
heard rumor that Les Baxter did, but others would know better than I..   It
would be great to see just how talented some of these musicians were in
fields other than music.

Doug

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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Stan Cornyn
Date: 05 Jun 1998 13:35:49 Pacific Daylight Time


Hello All.

I've been a new member for just a short time, but this group has been really great. Most everybody seems to
know what they are talking about.

My two cents: I'm a collector, not a geek/freak/nerd or whatever. My girlfriend is a collectrix. Not bad, eh?

Lee Hazelwood was/is a great songwriter, but I will say that a few of his songs and recordings are terrible
mistakes, but then again I could say that for almost every other singer/songwriter. There is a Lee Hazelwood
sight with a lot of big fans, for anyone who is interested. My favorite Hazelwood song is "Sam Hall", and it
goes, "My name is Sam Hall, and I hates you, one and all"......Ann-Margret in her autobiography wrote that
she thought the Cowboy And The Lady Lp worked out very well. "Did You Ever", the Nancy/Lee hit was a
#2 song in the U.K. in 1971 or 1972. The Album, when released there, was called "Did You Ever"...

I agree. Some of the very best liner notes were by Stan Cornyn, who wrote for the Warner/Reprise artists.
My all-time favorite notes are for Nancy Sinatra's "Boots" album. But, the liner notes from Johnny Cash's
Folsom Prison LP are great too. He won a grammy for them.

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From: dan hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Fantastic Plastic Machine
Date: 05 Jun 1998 18:47:46 +0100


>I'd like to warmly recommend the new album by Fantastic Plastic Machine,
>_The Fantastic Plastic Machine_. Highlights include a bossa cover of Joe
>Jackson's "Steppin' Out," guest vocals by P5's Maki Nomiya, a song in
>French, mixes by Le Hammond Inferno and Maxwell Implosion, and a Piero
>Piccioni cover. As you can see, it's got pretty much everything a fan of
>modern easy listening would want, and of course it's from Japan.

hi ... scuse the blatent plug, but we've got a review of Fantastic Plastic
Machine, and a Bungalow records compilation "Suite 98" which is equally
fantastic (plastic) at the motion reviews page:

http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/

other reviews of possible interest to 'exoticas' include the Leaf Label
compilation "Classic Plant" (CD/vinyl features the Sons of Silence classic
"A Grain Of Sand"), Komeda, and Jimmy Smith/Lalo Schifrin's "The Cat" CD
reissue ... as well as the Arto Lindsay profile, and oh, well, lots of
other stuff....

as i say, please 'scuse the shameless self-promotion - thought you might be
interested ...

ciao,
dan.

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From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Whistling in Vegas
Date: 05 Jun 1998 10:51:59 -0700


Just got back from several days in Las Vegas and what a drag it was to hear
Phil Collins/Mariah Carey type music blaring in all the casinos.  A
completely oppressive experience.

BUT, the MGM Grand was piping a series of whistling tunes out to the
sidewalk.  Really nice stuff, but I didn't have time to ask what it was.
Anybody know what they're playing?

Thanks,

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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Funk)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood
Date: 05 Jun 1998 09:51:42 -1000



>AND if anyone knows where I can find a copy of "Trouble is a Lonesome Town"
>or "Friday's Child" by Lee, please let me know as they are the two I'm still
>trying to find!
>
>Jill "Mingo-go"

I'm thinking a performance of "Friday's Child" is on the recently reissued
"Movin' With Nancy" CD on the SunDazed label. I have it at home. It's the
soundtrack to the Nancy Sinatra TV Special (1967?) of the same name. I
found it at Border's for about $11. Also has "Some Velvet...<mind blank>"
and "Jackson" as duets with Nancy and Lee, as well as Lee's tune "This
Town".  Very peppy rendition of "Up, Up and Away", and dad Frank doin' a
nice "Younger Than Springtime" solo.

And speaking of "This Town", I believe this is the only Lee Hazlewood song
her daddy Frank ever sang, and it's surprisingly very cool. I think it can
be found on "The World We Knew" album (the one with the liner notes on the
cover, speaking of liner notes.)


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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mr. Lucky in Stereo
Date: 05 Jun 1998 14:05:51 Pacific Daylight Time


Brian!

Oh no, no fight at all, I love the discussion. It's just that, to me, the stereo copy of "Goes Latin...." has so much
more depth and spaciousness than the mono. On the stereo, you really feel like you've gone along with Mr.
Lucky to some swanky spot. Those old RCA living stereo LP"s just can't be beat.

Are you a "Mono" fan? Nothing wrong with that at all.

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Subject: (exotica) Friday's Child
Date: 05 Jun 1998 14:15:05 Pacific Daylight Time


Hello Again!

Boy, it's been a great day so far for discussion, what fun!

Nancy Sinatra did two versions of Friday's Child. The "single" version can be found on "Movin' With
Nancy", and "Nancy's All-Time Hits" on Rhino. There is a different version on the "Nancy On London" LP,
and it has been issued on disc by Sundazed.

As for Lee Hazelwood himself, there is a re-issued "Live" disc that has it. Darn, I can't remember the name
of the disc or the label.

Lee Hazelwood also wrote "Houston" for Dean Martin, a fairly big hit in 65, and a country hit for Jimmy
Dean.

Frank's "This Town" can also be found on his Greatest Hits LP on Reprise from 68. It is a great song, and a
classic performance.

Anybody ever heard Nancy Sinatra's version of Cher's "Bang-Bang"?  It's a great song, and it has just
Nancy singing with a Duane Eddy styled reverb guitar. Everybody I play it for really flips for it. It's on the
"How Does That Grab You" LP from '66, and it too is on disc.

Take care,

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Subject: (exotica) The Lennon Sisters!
Date: 05 Jun 1998 14:24:17 Pacific Daylight Time


Hello Yet Again!

I also belong to the Lawrence Welk mail-list group, and the big topic right now is a possible collaboration
between Micheal Jackson and the Lennon Sisters! So someone sent in the original article from the "Branson
Gazette".....Maybe some of you will find it some interest.


>THE LENNON SISTERS AND ----MICHAEL JACKSON?????
>
> That's right. John Bahler, husband of Janet Lennon, was a vocal arranger
>for the Jackson Five
> for many years. Through the years Janet and John have stayed in touch with
>Michael, last
> working together when Janet sang on his "Heal The World" recording in 1992.
>This February the
> Bahler's visited Jackson's ranch to visit his 9 month old son. Michael
>asked John to arrange
> vocals for a new song he had written and then John gathered family members
>at Caravell Studios
> in Branson for a recording to send Jackson of the arrangements. Jackson
>responded with a call
> to tell John he loved the demo and asked the Lennon Sisters to record the
>lead to which he has
> added a music track. Hey, what other explanation than all the world loves
>the Lennons!
> by Rene Ray




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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What a lunch!
Date: 05 Jun 1998 15:21:27 -0400


I had a taco, a fajita...

Oh, skip that.

I found a copy of the marvelously unpronounceable Bert Kaempfert's "The
Happy Wonderland of Bert Kaempfert" in perfect condition and "Persuasive
Percussion", which must have been owned by the notorious Ellenback, because
that is what it looks like it was beat to.

All for a dollar at a yard sale.

Brian Phillips




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From: Michael Hibarger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "The Horse" and "Cast your Fate"
Date: 05 Jun 1998 15:56:17 -0400


Anyone know of an all instrumental track called "The Horse"
vintage late 60's...or how about other versions of "Cast your
Fate to the Wind" (other than the Vince Guaraldi version).
I know there was another version that was a top 40 hit later
on in the 60's and I'm trying to locate that version...

I'm also trying to get a copy of "The Horse" but I don't know
who did it...

Mike.



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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cast your fate to the horse
Date: 05 Jun 1998 16:43:19 -0400


The Horse I know of as an R&B instrumental (the vocal version is "Love is
All Right".  Some title, eh?)  It was released on Phil-L.A. of Soul but I
don't know the artist.

Just kidding!  The artist was "Cliff Nobles & Co."


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re: Paul Phillips/Joe Harnell
Date: 05 Jun 1998 16:37:41 EDT


As the king mentioned Joe Harnell's Bossa Nova LP (s?), I remembered that Joe
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From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cast your fate to the horse
Date: 05 Jun 1998 13:58:09 -0700


At 04:43 PM 6/5/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>The Horse I know of as an R&B instrumental (the vocal version is "Love is
>All Right".  Some title, eh?)  It was released on Phil-L.A. of Soul but I
>don't know the artist.
>
>Just kidding!  The artist was "Cliff Nobles & Co."

Released 5/68 - Reached #2 on pop charts, #2 also on R&B charts (USA).
Most of the band went on to form "MFSB", which hit it big with "TSOP (The
Sounds of Philadelphia)", also the theme for the show Soul Train, in 1974.

>The Top 40 version of "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" was by Sounds Orchestral.

From the album of the same name, Parkway SP-7046, featuring Johnny Pearson
on piano and harpsichord, produced and directed by John Schroeder.

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) "The Horse" and "Cast your Fate"
Date: 05 Jun 1998 16:49:43 EDT


"The Horse" was done by Cliff Nobles on the Phil L.A. of Soul Label in
1968....Released as a 45, the flip side, called "Love Is All Right", was a
vocal version of "The Horse". One night a Miami DJ put on the instrumental
side (experimentally--they could do that back then...), let it spin, and the
world subsequently loved it. Its not hard to find, I know its on the Rhino
Rock Instrumental 5-CD set which you can buy individually as well and its
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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Cast your fate to the horse
Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:13:01 -0400


> >The Horse I know of as an R&B instrumental (the vocal version is "Love is
> >All Right".  Some title, eh?)  It was released on Phil-L.A. of Soul but I
> >don't know the artist.
> >
> >Just kidding!  The artist was "Cliff Nobles & Co."
>
> Released 5/68 - Reached #2 on pop charts, #2 also on R&B charts (USA).
> Most of the band went on to form "MFSB", which hit it big with "TSOP (The
> Sounds of Philadelphia)", also the theme for the show Soul Train, in 1974.

Thanks for the follow-up!  I didn't know of the connection.   MFSB, if you
asked the band members, stood for Mother, Father, Sister, Brother.  However,
the real meaning (which was what you got if you asked and weren't printing
it) was...um...well, euphemistically,
Incestuous relations with one's closest female progenitor and an accusation
of one being the male offspring of a female dog.

> >The Top 40 version of "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" was by Sounds
> Orchestral.
>
> >From the album of the same name, Parkway SP-7046, featuring
> Johnny Pearson
> on piano and harpsichord, produced and directed by John Schroeder.

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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, doesn't she?
Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:29:07 -0400


> This version does drift a bit from Guraldi's version, doesn't it?

That should be Vince Guaraldi.  I hate goofing folks' names.  Especially on
the eckzotica list.

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From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Nancy's pipes; "This Town"
Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:37:33


At Fri, 05 Jun 1998 05:03:12 -0400, Nat Kone wrote:
>It lacks the "magic" of Nancy and Lee and it's not because Ann can't sing
as well as Nancy because well... the mind boggles at the very idea.

Are you saying your mind is boggled at the idea that a singer could be
worse than Nancy Sinatra? When I saw her live a couple years ago (with Lee
Hazelwood and Don Randi in tow, great great show), I was fairly impressed
with her singing. She can sing. I think on some of her campier material
like "Boots" she was doing a sort of half-spoken, "amateurish" vocal on
purpose, to give those records extra charm. It's sort of the style of half
of the singers in the current indie rock world, especially the females.

"This Town" is a really great song, one of Lee H's best. I believe it was
written primarily for its inclusion for the soundtrack of the amazing movie
THE COOL ONES, for which Lee wrote all of the songs. The lead actress (too
lazy to look her name up now) sings it in a great continuous shot of her
walking down the sidewalk at night (Sunset Strip?). When I finally heard
Frank's version, I nearly died at the realization that Frank Sinatra had
cut a song from THE COOL ONES, which just proves again (as if proof were
needed) that Frank was one of the cool ones.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) good linernotes
Date: 06 Jun 1998 01:19:55 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

> The coolest liner notes ever, regardless of whether you love or loathe the
> album or performer, are the liner notes on the album "Happiness is Dean
> Martin".
>
> I don't have the record here with me but will transcribe them if there is any
> interest on the list. They are titled Dean Martin:L'Objet de Pop Art. and
> discuss such topics as EPIC SLOTH.
>

Yes, Please!!!

MO




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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Friday's Child"
Date: 05 Jun 1998 19:53:29 EDT


The version of "Friday's Child" on the "Movin With Nancy" record is different
from the 45RPM version. It has a completely different arrangement (more rock).
It is worth it to have both, but if you are looking for Nancy's hit version of
"Friday's Child" get the Rhino Nancy Sinatra "The Hit Years" CD.

By the way, both are worth having as the compilation one has a lot of non-LP
single sides that aren't available elsewhere.

Larry


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Friday's Child
Date: 05 Jun 1998 19:55:10 EDT


In a message dated 6/5/98 2:09:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Nancy Sinatra did two versions of Friday's Child. The "single" version can
be
> found on "Movin' With
>  Nancy", and "Nancy's All-Time Hits" on Rhino. There is a different version
> on the "Nancy On London" LP,
>  and it has been issued on disc by Sundazed.

I sent my last post before reading on. I stand corrected.

Larry


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re:  I forgot to say to all concerned..
Date: 05 Jun 1998 19:16:19 -0500 (CDT)


i think i should mention, for poor Brian's sake, that the LP scan on my
site is actually not that accurate color-wise.  the cover in reality is a
bit more faded lower in contrast (for those who are comparing).  i've been
meaning to re-scan the bugger for a while now...

the end.

HRH kini

>Regarding "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin", I went back to the book sale and the LP
>was still there, so I picked it up and am now enjoying it.  Thanks to all
>for the recommendations, although I must include a note of sadness, for King
>Kini recommended it highly.  This is sad because he has a picture of it on
>his site and:
>
>1. His is a Living Stereo copy; mine is mono, which I don't mind so much
>as...
>2. The fact his is in better condition; mine is rather faded.




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From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 1 Year Ago, Playlist for Jack
Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:34:59 -0700


KFJC play list 6/8/97 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                   TRACK                    ALBUM
 Planets                  Chunky

 Gerry Mulligan           Frank Rosolino-Trmbn     From the Soundtrack
 Jazz Combo With:         Bud Shank-Alto Sax       "I Want to Live"
                          Art Farmer-Trumpet
                          Arrgmnt-Johnny Mandel
                          Red Mitchell-Stand Up
                          Bass
                          Pete Jolly-Piano

 Tartaglia                Within You Without You   Moog/Sitar
 Mancini                  The Cat                  Lalo Schifrin title
 Esquivel                 La Ronde                 Exploring New Sounds Mono
 Mel Brown                Chicken Fat              IMPULSE,1967
 Joe Greene(Soundtrack)   Walk to Hell-Destruction On Her Bed of Roses
 Fifty Foot Hose          Rose                     Cauldron, Limelight
 F. Marcellini            Mon Oncle/Adios Mario    Mon Oncle
 Yma Sumac                The Hummingbird          Coral, 1952, 10" LP

 Sammy Davis Jr.          (Love Is) the Tender
                          Trap

 Electric Flag             Gettin' Hard             The Trip
 Kenyon Hopkins           Coney Island Visit       Sound of New York
 Klaus Wunderlich         Cherokee                 2OUND 2000
 Joe Goldmark             I Will                   Steelin' the Beatles

 Nino De Luca             La Regazza Con La
                          Pistola

 Dorothy Ashby            Spicy                    Jazz Harpist, Regent

 Gene Page                Finding Love, Losing     Blacula
                          Love

 Phil Krause              Three Brothers           Conflict!
 Electric Coconut         Jungle Juice             F U N K
 Miss Toni Fisher         Speak of the Devil       The Big Hurt
 Buddy Charleton          Red Top                  60'S
 Mort Garson              The Unexplained          Rca, 1975
 Nelson Riddle Orch       Supercar                 Super-Marionation
 Sci Fi Sound Effects     Folkways Label, 1959
 O'Donel Levy             Playhouse                Manny Albam-Arrgr

 Quincy Jones Orch        A Sleepin' Bee           Art Farmer-Tpt
                          Phil Woods-Sax-O-Phone   Charles Mingus

 Mancini                  Frish Frosh              High Time OST

 Quincy Jones With;
 Don Elliot Voices        Happy Feet               Walk Don't Run
 Lambert, Hendriks &

 Annie Ross               Everyday (I Have the     1ST Lp
                          Blues)

 Armando Travajoli        Riffa Cha Cha            Nora Orlandi
 Ken Nordine              Roger                    57, Word Jazz

 Pounder                  Reflections
                        (On Warming Up)           E6

 Carlo Rusticelli         Blackmail with Loving
                          Care

 Bug, the                 Bug Party                Tapping the
                                                   Conversation
 Shorty Petterstein       Mental Blockages

 Music for Monsters       Dracula Drag
 Gert Wilden              Beware!
 Tony Mottola             Danger!                  M-G-M 1957

 Patsy Raye & the                                  [coll]: Swing for a
 Beatniks                 Beatnik's Wish           Crime

 Alfred Hitchcock/                                 Stereo
 Jeff Alexander Orch      Music to Be Murdered By  Imperial, 1958

 Mundell Lowe W/
 Gene Quill-Alto          Love Me or Leave Me      1957

 Pete Rugolo Orch         Diamond on the Move


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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) liner notes
Date: 05 Jun 1998 20:22:02 -0500 (CDT)


Try this from "Persistent Percussion" by the All Stars, AKA, Percussion All
Stars (Kent KST 500, 07/60):

LA CUMPARSITA. Percussion and flute start us off on the right foot. The
flowing flute of (Buddy) Collette scores with dynamic effect. High point of
the track is an exuberant passage by guitarist Kess, and the wild and
woolly interplay between Buddy and guitar. The closing eight bars are
guaranteed to bring a smile. If not . . . well, go back and listen again
because you're goofing.

HAWAIIAN WAR CHANT. Two tempestuous timpani explode. Frank Rosolino,
trombone, gets aid from a "plumbers help" -- and from the soaring,
low-register artistry of Jewel Grant on baritone. Enter the cool. Collette
plus flute equals a bright effort. On vibes, it's jumpin' Gene Estes. Kess
takes the ball, and he just doesn't quit. And then, (Johnny) Cyr
contributes flashing, sock bongo drumming. On the out chorus, vibes and
ensemble make the "Chant" the hippest of
happy-talk.

Irv Cottler appears on other cuts. Plus the jacket has a badly rendered
black-on-white Commandesque graphic. And the disk is ruby vinyl.

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Cast your fate to the horse
Date: 05 Jun 1998 23:29:21 -0400


>> >The Top 40 version of "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" was by Sounds
>> Orchestral.

I don't quite know why but damn that Sounds Orchestral has some great
moments.
A piano trio with strings.  Who'd a thunk it?

Oh and if you want another version, the Ventures do "The horse" on the
album of the same name.  And then there's a good Booker T. version.
Speaking of which, I don't think Booker T gets mentioned enough on this list.

Nat

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica art
Date: 05 Jun 1998 23:49:48 -0400


At 10:23 AM -0700 6/5/98, [e-mail] wrote:

>P.S. What ever happened to those Esquivel reissues that were coming out in
>January?

Sluggish sales on the first 2 volumes have forced BarNone to reconsider
releasing these. Unfortunately, it's very expensive to license and reissue
major label releases. Hopefully the discs may get released when the
Esquivel movie comes out next year.

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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood
Date: 06 Jun 1998 04:58:03 PDT


In Sweden it is easy to find LPs by Lee. They never cost more than $10
and usually about $1 at fleamarkets.

Come and visit!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned...(somewhat
Date: 06 Jun 1998 05:04:01 PDT



>So no Taboo for me!  As a matter of fact I STILL own no Lyman,
dagnabbit.

Thats odd, I see them everywhere on the internet for sale, and always so
cheap. I love Arthur Lyman. He is as good as Denny.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood
Date: 06 Jun 1998 15:38:37 +0000


Magnus Sandberg wrote:

> In Sweden it is easy to find LPs by Lee. They never cost more than $10
> and usually about $1 at fleamarkets.
>
> Come and visit!

I will. BTW: will there be such a fleamarket between the 15th and 26th of
June?

The last Lee-record that I found was a Swedish production. A "Hifi Demo D=
isco
Special 30 cm - 45 varv/min" with two songs, Indian Summer and Whole lott=
a
shakin' goin' on. It has a hip/ridiculous label on the sleeve that says "=
20th
century Lee". The record is from 1976 and all musicians seem to be Swedes=
,
producer is a Klas Burling. The songs are almost unbelievably
pretentious-"cool", maybe great, if you're a fan, which is the case in my
case. Lee actually speaks rather than sings in his deeeeeep dark voice to=
 a
heavy slow disco beat, as if he wants to do a persiflage on of Barry Whit=
e.
You can almost hear him thinking that the girls get wet slips by his voic=
e,
but knowing at the same time that it's all a camp fake. Maybe he thought =
to
become a disco-star, but why show him on the cover of a disco-Maxi sittin=
g on
an old-fashioned arm-chair. However, then came Abba anyway and stole him =
the
show...

"F=F6r att ytterligare h=F6ja ljudkvaliteten har vi valt 45 varv/min hast=
ighet och
30 cm skivstorlek."  Hee hee...

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say
Date: 06 Jun 1998 15:41:22 +0000


>  I love Arthur Lyman. He is as good as Denny.
>
He played in the Martin denny band before his solo career and picked up
quite congenial what he learned from the great master of Exotica.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Friday's Child
Date: 06 Jun 1998 15:43:49 +0000


On the "Love and other crimes"-CD you find Lee's own version of the
song.

MO


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)
Date: 06 Jun 1998 10:12:21 -0500 (CDT)


sluggish sales, duh.

they should have been budget-priced (2fers or not).  by the time they came
out (long after the initial trend had peaked), casual fans already had the
three bar/none CDs (and probably two others).  ...and esquivel addicts had
probably tracked down original vinyl by that point.  why doesnt bar/none at
least release the once lost "See It in Sound" album?  NOBODY has those
tracks, CD or LP.  i'll tell you what...  they oughta shoulda put that one
out as the first in the series of reissues to generate interest again and
get people buyin'.  i'd have bought it immediately, and then needed the
others to complete the set.

i know everything, kini

P.S.  the art directors at Bar/None should have taken a cue from Scamp's
Denny reissue packaging.  yeah, yeah, the full covers were inside...  but
that's not what the shopper first (or ever) sees.

end of rant.


>>P.S. What ever happened to those Esquivel reissues that were coming out in
>>January?
>
>Sluggish sales on the first 2 volumes have forced BarNone to reconsider
>releasing these. Unfortunately, it's very expensive to license and reissue
>major label releases. Hopefully the discs may get released when the
>Esquivel movie comes out next year.




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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Nancy's pipes; "This Town"
Date: 06 Jun 1998 11:57:28 -0400


At 05:37 PM 05/06/98, Jay Schwartz wrote:

>Are you saying your mind is boggled at the idea that a singer could be
>worse than Nancy Sinatra?

That was the suggestion yeah.  I'm sure I've had worse.  Maybe I've heard a
lot of them.  The bar can always be lowered.

 When I saw her live a couple years ago (with Lee
>Hazelwood and Don Randi in tow, great great show), I was fairly impressed
>with her singing. She can sing.

"Fairly impressed".  Compared to low expectations?
"Can sing".  I guess I wonder whether the emphasis is on "can" or "sing".

As a Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen "fan", I'm a little tired of debating the
question of what constitutes good singing, pipes vs.emotion etc.
I still avoid rock bands where the singer has a "good voice".  I much
prefer "bad voices", like Vic Chesnutt, if that means anything to anyone.
If good pipes were the only issue I would have to stop slagging the shame
of my nation, Celine Dion, at every possible opportunity.
I guess if I liked Nancy's records, I must sort of like her voice.  It must
be "effective" at the very least.
But I don't think I could ever bring myself to say "Nancy Sinatra, what a
great singer!"  Not on the basis of pipes OR emotion.
But maybe on the basis of the complete LACK of emotion.
I also like Claudine Longet records by the way but again, I think it's the
records I like.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say
Date: 06 Jun 1998 12:06:30 -0400


At 03:41 PM 06/06/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote:
>
>>  I love Arthur Lyman. He is as good as Denny.
>>
>He played in the Martin denny band before his solo career

It's silly to argue over taste, I know.  But as subtle as the difference
between Denny and his ex-bandmember Lyman are, Arthur always disappoints
me.  There's something a little flatter, a little duller.  Yeah he has
moments.  Even I have moments but Lyman's moments are fewer than Denny's
and less extreme.  Consistently.But I still pick up the Lyman's because I
keep thinking I'll get it.
If you like him as much, great.  I only post this so that maybe someone
could explain to me why I find this clear difference between the two.
Maybe Lyman was trying for something quite different.  Maybe he was trying
to be subtler... God only knows why.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lyman vs. Denny
Date: 06 Jun 1998 19:32:46 +0000


The thing about Lyman is, that he didn't try enough to do his own thing,
to get away from the Martin Denny shadow a little bit more by creating
his own personal style.
The two are pretty  easy to mix up sometimes. Like when I hear them from
a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who.

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From: Eb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Killdozer rocks!
Date: 06 Jun 1998 16:47:46 -0700


Quick tip: I hope all you High Llamas/Randy Newman/Van Dyke Parks/Brian
Wilson types have run out and POUNCED on the new Rufus Wainwright album
(self-titled, on Dreamworks). It soundly beats ANYTHING by the High Llamas,
actually. And unlike Parks, O'Hagan and Newman, Wainwright has a great
voice. And unlike Parks and O'Hagan, his lyrics mean something besides a
spew of flowery imagery. He could be THE new artist of 1998, from where I'm
sittin'.

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Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 6/2/98
Date: 06 Jun 1998 20:37:27 EDT


"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am
-----Billy Taylor Orchestra-Theme From David Frost-----
Chaquito-Theme from It Takes A Thief-CD Mad Mad World
Elmer Bernstein-Audition-LP OST Man With Golden Arm
John Loco-Nightmare-CD Ultra Lounge, Bongos
Antonal's Cuban All-Stars-Juvenile Patrol-LP Mango-Mangue
Joe Loss Orchestra-Poppa Lo Quero-CD, Swingin' Cheese (Irma)
Trombones Unlimited-Turn Down Day-LP Trombones Unlimited
Lalo Shcifrin-Aftermath-CD OST Bullitt
George Romanis-Clean Wash-LP OST 8 On The Lam
Ventures-Gemini-CD-In The Vaults (Ace)
Choice 4-Hook It Up-LP arr., cond., and prod. by Van McCoy
-AstroSlut-Quinn Martian Memorandum-CD 5 song-sampler
-Mikis Theodorakis-Cafe Rock-LP OST "Z"
-Nico Fidencio-London Streets-CD Cinecitta #2
-Three Sounds-Yeh Yeh-LP Blue Note
-Tony Hatch Orchestra-Birds-CD Sound Spectrum
-Henry Mancini-Carnavalitto-LP The Latin Sound of Henry M.
-Orpheus-Congress Alley-CD Big Beat Bosstown Sound Series
-Pizzicato 5-Collision and Improvisation-CD Happy End of Wrld
-Don Tiki-Clutch Cargo-CD Forbidden Sounds of Don Tiki
-Combustible Edison-Bewitched-CD OST 4 Rooms
Joey Viera-Introduction-LP Drum Drops vol. 4
Burt Bachrach-Wives and Lovers-CD Burt Bachrach plays hits
Teddy Randazzo & Co.-Theme from Girl From Uncle-LP OST
Piero Umiliani-Le Ragazze Dell Arcipleago-CD OST Sweden....
Mark Lindsay-Something Big-CD Mad Mad World of Soundtracks
Don Costa-Goodbye Sadness-LP The Don Costa Concept
MFSB-TLC-CD MFSB
Les Masques-Il Faut Tenir-CD Sexopolis
-Westinghouse Power Forum-Dream City-LP Perspect. 4 7T's
-Hector Rivera-I Want a Chance For Romance-CD Hector Rivera
-Ray Martin Orch-Lullaby Of the Leaves-LP Dynamica
-Peter Thomas-Happening In White-CD Futurmuzik Scamp
-Quincy Jones-Rack 'Em Up-LP OST The Pawnbroker
-Davie Allen & The Arrows-Experiment In Terror-CD Shots Drk
-Al Caiola-Third Man Theme-LP Sounds For Spies & Private Eys
-Ronnie Dyson-I Think I'll Tell Her-LP Ronnie Dyson .. Columbia
-----Lalo Schifrin-Jim On The Move-----


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From: "David J. Strauss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ray Copeland Singers
Date: 06 Jun 1998 22:05:50 -0400 (EDT)



I am slowly discovering the joys of the Ray Copeland Singers (and slowly
inching my way back into Exotica and like after some time off) and I
suspect that Copeland kicks Ray Charles' ass! Did he have any connection
to Enoch Light (some of his LPs are on ABC, though not Command).
The LPs feature many of Light's (and the world's session guys). Also, his
singers often do that Montenegro Beach Boys thing. And he arranges an
interpolation of "Scarborough Fair" with "Classical Gas", that makes you
waonder why you didn;t think of it first.

Any more info?

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From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack, 5-31-98
Date: 06 Jun 1998 19:55:29 -0700


 KFJC play list 5/31/98 for Jack Diamond
 Http://www.KFJC.org
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 and rock on 24 Hours a day, 365 Days a year!

 ARTIST                       TRACK                   ALBUM
 The Planets                  Chunky

 Pepper Adams Qnt             Muezzin'                Mode, July '57
 Stu Williamson               Carl Perkins-Piano
 Leroy Vinnegar-Bass          Mel Lewis-Drums

 Francis Lai                  Destination Le Havre    Hello-Goodbye Ost
 Vic Mizzy                    Daybreak at Malibu      Don't Make Waves
 Dorothy Ashby                Feeling Good            Fantastic Jazz Harp
                                                      Atlantic, 1965

 Bob Crewe Generation         The Pill, Smoke,        Barbarella Ost CD
                              The Sex Machine

 Martin Denny                 Let Go                  Exotic Moog
 Frank Hunter                 Strange Echoes          Ondioline Exotica

 Slava Tsukerman              Margarets Chilhood      Liquid Sky Ost
                              Theme

 Nino Rota                    Taratella Grotesca      Spara Forte...
 Enoch Light Orch             Walk on By              Spaced Out!
 Chaino                       Jungle Chase            Africana and Beyond CD
 Muzzy Marcellino             Willow Weep for Me      Russ Garcia Orch
 Kenyon Hopkins Orch          The Sound of New York   Abc Paramount
 Nelson Riddle Orch           Supercar
 Charles Earland              Never Ending Melody     Dynamite Bros!
 Dick Hyman/Mary Mayo         Maid of the Moon        Moon Gassssss
 Vinnie Bell-Elec Gtr         Nick Tagg-Lowery Organ

 Pino Donaggio                School in Flames        Carrie Ost

 Marshall Mc Luhan            The Medium Is the       Side 2
                              Massage

 Brad Slocum-Moog             Happy Birthday in 5
                              Parts;
                              'a La Grotesque
                              'a La Chopin
                              'a La Bizet
                              'a La Debussy
                              'a La Electronica

 Don Morrow                   Like the Shoemaker-     Grimm's Hip
                              And the Elves           Fairy Tales

 Conte Condoli-Tpt            Vaya Hombre Vaya        Bill Holman-
 Art Pepper-Alto Sax          Mike Pacheco and        Arr/Comp.
 Bill Perkins-Tenor           Jack Costanzo

 Perrey, Jean
 Jacques/Chazam,D.            Clones War              Eklectronics!!!

 Fabulous Jokers              Humouresque             Monument
 Bernard Herrmann             Duel W/ the Skeleton    7th Voyage of Sinbad
 Ennio Morricone              Contro Il Tempo
 Johnny Gunn                  Pattern                  Kmart Ken Nordine
 Henry Mancini                Arabesque;The Zoo Chase in 3 Parts
 Ken Nordine                  There's a She and a He
 Phil Baugh                   Blues Riff              1976, Live

 Pete Rugolo Orch W/
 Jack Costanzo                Percussion at Work      L. Bunker; Vibes
                                                      Xylophone, Tympani

 Gwen Verdon/Tab Hunter       2 Lost Souls            Damn Yankees
 Hugo Montenegro              Caravan                 Arp W/ Orchestra

 Thomas, Peter                Bolero on the Moon      Futuremuzik
                              Rocks

 Quincy Jones                 Candy Man               Money Ost

 Slava Tsukerman              Night Club 2, Night     Liquid Sky Ost
                              Club 3

 Mort Garson                  Sensuous Lovers-Climax #2
 Todd Rundgren                Dogfight Giggle

 Shorty Rogers/Giants         Manteca!!!              Rca, 1958
 W/ Carlos Vidal              Luis Miranda
 Modesto Duran                Shelly Manne
 Mike Pacheco                 Manuel Ochoa
 Juan Cheda                   Frank Guerro

 Dizzy Gillespie Orch         Caravan
 W/ Rafael Miranda            Candido Camero
 Joe Manguel                  Ubaldo Nieto
 Gilberto Valdes-Flute

 Jody Carver and
 Johnny Cucci                 Minute Waltz            Chopin

 Dean Elliot Orch             Break Up                College Confidential
 Pete Rugolo Orch             Diamond on the Move

KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jantzen, Manson, Schmanzen
Date: 06 Jun 1998 21:42:18 +0000


At 11:30 AM 6/5/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-05-31 20:31:55 EDT, you write:
>You mean Martin Denny's group....Wechter never played with Lyman (he was the
>competition!)
>
>ashley
>

Thanks for the correction.  I am SO embarassed and should have known
better.  I just type faster than my brain works.

Byron

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From: cheryls <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 7
Date: 07 Jun 1998 12:56:29 -0400


"Space Bop" (formerly "The Single Eye") can be heard every Sunday at 4pm
on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl.
Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space
The Final Frontier!  Comments & questions welcome.

June 7 - Tnis week's show is a brief introduction to Space Bop


Moebius & Plank:  News  "Rastakraut Pasta"

Danielle Dax:  Pariah  "Jesus Egg That Wept"

Renaldo & The Loaf:  Lime Jelly Grass  "Songs For Swinging Larvae"

Pizzicato 5/The Automator:  Love's Theme (Automator Mix)  "Remix Album:
Happy End Of You"

Man Ray Band:  I Feel So Good  "Fix Planet!"

Conrad Schnitzler:  24.8.86  "Congratulacion"

Mark Mothersbaugh:  Keikavid  "Muzik for Insomniacs - Vol. 2"

Stock, Hausen & Walkman:  Bypass  "Organ Transplants"

Stock, Hausen & Walkman:  Unlucky  "Organ Transplants"

Der Plan:  Space Bob  "Perlen"

Esquivel:  Whatchamacallit  "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music"
Martin Denny:  Raftero  "Afro-Desia"

Pascal Comelade:  Egyptian Reggae  "Haikus De Pianos"

Klaus Wunderlich & Orchester Gert Wilden:  Baby Elephant Walk  "Get
Easy! Vol.4"

Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra:  Pardon Me, Ms. Carmen  "Futuremuzik"

Tom Recchion:  Chaotica  "Chaotica"

Tuxedomoon:  Heaven  "Can You Hear Me? Music From The Deaf Club"


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Music to Watch Girls By
Date: 07 Jun 1998 19:27:53 +0200


>From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>

>I just got Walter Wanderley's _Talkin' Verve_ (on Verve, duh) and it
>features a version of "Music to Watch Girls By".

    it's also on the (German, thus more expensive) double compilation
    on Motor, "the fantastic Walter Wanderley", and fantastic it is!!!

        Johan


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From: Ronnie Wagner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Stag records
Date: 08 Jun 1998 01:30:23 -0400


I'm looking for any and all information on stag LPs that were released in
the 1970's. These were some of the carziest records (in my opinion) to ever
be released, and are now hopelessly obscure and almost impossible to track
down.
    The only one I have actually heard is called Shaftman on Funky Finger
Records, but the version I have is a reissue from some time in the 1990's.
From what I have been able to gather, there were two record labels who
pressed these records originally and they were called Funky Finger Records,
and Fax Records. The reissue that I have on Funky Finger Records has NO
information such as the city that the company is based out of, or even
credits for the voices on the LP.
    If anyone knows anything about these records, or (even better) actually
owns any of these records, please send me an email.

Thanks,

Ronnie


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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kon Tiki Interactive
Date: 08 Jun 1998 04:55:51 PDT



I just bought my first cd-rom. It was a bargain sale ($10) of a title
from 1996 called Kon-Tiki interactive.

It covers in text, video and sound Thor Heyerdahls expeditions with
kon-Tiki, Ra and Tigris, and the archeological diggings of Easter
Island. There is a video of a Tiki that walks (with aid from of a lot of
peoples that is) I have seen much of this material before on television,
but I don't have anything on tape. This cd-rom is only available in
swedish and norwegian, and will probably not get translated to other
languages, because i think its "out of style" by now.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) TV - Blue Note, Stax
Date: 08 Jun 1998 11:25:37 -0400


This Thursday night (into Friday morning), Bravo (US) has Part 2 of that
documentary on the Blue Note record company at 10:00pm and 1:00am (eastern
daylight times).

Also on Thursday/Friday, they have a documentary on Stax Records at 5:00pm and
4:00am.

They should go all the way into niche broadcasting and start the "Record Label
History Channel".

Also, kind of late notice, but tonight at 8:00pm, A&E's "Biography" is doing
Andy Warhol.

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I forgot to say to all concerned.
Date: 08 Jun 1998 08:38:51 PDT





>>I have 3 of Mure's lps: Fireworks, Hawaiian Percussion and A split
that he is on with another more tradtional sounding Hawaiian band whose
name escapes me.

>Could it be Hawaaian Moods with Luke Leilani on the other side?
 That's it.

>. If you're after blistering guitar work, shun Mure, Caiola,
>>Strange, Mottola's Guitar Underground, ... and seek out Joe Maphis,
>>early Roy Clark, other non "exotic" types.
>
>This kind of stuns me.  I have a double album of non-blistering Joe
Maphis
>too.

Didn't intend to be stunning.But yes. Maphis did much that is not ....
electrifying, stuff that I do not enjoy : 12 string & banjo stuff, etc
(though he is incredibly fast on whatever instrument he's playing).
nd plenty blistering from all the non-blisterers mentioned, with the
>possible exception of Strange.

Really. Caiola, maybe. Curious to hear what you've got by Mottola that
raises wens.
Nobody's looking for Mr.Mure to do a 15
>minute solo on "I'm Coming Home" are they?

That is one for the oracle.
>(Which in turn reminds me of Love Sculpture's "Sabre Dance".  Was that
Rory
>Gallagher?)
>I don't think blistering is the point.  It's good vs.boring.  Alive
vs.asleep.

Perhaps you have gone some way toward clarifying the point.... the
original poster would know best. I did not find Fireworks to be limp, so
I would not have come to your conclusion. The original post, if I recall
correctly, expressed approval regarding a coupke of the tracks that
featured Mure's lively guitar work. Most of the tracks on that lp do
feature alive or blistering or chancring or what have you guitar work -
but I find them fun to listen to, nonethe less.

>>>I too would like to know how other Mure titles compare to or excel
those
>>I have mentioned.
>
>There's a blistering cut on "Around the world in Percussion".
>Well not blistering exactly.


Again, blistering I could care less about. Just like to know how they
sound or how others regard them in comparison with the stuff I'm
familiar with. And Around the World in Percussion - is this Cottler or
Mure?
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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)
Date: 08 Jun 1998 13:12:07 -0400


At 10:12 AM -0500 6/6/98, king kini wrote:

>they should have been budget-priced (2fers or not).

Financially impossible. The discs are too expensive to manufacture and
market. You have to understand that BarNone has to buy the fully
manufactured CD's from BMG  [through their Special Markets division] at a
cost of about $5 a disc, as well as paying publishing royalties on 24
tracks. Why do you think budget records are issued minus 2 tracks? To save
the money in order to make the release affordable as a budget title. Indie
labels have to buy a minimum amount of CD's from the major label; the
standard is 10,000 copies. So the indie has put up at least $50,000 for the
physical discs alone, before art work, jewel boxes, advertising and
promotion (the usual figure for these last 2 being around $20,000. It costs
a lot to put ad's in all those fanzines and magazines; it costs a lot to
get your disc in a Tower Listening Post; it costs a lot to make and send
out promo copies) They sell the discs to wholesalers at a markup of around
2 bucks. But if they only sell a thousand or two, that means they have made
back less than $5000, which puts them in the hole to the tune of at least
$45,000. Which, of course, is not a good hit for a business that doesn't
have pockets as deep as, say, Ted Turner's.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - the reason all of your favorite
records don't come out on CD is that the major labels make it too
expensive/risky a proposition for an indie. Scamp Records CEO Ashley Warren
is on this list and can reiterate all this and more. The most efficient way
for reissues to be realized (other than the majors doing them themselves,
which, for the most part, they won't - the limited sales potential is not
enough to justify their vast overhead and operating costs) is when a label
is part of the corporate conglomerate that owns the major as well (i.e.
Varese/MCA; Rhino/WEA; Scamp/EMI -hence the Denny and Barry reissues), or
the indie has bought (or acquired for marketing purposes) a specific
catalog  (Ryko/Hi-Fi//MGM-UA)

> by the time they came
>out (long after the initial trend had peaked), casual fans already had the
>three bar/none CDs (and probably two others).  ...and Esquivel addicts had
>probably tracked down original vinyl by that point.

Indeed. That's the point I brought up on my Esquivel Page in the last issue
of Exotica/Et Cetera. Those initial BarNone CD's sold beyond everyones
wildest expectations. Things were not helped by the fact that BMG's sole
Esquivel reissue had too many tracks that were already on the BarNone CD's,
and most of the previously reissued tracks were on the original albums
being reissued in the 2fer series.

>why doesnt bar/none at least release the once lost "See It in Sound"
>album?  NOBODY has those
>tracks, CD or LP.

That remains a very distinct possibility.

> i'll tell you what...  they oughta shoulda put that one
>out as the first in the series of reissues to generate interest again and
>get people buyin'.

Agreed, it would have been a good idea, but there were special
circumstances involved with that one - after all, it was not a *reissue* as
it had never been issued in the first place. At least, after 2 years of
searching, we found it. RCA had no listing of it in it's library inventory.
It was only after Neely Plumb gave me the matrix numbers from his acetate
(the only known copy of the album) that they were able to find the tapes,
and eventually, the paperwork (song titles, composers, etc).

>P.S.  the art directors at Bar/None should have taken a cue from Scamp's
>Denny reissue packaging.  yeah, yeah, the full covers were inside...  but
>that's not what the shopper first (or ever) sees.

I pushed for the Scamp approach, but BarNone felt that it was better to
indicate clearly on the cover that there were 2 full albums by showing the
covers of both albums on the sleeve. Considering that the German BMG issues
did show the full cover of a single album in the front, I have to agree
with BarNone - there would have been more consumer confusion if people saw
2 identical looking CD's of "Other Worlds, Other Sounds" or "4
Corners......." in the racks (as those German issues are very easy to find
in the states, especially at megastores like Tower, HMV and Virgin).

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Booker T in Hawaii
Date: 08 Jun 1998 09:05:43 -1000


Aloha y'all-

Recent posts to the list commented on upcoming Bravo channel showing of
their new profile on Stax Records, as well as the desire for more
discussion of the great Booker T & the MGs here. I was fortunate enough
to be contacted by Bravo PR dept to arrange a pre-cocktail party with
Mr. "hip-hug-her" himself at a restaurant/lounge (ScooZee's Pau Hana
Lounge) this Wed, 6/10 before he goes next door @ Border's to blaze on
the Hammond B-3! Not sure if the MGs are with him... will report back to
the group.

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From: the_curator <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gordini Mix - Alex Gopher
Date: 08 Jun 1998 17:40:53 +0000


Folks

is anyone interested in this spare CD i have of "Gordini Mix - Alex Gopher"
on Solid/V2. Tracks as follows:

1. Prepare to Qualify by Mister Learn
2. Original Version by Alex Gopher
3. P1 Fuel in L32 Mix by daphreephunkateerz
4. Brakes on Mix by Air
5. Roue Libre Mix by Bang Bang
6. The Lord of Monza Mix by Etienne de Crecy
7. Burn Out Mix by Mister Learn
8. Nikki Lauder Berbecue Mix by Extra Lucid

Total time 40 mins. If you are, mail me off-list with swap/money offers.

friendly

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From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)
Date: 08 Jun 1998 21:00:40 -0700



> it costs a lot to
> get your disc in a Tower Listening Post;

Sorry to be naive, but record companies actually pay to have their disks
featured at the listening posts?

Wiser but sadder,

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From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) record companies pay and pay
Date: 08 Jun 1998 22:10:18 +0000


>Sorry to be naive, but record companies actually pay to have their disks
>featured at the listening posts?
===================================================

as a label guy, i can honestly tell you, the labels have to
pay for EVERY special 'highlight' of their albums promotion
at retail.

do you think retailers would just be happy to have new
releases to sell, and put them voluntarily in their 'new release'
racks up front ?  no.  every single album that is 'featured' in
prominent racks 'up front' in any of the chain stores and many
of the indies, is paid for by the labels.  stores sell
the desirable 'real estate' positioning in-store to the labels. those
slots are limited and pricey.  on the upper end of this, sometimes
one week of prominent in-store displaying in a chain like musicland/sam
goody can go for as much as $25,000.   record retailers also, *Do Not*
discount or 'put albums on sale' and give up their profit margin
in the process.  the label basically pays for them to give you
the album on sale, plus buys the ad in the local weekly paper,
plus pays for the tickets (no discounts here - face price...just what
you would pay) for the record store buyer to go to the show when the
act is in town.

heavy music consumers tend to be down on the labels for high
sticker prices, but in reality that is only because they have no
way to know the inner workings of the trade.

retailers contribute little or nothing to popularizing individual
music releases but want to be paid grossy to do what should be
their job anyway.

instore listening stations can go for hundreds to over a thousand
dollars per month per store, if the retailer *approves* of your release
for their instore station thing.

paul moshay
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Lyman vs. Denny
Date: 09 Jun 1998 03:10:03 EDT


Moritz wrote:
The thing about Lyman is, that he didn't try enough to do his own thing,
to get away from the Martin Denny shadow a little bit more by creating
his own personal style.
The two are pretty  easy to mix up sometimes. Like when I hear them from
a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who.


I beg to differ with you here (and I hope a lot of others on the list are
sharp enough to comment on this too)
Lyman very quickly realized that merely replicating Denny was not good enough.
Hence his insistence that he was/is a JAZZ musician. He makes a big point to
this day that his band played in a lot of jazz clubs in their heyday and he
jammed with Shorty Rogers and the like. I have never heard Denny talk like
that (though I'm sure Denny jammed with lots of other "jazz" musicians)
Leis Of Jazz (recently reissued on CD) was recorded very early in Lyman's
career. On the back cover he sports a horizontal striped T-shirt and a
cigarette to get that beat/jazz/Blue Note look.
Lyman's style of Exotica - not to mention his more jazzy stuff - is much more
quiet & dramatic, and based on traditional Hawaiian music than Denny's.
Another CD reissue titled Music of Hawaii has compiled all of the Lyman penned
material so that you can see his creativity on original tunes is not too far
from that of Denny's. Remember that Denny didn't WRITE a lot of his material.
He was a genius ARRANGER.
Lyman was part of Denny's original combo so I guess one could argue that Lyman
actually made a contribution to the Denny sound for a short while?

