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From: "Otis Fodder" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Intersteller Cafe Updates - Sheldon Allman & Art Linkletter
Date: 01 Sep 2001 01:47:39 -0700



Hello all,

2 complete out-of-print LPs will be uploaded each month to The Interstellar
Cafe.
http://www.thebranflakes.com/mofo/icafe/index.html

For the month of September enjoy,

Sheldon Allman - Folk Songs For The 21st Century (1960)
Art Linkletter - narrates the story of "Where Did You Come From (1963)

MP3 format - 128kbps/44.1khz

- Otis


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From: KK <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Good/Bad  Sells/Doesn't Sell
Date: 01 Sep 2001 11:55:23 +0000


bigshot wrote:

The ghettoisation of popular music has only been since the British Invasion when
marketing became more important than the music.

>

I have thaught so for quite some time, too. I think the developement was
furthered after 70s Punk. ItÆs just cool to be working in the popular music
field. ItÆs even cooler not to know much about music in general. I have always
earned my living working in the music business, where I got these ideas.

KK




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From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Vinyl Sale Oct 6  near Boston MA.
Date: 01 Sep 2001 09:53:25 -0400


WICN's "FINAL" VINYL sale is happening at the Heberts Candy Mansion on
October 6th. In Shrewsbury Massachusetts.On Rt 9.

John here from the list just got a car and wants to start looking for LP's.
Well here's a good place for you to show up John. Last year records were $2
each. And who knows. Since this is the "last" sale someone might be able to
get a deal for all the left over Living Strings and Ray Conniff LP's.

But for some reason WICN told me they need movers at the end of the day. I
wonder what they are going to do with all the leftovers. They might just
chuck them.

I think this year there might be more JAZZ LP's. I showed up at the station
1/2 a year ago and noticed the Jazz LP section, about 30 linear feet, was
gone or significantly reduced. The GM said nobody was playing them.

So the Boston exotica list strategy is this: Lets show up at the beginning.
Grab whatever you think looks interesting. Gather around a picnic table
(it's outside) and exchange and swap among ourselves.  Get high sniffing
musty old LPs. And revel in the vinyl fetish!!

My next post will be about the meeting I had with the program director at
WICN. This is not the station I do my own show on, but was hoping some day
to substitute at or even get my own program.

Domenic Ciccone
"Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST
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From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Intersteller Cafe Updates - Sheldon Allman & Art
Date: 01 Sep 2001 11:03:46 -0400


Otis - you are positively beautiful!  What a wonderful thing to do !

Otis Fodder wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> 2 complete out-of-print LPs will be uploaded each month to The Interste=
llar
> Cafe.
> http://www.thebranflakes.com/mofo/icafe/index.html
>
> For the month of September enjoy,
>
> Sheldon Allman - Folk Songs For The 21st Century (1960)
> Art Linkletter - narrates the story of "Where Did You Come From (1963)
>
> MP3 format - 128kbps/44.1khz
>
> - Otis

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From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) <---on Public Radio
Date: 01 Sep 2001 12:24:42 -0400


Mentioned this on the Luxuriamusic board. So some of you are going to get
this twice. Some of you (like Darrell B) gave me some nice advice and want
to let you know what happened.

I passed on an edition of my program to the program director at WICN this
summer. They play Jazz during the day, folk at night and weekend volunteer
hosts doing jazz, American songbook, swing and new age program.

They have been wondering lately how to attract younger listeners. The
average listener is very close 60. A toned down late Saturday afternoon
exotica show would work out great for them. Following the 12-4 PM DJ  who
features swing music circa 1958.

He liked the music I was playing. He thinks I put togeter a good show. He
used to DJ adventurous programs years ago when WICN was affiliated with the
Worcester colleges, but we got into one of those cyclic "What do people
want" conversations. They have plenty of evidence that if the music get a
little too wild the folks switch off to top 40 classical radio.

He specifically mentioned Martin Denny and how he would be somebody a little
adventurous to play. 'Ol Marty is pretty tame compared to some of the other
exotica/SABP things we talk about here. So even if I got a program I would
be high maintnance  for him.

WICN is doing better than they ever had. The GM's business strategy of
consistent pleasant jazz without all the hard saxophones solos and neutral
almost personality-less hosts seems to be working. The GM once mentioned
that they have people on the air now that he does not like. I cant imagine
what he's talking about. None of them sound bad. But he did mention that
on-air people should just read the weather. Don't make any comments about
what you think about the weather. Goodness! Talking about the weather not
appropriate? Practically every human conversations starts out with talking
about the weather.

As a college radio host on WJUL I'm not bad, getting better and the PD
continues to give me pointers, but I will never get up to those NPR
standards.

I've been volunteering at WICN for about 8 years now. Instead of adopting a
"just say 'screw em" and move on" attitude I'm going to continue helping out
where I can.   They do play nice music and have friends who work and
volunteer there.

Public radio may in time loosen up. It may not really be their fault. It's
the public that drives support after all. The GM would play bagpipes all day
if it generated the pledges. Working inside the system instead of outside,
Patiently reminding them that people like me, diehard public radio
listeners, would enjoy and support an exotica program.  Is the way to go.
And maybe in about 20 years when we are in our 60's well get a chance to
play Denny and Esquivel on public radio.

Domenic Ciccone
"Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST
http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/
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From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) <---on Public Radio
Date: 01 Sep 2001 13:51:17 -0400


sigh... poor Domenic... just a rabble-rouser...

Domenic Ciccone wrote:

> As a college radio host on WJUL I'm not bad, getting better and the PD
> continues to give me pointers, but I will never get up to those NPR
> standards.
>
> I've been volunteering at WICN for about 8 years now. Instead of adopti=
ng a
> "just say 'screw em" and move on" attitude I'm going to continue helpin=
g out
> where I can.   They do play nice music and have friends who work and
> volunteer there.
>
> Public radio may in time loosen up. It may not really be their fault. I=
t's
> the public that drives support after all. The GM would play bagpipes al=
l day
> if it generated the pledges. Working inside the system instead of outsi=
de,
> Patiently reminding them that people like me, diehard public radio
> listeners, would enjoy and support an exotica program.  Is the way to g=
o.
> And maybe in about 20 years when we are in our 60's well get a chance t=
o
> play Denny and Esquivel on public radio.
>
> Domenic Ciccone
> "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST

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From: "JamesBGerwitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Claudine & Out of Sight
Date: 01 Sep 2001 12:20:19 -0700


Ben-Wa wrote:
<Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:49:58 -0700 (PDT)
i'm sorry i can't answer your question, but claudine
longet's scary-naive breathy schoolgirl voice in
conjunction with the fact that she has killed, with a
handgun, stir me.>

http://www.womenbehindbars.com/

Maybe one of these gals will stir your stew too. Or you can wait until
Kahime Karie gets picked up for shoplifting or parking in a handicapped
zone.

The Rolling Stones have a great song about Ms. Longet called "Claudine," but
drat, I lost the MP3 in a hard drive crash last year.

IIRC there is some Esquivel (or maybe Denny) background music playing in Out
of Sight's cocktail lounge scene with George and Jennifer.

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From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 2
Date: 01 Sep 2001 18:54:08 -0400


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #158   Groovy Music From German Film & TV

Because the World Film Festival is featuring Germany this year, and we al=
l
know German film music can be pretty varied and interesting, we're
playing...you guessed it, German film (and TV) music, mostly from the 60s
and 70s.

Caterina Valente & Silvio Francesco:  Popocatepetl Twist  "Twist In Germa=
ny"
Gert Wilden:  Rolf Torring  "I Told You Not To Cry"
Peter Thomas:  Der Hexer (Titelmusik)  "Kriminalfilmusik No.3"
Jochen Brauer Group & Tender Aggression:  Die Kette  "The Mad Mad World O=
f
Soundtracks Vol. 2"

Ingrid Hoffmann:  Robbi, Tobbi Und  Das Fliewat=FC=FCt  "The Mad Mad Worl=
d Of
Soundtracks Vol. 2"
Martin B=F6ttcher:  Sonderdezernat k 1  "Sound Kaleidoscope"
Gert Wilden:  Hong Kong Twist  "I Told You Not To Cry"
Kai Winding:  Harper  "The Mad Mad World Of Soundtracks Vol. 2"

Orchester Erwin Halletz:  Die F=FCnfte Kolonne  "Strassenfeger"
G=F6tz Alsmann:  Oh Sesam, Bitte =D6ffne Dich!  "Filmreif!"  (thanks, Mo!=
)
Peter Thomas:  Lancet Bossa Nova  "Raumpatrouille"
Gert Wilden:  Beach Party  "I Told You Not To Cry"
Manfred H=FCbler & Siegfried Schwab:  Dedicated To Love  "Vampyros Lesbos=
"

Carlos Diernhammer:  Die Todessrahlen Des Dr. Mabuse  "Kriminalfilmusik
No.4"
Peter Thomas:  Angels Who Burn Their Wings  "The Mad Mad World Of
Soundtracks Vol. 2"
G=F6tz Alsmann:  Scampi Chez Andr=E9  "Filmreif!"
Manfred H=FCbler & Siegfried Schwab:  The Ballad Of A Fair Singer  "Vampy=
ros
Lesbos"


Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Now Sound
Date: 02 Sep 2001 01:56:38 +0000


 The first place I saw the term ôNow Soundö was on a
Brass Ring album, so for me the term has always carried
with it the connotation of groovy dance music with a
bouncy back beat, α la Herb Alpert & TJB, The Brass
Ring, The Bob Crewe Generation, the T-Bones and Xavier
CugatÆs last 4 albums on Decca.  The term Go-go music
pretty much describes what I think of as Now Sound.
While I love ôWarren Kime's Brass Impactö the intensity
of the music almost takes them out of the realm of Now
Sound for me, although they get close on occasion. Also
for the Claus Ogerman albums that seem the most Nowsy,
IÆd go with Saxes Mexicanos and Watusi Trumpets.

The acid test I use for a song being Now Sound, is if
you close your eyes while your listening to it and you
think you might be listening to sound-track music from
the television show Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In then your
listening to The Now Sound.

More Now later,
Roy


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From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 2
Date: 02 Sep 2001 00:15:32 -0400


Ironically, we have this soudtrack, and are playing it on the show - as the
last piece!  It accidentally got missed when I cut and pasted the
playlist!!!

So, the revised playlist has this as the last item:

Berry Lipman:  Star Maidens Theme  "Star Maidens"

cheryl




> Ooh, you really need to track down Berry Lippmann's sdtrk for "Star
Maidens"
> - great German 70s sci-fi music.  Worth it just for the vocal, "Sex
World."
>



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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Claudine & Out of Sight
Date: 02 Sep 2001 00:10:17 -0700 (PDT)


Sonny Jim,

Thanks for the pun and the info. Don't know no Kahime
Karie. Am I missing out?

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From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos
Date: 02 Sep 2001 17:01:46 -0500


Okay, I'm really intrigued by the music in these two, rather Dada, Flash
animations. Since they're uncredited, can anyone tell me who the
performers are?

This is some sort of Swedish kazoo/ukulele combo:

http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/

This seems to be a French children's song:

http://www.yomgaille.com/bordel/un_lapin.html

Obviously, bunnies are a common theme here. Any help with identity or
translation will be much appreciated and may help reduce the pesky
swelling in my brain that occurred after watching both these animations
repeatedly.

--
Matt Marchese
"I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a
nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate)
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From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fwd: Re: Hello
Date: 02 Sep 2001 19:47:00 -0500


---- Begin Included Message ----

Just to let you guys know...Magnus is alive and well.

Sent: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:47:11 +0200 (CEST)


citerar Colleen Pyles <[e-mail]>:

> hi Magnus,
> Just wanted you to know I miss your postings on the list. =A0I know
you
> are busy with your job, but I sure do miss your opinions.
> Colleen
> =A0from the exotica list
>
>
> =A0Colleen


Hi Colleen!
I am writing this email in Norway, Kautokeino. I am very busy with
work, but I will join the exotica list later this year when this work
is finished.

Take care
Magnus


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From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos
Date: 02 Sep 2001 22:15:09 -0400


Lapin means Rabbit.  But that isn't what should be worrying you.  THIS is=
 what
needs to be worrying you: http://www.jocke.com/azar_habib/hatten.swf .


Matt Marchese wrote:

> Okay, I'm really intrigued by the music in these two, rather Dada, Flas=
h
> animations. Since they're uncredited, can anyone tell me who the
> performers are?
>
> This is some sort of Swedish kazoo/ukulele combo:
>
> http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/
>
> This seems to be a French children's song:
>
> http://www.yomgaille.com/bordel/un_lapin.html
>
> Obviously, bunnies are a common theme here. Any help with identity or
> translation will be much appreciated and may help reduce the pesky
> swelling in my brain that occurred after watching both these animations=

> repeatedly.
>
> --
> Matt Marchese

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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos
Date: 02 Sep 2001 22:04:52 -0500


Matt Marchese wrote:
>
> Okay, I'm really intrigued by the music in these two, rather Dada, Flash
> animations. Since they're uncredited, can anyone tell me who the
> performers are?
>
> This is some sort of Swedish kazoo/ukulele combo:
>
> http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/

The ominous-sounding German dude at the start is from Rammstein. There are
also credits to Robert Manuel and the nation of Sweden.

So who's Robert Manuel? I'm afraid to look, but learn more at:

http://www.manuel.org.uk/

>
> This seems to be a French children's song:
>
> http://www.yomgaille.com/bordel/un_lapin.html
>

This one has the following credits at the end...

"Music by Chantal Goya and Benny B" or something like that...

For those who understand French, go to:

http://www.chantalgoya.com/intro.htm


-Indy



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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Boards of Canada mystery
Date: 03 Sep 2001 01:16:16 -0400


There's a cut on a Boards of Canada CD called "roygbiv".
Is that Roy G. Biv?

AZ



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Boards of Canada mystery
Date: 03 Sep 2001 01:19:59 EDT



In a message dated 9/3/01 12:11:42 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< There's a cut on a Boards of Canada CD called "roygbiv".
Is that Roy G. Biv? >>

Yep.

Great, spooky album, by the way.

--Rod
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From: Charles Moseley <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism
Date: 03 Sep 2001 10:35:33 +0100


Records are going for that kind of money because someone somewhere is
willing to pay that much for that record.

Exactly!

But if I'm looking for someone to blame for the high price of some records,
I will look to the people willing to pay those high prices.

Exactly - but how do you know who they are? Have you done a survey?
Research? Or based your knowledge on occasional anecdotal evidence?

I love a good debate! Especially when I thought it had all died away.

Charles Moseley
Editor - C3 magazine
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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism
Date: 03 Sep 2001 09:46:17 -0400


At 10:35 AM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote:
>
.>
>Exactly - but how do you know who they are? Have you done a survey?
>Research? Or based your knowledge on occasional anecdotal evidence?
.
Anecdotal evidence is my middle name.
Charles, you're not the kind of guy that asks everyone to preface their
statements with "In my opinion", are you?
In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television", the
author pointed out that three hundred years ago, if native Americans walked
into the forest and two of them ate a strange plant and died, they'd just
say "Nobody eat that plant".  Now we appoint a commission to study the matter.

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From: Charles Moseley <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism
Date: 03 Sep 2001 15:04:40 +0100


Charles, you're not the kind of guy that asks everyone to preface their
statements with "In my opinion", are you?

No.

We could go on all day with this........ I hope.

But I do think it's very easy to use race or profession to conceptualise a
group of people who have priced records out of your range and who, in fact,
you might be feeling envious of. Japanese/DJs/Japanese DJs rather than a
worldwide interest that, by the rules of supply and demand, has caused the
price of said records to rise.
I don't think I need to use examples of powerful people who have blamed
racial groups for economic and social problems - it's easy to get  the
masses onto your side by inventing a common enemy that people can easily
visualise and despise. For instance can you get us all to picture in our
heads:
1. Japanese record buyers (simple, we've all seen them in shops and at
fairs)
2. DJs (easy, we all have an image of the DJ with his amazing record box
that we'd love to get a look at - there must be some good shit in there, etc
etc.)
3. People who buy Brazilian records (ummmm. Could be anyone!)

So blame the racial or professional group rather than speak the truth. It's
much easier.

Cheers all.

Charles Moseley
Editor - C3 magazine
3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
ISDN: [phone]
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At 10:35 AM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote:
>
.>
>Exactly - but how do you know who they are? Have you done a survey?
>Research? Or based your knowledge on occasional anecdotal evidence?
.
Anecdotal evidence is my middle name.
Charles, you're not the kind of guy that asks everyone to preface their
statements with "In my opinion", are you?
In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television", the
author pointed out that three hundred years ago, if native Americans walked
into the forest and two of them ate a strange plant and died, they'd just
say "Nobody eat that plant".  Now we appoint a commission to study the
matter.

AZ



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad  Sells/Doesn't Sell
Date: 03 Sep 2001 16:18:18 +0100


So whats that Steve, the crap pouring out of the states is suddenly the
fault of those scheming Brits, trying to make up for loss of empire? =
;=AC)

And I think that your generalisation is way off the mark anyway.  =
Theres
popular music and serious music.  It may be interesting to discuss when =
Jazz
jumped from one to the other (if it has).  Serious music has always =
been
music that appeals to the educated middle classes, and that old low =
brow
popular music has always been that which the working classes enjoy.  =
Its a
simple matter of snobbery.

And don't start trying to tell me that Music Hall songs or Vaudeville =
music
is serious....

El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/

> For the first half of the 20th century, popular music *was*
> serious music. The ghettoisation of popular music has only been
> since the British Invasion when marketing became more important than
> the music.
>=20
> See ya
> Steve
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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos
Date: 03 Sep 2001 11:40:46 -0400


Here's an index of some Flash items:
http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Flash/

But here's one of the scariest things I've seen in a while:
http://66.70.24.80/mj_send_01/mj_main.swf

aieeeeeee,
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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell
Date: 03 Sep 2001 16:05:30


>So whats that Steve, the crap pouring out of the states is suddenly the
>fault of those scheming Brits, trying to make up for loss of empire? ;¼)

Yeah Geoff. You exported vertical industrial integration (to ensure a
monopoly on the means of production/distribution), and media conglomerates.
You also exported mass advertising, and all its abuses of the centralisation
of mass communication for ends other than the good of the people, and
production line processes to ensure concentration of profits and economy of
scale which has the side effect of diminishing consumer choice. Madison
Avenue, it is not well known, is just off Oxford Street in Merrie Olde
Englande and is patrolled by the evil sheriff of Notingham (who is now
charging huge fees for likeness rights and has tradmarked his name) and his
'band' of nefarious Americana Popular Music Revisionist Ripoff Merchants.
They can't play a note to boot.

>
>And don't start trying to tell me that Music Hall songs or Vaudeville music
>is serious....
>
>El Maestro Con Queso
>
Now Geoff, with words like that you are spoiling me for a fight...

Rob
PS how about that Michael Owen?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos
Date: 03 Sep 2001 12:41:05 -0500


Indy Rutks wrote:

> This one has the following credits at the end...
>
> "Music by Chantal Goya and Benny B" or something like that...

Interesting, Chantal Goya was a French YeYe star from the 60s who went on to
star in Jean Luc-Godard's "Masculine-Feminine" and sing children's songs in
the 70s. She's apparently still performing today. I assume that she's
associated with the girl and the cartoon rabbit somehow, but I can't tell by
reading the weird translations that Google's search engine produces from the
French webpages.

> For those who understand French, go to:
>
> http://www.chantalgoya.com/intro.htm

Sacre Bleu! That's even weirder than  the Flash animation!

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Subject: (exotica) Petty Booka?
Date: 03 Sep 2001 13:55:12 -0400


Has anyone actually heard these ladies?

http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/e-pb.html



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Good/Bad  Sells/Doesn't Sell
Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:15:40 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

> And I think that your generalisation is way off the mark anyway.  Theres
> popular music and serious music.

What purpose is ôserious musicö being made for? Just curious.

KK


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Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism
Date: 03 Sep 2001 16:12:58 -0400


At 03:04 PM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote:
>
.>But I do think it's very easy to use race or profession to conceptualise a
>group of people who have priced records out of your range and who, in fact,
>you might be feeling envious of. Japanese/DJs/Japanese DJs rather than a
>worldwide interest that, by the rules of supply and demand, has caused the
>price of said records to rise.

The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any
generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently
racist.  That's a very low bar to set.
It's a long weekend.  There are a lot of American tourists milling about in
my fair city.  I'm not about to make generalizations about Americans but I
feel justified making certain generalizations about American tourists.
If that's racism then send me to the summit they're having and I'll join
"Zionism" in the list of Z's that are inherently racist.
You tell me what I should conclude from this single experience:
I go into this small record shop that, as far as I know, mostly caters to
DJ's here.
I look at the wall and see the records going for 100-200 dollars.  I
recognize the odd name but I see other records by the same artist in the
bins for twenty dollars.
Personally I don't distinguish between the cheaper and more expensive
records (so I'm not jealous of the ones that buy the expensive records.)  I
ask the owner, who's both a DJ and Japanese, what's the story with the high
priced items.  He tells me that he can get that price from Japanese
collectors.  He says on occasion he gets that price from a DJ - either
local or not - because those records all have at least one "wicked" cut
that DJ's like to play.  That's why they're so much more expensive than
similar records.  But, he tells me, most of his customers for those
expensive records are countrymen of his.  He sells them by mail and also
goes to Japan twice a year to sell there.  I ask him, in fact, whether he
sells to people from other countries.  He tells me "occasionally" but
precedes to inform me that Japan is where these records are most highly
sought.  Furthermore he tells me that Japanese are sort of "used to" paying
high prices for American - or any non-Japanese - records because the only
way they can get records like this is to order them from America or
actually go to America themselves.
He tells me that Japanese record collectors don't really have much
experience with scouring the local shops and finding some early Blue Note
record for the equivalent of ten or twenty dollars.  So they basically just
think of the records they want as costing A LOT.
And that makes sense to me because, for instance, I know people who collect
things - like movie posters - that never come cheap.  So I can understand
how that can set up an expectation and an acceptance of a certain price
threshold.
I ask this record store owner "What about Germany?  I know there are lots
of jazz collectors in Germany".  And he says "That may be.  But the records
I deal with, it's mostly DJ's and Japanese that are interested in them".

