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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) recent finds
Date: 01 Oct 1997 00:19:47 -0400 (EDT)


Ok...here are some recent finds - just to let you know where i'm coming
from....

Bernie Green - NFL MARCHING SONGS
Marching instros - one for each team in the National Football League

Robert Young - GUIDEPOSTS FOR LIVING
Radio spots of the religious variety - inspirational!

Bob Prescott - CARTOONS IN STEREO
sound effects artist and commercial TV-Radio announcer create an adventure in
sound

Harry Dietrich - THE SOUNDS OF BABIES
no, not the Raymond Scott.  These are real baby sounds from babies themselves

Breuer / Kingsley - THE HAPPY MOOG
I finally got it!!

Franklyn MacCormack - PERSONALITY DEVELOPMENT
listen to this while you sleep and when you awaken in the morning, you will
pocess a pleasing personality

Nino Rota - JULIET OF THE SPIRTS
wonderful Fellini original soundtrack

Cook Laboratories Road Recording - OF CAVES AND CAVEMEN
john hawley cook interviews cavemen

Cook Laboratories Road Recording - OUT OF THIS WORLD
side one:  earthquakes around the world - seismometer tape recordings; side
two: explores ionospheric swishes, whistlers, tweeks and the dawn chorus

...plus an early Lenny Dee - DEE-LICIOUS
as good as everyone says










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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Lenny Dee
Date: 01 Oct 1997 00:45:28 -0400 (EDT)


Pea Hicks sez:
"i'm still looking for that one that you
always see in miniature on the backs of the records where it looks like
he's *water-skiing* on his organ!!! does anyone have that one??? what's
*really* happening on that cover?!?! it's hard to tell when they print
it so small..."

Lenny Dee  Down South, I have it right here, as a matter of fact.  It was up
on the wall for the longest time.  The cover looks like this : there is a
blonde babe on a single water ski in the foreground; behind her is Lenny, who
is on a raft, which is equipped with an outboard motor but being towed...he's
playing the organ and giving the smiling gal a curious glance...and on top of
the organ are three small dogs.  If you actually look at the photograph it's
a real mind bender...just what was going on there?  One of my favorites, to
be sure.  The tunes are stuff like Georgia on My Mind and the Tennessee
Waltz, it's great.  Country music on organ, sure, you can't beat it.  Of
course, I like the Three Suns Country Music Shindig, too.
I only have four or five Lenny Dee albums, only two of them from his prime.
 I found a copy of Dee-Licious a couple of weeks ago but it was just beat to
hell.  Oh well, guess I'll keep lookin'.


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Les Baxter-Hell's Belles
Date: 01 Oct 1997 10:08:03 +-200



Is this a good Les Baxter soundtrack ?

I don't really know it but Born Again ( late 70's) was so strange I threw it out...What year is it??

Charl



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From: Magnus Sandberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Blue Hawaiian Waters
Date: 01 Oct 1997 11:52:45 +0100




harry Kaapuni and his royal polynesians


See it at:
http://www.ztv.se/pics/blue.JPG

At least you who live in the northern parts of  Tellus should look at
it. You will need it for the winter.

--------
Magnus
in a rainy cooold Stockholm where the facts of life are stranger than
fiction.






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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Quincy Jones $
Date: 01 Oct 1997 04:52:51 -0600


I am after a copy of Quincy Jones' soundtrack "$" or in the UK it is known
as The Heist. Anybody know where I can get a copy, and if it is a rare one,
anyone knows how much it usually goes for? Finding this kind of thing in the
UK is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Thanks in advance. Feel free to email privately.

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: [e-mail] (Subliminal Sounds)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter-Hell's Belles
Date: 01 Oct 1997 13:02:53 +0200 (MET DST)


>
>At 4:08 PM -0700 9/30/97, Jack Diamond wrote:
>>Is this a good Les Baxter soundtrack ?

There was also a 7" issued from the soundtrack:
"Wheels" backed with "Chain Fight", wiiiiiild stuff. Both tracks are on the
LP though but spinning a 45 is a special sensation. As it happens I have a
spare promo copy in my list. Hey this is no sale pitch this is information...

Stefan/Subliminal Sounds



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Phuture Lounge Show
Date: 01 Oct 1997 05:05:10 -0600


Here is a playlist to bore y'all with of my new radio show in Glasgow,
Scotland on 106.2 FM8, Sunday, 1-4pm. Last show is 19 Oct.
 This was broadcast on Sept. 28 with the theme of "exotica".
x Jill "Mingo-go"

MARTIN DENNY "Jungle Drums"
MEL HENKE "The Lively Ones"
THE THREE SUNS "Stumbling"
LEO ARNAUD "Taboo"
DIONNE WARWICKE "Message to Michael"
NANCY SINATRA "Not the Lovin' Kind"
NICE N EASY EXPERIENCE "Spaceman"
LES 5-4-3-2-1 "Bond Street"
LES BAXTER "Jungelero"
FRANK HUNTER "Jungle Drums"
GIAN FRANCO REVERBERI "Le MAlizie di Venere" Seq. 6
TONY HATCH "Herbin"
GIANNI FERRIO "L'appartomento Vuoto"
MARTIN DENNY "Jungle Madness"
THE FREE DESIGN "Bubbles"
LEE HAZLEWOOD "Not the Lovin' Kind"
THE MERRICKS "Citta 2000"
THE GENTLE PEOPLE "World of Love"
LALO SCHIFRIN "Bullitt (End Theme)"
ROY BUDD "Get Carter"
THEMENLAEDEN "Out of Lugano 2 -ON Arrangement" (Peter Thomas mix)
HUGO MONTENEGRO "Boo-Bam-Boo Baby"
COMBUSTIBLE EDISON "Alright, Already"
JIMI TENOR "Downtown"
EDEN AHBEZ "Myna Bird"
REIMANN "Deep Desire"
SUKIA "Feel N Free"
PIERO MONTANARI "Frog in Love"
LESIMAN "Colloquio"
PIERO PICCIONI "Traffic Boom"
ENNIO MORRICONE "Allegretto Per Signora"
DON TRACY "A Night with the Voodoo Family"
DJ LINUS "Good Morning Love, Coffee is Ready"
BIOCHIP C "M. Higher's Pops"
MICHEL LE GRAND "Marins, amis amant ou maris"
PIERO UMILIANI "Stoccolma My Dear"
MONGO SANTAMARIA "La la la"
PIERO UMILIANI "28 Minuti Per 3 Miloni Di Dollari" Seq 1
LES BAXTER "Quiet Village"
MARTIN DENNY "Quiet Village" (moog)
THE MOOG COOKBOOK "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
ENOCH LIGHT "Aquarius"
MULTIPLICATION ROCK "Ready or Not, Here I Come"
GAY FANTASY EXPRESS "Beach Boy"
MARTIN DENNY "Tsetse Fly"
LES BAXTER "The Girl Behind the Bamboo Curtain"
ASTRUD GILBERTO "All That is Left is to Say Goodbye"
ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Chega De Saudade"
NANCY SINATRA "Call Me"
AIR "J'ai Dormi Sous L'Eau"



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From: David Retief <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bosworth?
Date: 01 Oct 1997 14:13:12 +0200






>the above available on cd..  as are:
>
>Super Sounds of Bosworth I and II

Our State radio corporation dumped their entire lp library a couple of
years back.  Amongst the remains I bought these blue-and-white "Bosworth
Backrounds" records.
The covers are seriously elevator (blue and white with text only) - some of
 the faster beaty stuff is brilliant early 70's easyrock. They often have
one side of full lenght tracks and many small 30sec intro's/outro's on the
flipside.
Are these related to the above re-release?

There are at least 4 brands I've come across sofar of this music for
radio/tv backrounds & I'm sure there are hundreds.  They often turn out
great and I wonder how many good musicians/arrangers/composers ended up on
these labels.
Happy Records, a german equavalent to Bosworth, is another winner (featured
 Werner Drexler & orch), and Studio35 (cover always has studio console)
 released a great Gerhard Narholtz & orch.
This is great stuff and I've noticed that he is often covered on other
Happy-ish records.

Do similar brand-type backround lp's circulate in the U.S.A and are they as
 good?
It seems to be quite a german thing or maybe that's just what we got.

David.




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From: Magnus Sandberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Eddie Lund presents
Date: 01 Oct 1997 14:55:03 +0100


"Call of the Coral Isles", an album with great Tahitian pop from TAHITI
RECORDS.

for a Tiki + Pearl Shell engraving by "Bouvier" under water, look at:
http://www.ztv.se/pics/tiki.JPG

---------
Magnus



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From: Magnus Sandberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rare Music
Date: 01 Oct 1997 15:49:29 +0100


Rare Music for october:
http://www.raremusic.com

feat.
Lord Sitar, Erotica the rythms of love and George Cates (!).

You will need shockwave.

Recommended.
--------
Magnus



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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bubbleator Music
Date: 01 Oct 1997 07:23:06 -0700


The Bubbleator as pictured here, scanned from Life magazine - May 4, 1962
issue -
the text reads:
BUBBLEATOR. Visitors ride a spherical, oddly named elevator into a maze of
cubes containing pictures of the hope and havoc of space and the atom. "First
floor," chants the pilot, "threats and thresholds, frustrations and
fulfillments, challenges and opportunities."

The Bubbleator was Washington State's official exhibit in the Coliseum
housed a "World of Tomorrow" exhibit.  The Bubbleator, a 150-passenger
spherical clear
plastic elevator moved 2.5 million people through displays that promised
an easier life ahead.  The operator wore a silver shiny space suit right
out of a Buck Rogers comic strip and is veeeeeery, very cool indeed and the
music to "Man in Space with Sounds" was being played through the sound
system.  Totally outer space man, totally.

"Visitors ascend to the exhibit in a globe-shaped elevator for a 21-minute
tour of the future." Visitor's to the Seattle World's Fair loved the
Bubbleator ride, which was eventually purchased for $5,100 and relocated
after the fair's end to the Center House/Food Circus/Armory.  In the early
80's the Center House was remodeled and the Bubblelator was auctioned off
(amount unknown).
The unknown buyer moved it to their home in North Seattle and turned it
into a terrarium and that's where it sits today.


"Attileo Mineo Conducts Man In Space With Sounds" is the record and the
electronic outer space exotica music with spoken word introductions that
was played in the Bubbleator at the Seattle State World's Fair

Soon to be released on CD

Jack Diamond



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From: Magnus Sandberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rare Music
Date: 01 Oct 1997 13:31:41 +0100


A new look and new artists at:
http://www.raremusic.com

Lord Sitar, Erotica the rythms of love and George Cates (!).

You will need shockwave.

Recommended.
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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 4-track tapes and Playtapes
Date: 01 Oct 1997 12:39:51 -0400 (EDT)


You might find something in the DeadMedia Projects Archives at
http://www.mediahistory.com/dead/archive.html

Ain't the Net grand?

At 12:35 AM 9/28/97 +0100, you wrote:
>
>I acquired my first 4-track tape cartridge today -
>first I ever saw.  Weird!  It says on the outside
>"Duplicated by Muntz Stereo-Pak, Van Nuys, Calif
> Not affiliated with Muntz T.V."
>Anyone know the background behind this disclaimer?
>
>Also, anyone out there own a Playtape machine in
>'68?  I'm curious to know how good or bad the
>hi-fidelity of the system was.  That tape is so
>skinny.
>



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Mummers
Date: 01 Oct 1997 13:47:44 -0400


> From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Re: Mummers & Welk
>
> Twenty years ago I bought an EP which was already twenty years old, but
> unplayed, by the Ferko String Band.  It was on a collectable label.  It
> has a wonderful sleeve pic of the Mummers parade, and the music was
> just as has been described, sort of relentlessly jolly.  "Deep in the
> Heart of Texas" was the standout track, if geographically skew-wiff.
> Does this parade still go on today?

Yes, every January 1st, or a substitute day, depending on bad weather on the
1st. I think they had a little trouble with losing their day-long tv coverage a
year or so ago, but another station picked it up.

> If so, is the music the same?

I would imagine so. They may be covering some more recent tunes, but the nature
of the Mummers' sound is that their style pretty much dominates the material. I
think they could cover Stockhausen and it would still sound like typical
Mummers fare.

> If so, what do the bandsmen _do_ the rest of the year?

I imagine them sitting in their clubhouses drinking beer and sewing new
feathers and sequins on their costumes. But please don't consider that to be an
accurate picture. For those who don't know have any idea what we're talking
about, the Mummers' costumes are sort of a male version of Las Vegas showgirl
costumes, thankfully minus the exposure factor (though there is a drag element
as well).

Duh. I cleverly forgot -- we're on the framdam internet! A quick web search,
and of course, they turn out to have an official website (it's on the same ISP
as me!):

http://www.voicenet.com/~gbanks/mummers.html

m.ace
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 4-track tapes and Playtapes
Date: 01 Oct 1997 14:01:23 -0400


The 8-Track Heaven website has info on both. Great site:

http://www.hickory.net/malco/8track/

And crossing back to the Mummers for a moment (not again!!!); back in the 70's,
I remember seeing lots of UHF tv ads for Mummers 8-track sets. It was probably
only one release, but they advertised the crap out of it, for a while there
(which is why I remember it like a scar).

m.ace
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Beatnik Speak
Date: 01 Oct 1997 11:04:17 -0700


Dig the cat
Latersville baby
Split
I'm splitsville
Stash
Dig
Dig it
Dig the stash
Put on some sides
cool
stay cool
coolsville
uptight
scrape a beek

More later;)

Jack


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Has it been a month yet ?
Date: 01 Oct 1997 11:01:04 -0700


Hello,

My name's Jack and I sell high quality previously enjoyed records from
primarily the late 1940's through the 70's, specializing in BUT not limited
to;

Exotica, Space Age Pop, West Coast/Beatnik Jazz, Beatnik Poetry, Spoken
Word, All Instrumental Guitars incl. 60's Instrumental Pop/Rock Guitar, TV
and Film Soundtracks, Easy Listening, Private Eye/Crime/Spy Jazz, Outer
Space Exotica, Wordless Pop Vocals, Male and Female Jazz/Jazz Pop Vocals,
Moog, Musique Concrete, Electronics, Psychedelic, Blues, R & B, Jump,
Rockabilly, Country Jazz, Theremin, Nude/Cheesecake Album Covers, Jungley
Tropical Rhythms Pounding Out Voodoo Beams of Love and Erotica AND much
much more AND there is much much more;-)

Much of the music that I play on my radio show at KFJC-FM I have for sale
(http://www.kfjc.org)
KFJC now has an Audio Feed at their web site and you just may be able to
pick us up through your computer!  It's a god damn miracle

Some of the LP's are expensive and some are not but 1 thing is for sure is
that I don't sell junk.  All killer no filler

I have an e-mail mailing list in which I send out lists of LP's I have
for sale that are graded Goldmine Collecting Standards *strict*, that
have extensive "Liner Notes" describing the sounds that lie within the
grooves leaving nothing to the imagination ;-)
I'm a goooooooooood writer as opposed to I write well;-))
How's that Irwood ?

Do you want to be on my e-mail mailing list ?  If so then just reply
with a "Hey Jack!  Please add me to your mailing list dude" or some
reasonable facsimile there of;)  If not, then just don't.

Thank you very much for your time
Latersville

Sincerely,
Jack Diamond
Jack Diamond Music
http://www.jackdiamond.com
http://www.KFJC.org




















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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soon come
Date: 01 Oct 1997 20:34:40 -0400 (EDT)


FYI.
I picked up this list of upcoming releases from the All Music e-mail list:
--Lou

>Various, POP BOUTIQUE VOL. 1--And I quote:  "An incredible selection
>of rare soundtrack tunes!  A must for fans of Vampyros Lesbos & other
>sleazy soundtracks....ultra-cool sounds....With tracks ranging from slow
>stoned grooves to voodoo trance to heavy jazz percussion with some cool-
>ass James Bond-ish torchlight jams [huh??] mixed in for good measure....a
>sophisticated mix of funky smooth jazz that'll make just about anyone
>cream.  So mix up one of those fine-ass martinis, sit back in your sunken
>love pit & enjoy."  (Who says heavy-duty, in-your-face PR is dead?)
>Seriously, this sounds like one to glom onto.  (Glom--isn't that one of the
>ugliest words in the English language?)
>
>The Harvey Comics Collectibles Box Set--deluxe package includes 2
>enhanced CDs ocontaining orig. music from classic Harvey cartoons
>(Casper the Friendly Ghost, et al) plus the cartoons themselves; a glossy
>book chronicling their history; & 5 reprints of Harvey comic books (Casper,
>Richie Rich, Baby Huey).

>Bob Dorough, RIGHT ON MY WAY HOME--new album by jazz hipster,
>featuring standards (Moon River, Spring Can Really Hang You Up the
>Most), jazz tributes (Up Jumped a Bird), original songs and--zowie!--Cab
>Calloway's I Get the Neck of the Chicken.
>
>Francis Lai, 30 ANS DE MUSIQUES DE FILMS 1966-1996--2-CD
>definitive greatest hits collection of this French pop music/film composer
>spanning his career of 3 decades

You can subscribe to this e-mail notification list by contacting:
>Michael Mascioli
>All Music Services
>E-mail: [e-mail]

Not affiliated/not responsible/not insane
-L




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) groovy 60's - 70's
Date: 02 Oct 1997 01:04:21 -0400 (EDT)


kevin king sez:

<< Peter Thomas' Space Patrol sndtrk >>

I can't find this CD!  Can someone help me?  I've tried many of the usual
sources on the WWW and have had no luck.

thank you!





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From: Magnus Sandberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) groovy 60's - 70's
Date: 02 Oct 1997 10:55:14 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> kevin king sez:
>
> << Peter Thomas' Space Patrol sndtrk >>
>
> I can't find this CD!  Can someone help me?  I've tried many of the
> usual
> sources on the WWW and have had no luck.
>
> thank you!

Maybe others are interrested.

I┤m not sure if they sell from the web, but "Bungalow" has a page on it.
Looks wonderful...

http://www.snafu.de/lhi/bungalow/peter/peter.html



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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Bosworth?
Date: 02 Oct 1997 10:53:25 +-200


I've got quite a few Happy Records releases. They are generally =
excellent. The Werner Drexlers are all wonderfull and feature mostly =
original compositions with hardly any cover versions. A few of the =
Werner Drexler releases feature guitarist Siegfried Schwab from none =
other than Vampyros Lesbos fame (he composed and arranged all of it with =
Manfred Hubler. Another late seventies label that is sister to Happy =
Records is Golden Ring Records. It features people like Frank Pleyer, =
Ralph Marco and Frank Mantis.=20

There must have been quite a scene, because all these people composed =
and played on each other's releases. This music is so fresh and original =
and of such a high standard I cannot understand why it isn't more =
famous!! My only connection is the Vampyros Lesbos. If anybody knows =
more please let me know!!

Another favourite of mine is Bob Kayser's Marimba Band. Also on Happy =
Records, it features the same slick production, over simplistic cover =
(if you see these records in a thrift shop, chances are you won't buy =
it, for the covers consist mostly of background colour and font!), and =
cross section of unknown musicians...

Then there is Intersound. Another German label that gets me curious. Not =
all their releases are that good but some are of the same high standard =
as the Happy Records stuff. Etienne Capp and Kookie Freeman and =
Orchestras being good examples. One particularly strange Intersound =
release is Plastic Zoo by Harry Winkler. It is a bizarre concoction of =
what sounds like early sampling (all animal sounds) or electronically =
recreated animal sounds, and easy funk. I have no release date, but =
guess late seventies. The cover features a plastic dolphin with bow tie =
and top hat. Musicians featured are: The Baa Lambs, Bahama Llama, Billy =
Goat, Blue Gnu, Clarabella Cow, Rocky Cock etc.=20

I unwillingly think back to the Matterhorn Project's Moo Song....

Please don't throw stones

Charl


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From: "Joseph O. Holmes" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Now's the Time to Shop...
Date: 02 Oct 1997 14:12:33 -0400


Exoticats in the New York area, now's the time to stop by Holy Cow
Records in Brooklyn, on the corner of Ninth St. and Seventh Avenue, steps
from the Seventh Avenue stop on the F train. Owner Steve Spain (who DJ's
the 999999s on Saturday nights) has been hit hard by the lengthy
construction project on Ninth St. so business is really slow. That means
lots of stock -- vinyl and CD including lots of classic lounge, etc.

On a not-totally-unrelated note, I just picked up Pizacatto 5's newest CD
at Holy Cow and I'm hooked on track 13, Happy Endings, a completely
addictive cut. Who can recommend the best of earlier P5?

-=-Joe


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) See Larry for Yourself
Date: 02 Oct 1997 15:08:33 -0400


Thanks to Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr and his scanner, you can all experience Larry
Ferrari for yourselves (and maybe understand why this thread has been a little
like therapy for me).

Let me set the mood.

You're a youngster. It's Sunday, and you're stuck at your grandparents' house.
No other kids to play with -- nothing but grownups. And you don't have your
toys, so you're getting mighty bored. Still, hope springs eternal -- maybe you
can watch some cartoons on the TV! But as you approach the living room, you
hear syrupy organ music. And as you enter the room, you look at the screen and
see...

http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/larry.html

I think this is younger Larry from the 50's. I seem to recall him looking a bit
older in the late 60's / early 70's era. Not quite as smooth-skinned as he
appears here. The image comes from a postcard in Ross' possession, produced in
1991 by Quantity Postcards. Although we think they probably pirated the image
themselves (they refer to him as "Larry Lamborghini", for one), they do have a
copyright symbol slapped on it. So we'll be nice and list their address here.

Quantity Postcards
1441 Grant Street
San Fransisco CA 94133

m.ace
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From: Marcus Kozica <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Forbidden Chemistry
Date: 02 Oct 1997 13:01:14 -0400


Dear Friends,

There is a band called The Chemical Brothers and I Just heard one
of their tracks; Elektrobank (Dust Brothers Remix), from a CD
with the same name.

Now, it features a sample from Taboo, either from Robert Drasnin
or Warren Barker I think, can't remember (almost all of my records
are in the-not-so-verry-sunny-Sweden.)

Ashley - yobehindis?

(It has a '97 Cheescake cover too - woman under water.)


And another thing. I have a record by the Polynesians on Crown,
I think it has the same photo on the cover as Exotica Suite by Denny.
Same story here, I don't have'm in front of me.
Any truth in this?

Aloha daa. (Makes more sense if you're speaking swedish.)


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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Unknown Bas Sheva 45?
Date: 02 Oct 1997 19:42:04 -0400


I just found this radio station promo 45 for two Bas Sheva songs (no Les
Baxter involvement, BTW) I've never heard of. One is "Flame of Love" and the
other is "I Just Wanna Be Your Lovin' Baby." They're not as far out as "The
Passions," but it's kind of neat to hear Bas sing actual words. ^_- Anyone
ever see this one?

Thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^

PS--I got the man from uncle soundtrack, too! Yay!!



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) George Cates
Date: 02 Oct 1997 23:14:28 -0400 (EDT)


Magnus sez:
"I have listened alot to hawaiian LPs for a while now. Bought 47 for
nothing. Some are wonderful, and especially one was a nice surprise.
"Hawaii by George Cates". Really good. Anybody have any info on him?"

I have an album by George Cates called Polynesian Percussion which is one of
my all-time favorites. Great arrangements of classic tunes, lots of nutty
percussion and those eerie female vocals from a group of gals let by none
other than Norma Zimmer, of Lawrence Welk fame.  George was Welks musical
director for a time, I believe, and if you start perusing the many releases
on the Dot label by Welk, Myron Floren and so on, you'll see a lot of
arrangement and production credits in his name.  I'd love to find more of his
rcords, that's for sure.


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From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) Japan wants your smelly Nikes
Date: 03 Oct 1997 17:15:37 GMT


As a follow-up to a recent thread:
-L
>
>    COLUMBUS, Ohio, Oct. 2 (UPI) -- Small Earth Inc. wants your old Nike
>shoes and its willing to pay big bucks regardless of style, size or even
>odor.
>    The co-owners of the Grand Rapids, Mich., company are in Ohio through
>the weekend -- the sixth stop this year in their quest for vintage Nike
>footwear.
>    Chuck Vander Hoek today says he and co-owner Andrew Drasiewski will
>pay up to $600 for 1985-91 Air Jordans, 1984-86 Terminators and Dunks,
>and the 1985 Air Max Runner.
>    He says the value is in the style, size and condition; the rarer the
>sneaker, the higher the price he will pay. In fact, he's willing to pay
>up to $1,500 for the ``super-rare'' ones.
>    Vander Hoek says Japanese importers are willing to pay twice what
>Small Earth buys the shoes for, and then sells the shoes in Japan for a
>profit. The demand is skyrocketing, with Small Earth shipping sneakers
>to Japan three times a week.
>    Vander Hoek said, ``I guess they (Japanese consumers) express
>personal identity through, at least in part, footwear. The Jordans and
>the Terminators have gained collectable and classic status in Japan.''
>    Nike shoes from the 1990s and late 1980s don't have the same appeal.
>





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From: [e-mail] (Ingemar Breithel)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Now's the Time to Shop...
Date: 03 Oct 1997 19:49:40 +0100


>On a not-totally-unrelated note, I just picked up Pizacatto 5's newest CD
>at Holy Cow and I'm hooked on track 13, Happy Endings, a completely
>addictive cut. Who can recommend the best of earlier P5?

Go for "Couples" from 1987: "a collection of some Bacharach-ish
syncopations" is the apt description on the cover. Great, timeless pop
songs from beginning to end, unlike most of their later work, which,
in my opinion, tends to be a bit boring.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Time reissued
Date: 02 Oct 1997 19:50:32 +0200


>Any one got a contact adress, fax, e-mail for Time Records?

    <http://www.timeinc.com/>






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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Pizzicato 5
Date: 03 Oct 1997 14:58:44 +0000



> >On a not-totally-unrelated note, I just picked up Pizacatto 5's newest CD
> >at Holy Cow and I'm hooked on track 13, Happy Endings, a completely
> >addictive cut. Who can recommend the best of earlier P5

I agree with Ingemar on Couples..  it's great, but very different
(sweetly low-key) from their current pop hits.  (and you might find
it surprisingly dull if you're heavily into the latter)  Beware of
randomly buying their product as I understand much of it is
repackaged or remixed old material....  and pricey.  I have This
Year's Girl and would highly recommend it.  It's similar to Made in
USA with which it shares a few songs, but is a much better, solid
collection.  Lots of samples, funky beats and very fun.



kevin king
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Urban Crime in Borneo
Date: 03 Oct 1997 15:11:55 -0400


Listening to the Cal Tjader / Lalo Schifrin album, "Several Shades Of Jade"
(1963), it suddenly hit me that the Schifrin-penned track, "Borneo" is a strong
prototype for the late 60's / early 70's urban crime & blaxploitation movie
theme school. With the steady cowbell and lurching piano bassline, with
occasional colorful outbursts over top, it really draws up the blueprint for
that later style. The only element it lacks is the wacka-chaka guitar. Of
course, I shouldn't be surprised -- Schifrin is involved on both ends of the
string, so to speak -- but I was just struck with what a strong foreshadowing
it is. Are there more early examples?

While on the subject of Mr. Schifrin...

Jessica wrote:
> Mission: Impossible--This is a really fantastic soundtrack, and all but
> one of the tracks KILL. You know how some soundtracks only have
> one or two good cuts. Well this one is 99.9% great. And this copy is
> really really nice. There was a dead spider smashed on the record
> (ew!), but it came off OK and didn't leave a stain. Oh, and there's
> sitar on one cut, "The Sniper"

Is this DOT LP 25831? If it is, I got a cd re-ish of it a few weeks ago. I
haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but it's one I'm really looking
forward to. Especially after reading this. The cd also has 3 bonus tracks from
"More Mission: Impossible".
"The Sniper" has a credit noting, "Harpsichord - Lalo Schifrin; Sitar - Bill
Plummer." The harpsichord; now there's a favorite instrument of mine that
doesn't get mentioned much here. Weren't harpsichords kind of "in" for a while
there in the 60's on into the early 70's (that's 1960's, not 1760's)?

m.ace
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Urban Crime in Borneo
Date: 03 Oct 1997 13:28:43 -0800


>"The Sniper" has a credit noting, "Harpsichord - Lalo Schifrin; Sitar - Bill
>Plummer." The harpsichord; now there's a favorite instrument of mine that
>doesn't get mentioned much here. Weren't harpsichords kind of "in" for a
>while
>there in the 60's on into the early 70's (that's 1960's, not 1760's)?
>

Also in this era one hears a lot of 'electric harpsichord'.  Is anyone
familiar with that instrument?  It sounds similar to the Hohner clavinet
--
are they the same thing?  Anyhow, one album that comes to mind which uses
it prominently is Neal Hefti's 'Odd Couple' soundtrack.

If there are any musician types here who have samples of the electric
harpsichord that they'd be willing to share, I'd be very interested...

thanks,

-Brian

another favorite in the (real) harpsichord category:  Mancini's 'Combo',
featuring Johnny Williams.


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From: [e-mail] (Ingemar Breithel)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Christian Marclay
Date: 03 Oct 1997 22:47:02 +0100


>On a related note, Christian Marclay's CD "records" is a fascinating
>avant-garde collection of turntable scratching and sound collage made between
>1981 and  1989. It sometimes qualifies as "musique concrete" and is on the
>annoying edge for some (my wife)  but  I find it very engaging.
>Most appropriate quote from the liner notes: "Thrift stores are often a
>better place to find music than any record shop".
>I particularly enjoy the irony of putting these works, which are very much
>about the physical nature of vinyl records themselves, onto a cd (one of his
>early releases was a record which came  without a sleeve or jacket so that it
>would change as it got dirty and scratched).

Several of Christian Marclay's records are pictured in a very wonderful
book called "Broken Music", which catalogs artists' records from the
Dadaists and onwards. For quite some time I've been most curious about
his record "More Encores: Christian Marclay plays with the records of Louis
Armstrong, Jane Birkin & Serge Gainsbourg, John Cage, Maria Callas, Frederic
Chopin, Martin Denny, Ferrante & Teicher, Fred Frith, Jimi Hendrix, Christian
Marclay, Johann Strauss, John Zorn". Is this on the CD? Label and catalog
number, please?

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) harpsicord, schmarpsichord
Date: 03 Oct 1997 14:13:24 -0700


>Also in this era one hears a lot of 'electric harpsichord.  Is anyone
>familiar with that instrument?  It sounds similar to the Hohner clavinet

I always thought that the "electric harpsichord" was used in The Ipcress
File by John Barry BUT NOOOOOOOOOO, it's the clavinet too, which is stuck
by mallets making it yet another cool PERCUSSIVE instrument

Jack


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Cult Fiction
Date: 03 Oct 1997 17:36:35 -0400 (EDT)


Has anyone heard the new Brit double CD called "Cult Fiction"? It is loaded
with TV and movie themes--most of which I don't know or haven't heard due to
the fact that they are all English (practically)... If so I would appreciate
some commentary from these parts before dropping the $32. being asked by my
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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Urban Crime in Borneo
Date: 03 Oct 1997 21:41:02 -0400


Brian wrote:
>Also in this era one hears a lot of 'electric harpsichord'.  Is anyone
>familiar with that instrument?  It sounds similar to the Hohner clavinet
>--
>are they the same thing?  Anyhow, one album that comes to mind which uses
>it prominently is Neal Hefti's 'Odd Couple' soundtrack.

The electric harpsichord was made by the Baldwin piano company and marketed
during the early and mid 60's. It was a fairly large keyboard, resembling a
real harpsichord (or small grand piano), probably about 3 or 4 feet long to
accommodate the strings which were plucked.

The Hohner Clavinet, which made its debut in '66 or '67, utilized the same
principal, but the strings are under the keyboard, making the thing the
size of a compact organ. It has 2 pickups that can be switched like those
on an electric guitar. The clavinet has a cloth in it that dampens the
strings, the amount of which can be controlled. The clavinet was used on
"The Odd Couple" theme and the theme to "In Like Flint". Funk fans know
that the clavinet is played through a wah-wah pedal more often than not. It
runs on a 9V battery.

Jack noted "The Ipcress File" theme. I believe that's an autoharp (which
Mancini used on "Experiment In Terror") or one of it's dulcimer cousins
(maybe it's the cymbalum that's mentioned in the liner notes).

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Speaking of harpsichord
Date: 04 Oct 1997 00:51:31 -0400 (EDT)


Let us not forget one of the GREAT tunes of all time, (w/ or w/out than noble
instrument) featuring a harpsichord lead:   DELICADO by Percy Faith @ Orch


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme
Date: 04 Oct 1997 00:58:59 -0400 (EDT)


Does it bother anyone besides me that the "new" version of the M.I. theme
changes to 4/4 time after the intro (in 5/4)?  The original was 5/4
throughout, as I recall.  I think this change represents another example of
the "dumbing down" of our culture and sounds really CHEESY.
Maybe I'm just working too hard lately................
Chuck
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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Baroque
Date: 03 Oct 1997 22:24:55 +-200


Indeed harpsichords were big circa late 60's early 70's. A lot of easy =
from the time uses it and easy versions of Baroque era classics were =
frequently covered. The French thing was fitting in nicely too with =
Sergei Gainsbourg's Jetaime and the Paul Mauriat/Frank Pourcel stable. =
More detail on this to be found in Joseph Lanza's book Elevator Music. =
Recommended reading!

Charl


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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Funky Sitar Man
Date: 04 Oct 1997 16:26:55 +0000


Hi all -

I'm currently getting my head messed with by this happenin new
release from Ravi Harris & The Prophets and I'm surprised no-one else
has mentioned this here before - surely I can't be the first?!?

This is a fine collection of James Brown and Meters covers (plus a
Manu Dibango cover ("Soul Makossa") and a few originals) from Bill
"Ravi" Harris in a sitar stylee (with solid bass, drums, organ
backing).  Don't know when these recordings were made but apparently:
"with newly wed Gina Harris on organ, Ravi Harris and the Prophets'
were soon gigging regularly around the Bay Area coffee houses and
hotel lounges" so I imagine some of our CA correspondents must have
come across this lot before.

It's out here in the UK on LP/CD on Barely Breaking Even (BBELP002),
contact address: [e-mail].

Stand out track for me is the "Gimme Some More/Hot Pants Medley"
but there are plenty of seriously funky sitar tracks to choose
from - you need this album!

This has been a public service announcement.


Robbie

** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** **
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme
Date: 04 Oct 1997 08:45:58 -0700 (PDT)


At 12:58 AM 10/4/97 -0400, Chuck wrote:
>Does it bother anyone besides me that the "new" version of the M.I. theme
>changes to 4/4 time after the intro (in 5/4)?  The original was 5/4
>throughout, as I recall.
I totally agree!  I think it may have more to do with the possibility for the
"dance" market than anything else.  I just don't think Americans know how to
dance to 5/4. (well, I don't.  Then again, I don't even know how to dance to
3/4).
I've noticed that film making these days is not about the actual film, but
about marketability....everything from broadcast rights to overseas
distribution to merchandise.
The soundtrack that bothered me was the last James Bond.  No John Barry!
However, Mr. Barry did score the new Brad Pitt movie and that alone will be
worth the price of admission.  The landscape and the general concept of the
movie also appeals to me.

Byron Caloz
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Harpsichords, etc.
Date: 04 Oct 1997 14:12:33 -0400


Many thanks to Br. Cleve for the electric harpsichord and clavinet information.
You saved me a (possibly fruitless) websearch there.

I would imagine the popularity of these keyboards in that 60's era was a simple
function of recording artists seeking out new sounds from new instruments.

Another album with harpsichord is Lawrence Welk's "Calcutta!" (DOT DLP 3359).
"The smash hit single leads a parade of instrumental hits," they say. Also,
"Featuring Frank Scott at the harpsichord." And tying into Dave HiFi's post a
couple of days ago, George Cates is listed as one of the (7) arrangers. The
tracks include the ever-popular "Perfidia" and "April In Portugal", but to my
ears, it's all a little too clean and brittle sounding to take in one sitting.
But your results may vary.

m.ace
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme
Date: 04 Oct 1997 14:17:33 -0400


> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme
>
> Does it bother anyone besides me that the "new" version of the M.I. theme
> changes to 4/4 time after the intro (in 5/4)?  The original was 5/4

Now that I KNOW about it, it bothers me.

And following Byron's mention of John Barry scoring the new Brad Pitt movie (I
don't know the title either) -- a review of Oliver Stone's "U Turn" mentioned
music by Ennio Morricone. Anyone know what's up there?

m.ace
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Christian Marclay
Date: 04 Oct 1997 16:19:53 -0400


I don't know about the cd status of Christian Marclay's "More Encores", but his
brief "Disc Composition #23" appears on "State Of The Union" (Zoar Records), a
multi-artist compilation lp. He can also be heard interacting with
instrumentalists on two tracks of Meltable Snaps It - "Points Blank" (No Man's
Land / Recommended Records) and on John Zorn's "Cobra" (HatArt) and "Forbidden
Fruit" (Nonesuch).

m.ace
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme, again
Date: 04 Oct 1997 16:46:17 -0400


> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme
>
> Does it bother anyone besides me that the "new" version of the M.I. theme
> changes to 4/4 time after the intro (in 5/4)?  The original was 5/4

What I should've said earlier:

Now that I know about it, it DOES bother me. What's next? "Take Four"?

m.ace
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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme, again
Date: 04 Oct 1997 14:13:14 -0700


m.ace wrote:
>
> > From: [e-mail]
> > Subject: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme
> >
> > Does it bother anyone besides me that the "new" version of the M.I.
> theme
> > changes to 4/4 time after the intro (in 5/4)?  The original was 5/4
>
> What I should've said earlier:
>
> Now that I know about it, it DOES bother me. What's next? "Take Four"?
>


we actually used to do time-signature variations on "take five...."

our favorite was "take seven," though we never really got it down...

another favorite was our version of the old shaker tune "simple gifts"
(also known as the tune from copland's "appalachian spring") which we
really screwed around with... ended up calling it "complicated gifts."

then there was the joke about the drunk guy who asks the cocktail lounge
piano player to play "strangers in the night" in 5/4.... after finally
convincing him to do it, the drunk guy sings along in a slurred
voice..... "strangers in the fuckin' night...."

pea


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cult Friction
Date: 05 Oct 1997 01:50:40 +-200


Has anyone heard the new Brit double CD called "Cult Fiction"? It is =
loaded
with TV and movie themes--most of which I don't know or haven't heard =
due to
the fact that they are all English (practically)... If so I would =
appreciate
some commentary from these parts before dropping the $32. being asked by =
my
local record dealer..Thanks, Jimmy

Personally I find it a fair to good compilation BUT if your reference =
point gets over suspicious and sensitive after 1980, like mine, tread =
carefully. About 10% of it is just tooo up to date for my liking.  I =
would program tracks if the discs get my lazer beamed upon them....

Charl


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Electric Harpsichord
Date: 05 Oct 1997 01:50:23 +-200


I just love the instrument! It really tickles doesn't it. Put to great =
use on my Ju-Par Universal Orchestra's Moods and Grooves album (1976). =
Also love its offbeat on Stevie Wonder's Superstition. In fact I don't =
think I've ever not liked a piece of music that uses it.

Charl


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From: Marcus Kozica <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Now's the Time to Shop... As always!
Date: 04 Oct 1997 16:30:20 -0400


Joseph O. Holmes wrote:

> Exoticats in the New York area, now's the time to stop by Holy Cow
> Records in Brooklyn, on the corner of Ninth St. and Seventh Avenue, steps
> from the Seventh Avenue stop on the F train. Owner Steve Spain (who DJ's
> the 999999s on Saturday nights)

Ohhmigood, Spain sold me a ffrr/London copy of Exotica Vol 2, for $5.
Ain't that cool? Say hello to him from me, please.

And, of course, the 9's kicks ASS. Just __don't__ miss it, I tell you.
See you there.

There is another super store in NY. It's called Mooncurser or something.
It's located in City Island (or was it Island City?) Just north of The
Bronx. Take #6 all the way up and then transfer to bus (#29 I think.)
Get off at Skofio (the bus driver knew the place when I whent there.)

They had:
Age of Electr., Que Mango!, Hawaiian Eye sndtrk, Surfmen: Exotic Isl.,
a bunch of Denny promo 45's, Brazil Now, African Blue, aso.....

I left Experiment In Terror, a copy of Hawaiian Eye sndtrk, some Sumac
and some Denny.

And it was kind of cheap, ~$10 a piece (LP's.)

> Who can recommend the best of earlier P5?

I'ven't heard much but that James Bond track (from "Made in USA")
was popular. Mini skirt whatever.

http://www.matador.recs.com/bands/p5/p5_disc.html

Sweet Dreams,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme, again
Date: 05 Oct 1997 01:26:25 -0400 (EDT)


Speaking of Take 4 and Take 7, anyone remember Billy Cobham's first LP called
Stratus (i think), where he starts off the song "Quadrant Four" (again, I
think) by yelling in the studio, "Everything you always wanted to know about
6"....then launching into the song?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) san francisco records
Date: 05 Oct 1997 12:47:43 -0400 (EDT)


I occasionaly run across these unusual recordings on the small San Francisco
Records label and have yet to be anything less than absolutely thrilled.

Recorded on Kearney Street during the mid-fifties in Bagdad by the Bay.
 Extensive liner notes.  "Incredibly Strange" without trying to be and
therein lies the brilliance.  I now have three:

Bernie Green - PLAYS MORE THAN YOU CAN STAND IN HI-FI
including the Mr. Peepers Theme (Wally Cox TV theme) and Concerto For
Calliope

Guckenheimer Sour Kraut Band - OOM PAH PAH IN HI FI
Fritz Guckenheimer leads the "nine men against the musical world".  Fritz is
Richard Gump, musician, art dealer, composer and painter.  Yes, the same
Richard Gump of Gump's - the Union Square store where you can easily plunk
down $5000 for a vase.