Sure there is tons of stuff that is very similar to Denny, but Lyman has a
very subtley sonic vibe (pardon the pun)

Also note that Lyman was persuaded by Henry J. Kaiser (and Kaiser's money) and
Hi Fi to replicate Denny's sound and Lyman was only about 19 at the time!


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From: "Steven Peterson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:46:39 -0500
Date: 09 Jun 1998 04:47:15 -0600


In regards to the recent, " Lyman vs Denny " topic.   I don't believe that
you can approach this topic with a " vs " attitude.  Both artists, whose
recording style is in a similar vein, offer the world their music each in
their own unique way.   Denny with his strong exotic sounds accompanied by
his fine piano playing.  Lyman with a smooth, softer sound enhanced by his
wonderful vibes and a tinge of jazz from time to time.  Both artists for
this reason contributed greatly in their own way, drawing from one another
from time to time I'm sure.  I can't pick who is better, I just want to
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Subject: (exotica) Help!  (Air)
Date: 09 Jun 1998 13:37:50 UT


Does anyone know if Air's Premiere Symptomes EP is now out of print?
It's quickly disappearing from on-line stores and I can't seem to order a copy.

Yikes,
PeterR


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From: mike clifford <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bosstown
Date: 09 Jun 1998 09:08:59 -0600


Hey everybody!  I've been mostly lurking on this list, with an occassional
post or two, but I've really enjoyed the discussions. I've been thinning
down my vinyl accumulation for a big move to Boston, sometimes I've
reconsidered getting rid of something because of comments here.  To get to
the point, I am moving to the Boston area in a few days.  I'll be off e-mail
and getting off the list, but in the meantime, if anybody has any info on
clubs, record stores, etc. in the area, please drop me a line.  I'm already
looking forward to hearing Jimmy's Easy when I get up in the a.m., but I'm
curious about other stuff.  Hopefully my e-mail will be forwarded, too.
Thanks,
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From: "NATHAN MINER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lyman vs. Denny -Reply
Date: 08 Jun 1998 13:20:18 -0400


"Like when I hear them from
a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who."

Exactly.

What you're "hearing" is the idea in your mind that somehow Lyman sounds =
different from Denny.  I can't possibly see how anybody could really =
provide a distinct explanation of how their "sounds" differ.  Its been =
mentioned before that Lyman sounds more "jazzy" and maybe this is because =
of a somtimes-predominance of vibes.

Lyman basically took a good thing and ran with it.  Why mess with =
something that ain't broke.  He left Denny to play for a rival night club, =
and what they basically wanted was that "Denny sound." =20

- Nate


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:01:50 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-09 00:12:14 EDT, you write:

<< > it costs a lot to
 > get your disc in a Tower Listening Post;

 Sorry to be naive, but record companies actually pay to have their disks
 featured at the listening posts?

 Wiser but sadder,
  >>

Doesn't this reek of the payola scandels of the radio stations in days past?
Any industry pundits out there listening????

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues (was: exotica art)
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:23:04 -0400 (EDT)


On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> In a message dated 98-06-09 00:12:14 EDT, you write:
>
>
> Doesn't this reek of the payola scandels of the radio stations in days past?
> Any industry pundits out there listening????
>

This practice also goes on in the bookselling industry (publishers pay for
prime placement of their wares) and in grocery stores (ditto).

I'm no lawyer but I'm guessing that since retail shops do not operate over
the public airwaves, as do radio stations, they can peddle the space in
their stores any way they please.


Brett


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Subject: (exotica) Re: Denny vs. Lyman
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:26:19 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-09 03:13:02 EDT, Otto writes:

<< Moritz wrote:
 The thing about Lyman is, that he didn't try enough to do his own thing,
 to get away from the Martin Denny shadow a little bit more by creating
 his own personal style.
 The two are pretty  easy to mix up sometimes. Like when I hear them from
 a compilation tape, sometimes I forget who is who.


 I beg to differ with you here (and I hope a lot of others on the list are
 sharp enough to comment on this too) >>

I agree with Otto.  My slant???  Denny was actually trained in classical piano
and you can tell it from his work.  Actually the keyboards were his speciality
and as Otto mentions, his arranging is what made him great (much to Baxter's
shagrin).

Otto's comments on Lyman being more Hawaiian in style is also on target.  Few
of Denny's tunes have that Hawaiian "twang" or ukelee sound.  Lyman was
quicker to us more traditional Hawaiian instruments and sounds.

I play exotica music in my office on Friday mornings and get funny comments
from some of my patients.  With the Lyman stuff people will ask about the
"Hawaiian music" with Denny they ask about (now get this) the "strange music".
I just love it.

And on a side note, for those Denny Quiet Village fans out there:  Have you
ever wondered how his fingers survived that "cascade" that he repeatedly
performs in Quiet where he slides his fingers all the way down the keyboard?
Did he use something on his fingers?  After a while that's gotta hurt.

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:46:39 -0500
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:28:32 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-09 06:48:17 EDT, you write:

<< In regards to the recent, " Lyman vs Denny " topic.   I don't believe that
 you can approach this topic with a " vs " attitude.   >>

I don't think it has really been a "vs." --  as in a battle -- more a
discussion of the differences.  Again, not which one is better.

Robert

P.S.  Why do you always tell us what time it is????


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues - payola
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:34:58 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-09 14:17:09 EDT, you write:

<< I always thought payola was an income tax issue -
 unreported income and all like that.
 > >>

I thought it had something to do with the record companies paying DJ's under
the table to give their records favorable play time.

It was reported to me (never admit it) that "payola" was the subject of a
recent Beverly Hills 90210 .  The person who told me this said that he (again,
never admit it) was watching the show because there was supposedly some
"lounge" acts that were suppose to be on this season.

Robert  (Charleston 29412)


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Denny vs. Lyman
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:42:45 -0400


At 2:26 PM -0400 6/9/98, <[e-mail]> wrote:

>And on a side note, for those Denny Quiet Village fans out there:  Have you
>ever wondered how his fingers survived that "cascade" that he repeatedly
>performs in Quiet where he slides his fingers all the way down the keyboard?
>Did he use something on his fingers?  After a while that's gotta hurt.

It's not that difficult, really. You use your thumb and first two finger.
The index finger will eventually become calloused, but it comes with the
territory.

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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues - payola
Date: 09 Jun 1998 11:49:42 +0000


> I thought it had something to do with the record companies paying DJ's under
> the table to give their records favorable play time.

Yep, but I thought the illegal part was not reporting the income,
thereby making it a tax-issue. I think they can play whatever the hell
they want for whatever reason. It's not suprising at all.

Y'know, come to think of it, the movie Quiz Show fell flat (IMO) for
the same reason: What's the suprise in networks (or at that time the
producer/
sponsors) manipulating contestants to skew ratings?


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Subject: Re: (exotica) record companies pay and pay
Date: 09 Jun 1998 17:00:31 EDT


In a message dated 6/9/98 1:09:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> as a label guy, i can honestly tell you, the labels have to
>  pay for EVERY special 'highlight' of their albums promotion
>  at retail.

I can verify that everything he has said here is true, and sad.  That is why I
say if you are fortunate enough to live in a place that has a cool
independently owned local record store, give them your business.  They do not
get all that extra money that the chains do for putting CD's up front in the
new release rack, or for featuring them in their listening stations. In fact,
since places like Best Buy purchase CD in HUGE quantities, sometimes they can
sell discs for less than an indie store has to pay for it.
So, if there is a hot indie store that stocks what you like, they are stocking
it because you like it --- not because it is what some corporate guy tells em
to do. So buy it from the local merchant even if it is $1 more.  Otherwise,
that store may go out and leave you no alternative except Blockbuster. That,
indeed, would be VERY sad.

Larry


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Help!  (Air)
Date: 10 Jun 1998 00:16:55 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-09 10:55:25 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Does anyone know if Air's Premiere Symptomes EP is now out of print?
 It's quickly disappearing from on-line stores and I can't seem to order a
copy. >>


Yes it is out of print....however plans are in the works to possibly re-issue
this release in an expanded form with additional tracks.

ashley


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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Help!  (Air)
Date: 09 Jun 1998 22:56:04 -0700 (PDT)


I just purchased "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," and was wondering if
volume 1 is still around.  There is no information on the label or sleeve
about the recordings.  I presume it is a bootleg.  Can anyone give me the
details about vol. 1, and if it is still around for purchasing?  Thanks.

-----------------
Tosh Berman
TamTam Books
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From: Lissla <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg... need help locating something and finding out if it exists..
Date: 10 Jun 1998 02:37:17 -0400


Hi.. :)

I'm new to this list, and joined at the suggestion of someone who
thought that I might be able to get the info I need here.

You all know, or may know the song   Je t'aime moi non plus  by
Serge Gainsbourg.

There is a version with Bardot and a version with Jane Birkin.

What I'm looking for, and what I could have sworn I heard once, is a
version in which he sings the whole song..   I know it's more of a duet,
but I could have sworn I heard it.. and it was supposed to be on the
Soundtrack of the Full Monty, but wasn't, as a result of licensing
problems.

I've searched and have located several CDs with this song.. both with
the Bardot and Birkin version..  Could someone tell me if there is a
Serge only version?  And if so, which CD?

If not, could someone tell me which CD has the song AND has similar,
more sensual, romantic, erotic, type music?   This is for a wedding
night.. and it's coming up, so I need the info if anyone has it..   if
there is no Serge only version, I'd like to know which CD will have
other songs that will suit the mood best, since Serge has several CDs
some foreign, with that song on it..  I want to pick the best one for
the time it is to be played. :)

Thank you all in advance for your advice

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) World Cup
Date: 10 Jun 1998 11:05:28 +0100






Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
06/10/98 06:05 AM


cc:


I know that this is highly off topic but does anybody know where I can tune
into the Brazil/Scotland match today on the www? Real audio/video?


Thanks



and Sorry




CM





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Who Composed
Date: 10 Jun 1998 12:34:00 UT


the Sanford and Son theme.  Wasn't that Quincy Jones?
Is there a long version on any albums?
Or covers?

Also, didn't he do the Fat Albert theme too, or was that someone else?

PeterR


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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) He Composed!
Date: 10 Jun 1998 09:04:07 -0400


Jones did write the Sanford and Son theme.  He also did the Fat Albert
theme, as well as "Hikky Burr", the theme to the "Bill Cosby Show".   I
don't know of a long version of the Fat Albert theme on any media.  I do
know the TV version is on some collections.

He also produced some Lesley Gore records, to show you how varied his career
is!


Brian Phillips

> the Sanford and Son theme.  Wasn't that Quincy Jones?
> Is there a long version on any albums?
> Or covers?




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Subject: Re: (exotica) He Composed!
Date: 10 Jun 1998 14:45:51 +0100


>Jones did write the Sanford and Son theme.  He also did the Fat Albert
>theme, as well as "Hikky Burr", the theme to the "Bill Cosby Show".   I
>don't know of a long version of the Fat Albert theme on any media.  I do
>know the TV version is on some collections.

i may be getting this wrong, and 'Fat Albert' (whatever that is) is not one
of the numerous US shows that we get over here, but i have a herbie hancock
album (a double CD warner bros compilation - totally stunning, particularly
the electric jazz stuff on disk 2) which has "the theme" to 'Fat Albert
Rotunda' on it ... did herbie just play this, and not compose it (unusual)?
or is this a different tv programme or what? it's pretty good in a funky
60s jazz kinda way, but i prefer herbie's more, er, "heavy duty" stuff with
his mwandishi band ...

also, 'hicky burr' is available on the fantastic quincy jones album
'smackwater jack' (CTI?), featuring ludicrous "singing" by bill cosby.
super funky though. the album features other great tv stuff:smackwater jack
- mmmm nice; ironside - almost proto-drum'n'bass etc. .... as well as a
cool cover of 'what's goin' on' with quincy singing, and an extraordinary
piece which tracks the history of the 20thC guitar music - features the
great jim hall .... very nice ... picked up the vinyl in rays jazz shop,
shaftesbury ave, london, t'other day for about 15 notes ...

ciao,
dan.

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From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who Composed
Date: 10 Jun 1998 07:57:25 -0700



>the Sanford and Son theme.  Wasn't that Quincy Jones?
>Is there a long version on any albums?
>Or covers?

The full-length version (3:06) of the SANFORD AND SON theme can be found on
QJ's Greatest Hits (A&M; 1996).  I don't know which album originially
carried it, but I remember it was also entitled "The Street Beater" or
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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re-Composed!
Date: 10 Jun 1998 11:31:33 -0400


> i may be getting this wrong, and 'Fat Albert' (whatever that is)
> is not one of the numerous US shows that we get over here, but i have a
> herbie hancock  album (a double CD warner bros compilation - totally
stunning,
> particularly the electric jazz stuff on disk 2) which has "the theme" to
'Fat Albert
> Rotunda' on it ... did herbie just play this, and not compose it
> (unusual)?  or is this a different tv programme or what? it's pretty good
in a funky
> 60s jazz kinda way, but i prefer herbie's more, er, "heavy duty"
> stuff with  his mwandishi band ...

Fat Albert Rotunda was an album (and song)that mentions the character (a
staple of Bill Cosby's Routines before the TV show).  FAR was written by
Herbie Hancock.

Ricky Sheldon and Edward Martin Fournier composed the Fat Albert theme.
Sheldon and Fournier seem to have been called on for Filmation Studios,
having written the Hardy Boys Theme and The Archies '73 themes.


Sorry about the misinformation folks!  I found out about this by looking at
the BMI database (hyper repertoire) at http://www.bmi.com
> also, 'hicky burr' is available on the fantastic quincy jones album
> 'smackwater jack' (CTI?), featuring ludicrous "singing" by bill cosby.
> super funky though. the album features other great tv
> stuff:smackwater jack

Smackwater Jack was on A&M in 1971, actually (thanks http://www.allmusic.com
.  If you would like to see a picture of the single of Hikky Burr, I have it
on my page at http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/u.html  and you'll get a
small chuckle out of the artist's credit!  Take a look at other labels while
you're there if you like!

Hey(3),
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel  reissues - payola
Date: 10 Jun 1998 04:31:29 -0600


At 14:34 09/06/98 EDT, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 98-06-09 14:17:09 EDT, you write:
>
><< I always thought payola was an income tax issue -
> unreported income and all like that.
> > >>
>
>I thought it had something to do with the record companies paying DJ's under
>the table to give their records favorable play time.
>
>It was reported to me (never admit it) that "payola" was the subject of a
>recent Beverly Hills 90210 .  The person who told me this said that he (again,
>never admit it) was watching the show because there was supposedly some
>"lounge" acts that were suppose to be on this season.

Actually, there was a Beverly Hills episode regarding a band getting radio
play due to the station getting paid. I don't know if that is legal, but I
know in the UK, there are "strike forces" that market to chain stores that
arrange things like listening posts. I think the charge is for the extra
posters and stuff they add in. It isn't like "give us the money,and we'll do
a listening post". They do have to "like" your LP before they put it on the
post. AND I don't know that ALL shops make you pay. I think some individual
shops in the UK have some say on what gets on the posts. BUT general
speaking, if you see something racked in the window or on a listening post,
three to one, a helluva lot of cash was spent by the record label to make
sure that happened. Direct payola? Not necessarily. There are plenty of ways
of giving the shops cash without ACTUALLY giving them cash. And it isn't
just the major labels that do this. Large independent labels do the same
thing and play the corporate game. If you don't, it's VERY difficult to get
big meaty sales.

As someone who is passionate about music AND works in the music industry,
nothing made me more disgusted than to find out exactly WHY I can find
certain releases and not others. It is all about MONEY. There are a few
brave warriors out there who actually care about music, but most of them
barely scratch out a living. Sad, but true.

Enough of my morning rant.

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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re-Composed!
Date: 10 Jun 1998 09:34:34 -0700


Brian Phillips wrote:
>

> Ricky Sheldon and Edward Martin Fournier composed the Fat Albert theme.
> Sheldon and Fournier seem to have been called on for Filmation Studios,
> having written the Hardy Boys Theme and The Archies '73 themes.

i was always under the impression that bootsy collins *sang* the fat
albert theme.........?? he may not have written it, but he could have
sung it, no? (i'm thinking specifically of the "hey hey hey" part....)

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Subject: (exotica) Payola
Date: 10 Jun 1998 13:10:46 EDT


I thought this was interesting:

pay*o*la (noun)

[pay [1] + -ola (as in Pianola, trademark for a player piano)]

First appeared 1938

 : undercover or indirect payment (as to a disc jockey) for a commercial favor
(as for promoting a particular record)

and:

payola (pΓ-o┤le) noun
1.    Bribery, especially the bribing of disc jockeys to promote records.
2.    A bribe, especially one given to a disc jockey.
[Probably PAY(OFF) + (Victr)ola, a phonograph.]

The American Heritage« Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition
copyright ⌐ 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from
InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.

So it is definitely related to air play.  I find it interesting because one
definition links  Pianola and the other Victrola (I have both a Victrola and a
player piano -Aeolian - thus more testament to my exotic (e.g. strange) taste
in music.

And if you think this word origin is interesting try "testament".  Oh boy.

Robert


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Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack, 5-17-98
Date: 10 Jun 1998 12:41:33 -0700


 KFJC play list 5/17/98 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                    TRACK                    ALBUM
 The Planets               Chunky
 Don Elliot W/             Mis Wiss-Key             Abc Paramount 1956
 Quincy Jones Arrgmt

 Robert Maxwell            Lefty's Hideout          M-G-M
 Hotel Easy                The Jet Setters
 Air                       Le Femme De Argent       Moon Safari
 The Ventures              Pedal Pusher             1964, Stereo
 Elmer Bernstein           Smitty's Place           Some Came Running Ost
 John Corgliano            1st Hallucination        Altered States
 Bill Plummer              Journey to the East      Cosmic Brotherhood,
Impulse
 Elec Concept Orch.        Rock Me!                 Limelight!
 Hugo Montenegro           Yale's Pool Room         Lady in Cement

 Jackson, Mike             The Wisdom of Master     Revenge of Mister
                           Shen                     Mopoji, the

 D. Hyman/B. Bacharach     After the Fox            Instrumental
 O'Donel Levy              Bad Bad Simba            Arr X Manny Albam
 Angelo Badalamenti        Freshly Squeezed         Twin Peaks

 Perrey, Jean
 Jacques/Chazam,D.         Clones War               Eklectronics

 Eskimo (Soundtrack)       Plain View               Some Prefer Cakes
 Ananda Shankar            Metamorphosis            Reprise, 1970
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 Oscar Brown Jr.           Lucky Guy

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 Chaino                    African Jazz             Africana and Beyond
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 Mindexpanders             Love Syndrome            Dot, Stereo
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 On Her Bed of Roses       Walk to Hell-Destruction Joe Greene Ost
 John Graas Septet         6/4 Trend
 Leith Stevens Orch        Hotshoe                  The Wild One Ost
 Marvin Gaye               Sexual Healing           45 Rpm

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                           Parade

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From: "NATHAN MINER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) NovaBossa CD
Date: 10 Jun 1998 15:36:59 -0400


Anybody have this BossaNova comp CD on Verve??

Was just wondering how it is.  Saw it in a catalog.

How about Jimmy Smith: The Cat.... The Incredible Jimmy Smith???

Saw this in the same catalog.

Thanks!

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From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 10 Jun 1998 20:00:26


>heavy music consumers tend to be down on the labels for high
sticker prices, but in reality that is only because they have no
way to know the inner workings of the trade.

CD's sell for $16 and more yet cost well under a dollar to press, even for
a small label. The labels keep the lion's share of that $16, yet pay all of
these silly promotional costs to insure that only major chains can afford
to stay in business. Big stores get all of those co-op benefits to put the
top ten on sale at $12.99 (especially chains that sell big ticket
electronics goods and can justify selling CDs as a loss leader), which the
small store must then match, essentially selling them for no profit. Even
when selling CDs for full list price a small retailer who buys from a
wholesaler is making less markup than almost any other retail product sold
in the same mall. That's the cost of being in a "glamour" business, I guess
(record stores make much more profit on things like blank tape, which also
come from large manufacturers who do heavy advertising).

If major labels can't figure out how to affordably reissue a record that
made its recording budget back 40 years ago, that's their dumb fault. And
if Bar None accepts a rip-off deal from the major in turn because they're
desparate for credibility, that's their's.

>retailers contribute little or nothing to popularizing individual
music releases but want to be paid grossy to do what should be
their job anyway.

This is absurd. Most stores, especially the little indie ones, do more
grassroots promotion of stuff actually worth listening to than almost
everyone else in the chain. Yet the majors encourage the "store real estate
rental" tactics that the biggest stores use because they like to deal in
big numbers (and possibly because there's a lot of corruption involved in
the process also).

The big losers in this equation are not big record labels, who are still
trying to figure out ways to collect money from blank tapes sales, radio
play of their product, etc. (revenues which will never see their fair share
go to the artist). It's the consumers, who have every right to be down on
labels for high sticker prices (and they're much higher overseas). If the
big labels and stores have created a fucked-up system and inflated costs of
doing business, that's not the consumers' fault.

Jay Schwartz
(a consumer with no stake in any record stores -- or labels)



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From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 10 Jun 1998 17:38:09 +0000



>CD's sell for $16 and more yet cost well under a dollar to press, even for
>a small label. The labels keep the lion's share of that $16

donkey doo.  first of all, a front line cd wholesales for around $11.25, on
average.

>these silly promotional costs to insure that only major chains can afford

the retail sales marketing costs cited are only one segment of many, in
normal everyday marketing costs shouldered in the current market to attempt
expose releases to the consumer.

have any idea of what it cost to get a song onto pop radio ?   50 grand min,
in
promo costs. then there's videos to make, posters to print, thousands of
promo
copies to give away/mail, supporting the bands early tours, and on and on.

>If major labels can't figure out how to affordably reissue a record that
>made its recording budget back 40 years ago, that's their dumb fault. And

valid point for the industry as a whole.  half of the obstacles are in
royalities/liscensing agreements, which to some degree are trapped
in decades old conventions of the industry.

>>retailers contribute little or nothing to popularizing individual
>music releases but want to be paid grossy to do what should be

>This is absurd. Most stores, especially the little indie ones, do more
>grassroots promotion of stuff actually worth listening to than almost
>everyone else in the chain. Yet the majors encourage the "store real estate

was talking predominantly of the national/regional chains and even multi
location indies.  majors lbls didn't encourage, but did 'give in' to the
larger
chain retail practices.  they chains said 'pay, or your album isnt stocked
up
front this xmas....and if you dont another label will...".

>go to the artist). It's the consumers, who have every right to be down on
>labels for high sticker prices (and they're much higher overseas). If
the...

again, the average consumer thinks labels are living in a world of unlimited
resources "on every album release".    it just ain't so anymore.

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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Astroslut
Date: 10 Jun 1998 19:54:49 PDT


Anyone who has the new Astroslut, care to share your impressions of it?

Inquiring minds ...

-- BWY



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Subject: (exotica) basic hip list
Date: 11 Jun 1998 00:04:56 EDT


THE ELEPHANT'S WAIL  Shorty Rogers  "Shorty Rogers Meets Tarzan"  [MGM]
 - Young, bronzed and muscular Tarzan cradling diminutive Shorty Rogers in his
arms graces the cover.

EXODUS  Shelly Manne  "My Son The Jazz Drummer"  [Contemporary]
 - Album made up of Jewish and Israeli folk songs.  Beautiful rendition of the
film theme.

FLIGHT PATTERNS  Joe Puma  "Like Tweet"  [Columbia]

ONE, TWO, BUTTON YOUR SHOE  Mat Mathews  "Swinging Pretty And All That Jazz"
[Design]
 - Harp and accordian highlight this lite jazz LP.

FRECKLES  Ken Nordine  "Twink"  [Phillips]
 - Very short and very odd vignettes presented by the master.  Here, Ken tells
us of his shoehorn having freckles.

LEFTY'S HIDEOUT  Robert Maxwell  "Spectacular Harps"  [MGM]

FREEWAY JAM  Muzzy Marcellino  "House Party Music Time"  [Capitol]

I'M POPEYE THE SAILOR MAN  Ray Martin  "Comic Strip Favorites"  [RCA Camden]
 - Like the title says, each band is dedicated to all of your comic strip
heroes, including Dick Tracy, Flash Gordon, Batman and Tarzan.

THE GIRLS IN BRAZIL  Leo Diamond  "Exciting Sounds From Romantic Places"  [ABC
Paramount]

I WALK THE LINE  Rick Powell  "Switched On Country"  [RCA Camden]
 - You have to hear this to believe it.  Completely wacked out, screwed up
moog version of the Johnny Cash hit.  How does he do the "vocal" part?

I AM THE WALRUS  Lord Sitar  "Lord Sitar"  [Capitol]

AQUARIUS  Electronic Concept Orchestra  "Moog Groove"  [Limelight]

THE WOMAN IS LIKE A FRUIT  Chiitra Neogy  "The Perfumed Garden"  [Pulsar]
 - "Believe me...the kisses, nibblings, suction of the lips, the close
embrace...the visits of the mouth to the nipples of the bosom, the sipping of
the fresh saliva..."
Middle Eastern actress treats the listener to spoken word erotica with sitar
and tabla accompaniment.  Never heard anything like it, have YOU?

CITY WITHIN A CITY  George Duning  "The Naked City"  [Colpix]

HAWAIIAN EYE  Warren Barker  "Hawaiian Eye"  [Warner Bros.]

I'M ALWAYS CHASING BUTTERFLIES  Pete Rugolo  "The Music From Richard Diamond"
[Mercury]

PERRY MASON THEME  Leith Stevens  "Jazz Themes For Cops And Robbers"  [Coral]

SOULFUL STRUT  Horst Jankowski  "Black Forest Explosion!"  [Motor Music]

COMIN' HOME BABY  Claus Ogerman  'Soul Searchin'"  [RCA Victor]
 - I don't know much about Mr. Ogerman, but this is a very good LP.  Lots
organ and guitar.  White bread, All American teens dancing on the cover.

WORKING IN THE COAL MINE  Enoch Light  "Enoch Light's Action"  [Project 3]
 - I love these dance albums.  A railroad spike is used as a percussion
instrument here and the Frug, Watusi or Monkey are suggested dances.

A MAN AND A WOMAN  Lester Lanin  "Thoroughly Modern"  [Audio Fidelity]
 - Do doubt aimed at a younger crowd, this is pretty happening, too.  Great
cover of a sexy, blonde mod doing her thing.


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From: Philip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Stag records
Date: 10 Jun 1998 16:32:07 +1000


Ronnie Wagner wrote:
>
> I'm looking for any and all information on stag LPs that were released in
> the 1970's. .

Hi Ronny,

I have "Midnight Cowpoke" on Funky Finger records. It has a copyright
date "1971". It also says that Funky Finger is a division of Nature
Eve Inc. 1674 Broadway NYC.

The cover notes are sexier than the soundtrack which is risible. How
on earth it landed in a thrift shop in Melbourne Australia I can't
imagine but it is a real gem.

Unfortunately the original "Free Gift inside - genuine french Tickler
worth $2.00" was not there.

There are no credits for the performers but there is a credit for
producer: Ernie Tucker audio:Pat Patterson.

BTW the cover also mentions availablity on tape cassettes and 8 track
catridges so keep looking.

Philip




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Stag records
Date: 10 Jun 1998 16:32:07 +1000


Ronnie Wagner wrote:
>
> I'm looking for any and all information on stag LPs that were released in
> the 1970's. .

Hi Ronny,

I have "Midnight Cowpoke" on Funky Finger records. It has a copyright
date "1971". It also says that Funky Finger is a division of Nature
Eve Inc. 1674 Broadway NYC.

The cover notes are sexier than the soundtrack which is risible. How
on earth it landed in a thrift shop in Melbourne Australia I can't
imagine but it is a real gem.

Unfortunately the original "Free Gift inside - genuine french Tickler
worth $2.00" was not there.

There are no credits for the performers but there is a credit for
producer: Ernie Tucker audio:Pat Patterson.

BTW the cover also mentions availablity on tape cassettes and 8 track
catridges so keep looking.

Philip




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Subject: Re: (exotica) basic hip list
Date: 11 Jun 1998 07:08:04 -0400




Basic Hip wrote:

> THE WOMAN IS LIKE A FRUIT  Chiitra Neogy  "The Perfumed Garden"  [Pulsar]
>  - "Believe me...the kisses, nibblings, suction of the lips, the close
> embrace...the visits of the mouth to the nipples of the bosom, the
sipping of
> the fresh saliva..."
> Middle Eastern actress treats the listener to spoken word erotica with
sitar
> and tabla accompaniment.  Never heard anything like it, have YOU?

Hmmm, the closest thing I can think of is the Yvette Mimieux/Ustad Ali
Akbar Khan lp "Baudelair's Flowers of Evil" on Connoissseur Records. Mind
you it's low on the erotica content but high on the spoken word/sitars &
tablas side!

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From: dan hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) NovaBossa CD
Date: 11 Jun 1998 14:40:36 +0100



>How about Jimmy Smith: The Cat.... The Incredible Jimmy Smith???
>Saw this in the same catalog.

we've got a review of this on motion ...

http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/

i reckon its fantastic ... jimmy smith + lalo schifrin. features the theme
from "the money programme" (for uk readers) ...

cheers,
dan.

---+ dan hill [state51]
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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Stag records / Easy Tempo
Date: 11 Jun 1998 08:41:05 -0400


Hmmmm...... I just wonder if that "Pat Patterson" from Philip's "Midnight =
Cowpoke" is the same Pat Patterson that worked on Herschel G. Lewis gore =
films in the 70's and released his own atrocity called "Doctor Gore???"

****** FOR SALE ******

Save $5 and purchase Easy Tempo Vol. on vinyl (2 LP's) for only $13 =
(including postage).  E-mail me if you're interested.  Vinyl/jacket are in =
excellent condition....

- Nate


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Annotated, extended Playlist Fantastica # 55
Date: 11 Jun 1998 17:11:35 +0200


Fantastica runs on:
* Radio Scorpio, FM 106, Leuven, Belgium, each Saturday 15-16 h.
* Radio Centraal, FM 103.9, Antwerpen, Belgium,
  at irregular times in their "Night Machine".




                          Fantastica # 55: Boo!


 1. Sound Effects: "Strangulation"
       o album "The Essential Death & Horror Sound Effects Vol. 2"
       o CD, BBC | +++
 2. Rex Garvin: "Strange happenings"
       o compil. "Monster's sounds and 'boppin' tracks Volume 1"
       o CD, Marginal MAR 003, Belgium, 1995 | +++++
       o Review: "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/T/Mnstrbop.htm"
 3. LEITMOTIV: Alfred Hitchcock: "Alfred talks about ghosts, while slowly
    drowning in his own house"
       o album "Alfred Hitchcock Presents Ghost Stories for Young People"
       o LP, Wonderland LP 89 mono, USA | +++
 4. John Zacherle: "assorted horror sound effects"
       o album "Monster mash"
       o LP, Wyncote 9050 stereo, USA, 1964 reissue of 1962 original | not
         rated
 5. Criswell: "Someone walked over my grave"
       o single "Someone walked over my grave"
       o 7", Dionysus ID074579 | +++
       o info: piano plus dramatic voice of Criswell.
 6. John Zacherle: "Come with me to Transylvania"
       o album "Dinner with Drac"
       o CD, Transylvania 6-5000 (bootleg), USA, 1997 | +++++
       o Track list:
         "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/A/Zacherledinnerwithdrac.htm"
 7. Vinnie Bell: "Baker St. mystery"
       o album "Big sixteen Guitar Favorites"
       o LP, Musicor Mono | +++++
       o info: Killer LP, 16 very good to superb innovating guitarS tracks!
         Better than anything I've heard by Buddy Merrill or Billy Mure,
         but I guess this was recorded later, and Vinnie learned a lot from
         those 2, and from Les Paul. Also released on the same label as
         "The Best of Vinnie Bell"
 8. Angelo Badalamenti: "Audrey's dance"
       o Soundtrack "Twin Peaks" (TV soundtrack)
       o CD, Warner Bros. 7599 26316 2, USA, 1991 | +++++
 9. Sound Effects: "Chinese water torture"
       o album "The Essential Death & Horror Sound Effects Vol. 2"
       o CD, BBC | +++
10. v/a: "The Shadow"
       o compil. "Themes like old times" (90 genuine original program
         openings from the most famous radio shows...)
       o CD, Radio Yesteryear, USA, 1990 | +++++
       o info: highly recommended! There's a lot of use of a Theatre organ
         on these themes compilation, many themes from mystery and
         adventure series. Contact: <[e-mail]>
11. George Wright + Wade Denning: "The Swan's tell tale-heart all through
    the night MIX"
       o album "At the mighty Wurlitzer" + "Famous ghost stories!"
       o CD, Legacy 7663 407 2, USA, 199? + LP, Mr. Pickwick SPC-5146, USA,
         1975 | ++
12. The Robert Cobert Orchestra: "Epilogue (fragment)/Dark Shadows"
       o Soundtrack "Dark Shadows"
       o LP, Philips stereo PHS-600-314, USA, 1969 | ++++
       o info: Great soundtrack! Both charming, innocent melodies and more
         scary kind of things.
13. Spike Jones: "(All of a sudden) my heart sings (vocal by Dracula and
    Vampira)"
       o album "Spike Jones In Stereo" (A spooktacular in screaming sound!)
       o LP, Warner Bros. 1332, USA, 1959 | +++++
       o info: One of my favorite Spike LP's! Must be the best novelty
         horror concept album ever.
14. Spike Jones and the Band that Plays for Fun: "Spooky, spooky, lend me
    your tomb (Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb)"
       o album "60 Years of "Music America Hates Best""
       o LP, Liberty LST 7154, USA, 1960 | ++++
       o info: Spike's last real novelty album, before he started his "New
         Band" project.
15. Dinah Shore: "Scene of the crime"
       o compil. "Monster's sounds and 'boppin' tracks Volume 1"
       o CD, Marginal MAR 003, Belgium, 1995 | +++++
16. Vic Mizzy: "The Addams House"
       o Soundtrack "The Addams Family" (original music from)
       o CD, RCA 61057-2, USA, 1991, deleted | +++++
       o info: Originally released in 1965. Really worth finding, all of it
         is excellent, fun , slightly twisted and quirky, catchy
         instrumental pop with of course lots of harpsichord.
17. Nina Simone: "I put a spell on you"
       o compil. "Barjazz 2"
       o CD, Verve/Motor 525 878-2, Germany, 1995 | ++
       o info: All in all not really an exciting vocal cocktail jazz
         compilation, Nina Simone's "I put a spell on you" is by far the
         greatest track.
18. Les Baxter featuring Bas Sheva: "Terror"
       o album "The passions"
       o CD, Oriental Pacific (bootleg) | +++++
       o info: Abstract vocals - quote from the liners: "ranging from the
         gutteral snarl of savagery to a delicate and lyric beauty,
         expressing a woman's passions, emotions like despair, ecstasy,
         hate, lust, terror, jealousy, joy." backed by Baxters orchestra.
         In 1 word: wooooooooooooow!
19. Lambert, Hendricks & Ross: "Halloween spooks"
       o album "The Hottest New Group In Jazz"
       o Double CD, Columbia/Legacy C2K 64933, USA, 1996 | +++++
       o info: Halloween jazz vocalese
20. Sesamstrasse: "Flitter-flatter Fledermaus (Transylvanian love call)"
       o album "Die schonsten Lieder"
       o CD, Europa /BMG 74321 18597, Germany, 1994 | ++++
       o info: Yep, the German version of Sesame Street, including a German
         "Mah na mah na" and 2 Beatles covers.
21. The Upperclassmen: "Cha-cha with the zombies"
       o compil. "Monster's sounds and 'boppin' tracks Volume 2"
       o CD, Marginal MAR 005, Belgium, 1995 | +++++
       o Review: "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/T/Mnstrbop.htm"
22. Lewis Lee: "Attack of the killer tomatoes"
       o compil. "Billboard Presents: Family Scarytime Classics"
       o CD, Rhino R2 72457, USA, 1996 | ++++
       o info: Only 10 tracks, but all worth having, including "theme from
         the Munsters", "Bewitched", "Dark shadows", "Twilight zone"...
23. John Zacherle: "Limb from Limbo rock"
       o album "Dinner with Drac"
       o CD, Transylvania 6-5000 (bootleg), USA, 1997 | +++++
24. Film trailer: "The house by the lake"
       o compil. "Forbidden City Dog Food"
       o LP, | not rated
       o info: I was told that this is a bootleg LP copy of a tape that
         used to be played after Cramps live shows; in the style of "Wavy
         Gravy" and the likes, and includes about 14 horror B-movie
         trailers.
25. Jerry Wald: "The Creeper"
       o compil. "Monster's sounds and 'boppin' tracks Volume 2"
       o CD, Marginal MAR 005, Belgium, 1995 | +++++


    album ratings:

         +++++outstanding, ++++very good, +++good, ++not bad, +so-so, -yuk

        the radio pages + "eXotica Releases Overview" on my web site:
        <http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/>


        Johan Dada Vis


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 13:27:50 -0400


At 8:00 PM -0400 6/10/98, Jay Schwartz wrote:

>If major labels can't figure out how to affordably reissue a record that
>made its recording budget back 40 years ago, that's their dumb fault. And
>if Bar None accepts a rip-off deal from the major in turn because they're
>desparate for credibility, that's their's.

Actually, many of the original recordings did not make their money back,
and the artist still must pay the recoupable costs even if their recordings
are reissued some 30 or 40 years later. This, in fact, happened to
Esquivel, who made very expensive records that didn't sell very well when
they were released.

As for a label accepting a "rip-off" deal.........well, it's the only game
in town. You either accept it, or you don't do any reissues at all. It's
that simple. The major labels own the catalog, so you have to do business
with them on their terms. Publishing royalties (controlled by ASCAP, BMI,
SECAM) will never change. Maybe major labels will go back to more
reasonable figures for minimum quantities (when the first Esquivel disc was
liscensed, the minimum was only 3000 copies), although that's doubtful.

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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 10:54:41 -0700


I checked: Conservatively, a minimally packaged CD in the case
and shrink wrapped costs about $1.60 in volumes around 1000.
$750.00 of the up-front costs was for a "glass master," so one can
imagine that the overall production cost drops dramatically as
volume increases. (This included 4 color printing and 2 color
screening on te disk)

This seems remarkably inexpensive, but then you start figgerin'
all the other stuff and the margin gets pretty thin pretty quick.

I keep toying with the idea of bootlegging CD's of rare records
whose appeal is so narrow, that they could be marketed by
word-of-mouth among people who are interested.

The intent should not be to defraud people out of royalties, etc. The
idea is to preserve and distribute some interesting music/whatever
in limited quantities.  An activity that would not likely be feasible
by doing it all by the book. Make some copies, break even, have fun
doing it.... Something like that.


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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Easy Tempo
Date: 11 Jun 1998 14:17:40 -0400


That's Vol. 1 folks.

- Nate


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Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 15:18:51 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-11 13:56:17 EDT,:

<< Publishing royalties (controlled by ASCAP, BMI,
 SECAM) will never change. >>

I've wondered how these companies(???) have worked for years.  Anybody care to
elaborate?

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 15:30:49 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-11 14:04:06 EDT, you write:

<< I keep toying with the idea of bootlegging CD's of rare records
 whose appeal is so narrow, that they could be marketed by
 word-of-mouth among people who are interested.  >>

Wait until recordable CD's are perfected (and affordable) and that bootleggin'
thing may become an afordable reality.

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 15:31:46 EDT


<<I checked: Conservatively, a minimally packaged CD in the case
and shrink wrapped costs about $1.60 in volumes around 1000.
$750.00 of the up-front costs was for a "glass master," so one can
imagine that the overall production cost drops dramatically as
volume increases. (This included 4 color printing and 2 color
screening on te disk)

This seems remarkably inexpensive, but then you start figgerin'
all the other stuff and the margin gets pretty thin pretty quick>>

This would put the cost of your "boot-leg" adventure around 2500 bucks.  Even
at $ 5.00 a piece you would break even if you sold half of them.  I know that
it would be illegal but what a concept.

I guess my major question would be this (and I know I am an ignorant non-
music-business type):

How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing $ 17.00
or $ 18.00?  Now I see how the BMG Record Club makes it (of course it ain't
just the high margins -- it's the idiots that forget to return the little
cards).

Also,  there are tons of classical budget CD's that are "fair" and are only 3
or 4 bucks.  Is the savings based on the low royalities Laserlight, etc. have
to pay?

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 15:29:03 EDT


<<I checked: Conservatively, a minimally packaged CD in the case
and shrink wrapped costs about $1.60 in volumes around 1000.
$750.00 of the up-front costs was for a "glass master," so one can
imagine that the overall production cost drops dramatically as
volume increases. (This included 4 color printing and 2 color
screening on te disk)

This seems remarkably inexpensive, but then you start figgerin'
all the other stuff and the margin gets pretty thin pretty quick>>

This would put the cost of your "boot-leg" adventure around 2500 bucks.  Even
at $ 5.00 a piece you would break even if you sold half of them.  I know that
it would be illegal but what a concept.

I guess my major question would be this (and I know I am an ignorant non-
music-business type):

How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing $ 17.00
or $ 18.00?  Now I see how the BMG Record Club makes it (of course it ain't
just the high margins -- it's the idiots that forget to return the little
cards).

Also,  there are tons of classical budget CD's that are "fair" and are only 3
or 4 bucks.  Is the savings based on the low royalities Laserlight, etc. have
to pay?

Robert


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Sitting Here in Soul Limbo
Date: 11 Jun 1998 10:10:28 -1000


Aloha y'all-

Here's the promised report on Booker T in Hawaii nei... hope this
diversion into sweet soul music is of interest to most exoticans. As
mentioned, he's in town to promote Bravo Channel's new profile on
Stax/Volt that airs tonight at 10pm here (check local listings, and
don't miss it!). There was a pre-reception for the man, the legend
complete with fresh lychee martinis before he went next door to perform
at Border's for over an hour. He was gracious, regal accessible... very
willing to sign my "Melting Pot" album (his wife said was his favorite).
Also knowledgable about exotica, Martin Denny as well! His set was just
him, a baby grand... and the man sings!
He played What'd I Say (the tune that made him want to play electric
keyboards), Thrill is Gone, Born Under A Bad Sign (he wrote it with
William Bell), When Something is Wrong with My Baby (Porter/Hayes),
Ain't No Sunshine, You Don't Know Like I know, Knock On Wood, Hold On
I'm Coming, I've Been Loving You Too Long (not a dry eye in the house),
and Dock of the Bay (MGs were the band on original track and house band
for many of the big Stax hits). He whistled, scat sang horn parts,
charmed with tales of his close pals like Otis, et al... a killer
fuckin' evening!

wish you were there,
Fluid Floyd


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From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) MP3 site
Date: 11 Jun 1998 21:59:09 GMT



Of interest to those involved in the recent discussion of MP3.
-Lou


MP3 Music Universe
Delivering a quick way to find the best sites devoted to MP3 audio,
this site lists the best 50 and ranks them by the number of visits
each day.
World Wide Web: http://welcome.to/MP3MusicUniverse



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From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 14:17:40 +0000



>How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing
>$ 17.00 >or $ 18.00?  Now I see how the BMG Record Club makes it
>(of course it ain't just the high margins -- it's the idiots that forget to
>return the little cards).

it is ALL because of the royalties payable and the MARKETING costs the
record company shoulders to try to expose the artist.  the actual
manufacture
of the cd is almost irrelevant, by proportion.

how much do you think a can of coke actually costs to 'manufacture"
probably one tenth of one cent.  why is there a 3000 percent mark up
on the can of coke?

because coke spends tens/hundreds of millions in marketing their products
annually.  those marketing budgets have to come from somewhere.  they,
like the record biz are not selling anything that anyone actually *needs*,
like a commodity.

artists must usually agree to 50% royalty cut to have their cd's sold by
record clubs just for this reason.  most figure the record clubs are worth
it as they reach large numbers of yokel consumers that dont often shop
for records at retail.

>Also,  there are tons of classical budget CD's that are "fair" and are only
3 >or 4 bucks.  Is the savings based on the low royalities Laserlight, etc.
have >to pay?

like i said; ever see a video produced for a 'Laserlight" cd release ?  It
is ALL in the marketing expenses.  The cost of *manufacturing* an individual
cd is inconsequential, as compared to the marketing expenses that need to
be figured into the cost of a cd to the consumer.

budget classical cd's dont have any royalties payable to chopin or beethoven
from the record companies and they are not 'marketed' in the sense pop music
is.  you have made my point better than i did originally.

paul moshay
mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833
los angeles, calif. 90078
[phone], [phone] fx
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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 17:50:33 -0700



> Wait until recordable CD's are perfected (and affordable) and that
bootleggin'
> thing may become an afordable reality.
>
> Robert

Recordable CD's are great. I've had my CD-r since Christmas and marvel
at he the fact I have not worn the damned thing out.

At this point. CD's are labor intensive for the first copy on the CDR.
First, you have to
digitize the original onto the hard drive, create a playlist, burn the
disk, and then
erase the hard drive (unless you have unlimited space) But once you have a
CD, it can be copied directly. Blank CDR's are about $1.50 each whan
purchased in
bundles of 50. Jewel cases cost about $1.00 each if you buy the cheapies.

A CDR could be used as the master to create a glass master for reproducing
regular CD's too!

I don't doubt we'll soon be trading CDR's instead of tapes. I have done two
mix CD's
so far. they turned out GREAT!

Weee hOOO!


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 21:08:10 -0400


At 3:29 PM -0400 6/11/98, <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Also,  there are tons of classical budget CD's that are "fair" and are only 3
>or 4 bucks.  Is the savings based on the low royalities Laserlight, etc. have
>to pay?

Laserlight does not pay royalties. There is some weird loophole they use -
their records are legally not allowed to be sold in record stores
(although, in many cases, they are). They are supposed to be sold only at
other types of venues, like drug stores or restaurants.

Classical recording royalties go to the orchestra that does the
performance, but contain fewer 'tracks' than your average pop music
release. Plus, as Paul Moshay correctly pointed out, Beethoven and Mozart
were not members of ASCAP and don't get mechanical royalties.

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 20:56:21 -0400


At 3:18 PM -0400 6/11/98, <[e-mail]> wrote:

><< Publishing royalties (controlled by ASCAP, BMI,
> SECAM) will never change. >>
>
>I've wondered how these companies(???) have worked for years.  Anybody care=
 to
>elaborate?

They are collection agencies for musicians. They divide up monetary fees
that are paid to them and distribute them to musicians based on how often
their specific works were used. Everything that uses music - nightclubs,
restaurants, television stations and networks, etc - have to pay annual
fees to these agencies. If, say,  a clothing store in the mall is playing
the radio in it's store, then they have to pay as well (unless it's talk
radio).

Cue sheets detailing songs that were played (on radio, tv, etc) are
collected by the agencies, as well as documentation of record sales. These
are tallied for individual artists, who then get a check in the mail. There
are specific payments for various useages. For example, a BMI registered
composer of a TV show theme gets 72=A2 per half-hour show per station (72 x
the number of network affiliates) for a primetime show. If the show is on
more than 13 weeks, is longer than 40 seconds, and is used in the opening
and closing credits, it is then worth $2.00 per show per affiliate.
Etcetera etcetera.....obviously this translates into a lot of money. The
agencies make their money from what is leftover from the fees they collect.
ASCAP also charges annual dues. Each agency does the same thing slighly
differently.