I walk away and I think to myself "If I accept what he said, some people
will call me a racist".
Then I think "Fuck it".

I agree that if I were to stand up on my soapbox and say "Record collectors
of the world unite!  Let's cast off the oppression of DJ's and Japanese!
We must take back the LP!  Kill a Jap for vinyl!"... then that would border
on racism.
But I was just reporting a bit of anecdotal information.

It's no different from saying that geeks collect Beatle records.

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From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Petty Booka?
Date: 03 Sep 2001 13:35:46 -0700


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of M.Ace
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:55 AM

> Has anyone actually heard these ladies?
>
> http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/e-pb.html

Petty Booka is/are quite good -- the playing itself isn't as interesting as
the prospect of the combinations (Culture Club done Hawaiian-style, or
Madonna done country), but it's still pretty goofy. Alas, I haven't been
able to find their albums in the usual North American outlets (jpophelp.com,
yesasia.com, my friendly neighborhood Kinokuniya, etc.). But in the glory
days of Napster, I was able to download their "Christmas Everywhere" ep as
well as a few assorted singles -- now if I could find the disc around here
somewhere...

Later,
Ben

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From: Jerry Nutter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) how to beat the high cost of living (stereo)
Date: 03 Sep 2001 09:31:23 -0400


Chuck Collazzi wrote: To blame the Japanese for rising vinyl prices is
ridiculous. Besides, if you're going to complain about vinyl prices, why
draw the line there?  What about real estate, autos, gasoline, food, etc?

Alan Zweig: The price of food operates under the same force as the price of
vinyl. Supply and demand. When a bunch of collectors or DJ's all want the
same record, the price goes up.  If a lot of the collectors come from the
same country, then they are collectively more responsible for the price
rise. What's ridiculous about that?

Jerry: I agree with Alan. I worked briefly in a "junk store" that sold used
vinyl and saw firsthand the Japanese kids plunking down absurd amounts of
daddy's cash for relatively "common" Lps. (This was before their economy
went splat.) This is great for the seller, but bad for the average buyer.
It also totally distorts the market values, and ultimately, turns off a lot
of potential record collectors who only know the CD and might be curious
about what they missed. As it is, the market for vinyl is dying out. For
me, faced with a choice between a brand-new $18 CD and a used $30 Lp, it's
a no-brainer! Or in the used shops, a choice between a $9 promo CD and a
$10 Lp... And I used to be steadfastly pro-vinyl!




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From: [e-mail] (Bump Stadelman)
Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism
Date: 03 Sep 2001 16:36:29 -0400



>The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any
>generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently
>racist.  That's a very low bar to set.


hear here!
people are just way too sensitive these days.
i mean stereotypes have to come from "somewhere" don't they?
reminds me of a saying i heard before,
if we cannot laugh at ourselves, we leave it up to others to do it for us.

a very ugly white american dj,
bump

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From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) scores this summer
Date: 03 Sep 2001 22:13:43 +0000


greetings

I spent a good portion of the summer in BC and below is a list of some of
the vinyl i rounded up there (if anyone is interested). In addition to
record searching at flea-markets, record stores and thrift shops I found
this guy who advertised in the paper and who had a whole warehouse full of
books, records and magazines. it was a nightmare searching through
everything but worth it for the various gems that popped up. he wasn't
always cheap though, he'd been selling for a while and had a good hunch as
to the worth of things. anyway, here's the summer score list from all the
places I visited:

1. "The Canaries". canary singing with the Artal orchestra. pretty weird and
moderately priced.

2. "Skins!" by Les Baxter. I like this one.

3. "Groovin' In The Sunshine" by the 3 Ring Circus. Alan zweig recommended
this one a while back when it was on eBay. It sounds a little like the
Barbarella soundtrack on one side, but the other side has mediocore vocal
tracks. Horrifying clown-kaleidoscope 60's sleeve. i found it in the
warehouse for $15.00 Cool record! thanks alan.

4. "The Family Way" OST. so-so. Paul Mcartney did the music.

5. "Music Machine" by Johnny Almond. 60's jazz sort of thing. ok.

6. "Les Galets D'etrat" OST by George Gavarentz. late 60's? Has a couple of
good tracks, nothing spectacular though. but only $5.00

7. "Release of An Oath" David Axelrod and the Electric Prunes. This copy is
a reissue from the 1980's, but I see it's been reissued this year. I liked
it a bit. I'll have to try harder with it.

8. "Roy Rogers Tells Songs about Pecos Bill" with The Sons of the Pioneers.
good thrift score in reasonable condition.

9. "Medium" by the Mandrake Memorial. a bit scratched but I'm not missing
much.

10. "The Sidehackers" OST. I got this on-line. has some Jerry Styner instros
and some psych tracks by the New Life. A pretty cool OST, especially the
"Psychedelic Rape" track.

11. "Inuit Throat and Harp Songs". field recordings of inuit throat singing
from the early 70's. beats Radiohead any day. a Great record! but a little
pricey (i traded for it).

12. "Love At First Sight" by Sounds Nice. Anyone out there heard this? it's
on Rare Earth records, and shows a bunch of pictures of a 60's chick against
a yellow backdrop on the cover. Has a GREAT sound-gallery funky 60's vibe to
it. I totally recommend this record. I had to trade for it from a record
dealer I know. I could swear I've passed it up at past thrifts since the
cover makes it look like some EZ listening cover album of McArthur Park and
the like.

13. "Lorne Greene's American west" garage sale score. a cleaner copy than my
old one.

14. "Contact High With The Godz" original east coast psych-noise on ESP
records. in VG so only $5.00 but it plays well. I'm happy.

15. "around The World" Santo and Johnny

16. "Secret Agent File" by Billy Strange

17. "Cine-Moog". so-so moog album but only $1.99.

18. "Brass Menagerie 1973" by Enoch Light. Has a FANTASTIC version of
'Season of the Witch'. again, only $1.99.

19. "Hi Fi Cuban Drums" has an amazing sleeve showing an exotica chick
playing the bongos. a couple of tracks are good too. I found it in a used
book store up the coast for a buck.

20. "Al Green Gets Next To You" by Al Green. A bit scratched but only 25
cents.

21. "Mellow-dreamin' by Young-Holt Ltd. early 70's jazz thing.

22. "scenes and Themes" by Hugo Montenegro. has that awful arp synth stuff.

23. "The Big Ball" A&M records comp. Has Zappa on it, and Wild Man Fischer,
whom I've always wanted to hear. (I really, really want to find the Wild Man
Fischer lp - anyone out there have a burn of it who's up for a trade?). The
wild Man track is all I wanted from this double record. Unbelievably, I
found it in the 25 cent bin of a record store.

24. "Near East Brass" by Jerry Fielding and orchestra. The east is so near
on this one that it sounds too much like the west. i wanted far east, far
out east, but this one's wayyy too close to home. i'm bored just mentioning
it.

25. a kiddie "alice in wonderland" lp

26. "open Letter" by Victor Lundberg. patriotic, conservative 60's thing by
the right-wing asshole mr. Lunberg. has this awful letter read to his son
where he states that if he does not go off to war he's "no son of mine".

27. "make Your Parrot a Star" parrot training record with recorded repeats
of lines from films.

28. "train Your Parrot To Talk" repeated parrot greetings.

29. a lefty frizell record, a roy acuff lp, a "tenessee guitar' instro lp,
and an amazing 50's lp by Stu Philips (the country singer, not the film
composer) called 'echoes of the canadian foothills' - all the songs are
death and tragedy narratives with some of them through a slightly spooked
echo effect. gotta be one of my all time favorite western records.

30. "African sanctus" by david Fanshawe. I read in Mojo that this is a hot
item for samplers. I'm not big on it so far.

31. "Look Inside" by The Asylum Choir. a psych thing with a young Leon
russell. i'm selling it.

32. "And This Shall Pass" by Warm Dust. rare psych-prog thing from early
70's. it's going on eBay.

hope this didn't bore the reader. not all of the above were cheap, but the
most was for the sidehackers OST @ $35.00 US for a sealed copy. a lot were
around $10 canadian.

good luck record hunting
jb



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Subject: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu
Date: 03 Sep 2001 18:53:32 EDT


With all due respect, didn't we already beat this particular "Japanese
collector/racism" thread into the ground a few months ago?
-DavidH


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From: Clayton Black <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend
Date: 03 Sep 2001 19:28:53 -0500


James, I enjoyed reading your list, and it looks like you had a good summer.
I have been planning to send in my list of recent scores (Labor Day weekend)
as well.  I spent a total of about US$ 20 on all of these:

1.  Sauter & Finegan Orchestra, INSIDE SAUTER-FINEGAN.  I had a copy of this
already, but the vinyl on this one was better.  I couldn't have too many
copies of this cover anyway.
2.  Sammy Davis Jr.  I GOTTA RIGHT TO SWING (sp.?)  I've only listened to
one side of this so far.  It doesn't swing as much as I'd like, but I love a
good Sammy tune.
3.  Tony Mottola, HEART & SOUL GUITAR, Project 3.  Mellow, but nice.  Dick
Hyman has some good backup moments on this one.
4.  Tony Mottola, LUSH, LATIN & LOVELY, Project 3.  I had a copy of this
already, but this one was cleaner.  Good bossa nova (although not coveted by
the Japanese apparently)--nice version of A Man and a Woman.
5.  The First Percussion Sextet, THE FABULOUS SOUND OF . . ., Good, but not
exciting.  It's interesting to note the connection with West Virginia
University, in Morgantown, where the auditorium was evidently built with
near perfect accoustics.  I recently bought the WVU percussion ensemble
album PROTEST IN PERCUSSION (what "P" words were left by that point?), which
was also no great shakes, but made a big deal about the auditorium.  Anybody
know more about the history of the WVU-Percussion connection?
6.  The Ames Brothers SING THE BANDS--got this one because I LOVE
Destination Moon.  This is mostly big band stuff, but they're voices are
still fantastic.
7.  Sammy Kaye, SWING AND SWAY AU GO-GO.  Okay, I got this one on Alan's
recommendation, and I DO like it, especially the organ accompaniment.  I'm
still not a fan of the cascading saxophone sound (maybe my view of
saxophones is like his view of trombones?), but this IS a good album.  So
this is Now Sound?  (sorry, couldn't help it).
8.  Jimmy Smith, THE SERMON--Jimmy Smith, what can you say?  Incredible.
The album's in crappy shape, but it doesn't skip, and I just couldn't let it
pass for just a buck.
9.  Jimmy Smith, THE BOSS.  Ditto.
10.  Art Blakey, the Jazz Messengers, and Sabu, CU-BOP.  I haven't given
this a thorough listen through.  It's more "high" jazz than exotica, but
when you see an album like this in Goodwill you don't flip past it.
11.  Gary McFarland, SOFT SAMBA STRINGS--Soft Samba is still one of my
favorites, and this is a VERY nice complement to that.
12.  Gary McFarland, THE IN SOUND--I had a mono copy of this that I bought
off of e-bay (supposedly near mint but not), but this one's stereo and in a
condition that's just as good.  Couldn't let it pass.
13.  Billy May, SORTA BILLY MAY (? I think that's the title anyway?)  Good,
but not exceptional, quirky Billy May arrangements.
14.  Henry Mancini, SYMPHONIC SOUL.  No real "authentic" soul (whatever that
might be), but I haven't had time to let this one sink in.  It's very 70s
sounding, but in the sense that it belongs with 70s cop shows.  This was the
first time I'd ever seen this album (or even heard about it).

Others--Ted Heath, NEW PALLADIUM PERFORMANCES; Walt Disney, THE ARISTOCATS;
UA Artists, Various Movie Songs; Donald Byrd & ? Gigi (Eponymous, I
believe).

I got all of these in northern Delaware at a flea market and a Goodwill.
The Goodwill actually had three Les Baxter albums (African Jazz, Ports of
Pleasure, and Wild Guitars) that I was more than psyched to buy, but they
all looked as though they had been played on a lawn mower.  I have the first
two of those anyway, thankfully.  Weekends like that don't come around
often, and it looks as though I'll have to find more room for my records.
I actually wrote a long comment on the racism question, but decided against
it.  Everyone else has made the necessary points.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Jane Greer, Philippe Leotard,Frank Emilio Flynn
Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:07:04 -0400


Just back from vacation - catching up on email, digests, etc. -- Lou

Actress Jane Greer Dies at 76

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Actress Jane Greer, a film noir star and former wife of
bandleader Rudy Vallee, has died.  She was 76.

Greer, who as an icy brunette bested both Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas in
1947's noir classic "Out of the Past,'' died Friday of complications from
cancer, said her son, Alex Lasker.

The native of Washington, D.C. and former beauty contestant and model caught
the eye of Hollywood after appearing in Life magazine.  She later signed with
RKO, after studio head Howard Hughes became smitten with her.

While still a teen-ager, she married crooner Vallee in 1943.  The two divorced
in 1945.  She then married attorney and producer Edward Lasker in 1947, earning
the spite of Hughes who then sought to stymie her career.  They later divorced.


Greer was best known for her role as the seductive Kathie Moffat in "Out of the
Past,'' which cemented her reputation as a noir vixen.

"She was a bad girl you could fall in love with -- who could take on Robert
Mitchum and really make him melt,'' Lasker said.

Bettejane Greer and her twin brother, Don, were born Sept. 9, 1924, and grew up
in Florida.

Greer later said she was set on becoming an actress at 15, after awaking one
morning to find the left side of her face was paralyzed.  Months of facial
exercises eventually cured her.

"I'd always wanted to be an actress, and suddenly I knew that learning to
control my facial muscles was one of the best assets I could have as a
performer. Emotions often must be portrayed from an inner feeling, of course,
but I had a double advantage because I was learning to direct my as-yet
expressionless feelings, as well as gaining an ability to express emotion by a
very conscious manipulation of my muscles,'' Greer once told an interviewer.

Throughout the 1940s and '50s, she worked consistently, appearing in "Dick
Tracy, Detective,'' "The Prisoner of Zenda,'' and "Man of a Thousand Faces.''

Her career slowed by the mid 1950s, although she continued to act.

In 1984, Greer appeared in "Against All Odds,'' a remake of "Out of the Past''
starring Jeff Bridges.  In it, she played the mother of her original character.
 She later acted in David Lynch's TV series "Twin Peaks.''

Her on-screen character was not matched by her countenance in person, said
daughter-in-law Anne Wile-Lasker.

"She was just gracious and sweet. She had this image on film that she wasn't in
life,'' Wile-Lasker said.

Greer is survived by her twin brother; sons Alex, Lawrence and Steve; and two
grandchildren.  Her common-law husband, acting coach Frank London, died in
January.

A private memorial service will be held Sept. 9 on what would have been Greer's
77th birthday.

AP-NY / 08-26-01 20:24 EDT
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August 27, 2001   --  L.A. Times

Philippe Leotard; French Actor on TV and in Movies

Philippe Leotard, 60, French actor who worked with noted directors Francois
Truffaut and Claude LeLouch and won a Cesar, his country's equivalent of the
Oscar, died Saturday in a Paris clinic.

Born in the Riviera resort city of Nice in 1940, Leotard had a television
and movie career that spanned three decades and included more than 70 films,
the first being a made-for-TV movie, "Crime and Punishment," in 1966.

The actor won his Cesar for his role in the 1983 film, "The Balance." In
addition to Truffaut and LeLouch, Leotard worked with Fred Zinnemann in "Day
of the Jackal" and John Frankenheimer in "French Connection II." Leotard
spent years battling drug and alcohol addiction, which he detailed in a 1997
book. He was the elder brother of French diplomat Francois Leotard, who
serves as the European Union emissary to Macedonia.
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August 27, 2001   --  L.A. Times

OBITUARIES
Frank Emilio Flynn; Pioneer of Cuban Jazz

By AGUSTIN GURZA, TIMES STAFF WRITER

Frank Emilio Flynn, the blind Cuban pianist whose career spanned seven
decades and bridged musical styles as disparate as the courtly contredanse
and the improvisational descarga, has died. He was 80.

The frail but still active musician was at his piano when he had a heart
attack Thursday night and died at his home in Havana, said his cousin Kathy
Flynn of West Los Angeles. Granma, Cuba's official newspaper, reported that
Flynn was buried Friday at the Colon cemetery in Havana, the city of his
birth.

The legendary pianist and composer had lived in Los Angeles for several
months earlier this year after his cousin reunited the American and Cuban
sides of the Flynn family. The visit featured some of his final public
performances, including a guest appearance June 3 with the Latin Jazz
Ensemble of Cal State L.A., where he taught a spring series of classes as
artist in residence. During his stay, local fans flocked to greet the
diminutive musician, who was influenced by or worked with several seminal
figures of Afro-Cuban music, such as danzon master Antonio Maria Romeu and
percussionist Tata Guines, a founding member of Flynn's respected 1950s
quintet, Los Amigos.

"We created a whole new family here," said Kathy Flynn, whose great-uncle,
Francis Joseph Flynn, was the late musician's father. "He was just such a
beautiful person. He continued to care about people, despite all that he had
to go through."

Francisco Emilio Flynn Rodriguez was born in 1921, his eyesight damaged by
forceps during delivery. His mother died before his fifth birthday and his
father returned to the United States months later, leaving the boy in the
care of his Cuban aunt and uncle.

At 13, Flynn won an amateur contest and started his career as part of a
danzon orchestra, featuring the graceful ballroom music that preceded the
mambo and cha-cha. But tragedy struck again in his late teens when a
tuberculosis epidemic claimed the lives of his surrogate parents. By then,
Flynn had gone totally blind.

At the Forefront of a Musical Movement

He continued his studies at a school operated by Cuba's National Assn. for
the Blind, of which he would later serve as president from 1978-81. In the
mid-1940s, Flynn resumed his popular music career with his band Loquibambia,
featuring Omara Portuondo of Buena Vista Social Club fame. That placed Flynn
at the forefront of a movement called filin, which fused the traditional
Cuban bolero with U.S. jazz sensibilities.

But times were hard and Flynn made ends meet by selling cigars to shops on
consignment, walking the streets of Havana without a cane. In the 1950s, he
became a charter member of the Club Cubano de Jazz, a group of enthusiasts
who played descargas, or jam sessions, for free and raised money to sponsor
visits by jazz colleagues from the U.S.

By the end of the decade, Flynn led the seminal Quinteto Instrumental de
Musica Moderna, devoted to exploring Latin jazz. At the same time, he
pursued the study of classical music, which remained his true artistic
ambition. He cherished his recordings by Cuba's semiclassical composers
Ignacio Cervantes and Ernesto Lecuona, author of "Malaguena" and "Siboney."

Until his death, Flynn was thankful to his friend and fellow musician
Armando Romeu Gonzalez, who learned Braille to help him make the first
transcriptions of Lecuona's compositions. Flynn was also proud of having
developed a technique for teaching the blind to write music, countering
their natural tendency to learn by ear.

"If they want to be musicians," he told The Times in April, "they have to be
the real thing."

In February 1998, two years before his family reunion, Flynn made his U.S.
debut in New York at a climactic concert, part of the Jazz at Lincoln Center
program. Latin giants such as the late Tito Puente turned out to watch an
all-star reincarnation of Los Amigos, featuring bassist Orlando "Cachaito"
Lopez; percussionist Jose "Changuito" Quintana, formerly of Los Van Van; and
Guines, the group's original conguero.

"Frank Emilio is a pianist who has influenced every subsequent generation,
and those to come, because he's kept up to date," Cuban pianist Chucho
Valdes, who made a guest appearance at the concert, said at the time. "You
can't talk about Frank Emilio in the past because he's still very much
present."

Flynn leaves his wife of 47 years, Martha Montes Cobian; his son, Jesus; and
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Subject: (exotica) [obits] Don Ricardo, Graeme "Shirley" Strachan, Ted Mulry
Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:10:03 -0400


August 27, 2001   --  L.A. Times

OBITUARIES
Don Ricardo; Big Band Leader, Antique Car Buff

By MYRNA OLIVER, TIMES STAFF WRITER

He loved music and he loved cars. He used one to get the other.

Don Ricardo, leader of big bands including the NBC Orchestra in the 1930s
and an award-winning collector, restorer and racer of antique automobiles,
has died. He was 92.

Ricardo died Aug. 15 in a Pasadena convalescent home, where he had lived for
more than a year, said family friend Jim Riddick of Martinez, Calif. Even in
his late 80s, Ricardo and his stable of vintage Mercedes-Benzes and other
treasures were familiar sights at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance and
at shows in such venues as Pasadena's Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Fullerton's
Muckenthaler Cultural Center.

He frequently staged his own shows for charity at the Pasadena estate he
liked to call "a 14-car garage with a house attached."

And in his younger days--until at least age 60--Ricardo was seen behind the
wheel of his impeccably detailed cars, which he kept running with the
precision of a Swiss watch, at such races as Bonneville and the Pomona
Winternationals, setting several records for touring cars.

Ricardo played drums and the violin from age 7 and started his first band in
1927. Don Ricardo and the Californians, with their Latin rhythms and big
band dance tunes, found steady work at Los Angeles' Biltmore Hotel and in
Lake Tahoe showrooms.

With the band's growing reputation, NBC Radio soon came calling and in 1937
put it on the air as the NBC Orchestra. Ricardo continued providing music
for the network's radio shows for a dozen years.

Ricardo worked in his teens as a printer's apprentice. Even then, every
spare cent went into building a machine shop, at that time for customizing
Model Ts.

Ricardo took on a somewhat different engineering project during World War
II. Signing on to use his automotive machinist skills as a tool-and-die
maker, he was assigned to a special project at Caltech. He headed a team of
50 workmen developing parts for a new "anti-personnel bomb" and did not
learn until war's end that he had been working on the Manhattan Project to
build the atom bomb.