RAZZ-MA-TAZZ IN HI-FI
Nickelodeon Music taken from the collection of George Whitney, owner of
Playland-At-The-Beach.  All music is produced by automatic musical
instruments.  Off key, fast, furious and very funny - the juke boxes of the
good old days.  The liner notes warn that "if you don't like what you hear
you are probably an intellectual or a progressive jazz enthusiast.  Of course
there is nothing wrong with being either of these - but it may help if you
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From: [e-mail] (Ingemar Breithel)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Christian Marclay
Date: 05 Oct 1997 21:43:21 +0100


>For quite some time I've been most curious about
>his record "More Encores: Christian Marclay plays with the records of Louis
>Armstrong, Jane Birkin & Serge Gainsbourg, John Cage, Maria Callas, Frederic
>Chopin, Martin Denny, Ferrante & Teicher, Fred Frith, Jimi Hendrix, Christian
>Marclay, Johann Strauss, John Zorn". Is this on the CD? Label and catalog
>number, please?

To answer my own posting here, it seems that ReR/Recommended Records
have just reissued "More Encores" for the first time on CD, eulogized by
Thurston Moore to boot.

And here's a description from http://www.music.ch/recrec/artist/
marclay.html:

"Christian Marclay whose business card reads 'record player' - what an
understatement to say the least! - may be better described as a sound
sculptor or a dada D.J. His art consists in manipulating vinyls in many
unorthodox ways, for example cutting the records up into 'pie slices' and
then glueing the pieces together, rearranging the compositions."

I wouldn't do this to *my* Martin Denny or Fred Frith records, though...

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mmm, Nice!
Date: 05 Oct 1997 16:32:32 -0700 (PDT)


I encountered some LPs others on this list have recommended (some, by the
way, I had earlier skipped over but was 'suaded to try this time) and was
pleased with my purchase.

The Genius of Jankowski!  Mercury.  Some of the tunes weren't my cup of tea
but "When the Girls Go Marching In" was so inventive and funny, I didn't
mind the other less interesting cuts.  I wonder what Jankowski was thinking
of when he did that one particular cut (WtGGMI)?!  I thought it sounded a
bit kinky, myself.  I must get a stereo version of this (mine was mono).

Mmm, Nice! RCA LSP-2117  More chorus...sometimes very inventive, sometimes
not so.  Just like I found with the Jankowski LP, the original cuts (as in
the title selection) were more interesting than the arrangements of
standards.  The cover was a bit abused, but I'm glad to have the album.

Ebb Tide  Earl Grant  Decca.  Actually I had a stereo copy of this that was
very noisy from whence I learned how inventive his arrangements are.  This
copy was meant to replace that one because the vinyl and cover were in much
better condition, alas it was in mono.  I had avoided even listening to the
stereo copy because I had assumed it was too e-z for me...but not true!!  I
guess it was the all too serene cover which fooled me.

Music for Dancing  The Merlin Trio  Grand Prix.  There is no info about this
group, but they sound like Three Suns copycats, which is okay because the
more Three Suns there are the better!  Merlin is not quite as interesting as
the Suns, but its music does not just lie there either.  Accordian,
amplified guitar and electric organ.


Of course, I found some duds, too:

All the French Hits  Kurt Maier  Rondo.  I was suspicious, but the record
was in good shape and the cover was great (DeeDee Woods, who ever that is).
Turns out to be a badly recorded  classical pianist with a high school
drummer.  Many of the songs did not even end properly (the tape ran out?).

The Heart of Hawaii (various) GNP.  This record was only useful in that I
learned what GNP stands for: Gene Norman Presents.  Ray Kinney's vocals
harken back to bad crooning from the 1920's.


Byron Caloz




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Davie Allan in SF
Date: 06 Oct 1997 02:35:17 -0400 (EDT)


Davie will be playing
Thurs, Oct 16 at Chameleon at 853 Valencia near 20th in the Mission District.

Doors at 9
Neanderdolls (a new girl garage band) will open and play at about 9:15
Davie will go on at about 10:30
price is $5.00
This is a Tiki News Magazine show


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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) George Cates
Date: 06 Oct 1997 06:23:33


>Magnus wrote:

>"I have listened alot to hawaiian LPs for a while now. Bought 47 for
>nothing. Some are wonderful, and especially one was a nice surprise.
>"Hawaii by George Cates". Really good. Anybody have any info on him?"

From his page on the Space Age Pop Standards website:

>http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/cates.htm>
George Cates

Born 19 October 1911, New York City, New York

     Lawrence Welk's musical right-hand man for over 25 years, Cates was a
bald,
     goateed, beatnik-looking guy who occasionally strayed from the
straight and dull
     path of "champagne music" to create some strange and irreverent
sounds. His
     album "Polynesian Percussion" features cool instrumental work by
brothers-in-law
     Alvino Rey and Buddy Cole on console guitar and "Novachord" (an early
electronic
     organ), as well as the requisite 15-plus strange percussion
instruments. Perhaps
     Cates was never quite able to shake off the experience of working with
the
     slapstick vaudeville comedy team of Olsen and Johnson on their
legendary revue,
     "Hellzapoppin," after his graduation from New York University.

     Most of his recordings and much of his work with Welk is, to belie the
title of one of
     his own albums, not the least bit "Exciting." Cates began vectoring
down a path of
     sweet bands to Welk's, arranging and playing saxophone with Henry
Busse, Dick
     Stabile, and Russ Morgan between 1945 and 1951. He served as A&R director
     for Coral Records in the mid-1950s, and wrote and conducted for the
label's stars,
     including Teresa Brewer, the Andrews Sisters, Bing Crosby, and Danny
Kaye.
     During this time, he hit the Top 40 charts with his cover of
"Moonglow/Theme from
     'Picnic'," which included wordless vocal effects by long-time Welk
star Norma
     Zimmer. Cates also composed "Champagne Time," the tune Welk used as his
     theme song after leaving the ABC network for syndication in 1971.

     Recordings

          Under European Skies, Coral 57126
          Exciting, Coral 57220
          Polynesian Percussion, Dot DLP 25355
          Hit Songs--Hit Sounds, Dot DLP 25564
          Great Hit Sounds, Hamilton 12127


Brad Bigelow
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme
Date: 06 Oct 1997 12:00:09 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-04 12:01:19 EDT, you write:

<< I totally agree!  I think it may have more to do with the possibility for
the
 "dance" market than anything else.  I just don't think Americans know how to
 dance to 5/4. (well, I don't.  Then again, I don't even know how to dance to
 3/4).
  >>
Hello Byron and all-
I've played in dance bands for almost 40 years and I can assure you that the
vast majority of people will dance to ANYTHING if the music's loud enough.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme, again
Date: 06 Oct 1997 12:04:29 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-04 17:13:42 EDT, you write:

<< we actually used to do time-signature variations on "take five...."

 our favorite was "take seven," though we never really got it down...

 another favorite was our version of the old shaker tune "simple gifts"
 (also known as the tune from copland's "appalachian spring") which we
 really screwed around with... ended up calling it "complicated gifts."

 then there was the joke about the drunk guy who asks the cocktail lounge
 piano player to play "strangers in the night" in 5/4.... after finally
 convincing him to do it, the drunk guy sings along in a slurred
 voice..... "strangers in the fuckin' night...."
  >>
Or, how about the old tried-and-true method of teaching 5/4 time to music
students......
(sung) " Life is just a bowl of goddamn cherries"

C


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From: Marcus Kozica <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Now's the Time to Shop... As always!
Date: 05 Oct 1997 16:45:09 -0400


Joseph O. Holmes wrote:

> Exoticats in the New York area, now's the time to stop by Holy Cow
> Records in Brooklyn, on the corner of Ninth St. and Seventh Avenue, steps
> from the Seventh Avenue stop on the F train. Owner Steve Spain (who DJ's
> the 999999s on Saturday nights)

Ohhmigood, Spain sold me a ffrr/London copy of Exotica Vol 2, for $5.
Ain't that cool? Say hello to him from me, please.

And, of course, the 9's kicks ASS. Just __don't__ miss it, I tell you.
See you there.

There is another super store in NY. It's called Mooncurser or something.
It's located in City Island (or was it Island City?) Just north of The
Bronx. Take #6 all the way up and then transfer to bus (#29 I think.)
Get off at Skofio (the bus driver knew the place when I whent there.)

They had:
Age of Electr., Que Mango!, Hawaiian Eye sndtrk, Surfmen: Exotic Isl.,
a bunch of Denny promo 45's, Brazil Now, African Blue, aso.....

I left Experiment In Terror, a copy of Hawaiian Eye sndtrk, some Sumac
and some Denny.

And it was kind of cheap, ~$10 a piece (LP's.)

> Who can recommend the best of earlier P5?

I'ven't heard much but that James Bond track (from "Made in USA")
was popular. Mini skirt whatever.

http://www.matador.recs.com/bands/p5/p5_disc.html

Sweet Dreams,
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lenny Dee with a Tattoo
Date: 05 Oct 1997 19:06:37 -0700


Someone was asking me about a Lenny Dee rekkid and cover that has Lenny
pictured with a tattoo

I've got it right here

Pls e-mail me off list

Thx,

Jack


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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mission Impossible theme, again
Date: 06 Oct 1997 12:21:42 +0000



> << we actually used to do time-signature variations on "take five...."
>
>  our favorite was "take seven," though we never really got it down...

dunno if anyone's mentioned Emil Richards yet, but his Lp New Time
Element has odd metered versions of a variety of favorites, including
a 4/4 Take Five thrown in "for laughs."   Georgy Girl in 5/4; Girl
Talk in 11/8; Call Me in 7/8; Happy Together in 15/8; Hava Nagilah in
7/8....  well, you get the idea.  Great record!



kevin king
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new Axtion Plus cd
Date: 06 Oct 1997 17:12:14 +0200


there's a new Action Plus CD out, called "Wanderlust" (on Nocturnal Love
Feast Music). Anyone would like to comment on it, compare it with the
previous cd?

thanx,

        Johan
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sounds For Little Ones
Date: 06 Oct 1997 12:09:12 -0700


Field Recording of electro-mechanical rides and such

Excellent if you like that sort of thing like Ford does;-)

E-Mail [e-mail] and tell 'em Jack Diamond from KFJC sent you

Later,
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From: Vik Trola <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) new Axtion Plus cd
Date: 06 Oct 1997 15:19:36 -0500


>there's a new Action Plus CD out, called "Wanderlust" (on Nocturnal Love

less quirky and more mature. carries on the fine tradition of exceptional
songwriting and vocals. production is better. overall, a bit darker than
the first with a slight hint of oregano. i am currently listening to it at
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From: Ariel Tagar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Indian Vibes
Date: 07 Oct 1997 00:00:35 +0300 (IDT)


Can someone tell me where can I get that groovey sitar track?
I dont know if thats the track's name (indian vibes) or the group's
name, anyway its nowhere to be found around here and I really want
it.
Ariel
The EASY PAGE, Easy listening and lounge culture.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/3076
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Around the World
Date: 06 Oct 1997 18:45:20 +0000 (HELP)



Hi, my name is Keir, and I've been lurking for some time.  One of
my favourite 60s groovy go-go songs has got to be Astrud Gilberto's
"Canto de Ossahno", from _September 17, 1969_ (Verve).  But
the real reason I'm posting for the first time is that I'm doing
an article on "Around the World" theme LPs - you know the kind, we
all own dozens of 'em.  I'd like to know what the oldest Around
the World album you own is, and I'm especially interested in
knowing if anyone has seen any pre-1948, 78 RPM albums organized
around the theme of "a musical tour around the world..."?

From BossaNovaVille,
Keir


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Indian Vibes
Date: 07 Oct 1997 00:17:01 +-200




----------
Sent:     07 October 1997 02:00

you wrote....
Can someone tell me where can I get that groovey sitar track?
I dont know if thats the track's name (indian vibes) or the group's
name, anyway its nowhere to be found around here and I really want=20
it.
Ariel

Try 'within you without you' by the Soulful Flutes. Or maybe anything by =
Bulsara (not Freddy Mercury!) and his singing sitars. Also some stuff =
off the Vampyros Lesbos CD. Or maybe Lord Sitar on the Sound Gallery??? =
Tell us more........

Charl


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From: [e-mail] (R.Preston Peek)
Subject: (exotica) E/E Issue 10; VINYL LIVES! goes ON-LINE
Date: 06 Oct 1997 20:49:06 -0400


Just A Quick Word Part I--Issue 10 of Exotica/Et Cetera is out.  Comedy
collector Rev. Warren Debenham discusses the Holy and the Hilarious; yours
truly takes you along on a dismal travelogue while "Hot On The Trail of
Mexican Vinyl;" Br. Cleve delivers the exclusive word in his Esquivel!
Page; reviews, cover galleries, and more.  As usual, more than 500 select
LPs, including Kali Bahlu, Sabu's Sorcery, Portrait of Leda, Skin Diver
Suite, Ruth Wallis, Howl, The Passions, Introspection IV, Music to Sell
Bread By. Perrey & Kingsley, Black Caesar, Satan in High Heels, and way
more.  $3 mailed to your door; e-mail with snail mail.

Just A Quick Word Part II--VINYL LIVES! is now ON-LINE. The first wave
consists of 1,400 prime LPs, with more on the way. Lists are easy and fun
to read, arranged in nine convenient categories:  jazz/vocals, blues/folk,
rock, exotica, mondo/weird, cheesecake, personalities, comedy, soundtracks.
Plus more than 200 color covers.  It's the closest thing you can get to
flipping through a rack of records without going to a record store.

www.vinyllives.com

See you there, and thanks for the bytes.

Preston




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sounds For Little Ones
Date: 06 Oct 1997 21:39:01 -0400 (EDT)


<< Field Recording of electro-mechanical rides and such

 Excellent if you like that sort of thing like Ford does;-)

 E-Mail [e-mail] and tell 'em Jack Diamond from KFJC sent you

Thanks for the information, Jack.  Yes, this is right up my alley - i wonder
if it was recorded at Children's Fairyland.  I'll never forget the dragon.

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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Around the World
Date: 07 Oct 1997 10:53:42 +-200


Well there is Lenny Dee's 'The Lenny Dee Tour' on Decca and there is =
Bert Kaempfert's 'A new sound captures the world' ......The first two =
that spring to mind.

Charl


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Forbidden Chemistry
Date: 07 Oct 1997 08:25:49 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-02 15:16:44 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

>There is a band called The Chemical Brothers and I Just heard one
>of their tracks; Elektrobank (Dust Brothers Remix), from a CD
>with the same name.
>
>Now, it features a sample from Taboo, either from Robert Drasnin
>or Warren Barker I think, can't remember (almost all of my records
>are in the-not-so-verry-sunny-Sweden.)
>
>Ashley - yobehindis?
>
>
 Sorry for the delay....yes that is a sample of "Taboo" although I can't
place which version. While I have never met the Dust Bros. their love of
exotica is quite apparent as a very prevelant sample of Martin Denny's
"Cobra" (from the "Forbidden Isalnd" album) appears on their remix of Sukia's
"Dream Machine" (only on 12").  By the way, I know for a fact that the
Chemical Bros.  own several of the Scamp Martin Denny CDs


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From: Marcus Kozica <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Forbidden Chemistry
Date: 07 Oct 1997 12:40:25 -0400


Ashley wrote:
> By the way, I know for a fact that the Chemical Bros.
> own several of the Scamp Martin Denny CDs

Scamp kicks the ass of the holy cow.

I was hunting around Hollywood a while ago for y'all
know what... I scored the Out Of The Moon 10" and the
sales peron said that they sold another copy to the
singer in _The B52:s_!!!???? a week ago or so.

So if any of you are about to do an interview w/
Dolly Parton, Michael Jackson, no...... just kidding.

I also heard some bird calls on a track called The
Brothers Gonna Work It Out.

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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Forbidden
Date: 07 Oct 1997 18:52:18 +-200


I also heard some bird calls on a track called The
Brothers Gonna Work It Out.

The track is called 'Leave Home' and also features samples of Kraftwerk =
and Fun Fun. Now sampling Martin Denny does not justify sampling Fun =
Fun....

Charl


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Forbidden Chemistry
Date: 07 Oct 1997 18:46:31 +-200




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Sent:     07 October 1997 10:25
Cc:     [e-mail]

Now let's hope those Martin Denny CD's have a positive effect on the =
next Chemical Bros album cause the latest one has almost no melodies and =
very little arrangements or real instruments...

Charl


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) new Axtion Plus cd
Date: 07 Oct 1997 08:36:25 -1000


Vik Trola wrote:
>
> >there's a new Action Plus CD out, called "Wanderlust" (on Nocturnal Love
>
> less quirky and more mature. carries on the fine tradition of exceptional
> songwriting and vocals. production is better. overall, a bit darker than
> the first with a slight hint of oregano. i am currently listening to it at
> least once a day...

I second Vik's emotion! Songs of adventure + disappointment that won't
disappoint disaffected space-agers. Serious (sirius), sensuous, and
swellegant songs of pre-millenium angst that wander to and fro between
what's been left behind and where in the world we are now. In today's
heavy rotation of mindless pop smear, hear is relief. Practice safe
listening... wear your Action+ everywhere! Kudos to Ursula + Joe and the
rest of their adventurous band.

Alohadercci,

Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki


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From: Marcus Kozica <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Taboo'd Chemistry
Date: 07 Oct 1997 15:41:29 -0400


Shangri-la wrote:
> Now sampling Martin Denny does not justify....


Well, isn't it kind of cool? It's like subliminal cultural
messages brought out to _a lot_ of people.

AND/OR:

Mebbi bird calls in this version is more on the pharmaceutical edge?
You know, nature made, flying around...

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From: Q <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Spiderman music
Date: 07 Oct 1997 16:45:38 +0000


Does anyone remember the Spiderman cartoon series from the 60's?  I
absolutely loved the show, it was one of my favorite childhood memories.
One of the best things about the show was the music (not just the theme -
all of the music)  I was wondering if anyone else feels the same way.
Boy do I wish I could my hands on that music, is there any possible way I
could?

Q

                                   Quentin Matheson
                                   3D Animator and other stuff
                                   Renaissance Interactive Studios Inc.
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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Taboo'd Chemistry
Date: 07 Oct 1997 23:57:44 +-200


I don't want to be pessimistic, but there is hardly a subliminal =
message. Playing Martin Denny straight at a rave won't work for most =
people. There just is no hope. We are the minority with the special =
knowledge. That is why I don't listen to people like the Chemical Bros =
anymore. Music has taken the wrong turn somewhere in the early 80's =
allready and if the Chemical Bros think they are retro they just havent =
heard Tipsy! If anything that is how it should be done...

Sorry I should stop now...

Charl



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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Taboo'd Chemistry
Date: 07 Oct 1997 19:25:49 +0000


> Sorry I should stop now...

Yes, you should....

Not throwing flames or anything, but I find it a bit distressing to
read posts that dismiss entire genres or eras of pop music...
particularly on this list.   It's as if the whole retro cool thing
necessitates a full swing and anything contemporary is inherently
inferior.  Free your ears...   or at least stop the farcical crusade.

gladly not too 'special' to enjoy a good rave,



kevin king
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From: Emily Kinkopf <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) info exotica
Date: 07 Oct 1997 19:52:03 -0400 (EDT)



Please remove my name and address from this mailing list. I do not wish to
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Subject: (exotica) ADMINISTRIVIA: Admin Goes West (read)
Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:42:49 -0600 (MDT)


Just FYI: I will be (mostly) offline Friday 10/10 through Monday 10/13.
This should only affect you if you are trying to do one of the following
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In other words, if you post something over the weekend and it doesn't show up,
it may have been caught by one of the junk filters on the list and would
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Phuture Lounge Show, Oct. 5
Date: 07 Oct 1997 18:10:05 -0600


Thanks to y'all for such a positive response about my last playlist. This
week's show featured Patrick Pulsinger, producer and label co-head of Cheap
Records in Vienna - a bit more known on the electronica tip, but an interest
dude. So if the show seems a bit strange, there is a lot of electro-lounge
on this one.

Again, the show is 1-4pm, Sunday on 106.2 FM8, Glasgow, Scotland.

AIR "J'ai Dormi Sous L'Eau"
MEL HENKE "The Lively Ones"
CONFIDENTIAL MEMO "From Singapore With Love"
SUKIA "Sukia"
FARMERS MANUEL
MONTEFIORI COCKTAIL "Lazy Busy"
AS ONE "We No Longer Understand"
THE MERRICKS "Die Erde Muss Sich Drehn"
LEONARD NEMOY "Highly Illogical"
MAGIC LADY "Papaya"
SERGIO MENDES & BRASIL 66 "Ye-Me-La"
ROBERTO MENESCAL & SEU CONJUNTO "Surfboard"
ALFA HELIX "Superswitch"
ENOCH LIGHT "Season of the Witch"
THE STUDIO SOUND "Gimme Some More"
PIERO MONTENARI & ROBERTO CORADO "Save Up"
EXCLUSIVE CHEAP RECORDS DUB PLATE
STEREOLAB "Miss Modular"
DJ STUBBLE "Acid Flashback"
MICHAEL BUNDT "The Brain of Oscar Panizza"
JEFF ALEXANDER WITH ALFRED HITCHCOCK "Music to be Murdered By"
CHRISTOPHER KOMEDA "Panic"
JACK COSTANZO & TUBBY HAYES "Baccanale"
HENRY MANCINI "Charade"
DIONNE WARWICKE "Walk On By"
MAEUSE "Der Neunte Platz ist garnich schlecht"
EDU LOBO "Zanzibar"
BRUNO NICOLAI "I Want It All"
SAM & VALLEY "Horn Cattle"
THE MELVINS "Laughing with Lucifer at Satan's Sideshow"
SPACER "Elements of Twist"
LEE HAZLEWOOD "Wait and See"
JULIE LONDON "I Remember You"
ASTRUD GILBERTO "Meditation"
CHRIS MONTEZ "Love is Here to Stay"
THE FREE DESIGN "I'm a Yogi"
SERGE GAINSBOURG & JANE BIRKIN "Je T'Aime"
THE SHOWROOM RECORDINGS SERIES 2 "Radio Burning Chrome"
JIM BACKUS & FRIEND "Delicious"



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From: Eb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Looking for info....
Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:46:39 -0700


I may have asked this before, but if anyone has a track listing (or any
other information) for a Japan-issued Claudine Longet CD called "Sugar Me,"
please email me.

Eb, who admittedly enjoys the Chemical Brothers more than Martin Denny ;)

The Claudine Longet website:
http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/longet.html




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Around the World
Date: 07 Oct 1997 22:22:44 -0400 (EDT)



<< and there is Bert Kaempfert's 'A new sound captures the world' ...... >>

Could someone here please tell me how to pronounce KAEMPFERT?

thanks



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From: LEW <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Spiderman music
Date: 07 Oct 1997 21:00:29 -0700 (PDT)


Yeah, I remember that, and enjoyed it too, but have no clues about where
to find the music.

L


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From: "Brent Clough [phone]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) OTHER WORLDS (AUSTRALIAN RADIO SHOW) OCT. 11
Date: 08 Oct 1997 13:21:58 +1000




        Hi,
         After seeing many of Jack D's playlists and the good-looking
        Phuture Lounge Show list from Glasgow, I thought I'd give you
        an idea of what's turning up this week on Other Worlds
        (broadcast in glorious monophonic) on Radio National, part of
        the Australian Broadcasting Corporation and heard all around
        the country, Saturday nights from 10 - midnight.

        Often it's more straightforwardly 'lounge'/'exotica' but often
        it's not...  (the 'exotic' didn't start and finish with Les,
        Martin, and Arthur, dig?).


        ARTHUR LYMAN 'Taboo Tu'
        SOUL FLUTES 'Trust In Me'
        HENRY MANCINI 'The Patter'
        JOHN BARRY 'And How to Get It'
        ARMANDO TROVAJOLI 'The Plot Thickens'
        I BISAQUEI 'Kalooky'
        ? 'La Leccion/Salvanos' (from TWO MISSIONARIES OST)
        GRUP TANJIDOR KECAMATAN WARU 'Jali Jali'
        SUN RA 'China Gates'
        TAK SHINDO 'Bantu Spear Dance'
        ESQUIVEL 'In a Persian Market'
        DUKE ELLINGTON 'Caravan'
        GRACAN MONCUR 111 'Angela's Angel'
        PEACE BRASS BAND 'Achum'
        BILL LEWIS/KHAN JAMAL 'A Waterfall'
        LE GROUPE ANGKLUNG 'Orak Arik'
        DeJOHNNETTE, ROMAO, GRUNTZ ETC. 'Movement 5'
        KALI TEMPLE BAND 'Coochbehar Kali Music'
        SIMON FISHER TURNER 'Echo/Gong'
        JON HASSELL 'Hex'
        OVAL 'Line Extension'



        http:www.abc.net.au/rn/music/otherw
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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Forbidden Chemistry
Date: 08 Oct 1997 00:10:14 -0400


At 12:40 PM -0400 10/7/97, Marcus Kozica wrote:

>I was hunting around Hollywood a while ago for y'all
>know what... I scored the Out Of The Moon 10" and the
>sales peron said that they sold another copy to the
>singer in _The B52:s_!!!???? a week ago or so.

That would be Fred Schneider. He's been a big exotica fan for years and
years. I remember when I worked in a used record store many years ago -
he's come in and drop a few hundred bucks on LP's (this is while out on
tour), the bulk of which came from the Easy Listening section. And don't
forget, this is back when these albums were being given away at a buck or
two a piece (or less).

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From: David Retief <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Taboo'd Chemistry
Date: 08 Oct 1997 09:41:34 +0200



Emily wrote:
>Please remove my name and address from this mailing list. I do not wish
tobe a part of it anymore.

It was the Chemical Bros stuff, right?




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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Good Kaempfert
Date: 08 Oct 1997 10:12:58 +-200




----------
Sent:     08 October 1997 12:22


Could someone here please tell me how to pronounce KAEMPFERT?

thanks

Isn't it comfortably easy to say...?

Charl



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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: The Prisoner
Date: 06 Oct 1997 20:31:46 +0200


Michael David Toth ([e-mail]) wrote:

>Something else I highly recommend to folks on this list (but not as
>highly as _I Malamondo_ ;-) ) is the second of the three volumes of music
>from _The Prisoner_ TV series.

    what label is that on, please?

    thanx!

        Johan
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From: HATFIELD <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica Digest V2 #271
Date: 08 Oct 1997 14:16:34 -0500 (CDT)







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From: HATFIELD <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Spiderman theme
Date: 08 Oct 1997 14:20:03 -0500 (CDT)



The Ramones covered the spiderman theme on the Saturday Morning Cartoons
album.  I'm not sure if it's the same show that you're looking for, but
it's choice none the less.

Daemon



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Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica Digest V2 #271
Date: 08 Oct 1997 14:16:34 -0500 (CDT)







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From: HATFIELD <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Spiderman theme
Date: 08 Oct 1997 14:20:03 -0500 (CDT)



The Ramones covered the spiderman theme on the Saturday Morning Cartoons
album.  I'm not sure if it's the same show that you're looking for, but
it's choice none the less.

Daemon



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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hello:)
Date: 08 Oct 1997 13:38:21 -0700


I'm back.  Did y'all miss me ?


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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Charl...
Date: 08 Oct 1997 18:26:41 -0400 (EDT)



my dad was a big Kaempfert fan and of Austrian/German decent as
 well and he pronounced it Cam-Fert but i am not sure that is absolutely
 correct....as i always thought Reprise Records was "Reprize Records".

> bump




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Good Kaempfert
Date: 08 Oct 1997 18:33:03 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-08 12:03:00 EDT, [e-mail] (Shangri-la)
wrote:

> Could someone here please tell me how to pronounce KAEMPFERT?
>
>  thanks
>
>  Isn't it comfortably easy to say...?

I would go with KEMP-furt (assuming it's German, the ae gets more of an "e"
kind of sound, and would normally be "an umlaut a").


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: The Prisoner
Date: 08 Oct 1997 16:25:09 -0700


>>Something else I highly recommend to folks on this list (but not as
>>highly as _I Malamondo_ ;-) ) is the second of the three volumes of music
>>from _The Prisoner_ TV series.

I've got Vol 2 of the 3 CD series and I don't think it's that great at all
but that's just me

Jack




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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Har-har-harpsichords!
Date: 09 Oct 1997 01:05:30 +0000


OK, a bit late on this thread but of course there are also:

Enoch Light - Music From Faraway Places I & II

These two LPs make a "feature" out of the harpsichord (played by Dick
Hyman and Billy Rowland) with smile-inducing renditions of "Waltzing
Matilda", "Bali Hai", "Istanbul" and so forth.

Dick Hyman - Happening!

A harpsichord LP on which Dick manages to coax almost organ-like
sounds from the instrument (I kid you not!).  Fabulous versions of
"The In Crowd" and "Michelle".


Robbie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) bert fert
Date: 08 Oct 1997 20:48:51 -0400 (EDT)


thanks to all who assisted me in pronouncing Bert's name correctly.  I had
heard it a couple of different ways and was beginning to wonder.  Like Moog
is really Mogue - that kinda thing.

thanks again!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Good Kaempfert
Date: 08 Oct 1997 21:08:14 -0400 (EDT)


I think it's just: Bert Kempert.

Gloria


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Kaempfert by any other name sound so sweet?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 07:29:54 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-09 02:09:05 EDT, you write:

<<  Could someone here please tell me how to pronounce KAEMPFERT?
 >
 >  thanks
 >
 >  Isn't it comfortably easy to say...?

 I would go with KEMP-furt (assuming it's German, the ae gets more of an "e"
 kind of sound, and would normally be "an umlaut a"). >>

I have always heard it pronounced CAMP-fert.

Then again, I tend to have a better ear for music (v. pronunciations )

Tiki Bob



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Good Kaempfert
Date: 09 Oct 1997 06:55:48 -0600


At 18:33 08/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 97-10-08 12:03:00 EDT, [e-mail] (Shangri-la)
>wrote:
>
>> Could someone here please tell me how to pronounce KAEMPFERT?
>>
>>  thanks
>>
>>  Isn't it comfortably easy to say...?
>
>I would go with KEMP-furt (assuming it's German, the ae gets more of an "e"
>kind of sound, and would normally be "an umlaut a").

Out of all the pronounciations, this one seems the best, but if you know
German, the last part would be Kemp-fairt as the "E" is pronounced like a
long "a" in English. If it were "furt", I believe it would be a "u" instead
of an "e".

But this is not a name that is likely to cause great embarrassment whilst in
Germany as it looks and sounds pretty much the same....

 Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Mogue (or mooooooog)
Date: 09 Oct 1997 09:26:33 -0400 (EDT)




<< >Like Moog is really Mogue
 Are you serious? >>

i'm purty darn sure - almost 100% positive - that's how Robert pronounces his
name i've read and have been told.  let's ask the list





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From: Magnus Sandberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Mogue (or mooooooog)
Date: 09 Oct 1997 15:46:04 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> i'm purty darn sure - almost 100% positive - that's how Robert
> pronounces his
> name i've read and have been told.  let's ask the list
>

  I say moooooooooog, and whatever comes up, I will continue saying it.
It┤s cooooooler.
-----------
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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) mogue/moooog
Date: 09 Oct 1997 07:32:03 PDT


It is moag, mogue, and so on, but the platic cow still goes moooog.

I think it's dutch in origin, and the double "O" in that language is
a long "O" in English. In fact, did you all know that "cole slaw" (
cabbage salad) actually comes from the dutch "kool" (meaning cabbage)
and "sla" (meaning salad)? Bet you thought some ingenious American
named Dr. Cole invented it.

Anyway, the folks at Moog Music Inc (www.moogmusic.com) say "mogue" the


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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) mogue/moog
Date: 09 Oct 1997 07:32:41 PDT


It is moag, mogue, and so on, but the platic cow still goes moooog.

I think it's dutch in origin, and the double "O" in that language is
a long "O" in English. In fact, did you all know that "cole slaw" (
cabbage salad) actually comes from the dutch "kool" (meaning cabbage)
and "sla" (meaning salad)? Bet you thought some ingenious American
named Dr. Cole invented it.

Anyway, the folks at Moog Music Inc (www.moogmusic.com) say "mogue."

Clark


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From: Sevo Stille <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kaempfert by any other name sound so sweet?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 16:53:58 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 97-10-09 02:09:05 EDT, you write:
>
> <<  Could someone here please tell me how to pronounce KAEMPFERT?
>  >
>  >  thanks
>  >
>  >  Isn't it comfortably easy to say...?
>
>  I would go with KEMP-furt (assuming it's German, the ae gets more of
> an "e"
>  kind of sound, and would normally be "an umlaut a"). >>
>
> I have always heard it pronounced CAMP-fert.

It is somewhere in between Kemp-fert and Camp-fairt. Both are pretty
close.

Sevo


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mogue as in Rogue
Date: 09 Oct 1997 08:02:53 -0700


<< >Like Moog is really Mogue
> Are you serious? >>
>
>i'm purty darn sure - almost 100% positive - that's how Robert pronounces his
>name i've read and have been told.  let's ask the list

Moog as in Rogue

-J


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Mogue (or mooooooog)
Date: 09 Oct 1997 09:44:16 -0600



>
><< >Like Moog is really Mogue
> Are you serious? >>
>
>i'm purty darn sure - almost 100% positive - that's how Robert pronounces his
>name i've read and have been told.  let's ask the list

Definitely Mogue. But I STILL say MOOOOOOOG most of the time as I think it
sounds COOOOOL. I also have this "thing" about cows...

Jill "Mingo-goooo"



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Subject: (exotica) Re: We know Moog but what about . . . ?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 13:04:55 EDT


I
<< Like Moog is really Mogue
 > Are you serious? >>
 >
 >i'm purty darn sure - almost 100% positive - that's how Robert pronounces
his
 >name i've read and have been told.  let's ask the list

 >Definitely Mogue. But I STILL say MOOOOOOOG most of the time as I think it
 >sounds COOOOOL. I also have this "thing" about cows...

Now we know how to pronounce Moog but how about his first name?




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Mogue (or mooooooog)
Date: 09 Oct 1997 13:24:38 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-09 11:48:55 EDT, you write:

<< ><< >Like Moog is really Mogue
 > Are you serious? >>
  >>
It is DEFINITELY pronounced "Mogue" ( long "o",  not "oo" sound).  I seem to
recall that I met him or one of his associates in L.A. years ago, and have
since given up correcting people's mispronunciation in an effort to become
less unpopular ( ; - > )

Chuck
down here in Dixie, deep


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Moog
Date: 09 Oct 1997 13:46:01 -0400


M-"oh"-g makes music.

M-"oo"-g makes car parts.

An interesting side-point... according to this notice at the Big Briar (Robert
Moog's current company) website:

http://www.bigbriar.com/bbmarch2.html#anchor672170

Any instrument companies currently using the Moog name are doing so without his
blessing. He's fighting to regain the name for himself.

m.ace
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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) reclaiming Moog
Date: 09 Oct 1997 10:58:24 PDT


m.ace wrote:

An interesting side-point... according to this notice at the Big Briar (Robert
Moog's current company) website:

http://www.bigbriar.com/bbmarch2.html#anchor672170

Any instrument companies currently using the Moog name are doing so without his
blessing. He's fighting to regain the name for himself.

-----------

I've seen this, but you know, Robert Moog sold the name and the company
once, and it changed hands some ridiculous number of times, finally
being run into the ground some time in the 80s. I think Robert Moog
always ran it, but he ceased owning it outright at some time fairly early
in the game. Many electronic instrument companies saw huge fluctuations
in the popularities of their products, and the people that started them
were tinkerers and creative scientists who often lacked a real flair for
business.

Anyway, now Moog Music Inc. is being resuscitated, and is building the
modular systems and the Minimoog again, all to original specs.

For more information on Moog and many other really nifty synthesizers,
i strongly recommend Mark VAil's book "Vintage Synthesizers" published
by Ziff Davvis (I believe). It includes really cool information on
Moog modular stuff, Buchla equipment (used to great ends by Morton
Subotnick) and EMS Synthi equipment (used best, I think, on John
Keating's Space Experience Vol 1, two tracks from which are on the
Sound Gallery Vol. I comp.)

One more note, Moog Music Inc. is fighting the same battle, and unfortunately,
I think Robert Moog indeed sold his name at some point. You know, Famous
Amos doesn't own his cookies anymore, either. That's what you get for
starting a business with the same name as your surname, and then selling
it, at least in this country.

Clark


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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Mogue (or mooooooog)
Date: 09 Oct 1997 14:01:38 -0400 (EDT)


>
    YU R KORRECT.
    it IS pronounced Mogue, long o.
    whether he likes it or not, i am sad to say it will always be
MOOOOOOG to me and to millions of others.
an aside....
a russian artist on our label recently met with and  Mr. Moog
and discussed his machines and music as well as his Theremin.
 no details on the meeting as yet.

bump


> << >Like Moog is really Mogue
>  Are you serious? >>
>
> i'm purty darn sure - almost 100% positive - that's how Robert pronounces his
> name i've read and have been told.  let's ask the list



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) reclaiming Moog
Date: 09 Oct 1997 14:42:55 -0400


> From: Clark Scheffy <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) reclaiming Moog

> I've seen this, but you know, Robert Moog sold the name and the company
> once, and it changed hands some ridiculous number of times, finally
> being run into the ground some time in the 80s. I think Robert Moog
> always ran it, but he ceased owning it outright at some time fairly early
> in the game.

Thanks, I was hoping someone might expand on this. I see now that there's also
a good "music biz dirt" company history at:

http://www.synthmuseum.com/moog/index.html

According to that, Norlin bought out Moog, the company, in about 1973. Moog,
the man, left in 1977 when his employment contract expired (Norlin had a good
go at running Gibson guitars into the ground as well).

> For more information on Moog and many other really nifty synthesizers,
> i strongly recommend Mark VAil's book "Vintage Synthesizers"

Online-wise, I also recommend synthmuseum.com (link above). They include a lot
of material from this book (with Vail's permission).

m.ace
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From: Steve Sando <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Mogue (or mooooooog)
Date: 09 Oct 1997 11:54:12 -0700



>It is DEFINITELY pronounced "Mogue" ( long "o",  not "oo" sound).  I seem to
>recall that I met him or one of his associates in L.A. years ago, and have
>since given up correcting people's mispronunciation in an effort to become
>less unpopular ( ; - > )

Life is full of these:
The word is cummerbund, not cumberbund.
Until James Bond, it was always "Stirred, not shaken" ("don't bruise the
gin", my dear old grand-mama' used to day).
One never toasts oneself, but smiles graciously, accepting the tribute.
Biscotti is the plural of biscotto, therefore you can never order one
"biscotti".

I guess it's a case of choosing your battles. Mine is the for the pro-gin
martini!
* * *
Steve Sando, Coconut Grove Media
PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) M/K
Date: 09 Oct 1997 15:27:19 -0400 (EDT)


The moog I hear Kampfert, the moog I want Kampfert (or is that "the more
Kampfert I want"?).....Jimmy/waitin' for Jessica's tale of a Female Vinyl
Junkie


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: We know Moog but what about . . . ?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 16:28:14 -0400


His first name is pronounced CAYMP-fairt.


>Now we know how to pronounce Moog but how about his first name?



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kamp Moogah Moogah
Date: 09 Oct 1997 17:15:35 -0400


Kaympfairt Mougue -- the sadly forgotten inventor of the electric bidet.

m.ace
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From: "Brent Clough [phone]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) tipsy pic
Date: 10 Oct 1997 10:14:15 +1000



        I just saw a photo of Tipsy in the October issue of The Wire.
        I thought they were some kind of exotic orchestra, but it's
        just two unshaven young white guys. One of them has a dodgy
        Hawaiian shirt, the other is in a crushed up tracksuit top.Are
        there no standards left? BTW, who are Sukia and is their LP on
        vinyl?

        Senor Bamboo


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) You people . . .
Date: 09 Oct 1997 20:41:09 -0400 (EDT)




<< The moog I hear Kampfert, the moog I want Kampfert (or is that "the more
 Kampfert I want"?).....Jimmy/waitin' for Jessica's tale of a Female Vinyl
 Junkie >>

You people is crazy . . . and while the mouse is away . . .

Tiki Bob


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: We know Moog but what about . . . ?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 20:42:29 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-09 16:32:46 EDT, you write:

<< His first name is pronounced CAYMP-fairt.


 >Now we know how to pronounce Moog but how about his first name? >>

So his name is "CATMP-fairt CAMP-fert"?  Huh?  Son, you been drinkin'?



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From: Ursula Blind <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) reclaiming Moog
Date: 09 Oct 1997 17:49:11 -0800


Robert Moog (pronounced moag) is one of the nicest men I've ever met. Nerd
confession: I got to sing "happy birthday" with him at the fifth birthday
party for the MIDI specification at a NAMM show (big music equpment trade
show). Oh those wild conventions....


>m.ace wrote:
>
>An interesting side-point... according to this notice at the Big Briar (Robert
>Moog's current company) website:
>
>http://www.bigbriar.com/bbmarch2.html#anchor672170
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kamp Moogah Moogah
Date: 09 Oct 1997 20:47:09 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-09 17:20:26 EDT, you write:

<< Kaympfairt Mougue -- the sadly forgotten inventor of the electric bidet.
>>

All of this useless posting is really quite shocking (actually it just
tingles)



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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) tipsy pic
Date: 09 Oct 1997 21:04:10 -0400 (EDT)



why would you think that?
the music is obviously from the techno-exotic or electronica generation.
i think they are right-on and taking the exotica scene to strange and
beautiful locales never seen/heard before...
yes the Sukia record as well as some remixes are available on vinyl.
when i first heard about the Sukia record i had a mental record of music
like Tipsy playing. the Tipsy record is so much cooler. Props to the
"Dream Machine" however.
the new Pizzicato Five 12" with the 808 state remixes and the  Daniel
Miller remix is very cool. i see them becoming the Deelite of Electronica.

bump



>         I just saw a photo of Tipsy in the October issue of The Wire.
>         I thought they were some kind of exotic orchestra, but it's
>         just two unshaven young white guys. One of them has a dodgy
>         Hawaiian shirt, the other is in a crushed up tracksuit top.Are
>         there no standards left? BTW, who are Sukia and is their LP on
>         vinyl?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) tonight in Bay area
Date: 09 Oct 1997 22:10:44 -0400 (EDT)


TONIGHT
live on KALX
Davie Allan special with
Kalifornia Kid, DJ The Now Sound & Otto von Stroheim spinnin Davie and other
Biker sounds
9 pm - 12 midnight

October 16
Davie Allan's triumphant return to the Bay area after 3 long years
9 pm at the Chameleon club at 853 Valencia near 20th
Neanderdolls open up
only $5.00
(last time he played it was $10.00!!)