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From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 11 Jun 1998 22:01:26 -0400


>How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing $ 17.00
>or $ 18.00?


Because you're not paying for the physical materials but for the music and
for the people who bring it to you from the musicians to the record store
clerk.  Even with self-manufactured CDs the artist might charge $10 to $12
if they're trying to undercut the standard price; not only does a good bit
of that markup go to administrative costs but the simple desire to be paid
for their work.  The real shame of current pricing is that so little of it
goes to the musicians.
Lang Thompson
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4

Godzilla Bites! webpage
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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: recording CD's
Date: 13 Jun 1998 00:04:10 +0100


CD's can indeed be copied from ROM drive to
recorder. (though this is subject to the vagaries
and temperament of the computer system I
could not do it until I upgraded my ancient ROM player)

The speed of the recorder and ROM player
are the determining elements of how long the
transfer takes. Most ROM drives sold today are 16
to 20x it seems, while recorders are 4x
(most are 2x.) The Nx refers to the multiple of
real-time speed, so 2x is two times faster than realtime
and would take one minute to record two minutes of audio.
So in most cases, a CD would transfer in half of it's audio
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Wed June 17, SF
Date: 12 Jun 1998 04:31:22 EDT


Wednesday June 17
Otto von Stroheim djs for the second and third the best surf bands in the Bay
Area*
POLLO DEL MAR & AQUA-VELVETS
Cafe DuNord
2170 Market Street


*(Jumbo Shrimp are #1)


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Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 07:58:38 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-11 21:13:38 EDT, you write:

<< Paul Moshay correctly pointed out, Beethoven and Mozart
 were not members of ASCAP and don't get mechanical royalties.

 br cleve
  >>

Funny, i read somewhere that the guy who cataloged Mozart (his initials are
often seen before or after the title - something like DVM or MVD - I'm too
lazy to go to my CD collection) has an estate that still collects.

I also heard that the "Happy Birthday to You" song collects royalities too and
that it is the most played song out there.  Comments?

Robert


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Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 08:02:49 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-11 22:00:49 EDT, you write:

<< The real shame of current pricing is that so little of it
 goes to the musicians. >>

I quess this is my point -- there are too many middle men uping the price all
along the way.

OK, next debate:  If it cost about the same to produce a CD vs. a record why
were (and still are) CD's priced twice as much as a record?  And let's assume
that when CD's first came out that they were more expensive to produce.  They
certainly are not now.  Why hasn't the free market driven the prices down?
Will anyone admit/confirm that the prices are proped up?

Mulder told me it was a conspiracy.

Robert


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Recordable CDs
Date: 12 Jul 1998 13:25:37 UT


I got a recordable CD-ROM drive for me birthday, and it rules, quite nicely.
I have plans to burn CDs of my favorite albums to take to work, including:

a Lenny Dee/Dick Hyman two-fer
a Warren Kime/command accordian guy two-fer (hey, I'm at work, I can't remember
names)
a Dick Schory/other various percussion type albums I've got two-fer, plus  :)
and a mix or two of all the great single cuts off the bazillion albums and 45's
(!!!) I have.
I'm also dropping good cuts from mix tapes I and friends have made onto CDs as a
preservation/listen at work technique.  Needless to say, I'm veddy veddy
excited.

PeterR


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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 14:10:50 +0100






Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
06/12/98 09:10 AM


cc:


All prices areapproximate........


CD:

Take a dat or other digital musical source to the CD plant with your
artwork, hand it over, wait a day and then go back to collect the frini=
shed
product - plastic cover, folded card artwork, printed CDs - all in boxe=
s
ready to go. Then price your CDs at =A35 each more than they've just co=
st you
and give them to the distributor to sell.
Manufacturing: =A32.30   +=A35  =3D  =A37.30 - Distributor sells to ret=
ailer for
=A38.00, retailer adds rest of final cost on top.


Vinyl:

Take a dat to a pressing plant (if you can find one), wait a couple of
weeks for a free slot, hand over the master dat, collect a test pressin=
g -
go and play the test pressing which will always be mixed badly - too mu=
ch
treble/bass, distortion etc. Return for another test pressing and anoth=
er
test pressing until you are satisfied with the mix. After a few weeks o=
f
toing and froing, finally collect your boxes of slightly mispressed, he=
avy
vinyl, often with dodgy artwork and hand over to distributors.
Manufacturing: =A32.30   +=A33  =3D  =A35.30 - Distributor sells to ret=
ailer for
=A36.00, retailer adds rest of final cost on top.

Why would anyone ever choose vinyl over CD?

Because it sounds better, its more tactile, its a link to the past, it
looks good, it has memories attached and its cooler. Reject the CD.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:31:16 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-12 09:10:53 EDT, you write:

<< Why would anyone ever choose vinyl over CD?

 Because it sounds better, its more tactile, its a link to the past, it
 looks good, it has memories attached and its cooler. Reject the CD.

  >>

Vinyl is cool, I collect vinyl, I love vinyl.   But the durability of CD is
just too hard to beat.  I think we take it for granted but do remember the
convinience we expeirenced when we could first plop a CD in and hit Track 7?
Wow.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Recordable CDs
Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:32:43 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-12 08:36:40 EDT, you write:

<< I got a recordable CD-ROM drive for me birthday, and it rules, quite
nicely.
 I have plans to burn CDs of my favorite albums to take to work, including:
  >>

does anyone want to give us an education on theses?  cost? future cost? etc.?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Recordable CDs 2
Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:53:43 UT


My IDE internal Phillips was like 450 bucks. Add 100 bucks for SCSI (card
included) and like 50-100 for external. Discs are just under two bucks, although
I got fifteen Maxells for 4 bucks through some sort of bizarre mail-in rebate.
She's not super-fast (2x) but I find that I spend hours and hours readying a
disc before I burn it anyway, so it's not like that's holding me back.

I also haven't tried burning disc to disc directly yet, because I understand
that IDE ROM drive to IDE ROM drive isn't fast enough, and I haven't really had
the need.  Instead, I suck songs off my CDs for mixes at 6x read and store them
as WAV files (lots of hard drive room now that I've moved most of my data to
CD-ROMs, hehheh), then arrange 'em and burn a disc.  Theoretically, you can read
from one disc and write to the other a song at a time if you want, but then you
gotta stand around the computer while you're waiting.  This way I can run
upstairs every once in a while and pull off another song, then go about my
business.  It's slower, but with three kids, I only get moments in five minute
increments.  :)

Anyway, I'm real happy with mine so far, but it's only been a few months.
I've heard horror stories about drives-past, but I'm hoping that they've learned
from their mistakes with this one.

PeterR


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 11:21:52 -0400


>>   ASCAP, BMI,
>> SECAM) will never change. >>
>
>I've wondered how these companies(???) have worked for years.  Anybody care to
>elaborate?

I'm finding this thread pretty interesting. . .  BTW if anyone wants to
read, in brain-numbing detail, more about the recording industry (i.e. what
a "mechanical license" is etc.), I recommend checking into a book called
(I think)  _This Business of Music_.

I checked this out of our public library a while ago--and as long as your
idea of fun is reading 600 pages of legal jargon, I promise you'll be
amazed at how convoluted the whole scene is.

This is where I got straightened out on the difference between the
copyright on a *composition* vs. on one particular recording of it.

And in further geek news. . .

>A CDR could be used as the master to create a glass master for reproducing
>regular CD's too!

The software that comes bundled with most CD-R's is not quite up to this
task, though. . . (email me off-list for details--actually there is a whole
CD-R mailing list out there somewhere.)

Cheers,

 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 09:31:17 -0400


At 7:58 AM -0400 6/12/98, [e-mail] wrote:

>I also heard that the "Happy Birthday to You" song collects royalities too and
>that it is the most played song out there.  Comments?

I know there is an actual composer and publisher on that, although I doubt
if the companies send out agents to lurk in the bushes by kids birthday
parties, waiting to collect their milk money. Let's face it, they're not a
federal agency. Hopefully they hit up all the bad singing waiters and
waitresses at restaurants, though.

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 17:49:21 +0100






Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
06/12/98 12:49 PM


cc:


I have an old laser guided, enclosed Sharp record player that I can put a
record in and press track 4. The arm crawls along and places itself
correctly at the start of track 4. But I don't want that. I want to be able
to lift up and put down the needle wherever I want. I want to flick through
tracks by placing the needle in a thin looking groove for a second or two
to find the break or hear the strange phasing bit. I don't want to look at
a crappy digital readout. Theres nothing cool about that.

And who says CDs are more durable? Prove it. (The average life of a music
medium is 25 years before the industry invents a new format. If the
industry tries to introduce a new format in the interim, it is doomed to
catastophic failure, or an existence as a secondary format). Soon the CD
will be no more and there will be another, more expensive supposedly better
format. will you all be saying its better, or will you be hanging on to
your CDs saying I don't want to change format - theres nothing wrong with
the old format?

There was nothing wrong with vinyl exept it did not make as much as a new
media could and so in the name of profit the CD was introduced. As somebody
on this list commented earlier, the whole industry is based around profit
first, music second. By hanging on to your vinyl, you're hanging onto your
music and declaring your loathing for profit-driven record company flesh
eating zombies from.. (sorry, getting a bit carried away now)



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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:34:27 +0200


>From: [e-mail] (Tosh)

>I just purchased "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
 <cut>
> Can anyone give me the details about vol. 1

    can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have?
    i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting...
    so, what's on it, actually?

        Johan


        [e-mail]   +   [e-mail]


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) C.A.M. Original Soundtracks
Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:26:54 +0200


>Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:36:43 +0200
>From: CAM Original Soundtracks <[e-mail]>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: C.A.M. Original Soundtracks
>
>RE:        PRESS RELEASE (for MUSIC Editorial)
>        C.A.M. Original Soundtracks label NOW ON LINE
>
>ROME, ITALY
>June 1998
>
>C.A.M., 37-year old music publisher and independent record label
>specialized in motion picture soundtracks, has revamped its website
>(http://www.cam-ost.it) and is now up and ready on-line.
>
>The new site now enables you to listen to the C.A.M. record catalog and
>allows you to browse among the 200+ CD soundtracks, retrieving precious
>information on each soundtrack (such as track listings, composer
>biographies etc.)  The site is in English and Italian.
>
>Ideal for film music aficionados and film lovers alike, the new commerce
>enabled website now allows the visitor to safely shop for their favorite
>soundtrack CD with ease.
>
>Learn about C.A.M. Original Soundtracks, its past and present activities
>and its latest productions at its new website (http://www.cam-ost.it).
>
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>Via Cola di Rienzo 152
>00192 Roma (Italy)
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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:15:23 -0700 (PDT)


>>From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
>
>
>        can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have?
>        i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting...
>        so, what's on it, actually?
>
>        Johan
>
>
>   It has 24 songs.  The only recording I am familar with is Anna Karina's
>(Jean-Luc Godard's ex-wife and actress) "Roller Girl."  This is a
>Gainsbourg piece.  The other's I don't know about.  There are no
>songwriting credits.

The listings:

ANOUK           Jimmy est parti
MICKY AMLINE    Look
GILLIAN HILLS   Maintenant il telephone
DANI            Le chpoum
ARIANE          Tu voudrais que j'oublie
ALINE           Censure
ANNA KARINA     Roller Girl
STONE           C'est ma vie
PUSSYCAT        Ba Ba Ba..Boof
ELSA            Ecoutez
CLOTHILDE       jE T'AI VOULU ET JE T'AI BIEN EU
RIA BARTOK      Un mauvais quart d'heure a passer
ALICE DONA      Une voiture rouge
PATRICIA CARLI  Le lion
CLEO            Parti-pris
GERALDINE       Les chattes
PUSSY CAT       La La La
JOCELYNE        La La La La
EILEEN          Ces bottes sont faites pour marcher
JOANNA          Hold-up Inusite
BELISAMA        Belisama (2e partie)
CHRISTINE PILZER  Mon p'tit homme spatial
LOUISE CORDET   Que m'a-t'il fait?
MARIA-Cinta     Allez, tapez, dans les mains

So that's the track listing.  I suspect this is a bootleg, because there is
no name of the label, no info about the tracks, etc.  Also it was
domestically priced (US)

So if anyone can give me information about vol. 1 or some background on the
above artists that would be great.

-----------------
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TamTam Books
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From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:47:50 -0700


At 10:31 AM 6/12/98 EDT, you wrote:
><< Why would anyone ever choose vinyl over CD?
>
> Because it sounds better, its more tactile, its a link to the past, it
> looks good, it has memories attached and its cooler. Reject the CD.
>  >>
>Vinyl is cool, I collect vinyl, I love vinyl.   But the durability of CD is
>just too hard to beat.  I think we take it for granted but do remember the
>convinience we expeirenced when we could first plop a CD in and hit Track 7?
>Wow.
I fully realize I will be in the vast minority on this opinion, but thought
I'd share my sure-to-be-unpopular point of view.  I prefer cd's.  I agree,
they are more durable.  Why?  They can have all kinds of scratches, and
play like new.  Minimal care will provide a lifetime of listening enjoyment
- the same could be said of vinyl, but with a bit more than minimal care.
And (I know I'm alone on this, no need to flame) I prefer the sound quality
of a cd that has been properly remastered.  Not to mention the absence of
surface noise, pops and pings, etc.  I've heard all the arguments - warmer
noise, blah blah - which can be true if the cd was digitally mastered with
no thought - but when a digital mastering engineer does the job right, my
opinion is the sound quality can't be beat.
I do have vinyl, but usually only because it's not on cd yet, or it's
priced too low to pass up.
Of course, this is all a matter of personal taste - if you prefer the sound
of vinyl, more power to you - but you'll never convince me you're right.

Dave


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 14:21:48 -0400


[e-mail] wrote:

> Vinyl is cool, I collect vinyl, I love vinyl.   But the durability of CD is just too hard to beat.  I think we take it for granted but do remember the > convinience we expeirenced when we could first plop a CD in and hit Track 7?
> Wow.

Okay, that's a given - but as I'm discovering now, the convenience of
playing CDs does come at a price.  If I want to listen to vinyl, I just
put an LP on my turntable.  It works, period.  However, to listen to
CDs, you need a functioning CD player.  If the player starts to act up,
you can't play anything! So you either get it repaired, or toss it out
and replace it.  It's sort of like typewriters vs. computers - yes, one
is way more convenient, and once you have one you don't know how you
ever managed without it - until it breaks!!!

cheryl (currently using my CD-Rom to listen to CDs, which is a bit of a
pain...With my luck, the computer will crash next...

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations
Date: 12 Jun 1998 14:29:27 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-12 11:50:01 EDT, you write:

<< I think if you play an EZ Listening station, you're probably alright!!
 (this was in ref to royalities if I played it in my office. ed.)
 br cleve
  >>

actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays her.
they never mention the time of day or weather.  the main DJ in the morning is
Jeff Rollins.  i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this
"station".

there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and
there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station was
replaced with the previous one.  any comments on either?

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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) CD and (NOT VS.)  Vinyl
Date: 12 Jun 1998 12:12:44 +0000


cheryl wrote:

> It's sort of like typewriters vs. computers - yes, one
> is way more convenient, and once you have one you don't know how you
> ever managed without it - until it breaks!!!

Turntable and typewriters break too, y'know.

I prefer a REAAALLLYY nice piece of vinyl, but since collectible
vinyl in good condition is WAY spendy, I have grown to appreciate
CD reissues and copies lovingly made by friends.

I foresee the only way I am going to be able to keep up my habit
is to buy records, copy them to CD and sell the vinyl (sniff.)
This has been my plan for some time, but I JUST CAN"T PART
WITH THESE RECORDS.

Both formats have their allure, though. CD's are much more convenient -
especially for DJing. I do prefer handling records when I am not rushed.
Cleaning a cueing a record is a beautiful ritual, and since it takes a
moment
for the turntable to get up to speed, segueing tracks precisely takes
more skill
and practice.
>
Ron


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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 12 Jun 1998 12:49:24 +0000


I thought I would share this with youse,
since it is somewhat topical.

A friend just called and wanted me to put some
78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied,
not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me:
Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally.
Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo..

Now I just gotta sit down with the calculator
and figger what percentage I need to increase, which
leads me to wonder WHY 16, 331/3, 78 RPM?  They seem
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From: Sevo Stille <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 12 Jun 1998 22:46:17 +0200




Ron Grandia wrote:

> A friend just called and wanted me to put some
> 78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied,
> not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me:
> Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally.
> Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo..

Things are more complicated than that - 78's use a different equalization than
the RIAA curve of 33's and 45's, and, worse than that, there were numerous
different eq settings for 78's across time, countries and manufacturers. For
perfect results, you would have to de-RIAA the recordings (I've seen a RIAA eq
curve for Cooledit available somewhere on the net), pitch them up, and put them
through eq curves selected to fit the date and label. At the very least, you'll
have to do some equalisation based on subjective criteria.

> Now I just gotta sit down with the calculator
> and figger what percentage I need to increase, which
> leads me to wonder WHY 16, 331/3, 78 RPM?  They seem
> somewhat arbitrary.

Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable
variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or
non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record
length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the
listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were
vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm).

45 and 33 1/3 came up as part of a huge format battle in the fourties, when
Columbia (LP, 33 1/3) and RCA (Single, 45) settled for two different systems
for the microgroove successor of the 78rpm record. At least 33.3 was already in
use in professional recording technology prior to that.

Sevo

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Jewels From Cartier"
Date: 13 Jun 1998 12:30:26 -0400


I don't recall seeing this mentioned here before, so I'll throw it in for
discussion. Anyone know more about these people?

"Jewels From Cartier" (RCA LPM-1305)
Compositions by Louis Alter, performed by Claude Yvoire and the Radio Geneva
Orchestra.

Sedate, soundtracky orchestral instrumentals. Mostly in a 40's Hollywood
romanticism vein, with some Baxter-like exotic moments here and there. Mainly
in the exotic-titled tracks: "Pearl Of The Orient", "Topaz Tango", "Black Pearl
of Tahiti", "Lady Of Jade", you get the idea. "Cat's Eye In The Night" includes
a woman making meow noises, along with (quoting the notes), "a jaunty interlude
that suggests a playful kitten scampering around the room." I thought the
maracas representing the litter box were a bit much though (imaginary sentence!
only joking!).

The notes also mention another Alter suite: "Manhattan Serenade". Quoting more
of their breathless prose: "As connoisseurs of American popular music know,
Louis Alter is a composer unusually sensitive to the world of beauty around
him. Thus it was he who saw and heard the spell of Manhattan -- its towering
skyscrapers, its various moods, its Great White Way and its Central Park --
and, dipping his pen deep in melody, etched an unforgettable portrait of tones
and harmonies and rhythms in his unique 'Manhattan Serenade'."

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/
New: "Zounds!" A rotating collection of sound recordings (RealAudio format)
Actually nothing near exotica in this "Extra-Noisy Edition", but there is a
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From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) BMI et al
Date: 12 Jun 1998 19:03:51


On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:27:50 -0400, "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Publishing royalties (controlled by ASCAP, BMI,
SECAM) will never change.

These are performing rights societies, who are not involved with collecting
monies from labels, but from broadcasters and live music venues. They
should have no impact on the cost of reissuing records.



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From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Poor Laserlight
Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:28:48


On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:08:10 -0400, "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Laserlight does not pay royalties. There is some weird loophole they use -
their records are legally not allowed to be sold in record stores
(although, in many cases, they are). They are supposed to be sold only at
other types of venues, like drug stores or restaurants.

Recording artists only have to be paid royalties if their contractual
agreements say that they get them. No weird loophole is required for a
musician to be paid for "work for hire," leaving the label as the owner of
the copyright. I don't think it would matter where they get sold.

>Classical recording royalties go to the orchestra that does the
performance, but contain fewer 'tracks' than your average pop music
release.

Classical royalties work on a completely different system, measuring music
in minutes rather than tracks.

>Plus, as Paul Moshay correctly pointed out, Beethoven and Mozart
were not members of ASCAP and don't get mechanical royalties.

Mechanical royalties are paid by labels to composers. ASCAP collects public
performance fees and theoretically allocates them in proportion to the
number of plays a composer's song got (though in fact the music is
distributed to the most successful artists, since only random sampling is
practical to measure airplay and the fringe artists usually don't register
on the radar). So again, whether Beethoven or Martin Denny or whoever is a
member of ASCAP (and much classical music is still under copyright), it is
irrelevant to the label, who does not deal with ASCAP. Mechanical
royalties, on the other hand, are very relevant.





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From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The rich rich record industry
Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:27:47


On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:01:26 -0400, Lang Thompson <[e-mail]> wrote:

>How in the world does an item that cost $ 2.00 to make end up costing $ 17.00
>or $ 18.00?


>Because you're not paying for the physical materials but for the music and
for the people who bring it to you from the musicians to the record store
clerk.  Even with self-manufactured CDs the artist might charge $10 to $12
if they're trying to undercut the standard price; not only does a good bit
of that markup go to administrative costs but the simple desire to be paid
for their work.  The real shame of current pricing is that so little of it
goes to the musicians.


The point all of these arguments are missing is: CDs are now substantially
cheaper than a vinyl record cost to manufacture 10-15 years ago, yet sell
for substantially more. Of course there are administrative costs, shipping
costs, etc., but that does not explain or justify the imbalance. Vinyl
records TODAY cost MUCH more to make than CDs (especially in small
numbers), yet small labels sell them cheaper than CDs, because they can.
That means everyone COULD sell CDs for less if they wanted to.

On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:38:09 +0000, "mighty recording corp."
<[e-mail]> wrote:or poor record industry

>>CD's sell for $16 and more yet cost well under a dollar to press, even for
>a small label. The labels keep the lion's share of that $16

>donkey doo.  first of all, a front line cd wholesales for around $11.25, on
average.

So you don't think $11.25 is the lion's share of $16? Well, is it the
lion's share of the $12.99 price that stores sell hot titles for to keep up
with the competition? You don't think in both cases the retailer is making
a small to pitifully small markup compared to how most retail stores in
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From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The rich rich record industry
Date: 13 Jun 1998 16:07:14 +0000



>with the competition? You don't think in both cases the retailer is making
>a small to pitifully small markup compared to how most retail stores in
>other fields work?
===============================

i wish record retailing "worked" like other retail arenas.  distribution
in the record biz, is really at best, *consignment*.

if the stores do not sell through what they "bring in/order", they can
simply return the goods (in some instances with some small penalties)
to the distributing label.

retailers do not spend the mega bucks to record and market yours and
my favorite artists.  they use their credit to put some stock on the shelves
and hope they sell.  if they dont, well they return stock and get other new
titles that might.

many retail/mass merchandising fields do not operate with open return
policies.
the retailer is actually responsible for stock they 'order'.  i'm over
simplying
here to illustrate the point, but basically its accurate.

>The point all of these arguments are missing is: CDs are now substantially
>cheaper than a vinyl record cost to manufacture 10-15 years ago, yet sell
>for substantially more. Of course there are administrative costs, shipping
>costs, etc., but that does not explain or justify the imbalance. Vinyl
>records TODAY cost MUCH more to make than CDs (especially in small
>numbers), yet small labels sell them cheaper than CDs, because they can.
>That means everyone COULD sell CDs for less if they wanted to.

the vast majority of releases are a *Loss* financially to record labels.
the
manfacturing cost of an individual cd is inconsequential, as compared to
recording and marketing budgets required.

many of these obscure albums we discuss and cherish here would not exsist
were
it not for columbia, capitol, and the rest selling tonnage quanties of the
'west
side story' soundtrack or 'oklahoma'.  the same kind of logic and biz
realties
apply now.  there would be little development in interesting, off-center
releases
and reissues if the labels do not profit adequately on the few bigger
selling
releases they are lucky to get each year.  thats the straight dope.

paul moshay
mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833
los angeles, calif. 90078
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) just checking
Date: 13 Jun 1998 18:59:32 -0400


My last two postings didn't get through so I'm just checking to see if this
does.

can I sum them up in case they're lost forever?

Record companies want to sell 25 million copies of one record, rather than
25 thousand copies of a hundred different records.
And the records I buy don't usually get big promotion budgets.  Or big
expensive videos like someone referred to.
So yeah, promotion costs are factored into the cost of CD's but it's not
like they're perfoming a public service or something.
I pay the big buck for the new Yo La Tengo CD so that Celine Dion can have
her own hairdresser at the video shoot, as if it requires a special talent
to spray that thing into place.

And point two, someday you'll walk into the room, clap your hands and say
"Quiet Village" and it will come to your ears as if out of thin air.
And if you like convenience, you'll love that.
But I will always want something of my own that I can feel a personal
relationship with.  So when you sell all your CD's because now you've got a
chip in your head, I will buy your CD's.  And that's why now I buy your vinyl.

If those posts do go through, I apologize for the overlap but it's been a
whole day now and so far, they're a no-show.

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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) LP Sale List
Date: 13 Jun 1998 11:01:59


I have weeded through the stacks and pulled out 100+ albums to sell,
including Denny, Enoch Light, Les Baxter, Ray Martin, Stereo Action LPs,
and others.  Everything $10 and under (with one exception).

Email me at [e-mail] if you are interested in getting a
copy of the list.

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From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) clap your hands
Date: 13 Jun 1998 17:38:43 +0000



>And point two, someday you'll walk into the room, clap your hands and say
>"Quiet Village" and it will come to your ears as if out of thin air.
>And if you like convenience, you'll love that.
=====

personally, i'm looking forward to the day every television show since
day one will be available on-demand over this monitor thing.

anyone have a video tape copy of morey amsterdam hosting 'broadway
open house' from 1948 ?  :)

paul moshay
mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833
los angeles, calif. 90078
[phone], [phone] fx
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:17:02 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-12 15:50:54 EDT, you write:

<< WHY 16, 331/3, 78 RPM?  They seem
 somewhat arbitrary. >>

Especially 33 1/3.  And that damn CD format -- the freaking speed is always
alterating.

OK gurus -- get those cards and letters (in email format) coming.

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 14
Date: 14 Jun 1998 00:40:52 -0400


"Space Bop" (formerly "The Single Eye") can be heard every Sunday at 4pm
on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl.
Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space
The Final Frontier!  Comments & questions welcome.

June 14 - The Crime Scene

Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra:  Space Patrol  "Futuremuzik"

United Future Organization:  Fool's Paradise  "3rd Perspective"

Earl Hagen:  I Spy  "The Crime Scene"

The Tiki Tones:  Traitor Vic  "Secret Agent Sounds"

Laika & The Cosmonauts:  Mission Impossible  "Instruments Of Terror"

Gert Wilden:  Rolf Torring  "I Told You Not To Cry"

Billy May:  Man With The Golden Arm  "The Crime Scene"

Oranj Symphonette:  The Pink Panther Theme  "Shots In The Dark"

Picky Picnic & Pyrolator:  Murderer's Night Fever  "Drive To Heaven,
Welcome To Chaos"

Gert Wilden:  Green Spider Theme  "I Told You Not To Cry"

Stereo-Cocktail:  Der Dritte Mann  "Stereo-Cocktail"

Orchester Erwin Halletz:  Die 5 Kolonne  "Kriminal-Magazin"

Los Straightjackets:  G-Man  "Secret Agent Sounds"

Elvis Costello:  Watching The Detectives  "My Aim Is True"

007 Band:  Goldfinger  "Goldfinger"

The Neptunas:  Double-O Seafoam  "Secret Agent Sounds"

Whiskey Biscuit:  A Shot In The Dark  "Shots In The Dark"

Bruce & The Robin Rockers:  Batman  "Batman"

Billy May:  Harlem Nocturne  "The Crime Scene"


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Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 14
Date: 14 Jun 1998 00:40:52 -0400


"Space Bop" (formerly "The Single Eye") can be heard every Sunday at 4pm
on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl.
Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space
The Final Frontier!  Comments & questions welcome.

June 14 - The Crime Scene

Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra:  Space Patrol  "Futuremuzik"

United Future Organization:  Fool's Paradise  "3rd Perspective"

Earl Hagen:  I Spy  "The Crime Scene"

The Tiki Tones:  Traitor Vic  "Secret Agent Sounds"

Laika & The Cosmonauts:  Mission Impossible  "Instruments Of Terror"

Gert Wilden:  Rolf Torring  "I Told You Not To Cry"

Billy May:  Man With The Golden Arm  "The Crime Scene"

Oranj Symphonette:  The Pink Panther Theme  "Shots In The Dark"

Picky Picnic & Pyrolator:  Murderer's Night Fever  "Drive To Heaven,
Welcome To Chaos"

Gert Wilden:  Green Spider Theme  "I Told You Not To Cry"

Stereo-Cocktail:  Der Dritte Mann  "Stereo-Cocktail"

Orchester Erwin Halletz:  Die 5 Kolonne  "Kriminal-Magazin"

Los Straightjackets:  G-Man  "Secret Agent Sounds"

Elvis Costello:  Watching The Detectives  "My Aim Is True"

007 Band:  Goldfinger  "Goldfinger"

The Neptunas:  Double-O Seafoam  "Secret Agent Sounds"

Whiskey Biscuit:  A Shot In The Dark  "Shots In The Dark"

Bruce & The Robin Rockers:  Batman  "Batman"

Billy May:  Harlem Nocturne  "The Crime Scene"


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations
Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:22:02 EDT


Now how about that station with Jeff Rollins?  And btw -- they use to call it
stardust here too.

Robert

<< Hubbard's Cupboard is on the ABC Stardust network.  Personally, I can't
stand
 Hubbard, but I like the music he plays.  IMHO the best dj on ABC Stardust is
Bud
 Brouschard <spelling?>.  Brouschard also used to do (maybe still does) a
great R&B
 oldies show on Sunday night called "Night Train," broadcast on another of
ABC's
 services, the one that has soul oldies.

 [e-mail] wrote:

 > actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays
her.
 > they never mention the time of day or weather.  the main DJ in the morning
is
 > Jeff Rollins.  i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this
 > "station".
 >
 > there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and
 > there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station
was
 > replaced with the previous one.  any comments on either?
 >
 > robert
 >
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write:

<< Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable
 variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or
 non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record
 length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the
 listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were
 vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >>

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations
Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:22:02 EDT


Now how about that station with Jeff Rollins?  And btw -- they use to call it
stardust here too.

Robert

<< Hubbard's Cupboard is on the ABC Stardust network.  Personally, I can't
stand
 Hubbard, but I like the music he plays.  IMHO the best dj on ABC Stardust is
Bud
 Brouschard <spelling?>.  Brouschard also used to do (maybe still does) a
great R&B
 oldies show on Sunday night called "Night Train," broadcast on another of
ABC's
 services, the one that has soul oldies.

 [e-mail] wrote:

 > actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays
her.
 > they never mention the time of day or weather.  the main DJ in the morning
is
 > Jeff Rollins.  i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this
 > "station".
 >
 > there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and
 > there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station
was
 > replaced with the previous one.  any comments on either?
 >
 > robert
 >
  >>


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Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write:

<< Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable
 variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or
 non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record
 length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the
 listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were
 vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >>

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write:

<< Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable
 variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or
 non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record
 length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the
 listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were
 vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >>

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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: 78 rpm
Date: 14 Jun 1998 08:03:23 +0100


An earlier post noted:
> Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable
> variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or
> non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record
> length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the
> listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were
> vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm).

I never saw a player that had that much variation in it: 75-82 was more
like it,
and the adjustment lever linked to a centrifugal speed governor. Built prewar.
We did have a few records that said "speed = 80" on the label but most were
simply 78.

Recordfinders sell specialist decks for playing 78's, and they quote the
following speeds:
>71.29 for Berliners, early Victors (no label), Zonophones.
>76.59 for acoustic Victors (many)
>78.26 for modern 78's
>80.00 for Edison, vertical Pathe (paper label), acoustic,Columbia/Okeh
for more info see
http://www.recordfinders.com/audioeq.html
Their specialist decks cost $380 upwards, but they do a great budget
machine called a Califone at $65 which would look great at a beach party.
Says they were used in schools at one time.

Hugh.


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: 78 rpm
Date: 14 Jun 1998 08:03:23 +0100


An earlier post noted:
> Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable
> variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or
> non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record
> length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the
> listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were
> vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm).

I never saw a player that had that much variation in it: 75-82 was more
like it,
and the adjustment lever linked to a centrifugal speed governor. Built prewar.
We did have a few records that said "speed = 80" on the label but most were
simply 78.

Recordfinders sell specialist decks for playing 78's, and they quote the
following speeds:
>71.29 for Berliners, early Victors (no label), Zonophones.
>76.59 for acoustic Victors (many)
>78.26 for modern 78's
>80.00 for Edison, vertical Pathe (paper label), acoustic,Columbia/Okeh
for more info see
http://www.recordfinders.com/audioeq.html
Their specialist decks cost $380 upwards, but they do a great budget
machine called a Califone at $65 which would look great at a beach party.
Says they were used in schools at one time.

Hugh.


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dada'quariums Exotica update:LINKS PAGES UPDATED
Date: 13 Jun 1998 15:22:45 +0200


I'v reworked my links page; theyre are actually 2 pages: 1 devoted to
mailorder links "the shoppinquarium", and 1 to all other links ("the
linquarium"). And all these hundreds of links have been checked!

Little by little, I'm also adding comments to those links. If your site is
mentioned, just let me know what you'd like to add as description (maximum
255 characters).

Please visit "Dada'quariums Exotica": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
Date: 13 Jun 1998 04:23:19 -0600


At 10:15 12/06/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>>From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
>>
>>
>>        can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have?
>>        i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting...
>>        so, what's on it, actually?
>>
>>        Johan
>>
>>
>>   It has 24 songs.  The only recording I am familar with is Anna Karina's
>>(Jean-Luc Godard's ex-wife and actress) "Roller Girl."  This is a
>>Gainsbourg piece.  The other's I don't know about.  There are no
>>songwriting credits.

Actually, where might I pick this up? Anywhere? It sounds like something I'd
be totally into. French girly pop has been big on my list. Thanks for any
info. Same goes for Vol. 1.

Cheers.

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sinatra alert, F.Y.I.  (lite Exotica)
Date: 13 Jun 1998 03:18:28 +0000


I was just watching Tom Snyder and he mentioned Monday's program
will be the first interview with Frank Jr. since his father died.  Should be
very interesting...

paul moshay
mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833
los angeles, calif. 90078
[phone], [phone] fx
new 'reply to' email now: [e-mail]
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
Date: 13 Jun 1998 04:23:19 -0600


At 10:15 12/06/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>>From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
>>
>>
>>        can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have?
>>        i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting...
>>        so, what's on it, actually?
>>
>>        Johan
>>
>>
>>   It has 24 songs.  The only recording I am familar with is Anna Karina's
>>(Jean-Luc Godard's ex-wife and actress) "Roller Girl."  This is a
>>Gainsbourg piece.  The other's I don't know about.  There are no
>>songwriting credits.

Actually, where might I pick this up? Anywhere? It sounds like something I'd
be totally into. French girly pop has been big on my list. Thanks for any
info. Same goes for Vol. 1.

Cheers.

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
Date: 13 Jun 1998 04:23:19 -0600


At 10:15 12/06/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>>From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
>>
>>
>>        can you give us any info about that volume 2 you have?
>>        i never heard about it, and the title sounds interesting...
>>        so, what's on it, actually?
>>
>>        Johan
>>
>>
>>   It has 24 songs.  The only recording I am familar with is Anna Karina's
>>(Jean-Luc Godard's ex-wife and actress) "Roller Girl."  This is a
>>Gainsbourg piece.  The other's I don't know about.  There are no
>>songwriting credits.

Actually, where might I pick this up? Anywhere? It sounds like something I'd
be totally into. French girly pop has been big on my list. Thanks for any
info. Same goes for Vol. 1.

Cheers.

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re: recording CD's
Date: 12 Jun 1998 19:23:22 EDT


are you guys saying you can't record a CD from existing sources directly to
the disc from the source??


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From: Mark Benton Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations
Date: 12 Jun 1998 22:20:14 -0400


Hubbard's Cupboard is on the ABC Stardust network.  Personally, I can't stand
Hubbard, but I like the music he plays.  IMHO the best dj on ABC Stardust is Bud
Brouschard <spelling?>.  Brouschard also used to do (maybe still does) a great R&B
oldies show on Sunday night called "Night Train," broadcast on another of ABC's
services, the one that has soul oldies.

[e-mail] wrote:

> actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays her.
> they never mention the time of day or weather.  the main DJ in the morning is
> Jeff Rollins.  i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this
> "station".
>
> there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and
> there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station was
> replaced with the previous one.  any comments on either?
>
> robert
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From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 14 Jun 1998 06:30:47


On Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:49:24 +0000, Ron Grandia
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>A friend just called and wanted me to put some
78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied,
not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me:
Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally.
Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo..

If you do this with your normal microgroove stylus, you will harm both the
stylus and the 78 records. There are cartridges that can take special 78
styli as well as microgroove (33 & 45) styli.





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From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) clap your hands
Date: 14 Jun 1998 06:37:53


On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:38:43 +0000, "mighty recording corp."
[e-mail]> wrote:

>personally, i'm looking forward to the day every television show since
day one will be available on-demand over this monitor thing.

Most are already lost forever.



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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) THE WHEELS
Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:27:28 EDT


ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WHEELS ON PREMIUM RECORDS IT'S A 45


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) vinyl vs.nothing
Date: 13 Jun 1998 00:44:54 -0400


In my lifetime - if I stop this slow suicide anyway - there will come a
time when music is no longer delivered on any kind of hardware whatsoever.
It won't be some newfangled disc or cylinder.  You'll walk in your
livingroom, clap twice and say "Walk Away Renee" and in a few moments it
will start to play.  Maybe that's 20 years away.  In 15 years, you'll still
have to connect via computer/TV and actually point to the song you want.
And I guess you'll have to choose the version you want to hear.
And probably when this starts up - like when CD's started up - at first
your choices will be limited.  But eventually they'll hire some of the
folks on this list and  then you'll be able to hear whatever you want.
Maybe you'll have the option of downloading it onto a recordable piece of
hardware - so you can play it yourself  - but I suspect that eventually
that option will also be ancient history.
And when that time comes there will be people LIKE ME who will be even more
driven to find old 8-track players and tapes, 78's, cylinders, even CD's...
anything they can find so that they can have a "personal relationship" with
the thing that the music is on.
That's my only real argument with vinyl vs. CD's.
As the convenience increases, the personal relationship decreases.  If you
had 45's or 78's for that matter, you knew every snap, crackle and pop on
that thing.  Now with a CD, many people have never even played the thing
all the way through and if you ask them "what's this song like?", they
usually need to look at the numbers.
Convenience, it's all the rage I hear.
And when the day comes that you have a chip in your head and all you have
to do is think of a song, I'm sure the convenience-freaks will be thrilled.
 And I'll be at the junk store looking for all their old CD's.

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The poor poor record industry
Date: 13 Jun 1998 00:44:51 -0400


At 09:31 AM 12/06/98 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote:
>
>I also heard that the "Happy Birthday to You" song collects royalities too
and
>>that it is the most played song out there.  Comments?
>
>I know there is an actual composer and publisher on that, although I doubt
>if the companies send out agents to lurk in the bushes by kids birthday
>parties, waiting to collect their milk money.

In fact this essentially happened a year or so ago when the publisher of
the song warned the Boy Scouts of America - who are officially homophobic
so who cares about them - that they wouldn't be allowed to sing "happy
birthday" at their summer camps unless they paid royalties.

as far as the rest of this thread goes, I guess I've come to realize that
the recording industry is a force for GOOD, that they are not greedy and
that they do have my best interests at heart.
Which is why they gave me the CD.  For MY convenience.
The fact that they would prefer to sell 25 million copies of ONE record
rather than 25,000 copies of 100 different records, well it's better if we
all have the same record, isn't it?
That way we all have something in common and we can talk to each other.
And that's why I don't resent the fact that they make me pay for their huge
promotion budget in spite of the fact that I practically never buy a record
that they spent any money to promote.
The records I buy usually don't have videos, let alone half-million dollar
videos.
But that's okay because I understand that they only want what's best for
me, a member of the record buying public.

Nat



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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) just checking (or Clapping)
Date: 14 Jun 1998 07:15:23 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-13 19:59:39 EDT, you write:

<< And point two, someday you'll walk into the room, clap your hands and say
 "Quiet Village" and it will come to your ears as if out of thin air. >>

This already happens in my house.  I gotta "Clapper" hooked up to my Magnavox
!!!

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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:31:24 -0700


Sevo Stille wrote:
>
> Ron Grandia wrote:
>
> > A friend just called and wanted me to put some
> > 78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied,
> > not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me:
> > Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally.
> > Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo..
>
> Things are more complicated than that - 78's use a different equalization than
> the RIAA curve of 33's and 45's, and, worse than that, there were numerous
> different eq settings for 78's across time, countries and manufacturers. For
> perfect results, you would have to de-RIAA the recordings (I've seen a RIAA eq
> curve for Cooledit available somewhere on the net), pitch them up, and put them
> through eq curves selected to fit the date and label. At the very least, you'll
> have to do some equalisation based on subjective criteria.


RIAA curves aside, i do this kind of conversion all the time, mostly
with old Wilcox-Gay Recordios (in other words, the ultimate *quality* of
the sound is usually not that big of an issue, so the RIAA curves are
pretty irrelevant for my purposes). for those interested, for 45rpm to
78rpm, i adjust the pitch in Sound Forge with settings of +10 semitones
and -46.4 cents. these settings, of course, will apply to any sound
editing app.

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From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:30:33 -0400


The two major problems are that 78s use a different type of needle and that
there's some kind of equalization difference (or something, I'm sure a
techie can provide the details).  Even if you get it to work, it would
undoubtedly sound lousy.  You'd be better off having the friend tape the
78s and use that as a source.  It adds another generation but would be more
simple and workable.  LT


At 12:49 PM 6/12/98 +0000, you wrote:
>
>I thought I would share this with youse,
>since it is somewhat topical.
>
>A friend just called and wanted me to put some
>78's onto CD for him. "No can do." I replied,
>not having a 78 rpm turntable - then it came to me:
>Record them at 45 rpm and speed 'em um digitally.
>Most digital recording software will adjust pitch and tempo..
>
>Now I just gotta sit down with the calculator
>and figger what percentage I need to increase, which
>leads me to wonder WHY 16, 331/3, 78 RPM?  They seem
>somewhat arbitrary.

Lang Thompson
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4

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From: Michael D. Toth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Sale List
Date: 14 Jun 1998 10:27:22 -0000



You wrote:

>I have weeded through the stacks and pulled out 100+ albums to sell,
>including Denny, Enoch Light, Les Baxter, Ray Martin, Stereo Action LPs,
>and others.  Everything $10 and under (with one exception).
>
>Email me at [e-mail] if you are interested in getting a
>copy of the list.

Send me the list!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Syndicated Radio Stations
Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:22:02 EDT


Now how about that station with Jeff Rollins?  And btw -- they use to call it
stardust here too.

Robert

<< Hubbard's Cupboard is on the ABC Stardust network.  Personally, I can't
stand
 Hubbard, but I like the music he plays.  IMHO the best dj on ABC Stardust is
Bud
 Brouschard <spelling?>.  Brouschard also used to do (maybe still does) a
great R&B
 oldies show on Sunday night called "Night Train," broadcast on another of
ABC's
 services, the one that has soul oldies.

 [e-mail] wrote:

 > actually I do -- there is this great syndicated radio station that plays
her.
 > they never mention the time of day or weather.  the main DJ in the morning
is
 > Jeff Rollins.  i'm curious, does anybody on the list familiar with this
 > "station".
 >
 > there was another syndicated station on the same frequency for a while and
 > there was a guy who ran a show named "Hubbard's Cupboard" but that station
was
 > replaced with the previous one.  any comments on either?
 >
 > robert
 >
  >>


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write:

<< Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable
 variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or
 non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record
 length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the
 listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were
 vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >>

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:18:02 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-12 16:49:15 EDT, you write:

<< Originally, the speed on records was nominal 78 - with quite considerable
 variations. Apart from a wide tolerance margin due to often hand-cranked or
 non-synchronised recorders, record companies would often improve on record
 length or dynamics by adjusting the recording speed, assuming that the
 listeners would adjust the speed of their player accordingly (players were
 vari-speed, usually doing about 50 to 90 rpm). >>

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
Date: 13 Jun 1998 16:48:19 +0200


Thanx, Tosh.
unfortunately, i don't know anything about these artists either.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: NovaBossa CD
Date: 13 Jun 1998 19:24:16 +0200


>From: "NATHAN MINER" <[e-mail]>
>Anybody have this BossaNova comp CD on Verve??

    it's a "best of" bossa nova comp (my rate: 4 on 5); if you don't
have anything yet in that genre, it's a good start, as is "jazz 'round
midnight - bossa nova" also on verve (my rate: 5 on 5); this one doesn't
give you the most obvious selections, and it mentions the original albums
tracks were taken from AND if they are available on cd.

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
Date: 14 Jun 1998 17:47:56 EDT


both of the Ultra Chick collections (which I have and enjoy - they span from
classic Ye Ye sounds to girl-groupish orchestrated pop to fuzz guitar w/ girl
vocals) can be gotten through Medium Rare Records on Market Street in San
Francisco.  For those of you outside The City, they have a mail order service.
Just call information for their number.

Jill - I've got a fair amount of this kind of girly pop, including lots of
France Gall, Some Francoise Hardy and a (crushingly expensive) Sheila
collection.  Let me know if you want hear a tape of any of that.

-David


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Subject: (exotica) recent scores
Date: 14 Jun 1998 20:55:52 EDT


Recent scores:

THE BEST OF SANTO AND JOHNNY  Santo and Johnny [CD]
Famous for "Sleep Walk", a big instrumental hit in 1959.  24 tracks (including
Caravan), all quite good.  I particularly enjoyed the second half which covers
a number of early sixties top 40 hits such as "Crying In The Chapel", "Venus",
"School Days" and "Dream Lover".

AFRICANA AND BEYOND!  Chaino [CD]
With 27 tracks taken from a handful of hard-to-find, late 1950's Chaino (CHA-
EE-NO) LP's, close to seventy minutes long and value priced, this is an easy 5
stars.  I would have paid double for this.  Heavy breathing, jungle chants,
bird calls, bongos, percussion, HARD CORE exotica!  A wonderful surprise are
tracks 16-20 that take on a definite rock 'n rock sound and do quite well.

BUBBLES  Free Design [2 ten inchers]
This is the first time I have had a chance to give the Free Design's late
1960's soft pop a try.  Their LP's (Project 3?) are hard to come by and CD's
do exist as very high priced imports. A domestic release is coming in July and
BUBBLES is the Siesta release.  As I heard more about Free Design I dialed
into them as something I really looked forward to getting.  Now that i have
it, well, maybe a Free Design expert can tell me what it is I should be
getting excited about.  I'm not exactly sure I expected out of Free Design,
but what I'm getting after one listen is straight foward soft pop that leaves
me wondering what all the hoopla is about.

BIRD WATCHING  The Nutty Squirrels (Sascha Burland and Don Elliott) [LP]
I found this in the Children's section. Understandable considering the goofy
cover with two toy squirrels looking through a telescope, studying birds.  In
fact, this is an excellent, swinging jazz LP with a sense of humor.  The
squirrels sound similar to the Chipmunks doing scat vocals.

SEDUCTION!  Gregg Oliver [LP]
Written by Billy Rogers, music by Del Staton with Lois Cooper.  On the Art
Sound label, the only way i can describe this one-of-a-kind recording is
beatnik erotica.  The oldest game in the world - the eternal chase -
beautifully set against a background of music that weaves in and around over
and under the spoken word.  Roxanne!