Returning full time to making music after the war, Ricardo increased his
fortunes and elevated his taste in the rare autos he was able to collect,
priding himself on Mercedes-Benzes and gull-wings of any make.

Over the years, his treasures--once valued at $20 million--included a 1911
Benz Victoria Touring Car, a 1923 Targa Florio 28/95, a 1927 K model sports
roadster built originally for Rudolph Valentino, a 1928 Mercedes-Benz
supercharged SSK, two 1955 Mercedes-Benz 300SL gull-wings, a 1938 Horch
convertible coupe, a Lynx D-type replica, and DeLorean and Bricklin
gull-wings.

In 1960, Ricardo attracted headlines by purchasing the 1935 Mercedes-Benz
roadster custom-built for Nazi Gestapo chief Heinrich Himmler. Ricardo got
the 3-ton car from a U.S. Army major who had bought it in 1957 from
Himmler's estate.

Hidden by Himmler's family in a basement after World War II, the
one-of-a-kind car was in good condition, Ricardo said, with one important
change: The holes drilled in the rear seats for machine-gun mounts had been
filled.

"The car was used mostly for show by Himmler," Ricardo told The Times. "It's
a rather odd feeling to be driving the car that carried Himmler and other
Nazi bosses in parades and other ceremonies."

Ricardo had no illusions about the economy of his collector's items, noting
of the Himmler car: "I get 10 miles to the gallon if I'm careful."

Even without its treasures, Ricardo's garage would be the envy of car buffs.
Ed Hellwig wrote in a column for the automotive Web site edmunds.com a
decade ago that it was "the mother of garages, an inspiration to men
throughout the nation . . . a place to pay homage to the automobile."

Hand tools and memorabilia, including posters from long-ago races and car
shows, were mounted on the finished walls. Workbenches lined the perimeter
of the garage, and hose reels ready to dispense air and water were suspended
from the ceiling.

Within its confines, the dream garage also contained a complete machine shop
where Ricardo could make from aluminum stock any illusive parts he was
unable to buy.

"I've loved cars all my life," the then-octogenarian told Hellwig, "and
what's in this garage is my life. Sometimes, when I can't sleep at night,
I'll come down here and sit in the gull-wing and relive the memories all
over again."
-------------------

Police have confirmed the former lead singer of seventies pop group,
Skyhooks, has died in a helicopter crash north-west of Brisbane.

Channel Nine presenter Graeme "Shirley" Strachan was killed this afternoon,
when the helicopter he was flying crashed during a training flight, on Mount
Archer, near Kilcoy.

Redcliffe Police Sergeant Frank Sparreboom says the 49-year-old entertainer
was reported missing by his training school.

Police say Mr Strachan's body will not be retrieved until tomorrow morning
because of the remoteness of the crash site.
----------
Aussie music icon loses battle with cancer

Another legend of the Australian 1970s music industry, Ted Mulry, has
died after a battle with cancer.

He was the frontman for the Ted Mulry Gang but was also a respected
songwriter, penning hits for John Farnham, John Paul Young, Sherbet
and Roxy Music.

The Ted Mulry Gang was best known for the number one hit "Jump In My
Car".

Music Commentator and friend Glen A Baker was a compere at the Ted
Mulry Benefit concerts earlier this year.

"One of the things I feel really good about now is that he had a
chance to see them while he was still with us," he said.

"Just what people thought of him, the regard in which he was held by
his peers and that was a very considerable regard indeed."

Ted Mulry would have turned 53 tomorrow.

His death follows that of Graeme "Shirley" Strachan, the former lead
singer of The Skyhooks.


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Subject: (exotica) [obits] John Chambers, Troy Donahue, Pauline Kael
Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:13:06 -0400


        LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Oscar-winning makeup pioneer John Chambers, who did
everything from put the pointy ears on ``Star Trek's'' Mr. Spock to turn actors
into simians for the original ``Planet of the Apes,'' has died of diabetes
complications. He was 78.
        Chambers died Aug. 25 at the Motion Picture and Television Fund
retirement home in Woodland Hills.
        During his 30-year career, Chambers worked on numerous movies and
television shows, including TV's ``The Outer Limits,'' ``The Munsters,'' ``Lost
in Space'' and ``Mission Impossible.'' His film credits included ``The List of
Adrian Messenger'' and ``The Island of Dr. Moreau.''
        Most of the time he worked out of a lab in his Burbank garage, and it
wasn't unusual for his neighbors to see stars like Leonard Nimoy, Lana Turner,
Marlon Brando and Mickey Rooney drop in for special makeup sessions.
        When he worked on ``Planet of the Apes'' in the 1960s, Chambers recalled
in a recent interview how he spent hours at the Los Angeles Zoo doing research.
        ``It was the best way I could think of for capturing the elastic facial
expressions of the apes,'' he said.
        His preparation led him to develop a new type of foam rubber that was
easier to work with than the material commonly used at the time. He also created
facial appliances that could be attached to actors' faces to form primate
features.
        For his efforts he became only the second makeup artist to receive an
honorary Academy Award. A competitive category for makeup was established in the
1980s.
        Chambers also developed a new technique for making ``bald caps'' for
actors. His invention, made from liquid plastic sprayed onto a metal form of an
actor's head, remains the industry standard.
        He is survived by his wife, Joan.
-------------
Sunday, September 2  1:45 PM ET

Actor Troy Donahue Dies at 65

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Actor Troy Donahue, a blonde-haired, blue-eyed teen movie
heartthrob of the 1950s and '60s, died Sunday. He was 65.

Donahue died at St. John's Hospital and Medical Center in Santa Monica after
suffering a heart attack on Thursday, said family friend Bob Palmer.

The actor played Sandra Dee's young lover in 1959's ``A Summer Place'' a
role that made him a teen matinee star.
------
MSNBC reports the death of the esteemed film critic, Pauline Kael.
---------
CAMBRIDGE, Ohio (AP)_ A man was sentenced to listen to four hours of polka
king Frankie Yankovic's greatest hits for driving through the city with
his windows rolled down and his truck's stereo blaring.

Municipal Judge John Nicholson found Alan Law guilty of disorderly conduct
and ordered him to pay a $100 fine or listen to polka tunes.

Law chose to face the music.

Nicholson picked Yankovic's music because he thought the 19-year-old Law
would not be a fan of the Cleveland polka legend, who died in 1998.

Law listened to the full four hours of Yankovic's hits, which included
Blue Skirt Waltz, Who Stole the Kishka and Too Fat Polka, in a police
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu
Date: 03 Sep 2001 21:36:01 -0400


At 06:53 PM 9/3/01 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>With all due respect, didn't we already beat this particular "Japanese
>collector/racism" thread into the ground a few months ago?

Sorry but when a list is this slow,  I feel like a well-beaten thread, even
a dead one, is better than nothing.
And in the future, there's no need to give respect, whether due or not.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend
Date: 03 Sep 2001 21:40:44 -0400


At 07:28 PM 9/3/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote:
>
>12.  Gary McFarland, THE IN SOUND--I had a mono copy of this that I bought
>off of e-bay (supposedly near mint but not), but this one's stereo and in a
>condition that's just as good.  Couldn't let it pass.

I'm drooling over this one.  Tell me about it please.  I knew he must have
other records besides the ones I have but damn, "the in sound"!!!!  Is it
really the IN Sound?  What's it sound like?  Does it have that ba-ba-ba
singing like he does on "She loves you"?  I must know.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound
Date: 03 Sep 2001 22:02:29 -0400


At 01:56 AM 09/02/2001, Roy wrote:
>The acid test I use for a song being Now Sound, is if
>you close your eyes while your listening to it and you
>think you might be listening to sound-track music from
>the television show Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In then your
>listening to The Now Sound.

Yes, that's exactly how I see it. Would it fit in the Laugh-In party
segment? If yes, it's Now Sound.


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Subject: (exotica) FRIENDLY PERSUASION - Week of 09/03/01
Date: 03 Sep 2001 20:00:47 -0700



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Mae West - Criswell Predicts
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March Into 1985 Demo LP - Obsession
600 Second Miracle Promo Record Excerpt
DJ Pantshead of The ECC - Untitled Scratchabilly
Pat and Darrell - Sleeper Cab Home
Peter Marks - C.B. Okie from Muskogee
Switched On Nashville - Folsom Prison Blues
Claro Music Corporation - Mister X Sings
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Rev. John Rydgren - Hippie Version Of Creation
The Weird Love Makers - Boy Scout In The Everglades
Richard Hayman - Hare Krishna
Mel Blanc - Money
Ken Nordine - Electro-Voice Series D Organ Demonstration Intro
The Three Suns - When Yuba Plays the Rhumba on the Tuba
Westinghouse - He Got No Westinghouse Franchise
The Billy Nayer Show - Fickey
Exploring Music Vol. 8 - Your Voice Is You
Rev. John Rydgren - Search It Out
DJ Pantshead of The ECC - Surfin' Bass
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From: "Brian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: The Now Sound
Date: 03 Sep 2001 22:25:43 -0400


Alan wrote:
> Anyway if I had to make a list of the best and most quintessential Now
> Sound, I'd start with those two Les and Larry records (though the first
> one is by far the better) and to that list I'd add the one I mentioned
before:
> Si Zentner's "Right here right now" and this one by John Keating - here
> identified as the Johnny Keating Sound - called "Here's where it is".
> If I had to round it off to a top five, I'd have to choose between "Billy
> May Today!" and Les Brown "The Young Beat!".
Well that makes 5 records I haven't heard, and since I haven't heard them, I
don't know if our definitions (or associations) are the same or indeed how
they overlap. Of course this forces me to pick out favourites myself which
isn't that easy. I'm realizing that a lot of the things I do like are no
more than instrumental versions of pop/rock songs so I'm not sure that these
would qualify. Alan mentions horns as an essential component and I'd
probably agree.. but organs can also do the job as can the right guitar
sound. Then there's what qualifies from the three powerhouse countries of
Italy, France and Germany?

I'm thinking this as I just found a record this week I've been wanting a
long time.  Well I haven't been looking for it so much as I knew there was a
Werner Muller record or records out there that had the two tracks I've heard
on more than one 5 star compilation (Sex machine & Bodybuilding).  Well it
exists and its called "The Strip Goes On". To me it's totally now sound,
with the requisite "versions" of known rock songs  (Satisfaction, The Beat
Goes On, etc).

Anyway, its too bad this discussion stopped so quick as I still feel a need
to discuss the subject further. I for one promise not to get into any verbal
nastiness with Alan!

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From: crymad <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) racism shmacism
Date: 04 Sep 2001 00:24:29 -0700




alan zweig wrote:
>
> At 03:04 PM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote:
> >
> .>But I do think it's very easy to use race or profession to conceptualise a
> >group of people who have priced records out of your range and who, in fact,
> >you might be feeling envious of. Japanese/DJs/Japanese DJs rather than a
> >worldwide interest that, by the rules of supply and demand, has caused the
> >price of said records to rise.
>
> The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any
> generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently
> racist.  That's a very low bar to set.

For what it's worth...my wife is native Japanese, I've lived in Japan
about 8 years, I think of Japan as my second home...and I have
absolutely no problem with your generalization.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend
Date: 04 Sep 2001 00:33:19 -0700




Clayton Black wrote:
>
>
> 3.  Tony Mottola, HEART & SOUL GUITAR, Project 3.  Mellow, but nice.  Dick
> Hyman has some good backup moments on this one.
> 4.  Tony Mottola, LUSH, LATIN & LOVELY, Project 3.  I had a copy of this
> already, but this one was cleaner.  Good bossa nova (although not coveted by
> the Japanese apparently)--nice version of A Man and a Woman.


These two on 8 track should be arriving in my mail this week.  Traded a
couple Indian film soundtrack carts for them.  Anyone else on this list
dabble in 8 track?  I feel the endless loop format is very well suited
for mood music.

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Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism
Date: 04 Sep 2001 09:50:56 +0100


> The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any
> generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently
> racist.  That's a very low bar to set.

You're missing the point. I'm not accusing you of being a racist per se,
just that in this case you are wrong. The price is not the fault of the
Japanese, it is the fault of all those who want Brazilian records and will
pay for them. It's just easy for you to blame a racial group (in this case).

Happy days.


Charlie

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad  Sells/Doesn't Sell
Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:02:26 +0100


I was responding to the term in Steves post.
As a comparison, I was reading an article on the motivation for writers who
write 'Literature' rather than mere authors.  It argued that writers of
literature are writing for their peers and for literary critics.  It seems
to have a grain of truth,  and I think it's a valid analogy.
The purpose of serious music is to impress your peers and gather good
reviews from serious critics.


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> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > And I think that your generalisation is way off the mark anyway.  Theres
> > popular music and serious music.
>
> What purpose is "serious music" being made for? Just curious.
>
> KK
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Subject: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds
Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:51:00 +0100


Went for my annual visit to Eastbourne yesterday,  which included a lovely 3
hour wait stuck in a country lane after being detoured from a nasty road
smash.
But I managed to get to the Charity shops and found:

Norrie Paramor - 'Law Beat' 1974.  Contour.
I would associate Norrie with the 50's and 60's due to his Cliff and the
Shadows connections,  so it was a bit of a surprise to see this.  But really
apart from the material and a little production gloss it could be from any
time.  Mostly strings and not much beat.  The material is what you would
expect from a 70's UK TV themes LP.  'Eye Level', 'Softly softly',
'Macmillan and Wife', 'Banacek' etc.  But there are some goodies,  It'd be
hard not to do 'Ironside' service, 'Hawaii 5-0' is pretty straight and
therefore pretty good.  And the version of Z-Cars is great.  No Harmonica.
Nice beat.  Nice brass.
Overall its not as good as an LP called Law Beat should be, but its worth
having for the last few tracks on side 2.

Johnny Keating with Orchestra and Singers - Temptation 1962 Decca Phase 4
PFS4020
I've thought of JK as a Studio 2 man rather than a Phase 4 man,  but there
you go.  To be honest I wasn't expecting that much from this,  It had a nice
red Phase 4 sleeve with a red headed girl on it,  but its great.  Big Band
Swinging Jazz,  Bongo's,  Theremin on 'Laura'.  I could do without the
singers,  but they have their moments.  The title track could almost be
classic Exotica,  it doesn't have the bird calls,  but it really has that
feel,  lush with upfront nicely reverbed bongo's and a slightly eastern feel
to the melody.  Probably the standout track for me.  Other tracks,  'Blues
in the night' was pretty good,  as was 'Maria' not the material I would have
expected to have heard done this way,  but sometimes it works sometimes it
didn't.  A very nice production,  very filmic.

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu
Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:27:31


I just want to know when did djs become a race? what are their ethnic
traits? a permanent Ibiza tan perhaps, allied to a cocaine addiction giving
them wrinkled wax like skin and a creepy interest in underage girls despite
looking like wizened old hags lurking round the record shops deliberately
paying over the odds with their filthy promoter/criminal underworld/18 yr
old kids out for a big night cash just to piss the rest of us off.
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Subject: (exotica) I'm not Bored of Canada
Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:51:49 +0000


<<There's a cut on a Boards of Canada CD
called "roygbiv".
Is that Roy G. Biv?>>

My musical output is limited and only shared with a
small circle.  I'm not to blame for this one.


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From: "Wayno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Petty Booka
Date: 04 Sep 2001 05:11:54 -0700



M. Ace asked:

Has anyone actually heard these ladies?

http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/e-pb.html

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P&B are goofy as hell, and incredibly endearing.

Mail order service from Sister/Benten is excellent.

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell
Date: 04 Sep 2001 12:19:51


>I was responding to the term in Steves post.
>As a comparison, I was reading an article on the motivation for writers who
>write 'Literature' rather than mere authors.  It argued that writers of
>literature are writing for their peers and for literary critics.  It seems

Or if you're Fay Weldon, as a vehicle for product placement for Bulgari.
Damn Brits destroying art again with their pesky advertising. Oh FW's a New
Zealander. And Bulgari are Italian. I knew it was those Yurps anyway with
their Eurofaggot hairstyles and stuckinthemud non gogetit lifestyles

>to have a grain of truth,  and I think it's a valid analogy.
>The purpose of serious music is to impress your peers and gather good
>reviews from serious critics.

Plus you get paid to write it! and can make lots of money selling very, very
few records while in popular music you can sell lots, and indeed, lots of
records and earn very, very, very little money.
Up with good music! Down with bad!
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Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm not Bored of Canada
Date: 04 Sep 2001 09:22:26 -0400


For those who haven't figured it out yet (this being one of the very few
things I learned in jr. high school science) "roygbiv" is the mnemonic used
to remember the colours of the spectrum
(red-orange-yellow-green-blue-indigo-violet)

cheryl


>
> <<There's a cut on a Boards of Canada CD
> called "roygbiv".
> Is that Roy G. Biv?>>




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From: Clayton Black <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds
Date: 04 Sep 2001 09:31:05 -0500



> Johnny Keating with Orchestra and Singers - Temptation 1962 Decca Phase 4
> PFS4020
> I've thought of JK as a Studio 2 man rather than a Phase 4 man,  but there
> you go.  To be honest I wasn't expecting that much from this,  It had a nice
> red Phase 4 sleeve with a red headed girl on it,  but its great.  Big Band
> Swinging Jazz,  Bongo's,  Theremin on 'Laura'.  I could do without the
> singers,  but they have their moments.  The title track could almost be
> classic Exotica,  it doesn't have the bird calls,  but it really has that
> feel,  lush with upfront nicely reverbed bongo's and a slightly eastern feel
> to the melody.  Probably the standout track for me.  Other tracks,  'Blues
> in the night' was pretty good,  as was 'Maria' not the material I would have
> expected to have heard done this way,  but sometimes it works sometimes it
> didn't.  A very nice production,  very filmic.

One of my favorite Phase 4 albums (though still not up to Hawaiian Swing or
Exotic Percussion).  I had forgotten about the theremin on "Laura," which is
a great tune anyway.  As for the singers, I rather like them, especially on
Love for Sale.  I've got about four of JK's Phase 4 albums (in fact I don't
have any other kind of his--I need to get to the UK I guess).  This is the
best in my opinion.
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds
Date: 04 Sep 2001 14:44:41 +0100


Clayton,

To be honest, I'd base a trip to the UK on more than a desire to track =
down
John Keating LP's. I've been disappointed by most of his that I've =
heard.
The first Space one on Studio 2 is OK,  but not spectacular,  and not =
worth
the =A315 pounds it usually goes for.  I've had a couple of others and =
they've
gone back to the charity shops on my next visit.
I did say that the singers had their moments,  isn't 'Love for sale' =
the
track where theres a singer with a part that sounds like a bass =
clarinet on
an early Command LP.

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> > Johnny Keating with Orchestra and Singers - Temptation 1962 Decca =
Phase
> 4
> > PFS4020
> > I've thought of JK as a Studio 2 man rather than a Phase 4 man,  =
but
> there
> > you go. =20
> One of my favorite Phase 4 albums (though still not up to Hawaiian =
Swing
> or
> Exotic Percussion).  I had forgotten about the theremin on "Laura," =
which
> is
> a great tune anyway.  As for the singers, I rather like them, =
especially
> on
> Love for Sale.  I've got about four of JK's Phase 4 albums (in fact I
> don't
> have any other kind of his--I need to get to the UK I guess).  This =
is the
> best in my opinion.
> Clayton
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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weird shockwaves and the tourettes synthesiser
Date: 04 Sep 2001 13:56:51


try the musical swearing at
http://www.gimpchimp.com/swf/turretaphone1.0a.swf

while you're at it get a musical version of the really scary steve ballmer
motivational movie...
http://homepage.mac.com/jcarusone/iMovieTheater2.html

or why not just go to www.b3ta.com where those videos come from?? the amount
of traffic a rather small number of (lets face it) indifferent flash
programmers generate is enormous. i love it.
the bunny obsession has nothing to do with the kid's song. it was simply a
response animation to a couple of others featuring bunnies.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend
Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:06:23 -0500



Alan,
 Because my computer's at my office and not home (where my records are),
there is a slight possibility that I've got the title off a bit, but I'm 99%
certain that that's it.  My only hesitation comes from hearing that you
 haven't heard of it (as in, "can it be?  Have I got the name wrong?").  I
assumed this was a staple of your collection.
 This is the album with his (somewhat?) famous EZ version of (I can't get
 no) Satisfaction, which is full of his ba-ba-ba singing.  I'm not sure I'd
say this album is as good as Soft Samba, but it does have plenty of that
trademark sound and is loads better than Scorpio and Other Signs (although
"Beware-Take Care" is one of my favorites).  Bloop, Bleep sounds a lot
better in stereo than mono, and his take on I Concentrate on You is a
classic.  There are a couple of his own compositions that, to my mind, are
the best things on the album, but I can't remember what they're called
(sorry).   I don't have the equipment to burn CDs, but I'll be happy to make
you a tape, inadequate as that may be.
As to whether it's "In Sound," I don't want to speculate.  To me, Gary
McFarland's always "In," and this album is very much His sound.
Clayton


>>12.  Gary McFarland, THE IN SOUND

> I'm drooling over this one.  Tell me about it please.  I knew he must have
> other records besides the ones I have but damn, "the in sound"!!!!  Is it
>really the IN Sound?  What's it sound like?  Does it have that ba-ba-ba
>singing like he does on "She loves you"?  I must know.



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Subject: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight)
Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:26:29 +0100


* Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
>Thanks for the pun and the info.  Don't know
>no Kahime Karie. Am I missing out?

Um ... yeah ... Kahimi rocks! ;-)  Check out her "S/T"
comp on Minty Fresh for an intro.  Tracks produced by
Katerine & Momus.  Jorge Ben & Gainsbourg covers.
If you like that, buy all her Japanese albums! ;-)


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Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight)
Date: 04 Sep 2001 15:41:33 +0100


You can tell how many listers have gone over to Spectropop can't you, I'm
sure Jill Mingo-go or someone would have picked right up on this a couple of
years back.  Or are we just as faddy as those pop people.