Watch for the last Tiki News party of the year in
mid November featuring Mike Lucas' Sir Dancelot


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quiet Vaudevillage
Date: 09 Oct 1997 23:02:05 -0400


[brief fanfare, comics enter stage right]

m.ace:
Kaympfairt Mougue -- the sadly forgotten inventor of the electric bidet.

tiki bob:
All of this useless posting is really quite shocking.

m.ace:
If you think that's shocking, you should try the electric bidet.

[cue orchestra, comics briskly exit stage left]

(Sorry, but when you give me a setup like that, you've got to expect it ; )

m.ace
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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: Kamp Moogah Moogah
Date: 10 Oct 1997 03:13:48 +-200




----------
Sent:     09 October 1997 10:47


In a message dated 97-10-09 17:20:26 EDT, you write:

<< Kaympfairt Mougue -- the sadly forgotten inventor of the electric bidet.
>>

All of this useless posting is really quite shocking (actually it just
tingles)

TINKLES??


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From: Jan Fornell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moog Shoes
Date: 10 Oct 1997 15:19:00 +0900


Here in Japan, I've seen shoes with the brand name "Moog". As far as
I could tell, they seemed to be made of leather from a real, rather than
plastic, cow, but unfortunately they didn't come in my size and I forgot to
ask the shop assistant whether they call them "muugu" or "mohgu" or what.

Btw, electric bidets are all the rage here -- there is even a battery-
operated portable one for travellers. No joke!

Jan


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Female Vinyl Junkiehood
Date: 10 Oct 1997 02:51:05 -0400 (EDT)


A certain 'zine has promised a feminine account of vinyl addiction in it's
next issue..............Is this phenomonen possible? And if so, how does it
manifest itself?-----Exotica at your fingertips--right
here!.................Jimmy/waitin to hear MORE from publiusher and writer!


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sukia....?
Date: 10 Oct 1997 09:41:12 +-200


Even If you enjoy Tipsy I would be careful before I buy Sukia. At least give it a listen first....

Charl



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Soruces for Used Vinyl?
Date: 10 Oct 1997 07:45:33 -0400 (EDT)



Hey gang,

There is a site, which I am sure many of you know of, called the Gemm Page
(http://www.gemm.com/) which has lots of dealers and you run searches for
various old records, CD's, etc.

This page is great because you can access alot of the dealers' wares in one
location.  Then, it links you to their home page if applicable.

Does anybody have suggestions of similar sites which offer used vinyl so
comprehensively?

Thank,

Robert


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Latin compilation
Date: 10 Oct 1997 13:45:05 +-200


A friend of mine set me up with a friend of his. We decided not to meet =
for quite a while, but to converse through email. This is the =
compilation tape I made her....Charl

SMOKIN LATIN

Side 1

Watermelon Man ' 73 - Herbie Hancock
Malandrinha - Martinho da Vila
Cha cha Brasilia - Bert Kaempfert
Un Petit Bout de Satin - Bob de Bruyn
Heart - Peggy Lee
Boulevard of Broken Dreams - Esquivel
Guaglione - Perez Prado
Despedida de Mangueira - Tapajos & Dos Santos
Satisfaction (I can't get no) - Gary McFarland
Bim Bom - Sergio Mendez
Iena Sequence - Roberto Pregadio
Tea for three - Voices in Latin
Grazing in the grass - Roberto Delgado
Whipped Cream - Herb Alpert
Na Galha do Gajueiro - Wilson Simonal
Without Him - Astrud Gilberto

Side 2=20

Solo de Cuica - Batucada Fantastica
Snake - Fatback
Orfeau Negro - Chocolat's
Safari Salvaje - Barrabas
Canto Latinoamericano - Los Wawanco
Si Te Fuiste, Y Que - Johnny Colon
Noves Fora - Wilson Simonal
For Elise - Chico Arnez
Hava Tequila - Billy Strange
Delilah - Bobby Byrne
Rose Garden - Los Onoderas
Bang Bang - Xavier Cugat
Port Au Prince - Martin Denny
Meringue3 - Brute Force Steel Band


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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Che & Lalo
Date: 10 Oct 1997 04:51:36 PDT


Does anyone know anything about the soundtrack to a biopic of Che
Guevara (called 'Che') with Jack Pollance and done by Lalo Schiffrin? Is
it any good, when was it? Is it tango (about the only music Che listened
to and not much of a dancer either)?
thanks
Robert McKenna

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sukia....?
Date: 10 Oct 1997 06:30:00 -0600


At 09:41 10/10/97 +-200, you wrote:
>
>Even If you enjoy Tipsy I would be careful before I buy Sukia. At least
give it a listen first....

Yes, Sukia and Tipsy have very little in common. Tipsy is very much a direct
take on exotica and lounge sounds put into a 90s context. Whereas Sukia are
lo-fi electro-sleaze. They certainly use exotic elements at times. But while
I know it appeals to a lot of people on this list, I also know it would very
much NOT appeal to a lot of people on the list.

Visually, Sukia put on a manic and trashy live show. Dressing in wigs,
jumpsuits, 70/80s kitsch clothes, breakdancing in the audience, you name it.
There are 3 guys, one girl - though her image is very androgynous. Also,
they on their last tour in the UK (a whole 2 gigs!!!), they played almost
all new material - very much on the analogue synthesizer tip.

Anything else?

Jill "Mingo-go"
Number one Sukia Groupia.



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) CLAUDINE
Date: 10 Oct 1997 06:30:15 -0600


Fellow exoticats,

I will be off to LA for 5 months from Oct. 27 in a bid to keep myself sane.
(You are wondering why I choose an insane place like LA for sanity? I'm a
strange girl), and very luckily, my friends who run the club night CLAUDINE
are letting me guest DJ. So....

Check it out!
Wednesday, October 29, 9pm - 2am. Silverlake Lounge, Silverlake, CA. $3.99
admission.

CLAUDINE! , a night I'm told, of swingin' music from the 60's and 70's with
resident DJs HYPNOTIQUE and LANCE ROCK. Featuring special guest direct from
Glasgow, Scotland: DJ MINGO-GO!

Hope if you're in the area, you'll come along.

If there are any other folk in the area who would like to meet in general,
please get in touch directly as a girl can never have too many new pals with
similar interests when moving to a new city.

I will also quite possibly be unreachable via email, though my email address
in Scotland will remain open and my assistant will be able to get in touch
if necessary. Until then...

Toodles..

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) TIPSY
Date: 10 Oct 1997 10:30:17 -0700


You MUST realize that there are more SAMPLES involved in the TIPSY
recording than there is/are musicians added to THE MIX, right ?

They can be picked out until there is almost nothing left @:-0

Tell 'em Ford!, Ratso!, Brian S.!, Irwood et al!

Jack


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From: Kerry Keane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Female Vinyl Junkiehood
Date: 10 Oct 1997 13:09:53 -0500 (CDT)


On Fri, 10 Oct 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> A certain 'zine has promised a feminine account of vinyl addiction in it's
> next issue..............Is this phenomonen possible? And if so, how does it
> manifest itself?-----Exotica at your fingertips--right
> here!.................Jimmy/waitin to hear MORE from publiusher and writer!


man, they could have asked me!  I definitely have a vinyl problem...



******************************************************************************
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From: [e-mail] (R.Preston Peek)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Female Vinyl Junkiehood
Date: 10 Oct 1997 14:29:41 -0400


>On Fri, 10 Oct 1997 [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>
>> A certain 'zine has promised a feminine account of vinyl addiction in it's
>> next issue..............Is this phenomonen possible? And if so, how does it
>> manifest itself?-----Exotica at your fingertips--right
>> here!.................Jimmy/waitin to hear MORE from publiusher and writer!


Sorry -- Gotta wait for Issue 11!

Preston



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From: Jeff Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) More upcoming SF events
Date: 10 Oct 1997 11:17:59 -0700


Just wanted to alert y'all in the Bay Area that you have a *choice* of
evening plans next Thursday, October 16:  along with Tiki Thursday at the
Chameleon, ACTION PLUS is having a CD Release Party at Slim's (11th near
Folsom) beginning at 8PM, free admission.

Also, the Lilo Lounge (18th x Connecticut, Potrero Hill) is celebrating
their birthday on Tuesday, October 21 from 8PM-12AM.  The ad in the Bay
Guardian says "Tiki DJs, Hula Dancers, Free Stuff."  To those of you who
worship Tiki and have not been to Lilo, SHAME ON YOU!

And finally, MAN OR ASTRO-MAN? headlines Bimbo's 365 Club (Columbus x
Chestnut) on Saturday, October 25.  Doors 8PM/Show 9PM, $10 advance/$12 door.

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~~ 333 Market Street, Plaza Suite  San Francisco, California  94105~2102 ~~
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The world is falling apart...
Date: 10 Oct 1997 01:10:35 +0100



I don't know.  First it was Lounge Laura that
upped and went, and now Jill's heading off to CA.
(sniff).

Please Jessica, _do_ let us know you're staying!
We'll even promise to keep you supplied with vinyl!

Hugh.


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) tipsy pic
Date: 10 Oct 1997 12:13:52 -0800


>
>
>        I just saw a photo of Tipsy in the October issue of The Wire.
>        I thought they were some kind of exotic orchestra, but it's
>        just two unshaven young white guys. One of them has a dodgy
>        Hawaiian shirt, the other is in a crushed up tracksuit top.Are
>        there no standards left?


Some of us love Tipsy for being the nerds they are... after watching
the SF 'lounge' scene become more and more populated with twitchy,
preening retro-drones, I found it a breath of fresh air to encounter
these electro knob-twiddlers with not-so-hip hairstyles and crummy 80's
tracksuits... quite _exotic_!  Even more pleased when we hosted
their first live show at Sense-o-Round and they came onstage with --
god forbid -- a hip-hop DJ!  Smiled to myself the whole evening...

Not saying this to dis anyone's particular style, understand... just
like to see things open up...

-Brian



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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) TIPSY vs SUKIA vs ESQUIVEL
Date: 11 Oct 1997 01:37:53 +-200



You MUST realize that there are more SAMPLES involved in the TIPSY
recording than there is/are musicians added to THE MIX, right ?

They can be picked out until there is almost nothing left @:-0

This may be so, but then it indicates that they are good arrangers, does =
it not? I get the feeling halfway throug Sukia songs to press the skip =
button. Is it my understanding of how a good arrangement keeps your =
attention or just my taste? Or does this just reveal the shadowy truth =
about modern music? I get images of stoned youngsters sitting in front =
of expensive equipment, pressing buttons on samplers, and on the other =
hand the experienced orchestra leaders with their skill of arrangement =
and many talented musicians to guide....I don't know anymore...

Charl


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Latin compilation
Date: 11 Oct 1997 01:32:35 +-200


Is Astrud Gilberto's "Without Him" the same song as Blood, Sweat, And =
Tears'
"Without Her"?...."It's just no good anymore when you wake up in a =
lonely
room....to spend another day without her"

Yip thats the one. Gives me goosebumps everytime. I absolutely adore =
Blood, Sweat, And Tears. I have unfortunately not heard their version. =
The Astrud Gilberto is of her 1969 album "I haven't got anything better =
to do" on Verve. It is more introspective than her other work and this =
is the most lively track! Check it out...

Charl




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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) TIPSY vs SUKIA vs ESQUIVEL
Date: 10 Oct 1997 18:22:03 -0800


>
>This may be so, but then it indicates that they are good arrangers, does
>it not? I get the feeling halfway throug Sukia songs to press the skip
>button. Is it my understanding of how a good arrangement keeps your
>attention or just my taste? Or does this just reveal the shadowy truth
>about modern music? I get images of stoned youngsters sitting in front of
>expensive equipment, pressing buttons on samplers, and on the other hand
>the experienced orchestra leaders with their skill of arrangement and many
>talented musicians to guide....I don't know anymore...
>
>Charl
>

I think there are definitely two sides to be spoken for here, but it's
difficult to really judge when you're dealing with apples & oranges...
the age of sequencers and samplers has ushered in a new and different
type of musical creativity.  As a musician, I sort of have a foot in
both worlds and try to appreciate both.  There is no doubt that the
high level of musical education and skill of the musicians of yesteryear
has fallen by the wayside -- most people I know making electronic music
(and rockers too for that matter) don't have a traditional music
education.  They find it exotic and strange that I know how to read
music and can do a bit of arranging for 'real' instruments... lately
I've been studying Mancini's excellent textbook, in fact.  But as
much as i'm glad to be carrying on some of the hallowed art of the
past, I would never be one to say that there's any less musical
talent in the world today; I just see it beginning to be expressed
along different paths.  To tell the truth, almost none of the
contemporary music that really grabs me and really entrances me is
created by old-skool Musicians.

True, there are certainly plenty of stoned youngsters with racks
of expensive gear pressing buttons and spewing out hours of half-baked
blithering rubbish, but at the other end of the scale you have, for
example, supposedly genius virtuoso musicians at uppity jazz clubs
spewing out limp, meaningless, bloated tapestries of 'talent'.
Which is worse?  Well, personally, I tend to favor the stoned
youngsters, in the very least to counter all the snobby Musicians
i've had to endure...

But of course even jazz was once very different...back in the 1920's
there were a lot of very negative reactions when it broke on the
scene -- many people who were into 'real' music (i.e. classical)
dismissed it as crude cacophony that debased all the valued tenets
of musical art.  And worse yet that this new music was oriented around
dancing!  Who can say whether the urban dance music of today will ever
become lionized and legitimate among 'serious' musicians as jazz did
eventually, but it has already done one thing that jazz did, which
is influence a new generation of mood music.

Enter Tipsy.  That said, I have to complain that Tipsy are a bit
weak when it comes to a sense of structure and songwriting; I think
their music could use a little more old-fashioned form and melody.
But I love it all the same... and i'm really amazed at their skill
and creativity with sampling & arrangement.  And of course they
have utilized the skills of performing musicians as well, of whom
the foremost in my mind is DJ Mixmaster Mike, who is not on the
album but has been in several of their live shows.  I'm not just
saying that for the hell of it, either...

thanks for the ranting space,

-Brian



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) FYI
Date: 10 Oct 1997 21:37:44 -0400 (EDT)


David Smay told me that the new issue of Outre has an article on Linda
Lawson. I just bought it. I hope this will inspire a release of her stuff.
Apparently there's some stuff on the Verve label that she also did.
Gloria


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Samples Schmamples
Date: 10 Oct 1997 18:44:29 -0700


But then I kinda dig a cheesy rip-off for rip-off's sake, like bad hip-hop.
>
>C. "Ratso" Russo

I was gettin' some new car stereo gear installed and was waitin' in the
"demo room" and this young guy comes in and puts this CD into a player that
they are selling and out comes Grand Master Flash - The Message.

That was the music

The words were like this 60's pop tune but done by some rapper guy.  It was
alot slower than the original tho (of course)

I said to the guy that these people make tons o' money doing NOTHING

They don't have to come up with the words and the music is someone else's too!

What a racket!  How do I get in on this scam of scams called sampling

When I get a sample of some pastry at the market, I don't get the whole pie
@:-)
I only get a sample

Diamond


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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) FYI
Date: 10 Oct 1997 20:45:48 -0500



>David Smay told me that the new issue of Outre has an article on Linda
>Lawson.


How/where does one find a copy of this?



Darrell Brogdon
Program Director, KANU
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) FYI
Date: 10 Oct 1997 21:52:17 -0400 (EDT)



In a message dated 10/10/97 6:47:45 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

<<How/where does one find a copy of this?>>

I got mine at my local Tower Records.


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) FYI (Outre Magazine)
Date: 10 Oct 1997 22:14:30 -0400


The Filmfax / Outre combine also have a web presence at:

http://www.filmfax.com/

I just checked and they STILL don't have it on its feet. But at least that
"we're still moving in" message that's been up all year is finally gone.

m.ace
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) FYI (Outre Magazine)
Date: 10 Oct 1997 22:48:49 -0400 (EDT)



In a message dated 10/10/97 7:17:18 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

<<But at least that

"we're still moving in" message that's been up all year is finally gone.
>>

Um....I GUESS that's progress.


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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Samples Schmamples
Date: 09 Oct 1997 09:00:00 -0500


Jack Diamond wrote:

> What a racket!  How do I get in on this scam of scams called
> sampling

Not THIS again!  You people sound like my parents' parents...  Go on
bashing cut and paste methods while you adore your beatniks and sound
effects dabblers (Elliot, i.e.)   and while your at it, give that
Portishead cd to someone who can appreciate it...  and send all of
your Stereolab Lp's to me   ;  )    (They've been 'live' sampling for
a while and their latest is a total computer pieced together
concoction.... tho' you wouldn't guess it - their warmest sound yet)

Blah, blah, blah...    It's much more stimulating being part of a
group which shares interests rather than dislikes.

How about those Mets...?

kevin king
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The world is falling apart...
Date: 11 Oct 1997 03:56:23 -0600



>I don't know.  First it was Lounge Laura that
>upped and went, and now Jill's heading off to CA.
>(sniff).

But I'm coming back in April.  HONEST! I won't leave you!!!

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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flash Daddy
Date: 11 Oct 1997 12:33:37 +-200


 They said: "But then I kinda dig a cheesy rip-off for rip-off's sake, =
like bad hip-hop.
I was gettin' some new car stereo gear installed and was waitin' in the
"demo room" and this young guy comes in and puts this CD into a player =
that
they are selling and out comes Grand Master Flash - The Message.
The words were like this 60's pop tune but done by some rapper guy.  It =
was
alot slower than the original tho (of course)
I said to the guy that these people make tons o' money doing NOTHING
They don't have to come up with the words and the music is someone =
else's too!"

I don't know how exotic rap is but...
That must have been one of the last tracks off the Puff Daddy album. =
Although funky, musically it seriously lacks originality. The tracks =
with most melody are the ones with most samples and the rest is framey. =
One should however remember that Puff is a rapper at first and that his =
ability to rhyme and fall in rhythm comes first. Sort of like Kenny G =
improvising really well to cheezy synth music.

Sorry to stray from the topic.....Charl



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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Schmamples
Date: 11 Oct 1997 12:41:26 +-200


I thought fans of exotica would prefer music without or from before sampling...Or have I just listened to too much Miles Davis...Charl



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Basic Hip tape mix for Jessica
Date: 11 Oct 1997 10:47:01 -0400 (EDT)


I'll submit one...

side one
BASIC HIP  Del Close And John Brent  "How To Speak Hip"
VOCA JAZZ  Don Elliott  =93Music For The Sensational Sixties=94
CHEROKEE  Buddy Emmons  =93Amazing Steel Guitar=94
I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND  Enoch Light  =93Discotheque Dance Dance Dance"
  PERFIDIA  Michel Magne  =93Tropical Fantasy=94
THIS GUY=92S IN LOVE WITH YOU  Christoper Scott  =93Switched On Bacharach=
=94
COMIN=92 HOME, BABY  Mark Wirtz  =93The Go-Go Music Of The Mark Wirtz Orc=
hestra=94
THE PROM  Ross Bagdasarian  =93The Mixed-Up World Of Bagdasarian=94
CAPTAIN SCARLET  The Barry Gray Orchestra  =93The A To Z Of British TV Th=
emes=94
PETER PERCUSSION  Alec Wilder  =93A Child=92s Introduction To Orchestra=94
MAN ABOUT TOWN  Laurie Johnson  =93Music For TV Dinners=94
WHISTLE WHILE YOU WORK  Roger Ericson And His Men  =93Disney Meets The Wi=
zard=94
SAWADI  Alberto Baldan Bembo  =93Easy Tempo Volume 1=94
THE PINK PANTHER THEME  Anita Kerr Quartet  =93We Dig Mancini=94
YELLOW WORLD  J Girls  =93Further In-Flight Entertainment=94
GROOVY DELIVERY BOY  Frank Devol  =93Guess Who=92s Coming To Dinner=94
SOMEBODY LOVES ME  Bob Cooper  =93The Music Of Bob Cooper=94
GOOD MORNING STARSHINE  Mort Garson  =93Electronic Hair Pieces=94
ORGIES - A TOOL OF WITCHCRAFT  Louise Huebner  =93Seduction Through Witch=
craft=94
CUPID STRIKES  Nino Rota  =93Juliet Of The Spirits=94

side two
FOR HI-FI BUGS  Pete Rugolo  =93Music For Hi-Fi Bugs=94
LOVER  Roy Lanham  =93Sizzling Strings=94
SONG OF THE NAIROBI TRIO  The Fortune Tellers  =93Song Of The Nairobi Tri=
o=94
CARAVAN  Enoch Light  =93The Exotic Trilogy Volume 2=94
MY JESUS, I LOVE THEE  Ralph Platt  =93The Birds Sing His Praise=94=20
BEER, VERMOUTH E GIN  Piero Umiliani  =93Svezia Inferno Paradiso=94
JE T=92AIME...MOI NON PLUS  The Electric Concept Orchestra  =93Electric L=
ove=94=20
POLKA MAUVE  The Metropole Orchestra  =93Grands Travaux - Roger Roger=94
BECAUSE YOU LOVE ME  Wayne King  (Franklyn McCormack)  =93Melody Of Love=94
MY NUMBER ONE LOVE  Esquivel  =93Exploring New Sounds In Stereo=94
PATTY DUKE THEME  Warner Bros. Orchestra  =93Top T.V. Themes 1964=94
THE BALL  Billy Golembiewski  =93Hear How To Be A Better Bowler=94
WOMAN=92S PLACE IN SOCIETY  Sidney Poitier  =93Poitier Meets Plato=94
64 BARS ON WILSHIRE  Barney Kessel  =93Kessel Play Standards=94 =20
SHE HANGS OUT  (Doin=92 The Dentist)  Quincy Jones  =93Cactus Flower=94
TRACTOR DRIVING MAN  Ford Motor Company =93Product Music=94
BLACK AND BLUES  Fred Miller  =93The Sounds Of Love...A To Z=94  =20



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From: Vernon Stoltz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Around the World
Date: 11 Oct 1997 17:17:56 GMT


> I'd like to know what the oldest Around the World album you own is,
> and I'm especially interested in knowing if anyone has seen any
> pre-1948, 78 RPM albums organized around the theme of "a musical tour
> around the world..."?
>

I own only two sets of 78rpm records, but they both fall under 'Exotica'

1) The first set, called "Exotic Music" features Andre Kostelanetz and his
orchestra.  2 12" records, a side each given to 'Poinciana', 'Flamingo',
'Lotus Land', and 'Song of India.'  As the liner notes state, "Each tells a
story, describing in turn a brilliantly colored tree, the tropical grace of
the flamingo, the potency of a supernatural drug which brings forgetfulness,
and the spell of India told by a traveler from her shores."

No dates are given but its on the Columbia Masterworks set x-264.  I bought
it mainly for the cover, which features a small multi-armed Hindu Goddess.
The music itself is much too lush and orchestral for my personal tastes

2) The second set is called "Hawaiian Chants" performed by Al Kealoha Perry
and his singing surfriders, put out on Decca Records No. A-464, dated 1946.
The front cover has printed in red letters "Ancient Legends in Song", which
makes me wonder whether this album set was one in a series.

The album set features 4 10" discs, and they are a real joy to listen to
(except for Disc 3 where someone had inadvertenly substituted an Hawaiian
Fox Trot by some other artist) The chanting is fast paced and very energetic
...it is one of my favorite Hawaiian music albums of all time.

. . . . . . . . . .
Vern Stoltz     Cannot Become Obsolete
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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Samples Schmamples
Date: 11 Oct 1997 15:20:53 -0400 (EDT)



Here Hear!!!!!!!  i second this emotion....
i guess there are hardnosed (headed) old schoolers trapped in their ideas
of what constitutes "real exotica" and those who just dig cool sounds, no
matter how they get to your ears....
tonite we are going to party like its 1999!!!!!!!

bump
>
> Not THIS again! (the sampling issue)  You people sound like my parents'
parents... Go on
> bashing cut and paste methods while you adore your beatniks and sound
> effects dabblers (Elliot, i.e.)   and while your at it, give that



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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  tape mix
Date: 11 Oct 1997 17:32:52 +0000


I'll bite...   read or delete

Recent tape for a friend - to heck and back:

KPM Library - express delivery
Stereolab - miss modular
Jeff Haskell - sam's place (switched on buck)
Lee Scott - tipsy topsy turvey (msr madness vol.3)
Piero Umiliani - mah na mah na (sweden heaven and hell)
The Beach Boys - can't wait too long (smiley smile bonus)
The Honeycombs (Joe Meek produced) - she's too way out
Trans Am - trans am
Stereolab - allures
Roy Budd - pavane (rebirth of the budd)
Paris Studio Group - accroche toi, caroline (sound gallery vol.2)
Batboys - the villain strikes (batman - design records)
Gert Wilden - i told you not to cry
Les Baxter - the left arm of buddha (exotic moods of)
Quincy Jones - hangin' paper (in cold blood)
Joe Greene - walk to hell: destruction (on her bed of roses)
Shadows of Time - search your soul (an overdose of heavy psych)
----
Atari Teenage Riot - sick to death (burn, berlin, burn!)
Blur - theme from retro
Mekons - brutal (curse of the mekons)
Gert Wilden - beware (i told you not to cry)
Riz Ortolani - tiffany sequence m.22 (beat at cinecetta)
Reverbi's - venus in furs, seq.3 (venus in furs)
Usha Uthup & Chorus - one two cha cha cha (further in-flight
entertainment)
Bruce Haack - electric to me turn (the electric lucifer)
Mouse on Mars - schnick-schnack
Amaswazi Emvelo & Mahlathini - utshwala betazati (indestructable beat
of soweto vol.2)
Mozesli - sunshine (sourcelab 3)
Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - lancet bossa nova (raumpatrouille)




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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tape mix posts
Date: 11 Oct 1997 18:06:24 -0400


Did I miss the start of this thread? What's up here?

m.ace
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tape mix posts
Date: 11 Oct 1997 21:03:07 -0400 (EDT)


m. ace inquired:

<< Did I miss the start of this thread? What's up here?

it sorta just started.  I've always enjoyed reading the playlists of fellow
members that have radio programs.  Then Charl posted a tape mix for a friend.
 I think it's a good way to see what people are collecting and sharing with
others.

I will post others occasionally in the future.  The subject will always be
"Basic Hip Tape Mix", so delete it if you aren't interested.  On the other
hand, if you would like addtional information on any titles, please ask.


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) KFJC-FM DJ Playlists
Date: 11 Oct 1997 19:44:46 -0700


Hello all,

ALL of the DJ playlists on a weekly basis are available at
http://www.spies.com/misc/DJ/MD/peel/

Not all, but many of them have linked reviews (if a title happens to come
from 1 of the many KFJC-FM libraries) to the DJ's that reviewed them.

Have fun and expand your mind through 89.7FM, KFJC.

You will not believe what you have been missing.

Jack


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) KFJC-FM REKKID SWAP!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:09:45 -0700


On the Foothill College Campus off of Highway 280 and El Monte Rd. starting
at 9AM is the umpteenth version of KFJC-FM's World Famous Rekkid Swap

*********PLEASE NOTE************

*******8 QUARTERS FOR PARKING*******

2 bucks at the door solely benefits KFJC and it's annual maintenance costs

WE DON'T GET PAID, THIS IS NOT OUR JOB:)

Thank you and maybe I'll see you there.  I'm on 9AM-Noon

Jack


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The MOST eclectic radio station in the world
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:11:58 -0700


KFJC-FM, 89.7 is right in the middle of our annual FUNDRAISER and I
GUARANTEE, you have NEVER heard a fundraiser like this before!!!

For starters, we do not hold Programming at RANSOM while we whine for money.
This is NOT a beg-thon.  No way

Most of the fundraiser are pre-recorded very funny, sometimes sick and
always extremely entertaining GREAT production spots where at the end of
the FUNDRAISER, we have a SPOT-A-THON where we play all of the spots back
to back to back to back and they are all recorded onto CD's.

This was made possible by past fundraising contributions, the equipment
that is, not the time involved and that's where the KFJC Staff comes in at.
That's the kind of "work" we do

We entertain like you could never imagine (truly) and simply ask our
listeners and supporters to help us out with what they can, still truly a
one of a kind non-commercial radio station, JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS!

And you know what ?  They do and we are grateful

Jack Diamond
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:14:34 -0700


 KFJC play list 10/5/97 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                          TRACK                     ALBUM
 Planets                          Chunky
 George Benson Qrt                Big Fat Lady              Ronnie Cuber-Bari Sax
 Robert Prince                    Statics                   Jazz Ballet U.S.A.
 Kenyon Hopkins                   The Loft                  Vinyl, Nightmare
 Pino Donaggio                    School in Flames          Carrie ;-)

 Please Donate to K F J C        650-941-6800              Thank You Very Much:)

 Gershon Kingsley                 Nowhere Man               Music to Moog By
 Clause Ogerman                   It's Not Unusual          Dick Hyman-Organ
 Curly Chalker                    A Thing Called Sadness      Gorgeous Steel
 Jay Chattaway                    Inner Voices              Maniac Soundtrack
 Shorty Rogers/Giants             Oooooooomgawa!            Tarzan, the Ape Man
 Nelson Riddle Orch.              My Three Sons Theme       Capitol
 Sid Bass Orch.                   East of the Sun           Vik, 1956
 Henry Mancini Orch.              Kojak/S.W.A.T.            1976

 Walter Schumann Voices            Paul Frees-Spoken Word    Exploring the Unknown
 Leith Stevens Orch.              Welcoming Procession

 James Franciscus             Brent's Interrogation     Beneath The Planet of The
Apes
 Leith Stevens                    War of the Worlds          Zap, Zap, ZZZZZZZZZAP!!!
 Three Suns                       White Christmas           Ding Dong Dandy Xmas
 R. Rodney Bennett                Russian Calvary           Billion $ Brain, Theremin
 Ray Martin Orch.                 Destination Space         Sound of Sight
 Bruce Haack                      Chant of the Unborn       Electric Lucifer

 Wray, Link                       Jack the Ripper           Live at the Record Plant
                                                            1974

 Bob Mcfadden                     Noisy Village                Songs Our Mummy Taught Us

 Lambert, Hendrikcks
 And Ross                         Down for Double          1st LP, 1958

 Yardbirds/Jeff Beck              Someone to Love           Instro
 Mike Pacheco,                    Too Marvelous             Tampa
 Tony Rizzi-Guitar
 Carlos Vidal-Conga

 Elmer Bernstein Orch             Short Noise              Some Came Running score
 Chung King Commercial            1966 winner              Clio Awards
 Los Indios Tabajaras             Angelitos Negros
 Stanley Meyers                   K I N K Y D O L L Y       Kaleidoscope
 John Barry                       The Ipcress File          Cymbalum!
 Mal Sharpe/Jim Coyle             The Last Sleep            Warner Bros
 Dick Hyman/Mary Mayo             Desafinado                Mass for Today/Moon Gas
 Alan Lorber Orch                 Mas Que Nada              Vinnie Bell-Sitar
 Mort Garson                      Gemini                  Elektra, 1967
 Kay Martin                       I Know What He Wants
 And Her Bodyguards               For Xmas, I Just Don't
                                  Know How to Wrap It

 Don Patterson Qrt                Last Train From           Houston Pearson
                                  Overbrook
 Babs Gonzales                    Be Bop Santa Claus        Doc Bagby-Organ
 Budd Schulberg                   A Face in the Crowd       Andy Griffith

 Wilfred Burns                    Stop Gap                  [coll]: Music for T V
                                                      Dinners-This Rules!

 Kenyon Hopkins                   The Hustler               Kapp, Phil Woods-Alto

 Mort Garson                      Music for Sensuous
                                  Lovers by "Z"
                                  Climax Number 1

 Jerry Fielding Orch.             The Delivery              The Gauntlet (score)
 Ennio Morricone                  Velvet Muscles            Malamondo!!!
 Pete Rugolo Orch.                Diamond on the Move

KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
KFJC-FM is now On Line
Please direct your browser to http://www.KFJC.org and click on
Internet Broadcast or tune your FM radio dial to 89.7 if you are in
or around the San Fracisco bay area for the best damn non-commercial station
in the entire galaxy, I shit you not

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) THE MOST eclectic radio station in the world!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:22:32 -0700


KFJC-FM, 89.7 is right in the middle of our annual FUNDRAISER and I
GUARANTEE, you have NEVER heard a fundraiser like this before!!!

For starters, we do not hold Programming at RANSOM while we whine for money.
This is NOT a beg-A-thon.  No way

KFJC-FM prides itself on its uniqueness

Most of the fundraiser are pre-recorded very funny, sometimes sick and
always extremely entertaining GREAT production spots, where at the end of
the FUNDRAISER, we have a SPOT-A-THON where we play all of the spots back
to back to back to back and they are all recorded onto CD's.

This digital technology was made possible by past fundraising
contributions, The time and creativity involved though is where the KFJC
Staff comes in at.
That's the kind of "work" we do and we do not get paid, this is not our job
BUT it truly is a labor of love.

We entertain like you could never imagine (truly) and simply ask our
listeners and supporters to help us out with what they can, still truly a
one of a kind non-commercial radio station, JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS!

And you know what ?  They DO help us out and we are grateful.
You can too:)
[phone]

Jack Diamond
http://www.kfjc.org

PS  Thank you Lazlo


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) sampling, etc.
Date: 11 Oct 1997 23:38:46 -0400


Is this sampling thread a regularly scheduled event? I was going to stay away
from it this time, but you folks got me thinking (and that's never good news):

If you are involved in the music at a note by note level, you are creating
music.

If you are involved at a further remove than that, you are manipulating music.
I do not say that with negative intent, but simply on a functional level. When
working in this mode, you are not creating new music. But you are creating a
new musical experience. And like a visual artist constructing a collage from
others' work, you are involved in a remote collaboration with those who created
your material. Which adds up to shared authorship. A parallel to the shared
authorship of a group of "manual" musicians.

Now let's complicate things. I think we mentioned the combination of "manual"
music and sample constructions last round. So I'll skip that. Here's a new
twist. What about an artist who manually creates a collection of new musical
pieces -- and then proceeds to assemble a sample construction using those
pieces as material?

Or how about a scenario that (totally?) negates a human author? Computer
programs that generate music. The programmer is the author of the program (no
duh), but who is the author of the music? I've tinkered with that sort of thing
a little on a very low budget level, and I'm still not sure what I think about
it.

One factor that never seems to be mentioned in this recurring sample thread is
sequencing vs. live "triggering." But I'm too sleepy to go into that.

I almost always prefer "manual" music, because I enjoy hearing personal
fingerprints on the sounds. But other approaches can be valid and interesting.

m.ace
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack
Date: 11 Oct 1997 21:38:20 -0700


KFJC play list 9/28/97 for Jack Diamond

         ARTIST                   TRACK                    ALBUM
         The Planets           Chunky
         Bill Holman Orch. W/  Vince Guaraldi-Piano        Monte Budwig-Bass
         Richie Kamuca-Tenor   Blue Jazz                   L.A., 1959
         George Cates Orch.    Quiet Village               Rockin' R & B
         The New Bangs         Go Go Kitty                 Gone Gone Gone World
         Chaino & Mate         The Jungle Chase            Omega-Disc
         Robert Cobert         I Ching Trance              Dark Shadows
         The Hellers           Life Story                  Command
         Harpo Marx W/
         Fred Katz Orch.       Lullaby Doll
         Psychedelic Seeds     The Flower Song             Bell Rekkids
         Steve Cropper         In the Midnight Hour        Volt

         Hal Blaine            Flashes                     Psychedelic
                                                               Percussion
         Nordine, Ken          Burgundy                        Colors
                                  Yellow
                                  Green

         Pierre Henry          Jerico Jerk (Jerico         Mass for Today
                                Groove)

         Modernaires           Girl W/ the Long Black      Richard Diamond Vocal
                                   Hair

         Huebner, Louise       Seduction Spells            Seduction Through
                                                             Witchcraft
         Bobby Christian Orch  Space Suite                 Audio Fidelity, 1962
         Jerry Goldsmith       Westward Ho-Oh!             In Like Flint
         Gabor Szabo           Krishna                     Jazz Raga
         Leslie Bricusse       Your Zowie Face             In Like Flint

         Rick Holmes With;
        Mike Deasy/Walter Booker-Gtrs
         Cannonball Adderley   Aquarius                    Soul Zodiac

        Elmer Bernstein Orch. Central Park 4/A M          Blues and Brass
         Stu Phillips Orch     Solar Siesta                Harry Revel's Music
                                                             From Out of Space

        Beaver and Krause     Moogy Blues Funk            Ragnarok, Limelight
         Amps for Christ         Two Am...             Tungsten Aire/Beggars Garden,
         Lalo Schifrin         Hotel Daniels               Bullitt
         Mundell Lowe Qnt      Love Me or Leave Me         1957, Gene Quill-Alto
         Ennio Morricone       The Odds                    Malamondo
         Kraftwerk             Taschenrechner              Pocket Calculator
                                                               In German;-)>
         Del Close and                                     How to Speak Hip
         John Brent            Vocabulary Building

         Gerhard Narholz       Speaking Guitar             [coll]: Music for T V
                                                             Dinners
         Bridget Bardot
        Picture Disc           David B.                    And God Created Woman

         Flower Power          You Make Me Fly             [coll]: Psychedelic
                                                               Experience
         Elmer Bernstein       Blast Off Minus 3           Silencers

         Wray, Link            You Walked By               Live at the Record
                                                             Plant 1974
         Attileo Mineo         Soaring Science with
                                  Spoken Word Introduction    Lp #55555

         Big Jim Sullivan      K T T S                     Sitar
                                                            Beat

        Jazzbo Collins        Goldilox & the 3 Bears      Impulse, Hal Blaine
         With Steve Allen  &   Mel Brown, Terry Gibbs

        Lalo Schifrin         Shifting Gears              A Request!
         Barry Gray Orch. W/
         Gary Miller-Vocals    Stingray

        Phil Upchurch         Bacn' Chips                 1969
         Johnny Spots          Private Ear                 Heller-Ferguson
         Chet Baker            The Thrill Is Gone          This World, Then
                                                           The Fireworks, P. Rugolo
         Bob Mersey Orch       Forever Frantic
         Quincy Jones          Abso-Bleedin-Lutely
         Pete Rugolo           Diamond on the Move

KFJC-FM is now On Line
Please direct your browser to http://www.KFJC.org and click on
Internet Broadcast or tune your FM radio dial to 89.7 if you are in
or around the San Fracisco bay area for the best damn non-commercial station
in the entire galaxy,truly 1 of a kind. I shit you not.

Jack Diamond


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From: "Brent Clough [phone]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) tipsy talk
Date: 12 Oct 1997 17:40:45 +1000




        As the one who started some of the Tipsy talk by slagging
        their satorial shortcomings may I say I actually enjoy 'their'
        music quite a bit. I've subjected Australian ears to the LP
        many times over the last year (despite my copy arriving warped
        from the US). What I was having a dig at was the unfortunate
        reality that so many of these electronica outfits, no matter
        how smart their music might be, are invariably comprised of
        two kinda washed-out & cynical-looking white guys. I suppose I
        wonder what's happened to the imaginative cross-cultural
        collaborations that large groups of musicians so
        enthusiastically undertook under the name of Exotica.I'm all
        for electronic music made on keyboards, but why sample all
        your percussion when you could work with some teenage
        bongo-meister who could make the music more quirky, less
        metronomic, more alive?

        To be fair to Tipsy and Stereolab (as two examples) they
        namecheck a whole bunch of musicians who contribute to their
        LPs (hence my comment about Tipsy apparently being an "exotic
        orchestra"). In fact 'Dots and Loops' (which btw I think is a
        pretty wonderful 90s pop record) seems to utilise a veritable
        big band by today's standards, with 4 brass and 4 strings
        players. But why does the music still sound antiseptic, like
        it's all been assembled after the recording? (maybe it has)

        I'm someone who's grown up with Kraftwerk, hip hop, house,
        techno, electronica - I'm no 'real' music purist - but in my
        dark moments I feel like we're still wading through the murky
        waters of rock culture - 40 years of dumbness masquerading as
        rebellion - and we're afraid to embrace the joyful
        possibilities of other forms of musical expression. Why can't
        Electronica be the new Exotica, but instead of 'quoting' music
        from the past, embrace the former music's spirit of
        playfulness and collaboration and imagine new combinations for
        players and programmers?

        I guess I'm imagining a Tipsy-like outfit of the future
        augmented by Leon Parker on drums, the Stereolab horn section,
        Ry Cooder on guitar, Bro. Cleve on keyboards, Uakti playing
        glass marimbas, DJ Spooky adding a sprinkling of ambient
        noise, Eric B. cutting up new age records.  Y'know, something
        actually exotic. They'll be able to play live. Track suits
        won't be banned, but natural fabrics will be encouraged. Brian
        Salter will do the arrangements and the audience will add
        birdcalls via small touchscreens embedded in their tables or
        from their own throats if the spirit moves them.

        Dunno. Maybe it's all about to happen...

        Senor Bamboo

        P.S. I heard a great 1997 electro/moog record the other day. I
        think Tim Gane from Stereolab's involved with it. 'Turn On' by
        Turn On. Anybody else heard it?