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
Date: 14 Jun 1998 21:37:32 -0400


I have both volumes sitting in front of me - 2 is slightly more pop-like
than 1, but both are superb, and definitely worth picking up if you can
find them.  In Canada, they are distributed by Distribution Fusion.  And
there is no information on mine whatsoever, so they are likely boots.

The track listings for Volume 1 - Ultra Chicks: Filles In The Garage are
as follows:

CLAIRE DIXON: On m'appelle petit bout de chou
LIZ BRADY:  Bas les pattes
CHRISTONE PILZER:  Ah-Hem-Ho-Uh-Err
DANI:  Fille a la moto
ARIANE:  Ice Cream
CLEO:  Les fauves
ALINE:  L'education
ARIELLE:  Goody Goody
LAURA ULMER:  Amoureux d'une affiche
CHRISTINE LAUME:  Rouge rouge
CHARLOTTE LESLIE:  Les filles c'est fait...
OP4:  Attention aux garcons
STELLA:  Nouvelle vague blues
MARISA:  Christine
ALICE DONA:  C'est pas prudent
NICOLE PAQUIN:  Allons dans les bois
CHANTAL GOYA:  Il court les filles
MONIQUE THUBERT:  Booff
ARLETTE ZOLA:  Mathematique elementaire
SOPHIE MANSART:  Au secours Aidez-moi
ANDREA PARISY: Laisse tomber les tabous
CHORUS REVERENDUS:  Dans son euphorie
DLAIRE DIXON:  Je n'ai besoin que de tendresse
NICOLE PAQUIN:  Mon mari c'est Frankenstein


cheryl


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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
Date: 14 Jun 1998 19:53:47 -0700 (PDT)


If I am not mistaken, I think  "Fille a la moto" &  "Mon mari c'est
Frankenstein" are Gainsbourg songs.  I found volume 2 at Arons Record store
in Los Angeles.  I have a feeling it may be hard to find this disk as well
as vol 2.  Hopefully there might be some Ya-Ya collections from France...
are there?


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TamTam Books
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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl ---> digital: a new wrinkle
Date: 14 Jun 1998 08:56:15 -0700




> If you do this with your normal microgroove stylus, you will harm both
the
> stylus and the 78 records. There are cartridges that can take special 78
> styli as well as microgroove (33 & 45) styli.
>

Yeah, I found that out after consulting a friend.  Sheesh, nothin is ever
simple.

I've been keeping my eye out for a  78 player at garage sales,
but so far nothing. I did however score a 70's vintage Pioneer
turntable in PERFECT condition. Beautiful wood cabinet, no
automatic features except for end-of-record return (yay)
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Taylor)
Subject: (exotica) NIN Vynal?
Date: 15 Jun 1998 03:15:01 GMT


I was just wondering if there were any Nine Inch Nails fans out there,
and if any of you Vynal Fans know of any places that sell NIN Vynals.
I don't know why it went from Vynal to Tape.  I haddn't heard anything
on Vynal untill about 7 months ago, which is sad.  I finally did, and
was wondering where the hell Vynals went.  Much easier to clean than
CDs, and superior sound quality as compared to Tapes.  Strange.

   .,sS' -=- -=- -=- -====- -=- -=- -=- `Ss,.
.sS$$SOo   Erik NIN (aKa, Bloodlust.)   oO$$$Ss.
S$$| The Melting Chamber, ANSi Solo-Cartel. |$$$
`S$$Ss,.  . [e-mail] .   .,sS$$S'
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Entertainers
Date: 14 Jun 1998 20:51:28 +0000


I thought it would be fun to go to Las Vegas some weekend and, while I was
there, do some recording on location for the Mr. Smooth Hour.  I'd probably
just record the background sounds and announce over it later, but recording
it "live" may be more realistic (although I am not sure how realistic I
want to be...part of the charm of the Mr. Smooth Hour is the faux nature of
the whole thing).

Regardless, I am thinking ahead and wondering...just what recorded artists
should be featured in such a program: they would have to be both "exotic"
and well-known performers on the "strip."  When I say exotic, I mean they
have a style which applies rhythm  and instrumentation in an atypical yet
entertaining way.  When I think of Las Vegas I think of Frank Sinatra and
Wayne Newton, but there is not that much that they have done that I would
feel right putting in my program.  Louis Prima performed a lot in Las Vegas
and I think that most of his stuff fits in the program fine...but I need to
fill another 55 or so minutes (Prima getting only one of the slots).

So, any ideas out there?

Byron

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From: bsalter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: 78 rpm
Date: 14 Jun 1998 21:28:35 -0000


>
>I never saw a player that had that much variation in it: 75-82 was more
>like it,
>and the adjustment lever linked to a centrifugal speed governor. Built
>prewar.
>We did have a few records that said "speed = 80" on the label but most were
>simply 78.
>

I've seen one record player that had a single horizontal lever which
controlled the speed from 16 to 78+ rpm and anywhere inbetween!
Unfortunately it was not for sale and I didn't get a chance to use
it, but it looked like it would be a lot of fun to mess around with.
I have to say, though, it was also obviously a rather shoddy piece
of equipment, and I imagine the control would be very innacurate...

-Brian


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) recent scores
Date: 15 Jun 1998 05:43:42 -0600



>BUBBLES  Free Design [2 ten inchers]
>This is the first time I have had a chance to give the Free Design's late
>1960's soft pop a try.  Their LP's (Project 3?) are hard to come by and CD's
>do exist as very high priced imports. A domestic release is coming in July and
>BUBBLES is the Siesta release.  As I heard more about Free Design I dialed
>into them as something I really looked forward to getting.  Now that i have
>it, well, maybe a Free Design expert can tell me what it is I should be
>getting excited about.  I'm not exactly sure I expected out of Free Design,
>but what I'm getting after one listen is straight foward soft pop that leaves
>me wondering what all the hoopla is about.

Ultra lush. Ultra smooth. Fab harmonies. Funny and weird lyrics. Great
arrangements. If this was straight forward pop, I would be a lot happier
about pop music. Pop rarely achieves such a balance of sweetness and
strangeness. Positively impossible for me to not smile while I listen to it.
Real class. I know a lot of people who just don't like them - it is
unbelievably sickly. But if you like things like Claudine, The Carpenters,
Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66, 5th Dimension - then I'd say Free Design are
kinda like the grandaddy of sickly late 60s/70s pop. The lyrics are often
times rather odd and the Project 3 band arrangements are very classy. That
is what the hoopla is about.

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Poor Laserlight
Date: 14 Jun 1998 21:20:30 -0400



Regarding the Laserlight CD's, royalties, and where their CD's can and
cannot be sold - the Laserlight story was explained to me by Capitol
Records Brad Benedict [Ultra Lounge producer], who has worked in the record
business for over a decade. If he is incorrect, so be it. Most Laserlight
material comes from labels that have gone out of business.

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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Poor Laserlight
Date: 15 Jun 1998 09:49:29 -0400


One assumes, of course that they pay royalties for the newly recorded
material, such as Jack Lemmon's album of Piano Music.

Brian Phillips




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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moon Gas brag mail
Date: 15 Jun 1998 06:49:25 PDT


I just got informed that i won the LP Moon Gas at an Internet auction
for $50. I am really really happy! Never thought I would find it.

 --Magnus

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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) French Pop!
Date: 15 Jun 1998 11:11:20 EST


Hi:

>Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
> Actually, where might I pick this up? Anywhere?

A mysterious set of CDs without so much as a mention of label, origin,
or sources.  They are distributed through a large and reputable
source in Canada, Distribution Fusion but the manufacturer on the
CDs indicate "Disc Amerique" which if I'm not mistaken is also Canadian.
Being French, I have some suspicion that this set originated from
here in Montreal.  I suppose it doesn't matter where it's from anyway,
the main thing is the set is really good (and not expensive)!

BTW, does anyone know how does this set compares to what's on the
Get Easy! - France compilation?  We Norh Americans have not been
fortunate enough to be able to get much from Motor.  Having luckily been
able to track down Get Easy - Vol. 4 - German Pop  (which is, by the way,
excellent, though among the most expensive CDs I've ever bought!) I'd
like to find out exactly what's on the other 3 volumes in the series. Motor's
website unfortunately doesn't provide much useful information on them
and no store in this City has them in stock or knows how to get them.

Thanks,



Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) French Pop!
Date: 15 Jun 1998 10:19:29 -0400


The Ultra Chicks compilation series originates with the owner of one
of Montreal's best retro-ish record/CD/ephemera stores but
for copyrightish reasons, I suspect, that's not being announced on the
CDs themselves.

A couple of list members emailed me some time ago wondering how
they might get volumes of these.  My apologies for not getting back to you
. . .
I've been on a long conference-and-vacation marathon for a few weeks.
If people still want them, I can perhaps try and find a way in which you
could order them directly from the source.

Will
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From: Mark Turner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) French Pop!
Date: 15 Jun 1998 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT)


> >Re: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2,"
>
> BTW, does anyone know how does this set compares to what's on the
> Get Easy! - France compilation?  We Norh Americans have not been
> fortunate enough to be able to get much from Motor.  Having luckily been
> able to track down Get Easy - Vol. 4 - German Pop  (which is, by the way,
> excellent, though among the most expensive CDs I've ever bought!) I'd
> like to find out exactly what's on the other 3 volumes in the series. Motor's
> website unfortunately doesn't provide much useful information on them
> and no store in this City has them in stock or knows how to get them.

Dusty Groove in Chicago has been getting in lots of Motor
releases.  Check out their web site at http://dustygroove.com.
Most are priced at $20.

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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Records from Florida to Maine
Date: 15 Jun 1998 12:44:24 -0500


Toward the end of August I will be spending a week to ten days on the
road traveling from Florida back home to Maine and I'm seriously thinking
about hitting as many record shops inbetween as I possibly can.

I was hoping to compile a list of places to stop along the way and sort
of determine my route in a connect-the-dots fashion.

I don't expect you to reveal your favorite *fishing hole* but, any shops,
junk stores etc. where I might find some inexpensive (i.e. NOT
outrageously expensive ala Footlights in NYC) exotica/ easy listenin' LPs
 would be nice.

Thanks

Frank

My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's
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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What I found for fifty cents and a question.
Date: 15 Jun 1998 13:20:23 -0400


So I was an an estate sale, where they said "Oh, they're mostly religious
records"...

Music for Relaxation - The Melachrino Strings (RCA LSP-1001!  Second in the
Moods in Music line!!)
Dancing Sounds of Gerard Thifault and Mantboulas Orchestra (Mani Belle)
Rhapsody - Ferrante and Teicher (Urania 78001)
Alfred Newman conducts Selections from Fiorello and the Sound of Music
(Capitol ST1343)
Ray Barretto - Hard Hands (Fania LP 362)
Gyps....
Wait a minute!  What is THIS doing in this religious woman's house!?

Anyway,

The Gypsy Wanderlust with the Phantom Gypsies. (Everest SDBR-1012) 1958

I have yet to hear any of these, but I am very curious about the Gypsy
Wanderlust.  From the liners:

"The Phantom Gypsy, who prefers to keep his identity secret for the time..."
and the liners are written by Nat Hentoff!

My question is this, having checked on the Web and in the newsgroups, I
don't know the answer to this question:  What is the approximate date of the
F&T Urania recording?  It seems to be their only release on the label, so is
it one of their earliest?

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) More Chicks
Date: 15 Jun 1998 14:06:52 EDT


I have come into the possession of an Italian Girly-Pop 6T's cassette with
some real gems done in the girl group tradition of the early 6T's american
groups.....e-mail me privately if this floats your boat......Jimmy


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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) recent scores
Date: 15 Jun 1998 22:06:27 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

>BUBBLES  Free Design [2 ten inchers]
>Now that i have it, well, maybe a Free Design expert can tell me
>what it is I should be getting excited about.  I'm not exactly sure
>I expected out of Free Design, but what I'm getting after one listen
>is straight foward soft pop that leaves me wondering what all the
>hoopla is about.

[sound of jaw hitting soft furnished floor]

The arrangements, the vocal harmonies but most of all Chris Dedrick's
lyrics!!!  You just gotta open your heart to 'em and make them the
soundtrack of your life for a while...

The Free Design released some 6 albums all told so you might need to
give them more of a chance to weave their wicked spell on you.  I
believe there are *two more* FD compilations coming out from Siesta,
so snap those up too.

[pop!]


Robbie

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From: [e-mail] (Kirsten Whitley)
Subject: (exotica) Soccer Samba
Date: 15 Jun 1998 16:13:13 -0500



Hi Exotica Pals,

As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova as she would like,
I ask:
What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical?

I almost think I like the current Nike soccer commercial more than the one a few
years ago, where the congenial European team plays demons from Hell :-)  That
one was an attention getter!

--Kirsten



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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) (Exotica) AdXotica
Date: 15 Jun 1998 14:46:07 +0000


Kirsten Whitley wrote:

> What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical?

There seems to be a quite a swell in the ripples of exotica throughout
popular culture. Another example is the "Something for Cat" knockoff
in a current TV ad campaign for Honda SUV's (I think it's Honda anyway.)


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Las Vegas Entertainers
Date: 15 Jun 1998 19:07:07 EDT


In a message dated 6/15/98 9:30:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> Regardless, I am thinking ahead and wondering...just what recorded artists
>  should be featured in such a program: they would have to be both "exotic"
>  and well-known performers on the "strip."

As far as Sinatra goes I suggest you give a listen to "Road To Mandalay" on
the come Fly With Me album. Lots of gongs, bells, etc...it would classify as
exotica to my ear.

You may also want to try some Frankie Laine, he was very big in Vegas, and
some of his faux Western stuff from the early 60's is truly exotic and great.

Last time I was in Vegas I saw Buddy Greco, he was a singer like Sinatra, but
much more over the top. Some of his records are cool. He used to headline, but
now plays out in the casino area. When I saw him he did this ridiculous but
fun instrumental version of "MaCarthur Park". (Oh, forgot to mention he is
also a piano player)

Finally there is an album by this band called The Los Vegas, a group of native
Spanish speakers from Mexico who do harmony vocal stuff of Vegas style
standards, but with very unusual results.

Good luck with the show, and have fun in Vegas.

Larry


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From: Lia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soccer Samba
Date: 16 Jun 1998 02:26:20 -0300


>Hi Exotica Pals,
>
>As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova as she
would like,I ask:
>What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo
commerical?

"mas que nada", composed by Jorge Ben (who've changed his name to Benjor)...
I don't know which version it is in that ad, but you can find this song by
Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 in "Austin Powers" soundtrack...

Lia.


        "I think we'd make a good team
         And you would keep my fingernails clean
         But that's just a stupid dream that I won't realize
        'Cuz I can't even look in your eyes without shakin'"
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From: [e-mail] (nakatsu)
Subject: re: (exotica) Soccer Samba
Date: 16 Jun 1998 16:59:21 +0900 (JST)


Hi! Kirsten,

You said,
>As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova as she
would like,I ask:
>What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo
commerical?

That song is "mas que nada", well known a repertoire of Sergio Mendes & Bras
il '66. Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical version maybe sung by Tamba Trio.

mutsumi

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: (exotica) Soccer Samba
Date: 16 Jun 1998 04:32:53 -0600



>You said,
>>As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova as she
>would like,I ask:
>>What is that super cool song playing in the Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo
>commerical?
>
>That song is "mas que nada", well known a repertoire of Sergio Mendes & Bras
>il '66. Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical version maybe sung by Tamba Trio.

Actually, there was an article in the UK magazine RM in Music Week this week
about it. I think it has actually been sampled from an original and remixed
by 2 Italian DJs (there names escape me - maybe Claudio Coccoluto or
something like that) and record companies are fighting over who will snatch
up the release rights. As for "Mas Que Nada", there are tons of fabulous
version. I have always been partial to the Sergio Mendes mix,but Jorge Ben's
original mix is also very good - much darker and a little weird.

Someone out there must know the real details on this...

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Calling Jack Diamond!
Date: 16 Jun 1998 05:01:52


Jack--My emails to you have been bounced back for three days running.
Please reply if you are still online.

Apologies to the rest of the list!

Brad Bigelow
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bossa Nova Collections
Date: 16 Jun 1998 08:15:38 -0700 (PDT)


Nathan:

For my taste the very best collection of Bossa Nova on one cd is Bossa
Nova Brazil on Verve. Its a best of with the standards and some
eclectic treasures.  Theres also a Best Of Bossa Nova on Verve that
has a little more Stan Getz on it and is a nice compliment.

Bossa Nova sounds great down here in New Orleans late at night with
the humidity and lows in the 80s.

Enjoying Easy Music in the Big Easy,     Chuck




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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) National Accordion Awareness Month
Date: 16 Jun 1998 12:32:18 -0400


We jumped the gun the other month -- June is "National Accordion Awareness
Month" -- so take an accordion player to lunch today. Or hear Jo Ann Castle's
killer "Bumble Boogie" here:

http://kitty62.eo.net/

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ComEd on Cape Cod
Date: 16 Jun 1998 12:54:56 -0400


For anyone who might be vacationing on Cape Cod this coming weekend -

>Baitfish Productions presents 5th Annual Dune Tunes featuring at the
>Wellfleet Beachcomber
>Friday June 19th  Combustible Edison   9PM to 1 AM
>Come enjoy the cool exotic lounge sounds of the worlds classiest music
>entourage. This long a waited  return performance will feature songs
>from their new up coming album on Sub Pop out this fall. There will be
>two long sets so be prepared  for a long elegant evening on the cliffs
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music to Raise Funds By
Date: 16 Jun 1998 15:29:11 EDT


Hey gang---yours truly has been hired as the official DJ for the "John
O'Connor for Congress in the 8th" campaign in Cambridge and surrounding
shrubbery...His bid for Joe Kennedy's seat is becoming a closely watched race
and music discussed here was offered and accepted as a way to have tunes and
schmoozing take place simultaneously (the instro idea sold 'em!)...Maybe
O'Connor will win and Mr. Lounge will go to Washington...Jimmy


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From: "Clark W. Draper III" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music to Raise Funds By
Date: 16 Jun 1998 16:15:34 -0400


Good. We could use ya!

...Maybe
>O'Connor will win and Mr. Lounge will go to Washington...Jimmy
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From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) where the boys are
Date: 16 Jun 1998 13:32:40 -0700


Can anyone identify the music that is playing during a certain scene in
Where the Boys Are for me?  I'm thinking of the part where they guys and
girls go out to a supper club and see a mermaid perform.  There is no
information in the credits, but I get a feeling that the same composer did
all the music... there is another scene where Yvette Mimieux is painting
her toenails by the pool... also a fab song.

thanks,

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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ultra Chicks
Date: 16 Jun 1998 16:44:54 -0400


I just got back from Le Pick-Up, the store behind
the Ultra Chicks comps.  I told Denis, the owner, about
the flurry of interest on this list, and he was excited.
(He's not on the list, obviously, and will only be on the
internet in the near future.)

Anyway, he's very happy to take mail orders:  $10US or
$15 Canadian for each volume, plus postage (which I
guess you figure out yourself.)   The
address is

Le Pick-Up
4383 St. Denis
Montreal, Quebec H2J 2L2
Canada

Phone:  [phone]

Will


Will Straw
Graduate Program in Communications, McGill University
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Austin Powers Soundtrack
Date: 16 Jun 1998 17:29:19 EDT


i watched the Austin Powers movie last night and was a little dissapointed.
the tape had an ad for the soundtrack.  any good?

the ending dance tune from "Casino Royale" james bond spoof (by tjb i think)
was much better.

robert


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Las Vegas Entertainers
Date: 17 Jun 1998 00:23:39 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-15 09:30:26 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Regardless, I am thinking ahead and wondering...just what recorded artists
 should be featured in such a program: they would have to be both "exotic"
 and well-known performers on the "strip."   >>

Hey Byron both Esquivel and Martin Denny performed several times in Las Vegas
hows that for some instant material!

Ashley


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From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) J. Gleason Question
Date: 17 Jun 1998 02:31:47 +0000



an iffy one, for gleason scholars greater than myelf ...

anyone here know if he ever "performed" live with
his orchestra ?   i.e.; the gleason orchestra live at... (?)

paul moshay
mighty recording corp., p.o. bx. 1833
los angeles, calif. 90078
[phone], [phone] fx
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) yet another J. Gleason Question
Date: 17 Jun 1998 08:43:47 -0500 (CDT)


while we're on the subject...

did Gleason ever record a version of the song "My One and Only Love" and if
so, on which album can it be found?

<cue Final Jeopady Theme>




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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 6/9/98
Date: 17 Jun 1998 11:50:02 EDT


"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FMc Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am -----Billy Taylor
Orchestra-David Frost Theme-----
Mark Wirtz orchestra-You Didn't Have To Be So Nice-CD A-GoGo
Percy Faith-Are U There Wth Another Grl?-LP Themes In Crowd
Francis Lai-Zoom-LP OST Live For Life
Peter Thomas-Curse Of The Hidden Vault-CD Futurmuzik
Peter Thomas-Space Patrol-CD Rampartouille
Karl Swoboda-Fly Me To The Moon-LP Pop Goes The Zither
James Brown-Tighten Up-CD James Brown Instmentals 61-69
Hugo Montenegro-Moog Power-LP This Is Hugo Montenegro
Dick Hyman-Give It Up Or Turn It Loose-CD Electric Eclectics
-Buddy Morrow-San Francisco Blues-LP Double Impact
-Henry Mancini-Experiment In Terror Twist-CD OST Exp.Terror
-Alan Parker-The Hawk-CD Bite Hard (DeWolfe Studio Library)
-Quincy Jones-Main Theme-LP OST The Deadly Affair
-Steve Allen/Oliver Nelson-Torino-LP Soulful Brass
-Mariachi Brass-Dancing In The Street-LP Double Shot
-Bert Kaempfert-Wiedershoen-LP Bye Bye Blues
Roy Budd OPrchestra-Car Chase-CD Loungecore (UK)
Billy Vaughn-Soulful Strut-LP Windmills of Your Mind
John Evans Band-Mambo Italiano-LP Exotic Perc./Brillnt. Brass
Rosemary Clooney-Mambo Italiano-CD OST The Big Night
Barry Manilow-En El Copa-12" Disc Spanish Language Version
Englebert Humperdinck-Quando Quando Quando-CD Swing Chees
Les Baxter-Congo Train-CD The Big Double on Capitol
Lalo Schifrin-Lalo's Bossa Nova-CD Mission Impossible & More
-Duke Ellington-Main Theme-LP OST Anatomy of A Murder
-I Gres-Shadow-CD I Gres
-Angiulo Morelli-One Fine Morning-CD Easy Tempo Vol. 1
Roy Ayers-Escape-LP OST Coffey (re-released)
Isaac Hayes-Main Title from Truck Turner-CD Harlem Shuffle
Henry Mancini-Streets of San Fran. LP Themes for Cop Shows
Si Zentner-Fugitive Theme-CD TV Themes, Ultralounge
Barry Gray Orchestra-Stingray!-CD Barry Gray Orchestra (UK)
JB's-40th Anniversary JB Megamix-12" Disc
-----Lalo Schifrin-Jim On The Move-----


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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sinatra Question
Date: 17 Jun 1998 09:46:05 +0000


In the film " The Quiller Memorandum, "   George Segal stumbles into his hotel

after being worked over by the the postwar nazi-underground. There is a radio
on in the
background upon which one can hear Frank Sinatra singing and then an announcer
saying
something to the affect of "That was Frank Sinatra with his latest hit,
'Wednesday's Child.'"
The song is featured throughout the film, yet my father has searched for that
song or
references to that song to no avail.

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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WELK: Welk: L.W. gravesite
Date: 17 Jun 1998 13:09:24 Pacific Daylight Time




--------
>From: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: WELK: Welk: L.W. gravesite
>Date: June 16, 1998
>
>Gary mentioned in one of his posts that he came across a site which
>showed Lawrence Welk's grave and its location.  I found that site, too,
>when I was surfing over the weekend.  It's at www.findagrave.com   and
>yes, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of gravesites you can check out
>for just about any famous deceased person you can think of from
>historical figures and entertainers to politicians and authors.  It's a
>fascinating site.  It shows the grave and the location, sometimes it
>gives a map of the area and city, and it tells you if the person has
>been cremated and where his or her ashes were scattered.
>
>Check it out!  L.W.'s gravesite is beautiful.
>
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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Anacani
Date: 17 Jun 1998 13:12:04 Pacific Daylight Time



FOR ANY OF YOU THAT ARE INTERESTED IN ANACANI FROM THE LAWRENCE WELK
SHOW, HERE IS A LETTER WITH AN ANACANI WEB SITE.

Darren--------
>From: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: WELK: international (fwd)
>Date: June 17, 1998
>
>We have another international member.  See below...
>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:39:10 +0800
>From: Vernon <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: international
>
>Gary Bacchetti
>Lawrence Welk list moderator
>
>Dear Gary,
>
>Maybe you already knew this but you have another "International" since Feb.  I am in Pardo, Cebu City,
Philippines and have the Anacani website at  http://206.79.242.119/anacani.htm   I've been watching the
show since it first went on National T.V.   But have moved from Oregon to the Philippines.
>
>Vernon Pomeroy
>
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Shaft in Africa" on BBC TV
Date: 17 Jun 1998 14:34:56 +0200


thursday 25 june at 01.10 (that's "wednesday" night) on BBC 1: "Shaft in
Africa"




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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tony Lovello
Date: 17 Jun 1998 16:01:48 -0400


Working on raising my "Accordion Awareness," I found this site from Tony
Lovello, "former member of The Three Suns" (I must admit my Sun's knowledge
isn't deep enough to know if he is a 'classic' or later memeber). He has a
batch of RealAudio files on tap ("Malaguena" is a real epic) and a lot of
instructional material for sale.

http://www.accordionmusic.com/

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra Question
Date: 17 Jun 1998 21:25:29 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-17 12:45:00 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 In the film " The Quiller Memorandum, "   George Segal stumbles into his
hotel

 after being worked over by the the postwar nazi-underground. There is a radio
 on in the
 background upon which one can hear Frank Sinatra singing and then an
announcer
 saying
 something to the affect of "That was Frank Sinatra with his latest hit,
 'Wednesday's Child.'"
 The song is featured throughout the film, yet my father has searched for that
 song or
 references to that song to no avail.

 Anybody know this one? >>


I have never seen the movie, however, knowing that it was released in 1966 -
Frank Sinatra's Reprise period - I can tell you with no doubt in my mind
whatsoever (and a quick look at the alaph track listing in the Reprise
luggage-case box which contains his entire Reprise output!) that Sinatra never
released either a single or an album track with the title "Wednesday Child."

Ashley


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From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra Question
Date: 17 Jun 1998 23:12:33 -0700



>>In a message dated 98-06-17 12:45:00 EDT, [e-mail] writes:
>
>> something to the affect of "That was Frank Sinatra with his latest hit,
>> 'Wednesday's Child.'"

>I have never seen the movie, however, knowing that it was released in 1966 -
>Frank Sinatra's Reprise period - I can tell you with no doubt in my mind
>whatsoever (and a quick look at the alaph track listing in the Reprise
>luggage-case box which contains his entire Reprise output!) that Sinatra
never
>released either a single or an album track with the title "Wednesday Child."

1966 - The Monkees - Saturday's Child
Perhaps the inspiration for the ficticious song?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Dave


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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra Question
Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:53:08 +0100


>
>
>  Anybody know this one? >>
>
> I have never seen the movie, however, knowing that it was released in 1966 -
> Frank Sinatra's Reprise period - I can tell you with no doubt in my mind
> whatsoever (and a quick look at the alaph track listing in the Reprise
> luggage-case box which contains his entire Reprise output!) that Sinatra never
> released either a single or an album track with the title "Wednesday Child."
>
> Ashley

Ho HO! Great reasoning,  But the movie was set in Germany immediately after WWII,
1946, 47 or so,
making a reference the "Reprise" (pronounced rePREEZ, or rePRIZE?) box ultimately
misleading. Dig
into the Columbia box. (please.)

This got me to thinking about the announcer who spoke perfect English - In
GERMANY!!  But then
I recalled, and confirmed with my father, that the announcer was with Armed
Forces Radio.




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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The medium helps make it well done!
Date: 18 Jun 1998 07:40:49 -0400


While looking through an actual used record store, not a thrift store, I
found something I had a tape of and was my introduction to Exotica back in
the early '80's, via my Uncle, who said, "I'm gonna give this boy a culture
shock one way or another!".  He has a 78 set of it.

It's Voice of the Xtabay by('bay?) Yma Sumac on 10" vinyl!  It's a tad
scratched on one side, but it is in good condition otherwise.

Easily obtainable on CD now, but nice to have!  For those who haven't gotten
it, if for nothing else, the sheer joy of spelling her name backwards, do it
now!

I'm waiting...

Well, then wait at the door when the store opens!

No you don't need a jacket, it's nice out...

The Legendary Virgin Son,
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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Wednesday's Child"/Bossa Nova
Date: 18 Jun 1998 04:30:38


"Wednesday's Child" was composed by John Barry and is available on the
soundtrack to "The Quiller Memorandum" and as an instrumental on "The Film
Music of John Barry," Columbia CD CK 444376.

Also, as an avid bossa nova fan, I'd like to put in my vote for Zoot Sim's
"Recado Bossa Nova," a Fresh Sounds CD reissue of two 1962 Colpix LPs, "The
New Beat of Bossa Nova" vols 1 & 2, for best single bossa nova CD purchase.
 Arrangements by Al Cohn and Manny Albam, choice assortment of NY jazz
session men, and the peerless Zoot Sims, a self-effacing veteran session
man and occasional star with a beautiful tone.  And the great Jim Hall on
guitar.  The title cut is a gem, and there is not a cut that's less than
gorgeous.

The oddest bossa nova LP I've ever heard is Barney Kessel's "Bossa Nova,"
Reprise R9-6049, which appears to have been released along with Shorty
Roger's "Bossa Nova" LP on Reprise, since they have the same cover aside
from different color schemes.  Kessel's LP contains not a single note that
I can hear that could be describe as bossa nova.  Instead, it features
Kessel, who was normally a very stylish and subtle jazz guitarist, doing a
Duane Eddy imitation in front of excellent big band arrangements by Bob
Florence and Chuck Sagle.  It's great stuff, but "Bossa Nova"?  I find it
hard to believe it's even Barney Kessel.

Brad
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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Not-so-Boss a Nova
Date: 18 Jun 1998 08:06:14 -0400


To continue with Brad's comments, the strangest Bossa Nova song I have heard
is from an album called "The Going Thing", a trade album for Ford in 1968
for the coming model year.  The whole album is a horror of sub Smothers
Brothers-style joking and MOR music that may have ruined my chances at
fatherhood, however, there is a cut introduced by one of the gang that is
unbelievable.  To paraphrase:

"Folk music is big nowadays and many young people are getting together and
having Hootenannies [if that is what the young kids called it then - Ed.].
What we decided to do is combine a Hootenanny with the great Bossa Nova.  We
call the result a Bossananny."

Off we go into a syncopated, herky-jerky medley of familiar songs, only one
of which I can remember the words to:
"Bossa Nova, Bossa Nova, Bossa Nova, Clementine...", which predictably
mentions size nine huaraches.

Oy vey.
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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Continuous speed
Date: 18 Jun 1998 08:59:45 -0400


>I've seen one record player that had a single horizontal lever which
>controlled the speed from 16 to 78+ rpm and anywhere inbetween!
>Unfortunately it was not for sale and I didn't get a chance to use
>it, but it looked like it would be a lot of fun to mess around with.
>I have to say, though, it was also obviously a rather shoddy piece
>of equipment, and I imagine the control would be very innacurate...
>
>- -Brian

You're now making me nostalgic for my beloved Goldring Lenco turntable,
which is in London somewhere, hopefully intact.  In contrast with the
model described above, it has quite an effective design - the speed is
controlled by a lever which can be set at any speed from 33 to 80 ish,
but with little feet which it sits on at 33, 45 and 78.

regds
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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's
Date: 18 Jun 1998 15:50:00 +0000


Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I just got Walter Wanderley's _Talkin' Verve_ (on Verve, duh) and it
>features a version of "Music to Watch Girls By".

Johan wrote:
 >it's also on the (German, thus more expensive) double compilation
>on Motor, "the fantastic Walter Wanderley", and fantastic it is!!!

I have the Wanderley's Scamp cd comp. "Samba Swings! Swinging Sounds
For Todays' Jet Set" (worth buying for title alone! And great cover
art, too), and love the Walter organ treatment a damn lot.
Love it so much that i was considerin' buying also the 2cd comp on
german Motor Music, though is pricey.
Now I learn that there is also the Talkin' Verve out now (still
haven't seen in shops around here).

Does anybody knows if songs from the Scamp cd ALL duplicates on the
Motor Music release? And What's on the Talkin' Verve, tracks already
on both Scamp and Motor, or different ones?

Scamp cd features:
1. Summer Samba
2. It's A Lovely Day Today (w. A. Gilberto)
3. Cheganca (The Great Arrival)
4. Call Me (w. A. Gilberto)
5. Taste Of  Sadness
6. Here's That Rainy Day (w. A. Gilberto)
7. O Menino Decse O Morro
8. The Girl From Ipanema
9. A Certain Sadness
10. Agua De Beber
11. Cry Out Your Sadness
12. Nega Do Cabelo Duro (w. A. Gilberto)
13. Bossa No Praia (Beach Samba)
14. O Ganso
15. So Nice (Sumer Samba; w. A. Gilberto)

Thank you
Gionni


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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ultra chicks - lolita ya ya
Date: 18 Jun 1998 15:50:00 +0000


[e-mail] (Tosh) wrote:
>I just purchased "Ultra Chicks, Lolita Ya-Ya Vol. 2," and was
>wondering if volume 1 is still around.  There is no information on
>the label or sleeve about the recordings.  I presume it is a
>bootleg.  Can anyone give me the details about vol. 1, and if it is
>still around for purchasing?  Thanks.

Sorry I don't know anything about vol. 2, but definetely would like
to know something about vol. 1, which sounds great. Could you please
post tracklisting?
Thanks
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Subject: (exotica) Yma = Amy ???
Date: 18 Jun 1998 10:17:16 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-18 07:41:49 EDT, you write:

<< For those who haven't gotten
 it, if for nothing else, the sheer joy of spelling her name backwards, do it
 now! >>

I have heard this Yma Sumac = Amy Camus for years.  Is there any truth to
this?
(BTW -- according to Mulder "The Truth is Out There" -- sorry, I could not
resist)

Trebor Skoorb


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Subject: RE: (exotica) Yma = Amy ???
Date: 18 Jun 1998 10:58:43 -0400


> I have heard this Yma Sumac = Amy Camus for years.  Is there any truth to
> this?
> (BTW -- according to Mulder "The Truth is Out There" -- sorry, I could not
> resist)
>Trebor Skoorb

Raed Rm. Skoorb:

:egap siht no si siht tuoba noitamrofnI  .oN  Turn me on, dead man :^)

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Yma = Amy ???
Date: 18 Jun 1998 11:00:33 -0400


http://www.accesscom.com/~pc/sumac/

spoo!



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From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) Obituary: William J. Schwann
Date: 18 Jun 1998 16:09:12 GMT


    BURLINGTON, Mass. (AP) -- William J. Schwann, who began the
Schwann Record Catalog of music listings, died June 7. He was 85.
    Schwann's first catalog, which he published in 1949, was 26
typewritten pages listing 674 long-playing records of works by 98
composers on 11 labels.
    The initial run of 6,000 sold out within one week at 10 cents
a catalog.
    Schwann, who opened The Record Store in Cambridge in 1939,
said he came up with the idea for the catalog when he got tired of
having to look up recordings in different company lists.
    The catalog grew to include listings of eight-track tapes,
cassettes and CDs as well as LPs.
    The listings have included classical, jazz and popular music,
and comedy, children's and self-help recordings. Some months, it
listed as many as 45,000 recordings.
    Schwann sold the catalog, now published twice year, to ABC in
1976, but continued to run the operation for several years.
    Schwann was on the board of directors of the Boston Ballet,
the Longy School of Music and the Marlboro Music Festival.
    He was a subscriber to the Boston Symphony, and was friendly
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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What I found for fifty cents and a question.
Date: 18 Jun 1998 08:32:44 PDT


This is the haul of June, thus far.

The 1st weekend of this month I went to an estate sale in Arlington: a
French globe trotter who lived most of his life in Martinique. I picked
up some tiki statues & Maori carvings + a copy of Gainsbourg & Birkin's
Je T'aime... Beautiful Love lp. Also, Arlington HS (which can count the
defunct Jim Morrison among its past inmates)hosts a first wknd of the
month flea market in a 3-level parking garage. For less than a fistful
of dollars:

Burt Bacharach: Casino Royale Soundtrack (sealed): call me philistine,
but the most pleasure I've gotten of this thing was the highly
satisfactory haggling over the price of it.
Ken Nordine for all of 20 seconds: Sounds in Space: Ok as stereophonic
technique demos go. Cool cover art.
Arthur Lyman: Taboo
Ralph Font and His Orchestra: Tabu: mostly tepid Cha-Cha music, but the
cover art redeems the content and gives a transom window into the
homebaked 1950's US white middle class psyche. In the foreground, the
lust transfigured mug of a redheaded June Cleaver, behind her, a virile
half naked black man pounding out voodoo rhythms on a conga, gazing
wide-eyed at her.
Byron Parker and His Percussion Ensemble: This one is quite good, as
percussion records go. A stand out is the stand by, Caravan - hammered
out on a variety of standard and exotic percussive intruments, with a
novel use of electric guitars (novel to me, as I haven't the musical
vocabulary to describe the technique. This is on the Westminster label -
a label that I would love to have a bit more knowledge of: their
packaging is fairly high quality (thick covers, thick vinyl), great
sound and great cover art (Font's Tabu as well as some of the F&T
prepared piano lps are on Westminster).

Then off to the Salvation Army:

Soundtracks to 77 Sunset Strip and Hawaii Five-O (Have only played these
2 through once - but like what I heard. 77SSS has a cha-cha version of
the title track, starts out with a 50's rock beat; Caper at the Coffee
house reminds me of a more beatnckish Badalamenti score - finger
snapping, vibes, etc.)

Billy Vaughn: The Shifting, Whispering Sands (featuring the voice of Ken
Nordine). Confectionary dreck, aside from the Nordine narratives. These
are egregiously sentimental, and quite fun - lines like "the brave
settlers who fought the crafty Navajo." Very sappy stuff.

Santo and Johnny: The Brilliant Guitars of: 60's pop stuff. Enjoyable,
but Very EZ. I prefer the S&J of Sleep Walk and Slave Girl.

Speaking of EZ all hail the New Muzak! No one can say that the good Herr
Doktor William Wokoun didn't have a sense of humor. This 1969 release
from "The New Muzak Stereo" is titled "Reveille." The cover reminds of a
Surf Punks lp (though I prefer the Muzak) - garish neon pink with black
splatter patterns. Lots and lots of freaky psycho-babble on the back
cover. The music? I can't recall, but I did get my house cleaned up and
I felt really good about it.

Anthony Newley: Can Heironymous Merkin Forget Mercy Humpe and Find True
Happiness. A 60's something soundtrack (I'm not familiar with this
production... at all) Not as exciting as title, Playboy accolades and
cover art suggest - although I did like the peppy "Chalk and Cheese"
sung by Joan Collins.

And anyone who thinks that Senor Cugat was a bore should seek out Viva
Cugat on Mercury - tons of wild percussion, including Quija (or, in
American, donkey's jawbone).

? Wurman: The Moog Strikes Bach... This is sort of midway between W.
Carlos and Everything You Always Wanted to Hear On the Moog... : The
playing seems more serious than the latter, but involves the alien sound
of the moog.

Dick Hyman: Moog (Does anyone know if Command put out more than 4 moog
lps - the two by Enoch Light and the two by Hyman?).


Happy Hunting,

Ben Waugh

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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Obituary: William J. Schwann
Date: 18 Jun 1998 13:11:02 -0400


This can then be termed his Schawann song.

Sorry.

Brian Phillips



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From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) a wee plug -- music related
Date: 18 Jun 1998 10:23:06 -0700


hi list,

well, today is the first day in what i hope to be a long and fruitful
journey.  I've started a weekly (updated every thursday) music column on
The San Francisco  Chronicle's website, dedicated to the less, erm,
explored music happenings.

http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart

Although it is pretty bay area specific, I think there might be enough to
interest everyone.  As for exotica content, It will only make it's way in
if i know of an event, show, etc that's happening.  So, anyone out there
who lives in the Bay Area, please e-mail suggestions, and I will post them.

Still, the more clicks the better, so please pass this URL on to anyone who
might be interested.  Many, many thanks!

jasmine

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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soccer Samba
Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:01:34 +0000


It has been posted:
>As someone who does not know as much about samba and bossa nova
>I ask: What is that super cool song playing in the Nike
>aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical?

>That song is "mas que nada", well known a repertoire of Sergio
>Mendes & Brasil '66. Nike aiport/soccer/Ronaldo commerical version
>maybe sung by Tamba Trio.

>Actually, there was an article in the UK magazine RM in Music Week
>this week about it. I think it has actually been sampled from an
>original and remixed by 2 Italian DJs (there names escape me - maybe
>Claudio Coccoluto or something like that) and record companies are
>fighting over who will snatch up the release rights. As for "Mas Que
>Nada", there are tons of fabulous version. I have always been
>partial to the Sergio Mendes mix,but Jorge Ben's original mix is
>also very good - much darker and a little weird.
>Someone out there must know the real details on this...

Havent' heard the Coccoluto (name is right, he's top italian d.j.,
though on the commercial side, doesn't play any easy/exotica) remix.
The music on the commercial is the Tamba Trio version.
Cashing in from the commercial, I have seen in the shops a 2 cd comp.
"Best Of Tamba Trio", with sticker that says "as heard on the airport
commercial".
Very same version can be heard on the Nova Bossa comp. which has
recently discussed in the list.
Gionni


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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Italian Girly Pop
Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:01:34 +0000


Jimmy Bee wrote:
>I have come into the possession of an Italian Girly-Pop 6T's
>cassette with some real gems done in the girl group tradition of the
>early 6T's american groups.....e-mail me privately if this floats
>your boat......Jimmy

Hey, if this stuff appeals you I have plenty. Is there anyone
interested in swapping tapes? I can compile italian stuff from the
fifties + sixties. Just specify genre/style/whatever you'd like to
know. Covers of USA/UK songs sung in italian? Soul/Girl Group Sound?
Twist/R'n'R? Beat? Else?

Jimmy, can you please post me tracklisting of that tape? Maybe I can
tell something about the artists involved.

Take It Molto Easy
Gionni


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Subject: Re: (exotica) What I found for fifty cents and a question.
Date: 18 Jun 1998 22:43:38 EDT


<< Dick Hyman: Moog (Does anyone know if Command put out more than 4 moog
 lps - the two by Enoch Light and the two by Hyman?). >>

yes, there are more.

Richard Hayman / Walter Sear - Electronic Evolutions (2 LP collection of
tracks from the following three records):

Richard Hayman - Genuine Electric Latin Love Machine
Richard Hayman - Cinemagic Sounds
Walter Sear - The Copper Plated Intergrated Circuit

Dick Hyman - The Synthesizer (best of Electric Eclectics and Age of
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Subject: (exotica) misanthropy 961 playlist
Date: 18 Jun 1998 23:00:49 -0500


MISANTHROPY 961--p.o.box 23093--detroit, mi 48223 u.s.
e-mail: [e-mail]

CJAM is now online with Real Audio. You can now hear Misanthropy 961
every Sunday night from Midnight -2am e.s.t. on your computer. Stay up
late/get up early. Listen to us at: http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/live.htm

Misanthropy  is pleased to present Vinyl Communications artists Lesser
and Kid-606 at The Gold Dollar on Tues. June 30th. For info: (313)
833-6873 or e-mail us at: [e-mail]

RADIO PLAYLIST- edited for exotica content

ARTIST--TITLE--CD/CASS/LP--LABEL

MAY 4, 1998

LES BAXTER--jungle flower--the exotic moods--CAPITOL
LES BAXTER--temptation--the exotic moods--CAPITOL

MAY 11, 1998

TROY HESS--please do not go topless mother--v.a. godless america--CRYPT
CROSBY/HOPE/LAMOUR--moonlight becomes you--on the road--FLY RIGHT
JOE MEEK--dribcots space boat--i hear a new world--RPM
LUC FERRARI--place des appesses--cellule 75-- TZADIK
DAVID SLUSSER--sala--delight at the end--TZADIK
EYVIND KANG--universal--7 nades--TZADIK
HI-FI GUYS--r&r killed my mother--v.a. godless america--CRYPT
LES BAXTER--busy port--the exotic moods--CAPITOL
SAM TAYLOR--somewhere in the night--somewhere in the night--DECCA

MAY 24, 1998- show exchange with #Skrockin Yer Butow# on WHFR, Dearborn,
MI. Contact Mike D. at: ([e-mail])

MARTIN DENNY--exotica--exotica--RHINO
BOB/BING/DOROTHY--road to morocco--on the road--FLYRIGHT
FRANK SINATRA--witchcraft--collectors series--CAPITOL
DOROTHY OLSEN--hush a bye--lullabies for sleepyheads--RCA
PEOPLE LIKE US--yodel bomber--hate people like you--STAALPLAAT
PIERO UMILIANI--fotomodelle--v.a. easy tempo 2--EASY TEMPO
BRUNO NICOLAI--$100,000 for ringo--v.a. spaghetti westerns 2--DRG

JUNE 1, 1998- with special guest Ethan Port formerly of Savage Republic,
now of F-Space

SZEKI KURVA--bond averts w w 3--music for joyriders--IRIS LIGHT
SZEKI KURVA--running on empty--music for joyriders--IRIS LIGHT

RADIO MARABU- JUNE 1998

FRANK SINATRA--witchcraft--capitol collectors--CAPITOL
ROBERTO ROSSANI--always--soft & warm--SOMERSET
LOS MAYAS--loveland--love moods--FOUR CORNERS
L. ELGGREN/C.M. VON HAUSSWOLFF--kingdoms of elgaland-vargaland--ASH
LUC FERRARI--cellule 75--cellule 75--TZADIK
OSKAR SALA--fantasie-suite in drei satzen--my facinating instrument--FAX
PIERRE HENRY--jardins possibles--pierres reflechies--MANTRA
FRANK SINATRA--young at heart--capitol collectors--CAPITOL

these are great times to be a misanthropist.

Misanthropy 961 is broadcast on Sunday nights from mid-2am on CJAM 91.5
fm Windsor, Ontario  Canada. CJAM can be heard throughout the Windsor/
Detroit Michigan area.  Misanthropy 961 features from easy listening to
moments of mayhem. Surrealism in spectra-sonic sound.

We would like to thank all who have sent us promos. It is greatly
appreciated.

Misanthropy 961 is also broadcasted monthly on Radio Marabu. Radio
Marabu is based in Belm Germany and broadcast at various times on 13
different stations throughout Europe. It is also on shortwave throughout
Europe. Write to Radio Marabu for more info and tell them Misanthropy
sent you. Radio Marabu p.o.box 1166,  49187, Belm  Germany .  e-mail:
[e-mail]
web site: http://www.mediaDD.de/radiomarabu/

David Warmbier & Greg Hallock


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Subject: Re: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's
Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:28:20 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-18 09:55:14 EDT, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Now I learn that there is also the Talkin' Verve out now (still
 haven't seen in shops around here).