Check out the archives for big J-Pop discussions,  (Rob, wheres my tape, I
have an email a year old telling me you'd done it!), Kahimi Karie,
Cornelius, Fantastic Plastic Machine,  Pizzicato 5, Takako Minekawa are some
of the more obvious names.  But a whole creative thing going on over there.

At least that means that they've been putting those expensive LP's to good
use.

The Scamps.

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> >Thanks for the pun and the info.  Don't know
> >no Kahime Karie. Am I missing out?
>
> Um ... yeah ... Kahimi rocks! ;-)  Check out her "S/T"
> comp on Minty Fresh for an intro.  Tracks produced by
> Katerine & Momus.  Jorge Ben & Gainsbourg covers.
> If you like that, buy all her Japanese albums! ;-)
>
>
> -Patrick
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds
Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:54:15 -0500



> To be honest, I'd base a trip to the UK on more than a desire to track down
> John Keating LP's. I've been disappointed by most of his that I've heard.

Okay.  I hope I can still get my ticket refunded.  My first exposure to
Johnny Keating was on the Loungcore compilation "The Easy Project," which
has some nice, swinging soundtrack-type songs.  I forget which were his, but
I had assumed that JK was a hip arranger & conducter.  The "Temptation"
album didn't dissuade me from that, although the subsequent Phase 4
purchases were fairly disappointing.  How would you compare him with Laurie
Johnson, who is also featured on the Easy Project CD?  I have one LP of his
that I think is fantastic--best version of Bali H'ai I have (except, maybe,
for Werner Muller's).
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Date: 04 Sep 2001 16:35:41 +0100


I don't feel familiar enough with Laurie Johnson to say.  What I've heard
has been great,  but I haven't heard that much.  If the only John Keating
stuff I'd heard was Temptation I'd say he was the man.

 The man for this would have been Peter Hipwell,  but unless he's lurking he
moved on a while back.  There are a couple of John Keating tracks on the 'In
Flight' compilation from the space LP and they are Moog-tastic,  but thats
not my experience of his stuff.  They're probably the best cuts from the LP
too,  although I'm partial to the Start Trek theme.
Laurie Johnson played at the Albert Hall a couple of years ago and I
remember it being well reviewed.
So not much help I'm afraid,  as with all these people I suppose, as has
been said before, they were working composers and band leaders who did what
was neccessary to keep the work coming in.  So lush background strings one
LP,  Moog covers of Rolling Stones songs the next.

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> My first exposure to
> Johnny Keating was on the Loungcore compilation "The Easy Project," which
> has some nice, swinging soundtrack-type songs.  I forget which were his,
> but
> I had assumed that JK was a hip arranger & conducter.  The "Temptation"
> album didn't dissuade me from that, although the subsequent Phase 4
> purchases were fairly disappointing.  How would you compare him with
> Laurie
> Johnson, who is also featured on the Easy Project CD?  I have one LP of
> his
> that I think is fantastic--best version of Bali H'ai I have (except,
> maybe,
> for Werner Muller's).
> Clayton


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Subject: (exotica) Gary McFarland and the Now Sound
Date: 04 Sep 2001 14:44:24 -0400


At 10:06 AM 9/4/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote:
>
>
>Alan,
> Because my computer's at my office and not home (where my records are),
>there is a slight possibility that I've got the title off a bit, but I'm 99%
>certain that that's it.  My only hesitation comes from hearing that you
> haven't heard of it (as in, "can it be?  Have I got the name wrong?").  I
>assumed this was a staple of your collection.

My entire view of the universe is based on the records I own - or have
owned.  I  have no idea about all the records I've never owned or never
seen. These kinds of records have been my focus for a few years now and I
suppose I sound like I'm being "authoritative" when I talk about them.  But
that's not because I think I know everything about them.  Or everything
that's out there somewhere.
I've owned four Gary McFarland records.  Soft Samba, Soft Samba with
Strings, Does the sun always shine on the moon and that one where he sings
these horrible funny duets with Gabor Szabo.
I accidentally bought this one called "Sympathetic Vibrations" on ebay and
it turned out to be a reissue of Soft Samba.  But it was a way better copy
so I kept it.  I always have trouble finding these McFarland records in
playable shape.
I've never found a good copy of "Does the sun..".  Maybe "In Sound" is a
reissue of that one.  I think he does "God only knows" on it.
I've gotten rid of almost everything that isn't in pretty good shape so I
can't actually go and retrieve the information anymore.
Anyway if you were inferring that I'm the big expert on all this stuff, I'm
not.  I may be the resident pundit but like I said, somewhere out there I'm
sure there are a thousand records that would blow my assumptions to shreds.
(However that doesn't stop me from having them.)

And for those interested in keeping the Now Sound debate alive, I do sort
of include Gary McFarland's "samba" records in the Now category and it
really doesn't have any of the classic signs I mentioned before.
Like horns.
I would include it because of its use of Beach Boys-style backing vocals.
And in the same sub-category I'd include perhaps my favorite record of the
period, Hugo Montenegro's "Good Vibrations", which is basically a vocal
harmony record.

I've been boiling down some of my new "soft, easy and sleazy" CD's lately.
Those "Soft n Easy" compilations out there.  Stuff like the Lindberg Hemmer
or even Fantastic Planet.  I notice some of that stuff appropriates the
term "Now Sound".
And I can actually see an association between my definition of the Now
Sound of the sixties and their use of the term.

It's all about a late-sixties notion of "MODERN".

With it.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds
Date: 04 Sep 2001 14:59:00 -0400


At 10:54 AM 9/4/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote:
>
>Okay.  I hope I can still get my ticket refunded.  My first exposure to
>Johnny Keating was on the Loungcore compilation "The Easy Project," which
>has some nice, swinging soundtrack-type songs.  I forget which were his, but
>I had assumed that JK was a hip arranger & conducter.  The "Temptation"
>album didn't dissuade me from that, although the subsequent Phase 4
>purchases were fairly disappointing.

You shouldn't assume such things about any of these guys.
You talk about Laurie Johnson.  I once had this record of his which had I
believe, the original version of whatever TV theme he's famous for - is it
the Avengers?.  On this record, it was just called "The Shake" or something
like that.
But the rest of the record was nothing like that cut.  Just your basic
well-arranged easy listening.
In an earlier post today someone said they associate Norrie Paramour with
producing the Shadows.
Boy that's not what I think of when I think of Norrie.  I associate him
with pretty well the opposite of that.  I was just listening to this record
of his called "The Zodiac".  You can probably figure out what it is.  A
tune for every sign of the zodiac.  It's sort of nice.  But it's all
strings and very low-key.  I think pretty well everything I've ever heard
by Norrie was like that.
But I'm not surprised to find out he went on to make some groovy things too.
Didn't they all?
I like a lot of things by Sounds Orchestral but nothing they did prepares
me for some of the John Schroeder cuts I've heard on those Loungecore
reissues.
The first time I heard John Keating, I figured he was just Ted Heath under
another name.
But maybe Ted also made some groovy records eventually.  (I don't like the
Heath vs. Ros record that much.)
With Keating, I get the feeling that when he called himself Johnny, he was
hipper. But maybe I have that wrong and he was always Johnny.
I find Phase Four really interesting.
Those records add an interesting wrinkle to the "Now Sound" debate.  I
basically think they don't qualify.
But when I make compilation CDR's, I include Ronnie Aldrich in what I call
my "Soft Now" category.
I don't think it is Now but I don't have another word for it.

bye for now

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: The Now Sound
Date: 04 Sep 2001 15:10:46 -0400


At 10:25 PM 9/3/01 -0400, Brian wrote:
. Alan mentions horns as an essential component and I'd
>probably agree.. but organs can also do the job as can the right guitar
>sound.
>
>Anyway, its too bad this discussion stopped so quick as I still feel a need
>to discuss the subject further.

I didn't mean to say that if it doesn't have horns, it doesn't qualify.  I
only meant that horns are a hallmark of the classic and most easily
identifiable Now Sound records.
I don't know if they always used horns during the go-go sequences on
Laugh-In yet I agree with those who identify that as classic Now.
I think the reason horns make it identifiable is because otherwise it can
be difficult to distinguish it from "instrumental rock".
The sound is about an attitude, not a set of instruments.  It's just that
if they use horns, it's clear to me that they have that attitude.
For me the attitude includes what you might call a "miscalculation".
They're not making rock instrumentals.  They're making their version of
rock instrumentals.
And when they use horns, it's obvious they sort of don't get it.

(On the other hand, there are Willie Mitchell records and Booker T with the
horn section.  So it's not a sure sign.)

I mentioned this record I heard at Will's called "Mood Mosaic".  No it's
not a set of CD's recently reissued.  It's one record on Studio 2 and Nicky
Hopkins plays harpsichord on it.
I don't think there are any horns on that but I'd call it very Now Sound.
In the case of this record - which I hope to find some day - it's the vocal
chorusses  they sprinkle in, that marks it as very Now.

The now debate continues.
(And the race-of-DJ's debate hopefully dies.)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Gary McFarland and the Now Sound
Date: 04 Sep 2001 15:28:41 -0500



> I accidentally bought this one called "Sympathetic Vibrations" on ebay and
> it turned out to be a reissue of Soft Samba.  But it was a way better copy
> so I kept it.  I always have trouble finding these McFarland records in
> playable shape.
> I've never found a good copy of "Does the sun..".  Maybe "In Sound" is a
> reissue of that one.  I think he does "God only knows" on it.

"The In Sound" is a separate album that preceded "Does the Sun Really Shine
on the Moon."   Douglas Payne has a nice web site on Gary McFarland at
http://www.dougpayne.com/gary1.htm
His discography is  extensive, and looking at it I realize how much there is
that I never knew existed.  His contributions to most of the albums are as
arranger, but the Skye label was his own, and he had quite a few albums
there.  I guess the Verve stuff just got better distribution.  Can anybody
out there comment on "Today," "America the Beautiful," or "Butterscotch
Rum"?
The story of McFarland's untimely demise is also tragic.  Seems somebody
slipped some liquid meth into his cocktail and he died on the spot.  The web
site doesn't offer more information on the event than that.
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From: Jerry Nutter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) public radio scumballs
Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:40:10 -0400


Domenic Ciccone: Public radio may in time loosen up. It may not really be
their fault. It's
the public that drives support after all. The GM would play bagpipes all
day if it generated the pledges... And maybe in about 20 years when we are
in our 60's well get a chance to
play Denny and Esquivel on public radio.

audiocarp: Don't hold your breath and don't quit your day job! I was a
volunteer at WNYC here in New York and their idea of "loosening up" is
running Schickele Mix! And yes, it *is* their fault that they suck and are
totally unresponsive to their audience. Your station may be the only one in
the country that doesn't take money from corporate underwriters, but the
majority of public radio stations live for that "payola". They even have an
office devoted to it, euphemistically called "Development". And they also
have been stepping up the amount of commercials on 'NYC, as on public
television, all because their precious gov't funding has been cut.
Meanwhile, if they had a dedicated core audience who supported them, they
wouldn't need any of it! But then they'd actually have to cater to that
audience, and they don't even know who their audience is. They rely on a
quarterly Arbitron demographic report. And they use that to get the ad
money.
And don't get me started on the numbskulls who work there who haven't a
clue as to what the appeal of radio is or how it should be used...
Not to mention NPR...
Not to mention that the term "public radio" is a misnomer: In what sense,
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Subject: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music
Date: 04 Sep 2001 20:17:25 -0400


Stephen Worth: The truism that "popular" music is never as good as
"serious" music is a relatively recent one. If you look at the list of
artists that sold the most records from 1900 to 1960, the list would look
something like this... Enrico Caruso, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington,
Benny Goodman, Glenn Miller, Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley...

audiocarp: I maintain that popular music was *never* any good, but like
everything else, it's been in steady decline for so long that the divide
between the two has finally become plainly clear to anyone with a brain
connected to their ears. (I think pop actually died around 1969.) The
reason for this decline is anyone's guess, but I think it's due to radio
consultants, the dumbing down of Americans and entropy.
Also, don't agree on your list of top sellers: As someone who's wasted a
lot of time digging through endless piles of Mitch Miller and Frankie Laine
78s at yard sales, I can testify that Louis Armstrong, the Duke and the
King sold bupkus compared to those others you mentioned. We're talking
ratios of at least 500:1 here. And Caruso blows! He was the Madonna of
1910. (His records sell for a buck apiece at record shows.)

Stephen Worth: The ghettoisation of popular music has only been since the
British Invasion when marketing became more important than the music.

Kahuna: I have thaught so for quite some time, too. I think the
developement was furthered after 70s Punk.

audiocarp: As for marketing overtaking the music, ever heard of Johnny Ray,
guys? And Sinatra paid his bobbysoxers to swoon at his concerts! I think
Kahuna is referring to the Anglophilia which a lot of US radio and magazine
people seem to have. To them any English import has an instant cache. Back
in the 80s, I admit I caught this 'orrible disease when I first heard the
Clash, the Specials, Pistols, Damned, Jam, et al. But a couple of years
later, when all those bands crapped out or broke up, what replaced them?
Spandau Ballet and Duran/Duran. That cured me! The really funny thing is
that to this day, if you read NME, they have Yank-o-fever over our groups
like Destiny's Child! I guess the grass is always greener...










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From: Jerry Nutter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) elimination of tv
Date: 04 Sep 2001 21:06:06 -0400


Alan Zweig: In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of
Television", the
author pointed out that three hundred years ago, if native Americans walked
into the forest and two of them ate a strange plant and died, they'd just
say "Nobody eat that plant".  Now we appoint a commission to study the matter.

audiocarp: Those must be four really long arguments to fill a book! Which I
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Subject: Re: (exotica) elimination of tv
Date: 04 Sep 2001 21:29:09 -0400


> In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television"
>
> audiocarp: Those must be four really long arguments to fill a book!

I was impressed with 'Four Arguments' -- It is one of my two favorite bookss
concerning television.  The other is Neil Postman's 'Amusing Ourselves to Death'

Both books are likely to result in you watching less television and listening to
more records.

For those interested, here's the preface to 'Amusing Ourselves to Death' ....
http://serendipity.magnet.ch/jsmill/post_1.html

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Subject: Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight)
Date: 04 Sep 2001 20:46:15 -0700


<<<Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:41:33 +0100

<Kahimi Karie, Cornelius, Fantastic Plastic Machine,  Pizzicato 5, Takako
Minekawa are some of the more obvious names.  But a whole creative thing
going on over there.
At least that means that they've been putting those expensive LP's to good
use.
The Scamps.
El Maestro Con Queso>>>>>

 A good place to hear asian pop is on live365.com, just do a search on jpop.
I have soccerchic10's station on my presets (along with BGSpradlin's always
wonderful Spectropop's GirlPop Radio.)  Many of the jpop, kpop & cantopop
singers do the Celine/Mariah/Whitney/TLC/Destiny's Child/Madonna/etc
imitations, but there is
enough frothy bouncy dancy girlpop to keep you busy. Seems I'm more
accepting when pretty young girls one-third my age sing songs in a language
I don't understand.

About a year ago I would check the charts at Angelpop & YesAsia (which have
since merged) and listen to sound samples of the cutest girl singers or
groups. Unfortunately YesAsia is tight with the samples now. Anyway, back
then a trip
over to that now-moribund file-sharing place would turn up lots of mp3's by
the cuties at Angelpop.
I must have hundreds, and just found two Petty Booka tunes at Morpheus,
including a jumpin bluegrass version of Material Girl and a folksy Do You
Really Want to Hurt Me.

So the above artists mentioned by El Maestro are the ones that have had some
success or at least CD releases in the US. But let me add the following to
the list: Puffy Amiyumi (new US release), Ayumi Hamasaki, Hi-Posi, Morning
Musume, Speed, Every Little Thing, Utada Hikaru, & rockin' Shiina Ringo.
Korea gives us BabyVox, Finkl, SES and on and on. The International Channel
has the Korean equivalent of MTV's TRL on Monday night and a mandarin
Chinese top 20 on Wednesdays. Korean CD's are cheap and occasionally come
with a VCD
of music videos. FYI YesAsia sometimes has "international"  (Taiwan)
versions for $10 less than the Japanese CD's.

Funny how during the Napster heyday my Pink Lady songs were popular
downloads. And now all 6 Pink Lady episodes are being released on DVD in
early October (been pushed back a few times already). Here's a blurb from
CDNow:
"300 Minutes . This DVD contains episodes 1-6 and includes guest stars
Blondie, Larry Hagman, Hugh Hefner, The Playboy Playmates, Alice Cooper and
Roy Orbison."
Yikes, the Apocalypse is near - 6 hours!!! I better go use that CDNow coupon
that expires tonight.

JBjpopkpop









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From: crymad <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of
Date: 04 Sep 2001 21:13:13 -0700




JamesBGerwitz wrote:
>

> So the above artists mentioned by El Maestro are the ones that have had some
> success or at least CD releases in the US. But let me add the following to
> the list: Puffy Amiyumi (new US release), Ayumi Hamasaki, Hi-Posi, Morning
> Musume, Speed, Every Little Thing, Utada Hikaru, & rockin' Shiina Ringo.

Holy Jap crap...believe me, the charming exoticism of these very mass
market performers dwindles after you are subjected a few months of
encounters from TV, radio, commercials, karaoke, and piped-in store
music.

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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) elimination of tv
Date: 05 Sep 2001 01:32:40 -0400


At 09:06 PM 9/4/01 -0400, Jerry Nutter wrote:
>
>Alan Zweig: In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of
>Television",
>
>audiocarp: Those must be four really long arguments to fill a book! Which I
>could read, because I have attention deficit disorder from watching MTV.

It's a great book.  I read it a million years ago but I remember it fondly.
 I watch more TV than most but I kind of wish it didn't exist.  I can't
stop watching it on m own.  I need help.  Please eliminate it.
I think the author's name was Gerry Mander, which may be a pseudonym given
the fact that his name makes up a word, I think.

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds
Date: 05 Sep 2001 09:14:30 +0100


Irritatingly I've embedded comments..

> In an earlier post today someone said they associate Norrie Paramour with
> producing the Shadows.
> Boy that's not what I think of when I think of Norrie.  I associate him
> with pretty well the opposite of that.
Norrie Paramor wrote and produced pretty much all of Cliff Richard and The
Shadows 50's and early 60's stuff, and was quite a player in the Brit.
Rock'n'Roll scene of the time.  Even if he was producing very soft Latin
LP's at the time (eg Lovers in Latin from '58).   BTW he did a latin LP of
Cliff and Shadows songs that was released on a Studio 2 twofer 2 years ago.
> But I'm not surprised to find out he went on to make some groovy things
> too.
> Didn't they all?
> .
> The first time I heard John Keating, I figured he was just Ted Heath under
> another name.
I don't know if that was an informed remark or just off the cuff, but on the
Temptation LP it says JK was arranger for Ted Heath for a number of years.

> With Keating, I get the feeling that when he called himself Johnny, he was
> hipper. But maybe I have that wrong and he was always Johnny.
Or maybe just younger....

> I find Phase Four really interesting.
I've more often been disappointed than stimulated,  but there you go.

El Maestro Con Queso

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From: "Telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Mondo Bongos Sep 5, 2001
Date: 05 Sep 2001 07:52:13 -0400


Mondo Bongos can be heard every Wednesday morning at 9 (EST) on CFRU 93.3fm
in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. The show is also available on the web at
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm

23 Skidoo - Ethics 7"
Essential Logic - Barbie Be Happy
Shades of Time - Can You Dig It "Amazing Funk Masters"
Bar-Kays - Bar-Kays Boogaloo "Soul Finger"
The Fantastic Johnny C - Boogaloo Down Broadway 7"
Roundhouse - I Hear You Call "Beyond The Valley Of The Ultrabeats"
Guy Boyer - Bongos & Sound "Sexopolis"
DJ Food feat Ken Nordine - The Ageing Young Rebel "Xen Cuts"
Can - Don't Say No "Saw Delight"
James Last - U-Humbah "Voodoo Party"
Eric Random & The Bedlamites - Nile Song "Ismael"
Kalachakra - Raga No 11 "Crawling To Lhasa"
Okko -Santana "Sitar & Electronics"
George Coleman - I Wish I Could Sing "Bongo Joe"
The Desperate Bicycles - Smokescreen 7"

...music has been very very good to me...

Allan

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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Now Sound
Date: 05 Sep 2001 11:14:30 -0400


At 03:10 PM 09/04/2001, AZ wrote:
>And when they use horns, it's obvious they sort of don't get it.
>(On the other hand, there are Willie Mitchell records and Booker T with the
>horn section.  So it's not a sure sign.)

Mention of the Stax instro acts got me thinking of a stab at a more
technical definition of Now Sound. Here it is for you to lacerate, agree
with or embroider:

R&B-style instrumentals with de-emphasized soul and cartoonishly
exaggerated rhythms.


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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Adult Swim"
Date: 05 Sep 2001 11:16:13 -0400


At 12:12 AM 09/01/2001, Rod wrote:
>I was fortunate enough to preview "Adult Swim" a couple months ago, and it
>is (with the exception of "Home Movies") hilarious. It'll definitely have
>my viewership for 2.5 hours every week.
>The title doesn't lie, either -- some of the humor is very adult.
>Those on this list will really like the "Harvey Birdman" opening sequence.
>Cool visuals, cool song.

It is a neat opener. My 2 cents: the Hanna-Barbera deconstruction/warpings
are entertaining and even disorienting, but the real whomping piece of work
is "Cowboy Bebop". I don't know if it's the top anime ever that some people
seem to think it is, but it's darned solid. And the opening theme (killer
crime jazz) / title sequence is breathtaking. Some cool stuff goes on
elsewhere in the score as well -- caught one sequence scored with just
congas & bongos, very tasty. Can't say a whole lot on the basis of two
episodes, but the story itself seems better than average. Reminds me of
Hong Kong gangster movies... lots of wild action with some attention paid
to mood and character (more than current Hollywood anyway). Mind you, we
are talking about outer space bounty hunters.

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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Petty Booka
Date: 05 Sep 2001 11:44:37 -0400


This page:
http://ap.e-direct.ne.jp/sinf/title.php3?T_CD_CODE=6506

has some brief samples from their "Singin' In The Rain" album. I like their
version of "Rainy Days and Mondays" with steel drums.