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From: Dan Gresham <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Samples Schmamples
Date: 12 Oct 1997 15:30:06 +0100 (BST)


On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Jack Diamond wrote:

> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:44:29 -0700
> From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Samples Schmamples
>
> But then I kinda dig a cheesy rip-off for rip-off's sake, like bad hip-hop.
>
> I was gettin' some new car stereo gear installed and was waitin' in the
> "demo room" and this young guy comes in and puts this CD into a player that
> they are selling and out comes Grand Master Flash - The Message.
>
> That was the music
>
> The words were like this 60's pop tune but done by some rapper guy.  It was
> alot slower than the original tho (of course)
>
> I said to the guy that these people make tons o' money doing NOTHING

Now that's _not_ true

> They don't have to come up with the words and the music is someone else's too!
>
> What a racket!  How do I get in on this scam of scams called sampling

Sampling is everything but a scam... There's a very arty-farty word called
recontextualising which effectively means (as far as I understand it)
taking something from one context and putting it into another so that it
kind of turns into something different.  I often see sampling as a form of
this.  You take a sample from one genre and use it in another.  Now if I
was to sample the break from a KRS One track and rapped over the top, that
would be pathetic.  But if I sampled a snatch from an old Pretty Purdey
track, and programmed that to turn it into a hip hop break, then stuck an
Alan Hawkshaw hammond riff over the top and a Jimmy Smith bass line
underneath, and then rapped over the top, surely that would be creative?
(it might not be too original, but there you go!)  Surely the strength of
samplers is in taking snatches of things and reworking them to use them in
another context to a different effect.  Now that's definitely not a scam!
Certainly a lot of producers nowadays are getting session musicians in to
record sessions to DAT to be sampled later.  That aint no scam...

As for hip hop artists taking tracks and doing new versions of them,
surely that was one of the techniques that the whole easy
listening/exotica movement was built upon - where would most of the
producers/artists be if it weren't for cover versions?  I think we all
need to check our record collections before we slag of samplers...

over and out...


Dan



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Samples Schmamples
Date: 12 Oct 1997 09:39:04 -0600



>> They don't have to come up with the words and the music is someone else's
too!
>>
>> What a racket!  How do I get in on this scam of scams called sampling
>
>Sampling is everything but a scam... T I think we all
>need to check our record collections before we slag of samplers...

This is a very old topic on the list that seems to really upset people. Both
opinions of course are valid as they are subjective opinions, and I am not
singling anyone out - just highlighting some fine moments in the debate. But
we should probably leave this one alone, eh?

Because the last debate bordered on nasty....

JA?

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) While listening to "Big Band Jump"...
Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:29:22 -0400


...the subject was the "K" file, such as John Kirby, Kay Kyser, Johnny
Keating and...and...

Bert Kaempfert(which he pronounced CAMP-fert.)!  They played "Red Roses for
a Blue Lady" and "Bye, Bye Blues".


Yes we Kaem Kaem,
Brian Phillips


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Basic Hip tape mix for Jill
Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:33:02 -0400 (EDT)


one more list, this time sans CD's....

side one
BASIC HIP  Del Close And John Brent  =93How To Speak Hip=94
ONE BEFORE CLOSING  Elmer Bernstein  =93Staccato=94
FOR HI-FI BUGS  Pete Rugulo  =93Music For Hi-Fi Bugs=94
BIRTH OF A PLANET  Russ Garcia  =93Fantastica=94
THE PEANUT VENDOR  Sid Bass  =93Moog Espana=94
MICKEY MOUSE CLUB  Frank Comstock  =93How To Get The Most Out Of Your Ste=
reo=94
SEA HUNT THEME  Buddy Morrow  =93Impact=94
THE TWILIGHT ZONE  Marty Manning  =93The Twilight Zone=94
MARCH OF THE MARTIANS  Harry Breuer  =93The Happy Moog=94
I WISH I COULD SPEAK FRENCH  Alvin  =93Around The World With the Chipmunk=
s=94
ZEBRA  Ken Nordine  =93Twink=94
FEAR  Robert Young  =93Guideposts For Everyday Living=94 (inspirational r=
adio
spot)
I WISH I COULD, ETC.  George Duning  =93Bell, Book And Candle=94
LEMONADE  Kenyon Hopkins  =93Baby Doll=94
DOORS AND BIKES AND THINGS  John Barry  =93The Knack...And How To Get It=94
LET=92S STAY TOGETHER  Claude Denjean  =93Open Circuit=94
PIPELINE  Hot Butter  =93Popcorn=94
CALIFORNIA DREAMIN=92  101 Strings  =93Sounds Of Today=94
YOU ARE THE SUNSHINE OF MY LIFE  Hugo Montenegro  =93Hugo In Wonder-land=94
I GOT A BONGO  Jack Costanzo  =93Learn - Play Bongos=94
COPPERTONE COMMERCIAL  (1960's QT - Quick Tanning Lotion...remember?)

side two
INTRO:  KORLA PANDIT TELEVSION SHOW (from a video - how I wish you could =
SEE
it!)
A NIGHT WITH CLEOPATRA  Les Baxter  =93The Primitive And The Passionate=94
TEMPLE OF SUICIDE  Dominic Frontiere  =93Pagan Festival=94
HOODUNIT  Ray Martin  =93The Sound Of Sight=94
THE CREEP  Enoch Light  =93The Private Life Of A Private Eye=94
HAWAIIAN EYE  Warren Barker  =93Hawaiian Eye=94
SECRET SAM COMMERCIAL  (1960's spy toy)
THE PLOT  Franz Waxman  =93Crime In The Streets=94
PERSONALITY DEVELOPMENT  Franklyn MacCormack  =93Mind Development Sleep
Teaching Recording=94
PIANO, XYLOPHONE AND DRUMS  Nickelodeon Music  =93Razz-Ma-Tazz In H-Fi=94
IT TOOK A MIRACLE  Ralph Platt  =93The Birds Sing His Praise=94  (sacred
whistling)
MR. PEEPERS THEME  Bernie Green  =93Plays More Than You Can Stand In Hi-F=
i=94
SLUMBER NICE  Martha Wentworth  =93Terror Tales By The Old Sea Hag=94
PREPARATION FOR MARRIAGE  Dr. Rebecca Liswood  =93Hear How To Teach Your
Children The Facts Of Life=94



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From: Vernon Stoltz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Samples Schmemples
Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:11:00 GMT


The odd thing about samples and cover versions is that I often associate the
first version of a song as being the 'original' version, since it is the
first version that I can remember encountering in my life.  Believe it or
not, I was first exposed to the song "Ticket to Ride" via the Carpenter's
Greatest Hits album.  I was somewhat surprised when I finally heard the
Beatles original version and realized that it had reached the Number 1
position.  Although my mind can rationalize that the Beatle's version came
first, subjectively I still "feel" that the Carpenter version is the original.

I love it when I discover these "backward" cover versions....It's a way of
feeling closer to an artist you love by discovering his/her musical heritage.

My favorite example was when I discovered that Patti Smith, at the ending of
the 'Birdland' track on her 'Horses' album, used the same basic melody as
Chubby Checker's Top 40 hit "We Like Birdland"  There are times you just
don't expect any connections like these to exist, and it opens your eyes a
little when you become aware of them.

Pardon my discourse, I really should be studying for a midterm now and am
instead discovering the wonderful utility of procrastination that this
mailing list can provide.

Vern
. . . . . . . . . .
Vern Stoltz     Cannot Become Obsolete
                P.O. Box 1232  Lorton, VA  22199-1232



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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Samples Schmemples
Date: 13 Oct 1997 12:34:09 -0800


>
>I love it when I discover these "backward" cover versions....It's a way of
>feeling closer to an artist you love by discovering his/her musical
>heritage.
>

It's also strange, after listening to so much Exotic / SABPM stuff, to
be familiar with so many old standards but have no idea what the lyrics
are... at least that's how it is with me.  It's almost disorienting to
hear the straight-up pop recordings from the 30s & 40s of some of the
songs that became bizarre instrumental favorites later...

-Brian



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) WFMU now broadcasting on the web
Date: 13 Oct 1997 15:41:04 -0400


WFMU NOW BROADCASTING ON THE INTERNET

If you're a fan of adventurous non-commercial radio that mixes Space Age
Pop, Tuvan Cowboys, electronica, scratchy 78 rpm discs from the 1920s,
free jazz, the latest indie rock, 60s psychedelia, salsa, and
home-recorded cassettes found in thrift shops.....you might be
interested to know that WFMU's renowned free-form programming can now be
heard worldwide on the internet at:

http://www.wfmu.org
or
http://www.audionet.com/Radio/Public/Wfmu/

To hear WFMU, you need a 28.8 connection to the internet, and Realplayer
software, which can be downloaded FREE from either of the above sites.
Just click, follow instructions, and enjoy WFMU in all its eccentric
glory. [Note: Be prepared to endure a 20-second promotional soundbite
for Audionet before WFMU's signal kicks in.]

If you have problems receiving WFMU through the above links, e-mail:

<[e-mail]> or <[e-mail]>

Feel free to forward this to people who would appreciate it.
But please do not post to mailing lists or Usenet groups that you don't
participate
in.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) movie picks
Date: 13 Oct 1997 14:41:02 -0400


At my website I'm having a go at doing a weekly page listing and describing
interesting movies airing on TV. This is frankly subjective and unscientific,
and I'm sure there are widely available channels that I'm not covering (but I
talk about that in the intro). I guess you could say I'm taking a casual
approach to it. I apologize in advance to international list members for the
U.S. centrism of my coverage (also discussed on the page). Anyway -- this is
sort of an experiment to see how much of a chore this weekly thing is, and to
see if anyone bothers reading it. If you like it, let me know. Thank you. We
now return to your regular programming.

The link:
http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/

m.ace
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Who does a radio show ?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 14:33:59 -0700


I need to know who here does a radio show ?

I've discovered a new artist that I think will be greatly appreciated to
you and your listeners

I need your "air name" the name of your station and your address to have it
sent to.

It's a secret:)

Jack


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) What's that doggie music?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 22:25:59 -0400 (EDT)


Does anyone know the artist and song that is used in the commercial for the
Chevy mini-van type vehicle?

The commercial I am referring to is the one with the a dog dancing and
juggling in the back of the van.  Another doggie (friend?) comes up beside
him, and he stops the fun.  I just love the tune that plays in this
commercial.  It sounds like an old lounge type song.  I read the last 60
digests and did not see this mentioned.

Thanks, and I'll give my life story and intro soon.

Rocco


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Subject: (exotica) allow me to introduce myself...
Date: 13 Oct 1997 22:45:42 -0500 (CDT)


Hello!

    My name is Lisa, and I'm a Radio/TV/Film major and a French minor at a
university in Texas.   Though I'm pretty young, I love lounge/exotica/SABP
music.  I have a few old records, like ones by Martin Denny, Sergio Mendes &
Brasil '66, Bacharach, Mongo Santamaria, Les Baxter, Mancini, Getz/Gilberto,
and I am a loyal fan of Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass...I recently got his
autograph on my 5-record box set!  I also like new stuff such as Combustible
Edison, Komeda, Cardigans, James Taylor Quartet, Pizzicato 5, Squirrel Nut
Zippers, Stereolab, and I have the wonderful Serge Gainsbourg reissues...I
also like Francois Hardy and Mireille Mathieu.  I hope to soon get a specialty
radio show at my college station, KTCU (88.7 fm in Fort Worth), where I had a
"modern rock" show for 3 years...but I've petitioned to get a lounge show, so
maybe I'll have good news to report soon.  But I suppose I'd better stop
rambling now...thanks for reading, and I look forward to reading the list!

Lisa
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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Samples Schmemples
Date: 14 Oct 1997 02:52:58 -0400 (EDT)



Along those lines, it is almost disorienting hilarious to see/hear Bill
Murray doing his Lounge Singer Nick routines on Saturday Night Live, when
he would invent his own
lyrics/vocal treatments to instrumentals. (ie. 2001, Star Wars,
 M*A*S*H <made new lyrics>) Let me know of others....
Would anyone agree with me in saying that these sketches are some of the
funniest things you have ever seen?

bump


> It's also strange, after listening to so much Exotic / SABPM stuff, to
> be familiar with so many old standards but have no idea what the lyrics
> are... at least that's how it is with me.  It's almost disorienting to
> hear the straight-up pop recordings from the 30s & 40s of some of the
> songs that became bizarre instrumental favorites later...





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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who does a radio show ?
Date: 14 Oct 1997 03:37:50 -0400 (EDT)



> I need to know who here does a radio show ?


And along those lines....who here is making music or knows of someone who
is and is interested in getting an actual VINYL record made of it.
our little label here in Baltimore is ready to put it out if we like
it....we are no Hit Factory and rarely make a dime and are operating in
the red but we are doing our
damned-est to Save the Vinyl but put out some groovy tunes while doing
so...
contact me privately.
thanx bump

while i have your attention...i just bought a double vinyl lp called "The
Mood Mosaic Vol.2 Barnie's Grooves" with a great photo of Clint Eastwood
as Dirty Harry on the cover.
it is on Stone Records from Italy.
very cool crime themes....
the reason i bought it is because the first song is Baretta's Theme by
Sammy Davis Jr. i cannot tell you how long i been looking for this.
sampled by the Beastie Boys (Dust Brothers) on "Shake Your Rump".
the second reason i bought it was it had a song by Alexandro Jodorowsky
called "The Desert is a Circle". it starts out very obnoxious with
horrible horn playing and then it busts into some heavy grooviness a'la
Vampyros Lesbos. the cut is 7:40.
one drag about the lp is there is a label track info vs. the actual tracks
let me clarify by saying side one lists 5 tracks while the record itself
only has 4 therefore throwing off everything by 1.
same for the jacket

the rest of the songs are:
Sanford and Sons- Bobby Forester
Evil Ways- Ernie Wilknes
The Streets of San Francisco- Henry Mancini
They Call Me Mister Tibbs- Quincy Jones
The Generation Gap- Rock Steady
Super Soul Theme- J.B. Pickers
Super Strut- Port Authority
Theme from Starsky and Hutch- Blockbuster
The Landlord- Al Kooper
Executive Party-Andre Previn (i think that is from the Rollerball sndtrk)
Ruth Down (and get it)- Jimmy Smith
Mission Impossible- 4SOUND Orchestra
Bullit- Road Runner
Bullit- Contract Man

also bought new vinly reissues of James Brown "Sex Machine" and
"Slaughters Big Rip-Off"

P.S. and the new Puff Daddy.


As Jim Morrison would say   "ALL-RRIIGGHHHTTT" seeya

bump



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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Trips
Date: 14 Oct 1997 10:53:19 -0400


Hi, folks:

I'm just back from Sydney, Australia, where I had a wonderful 10
days.  I kept missing the various exotica-type events, but managed
to troll my way through most of the thrift stores (or "op shops", as they're
known there), finding a range of nice things. Burt Kaempfert's "A Swingin
Safari" seems
ubiquitous there, more common than Herb Alpert albums in North America.

  I also met  some very nice people  (Hi, Brent)  If you're out there,
go to The Look, on King Street in Newtown, and  say hello to Phil, the
manager.
He doesn't sell records, but he's very into  lounge/exotica, has a nice
display of
records in the window, and anxious to talk to others with similar interests.

I'm going to Pittsburgh on the weekend of the 23rd -- any suggestions on
stores/events/etc.?

Will
Will Straw

Associate Professor
Graduate Program in Communications
McGill University
3465 rue Peel,
Montreal, Quebec
H3A 1W7

Phone: [phone]; Fax: [phone]
http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/

Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and
Institutions
http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/

Co-editor.  Topia:  A Journal of Canadian and Cultural Studies
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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) some recent finds
Date: 14 Oct 1997 18:41:31 +-200


Geoff Love - Close Encounters
Eddie Osborn - Baldwin Organ & Bongos
Doris Day - Greatest Hits (depression buster)
Martin Denny - Latin Village
Perez Prado; Shorty Rogers - Voodoo Suite (another two copies for Christmas)

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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Moog Shoes
Date: 10 Oct 1997 09:46:48 +-200




----------
Sent:     10 October 1997 08:19


Here in Japan, I've seen shoes with the brand name "Moog".

I wonder if they squeak?

Charl


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FW: Sukia....
Date: 10 Oct 1997 09:39:10 +-200




----------
Sent:     10 October 1997 03:12

       =20
        I just saw a photo of Tipsy in the October issue of The Wire.=20
        I thought they were some kind of exotic orchestra, but it's=20
        just two unshaven young white guys. One of them has a dodgy=20
        Hawaiian shirt, the other is in a crushed up tracksuit top.Are=20
        there no standards left? BTW, who are Sukia and is their LP on=20
        vinyl?
       =20
        Senor Bamboo

Sukia is a side project for  two well known trip hop artists. They sound =
a bit like Tipsy in places but have a more 90's feel to their music. =
This is evident in their sense of humor, which is entertaining, but =
gives itself away especially when the sex jokes are of a more 90's than =
retro standard. After a while it all becomes a bit samey....bossa hip =
hop , sexy samples etc. It does however somehow make me think of that =
weird little alien band in (I think) the Dark Crystal movie!

I'd definately go for Tipsy though. When I listened to it for the first =
time I laughed often! Picture Martin Denny, Space Pop ala Esquivel, =
Perez Prado etc. Unexpected Kettle Drums with an ascending sustain; more =
melody, less of a 'dark' feel to it; "authentic" would be a =
contradiction in terms. All up to your perspective I suppose...

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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FW: sampling
Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:56:03 +-200




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Sent:     12 October 1997 12:55


 why sample all=20
        your percussion when you could work with some teenage=20
        bongo-meister who could make the music more quirky, less=20
        metronomic, more alive?

I think it's sad but seemingly the real reason for the decline in =
creation of music with large amounts of people and their instruments is =
MONEY (& perhaps technology). So sadly we miss out on music with that =
synergetic energy. One can feel that vibe almost spiritualy, like a =
sixth sense. Not?

Charl=20


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) An old posting Brent did not get?
Date: 12 Oct 1997 22:19:42 +-200




----------
Sent:     10 October 1997 03:12

       =20
        I just saw a photo of Tipsy in the October issue of The Wire.=20
        I thought they were some kind of exotic orchestra, but it's=20
        just two unshaven young white guys. One of them has a dodgy=20
        Hawaiian shirt, the other is in a crushed up tracksuit top.Are=20
        there no standards left? BTW, who are Sukia and is their LP on=20
        vinyl?
       =20
        Senor Bamboo

Sukia is a side project for  two well known trip hop artists. They sound =
a bit like Tipsy in places but have a more 90's feel to their music. =
This is evident in their sense of humor, which is entertaining, but =
gives itself away especially when the sex jokes are of a more 90's than =
retro standard. After a while it all becomes a bit samey....bossa hip =
hop , sexy samples etc. It does however somehow make me think of that =
weird little alien band in (I think) the Dark Crystal movie!

I'd definately go for Tipsy though. When I listened to it for the first =
time I laughed often! Picture Martin Denny, Space Pop ala Esquivel, =
Perez Prado etc. Unexpected Kettle Drums with an ascending sustain; more =
melody, less of a 'dark' feel to it; "authentic" would be a =
contradiction in terms. All up to your perspective I suppose...

Charl


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) FW: sampling
Date: 14 Oct 1997 13:48:37 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-14 13:26:11 EDT, Charl wrote:

<< I think it's sad but seemingly the real reason for the decline in creation
of music with large amounts of people and their instruments is MONEY (&
perhaps technology).  >>
Here in the USA I believe it has to do also with lack of parental involvement
in the musical training of kids.  At some point it became acceptible to let
the kids practice when they feel like it, with no pressure to excel, only to
"have fun".  Despite the incredible advances in technology/society/whatever,
the level of musicianship has declined dramatically.  (Just turn on the radio
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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) Tipsy/Esquivel
Date: 14 Oct 1997 10:55:32 PDT


I have to put in my two cents in favor of Tipsy, simply because their
use of sampling goes beyond simple rip-off and I think recontextualizes (to
pull a word from an earlier post) the original material in an immensely
creative and fresh way.

Now, given that many posts here have mentioned the decline in live
performance and "real" instruments (anyone who cares to know why, just
call your local BMI rep and ask what studio rates for a day-long
recording session go for per musician) and Bro. Cleve's mention that
Esquivel is working on new projects, and that (do you all see where I'm
going with this) Esquivel, I had heard has a computer now? (Again, from
this list I believe) - can Esquivel's New Directions in Drum and Bass
be very far off? I really hope not. I for one would love to see what
his genius could do with today's technology.

Please, Mr. Cleve, tell us that my dream could become reality. Let's take
up a collection for Juan Garcia Esquivel's Kurzeil 2500.

Clark


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From: Tim Justice <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [e-mail]  (This is the address)
Date: 14 Oct 1997 13:12:56 -0700




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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) radio as proof?
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:19:18 PDT


ChuckTFrog wrote:

Here in the USA I believe it has to do also with lack of parental involvement
in the musical training of kids.  At some point it became acceptible to let
the kids practice when they feel like it, with no pressure to excel, only to
"have fun".  Despite the incredible advances in technology/society/whatever,
the level of musicianship has declined dramatically.  (Just turn on the radio
for proof)


-------------------

I don't turn on my radio for anything except to prove that my radio works (and
to listen to Jack Diamond when I'm in San Francisco). I'm being flip of
course, but where's the correlation between music education and radio, which
for the most part is a commercial advertising medium aimed at the widest
(and therefore, necessarily the most bland, derivative, and appropriatably
melodic) audience?

The relationship between the musician and radio is so distant and full of
filters (record labels, advertising dollars, audience demographic, and
so on) that I really wouldn't make any such determination.

Many people on this list are amazing musicians, well-trained, some even use
samplers! Many of these amazing musucians are in their 20s. I wonder
why the discussions on this list have turned to such a kids versus
curmudgeons tone?

Sorry for my spelling errors - UNIX mail is so unforgiveable.

Clark


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tipsy/Esquivel
Date: 14 Oct 1997 14:12:44 -0400 (EDT)


<< Now, given that many posts here have mentioned the decline in live
 performance and "real" instruments (anyone who cares to know why, just
 call your local BMI rep and ask what studio rates for a day-long
 recording session go for per musician) >>

Isn't that a ridiculous notion:  that musicians ought to get paid for doing
recordings!

Do you think people just pick up instruments and start to play them?

When you drive through the expensive homes in your community (wherever that
may be) do you see musicians living there?

Or maybe lawyers and accountants (and producers) should be the only ones to
make $$ in the music business?

Musicians work long and hard and invest a lot (time, money) in their careers.
 Please don't begrudge us an income.

Regards,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) possible names for my possible radio show
Date: 14 Oct 1997 15:34:30 -0500 (CDT)


Hi again...thanks to all that have written to me since my first post.
I was wondering, does anyone have a good idea for a swank name for my radio
show?  I plan to play a mix of 60's lounge w/new stuff that can be called
"lounge-influenced"...so far I've only got "Lisa's Metropical Hour" and "Shabam
Pow Plop Whizzz" (from Gainsbourg's "Comic Strip").  But I've only thought of
it for about an hour, so I guess I should ponder it some more.  If it were on
saturday, I'd call it "Saturday Sunshine," but I think it might be on Sundays.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Lisa
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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) some recent finds
Date: 14 Oct 1997 22:50:31 +-200


In a message dated 97-10-14 12:48:56 EDT, you write:

<< Martin Denny - Latin Village >>

Is this record any good?  what's the play list?

I cannot find a release date but if I guess mid sixties. Four of the =
twelve tracks I know as standards. It is however the choice of =
instruments and arrangements that make it a pleasure to have this record =
in my collection. It's Martin Denny at his most Bossa Jazz extreme.=20

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tipsy/Esquivel
Date: 14 Oct 1997 23:24:03 -0400


At 10:55 AM -0700 10/14/97, Clark Scheffy wrote:

>Please, Mr. Cleve, tell us that my dream could become reality. Let's take
>up a collection for Juan Garcia Esquivel's Kurzeil 2500.

That would be nice. I was trying to get him an endoresment deal with them,
but it seems to have fallen through. He wanted to get a computer a few
years ago, but never did. The fine folks at Opcode were kind enough to send
him Studio Vision software, so maybe someday......

Esquivel, being a true musician, enjoys most every form of music. I've
played him tracks by Bjork and Dimitri From Paris that contain samples from
Latin-Esque, and he is flattered by it. He loved my "Casa" remix of
"Miniskirt", and watches TV shows which feature techno banda, as it's
refered to in Mexico. Essentially, he likes anything that is "up to date",
as he would say.

A few years ago I brought a sampler and sequencer to his home, and we
played around and came up with a couple of short pieces. He enjoyed it
quite a bit. Those who have heard his "Burbujas" television soundtracks
know that he did a lot of work with synthesizers on it. That said, his new
arrangements are being written by hand on 64 stave manuscript paper, which
is how he's written for the last 60 years.

...........so maybe we'll do a remix album.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The color of music
Date: 15 Oct 1997 00:29:15 -0400


* * * * * * * * *

Brent Clough  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>    As the one who started some of the Tipsy talk by slagging
>    their satorial shortcomings may I say I actually enjoy 'their'
>    music quite a bit.... What I was having a dig at was the unfortunate
>    reality that so many of these electronica outfits, no matter
>    how smart their music might be, are invariably comprised of
>    two kinda washed-out & cynical-looking white guys.

Hey, Brent:

What does "white" music sound like? I've always wondered what sort of
genius it takes to determine that certain musical qualities have a
racial component.

--Irwin Chusid

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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The color of music
Date: 15 Oct 1997 11:27:08 +-200


so many of these electronica outfits, no matter=20
>    how smart their music might be, are invariably comprised of=20
>    two kinda washed-out & cynical-looking white guys.

Hey, Brent:=20
What does "white" music sound like? I've always wondered what sort of
genius it takes to determine that certain musical qualities have a
racial component.
--Irwin Chusid

I think Brent was referring to a musical stereotype. Brian Eno said a =
nerd is someone with not enough Africa in them. I think Africa means a =
funky element or soul that sometimes lacks in especially European pop =
music. It cannot be a coincidence that music made by black people is =
often more funky? F.e. most rock groups are white and most R&B artists =
are black. I don't think it is a racist issue but more of a genre and =
cultural occurrence.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The color of music - a budding debate?
Date: 15 Oct 1997 06:35:10 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-15 05:36:57 EDT, you write:

<< Hey, Brent:
 What does "white" music sound like? I've always wondered what sort of
 genius it takes to determine that certain musical qualities have a
 racial component.
 --Irwin Chusid

 I think Brent was referring to a musical stereotype. Brian Eno said a nerd
is someone with not enough Africa in them. I think Africa means a funky
element or soul that sometimes lacks in especially European pop music. It
cannot be a coincidence that music made by black people is often more funky?
F.e. most rock groups are white and most R&B artists are black. I don't think
it is a racist issue but more of a genre and cultural occurrence.

 Charl>>

I got to agree with Charl on this one.  And stereotype is not a bad word
here.  Different cultural groups tend to polorize towards specific types of
music.

As for me?  Exotica flows through my veins!

I love these little debates that spring up from time to time.  Where is
Micheleflp, Ashley and Rothenberg when you need them?  This is just a joke
guys!  Let the music play on!


Regards,

Robert
"Stereotypical Exotica Nut" - socio/demographic information available on
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From: Georg Zoche <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotic Trilogy (KBZ 200) CD's, Munich Exotica
Date: 15 Oct 1997 08:36:01 -0400


Hello!

This is Georg Zoche from Munich. I'm following this list for a while now
and think it's time to introduce myself. I work as a aircraft diesel
engineer (www.zoche.de), am a Pasta Aficionado
(http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/arrabbiata) and a part time
exotica-schmaltzalarm-DJ (Capt. Nemo).
Some time ago someone on this list was looking for the Exotica Trilogy CD's
from the KBZ 200 project. (the 12 hour vaxation-event 'Excavated Jewels of
Ersatz Exoticism). I happened to talk to Gordon from KBZ on the phone
yesterday, as they're coming to Munich for the SpielArt festival to perform
this Friday (Oct 17). He gave me two e-mail addresses where you could try
to find the Exotic Trilogy CD's: [e-mail] (that's the label) or
[e-mail] (the US distributor)
In case any of you are in Munich these days, go and see their show Return
to Rented Lagoon! Also, I will start with a DJ friend of mine a new Exotica
Night in the Waikiki Bar on Neureutherstreet next Thursday at 8 pm (Oct.
23rd). The Waikiki is Munich 2nd oldest cocktail bar, has the biggest
collection of blowfish lights I've seen so far, three big aquariums,
stuffed sharks, tiki masks etc...

Thanks for the space - Georg


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The color of music
Date: 15 Oct 1997 08:08:58 -0700


Where's the fire extinguisher in this place ?


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Blaxploitation
Date: 15 Oct 1997 09:05:05 -0700


OK.  I got my boxin' gloves on now.  Go ahead

Gimme your best shot!


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Who Does a DJ Gig ?
Date: 15 Oct 1997 09:29:59 -0700


Hello again,

I have been instructed to find out here who does a live DJ gig for this new
wonderful artist who just released a cd

It's incredible Production/Soundtracky type o' sounds
You'll like it A LOT!  I mean ___A_____ _____LOT___

Send me your name and where you want the CD sent
The name of the Club you DJ at and the name of your "gig"

Cleve, Jack, Count, Johan.....whomever worldwide!!!

Jack


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Yet More Booty
Date: 15 Oct 1997 13:32:13 -0400


Ahoy exoticans. . . I've been out and about, trolling some new SE Michgan
flea markets and thrift stores lately. . .

I'm getting seriously backlogged in listening to things I've brought home.
(Partly because of bringing home a huge box of about 90 LPs I would call
"the cutouts of 1969"--but that is another story). But here are a few
notable ones:


_Double Impact_ (Ray Martin Arr., Buddy Morrow Cond.) RCA. Wonderful TV
themes circa 1959-60. Several outstanding Crime Jazz numbers ("Johnny
Staccato," "The Lineup," "The Untouchables," "International Detective"),
plus the wild exoti-crime jazz "Hawaiian Eye." Includes a weird-ass
arrangement of the "Bonanza" theme, with jumped-up rhythm (almost
polka-fied!) and goofy lyrics: "We've got a right/ To pick a little fight/
Bonan-ZAAA!!" Definitely recommended.

_Mrs Miller's Greatest Hits_, Capitol.  You have all had the pleasure, yes?
Her version of "Chim Chim Cher-ee" (with attempted cockney accent) is one
truly paint-peeling musical experience. So my question is, does anyone know
whether Mrs. M was *genuinely* that frightening a singer, or was it all a
big put-on?

_The Electric Symphony_ (Ralph Carmichael), Light Records. Nominally, a
Moog Christian record!--in fact since it's all instrumental originals, it
just comes across as happy Moog pop and EZ listening. Pleasantly goofy, but
not a must--although there are some good liner notes predicting Moogs will
soon be common in Sunday services, to appeal to "the transistorized ears of
the younger generation."

Songs of Couch and Consultation (Katie Lee, lyrics by Bud Freeman),
Commentary Records. Exotica value, just about nil--but this was featured in
the first RE/search book and CD. What's strange is that while the lyrics
are attempted topical humor about psychoanalysis, the arrangements and
Katie Lee's forceful singing are done completely straight. An oddball
concept, I'm not sure it works for me.

_Swingin' with Prince Igor and Tannhauser_ (Skip Martin), Sommerset. Oh
man, talk about strange concepts! This lurches unpredictably between a
standard orchestral performance of the Polovtsian Dances (side one) and
Tannhauser (side two) and "driving jazz statements in sympathetic contrast
to [their] original old-world form." Yeah, right. A tour de force in its
own twisted way, but I can't imagine who would ever have listened to this.
The pinnacle for me is about 30 seconds where that one really apocalyptic
Polovtsian dance (sorry, I'm not sure how they're named) gets converted
into a "Sing Sing Sing"-type jazz stomp.  At least they didn't call this
one "Polovtsian Percussion"!

_Hawaiian Percussion_ (Billy Mure), Strand. I had some tracks from this on
a later budget compilation, so I was ecstatic to find the original. Mure's
"Hawaiian War Chant" with its weird little plonking persussion sounds (I
think it's on one of the RE/Search CDs) is indeed quite fabulous.
Unfortunately Strand Records must have been total cheeseballs, because this
is one of the WORST pressings ever. The surface noise is awful, the mix
doesn't make any sense until you turn the balance knob over to about 4
o'clock. . . and there is this huge, vinyl. . . ZIT. . . in one of the
bands. I mean, I've seen losta little craters before--but this is an
actual, stylus-destroying Outie. Mure is one guy who really deserves a
decent reissue someday, assuming anyone can get their hands on his original
tapes.


BITTER DISAPPOINMENT DEPT:

I saw this bound album of three 10" disks called something like "the Sound
of the Novachord"--not clear whether they were originally 33s or 78s,
because NONE of the three disks inside were the correct ones. Grrrrr! A
photo on the cover showed the layout of the Novachord's tone controls.

Does anyone have this? I was heartbroken because I'm a big fan of the
Novachord, Hammond's attempt to make an all-electronic organ way back in
1939. It used tube oscillators (e.g. no tone wheels), and in a way it was
the first recognizable electronic synthesizer. But an organ with ~100 tubes
was rather fragile and unreliable, so needless to say Hammond gave up on
making them pretty quickly. Some of it's timbres are so wonderfully sci-fi
that I always like to hear it played--it features prominently on George
Cate's masterpiece _Polynesian Percussion_.


Anyway, happy trawling,

 --Ross

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Phuture Lounge playlist - 12 Oct
Date: 15 Oct 1997 11:52:17 -0600


Exoticats,

Here's the playlist for last week's show. One more show to go before I
leave. It ran on 106.2 FM8, Glasgow, Scotland on Sunday, Oct. 12, 1-4pm.
Hosted by yours truly, DJ Mingo-go...

TINO CONTREras "Brazil"
MONTEFIORI COCKTAIL "Gipsy Woman"
RAY ANTHONY "Samba de Orfeu"
TAK SHINDO "Caravan"
BERT KAEMPFERT "Mambo Mania"
CHAQUITO "The Name of the Game"
LALO SCHIFRIN "Secret Code"
SERGIO MENDES & BRASIL 66 "Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay"
ENNIO MORRICONE "Le Foto Proibite Di Una Signora Per Bene"
AIR "Cassanova 70"
SPIRIT OF VAMPIROS LESBOS - De Chico "Future Fruit"
BOB CREWE "Pygor's Persecution/The Black Queen's Beads"
PIERO UMILIANI "Topless Party"
JIMI TENOR "Shore Hotel"
ROBERTO CORADO "Maze"
ANGELO BADALAMENTI "The Pine Float"
JOHN BARRY "Danny Scipio Theme"
LALO SCHIFRIN "Scorpio"
LESIMAN "Moto Centripeto"
THE FREE DESIGN "Make the Madness Stop"
THE PENNYPIPERS "Penelope"
NANCY SINATRA "Lightning's Girl"
HENRY MANCINI "The Party"
SERGE GAINSBOURG "Qui est 'in', qui est 'out'"
ENOCH LIGHT "Pass, I Call You"
ROLAND SHAW & HIS ORCHESTRA "The Look of Love"
CHRIS MONTEZ "The Look of Love"
BILLY MAY & HIS ORCHESTRA "The Look of Love"
CLAUDINE LONGET "Meditation"
MARI "My Favourite Things"
WANDA DE SAH "So Danco Samba"
ESQUIVEL "Latin-esque"
A. SAMPEDRO "La Bimbo"
FRANCESCO DE MASI & A. MESSANDRONI "Tema Di Londra M. 1"
SID RAMIN "Stiletto"
PIERO UMILIANI "Samba Mah-Na"
HUGO MONTENEGRO "Jungle Beat"
MARTIN DENNY "Love Me Tonight" (moog)
MOOG COOKBOOK "Black Hole Sun"
HAJIME TACHIBANA "Moog Power"
PETER THOMAS "Agent X"
ENOCH LIGHT "Mas Que Nada"
HOT BUTTER "Popcorn"
BRIGITTE BARDOT "Te Veux, Te Veux Pas"
VAMPIROS LESBOS "Droge CK 9"
FRANCO DE GEMINI & A. ALESSANDRONI "Bossa Beat"
VENTURES "Flights of Fantasy"
KLAUS DOLDINGER "Sitar Beat"
LALO SCHIFRIN "The Plot"
THE THREE SUNS "Fever"
EARTHA KITT "The Way You Are"
MAURICE POP "77 Sunset Strip"
JUMBO "The Boy from Ipanema"
GIAN FRANCO REVERBERI "Le Malizie Di Venere Seq. 4"
KENYON HOPKINS "Hard Latin"
DICK HYMAN "Caravan"
THE MERRICKS "Un Poco De Plop"



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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) pierre henry
Date: 15 Oct 1997 17:25:47 +0000


Ed Maurer has a terrific discography site for that electonic concrete
innovator Pierre Henry.  It includes info on multiple releases and
cover scans (ogle the beautiful metallic op designs on the
perspective de siecle series)   mmmm....  wallpaper!

http://www.tddc.net/emaurer/PierreHenry/index.htm






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) What's up with 45's?
Date: 15 Oct 1997 18:30:44 -0400 (EDT)


I went to this weird thrift-type store today which had 75 or 100 lps (nothing
of interest) and 500,000 45's!  Well, I've never bought 45's but took a look
anyway for the hell of it.  After a cursory look I found three that I bought,
because they're in great shape, although in plain paper sleeves, and I just
couldn't see leaving 'em behind.
         Martin Denny - La Paloma/Call Me (two of these)
         Esquivel - Begin the Beguine/It Had to be You
So, are these things worth anything?  People must collect these things,
right?  I'd like to trade 'em for something I really want, I reckon.



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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The color of music
Date: 16 Oct 1997 01:00:11 +-200


Are you black, Jack?

Charl



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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The color of music
Date: 15 Oct 1997 16:16:58 -0700


At 01:00 AM 10/16/97 +-200, you wrote:
>
>Are you black, Jack?
>
>Charl

Nope,

I'm a white New York Jew:)

I have been accused of that from being on the other side of the radio though

-J



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From: "Brent Clough [phone]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) colour of music
Date: 16 Oct 1997 09:51:21 +1000




        Irwin writes:


        >Hey Brent:

        >What does "white" music sound like? I've always wondered
        >what sort of genius it takes to determine that certain
        >musical qualities have a racial component.

        > --Irwin Chusid





        Irwin,
         Dunno what white music sounds like exactly - Moondog or
        Motorhead? - but I sure know what a white guy looks like.
        I should do, I am one @:-)
         If you'd given my posting a proper read you'd have realised I
        didn't essentialise race at all. In fact I think Exotica is a
        haven for genuine cross-cultural collaboration, a place where
        cultural differences can be rehearsed, re-routed and
        re-presented with a lot of joy and humour all round.
         That there are different 'racialised cultures' (if not races)
        is kinda accepted these days. In case you hadn't noticed a lot
        of people in your country and around the world feel happy to
        talk about "Black music". But I guess you wouldn't do that
        Irwin. You'd leave that up to the geniuses amongst us. After
        all, for you racial culture is irrelevant in music. We're all
        one universal happy family when it comes to a tune. Yeah, and
        Deborah harry invented rap, right?

        Brent





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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) The color of music
Date: 15 Oct 1997 18:52:40 -0800


>
>I think Brent was referring to a musical stereotype. Brian Eno said a nerd
>is someone with not enough Africa in them. I think Africa means a funky
>element or soul that sometimes lacks in especially European pop music. It
>cannot be a coincidence that music made by black people is often more
>funky? F.e. most rock groups are white and most R&B artists are black. I
>don't think it is a racist issue but more of a genre and cultural occurrence.
>
>Charl
>

Hmmm, this one's a real minefield.  The danger about espousing the
'funky' or 'soul' theory is that it can work very much as a detriment
to black musicians, although it's usually brought up innocently in a
positive way.  I remember reading a couple of really interesting
articles on the subject during the past year -- maybe they were in the
New York Press following the the brouhaha over a negative review of
DJ Spooky; I can't remember.  In any case the writers' concern was
that black musicians who pursue a creative course that is off the
beaten path often face a really tough battle for acceptance-- they
find their work rejected by _both_ the white and black communities
for the same reason: it's not 'black' enough.  DJ Spooky was cited
as an example of this, as someone creating a very experimental and
intellectualized sort of art which has resulted in many people
reacting to him as a 'poser' or 'charlatan', where a white performer
doing the same thing might find a more hospitable reception.  This
seems to be a pretty valid point to me, notwithstanding however that
DJ Spooky could indeed be a poser and charlatan after all.  I've just
become much more wary of applying the old handy racial generaliz-
ations to music, even if they seem fitting or complimentary, seeing
how a compliment can become a pigeon-hole.

As for exotica, I always have to lift an eyebrow when I hear it
affered up as an example of the meeting of western & non-western
music; it's always seemed to me to be white america's comic-book
interpretation of the rest of the world.  That doesn't make me
like it any less; on the contrary, I enjoy it shamelessly on it's
own terms!  Which is what I think any form of music deserves, and
why I feel a great amount of resentment towards many music
critics and scholars who filter their experience and opinions of
music through externalized value systems and politics.  Anyhow
we've been through that before on some previous threads...

This does make me think of something else, though, which is that
around the same time that American musicians were beginning to
self-consciously introduce 'exotic' influences into their work,
the traditional musics of many other countries were beginning to
be seriously influenced by western pop music.  An interesting
parallelism, but I can't say i've looked into it very deeply;
I'd be interested in hearing some thoughts on this...

-Brian



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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) Pierre Henry
Date: 15 Oct 1997 18:50:29 PDT


Regarding Kevin's post,

I just got 2 of the perspective de siecle series releases from a friend in
Paris: Pierre Henry's "Le Voyage" which is fucking incredible, and Pierre
Schaeffer's "Etude des Objets" - incredible indeed. I got them site unseen
and could not believe the coverrrrssss.

I can't recommend "Le Voyage" enough - some of the best and most
emotionally involving 20th Century electronic music out there.

Clark


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The color of music
Date: 15 Oct 1997 18:51:10 -0700


Ask any rekkid label or company what color is ANY of their music and they
will tell you it is GREEN.

Right all YOU LABEL GUYS out there ?

And some producers too. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, wonder who that could be

Jack


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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) color of music
Date: 15 Oct 1997 18:53:25 PDT


How about we ask Ken Nordine to tell us?