By all means run from the "Talkin'  Verve" release - it is absolute CA-CA.
There is no reasoning beyond the selections, it is neither a hits or a best of
the album tracks selection, even the version of Wanderley's biggest hit
"Summer Samba" is the poor remake he did when he jumped from Verve to
Phillips. I can only guess that the tracks were selected by throwing darts at
the track listings on the back covers of the albums


 Does anybody knows if songs from the Scamp cd ALL duplicates on the
 Motor Music release? And What's on the Talkin' Verve, tracks already
 on both Scamp and Motor, or different ones? >>

Even if you already own the Scamp release I highly urge you to track down the
Motor compilation. While the Scamp CD chooses selections from arguably his
finest three albums - the real classic Verve tracks - the Motor Muisc CD has
very little overlap as it covers his pre-Verve Brazilian recordings (some of
these tracks are brilliant!) and even his better post-Verve material as well.

As for the Talkin' Verve CD there is also very little overlap between the
Scamp and the Motor release as the guy who put it together seemed to avoid
choosing the best Wanderley tracks in favor of the less than stellar
stuff...oh by the way, Wandereley is probably turning in his grave, as the
liner notes refer to Wanderley's music as "pure cheese" (the CD cover even
features a slab of individually-wrapped American cheese on a plate and there
are numerous referances to cheeses in the liner notes' in order to describe
Wanderley's music).

..in short, unlike all the previous "Talkin' Verve" series of CD's which are
uniformly excellent, the Wanderley is a rip-off hack-job trying to cash in on
the "cheesey-lounge" sound which was old a year ago.  The Wanderley "Talkin'
Verve" CD stinks like limberger that's been left out on a hot Oklahamo 4th of
July.

Ashley

P.S. It looks like some people at Polygram have got the message as they will
be re-issuing Wanderely's excellent Verve debut album "Rain Forest" in a
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Subject: Re: (exotica) The rich rich record industry
Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:45:28 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-13 19:06:33 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<<  many of these obscure albums we discuss and cherish here would not exsist
 were  it not for columbia, capitol, and the rest selling tonnage quanties of
the
 'west  side story' soundtrack or 'oklahoma'.  the same kind of logic and biz
 realties  apply now.  there would be little development in interesting, off-
center
 releases  and reissues if the labels do not profit adequately on the few
bigger
 selling  releases they are lucky to get each year.  thats the straight dope.
  >>
Okay, this has puzzled me for sometime. But how or why does the big labels
choose to make lounge CDs if we are such a small market share?  HOw are they
coming out ahead?

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From: "Dick Diablo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Our Man Flint confusion
Date: 19 Jun 1998 01:14:25 -0400


I am currently enjoying the recent In Like Flint/Our Man Flint release from
Varese/Fox Classics (and it's about time, now maybe someone can reissue the
Matt Helm soundtracks as well). However, I am a bit confused about the track
selection on the CD, as the tracks for the Our Man Flint portion of the disc
are NOT QUITE THE SAME as on my original vinyl copy of the Our Man Flint
soundtrack. I believe the arrangements are slightly different on some
tracks, and there are a few cuts that are missing altogether (no "Galaxy A
Go-Go", my fave, dammit!), but there are also some extra tracks which are
quite nice. I don't know if the In Like Flint portion of the disc has been
similarly rearranged from the original vinyl release, as I've never heard it
before (that baby is hard to find). Does anyone know what the deal is behind
the track selection on this release, and why some cuts have been left off?
Thanks,

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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flint and Ventures
Date: 19 Jun 1998 09:32:47 -0400


No doubt the scoundrels who wrecked the CD re-release of The Ventures
A-Go-Go were involved in this little piece of sonic high treason.  Don't the
engineers listen to the originals before they go and try to remaster
everything 90s style?  My Ventures CD doesn't have the same "Visual Sound"
feel as my scratched out old LP.

Maybe one of you recording company types can answer this one...My limited
experience in Audio Engineering reminds me that there is always a sheet
stuffed in the box with the tapes that indicates the settings on the board
and any effects put on the tracks.  Since there were little electronic
effects in 1966, shouldn't it have been easy enough to replicate the other
settings?  Especially if the engineer listened to the original first?  Or is
it that these guys don't have that kind of time/money to do that for each
album?

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman

>  I believe the arrangements are slightly different on some
> tracks,
>
> Dick Diablo
>
>


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Exotica Sales by the Rich Rich Record Industry
Date: 19 Jun 1998 08:52:05 -0700 (PDT)


Micheleflp:

 I too am puzzled by the incredibly large number of exotic cd releases.
 Are there that many of us purchasing these cds?
 I know Air is selling well but how about Another Crazy Coctail Party,
which I see prominently displayed at Virgin?  Does this cd or the easy
project cds really sell that well?

 I'm not complaining because its a great thing to have this much new
product out there.  Having purchased vinyl and cds for many years I am
convinced that there is more product for sale now, in ALL genres, then
ever before.  Bear family records continue to astound me,  they  even
released a Bonanza TV show Box Set!

 I am afraid that the record companies will quit releasing exotica
because its not selling.  But I don't understand why the record
companies are releasing so much obsure records in other genres as
well.

 Easy Listening in the Big Easy,          Chuck

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flint and Ventures
Date: 19 Jun 1998 11:36:48 -0400


At 9:32 AM -0400 6/19/98, Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD wrote:

>Maybe one of you recording company types can answer this one...My limited
>experience in Audio Engineering reminds me that there is always a sheet
>stuffed in the box with the tapes that indicates the settings on the board
>and any effects put on the tracks.  Since there were little electronic
>effects in 1966, shouldn't it have been easy enough to replicate the other
>settings?  Especially if the engineer listened to the original first?  Or is
>it that these guys don't have that kind of time/money to do that for each
>album?

You're right about those sheets, although there's always the possibility
that they were lost in this case. But my guess is that the engineer didn't
listen to the original, and they don't that kind of time/money to do that,
and the engineer tries to give it a modern sound.

Just another reason why CD's are not always your best bet.

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The rich rich record industry
Date: 19 Jun 1998 11:16:35 -0400


At 12:45 AM -0400 6/19/98, <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Okay, this has puzzled me for sometime. But how or why does the big labels
>choose to make lounge CDs if we are such a small market share?  HOw are they
>coming out ahead?

They own the recordings, so they don't have to pay anything [except
royalties] in order to put these out. In Capitol's case, they put their
full promotional might behind the UltraLounge series, and as a result those
discs sold extremely well.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: French Pop!
Date: 19 Jun 1998 14:51:21 +0200


>From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
>
>BTW, does anyone know how does this set compares to what's on the
>Get Easy! - France compilation?

    this is what o wtote a while back on volume 3 & 4:

At Tue, 6 Jan 1998, BasicHip <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Would someone who is familiar with the recordings below please offer a
>short "review"? (the included descriptions were supplied by the dealer)

>1) Various -- Get Easy Vol. 3 -- The French Pops Collection Motor
>(Germany), Late 60's/1997
>Simply fantastic! An amazingly insane assortment of groovy groovy French
>vocal pop from the 60's, with tracks that will make your ears pop out when
>you hear them. Soaring vocals, groovy guitars, and arrangements that have
>quirky little edges that make Serge Gainsbourg sound soft. Stellar stuff
>from people like France Gall, Nicoletta, Brigitte Bardot, Eddie Barclay,
>Les Parisiennes, Jacques Dutronc, Andre Brasseur, Daniel Gerard, and sooo
>many others. Great package, great notes, and the kind of stuff that we
>always dream about, but have never been able to find. Amazing stuff all
>the way through, and a real treat for your groovy groovy ears!

    this proves that they didn't listen to the cd really careful ;-)
    18 out of the 22 tracks are vocal, the other 4 are instrumental.
    they're not all really insane either, just some good and
interesting french 60's pop, and a lot of mediocre stuff. i liked it better
though than i had expected from just seeing the track list. if you like BB,
France Gall and Katerine, then you'll like this cd too, i guess, but a lot
depends upon where you live. i guess that people from outside europe, even
outside france and other french speeking countries, will like it better,
because this french pop has something "exotic" for them.
    the package is not great at all, it looks ugly and cheap to me,
    others might call it "retro"...
    liner notes are in german. there's 1 track you might already have,
by     Francis Lai called "marseileise generique", on BB's "disque
d'or"lp/cd     AND one of the "inflight entertainment" comps i _think_

    my rate: +++ = good

    if you want to hear some *really* groovy, trippy, insane French
    (instromental) pop, try to find the "Orchestral Party (act 1...)"
    comp cd (i think Vik has a page on it)



    I liked "Get easy 4: the German Pops collection" (Motor, germany) a
lot better than the "French collection" I talked about a while back. A lot
depends on geographics; if you think everything French is
cool/quirky/exotic, than you'll love the French one. If you're not sure,
then go for the German.

That one only has 2 crap tracks, by Katja Ebstein, and Lilian Atterer; both
very plain 60's popular vocals. 8 other are vocal tracks, the remaining 14
are instromentals.

all in all a very soulful and funky compilation, with plenty of that
"European" big band sound. rated 4/5

some highlights:

* Klaus Wunderlich's version of Mancini's "Baby elephant walk", which is
very true to the original Mancini sound and yet very different and
original. * James Last's "Aquarius" with phase shifting all over *
Hildegarde Knef with a slow funk number; if you like low, smokey, female
vocals, then check her out.
* Orchester Horst Jankowski: "Pata pata" has both whistling (in the intro)
and wordless scat "pabapaba" vocals from the swinging Jankowski Singers *
Die Jankowski Singers have a second track, "rocking voices", on which they
sound very much like the Swingle Singers, but with a beat. * also 2 Peter
Thomas tracks not on any other cd.

I like these 2 Jankowski tracks VERY much, that's why I wonder if the Horst
Jankowski cd "Black forest explosion" mentioned in the booklet has that
same sound, with wordless scat vocals... anyone knows?

the included booklet mentions several other Motor cd's that might be
interesting, like:

* The Singers Unlimited: "Masterpieces"
    I've never heard anything from or about them, so any info about

    their sound is very welcome!





    volume 1 (the classic collection) is my favorite, rated 5/5: an
overview of the Easy listening greats: Wanderley, Mancini, Astrud,
Montenegro ("lady in cement"!), Lalo, Peter Thomas, Sandpipers, Ray
Conniff, Denny, Bottcher, Kaepfert, Bacharach, Herb Alpert and others. all
COOL tracks!

    volume 2 (the future collection) has today's lounge acts, like P5
("Twiggy twiggy"!), Towa Tei, JTQ, CombEd, Mike Flowers, Corduroy, Andreas
Dorau, Devo, Swing Out Sister, United Future Organisation, the Independant
Colors... my rate: 4/5



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From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra Question
Date: 19 Jun 1998 12:30:06 -0700


>I can tell you with no doubt in my mind...that Sinatra never
> released either a single or an album track with the title "Wednesday
Child."

Nancy Sinatra released a song called "Friday's Child."  Could these songs
be one and the same?

Jerry


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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Our Man Flint confusion
Date: 19 Jun 1998 18:12:46 -0500


>
>I am currently enjoying the recent In Like Flint/Our Man Flint release from
>Varese/Fox Classics
>... and there are a few cuts that are missing altogether (no "Galaxy A
>Go-Go", my fave, dammit!)


How in the world could any one re-issue this soundtrack without "Galaxy A
Go-Go" ?!!?

The asleep-at-the-wheel compilers of this CD should hide their heads in
shame.


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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Album cover art exhibit and essay
Date: 19 Jun 1998 18:12:42 -0500


Sent:        6/17/98 6:04 PM

I've just contributed the following album covers for and exhibit of =
covers that will be shown at the Portland Public Library for the =
month of July. Along with my late fifties covers will be a collection =
of David Stone Martin covers, eighties political punk covers, Blues =
covers, Various representations of women on covers and late eighties =
early nineties heavy metal covers.

My contributions are the following:

Provocative Percussion
Ray Martin -  Dynamica
Music for Gracious Living: Do-it-yourself
New York Qt - Music for Suburban Living
Nelson Riddle's  Sea of Dreams
Bob Thompson - On the Rocks
Martin Denny - Primitiva
The Surfmen - Exotic Island
Stanley Wilson - Pagan Love
Henri Rene - Music for Bachelors (Mansfield)

Why these covers? Read my article.

The following is the article I wrote for the show. Before your =
criticism rolls in, let it be known that I purposefully wrote this in =
an 'academic' style and although I stand by everything said, some of =
the generalizations are stated some what tounge in cheek.

Enjoy.

Frank

The Vinyl Desire: Late Fifties Record Album Cover Art as Sales Pitch =
to the Middle Income White American Heterosexual Male Consumer.


    Looking back on late fifties advertising there is a tendency to view =
the layout as tacky or kitsch  without really considering that this =
view comes out of our  relation to our own more self conscious =
approach to advertising.  In other words, advertising is presently =
motivated more from a social science approach.When we look back at =
the fifties and their try-whatever-seems-to-work advertising tactic =
we are dumb struck with sheer amazement. However, with all the =
differences between now and then, there is  still a basic advertising =
tenet common to both: How do we make the consumer desire something  =
which they believe they lack? The graphic art of this fifties styled =
sales pitch are most gloriously illustrated by the 33 1/3 rpm LP =
record album covers that came out at that time.
     My research into this topic has uncovered four genres of this album =
cover art as directed to the middle income white American =
heterosexual male. If one =8Creads=B9 the images presented on these =
covers their sales pitch will be seen as proclaiming  at least one of =
the following:
    If you buy this record you will have the music that will:
a) Transport you to some far away place (preferably with a darker =
complexion female companion). (Exotica)
b) Offer you the absolute comfort and complacency of your present =
home life. (Suburban mood music)
c) Offer you the spectacle of reproduced sound as only this =
technologically advanced society can. (Hi-fi/Stereo engineered sound)
d)Transform your wife/girlfriend/palm into the sexually desired =
woman. (The desired woman, sexy lounge)
Certainly there is frequent overlapping of these categories but =
still,  they remain the dominant four and each calls for further =
elucidation.

    Exotica, perhaps the most forgotten of late fifties desires, came =
about from post-war American=B9s desire for the primitive far away =
place. An urge that was spurred on in part from the national mania =
toward Hawaii upon its adoption to statehood and the returning  =
Pacific Theater veterans who had acquired  a taste for the islands. =
Although having Hawaii as part of the US made the exotic that much =
more available, still the ability to get there was not financially =
feasible. Exotica packaged this desire for the stay at home music =
listener by offering jungle drums, tiki torch lit midnight lagoons =
and of course the =8Cbrown skinned gal.=B9 A list of the back cover =
lexicon from exotica albums basically tells all: Savage, untamed, =
forbidden, unexplored, erotic, mystery.... All this was made palpable =
to the late fifties male with themes that were =B3...at once exotic =
and  familiar.=B2 (from the  liner notes to =B3Jun=B9gala=B2) Hence, =
a tune on a log drum was acceptable only if it was some recognizable =
=8Cwestern=B9 melody. The cover art almost always consisted of a =
photograph of some lush jungle scene with an exotic (i.e. slightly =
darker complexion) woman (almost always portrayed by a Caucasian =
model) and to top it off the obligatory =8Cprimitive=B9 typography.

    The happy home life is the flip side of the Exotica/Desired Woman =
sales pitch. With their =B3Father Knows Best=B2 scenes of the =
complacent, deliriously happy Nuclear family we=B9re served up a =
severe view of American home life. The consumer of these albums were =
being told to desire the idealized outdoor barbecue and the =
completely functional paternal family. Consequently, the music on =
these recordings is cheery, upbeat and quite, quite saccharine.

    The engineered sound came along with all the other post-war =
technological developments that were to transform the entire American =
landscape. These hi-fi/stereo effect albums offered the listener a =
sort of aural altered state that only the most up to date =
techno-wizardry could deliver. The characteristic cover art for these =
albums was abstract design. For a recording that favored sound over =
the music (or at the very least blurring the distinction) a graphic =
style that favored form over content was perfectly suited.

    Of course the album covers whose effect can still be felt today are =
the ones that, basically, promised to deliver sex. The scantily =
dressed curvaceous women that populated these numerous albums tapped =
into the fifties heterosexual male libido with promises of sultry =
nights and  helped set the mood for their sexual desire. Obviously =
using the sexually charged image of  the desired woman to sell =
products to the easily aroused male consumer has not left us, the =
difference seems only to be a degree of sumptuousness in the imagery =
and the fifties sensibility of discretion. The covers were absolutely =
meant to be racy, to titillate and to prod the male consumer into =
believing that the music contained therein would provide the perfect =
background to their sexual fantasy. The music from these albums is =
usually lush, throbbing and moist.

    There is a tendency to  disguise  our inability to comprehend our =
recent past with a superior laughter (=B3Aren=B9t those albums so =
ridiculous!=B2) rather than learning more about  how these =
=8Cartifacts=B9  still have a powerful effect on us. This brief =
analysis and these cover art illustrations will provide some insight =
into the golden era of post-war commercial art and hence ourselves.





My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's
Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine!



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From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Sales
Date: 19 Jun 1998 20:37:45 -0800



>I too am puzzled by the incredibly large number of exotic cd releases.
=====================

they many look like alot but you are considering both imports
and domestic releases together.  when a u.s. or european company
is considering releasing a title they do not really consider if a comparable
item is available 'overseas'.

really have to consider all domestics and all euro titles as arenas unto
themselves.

paul m.




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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Sales & Ultra Chicks
Date: 20 Jun 1998 00:14:37 EDT


Marketing decisions: Virgin Megastore in SF has moved the EZ listening section
into a dark corner under the escalator next to the gospel and kids records,
and the bins are filling with Richard Clayderman.  Guess Capitol's Ultra
Lounge money ran out. Borders on the other hand, has moved the lounge/ez
domestic comps into the various artists section. But good ol Medium Rare has
all the EZ/Go Go/Exotica domestic and foreign comps in a big rack right as you
walk in the front door, almost every goddam cool CD that has been mentioned on
this list. (The boots are back in a corner, one wall is ONLY cool soundtracks,
and the other is disco divas and Peggy Lee two-fers, appropriate for the
Castro neighborhood.)

Got Ultra chicks 1 & 2 there, & after a quick listen I thought of the "Growing
Up Too Fast" girl group comp but sung in French without the fancy production
of the GUTF cuts.  Donna Loren backed by the Hondels from one of the beach
movies also came to mind.  For the $10 price Will found, they are ok if you
like to hear young french girls sing, but I like to hear young girls sing in
any language.  I wish i remembered my french and knew what the Ultra chicks
were singing about, tho there is a cover of Goody goody and a knockoff of Gary
Lewis'  "She's Just My Style". "Nouvelle Vague Blues" is a nice jazzy piece.
And Ive got Jane Birkin and Juliette Greco on back order, sacre bleu!

For true lolita ya-ya style pop, I prefer Charlotte Gainsbourg's collection of
her daddy's songs ("Lemon Incest") , but I'll go to my grave madly in love
with Ronnie Ronette. The Ronettes and Cookies stole my heart many years ago
and never gave it back.

JB "Peppermint" Twist


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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Matt Monro
Date: 20 Jun 1998 00:33:41 Pacific Daylight Time


Hello!

I don't know if this helps, but Matt Monro had a record called "Wednesday's Child," and Matt did sound a little
like Sinatra.


Darren!


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) San Francisco Tiki show
Date: 20 Jun 1998 02:01:12 EDT


Friday, July 3 9:30 pm $5.00
Hotel Utah
500 Third Street at Bryant, SF
Join Otto's Surf Party on the first Friday of the month during the summer.

Jumbo Shrimp featuring Klaus and Ray formerly of the Dead Kennedys
and local instrumentalists
Planet Seven who actually use a theremin in a good way!

I'm givin out free leis and forcing the bar to make good Polynesian drinks -
WAY better than Trad'r Sams, the Li Lo Lounge or even the Tonga Room!!!


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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's
Date: 20 Jun 1998 07:57:04 PDT


hmmm.....
just a question....
why dont you buy the original wanderly lps? not only does they feel and
sound better, they are also cheaper than the cd-reissues. i even find
them in sweden for less than $10.

mahna mahna gnus

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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica list members meeting
Date: 20 Jun 1998 08:35:29 PDT


Aloha list!
Fellow listee Moritz R is visiting Stockholm together with his
girlfriend Katja, and today i had the pleasure in showing them around.
We headed for Stockholms biggest fleamarket, but unfortunately it was
closed for holidays. We went to another flea who luckily was opened
where I found this great Parlophone/EMI 7"-single, a release from 1981
with Peter Sellers doing Beatles "She Loves You" in the manner of the
mad ex-nazi from Dr Strangelove.
I have heard this earlier on the excellent club Sunkit in Stockholm and
was very excited to find it. Side B will be new to me, that one is
inspirated of Phil mcCafferty - The Irish Dentist. I havent the faintest
who that can be, or how it will sound.

I believe this single is the first official release of this material,
does anyone know where it comes from? a TV show or something?

Now Moritz and katja is heading for Gotland, a small island in the
Baltic Sea who is inhabited by Ingmar Bergmans, large mysterious caves,
natureformed tikis and Pippi Longstockings. If they get back to
Stockholm in one piece i will join them next weekend for a trip to Oslo
and the Kon-Tiki Museum.

Full report on that trip later.
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From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's
Date: 20 Jun 1998 10:54:11 -0700


At 07:57 AM 6/20/98 PDT, you wrote:
>
>hmmm.....
>just a question....
>why dont you buy the original wanderly lps? not only does they feel and
>sound better, they are also cheaper than the cd-reissues. i even find
>them in sweden for less than $10.
>
>mahna mahna gnus
Because they DON'T sound better.  The sound quality of Scamp's "Music for
the Jet Set" is excellent, and I don't miss the vinyl's surface noise one
little bit.  Can't speak for the Verve comp, I passed it up when I saw the
cheese references.  I do, however, have the vinyl copy of "Batucada" (Verve
V-8706), which is excellent.  Can't wait till it gets re-released on CD!

Dave


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From: "Terry" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Matt Monro
Date: 21 Jun 1998 08:41:05 +1000


On 20/06/98, at 12:33, darren hutton wrote:

>
>Hello!
>
>I don't know if this helps, but Matt Monro had a record called=
 "Wednesday's Child," and Matt did sound a little
>like Sinatra.

Love Munro's voice. His choice of material sometimes stank, but numbers=
 like "On Days Like These" are classic
Terry


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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WELK: FW: Lite Bulbs
Date: 20 Jun 1998 21:26:10 Pacific Daylight Time




--------
>From: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: WELK: FW: Lite Bulbs
>Date: June 20, 1998
>
>Welk Friends --
>
>I don't know if people are apprehensive about posting now, or maybe I'm
>just not getting e-mails, or what -- but I thought I would send the
>following along as an ice breaker.  I found it amusing.  Especially with
>everything we've all encountered lately.  I hope everyone is well.  And
>listening to their Welk albums...
>
>Speaking of, a friend just sent me a tape of some great Welk music.  And
>on the tape was Sandi and Salli singing "Snowbird".  What a wonderful
>arrangement.  Does anyone else have this?  I've been playing it over and
>over.  Sandi and Salli have/had such a distinctive style and blend.  So
>warm.
>
>So here's a little humor for everyone...
>
> --Christopher
>
>**************************
>
>Q:  How many Internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a
>light bulb?
>
>A:  1,331:
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> 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light
>bulb has been changed
>
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>
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>
> 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) WELK: FW: Lite Bulbs
Date: 20 Jun 1998 21:25:36 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-20 21:20:33 EDT, you write:

<< Q:  How many Internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a
 >light bulb? >>

OK, so how may people are there on the mailing list????

Lazlo, are you listening???


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 2-17-98 Playlist
Date: 20 Jun 1998 20:01:52 -0700


 KFJC play list 2/15/98 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                     TRACK                 ALBUM
_________________________________________________________________
 The Planets                Chunky                45, 1960,61 U.K.

 Oliver Nelson Orch         Freedom Dance         Prestige, 1961

 Billy Mure's Super-
 Sonic Guitars              El Cumbanchero        M-G-M

 Warren Barker Orch.        Far Away Places       1959
 Phil Kraus                 Prelude and Fugue     Conflict!
 Billy Strange Orch.        Group Therapy         Bunny O'hare Ost

 Phil Upchurch              Swing Low Sweet
                            Chariot

 Riz Ortolani               Tarantella Grottesca
 Don Elliott                Blues for Maaaaaaaaax

 Lucas and Friends          Deck the Halls &      Fuck Yeah!
                            Donuts

 George Barnes              Rockabilly Boogie     Country Guitar!
 Claus Ogerman Orch         Stingray              Watusi Trumpets
 Sandra Alassondroni        You Tried to Warn Me
 Fleetwood Mac              Fighting for Madge
 Kraftwerk                  Pocket Calculator     In German
 Augusto Martelli           Mood                  Easy Tempo Vol 1

 Boots Brown and
 His Blockbusters           Trollin'              RCA, mid 50's, 45 RPM

 Barney Kessel-Guitar       with the Poll Winners/
 Shelly Manne-Drums         When the Red Red      1956
 Ray Brown-Bass             Robin Comes Bob Bob Bobin'
                            Along

 Narration                  Mondo Topless-Intro   [coll]: Russ Meyer

 Gabor Szabo W/             Bill Plummer-Sitar
 California Dreamers        Are You there ?       Impulse, 1967

 Mike Curb                  The Fun Zone          Mary Jane Ost
 Short Rogers Giants        Lunar Montunar

 Louis Bellson Orch         Breakthrough          Project 3
 W/ Pete Christlieb

 Lalo Schifrin              On the Way to San     Bullitt, Request
                            Mateo

 Lalo Schifrin              Medical Center
 Burt Bacharach Orch        After the Fox         Instrumental
 Howard Roberts Qrt         Dirty Old Bossa Nova  Capitol, 1963

 Bill Jennings-Guitar       Hey Mrs. Jones        Al Jennings-Vibes
 Jack Mcduff-Organ

 Ennio Morricone            S.O.S.                Malamondo

 Chet Baker Qrt. W/                               Pac Jazz, 10
 Russ Freeman-Piano         Isn't It Romantic

 Joe Vennerri               Day of Wrath          Rites of Exorcism

 Barbarella                 Barbarella            Vinnie Bell-
                            Goodnight Alfie       Electric Guitar and
                            Spaceship Out of
                            Control               Effects
                            Ski Ride
                            The Hungry Dolls

 Perrey, Jean
 Jacques/Chazam,D.          Neutronia             Eklectronics

 Umiliani, Piero            Nel Cosmo             Sweden Heaven and Hell

 Nuclear Bomb Explosion      That's it:)

 The Working Group          Young Amazzonia       Mo'plen 3000
 Gianni Oddi                Geronimo              [coll]: Psycho Be
 Mark Bruton                Suspicious Part 8     Library Music

 Montefiori Cocktail-
 Live From Kfjc-Fm          Another B

 Gerhard Narholz &Jurgen
 Jaenne                     Pop Promotion         [coll]: Music for

 Dizzy Gillespie Orch       Africana
 Brass Managerie            Mambo
 Sandro Brugnognili         Diacromeico

 Dean Elliot Orch.          Formost Milk
                            Studio Instro Music

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 21
Date: 21 Jun 1998 00:47:44 -0400


"Space Bop" (formerly "The Single Eye") can be heard every Sunday at 4pm
on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl.
Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space
The Final Frontier!  Comments & questions welcome.

June 14 - Offbeat Cover Versions (with special thanks to Allan for the
inspiration!)


Perrey & Kingsley:  Strangers In The Night  "The Essential Perrey &
Kingsley"

Arthur Lyman:  Hawaii Five-0  "Sonic Sixties"

Friends Of Dean Martinez:  The Shadow Of Your Smile  "The Shadow Of Your
Smile"

Laika & The Cosmonauts:  Experiment In Terror  "Instruments Of Terror"

Hybrid Kids:  McArthur Park  "Hybrid Kids"

Pascal Comelade:  The Way I Walk  "33 Bars"

Lemon Kittens:  Shakin' All Over  "Spoonfed & Writhing"

Ptose:  Smelly Tongues  "Face De Crabe"

Nash The Slash:  Dead Man's Curve  "The Million Year Picnic"

Caresse & Sickmob:  R U Experienced?  "R U Experienced?"

The Residents:  Don't Be Cruel  "Don't Be Cruel"

Psyclones:  Hound Dog  "Memorial Elvis Project"

Laibach:  Sympathy For The Devil  "Sympathy For The Devil"

Dick Hyman:  Fiddler On The Roof  "Keyboard Kaleidoscope"

Gina X:  Drive My Car  "Yinglish"



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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Get Easy!
Date: 21 Jun 1998 03:19:02 EST


Johan wrote:

> Various -- Get Easy Vol. 3 -- The French Pops Collection
>     the package is not great at all, it looks ugly and cheap to me,
>     others might call it "retro"... liner notes are in german.
I have to agree!  Given that the German volume cost more than any
other CD I've bought in recent memory, plus the fact that it has
Polygram (money) behind it, you'd figure they could afford a
better printing job. I'm sure there's a reason somehow and I'm
suspicious that Motor isn't getting all they might out of their
afiliation with a major label.

>     if you want to hear some *really* groovy, trippy, insane French
>     (instromental) pop, try to find the "Orchestral Party (act 1...)"
>     comp cd (i think Vik has a page on it)
Thanks! I've seen this one around town a lot and will pick it
up.  I thought it said acte 2, though I've never seen any
first volume. Anyone know?

>     I liked "Get easy 4: the German Pops collection" (Motor, germany)
> That one only has 2 crap tracks, by Katja Ebstein, and Lilian
> Atterer; both  very plain 60's popular vocals. 8 other are vocal
> tracks, the remaining 14 are instromentals.
> all in all a very soulful and funky compilation, with plenty of that
> "European" big band sound.
It's interesting you refer to these 2 as crap tracks. Let me
explain: I've been trying to bring up "Schlager" on this list for
some time. I think I've now heard enough to know that what I was
searching for in terms of German "Schlager" is exactly what is on Get
Easy - France. I really like the German big band sound and the
Get Easy comp, however there is some incredibly good German vocal
(Schlager) music out there, the best of it seeming to date from late
50's to late 60's. Moritz mentioned to me that he suggested this to
Motor when they assembled the comps but at the time they didn't take
his advice, though they seemingly went the vocal route for the French
volume.  I'm a bit puzzled why there is such an imbalance in
the types of selections for each country?  I do think the only
solution is to release another version of each with the accompanying
complememtary style - Volume 5 & 6 respectively. I know on the German
side, these records: France Gall (German vocals), Wencke Myrrhe, Conny
Froboess, Uschi Glas, Detlev Engel, Heidi Bruehl, etc. simply do not
exist in North America as there was no market for them here when they
were released. On the French side, we in Quebec are luckier than most
on the continent to have a decent selection but even so, there is a
lot of crap mixed in. The Motor compilation will help as a guide so
I'm grateful for is existence.

Hopefully Moritz will have more to say on this subject upon his
return.

BrianBrian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) tv highlights for exoticateers
Date: 21 Jun 1998 12:03:43 -0400


US TV notes for this week (eastern daylight times)...

A&E's "Biography", 8:00pm weeknights:
Tuesday: Ernie Kovacs
Wednesday: Arthur Godfrey
Thursday: Annette Funicello
Friday: The Nelson Family (Ozzie, Harriet, Rick, etc)

Bravo:
Thursday at 5:00pm and Friday at 1:30pm: "Erendira" (1983), a Mexican
production of a Gabriel Garcia Marquez story.
Saturday at 11:00am: Felllini's "Amarcord" (1974).

AMC:
Saturday at 11:00pm: "The Third Man" (1949).

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Zoot Sims: "Recado Bossa Nova"
Date: 21 Jun 1998 15:05:27 +0200


Brad Bigelow mentioned this cd:
Zoot Sims: "Recado Bossa Nova" (Fresh Sounds), telling: "reissue of two
1962 Colpix LPs, "The New Beat of Bossa Nova" vols 1 & 2. Arrangements by
Al Cohn and Manny Albam, choice assortment of NY jazz session men, and the
peerless Zoot Sims, a self-effacing veteran session man and occasional star
with a beautiful tone.  And the great Jim Hall on guitar. The title cut is
a gem, and there is not a cut that's less than gorgeous."

i couldn't find it anywhere in the big online mailorder stores, so it must
be either deleted, or very very brand new...

        Johan


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Subject: (exotica) Re: walter wanderley's cd's
Date: 21 Jun 1998 17:16:07 +0200


>From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>

>Does anybody knows if songs from the Scamp cd ALL duplicates on the
>Motor Music release?
>Scamp cd features:

= 1. Summer Samba
  2. It's A Lovely Day Today (w. A. Gilberto)
= 3. Cheganca (The Great Arrival)
  4. Call Me (w. A. Gilberto)
= 5. Taste Of  Sadness
  6. Here's That Rainy Day (w. A. Gilberto)
  7. O Menino Decse O Morro
= 8. The Girl From Ipanema
  9. A Certain Sadness
  10. Agua De Beber
  11. Cry Out Your Sadness
= 12. Nega Do Cabelo Duro (w. A. Gilberto)
  13. Bossa No Praia (Beach Samba)
= 14. O Ganso
  15. So Nice (Sumer Samba; w. A. Gilberto)

    *** the ones starting with = are also on the Motor cd
    (although i cannot be sure if they are the same recordings/versions)

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Subject: (exotica) Re:  Our Man Flint confusion
Date: 21 Jun 1998 17:06:03 +0200


>From: "Dick Diablo" <[e-mail]>

>I am currently enjoying the recent In Like Flint/Our Man Flint release from
>Varese/Fox Classics
<!--cut-->
>and there are a few cuts that are missing altogether (no "Galaxy A
>Go-Go", my fave, dammit!)

    that track IS featured on the damned expensive German Tsunami
    "Von Ryan's Express (suite)/Our Man Flint/In Like Flint" rerelease...

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Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter's TEEN DRUMS & Esquivel's GENIUS OF...
Date: 21 Jun 1998 17:58:00 EDT


Hey everyone, I'm new to this wacky world of exotica newsgroup/list....looks
like it'll be a blast!..I've been big into this music for the last 3 years or
so.. and have a nice, but small colletion of exotica LP's (around
200)...anyhow, I have to brag to someone---


I just found the finds of my life today (ok, not really, but I like to think
so...lol), at a recored store in Pasadena,Ca I found in VG shape TEEN DRUMS in
Stereo for $1, and GENIUS of ESQUIVEL in mono, sealed! for $.50! Man, I really
dig the Teen Drums LP...reminds me of Skins--but a tad better.

What can I say about the king Juan? Do wish this was in Stereo, but why knock
it--since I just saw this LP down in Orange Co. for $75 in VG- shape! Yikes!

Any word on the rest of the BAR-NONE re-releases of E's LP's? Anr they coming,
or are they doa?


Jayson


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Subject: Re: (exotica) tv highlights for exoticateers
Date: 21 Jun 1998 19:39:08 -0400


Sorry, missed this one earlier...

Very late Wednesday night or very early Thursday morning (however you want to
look at it) at 4:00am (eastern) on A&E: "Our Man In Havana" -- leisurely
spy-comedy with Alec Guinness, Maureen O'Hara, Ernie Kovacs, Burl Ives, Noel
Coward and more. Directed by Carol Reed. May have been shot on location in
Cuba, but I may well be wrong about that.

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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) walter wanderley's cd's
Date: 22 Jun 1998 03:09:02 PDT



>>hmmm.....
>>just a question....
>>why dont you buy the original wanderly lps? not only does they feel
and
>>sound better, they are also cheaper than the cd-reissues. i even find
>>them in sweden for less than $10.
>>
>>mahna mahna gnus
>Because they DON'T sound better.  The sound quality of Scamp's "Music
for the Jet Set" is excellent, and I don't miss the vinyl's surface
noise one little bit.  Can't speak for the Verve comp, I passed it up
when I saw the cheese references.  I do, however, have the vinyl copy of
"Batucada" (Verve V-8706), which is excellent.  Can't wait till it gets
re-released on CD!

Bellybongo don't understand... Bellybongo thinks the only thing superior
with compact discs is the longer playing time. Bellybongo listens to
compact discs when he wants a relaxing bath in his bathtub, and he
believes they invented the compact disc for that purpose.

Vinyl is sexy.
--
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From: Georg Zoche <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Oriental Schmaltzalarm Grooves
Date: 22 Jun 1998 11:09:53 -0400


For all the Munich Exoticats on this list:

...tomorrow, Tuesday 23rd I'll be spinning with my brother at the Atomic
Cafe (Neuturmstr. 5), going deeper and deeper, VERY DEEEEP, until the
bottom of the sea for this 'Night Of Forbidden Oriental And Exotica
Schmaltzalarm Grooves'. The night starts at 9 pm and don't be late, else
you might miss some of our submerging surprises (and yes, it's o.k. if you
arrive hungry there, if you don't mind exotica fffffffood)

from the bottom of the sea, i remain very truly yours

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From: Marcus Kozica <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Records! - as opposed to - The Volatile Record Industry
Date: 22 Jun 1998 18:21:30 +0200


Yo,

Dear Mr. Charles Moseley,


Well, see - CD:s vs. records is tricky. $'s ain't doin' it all.

The record IS the interface while CD:s aren't; your buttons
on your CD player are. I (think I) know you know it's a different
thing to put on a record compared to put on a CD. On top of all this
comes the Vintage thing - we are all gatherers and find it fun just to
collect Stuff in General - or who on earth throws away everything that
doesn't have any future use. - Hey, I really don't need Granny's ol'
crap!

Besides, we can always have CD:s TOO - super cool, $'s are gonna flow
everywhere and
the Industry can go on! I can NOT blame MGM for Moon Gas or RCA for
Exploring The Unknown,
or UAS for Inspector Clouseau OR EVEN UNI for Stones, GNP for What? -
Moog Rock???????????????.

Mebbie I am taking this too far?
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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) You Spin Me Like A Record
Date: 22 Jun 1998 14:15:50 Pacific Daylight Time



RECORDS VS> CD's

Here's my two cents!

I much prefer the sound of CD'd to LP's......But I know that many of you are the opposite, and there's nothing
wrong with that at all.

But I will say this, I just love to watch a record spin aroun on a turntable. Also, if I'm reading, to look up once
in a whil from across the room and see a record goin' 'round.

Anyone else share this experience?

Darren


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From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) You Spin Me Like A Record
Date: 22 Jun 1998 11:37:45 -0700


>RECORDS VS> CD's
>
>Here's my two cents!
>
>I much prefer the sound of CD'd to LP's......But I know that many of you
>are the opposite, and there's nothing
>wrong with that at all.
>
>But I will say this, I just love to watch a record spin aroun on a
>turntable. Also, if I'm reading, to look up once
>in a whil from across the room and see a record goin' 'round.
>
>Anyone else share this experience?


i find this to be especially fun with marbled, patterned or picture disks.

 As far as cd's vs. lp's, i have to say that  the LP always has something
that the cd lacks:  A good-sized canvas to display the art and liner notes.
I even hang some of my older records on the wall, because the covers are so
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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) You Spin Me Like A Record
Date: 22 Jun 1998 11:41:05 +0000


darren hutton wrote:
>
> But I will say this, I just love to watch a record spin aroun on a turntable. Also, if I'm reading, to look up once
> in a whil from across the room and see a record goin' 'round.
>


I may have mentioned this in a recent thread about vinyl: I love the
ritual of cleaning and cue-ing a record. Watching it spin is
mesmerizing, and I have listened to an entire album side while
watching the platter turn. 331/3 seems to be the perfect speed for
eliciting calm. Aaaaahhhhhh.

I have also perfected the art of reading records while they spin.


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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the berkeley item
Date: 22 Jun 1998 17:40:17 Pacific Daylight Time




>New on Compact Disc: THE SIR DOUGLAS QUINTET's 1983 Takoma release, "Live
>Texas Tornado," which was recorded at Club Foot in Austin and the Whiskey
>in Los Angeles. Leader DOUG SAHM "invariably delivers roots music with the
>downhome dirt still clinging to it," writes annotator Michael Point.
><http://www.fantasyjazz.com/sahmd6505.html>http://www.fantasyjazz.com/sahmd
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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) interviews
Date: 22 Jun 1998 17:44:07 Pacific Daylight Time




What, oh what, is more exotic than piano, vibes and sax!

Darren!
--------
>From: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: interviews
>Date: June 22, 1998
>
>
>Hi,
>
>Here is the latest list of interviews scheduled for my show which airs Mon=
da
>y
>=A9 Thursday from 7 pmuntil midnight on WGBH, Boston. On Eric in the Eveni=
ng
>,
>Tuesday
>interviews are at 10:15 while interviews on Wednesday and Thursday start a=
t
>9:pm. All are live.
>
>A promoter generally calls me and tells me that they have John Smith
>performing on June 25, for example, and they ask if I'm interested in doin=
g=20
>an
>interview on the 24th. If I say yes, I then list the interview as tentativ=
e.
>At this point, neither the artist nor his management are aware of the
>interview. It's possible the artist has a gig in another city and that
>information hasn't gotten back to me. Interviews that are tentative are
>indicated as (T).
>
>Any artist listed without a club name is most likely promoting a new CD an=
d
>couldn't schedule an interview near a club appearence.
>
>
>June 23 - Tribute to Cal Tjader - Vibists Eddie Palmieri and Dave Samuels
>Scullers
>June 25 =A9 Saxophonist Michael Brecker       Regattabar
>June 30 =A9 Vibist Laura Allen      Maison Robert=E1'=E1s Music on the Ter=
ra
>ce
>July 1 =A9 Pianist Frank Wilkins
>July 7 =A9 Pianist Laslo Gardony     Regattabar
>July 8 =A9 Vocalist Rebecca Parris     (T)  Regattabar
>July 9 =A9 Gene Arnold,   producer, Marblehead Jazz
>July 14 =A9 Guitarist Randy Roos
>July 15 =A9 Saxophonist Greg Abate
>July 16 =A9 Drummer Norman Conners & vocalist Angela Bofill     (T) Sculle=
rs
>July 21 =A9 Trumpeter Nicholas Peyton     (T) Scullers
>July 22 =A9 Vocalist Luciana Souza     Regattabar
>July 23 =A9 Vocalist Shelly Neil
>July 28 =A9 Saxophonist Mark Shalansky     (T) Regattabar
>July 29 =A9 Aug 6=A9 FUND RAISING No Interviews
>Aug. 11 =A9 Saxophonist Greg Tardy     (T) Scullers
>Aug 12 =A9 Heavy Metal Horns     (T) Regattabar
>Aug 13 =A9 Saxophonist Cercie Miller     (T) Regattabar
>
>VACATION
>
>Sept 3 =A9 Vocalist Titilayo Ngwenya     (T) Regattabar
>Sept. 9 =A9 David White     (T) Regattabar
>Sept 10 =A9 Vocalist/pianist Mose Allison     (T) Scullers or Saxophonist =
Sc
>ott
>Hamilton    (T)=0BRegattabar
>Sept 15 =A9 Guitarist Garrison Fewell     (T) Regattabar
>Sept 22 =A9 Vocalist Patrice Williamson     (T) Regattabar
>Sept 23 =A9 Pianist McCoy Tyner     (T) Regattabar (This happens to be
>Coltrane=E1'=E1s Birthday)
>Sept 24 =A9 Saxophonist Paul Combs
>Sept 29 =A9 Pianist Pierre Hurel     (T) Regattabar
>Sept 30 =A9 Guitarist Mark Elf     Ryles
>October 1 =A9 Vocalist Mili Bermejo     (T) Regattabar
>October 6 =A9 Guitarist Jim Hall     (T) Scullers or Vocalist Dominique Ea=
de
>(T) Regattabar
>October 8 =A9 Trumpeter Tiger Okshi     (T) Regattabar
>October 13 =A9 Saxophonist Joshua Redman     (T) Regattabar
>Oct 14 =A9 26 =A9 FUNDRAISING    NO interviews
>Nov 4 =A9 Pianist Marian McPartland (T) Scullers
>
>
>
>Eric D. Jackson
>
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Subject: (exotica) Enjoy!
Date: 22 Jun 1998 17:47:34 Pacific Daylight Time


Hello, all!

Enjoy!

>On The WEB - www.mpls.k12.mn.us/kbem/index.html

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Boston Loungecore
Date: 22 Jun 1998 20:50:39 EDT


Friday, June 26th at 8:30pm at Mama Kin: Cheeseball Magazine presents "Lush",
a showcase of the Best of Boston Loungecore with AstroSlut (Lounge Laura's
band), Seks Bomba, X-Ray Tango, Lifestyle and Miss Stacy (Cheeseball
publisher) mining the 12's. Mama Kin is located at 36 Lansdowne St. behind
Boston's Kenmore Square by Fenway Park. (Combustible Edison won't be there
:-(, but i had the chance to hear some of their new recording last night
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From: Jeff Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) interviews
Date: 22 Jun 1998 16:24:43 -0700


At 05:44 PM 6/22/98, Darren Hutton wrote:

>What, oh what, is more exotic than piano, vibes and sax!

Though this appears to be more of a declaration than a question, I think
I'll answer anyway (and start out, of course, by asking a question of my
own).  What, oh what, causes you to think that these three instruments are
any more exotic than a guitar?  Sure, you might be thinking that use of
these "exotic" instruments is limited to Denny, Lyman, and Ravel--but don't
forget John Tesh, Victor Feldman, and Kenny G.

An instrument by itself does not connote a musical genre (with the possible
exception of the koto and the ukulele), so if by "exotic" you mean rare,
then the answer would be very, very long.

Of course, you may mean that the *combination* of these three instruments is
exotic--again, I beg to differ.  There must be hundreds of lousy jazz bands
that use these.  Organ, electric guitar, and accordion is a far more exotic
combo to my ears.  :-)

Your list of interviewees is also quite puzzling.  What does it have to do
with exotica?

EZ does it,

Jeff Phillips

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Red Norvo
Date: 23 Jun 1998 11:33:56 PDT



I picked up an lp recently, on Mercury, I think, with The Command Jazz
Pickers, featuring Red Norvo. I cannot stop playing this thing. Though
my knowledge of Jazz is remedial at best, I know Norvo has been around
awhile and is not an entirely obscure figure. Can anyone suggest some cd
titles for those among us who wish to become better acquainted with his
work?

Thanks,

Ben Waugh

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Subject: Re: (exotica) interviews - Blasphamy ! ! !
Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:28:43 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-23 12:51:47 EDT, you write:

<< Sure, you might be thinking that use of
 these "exotic" instruments is limited to Denny, Lyman, and Ravel--but don't
 forget John Tesh, Victor Feldman, and Kenny G. >>

Please do not us the names Martin Denny and Kenny G. in the same sentence . .
. and, preferably not in the same email.  I am using a chisel to get the
goosebump off the back of my neck and my left eye lid continues to twitch.