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From: "Justin Bartlett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Down Under
Date: 06 Sep 2001 01:59:51 +1000


Aloha,

For those of you that showed interest
in the Exotica Down Under CD's
by Nelson Ferguson, here's an update.

I've just come back from Nelson's place in the country
(about 2 & a half hours drive from my place)
with the first two CD's material (we decided to re-record
some of the tracks, so they have been delayed a little)
The new titles are.....
'Trade Winds' - The music of Hawaii volume 1
'Beyond The Reef' - The music of Hawaii volume 2
which are definitely ready now and are sounding fantastic.
And the Classical Exotica CD is now called
'Sabre Dance' & will be ready soon,
with 4 more titles planned.

They are being released by Gala Sono Records
here in Brisbane, Australia.
Email - [e-mail]
with a web site currently under construction.
More updates to come.

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From: "Justin Bartlett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tahitian Song Book / LP Finds
Date: 06 Sep 2001 02:19:03 +1000


Aloha,

I have a Tahitian song book called
Te Mau Himene Tahiti  -  Chants Tahitiens
(Polynesian songs composed or adapted by Eddie Lund)
Does anyone know how I can get the English translations
for the song titles.
Maybe on the web, some kind of translater site?????
These are for my friend Nelson to arrange for a
CD of Tahitian songs.

Here's some stuff I found on my last trip out to
the country.
Colorful Romantic Hawaii  -  The Surfmen
(I assume this is an alternate title given for the Australian release?)
At The Candlelight Cafe  -  The Three Suns
Dream Time  -  Wayne King & His Orchestra
(such an unfortunate name!)
More Bossa Nover Pops  -  Joe Harnell
Drifting And Dreaming  -  Bing Crosby
(I'd never heared lyrics for Beyond The Reef before this)
At The Movies  -  Enoch Light

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From: KK <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music
Date: 05 Sep 2001 21:18:45 +0000




> Kahuna: I have thaught so for quite some time, too. I think the
> developement was furthered after 70s Punk.
>
> audiocarp: I think
> Kahuna is referring to the Anglophilia which a lot of US radio and magazine
> people seem to have. To them any English import has an instant cache. Back
> in the 80s, I admit I caught this 'orrible disease when I first heard the
> Clash, the Specials, Pistols, Damned, Jam, et al. But a couple of years
> later, when all those bands crapped out or broke up, what replaced them?

Kahuna: In the eighties things started to look brighter again, with the 50s
and 60s revivals coming into play really. I liked the british Polecats as much
as The Stray Cats from NY. I liked the Surfadelics and The Fuzztones. The
concept of revival has never left us after the eighties. It got stronger, but
increasingly shallow, and un-street. Now people seem to be belive that any
revival is a righteous one. Which is in my opinion a real anti-progress
opinion. But the current of popular music forced that kind of attitude and
all.
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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Now Sound
Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:19:27 -0400


At 11:14 AM 9/5/01 -0400, M.Ace wrote:
>
>
>Mention of the Stax instro acts got me thinking of a stab at a more
>technical definition of Now Sound. Here it is for you to lacerate, agree
>with or embroider:
>
>R&B-style instrumentals with de-emphasized soul and cartoonishly
>exaggerated rhythms.

I rise to lacerate.
If you want to say that Now sounds like your description, I guess that's
okay though it doesn't cover all of the things I would throw in the Now
Sound bag.
But it covers the classic stuff.
I guess the only reason I'd dispute this definition is because it's a
description but doesn't really address how the music was made.  They didn't
really de-emphasize anything.  In fact, in a sense these musicians were
kind of adding soul to the sound they would have "naturally" created.
No, I think the simplest definition is to start with big band music, make
the drummer swing less - play more like Charlie Watts or Ringo - add organ
and/or more rockin guitar (rather than simply using it as a rhythm
instrument).
But the thing which we've all been ignoring - in my case because I don't
know how to talk about it - is that the standards of the sixties were quite
different from the standards of the fifties (and before) which big band and
space-age bachelor lounge musicians played.
And it's not so simple as to say that it was rock n roll.  I don't think
Bacharach wrote rock songs.  And yet his material fits in with the a lot of
the rock and pop that Now Sound covers.
There are N.S. records which actually try to transform the fifties
standards into the new sound.  And they work to some degree.  But that
material always sounds different from the more modern tunes.  Even the
original tunes on N.S. records have that sound.  It's a different way of
writing.
I agree that it's partly the way the bands played.  But it's also the
tunes.  And I don't know how to talk about music on that level.

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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Phase Four
Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:19:24 -0400


At 09:14 AM 9/5/01 +0100, [e-mail] wrote:
>> I find Phase Four really interesting.
>I've more often been disappointed than stimulated,  but there you go.

I didn't say stimulated (though I'm sure you also find them much less
interesting than I do.)  I haven't had too many Phase Four records I would
consider Now Sound or in any way "exciting" enough to be called stimulating.
In fact what I find interesting about them is the way they're sort of the
opposite of stimulating.  And yet how enjoyable I find them.
I guess I'm thinking particularly of Ronnie Aldrich.
I realize that I've developed a taste for very quiet, soft things.  But I
still have my standards.  And some things are just too plain, too soft, too
nothing.
But some of those Ronnie Aldrich cuts almost remind me of ambient music or
Brian Eno.  And since I know it's just a couple of pianos and an orchestra,
I get the feeling that it's the Phase four recording techniques that
elevate the material.
Not to take anything away from Ronnie's possible genius.
I feel the same way about some of the later Kostelanetz records so I know
that this sound I love can be achieved through arrangements and not just
through recording techniques.
But still, Phase four seems to have this way of making the music just
float....

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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ronnie Aldrich
Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:21:54 -0400


Ronnie's actually had a few really good cuts, good orchestration (which is =
generally where most songs fall apart, in boring composition............) =
- I like some of his cuts off of the "Twin Pianos" LP.

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From: KK <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Now Sound
Date: 05 Sep 2001 21:44:25 +0000


> I agree that it's partly the way the bands played.  But it's also the
> tunes.  And I don't know how to talk about music on that level.

The difference between the 60s music and the tunes of previous decades is that
the 60s standards were composed with a production-sound in mind. Joe Meek,
Phil Spector, Brian Wilson, Detroit and Memphis soul etc. You had those kind
of people before, like Glenn Miller or Martin Denny, but they were recorded in
the same way any other session would be done. So more or less anybody could
get that sound on a cover version, given the same instrumentation.
In the sixties you could still cover the tune, but you couldnÆt sound like
them much anymore. You had to put in some of your own. And if this element was
created by jaded session men, I can easily see / hear that it could have
sounded like now-sound.
A tune that is being composed with a sound in mind, I mean the final sound is
not just an attribute but an integral part of the tune itself. You would leave
more spaces for that. Feature parts for the sake of their sound and groove.
The arrangement happened on a cleaner canvas, with master arrangers being able
to fill the leaner melodic content and harmonic base with a greater variation
of features, than the original recording.
The Beatles and The Beach Boys, in my book, pulled a lot of stops, which is
not as typical sixties, their songs could more commonly mingle among a set of
older tunes.

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From: James Botticelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase Four
Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:38:52 -0400


on 9/5/01 3:19 PM, alan  zweig at [e-mail] wrote:

> I haven't had too many Phase Four records I would
> consider Now Sound or in any way "exciting" enough to be called stimulating.

A used record shop here in Cambridge is named after Phase Four and he has a
pretty groovy tee-shirt as well. It simply says "Phase Four' in swirling
psychedelic lettering. He loves the label he says, but he'll sell anything
that sells...His two 'new arrivals' bins usually contain some tasty items.
He's one of those guys who charges $3.50 for a rekkid instead of most of the
dealers around here who charge $3.99...And so it goes
--
DJ Jimmy Botticelli
The Groove Merchants
Mobile DJ's For Hire
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From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ronnie Aldrich
Date: 05 Sep 2001 21:36:16 +0100


Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> Ronnie's actually had a few really good cuts, good orchestration (which is generally where most songs fall apart, in boring composition............) - I like some of his cuts off of the "Twin Pianos" LP.

anyone know which LP of his has his cover of 'Soulful Strut' on?

and, i'm not 100% sure it's on Phase 4, but the Johnny Dankworth
'Million Dollar Collection' - is it any good? it's always priced very
highly. (not as highly though as his 'Zodiac' one)



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From: "william" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) songs for the jet set
Date: 06 Sep 2001 12:01:46 +0800


hi all,

   not too long ago i finally picked up "songs for the jet set" that siesta
comp. there is a band on here called loveletter and they cover "barbarella"
and one other tune.  does anyone have their full length album? does it sound
like this or is it really different from the tracks that are  on this?

          william in taipei.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Norrie
Date: 06 Sep 2001 09:39:08 +0100


I had a look through my Cliff Richard and The Shadows stuff last night and
it looks like Norrie Paramor did do much of the production (or Musical
Supervision) even of the Shadows (without Cliff - or should that be Sir
Cliff),  but he didn't write much, the most notable exception being stuff
from the Expresso Bongo Soundtrack.


El Maestro Con Queso

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Adult Swim"
Date: 06 Sep 2001 08:46:08 -0400



>It is a neat opener. My 2 cents: the Hanna-Barbera deconstruction/warpings
>are entertaining and even disorienting, but the real whomping piece of
>work is "Cowboy Bebop". I don't know if it's the top anime ever that some
>people seem to think it is, but it's darned solid. And the opening theme
>(killer crime jazz) / title sequence is breathtaking.


And the composer of the theme and all of the other music is Yoko
Kanno.  She has an amazing knack for various styles.  Jazz, Heavy Metal,
Country and Western, Blues, all of them show up in the series and it is
mnd-boggling to believe, but it's all done by the same person (with
different lyricists.  She has that Les Baxter-ish (Hi, Laura!) knack.  Her
work for a show called "Brain-Powered" is scored for full orchestra, even.

Don't believe me?  Think I am joking?   Think that this outfit makes me
look chunky?  Skip the last question and go to:
http://jameswong.com/ykproject/music.html  for complete sound samples.

The internet adds ten pounds,
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From: "william" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie
Date: 06 Sep 2001 22:18:28 +0800


>> So the above artists mentioned by El Maestro are the ones that have had
some
>> success or at least CD releases in the US. But let me add the following
to
>> the list: Puffy Amiyumi (new US release), Ayumi Hamasaki, Hi-Posi,
Morning
>> Musume, Speed, Every Little Thing, Utada Hikaru, & rockin' Shiina Ringo.

>Holy Jap crap...believe me, the charming exoticism of these very mass
>market performers dwindles after you are subjected a few months of
>encounters from TV, radio, commercials, karaoke, and piped-in store
>music.

      i'd second this. this is the very kind of japanese music i find
interesting for a few seconds(if that) and then become quickly bored.
pizzicato five, cornelius, and kahimi karie this definately is not. i think
perhaps the further away you are from the source of this material the more
exotic it appears though.

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Subject: (exotica) re:cowboy bebop
Date: 06 Sep 2001 22:26:16 +0800


>but the real whomping piece of work
>is "Cowboy Bebop". I don't know if it's the top anime ever that some people
>seem to think it is, but it's darned solid. And the opening theme (killer
>crime jazz) / title sequence is breathtaking. Some cool stuff goes on
>elsewhere in the score as well -- caught one sequence scored with just
>congas & bongos, very tasty.

    there were 5 soundtracks released from this series.

  cowboy bebop ost 1
  cowboy bebop no disc ost 2
  cowboy bebop  blue ost 3
  cowboy bebop vitaminless
  cowboy bebop remixes music for freelance

    its been awhile since i've listened  to them, so i don't remember that
much about them all. though music for freelance has bits between the songs
of some radio station operating from mars. and no disc has a remix by dj
food on it. from what i remember  each disc has at least a few good things
on it(if not more). not as good as the lupin the third ost perhaps. but
still interesting. i've never seen the anime series though.

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Date: 06 Sep 2001 15:28:39 +0100


does anyone have an mp3 or such of Lieutenant Pigeons 'Mouldy Old Dough', I
don't have the technology unfortunately, and need it for something here.

El Maestro Con Queso

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Subject: (exotica) Pea Hicks on Irwin's show - 9/12/01 noon-1:30pm
Date: 06 Sep 2001 14:18:34 -0400



Wednesday, September 12, Noon - 1:30pm
PEA HICKS
Mr. Hicks is one-half of the obsolete-tech duo Optiganally Yours, who've
undertaken the thankless task of sparking a resurgence of public
indifference to Mattel's early '70s lo-fi groove machine, the Optigan. OY
currently record for Absolutely Kosher Records, and will be in town to
perform at a CMJ showcase. He'll spin new and unreleased Optiganally Yours
tracks, and will also share oddities from his personal record collection.
On Irwin's show.

Webcast at http://www.wfmu.org



The NY Post reports that the blow that sent Mariah Carey to the
hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer
Lopez had laid claim to the same Yellow Magic Orchestra sample that
she wanted to use. The YMO tune in dispute was "Firecracker." YMO was
the Japanese supergroup that included legendary producers Ryuichi
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Subject: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music
Date: 06 Sep 2001 13:16:00 -0700


>Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:17:25 -0400
>From: Jerry Nutter <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music
>
>Also, don't agree on your list of top sellers: As someone who's wasted a
>lot of time digging through endless piles of Mitch Miller and Frankie Laine
>78s at yard sales, I can testify that Louis Armstrong, the Duke and the
>King sold bupkus compared to those others you mentioned.

That may be true in comparison with the others, but there are other
factors to take into account. During the Great Depression, record
sales plummeted due to lack of disposable income and the rise of
radio. By 30's standards, and in comparison to other musicians of
the day, particularly black ones, Duke Ellington and Louis
Armstrong sold a LOT of records. Elvis Presley sold a tremendous
amount of records in a very short period of time. I was referring
to the years before he entered the army primarily.

One thing you have to remember as a "social archaeologist" when
going through stacks of old records, the ones that survive aren't
everything. There is a diproportionate number of surviving records
that appealed to upper middle class tastes in the mid fifties. There
are several reasons for that: 1) the poorer classes were not so
consciencious about changing their steel needle with each play.
Their records got thrashed quicker and were discarded, rather than
being sold off or given to the Goodwill. 2) The record business post
WW2 was MUCH bigger than before that. They produced many, many times
more records per year than they did during the war or the thirties.
3) During the first few decades of the history of the phonograph,
records were expensive and were viewed as a status symbol.  The people
who owned them, babied these records. That is why you see so many
completely pristine collections of bat wing Victor Red Seals from
the 20s...

>And Caruso blows! He was the Madonna of 1910.

That is a completely ridiculous opinion. I'm going to assume you
don't know what you are talking about.

>(His records sell for a buck apiece at record shows.)

The reason they are inexpensive now has nothing to do with their
quality, and has everything to do with Caruso's popularity. The
price of Caruso's records in their time was between $3 and $5
apiece. That is in 1910 dollars! They cost a LOT of money back
then, yet they still sold by the truckloads. The fact that enough
remain today to be worth very little on the collectors market
proves my point exactly.

>As for marketing overtaking the music, ever heard of Johnny Ray,
>guys? And Sinatra paid his bobbysoxers to swoon at his concerts!

And they were both among the dozen or so most influential and
creative popular singers of all time. You are using examples
that contradict your point.

See ya
Steve

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Subject: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music
Date: 06 Sep 2001 13:21:09 -0700


>Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:18:45 +0000
>From: KK <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) ghetto-ized pop music

>Kahuna: In the eighties things started to look brighter again, with the 50s
>and 60s revivals coming into play really. The concept of revival
>has never left us after the eighties. It got stronger, but
>increasingly shallow, and un-street.

My objection to the revival movement is that they recycle without
adding anything significantly new to the genre. When Dick Dale
talks about Gene Krupa's drumming being influential to the
development of his guitar style, he is talking about taking
the influence of a previous musical style and transforming it
into his own style. The Stray Cats and REM just took rockabilly
and the Byrds and reprocessed them. There was no real
transformation involved.

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Subject: (exotica) Engineers vs Musicians
Date: 06 Sep 2001 13:29:32 -0700


>Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:44:25 +0000
>From: KK <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) The Now Sound
>
>The difference between the 60s music and the tunes of previous decades
>is that the 60s standards were composed with a production-sound in
>mind. Joe Meek, Phil Spector, Brian Wilson, Detroit and Memphis soul
>etc. You had those kind of people before, like Glenn Miller or Martin
>Denny, but they were recorded in the same way any other session would
>be done. So more or less anybody could get that sound on a cover
>version, given the same instrumentation.

That is why performers of the past developed their own inimitable
playing style. You could play an Ellington arrangement with the exact
same charts, but without Bubber Miley, you wouldn't have the same
sound at all. Try to play a Bix Beiderbecke solo from charts. It
just can't be done.

The difference is that in the old days, all of the creativity was
on the stage with the musicians, the engineers in the booth were
just trying to capture it faithfully. In the 60's, the Beatles
started experimenting with different production techniques. That
was great for the Beatles, because they were solid musicians in
control of their sound. But for lesser musicians it was a bad
way to go. In those cases, the engineers became more creative
and the musicians became less creative.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Engineers vs Musicians
Date: 06 Sep 2001 18:00:57 -0400


on 9/6/01 4:29 PM, bigshot at [e-mail] wrote:

> Try to play a Bix Beiderbecke solo from charts. It
> just can't be done.

on the other hand (Harry Truman always said, "Give me a one-handed
economist) there was Supersax whose LP "Supersax Plays Bird" not only
faithfully replayed Charlie Parker horn solos, but structured them in five
part harmony at times! It can be done my friend, it can be done.
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Date: 06 Sep 2001 18:56:18 EDT



In a message dated 9/5/01 11:04:43 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<<    not too long ago i finally picked up "songs for the jet set" that siesta
comp. there is a band on here called loveletter and they cover "barbarella"
and one other tune.  does anyone have their full length album? does it sound
like this or is it really different from the tracks that are  on this? >>

The full-length has the tracks on it from the "Jet Set" compilation along
with a whole bunch of new ones, and while it's good, I don't think the new
stuff quite hit the heights of the comp tracks.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Mariah's fit (was Pea Hicks on Irwin's show -
Date: 06 Sep 2001 19:47:35 -0400


At 02:18 PM 09/06/2001, Lou wrote:
>The NY Post reports that the blow that sent Mariah Carey to the
>hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer
>Lopez had laid claim to the same Yellow Magic Orchestra sample that
>she wanted to use.

Pardon me, just can't hold it back...

[insert 5 minutes of cruel laughter]

Please Lou, more details.


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Date: 06 Sep 2001 19:51:51 -0400



>And the composer of the theme and all of the other music is Yoko
>Kanno.  She has an amazing knack for various styles.  Jazz, Heavy Metal,
>Country and Western, Blues, all of them show up in the series and it is
>mnd-boggling to believe, but it's all done by the same person (with
>different lyricists.  She has that Les Baxter-ish (Hi, Laura!) knack.  Her
>work for a show called "Brain-Powered" is scored for full orchestra, even.
>
>http://jameswong.com/ykproject/music.html  for complete sound samples.

Thanks for the link, Brian. Terrific. I already know the music on Cowboy
Bebop is fairly diverse, but checking her work on other projects as well,
the diversity is indeed mind-boggling. I'll bet there's even some
exotica-sounding stuff in there, just to complete the Baxter parallel.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music
Date: 06 Sep 2001 22:31:33 -0400


At 01:21 PM 9/6/01 -0700, bigshot wrote:
>iThe Stray Cats and REM just took rockabilly
>and the Byrds and reprocessed them. There was no real
>transformation involved.

  Are you equating the Stray Cats and R.E.M.?  Are you calling R.E.M some
kind of "revival band" like the Stray Cats.  If so, I'm not going to get
into a big argument.  I'll just quote what you said to someone else in your
previous post:

"That is a completely ridiculous opinion. I'm going to assume you
don't know what you are talking about."

I haven't really been following this thread but that caught my eye.
As far as what appears to be your bigger issue, I wish I could be more
definitive about it but in my experience the business of "Is the band just
imitating or have they created something new?" is too subjective to argue
about.
I spent the evening with new friends recently.  This guy is about my age
and has a huge record collection.  I was familiar with everything he
played.  A lot of it I had once owned and loved myself.  But after a few
hours, I had to ask him whether he had anything made after 1973.
Everytime I gave him an example of a post-1973 band that he might like,
given the fact that they were clearly influenced by the music he loved, he
said "Yeah I've heard them.  I just didn't think they were as good as (The
Velvet Underground, The Byrds, the Stooges etc etc)  They didn't add
anything new.  They're just more of the same.  Why should I listen to them
when I can listen to the original?"
And for the umpteenth thousandth time in my life, I thought to myself "How
curious that the better, more original stuff just happened to be created
when you were first getting into music.  How convenient is that??"
Personally I don't really care if the new bands I like transformed,
imitated or created something new.
But I have to assume that once upon a time, there was someone who thought
just about any artist you can name, was just imitating - not transforming -
some previous artist.
I'm sure you'll disagree.

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Subject: (exotica) Kahimi Karie/McFarland's In Sound
Date: 06 Sep 2001 19:50:17 -0700


Re: Kahimi Karie. She sounds a lot like Claudine. I think that would have been what would have drawn me to her originally except that the first time I heard her I saw her live. Her voice is tiny and whispery when she sings, but that's also the way she talks. As was mentioned before, you can get a compilation of some of her good songs on the Minty Fresh release Kahimi Karie, which was the first domestic release of her work. However I highly recommend the Crue-L label EP "I Am A Kitten", which has kind of become her signature song, and none of the songs on it are on the Minty Fresh collection, which is kind of unfortunate. I know it took Minty Fresh about 3 years to secure the rights and they almost gave up on it, but luckily they didn't. She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris, loves to collaborate, sings in English, French, Japanese and Italian. Kahimi is love.

Re: Gary McFarland's The In Sound. I would have to say this is the essential McFarland album. If you were to buy any McFarland album, go with this one.