Clark


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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The color of music
Date: 15 Oct 1997 23:51:59 -0400 (EDT)



>
> Ask any rekkid label or company what color is ANY of their music and they
> will tell you it is GREEN.
>
> Right all YOU LABEL GUYS out there ?


    well all of our records are BLACK, vinyl.

    bump (Defective Records)



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Big Mess Orchestra
Date: 15 Oct 1997 19:57:19 -0400


With the caveat that I'm friends with some of the players, and so, not entirely
impartial here, you may enjoy this new disc...

Big Mess Orchestra (Plungerboy Music)

Big Mess requires a bit of explanation, as it's not an average band situation.
Although the cover photo (a pair of comedy performers from the cast) may make
this look like lounge exploitation bandwagon-jumping of the worst order, Big
Mess has actually been staging cabaret events around Philadelphia since 1991
(with their roots going back to '87). With players numbering in the mid-teens
(quantity, not age), the orchestra backs a rotating cast of singers, dancers,
vaudeville comedians, poets and other performers, including mistress of
ceremonies, Carlota Ttendant. Elaborate costumes and simple, but effective set
constructions are also part of the show. The disc was recorded largely because
they wanted a souvenir of what they've been doing, and is a mixture of live and
studio recordings. I have a feeling that the studio material was recorded
basically live also (I know they didn't have the budget for anything too
elaborate in the recording process).

It's difficult for me to describe the music, as it is fearsomely eclectic. I
would not describe them as "lounge" for that reason, but they also intersect
with much that is loved on this list. There is an element of pit orchestra,
along with jazz and the style of such artists as Nino Rota and Kurt Weil.
There's also a rock element now and then, but usually just as an additional
flavor (but you are warned, if you are phobic about that sort of thing). There
are a few originals, but it is mostly very diverse covers. "No Moon At All" was
learned direct from a Julie London record. "Some Weird Sin" (Iggy/Bowie) and
"Baltimore Oriole" (Hoagy Carmichael) receive mellow jazz treatments, with some
gorgeous female vocals. Such material as "Smoke On The Water", "Give It Away"
and "Sympathy For The Devil" look like really idiotic choices in print here,
but leader, Andy Bresnan's arrangements really make them work (you won't
believe how well "Smoke..." works as a cha cha). Regional goin'-to-the-shore
chestnut, "On The Way To Cape May" becomes a Mick Ronson production, of all
things. Not diverse enough? How about covers of Beethoven and Schoenberg? Or
the swing-jazz take on "Habanera (from Carmen)" sung in operatic style by
Vincenzo Tortellini. There's even a stylish take of "I Think I Love You". Oh,
regarding a recent thread, there are zero samplers to be heard here. Heck, the
only keyboard is on an accordion. Also lots of marimba and little bit of vibes.
Excellent liner notes, packed with photos -- more like a re-issue from, say,
Varese Sarabande than your average new release. Nice bonus.

Unfortunately, it does not have wide distribution. It's supposed to be
available in Philly area Tower stores. Perhaps one near you would be able to
special order it from their brethren. There may be a website soon. But in the
meantime, here's a snail mail address:

Plungerboy Music
c/o 2300 Walnut St.
No. 612
Philadelphia, PA 19103

Sorry to go on at such length, but it's impossible to describe this thing
briefly (no, I'm not getting a kickback). Did I mention "More Than A Feeling"
done in a lush EZ style? And it's not just a dumb joke -- it works really well.

m.ace
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack
Date: 15 Oct 1997 23:34:18 -0700


        KFJC play list 8/31/97 for Jack Diamond

          ARTIST                           TRACK                  ALBUM
         The Planets                       Chunky                 45 Rpm
         Chico Hamilton Qnt                Caravan                World Pacific, 58

         Jerry Fielding Orch               Hide and Seek          S C O R P I O
                                           Underground
         Esquivel                          Moonlight Enchantment  To Love Again, 1957
         Ray Brown Orch
         Arranged By Q. Jones                 The Adventurers
         Written By A.C. Jobim             Fat Cat Strut          Pete Christlieb-Tnr

        Don Sebesky with                  Martian Storm/

        Dick Hyman-Moog                   Soul Lady              Distant Galaxy

        Frontier                          Space Invaders         Heater
         Jack Hammer                       L I K E                Beat Jazz
         Frank Comstock Orch.W/                                   Warner Bros 1962
         Paul Tanner-Theremin              From Another World

        Robert De Niro                    Diary of a Taxi Driver......Ooooooooooh...
         John Barry Orch                   The Human Jungle

        Vincent Price                     Voice From the Grave

        Dissvelt, Tom/Kid Baltan          Moon Maid
        Song of the Second Moon        Brilliant Genius LP!!!


        Elmer Bernstein Orch              Deadly Game            Staccato Tv Score
         Dudley Moore                      Sweet Mouth            Bedazzled!
         Soulful Strings                   Inner Light

         Joe Williamns!            Wrap Your Troubles in          Basie Orch., 63
                                           Dreams
         Roy Lanahm                Lover Come Back to Me!         Dolton, Stereo!

         West Coast Workshop           In the Merry Old Land
                                       of Oz/Ozwind                 Capitol

         Phil Upchurch                 Cold Sweat!
         Frank Hunter                  White Goddess                  Kapp
         Ennio Morricone               Love                           1 Minute, 39 Secs

         Sounds for Little Ones    The Happy Dragon's             1 Min 18 Secs
                                       Tongue
         Chop Shop                 Jazz & Drums                   Hip Hop Collage
         Bob Mersey/Det Moore      Fat Boy
         Chet Baker Big Band       Rebel at Work                  Leith Stevens
         W/ Bud Shank

        High Llamas, the          Leterature Is Fluff            Hawaii
         Lord Sitar                Blue Jay Way

        101 Strings Orch. W/
         Bebe Bardon - Voice       Love Is Blue                   Andre Popp

        Walter Sear               In My Life                     Moog the Beatles
         Russ Case                 Sabre Dance                    Vik, 56
         Jack Zimmerman            Pick Yourself Up               Golden Crest
         Quincy Jones &
         Don Elliot Voices         Happy Feet                     Walk Don't Run
         Stanly Myers              Kaleidescope                   Stereo!, Finally;-)
         Fleur De Lys              Circles
         Esquivel                  Spellbound                     Sam Hoffman-Theremin
         Nat Adderly Sextet        Cancer                         Rick Holmes-Word
         Russ Garcia Orch          Volcanoes of Mercury           Liberty
         Kantor, Igo/Loose,
         William                   Franklin and Cherry            [coll]: Russ Meyer
         Hotel Easy                San Francisco Beat!
         The Genius of Them All    Zoo Chase                      Arabesque

        Link Wray Live 1974       R U M B L E !!!
         Record Plant-Sausalito

        Peter Howell Orch         Doctor Who Theme               45 Rpm original theme

        Pete Rugolo Orch.          Diamond On The Move            1958

KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
Http://www.kfjc.org

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Another Playlist for Jack
Date: 15 Oct 1997 23:46:17 -0700


KFJC play list 8/7/97 for Jack Diamond in a 2PM-6PM Thursday afternoon kind
of way

            ARTIST                  TRACK                     ALBUM
____________________________________________________________________________
____

         Don Julian               Savage                     1973 Soundtrack
         Things of Nownow         Tanzen Verboten            Nownowism
         Julie Cruise             The Nightingale            Twin Peaks
         Allen, Davie & the                              Born Losers/Glory
         Arrows                   The Glory Stompers         Stompers Thm
         Det Moore Orchestra      Jazz Dramatique

         Hyman, Dick              Topless Dancers of Corfu   Moog, the Electric
                                                             Eclectics
         Pierro Piccioni          Beer, Vermouth & Gin

         Outrageous Cherry        Genevieve                  Nothing's Gonna Cheer You
                                                         Up
         Don Helms                Big News
         Flaming Lips             Frogs
         Silver Apples            Oscillations               Kapp
         Barry Grey Orch          Stingray
         Bugskull                 Winkys Wild Ride           Distracted Snowflake
         Gainsbourg,Serge        Requiem Pour Un Twisteur   Du Jazz Dans Le Ravin
         Nora Orlandi             Riffa Cha Cha              Armando Travajoli
         Chop Shop                Demon Bitch                Hip Hop Collage
         Henke, Mel               All that Meat              La Dolce Henke
         Charles Earland          Snake                      Dynamite Bros.!
         Amps for Christ          A Very Mode-Ular Song      Thorny Path
         Ennio Morricone          Astrazione Con Ritmo       Il Serpente

         Tortura                  Sounds of Pain and         Bondage Records
                                  Pleasure

        The Hellers!             Take 46                    Command/Now Sounds
         O'Donel Levy             Kilimanjaro Cookout

         Adams, Johnny            Neither One of Us          Room with a View of the
                                                             Blues
         Teenage Fanclub          Metal Baby                 I Love this Tune!!!!!!
         Evan Johns H-Bombs       Mad House                  Alternative Tentacles

         Thompson, Hunter S.      Huge Bats                  Fear and Loathing in Las
                                                             Vegas

         Black Sabbath            Fairies Wear
                                  Boots/Jack->>>                The Ripper
        Narration                Mondo Topless-Intro                [coll]: Russ Meyer
         Sloe Gin Joes, the       I Can't Go Home Like this  Sloe Gin Joes, the
         Jud Conlon Singers       Dobie Gillis Theme
         Francois Reuber          Playtime                   Jacque Tati
         Jimmy Castor Bunch      King Kong
         Teo Usuelli              Piacere Sequence           [coll]: Beat at Cinecita
         Gregory Corso            Bomb                       Beat
         Jack Hammer              Like                       Poetry

        Soul Providers           Switchblade                Soul Tequila

         John Carradine           Night Song for the         Jazz Canto, 1957
                                  Sleepless
         Woody Leafer             Drums in the Typewriter
         Jr. and His
         Soulettes                Pimp                       Psychodelic Sounds
         Donaldson, Lou           The Humpback               Mr. Shing-A-Ling
         Shorty Rogers            Wampuskitty                Bug In
         Brother Weasel           Rock-A-Bye                 Brother Weasel

         Scott, Raymond           The Music Box              Soothing Sounds for Baby
                                                 Vol 1
         John Keating             Telestar                   Astromusical Odyssey
         Ellie Girl               Let's Make It

         Psychedelic Seeds        Psychedelic Piano
                                  Playground

KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Billy Mure on Strand
Date: 16 Oct 1997 03:27:30 -0400 (EDT)


Ross sez : "_Hawaiian Percussion_ (Billy Mure), Strand. I had some tracks
from this on
a later budget compilation, so I was ecstatic to find the original. Mure's
"Hawaiian War Chant" with its weird little plonking persussion sounds (I
think it's on one of the RE/Search CDs) is indeed quite fabulous.
Unfortunately Strand Records must have been total cheeseballs, because this
is one of the WORST pressings ever. The surface noise is awful, the mix
doesn't make any sense until you turn the balance knob over to about 4
o'clock. . . and there is this huge, vinyl. . . ZIT. . . in one of the
bands. I mean, I've seen losta little craters before--but this is an
actual, stylus-destroying Outie. Mure is one guy who really deserves a
decent reissue someday, assuming anyone can get their hands on his original
tapes."

Yeah, you're right, Strand was a bottom-of-the-barrel label - I don't know
what Mure was doing with them.  His records are so great.  I'm always on the
lookout for more - Hawaiian Percussion and Around the World in Percussion are
the only two I have.  I'd love to see his work reissued.


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Pierre Henry
Date: 16 Oct 1997 09:45:11 +-200


I haven't heard much Pierre Henry, but his music for a door and a sigh, =
consisting entirely of door sqeaks and sighs, was one of the most =
brilliant pieces of modern electronica I've heard. I've lost my copy and =
haven't heard it for years. Time for a visit to the public library, I =
guess...

Charl


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From: Georg Zoche <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Schmaltzalarm
Date: 16 Oct 1997 07:45:55 -0400


Hi Robert,

there was a problem with my 'Schmaltzalarm' mail, sorry for that. So here
it goes again:

The Schmaltzalarm gets invoked when the Schmaltzlevel reaches critical
amplitudes. For this we have constructed a 20.000 Volt Schmaltzmeter which
measures the Schmaltzcontent in the atmosphere as well as on single
individuals, it becomes some sort of a ritual...  kind of difficult to
explain. Maybe the liner notes of our flyer help a little:

"Brimming with the soft, exotic wonder of life in the luxuriant tropics,
pulsing with romance in the great tradition, this dazzling night combines
the magic of Besame Mucho with the fantasy and suspense of Caravan.
It is a night full of rituals and desire, a tropical paradise of erotic
interventions, romantic schmaltzalarms and exotic cuisine, a lost island of
love that is the dream of every human heart.

"A truly grand night."
~ Arrabbiata Telegraph ~

"A high degree of romantic excitement."
~ Scharfness Review Syndicate ~

"A brilliantly turned adventure fantasy"
~ Exotica Evening Post ~

This Phonosynthesis is brought to you by DJ Clark Kent and Captain Nemo -"


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From: Kerry Keane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) color of music
Date: 16 Oct 1997 08:16:07 -0500 (CDT)


On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Clark Scheffy wrote:

>
> How about we ask Ken Nordine to tell us?


Why it's "flesh", of course!




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Subject: Re: (exotica) radio as proof?
Date: 16 Oct 1997 09:17:47 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-14 14:23:52 EDT, you write:

<< where's the correlation between music education and radio, which
 for the most part is a commercial advertising medium aimed at the widest
 (and therefore, necessarily the most bland, derivative, and appropriatably
 melodic) audience?
  >>
The correlation is this:  There hardly exists any music education in the
schools.  All most people hear is what the commercial advertising media
provides them.  That's their influence; that's their music education.  When
they create "music" they're just recycling those "bland, derivative" sounds.
 (What's wrong with "melodic"?)  The few that set out to obtain a true
musical education need to rise above those vulgar influences;  very
difficult.

<<Many people on this list are amazing musicians, well-trained, some even use
samplers! Many of these amazing musucians are in their 20s. I wonder
why the discussions on this list have turned to such a kids versus
curmudgeons tone?>>

"Amazing"?  In what way?  By whose definition?  ----
"Well-trained"?  By whom?  In what?  Harmony?  Theory?  Form? Counterpoint?
Fugue?  4-part chorale writing?  Orchestration?

Even we curmudgeons were kids once. Maybe it's about perspective.  The
composers of pop tunes used to learn music by studying Bach, Mozart, even
Rachmaninoff and Ravel----who do today's composers study?  Led Zeppelin! ?

One of my college students would argue that "all sound is music".  If one can
accept that notion, conversation is meaningless.  (He was a "death metal"
musician, whatever the hell that is/was!)

Regards,
Chuck




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Billy Mure on Strand
Date: 16 Oct 1997 09:57:05 -0400 (EDT)


dave in hi-fi wrote:

<< Yeah, you're right, Strand was a bottom-of-the-barrel label - I don't know
 what Mure was doing with them.  His records are so great.  I'm always on the
 lookout for more - Hawaiian Percussion and Around the World in Percussion
are
 the only two I have.  I'd love to see his work reissued. >>

The good thing is not all of his many LP's are on Strand...here are three
great ones on RCA Victor that you should keep an eye peeled for:

Super-Sonic Guitars in Hi-Fi
Fireworks
Supersonics in Flight

Cool and Strange Music Magazine has a piece on Billy Mure in issue 5

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Another List of Stuff
Date: 16 Oct 1997 18:16:33 +0100


Herein follows a list of albums that I have bought over the last
couple of months. Not ALL of the albums. Just those that might
possibly have some vague relevance to the topic of this list, whatever
that was meant to be again. In fact, not even all of those, just the
ones that come to mind now.

First off, an American release with a red cover, with the words "Music
For Sensuous Lovers" on it. Allegedly by "Z", but an inspection of the
composer credits reveals that it's by one Mort Garson. One track per
side -- Climax One and Climax Two -- this very silly use of vinyl
combines gentle flowing synthesizer background with foreground squeaks
of pleasure; and also horrific asthmatic vacuum cleaner noises of
pleasure, and mysterious
"I'm-trying-to-eat-a-rapidly-dissolving-ice-lolly" noises. I'm
certainly not going to listen to this very often, but it fills a slot
in the curioso cabinet.

Managed to pick up this great South African album -- "Under An African
Sky" by Nico Carstens and Robin Netcher. Carstens wrote "Zambesi". I
was a bit wary of this, because it contains lots of electronic
accordian, which usually sounds dreadful, but this is really great,
more like a deranged hammond than the expected insipid tootle. Lots of
up-tempo swinging cheese with great band arrangements. Specially good
is "Kwela Patat" (?potato dance?). Along the same lines, I picked up
"Africana" by Horst Wende, which is very like "A Swinging Safari" (but
might date from earlier -- ?).

Soundtrackwise, I found "What's New Pussycat", "The Greduate" (well
worth it for the Dave Grusin tunes), and "El Topo" by Alexandro
Jodorowsky -- some of the tracks on this sound strangely like they've
been composed for Jacques Tati -- I've never seen the film, but I
suspect it's a little "out there", judging from the interview and
pictures in the gatefold. Oh yes, and the magnificent duo of "Superfly
TNT" by Osibisa, and "BBC Sporting Themes", which is possibly the best
TV themes album in the world; not only does it have a selection of
tunes that are deeply embedded into the national psyche, but also
several forgotten masterpieces, like "Striker" by the Anthony King
Orchestra, the 1974 World Cup theme, and "Breezy Bounce" by Ray
Davies. Oh yes, I forgot "Visions of Eight" -- Henry Mancini, which
also has good moments. And "Children's TV Themes" by Cy Paine and his
orchestra -- which has a big band arrangement of the "Magic
Roundabout" theme (!). And a few others...

From slightly earlier periods I found "Re-Percussion" by the
Percussive Art Ensemble (dir. Richard Schory), which is pretty good,
especially the 12 tone piece "Cloud 9", which is very atmospherically
threatening. The arrangements don't all rely on banging everything as
hard as possible; on "Stereo Perspectives in Percussion" and "Stereo
Motion in Percussion" this does seem to be the general idea, but it's
done with lots of comedy value (there's something about that "Cuckoo
Cha Cha" that sticks it in my head). I think these albums have Skip
Martin directing, as do the less interesting (to me) "Scheherajazz"
(classical-jazz alternation; real stoopid) and "TV Jazz
Themes". Another oh-look-we-discovered-stereo album I found was
"Dimension in Sound" by Bob Sharples and his Music. I can't get the
puported full 3 Dimensional effect, such as the rocket from "Rocket"
going through my ceiling, so I think my stereo must be missing a few
buttons, or something. But the music seems to work very well
straightforwardly, lots of sound effects and silliness going on with
the arrangments (the classical pieces are nothing special, though).

"Swing Gently With Strauss" by The Len Hunter Collection should be a
dreadful album. It looks crap. The idea is crap. But it subverts
expectations, particularly in the grrooovy, funky, sexy, smoochy,
weirdly dancethatassoff arrangement of "The Radetsky March" (sic, but
true). Quite brutally disregarding the conventional presentation of
the obviously obsolescent "waltz", Mr. Hunter proceeds to bring
Strauss UP TO DATE IN THE MID 70s... on the obverse of this
kind-of-a-thing is "Bacharach Baroque" by the 18th Century Corporation
-- genteel acoustic guitar, flute, recorders, harpsichord
etc. versions of songs by guesswho; this one also works very
well. "The Beatles Album" by the Percy Faith Strings is not even in
the same league, but is worth it just to hear the elevator version of
"Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds"... there were a couple of other
Beatles covers albums, but ... oh, it is worth mentioning the "Baroque
Beatles Book" by Joshua Rifkin -- not at all like the Bacharach album,
it seems that some rogue musicologist has been at work -- the songs
are sometimes so ornately re-arranged that it's difficult to make out
what the hell it's meant to be (some of Lennon's surreal writings are
also set to music in this). "Hit Me Hawaiian" by the Big Ben Hawaiian
Band has Hawaiian versions of tunes such as "Happy Heart", "Aquarius",
"Midnight Cowboy", and so on, which is fairly entertaining (I do very
much like the cover, of a bowl of fruit shot through a vaselined lens,
with a handgrenade sitting in a hollowed out coconut. It's kind of
sweet). "The World Famous Premiere Accordian Band Go Hawaiian" is
vastly entertaining -- imagine a ceilidh band with steel guitar added,
and you probably get the picture (it is unclear, though, why the
medley of tunes from "The Jungle Book" appears).

"Silhouettes of Success" -- the Howard Blaikley Orchestra. Howard and
Blaikley wrote the hits for Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Titch (I
can never remember if that's the right list)... this is an album of
their instrumental;arrangements of some of those eosngs (plus others
written for other groups). Unforgivably, "The Legend of Xanadu" is not
included, but numbers such as "Hold Tight" and "Bend It" are, and
they're great -- nice, precise orchestration with a groovy just-about
distorted guitar in places; I really like this.

"Brazilian Byrd" by the Charlie Byrd Trio is a really excellent Bossa
album, with a couple of original tracks which are great, and a bossa
nova version of Limehouse Blues (!). On the oppoosite end of the Latin
Spectrum, "Heath Vs. Ros" puts together Edmundo Ros and Ted Heath --
their respective bands taking one speaker each, with Johnny
Keating arrangements. Something doesn't quite gel with this one, but
there are some startling moments. "Latin Melodies New and Old" by
Edmundo Ros has my favourite version of "One Note Samba" on it (not
the one he sings on). I also managed to get hold of about 10
incredibly mediocre latin albums which aren't worth mentioning, except
in this sentence. Oh yes, and an Astrud Gilberto album (which I can't
even remember the title of) which contains her recording of "Bim
Bom"... a quality album on the Contour label, wonders never cease...

"Spectacular Accordians" by Charles Camilleri has a magnificent cover;
a woman in a yellow bodystocking affair sitting atop a giant
accordian. The first track, "Jungle Fantasy" is outstanding -- totally
manic, furious and squeaky. "Guitars A Plenty" by The George Barnes
Guitar Choir is a nice multi-guitar album, with a really great version
of "Singing In The Rain", and "Violent Violins" by Michel Legrand (in
the same Mercury Super Stereo Series) is also excellent, although it
is a little bit same-y after a while.

I'm beginning to run out of steam, and I suspect no one wants to read
all this drivel anyway, so here's some more titles with the odd comment.

"Sleigh Ride" -- Sauter-Finegan Orchestra

"White Noise 2" -- David Vorhaus

"The Stripper" --- David Rose

"BBC Comedy Themes"

(Some truly horrific pieces on this. Hearing Ronnie Barker sing the
theme song to "Going Straight" must be one of the lowlights of this
calendar year. Thus an essential purchase; also has stuff like Fawlty
Towers, Reggie Perrin, Some Mothers Do Ave Em, Steptoe and Son, and
best of all Spike Milligan's Q... but the agonizing search for stuff
like Are You Being Served, George and Mildred, and On The Buses goes
on. Hopefully someone will now tell me they are all available on CD...)

The Genius of Jankowski / Many Moods of Jankowski

"Afroclassic" -- Hubert Laws"

(Brilliant, cool jazz flute versions of classical music).

"Impelling Dances of Our Time" -- Enoch Light

"The Many Moods of Enoch Light"

(4 album box set of Light, Mottola, and Kissin' Cousins, all Project 3
stuff, issued by the Longines Symphonette, or however you spell
it. Very disappointing.)

"Swinging The Bard" (features Ken Jones, David Lindup, Johnny Hawksworth)

"Swinging London" -- The London Philharmonic Orchestra

(Orchestral versions of "Delilah", "Rudy Tuesday", etc. Cringemaking
but great for that reason).

"Fancy Meeting You Here" -- Bing Crosby-Rosemary Clooney

(One of the best "crooner" albums I've ever run across -- and I'm not
real a fan of either of them. Eye-candy cover!)

"Melodies of Japan" -- The Cascading Strings (cond. Johnny Gregory)

"The Brazilian Bombshell" -- Carmen Miranda

(I'd never actually heard Carmen Miranda before -- bananas not just on
hat).

"Black Widow" -- Lalo Schifrin


SURELY TOO MUCH THAN ENOUGH.



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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) radio as proof?
Date: 16 Oct 1997 14:26:48 +0000


> Even we curmudgeons were kids once. Maybe it's about perspective.

Dunno...    one thing i keep learning (and trying to remind myself)
as i age is that the world grows in multiple proportions to my head
size...  and not the other way around.   and whatever that means...
you might be surprised at what some of today's popsters have studied
and/or deeply listened to.   And if your only reference is top 40
then you're doing yourself a severe disservice.

as for those 'vulgar' influences...  i had to laugh at that.   Maybe
some on this list would like to live in a vacuum and it's been stated
that some are drawn to 'exotica' through a faux nostalgia..
whatever floats your boat.   But i have to say 'amen' to bro. Cleve's
post as a lover of sounds who's mind maybe 'isn't so open that
anything could just crawl in' (Magazine quote), but can appreciate
often to enjoyment music/sounds/noises of a wide variety..
disregarding irrelevancies.  ... and if you consider music to be a
cultural expression, then radio most certainly is relevant as is the
hum of a computer or the clack of a keyboard.   That's life and that
belongs in music and in no way, necessarily at the expense of
traditional training.  as for sampling:  repetition, reruns,
post-modern referencing...  this is so much a part of daily living
that it would be false if pop did not reflect it.  Can it be
uninspired/done poorly?   Yes.   So can exotica or any other genre.
So what's the point of these arguments against contempo pop?  Does
love of 'exotica' require some negative justification?   I don't
think so.




kevin king
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music For Sensuous Lovers by "Z"
Date: 16 Oct 1997 11:32:21 -0700


"Music For Sensuous Lovers" on it. Allegedly by "Z", but an inspection of the
>composer credits reveals that it's by one Mort Garson. One track per
>side -- Climax One and Climax Two -- this very silly use of vinyl
>combines gentle flowing synthesizer background with foreground squeaks
>of pleasure; and also horrific asthmatic vacuum cleaner noises of
>pleasure, and mysterious
>"I'm-trying-to-eat-a-rapidly-dissolving-ice-lolly" noises.

What a masterpiece recording!


I have found that playing this rekkid over the air upsets many a female
person IF THEIR SIGNIFICANT OTHER (a male) IS PRESENT

BUT, If they are not present, they like it,
_______A________ _________LOT_____

Most guys like it irregardless, IF you know what I mean AND I think you do!

The reason women don't like it IF THERE MAN is present is because he is
listening to a very real woman have sex and even worse, orgasm

Yum yum

I just made a fundraiser spot with it much in the character of George C.
Scott's character in Dr. Strangelove

"Yeah baby, start without me"
"Yeah yeah, I love you too"





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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Octopus Rekkids ?
Date: 16 Oct 1997 11:50:28 -0700


Anyone have the new comp out called;

SCOCTOPUS - THE IN SOUND FROM OCTOPUS RECORDS on Scema
It's an EASY BUSY Release

I've got it on VINYL, 2 rekkids

Jack


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) colour of music
Date: 16 Oct 1997 12:23:01 -0700


>         If you'd given my posting a proper read you'd have realised I
>        didn't essentialise race at all.

Irwood is what we Jews call, a schmendrek (sp?)

Haven't heard from him since his post "accusing" people of racism have we ?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) 45's
Date: 16 Oct 1997 15:32:30 -0400 (EDT)


To follow up on Dave's find, I am infatuated with 45's. They were
manufactured to be hits, so there is usually a hook or two to experience.
Before the majors took over completely in the late 6T's early 7T's,
independent labels flourished as well and some of them have the most
wonderful logos and artwork. I have a collection of 6T's sweet-soul 45's
numbering in the 2000 area and they are neatly boxed, numbered, and their
Joel Whitburn Chart placement indicated on the record sleeve which I keep
ensconced in plastique baggies.........Jimmy/45's 4-Ever


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) "The Classics" or "Bang the Garbage Can Baby"?
Date: 16 Oct 1997 15:37:20 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-16 09:22:31 EDT, you write:

<< Even we curmudgeons were kids once. Maybe it's about perspective.  The
 composers of pop tunes used to learn music by studying Bach, Mozart, even
 Rachmaninoff and Ravel----who do today's composers study?  Led Zeppelin! ?

 One of my college students would argue that "all sound is music".  If one
can
 accept that notion, conversation is meaningless.  (He was a "death metal"
 musician, whatever the hell that is/was!)

 Regards,
 Chuck >>

OK, Here I go . . .

I tend to agree with Chuck on this one (BTY, I'm 35 and a pseudo-curmudgeon).


Some of my greatest appreciations for music come from learning basic history
and structure of true historic music.  I hate that most people lump all
historic music in the classical category.

I think that people who have an understanding of music (not necessarly
trained in music) are more open to various musical formats.  I think the next
step is is when an individual can listen to a form of music he does not like,
but at least understand (i.e. appreciate) what the artist was trying to
convey.  For instance,  I have listened to Rap and I understand what they are
trying to say (I just don't particularly like their medium).  Real question
is - Do you think they would listen to Lounge, SABPM, etc. and try to
appreciate the arrangements (or choice of instrumentation) in a wordless
song?  I'm not sure, but I doubt it.

I personally think the "all sound is music" idea is a load of crap.  I think
true music must be the result of some level of talent and composure.  Banging
on a garbage can may be expression but not music.  (I think my parents said
this about the Beetles).

Becoming old and fussy,

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From: "Cary Pierce" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) sampling, etc.
Date: 16 Oct 1997 16:31:23 UT


m.ace wrote:
Now let's complicate things. I think we mentioned the combination of "manual"
music and sample constructions last round. So I'll skip that. Here's a new
twist. What about an artist who manually creates a collection of new musical
pieces -- and then proceeds to assemble a sample construction using those
pieces as material?
_________________________

An interesting approach. I read somewhere that the latest Portishead release
was constructed in this fashion, with the music from the original sessions cut
to vinyl, then scratched and manipulated back into the final mix. I think the
technique works quite well in adding a unique texture and atmosphere to
Portishead's music. Any other examples of this technique that anyone can think
of? Thanks,

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Lounge comes to Southwest Boston!
Date: 16 Oct 1997 15:48:18 -0400 (EDT)


Starting Fri, Nov. 7, and every Friday following for the forseeable future
starting at 7p.m.-Closing, an evening of Lounge-Music will be presented by
yours truly at "Le Cafe Royal" on Centre St. in the West Roxbury section of
Boston. This is a first in a section of town NOT known for innovation in all
things cultural. We would like a turnout (of course!) and urge anyone from
the area to turn out and bring a friend or spousal equivalent. Thanks to Br.
Cleve for inspiration....Jimmy Botticelli


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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: RE: (exotica) sampling, etc.
Date: 16 Oct 1997 13:57:35 PDT


In response so m.ace and DickDiablo's post:

m.ace wrote:
Now let's complicate things. I think we mentioned the combination of "manual"
music and sample constructions last round. So I'll skip that. Here's a new
twist. What about an artist who manually creates a collection of new musical
pieces -- and then proceeds to assemble a sample construction using those
pieces as material?
_________________________

An interesting approach. I read somewhere that the latest Portishead release
was constructed in this fashion, with the music from the original sessions cut
to vinyl, then scratched and manipulated back into the final mix. I think the
technique works quite well in adding a unique texture and atmosphere to
Portishead's music. Any other examples of this technique that anyone can think
of? Thanks,

                                      [e-mail]

I reply:

Yes - Bob Ostertag's "Say No More" is an example of this to the extreme. He
began by assembling a group of musician well known for their improvisational
technique (If I were at home in front of my CDs I'd give you names - I
can remember Bob? Mintun, a British vocalist) and had them each commit about
20 minutes to an hour of pure improvisation and noodling to tape.

Bob Ostertag then took the entire tapes, laid them up on Digidesign ProTools,
and spliced, diced, and reassembled them into two compositions.

This became the first CD of "Say No More."

Bob then gave lead sheets for these compositions back to the musicians, and had
them learn them. The group then performed these compositions, with Bob
Ostertag doing further sampling and processing of the sounds in the context.
This live performance became the second CD of "Say No More." He claimed
to want to do more iterations, but I haven't been able to find them.

But anyway, beyond that, what the Dust Brothers do with Beck approaches this
technique, though they still use records for sources fairly regularly. Beck,
was in fact, going to call his last album "Robot Jazz" for that very reason -
the improvisational aspect of jazz was a component of the reassembling of
many improvised chunks into the things that became songs.

This discussion of sampling should also make the distinction between sampling
a record for a drum sound, or sampling a tupperware container for a drum
sound. One is someone else's sound that is "recontextualized", the other is
essentially musique concrete.

Clark


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From: "Michael Greenberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) brute force
Date: 16 Oct 1997 17:12:41 -0500


This is perhaps a bit off topic, but some of you are probably
familiar with the lp "Brute Force, Confections of Love."  Does anyone
know if a 1970  lp called "Brute Force" on the Embryo label (#522) is
by the same artist?  I tend to doubt it, but I remember someone
telling me there is a live recording of "Brute," so I thought I'd
check.

Please e-mail me so I'll be sure to get any responses.

thanks,

Michael


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music For Sensuous Lovers by "Z"
Date: 16 Oct 1997 21:11:50 -0400 (EDT)


<< What a masterpiece recording! >>

there is another in that "genre" called THE SOUNDS OF LOVE...A TO ZZZZZ.
 Same kinda thing with the bubbling electronic background and a woman
becoming increasingly aroused.  I often wonder if including a track from this
in a tape mix for a female listener is going to be considered offensive, but
then I go ahead and do it anyway.  :)





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Spiderman music
Date: 16 Oct 1997 18:21:01 -0700 (PDT)


Did someone wonder where to find music from Spiderman, the cartoon show?  I
missed the original posts.

Anyway, there is a CD of Toon Tunes (themes only).  No word on whether they
are original or re-creations, but it seems to have everything including
Spiderman and The New Adventures of Spiderman.  To find out more, you can
call 1-800 382-2348 and ask about Toon Tunes, or e-mail me privately to get
more info.

I do not work for these people, I just have their catalog.

Byron Caloz
[e-mail]
Portland, OR, USA
/   _
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(--)
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From: Eb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Sexy?
Date: 16 Oct 1997 18:49:27 -0700


I saw an advertisement today for a new compilation called "Schoolgirl --
Music From Sexy German Films 1968-1972." Or something to that effect. Does
anyone know just what sort of music this is??

Eb




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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dunwich Horror
Date: 16 Oct 1997 20:01:49 -0700


Can anyone tell me how this Les Baxter Soundtrack is ?

Anyone have it ?

Jack


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The "Inferior" argument
Date: 16 Oct 1997 23:06:04 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-16 09:22:31 EDT, you write:

<< There hardly exists any music education in the
 schools.  All most people hear is what the commercial advertising media
 provides them.  That's their influence; that's their music education.  When
 they create "music" they're just recycling those "bland, derivative" sounds.
  (What's wrong with "melodic"?)  The few that set out to obtain a true
 musical education need to rise above those vulgar influences;  very
 difficult. The composers of pop tunes used to learn music by studying Bach,
Mozart, even  Rachmaninoff and Ravel----who do today's composers study?  Led
Zeppelin! ?
  >>

You have touched upon one of my biggest pet peeves.  I of all people, a
supposed "punk rock music journalist," should be agreeing with Chuck, but
hey, I'm 35 and after 20 years of punk rock, its boring.  I'm sorry it is
time to move on to something more sophisticated.  All of you on the list must
agree since you are all collecting this music, that it is by far superior to
todays popular bands like Green Day or whatever.  We are all united on this
list by the very fact that we are forced to "collect" our chosen music
because in today's world - there are no musicians out there producing it
(with the exception of bands like Combustible or bands like Tipsy, who
apparently engage in sampling).  And I don't think it is just a simple matter
of the music we like being outdated.  The fact is young bands today are not
"trained musicians," if they wanted to produce it, they are incapable of
doing so.

Okay, I admit there are holes in my argument, but I put that thought out
there.  My point is that there are no true "exotica" bands anymore or
"lounge" bands anymore, because people do not come into music like they did
back then.  The vast majority of todays's kids (and I've been arguing this
with my punk rock guitarist boyfriend who incidently did take music lessons
in high school) learn how to play 3 instruments: bass guitar, electric guitar
or drums!  Is anyone out there learning how to play a fish?  A xylophone
/vibraphone? Horns?

So I say, that these so-called pop/rock musicians today, are inferior when
you look at it from this standpoint. The kind of music our list members
collect is beyond the capabilities of today's pop/rock musicians.  After all,
they usually learn how to play their instruments from their big brother or
best friend.

Well that is all I have to say.  I speak as someone who truly loves "lounge"
music and wishes there really were bands today playing the stuff.  Instead, I
have to resign myself to reviewing psuedo "exotica" bands who are often just
instrumental surf bands or psuedo "lounge" bands who often can barely play
their horns or stand up bass.  Trying to cover a live exotica/lounge scene
for my magazine has been a grim undertaking due to these circumstances.

- Michele
Flipside Fanzine


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The "Inferior" argument
Date: 16 Oct 1997 23:23:45 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-16 09:22:31 EDT, you write:

<< There hardly exists any music education in the
 schools.  All most people hear is what the commercial advertising media
 provides them.  That's their influence; that's their music education.  When
 they create "music" they're just recycling those "bland, derivative" sounds.
  (What's wrong with "melodic"?)  The few that set out to obtain a true
 musical education need to rise above those vulgar influences;  very
 difficult. The composers of pop tunes used to learn music by studying Bach,
Mozart, even  Rachmaninoff and Ravel----who do today's composers study?  Led
Zeppelin! ?
  >>

You have touched upon one of my biggest pet peeves.  I of all people, a
supposed "punk rock music journalist," should be agreeing with Chuck, but
hey, I'm 35 and after 20 years of punk rock, its boring.  I'm sorry it is
time to move on to something more sophisticated.  All of you on the list must
agree since you are all collecting this music, that it is by far superior to
todays popular bands like Green Day or whatever.  We are all united on this
list by the very fact that we are forced to "collect" our chosen music
because in today's world - there are no musicians out there producing it
(with the exception of bands like Combustible or bands like Tipsy, who
apparently engage in sampling).  And I don't think it is just a simple matter
of the music we like being outdated.  The fact is young bands today are not
"trained musicians," if they wanted to produce it, they are incapable of
doing so.

Okay, I admit there are holes in my argument, but I put that thought out
there.  My point is that there are no true "exotica" bands anymore or
"lounge" bands anymore, because people do not come into music like they did
back then.  The vast majority of todays's kids (and I've been arguing this
with my punk rock guitarist boyfriend who incidently did take music lessons
in high school) learn how to play 3 instruments: bass guitar, electric guitar
or drums!  Is anyone out there learning how to play a fish?  A xylophone
/vibraphone? Horns?

So I say, that these so-called pop/rock musicians today, are inferior when
you look at it from this standpoint. The kind of music our list members
collect is beyond the capabilities of today's pop/rock musicians.  After all,
they usually learn how to play their instruments from their big brother or
best friend.

Well that is all I have to say.  I speak as someone who truly loves "lounge"
music and wishes there really were bands today playing the stuff.  Instead, I
have to resign myself to reviewing psuedo "exotica" bands who are often just
instrumental surf bands or psuedo "lounge" bands who often can barely play
their horns or stand up bass.  Trying to cover a live exotica/lounge scene
for my magazine has been a grim undertaking due to these circumstances.

- Michele
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Fwd: The "Inferior" argument
Date: 16 Oct 1997 23:32:27 -0400 (EDT)



---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj:    Re: The "Inferior" argument

Michele-
Wonderfully put!
I, having poured myself a couple shots of good Scotch, am now drinking to
your health....
Regards,
Chuck


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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Sexy?
Date: 17 Oct 1997 02:09:42 -0400 (EDT)



it is VERY COOL music, get it....it is on white vinyl to boot.
does that make it *white* music?

it is along the lines of Vampyros Lesbos...(it may be the same people)
i cannot think of their names off hand.
it is on Crippled Dick Hot Wax

bump

> I saw an advertisement today for a new compilation called "Schoolgirl --
> Music From Sexy German Films 1968-1972." Or something to that effect. Does
> anyone know just what sort of music this is??



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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) colour of music
Date: 17 Oct 1997 12:01:34 +-200



Jack, you must be proud! Apparently Yma Sumac is also a Jew from New York.

Charl



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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: Sexy?
Date: 17 Oct 1997 12:16:54 +-200



I saw an advertisement today for a new compilation called "Schoolgirl --
Music From Sexy German Films 1968-1972." Or something to that effect. Does
anyone know just what sort of music this is??

This is easy in the funky cat by Gert Wilden and Orchestra. Lots of fuzzy guitar and psychedelic space pop. Gettit.

Charl



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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) The "Inferior" argument
Date: 17 Oct 1997 12:27:31 +-200


One of my key complaints about modern rock and dance music is that it =
does not have the perky chirpy happy skipalong feeling that the Tijuana =
Brass, Lenny Dee, Esquivel (the list is endless) had in their music. =
Today's music is often one of violence, anger, and (I'm sorry to say) =
angst. I just find an Esquivel brass burst followed by a comical steel =
slide a thousand times more therapeutic and stress busting than say a =
track on the new Prodigy album. I know this argument has two sides, but =
I opt for the MUSIC FOR EASY LIVING. What lasts and what doesn't?

Charl


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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Latin Village
Date: 17 Oct 1997 12:34:53 +-200


<< Martin Denny - Latin Village >>

Is this record any good?  what's the play list?

Robert

Angelito
On Green Dolphin Street
Corcovado
Tres Palabras
Ho-ba-la-la
Something Latin
Manha de Carnaval
Latin Village
The Girl from Ipanema
Malaguena
Sugar Cane
Flying down to Rio

This album is definately not a good example of Exotica, but it does =
display a versatile side of Martin Denny. I rate it among the best of =
the bossa nove genre. Even The Girl from Ipanema is one of the best =
renditions I've heard. I just don't want to hear it too often!