Robert


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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Apology From Jeff!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:47:51 Pacific Daylight Time




--------
>From: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: Well!
>Date: June 23, 1998
>
>At 01:27 PM 6/23/98, you wrote:
>
>>Jeff!
>>
>>So you didn't like my contribution. Oh well. I happen to think that piano,
>vibes and sax are very exotic, if used properly (obviuosly). Why would I
>talk about lousy music?
>>
>>Anyway, the joke's on you. I posted it in response to a question someone
>had asked me. I guess I should have posted it to them directly instead of
>posting it the group. I'm new to all this, and I'm still learning.
>>
>>Seriously, now, what musical genre does a ukelele connote? Every Sonny
>James record ever made had a ukelele on it, does it connote country music?
>
>Sorry Darren, I didn't mean to offend.  I had a long day at work yesterday,
>and was apparently in an unforgivable mood.
>
>Good point about the uke.
>
>EZ does it,
>
>Jeff
>
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From: darren hutton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) site suggestion
Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:15:22 Pacific Daylight Time





--------
>From: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: site suggestion
>Date: June 23, 1998
>
>    Check out the site GearSearch.com: The musician=92s resource for
>finding music instrument and equipment retailers.
>http://www.gearsearch.com.   It has
>sections for Guitar, bass, drums and percussion, recording, pro audio,
>MIDI, used
>instruments, vintage gear, and more.  It also has a huge list of music
>instruments
>retailers and is searchable by states. Additionally, there is a free
>catalog section
>where you can request more than 45 catalogs! I've had problems finding
>music retailers on the
>web, so I decided to construct this site and now just want to pass it on
>so other
>musicians can find retailers swiftly and surely!
>    The reason I am send You this is because my site may be very
>valuable to people on your mailing list.  GearSearch takes the hassle
>out of going through the search
>engines to search for instrument retailers which literally can take
>hours. I've put almost every music retailers that has a website
>onGearSearch. thanks for a look
>
>regards,
>
>Erik Ramsaur
>
>
>



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From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) fwd: MusicHound Lounge book
Date: 23 Jun 1998 21:40:44 GMT


In alt.culture.lounge, [e-mail] (RLott) wrote:

MusicHound (the guys behind the VideoHound book series) just released
a huge guide to lounge music. I just picked it up last night ($24.95
cover price), so I haven't read it, but the sheer wealth of
information here is incredible.

Five-hundred pages are devoted to individual artist profiles and
discographies, followed by reviews of compilation albums, reviews of
lounge movies, listings of lounge books/zines, listings of lounge
radio stations and tons more.

Best of all -- as with every other MusicHound book (the new
"Soundtracks" book is also worth a pick-up) -- it comes with a free
CD. In this case, it's (naturally) an Ultra-Lounge sampler, comprised
of 24 tracks from the last six volumes.

This book promises to be one of those rare read-every-word reference
works. I'd also recommend getting Dylan Jones' "Ultra-Lounge: The
Lexicon of Easy Listening." Supposedly, it's been discontinued because
of copyright infringments, but I've seen it at Barnes & Noble stores
across the U.S. for more than a year now.

Lastly, a friend of mine from journalism school co-wrote a lounge book
with a work colleague that is due out this fall. Don't know the name
of it, but half is supposed to be interviews, and the other half an
album guide.


Rod Lott
HITCH: The Journal of Pop Culture Absurdity
http://www.ionet.net/~twilken/HITCH

In alt.culture.lounge, Productions <[e-mail]> wrote:
You are right about the "Lexicon of Lounge" book, and the others that
you mentioned. I have them available from the surflounge.com web site.
Let me know if your friend want his book listed too. Aloha from the
Crazy Joe on the beach.
Beach information and lounge entertainment
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) CD vs LP vs Left-Handed Monkey Wrench
Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:58:38 -0400


Just for fun, how about throwing a left-handed monkey wrench into the old LP vs
CD debate...

CD's and LP's both sound like doodie compared to LIVE music. Especially if
acoustic. More iffy the more dependent it is on a PA or sound system. All bets
off if the soundman is a moron.

Which brings up a question I've been meaning to ask (hoping things might pick
up around here): Has anyone caught any relevant (or semi-relevant) live
performances lately? Please tell us the tale.

Thanks,

m.ace  [e-mail]
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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP - Live vs Memorex
Date: 23 Jun 1998 14:24:11 +0000


That is a given, Ace. There is no substitute for live
performance.

I have come to regard recorded performances with a completely
different set of expectations much in the one would think
of sculpture compared to dance.

Apart from their inability to accurately reproduce the live experience
though, recordings can do things that live performances cannot. The
example that springs to mind is Les Paul or Chet Atkins, two artists
who painted the magnetic canvas with recording tricks. I cannot imagine
how these would be aproximated in a live setting.

Most recent live performance for me: Bomboras at the Agenda in San Jose.
Wild Ass surf from the ugliest bunch LA punks what ya ever did see.
This is a good example for this discussion - I don't much care for the
recorded stuff I've heard of them. I don't dislike it... I could take it
or leave it. But put me in the same room, pour some doctored-up gin
down my throat, light the Farfisa organ on fire with some Ronsonal
lighter fluid, and I'm gonna respond! I'm told holding up a lighter
and shouting "Freebird!" is no longer acceptable behaviour at concerts.
(Maybe that's still not the case at Arena shows)


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Red Norvo
Date: 23 Jun 1998 17:58:01 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-23 14:36:32 EDT, you write:

<< I picked up an lp recently, on Mercury, I think, with The Command Jazz
 Pickers, featuring Red Norvo. I cannot stop playing this thing. Though
 my knowledge of Jazz is remedial at best, I know Norvo has been around
 awhile and is not an entirely obscure figure. Can anyone suggest some cd
 titles for those among us who wish to become better acquainted with his
 work? >>

Ah, the wide, wonderful world of jazz, the meat and potatoes BACKBONE to so
much of what we hear, but don't think of as jazz.  It's everywhere.

Thank heaven there is no shortage of classic jazz recordings filling the
shelves of stores.  Why on earth would someone buy Kenny G when you can have
Art Pepper, Zoot Sims or John Coltrane?

Red Norvo is certainly one of the greats with too many titles to list.
Go to the ALL MUSIC GUIDE site and type in "Red Norvo" or visit your bookstore
or library and pick up the ALL MUSIC GUIDE TO JAZZ and read all about him and
individual descriptions of the large selection of titles.  Then head on down
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Red Norvo
Date: 23 Jun 1998 23:48:13 EDT


Well it's the Red Norvo Quintet playing behind Sinatra on his recently (within
the last two years) released live CD from Australia.  It's Sinatra's jazziest
recording (officially released, anyway) and really a fine bit of music.  Red
was one of the top West Coast Jazz vibes players.  His LPs fetch big collector
prices because relatively few of them have been reissued on CD.  Hmmmm, seems
to me I read in a jazz guide that he did a Bossa Nova LP that's highly
desirable.  You should check with Jack Diamond, he's a big Red Norvo (and West
Coast Jazz) fan.

--David


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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Instru-mental (thoughts on instruments)
Date: 24 Jun 1998 08:06:09 -0400


> >>Seriously, now, what musical genre does a ukelele connote? Every Sonny
> >James record ever made had a ukelele on it, does it connote
> country music?

I find this interesting, although I have a Sonny James record ("Running
Bear" on Capitol in the 70's) which I don't recall hearing a ukelele on.  I
will listen again.

The same may go for the banjo, which has it's roots in Africa (Take one
turtle shell, hollowed...) as well as the accordion, which I would rather
associate with Zydeco, even though it found it's way to New Orleans via
German Immigrants ("Fraulein von Spain, ich liebe dich!")

I never would have imagined a sitar playing Lemon Tree, or imagined that a
solo zither would lend an exotic mood to "The Third Man", but that is the
true joy of exotica or any music; the discovery!

Brian "Cabeza de Vaca" Phillips




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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Visit exotic locations, virtually
Date: 24 Jun 1998 10:24:07 -0500


SITE LETS YOU SPY FROM SPACE

Spies get ready.  MICROSOFT is set to launch a promotion on TerraServer, a
web site for accessing USGS and SPIN-2 satellite images of the U.S. and
Europe.

Zoom in up to *1 meter* resolution on specific locations...

Say, on your neighbor's backyard?

Perhaps.

"Did you ever wonder what your neighborhood looked like from space, or
wished you could get an aerial shot of your favorite vacation spot? Welcome
to MICROSOFT TerraServer, one of the most unique Web sites on the Internet,"
the software giant says in an introduction.

Early coverage is incomplete, but the image database is already said to be
the largest ever compiled on the Internet.

http://terraserver.microsoft.com

You can find shortcuts to famous places at:

http://terraserver.microsoft.com/getpickpage.asp
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From: [e-mail] (Hess Jeffery)
Subject: (exotica) Organs
Date: 24 Jun 1998 10:30:40 -0500



 I have this crazy organ I use w/band that I bought for $20, the only
thing is says is, "Porto Organ-made in Italy".  I've never seen one
before or since.  It's great for making porno soundtracks.  I'd like
to know if anyone else has heard of them and would know something
about the
manufacturer.


Jeffery Hess

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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Red Norvo
Date: 24 Jun 1998 09:13:53 PDT


Thanks! This is the sort of response I was after.


>Well it's the Red Norvo Quintet playing behind Sinatra on his recently
(within
>the last two years) released live CD from Australia.  It's Sinatra's
jazziest
>recording (officially released, anyway) and really a fine bit of music.
Red
>was one of the top West Coast Jazz vibes players.  His LPs fetch big
collector
>prices because relatively few of them have been reissued on CD.  Hmmmm,
seems
>to me I read in a jazz guide that he did a Bossa Nova LP that's highly
>desirable.  You should check with Jack Diamond, he's a big Red Norvo
(and West
>Coast Jazz) fan.
>
>--David
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) MusicHound Lounge book
Date: 24 Jun 1998 10:05:38 -0500



>In alt.culture.lounge, [e-mail] (RLott) wrote:
>I'd also recommend getting Dylan Jones' "Ultra-Lounge: The
>Lexicon of Easy Listening." Supposedly, it's been discontinued because
>of copyright infringments, but I've seen it at Barnes & Noble stores
>across the U.S. for more than a year now.

CONTAINS FOUR (4!) sets of liner notes I wrote--for which Mr. Jones
never obtained permission to reprint, and for the use of which I never
got paid!!!!

Feel free to post to the list. I think Jones is a shit. He never even
apologized.

--Irwin Chusid



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Warmilizer, Grungelizer, Opcode Vinyl (27/4/'98)
Date: 24 Jun 1998 16:44 +0200


     Dear Pea Hicks,
     Dear Michael Jemmeson,
     Dear Tom Vekemans,
     Dear Sirs,

     Re: (exotica)
     Re: While shepherds wash their socks
     Info spotted on : 1998-04-27

     Please note that the concept for your machine that adds fake vinyl
     pops & crackles to cd records was not just developed by Steinberg and
     Opcode.  I first had the idea for a COMPACT DISK VINYLIZER (c)/TM in
     1991 and published a fake ad (since it's about fake sounds) for it in
     a satirical monthly called Klaxon Cintrik, vol. 1 no. 1 (Antwerp,
     Belgium, July 1996).  Xeroxes on demand...

     Kindest regards.



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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: "Orchestral Party (act 1...)"
Date: 24 Jun 1998 16:38:31 +0200


"Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I've seen this one ["Orchestral Party"] around town a lot and will pick it
>up. I thought it said acte 2, though I've never seen any
>first volume. Anyone know?

    there IS a first volume!

        Johan


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) More books
Date: 24 Jun 1998 15:14:54 -0500


I just got back from Barnes&Noble, where I picked up that MusicHound Lounge:
Essential Album Guide to Martini Music and Easy Listening, ed. by Steve
Knopper, foreword by Martin Denny (590 pages; $24.95;includes 24 cut
Ultra-Lounge compilation CD).
I think everyone will have to flip through it, if not purchase it. My quick
take is that  there's lots of info but that they had to broaden the
definitions a bit in order to get the page count up. For instance, there are
entries for Erasure, Joe Jackson, Marianne Faithfull, Jonathan Richman,
Carly Simon, Kathie Lee Gifford, etc.

While I was there I picked up a few other books:

Disco Duck and Other Adventures in Novelty Music: The true stories behind
the greatest novelty hits of all time, by Ace Collins (1998;269
pages;Berkley Boulevard;$12.00)

The Exotic in Western Music, ed. by Jonathan Bellman (1998;Northeastern
University;$25)
"The contributors examine the compositional use of exotic styles and
traditions in the works of artists as diverse as Mozart and George Harrison."

Brian Eno: His music and the vertical color of sound, by Eric Tamm (1995;De
Capo;$14.95)

Voices In Bali: Energies and perceptions in vocal music and dance theater,
by Edward Herbst (1997; Wesleyan University press;$19.95; with 17 cut CD)
My exotica of choice is Balinese/Javanese -- gimme gambelan! This book goes
into the 'place', 'time' and 'context' of Balinese theatrical presentation.

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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) And Still More Books
Date: 24 Jun 1998 14:38:04 +0000


It's not musical  but if you're on this list you might also enjoy
"Mondo Macabro : Weird & Wonderful Cinema Around the World"
by Pete Tombs.

It's a survey of the "exotic, erotic, and eccentric international
film scene".  You'll find Hong Kong kung fu movies, the Indian
song-and-dance version of "Dracula", Turkish versions of "Star Trek",
"Superman" and "Star Wars", China's "hopping vampire" films, Mexican
horror movies, Japanese softcore porn, etc., etc.   A must-have for
lovers of weird cinema!

St. Martin's Press; ISBN: 0312187483

Darrell Brogdon
Program Director
KANU
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Houston exotica
Date: 24 Jun 1998 12:44:01 -0700 (PDT)


A friend of mind went to Houston and discovered these exotic places.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,   Chuck


---david wrote:

color="purple"Yo, Chuck-e-B......where yat?
I just came back from Houston and man,do they have a lounge scene!
Here are a few club names....

Fabulous Satellite Lounge, VelvetElivis,Martini @ Chianti and the
Orchid Lounge  just to name a few. At the Orchid Lounge, Thursdays
it's Ultra Lounge Night...."...win Ultra Lounge CD's and other cool
stuff..."  But check this out...every Sun.
night the Necro Tonz play here. I never heard of 'em, you? The reason
that I bring them up is because they are a Death Lounge act from Vegas.
Death Lounge?  What is that?  I gotta hear this right now!
Have you ever heardáof Death Lounge?  It sounds too cool!  We went to
a place called Benjy's. It was smooth.  A kind of mellow lounge that
played a mix of 50's cha-cha,40's swing and 90's ambient house. It was
cool until it got a little crowded and the cigars strarted to light
up. I couldn't breathe. I want to be in a Death Lounge band(whatever
that is)!



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From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) Internet Update 06/22/98
Date: 24 Jun 1998 22:12:31 GMT



>Going Places - Las Vegas

>Getting to know Las Vegas is less of a gamble with this site. PBS's
>popular travel program stops off in Las Vegas, offering an interactive
>map and a slideshow, an insider's guide to touring the city, online
>postcards and much more.
>World Wide Web: http://www.pbs.org/goingplaces2/

>Late Show with David Letterman Web Site

>Years after they shut down the Top Ten mailing list and set aside
>a small area of its site for Letterman fans, CBS has launched the
>Late Show with David Letterman Web site. "This really means a lot
>to me, because I met my lovely wife, Kathie Lee, on the Internet,"
>quipped David Letterman. You can find the extra jokes that didn't
>quite make it into the Top Ten, Dave's comedy review with cue-card
>boy Tony "Inky" Mendez, RealVideo clips of comedy bits and guest
>interviews from the Late Show, and much more.
>World Wide Web: http://www.cbs.com

Hey, maybe they'll have a section for the Steve Young-curated "Dave's
Record Collection" segment!

-Lou



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Subject: (exotica) Ultra Lounge schemes....
Date: 24 Jun 1998 17:15:44 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-19 12:15:00 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< In Capitol's case, they put their
 full promotional might behind the UltraLounge series, and as a result those
 discs sold extremely well. >>

Ah!  One of my favorite topics.  Can you believe the amount of promotion that
has gone on - linking Ultra Lounge with AMC for a sweepstakes where the winner
gets the entire UL catalogue and a date with some lounge has-been in Palm
Springs, plus a vintage restored car!  And then there's TVLand jumping in as
well with that Rat Pack screening and the promotion of that.  Quite amazing...
they can continue to pump new life by continuing to link it to current
societal events (as in the redescoveryof the rat pack film) or by finding
these new promotional avenues (linking up with Nik at Nite and TVLand)....
What is their connection with AMC and TVLand?  Does anyone know?  They've
managed to have amazing staying power for a company that has basically been
promoting the same subject now for over 2 years.

- Michele




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Subject: Re: (exotica) The rich rich record industry
Date: 24 Jun 1998 17:15:41 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-19 10:51:18 EDT, you write:

<<  I am afraid that the record companies will quit releasing exotica
 because its not selling.  But I don't understand why the record
 companies are releasing so much obsure records in other genres as
 well.   >>

Paul Moshay once commented on the list about niche markets and I think this
may be the answer... care to elaborate on this Paul?

- Michele


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Avengers Movie
Date: 24 Jun 1998 17:37:01 EDT


Sorry if this has already been mentioned (lots of my recent email got deleted
because a co-worker was harrassing me while I was trying to read it), but did
you guys know that they are doing a movie on the old Avengers series?  It
stars Uma Thurman as Ema Peel but I don't know who the male lead is.  Saw the
previews at the movies last week.  EVen if the plot bombs, it should be a
visual sight to behold because the costumes for Uma look fabulous They got her
in a leather cat suit in at least one scene and some killer retro 60s garb in
another).  I didn't hear the Avengers theme at all during the preview though.
They can't possibly do an Avengers movie without "The Shake" can they?  I
wonder if there was a licensing problem with that?

- Michele


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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) New Avengers Movie
Date: 24 Jun 1998 16:53:51 -0500



> Sorry if this has already been mentioned (lots of my recent email
> got deleted
> because a co-worker was harrassing me while I was trying to read
> it), but did
> you guys know that they are doing a movie on the old Avengers series?  It
> stars Uma Thurman as Ema Peel but I don't know who the male lead
> is.

I belive Steed will be played by Ralph Fiennes (I just know I've spelled
that wrong)...

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moon Gas/Twilight Zone CD
Date: 24 Jun 1998 18:21:39 -0700


Hello all,

I'm not actually on this list so please e-mail me direct at
[e-mail]

Extremely Limited Quantities:

In-cre-di-ble Sound Fidelity!

Dick Hyman and Mary Mayo's "Moon Gas" (Stereo, MGM, circa early 60's)

Marty Manning's "Twilight Zone" (Stereo, Columbia, 1960)

Both on 1 CD with original front cover art

$30 plus shipping

All of you that have reserved a copy, it is truly reserved:)

Thank you all and good luck

MOON GAS is totally awesome outer space exotica lounge with some killer
upper and most outest ethereal and "straight" vocals by Mary Mayo.  Great
great GREAT Electronics by Dick Hyman and Nick Tagg w/ Vinnie Bell on
Electric Guitar and Electronic Effects.

Titles; Moon Gas, Maid of The Moon, Isn't It Odd ?, Stella By Starlight,
Imagination, Space Reflex, Bye Bye Blues, They Can't Take That Away From
Me, For All We Know, Desafinado, I'm Glad There Is You, Star Eyes

If you don't know about Marty Manning's "Twilight Zone", well here's a good
write up AND AND AND it's a BETTER record than Moon Gas, believe it or not:-)

Titles; Twilight Zone, Forbidden Planet, Lost Weekend Theme, Invitation,
You Stepped Out of A Dream, The Unknown, Far Away Places, Spellbound Concerto,
The Sorcerer's Apprentice, The Moon Is Low, Night On Bald Mountain, Shangri-La

All Instrumental, SERIOUS FEMALE ETHEREAL VOICE, ONDIOLINE, MARTENOT,
serious amount of killer percussion

Right up there at the top of the top with Moon Gas, Fantastica, Man in
Space With Sounds as far as Original Outer Space Electronic Exotica with
major amounts of Electronics and Percussion with Female Ethereal Voice

Marty Manning wrote and arranged the most recognizable version of "The
Twilight Zone"  that "most" of us have heard.

In 1960, released on Columbia an LP was released called "The Twilight Zone"
recorded in 3 different sessions;

November 7, 21 and 29th;

The "basic group" consisted of;
Marty Manning - Martenot and Ondioline
Melvin Tax-Woodwinds
Buddy Brennan-Piano
Danny Davis-Trumpet
Mundel Lowe-Electric Guitar
Bradley Spinney-Percussion

On November 7th, also present were;
Martin Grupp-Percussion
Lois Hunt-Etheral Vocal Effects
Anthony Rongo-Drums
Ed Arndt-Bass

On November 21st all of the above were present
PLUS Harry Breuer-Percussion as well as
Attilio J. Macero-Special Elctronic Effects

For years, us collectors out here in the San Francosco bay area thought
that the spelling for Mr. Macero was a TYPO and that in reality it was
Attilio Mineo on Special Effects, but we have come to learn that it was indeed
not a typo:)

On November 29th the "basic group" was increased to include;
Phil Krause, George Shaw and Martin Grupp-Percussion
Jerry Murad-Harmonica and Effects
Arnold Fromme-The Serpent

On November 7th, Titles; The Twilight Zone, The Moon is Low, The Lost
Weekend Theme were recorded.

On November 21st; The Unknown, Far Away Places, Spellbound Concerto,
Shangri-La
and You Stepped Out of A Dream were recorded.

On November 29th, Forbidden Planet, Night On Bald Mountain, Invitation and
The Sorcerer's Apprentice were recorded.

This is NOT the music of "The Twilight Zone' BUT just as weird, great and
fucked up genius audibly as that TV show was visually.

Jack



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From: "David J. Strauss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Best Record to watch spin round and round on your turntable
Date: 25 Jun 1998 00:38:06 -0400 (EDT)



With the right light: Dave Mason's _Alone Together_.

I'll leave it to others to explain.

DS
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP vs Left-Handed Monkey Wrench
Date: 25 Jun 1998 03:56:25 -0400


At 04:58 PM 23/06/98 -0400, m.ace wrote:
>CD's and LP's both sound like doodie compared to LIVE music.

And skin is softer in real life than it is in a porn tape.
What's your point?

Nat



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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) interviews - Blasphamy ! ! !
Date: 25 Jun 1998 05:14:56 -0400


At 03:28 PM 23/06/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Please do not us the names Martin Denny and Kenny G. in the same sentence
. .>. and, preferably not in the same email.

I certainly far prefer Denny to Kenny G. and I've even been known to put
Mr.G on the same shitelist as Celine Dion and that's saying something.
Having said that, I can imagine a number of sentences and certainly emails
where the two might find themselves together.

We like Denny NOW.  But that's because most of us weren't around - or all
that aware of him if (like me) we WERE around - when he was most active.
I suspect that many jazz fans of the time dismissed Denny in the exact same
way we dismiss Mr.G now.
I'm pretty sure I used to hear "Martin Denny jokes".  I think you still can.

One time, just before I got into this stuff, I asked a friend about his
parent's record collection and he dismissively laughed that all they had
were Martin Denny records.

(BTW, I once read a piece in the Village Voice which essentially said that
there was almost nothing that all jazz fans could agree on... except that
Kenny G ISN'T jazz.)

I read about how "Leis of Jazz" is Arthur Lyman's "straight jazz" record
and even though I kind of like the record, I still have to laugh at that.
Okay maybe twenty years from now, the children of today's exotica list
WON'T be waxing nostalgic about Kenny G. and the days when you could pick
his CD's up for next to nothing in used CD bins.

Still I think there's a parallel.

Nat



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Glasgow Phuture Lounge gig!
Date: 25 Jun 1998 03:33:41 -0600


Hey all!

If any of you are going to be in the Glasgow area, check out Russels pub on
Byres Road at 8pm on Sunday. DJ Mingo-go will be spinning an electric and
eclectic mix of Phuture Lounge. Totally free. In a pub. If it goes well, it
could be regular. So if you're in the area, please support! On till 11pm, I
think....

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) orchestral act and Porto porno organ
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:00:37 +0000


"Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I've seen this one ["Orchestral Party"] around town a lot and will
>pick it up. I thought it said acte 2, though I've never seen any
>first volume. Anyone know?

Johan Dada Vis wrote:
>there IS a first volume!

and it contains ultragroovy track from "Deep Throat" sung (?!) by
Gorgeous Linda!
Maybe [e-mail] (Hess Jeffery) would try to play it with
his
 >crazy organ I use w/band that I bought for $20, the only
>thing is says is, "Porto Organ-made in Italy".  I've never seen one
>before or since.  It's great for making porno soundtracks.  I'd like
>to know if anyone else has heard of them and would know something
>about the manufacturer.

Sorry no info found on the Porto label down here.
Take It Molto Easy
Gionni Paludi


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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: Re: (exotica) fwd: MusicHound Lounge book
Date: 25 Jun 1998 09:15:12 -0400


>MusicHound just released a huge guide to lounge music. I just picked it
up last >night ($24.95 cover price), so I haven't read it, but the sheer
wealth of information >here is incredible.
>>I think everyone will have to flip through it, if not purchase it.

I was trapped in Tower books during a thunderstorm on Saturday, and so
read quite a bit of this.  Basically, you can't argue with the volume of
information in there - I could certainly learn a lot from it.   But it is
also irritating with it,  because, as Lou mentions, it looks at artists
way out of the genre.  There is nothing wrong with this in principle
(indeed, bands like Divine Comedy and Tindersticks are vaguely relevant),
but the problem is that it does this from a rather contrived 'Lounge fan'
angle (eg. '"xxx" has done two albums which will appeal to the lounge
fan').  However, as Lou says, it is worth a look.

Another interesting looking book I saw recently (which may have been
mentioned in a previous thread - sorry if it was) was 'Contemporary' by
Lesley Jackson (Phaidon '94), a beautiful large format book about 50s
design - looked a bit like 'Populuxe', only bigger and with more
illustrations.

regds
Jonny

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From: Michael Hibarger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dmitri from Paris in Boston???
Date: 25 Jun 1998 11:31:12 -0400


Any Beantown list members know if Dmitri from Paris
is playing this Friday at Axis??  ...he's not listed on-line
on the Phoenix club listings, but that could be wrong.
I heard it announced on "Music for Better Living" last
night...

If you're not in Boston...sorry for this disturbance...
Mike.




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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Live vs Memorex
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:33:44 -0400


> I have come to regard recorded performances with a completely
> different set of expectations much in the one would think
> of sculpture compared to dance.

Yes, well, I was overstating the proposition a bit for clarity. I certainly
wouldn't want to do without recording technology either. Though consideration
of the "good" and "bad" effects it's had on music in this century might be
interesting, if anyone wants to get into that.

Then again, with the Y2K Bug bringing down the world power grids in a couple of
Januarys ;o), it might be a good idea to stock up on candles and ukuleles. Or
78's and hand-crank Victrolas. (is Vik still here?)

> Most recent live performance for me: Bomboras at the Agenda in San Jose.

NO one else has caught any mentionable live performances? Gee whiz. (And no, I
haven't -- I'm really lame at getting out to shows -- partly location, partly
laziness.)

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sixteenth Annual Coney Island Mermaid Parade
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:37:29 -0500


Saturday June 27, 1997 (Raindate June 28) is the
date for the 16th Annual Mermaid Parade produced by Coney Island USA.

There will be, open to the public, trophy winning competitions for
Best Mermaid Costume,                   Best King Neptune Costume,
Best Homemade Float,                    Best Marching Group and
Best Special Attraction.

Parade assembles at two places between Surf Avenue and the Boardwalk:
MARCHERS at the Cyclone Roller-Coaster on West 10 Street
VEHICLES at West 16 Street.

At 2:00 PM
the MERMAID PARADE will march South to the Boardwalk then
West to 16 Street where it will turn North to Surf Avenue.

On Surf Avenue, Antique Cars will have joined the parade in heading to the
reviewing stand at Surf Avenue and West 12th Street
in front of Coney Island USA's "Sideshows by the Seashore".

There will be ample photo opportunities at the reviewing stand.

There will be a running commentary during the parade's passage by actor Ray
Normandeau. Ray is the French speaking chef with Susan Sarandon and Willem
Dafoe in "Light Sleeper"; now in video stores.

All official ceremonies including awarding of trophies and the crowning of
the King and Queens will be at the reviewing stand. This year's Parade
features David Byrne, the Great Rock and Roll legend himself as King Neptune.
A performance of the Coney Island Sideshow with its freak show acts will take
place immediately after the parade.

One of the strangest entries in the parade will be "Nuclear Warrior", a
musical satire solo act who claims to be able to blast away all other music
to kingdom come. Scott Lifs has been pushing his "Nuclear" act for over a
decade and has produced a show at TADA theatre to media acclaim, which
according to Lifs has resulted in such media comments as;
East Coast Rocker: "Will incinerate the record industry."
Night Howl: "Top song of century."
Howard Stern: "Good for the bowels." etc. "
On stage "Nuclear Warrior" is a revue type of show using sketches to tell its
story, which is to deride all music but its own. He blasts Armstrong & Jazz,
Presley & Rock, Caruso & Opera etc., Scott Lifs hopes to finally be
discovered in time to save the World, at the Coney Island Mermaid Parade. He
has registered his solo act as a group and invites one and all to put on a
sea-worthy costume and march with him to fame and fortune. NUCLEAR WARRIOR
SHOW can be contacted by phone at 718-328-2248 or thru his web site at
http://www.wrldlnk.com/nuclearwarrior.html. If Lifs doesn't get discovered at
the Parade, he is afraid that he may have to join the freak show.

In keeping with the satirical nature of some of the parade entries,
judgeships are for sale for those who wish to sit on the reviewing stand. The
reviewing stand is where the bare breasted mermaids usually pause for photos.
Participants sometimes try to approach the bench with a bribe (mermaids
sometimes two bribes). Registration information is available from the
parade's web site at: http://www.coneyislandusa.com.

Http://www.coneyislandusa.com is replete with information relating to
carnival and circus side show freaks as well as a history of Coney Island.

Parade announcer Ray Normandeau has his own web site at:
http://www.buzznyc.com/actors/res.normandeau.raymond.html
where he can be seen with one of the bare breasted mermaids.

For additional parade and competition information call 718 372-5159.




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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Peter Sellers doing Beatles "She Loves You"
Date: 24 Jun 1998 19:46:30 +0200


>From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>

>where I found this great Parlophone/EMI 7"-single, a release from 1981
>with Peter Sellers doing Beatles "She Loves You" in the manner of the
>mad ex-nazi from Dr Strangelove.
>I have heard this earlier on the excellent club Sunkit in Stockholm and
>was very excited to find it. Side B will be new to me, that one is
>inspirated of Phil mcCafferty - The Irish Dentist.


    he tried many versions of that song, but only 5 are avialable on
    recordings: the 2 you mentioned, the "cockney version",
    "chinless wonder", only issued on the 4 cd box on EMI UK,
    and ""twits version", only available on the 7" single EMI released
    at the same time as the box. Phil mcCafferty was one of the many
    characters he played on the goon (radio) show. the "Dr Strangelove"
    version is by far the best. oddly enough, that box doesn't contain
    it!

        Johan


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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: Peter Sellers doing Beatles "She Loves You"
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:53:45 -0400


>     he tried many versions of that song, but only 5 are avialable on
>     recordings:

5 and a 1/2, actually.  On "Celebrities at Their Worst" there is a cockney
twit version, with an obscene ending.




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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) MusicHound Lounge book
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:52:33 -0400


I would want to take the time to check it out carefully before buying. A few
years ago I bought the VideoHound "Cult Flicks and Trash Pics" book a little
too quickly. I eventually came to the conclusion that it was an inferior
imitation of the original "Psychotronic" book (and 13 years later, at that!),
cranked out to exploit the new "in"-ness of b-movies (sound familiar?). It had
the page count taken up with cutesey stuff like a "category index" (ex: "Killer
Appliances", "Killer Brains", "Renegade Body Parts"), but the body of the work
had a lot of gaping holes, as far as the movie entries included (or not). It
sounds like they've tried to jam-pack this lounge book (maybe too much so?),
but I think it's once bitten, twice shy for me. I may well be wrong.

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From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Wanderley's Cheganca
Date: 25 Jun 1998 11:20:10 -0700


Does anyone out there have the Walter Wanderley album "Cheganca"?  If so,
I'd be forever grateful if you could post or e-mail me direct with the
songlist.  Also, does it list a year on it?  I think it's either 1966 or 1967.

Many thanks,

Dave


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From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) man or astroman, french pop and more....
Date: 25 Jun 1998 11:52:14 -0700


    hi there list,

My weekly music column is live and updated on the SF Chronicle's web site.
Please do check it out.  This week, Man... or Astroman?, autour de lucie,
Aisler's Set, trackstar and komeda are featured.  Oh, plus some other bands
and ittybittytidbits.

http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart

Oh, and please send the URL to anyone who might want to read this kind of
stuff.  I like the hits. The hits are good. Keep the hits coming!

muchos muchos,

jasmine




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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: radio showbiz
Date: 25 Jun 1998 17:51:58 -0400 (EDT)



hello everybody,
this is a posting to all the folks out there in exotica who are doing
radio shows.  i have been approached by an AM station here in Baltimore
to pitch them a show of ADULT MUSIC!
the airwaves here are a vast wasteland of noise pollution...i would like
to clean up the air with some of the music we discuss here.
i would like some facts to back me up when i tell them that we are
"playing catch-up" as a city NOT having this kind of music available to
our radio dials.
so anyone doing a radio show could you please drop me a line and maybe a
playlist with your area and station so i could give the station manager a
list and say "see, look at what is going on out there!"
believe me when i say i am dealing with some unenlightened minds....

help save the environment!!!!

your friend in music....bump



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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) You Spin Me Like A Record
Date: 25 Jun 1998 23:50:54 +0000


Ron Grandia wrote:

> I have also perfected the art of reading records while they spin.

Oh, so you've got a pair of those glasses with rotating lenses too!
;-)


Robbie

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From: "paul m." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) volume of obscure releases from majors.
Date: 25 Jun 1998 18:41:01 -0800



>>Paul Moshay once commented on the list about niche markets and I think this
>>may be the answer... care to elaborate on this Paul?
>
>it has to do with 'exploiting the catalog' as far as finished masters
>in their vaults go.   relative to obscure new recordings/artists it has
>to do with tapping into small but easily identifiable markets, with
>some hope these genre trends will emerge into the mainstream, imho.
>
>paul moshay/mighty recording corp.
>p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078
>new reply to: [e-mail]
>soon:  http://www.mightyrecords.com

paul moshay/mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Daily URL Hurl
Date: 26 Jun 1998 10:42:23 -0500


FYI, I just found this tiki & fez flavored web review site.
-Lou


From his haunted banaoa cabaoa in the virtual tropics, "rAntman"
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spots, e-narratives, weird manifestations, and popculture artifacts.
Catch his daily update on the state of the Web and the sites that
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From: Jane Tunks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) April March
Date: 26 Jun 1998 15:14:46 -0400


Does anyone know any info on April March?

Anyone seen her play live?




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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) April March
Date: 26 Jun 1998 12:29:32 -0700 (PDT)


>Does anyone know any info on April March?
>
>Anyone seen her play live?
>
I haven't, but I like her recordings.  Actually when I was in Tokyo I
purchased her ep cd thinking that it might have been an actual rare 60's ya
ya recording.  To my surprise when I got back home to Silverlake, CA, the
record was recorded in the 90's and in Van Nuys!  Most of her early
recordings are Gainsbourg songs, and she also recently (last year) put out
a cd in Japan - that I believe is mostly French pop songs.  So she does
have a Japanese record contract.

If you look at the Alta Vista search website for Gainsbourg - her name
comes up on a website, and it is an interview with her.  Sorry I don't have
her actual address.  Oh,and she is also an animator.

-----------------
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TamTam Books
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist 6-21-98
Date: 26 Jun 1998 13:29:36 -0700


 KFJC play list 6/21/98 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                     TRACK                 ALBUM
______________________________________________________________________
 The Planets                 Chunky

 Stan Getz Qnt. With;        Night in Tunisia       1955
 Conte Candoli-Tpt
 Shelly Manne-Drums
 Leroy Vinnegar-Bass
 Lou Levy-Piano

 Elmer Bernstein             The Caretakers         Main Title OST,1963

 Pazant Brothers             Work Song              [coll]: Loose and
                                                    Juicy

 John Keating                Star Trek              E.M.S. Synthesizer
 Nelson Riddle               Mc Hales Navy March    Capitol
 Lord Sitar                  I Am the Walrus!       Capitol
 Ken Nordine                 A-L-P-H-A-B-E-T        1979

 Gabor Szabo With;           Are You There ???
 Calif Dreamers,
 Bill Plummer-Sitar

 Sol Kaplan                  Pussy Willow Girl      The Spy Who Came
                                                    In From the Cold

 101 Strings Orch.           Blues for the Guru     Alshire
 Nino Rota                   Mistero                Spara Forte...
 Bobby Christian             Space Suite            Strings for a
                                                    Space Age

 Kraftwerk                   Pocket Calculator      In Japanese
 A W B                       Cut the Cake
 Richard R. Bennett          Kaara                  Billion $ Brain, Theremin
 Melina Mercouri             Xmas Eve on Skid Row   Mancini Ost

 Bud Shank-Flute and                                Pacific Jazz, 1957
 Bob Cooper-Oboe             Blues for Delilah      Bob Cooper Comp.
 W/ Howard Roberts-Gtr

 Dudley Moore                Strip Club             Bedazzled!

 Kayton Roberts and                                 Dual Steel Guitars
 Roy Wiggins                 Love Theme

 Jack Fascinato              Golf Ala Cart          Palm Springs Suite
 Roy Clark                   Turkey in the Straw
 Tom Dissvelt                Mexican Mirror         Fantasy in Orbit
 Mark Bruton                 Suspicious Pt 2        Library Music

 Thomas, Peter               Curse of the Hidden    Futuremuzik
                             Vault

 Dizzy Gillespie Orch        Africana               Gillespiana
 Fifty Foot Hose             If not this Time       Cauldron, 1967

 Johnny Smith                Have You Met Miss      Roost
                             Jones ?

 Marlene Dietrich            Symphonie              10", 1ST Lp, 1949
 Larry Elgart Orch           Tempest in a Teacup    Decca, Early 50'S

 Frank Laloggia              Frankie at the         Lady in White OST
                             Cottage/
                             Mother and Daughter
                             Unite

 Davy Allen                  The Ghost Story        Devil's Angels OST
 Taxi Driver;                Diary of a Taxi Driver Taxi Driver
 Robert De Niro

 Babs Gonzales               The Preacher           Horace Silver

 Thompson, Hunter S.         Drug Cache             Fear and Loathing in
                                                    Las Vegas
                             The Hitchhiker
                             Acquiring Equipment

 Mel Brown                   Chunk-A-Funk           Clifford Soloman;
                                                    Tenor Sax

 Bruce Haack                 Word Game              Electric Lucifer

 Perrey, Jean
 Jacques/Chazam,D.           Cyberbugs Time Machine Eklectronics LP

 Nomi, Klaus                 Lightning Strikes
 Pete Rugolo Orch               Diamond On The Move

Jack Diamond's House of Games airs every Sunday
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Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 28
Date: 26 Jun 1998 20:46:07 -0400


"Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl.  Space Bop features
music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier!=20
Comments & questions welcome. =20

June 28 - Bongo Madness!

Dimitri From Paris:  Prologue  "Sacrebleu"
    =09
Dimitri From Paris:  Sacre Fran=E7ais  "Sacrebleu"
    =09
Jack "Bongo" Burger:  China Nights Mambo  "Music For The Jet Set"
    =09
Marisa:  Christine  "Ultra Chicks - Vol. 1"

The Rick Potts Band:  Platform Swim Fins  "Darker Skratcher"
    =09
Arthur Lyman:  Watermelon Man  "Sonic Sixties"
    =09
Martin Denny:  Jungle Madness  "Hypnotique"
    =09
Bongos, Bass and Bob:  Oral Hygiene  "Never Mind The Sex Pistols"
    =09
Tipsy:  Liquordelic  "Trip Tease"
    =09
Les Baxter/Billy May:  Cherry Pink And Apple Blossom White  "Bongoland"
    =09
The Revels:  Conga Twist  "Jungle Exotica Vol. 1"
    =09
The Bongos:  In The Congo  "Drums Along The Hudson"
    =09
Treble-Tones:  Safari  "Jungle Exotica Vol. 2"
    =09
Orchester Irwin Halletz:  Rio-Affaire  "Kriminal Magazin"    =09
    =09
Esquivel:  You Belong To My Heart  "Music From A Sparkling Planet"
    =09
Esquivel:  La Paloma  "Music From A Sparkling Planet"
    =09
The Sheiks:  Ha Ha Bi Bi  "Jungle Exotica Vol. 2"
    =09
Ferrante & Teicher:  Che Si Dice  "Cocktail Mix"
    =09
Martin Denny:  Caravan  "Exotica 3"


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Subject: (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it?
Date: 26 Jun 1998 23:53:21 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-25 09:46:34 EDT, you write:

<< There is nothing wrong with this in principle
 (indeed, bands like Divine Comedy and Tindersticks are vaguely relevant),
 but the problem is that it does this from a rather contrived 'Lounge fan'
 angle (eg. '"xxx" has done two albums which will appeal to the lounge
 fan').  However, as Lou says, it is worth a look. >>

Didnt the Dylan Jones Book do this also???  Why is it these lounge book
writers feel compelled to throw in New Wave bands as lounge acts???

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) April March
Date: 27 Jun 1998 00:25:30 EDT


April March is (probably was, by now) John Kricafalusi's girlfriend (he's the
creator of Ren & Stimpy).  They briefly pitched a cartoon based around her ye
ye girl character (John K's drawing of said character being the pic sleeve of
her "Kooky" single).  Since then she's also recorded with garage rockers The
Shitbirds.  There was an interview with her in the last issue of Girlyhead
(zine) which had a coool French theme (including an interview with the lead
singer of Frenchy, and a great career retro of Claudine Longet).  The next
issue of Girlyhead, btw, is reputedly a Cha Cha themed issue.

Gotta go now and finish my article on The Archies...

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From: "paul m." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Johnny Venture on "Rhoda"
Date: 26 Jun 1998 22:57:40 -0800


ever notice the first humorous 'lounge' depictation
on teevee?   johnny venture and his friend, nick lobo
the accordianist must date from '75.

the johnny venture character is maybe in about 6 episodes
max towards the end of the series, but is damn funny.

in one stellar episode, while performing in a small lounge
bar, he dedicates a number to rhoda (his date) with "i wanna
dedicate this number to a fine lady thats just getting to know
*me* ."

another line i recall is "i dont expect to hit the jackpot with my
first nickel", whilst trying to woo Rhoda.

if yer so inclined, Rhoda is now on both NAN and TV Land. Check
your local cable listings.

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Subject: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May
Date: 27 Jun 1998 12:13:59 EDT


Hello

while browsing new releases at the Footlight Records, I came across three by
the subject duo.

Who are they and what kind of recordings are these?  The titles such as "A
Little More Gauze", "Adultry" and "Disc Jockey" seemed kinda interesting.

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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lounge Hound doggy doo:Rant
Date: 27 Jun 1998 12:36:05 -0500


 After seeing the postings about the new MusicHound "Lounge" book I
thought I'd venture over to my local Borders to check it out.

I'm always suspicious about this sort of thing so my expectations were'nt
that great, even so I was still quite amazed as to how useless this book
was.

I spent only about ten minutes perusing it yet, it was enough time to
totally condemn this waste of pulp. Aside from the fact that I would only
classify about 10% of the entries as "lounge" I had some other greviences
as well.
First of all there were no entries for Ray Martin, Marty Gold and
Claudine Longet (I probably could have found more omissions if I spent
more time looking.)

Secondly, amid all the half-truths and mis-leading entries was the
overall impression that the recording artists mentioned never issued any
vinyl. I realize of course that the whole purpose is to sell CDs in order
to profit the present powers that be, but even so to totally marginalize
the musician's pre-CDs recorded output(i.e. vinyl) is to entirely miss
the point of this music. Not to mention that any budding lounge fan is
swayed into the dupe-dom of the current record industry by following the
prescribed tastes of "lounge Culture".
 Finally what put me over the edge was comparing the amount of space
dedicated to different artists. In the "D" section I looked up Martin
Denny and thought, ok, two columns thats not too bad. Then I flipped the
page and not only is there a listing for John Denver!? but, he gets more
space than Denny! Incredulous, I flipped another page and there's Neil
Diamond with an entry three columns long! I put the book back.

If you want an introduction to this music pick up the two volumes of
Incredibly Strange Music and Joseph Lanza's Elevator Music. Also, a good
general reference is the Penguin Encyclopedia of Popular Music.  On-line
there's always Brad Bigelow's SpaceAgePop Site, which is an excellent
short bio and discography source.
With these sources I've just mentioned there is absolutely no need
purcahse a copy of that LoungeHound garbage.

Of course any serious or budding lounge fan will have the perverse
curiosity to check out this pub., I just had to do the service of
providing a forewarning, it may infuriate.

And of course I got to rant.

Yours,
Frank




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Subject: (exotica) sorry - that's Mike NICHOLS
Date: 27 Jun 1998 12:42:27 EDT


left out the "H" in Nicols.

So this message is not a complete waste of your time, the not-to-long-ago
reissued COFFY has been followed up with:

James Brown - Black Caesar
James Brown - Slaughter's Big Rip-Off
Willie Hutch - Foxy Brown
Charles Earland - The Dynamite Brothers

so if you are into the blaxploitation thing, you should be happy.


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge Hound doggy doo:Rant
Date: 27 Jun 1998 13:03:17 -0400


At 12:36 PM -0500 6/27/98, recliner wrote:

>Secondly, amid all the half-truths and mis-leading entries was the
>overall impression that the recording artists mentioned never issued any
>vinyl. I realize of course that the whole purpose is to sell CDs

There's one of these Hound books about soundtracks as well, and it's a
complete waste of time (unless you actually like the overblown works of
people like Hans Zimmer). No vinyl listings means huge chunks of film music
history are entirely left out. It's the equivalent of a cocktail guide that
features  80's drinks like Sex On The Beach and WooWoo's. Hey wait a
minute, there is a book like that - - and it's called "Cocktail Nation"!
Hey, that's the term coined by my friend and colleague The
Millionaire........how come there's no mention of Combustible Edison in
that books "recommended listening" section?

Probably because a Combustible Edison listener wouldn't drink Sex On The
Beach or a WooWoo.

What a culture!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May
Date: 27 Jun 1998 10:05:16 +0000


At 12:13 PM 6/27/98 EDT, basic hip inquired:
>while browsing new releases at the Footlight Records, I came across three by
>the subject duo.  Who are they and what kind of recordings are these?  The
>titles such as "A Little More Gauze", "Adultry" and "Disc Jockey" seemed
>kinda interesting.

Mike Nichols and Elaine May have become heavilly involved in the film
industry since they did these recordings and did special sketches for NBC's
weekend radio program "Monitor."  These new releases are probably
re-releases of the albums they did for Mercury.

Their sketches are hilarious. "A Little More Gauze" is one of my favorites:
A doctor and a nurse are in the middle of an operation when they start
arguing about personal matters.

I understand they are all made up on the spot...but they are so well
crafted!  There are no special effects or audience on the one with "A
Little More Gauze."  I am eager to hear the Improvisations album where they
must speak over music.

Being especially concerned with SOUND, I very much like the recordings
because the duo was well miked.  There was never distortion, no off mike
effects, no echoes...just full bodied, perfectly resonant human voice.

The general content was that of satire of current trends and topics when
the recordings were made.  I would liken their performances to audio
equivalents of a Jules Pfeiffer cartoon.  Most of their sketches appear to
deal with how men and women communicate (or don't communicate!).

Mike Nichols and Elaine May Examine Doctors, Mercury MG 20680, SR 60680
is an outgrowth of their weekly appearances on Monitor.  It's unclear, but
it appears all of selections on this album were recorded from their live
performances on Monitor, then edited for the album (only to pull together
the scenes...not to remove bad content).