Also, can anyone confirm the rumor I heard about Tom Cruise planning to produce the movie about the Shaggs? It seems way to creepy to be true.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music
Date: 06 Sep 2001 22:57:29 -0400


on 9/6/01 10:31 PM, alan  zweig at [e-mail] wrote:

> But I have to assume that once upon a time, there was someone who thought
> just about any artist you can name, was just imitating - not transforming -
> some previous artist.

For Once In My Life I can say that "well-said trumps well-done"..Its really
all about where YOU and you and YoU and YOu stepped into the picture, not
about the truly unoriginal thoughts that circulate through your nebuli and
dopamine processing centers. Middle-Age hips a fella/gal to that fact. That
leads me to another version of the "why are we into 'this' " question, and
that is; Do we think or feel that we have transcended the bummer
enlightenment of Middle Age by finding stuff that is unacceptably
acceptable? Or have we truly stumbled onto a new angle of observation. The
new angle theory works for me, but I'm identifying lately as a 50% elitist
and a 50% conservative--fuck all y'all--kinda guy

> I'm sure you'll disagree.

I'm not a gambler, but odds are in your favorbank

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From: "Brian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: The Now Sound
Date: 06 Sep 2001 23:19:01 -0400


M.Ace wrote:
> technical definition of Now Sound.
> R&B-style instrumentals with de-emphasized soul and cartoonishly
> exaggerated rhythms.

Alan wrote:
> the standards of the sixties were quite different from the standards of
the fifties
> (and before) which big band and space-age bachelor lounge musicians
played.
> And it's not so simple as to say that it was rock n roll...
> There are N.S. records which actually try to transform the fifties
> standards into the new sound.  And they work to some degree.  But that
> material always sounds different from the more modern tunes

There's one other term that may help; The description found on many of the
usually instrumental records that happen to have some interesting Now Sound
tracks included.  I've actually been using it as a clue for some time to see
if I should buy the records I spot or whether to listen to those I can
audition. It's particularly noticeble on the German records where they tend
to uniformly add a descriptor at the end of the song, ie Foxtrot, Waltz,
Rhumba or "Beat".  That last one is the key word for me, and no surprise
again the songs with this tag are most often pop-rock songs done by the
orchestra in question.  This is how I discoverd Hugo Strasser's verison of
Indian Resewrvation and Black Magic Woman (though I don't think Max Gregor's
"Big Train" was a rock song but probably R&B - to get back to M. Ace's
comment). I have to agree with Alan's description of  Now Sound being what
were then unhip people trying to play "the songs the kids liked".  However,
what isn't clear is whether they were trying to extend their audience to the
younger crowd, or trying to entice the older crowd to "think young", or
both. Either way, they do have a wackiness and off the wall sound which only
comes from being so totally off-base that they work at a whole different
level.

To follow up onthat thought, here's an intersting observation; I received a
few records as a gift when I was 13, that thanks to my father having never
throwing anything out, remained with me.  I never liked them at all, and
they were likely bought by someone's parents, thinking that these looked
like the kind of records "the kids might like". Well the kids (at least
myself anyway) were not amused at the time. Here's what they were:

Bruce & The Robin Rockers - Batman
Zero Zero Seven Band - Music from Goldfinger
Various - Groovy Greats ) featuring the likes of Lou Christie, Ray Charles,
and Bobby Goldsboro)

And here's the description of this last record as written on the back cover:
<Today's scene is psychedelic, kinetic and wild, a free swinging world of
mad, mad mod and the big beat takes over au go-go from The Strip to Carnaby
St.  The big names of rock and soul that geared the world for their kind of
action are here, blasting and groovin' for your own freak out! Pow! Zap!>

I discovered these records six or seven years ago, left in the collection in
my parents basement along with the Al Hirt and Herb Alpert records my father
also discarded along with the rest of the family vinyl collection. And they
were, to no surprise, VERY Now Sound!

The conclusion.... I obviously grew into these records, which must mean that
I must be getting old myself, which may then prove that the Now Sound really
was for old (well at least not young) people!  Come to think of it I haven't
converted too many 20 yr olds to like this stuff...  Say, this discussion
may be leading us down a path of discovery we may well not want to follow...

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Subject: (exotica) Is this weird or what!
Date: 06 Sep 2001 23:47:24 -0400


James wrote:
> 11. "Inuit Throat and Harp Songs". field recordings of inuit throat
> singing from the early 70's. beats Radiohead any day. a Great record! but
a little
> pricey (i traded for it).
Yikes! I got this record many years ago from traveller friends who prided
themselves on always trying to find us musical souvenirs to outdo the weird
things we already had  in our record collection (We also got from them the
Polish new wave sensation "Shakin' Dudi").  I always kept Inuit Throat &
Harp Songs as a novelty, but this is the second time I've heard it seems to
be a valuable item! OK I don't expect a forthcoming CD reissue, but then
again with the recent publicity surrounding the Inuit filmmaker that won a
prize at Cannes, who knows! ... Now if we could just hear those same Inuit
Women doing a cover of  say... "Downtown", things could get real weird...

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie/McFarland's In Sound
Date: 06 Sep 2001 23:16:44 -0700




"F. Cobalt" wrote:
>
> Re: Kahimi Karie.  She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris,

Is that so?  I mean the superstar part.  My Japanese wife has never
heard of her; in fact, I hadn't either until we returned to the US last
year.

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Date: 07 Sep 2001 11:36:37 -0400


I wish I could supply more details but can't. I extracted that news snippet from the WFMU Blast O Hot Air newsletter - the same place I pulled the announcement of Pea's upcoming appearance on Irwin's show.

Perhaps someone who actually reads the Post and saw the original article can fill in the blanks.  Oh wait -- there's always the on-line Post...yep, here's the piece:

How J. Lo freaked Mariah

THE blow that sent Mariah Carey to the hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer Lopez had "stolen" part of her song "Loverboy." Carey had sampled "Firecracker" by Japan's Yellow Magic Orchestra when she recorded "Loverboy" six months earlier. But Talk magazine reports that before "Loverboy" was released, J. Lo came out with "Be Real," which used the same "Firecracker" sample. Carey freaked out, convinced that her ex-husband, Sony Music chief Tommy Mottola, had a hand in giving the tracks to Lopez. A source said, "It literally drove her crazy." In June, interviewed by Allure, Carey said Lopez was styled to look like her. And when writer Vanessa Grigoriadis mentioned having met Lopez, Carey hissed, "I bet that was really intellectually stimulating. I bet you could just see the depth in her eyes." As for Lopez's claim that she gets eight hours of sleep a night, Carey snarked, "If I had the luxury of not actually having to sing my own songs, I'd do that!
!
!
 too."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052001/gossip/pagesix.htm


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>
At 02:18 PM 09/06/2001, Lou wrote:
>The NY Post reports that the blow that sent Mariah Carey to the
>hospital in July with a nervous breakdown was learning that Jennifer
>Lopez had laid claim to the same Yellow Magic Orchestra sample that
>she wanted to use.

Pardon me, just can't hold it back...

[insert 5 minutes of cruel laughter]

Please Lou, more details.


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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Song ID.....
Date: 07 Sep 2001 12:44:07 -0400


Okay, there's this song I taped off of WCVT college radio (hey, Bump!) =
years ago.  It's about Norman Bates and sounds like UK New Wave to me.

The chorus goes: My name is Norman Bates - I'm just a normal guy.

At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink =
describes Norman's two personalities.  The song ends with  "Norman Bates =
no longer exists."

Who is this?

Thanx -

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Ronnie Aldrich
Date: 08 Sep 2001 01:04:43 +0800



>anyone know which LP of his has his cover of 'Soulful Strut' on?

It's on Ronnie's 'It's Happening now' unless I'm mistaken.  On of many blatantly 'Now'-titled LPs he did (e.g. 'This way IN').

For some reason, I always find more interesting Phase 4 records here in the US than I ever did in the UK.  The Ronnie Aldrich US releases I have are pretty good; I'm particularly partial to his ludicrous, clunky but strangely addictive version of the Beach Boys's 'Do it again'.

Regarding Norrie Paramor, I have that record 'Shadows go Latin', and it's surprisingly good, quite 'Now-sound'y, but also reminiscent of discotheque records.

cheers,
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From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID.....
Date: 07 Sep 2001 18:00:27 +0100


Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> Okay, there's this song I taped off of WCVT college radio (hey, Bump!) years ago.  It's about Norman Bates and sounds like UK New Wave to me.
>
> The chorus goes: My name is Norman Bates - I'm just a normal guy.
>
> At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink describes Norman's two personalities.  The song ends with  "Norman Bates no longer exists."
>
> Who is this?

Landscape?


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Is this weird or what!
Date: 07 Sep 2001 17:26:49 +0000



re "Inuit Throat and Harp Songs".

Brian wrote: I always kept Inuit Throat &
>Harp Songs as a novelty, but this is the second time I've heard it seems to
>be a valuable item!

well the guy I bought it off of is one of those "if it's weird it must be
valuable types" (maybe he's right), but I'm sure the good majority of record
dealers would sell it cheap or cheapish. but enough about price. to me the
record is beautifully strange stuff, and the circular breathing guttarness
of it makes it sound like some Steve Reich tape-loop recording from the 60's
- but better! inuit art indeed...
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Date: 07 Sep 2001 14:52:25 -0400



james brouwer <[e-mail]> wrote:
> to me the
record is beautifully strange stuff, and the circular breathing guttarness
of it makes it sound like some Steve Reich tape-loop recording from the 60's
- but better! inuit art indeed...
jb
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID.....
Date: 07 Sep 2001 16:04:47 -0400



> > At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink
> describes Norman's two personalities.  The song ends with  "Norman Bates
> no longer exists."
> >
> > Who is this?
>
>Landscape?

Yup, that's it.  My brother dug this song.  If you want it, there are
possibilities at
http://www7.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=7995286&key=56816&field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE&wild=norman+bates




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From: [e-mail] (Bump Stadelman)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Song ID.....
Date: 07 Sep 2001 18:32:53 -0400


yes it was landscape. 1981
i still have that lp.
it has some cool electronic rhythm tracks (especially the title track of
the lp, "From the Tea-Rooms of Mars to the Hell-holes of Uranus" which is a
medley of Beguine, Mambo and Tango electro-percussive tracks i was going to
include a my next new wave exotica comp.)
Norman Bates is the name of the song you mention jeez, i even have the
video i taped off of MTV back in the day. what a dork i am.
Richard James Burgess was in this band and he produced the first couple
Spandau Ballet records.
i think.  what a super-dork i am!
i better go hide in a corner.

bump

>Okay, there's this song I taped off of WCVT college radio (hey, Bump!)
>years ago.  It's about Norman Bates and sounds like UK New Wave to me.
>
>The chorus goes: My name is Norman Bates - I'm just a normal guy.
>
>At the end of the song, they use the outro from Psycho where the shrink
>describes Norman's two personalities.  The song ends with  "Norman Bates
>no longer exists."
>
>Who is this?
>





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Date: 08 Sep 2001 02:03:13 GMT


>
> yes it was landscape. 1981
> i still have that lp.
> it has some cool electronic rhythm tracks (especially the title track of
> the lp, "From the Tea-Rooms of Mars to the Hell-holes of Uranus" which is a
> medley of Beguine, Mambo and Tango electro-percussive tracks i was going to
> include a my next new wave exotica comp.)

This probably shows I'm a young un' compared to some on the list,
but on the subject of new wave exotica, one record which fits
the bill thats a bit of a personal favourite is:
"The Creatures" - "Feast" (1983) (Siouxsie Sioux + Budgie)
Its a very tropical sounding record. (& recorded in Hawaii)

The second record they did, "Boomerang" has quite obvious Spanish inflences.
(& recorded in Spain)

Cheers

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) another animation link
Date: 07 Sep 2001 23:13:57 -0400


Since a few links to animation/video links have been submitted to the
list, I thought I'd add another one of my favorites -- with an exotica
Russian theme to it
(courtesy of Yahoo Net Buzz)

http://www.rathergood.com/vid/

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From: "Dowco" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds!
Date: 07 Sep 2001 23:46:38 -0700


Hi all, back from the hospital and winding down from a rather eventful
couple of days, to say the least... my wife gave birth to a baby boy,
McKinley James, last night, and I'm extremely excited to have someone to
inculcate from birth into the wonderful world of music!

And since I've come home (wife and son are resting comfortably), I've been
chilling out by listening to a couple of my latest finds - S'Continental by
Ray Conniff, and Guantanamera by the Sandpipers - I'm new to the wonderful
world of exotica (and thanks mostly to this list, I've become an avid
listener in the last year or so), so both of these are new to me, and I love
'em...

The Sandpipers - "the now sound?" or do I not have a clue?

I need to get some sleep.  Suggestions for kid's music will be greatly
appreciated, and I guess I just feel like telling everyone about what has
turned into the most awesome day of my life!

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From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist "Martinis with Mancini"
Date: 08 Sep 2001 10:26:19 -0400


Someone called up and requested "But I was Cool" by Oscar Brown Jr.  I have
a copy of the '74 funk version. She's showing up next week with a "Hawaiian"
comp that she and her husband put together for me. First time since I
started doing the show 2 ╜ years ago I'm getting music from a listener so I'
m psyched.

Domenic Ciccone
"Martinis with Mancini" WJUL Lowell 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST
http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/
http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio)

Playlist
September 7, 2001
Martinis With Mancini

Got in early and played ╜ of "Somewhere in this Town" the CD by Seks Bomba
Brief And Breezy, Henry Mancini<Br>
Pussy Cat, Cy Coleman
Johnny One Note, Blossom Dearie
Skylark, Tak Shindo
Mambo Erroll, Erroll Gardner
Sex Without Bodies, Dave's True Story
Tune From Rangoon, Martin Denny
Kansas City, Mark Murphy
Kiss Me Honey Honey Kiss Me, Shirley Bassey
The Elegant Venus, Leroy Holmes
Bombasteroid, Four Piece Suit
Zebra, Les Baxter
Park River, Les Baxter
Early Autumn, King Sisters
Nature Box, Robert Maxwell
Intoxica, The Revelaires
September Song, Nina Simone
The Girl Grom Ipanema, Vince Guaraldi And Bola Sete
Autumn Leaves, The Three Suns
Doncia Go Away Mad, Rosemary Clooney And The Hi Lo's
Strange Music, Robert Maxwell
On The Street Where You Live, Enoch Light
Please Don't Talk About Me When I'm Gone, Sammy Davis Jr.
Love Your Spell Is Everywhere
Quiet Nights And Quiet Stars, Frank Sinatra
Latin Snowfall, Henry Mancini
It's Allright With Me, Dean Elliott
The Lively Ones, Mel Henke
Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Esquivel
But I Was Cool, Oscar Brown Jr.
A Banda (Parade), Astrud Gilberto
I Hate Parades, Cocktail Angst
Abigail, Piero Piccioni
Sim Sim, Arthur Lyman
Dinner For A Pack Of Hunry Cannibals, Dave Harris And The Power House Five
There'll Be No Next Time, Sam Butera/Louie Prima
Hernando's Hideaway, Sid Ramin
People Will Say Were In Love, Bob Thompson
Frensi, Billy May
African Voodoo, Iron Wood
Comic Strip, Serge Gainsbourg
Satisfaction, Zacharias
I Married An Angel, Hi-Lo's
When My Sugar Goes Down The Street, Kirby Stone Four
Instanbul (Not Constantinople) Joe Fingers Carr/80 Drums Around The World
Lillions Lust,  O.S.T. Bedazzled
Daytripper, Nancy Sinatra
Bill Cosby Talks To Kids About Drugs
Disadvantages Of You, Brass Ring
Getting Sentimental Over You, Herb Albert
Go Go Sitar, Kahuna Kawentzmann
Exactly Like You, Steve Lawrence
Whistler On The Rocks, Eric Vandell
Tequila, Warren Kime
Je Change Rais D'avis, Francoisee Hardy
Millionaire, O.S.T. Bedazzled
Winnie The Pooh, Louie Prima And Friends
Sweet Cinnamon Punch, Tipsy
Hi-Fi- Trumpet, Stereo Action Unlimited
The Lonely Bull, The Ventures
Moon River, Henry Mancini


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From: "william" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re: kahimi
Date: 08 Sep 2001 23:55:27 +0800


>> Re: Kahimi Karie.  She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris,

>Is that so?  I mean the superstar part.  My Japanese wife has never
>heard of her; in fact, I hadn't either until we returned to the US last
>year.
>
>- --cm

    my japanese friends in japan not into this sort of music  didn't seem to
really know who she was either. and when i mentioned cornelius they laughed
and said he is better known in the west than in japan. i suspect that kahimi
karie's western labels promote her by saying she is a superstar in japan.
but i suspect namie amuro, chage & aska(sp?), and misora hibari are probably
wider known in japan.

   incidentally, the track "wo qui non  coin" on the cowboy bebop blue ost
makes me think quite a bit of kahimi karie. though its someone named aoi
tada. i don't know who she is though.

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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds!
Date: 08 Sep 2001 14:52:14 -0400


At 11:46 PM 9/7/01 -0700, Dowco wrote:
>
.>
>And since I've come home (wife and son are resting comfortably), I've been
>chilling out by listening to a couple of my latest finds - S'Continental by
>Ray Conniff, and Guantanamera by the Sandpipers - .

Congratulations on your new arrival.  And on the baby too.
No, the Sandpipers isn't Now Sound but it sort of qualifies as "soft pop".
And all the Ray Conniff records that start with "S'" are pretty good
classic "lounge" music.  Swinging, swanky, slick.  Those Singers of his
were groovy as long as they were harmonizing wordlessly.  But beware his
later records of the sixties where they just sang the words in unison.
Then again, I could see Conniff records from the latter categoy - like
"Happiness Is" - for instance, qualifying as children's records.  A
sophisticated version of Barney you might say.
Congratulations again.
It's not often these new arrivals lists make me this jealous.

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From: crymad <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: kahimi
Date: 08 Sep 2001 12:00:26 -0700




william wrote:
>
> >> Re: Kahimi Karie.  She's considered a superstar in Japan, lives in Paris,
>
> >Is that so?  I mean the superstar part.  My Japanese wife has never
> >heard of her; in fact, I hadn't either until we returned to the US last
> >year.
> >
> >- --cm
>
>     my japanese friends in japan not into this sort of music  didn't seem to
> really know who she was either. and when i mentioned cornelius they laughed
> and said he is better known in the west than in japan. i suspect that kahimi
> karie's western labels promote her by saying she is a superstar in japan.

And Occidental favorites Pizzicato 5 could be included in this group as
well -- like round paper lanterns, mostly export items.

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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Images on Google
Date: 08 Sep 2001 21:46:09 +0200


Just noticed this: www.google.com/images

Ideal for illustrating your tape en CD compilations.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) New album by Mo' Horizons, Brasil & Sitar
Date: 08 Sep 2001 22:14:21 +0200 (MEST)


For those who are into that new fantastic schema brasil stuff:
On the new Mo Horizons Album (on Stereo Deluxe rec. www.stereodeluxe.com)
are two great brasil tunes, that sounds like they came from schema called Quase
Nada and Bosshanover. The sitar track is also nice (not as good as
explorations by the karminskys, but still worth to play it from time to time

Martin

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From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Images on Google
Date: 08 Sep 2001 17:35:24 -0400


it's true, it's a fantastic search engine.  For a while there, if you use=
d
"PAIN" as a search parameter, you were met in short order with a thumbnai=
l of
my grizzly looking cat.  She's a real uggo.

Arjan Plug wrote:

> Just noticed this: www.google.com/images
>
> Ideal for illustrating your tape en CD compilations.
>
> Arjan

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From: James Botticelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds!
Date: 08 Sep 2001 17:41:50 -0400


on 9/8/01 2:52 PM, alan  zweig at [e-mail] wrote:

> Ray Conniff records that start with "S'" are pretty good
> classic "lounge" music.  Swinging, swanky, slick.

A cut above them IMHO is The Johnny Mann Singers whose material is better
selected from the 2001 perspective. Who else did "Heart Full of Soul" and
several other groovy covers hitherto untouched by the likes of Ray Conniff
who's sort of now-lounge sound was good on a couple-a two three LP's. If
anyone's interested I'll track the cuts for the list.

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From: bigshot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Transformation
Date: 08 Sep 2001 22:34:18 -0700


>Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 22:31:33 -0400
>From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: ghetto-ized pop music
>
>But I have to assume that once upon a time, there was someone who thought
>just about any artist you can name, was just imitating - not transforming -
>some previous artist. I'm sure you'll disagree.

Yep. No one ever said that there was anything like Bix, Duke, Louis
Armstrong or Elvis before them. They were one-of-a-kind then, and
they are one-of-a-kind now. Read contemporary comments and accounts
of their playing. You won't find anything to support your assumption.

All you have to do is to listen to popular music from the teens, twenties,
thirties, forties and fifties. Compare the decades and you will hear
totally different music. Music developed and transformed rapidly in
those decades. Since 1970, the only transformations have been variations
on the same theme. The progression of the past three decades has been
more technological than musical.

Choose a typical song from 1971 and a typical song from 2001. Listen
to the two of them. Now choose a typical song from 1911 and compare
it to a song from 1941. I guarantee you that the older songs will be
light years apart compared to the more current ones.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Transformation
Date: 09 Sep 2001 03:16:38 -0400


At 10:34 PM 9/8/01 -0700, bigshot wrote:
.>
>Yep. No one ever said that there was anything like Bix, Duke, Louis
>Armstrong or Elvis before them. They were one-of-a-kind then, and
>they are one-of-a-kind now. Read contemporary comments and accounts
>of their playing. You won't find anything to support your assumption.