Charl




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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Another List of Stuff
Date: 17 Oct 1997 11:55:00 +-200



      Managed to pick up this great South African album -- "Under An =
African
Sky" by Nico Carstens and Robin Netcher. Carstens wrote "Zambesi". I
was a bit wary of this, because it contains lots of electronic
accordian, which usually sounds dreadful, but this is really great.

Nico Carstens is great, Peter. Some of his light music is really =
brilliant. Even some of the "boere musiek" is entertaining. He also =
plays almost all the instruments!
=20
"Hit Me Hawaiian" by the Big Ben Hawaiian
       Band ...Is this worth getting? I love hawaiian. I've got quite a =
lot but if this is a worthy addition I know where to get it...

"Brazilian Byrd" by the Charlie Byrd Trio
I have "more Brazilian Byrd" and it is one of my favourite bossa albums.

Charl


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From: Sevo Stille <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The "Inferior" argument
Date: 17 Oct 1997 12:55:47 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:

> You have touched upon one of my biggest pet peeves.  I of all people,
> a
> supposed "punk rock music journalist," should be agreeing with Chuck,
> but
> hey, I'm 35 and after 20 years of punk rock, its boring.  I'm sorry it
> is
> time to move on to something more sophisticated.  All of you on the
> list must
> agree since you are all collecting this music, that it is by far
> superior to
> todays popular bands like Green Day or whatever.  We are all united on
> this
> list by the very fact that we are forced to "collect" our chosen music
>
> because in today's world - there are no musicians out there producing
> it
> (with the exception of bands like Combustible or bands like Tipsy, who
>
> apparently engage in sampling).  And I don't think it is just a simple
> matter
> of the music we like being outdated.  The fact is young bands today
> are not
> "trained musicians," if they wanted to produce it, they are incapable
> of
> doing so.

Of course, new generations taking to music tend to be proud of the
"genial dilettante" thing when they start out - and older generations
have despised them for that since the early days of jazz. But if we
forget about the pose and check the music, things really look different.
Most former punk musicians have moved on - either technically (even
people still playing punk often do so with a degree of virtuosity better
than most 70's art rock heroes) or stylistically (many people have moved
on to far more complex musical forms). In a way, the invasion of
electronics into contemporary pop has made additional demands on
musicians technique - many punk or trash-metal guitar players can play
faster and in better timing than, say, Eric Clapton (they have to, as
their drum machine won't forgive any errors).

> Okay, I admit there are holes in my argument, but I put that thought
> out
> there.  My point is that there are no true "exotica" bands anymore or
> "lounge" bands anymore, because people do not come into music like
> they did
> back then.  The vast majority of todays's kids (and I've been arguing
> this
> with my punk rock guitarist boyfriend who incidently did take music
> lessons
> in high school) learn how to play 3 instruments: bass guitar, electric
> guitar
> or drums!  Is anyone out there learning how to play a fish?  A
> xylophone
> /vibraphone? Horns?

Of course, the prevalence of guitars makes for some stilistic poverty in
current rock music - but then, there is a wide variety of contemporary
music beyond pop and rock, often done by stunningly good musicians. At
least hereabouts there still are a lot of people who learn other
instruments at home or in school - off-hand, I know at least half a
dozen people currently engaged in local drum&bass, electronic or triphop
bands who have a formal training as jazz or classical musicians.


> So I say, that these so-called pop/rock musicians today, are inferior
> when
> you look at it from this standpoint. The kind of music our list
> members
> collect is beyond the capabilities of today's pop/rock musicians.
> After all,
> they usually learn how to play their instruments from their big
> brother or
> best friend.

Was it really different in the past? It may well be that more people
learn guitar, but I doubt that fewer people have piano or violin lessons
or join a high-school brass band today - at least in Germany, more
people than ever have high-school or college education, with the
corresponding musical education to boot. As for arranging and composing
for large ensembles - this always was something you'd have to study
music for, and at least hereabouts, more people than ever are in fact
music students. That not many of them are engaged in composing and
arranging thirty year old music should be no surprise, but that is
hardly a problem of capabilities, but of their focus of interest.

> Well that is all I have to say.  I speak as someone who truly loves
> "lounge"
> music and wishes there really were bands today playing the stuff.
> Instead, I
> have to resign myself to reviewing psuedo "exotica" bands who are
> often just
> instrumental surf bands or psuedo "lounge" bands who often can barely
> play
> their horns or stand up bass.

New lounge certainly has a dilettante fringe - but at least hereabouts,
quite a few new lounge musicians are fully professional and qualified.
Of the three local lounge revival bands I know, one is a tongue-in-cheek
comedy thing where nobody can play any instrument at all (but they still
are fun), one basically is a fairly versatile surf/punk band, with a
stunningly brilliant (and formally trained) keyboarder, and the third is
a highly professional jazz band, with every member employed in top-rank
jazz or classical bands and orchestras.

Sevo

--
Sevo Stille                                        [e-mail]
Radio X




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From: Schlock! <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) NFL Films music?
Date: 17 Oct 1997 09:50:35 -0700


Anyone ever notice how cool the music from the NFL Films from the 1960s and
early 1970s are? (NFL Films were/are highlights from the previous week's
games). Last nite I was watching the Green Bay/Cowboys "ice bowl" game (from
the mid 1960s?) and the music had lots of twangy guitar and bongos, and
dramatic Hugo Winterhalter (sp?) sounding music swell up when a great pass
was thrown or caught (in slo-mo). JC


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music--is it doomed?
Date: 17 Oct 1997 12:12:40 -0400


I'm sorry, I just can't accept these apocalyptic theories that human beings
are becoming stupider and lazier and that everything is going to hell.

I think the simplest assumption is that we humans basically stay the same
over time, but the best creative people are attracted to differerent things
in different generations--one generation says, "hey, I think I'll paint
some deer on this cave wall!" while another says,  "hey, I think I'll learn
HTML!"

Every generation produces a ton of forgettable dreck and a few things that
last.

Gifted young musical minds (who in another age would have pored over the
classics and composition theory, and gone on to successful Brill Building
careers) haven't just died off. But realistically, what chance is there of
a career in classical music or on Broadway today? Instead their passion and
self-discipline is going into other areas which are more exciting to
them--perhaps into mastering technological tools which didn't even exist 15
years ago. Is this somehow inferior to mastering the wood-and-brass
technology of a traditional instrument? You can't stop music from changing.
. .

I can't believe that the overall level of craft or creativity has gone
down--it is just being directed into areas which are too new for us to have
agreed-upon critical standards (e.g. the recent "sampling" flameage here).
And don't forget that when the pendulum does swing way off in a new
direction, inevitably there is some kind of backlash, say to "rediscover"
to melody and harmony. . .

Yours in HiFi,

 --Ross

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) NFL Films music?
Date: 17 Oct 1997 09:58:38 -0700


On RCA from the early 60's BERNIE GREEN made a rekkid that is just that

Staright ahead pop instrumentals of Football Team music from the NFL

Sold 1 awhile ago, killer cover too!
Jack

At 09:50 AM 10/17/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Anyone ever notice how cool the music from the NFL Films from the 1960s and
>early 1970s are? (NFL Films were/are highlights from the previous week's
>games). Last nite I was watching the Green Bay/Cowboys "ice bowl" game (from
>the mid 1960s?) and the music had lots of twangy guitar and bongos, and
>dramatic Hugo Winterhalter (sp?) sounding music swell up when a great pass
>was thrown or caught (in slo-mo). JC



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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  NFL Films
Date: 17 Oct 1997 13:07:18 -0400


 Well, an interesting study could be done comparing the music
 from sports films with porn soundtracks.  Do you think we could get a
 grant for this?

 Will


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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dolemite
Date: 17 Oct 1997 14:30:29 -0400 (EDT)



King of the Nasty Rap, Rudy Ray Moore, aka Dolemite

i just picked up all his lps reissued on cassette for $2.50 a piece at the
record store i work at here in Baltimore. one in particular and my
personal favorite is the Zodiac Album.
Rudy does his thing over some exotica music which sounds like Les Baxter
or Martin Denny. i heard "temptation" in there. does anyone know who it
is and what lp he is using?
sounds like a Jeopardy question....What is......

bump



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From: Michael Bergren <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica Digest V2 #276
Date: 17 Oct 1997 17:42:05 -0500


Does anyone out there know if Elmer Bernstein's  Theme from "The
Carpetbaggers" is available on CD (compilation or otherwise.  I have the
origonal vinyl soundtrack, which isn't in very good shape.

michael


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From: Ariel Tagar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 1st lounge sessoin tonight!
Date: 18 Oct 1997 11:07:58 +0300 (IDT)


Well, i did it, I finally got suterday's to dj at the "Cafeinn" cafe
downtown Tel Aviv. The fisrt "lounge with Ariel" session night is today
and its gonna be a knocker. I won't be  sending you the weekly play list,
but you can find it at the Easy page starting as from next week.
wish mw luck,
Ariel
The EASY PAGE, Easy listening and lounge culture.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/3076
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From: Bailey <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) <no subject>
Date: 18 Oct 1997 09:11:27 +0000


hello, i'm new to the list, so please forgive me if my comments or
questions have perviously been discussed.

i recently found at the thrift shop a Perez Prado record (great
mambos, bell records) and a Pedro and his amigos record (havana at
midnight, bravo records) in which a good number of the songs consist
of the same recordings, just with slightly different titles
(Siempre-Siempre te he guerido, etc). I'm just curious what the deal
is. the P.Prado is dated 1961 and there is no apparent date on the
pedro.

also, i have seen this with same thing with a carlos montoya album on
spin o rama. i dont know if the songs were the same but the covers
were identical. what's the case? is someone getting pinched?

any info would be helpful, thanks.
bailey


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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Spaced Out Dick Lieb interview
Date: 18 Oct 1997 19:35:41 +0000


It's taken a while to get it together but *finally* my interview with
Dick Lieb is available for reading on the Spaced Out website (URL
below).

In case you're wondering "Dick who?", Dick arranged several of
Enoch Light's Project 3 LPs including those two gems "Spaced Out" and
"Permissive Polyphonics" (on which he also played Moog).

Hope you enjoy reading it - feel free to feed back any comments
you may have.


Robbie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 18 Oct 1997 13:23:51 -0700 (PDT)


At 09:11 AM 10/18/97 +0000, Bailey wrote EXOTICA:
>i recently found at the thrift shop a Perez Prado record (great
>mambos, bell records) and a Pedro and his amigos record (havana at
>midnight, bravo records) in which a good number of the songs consist
>of the same recordings, just with slightly different titles
>(Siempre-Siempre te he guerido, etc). I'm just curious what the deal
>is.
>also, i have seen this with same thing with a carlos montoya album on
>spin o rama.

I, too, am curious!  I buy these records and wonder about their
authenticity.  Still, the Perez Prado music does sound like him.  I've got a
feeling these were either foriegn releases that these little companies
imported and re-released in the US for peanuts....or they were recordings
made in live performances with no knowledge of the performer.  Maybe Perez
did authorize them and had only a loose deal with RCA.  Or, perhaps, its
someone who just SOUNDS like him (but I doubt, no one can grunt-shout like
Perez Prado).

I don't know how RCA responded to these recordings.  I do believe Perez
Prado was still recording for RCA back then (note, there is no reference to
RCA on these budget labels...usually there is something like "courtesy of
RCA" if permission was granted).  If I were with RCA, I'd get a little angry
about some little company taking some of the Perez Prado market away.

So there are at least two of us wondering the same thing.

Byron Caloz
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) sizzling strings
Date: 18 Oct 1997 16:46:48 -0400 (EDT)


Kirsten asked:

<< I just saw the Roy Lanham track on your comp tape.  What do
 you think of the Sizzling Strings CD? >>

hi kirsten...

thanks for writing and i'm sorry for the late response.

heres the scoop on the Roy Lanham CD:

As far as I know, it is the only work by him on CD.  This is a "two-fer",
combining two complete LP's, "Sizzling Strings" and "The Fabulous Roy
Lanham".  It is put out by Bear Family Records, who have done their usual
outstanding job.  A nice little booklet with fine liners and black and white
photos.  I believe these were originally on the Dolton (Ventures) label.

Jack Diamond turned me onto Roy Lanham with one of his typically enthusiastic
written descriptions and I picked it up shortly thereafter.  Killer
guitartist with some brilliant solo work.  Not at all like Jimmy and Speedy
in sound, but great it it's own special way.  You can't go wrong if you dig
this kinda thing.

While on the subject of country guitar, check out Buddy Emmons as well.
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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 18 Oct 1997 19:57:56 -0400


At 1:23 PM -0700 10/18/97, [e-mail] wrote:

>I, too, am curious!  I buy these records and wonder about their
>authenticity.  Still, the Perez Prado music does sound like him.

These are his early, pre-RCA recordings; master tapes were sold to various
budget labels, who would repackage these recordings after an artist had
become famous on another (usually major) label. These records were then
sold in supermarkets and drug stores for 99=A2.

This was a common practice in the 50's and 60's. There are other artists to
whom this also happened, usually in the fields of r&b, blues, and latin
music. Ray Charles is a perfect example : he cut 42 sides for the Swingtime
label from '49-'52. When his ABC recordings took off in the early '60's,
these tracks were packaged and repackaged into dozens of budget albums :
some added strings, some were reprocessed into "stereo" (which was usually
just a layer of reverb added), some had a track or two by a completely
different artist. Most did not sound as good as the original recordings,
and were just made to cash-in for a quick buck from a dim-witted public.

Prado's early recordings are enthusiastic and exciting, but the recording
quality was pretty lo-fi, which is not helped by the bad pressings of these
budget recordings. Many of these tracks have shown up on CD, but I don't
believe anyone has tracked down the original tapes. (Unlike Brother Ray's
recordings, which finally were issued properly in Europe about 5 years ago)


The Prado recordings can also suffer from a curious problem - there are
also numerous recordings by Prado's brother that show up on these records.
Because Prado dropped his first name and went only by his full Latin name
(Perez being his father's surname, and Prado his mother's), it was not
really false advertising to say a recording was by Perez Prado : ethically,
it's wrong, of course, because you're not stating which Perez Prado it is
(one was famous, one was not), but ethics is something which has never
really existed in record industry.

br cleve




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lung Music
Date: 18 Oct 1997 21:23:24 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-18 07:52:32 EDT, you write:

<< Jack, you must be proud! Apparently Yma Sumac is also a Jew from New York.

 Charl >>

Yea, and with a set of lungs like that she sold alota <rekkids) (sic).

Whoa!



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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lung Music
Date: 18 Oct 1997 19:24:59 -0700


Dudes!

I'm listening to the all instro surf weekly 3 hour show on KFJC-FM,
HTTP://www.KFJC.ORG, hence my greeting;)

Yma Sumac is not a New York Jew or a Jew at all
She is a Peruvian Princess.

Go to the Official Yma Sumac Web Site and ask Don Pierson, who if I'm not
mistaken knows her personally and he will tell you!

http://www.accesscom.com/~pc/sumac.htm

Legend, schmegend

Jack Diamond

At 09:23 PM 10/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 97-10-18 07:52:32 EDT, you write:
>
><< Jack, you must be proud! Apparently Yma Sumac is also a Jew from New York.
>
> Charl >>
>
>Yea, and with a set of lungs like that she sold alota <rekkids) (sic).
>
>Whoa!



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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Roy Lanham
Date: 18 Oct 1997 19:52:08 -0700


>heres the scoop on the Roy Lanham CD:
>
>As far as I know, it is the only work by him on CD.  This is a "two-fer",
>combining two complete LP's, "Sizzling Strings" and "The Fabulous Roy
>Lanham".
A nice little booklet with fine liners and black and white
>photos.  I believe these were originally on the Dolton (Ventures) label.

>While on the subject of country guitar, check out Buddy Emmons as well.
> Recently reissued is his "Steel Guitar Jazz" LP.

Hey kids, Jack here;)

Those 2 rekkids are damn rare and the liner note booklet is TRE-MEN-DOUS
Those guys at Bear Family are the motherload of cool info and pics too!
I LOVE BEAR FAMILY REISSUES!

The 2 rekkids were not originally on Dolton.
Sims is 1 label.  Not sure what the other is if it's different

Can't remember the label(s) but most definitely not on Dolton.

There's a Roy Lanham Web Site created by his daughter and it kills.
Both of the rekkids are more towards the Western Swing kind of sound and
ARE GREAT if you like that sort of Country Jazz


Here's the URL for the grand daddy of all motherload search engines
listings for Mr. Lanham.
http://www.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&what=web&kl=XX&q=Roy+Lan
ham

Here is the URL for Roy's Web Site;
http://personal.riverusers.com/~debed/rl_index.htm

The Roy Lanham LP to find though, IS THE ONE ON DOLTON called The Most
Exciting Guitar of Roy Lanham, I'm gonna scan it and put it on my Rekkid
Cover Art and Beyond page soon-shoot, so many covers and soooooooo little
time.
I just can't tell you!

I do have a few that 1 just doesn't see everyday though if you wanna look
http://www.jackdiamond.com/rekkid.htm

Just got this new scanner and I have to screw with it some more to get
batter scans so don't give me a had time by comparing them to my KFJC home
page scans, OK ???

http://www.kfjc.org/diamond/covers.html

Those were done on a scanner by a friend who works at ADOBE in Mt View, CA ?
Know what I mean, say no more, say no more:)

The Most Exciting Guitar LP is straight ahead rippin' and perfectly
melodic, flowing jazz guitar with stand up string bass and Earl Palmer on
Drums in the likes of which only come from the best, like Barney Kessel.

On the cover Roy is playing THE MOST beautiful RED Fender Jazzmaster geetar
they is.  Swear to god.
He's wearing a black tuxedo and has one of them pencil mustaches just at
the very edge of his top lip.

He is cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

Jack


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Weekend Scores
Date: 19 Oct 1997 13:51:44 -0400 (EDT)


Well, I came upon some pretty cool albums. I garage sale every Saturday
morning. This first one I thought said, "Playtime In Hawaii". Turns out it
says, "Playtime In Havana". I should have looked closely at the cover and I
would have known it was NOT Hawaiian. It's by George Hernandez & Johnny
Martinez and the cover is wonderful. Also got:
Ray Anthony - The Dream Girl (Did Ray Anthony every record "Like Love"?)
Charles Aznavour = His Love Songs In English
Tony Mottola - Love Songs, Mexico/S.A.
Billy Vaughn - Music For The Golden Hours
This weird album called "Music Programmed with a Purpose, Customusic". It's a
two-disk sampler. Absolutely no artist's credits and from the list of songs,
looks like it's from the 50s.
Sue Raney, Orchestra by Billy May - Songs For a Raney Day. (I've heard this
name, anyone have background on her?)
Astrud Gilberto - Beach Samba
Frankie Carle - Plays the Great Piano Hits
Ray Conniff - Hollywood In Rhythm
Ray Conniff - Happiness Is
Russ Morgan & Eddie Wilser - Kitten On The Keys
Robert Maxwell - The Very Best Of
Peter Sarstedt - Where Do You Go My Lovely

Last weekend I found an Elvis Presley 78 at a garage sale. RCA Label, "I Want
You, I Need You, I Love You". Yeah!!!!
Gloria



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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Weekend Scores
Date: 19 Oct 1997 14:27:00 -0400 (EDT)


I forgot to list the records I found that didn't have covers:
Myer Davis & Orch. - Dancing with the Smart Set
The Three Suns - Having A Ball With
Mimi Allen - Strings of My Heart
Leo Diamond - Harmonica Magic Of

Gloria


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 19 Oct 1997 15:27:05 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-18 20:30:29 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:

<< These are his early, pre-RCA recordings; master tapes were sold to var=
ious
 budget labels, who would repackage these recordings after an artist had
 become famous on another (usually major) label. These records were then
 sold in supermarkets and drug stores for 99=A2.
=20
 This was a common practice in the 50's and 60's. There are other artists=
 to
 whom this also happened, usually in the fields of r&b, blues, and latin
 music. >>

This is very intersting br. cleve, but I have a question.  He told us tha=
t
the other record was not released as Perez Prado, but as Pedro and his
Amigos.  If so, what benefit are they getting because the public doesn't =
know
that this is a Perez Prado recording (or do they?)  It seems to me that i=
f
they wanted to cash in on those master tapes after Perez got famous, woul=
dn't
they want the world to know, "hey, this is a Perez Prado album".  Or did
legalities keep them from releasing those tapes  as Perez Prado?  If so, =
then
how could they get the public to buy the albums?  Am I making any sense?

- Michele
Flipside Fanzine


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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend Finds
Date: 19 Oct 1997 16:00:20 -0400



Yesterday, I picked up about 80 CDs ordered by my
insurance company to partially replace those stolen while
I was in London in June-July     . . . but that wasn't enough,
and one should always have a slow cool-down after such
exertion, so I've been out buying more music today.

The soundtrack to "The Gentle Rain" (1966) by Luiz Bonfa, is very
light and lush and not that interesting.

"Neil's Diamonds," by Hugo Montenegro, has its real moments,
and "Sweet Caroline" will go on my next compilation tape.  As the
liner notes point out, "they don`t call Hugo 'The Quadfather' for nothing."

Also . . .

Richard Maltby and His Orchestra, Music from Mr. Lucky
a compilation of early 1970s movie music by Francis Lai,
and another Quebec-Latino album, "Los Islenos Trio,"
as yet unheard, with such cuts as "Tuki-Tuki" and "Brigitte
Bardot."

And a couple of Canadian curios.  One is "Expose 67," by
The Brothers-in-Law a group of topical satirists, very popular
in the mid 1960s, who were policemen by day, and whom
my parents considered quite ribald and too risque for me.

And an album, "Love Story," by an Indo-Canadian named "Radeem,"
with the taglines "Ferdie's Piano, Bangladesh Raga, Chopin's Funk."
I'll report back on this if it's interesting.

This week's favourite piece of music is the Jean-Jacques Perry-Air
collaboration,
"Cosmic Bird," which turns up on the Source Lab 3 compilation from France.

Will

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Montefiori Cocktail CD review
Date: 19 Oct 1997 15:20:52 -0700


Just reviewed this for KFJC.  It's a goo 'un

Montefiori Cocktail - Don't know that label info though
Jack

Very-very-VERY GROOVY. Like 60s=20
Latin Funk Jazz..  Chicks with  white Go Go=20
Boots and matching WIDE belts dancing in=20
cages.  Arms flailing every which way.
Get the picture ?
Some groovy strings/synth strings and GREAT=20
melodic wailing  sexophone,  sharp driving=20
percussive type of drumming and bongos=20
too!
Super cool electric piano and organ sounds.=20
Weird electronic buzzing,funny weird Indis-
tinguishable wordless vocals that are=20
PERFECT!!!
I would venture to say, that if you hear any=20
of this (except the last track) - That if your=20
body did not go all out dance like,
that you had better check your pulse, =91cause=20
I would bet $ to donuts that you be dead.
He he he he he 5 Stars!!!
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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Capitol production music series volume 3
Date: 19 Oct 1997 18:34:39 -0400


I just got this promo mini-33 1/3 from Capitol plugging their third volume
of production music to radio stations. Some of it is very very cool and/or
exotic, so enjoy these evocative track listings from the best-looking
volumes (from the accompanying brochure)! ^_^

Disc no. 4: Spy/International Suspense

Come Spy With Me
Spy My Foot
Secret Mission
A La Pink Panther
Operation Day Off (!!!)
Spy Congress (!!!!)

Disc no. 5: Sophistication/Upbeat

Sophistication
Cool Cleo
Hip Chum
Last Train
Excitment, Anyone?
After
Who Cares?
Another Chance

Disc no. 9: Oriental/Exotic

Sunday in Shanghai
Mysterious East
Oriental Garden
Exotic Village
Asian Sunset
Asian Sunrise
Going Native
Exotication
Jungle Dreams

Disc no. 11: Mechanical/Industrial

Factory Assembly Line
Shopping Day
Steady Movement
Factory Activity


Yeah, they're only titles--but they're neat titles. Thanks for the space,
Jessica ^_^



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From: "Jeff Chenault" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dunwich Horror
Date: 20 Oct 1997 09:45:25 -0400


The Dunwich Horror Soundtrack is totally awesome material.  It was first
issued on American International in 1970 as "Music Of The Devil God Cult."
Strange Sounds from Dunwich which also deatured a young Dean Stockwell on
the cover.  It was later reissued with a different cover on Varese
Sarabande.  With tracks like......Sensual Hallucination, Cult Party, Black
Mass and Devil Cult it is hard to go wrong with this one.  The music is very
remenisent of his work with Roger Corman's Poe films, very moody, abstract
and SCARY!!!







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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Montefiori Cocktail CD review
Date: 20 Oct 1997 11:05:29 -0400 (EDT)


At 03:20 PM 10/19/97 -0700, JD wrote:
>Just reviewed this for KFJC.  It's a goo 'un
>Montefiori Cocktail: Raccolta No.1 - Don't know that label info though
>Jack

It is on IRMA America (42847822).
Check them at:
<http://irma.com>  or e-mail at [e-mail]

Track 3 is a swingin' Bolero, and the unnamed (by Jack) last cut is Theme
From Star Trek.

--Lou




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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Montefiori Cocktail CD review
Date: 20 Oct 1997 09:14:07 -0700


Personally Lou, I think the Star Trek cut is a throwaway
It's sooooooooo terribly out of place and not consistent with the rest of
the wonderfulness

-J

>>Just reviewed this for KFJC.  It's a goo 'un
>>Montefiori Cocktail: Raccolta No.1 - Don't know that label info though
>>Jack
>
>It is on IRMA America (42847822).
>Check them at:
><http://irma.com>  or e-mail at [e-mail]
>
>Track 3 is a swingin' Bolero, and the unnamed (by Jack) last cut is Theme
>>From Star Trek.
>
>--Lou



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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) budget vacuum record cleaner
Date: 20 Oct 1997 13:33:15 +0200


from a 1995 KAB catalog:

"budget record cleaner EV-1 is the result of a joint venture between KAB
and Nitty-Gritty (...cut...) rotate the record [manually] across the velvet
lined Vac-Sweep. using a home cannister vacuum [apparently to be attache to
a connection hose].

EV-1 LP/45/78: $99.95
Dust cover $9.95

phone: (USA) 908-754-1479 (no fax number mentioned, no e-mail address, but
as said, this catalog is 2 years old)

        Johan
        [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (R.Preston Peek)
Subject: Re: (exotica) budget vacuum record cleaner
Date: 20 Oct 1997 13:28:19 -0400


>from a 1995 KAB catalog:
>
>"budget record cleaner EV-1 is the result of a joint venture between KAB
>and Nitty-Gritty (...cut...) rotate the record [manually] across the velvet
>lined Vac-Sweep. using a home cannister vacuum [apparently to be attache to
>a connection hose].
>
>EV-1 LP/45/78: $99.95
>Dust cover $9.95

I've known a couple of people who bought these, and the unanimous concensus
was to save a little more and get a full-fledged Nitty Gritty.  Personally,
I would save even a little more and get the low-end VPI.

preston

Exotica/Et Cetera -- "Celebrating the Vinyl LP as Art, Amusement and Artifact."
and
www.vinyllives.com -- "It's the closest thing you can get to
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From: [e-mail] (Ingemar Breithel)
Subject: (exotica) Capitol Silver Platters
Date: 20 Oct 1997 22:07:20 +0100


At 18.34 971019, Jessica Cameron wrote:
>I just got this promo mini-33 1/3 from Capitol plugging their third volume
>of production music to radio stations...

Another series of Capitol radio station promos was the Silver Platter
Service, albums with excerpts from new releases and interviews with the
artists. I only have one, which contains inteviews with Webley Edwards,
Ray Anthony and Kay Starr and music from newly released LPs by George
Shearing, Louis Prima, Jack Marshall and others, including Les Baxter's
"Rush Hour Romance" used as opening and closing theme, all hosted by
Jack Wagner.

There must have been quite a few in this series, does anybody have any?
And isn't it conceivable that one could contain an interview with ... Les
Baxter?! Gasp! Tell me that such a beast exists!

--Ingemar




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From: Ariel Tagar <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Montefiori Cocktail CD review
Date: 20 Oct 1997 22:20:39 +0200 (IST)


At 15:20 19/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
Montefiori Cocktail - Don't know that label info though
Jack

thats funny, the club where i do my Lounge gig is
at a street calld "Montefiori"...
Ariel
The EASY PAGE, Easy listening and lounge culture.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/3076
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Capitol Silver Platters
Date: 20 Oct 1997 18:51:45 -0700 (PDT)


At 10:07 PM 10/20/97 +0100, Ingemar wrote:.
>Another series of Capitol radio station promos was the Silver Platter
>Service, albums with excerpts from new releases and interviews with the
>artists. .
>There must have been quite a few in this series, does anybody have any?
>And isn't it conceivable that one could contain an interview with ... Les
>Baxter?! Gasp! Tell me that such a beast exists!

Yup.  I have it, side 31!  It is no great shakes, but it gives you an idea
who Les Baxter was.  He sure seems likes a real nice guy, modest.
Unfortunately, they did a PHONE interview with him, not a live (better
quality) interview.  It almost seemed like a last second thing for ol' Jack
Wagner.

If anyone has others (with Baxter, whomever), I'd like to know.  I do have
some others (one of which I am sending on to someone) and would be glad to
list them for everyone...but I would like to know what else is out there.

So far I have never seen the same SPS album twice...so there aren't THAT
MANY around (and those that were around were likely thrown out by the
stations after they were used, after all Capitol gave only six months
release on the programming).

Byron
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Silver Platter Service
Date: 20 Oct 1997 22:46:11 -0700 (PDT)


Okay, here is the list I just put together from the info at hand.  Any other
contributors?

Silver Platter Service
Capitol Records

Thanks to Ingemar Breithel for help with this list!

Each record  had two sides (no, duh) and was supposed to be for a particular
month.  The numbering system would indicate, however, that more than one
record came out a month. Radio stations were given rights to play a program
no longer than six months after the first broadcast (I guess that means that
if a station didn't play any of them, that TODAY they could still play it!).
Each side lasted about 23:30 to 24 minutes.

SIDE   MONTH  YR   Interview with...

5      ?????  ??   Webley Edwards, Ray Anthony, Kay Starr ?
6      ?????  ??   Webley Edwards, Ray Anthony, Kay Starr ?
7      ?????  ??   Nelson Riddle or Peggy Lee
8      ?????  ??   Peggy Lee or Nelson Riddle
31     ?????  ??   Les Baxter (phoner)/Four Freshmen (in studio)
32     ?????  ??   Les Brown (phoner)/Ray Anthony (phoner)
167    Sept.  65   Norrie Paramor
168    Sept.  65   <just phone actualities from listeners!>
213    Sept.  66   The Lettermen
214    Sept.  66   Lou Rawls
225    Dec.   66   Lucho Gatica
226    Dec.   66   Al Martino



Byron
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Scoctopus
Date: 20 Oct 1997 23:47:22 -0700


Has anyone ever heard this wonderful 2 record set that just came out ?

It's subtitled "The In Sound From Octopus Records"

Jack


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From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) budget vacuum record cleaner
Date: 21 Oct 1997 18:45:26 +1000 (EST)


On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Johan Dada Vis wrote:

>
> "budget record cleaner EV-1 is the result of a joint venture between KAB
> and Nitty-Gritty (...cut...) rotate the record [manually] across the velvet
> lined Vac-Sweep. using a home cannister vacuum [apparently to be attache to

I've made my own from an old turntable platter and some plastic pipe. it
attaches to a wet/dry vax and works great. Total cost less tha n $20.00

I'm after a good recipe for a cleaning solution though?


                      _---_      Philip Jackson      ()_()
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) budget record cleaner solutions
Date: 21 Oct 1997 09:41:55 -0400 (EDT)


At 06:45 PM 10/21/97 +1000, Philip Jackson wrote:
>I'm after a good recipe for a cleaning solution though?
>                      _---_      Philip Jackson      ()_()

Here's a few home brew recipes picked up from a recent post in
rec.music.collecting.vinyl:

   distilled water            alcohol                 detergent
1)      1 part           1 part isopropyl              none
2)      1 part           1 part isopropyl      a drop of Triton X-100
3)      1 quart         1 pint denatured        10 drops Photoflo
4)      3 parts               1 part               a few drops
5)      3 parts           1 part rubbing            a few drops
6)      4 parts           1 part ethanol                some
     Hope this helps someone.  Oh, some full articles about this are on
my lame noncommercial www site at:
http://top.monad.net/~enjoythemusic/tweakspage2.htm


I can't vouch for the efficacy/safety of these mixtures, but there you are!

--Lou





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From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>
Subject:  (exotica) Hello Everybody!!
Date: 21 Oct 1997 11:40:44 -0500


You've got a new set of eyeballs readin' the exotica mail.  I got into
collecting lounge/exotica about  two years ago after borrowing a bunch
of my friends LP's that he recommended I try.  I was impressed at the
condition of many of his records since I had just assumed that anything
sitting around in the dusty, musty  bins of the Goodwill store couldn't
possibly be playable......

Anyway, now I get heart palpitations whenever stumbling across a row
of old LP's at the local second-hand shop or yard sale.  Can't say exactly
what I'm targeting, definitely Arthur Lyman and the like, the "Percussion"
genre, Hawaiian albums with knock-out covers (I'll pass on the music
thanks), "strip" albumns, etc, etc, etc........

I don't dig new groups copying the old lounge/exotica sound.  It's been
done already - bask in the legacy.......

- Nate



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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Montefiori Cocktail /IRMAmerica
Date: 21 Oct 1997 11:39:33 -0400 (EDT)


At 11:05 AM 10/20/97 -0400, I wrote:
>At 03:20 PM 10/19/97 -0700, JD wrote:
>>Just reviewed this for KFJC.  It's a goo 'un
>>Montefiori Cocktail: Raccolta No.1 - Don't know that label info though
>>Jack
>
>It is on IRMA America (42847822).
>Check them at:
><http://irma.com>  or e-mail at [e-mail]
>--Lou


Well, anyone who may have tried clicking on the above URL would have been
instantly disappointed - it don't work!

A note to [e-mail] brought this reply:

Hi Lou,
I'm glad you like the Montefiori Cocktail CD, regarding our web page, the
esact adress is:
http://www.irma.it, but right now is under construction.
If you are interested in our catalogue , let me know.
Thanks
Fabrizio Carrer


There you go!

Caio baby,
Lou




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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) webring
Date: 21 Oct 1997 15:25:25 +0200


I think Robbies idea for a webring is great, as long as enough of us join
such a ring; i checked out the webring site, but couldn't find any existing
"exotica" ring, only the "Swingers" Webring:
<http://members.aol.com/MattHelm2/swing.htm> which deals with lounge &
tiki; "exotica" is not one of its keywords; was this the ring you referred
to, Robbie? if not, what was it? if yes, should we join this one, or create
a new "exotica" one, or just expand this "Swingers" ring thing (which
currently has zero sites) to also accomodate "exotica"?

        Johan
        [e-mail]

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From: Rcbrooksod <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) budget record cleaner solutions
Date: 21 Oct 1997 15:04:41 EDT



<<    distilled water            alcohol                 detergent
 1)      1 part           1 part isopropyl              none
 2)      1 part           1 part isopropyl      a drop of Triton X-100
 3)      1 quart         1 pint denatured        10 drops Photoflo
 4)      3 parts               1 part               a few drops
 5)      3 parts           1 part rubbing            a few drops
 6)      4 parts           1 part ethanol                some
      Hope this helps someone.  >>

At least Comet is not listed as one of the ingredients!

Robert


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From: Marcus Kozica <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Buddy
Date: 21 Oct 1997 16:52:00 -0400


Hello,

Just saw a tv ad for Saturn cars. It was in b/w and they showed
the process of the assembly. Now, I think they played music by
Buddy Merril, I'm not sure but it did sound like him.

Does anybody know for sure?

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) It's Official: Samplers *ARE* Arteestes
Date: 21 Oct 1997 17:05:32 -0400 (EDT)


   PARIS, Oct 21 (AFP) - French disc-jockeys who mix and sample
other people's music to create their own sounds are on a
money-spinner after a ruling that they must be paid for their
creations.
   Under the ruling, by the powerful SACEM music industry body, DJs
who modify and put together other people's records will henceforth
receive a 12th of the rights for the resulting creation.
   Mixing and sampling are common in such musical genres as dance,
rap, techno, ambient, hard-core, groove, drum'n'bass and trance. But
until now the DJ has simply been the person who combined the
noises.
   Now they will be considered artists in their own right and paid
as such.
   The decision was announced at a music industry salon, "Mix
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) It's Official: Samplers *ARE* Arteestes
Date: 21 Oct 1997 14:49:24 -0700


At 05:05 PM 10/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>   PARIS, Oct 21 (AFP) - French disc-jockeys who mix and sample
>other people's music to create their own sounds are on a
>money-spinner after a ruling that they must be paid for their
>creations.

he he he he he

That's right &*&*&*(*(()^&(&^)('s


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) It's Official: Samplers *ARE* Arteestes
Date: 21 Oct 1997 14:55:56 -0700


At 05:05 PM 10/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>   PARIS, Oct 21 (AFP) - French disc-jockeys who mix and sample
>other people's music to create their own sounds are on a
>money-spinner after a ruling that they must be paid for their
>creations.

Wait a second here.  I may have read this incorrectly

You mean the DJ's get paid for ripping off/stealing someone else's music ?


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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) It's Official
Date: 21 Oct 1997 15:21:25 PDT


What about French comedians who rip off Jerry Lewis' schtick?

This is the same country that brought forth Pierre Schaeffer, so why
not there if anywhere?

Clark


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 21 Oct 1997 18:18:36 -0400


At 3:27 PM -0400 10/19/97, [e-mail] wrote:

>This is very intersting br. cleve, but I have a question.  He told us that
>the other record was not released as Perez Prado, but as Pedro and his
>Amigos.  If so, what benefit are they getting because the public doesn't know
>that this is a Perez Prado recording (or do they?)

I doubt very much that this is a Prado recording. I'm sure it's just part
of that *other* famed aspect of exploitation records - the sound alikes.
This was a very popular thing, giving birth to the ad campaign "original
hits BY THE ORIGINAL ARTISTS!!" to emphasize that it wasn't a fake. I even
fell for it at age 9, buying one of the numerous 'fake Beatle' records that
popped up in supermarkets in the winter of '64 (giving me invaluable early
experience in being conned). This practice continued into the early 70's;
the Alshire "Woodstock" records, with sound alikes playing songs by bands
that *didn't even play* at Woodstock!

These recordings died out on vinyl around this time, but flourished in the
mid-70's on 8-track tapes, which were being marketed to a, ahem, more
unsophisticated type of consumer. The practice pretty much died out due to
the fact that about 3 conglomerates own all the record labels, and indies
in the style of Alshire no longer exist.

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From: Kerry Keane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 21 Oct 1997 17:34:23 -0500 (CDT)


On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Br. Cleve wrote:

> I doubt very much that this is a Prado recording. I'm sure it's just part
> of that *other* famed aspect of exploitation records - the sound alikes.
> This was a very popular thing, giving birth to the ad campaign "original
> hits BY THE ORIGINAL ARTISTS!!" to emphasize that it wasn't a fake. I even
> fell for it at age 9, buying one of the numerous 'fake Beatle' records that
> popped up in supermarkets in the winter of '64 (giving me invaluable early
> experience in being conned). This practice continued into the early 70's;
> the Alshire "Woodstock" records, with sound alikes playing songs by bands
> that *didn't even play* at Woodstock!
>
> These recordings died out on vinyl around this time, but flourished in the
> mid-70's on 8-track tapes, which were being marketed to a, ahem, more
> unsophisticated type of consumer. The practice pretty much died out due to
> the fact that about 3 conglomerates own all the record labels, and indies
> in the style of Alshire no longer exist.

And what a pity that is!  I go out of my way to buy some of
that "sounds like" crap; some of it is so poorly played and
sung that it borders on the avant garde.

I especially like "Disko Hits" by the "Disko Band" on Pickwick.

Hell, half the time with 8-tracks you can't tell
if it's the real artist or not, so why not save
yourself some bucks by buying the soundalike?




******************************************************************************
Kerry L. Keane
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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 21 Oct 1997 18:48:04 -0400


I love this discussion of soundalike records.  I'm interested, as well,
in the budget labels which re-record hits, using "one or more members
of the original group," and the ways in which every country or area seems
to have its local labels that pick these things up in secondary
markets.   This seems to be huge, now, in the UK, with Hallmark and other
labels,
and there's a company here in Quebec that brings out the familiar Troggs
and Herman's Hermits re-recordings.

My favourite shlock series is the Deja-Vu series out of  Italy, which brought
out those black-covered albums by Bob Hope, Dean Martin, Dorothy Lamour
and others in the 1980s, and now has them on CD reissues . . . and they keep
repackaging them, sometimes trying to make them look like authoritative,
scholarly-annotated box sets, when they're really just repackagings of
grey-market
or public domain stuff, in many cases lifted from original film soundtracks.

Will

Will Straw

Associate Professor
Graduate Program in Communications
McGill University
3465 rue Peel,
Montreal, Quebec
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Phone: [phone]; Fax: [phone]
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Institutions
http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 21 Oct 1997 18:56:58 -0400


At 5:34 PM -0500 10/21/97, Kerry Keane wrote:

>And what a pity that is!  I go out of my way to buy some of
>that "sounds like" crap; some of it is so poorly played and
>sung that it borders on the avant garde.

I couldn't agree with you more. The best ones always get the chord changes
just a little bit wrong........so wrong they're right!

br cleve





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From: Bailey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 21 Oct 1997 15:14:57 +0000


> I doubt very much that this is a Prado recording. I'm sure it's just part
> of that *other* famed aspect of exploitation records - the sound alikes.

nope. 2 turntables. 2 systems played at the same time. exact recording. and i do believe
the the Prado on the Bell label is an "accepted" original album.

my original hope with the pedro and his amigos record was that i found some pedro vargas
that wasnt on 78 (victor,rca). not the case. does this even exsist on 33?


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) NFL Films Music
Date: 21 Oct 1997 20:23:36 -0400


Sorry for the late response on this one.

Old (pre-80's) Indy 500 highlight films feature similarly boffo library music.
It seems likely that they were produced by the same company that did the NFL
films.