The cuts: A Little More Gauze; Interrupted Hour; The Von Brauns at Home;
Merry Christmas, Doctor; Morning Rounds; Transference; Calling Dr. Marx;
Thank You Very Much; Out of Africa; Bedside Manner; Physical; Nichols and
May at Work (this cut is unedited and shows how the duo puts together their
sketches). Lengths range from 1:05 to 4:45.

Improvisations to Music, Mercury MG 20376, SR 60040 sounds interesting and
worth getting: Cocktail Piano; Mysterioso; Second Piano Concerto;
Everybody's Doing It Now; Bach to Bach; Tango; Sonata for Piano and
Celeste; Chopin.

An Evening with Mike Nichols and Elaine May, Mercury OCS 6200, OCM 2200:
Telephone; Adultery; Disc Jockey; Mother and Son.

The Covers for "Doctors" and "Evening" are fun, "Improvisations" is boring.

Mike Nichols was in these movies: Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, The
Graduate, Catch 22, Carnal Knowledge, The Day of the Dolphin and The Fortune.
I think he spends his time now mostly as a writer, director or producer.
Elaine Mays has, as far as I know, never been in front of the lens, but has
done some excellent work as a writer, director and producer (however, only
in the most recent years).  Both got their start in cabaret and stage and I
believe they still are both involved there as well.  Alas, I think their
recording and radio broadcast career was short...but very satisfying.

I'd appreciate any other information on them.  As far as I know, they only
did the three albums I mentioned.  What is their most recent film work?
Anyone heard their Improvisations LP?

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it?
Date: 27 Jun 1998 15:54:37 EDT


Hi Michele...I think the lounge writers may be reflecting the same thoughts
you had a few months ago when you asked the digest members how many of them
"came" from a punk sensibility. The writers apparently believe that those of
us who like lounge music come from another level of appreciation to this level
called lounge...Since it is largely a white or faux ethnic sound to which we
listen, they perhaps assume that we "came" from punk and its mutant
offspring---"new wave". For me, once the Brit punks "killed" rock and roll,
that WAS the end of it and all that followed meant nothing to me, short of the
brief garage revival of the early 80's. I got into sweet soul from that point
on, and then noticed many of sweet soul and disco's elements within the lounge
sound, but that lounge coupled those elements with a touch of unintended
innocence and irony that is utterly charming in the present day. But none of
the writers have mentioned soul and disco as a possible springboard to lounge
appreciation......Maybe they didn't think of it, but more likely they were
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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 27 Jun 1998 16:08:58 -0400


Today's edition of The Globe and Mail, "Canada's National Newspaper"
had a long article on the swing revival and we've all, I assume, seen the
Research book on Swing by now.  I know this has alll been bubbling under
for some time, but it's curious where lounge is seen to fit in all this.
A lot of the people in the Swing book speak of a continuum that runs from
lindy-hop through lounge and rockabilly, but the Globe and Mail article
makes the claim that, while lounge was for yuppy scum, the swing revival
is genuinely proletarian.   In any case, what seems clear is that the swing
revival isn't much about seeking out obscure records and unusual sounds,
but about a revitalization of live music and bands.  And while the playing out
of lounge is fertilizing contemporary dance music and electronica in an
ongoing
way, the swing thing seems mostly about withdrawing from that whole
battlefield.

Of course, everyone interviewed in the swing book was a punk in 1979 or
1986 or
1991, just like most of us here, so we're all part of the great bohemian
(i.e., pretty
much middle class, pretty much well-educated) continuum.

Any other comments/observations/half-baked theories/rants?

Will
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From: "paul m." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it?
Date: 27 Jun 1998 13:32:38 -0800


>innocence and irony that is utterly charming in the present day. But none of
>the writers have mentioned soul and disco as a possible springboard to lounge
>appreciation......

early eighties analogies:
*animal nightlife
*modern romance
*abc

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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 27 Jun 1998 16:06:45


On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:08:58 -0400,
[e-mail] wrote...
>
>Today's edition of The Globe and Mail, "Canada's National Newspaper"
>had a long article on the swing revival and we've all, I assume, seen the
>Research book on Swing by now.

Whaaaaa? ReSearch has a book on Swing?? I guess I missed this...

If anyone feels like filling me in on this, please do so.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 27 Jun 1998 17:49:34 -0400


> Whaaaaa? ReSearch has a book on Swing?? I guess I missed this...
> If anyone feels like filling me in on this, please do so.
> -Indy Rutks ([e-mail])

Yes, a while back I received a publicity postcard from "V-Search" books (Vale &
Juno having split up), proclaiming Swing "the most significant cultural
movement since punk."

Which I thought was kind of pushing it -- not that I'm exhaustively plugged in
to everything going on there, but all I've heard from that area is
unreconstructed retro aping. Okay, maybe they add an 'original' angle by
playing faster or sloppier. If I'm missing the point, please do point it out.

This sounds crankier than I intended. I mean, it's swell that these folks are
re-employing horn sections, but it seems a little too straight-up retro to me
to be proclaimed as so significant.

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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) *More* Free Design?!
Date: 27 Jun 1998 22:49:52 +0000


1998 definitely seems to be "international year of the Free Design".
We've already had the compilation from Spanish label Siesta and next
month sees the release of Varese's compilation in the US.  But I
discovered just yesterday that Japanese label Trattoria, who have
already released *four* Free Design LPs on CD over the years have
just reissued two more, which means that all *six* of their Project 3
albums are now available on CD!!!

The two recent reissues which complete the collection are "Sing For
Very Important People" (childrens songs) and "Heaven Earth".  If
you're in or near the UK your cheapest option would seem to be Esprit
(htp://eil.com/) who have them for 15 UKP each though they're
currently out of stock.

You'll also have to form an orderly queue behind me and DJ Mingo-go!
;-)


Robbie

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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 27 Jun 1998 18:16:03 -0400


Reading the V-Search Swing volume, I had the sense that too
many of the live bands were only 2 or 3 degrees of separation
from the Blues Brothers, the way lots of bad live lounge bands
recall overly-theorized  dweeby New Wave art projects from the early
1980s.   Someone in the Swing volume makes the very important
point that Swing is not jump-blues, despite what so many people
think . . . and it's an important point, I think, because, while you can
like both (as I do),  there's a bit too much overlap between the
sensibility of
some jump blues revival bands and the kinds of things members of the
Rolling Stones sometimes get into as side projects.

Will
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May
Date: 27 Jun 1998 15:00:06 +0000


At 02:48 PM 6/27/98 EDT, Larry wrote:
>What roles did Nichols play in The Graduate, and Catch-22, and Viginia Woolf?

I was mistaken.  As far as I NOW know, he has only been a director. VW was
his first, then The Graduate, Catch 22, Carnal Knowledge, Day of the
Dolphin, The Fortune, Gilda Live, Silkwood, The Gin Game, Heartburn,
Working Girl, Biloxi Blues, Postcards from the Edge, Regarding Henry, Wolf,
The Birdcage, The Designated Mourner and Primary Colors.  Elaine Mays wrote
the screenplay for The Birdcage.

Byron

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From: [e-mail] (Kirsten Whitley)
Subject: (exotica) The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T
Date: 27 Jun 1998 17:54:49 -0500



Hi Everyone,

I know that _The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T_ was discussed on our list
in the recent past.  I forget what was said, though, since I didn't
know the movie at that point in time.  Now that I do, I'm trying
to recall what was said (has the soundtrack been released on CD?).

I looked in our archives, but did not find anything.  Given the
list of digests, I tried searching inividual digests.  Did I do
this right, or is there an easier way to search the entire set
of digests?

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re:Wanderly's Cheganca
Date: 27 Jun 1998 19:44:47 EDT


<<Does anyone out there have the Walter Wanderley album "Cheganca"?  If so,
I'd be forever grateful if you could post or e-mail me direct with the
songlist.  Also, does it list a year on it?  I think it's either 1966 or
1967.>>

It just so happens that I have it right here!

CHEGANCA
The Walter Wanderly Trio

Side I
1. Cheganca (The Great Arrival)
2. Amanha
3. Take Care, My Heart
4. Agua De Beber
5. Here's That Rainy Day
6. O Ganso
SideII
1. Mar Amar
2. Voce E Eu
3. O Menino Desce O Morro
4. Da-Me (Stay My Love)
5. Amor De Nada
6. A Man and a Woman (Un Homme et Une Femme)

I see no year anywhere.
But there IS this:
"Walter Wanderly has no worry.  He could play the Pasadena phone book and make
it sound great.  CHEGANCA, Walter's new albumfor Verve Records, is a complete
gas.  His charting is smooth and flawless. He weaves in and out of each tune
like a boxer throwing musical jabs."

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From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May
Date: 27 Jun 1998 18:31:08 -0700


>I would liken their performances to audio equivalents of a Jules Pfeiffer
cartoon.

Right on the money!  This brought to mind one of the funniest NY comedies of
the sixties, LITTLE MURDERS, based on a Feiffer play.  Rent it if you
haven't seen it!

Also, Elaine May directed MIKEY AND NICKY, starring John Cassavetes, Peter
Falk and Ned Beatty.  It's so gritty and improvisatory, you'd swear
Cassavetes directed it.

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A random observation
Date: 27 Jun 1998 22:17:08 -0400


Hey, I found this out the hard way, so:

If you are buying/building shelves for your record collection, don't forget
that those thick Stereo Action covers are actually *taller* than other
album jackets. (DOH!)

Ray Martin's _Dynamica_ is in the lead so far, at 12-11/16"
(322mm) tall. So remember to leave yourself a little extra height!

I picked up that LP and many more recently, at one of those weird
"perpetual yard sales" out under the trees of some guy's front yard. It
seemed a little odd that the records were all under tarps--but as I started
to go through them, I realized that I was being pelted by overripe
Mullberries, and worse yet, bird-droppings. Which is how _Dynamica_ ended
up with that big Gorbachev blotch on it. Sheesh, the things we put up with!
But I have to say this was one of my better hauls for a long time.

Someday if this heatwave ever lets up, I may have the energy to describe a
few of them. . .

Boing, Boing,

 --Ross

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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Mike Nicols and Elaine May
Date: 28 Jun 1998 02:03:34 EDT


YES to Little Murders---Vincent Gardenia has always been one of my favorite
Italian character actors and he shines brightly in this one..........a REAL
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Subject: Re: (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it?
Date: 28 Jun 1998 10:55:50 -0400


At 11:53 PM 26/06/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>Why is it these lounge book
>writers feel compelled to throw in New Wave bands as lounge acts???

Well I'm not going to defend this book which sounds horrid but I guess if I
fantasize the perfect book on lounge music that we could all love, I could
see that book having a section on modern bands that embody - or appear to
be influenced by - the lounge aesthetic.  Of course that would be the part
of the book where we'd have arguments.
Myself, I'd find it very cool to find the Tindersticks in that section.
Maybe it's a bit of a stretch, I don't know.  But it seems to me that I see
similar kinds of stretches going on all the time, even on this list.
For instance, (get your swords out), I love Bacharach and I can see a
strong connection to lounge music but I wouldn't call Bacharach "lounge".
Still, it seems his inclusion has become second nature.
Finally, I can understand people being disappointed with this book and
others but these books weren't written for us.  They seldom are.
If you're buying old vinyl records at the flea market, you're not really
participating in the economy, so you're pretty well a non-issue... which
some of us like being.
But you can't have it both ways.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 28 Jun 1998 10:55:52 -0400


At 04:08 PM 27/06/98 -0400, Will Straw wrote:
>
>Today's edition of The Globe and Mail, "Canada's National Newspaper"

Do I sense sarcasm there?

>A lot of the people in the Swing book speak of a continuum that runs from
>lindy-hop through lounge and rockabilly,

I thought everything was a continuum.  You mean it isn't?

>but the Globe and Mail article makes the claim that, while lounge was for
yuppy >scum, the swing revival is genuinely proletarian.

Well the Globe would know, wouldn't they?  They're tapped right into the
proletariate.
I guess my interpretation of this remark would be that since the swing
revival is for dancing, it must be a proletariate movement since, as we all
know know, the proletariate love to move their bodies... or shake their
booties, as the case may be.  And this is because their bodies are the only
part of their being, they're really connected with.
Whereas yuppie scum like myself (except I'm neither young nor professional)
are disconnected from our bodies and totally in our heads and that's why we
like the more sedate things like lounge music.
Also, we yuppie scum like to overanalyze and intellectualize everything and
for some reason, lounge lends itself to that.  We get to say things like
"exotica was a sanitized way in which to contact the OTHER".
Whereas for some reason, it's hard to intellectualize something when you're
dancing your ass off.
Oh and I almost forgot, the proletariate like to buy really fancy clothes
that they'll never get to wear again after the trend is over.
Or is that yuppie scum who like to do that?
Forget that point.


> And while the playing out of lounge is fertilizing contemporary dance
music and >electronica in an ongoing way, the swing thing seems mostly
about withdrawing >from that whole battlefield.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
I hope that's true because I'm going to be thinking that from now on.

>Of course, everyone interviewed in the swing book was a punk in 1979 or
>1986 or 1991, just like most of us here,

I wish I could say I was a punk in 1979 but though I did attend the
concerts and buy the records, I think the truth is that the last time I was
a punk was in grade four when I got the strap and back then the big punk
act was called Fabian.

>Any other comments/observations/half-baked theories/rants?

No.




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge Hound doggy doo:Rant
Date: 28 Jun 1998 11:24:34 EDT


If I can throw my 2 cents worth on the martin Denny entry...the first choice
in  "recommended" recordings according to the entry writer  is the 2 CD
Capitol set which by the way, the writer also praises for the insightful liner
notes!!

Well not only does the 2 CD set omit 13!!!!!! true Denny classics like "Jungle
Flower," "Love Dance," "The Queen Chant,"Escales,"March Of The Siamese
Children,"Bangcock Cockfight,"Baia," "Simba,"Aku Aku,"Martinique,""Jungle
River Boat," "Caravan,and "Congo Train" (all contained on the Rhino
compilation) in favor of lesser tracks and unreleased tracks, but the
"insightful" liner notes by RJ Smith have more errors than an early Mets game.
I own this CD courtesy of Martin Denny who sent it to me with all the
incorrect facts and disrespectful passages highlighted, and let me tell you it
looks as colorful as a freshman college textbook!


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Date: 28 Jun 1998 11:50:03 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-27 16:10:13 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Today's edition of The Globe and Mail, "Canada's National Newspaper"
 had a long article on the swing revival and we've all, I assume, seen the
 Research book on Swing by now.  I know this has alll been bubbling under
 for some time, but it's curious where lounge is seen to fit in all this.
 A lot of the people in the Swing book speak of a continuum that runs from
 lindy-hop through lounge and rockabilly, but the Globe and Mail article
 makes the claim that, while lounge was for yuppy scum, the swing revival
 is genuinely proletarian.   In any case, what seems clear is that the swing
 revival isn't much about seeking out obscure records and unusual sounds,
 but about a revitalization of live music and bands.  And while the playing
out
 of lounge is fertilizing contemporary dance music and electronica in an
 ongoing
 way, the swing thing seems mostly about withdrawing from that whole
 battlefield.

Swing seems to be mainly about reviving dances like the Lindy-Hop etc. and as
any fad built around a dance i.e. the macarena and the lambada, it is destined
for short life. Unlike the lounge "movement" or electronica (segments of which
are embracing influences and sounds in compositional styles and sampling), the
swing movement is fairly one dimensional in scope and style of music.

One of the main reasons for swings popularity is that there are and have been
for a long while bands across the country who for years have been doing covers
of Louis Jordan, Louis Prima or old r&b songs or orginals in that style. Let's
face it you  hire any wedding band and you have all the elements of a swing
band not to mention usually playing "In The Mood" or some such number to get
the parents dancing. (Remeber "The Curly Shuffle"?)

As any musician on list list can confirm, you don't need to be classically
trained to play this stuff. However when it comes to "lounge" or easy
listening, not only does the compositional and musically adept bar go up, but
as a great deal of this music was studio based (how many touring orchestras
can you name?) and there are very few groups who can succesfully perform this
kind of music in a live setting.

 What I don't quite understand in the current swing movement is the inclusion
of rockabilly. Rockabilly was firmly against the "parents" music of swing.
And, please correct me if I'm wrong, swing music did not include the "race"
music or early r&b which was thought of as too wild.

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Subject: (exotica) Cheganca/Elaine May
Date: 28 Jun 1998 10:16:30


Cheganca tracks:

Cheganca
Amanha
Take Care, My Heart
Agua de Beber
Here's That Rainy Day
O Ganso
Mar Amar
Voce e Eu
O Menino Desce O Morro
Da-Me
Amor De Nada
A Man and a Woman

Also Elaine May has appeared in front of and behind the lens--most notably
in "A New Leaf," in which she did both, in addition to writing the script.
She plays a klutzy millionairess married by the newly-poor Walter Matthau
in order to bump her off and resume the lifestyle to which he has become
accustomed.  I think it's showing on AMC sometime this week.  Not the
greatest comedy, but memorable for the scene where Matthau raoms the
streets in shock, muttering, "I'm poor!  I'm poor!"

Brad
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Subject: (exotica) Swingin' Kong and Burt
Date: 28 Jun 1998 14:05:37 -0400


> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
>
>  What I don't quite understand in the current swing movement is the inclusion
> of rockabilly. Rockabilly was firmly against the "parents" music of swing.
> And, please correct me if I'm wrong, swing music did not include the "race"
> music or early r&b which was thought of as too wild.

Yeah, I've noticed that the current Swing thing certainly doesn't seem to fit
the traditional definition of swing. Do they include Sha-Na-Na? If so, they
should be worshipped as living gods for doing greaser retro in the paisley
heart of the hippy movement (i.e. Woodstock). I know *I've* long admired them
for that move.

But for another kind of swing, I've just read that there's a new cd of Max
Steiner's score for the original "King Kong" (1933). Now *that's* some
proto-exotica. This is not the original recording, but a reconstruction of the
score by John W. Morgan, performed by the Moscow Symphony Orchestra. The review
(in Filmfax magazine) is very positive -- of course, you never know. I'm pretty
intrigued. 72 minutes, 36 page booklet. Released on Marco Polo (8.223763).

The Burt Bacharach site has some news on the Rhino set here (among other
items):
http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~mark/bacharach/bacharach_news.html
It seems that it is still on track, just secured the last of the licensing and
may be out around August to October. You can also link to upcoming tour dates
there.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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Subject: (exotica) e-pulse on MusicHound Lounge
Date: 27 Jun 1998 20:32:32 -0400 (EDT)



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LOUNGE: THE ESSENTIAL ALBUM GUIDE TO MARTINI MUSIC AND EASY LISTENING'
(Visible Ink Press, out now). Alongside Denny in this 650-entry
compendium, you'll find fellow exotica heroes (Esquivel, Arthur Lyman,
Korla Pandit), latter-day revivalists (Combustible Edison, Cherry Poppin'
Daddies), crooners (from Billy Eckstine to Bryan Ferry), pioneering
legends (Slim Gaillard, Sam Butera, Louis Jordan), and a number of
unexpected artists who are strangely appropriate (Nick Cave, Erykah Badu,
David Lee Roth). As with any such encyclopedia, it's easy to nitpick:
Bette Midler and Christopher Cross are included, but not Kid Creole or the
Pointer Sisters. Sure, the press materials refer to the book as an album
guide to "middle-class white people's root music," but if that's the
criterion, where's John Davidson? Anyway, you get the idea. With its
arsenal of 60 critics, MusicHound tends to provide more critical
perspective than many such tomes, complementing the entries with
recommendations on what to buy and, perhaps more important for this genre,
what to avoid. The book also includes a 24-cut 'Ultra-Lounge' compilation
CD (though the copy that arrived here was packaged in such a way that
gummy, gluey stuff was stuck to the rim of the disc). Suddenly timely due
to the passing of Frank Sinatra, not to mention the resurgence of swing,
'MusicHound Lounge' is well worth consulting before that next trip to the
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From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 28 Jun 1998 16:29:58 -0700


Nat sez:

>I guess my interpretation of this remark would be that since the swing
>revival is for dancing, it must be a proletariate movement since, as we all
>know know, the proletariate love to move their bodies... or shake their
>booties, as the case may be.  And this is because their bodies are the only
>part of their being, they're really connected with.
>Whereas yuppie scum like myself (except I'm neither young nor professional)
>are disconnected from our bodies and totally in our heads and that's why we
>like the more sedate things like lounge music.
>Also, we yuppie scum like to overanalyze and intellectualize everything and
>for some reason, lounge lends itself to that.  We get to say things like
>"exotica was a sanitized way in which to contact the OTHER".

My feeling is that yuppie scum buy into trends to ACQUIRE hipness, as
opposed to just digging the stuff.  Though they don't realize it, yuppie
scum identify themselves in terms of what they consume.  I've witnessed an
influx of computer/advertizing vermin trying to buy a lifestyle when they
move into their San Francisco lofts.  Whereas the original SF underground of
the 70s and 80s has long since been priced out of town.

Whether or not they can shake dey booties I couldn't tell you, though they
certainly have the money for clubs and drugs.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 28 Jun 1998 20:31:34 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-28 16:52:14 EDT, Dlsmay writes:

<< Think back to any visual you have of Bill Haley and his Comets.  Does that
instrumentation look like the Stray Cats?  Nope, there's a steel guitar and an
accordion in that group.  Why?  Because Bill's boys were really a small-combo
Western Swing group.  And they pulled just as hard off the Jump Blues teat as
they did off of honky tonk (lots of Louis Jordan and Count Basie riffs and
covers).


**It is very well known that rockabilly was a cross-fertization betrween
country and r&b elements.


As the rockabilly scene has evolved to include more pre-rockabilly sounds
(notably Big Sandy & the Fly Rite Boys, which aim for the pyrotechnic
interplay of guitar and steel associated with Jimmy Bryant and Speed West),
they've come to include the sounds of all post-war dance musics:early R&B,
jump blues, western swing, swinging lounge novelties etc.

**Please don't talk about the evoltion of rockabilly using Big Sandy! All Big
Sandy and the current crop of rockabilly acts are either revialists or groups
who take rockabily as a steping stone to experiment and add other genre
influences, they are by no means part of an uninterrupted rockabilly movement.
Remember rockabilly was displaced/buried by things like Merseybeat, hard rock,
metal etc.

This "Swing movement" doesn't explain anything really, there have always been
genre crossing covers. I mean you have country artist Junior Brown doing
things like "Pipeline" or "Secret Agwnt man" in his set yet he is not swing,
but country, plain and simple.


Also, there's a natural cultural crossover between the rockabilly enthusiasts
snapping up vintage wear (including house furnishings) and the swing scene's
dedication to old duds (on Haight St. alone, I've watched all of the staff at
the used clothings stores convert from art students to swing kids in the last
two years).  Throw in the commonality of swing dancing in both musics and
you've got fertile crossover. >>

***The purchasing of vintage clothing was done prior to swing, prior to
"lounge" and probably even prior to punk, so wearing old clothes doesn't make
swing that much special either with respect to cross-fertilization.

So, somebody pleeease tell me what is so special about Swing! All I can see is
that it is the bandwagon for a lot of mediocre groups doing poor cover
versions of old r&b and WW2 numbers and unfortunately dragging the fine art of
rockabilly with them!
By the way, if you walked into a Gene vincent show wearing a zoot suit I
imagine you'd either get the shit beaten out of you or you'd be laughed out.

Let's face it folks this movement is primarily about dancing and dressing up,
It is not innovative but merely reactive and imitaive of far better music that
has gone before it, hence it will be very short-lived.  Bets anyone?

(At least "lounge" stuff is finding a happy home in electronic music and being
used to dreate something new and innovative)



Ashley


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From: "paul m." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 28 Jun 1998 17:44:10 -0800


>Let's face it folks this movement is primarily about dancing and dressing up,
>It is not innovative but merely reactive and imitaive of far better music that
>has gone before it, hence it will be very short-lived.  Bets anyone?

short lived?  i doubt it.  from a more pyscho-social view point, young
women enjoy dancing generally.  wherever young women are guys are
sure to follow.  sexist, maybe.  reality, most likely.

paul moshay/mighty recording corp.
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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 28 Jun 1998 21:05:50 -0400


I'm fascinated with this Swing discussion, and the postings by David and
Ashley
were absolutely fabulous, I thought, and full of insight.   And M.Ace's
comments
about what Sha Na Na meant in the midst of  Woodstock should be on a T-shirt.
I spend lots of time thinking this is the smartest bunch of people on the
internet.

Surely though, folks, we're not going to dismiss the swing revival as
"primarily about
dancing and dressing up," though, when we've all muttered about magazine
coverage of lounge which made the same claims.    There's not going to be
the same
kind of discography-mongering and reissue-lobbying in the swing revival as
there is
around lounge -- mostly because jazz fans did most of this work years ago,
partly because, as Paul suggests, the swing revival is attracting lots more
people who
dance but don't collect records obsessively (i.e., more females).

Will
Will Straw
Associate Professor and Director,
Graduate Program in Communications, McGill University
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Compilation requests for other labels
Date: 28 Jun 1998 18:19:08 +0000


I would like to hear what you think!

We all know that Capitol has brought together all the cool releases from
Liberty, Capitol and whatever other labels it now has control over.

RCA, did a limited version of the same (only three, doggone it!).

What about other labels?  Barring a miracle or some intense pressure from
the likes of us, I doubt this will happen.  Still, I'd like to know:

What artists or performances would put on a label-exclusive compilation
from...

United Artists,
MGM (although I guess there is some already from them...),
Columbia,
Warner Brothers,
Time,
Command,
ABC-Paramount,
you-name-it.

I know for UA I would argue for Terry Snyder, Al Caiola and Don Costa.
Columbia: Belmonte, Ferrante & Teicher, Andre Popp.
Warner Brothers: Warren Barker, Mel Hanke, Buddy Cole.
Time: Al Caiola, Hugo Montenegro, Hal Mooney.
Command/Grand Award: Terry Snyder, Dick Hyman, Charles Magnante
ABC-Paramount: Ferrante & Teicher.
GNP-Crescendo: Buddy Merrill.

This is a complete off the top of my head list...there are obviously others
to add.  Also, I don't advocate EVERYTHING by the particular artist...only
the coolest cuts.  AND, I am certainly leaving out some labels.

So, what would you want?

Byron

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Esquivel two-fers
Date: 28 Jun 1998 18:19:02 +0000


An unusual opportunity presented itself...the ability to patronize one of
my favorite internet stores, get a discount and buy three of the Esquivel
two-fers...all at the same time.  I am glad I did.

While the liner notes said there were more than the three CD's I got
(representing *SIX* Esquivel albums), as far as I can determine, Bar/None
has not done any others yet.  As far as I am concerned, all of the Esquivel
albums should be released in the same manner.

Yes, I do have all three Esquivel compilations (two from Bar/None and one
from RCA) and yes, I now have some cuts repeated on three different CD's.

However, there is nothing like getting all the music from the same LP heard
together.  This is *THE* way to hear the music.  Now I can understand the
relationships between recordings.  It is much more interesting than what I
got out of the compilations.

And, I believe that even if I bought at full price, these two-fers would
have been a great bargain.  I like my CDs "full platter" and this is what I
get!  The packaging, while not extravagant, is stylistically consistant and
fun.

Above all, these CDs only re-emphasize for me something I have known for a
long time (but occasionally need to be reminded of): Esquivel is the king!
There has never been anyone who has been so original and on top
consistantly with his arrangements.  He developed his own musical
vocabulary that works and no one else could quite duplicate or even
emulate.  And he used it again and again...without ever sounding tired or
repetitious.  zoo zoo zoo.

I still don't know how he did it.... but he did.

I hope he knows how much people like me appreciate what he has done.  Thank
goodness for Esquivel...and for his champions which have revealed his music
to new generations.

Byron

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Subject: (exotica) Records and no records
Date: 28 Jun 1998 18:19:27 +0000


My weekly trip to the Goodwill as-is store today netted a large
Platter-Pak...for storing and filing 75 45 records.  I found a number of
mostly non-exotica singles but among them was an Edmundo Ros, Bobby Darin's
Mack the Knife and several cha cha records.

I started at the wrong bins, though.  This guy who started on the other
side found a nice looking copy of Afrodesia and bunch of others  *I* would
have liked to snag first.  Oh well.

I did find a radio compilation LP from Warner Brothers (july 1959, #111:
Dancer's Choice) with selections from Stereo Goes Latin by the Bobby Havana
Boys. Actually, the polka selections and those from the Don Ralke Band were
also fun.

The Latin World of Tito Puente  Tico LP 1109 is great! This is my second LP
on the Tico label, but the first with an intact cover.  Well-recorded. Did
you know Tito has two identical brothers?  All three are on the
cover...each doing the exact same gesture!  Believe it or don't!

Exactly Timed Shortakes Buddy Cole  Warner Brother PRO 109-110.  This did
not come with cardboard cover.  Maybe it didn't come with one?  Anyway this
was WB's attempt to give radio stations some free fill music and, of
course, get free promotion in return.  All of the tantalizing morsels are
about one minute each and are merely fade-ins from the full length versions
on these albums (which would appear to be all worth getting): Have Organ,
Will Swing (W 1211); Hot and Cole (W 1252); Powerhouse! (W 1310) and Swing
Fever (W 1373).

Let's Dance the Bossa Nova  Enoch Light Command RS 851 SD.  Obviously, a
fun record...even more so with the "special instruction sheet
enclosed...showing how to dance the bossa nova."  Now, all I need is a
partner.

International Percussion  Berlingeri and His Percussive Harpsichord with
His Orchestra  Grand Prix K-170.  I was prepared for terrible stuff.
Imagine my surprise when I heard wonderful arrangements for EVERY cut.  Who
is this Berlingeri?  Anyone run into this record or others by this creative
man?  No Esquivel, but definitely headed in the same direction.
Unfortunately, no cardboard cover.

I also found two empty covers which I want to find the records for:

Spectacular Percussion Goes Latin  Roger King Mozian  MGM  E 3921. I have
another Mozian LP which was less than stellar, yet gave me the impression
that Mozian had a fun streak in him.  Maybe it's revealed in this LP...but
I don't know now.  Among the cuts on the missing record: Mambo Percusso,
Changa Hop, Oriental Cha Cha and Cumana.  A colorful cover with the
obligatory colored circles (ala the Percussion series on Command) and a
large black ink drawing of a set of drums.

Music of Desire  The Exotic Rhythms of Warren Barker and his orchestra  WB
1364 (released in 1960).  Looks interesting!  Warren Barker did a lot of
the soundtrack work for WB TV productions (I believe 77 Sunset Strip and
Hawaiian Eye at the least) and perhaps movies as well.  Neat cover (well,
to me, anyway).  It features a very close-up view of part of a woman's
face, but limited to only a pair of very red lips, a black mole, a
perfectly shaped eyebrow and a very made up eye... framed by some brown
hair , the bottom tip of her ear and a large gold earring.  Either she has
very white skin or the photo editor did something to make it white.  Tommy
Mitchell (the photographer) also removed the nose, providing a very surreal
approach to a woman's close-up.  But, is the MUSIC any good?

I bought a whole bunch of other records, but they probably won't be worth
commenting on.

Byron


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 28 Jun 1998 16:52:14 EDT


>>>>What I don't quite understand in the current swing movement is the
inclusion
of rockabilly. Rockabilly was firmly against the "parents" music of swing.
And, please correct me if I'm wrong, swing music did not include the "race"
music or early r&b which was thought of as too wild.

Ashley>>>

Think back to any visual you have of Bill Haley and his Comets.  Does that
instrumentation look like the Stray Cats?  Nope, there's a steel guitar and an
accordion in that group.  Why?  Because Bill's boys were really a small-combo
Western Swing group.  And they pulled just as hard off the Jump Blues teat as
they did off of honky tonk (lots of Louis Jordan and Count Basie riffs and
covers).  As the rockabilly scene has evolved to include more pre-rockabilly
sounds (notably Big Sandy & the Fly Rite Boys, which aim for the pyrotechnic
interplay of guitar and steel associated with Jimmy Bryant and Speed West),
they've come to include the sounds of all post-war dance musics:early R&B,
jump blues, western swing, swinging lounge novelties etc.  Also, there's a
natural cultural crossover between the rockabilly enthusiasts snapping up
vintage wear (including house furnishings) and the swing scene's dedication to
old duds (on Haight St. alone, I've watched all of the staff at the used
clothings stores convert from art students to swing kids in the last two
years).  Throw in the commonality of swing dancing in both musics and you've
got fertile crossover.

--David


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel two-fers
Date: 28 Jun 1998 23:32:40 EDT


In a message dated 6/28/98 10:19:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> I like my CDs "full platter"

I totally agree on this point. Enough of all these endless *lounge* comps ---
give me the full catalogs of these great artists like Esquivel.

That's what we should be rallying to have released !!!

Larry


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Records and no records
Date: 29 Jun 1998 01:38:59 -0400


At 06:19 PM 28/06/98 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
>Music of Desire  The Exotic Rhythms of Warren Barker and his orchestra  WB
>1364 (released in 1960).  Looks interesting!   Neat cover (well,
>to me, anyway). But, is the MUSIC any good?

You found one with just a cover.  I found one with a really beat up cover
and a pretty beat record inside... but playable.
It's definitely what it says it is.  It's got that unmistakeable exotic
beat and I'd say it sounds a lot like a Les Baxter record.. though not one
of his better ones.
It reminds me a lot of this Michel Legrand record called "Strings on Fire".
Very heavy ringing string flourishes and I like that.
It's pretty good.  No bird calls or really heavy percussion but a nice,
steady bongo beat and a defnite exotic feel.

But I think that it's not a coincidence when it seems that a particular
record is often - like here, meaning twice - found beat up or missing a
piece.  There's something about the record and the people who bought it.
Just like all the Mancini records I've found that are almost unplayable.
And the very few that I've found in great shape.

Nat




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Subject: (exotica) What's the difference?
Date: 29 Jun 1998 02:24:33 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-28 11:53:12 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< What I don't quite understand in the current swing movement is the
inclusion
 of rockabilly. Rockabilly was firmly against the "parents" music of swing.
 And, please correct me if I'm wrong, swing music did not include the "race"
 music or early r&b which was thought of as too wild.  >>

Okay, I know I'm going to look like a total idiot for asking this, (and I know
Ashley and I have talked about about this earlier off-list) but what IS the
diff. between rockabilly and swing?  I mean when I think of swing I would
think of Glen Miller, but here in L.A. in the present tense it seems to me
that rockabilly and swing are one and the same just about since it is these
rockabilly bands that play at the clubs and then people (50s scenesters
rockabilly fans) get up and swing dance to it.  I'm just totally lost....

- Michele


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Subject: Re: (exotica) What does new wave have to do with it?
Date: 29 Jun 1998 02:24:30 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-27 15:54:37 EDT, DJJimmyBee writes:

<< The writers apparently believe that those of us who like lounge music come
from another level of appreciation to this level called lounge...Since it is
largely a white or faux ethnic sound to which we listen, they perhaps assume
that we "came" from punk and its mutant offspring---"new wave". >>

That may be true, but those new wave bands have nothing to do with lounge, I
mean they might as well have put gangsta rap in the book too.

- Michele


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From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: radio showbiz
Date: 29 Jun 1998 03:01:05


On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:51:58 -0400 (EDT), buMp
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>hello everybody,
>this is a posting to all the folks out there in exotica who are doing
radio shows.  i have been approached by an AM station here in Baltimore
to pitch them a show of ADULT MUSIC!

That sounds great! I suggest you put together a pilot tape featuring songs
by Blowfly, Doug Clark, and other fine artists of the "adult music" genre.
I think the station manager would be impressed!

Wish someone would start a show like that here!



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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Overflowing reissues
Date: 29 Jun 1998 10:59:12 +0100






Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
06/29/98 05:59 AM


cc:


Every week that goes by, my wants list gets longer and longer. But there is
no need for me to get upset by this because I have learned to be patient
and just relax - soon everything I ever want will eventually be reissued.
Even the most unlikely records will be regurgitated by the Postmodern
Culture Reinventing Device.

This weekend I've seen and purchased (all LPs):

101 Strings - Astro sounds from the year 2000 (Why the hell has this been
rereleased?)
James Brown - Black Ceasar (Superb and expensive Blaxploitation soundtrack)
Art Mineo - Man in space with sounds (Obsure or what?)
Barbarella OST (Reissue or bootleg, take your pick)

I'm now off to William Hill (Bookmakers) to place my bets on the following
coming out on LP by the end of '98:

The Hanged Man
Italian Job
Get Carter
Bedazzled
Bill Plummer's Journey to the East
Hugo Montenegro's Moog Power
Some Les Baxter gems (including his soundtracks)
Anandar Shankar
Age of Electronicus
The Trip

lets wait and see.





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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mike Nichols and Elaine May
Date: 29 Jun 1998 08:08:00 -0400


Mike Nichols and Elaine May's most recent collaboration was "Primary
Colors"; he directed, she adapted.  This was the same combination used for
"The Birdcage".  I believe they started collaborating during their days at
the Compass Players/Second City in Chicago.  PBS showed a great documentary,
with vintage footage of them a few months back.  They showed a wonderful
sketch they did at the Emmys, in which May was the presenter and Nichols was
a sycophant of a producer.   He "wins", gives May a lustful kiss and tells
how he won for best mediocrity.  Among the reasons, there was, "Any
suggestions from the sponsors, I took!"  They were not allowed to perform at
next year's ceremony, I believe.   While it seems tame to-day, that was
rather close to the bone then.  Let's not forget, many TV stations were so
fidgety about criticism to their medium around this time, many stations
censored a diatribe against radio and TV in "A Letter To Three Wives" (Kirk
Douglas made the speech) when it was shown on TV.

Any of their material is worth owning and I suppose of particular interest
is their album "Improvisations to Music" in which they do just that; they
improvise dialogue over various music playing in the background.  Absolutely
among the top rank in comedy in the 60's and still pretty funny now.  If you
would like to read a great book about improvisation, read "Something
Wonderful Right Away", which I think has a chapter or two about them.

Gossip section:  Mike Nichols is married to journalist Diane Sawyer.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 29 Jun 1998 08:09:36 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-28 20:42:37 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< >Let's face it folks this movement is primarily about dancing and dressing
up,
 >It is not innovative but merely reactive and imitaive of far better music
that
 >has gone before it, hence it will be very short-lived.  Bets anyone?

 short lived?  i doubt it.  from a more pyscho-social view point, young
 women enjoy dancing generally.  wherever young women are guys are
 sure to follow.  sexist, maybe.  reality, most likely. >>

Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or
hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or so.

Ashley


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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Cheganca/Elaine May
Date: 29 Jun 1998 08:50:41 -0400


> Also Elaine May has appeared in front of and behind the lens--most notably


And you can SKIP "California Suite", in which she is completely wasted.  And
that goes for Bill Cosby's and Richard Pryor's roles, too!  Simon (who has
written things I enjoy) reduced them to slapstick buffoonery.  They are both
suited to handle that kind of comedy, but this movie was full of many missed
opportunities like this.

Brian "Picky about comedy to-day" Phillips




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From: "paul m." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 29 Jun 1998 05:56:26 -0800


>Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or
>hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or so.

quite different phenomenon.  first two you mentioned were instantly industry
created gimmicks...while the swing thing has been gaining steam 'organically'
and incrementally for years to be accurate.

as tosh once informed me, in the late 6T' Sears & Roebuck for one season had
a slogan to the effect of "...there's a revolution going on at Sears".   point?
underground trends which develop of there own accord eventually are co-opted
by the mainstream.   swing is barely near that point yet.  much more left
in it.
also one must remember that there were swing clubs for the WWII generation
that had been going quietly, almost since the swing generation 'started'.

on the sinatra list, which is mainly populated by 35-60 yr old males there was
significant out pouring of interest in BBVD recently.  dont get me wrong,
personally
i'm hardly ga-ga over swing, but it has *alot* going for it in term of popular
appeal...and alot more 'upward' life in it as a trend before it levels off
or gets
co-opted in a way that will turn off the underground.


paul moshay/mighty recording corp.
p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078
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From: Michael Hibarger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Swing to the right...
Date: 29 Jun 1998 10:43:28 -0400


The reactionary thing to react to swing is to think of it as a trendy
thing.  But as one who has learned some East Coast Swing and is
now learning the Lindy...it is not something you can easily learn
in one 45 minute lesson.  Especially Lindy...therefore it should not
be lumped in with dances like the Macarena or simple line dancing
or whatever...  Folks that are into swing dancing have to make a
considerable investment in time learning how to do it and therefore
will be less likely to spend the months learning how to swing dance
to only end up dancing for a couple of months.

It is trendy in the sense of the media, the Gap ad has been a big
curse...its brought a lot of fly-by-night individuals who think that
they want to dance like that after a couple of lessons...after they
realize that it is more difficult they give up.

As for the music, the music is classic and the fact that there are some
good bands performing old standards live is helping to fuel the scene.
And they're bringing elements from rock and rock-a-billy into the
swing...bands like Big Bad Voodoo Daddy and Brian Setzer Orchestra
are the flagships for helping to build the scene...in a similar way that

Combustible Edison and Friends of Dean Martinez have helped build
up interest in exotica.  If there were some more bands doing exotica
it would help further it even more.

Unfortunately, the dancing and the fashion does attract some of
phoneys, but that's the same with every scene.  Early punk rock
attracted
many phoneys who were just there for the attitude...maybe later they
finally got the music.

I think the interesting thing about swing right now is that it is still
underground...there are a lot of swing events where only a 100 people
show up to a small church ballroom and there's a full 15 piece band.
There's a small network of people who are keeping it alive.

I think the appeal of swing is also in accordance with the same appeal
of exotica and even electronica.  After, "real" punk rock and "real"
grunge
rock, we (the listening audience) is sick of venting venom, anger,
nihilism...we're turning away from emotional music and we're looking
for good-times music...and we're a little sick of rock too.  So we don't

want our good times music in the form of AC/DC, or Guns and Roses,
we're looking back to Sinatra and ahead to Oval, DJ Shadow, etc.

My two and half cents...
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues
Date: 29 Jun 1998 12:00:21 -0400


At 10:59 AM 29/06/98 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote:
> soon everything I ever want will eventually be reissued.
>Even the most unlikely records will be regurgitated by the Postmodern
>Culture Reinventing Device.

>I'm now off to William Hill (Bookmakers) to place my bets on the following
>coming out on LP by the end of '98:

>Bill Plummer's Journey to the East
>Hugo Montenegro's Moog Power
>The Trip

I know it's both selfish and illogical of me but I'm hoping those three, at
least, DON'T get reissued because that would totally ruin my dreams and
anticipation of someday finding the original LP's.
Especially the Bill Plummer.
And "The Party" soundtrack, while we're on the subject of Bill Plummer.
And don't you think the moment to rerelease any Moog album is sort of over?

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Mike Nicols and Elaine May
Date: 29 Jun 1998 14:45:49 +0200


>From: <[e-mail]>

"Improvisations to music" (cd, Mercury, USA, 1998) is the one to get...
well... that's the only one i have on lp ;-) it's incredible that these
sketches are improvised! the piano sets a background mood, and then these 2
start; my favorite track is a spy meeting; there's also a cocktail lounge
track where a boss tries to seduce one of the office girls by asking if she
wants to go home with him to listen to his new hi-fi set :)

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Subject: (exotica) FWD> Re: Yma Rocks!
Date: 28 Jun 1998 19:48:48 +0200


>From: Don Pierson

>... "Yma Rocks!" ... is a ShamLys
>Production, done by two of the original producers, not the Yma Sumac
>Homepage. I am just selling it. Also, it is not equal to the other album
>that your listing indicates ["Miracles" - JDV] since it is a slightly
>>different mix, uses
>different cover art, has different liner notes and has additional
>tracks. It is necessary to be clear on that because of the fiasco when
>the other LP was issued.
>
>Don
>
>--
>Contact and Webpages:
>
>Don Pierson
>e-mail: [e-mail]
>
>Official Authorized Yma Sumac Homepage
>ALL NEW!
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Subject: (exotica) Annotated, extended Playlist Fantastica # 56
Date: 29 Jun 1998 14:57:49 +0200


Fantastica runs on:
* Radio Scorpio, FM 106, Leuven, Belgium, each Saturday 15-16 h.
* Radio Centraal, FM 103.9, Antwerpen, Belgium,
  at irregular times in their "Night Machine".