I went through a period of listening to a lot of "modern jazz".  When I was
right in the middle of it, Coltrane's playing and Dexter Gordon and Sonny
Rollins and Eric Dolphy for sure and Pharoah Sanders all played in a
distinctively different style.  And I would still argue that way if I were
around jazz listeners. On the other hand, if a casual jazz fan told me "It
all kind of sounds the same to me", I wouldn't argue with them.  Because it
is kind of all the same unless you're standing really close to it. The
people who talk about the utter originality of those musicians you name
are, in my opinion, standing too close.  And I don't care if the accounts
don't back me up.
Just like you wouldn't care if I hauled out some contemporary rock critic
who wanted to tell you how Wilco had utterly transformed the country rock
of Gram Parsons who utterly transformed the country music of the Louvin
Brothers.
To you it might all sound basically the same.
To him, standing as close as he is, the differences are huge.

In that argument, if I had to choose between you and him, I hope you would
make it easier for me, come clean and just admit that you really don't
listen to much contemporary music besides what you catch on the radio.
If not, I would harken back to your comment virtually equating the Stray
Cats and R.E.M. and I'd have to give him the point.

You know a lot about old music.  Congratulations.
Personally I listen to music from the twenties to the present but I almost
never think about who transformed the music and who simply perfected it,
when I make my musical choices.
I prefer Blind Willie Johnson to Robert Johnson.  I don't care who
supposedly transformed it.
I like Coltrane much more than Ornette Coleman though jazz critics
generally give Coleman the nod for transforming things.
In fact I even prefer Alice Coltrane to Ornette.  I just like her records a
lot.
To me it's just as significant if an artist makes the music utterly his own
- as I believe Coltrane did - as when an artist supposedly transforms the
medium.

Just in case you choose to continue this, can you answer me two questions?
One, what is a typical song?  You argued about how the typical songs
between 1911 and 1941 changed more than between 1971 and the present?
Would a typical song today be hiphop or alternate rock or so-called world
music or Britney Spears?

And the second question: Assuming more "transformations" occurred in the
first part of the twentieth century than the last, does that mean the music
is "better"?

Thanks and See ya.

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From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop,  September 9
Date: 09 Sep 2001 11:19:14 -0400


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #159    Around The World In 60 Minutes

This week, we're playing most of a compilation put together by Moritz,
called "Around The World In 60 Minutes".  It's a taste of music from all
over the place, but we still don't have all the track information...  So if
any listeners have any more info for us, we'd appreciate knowing more about
who and what we're playing!

Annette:  Hukilau
?:  Insh-A-Allah
?:  Take Me Back To Cairo
Frankie Laine:  On The Nile

?:  Bole Bole
Abrete Sesamo!:  ?
Hugo Del Carril:  India

Mongo Santamaria:  ?
Mongo Santamaria:  ?

?(Kenya): ?
?(Kenya):  Mathilda & Nathalie
?(Kenya):  ?

Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening

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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) off-topic tech horror
Date: 09 Sep 2001 21:28:57 -0400


Begging pardon, but horrible new legislation regarding computers (and
digital technology in general) is cooking in the US Congress.

Brief piece from Wired:
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46655,00.html

Extensive report including full draft:
http://www.politechbot.com/docs/hollings.090701.html

I won't summarize, it's too depressing. Just check it out, if you wish.

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Subject: (exotica) Paul Page covers missing etc
Date: 10 Sep 2001 03:51:56 +0200 (MEST)


Hello,

I am just make a cdr from a tape with two Paul Page LPs (Thanks Mo ! are you
lurking ?). But I miss some titles that are not listed on the tape.

With the first everything seems to be ok:

Paul Page (and the Island-Aires): LP Pieces Of Eight

1 China Nights
2 When Sam Goes Back To Samoa
3 Beyond The Reef
4 The Reef Is Calling
5 Matey
6 Pieces Of Eight
7 Ports OÆCall
8 My Fiji Island Queen
9 LetÆs Have A Luau
10 Castaway
11 Sweet Someone
12 Bali Hai
13 Maui Chimes
14 Chicken Kona Kai
Pacific Farewell Medley:
  15 Now Is The Hour (Maoro)
  16 Phillipine Farell
  17 Sayonara
  18 E Maururu A Vai
  19 Aloha Oe


but here I miss the info for the first 4 tracks. Some names are maybe wrong
as I could not read the writing on the tape clearly

Paul Page: LP Passport To Paradise (rec. in Hawaii)

1 ? vocal
2 ? vocal
3 ? vocal
4 ? instrumental
5 Passport To Paradise
6 Kissy Ling
7 Phillipine Farewell (Voc. Stivi Gonzalez)
8 Tahitian Love Song
9 Maori Love Song (Voc. Irene Chim (?))
10 Matey (same version as on Pieces Of Eight)
11 Big Luau In The Sky
12 Pago Pago (Voc. Stivi Gonzalez)
13 Pagoda Bells
14 When The Ice Breaks
15 Ala Wai Blues
16 My Fiji Island Queen (same version as on Pieces Of Eight)

I also don't know the record labels and there date. Of course I would love
to see the original record covers. So if someone has them as as jpegs or so,
and can send them simple to me I would be very happy as I could use them for
the cdr cover.

thanks a lot for help

Martin

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From: Peter Ledebur <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase Four
Date: 09 Sep 2001 22:49:39 -0400


James Botticelli <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>A used record shop here in Cambridge is named after Phase Four and he has
a
>pretty groovy tee-shirt as well. It simply says "Phase Four' in swirling
>psychedelic lettering. He loves the label he says, but he'll sell anything
>that sells...His two 'new arrivals' bins usually contain some tasty items.
>He's one of those guys who charges $3.50 for a rekkid instead of most of
the
>dealers around here who charge $3.99...And so it goes

Rich is a truly swell guy. He led a great band ('Bald Guys - RIP) and has
done tons of smashing cover art for various bands (highest profile: Brian
Setzer's comeback hit album "The Dirty Boogie"). He also co-hosts the
groovy Pandora's Box (where I have guest DJ'd) -- recently re-located to An
Tua Nua in Boston.

Dig his web at:  http://www.project3.com/


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Subject: RV: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds!
Date: 09 Sep 2001 22:12:00 -0700





 Thanks for the congrats, Alan. I haven't tried the later Ray Conniff albums
 (my wife likes them, I really haven't given them a go), but I did test
play> "Living Strings play Monkees' Hits, Living Marimbas' "Love is Blue"
and Earl> Grant's "A Time for Us"... all of them worked equally well on the
kiddo (he> was asleep and not overly concerned with the background music),
but I've got> some comments

 Mary, Mary, I'm A Believer, and Last Train to Clarksville are great tracks
 from the Living Strings album. Very cool arrangements, strangely enough
 reminding me of some of the things Brian Wilson did with Pet Sounds and the
 Smile Sessions - I like this record a lot!

 Earl Grant almost put me to sleep, for the most part, although there are a
 few moments when he seemingly accidentally breaks out in a funky few
seconds
 in the middle of "Aquarius" that surprised me.

As for the Living Marimbas album, the Mission Impossible Theme and the Good,
Bad and the Ugly are standout cuts for me - I like this album a lot as
well - just noticed that Leo Addeo arranged and conducted it. My only wish
would be that the marimbas be a bit further to the front of the mix, but
other than that, this is a great collection of songs.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Paul Page covers missing etc
Date: 10 Sep 2001 00:15:30 -0700


[e-mail] wrote:
> Paul Page (and the Island-Aires): LP Pieces Of Eight

What kind of music is this? Sounds intriquing.

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Subject: (exotica) bedazzled OST sighting
Date: 10 Sep 2001 13:24:18 +0100


I see Intoxica have the Bedazzled OST listed (The Dudley Moore one that =
is)
on vinyl which gets a big grin from me:
http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/list.htm
Including a version with Glitter on the sleeve!  And at a good price, =
too.

Needless to say I ordered mine before telling you lot.... :=AC>


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Date: 10 Sep 2001 15:34:58 +0100


http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/list.htm
Including a version with Glitter on the sleeve!  And at a good price, too.

That's the 18 month old Harkit bootleg I believe. A nice pressing but I
don't think much of the artwork is original. Anybody know?


Charlie

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Subject: (exotica) [obit] Daniel Adrian Carlin
Date: 10 Sep 2001 11:17:36 -0400


http://attorney.carlin.net/music.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&imgsafe=off&safe=off&q=%22segue+music%22+carlin
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LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Daniel Adrian Carlin, an Emmy-winning music editor who worked with soundtrack composers Lalo Schifrin and Ennio Morricone, died Aug. 14 of complications from lung cancer and pulmonary fibrosis. He was 73.

Carlin edited the music for ``Scorpio,'' ``The Outlaw Josey Wales,'' ``Ghost,'' ``Gorillas in the Mist,'' ``Dead Poets Society'' and ``Cliffhanger.'' He won a music-editing Emmy in 1987 for his work on the miniseries ``Unnatural Causes.''

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Date: 10 Sep 2001 12:36:53 -0400


I am not convinced that the current Harkit "Bedazled" is really a
bootleg, although I have variously heard that Dudley Moore owns
the copyrights in the recorded works exclusively, number one;
and that Harkit is now in new hands and is more than a bootleg
label, number two.

I can tell you that the artwork on the Harkit does not appear to be
bootleg (as in, shot from an album cover); I can also tell you that
the release comes with some good notes which include a real
live address for Harkit, and the names of those who mastered
the release.  This is where it became odd for me personally.

The names of those credited with the mastering job are Freek
Kinkelaar and Raymond Steeg.  I know both these people.  They
are, variously, neighbors and sound techs for the Dutch & British
band Legendary Pink Dots.  Freek (pronouced FRAYK) has a
sound collage project called Beequeen which usually distributes
its CDs through Staalplaat Distribution.  Steeg is an experienced
and creative sound engineer who has also mixed Hawkwind on
some recent tours.  How the two of them came to this Harkit
project, however, I have no idea.
So while I don't claim to understand the whole background of the
current Harkit "Bedazzled" OST, I can tell you that Steeg and
Kinkelaar are not the sort of people I would associate with
bootleg projects.
Hope that helps a bit !

Charles Moseley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/list.htm
Including a version with Glitter on the sleeve!  And at a good
price, too.

That's the 18 month old Harkit bootleg I believe. A nice pressing
but I
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Date: 10 Sep 2001 12:39:32 -0400


I am not convinced that the current Harkit "Bedazled" is really a
bootleg, although I have variously heard that Dudley Moore owns
the copyrights in the recorded works exclusively, number one;
and that Harkit is now in new hands and is more than a bootleg
label, number two.

I can tell you that the artwork on the Harkit does not appear to be
bootleg (as in, shot from an album cover); I can also tell you that
the release comes with some good notes which include a real
live address for Harkit, and the names of those who mastered
the release.  This is where it became odd for me personally.

The names of those credited with the mastering job are Freek
Kinkelaar and Raymond Steeg.  I know both these people.  They
are, variously, neighbors and sound techs for the Dutch & British
band Legendary Pink Dots.  Freek (pronouced FRAYK) has a
sound collage project called Beequeen which usually distributes
its CDs through Staalplaat Distribution.  Steeg is an experienced
and creative sound engineer who has also mixed Hawkwind on
some recent tours.  How the two of them came to this Harkit
project, however, I have no idea.
So while I don't claim to understand the whole background of the
current Harkit "Bedazzled" OST, I can tell you that Steeg and
Kinkelaar are not the sort of people I would associate with
bootleg projects.
Hope that helps a bit !

Charles Moseley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/list.htm
Including a version with Glitter on the sleeve!  And at a good
price, too.

That's the 18 month old Harkit bootleg I believe. A nice pressing
but I
don't think much of the artwork is original. Anybody know?


Charlie

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop,  September 9
Date: 10 Sep 2001 20:20:14 +0000


Inch Allah= probably ADAMO
Take me Back To Cairo=Karim Shukry (I have 3 45s by him)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds!
Date: 10 Sep 2001 14:14:54 EDT



>=20
> A cut above them IMHO is The Johnny Mann Singers whose material =
is better
> selected from the 2001 perspective. Who else did "Heart Full of =
Soul" and
> several other groovy covers hitherto untouched by the likes of =
Ray Conniff
> who's sort of now-lounge sound was good on a couple-a two three =
LP's. If
> anyone's interested I'll track the cuts for the list.

Which Johnny Mann albums would you rate most highly, James?  I've =
got two of the joint projects with Si Zentner that I think are =
excellent, but I was dubious about the JMS albums by themselves, =
figuring they were probably like the later Ray Conniff Singers that =
AZ described.=20
    And by the way, while we're on the topic of vocal groups, I've =
heard Alan wax eloquent about Anita Kerr on many occasions.  Would =
you say, Alan, that almost all of her group's albums are good?  =
I've got "We Dig Mancini," which I like a lot, but, again, fearful =
of the straightforward unison singing of the Conniff Singers, I've =
avoided other albums.  I'm also beginning to rethink--somewhat--the =
Ray Charles Singers.  I've had the album with "Music to Watch Girls =
By" for a long time, and I agree with the Space Age Pop Music page =
that that's THE version of that tune.  But only recently did I =
listen to the other songs on the album, and, frankly, I was knocked =
out by "Big Beautiful Ball."   Any recommendations?
    By the way, hearty congrats to Jim on the new addition.  My =
kids have both liked the Ray Conniff stuff, so it's not a bad place =
to start if you ask me.  And to be honest, my first daughter used =
to really like Esquivel.  (She didn't necessarily stop, it's just =
that, as my collection grew, I quit playing Esq. as much.)  Some =
good Cha-cha music seems to go over well, too.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) a new addition, and some finds!
Date: 10 Sep 2001 16:44:46 -0400


on 9/10/01 2:14 PM, Clayton Black at [e-mail] wrote:

> Which Johnny Mann albums would you rate most highly, James?  I've got two of
> the joint projects with Si Zentner that I think are excellent, but I was
> dubious about the JMS albums by themselves, figuring they were probably like
> the later Ray Conniff Singers that AZ described.

I thought the same, and maybe they bear a strong resemblance, but there are
three that I like more than any Ray Conniff LP I've come into.

1. LP ROSES & RAINBOWS:  Yes I'm Ready/Summer Wind/Theme From A Summer
Place/Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me/Unchained Melody/Roses & Rainbows/Heart Full
of Soul/Save Your Heart For Me/Cara Mia/Houston/What The World Needs Now

2. LP DON'T LOOK BACK: Don't Look Back/Never My Love/Rainbows/Land Of
Love/Come Softly To Me/To Sir With Love/Instant Happy/Windy/The Singing Bird
Will Come/Love Of The Common People

3. LP WE CAN FLY!: Up Up and Away/Somethin' Stupid/I Got Rhythm/Portrait of
My Love/Go Where You Wanna Go/Dedicated To The One I Love/Yellow
Balloon/This Is My Song/Monday Monday/Release Me/Joey is My Name

As the titles indicate, many selections they cover are already soft rock/pop
favorites or mellow soul gems. The titles IMHO are a cut above the common
selections of most of the mid-late 6T's groups of the Johnny Mann variety
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Subject: (exotica) singers and choirs
Date: 10 Sep 2001 23:22:05 -0400


At 02:14 PM 9/10/01 EDT, Clayton Black wrote:
.
>    And by the way, while we're on the topic of vocal groups, I've heard
Alan wax eloquent about Anita Kerr on many occasions.  Would you say, Alan,
that almost all of her group's albums are good?

I've owned some mediocre ones but I would say probably most of her records
are pretty good.  And the reason is that unlike say the later Ray Conniff
singers, she actually arranges the vocals.  There are harmonies.  This may
be because as far as I can tell, there are only four of them.
Some of her records even rise to the level of soft pop.  Which might be
considered a fall in the eyes of some, I suppose.
As far as the Johnny Mann singers go, I agree that they're above average.
But not for the same factors that "elevate" Anita.
I like Johnny Mann because the vocals are usually soft and quiet  Even
mellow..  I'm not sure there's much harmony going on but in a sense, what I
like about these records is the absence of the things that usually bother
me with these records.  The annoying enthusiasm.  The resemblance to your
worst high school choir nightmares.  The Up With People factor.

> I'm also beginning to rethink--somewhat--the Ray Charles Singers.  I've
had the album with "Music to Watch Girls By" for a long time, and I agree
with the Space Age Pop Music page that that's THE version of that tune.
But only recently did I listen to the other songs on the album, and,
frankly, I was knocked out by "Big Beautiful Ball."   Any recommendations?

I recommend you rethink your rethinking.
I'm not saying they don't do justice to the odd tune.  I have some
"affection" for their version of McArthur Park.
And far be it from me to cast aspersions on anyone's taste, especially when
this entire area of music we're discussing here is so.... uh... questionable.
You know, when you're debating whose interpretation of Dylan you prefer,
the Doodletown Pipers or the Living Voices, it's a bit late to talk about
taste.
Having said all that, I think the Ray Charles Singers as well as the Enoch
Light Singers - except their version of "Hello I love you" - basically suck
and the Percy Faith singers are not much better (even though Percy is
brilliant) and in fact almost all the groups with Singers at the end or
their name, sucked in the sixties.
If you want to buy that kind of stuff from the sixties, I say try the
Lettermen.  And of course the Sandpipers.  And the Primo People if you can
find them.
Having said that, the Johnny Mann singers do kind of blow a hole in my
theory.  So you have to check for yourself I guess.
Some other exceptions to the rule I've found are The Art Gallery", "the New
Generation" and well above average are "The New Classic Singers" and "The
Midas Touch".

Oh by the way my favorite Anita records were, I think, "Sounds" and "All
you need is love".

(I put all this stuff on CDR.  I don't have the records anymore.)

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Subject: (exotica) DJ session - "In Hi-Fi" in NYC this Thursday
Date: 11 Sep 2001 12:26:21 +0800


Hi,

On Thursday (September 13th), I will be the guest DJ this month at the "In Hi-Fi" party at Bar d'O in NYC (it's on the corner of Bedford and Downing Streets, close to Houston and 6th Avenue in the West Village).  There is no cover.

I will be on from 10 until 11.30pm (as 'DJ Psychedelicado'), spinning "a scintillating mix of cinematic easy listening, pop, and Brazilian sounds from the late 60s and early 70s."  Also spinning are the excellent regular DJs (and former listees), Anita 'The Meat Mistress' Serwacki, Jack Fetterman and Scott Springer.

More info is available here:
http://www.inhi-fi.com/bar_do/schedule-2001.htm

and there's a flyer here:
http://www.psychedelicado.com/images/inhififlyer.jpg

It would be great to see some exotica-listers there, so if you're in the area, please come along.

Sorry for the intrusion,

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From: bigshot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Transformation
Date: 10 Sep 2001 23:41:25 -0700


>Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 03:16:38 -0400
>From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Transformation
>
>I went through a period of listening to a lot of "modern jazz".  When I was
>right in the middle of it, Coltrane's playing and Dexter Gordon and Sonny
>Rollins and Eric Dolphy for sure and Pharoah Sanders all played in a
>distinctively different style.  And I would still argue that way if I were
>around jazz listeners. On the other hand, if a casual jazz fan told me "It
>all kind of sounds the same to me", I wouldn't argue with them.

Music is a language. To be able to understand it, you have to immerse
yourself in it. Often the people who say "It all sounds the same."
are the ones who haven't gotten the experience to understand what they
are hearing. That is particularly true of Modern Jazz. It is a much
more complex and inaccessable language than swing or trad jazz.

>In that argument, if I had to choose between you and him, I hope you would
>make it easier for me, come clean and just admit that you really don't
>listen to much contemporary music besides what you catch on the radio.

Actually, I do hear contemporary music. I work alongside a lot
of artists who listen to all kinds of current music. They share
new stuff with me, and I share old stuff with them. I grew up
through the late sixties through the eighties, so I know that
music. I probably don't hear bother with mainstream contemporary
music anymore, but I don't know if I'm missing too much there. But
you are right that I know a lot more about the music from the
past than I do music of the past twenty years.

>One, what is a typical song?  You argued about how the typical songs
>between 1911 and 1941 changed more than between 1971 and the present?

Well, I can easily point to typical songs from the first half of
the century. In chronological order...

Alma Gluck's "Carry Me Back To Old Virginny", Billy Murray's "In My
Merry Oldsmobile", Bennie Krueger's "Yes! We Have No Bananas", Isham
Jones' "The Sheik of Araby", Louis Armstrong's "Muskrat Ramble",
Duke Ellington's "East St. Louis Toodle-Oo", Bennie Goodman's
"Swing, Swing, Swing", Count Basie's "Jumpin At The Woodside", Glenn
Miller's "In The Mood", Woody Herman's "Woodchopper's Ball"...

All of those songs were strong sellers and would have been
familiar to people living through that time. They are
representative of the typical popular music of the day and
show a progression of constant change and development.

Now, take Alma Gluck's Carry Me Back To Old Virginny and compare
it to Glenn Miller's "In The Mood" which came just about thirty
years later. They are light years apart.

>Would a typical song today be hiphop or alternate rock or so-called
>world music or Britney Spears?

Well, you might be better than me at selecting a list of songs
that chart the mainstream of music from 1970 to today. But here is
my stab at it...

The Beatles "Get Back", Black Sabbath "Iron Man", Deep Purple
"Smoke On The Water", Led Zeppelin "Stairway To Heaven", Alice
Cooper "Schools Out" Elton John "Saturday Night's All Right For
Fighting", BeeGees "Stayin' Alive", Joan Jett "I Love Rock N Roll"
Blondie "Call Me", Pretenders "Brass In Pocket" Michael Jackson
"Bad", The Clash "London Calling", Talking Heads "Burning Down
The House", Van Halen "Jump", Madonna "Like A Virgin", George
Michael? Phil Collins? Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit" NSync?
Britney Spears? I get spotty on this end of things...

Feel free to fill in the blanks... But is "Smells Like Teen
Spirit" really *that* different from "Get Back"?

>And the second question: Assuming more "transformations" occurred in the
>first part of the twentieth century than the last, does that mean the music
>is "better"?

I am usually more interested in dynamic periods of change than I
am static ones.

Again, my point isn't necessarily old is good and new is bad.
I know there is good contemporary music. What I am saying is,
in the first half of the 20th century, popular music was a like a
locomotive constantly driving forward, growing, expanding
and changing. In the second half, it began travelling in circles.
Music has fragmented into niches. You don't have the common
melting pot of different styles merging into something completely
new like you did in the past.