Did I see it here or somewhere else that someone was releasing a batch of
library music for civilian purchase?

m.ace
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Big Mess Orchestra address
Date: 21 Oct 1997 23:32:24 -0400


An email address for Big Mess Orchestra has been relayed to me. Actually this
is for Big Mess Theater, but it would drift through to the appropriate parties
anyway.

[e-mail]

m.ace
[e-mail]


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 22 Oct 1997 01:57:14 -0400


At 3:14 PM +0000 10/21/97, Bailey wrote:

>nope. 2 turntables. 2 systems played at the same time. exact recording.

just curious here - exact recording of what? What are you A-B'ing it with?

>and i do believe the the Prado on the Bell label is an "accepted" original
>album.

Hmmm - Bell didn't exist until the late 60's/early 70's, when Prado was
still with RCA. So I doubt it......but maybe someone else knows something I
don't - - Jack? Millionaire? Ashley?....

>my original hope with the pedro and his amigos record was that i found
>some pedro vargas
>that wasnt on 78 (victor,rca). not the case. does this even exsist on 33?

RCA issued 1 lp of Vargas material in the U.S., in 1958. It features
Esquivel's orchestra on a few cuts.

br cleve




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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Go Here
Date: 21 Oct 1997 22:59:07 -0700


http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena.mit.edu/user/p/a/paseifer/www/home.html


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack
Date: 21 Oct 1997 23:26:33 -0700


<bold>    KFJC play list 3/24/97 for Jack Diamond


 ARTIST                        TRACK                    ALBUM

__________________________________________________________________________________

 Planets                       Chunky

 Rolley Polley                 Blue Rhumba                 Capitol/Bobby
Black

 Bernie Green Orch.            Out of this World           Futura/Rca

 Richard Hayman                Dansero                     GELLM/Command

 Sexadelic Dance Party         Droge C X 9                 Vampyros Lesbos

 Anita Kerr Singers            Bye Bye(Peter Gunn)         RCA/65

 Billy May Orch                Window Washer               Johnny COOL/62

 Nordine                       The Junkman                 DOT/SON of/58

 Piero Umiliani                It's Nice to Be a Woman     Sweden H & H

 Esquivel                      Malaguena Selarosa          Genius of

 Muzzy Marcellino              I'm on My Way               Liberty

 Russ Garcia Orch. w/

 Ray Brown, Don Fagerquist, Bob Cooper



 Shakespeare, John

 Orchestra                     Mucho Mexico SEVEN-0        [coll]: Easy
Project

 Jimmie Haskel Orch.           Weightless Blues            Countdown

 Laurie Johnson                The Shake                   Easy Project

 Mancini                       Hawaii 5-0                  Dick Nash-Trb Solo


 Roy Clark                     Caravan(Yet Another
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                               Version)

 Bald Bill Hagan               Koochie Galore              Strip Tease Party

 Marco Polo Adventurers        Yokahama Ferryboat          Rca



 Sascha Burland/

 Mason Adams                   The Arranger



 Pierre Henry                  Rock Electronique           Mass for TODAY(63)

 John Dankworth                The Party                   The Idol

 Sexadelic Dance Party         Dedicated to Love           Vampyros Lesbos

 Ferrante & Teicher            L O V E                     Blast Off

 Los Indios Tabajaras          Maria Elena                 63/RCA

 Esquivel                      I Love Paris                Strings Aflame

 W/ Carl Fonatana-             Bass Accordian



 Sumac, Yma                    Remember                    101 Strings/Summac
Yma

 John Keating                  Dreamer(Studio 2, E M I )   A R P

 Quincy Jones                  Psychosis                    The Slender Thread

 Mundell Lowe               The Thin Man Theme          59/RCA

 Jimmy Cleveland,              Ed Shaughnessy,Donald Byrd  Eddie Costa



 Chun King Radio Commercial best of 1966



 Martin Denny                  Quiet Village(Moog)         69/LIBERTY

 Angelo Badalamenti            The Pink Room(Twin Peaks)   Fire Walk W/ Me

 Leonard Rosenman              Brent's Interrogation       Beneath/Apes

 Nino Rota                     Juliette's Theme            Juliette of the
Spiris

 Marty Manning Orch            Night on Bald Mountain

 Christopher Komeda            Christmas                   Rosemary's Baby

 House of Rising Sun

 Michel Magne                  Brazil                    Tropical Fantasies



 Jody Carver/Johnny

 Cucci                         Brazil                    Steel and Lead Electric

                                                Instrumentals



 Peter Green                   Underway                    70

 Pete Rugolo Oech.            Diamond On The Move


KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022

89.7FM  http://www.KFJC.org

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From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>
Subject:  Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums -Reply
Date: 22 Oct 1997 09:01:25 -0500


Forgot to mention the album "Dance Party" that says it features the "Perez
Prado Orchestra" or something like that.  Of course, once you put the
platter on, there's no way that's Perez and the boys......The cover's got a
young couple dancing arm-in-arm in "evening" attire.

- Nate



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) NFL Films Music
Date: 22 Oct 1997 09:00:48 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-21 20:27:33 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Did I see it here or somewhere else that someone was releasing a batch of
 library music for civilian purchase? >>
Yep, the Music For TV Dinners and Music For TV Dinners - The '60s(due out in
2 weeks) are 100% library music (for sound samples go to:

 http://www.caroline.com/scamp/moodsong

...and if they sell well there will be a third volume which will feature
actual music from This Week In The NFL.

Ashley


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From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>
Subject:  Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums -Reply
Date: 22 Oct 1997 09:13:40 -0500


While we're on the subject of "repackaging" I swear, one of the most
"repackaged" genres must by hawaiian music.  I must have 3 or 4 albums
with identical tracks.  The only reason I pick 'em up is for the incredible
cover photos of 50's gals decked out in grass skirts, etc., etc.

This makes total sense since there is a limited "canon" of traditional
Hawaii tunes....anybody else second this or am I full of sh*t???

(By the way, for a new twist on the old Hawaii drudgery, seek out the
"Phase 4" recording.....I forget the band but they've done some great
noodling on the old standards.  The covers got a cute "Polynesian" gal
(complete with Marilyn Monroe mole) with a tribal mask and is mustard
yellow color.......

- Nate



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From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>
Subject:  Re: (exotica) Hello Everybody!! -Reply
Date: 22 Oct 1997 09:31:45 -0500


Thanx to "Tiki Bob" for the welcome aboard message.  He suggests trying
to stir up some trouble, me thinks everyone will soon realize I'm pretty
good at that!!!

By the way, I'm a 8:30 to 5 workin' joe....here at Johns Hopkins in
Baltimore, Maryland...just so you'd know.....

So, Bob, you're a big Martin Denny fan eh?  Well.......Denny's okay, but
he's totally blown away by Arthur Lyman and Les Baxter.  Of course, we
all know we can "thank" (I'm personally getting sick o' the tune) Baxter for
"Quiet Village" and some would argue that he's not really in the same
"camp" as Denny and Lyman due to his lush orchestrations.  Fair enough.
Also, Lyman did indeed record some CRAP, but he's definitely good when
he's good!  Wheras Denny can slap a smile on yer face with some great
compositions, Lyman kicks into overdrive with driving rhythms that make
you smile AND laugh out loud at his sheer enthusiasm.  Denny kinda
sounds like he's in "neutral" in comparison (of course, he does kick butt
occasionally but still.....)

Hey, anybody know how much Lyman is available on CD?  I know his
mediocre "Hawaii" is available, and "Taboo" - what else?

Finally, record cleaning: hell, I use an old damp washcloth and run it along
the grooves, and let it air dry........

- Nate



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From: [e-mail] (Subliminal Sounds)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hello Everybody!! -Reply
Date: 22 Oct 1997 16:08:01 +0200 (MET DST)


workin' joe wrote:
>Denny's okay, but
>he's totally blown away by Arthur Lyman and Les Baxter.  ...

Whats your point? We=B4ve been through this zillions of times already. Oh=
 yeah=20
your a newcomer. Welcome! Baxter is GOD, Denny is GOD, Lyman is GOD, so=
 what?
We all have different taste.=20

As for record cleaning; try a VPI and hear the differance compared to the=20
old damp washcloth...

Stefan/Subliminal Sounds

=20



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From: david kasdorf <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist for Jack
Date: 21 Oct 1997 03:32:09 -0400


I wasn't aware that Yma Sumac collaborated with 101 Strings, but there it
was on JD's play list. - a song titled "Remember" I believe.  Please tell
me more about this.  101 Strings' joint ventures with the "Bigs" never
disappoint.

David Kasdorf




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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 22 Oct 1997 16:04:30 +0100


> From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>

> (By the way, for a new twist on the old Hawaii drudgery, seek out the
> "Phase 4" recording.....I forget the band but they've done some great
> noodling on the old standards.  The covers got a cute "Polynesian" gal
> (complete with Marilyn Monroe mole) with a tribal mask and is mustard
> yellow color.......

"Hawaiian Swing" by Werner Muller and his Orchestra (Decca PFS 4022)

Some really great tracks on this.



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From: "Joseph O. Holmes" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) DART Audio Clean-up Software
Date: 22 Oct 1997 09:28:01 -0400


Exoticats,

I know that a lot of you use Macintosh computers, and a lot of you work
with vinyl for various nefarious purposes, so when when I saw the
following note posted to another mailing list, I put two and two together
and thought I'd forward it to this list:



This action item is from:

Bernd Schelling, <[e-mail]>

DART Pro is a program that removes noise, clicks and other disturbances
from audio material. It is really a neat kind of software for people
interested in manipulating/rejuvenating audio. There are some
Mac-solutions available, but as far as I know, none of them is working
without extra hardware (mainly audio cards by Digidesign). Recently I got
mail from <http://macrequests.com> that there are developers interested
in doing a port.

Now, if you would like to purchase that shareware, please let David
Bisset of macrequests <mailto: <[e-mail]> know - he will contact
those developers (please enter 'Audio rejuvenation tools' in the subject
field).



There are only two essential tools:
WD-40 to make things go,
and duct tape to make them stop.


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) NFL Films Music
Date: 22 Oct 1997 08:20:11 -0700


This is AB-SO-BLEEDIN'-LUTE-LY BRILLIANT STUFF!
GET IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jack

[e-mail] writes:
>
><< Did I see it here or somewhere else that someone was releasing a batch of
> library music for civilian purchase? >>
>Yep, the Music For TV Dinners and Music For TV Dinners - The '60s(due out in
>2 weeks) are 100% library music (for sound samples go to:
>
> http://www.caroline.com/scamp/moodsong
>
>...and if they sell well there will be a third volume which will feature
>actual music from This Week In The NFL.
>
>Ashley


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Repackaging
Date: 22 Oct 1997 08:26:38 -0700


THE LABEL most notorious for this was CROWN

They took already released albums from their own label and completely
repackaged them/re titled them with totally bogus names of "artists" and
resold them of course not giving the artist DIME ONE!

Sound familiar ?

And if they didn't have enough vinyl, they took black plastic ashtrays and
melted them down to make rekkids.

AAAAAIIIIIEEEEIIIIEEEEIIIIEEEEE!!!!!!

Talk about bad sound fidelity-you have NO IDEA!!!

Then on the other hand,(the left one) 1 of the best ever Latin/Afro Cuban
bongo beatin' beatnik jazz rekkids of all time was originally released on
Crown and that is;

Buddy Collette's Latin All Stars-Jazz Heat Bongo Beat

GET IT NOW!!!

Jack


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hello Everybody!! -Reply
Date: 22 Oct 1997 08:35:32 -0700


Lyman is GOD, so what?
>We all have different taste.
>
>As for record cleaning; try a VPI and hear the difference compared to the
>old damp washcloth...

Lyman IS NOT GOD @:^O

I swear by my Nitty Gritty too


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 22 Oct 1997 11:46:07 -0400


At 1:57 AM -0400 10/22/97, Br. Cleve wrote:

> the late 60's/early 70's, when Prado was
>still with RCA.

duh - - gotta correct myself here.....Prado left RCA in '65; he moved over
to United Artists.

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From: Java Man <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Zippy Wednesday 10/22
Date: 22 Oct 1997 12:02:28 +0000


I don't know if you'll care, but found this Zippy the Pinhead strip
rather appealing.
http://www.sfgate.com/sf/zippy/
Doing my part to decrease the signal to noise ratio...

Ray


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Who's got THIS 1 ???
Date: 22 Oct 1997 10:44:29 -0700


The Official Album of Disneyland/Walt Disney World

Including about an 8 minute masterpiece by Jean Jacques Perrey of the
Electrical Street Parade (Baroque Hoedown) and MEDLEY of Disney of Disney
Favorites!!!

Plus the Enchanted Tiki Room, which is actually kind of a let down (for me)
as it is actually "Calypso-like"

The ride is insanely incredible though!  Don't think it's still there
I've got a link somewhere for Discontinued Disneyland rides and attractions
I'll have to get to y'all

And then there's YO HO OH-OH, A PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEEEEEEEEE!

The Haunted Mansion is pretty cool too

Read it and weep!

Jack


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From: [e-mail] (Mark F Ramsay)
Subject: (exotica) New Orleans
Date: 22 Oct 1997 17:48:50 +0000


Hello folks...

I've been lurking for far, far too long now, probably in bewilderment at
the vastness of it all. Anyway, got into this whole "Exotica" thang
(whatever) mainly through more EZ stuff but there's only so many strings a
man can take without needing a little more pzazz! in life.

Anyway, I guess the whole point of this is I'm going to New Orleans rather
soon for about a week so where can I shop? Vinyl is preferable but I've
heard it's a vanishing breed "over there". I'm particularly after any weird
electronica/cocktail-type singers and anything by Lalo Schifrin (more!
more! more!) Any places I can hang out in where I can look groovy in a
horrible out-of-date shirt?

I realise this is all a bit vauge, but, hell, why try and limit myself?

Cheers,

Mark.


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's got THIS 1 ???
Date: 22 Oct 1997 14:02:37 -0400


> From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Who's got THIS 1 ???
>
> The Official Album of Disneyland/Walt Disney World
> I've got a link somewhere for Discontinued Disneyland rides and attractions
> I'll have to get to y'all

Is THIS your link? (say it like a magician revealing a card)

http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html

m.ace
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Harry Partch
Date: 22 Oct 1997 11:30:45 -0700


How about this 1 ?

I've got an original Harry Partch LP here ONLY RELEASED from Columbia
University in 1958 from his works from 1950, 52, 53, 57 and 58.

Near mint condition

Titles;  Castor and Pollux/The Letter
Windsong/Cloud-Chamber Music
The Bewitched, Scene 10 & Epilogue
By Harry Partch, Gate 5 Ensemble-Chorus & Vocal Soloists
Spoken word are the "vocalists"

Mr. Partch does spoken word as well

Comes with full booklet explaining the instruments (12 of them) Harry
Partch invented and has many photos of them.

Partch also has Program Notes in Booklet that are extensive

Also has extensive Liner Note Info on back cover

This is the real deal and is extra-ordinary is putting it mildly

Totally in line with and in the league of early Moondog

Totally insane, brilliant and unique like no other period



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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Harry Partch
Date: 22 Oct 1997 16:44:11 -0400 (EDT)


At 11:30 AM 10/22/97 -0700, you wrote:
>How about this 1 ?
>
>I've got an original Harry Partch LP here ONLY RELEASED from Columbia
>University in 1958 from his works from 1950, 52, 53, 57 and 58.
>
>Near mint condition
>
>Titles;  Castor and Pollux/The Letter
>Windsong/Cloud-Chamber Music
>The Bewitched, Scene 10 & Epilogue
>By Harry Partch, Gate 5 Ensemble-Chorus & Vocal Soloists
>Spoken word are the "vocalists"
>

Interesting, Jack.
I've got CRI releases (both LP and CD) of this exact same Gate 5 material.
I'm wondering how the CRI and CU LPs differ.
Can you give some more label info - what's the CU release number, what's the
cover look like, etc.

And of course all microtonal/Partch-heads should visit:
http://205.216.138.19/~websites/jszanto/welcome.html

Waiting for the petals to fall,
Lou




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's got THIS 1 ???
Date: 22 Oct 1997 17:54:47 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-22 13:51:38 EDT, you write:

<< The Official Album of Disneyland/Walt Disney World

 Including about an 8 minute masterpiece by Jean Jacques Perrey of the
 Electrical Street Parade (Baroque Hoedown) and MEDLEY of Disney of Disney
 Favorites!!!

 Plus the Enchanted Tiki Room, which is actually kind of a let down (for me)
 as it is actually "Calypso-like"

 The ride is insanely incredible though!  Don't think it's still there
 I've got a link somewhere for Discontinued Disneyland rides and attractions
 I'll have to get to y'all

 And then there's YO HO OH-OH, A PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEEEEEEEEE!

 The Haunted Mansion is pretty cool too

 Read it and weep!

 Jack
  >>

Yea, I admit it, I got it.  And I got the CD too (from our visit to Walt
Disney World last December.  The CD actually has some tunes from the EPCOT
Center shows and countries.  The Country Bear Jamborie is funny.  The dialog
from The Dreamfinder and Figment is a blast also.  I also like the song from
Splash Mountain - A Laughing Place.

As kid oriented as these tunes are they are really orchestrated well with
thoughtful lyrics.

As for the Enchanted Tiki Room.  I love it when the French Parrot (Pierre) is
 complaining to the German parrot and says "You stay Offen my bach and I'll
stay Offen yours".

More on this after I go home an listen to it tonight.

Robert



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Harry Partch
Date: 22 Oct 1997 18:19:53 -0400


I have a CRI release of "The Bewitched" -- full-length, two LP set. It notes
that a condensed version was initially released on Partch's Gate 5 label. The
"Scene 10" that Jack mentioned has a terrific title: "The Cognoscenti Are
Plunged Into A Demonic Descent While At Cocktails". My introduction to Partch
came via a PBS tv documentary in the mid-70's -- it really tore the roof off of
my young skull. All those way-out percussion instruments! It would be great to
see that again. I got this album several years later through the New Music
Distribution Service -- a mail order offshoot of Carla Bley & Michael Mantler's
Jazz Composers Orchestra Association. Anyone else remember that?

Thanks for the link, Lou.

m.ace
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From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) It's Official: Samplers *ARE* Arteestes
Date: 22 Oct 1997 19:35:09 -0400 (EDT)


> >
> >   PARIS, Oct 21 (AFP) - French disc-jockeys who mix and sample
> >other people's music to create their own sounds are on a
> >money-spinner after a ruling that they must be paid for their
> >creations.
>
> Wait a second here.  I may have read this incorrectly
>
> You mean the DJ's get paid for ripping off/stealing someone else's music ?


    NO. they get paid for remixing, scratching, and blending a wide
variety of sounds. in other words for creating a new piece of music.
i do not happen to agree with it but at least deejays are now safe from
being sued for even *playing* someone elses music. thank buddha someone is
taking more positive view on this whole sampling/collage musicform.

bump




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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's got THIS 1 ???
Date: 22 Oct 1997 16:46:48 -0800


>
> And then there's YO HO OH-OH, A PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEEEEEEEEE!
>

I once put in some serious effort to track down a copy of the
Pirates of the Caribbean record album, given that it's my absolute
favorite amusement park ride of _all time_ and will never, ever
be surpassed... unfortunately I was a bit disappointed when I
eventually found a copy.  It does have the Yo Ho song in several
places, but the rest of the record is pretty cheaply put together...
not nearly as good as the Haunted Mansion story record.  It's
narrated by Thurl Ravenscroft (voice of Tony the Tiger) --who is
not as good at pirates as he is at tigers.  The flip side of
the record features Mr. Ravenscroft singing some quite boring
sea shanties and so forth.

Oh well... at least it has a big photo section inside!

nostalgially,

-Brian


Oh, speaking of sea shanties, I have another record called
'Vulgar Sea Shanties' sung by Oscar Brand (I think...); can't
remember the label offhand... the singer's style is very plain
and folkish but the songs are a riot... authentic ditties mainly
from the 18th & 19th centuries with titles like 'Friggin in the
Riggin' and 'Backside Rules the Navy'... doh!!  The record is
from the late 50s.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Martin Wheatley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
Date: 23 Oct 1997 00:56:19 +0100



>And what a pity that is!  I go out of my way to buy some of
>that "sounds like" crap; some of it is so poorly played and
>sung that it borders on the avant garde.
Another aspect of these is that since they were done by session people
sometimes those session people went on to be famous later.  An example
would be the UK Hallmark covers done by a then unknown Elton John

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From: Bailey <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) <no subject>
Date: 22 Oct 1997 17:33:39 +0000


if you havent checked out http://catalog.com/arts/prez_bio.htm yet, it
has some good prado info. also has a list of his recordings.

also http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/index.htm for short bios and
recordings about others...(cugat,sumac,tjader,lyman,les paul etc.)

perhaps this is old news.

bailey


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Discomboobalator
Date: 22 Oct 1997 23:31:54 -0700


Is here and cool

http://www.tomkidding.com/?oddities/discombobulator


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's got THIS 1 ???
Date: 23 Oct 1997 05:21:31 -0600



>> And then there's YO HO OH-OH, A PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEEEEEEEEE!

I got the Enchanted Tiki Room illustrated book LP about 8 months ago. I
think their version of "Hawaiian War Chant" is one of the most bizarre
versions I've ever heard. The tikis singing is really scary. I've played it
out a few times but I think people are a bit scared when it comes booming
out over a PA. I look forward to going to Disneyland this winter when I move
to LA for 5 fun-filled months! (Monday is when I leave) I hope I can find
this CD that Jack mentioned as it sounds GROOOOVY!

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Who's got THIS/TikiRoom
Date: 23 Oct 1997 17:45:56 -0600


The Enchanted Tiki Room is still there, but i recently heard they are
re-vamping the attraction to include Iago (from Alladin) and another bird
from The Lion King.  better see it now before they fuck it all up.  Next
thing ya know they'll have Pocahontas in the show.

also, for those collecting Disney/exotica, there was a full album for the
Enchanted Tiki Room attraction featuring alot of the dialog (maybe all) and
all the music (incl. hawaiian War Chant) plus a colorful booklet.  The
b-side featured The Jungle Cruise ride narrarated by Thurl Ravenscroft and
"Adventureland Suite" by Camarata.  very cool.





visit...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
          King Kini's  C L U B  V E L V E T
             http://www.tamboo.com
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Who's got THIS/Disney
Date: 23 Oct 1997 19:00:47 -0400 (EDT)


Here's an item, picked up from a newsgroup, for those who find Disney
endlessly Exotic:

<snip>
A new book, released in September of 1997 has now filled that void.  If
you collect or are interested in Disney vinyl, you must pick up the book
"The Golden Age of Walt Disney Records 1933-1988" by R. Michael Murray.
The ISBN is 0-930625-70-6.

The book is only $19.95, loaded with color photos of select album and jacket
covers, and looks pretty darn complete. As a reference, the book is a must.
It also claims to be a price guide but that aspect is a bit laughable.


From the Happiest Place on Earth (Brooklyn),
Lou




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From: "Phil Clark" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soundalikes/la musica Italiana
Date: 22 Oct 1997 16:57:20 +0100


Will Straw wrote

>From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Virtually uncredited albums
>I love this discussion of soundalike records.  I'm interested, as well,
>in the budget labels which re-record hits, using "one or more members
>of the original group,"

Me too!

We've talked about these before but what the hey.

I think the heyday of "soundalikes" in the UK at least was the 70s - Music
For Pleasure (an EMI cheapo subsidiary) in the late 60s/early 70s were
really big then. Also I remember those racks and racks of anonymous "Top of
the Pops" albums which contained contemporary covers of top pop toons
definitely NOT by the original artists. You know, the ones where they used
to make up the words if they didn't have them written down, price them at 99
pence and stick a gaudily colored photo of a dolly bird on the front to
attract the casual punter.

>My favourite shlock series is the Deja-Vu series out of  Italy, which
brought
>out those black-covered albums by Bob Hope, Dean Martin, Dorothy Lamour
>and others in the 1980s, and now has them on CD reissues . . . and they
>keep
>repackaging them, sometimes trying to make them look like authoritative,
>scholarly-annotated box sets, when they're really just repackagings of
>grey-market
>or public domain stuff, in many cases lifted from original film
soundtracks.

Yep I know the ones - they sell here at petrol (gas) stations etc

I believe Italy has strange loopholes in copyright laws, to the extent that
AFAIK live recordings are considered public domain. Could explain why when
you go in a record store in Italy, you quite often see racks of bootlegs,
y'know, the usual Beatles, Dylan and Zep stuff, at the same prices as the
regular releases, and stamped with the official SIAE stamp.

Not that I'd condone buying'em of course.

A piu' tardi

Phil
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Afro Lounge: Mandingo
Date: 23 Oct 1997 15:01:07 +0200


"Carl Russo" <[e-mail]> wrote (awhile back, i'm still
beg-hind with reading the digests ;-)

>Mandingo's THE PRIMAL RHYTHM OF
>LIFE (1973) has just been reissued on CD by EMI (works for quad set-ups,
>too!)
> It's pseudo-Afro-lounge at its finest

    woow, this is one damn great record! it's wild, energetic and loud!
    i wouldn't call it lounge though, it's more like sort-off early 70's
    hard rock with exotic percussion and primitive synthesisers;
    several tracks are by one "Page"; this couldn't be Jimmy, could it??
    a friend who listened to it (and who was absolutely baffled by it)
    told me Jimmy Page was into exotic and electronic things)
    I wish there were more lp's like this! there must be at least one more
    Mandingo LP...
    if you didn't get it yet: BUY this cd, as you won't regret it, IMHO.
        Johan
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Monstrous Movie Music
Date: 22 Oct 1997 20:02:09 +0200


forwarded From: [e-mail]

"We're presently preparing our next two releases featuring
more world premiere recordings of music from classic 1950's science
fiction films."




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Pirate's Life or Victims of Bad Upbringing?
Date: 23 Oct 1997 22:08:40 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-22 19:42:23 EDT, you write:

<<  And then there's YO HO OH-OH, A PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEEEEEEEEE! >>

And don't the lyrics say something like, "we rape and pillage and plunger . .
. "

Not to PC for Disney.  Would not past muster with the Barney youth of today
but we baby boomers love it!

Robert


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) More Disney from a big kid.
Date: 23 Oct 1997 22:09:57 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-22 14:12:07 EDT, you write:

<< Is THIS your link? (say it like a magician revealing a card)

 http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html (Yesterland - The Yesterday of
Disneyland)

 m.ace
 [e-mail]
  >>

I always liked The General Electric
Carousel of Progress

". . . Now is the time, now is the best time, now is the best time of your
life  . . . forget all your cares - live every minute - life's a suprise -
watch how you win it."

Want more?

Since 1975, the show has had a new home in the Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney
World. In the move to Florida, the show lost its Progress City act and its
original theme song. In 1985, General Electric dropped its sponsorship. A
1994 renovation restored the original theme song.

With too much time on my hands,

Robert



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Walt Disney Album Ramblings
Date: 23 Oct 1997 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT)


Subj:    Re: (exotica) Who's got THIS 1 ???

In a message dated 97-10-22 13:51:38 EDT, you write:

<< The Official Album of Disneyland/Walt Disney World

 Including about an 8 minute masterpiece by Jean Jacques Perrey of the
 Electrical Street Parade (Baroque Hoedown) and MEDLEY of Disney of Disney
 Favorites!!!

 Plus the Enchanted Tiki Room, which is actually kind of a let down (for me)
 as it is actually "Calypso-like"

 The ride is insanely incredible though!  Don't think it's still there
 I've got a link somewhere for Discontinued Disneyland rides and attractions
 I'll have to get to y'all

 And then there's YO HO OH-OH, A PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEEEEEEEEE!

 The Haunted Mansion is pretty cool too

 Read it and weep!

 Jack
  >>

Yea, I admit it, I got it.  And I got the CD too (from our visit to Walt
Disney World last December.  The CD actually has some tunes from the EPCOT
Center shows and countries.  The Country Bear Jamborie is funny.  The dialog
from The Dreamfinder and Figment is a blast also.  I also like the song from
Splash Mountain - A Laughing Place.

As kid oriented as these tunes are they are really orchestrated well with
thoughtful lyrics.

As for the Enchanted Tiki Room.  I love it when the French Parrot (Pierre) is
 complaining to the German parrot and says "You stay Offen my bach and I'll
stay Offen yours".

More on this after I go home an listen to it tonight.

Robert



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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [m.ace: Re: (exotica) Harry Partch]
Date: 23 Oct 1997 12:49:54 +0100


> From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
>
> I have a CRI release of "The Bewitched" -- full-length, two LP set. It notes
> that a condensed version was initially released on Partch's Gate 5 label. The
> "Scene 10" that Jack mentioned has a terrific title: "The Cognoscenti Are
> Plunged Into A Demonic Descent While At Cocktails". My introduction to Partch

This was also released on CD -- I got my copy about 5 years back.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Pirate's Life
Date: 23 Oct 1997 09:04:24 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-22 19:42:23 EDT, you write:

<<  And then there's YO HO OH-OH, A PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEEEEEEEEE! >>

And don't the lyrics say something like, "we rape and pillage and plunger . .
. "

Not to PC for Disney.  Would not past muster with the Barney youth of today
but we baby boomers love it!

Robert


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: More Disney from a big kid.
Date: 23 Oct 1997 09:04:21 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 97-10-22 14:12:07 EDT, you write:

<< Is THIS your link? (say it like a magician revealing a card)

 http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html (Yesterland - The Yesterday of
Disneyland)

 m.ace
 [e-mail]
  >>

I always liked The General Electric
Carousel of Progress

". . . Now is the time, now is the best time, now is the best time of your
life  . . . forget all your cares - live every minute - life's a suprise -
watch how you win it."

Want more?

Since 1975, the show has had a new home in the Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney
World. In the move to Florida, the show lost its Progress City act and its
original theme song. In 1985, General Electric dropped its sponsorship. A
1994 renovation restored the original theme song.

With too much time on my hands,

Robert



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Phuture Lounge Show - 19 Oct.
Date: 23 Oct 1997 05:45:09 -0600


Well, this was my last Phuture Lounge show until god knows when. I present
the playlist from 19 Oct. 1997 when my special guest was THE KINKY
SPECIALIST. Phuture Lounge was on 106.2 FM8, Glasgow, Scotland on Sunday,
1-4pm.

FAMILY OF GOD "Family of God"
THE FREE DESIGN "Umbrellas"
JEAN-JAQUES PERREY "Island in Space"
AMAZING MUSIC OF THE ARP SYNTHESIZER "Cocktails for Two"
SIMON & GARFUNKEL "I'm Fakin' It"
CHRIS MONTEZ "We'll Be Together Again"
KATHLEEN EMERY "Evil Ways"
THE EXOTIC SOUNDS OF DON TIKI "Barbie's Balinese Adventure"
PEREZ PRADO "A La Loco"
SANTIAGO 62 "World Cup Cha Cha Cha"
HORST JANSEN & HIS ORCH. "Happy Bossa"
THE GREEN FUTURE "Honey, Rhythm & Blues"
PETE MOORE ORCH. "Route 66"
JAQUES DENJEAN "Le Train Fou"
THE ORCH. WERNER MUELLER "Body Building"
DE GIAFIERI "Sado Maso"
SERGE GAINSBOURG & JANE BIRKIN "Orang Outan"
JULIE LONDON "Louie, Louie"
NANCY SINATRA "Run For Your Life"
HUGO MONTENEGRO "Off and Running"
MICHEL LE GRAND "Hi Girls"
GRAMMER ROCK "Unpack Your Adjectives"
DIMITRI FROM PARIS "Monsieur Dimitri's Joue De Stylophone"
JIMI TENOR "Cafe Europa (live)"
QUINCY JONES "Brooks 50 cent Tour"
TURN ON "Triple Cause of Poetry"
GIAN PIERO REVERBERI "Le Malizie de Venere Seq. 4"
ANANDA SHANKAR "Light My Fire"
KITTU "Baby, Let's Dance Together"
BOSSA RIO "Zazueira"
PETE MOORE ORCH. "Miami Bossa Nova"
HENRY MANCINI "Something for Cat"
JEAN-JACQUES PERREY "Mr. James Bond"
SUKIA "Vaseline & Sand"
MONSTER MASH
FAMILY OF GOD "You Miserable English Creep"
THE FUNKY TRUMPET OF RAY DAVIES "Green Grow the Rushes"
MEL HENKE "Old MacDonald Had a Girl"
THE ORCH. WERNER MUELLER "The Stripper"
HERB ALPERT "I'm Getting Sentimental Over You"
NANCY DUPONT "Weather Report Love"
GAY FANTASY EXPRESS "Beach Boy"
PETE MOORE "Take 8"
QUINCY JONES "Fever"
RAMSEY LEWIS "Jade East"
JAY BERLINER "Papa Was a Rolling Stone"
LONDON LION ORCH. "Girl on a Motorcycle"
NICOS MAMANQAKIS "The Party"
THE FREE DESIGN "You Be You"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Black Orpheus
Date: 24 Oct 1997 00:06:41 -0500 (CDT)


I'm a film major, and I'm currently in a class where we study Latin American
cinemas...and we saw the film _Black Orpheus_ from 1959, and I didn't know
until the opening credits that none other than Antonio Carlos Jobim did the
music for the film!  It was a great film, and the music wasn't too shabby,
either.  But to my dismay, our class was divided into groups to make
presentations on our four countries of concentration -- Argentina, Brazil,
Mexico, and Cuba, and the group who presented Brazil mentioned nothing about
any of the good music from Brazil!   They only played some newer music from
Brazil that wasn't very exciting.

By the way, does anyone have any info on the release date of the Tzadik Records
Serge Gainsbourg tribute album?   Thanks!

Lisa



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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Virtually uncredited
Date: 24 Oct 1997 11:31:51 +-200


I have a rekkid "by members of the Perez Prado orchestra" called Prado =
Mania on Crown Records. It does sound very similar but funny what a =
difference an uh! makes.=20

Charl


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Harry Partch/The Bewitched
Date: 24 Oct 1997 09:33:32 -0400 (EDT)


At 12:49 PM 10/23/97 +0100, Peter Hipwell wrote:
>
>> From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
>> I have a CRI release of "The Bewitched" -- full-length, two LP set.
>
>This was also released on CD -- I got my copy about 5 years back.


As part of the new The Harry Partch Collection series, CRI will be releasing
a newly re-mastered The Bewitched as Vol. 4 (CRI CD754). The first 4 CDs of
these Gate 5 recordings will be available soon ("Fall 1997" is what CRI says).

--Lou




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From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>
Subject:  (exotica) Harry Partch????
Date: 24 Oct 1997 10:03:05 -0500


Okay, so I've never had the pleasure of hearing this guy - I'm intrigued.

Could somebody gimme an idea of what his "sound" is like (I get the
impression he's heavy on the percussion noodling???).

Thanx!

- Nate



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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Harry Partch????
Date: 24 Oct 1997 10:28:22 -0400 (EDT)


At 10:03 AM 10/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Okay, so I've never had the pleasure of hearing this guy - I'm intrigued.
>Could somebody gimme an idea of what his "sound" is like (I get the
>impression he's heavy on the percussion noodling???).
>- Nate

OK, first imagine scales built on a 43 note "octave".
Then imagine building by hand, from all sorts of found material, the
instruments necessary to play these scales.
Then go to this URL, crank up your soundcard, and marvel:
http://205.216.138.19/~websites/jszanto/instbro/instintr.html

--Lou




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) basic hip moog mix
Date: 24 Oct 1997 10:49:46 -0400 (EDT)


i made two copies of this.  one for a 22 yeard old musician who is studyi=
ng
sound engineering and the other for my parents, ages 75 and 84.  they all
loved it. =20

the moog touches all that come into contact with it and in such delightfu=
l
ways!

side one
MARCH OF THE MARTIANS-Harry Breuer-The Happy Moog! (dedicated to my mento=
r)
YOU ARE THE SUNSHINE OF MY LIFE-Hugo Montenegro-Hugo In Wonder-land
A TASTE OF HONEY-Martin Denny-Exotic Moog
THE MOOG AND ME-Dick Hyman-Moog - The Electric Eclectics of Dick Hyman
GOOD MORNING STARSHINE-Mort Garson-Electronic Hair Pieces
PRELUDE IN E-Les Baxter-Moog Rock
HE=92S THERE WAITING-Ralph Carmichael-The Electric Symphony
APACHE-Hot Butter-Popcorn
TURQUOISE-Emil Richards-Stones
MARRAKESH EXPRESS-Enoch Light-Permissive Polyphonics
THE GIRL FROM IPANEMA-Richard Hayman-Electronic Evolutions
MAINFRAME BLUES-Dave Vorhaus-Electronic Toys
HARPER VALLEY P.T.A.-Gil Trythall-Country Moog
GRAZING IN THE GRASS-Electronic Concept Orchestra-Moog Goove
ELECTRONIC CAN-CAN-Perrey And Kingsley-In Sound From Way Out
LAY LADY LAY-Claude Denjean-Moog!
BLACK AND BLUES-Fred Miller-Sounds Of Love...A To Z
IN THE HEART OF THE ROSE-Jean Jacques Perrey-Amazing New Electronic Pop S=
ound

side two
I SAY A LITTLE PRAYER-Christopher Scott-Switched-On Bacharach
GRANADA-Sid Bass-Moog Espana
BLACK HOLE SUN-Eno And Nomi-The Moog Cookbook
OB-LA-DI, OB-LA-DA-Dick Hyman-The Age Of Electronicus
WHAT=92S NEW PUSSYCAT?-Walter Carlos-Walter Carlos By Request
SLEEPY TIME-Raymond Scott-Soothing Sounds For Baby
SATIE: GYMNOPEDIE NO. 1-Ruth White-Short Circuits
WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS NOW IS LOVE-Enoch Light-Spaced Out
EMOTIONAL BONDAGE SPELL-Louise Huebner-Seduction Through Witchcraft
SMILE A LITTLE SMILE FOR ME-Ron Frangipane-Rated X For Excitement
SCARBOROUGH FAIR-Gershon Kingsley-Music To Moog By
BITS-Roland Hovac-Electronic Toys
KING OF THE ROAD-Gil Trythall-Nashville Gold
LOVE IS BLUE-Electronic Concept Orchestra-Electric Love
WINCHESTER CATHEDRAL-Perrey And Kingsley-Kaleidoscopic Vibrations
ALONE AGAIN NATURALLY-Claude Denjean-Open Circuit
SPINNING WHEEL-The Moog Machine-Switched-On Rock
18TH CENTURY PUPPET-Jean Jacques Perrey-Moog Indigo




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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Black Orpheus
Date: 24 Oct 1997 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT)


>
>
>By the way, does anyone have any info on the release date of the Tzadik Records
>Serge Gainsbourg tribute album?   Thanks!
>
>Lisa
>
>
>
Oh, I too would be interested in this album!  Is Tzadik the John Zorn
label?  For those who may be interested, I am publishing a novel by
Gainsbourg sometime in the winter of '98.

-----------------
Tosh Berman
TamTam Books
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Old and New
Date: 24 Oct 1997 12:37:00 -0400


After all the recent discussion here, I decided it was time to put
Margaret's money where my mouth was, so I asked for the Tipsy CD as my
birthday present this year.

I won't rehash all the comments about Tipsy here, but I think it is Totally
Boss, and I'm playing it about 3 times a day now. It takes the whole
spectrum of exotica HiFi instrument sounds, and genesplices them into some
very 90s drum-loop grooves. . .

Meanwhile a couple of nice old-school finds:


Harry Breuer _Mallet Magic_ (1957, Audio Fidelity). Xylophones, marimbas,
and glockenspiels in all their scintillating monophonic glory! Speaking of
genesplicing, the repertoire is pretty cool too, with "Samba Macabre",
"Maple Leaf Jump" and the awesome standout track, "Bumble Bee Bolero."
Beautiful cover too: mallets and xylophone keys arranged in an abstract
design, against a brilliant red background.

Music question: If a xylophone has metal keys, does it stop being a
xylophone? ("xylo-" = wood)


Admiral stereo demonstration record. (Doesn't actually have a title--white
cover with "Admiral" in red and an abstract design in orangey watercolor) A
lot of demonstration records are pretty boring (e.g. too many classical
cuts), but this one is quite fun. It starts off with a wonderfully pompous
introduction where our manly announcer works in the name "Admiral" no less
than 21 times (I counted). Then there are various selections in different
(helpfully indexed) musical styles, all originally from RCA releases. You
have to love a record whose "discotheque" track is the Three Suns' "Movin
'n Groovin"! A certain daffy quality carries through all the other tracks
as well, even ones I would ordinarily avoid like the "Male Vocal"or the
Boston Pops track.


So I had a strange experience the other day. . .  I guess I have been
listening to 35/40-year-old records for soooo long now. . .

I put on this sampler of "heavy" rock & roll hits from the early 70's. All
that bombastic guitar arena-rock, which saturated my adolescence, and which
I was more than happy to forget about once I went away to college and
discovered new wave, punk, reggae, etc.  Well the weird thing was, there I
am sitting with the headphones on, listening to "Smoke on the Water" and
god save us, Foghat. . . and I, ummm, *liked* it. It was like hearing all
that stuff for the first time, and finding it strangely fresh and exciting.
Maybe it's just knowing more of the context of what that music was
rebelling against. . .

You are my friends so I know you won't laugh at me too much, will you?

Oh wow, man,

 --Ross

||   The Macintosh Witch Doctor:   Ross Orr <[e-mail]>  [phone]
||
||  "The personal-computer industry is now just ending its twenty-first year.
||   The 21st year of the automobile industry was 1908--the year Henry Ford
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From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>
Subject:  (exotica) Test Records....
Date: 24 Oct 1997 12:55:37 -0500


Somewhat responding to Ross' post - one of the best covers for a "test
record" has got to be "Sounds to Scare the Yell Out of You" (something
very close to that) which features "Aurora Model type" forgotten prisoner
skeleton graphics on the cover.....