              Fantastica # 56: "Alice in wondEroticland"


 1. LEITMOTIV 1: Alice: "dialogue from: Alice in Wonderland"
       o album "Alice in Wonderland/Peter Pan"
       o LP, Disneyland WD-103, USA, 1959 | not rated
       o info: It says "Music from the original motion picture score" and
         "songs from original sound track", but uncle Walt didn't mind
         fooling the little kids, did he? This is a story album, with NONE
         of the original dialogue, voices or songs.
 2. Racquel Welch: "I'm ready to groove"
       o compil. "Hollywood Hi-Fi" (18 of the most outrageous celebrity
         recordings ever!)
       o CD, Brunswick 38170 81013 2, USA, 1996 | +++++
       o info: the sub-title is true!
 3. LEITMOTIV 2: sound effects: "Erotic Sound Effects"
       o album "Erotic Sound Effects"
       o CD, Time/Eclipse 64651, USA, 1997 | +++
       o info: 90 selections, ranging from silly answering machine messages
         and Mae West imitations to multiple orgasms. Looks like the
         perfect item for multi-disc players with random shuffle, or to
         drop into homemade tape compilations
 4. Ray Brown: "Coming and going"
       o compil. "The Mood Mosaic 3: The Sexploitation"
       o CD & Double LP, YellowStone 9561, Italy, 1997 | ++++
       o info: Mostly funk, or funky heavy big band jazz. 5 funk tracks
         have a moaning woman all over, like in the well-known "Amame"
         (love me) by Claudia Vita, here in an Italian version, but the
         very same track also exists in English by (French combo) Super
         Erotica. Also featuring Ray Brown, Roland Vincent, Ingo Kantor, De
         Giaferri, Clay Pitts. The second best volume in this series I have
         heard!
 5. Peggy Lee: "I enjoy being a girl"
       o album "Latin ala Lee!/Ole ala Lee!"
       o CD, EMI 8 56056, UK, 1997 | +++
       o info: If you like Peggy, and you like vocal Latin music, then this
         is something for you.
 6. Spike Jones And The Band That Plays For Fun: "The late late movies-
    part 1 (edit)"
       o album "Omnibust"
       o LP, Liberty LRP 3370 | ++++
       o info: This LP is especially interesting for its crime jazz/beatnik
         parody ("Ah-1, ah-2, ah-Sunset Strip") and a "Quiet Village"
         parody ("I search for golden adventure in my seven leaky boots").
         Completely different from his previous LP's with the City
         Slickers, as it's not just music, it's more like a musical comedy
         album, funny stories with lots of background music and zounds.
 7. Xaviera Hollander: "Phone call"
       o album "Happily Hooked"
       o LP, Turning Point 30009 | ++
       o info: Sex stories with musical background
 8. April Stevens: "That's my name"
       o album "Teach me tiger" (+ 18 Nino Tempo tracks)
       o CD, Marginal MAR 086, Belgium, 1996 | ++
       o info: Classic sultry babe album, featuring "Teach me tiger"; none
         of the other tracks are as good, several of them are rather
         mediocre, and the 18 additional tracks from/with her brother
         saxophonist/singer Nino Tempo are completely forgettable. With:
         "Do It Again", "Get Ideas", "That's my name"...
 9. V/a - Disney soundtracks: "I'm late/How d'ye do and shake hands (from
    "Alice in Wonderland")"
       o compil. "Walt Disney's original soundtrack parade"
       o LP, Disneyland/Pickwick PDA 030, UK | ++++
       o info: At least, these ARE songs from the original film soundtrack.
10. Brigitte Bardot: "Harley Davidson"
       o album "Le disque d'or"
       o LP, Disc'AZ 2 356, France, 1981 | ++++
       o info: All '67 and '68 songs, 8 written by Gainsbourg.
11. Yma Sumac: "Xtabay (lure of the unknown love)"
       o album "Voice of the Xtabay"
       o LP, Regal/EMI, UK, 1956 | ++++
12. Barbara Streisand: "I got rhythm/One note samba"
       o album "Barbra Steisand ...and other musical instruments"
       o LP, CBS stereo 69 52, UK/USA, 1973 | +++
       o info: After reading the long list of exotic, strange and
         electronic instruments and kitchen appliances (!) on the back
         cover, one can only conclude that the result is rather
         conservative... well, I guess we shouldn't expect too much from
         Barbra, and be happy that this odd LP happened, but it could have
         been a LOT weirder! "I got rhythm" and "One note samba" combine
         Turkish, American Indian, African, East Indian (sitar!), Spanish,
         Irish (bagpipes!) and Japanese instruments and harmonics.
13. Synaulia: "Ludi inter Pana atque nymphas"
       o album "Music from ancient Rome - volume 1: Wind instruments"
       o CD, Amiata ARNR 1396, Italy, 1996 | +++++
       o info: musical archeology like Elizabeth Waldo, exotic, primitive,
         enchanting, percussion, wind instruments, women screaming in
         extacy, wordless vocals... wooow, those Romans were cool!
14. Elisabeth Waldo: "The serpent"
       o album "Rites of the pagan"
       o LP, GNP/Crescendo GNPS 601, USA 198? | ++++
       o Review: "http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/critiq/A/Waldo.htm"
15. Italian session feat. Edda Dell'Orso: "Confine d'amore (Bossa nova)"
       o Soundtrack "Not Found" (Cityboys Original soundtrack)
       o CD, Polystar/Trattoria menu. 137 PSCR-5624, Japan, 1997 | ++++
       o info: Contains 6 newly recorded "Italian session" tracks, in the
         line of the beloved 70's Italian cinematographic style, with Edda
         Dell'Orso's wordless vocals on 3 of them (one of which is written
         by Piero Piccioni), andAlessandro Alessandroni whistling and doing
         a "mah-na, mah-na" variation on a song written by Piero Umiliani.
         Other tracks are more contemporary, with Towa Tei using samples of
         Sylvia Kristel saying "bonjour baby", Fantastic Plastic Machine,
         Gentle People and others, ranging from new bossa to drum 'n bass
16. The Ultra Man: "Roses and champagne"
       o compil. "Ultra-Lounge Volume 10: Bachelor In Paris"
       o CD, Capitol CDP 36130, USA, 1996 | ++++
       o info: Did you notice that a lot of the "Ultra-Lounge" volumes have
         a mystery track at the end by a cool smooching French guy? I call
         him The Ultra Man
17. Carol Channing: "I'll die happy"
       o album "Carol Channing entertains"
       o lp, Command RS 880 SD, USA, 1965 | ++++
       o info: A novelty album on Command! I have no idea if she really CAN
         sing, but here she sounds as if she can't. For Mrs. Miller fans
         only.
18. Eartha Kitt: "I had a hard day last night"
       o album "Live At Tivoli"
       o LP, Contour 2870 148, UK, 1968 | ++++
       o info: She sounds very very drunk at times...
19. Julie London: "Daddy"
       o album "In person. at the Americana"
       o LP, Liberty, stereo | +++
       o info: Julie parodies her self on "Daddy"!
20. Buddy Cole + Environments + Sound effects: "Cry me a river MIX"
       o album "Modern Pipe Organ" + "A country stream"
       o LP, Warner Bros. W 1533 + LP, Syntonic Research | not rated
21. Dick Hyman & Mary Mayo: "Desafinado"
       o album "Moon gas"
       o CDR copy of LP, MGM E/SE 4110, 196? | +++++
       o info: Sampled by Tipsy. Not all the tracks are as brilliant,
         especially the vocals ones, but there are some truely strange and
         outer space organ sounds happening!
22. Wanda De Sah & Sergio mendes: "So nice (Samba de verao)"
       o compil. "Ultra-Lounge Volume 14: Bossa Novaville"
       o CD, Capitol CDP 53410, USA, 1997 | ++++
       o info: Various Capitol artists pour a tasty bossa nova souce over
         their music, a sauce prepared by composer Jobim in about half of
         the tracks. These are a few of my favorite tracks: "Misirlou",
         "Quiet village", and "The look of love" in a bossa version, and a
         whistled "Girl from Ipanema".
23. Rhoda Scott: "Moanin'"
       o album "Take Five"
       o CD, Polygram/Verve 511 479, France, 1991 | ++++
       o info: Excellent Hammond jazz

    album ratings:

         +++++outstanding, ++++very good, +++good, ++not bad, +so-so, -yuk

        the radio pages + "eXotica Releases Overview" on my web site:
        <http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/>


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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soundtracks?
Date: 29 Jun 1998 16:12:10 +0100






Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
06/29/98 11:12 AM


cc:


This weekend I saw The Getaway. Top film but was there a soundtrack? Is it
Quincy or someone of that ilk?

Also, was The Driver soundtrack ever available? Any details?

And finally, what about Gatur? Any details on that one?


LPs of course.



Thanks



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues
Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:19:27 +0100






Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
06/29/98 12:19 PM


cc:




>>And don't you think the moment to rerelease any Moog album is sort of
over?

Exactly.

So why is 101 Strings Astro Sounds out? and how many people will be queing
up to get it?

In fact, why, of all the LPs that people really want, do we get 101 strings
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) April March
Date: 29 Jun 1998 19:38:22 UT


Anyone know if the Kooky EP is still available and how one might obtain it?

Thanks,
Peter


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From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 29 Jun 1998 13:34:39 -0700


At 08:09 AM 6/29/98 EDT, you wrote:

>Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or
>hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or
so.
>
>Ashley

My six year old daughter still does the macarena.  Sometimes to the tune of
"Spice up your life" by the Spice Girls.  Truly frightening.

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc
Date: 29 Jun 1998 16:48:17 EDT


Actually Ashley some trends never say die. As a mobile DJ I can attest to the
fact that if I DON'T play the marcarena, my clients' guests often treat me
like I'm a hopeless simpleton because I haven't played it ...The Marcarena is
alive and well, just as is the YMCA, The Hustle, The Twist, The Alley-Cat
(Hully  Gully), the Conga line, Hot-Hot Hot, The Party Train, even the Chicken
Dance....The worst part is, I gotta smile while I play them as if I'm having a
good time hearing each for the 500 drillionth time...But this is why you hear
mobile DJ's all play the same things; dance-floor rituals like the YMCA are
part of the culture. But there really is nothing quite like watching 3
generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place
they can go for anonymous sex!


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From: Steve Sando <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Peggy Lee
Date: 29 Jun 1998 14:03:22 -0700


I was just curious- why hasn't Peggy Lee been made an icon in the Cocktail
Nation?
What voice sounds more like a dry martini? Who was hipper in a bland 1950s
America?

Some of her stuff was a bit corny but she should be dipped in gold if only
for Fever and Is That All There Is?.

Just a thought.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc
Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:51:26 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-29 16:52:17 EDT:

<< The Marcarena is
 alive and well, just as is the YMCA, The Hustle, The Twist, The Alley-Cat
 (Hully  Gully), the Conga line, Hot-Hot Hot, The Party Train, even the
Chicken
 Dance... >>

Now that (those) are really scary!!!!!!




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Subject: Re: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc
Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:52:37 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-29 16:52:17 EDT, :

<< But there really is nothing quite like watching 3
 generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place
 they can go for anonymous sex! >>

Please see comment on my previous post.


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) This weeks LP finds
Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:59:11 EDT


Hmmmm, my checking account is a lot lighter now. Oh, that's right, it was the
weekend.....and the weekend means LP shoping!

Not too bad of a score this weekend out here in the LA area....I've had Better
weekends, but still not bad. This is what I found:

IN COLD BLOOD-soundtrack. What a great Q score....stereo and in  vg+...all for
$4 ( what a deal!!!)

Jack Lemmon-Irma La Douce. if you like the original Andre Previn score to the
film, you'll love Jacks piano.....stereo. Near Mint!  Can't beat it for five
bucks!

Sinatra - Look to your Heart. Alright, not the best Sintra LP, but it's nice
to add to the collection....original pressing, mono, Near Mint cover and LP,
for $2

Sinatra - At The Sands....What can I say; Basie, Q, and frank all on one LP!
Original Reprise pressing, stereo, near mint cover and LP. $7

Ella- Ella in Hollywood. Stereo. VG/VG. $8

Rosemary Clooney - Thanks for Nothing. One of the better RC LP's from the
reprise era. Great cover too! Good+....$3

Judy Garland- At the Grove. Ok, I'm not a big JG fan at all, but I bought this
LP just for it's value (books in stereo for $65 in NM shape !!!). Yet after I
played it, I enjoyed it more than I should I say...lol.....nice stereo copy in
vg- shape...$5

Tito Rodriguez - Motion Picture Cha Cha Cha. Just can't get enough of Tito!
Wall to Wall stereo, near mint cover and LP...all for $4

Buddy Morrow - Impact. Stereo, original pressing....it's one of these LP's
that the vinyl looks mint, but sounds good +. I over paid for this one...$14

Les Baxter - Kaleidoscope. one of those "OK" baxter LP's, but I couldn't turn
this one down. In near Mint shape LP, and a Good cover.....original green
capitol, in mono......for $12

Robert Mitchum - Calypso-is like so.... Um, it's so bad it's so good! I love
it! And what a find of LP too...in VG- shape, capitol original....the cover is
a tad damaged, all for $15.... At the Pasadena swap meat, I've seen this LP
listed at $70-$90 range, and it's not as NICE as the one I found!

Anyhow, all of these were found in the LA area on Sunday. I hit five
stores.....Record Surplus, Rhino, Aarons, Record recycle, and Rockaway
Records....must say that Rhino is becoming THE store to find some great
deals!....Record Surplus is on an up-swing right now. After almost 4 months of
find nothing at RS, stuff is coming out of the woodworks!....at for Rockaway,
OVERPRICED. Um, I just don't get paying $24.95 for a mono copy of Hank
Mancini's COMBO re-issue!

UGH! a three day weekend this coming weekend! MORE LP SHOPPING DAYS!!! My
girlfriend is goingg to kill me!  ;-)


Jayson


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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites
Date: 29 Jun 1998 15:09:33 +0000


I broke my friggan' tiki lites putting them up after repainting
the grotto (long story)

I can't seem to find tiki lites anywhere. Anybody know where
a fellah might find some?


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From: [e-mail] (Craig Carlson)
Subject: (exotica) Anne Sexton
Date: 29 Apr 1998 19:35:42 -0700


All,

The poet Anne Sexton recorded a rock (?) album in 1969 called "Anne Sexton
and Her Kind". Anyone have a copy they could tape for me?

Thanks,

Craig

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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 'Tis the season
Date: 29 Jun 1998 16:46:45 +0000


A reminder to all you cats and kitties that I am fervently
working on my christmas CD compilation. I'm still looking for
contributions, suggestions, and any help you think you can lend.

There are a few listees who have seen last year's oferring, and the
response is invariably positive. At first glance, it looks like
something commercially produced - it's real slick. The content
is lots of fun... Babs Gonzales, Lenny Dee, Harry the Hipster, Leon
Berry, Billy May and lots of other groovy tidbits.

I really need help this year to top myself. This is the third year I've
done a compilation, and it gets harder and harder. The last two found
me SWEARING that I have done all the good stuff, but I always find
AMAZING weird tracks that complete the collection. What is it about
Christmas that lends itself to the WEIRDEST novelty music known to man?

Every year I make a list (and believe me, I check twice)
and send a copy to every good little boy and girl who took the
time to contribute with lists of suggestions or record loans
or whatever they think will be helpful. If you think you can help,
please contact me. (I'm particularly interested in some Chanukah
material...anyone?)

This year I am also going to offer it for sale in limited quantities to
hopefully help offset the rather substantial costs. (Anybody want to
make a few bucks distributing?) I don't have any delusions of profit,
and the price will likely be low if I can secure favorable printing
terms and other key cost-factors. I am considering professional CD
replicating as opposed to burning them at home. (I could use some
guidance here, too.)

There have been pledges of record loans or to digitize selections for me
from some of you (you know who you are) and not everybody has followed
through. If that's you, and you can still help please do. No questions
asked.

Thanks everybody!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peggy Lee
Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:54:22 +0000


At 02:03 PM 6/29/98 -0700, Steve Sando wrote:
>why hasn't Peggy Lee been made an icon in the Cocktail
>Nation?

Gee, I thought she was.  Actually, I have most recently been thinking about
this, too.  I was noticing she did a duet with Dean Martin.  Not that I
don't think that Dean-o is hip, but he always seemed a bit too laid back.
However, put him with Peggy Lee and the song sparkles.  She seems to do
that with a lot of songs.  Also, she plugged into a lot of the exotica
approaches we take for granted instrumentally but don't hear approached as
much by well known vocalists (Latin ala Lee a prime example).  While I
really like Julie London, I have found that her material doesn't stretch
into all the corners like Peggy Lee's seems to do.

By the way, is Peggy Lee still with us?

Byron

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Subject: (exotica) Stray Cats / Bill Haley similarity
Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:11:46 -0400


> Think back to any visual you have of Bill Haley and his Comets.  Does
> that instrumentation look like the Stray Cats?  Nope, there's a steel
> guitar and an accordion in that group.

I'm straying from the topic a bit, but when I saw the Stray Cats perform
live in the early 80's, I was amazed at the physical acts that Lee
Rocker did as he played his string bass....lifting it up into the air,
lying prone face forward as the bass lied on its side, and even holding
and playing it like a guitar as he hopped on one leg across the stage.

Later I saw a video of Bill Haley & the Comets and saw the same level of
physical antics being done by their bass player....only they also
included having the sax player sit in one of the bass's side
indentations and wailing away while the bass player dragged him across
the dance-floor.

Both bands were very fun to watch.

Sure, these acts have nothing to do with the quality of the sound, but
they do help to get the crowd riled up so they are more likely to
dance.  It's amazing how often musicians are willing to use such antics
to get a positive crowd rapport.....how many times have you seen a
guitarist hold the guitar to his face and make believe he is playing it
with his teeth (just like Hendrix) while his fingers are producing the
real sounds on the guitar neck.

Vern
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Scairy Dances!!
Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:41:53 -0400


>> The Marcarena is alive and well, just as is the YMCA, The Hustle, The
>> Twist, The Alley-Cat (Hully  Gully), the Conga line, Hot-Hot Hot,
>> The Party Train, even the Chicken Dance...

>Now that (those) are really scary!!!!!!

There are some things scarier!!!  Here is a quick list of Dancing
Scariness Levels, with Number 1 being NOT Scary and Number 9 being VERY
SCARY!!!

1.  A dance partner who knows all the moves, isn't snobby about it, and
is willing to teach me the ones I don't know

2.  A dance partner who enjoys music and dancing and doesn't care what
others think of their sloppy dancing style

3.  A dance partner who is nervous, but willing to be with you on the
dancefloor.

4.  A dance partner who is so introverted and self-concious that the
only dances they will do are the 'safe' ones listed above where they
doesn't stand out from any of the other dancers.

5.  Someone who enjoys listening to music and watching people, but
doesn't like to dance at all.

6.  Someone who likes to listen to music, but only at home or in the
car, where there isn't as much cigarette smoke and as many drunken
people, and is completely unwilling to be join and be associated with
those drunkards who are out on the dancefloor.

7.  Someone who likes to listen to music, but only if it is quiet and
peaceful and performed during a church service

8.  Someone who listens to music, but only if its John Phillip Sousa
March music or other patriotic songs being played very loud as they
watch to make sure that everyone in the room has their hands over their
hearts as they salute the flag.

9.  Someone who doesn't enjoy music, period.

I'm not sure which of these last two is the scariest.

Vern
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist from 2 years ago
Date: 29 Jun 1998 21:14:14 -0700


 KFJC play list 6/30/96 for Jack Diamond
 Sunday 10AM-1PM, since January 1993
 http://www.kfjc.org

 ARTIST                TRACK                       ALBUM ETC.
______________________________________________________________________
 Planets               Chunky

 Hal Mckusick Qrt.     Minor Seventh Heaven        Sept 1955/RCA
 Lalo Schifrin         The Chase                   Cool Hand Luke
 Riz Ortolani          The Night Club              Biggest Bundle

 Chico Rey and the
 Jet Band              Stiletto                    Sid Ramin, SCAMP CD

 Dick Hyman            Living on Borrowed Time     Fabuolous,Command
 Jackie and Roy        Walkin'                     MARCH,1957
 Les Paul              Sleep                       66,67
 Hal Blaine,Paul
 Beaver                Emil Richards-Flashes       67

 Bing Day              Mama's Place                Get BEAT
 Esquivel              Begin the Beguines          58/RCA
 Jerry Goldsmith       The Search                  Planet of the
                       Original Soundtrack         Apes

 Martin Denny          Quiet Village               Exotica !
 Leo Diamond           3rd Man Theme               Themes From Great

 City of Westminster                               Foreign Films
 String Band           Split Level

 Jean Jacques Perrey   Mr. James Bond              Amazing New
                                                   Electronic
                                                   Pop Sounds of

 Chet Baker, Art
 Pepper, Richie        The Route                   Pacific Jazz
 Kamuca                                            1956

 Buddy Emmons          Linus and Lucy Medley       Steel Guitar Instro

 Shakespeare, John
 Orchestra             Mucho Mexico SEVEN-0        [coll]: Easy Project

 Art Blakely W/ Benny
 Golson, Lee Morgan    Bobby Timmons-Pno,
 Jymie Merritt-Bass    Are You Real ?              Blue Note Orig.

 Osibisa               Superfly T.N.T.

 Lambert Hendricks and
 Ross                  Halloween Spooks

 Electric Flag         M-23                        The Trip
 Dick Hyman/Mary Mayo  Desafinado                  Moon Gasssssssssssssss
 Harry Lubin           Weird                       One Step Beyond
 Pete Rugolo           Voodoo Man,Guilty Men       Thriller
 Bob Thompson Orch     There's a Small Hotel       On the Rocks
 Walter Wanderly       Summer Samba
 Andre' Poppppp        Manchester Et Liverpool
 Al Caiola             The Rat Patrol Theme

 Candido, Joe Puma,    Mambo Inn(Abc Paramount)    1957
 Dick Katz-Pno,
 Al Cohn W.Mitchell-Bass

 Kenyon Hopkins        The Long Walk               Shock!!!!!!!!!!
 Jack Burger           Bongo Instruction

 Barney Kessel         Carmen's Cool(She Sure Is)  ;-)> 1958

 Fortune Tellers       Ahhhhh,Sweet Mystery of Life

 Jimmie Haskel         Homeward Earth              Mono, 1957/8
 Ahbez, Eden           The Wanderer                Eden's Island
 Don Ralke Orch        Rex's Theme                 Bourbon St Beat
 Speedy West           West of Samoa
 Pierro Umiliani       Beer Vermouth and Gin       Sweden,Heaven
                                                   & Hell

 Ray Martin Orchestra  Whoooooooooodunnit????????????????????
 Mancini               The Cat(Lalo Schifrin)      67

 Pete Rugolo           Diamond on the Move

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Frankie Capp
Date: 29 Jun 1998 20:59:30 +0000


In preparation for this year's Mr. Smooth's Top 69, I started going through
ALL my records.  I discovered two records which are part of a series of at
least 12 records featuring the Frankie Capp Percussion Group.  The covers
are boring, but the records are pretty good.  Bob Florence and Bob Drasnin
arranged, Dave Pell plays sax, Tom Tedesco plays guitar and of course,
Frank Capp is one of the three percussionists.  All were tributes to
leading big bands:  2002: Harry James, 2003 Artie Shaw, 2004 Benny Goodman,
2005 Lawrence Welk, 2007 Duke Ellington, 2008 Glenn Miller, 2009 Perez
Prado, 2010 Dorsey, 2011 Big Bands, 2012 Henry Mancini, 2013 Les Brown,
2014 Count Basie.  I have 2013 and 2002 (Kimberly records, put out by
Precisions Radiation Instruments of Los Angeles!).  Have you heard any of
these?  I am especially interested in 2012.  Anyway, if you can find cheap
copies of these, I don't think you can lose.

Byron

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie Capp (The Trip, Getaway, Moog Power)
Date: 30 Jun 1998 01:27:26 EDT


<< In preparation for this year's Mr. Smooth's Top 69, I started going through
 ALL my records.  I discovered two records which are part of a series of at
 least 12 records featuring the Frankie Capp Percussion Group.  The covers
 are boring, but the records are pretty good....All were tributes to
 leading big bands:...2012 Henry Mancini...Have you heard any of
 these?  I am especially interested in 2012.  Anyway, if you can find cheap
 copies of these, I don't think you can lose.>>

No you can't!  I've got that Mancini one, full title PERCUSSION IN A TRIBUTE
TO HENRY MANCINI on the Kimberly label.  Mostly a Peter Gunn track list with
Mr. Lucky thrown in for good measure.  My LP shows the series numbers as 5
digits, 110**.  This one is 11012, same last two digits.  Great jazz LP is
what it is, West Coast style.  Ted Nash, Bud Shank, Stu Williamson, Harry
Betts, Frank Rosolino, Larry Bunker and Emil Richards(!).  Jack turned me on
to this series and since the covers are bland, they seem to go unnoticed.

My little soundtrack guide shows no listing for a score on record for THE
GETAWAY.

Electric Flag's THE TRIP is (or was) out on CD.

You've been warned about MOOG POWER, aside from a couple of fantastic covers -
Dizzy and MacArthur Park - the majority of this LP is made up of some pretty
horrible vocal covers of late 60's top 40 hits, such as Touch Me and Traces.
I punished Nate Miner with the former and never heard from him again!  tee hee

Gimme Gene Page's BLACULA as my re-ish wish - he's deadlier than Dracula.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mr. Smooth Top 69--1998
Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:32:13 +0000


For the second year, Mr. Smooth is going through his record collection
to select his top 69 musicians.  His collection is getting big enough that
it is no simple matter to pick 69 (last year he had to use some less than
good records to fill out the list!).

So, here is a PRELIMINARY list from top to bottom of MORE than 69.  These
are all represented in his LPs only (no 45s, 78s or CDs).

How would you prioritize this VERY rough list...would you add some, what
would you subtract?  Your ideas are very welcome!

I'll let you know what the FINAL list is later this week, but for now, here
is my first attempt:

Juan Esquivel, Enoch Light, Terry Snyder, Ferrante & Teicher, Dick Schory,
Bob Thompson, Perez Prado, Dick Hyman, Henry Mancini, Martin Denny, Bob
Rosengarden/Phil Kraus, Arthur Lyman, Lenny Dee, Dean Elliot, Eartha Kitt,
Edmundo Ros, Hal Mooney, Mike Simpson, Don Catelli, Bobby Darin, Henri
Rene, Billy Mure, Peggy Lee, Ross Bagdasarian, Charles Magnante, Xavier
Cugat, Julie London, Belmonte, The Three Suns, Si Zentner, Al Caiola, Ethel
Smith, Les Baxter, Skip Martin, Leo Diamond, Buddy Merrill, Sir Julian
Gould, Sid Bass, Leo Arnaud, Jack Marshall, Tito Puente, Joe Loco, Billy
May, Walter Kime, Don Costa, The Frankie Capp Percussion Group, Berlingeri
and his Percussive Harpsichord, The Bobby Havana Boys, Irving Joseph, Buddy
Cole, Roger Ericson, Walter Wanderly, The Baha Marimba Band, Leo Addeo,
David Carroll, Werner Muller, Mariano Merceron, Katie Lee, Manny Albam,
Earl Grant, Hugo Montenegro, Artie Kane, Danny Guglielmi, Horst Jankowski,
Buddy Morrow, Chuck Sagle, Eddy Manson, Maxwell Davis, Art Van Damme,
Ronnie Aldrich, Merlin, Stanley Black, Jonathan and Darlene Edwards (Paul
Weston and Jo Stafford!), Ray Martin, Larry Elgart, The Velvet Sounds,
Andre Popp, Vic Schoen, Marjorie Meinert, Dick Kesner, Ted Heath, The
Sauter-Finegan Orchestra, Marty Gold, Johnny Keating's Kombo, Eddie Cano,
Eddie Osborn, The Percussion All Stars, The Percussion Pop All Stars, Sid
Ramin, Russ Case, David Rose, Jerry Murad's Harmonicats, Roger King Mozian.

That is 93...but I have to get it to 69. I was going to include Mel Henke
fairly high up, but, alas, I don't have any of his records.  Unless I can
find him on a compilation (like I did Dean Elliot), he will have to be off
the list.  Maybe next year.

More than half those names I had never heard of a year ago.  It has been a
wonderful mind-opening year.  Now, who did I leave out? Your kind
suggestions are appreciated.

After I get my list pared down and in order, I then need to select an LP
and a cut to represent each artist (of course, limited to Mr. Smooth's own
collection).  Your thoughts again would be welcome.

Byron

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime
Date: 30 Jun 1998 08:25:11 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-29 08:56:12 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< >Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or
 >hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or
so.

 quite different phenomenon.  first two you mentioned were instantly industry
 created gimmicks...while the swing thing has been gaining steam 'organically'
 and incrementally for years to be accurate.

**These first two dances were not industry created gimmicks. There is no dance
industry and the record industry does not go about creating dances, it merely
jumped on what was at that point a craze. I remember on breakfast TV show
reports a couple of years ago about hiow the macarena had been the rage in
Spain and other parts of Europe for a while.

 as tosh once informed me, in the late 6T' Sears & Roebuck for one season had
 a slogan to the effect of "...there's a revolution going on at Sears".
point?
 underground trends which develop of there own accord eventually are co-opted
 by the mainstream.


**Agreed

swing is barely near that point yet.  much more left
 in it.

**Aren't the top 2 or 3 swing bands in the country on major labels? - Sounds
like co-opting already to me.

 also one must remember that there were swing clubs for the WWII generation
 that had been going quietly, almost since the swing generation 'started'.

**Agreed but aren't these people WW2 vets who do this to recapture nostalgia
and not the age of the average 20-something "scenester" who you' are likely to
brush elbows with at a swing event. To use a previous example, you could say
the lindy-hop never went out of style as "In The Mood" or some other big band
classic is a staple of weddings so the old folks can dance (not to mention the
Chicken Dance),and come to think about it we have the cruise indusrty for
perpetuating on shipboards all over the seas the Electric Slide!

 on the sinatra list, which is mainly populated by 35-60 yr old males there
was
 significant out pouring of interest in BBVD recently.  dont get me wrong,
 personally
 i'm hardly ga-ga over swing, but it has *alot* going for it in term of
popular
 appeal...and alot more 'upward' life in it as a trend before it levels off
 or gets
 co-opted in a way that will turn off the underground.

**This is not really surprising as look at the upper end of very age group you
point out - these are the folks of the original swing generation so of course
there would be interest in new groups doing this. The movement is already co-
opted, by the majors who have signed the "top" swing bands down to dance
schools like Arthur Murray who are smacking their lips and rubbing their hands
together in the number of 20 and 30 somethings taking "swing" dance lessons.

However, the sorriest co-opting of the movement comes from within, by allowing
all too many mediocre to awful new swing bands to form along with their trite
attempts to write new jump blues anthems.


Ashley
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Swing to the right...
Date: 30 Jun 1998 08:34:07 EDT




 Combustible Edison and Friends of Dean Martinez have helped build
 up interest in exotica.  If there were some more bands doing exotica
 it would help further it even more. >>

I doubt it...the problem with the "exotica" music is that it requires both far
more disciplined musicianship and in some cases even a far larger band to
preform unlike with swing which is quite honestly a lot simpler in structure.
While it is fine to have current bands performing this type of music the
"exotica" movement (or whatever you want to call it) is more firmly based in
the original records, unlike swing which has a much stronger base in current
bands that perform.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues
Date: 30 Jun 1998 08:37:00 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-29 13:49:42 EDT, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-
[e-mail] writes:

<< So why is 101 Strings Astro Sounds out? >>
As the guy who reissued the CD, if you have to ask you either haven't heard
it, or you just don't get it.

Ashley


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Subject: Re: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc
Date: 30 Jun 1998 08:40:19 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-29 16:52:17 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Actually Ashley some trends never say die. As a mobile DJ I can attest to
the
 fact that if I DON'T play the marcarena, my clients' guests often treat me
 like I'm a hopeless simpleton because I haven't played it ...The Marcarena is
 alive and well, just as is the YMCA, The Hustle, The Twist, The Alley-Cat
 (Hully  Gully), the Conga line, Hot-Hot Hot, The Party Train, even the
Chicken
 Dance....The worst part is, I gotta smile while I play them as if I'm having
a
 good time hearing each for the 500 drillionth time >>


That's what free booze will do to ya...it can make you drop your inhibitions
and display your bad taste...maybe scenes like you describe should be
videotaped and shown at Alhcoholics Anonymous meetings and I'm sure you'd see
great cures instantly!

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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Simply because Urania me...
Date: 30 Jun 1998 10:12:29 -0400


I cannot recall whether I asked this to the list or not.  I have a Ferrante
& Teicher LP called Rhapsodies (I am away from the record, so that may or
may not be correct).

It is on the Urania label.  What little I have found out about the label is
that it was active in the 50's and that they were sued by pianist Walter
Gieseking for releasing Bootleg recordings of him.

My question to all of you is: what do I have?

1. An early recording for one of their first labels?
2. A bootleg compilation?
3. The sun in the morning and the moon at night?
4. Sorry.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues
Date: 30 Jun 1998 15:30:42 +0100






Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL
06/30/98 10:30 AM


cc:


>>As the guy who reissued the CD, if you have to ask you either haven't
heard
it, or you just don't get it.

Ashley<<

When I wondered alound why the 101 Strings Astro Sounds LP has been
rereleased, I didn't mean that it was shit. I know its a good LP and I do
'get it'. My point is that this is such an obscurity (especially here in
the UK) and not immediately likable - nor does it exude instant popular
appeal. In fact, how many people are desperate to find this LP? I would
guess hardly any. Even once most people have heard it, they're not going to
leap from their seats shouting 'Oh my god, I must go out and find 101
strings or my life will not be complete'.

As a choice for reissuing, I think this is bizarre. A lost classic? No. A
rare gem? No. A record of such brilliance that it must now see the light of
day? No. A record that will quickly generate appeal amongst the masses? No.
A crap easy listening record with a wierd electronic edge that appeals to a
minority of fans who have elevated its status to slightly above the rest of
the dross that we discuss? Yes.

Will it make any money? Not much
So why reissue it?

Don't flame me, I'm not interested. And don't start going on all over the
place about why we're all on this list and the records we discuss. I know.


Charlie





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From: [e-mail] (Desmond K. Hill)
Subject: (exotica) record stores in Amsterdam
Date: 30 Jun 1998 16:00:33 +0000


A friend of is heading over to Amsterdam, & has asked me to enquire from
the list if anyone can commend any record stores or warehouses in Amsterdam
that deal in old exotica-style LPs?

Please e-mail me your advice direct (i.e. off-list).  Thanks.

All suggestions eagerly awaited...

:)

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From: "VIC RUGH" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc
Date: 30 Jun 1998 10:23:35 CDT


DJJimmyB wrote:

"The worst part is, I gotta smile while I play them as if I'm having a good
time hearing each for the 500 drillionth time... "

Reminded me of a paragraph in a book called "Nice Work If You Can Get It"
by Michael Feinstein (mostly about the Gershwins):
Page Cavanaugh, a fellow piano-bar player, on songs he'd rather die than
play one more time, along with the prices he'd charge for each:
     "Send in the Clowns," five thousand dollars;
     "The Impossible Dream," $8,000;
     "My Way," ten thousand bucks;
     "I Left My Heart in San Francisco," twelve thousand;
     "New York, New York," $25,000.
     Anything by Andrew Lloyd Webber -- anything at all -- is a whopping
$50,000.
And "Feelings" isn't on his list -- because he doesn't even want to hear
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) marcarena, trends, etc
Date: 30 Jun 1998 13:17:52 EDT


I wish you didn't feel that way ;-!


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Subject: (exotica) Chaino: African and Beyond
Date: 30 Jun 1998 13:07:23 -0400



Is this a good CD?  How would you describe Chaino's sound?

I'm thinking predominant percussion?

- Nate


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From: Lloyd Kandell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica is the thing...
Date: 30 Jun 1998 09:19:54 -1000


In response to Ashley's astute response below... it's true that exotica
requires a larger band to create the sound live. We just played a swank
event at Diamond Head with our core of seven players (drums, percussion,
bass/vocals, flute, vibes, 2 keyboards). People were swinging 'n swaying
in a more sensual way than say to a new swing band. Of course, we prefer
the full floor show with an extra vocalist, sax (Jerry Martini of Sly
Stone's original band joined in 2nd set!), and hollywood/hawaii dancing
hula maidens... about 13 on stage total! Quite an expense when it comes
to touring. We do however, plan on touring east + west coasts this fall.
Will post details here when things start to gel. BTW... check out
cmj.com this thursday for a feature on us w/RealAudio samples.

alohadercci,
Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>  Combustible Edison and Friends of Dean Martinez have helped build
>  up interest in exotica.  If there were some more bands doing exotica
>  it would help further it even more. >>
>
> I doubt it...the problem with the "exotica" music is that it requires both far
> more disciplined musicianship and in some cases even a far larger band to
> preform unlike with swing which is quite honestly a lot simpler in structure.
> While it is fine to have current bands performing this type of music the
> "exotica" movement (or whatever you want to call it) is more firmly based in
> the original records, unlike swing which has a much stronger base in current
> bands that perform.


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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Oops
Date: 30 Jun 1998 13:42:06 PDT



Apologies for the resend. Very bad form. I was trying to delete it from
my trash can, you see....

You know who you are

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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites -Reply
Date: 30 Jun 1998 14:01:38 +0000


Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> Archie McPhee - ya mean those patio lights?

I'm posting this publicly to reply to other similar
suggestions, and so folks don't think I'm being lazy.

I tried Archie McPhee first. I received a message back
from them that the company that supplied their Easter Island
Maori-looking tiki lamps went out of business. They have been
looking for a replacement, because the items were popular, and
they sell buttloads of the things in the summertime.

Search-engines were no help either. Baby [e-mail] (you all know
Baby Doe, right?) Said the same thing. Dig her site and check her tiki
section at http://www.creative.net/~babydoe/

There are other hanging tiki lites that look like they were cast from
a tiki mug - they are apparently pretty scarce too, since no
party-supply houses (wholesale OR retail) seem to have 'em.

Thank you to everyone that has taken the time to try to point me in the
right direction.

As a side-note, I contacted local plastics manufacturers about MAKING
some of these items. If what I'm hearing is true, there is demand, but
no supply. You should have heard me trying to describe what a tiki is to
these guys. They thought I was NUTS! One kind gentleman knew instantly
what i was up to, and thought it was a neat idea. He spent 20 minutes
with me on the phone giving me advice on how to go about it even though
he did not have the the apparatus necessary for tiki-light manufacture.
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From: jasmine j jopling <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc
Date: 30 Jun 1998 14:23:39 -0700



> Easter Island
>Maori-looking tiki lamps went out of business. They have been
>looking for a replacement, because the items were popular, and
>they sell buttloads of the things in the summertime.

<snip>

Tiki lights, swing dancing, two-toned shoes, vintage furniture etc...

As I see all of the above mentioned things get more and more popular with a
more, erm, mainstream  crowd, I'm left trying to find something that I can
love that won't be the object of the latest MTV special.  But it gets
harder, cos, goshdarnit, we're running out of retro.  (see
http://www.theonion.com/onion3214/usretro.html  the onion archives for a
great essay on this!!).

Here in SF, there's an Andrews Sisters night coming up, you can buy all
manner of tiki torches, mugs and other goodies at Urban Outfitters and
swing dance lessons, which used to cost $5 (and included the band
afterwards, so you could practice) are now packed to the door...   What's
next?  It's so hard to take pride in the things I've collected when you can
buy modern versions of them at every cornershop.

But I'm whining.  In a way, I'm lucky to have places to go that play music
I like.  Anyway, retro fads are cyclical, right?  Hopefully the general
public will move on to buying new acid washed jeans and Dokken t-shirts...

tootles,

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino: African and Beyond
Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:11:38 EDT


<< Is this a good CD?  How would you describe Chaino's sound? >>

Hell yes, it's a good CD.  Lighting fast drumming and bongos with CHA-EE-NO,
the percussion genius of Africa.  Pounding, exotic, jungle rhythms with
grunting, raw, primitive, breathy moans and groans.  There are some tracks
where this could easily pass for the sound of bondage, pain and S E X ! !  I
love it.  You will too.

The 70 minute, 28 track disc is broken into 3 parts, Exoticana, Rock 'N
Rollana and Africana.  Taken from 6 LP's which you will probably NEVER see on
labels such as Omega, Dot, Verve and Tampa with thumbnail photos of the covers
in the liners.

A steal at $11.99.

Thank you Kirby Allan and Lee Joseph.


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Subject: (exotica) Deejay Simpletons
Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:20:54 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-29 16:52:17 EDT, you write:

<< The worst part is, I gotta smile while I play them as if I'm having a
 good time hearing each for the 500 drillionth time...But this is why you hear
 mobile DJ's all play the same things; dance-floor rituals like the YMCA are
 part of the culture.>>

THATS why.  Man, I just thought they were all out of it.  At my wedding (this
was in 1989) I had one song left to play before the DJ was pulling out and I
was deciding between "In the Navy" by the Village People and and some song
about having big tits by the Bollock Bros (sorry, I can't remember the name of
it)  I decided to go with the "I Like Big Tits" song.  Man, it just floored
all the old ladies at the wedding and I had a blast flooring them.

<< But there really is nothing quite like watching 3
 generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place
 they can go for anonymous sex!>>

This is classic!  I got to quote you sometime somewhere on this one!

LOL,

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Subject: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers....
Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:20:39 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-29 10:47:22 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< ...it is not something you can easily learn
 in one 45 minute lesson.  Especially Lindy...therefore it should not
 be lumped in with dances like the Macarena or simple line dancing
 or whatever...  Folks that are into swing dancing have to make a
 considerable investment in time learning how to do it and therefore
 will be less likely to spend the months learning how to swing dance
 to only end up dancing for a couple of months.>>

Exactly!!! That's why it isn't going to really become a big mainstream scene -
too much of an investment for people.

 <<..bands like Big Bad Voodoo Daddy and Brian Setzer Orchestra
 are the flagships for helping to build the scene.....>

Man, I saw the Brian Setzer Orchestra several years ago and thought they were
totally hoaky - a bunch of old timer musicians that had no "cool"
sensibilities to them whatsoever, altho they could play horns, etc. that
today's kids don't bother to learn. (so perhaps Brian wanted a big band and
had to resort to old-time musicians to make it happen, I guess I shouldn't
fault him for that, but the music wasn't all that cool)  Then I notice his new
album cover's got some tiki mugs on it.  What's that about?  Is he gone lounge
now?  What's up with that?

<<After, "real" punk rock and "real"  grunge  rock, we (the listening
audience) is sick of venting venom, anger,  nihilism...we're turning away from
emotional music and we're looking  for good-times music...and we're a little
sick of rock too. >>

I certainly agree here.  I think you will find a lot of punks that are into
exotica are may agree that at least partly their reasons for being into
exotica/lounge is escapism from an all-too serious music scene (and also
boredom with the same one-two-three harsh sound of punk).

- Michele


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Subject: (exotica) A real survey is needed to settle the argument
Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:20:33 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-29 08:12:48 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Hey Paul how many women do you know still doing the lambada, macarena or
 hustle? Probably the same ammount who will be doing the lindy in a year or
so.

 Ashley >>

Well, I'd have to agree that people that get into swing dancing (that are
scenesters - I'm not talking about the yuppie ballroom dance types) they will
probably "grow out ot it" (ie, get bored) after awhile, but they will always
be replaced by a new crop of people who find out about it and want to swing
dance.  My friend tells me that swing is definitely on the upsurge here in
L.A.  Tried to get into a swing dance club with her one night at The Derby
(the stronghold for this stuff) and it was "sold out".  Then she tried to sign
up for some classes and they were sold out too.  Of course this by no means
counts as any kind of a real survey, it would be interesting to do such a
survey.  Has there been an upsurge in places offering to teach swing dancing,
for instance?  Are the classes full?, etc.  That's the only way to really gage
the growth of this phenomenon.

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Subject: (exotica) Chaino: Africana and Beyond
Date: 30 Jun 1998 21:46:38 EDT


<< Is this a good CD?  How would you describe Chaino's sound? >>

I was fortunate enough to win this CD in one of KANU's CD giveaway promotions.
I'll never say that I never won anything good again.

I had been looking for more of the kind of savage ritual sound I heard on the
Perez Prado/Shorty Rogers Voodoo Suite album and on Tito Puente's Tambo. I
found a couple of Guy Warren albums which are authentic African music for the
most part, but Guy's stuff is a little dry and lacks the "voodoo excitement"
that I was looking for.

Chaino is it!  This is the ritual sacrifice sound I was after.  This is like
the soundtrack for 'Tarzan Goes to Hell and Back in a Panzer'.  It has a
variety on it -- elements of African, Latin, twist, Denny-like exotica, even
beatnik jazz at times, but the common thread throughout is the smokin' jungle
percussion.  The grunts, screams, and growls raise the excitement level up yet
another notch.

Essential exotica.  Chaino is king of the jungle!



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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers....
Date: 30 Jun 1998 22:00:37 EDT


I don't know Michele about the hoaky part of Setzer to which you allude...I
think he tears the roof off of "Town Without Pitney"..........I heard it
playing at Tower one day about a year ago and was floored I stopped dead and
just listened. That big band arrangement of such a priceless song struck me as
brilliant. A song often has to be judged by its own merits and not lumped into
a genre by the listener.  Geezer that I've become though,  I have just become
aware of the extent of this swing thing. Bill's Bar in Boston is pushing Br.
Cleve to play swing over swank during his weekly outing.  I am thankful that
MIT's radio station lets me explore the exotica/lounge/swank sound with no
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Mr. Smooth Top 69--1998
Date: 30 Jun 1998 23:19:49 -0400


At 10:32 PM 29/06/98 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>For the second year, Mr. Smooth is going through his record collection
>to select his top 69 musicians.

Wow, it's not enough just to buy them, celebrate them, file them, tape them.
This is truly obsessive and I congratulate you.

>So, here is a PRELIMINARY list from top to bottom of MORE than 69.  would
you add some, what would you subtract?

There were a bunch here that I hadn't heard of.  And a bunch that I didn't
care for but didn't feel strongly enough to say either way.
The ones I would remove easily are : Buddy Cole, Horst Jankowski, the
Harmonicats and Earl Grant.
Not to say that they're bad but if you have to remove some, I've never
heard anything by any of them that belongs on a "best-of" anywhere near
even David Carroll who I would put high on the list but I suspect most
would put lower.

And I strongly recommend that you make MY day anyway and remove both Arthur
Lyman AND Edmondo Ros from your list.

I don't want to make things harder for you but if it were my list, Sonny
Lester would definitely be there.

Nat



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From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers....
Date: 01 Jul 1998 00:07:15


On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:20:39 EDT, <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Man, I saw the Brian Setzer Orchestra several years ago...Then I notice
his new
album cover's got some tiki mugs on it.  What's that about?  Is he gone lounge
now?  What's up with that?

>I think you will find a lot of punks that are into
exotica are may agree that at least partly their reasons for being into
exotica/lounge is escapism from an all-too serious music scene (and also
boredom with the same one-two-three harsh sound of punk).

Why is it ok for hardcore punks to make the musical leap to lounge music
but it's not ok for Brian Setzer to make the arguably much shorter leap
from rockabilly (or big band music) to lounge? What's up with that?

I wasn't the hugest fan of the Stray Cats...but for what it's worth, Brian
Setzer was into retro looks and sounds way, way before 99-44/100 of the
people on this list. I have a hunch that includes you.





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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime & Village People
Date: 01 Jul 1998 00:27:00 EDT


Ahhh, dancing, an ancient courtship and mating ritual done often to primitive
rhythms by hormone-crazed youth under the influence of intoxicating
substances. It will send our children straight to Hell !  Let the kids dance,
but please, no Kenny Loggins singing Footloose....

<< But there really is nothing quite like watching 3
  generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place
  they can go for anonymous sex! >>

I relished the same delicious irony 2 years ago when the Village People
appeared before the suburban family audience at the Sonoma County Fair in
whitebread Petaluma, an hour north of San Francisco and hometown of the
Palmolive "Mommies".  And it was a great show to boot, espec hearing all those
anthems back to back - Fire Island, In the Navy, Macho Man (which had all the
NASCAR-hatted boys a hootin and a hollerin).  But the kids are jaded here,
they can watch the Pride Parade on live TV.

Now the Beanie Baby people, THOSE are the maniacs to worry about !!  I hear
the Rapa Nui Beanie Baby is worth big $$$$$.


JB Twist


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues
Date: 01 Jul 1998 00:30:50 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-30 10:32:26 EDT, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-
[e-mail] writes:

<< As a choice for reissuing, I think this is bizarre. A lost classic? No. A
 rare gem? No. A record of such brilliance that it must now see the light of
 day? No. A record that will quickly generate appeal amongst the masses? No.
 A crap easy listening record with a wierd electronic edge that appeals to a
 minority of fans who have elevated its status to slightly above the rest of
 the dross that we discuss? Yes.

 Will it make any money? Not much
 So why reissue it?

 Don't flame me, I'm not interested. And don't start going on all over the
 place about why we're all on this list and the records we discuss. I know. >>


**Ouch, Charlie! Don't get so touchy! There are people who would beg to
differ, in fact among the reissues I've put together, while it may not be the
best selling reissue of the lot but it certainly has by no means been the
worse.  It was reissued because it was most definitley a very interesting
curio, one of the strangest easy listening records of all time and indeed a
fairly mind-blowing collection of tunes that has influenced more than a number
of current electronic music artists (Just listen to the Drum Island album and
you will hear almost a complete lift fof "Astro Sopunds" first track). But
Charlie, you have every right to your opinion.

You have to realize that there is no convenient list in descending order of
the best easy listening (or whatever you want to call them) albums of all
time. (There are plenty of heated debates at the water cooler over here
regarding the American Film Institue's top 100 Films of all time list!) It
will always be debatable. And one man's treasure is another man's trash. And
reissues will always be released based on who is able to do them and what
oppertunities there may arise in reissuing them. Are there other albums that
desrve a reissue above "Astro Sounds"? Debatably so, however due to rights and
economic realities having to with much higher advances with major labels or
even a major label's catalog head declining a reissue request some things that
desrve a reissue may never get one.

In light of these problems I had the oppertunity to release "Astro Sounds" and
I'm glad I did...and so did the guy who pressed up a bootleg version of the
vinyl that can now be found....so someone else thinks this album is viable.

Ashley


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