Tracks include a ping-pong game and marching band (swing to the left
channel, back to the right......) I didn't buy this album however, as
somebody's kid gotta hold of it and colored all over the skeletons and
added "word balloons" outta their mouths in pen - forget what the skinny
guys were saying.....

- Nate



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From: [e-mail] (Susan Pascal)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Old and New
Date: 24 Oct 1997 10:11:04 -0700 (PDT)


The Question: If a xylophone has metal keys, does it stop being a
xylophone? ("xylo-" = wood)
_______________________

Yes!
The xylophone has wooden bars, as does the marimba.
But the vibraphone (aka vibraharp & vibes) has metal bars, as does the
glockenspiel (carried upright in marching bands), and the orchestra bells
(a refined type of glockenspiel) used in symphonic music.
Those little mallet instruments sold in toy stores for kids are often made
of metal but labeled "xylophone," a misnomer.

See the site of mallet percussion edification:::
http://www.accessone.com/~supascal/aboutvibes.html

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From: [e-mail] (John Jones)
Subject: (exotica) Friggin' In The Riggin'?
Date: 24 Oct 1997 17:23:28 GMT


Hey All!

Brian:
Do you know whether or not this pirate tune you mentioned is the same
one done by the post-Rotten Sex Pistols?

I never knew that this was really an old pirate ditty........

Learn sumptin new every day....;)


John
--
No one will ever know exactly why or how, but by the
year 2050, everyone born in Baltimore will look=20
exactly like Ernest Borgnine.

Drew Friedman


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From: Ariel Tagar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Special weekend finds!
Date: 24 Oct 1997 19:03:31 +0200 (IST)


I came early to the eastern flea market and got these fine items:

"Disco 303"- an old turntable in great shape
2 small 60's wooden speakers covered with some fancy plastic designs
vinyls:
1) "intoducing: Stereo 70" (AM records) including the Sand pipers, claudine
longet and many more
2)"EASY LISTENING" (2Lp) (Polydor)- bert keampfert, norrie paramor, roberto
delgado,kai warner, gunter kallmann....
3)"Cantagiro 1969 & casatshock" (cbs) italian.
4)Klaus Wunderlich- 24 Flim melodies (Royal Sound Stereo)
5)Enoch Light and the light brigade- "Magnificent movie themes" (command
records)
6)VIVA L'ITALIA! another italian
7)Tekeshi Terauchi and the Bunnys- "GO GO Classics" japanese
8)Eydie Gorme- "Blame it on the bpssa nova"
The EASY PAGE, Easy listening and lounge culture.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/3076
Ariel Tagar <[e-mail]>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Fwd:  Wild Hats & other special events
Date: 24 Oct 1997 03:38:46 -0400 (EDT)



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Van Go's Ear.  So do drop by and join us for another great night of
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(And remember our Wild Hat/Headdress/Hairstyle Halloween Party with
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From: James Paul McKay <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Enchanted Tiki, Tiki, Tiki Room
Date: 24 Oct 1997 07:09:14 -0700 (PDT)


One of the scarier things I have encountered recently was in the Disney
store in Atlanta where they are selling a CD with the song "The Enchanted
Tiki, Tiki, Tiki Room (Macarena Beat)". I only pray that it doesn't end
up part of the revamped attraction.

Does anyone know whether Disney's Polynesian Village Hotel is still open at
Disney World in Orlando? I have been dying to go there for a long time but
can not find any informaion about it.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mouse Turds
Date: 24 Oct 1997 15:24:51 -0400


> From: Carl Russo <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Mouse Turds
>
> Of course I later returned and got stoned in Tomorrowland.
> It made everything in the Magic Kingdom seem so fascistic--
> "YOU VILL HAVE FUN!"   Now I wouldn't give Disney two
> cents. Employing Haitian sweatshop labor fer Chris'sakes!

A few years ago, I read that Disney was selling their comic books in China for
an outrageously high price -- like only high party officials would be able to
afford them. But I can't remember exact details, so I'd better leave it at
that.

Ron Goulart's book, "The Assault On Childhood" has an entire 30 page chapter on
the history of the Disney machine. It's out of print, but if you can scare up a
copy somewhere, it's interesting reading. Their aggressive cross-marketing
tactics are nothing new. A very scary company. If Disney and Microsoft ever
join forces, we are doomed for sure.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Black Orpheus
Date: 24 Oct 1997 15:35:58 -0400


"Black Orpheus" is one of my favorite favorite films. I don't know if it's
because they're working with mythological archtypes, but it feels like a dream.
Jobim's music certainly helps -- very haunting melodies -- I can hear them now.
It's also terrific the way the carnaval rhythms are constantly percolating
away, sometimes in the foreground -- sometimes off in the distance. When they
finally disappear during the underworld sequence, it's a very powerful silence.

Gee, do they include El Santo in the Mexican cinema screenings?

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Harry Partch????
Date: 24 Oct 1997 15:53:16 -0400


> From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Harry Partch????
> OK, first imagine scales built on a 43 note "octave".
> Then imagine building by hand, from all sorts of found material, the
> instruments necessary to play these scales.
> Then go to this URL, crank up your soundcard, and marvel:
> http://205.216.138.19/~websites/jszanto/instbro/instintr.html

I wouldn't call Sitka Spruce "found material" -- that's prime acoustic guitar
wood.

Maybe this is covered somewhere at the website -- a story I recall about Partch
is that he was a traditionally trained composer, but after coming up with his
new ideas, he made a bonfire of all his earlier scores. Do I have this too
badly twisted?

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From: NATHAN MINER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Viva el Santo!!!
Date: 24 Oct 1997 16:11:13 -0500


They should....he's only made over 100 of the damn things!!!!! Amazing.

- Nate



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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fake Hawaiian
Date: 24 Oct 1997 16:26:28 -0400


Nate asked:

>I swear, one of the most
>"repackaged" genres must by hawaiian music.  I must have 3 or 4 albums
>with identical tracks.

>This makes total sense since there is a limited "canon" of traditional
>Hawaii tunes....anybody else second this or am I full of sh*t???


Cheesed-out pseudo-Hawaiiana is a favorite of mine too. . .

Back in April, Tony Wilds (who seems to have drifted off the list) said:

>Most of the knockoff
>labels put out multiple versions of some public-domain stuff. There is one
>Hawaiian record on at least 6 labels, in at least 24 jackets, and attributed
>to at least 12 different artists. Learning the track titles is your only
>protection.

I'm pretty sure I know which one he meant: I've got at least 3 LPs of the
same "hawaiian" group under different names. . . But Tony got one thing
wrong, even the track titles change. The one I'm thinking of is the one with
one truly weird-ass vocal track, where the guy bellows:

Oooeeey UNGA oooaaaa-waayyy!!!   [etc., etc.]

Sound familiar? . . . I suspect this is just some Nashville session man
liquored out of his noggin.

Cheers,

 --Ross

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) In praise of Thurl..
Date: 24 Oct 1997 13:36:43 -0700


For those of you who don't know who Thurl Ravenscroft is, he's one of the
most popular 'behind the scenes' voices for Disney theme parks. Among other
things, he's the Enchanted Tiki Room's German bird (Yavol!), the lead vocal
in Grim Grinning Ghost (from the Haunted Mansion) as well as one of the
lead voices in Pirates of The Carribean just to name a few. A friend of
mine was going to do a short film about his life, and we went on the
internet 411 and typed in  his name. Sure enough, there was Thurl's phone
number in Brea, CA so we called him. He wasn't home but it was amazing to
hear his answering machine message. We knew immediatley we had the right
guy.

I'm not sure why I wrote all this except the Disney posts, reminded me of
him. For the record, he's also "Tony The Tiger" and the uncredited vocalist
for "You're A Mean One Mr. Grinch". Someone will probably correct me here,
but I believe he was  in a musical group called "the Mellomen" and 'The
Thurl Ravenscroft Singers"? He's actually got quite a cult following.
Anyway, sorry to go off subject...

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Disney's Polynesian
Date: 24 Oct 1997 18:09:00 -0600


>Does anyone know whether Disney's Polynesian Village Hotel is still open at
>Disney World in Orlando? I have been dying to go there for a long time but
>can not find any informaion about it.


yup.  It's still there...

http://www.disney.com/DisneyWorld/Resorts/Res68.html





visit...

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The combustible big time
Date: 24 Oct 1997 19:06:01 -0400 (EDT)


Well, if being booted means you've made it, then look what just popped up in
alt.music.bootlegs:


Newsgroups: alt.music.bootlegs

wtd all combustible edison boots!


My question: are there any and how do *we* get some?

-Lou


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Harry Partch????
Date: 24 Oct 1997 23:00:31 -0400 (EDT)


Partch was classically trained (as was Conlon Nancarrow - the guy who wound
up hand-punching player piano rolls for his wild, rhythmic,
precursor-to-mechanical-music, explorations).  But he felt like western music
had strayed from true intonation, developed his own microtonal scale, got a
grant, went to England where he had a special organ built to his specs, met
Yeats, came back to the U.S., spent a chunk of the 30s hoboing around America
(and, I could be wrong about this but I think this is right, engaging in
lusty man-to-man sex).  At some point he landed in the Sausalito shipyards
where he made a massive marimba out of the nose-cones of torpedo shells.  His
journals are fascinating.  He's a big inspiration to Tom Waits (wildly sonic)
Frank Trilogy.  *AND* He's got some of the coolest titles this side of
Charles Mingus, like "The Cognoscenti Plunged Into Hell While at Cocktails"
(just to make the loungey connection).

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From: [e-mail] (John Jones)
Subject: (exotica) Friggin In The Riggin
Date: 25 Oct 1997 14:57:36 GMT


Sorry if you are seeing this for the second time.........I musta
screwed up when I originally posted it...so here goes again!

It was mentioned that the song "Friggin' In The Riggin'" was on some
pirate tune album.....Disney was it?

Anyway, I was wondering if this is the same tune that the post-Rotten
Sex Pistols did in the film and soundtrack of "The Great Rock And Roll
Swindle"?

Hilarious cartoon bit that was......;)


John
--
No one will ever know exactly why or how, but by the
year 2050, everyone born in Baltimore will look=20
exactly like Ernest Borgnine.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) vymura?
Date: 25 Oct 1997 13:09:31 -0400 (EDT)


The discussion of vinyl washing prompted a memory....During the mid-8T's I
was told a tale of northern soul 45 collectors who would, upon finding a rare
copy of a record, wash the label itself off with a substance I think was
called vymura. This prevented other DJ's and entrepreneurs from knowing the
title, artist, label, matrix #, etc. giving the possessor of the 45 some
"exclusivity".....Jimmy/sharing rumor


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From: Ariel Tagar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Japanese calassics
Date: 25 Oct 1997 20:05:36 +0200 (IST)


I found an old vinyl by "Tekeshi Terauchi and the Bunnys",
its called  "GO GO Classics" (by Royal Sound Stereo). There no year
mentioned, its a group of 7 japanese guys and a girl doing calssic covers. I
dont realy dig
these calassic's covers but these guys are very good. I was wondering
if anyone knew about other stuff they did.
Ariel
The EASY PAGE, Easy listening and lounge culture.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/3076
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From: "Jordana Robinson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Indian Vibes
Date: 25 Oct 1997 14:09:02 PDT


Here is a thread from Oct 7th that I just came across.

First, Ariel wrote:

>Can someone tell me where can I get that groovey sitar track?
>I dont know if thats the track's name (indian vibes) or the group's
>name, anyway its nowhere to be found around here and I really want
>it.
>Ariel

Then Charl wrote:

>Try 'within you without you' by the Soulful Flutes. Or maybe
>anything by Bulsara (not Freddy Mercury!) and his singing sitars.
>Also some stuff off the Vampyros Lesbos CD. Or maybe Lord Sitar on
>the Sound Gallery???
>Tell us more........

I have a 12" called "Indian Vibes" that is probably the one Ariel refers
to.  The group is called Mathar, and it features Paul Weller (yes, the
guy from the Jam and the Style Council) playing the sitar!  I got it in
London, around '95, at the height of the whole Britpop and Mod Revival
thing (the Blow Up club and whatnot).  It's an excellent sitar groove
that fits in well with vintage stuff; probably it's a cover of something
from the 60s or 70s.

Every so often the "sitar thread" pops up and we get some nice lists of
exotic sitar-flavored ez listening.  Is it that time again?

-Jordana
np, appropriately: Gabor Szabo - Jazz Raga

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sitar Grooviness
Date: 25 Oct 1997 15:01:01 -0700


Ananda Shankar - Ananda Shankar (Reprise) with Moog
This ab-so-lute-ly rules!!!

Vinnie Bell - Pop Goes The Electric Sitar
Great easy listening Electric Sitar instrumentals by the man who invented
the thing INCLUDING a killer version of QUIET VILLAGE!

Lord Sitar - Lord Sitar (Capitol/EMI)

101 Strings - Sounds of Today (Alshire)
A couple/few really good Electric Sitar tracks

Big Jim Sullivan - Sitar Beat (Mercury)
This RULES!!!

Gabor Szabo - Jazz Raga
Simply great

Chim Kothari - ?? forget the title (Deram)
Really good pop instro Electric Sitar versions of POP titles of the day,
the day being around 1968

I've got a 45rpm single of Blue Cheer, YES, BLUE CHEER, where on the flip
of some horrid HARD HARD rock piece is this totally freaked out sitar and
Moog Instro
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa whoooooooooooooooooooooo!

That's just off the top of my head, more later

Jack


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sitar Grooviness
Date: 25 Oct 1997 19:06:46 -0400 (EDT)


<< Ananda Shankar - Ananda Shankar (Reprise) with Moog
Vinnie Bell - Pop Goes The Electric Sitar
Lord Sitar - Lord Sitar (Capitol/EMI)
101 Strings - Sounds of Today (Alshire)
Big Jim Sullivan - Sitar Beat (Mercury)
Gabor Szabo - Jazz Raga
Chim Kothari - ?? forget the title (Deram)>>

i have two to add but cannot vouch for either because i've been on the
lookout for each of them for over 4 years now!  not once have i ever seen
them advertised. i've searched through specialty stores, web sites,
collector's sale lists, goldmine.  the same holds true for any of the group
Jack listed above, except for Jazz Raga and Sounds of Today.  these pop sitar
LP's are tough finds!  hopefully my good "vinyl karma" will eventually pay
off, but i'm getting impatient.

what's up with:

THE NIRVANA SITAR AND STRING GROUP - Sitar and Strings
RAJPUT AND THE SEPOY MUTINY - Flower Power Sitar

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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sitar Grooviness
Date: 25 Oct 1997 19:20:26 -0700


>THE NIRVANA SITAR AND STRING GROUP - Sitar and Strings

I remember I had this a looooooooooooong time ago, maybe 4 years and it was
sealed!

I opened it to hear it but it didn't make me crazy so I sold it to Mickey
McGowan
He was a happy boy:)  Didn't make him crazy either BUT he's a pop sitar
rekkid collector and he's my musical mentor sooooooooooooooooooo

>RAJPUT AND THE SEPOY MUTINY - Flower Power Sitar

I've heard OF it , but don't know

Jack


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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sitar Grooviness
Date: 25 Oct 1997 23:23:13 -0400


>>RAJIPUT AND THE SEPOY MUTINY - Flower Power Sitar
>
>I've heard OF it , but don't know

I've had this one for a couple years--it has about three or four really
funny tracks (like "Child of Love" and "Beautiful Beautiful Flower"), and
the rest is so-so. Cool cover, though. It's on the Design label, a prime
source for low budget go-go sounds. ^_-

On a semi-related note, I scored the Barbarella soundtrack today!!!! Is that
Vinnie Bell playing the wacked out guitar pieces? It must be, no one else
can make a guitar scream and babble like that! ^_-

Thanks for the space, Jessica (who is very,very happy)

PS--I bought the Harlow soundtrack too, just because it has two wordless
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Barbarella/Vinnie Bell
Date: 25 Oct 1997 20:38:47 -0700


>On a semi-related note, I scored the Barbarella soundtrack today!!!!

Congratulations Jessica:)  Dats a good'un and hard to find too

Is that
>Vinnie Bell playing the wacked out guitar pieces? It must be, no one else
>can make a guitar scream and babble like that! ^_-

Correctumundo.  That's also Vinnie Bell on Moon Gas with Mary "Harlow" Mayo


Jack


>PS--I bought the Harlow soundtrack too, just because it has two wordless
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) MONSTROUS MOVIE MUSIC
Date: 25 Oct 1997 13:22:58 +0100


forwarded from [e-mail]:

MONSTROUS MOVIE MUSIC       (MMM-1950)
MORE MONSTROUS MOVIE MUSIC  (MMM-1951)

Presenting the first two volumes in the acclaimed CD series of music
from classic science fiction films!

"Monstrous Movie Music" contains an hour of previously-unreleased music
from Them!, The Mole People, It Came From Outer Space, and It Came From
Beneath The Sea.

"More Monstrous Movie Music" contains an hour of previously-unreleased
music from Tarantula, The Monolith Monsters, The Beast From 20,000
Fathoms, and Gorgo.

Both CDs are performed by the Radio Symphony Orchestra of Cracow and
conducted by Masatoshi Mitsumoto.

Each CD contains a 32-page illustrated booklet that will tell you more
about monster music than you ever dreamed possible.  Digital times from
your CD player's readout are included within the text so you can follow
along with the music while you read about it.  Specially-commissioned
cover art is by Robert Aragon.

Here's what some critics have said about "Monstrous Movie Music" and
"More Monstrous Movie Music."

TOP TEN FILM MUSIC ALBUMS OF THE YEAR:  Tower Records

"Brilliant new digital re-recordings of classic sci-fi scores." -- The
Los Angeles Times

"Gosh!  Wow!  These suites from classic science fiction thrillers will
leap off your stereo speakers and grab you.  From a technical
standpoint, these recordings are flawless.  The booklets are a history
lesson in themselves." -- Cult Movies

"Truly magnificent.  The sound is outrageous!  The 32-page booklets that
come with each CD are worth the price alone!" -- SPFX

"Bravo!  They're great!" -- Chris Young, composer (Species, Hellraiser,
The Fly II, Tales From The Hood)

"Must-haves.  If you like to think of yourself as a fan and a supporter
of these movies and their music, I've got news for you -- you're NOT,
unless you order these CDs pronto." -- VideoScope

"Some of the 1950's best monster music.  Inventive, dynamic,
infectious.  The renditions are flawless and painstakingly faithful."
-- Cinefantastique

"Monstrous Movie Music and More Monstrous Movie Music are dreams come
true.  Excellent liner notes." -- Film Score Monthly.

"Two cool CDs which... showcase superb digital re-recordings of musical
scores from some 1950's sci-fi classics." -- The Sci-Fi Channel

"Put these on your 'must-have' list.  They are indispensable.  Special
note must be made of the 32-page booklets." -- Filmfax

"These masterfully produced CDs are the big ones!  [Monstrous Movie
Music] has set the standard for all future classic score recordings" --
Scarlet Street

"[The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms" is a first-rate improvement over the
original." -- Ray Harryhausen

"Amazing!  It's like having a time machine and being able to go back to
the original scoring sessions!"  -- Bob Burns, renowned sci-fi expert.

"The music is strong enough and distinctive enough to please both the
fans of horror movies and film score aficionados." -- Movieline

FEATURED ON NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO, "STRANGE UNIVERSE," AND THE SCI-FI
CHANNEL

LOOK FOR ARTICLES ON US COMING OUT IN THE WASHINGTON POST AND MIX
MAGAZINE.

On a technical note, we close-miked the orchestra, so our recordings
sound more vibrant than most film music re-recordings.  Our intent was
to make the music sound the way it might been heard if you'd been at the
original studio scoring sessions.  As a result, you'll hear a lot more
orchestral detail than you're used to hearing in soundtrack albums.

If you're interested in limited-edition autographed CD booklets by
composer Herman Stein (Tarantula, Creature From The Black Lagoon, This
Island Earth, The Mole People, It Came From Outer Space) or Irving Gertz
(The Monolith Monsters, The Deadly Mantis, The Incredible Shrinking Man,
It Came From Outer Space, The Creature Walks Among Us), the cost is
[cut] for each CD.  Only one autograph per CD, so you'll have to
specify which CD you want signed by which composer.

We also have extremely limited-edition prints autographed by Stein and
Gertz of scores from some of the films whose music we recorded.  We
usually mail out a score order form when people buy our CDs, but if you
request it in advance we'll send you a copy.  When framed, the prints
are extremely attractive works of art, and proceeds go to the composers
as our way of thanking them for allowing us to record their music.

We can be reached at:

e-mail:  [e-mail]

We would love to get your feedback on our CDs, and we'd like to know
what music you want to have recorded in the future.  One of our next two
releases will include the complete score from This Island Earth, with
music by Herman Stein, Hans Salter, and Henry Mancini.  If you have any
questions about '50s monster music, feel free to ask us.

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Afro Lounge
Date: 26 Oct 1997 13:41:10 +0100


it's not lounge, but certainly black exotica: David Fanshawe's "African
Sanctus" (LP, Philips 6558 001, UK, 1975): it's a composition for choral
group, percussion and African tapes. sounds a bit like a mix of
"Koyaanisqatsi" and  (a less manic version of) Mekanik Destruktiv
Kommandoh's "Magma"...

        Johan
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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Virtually uncredited  -Reply
Date: 26 Oct 1997 19:53:54 +-200


A Perez tune popped up on the soundtrack to a film I saw a while back.
Forget the title, but it was a low-budget deal about a bunch of "would be"
armored car theives.  They stop by a "lunch cart" and Perez is barreling
through a number in the background.


I also loved the Perez Prado they used in (I think) Spanish film 'KIKA' .
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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re:  Afro Lounge
Date: 26 Oct 1997 19:50:10 +-200




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Sent:     26 October 1997 02:41


it's not lounge, but certainly black exotica: David Fanshawe's "African
Sanctus" (LP, Philips 6558 001, UK, 1975): it's a composition for choral
group, percussion and African tapes. sounds a bit like a mix of
"Koyaanisqatsi" and  (a less manic version of) Mekanik Destruktiv
Kommandoh's "Magma"...

This also takes the form of an African Mass but Fanshaw uses influences =
from all over the world. It is one of the strangest pieces I've heard. =
Recently it was revived and performed again in South Africa...
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dunwich Horror
Date: 26 Oct 1997 13:24:29 -0800


At 11:59 AM 10/26/97 -0500, you wrote:
Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
>It is the same song rearranged several times.  The Main Title is fine, but
>by the third track, familiarity creeps in.  I had a friend play it for me (
>I only have two tracks).  Frankie says, "Don't buy".

Well Brian,

That's not that uncommon about film soundtracks in general, the
"reoccurring theme"
In fact it's quite common

Personally I think it's a masterpiece and and am tremendously thankful I
have it, but that's just me:)

Jack


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Scratched Records? Feh!
Date: 26 Oct 1997 16:56:44 -0500 (EST)


So I wander into a junk store that masquerades as an antique shop and the
guy's got a pile of discs, $2 each. So although I don't usually spend more
than a buck, I checked them out and put aside 10 possibilities. Every single
one is scratched to hell and I put them all back.   He says "you don't want
'em?" I tell him about their condition and he says, "Aaaah the scratches
don't mean nothin.  I know a guy's got a machine  takes out all the
scratches" .  I'm sorry, but I didn't get any further information. I was too
busy laughing.


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From: Taro HOSHIJIMA <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Japanese calassics
Date: 27 Oct 1997 07:34:20 +0900


On Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:05:36 +0200 (IST)
Ariel Tagar <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I found an old vinyl by "Tekeshi Terauchi and the Bunnys",
> its called  "GO GO Classics" (by Royal Sound Stereo). There no year
> mentioned, its a group of 7 japanese guys and a girl doing calssic covers. I
> dont realy dig
> these calassic's covers but these guys are very good. I was wondering
> if anyone knew about other stuff they did.

He is known as "God of Electric Guitar" here in Japan, and is influential
to most of Japanese guitarists in 60s and 70s.  The Bunnys is his early
70s (or late 60s) outfit...before and after that he lead "Blue Jeans."
He is now mostly touring junior high schools around Japan...remembering
that many teachers banned electric guitars in the 60s.

Taro


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Japanese calassics
Date: 26 Oct 1997 21:21:00 -0500


> > I found an old vinyl by "Tekeshi Terauchi and the Bunnys",
> > its called  "GO GO Classics" (by Royal Sound Stereo).
>
> He is known as "God of Electric Guitar" here in Japan, and is influential
> to most of Japanese guitarists in 60s and 70s.  The Bunnys is his early
>
> Taro

The Bunnys track, "Test Driver" appears on the (vinyl) comp, "Monster A Go-Go:
Teen Trash From Psychedelic Tokyo '66-'69, Vol. 1" (Planet X). It's a totally
terrific rock instro with great dynamics. It's good to finally learn a little
something about them. Thanks.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Scratched Records? Feh!
Date: 26 Oct 1997 22:21:47 -0500 (EST)


In a message dated 97-10-26 17:01:53 EST, you write:

<<  I know a guy's got a machine  takes out all the
 scratches" >>
It's called a "belt sander".
Regards,
Chuck


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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Harry Partch????
Date: 27 Oct 1997 13:23:15 GMT


> From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>

>
> Maybe this is covered somewhere at the website -- a story I recall
> about Partch
> is that he was a traditionally trained composer, but after coming up with his
> new ideas, he made a bonfire of all his earlier scores. Do I have this too
> badly twisted?

I've never heard that about Partch (which, of course, doesn't
mean it didn't happen), but it might be that you are getting mixed up
with Varese, who, on emigrating to America, made such a bonfire.



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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The combustible big time
Date: 27 Oct 1997 10:58:19 -0500 (EST)


At 01:30 PM 10/26/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>wtd all combustible edison boots!
>>My question: are there any and how do *we* get some?

>none that I know of, Lou.........but we did a number of live radio
>broadcasts in Europe last year, and I wouldn't be surprised if any of those
>showed up somewhere. Keep me updated, if you hear any more about
>this........I want them, too!
>cleve

A quick look at The Trade tape-trading site, at
<http://www.preferred.com/~pete/the_trade/band_listings/c.htm>
shows the following tapes/CD in circulation:

Combustible Edison - Bimbo's 365, SF - 11/13/95 - 70 min (FM->DAT-M)

A CD COMBUSTIBLE EDISON CROCODILE SEATTLE 11-1-95 71M. CROWD NOISE

Artist Date Location Venue Length Source Quality Note
Combustible Edison/FODM 20-Jul-96 Ottawa, Ontario National Gallery Amphitheatre
60 min fm A+ RealTime


I suppose trades for these tapes can be worked out directly with the
individuals listed at The Trade site.

The Hot Wacks bootleg WWW site may have more items listed. They're at:
<http://www.bootlegs.com/index.html>

I'll let y'all know if I find any other listings.

-Lou




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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Fake Hawaiian
Date: 27 Oct 1997 12:54:56 -0400


Otto asked:

>>Oooeeey UNGA oooaaaa-waayyy!!!   [etc., etc.]
>
>So what is the name of this lp?


Well that is the "album of many names" I was posting about. . . I have the
song under the titles:

"Hawaiian Rock" by Leni Okehu and his Surfboarders
    on _Hawaiian Holiday_ (International Award Records)

"Hawaiian Holiday" by Jonnie Aluani and his Orchestra
    on _Hawaiian Interlude_ (Pirouette Records)

"Hawaiian Holiday" by Lani Scott and Orchestra
    on _Hawaiian Holiday_ (Acorn Records)


I may have already pitched out some other copies under different names.


It comes across as a one-take wonder by some out-of-work Rockabilly band. .
. there are actually some nice tracks on it--but you really only need one
copy!

Aloha,

 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Harry Partch????
Date: 27 Oct 1997 12:00:55 -0800


>
>> From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
>
>>
>> Maybe this is covered somewhere at the website -- a story I recall
>> about Partch
>> is that he was a traditionally trained composer, but after coming up with
his
>> new ideas, he made a bonfire of all his earlier scores. Do I have this too
>> badly twisted?
>
>I've never heard that about Partch (which, of course, doesn't
>mean it didn't happen), but it might be that you are getting mixed up
>with Varese, who, on emigrating to America, made such a bonfire.
>

It is true -- Partch burned all of his early scores in his mid-twenties,
around the
same time that he formulated his extended just-tuned scale and began
constructing
his own instruments.  I think he describes this whole episode in 'Bitter
Music',
which is a collection of his writings.  I highly recommend this book to
Partch
fans -- it contains some of his journals from his hobo journeys around
California
in the 30s and several essays that reveal a lot about his personal
philosophy.

-Brian



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From: [e-mail] (R.Preston Peek)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Scratched Records? Feh!
Date: 27 Oct 1997 14:05:27 -0400


>In a message dated 97-10-26 17:01:53 EST, you write:
>
><<  I know a guy's got a machine  takes out all the
> scratches" >>
>It's called a "belt sander".

Definitely from the same genus as the "scratch remover:"   Many years ago
when I was a hippie carpenter we never despaired if we cut a piece of wood
an inch or two too short; we just sent the rookie out back to fetch the
"lumber stretcher."  (You'd be surprised how long some of those guys stayed
out there looking for it...)



Exotica/Et Cetera -- "Celebrating the Vinyl LP as Art, Amusement and Artifact."
and
www.vinyllives.com -- "It's the closest thing you can get to
flipping through a rack of records without going to a record store."




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From: Vernon Stoltz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The combustible big time
Date: 27 Oct 1997 20:17:13 GMT


At 07:06 PM 10/24/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>wtd all combustible edison boots!
>My question: are there any and how do *we* get some?
>
I don't buy or trade bootlegged concert tapes myself, mainly because there
are so many artists and plenty of legitimate stuff out there already, but I
did pick up last year an issue of a magazine called Taper's Quarterly, "the
magazine of live music and concert tapes"  This was issue #9 (late 1996)
which I bought mainly because the cover and main interview featured
Combustible Edison.

It was an interesting publication, giving both the pros and cons and various
views of taping at live venues.  Interestingly, that issue featured a list
of bands that allow taping, and Combustible Edison was not listed.

Vern



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From: Vik Trola <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Vik's Lounge Newsletter
Date: 27 Oct 1997 19:20:09 -0500


My, my my...it's been a while, friends. To clear up a few rumors. No. Vik
has not been in rehab. Rehab is for drunks and Vik is not drunk yet. No.
Vik has not been taping a recurring role as the DJ for a "lounge" night at
the Peach Pit on Beverly Hills 90210. Vik is simply not pretty enough to be
on 90210 and his DJ skills suck. So where's Vik been? Well, a combo of
casino-hopping jaunts and a new chateau in Alaska (the next hipster
frontier) forced a bit of a hiatus for the lounge, but Vik's back with a
fistful of new features and three cases of bootleg Russian vodka to
celebrate...

First up...38 brand new tracks in Radio Vik's Featured Albums.
(http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/features.html)
Piero Umiliani, Easy Tempo 3, Mo'plen 3000, L'atome, Lat ofthe
International Playboys, Mad Mad World of Soundtracks and more await you in
the improved Featured Albums. Improved, you say? yeppers...the Vik-O-Matic
2000 will choose the best quality broadcast for you with a single click of
that mouse thingy. Broadcasts are not in lo-fi 14.4, mid-fi 28.8 and the
all new hi-fi ISDN...

New news at Swank Times
(http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/mnews.html)
While you're listening to all the swell new audio, read about them over in
Swank News. Plus, catch a glimpse of the upcoming Exotic Trilogy feature at
(http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/news/exotictrilogy.html)

Jettin' with the Jet Set
(http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/jet.html)
New and updated departures for Virginia, Canada, England, California,
Inninois, Michogan, Massachusettes and Pennsylvania. And, as NYC is home to
Vik, Jet Set NYC (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/jetset/nyc.html) get a
bit of an expansion as Vik covers cocktails, shopping and clubbing in the
Big Apple.

Raymond Scott's "Soothing Sounds For Baby"
(http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/ssfb.html)
Thanks to the kind help of Irwin Chusid, Vik can bring you the opportunity
to get these three volumes from one of music's true pioneers. Drop by to
have a listen to excerpts, read about the releases and find out how you can
get them for your very own!

Thirsty? A few new drinks at Vik's Bar
(http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/bar.html)
J'Kazi, Kurrantini, Slo Comfortable Screw and Jumpin' Jack's Jivin' Juice

In a travelling mood? Vik's Valet has a few new tips
(http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/viklink.html)
Claudine Longet, Perez Prado, strange instruments, Disgruntled Housewife,
the Lava Lounge and more!

In other news, a round of drinks on the house for Pea Hicks' Optiganlly
Yours (http://www.pilot.com/optigan) and WFMU (http://wfmu.org) for recent
mentions in the journal of ultra-geekdom, Wired. Vik is mighty jealous, but
will pick up the tab anyway. On the newsstand, you'll find fab new issues
of Cool and Strange, Tiki News and Lounge. Lounge is sporting a slick
glossy cover with an ultra-suave photo of mambo poster boy Joey Altruda.
Over in the Scamp Camp, Ash and the crew have just released Music For TV
Dinners, two volumes from the '50s and '60s of swinging production music
compiled by the Lounge Poet Laureat Joseph Lanza. You can check them out at
http://www.scamp-records.com/moodsong/ or enter to win them at
http://www.caroline.com/grandcentral/games.html. On the future EZ
front...France's Source Records has a marvelous EP collection from AIR.
They've got a full length due in January, but you can get a breath of fresh
AIR (sorry...couldn't resist) at
http://associated.caroline.com/source/air/. Those into the Portishead EZ
dub genre would do wise to drop on over to Melankolic's Alpha
(http://associated.caroline.com/melankolic/alpha/). Melankolic is the new
label from Massive Attack, and Alpha is trippy jazz dub EZ.

waking up in the city that never sleeps,
Vik

Vik's Lounge
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html

Space Age Bachelor Pad Music
http://www.chaoskitty.com/sabpm/




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From: Shangri-la <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Compilation tape
Date: 28 Oct 1997 13:03:47 +-200


Here's a swingy compilation I churned out on request this morning for a friend that loves old swing jazz with a bit of latin soldered on.
Charl.


Concentric compilation

Side One

Rock me back to Little Rock - Lenny Dee
Oh what a beautiful Mornin' - The Peddlers
More, more, more - Carmel
Can't buy me love - Count Basie
Give me the simple life - Ella Fitzgerald
From this moment on - Shirley Bassey
Rockin' on Suicide - Carmel
The Pussy foot - Kirby Stone four
That cat is high - Manhattan Transfer
Comin' home baby - The Peddlers
Foi a Saudade - Charlie Byrd
Light my fire - Astrud Gilberto
Malaguena - Martin Denny
Snake - Fatback
What a difference a day made - Clebanoff

Side Two

Snowman's stomp - Steve Gray
Me and Mrs Jones - The Peddlers
Love can fly - Engelbert
I am in love - Peggy Lee
Le Musicien - Bob de Bruyn
St Louis Blues - Perez Prado
The gypsy in my soul - Shirley Bassey
All of me - Mae West
Bill Bailey, won't you please come home - Julie London
Ridin' high - Doris Day
Into each life some rain must fall - Ella & the Ink Spots
Burn my candle - Shirley Bassey
My kind of town - Frank Sinatra
Stormy Weather - Carmel
My Way - The Peddlers
Crickets sing for Anamaria - Astrud Gilberto

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mancini Books?
Date: 28 Oct 1997 12:38:30 -0500 (EST)


I recently read an interview with Burt Bachrach in which he spoke of books on
arranging written by Henry Mancini.
Anyone know if they're still in print? Who published them? etc.
Thanks in advance.
Zeke


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mancini Books?
Date: 28 Oct 1997 12:04:07 -0800


>
>I recently read an interview with Burt Bachrach in which he spoke of books on
>arranging written by Henry Mancini.
>Anyone know if they're still in print? Who published them? etc.
>Thanks in advance.
>Zeke
>
>

'Sounds and Scores, A Practical Guide to Professional Orchestration' is
in
print (Warner Bros. Publications); it comes with a CD featuring excerpts
from the two Peter Gunn Albums, Mr. Lucky, The Blues and the Beat, and
The Mancini Touch, which correspond to the score examples in the text.
I obtained a copy from Carl Fischer Music in NYC...

-Brian



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From: Vernon Stoltz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new issue of "Cannot Become Obsolete" available
Date: 29 Oct 1997 05:39:36 GMT


Hello;

Although I've posted several messages to this 'Exotica' list the past year,
I've never really introduced myself.  I was waiting to finish the next issue
of this zine I do called "Cannot Become Obsolete", which has been mentioned
a few times by other subscribers to this list.

Well, issue #4 is finally completed and in the mail to those who already
subscribe and here I am finally (and formally) saying "Hello!

My approach to "Cannot Become Obsolete" is somewhat different than other
publications.  I knew that there would be others who could do a much better
job at researching, contacting, and interviewing past performers.  (There
are several good publications which do an excellent job with this)  I
decided to expand in a different direction.  I've always made compilation
tapes for myself and other people, but I always felt that although this
music was good, that something was missing.  Its impossible via cassette to
relay the look of the fantastic covers and the impressions and memories that
the taped music brings.

The result was my home-grown xeroxed publication.  Each record featured on
the tape has an image of the record cover accompanied by a small essay
dealing with various matters.  Sometimes I talk about the artist, sometimes
I'll review a good book or CD, more often than not I'll ramble off into some
personal story concerning my life that may be only slightly tangential to
the actual recording.  Somehow, it all seems to come together well.  The
biggest similarity is probably with the Re/Search Incredibly Strange Music
books.

I do this strictly as a hobby, in fact I lose a little money with each
issue. It is entirely a one man operation, written, collated, stapled, and
limited hand coloring done by myself.  I haven't even taken the time to
learn how to generate printed mailing labels yet, so even the envelopes are
hand addressed.

Issue #4 is rather large, 64 pages.  A sampling of the contents include:
- Wrecking my Car while listening to the 'Ultra-Lounge" CDs
- the Chubby Checker - Patti Smith connection (previously mentioned here)
- the full analysis of how "The Graduate" helped kill the original
'cocktail' scene
- Concert Review, featuring the booing of Ray Charles's backup orchestra
- mystical experiences (my own) while dancing to Middle Eastern music
- Racism at old-time Carnival Freak shows and how this affects calypso music
- a Beatles 'Sound-alike' record
- a review of an old Playboy magazine (1961) for Exotica musical content
- cats flying through space
- John Wayne's "America, Why I Love Her" (and its not for Coors Light beer)
- an LSD influenced lyric analysis of the Beatles "A Day in the Life"
- a drunk driving / nuclear bomb comparison.

As you can see, things can get a little eclectic.

The price is real cheap .... Single issues are $2, a 3 issue subscription is $5
Outside the U.S., single issues are $3, subscriptions $8
If interested, send cash (preferred) or a check made out to "V. Stoltz" to:

                        Cannot Become Obsolete
                        P.O. Box 1232
                        Lorton, VA 22199-1232

If you want to learn more about me, read my zine.  Even my Mom looks forward
to reading each issue to see what mysteries lurk in the corners of my mind.

Thanks for the space. . . .
Vern Stoltz

. . . . . . . . . .
Vern Stoltz     Cannot Become Obsolete
                P.O. Box 1232  Lorton, VA  22199-1232

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica Digest V2 #270
Date: 28 Oct 1997 20:41:49 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

>Has anyone heard the new Brit double CD called "Cult Fiction"? It is loaded
>with TV and movie themes--most of which I don't know or haven't heard due to
>the fact that they are all English (practically)... If so I would appreciate
>some commentary from these parts before dropping the $32.

    are you maybe referring to "this is cult fiction" and "this is the
return of cult fiction", both on Virgin? i had a really hard time getting
the second, and i'm still not sure if it was worth it, especially because
it's so f* expensive (i paid 18 pound, including postage, @ esprit in the
uk). a good thing is that it runs for no less than78 minutes, with 36
tracks; i rated about 16 tracks better than average, the rest is between
just-ok and boring library music that would NEVER make it to a "sound
gallery" or "easy project" comp. killer tracks include "theme from enter
the dragon". uk listeners will appreciate it more than others, as it
features lots of "nostalgic" tv themes, like from the series "vision on".
if someone wants it, i could post a track listing...

        Johan
        [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Cannot Become Obsolete
Date: 29 Oct 1997 14:07:14 -0500 (EST)


I read my first episode of "Cannot Become Obsolete" in May and I'd like to
plug Vern's approach--thoroughly human,  optimistic, and
life-affirming...Check his 'zine out for reading pleasure............Jimmy

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cult Fiction
Date: 29 Oct 1997 14:30:38 -0500


I just bought this, but I got it on cassette.  The sound is quite good and
it had certain things I have been looking for for many years (The Baron).
There are some that are cute (E.V.A., by Jean-Jacques Perrey) some that I
find awful (The New Avengers) and one which sounds original, but is not the
right take (The Thunderbirds sounds as if it was taken from "Thunderbirds
are Go!", so there is no countdown).

My assessment; worth the cassette price, not the CD price.

>>Has anyone heard the new Brit double CD called "Cult Fiction"? It is loaded
>>with TV and movie themes--most of which I don't know or haven't heard due to
>>the fact that they are all English (practically)... If so I would appreciate
>>some commentary from these parts before dropping the $32.


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Put the mask on now!
Date: 29 Oct 1997 21:21:01 -0500


Well, it's so quiet here, I guess I might as well propose this silly string,
er, thread concept:

What's your real or hypothetical costume for an actual or imaginary exotica
Halloween soiree?

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Put the mask on now!
Date: 30 Oct 1997 00:16:33 -0500 (CDT)


I don't know if any of the soirees I will be attending will be of an exotica
nature, but I will be dressed as Jackie O. this Halloween.  I have a black wig
and rounded sunglasses, but I'm unsure on what dress to wear...I already own an
off-white crepe-y sleeveless A-line dress that might suffice, but I'd love to
find a baby pink jacket/skirt set and a pillbox hat...for now I just have a
polka-dotted scarf to go on my head.  I plan to go thrifting tomorrow morning
to procure some better clothes...maybe I'll find some records while I'm at it!

Lisa
[e-mail]
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