Instead of the innovation driving the mainstream, the lowest
common denominator is at the wheel. That can't be a good
thing for music as a whole.

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Transformation
Date: 11 Sep 2001 11:55:46


Stephen, I disagree with your list of 'typical' songs, and I disagree with
your point of music sounding more alike now than before. Music from
different genres will no longer contain similar sonic elements. Irish Trad
music from now contains no elements with any similarity to, say drum'n'bass,
which would usually have absolutely no sound elements of any similarity to
deep house. Irish trad recorded in New York in the 1920s usually had the
abomination of a piano playing along with it, so did arias by popular
tenors, so did Jelly Roll Morton...

Many genres do share sound elements recontextualised, and I would (and have
on this list before) arguue that the prevelance of the so called 'hot mix'
style used to bland everything down for FM radio and CDs flattens the
diversity within popular genres, the difference between them is far, far
greater now than at any time in the history of music. And most particularly
in the history of recorded music.
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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) singers and choirs
Date: 11 Sep 2001 09:49:08 -0400


Alan wrote:

"You know, when you're debating whose interpretation of Dylan you prefer,
the Doodletown Pipers or the Living Voices, it's a bit late to talk about
taste."

That should go in one of those book compilations of Great Quotes.

Will

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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Transformation
Date: 11 Sep 2001 11:52:46 -0400


At 11:41 PM 9/10/01 -0700, bigshot wrote:
>
>Music is a language. To be able to understand it, you have to immerse
>yourself in it. Often the people who say "It all sounds the same."
>are the ones who haven't gotten the experience to understand what they
>are hearing.

Yeah and sometimes the child says the emperor has no clothes.

I'm interested in certain "changes" in the history of American music in
this century.  For instance the ways in which rural white music and black
music were once very similar - even indistinguishable - but eventually
diverged into country music and blues.  This is well documented in a number
of compilations including one I highly recommend called "White Country Blues".
So I enjoy the concepts of transformation.
On the other hand, the vast majority of vocal music I listen to has verses,
choruses and bridges.  And most of it concerns a man singing about a woman
who left him.
This is way too big a topic for me.
Most of the music I listen to - with the exception of electronica -
probably hasn't "transformed" or mutated too much in the last thirty years.
 There've been developments but not huge changes.  Which probably explains
why today's young music fanatics can go back to the music of the sixties
and seventies and find so much music that relates to their present tastes.
On the other hand, there has been a huge transformation, I think, in the
RANGE of music people listen to.  It's my impression that in the first half
of the century, music listeners consumed a fairly narrow range of music.
Narrow in terms of genre but especially in terms of "period".  They
listened to the music of their era and that's about it.
These days a lot of hungry music consumers go from alternative rock to
reissues of Miles Davis "In a Silent Way" to the Blind Willie Johnson
reissue the guy at the record store recommended to the Martin Denny record
their Dad had to hiphop to Scott Walker to the Tony Bennett record they
bought because the guy at the used record store said Tony was a big
influence on Scott.
And if this is what listeners are doing, it makes me confident that music
is being transformed, as we speak, in ways that would have been impossible
in the early part of this century.
Not that I care.
Because there's always new music.  New to me.  It could be a hundred years
old but if I've never heard it, it's new.
And that's all I care about.  Occasionally finding something new.

AZ



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Subject: Subject: Re: (exotica) Paul Page covers missing etc
Date: 11 Sep 2001 18:54:40 +0200 (MEST)


Kevin Crossman asks:
What kind of music is this? Sounds intriquing.


in the exotica-digest      Wednesday, February 21 2001      Volume 02 :
Number 898, he was the subject of some posts.

Tipsydave did send this great link:

Check out this article from the WFMU (America's greatest radio station)
program guide archive for the complete Paul Page story...
http://www.wfmu.org/LCD/18/ppage.html
-dave

Mo did say:
Exotica with vocals, a Beachcomber type of guy and he virtuosly plays on the
keyboa=
rd of all imaginable Hawaiian clich=E9es, but great. Rock-A-Hula-Baby, sa=
ilor romanticism, slide guitar et al...

I call it hawaii pop. Not exotica like baxter or denny, but of course
exotic, as hawaiian music is general exotic for me


Martin
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Subject: (exotica) playing records without records ?
Date: 11 Sep 2001 18:59:31 +0200 (MEST)


playing records without records ?

the new dj revolution ?

no more need to carry all the heavy records around ?



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Subject: (exotica) Tony Motolla- Warm, Wild, and Wonderful find
Date: 11 Sep 2001 13:36:30 EDT


    Greetings- I was in NYC last weekend and saw one of those guys who prop
up books and records for sale against the sides of buildings. He had a great
looking album which turned out to be Tony Motolla and the Groovies- Warm,
Wild, and Wonderful. I was not familiar with him, but the mention of 'Now
Sound' and 'Enoch Light' on the cover sold me. It's in perfect condition and
only cost me $5. As I currently don't have a record player, could anyone tell
me anything about the record or possibly even review it for me? thanks
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Transformation
Date: 11 Sep 2001 22:40:06 -0400


Bigshot wrote:

> Since 1970, the only transformations have been variations
> on the same theme. The progression of the past three decades has been
> more technological than musical. Choose a typical song from 1971 and a
typical
> song from 2001. Listen to the two of them. Now choose a typical song from
1911 > and compare it to a song from 1941. I guarantee you that the older
songs will be
> light years apart compared to the more current ones.
Are we back to this one yet again!!! Steve, you have said all this before
and I'm sure I was among the many respondents that seemed to be less able to
describe in mere words exaclty what constitutes "good" music! In short I
would never, or could I ever expect to say with any conviction, that a
particular piece of music from period x is always better than one from
period y. I think that is why we all have ears and brains, so we can make
those judgements for ourselves based on something called personal
preference. Its a bit condescending what you say here, but since you've said
it before and will most probably say it again, I'll stop here and not waste
any more of all of our time.  Today is already a sad enough day for the
world...

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Tony Motolla- Warm, Wild, and Wonderful find
Date: 12 Sep 2001 03:35:30 -0400


At 01:36 PM 9/11/01 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>    Greetings- I was in NYC last weekend and saw one of those guys who prop
>up books and records for sale against the sides of buildings. He had a great
>looking album which turned out to be Tony Motolla and the Groovies- Warm,
>Wild, and Wonderful.

The Groovies are essentially the band, The Free Design.  If you know
anything about them, you'll know why I say that this is a great record.
The Groovies sing really interesting background vocals.  It's a very unique
mix.  (And they cover a Free Design tune while they're at it.)  This is
easily my favorite Tony Mottola record.  And as far as the Now Sound goes,
I would say Tony Mottola usually only qualifies just barely but this record
is as Now as you can get.

(condolences to anyone who knew anyone who died today)

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Subject: (exotica) Manhattan Research on Vinyl
Date: 12 Sep 2001 10:42:19 +0100


I finally got a copy of the vinyl 3LP set of Raymond Scotts Manhattan
Research Project recordings that was released by Basta on CD last year.
Not a bad set, each LP is in a nice gatefold sleeve with track descriptions,
and some notes by Irwin Chusid on Vol 2.  Several tracks are repeated in
variations across the LP's and the majority clock in at around a minute.
There are some outstanding pieces on there,  some wonderfully textured
tracks ranging from very warm and mellow to quite disturbing.  But a lot of
it I found quite annoying,  do I need a couple of versions of an advert
lasting a few seconds with electronic bleeps even if it is Raymond Scott?  I
just get the feeling that I would have been happier with a single LP of the
longer tracks leaving the rest for completists.
But then again, I don't really think I would.

OK, Soothing Sounds for Babies was out on vinyl,  finally MR has surfaced, I
wonder if the rest of the Raymond Scott Basta releases will surface on Long
Player.  I'd like to have some of his non-electronic music, too.

By the way, does anyone have a copy of v1 of Soothing Sounds on record that
they don't want?  I have 2 and 3, but could never find v1.  (Ooops here
comes the completist out of the closet).


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Subject: (exotica) OK, so I saw Ghost World, too...
Date: 12 Sep 2001 09:50:19 -0400


...and enjoyed it.  I had to duck out of reality for a while yesterday and
my thoughts and prayers go out to all.

As for the movie, do see it and look for this cover to show up on Enid's wall:

http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/galleries/gallery_a/whatsnext.html

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) OK, so I saw Ghost World, too...
Date: 12 Sep 2001 07:17:10 -0700 (PDT)


As a avid record collector with a younger girlfriend I also enjoyed
this movie.  Glad Alan recomended it on the list.  I really enjoyed
the scene wear he threw a party for his record collecting friends
and tried to sell one a cracked 78.

Chuck

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Subject: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 12 Sep 2001 09:30:43 -0500


Hope all on the list are safe and sound.  Could we please do a roll
call of our NYC list members.  Please let us know how you are doing.
Our prayers are with you.


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From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 12 Sep 2001 11:25:15 -0400


Hi!  I was working in a slummy old office building one half block from the
World Trade Center when the Big Things happened.  We actually watched the
burning and the debris from a window until the SECOND plane hit, and at that
point, we got the hell out of there.  I think that building is still standing,
but at this point the whole area is sealed off and will be for the
forseeable.  It goes without saying that the whole transportation matrix into
that area has been completely altered or destroyed.
I don't know about all the exotica list members, but I do know that all the
Yahoo Luxuria Club members are safe, and well wishes have come in from Domenic
Ciccone and Indy Rutks among others - for which, thank you !!!!  Anita
Serwacki, The Meat Mistress - Jack Fetterman's partner in The In Hi-Fi
Sessions - believes she lost friends yesterday.  Of course there is still so
much chaos and a lack of information, but with anywhere up to 20,000 possibly
dead... you know, fill in the blanks.
I'm not sure who else on this list might have worked in the area, but if they
were any closer to it than I was, they were REALLY at Ground Zero.  Hopefully
we will all know more in the days to come.

Thanks so much, Colleen !!!

Colleen Pyles wrote:

> Hope all on the list are safe and sound.  Could we please do a roll
> call of our NYC list members.  Please let us know how you are doing.
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 12 Sep 2001 16:29:42 +0100


Lou would be an obvious Questionmark,  but if he emails from work (which I
think he does) and his work place is out of bounds then we won't know..


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> Our prayers are with you.
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>
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From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 12 Sep 2001 09:04:44 -0700


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> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> [e-mail]

> Lou would be an obvious Questionmark,  but if he emails from work (which I
> think he does) and his work place is out of bounds then we won't know..

Lou Smith already e-mailed the exoticaring list -- he's fine, thank
goodness.

Anyone heard from Citizen Kafka?

Later,
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 12 Sep 2001 08:52:00 -0700 (PDT)


I heard from Kafka and he and his family watched the horror from
their home. They are alright.  He said everyone he knew made it out
of the buildings including someone who worked on the 70th floor.

I'll try and call Lou.  I believe he does email from work.

Chuck

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 12 Sep 2001 12:37:34 -0400 (EDT)



I was working at the WTC all last year and this up until July.
Now I'm glad I was laid off. Hope all my old co-workers made
it out o.k.

- Bruce

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Colleen Pyles wrote:

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> call of our NYC list members.  Please let us know how you are doing.
> Our prayers are with you.
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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 12 Sep 2001 14:04:51 -0500


Thank you all so much for checking in. I appreciate all the info you
have given. I know it's going to be tough in the next few months.
Keep us all updated.

Thanks


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 12 Sep 2001 16:31:14 EDT


We watched it on tv while our friends were walking down the stairs of the
wtc. So far, no personal casualties and we are keeping our fingers crossed.
Lots of 1st person stories are coming our way. We are alternately grateful
and in shock.
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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) OK, so I saw Ghost World, too...
Date: 12 Sep 2001 16:56:08 -0500


Chuck wrote:

As a avid record collector with a younger girlfriend I also enjoyed
this movie.
    *****************************

So Chuck, are you braggin' or what!!!


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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 13 Sep 2001 00:10:12 +0200


hello to all exoticans in NY and everywhere... I hope you are all ok.
I am in Italy as usual and I'm glad to hear messages from NY people who
escaped the tragedy that happened yesterday.

I was in my hometown Pescara, in the office of a friend of mine, Vincenzo,
who's a lawyer and also singer in a ska/soul group called Agua Calientes.
When one of his friends called him and said that planes were crashing on
the Twin Towers and the Pentagon he thought it was some absurd joke and
laughed histerically saying "are you kidding?! f*** off!" to his friend and
almost putting down the phone. A few minutes later a guy who was coming to
the office gave us more informations. I ran home and listened to the radio
in my car then watched all I could on tv (most Italian channels were and
still are broadcasting CNN images) and on the Internet and it was like
seeing a bad movie about disasters, like the Towering Inferno or something
like that... only, this time it was real.
My girlfriend is shocked since she is one of those people that having read
a certain Tom Clancy novel now live with the thought than it can be done
for real. And even things can be even worse than in a stupid novel or
hollywood movie.

Yesterday night I found an email by some artist from Mp3.com inviting other
artists to donate tracks for an instant dam cd release tentatively called
"America Mourns". While the guy said that profits would have been donated
to the Red Cross, I archived the mail without replying.
I couldn't live with the idea of using such an horrible event like this to
get any kind of promotion --- and on the same day it happened.

I've heard a few absurd comments on tv. Some US related personality based
in Italy saying it was just "a provocation" and speaking of "loss of
PROPERTY" (!!!!!!) or damages to economy. Most comments agree that this is
a tragedy mainly for the enormous loss of human lives.

Also in a few minutes, the familiar New York skyline was wiped out. This is
a symbol in a certain sense.
I tried to imagine Rome without St.Peter's church or Paris without the
Eiffel Tower. Sorry if this is a stupid thought, compared to the loss of
people. Maybe what I will say now will sound very stupid... I don't mean to
offend anyone. It's just stuff I have in my mind now.

Just a few days ago I had found a cheap italian book about Spider-Man. It
was mostly a collage of images taken from lots of different sources, not
just comics, trying to do some critic and research on the famous comic book
hero. One of the chapters was about Spider-Man's New York and compared
various images of real NY or other fantasy depictions of its skyline with
the skyscrapers pictured in Spider-Man comics.

Yesterday I thought that together with thousands of innocent lives and the
myth of an all-powerful America, a piece of NY as we know it (and I've
never seen NY for real in my life) was no more.
Tonight my girfriend told me she had heard that scenes from the upcoming
Spider-Man movie will be cut out because of the presence of skyscrapers (I
had recently seen an Internet trailer representing Spider-Man capturing an
helicopter with his web.. and the helicopter ends up trapped between two
towers very similar to the ones that were destroyed).

Sorry for all this mess. I'm still shocked.

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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 13 Sep 2001 00:24:10 +0200


hello to all exoticans in NY and everywhere... I hope you are all ok.
I am in Italy as usual and I'm glad to hear messages from NY people who
escaped the tragedy that happened yesterday.

I was in my hometown Pescara, in the office of a friend of mine, Vincenzo,
who's a lawyer and also singer in a ska/soul group called Agua Calientes.
When one of his friends called him and said that planes were crashing on
the Twin Towers and the Pentagon he thought it was some absurd joke and
laughed histerically saying "are you kidding?! f*** off!" to his friend and
almost putting down the phone. A few minutes later a guy who was coming to
the office gave us more informations. I ran home and listened to the radio
in my car then watched all I could on tv (most Italian channels were and
still are broadcasting CNN images) and on the Internet and it was like
seeing a bad movie about disasters, like the Towering Inferno or something
like that... only, this time it was real.
My girlfriend is shocked since she is one of those people that having read
a certain Tom Clancy novel now live with the thought than it can be done
for real. And even things can be even worse than in a stupid novel or
hollywood movie.

Yesterday night I found an email by some artist from Mp3.com inviting other
artists to donate tracks for an instant dam cd release tentatively called
"America Mourns". While the guy said that profits would have been donated
to the Red Cross, I archived the mail without replying.
I couldn't live with the idea of using such an horrible event like this to
get any kind of promotion --- and on the same day it happened.

I've heard a few absurd comments on tv. Some US related personality based
in Italy saying it was just "a provocation" and speaking of "loss of
PROPERTY" (!!!!!!) or damages to economy. Most comments agree that this is
a tragedy mainly for the enormous loss of human lives.

Also in a few minutes, the familiar New York skyline was wiped out. This is
a symbol in a certain sense.
I tried to imagine Rome without St.Peter's church or Paris without the
Eiffel Tower. Sorry if this is a stupid thought, compared to the loss of
people. Maybe what I will say now will sound very stupid... I don't mean to
offend anyone. It's just stuff I have in my mind now.

Just a few days ago I had found a cheap italian book about Spider-Man. It
was mostly a collage of images taken from lots of different sources, not
just comics, trying to do some critic and research on the famous comic book
hero. One of the chapters was about Spider-Man's New York and compared
various images of real NY or other fantasy depictions of its skyline with
the skyscrapers pictured in Spider-Man comics.

Yesterday I thought that together with thousands of innocent lives and the
myth of an all-powerful America, a piece of NY as we know it (and I've
never seen NY for real in my life) was no more.
Tonight my girfriend told me she had heard that scenes from the upcoming
Spider-Man movie will be cut out because of the presence of skyscrapers (I
had recently seen an Internet trailer representing Spider-Man capturing an
helicopter with his web.. and the helicopter ends up trapped between two
towers very similar to the ones that were destroyed).

Sorry for all this mess. I'm still shocked.

DjB


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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) OK, so I saw Ghost World, too...
Date: 13 Sep 2001 00:43:05 +0200


Wel we don't have this movie here yet... but I can already have the music!

http://www.emusic.com/affiliate1000/sourceid=00251722644171201723/albums/26964

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From: "David Hoffman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New member introduction
Date: 12 Sep 2001 21:55:50 -0400


Hello

I am a new member to the list with a long-standing interest in exotica,
especially Les Baxter.  I grew up with his music in the 1950Æs, and it is
still fresh and invigorating today. ôPorts of Pleasureö is probably my
favorite of his albums. My record collection includes about 35 Baxter albums
in addition to numerous Lyman, Denny, and a few others. My musical interests
are eclectic, primarily classical, jazz, r&b and international (in no
special order).  Living in the rural South, this pursuit of BaxterÆs music
has been done in relative isolationùand itÆs going to be nice to emerge from
that condition.

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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 12 Sep 2001 22:18:13 -0400


I'm very relieved to hear good things so far. I've been worried about you
folks in NYC, but too tongue-tied (and fearful) to ask. I'm still
speechless, but our thoughts are with you. Take care, gang.

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From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sma Sumac<>Amc Camus
Date: 12 Sep 2001 23:15:34 -0400


l'll post this even thought it's been only one day after that horrible
thing. We had some good cheer tonight.

Although I've been reading this list for almost 3 years  not sure about
this.

Had a nice mini family reunion tonight at the house and that means torturing
the relatives with lounge music. My father-in-law is from Peru. He hardly
speaks English even though he's been in this country for 10 years now.
Played Yma Suma's Mambo CD for him. Just picked it up from one of the local
libraries this morning (it was in the world music section).

So I asked him: "Forget the background music it's pure Hollywood. Your
opinion:"Yma Sumac" Peruvian princess or "Amy Camus" a nice girl from
Brooklyn?"

He said she's from Peru.

Ok. Went on a limb here. What's the straight dope?

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From: "Kevin Leeeeee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tipsy / DJ Me DJ You / Seksu Roba in LA
Date: 13 Sep 2001 02:09:33 -0700


THIS FRIDAY Sept. 14  - night of indie electronic pop

TIPSY  (asphodel/SF)   http://www.asphodel.com/artists/tipsy/index.shtml
DJ ME DJ YOU  (was emporer norton/LA)    http://www.djmedjyou.com
SEKSU ROBA  (crippled dick hot wax!/LA) - probably starting 9:30pm
http://www.seksuroba.com

SPACELAND, 1717 Silver Lake Blvd., Silver Lake.
Cover $10. Full bar. [phone].

Tipsy is from SF and they're on a cool label and they're real fun,
sample-delic stuff - musical pioneers to some... pirates to others.  lots of
exotica, space age psychedlia and moogy sounds.  Speaking of pioneers, DJ Me
DJ You is formerly of Sukia fame and are LA's most def band.

Seksu Roba features lovely Lun*na on sampler/vocals/dancing/interpretive
bubble making, Sukho Lee on Theremin and synth, and Victor White and his
amazing anatomically correct robot, "Erector".  music is soft, sexy, and
psychedelic.

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Date: 13 Sep 2001 12:13:12


For some reason Bigshot's reply went to my work mail so never got to the
list.

To be honest I wouldn't care to dive into that subject. I don't have the
depth or breadth of knowledge on the 1910 - 1940 front. But even there if we
restrict it to American recorded popular music your list avoids the very
obvious and huge market of music native to immigrants. Your list of
contemporary music pretty much avoids dance music of any kind. Actually so
does your first list. Not a single polka, ceili or whatever artist in there.
I don't really think there is a 'typical' list of records. Do you base it on
'the charts'? Radio play? We're all big enough, old enough, smart enough to
know that they are specious nonsense. But it's not a point I'd get worked up
about.

My real point, which you avoid, is that records can, and do, sound more
diverse than they did in 1910-1940. The frequency spectrum is much larger.
Me and oscilloscopes would agree to disagree with you on the issue of
records sounding more different now.

Alan made the point about being close to the music. Indian classical music,
quite bizarrely, sounds all the same to many people. Or people write off
trad as 'diddlee-eye'. I can understand that, but it's wrong. It would also
be quite wrong to write off techno as 'dumpdumpdump' or house as 'dumptissk
dumptissk dumptissk' though again understandable. You pretty much know from
a cursory listen whether you want to pursue a genre. I would suggest you
stand at a great, great distance from contemporary club music. This is the
music that, like it or not, despise it or not, whether it fits your opinion
of the world going from gold to baseness or it fits your idea of progress,
fills in the role of the music of Louis Armstrong etc.

And a Timbaland production sounds more different from a Masters at Work
production sounds more different from a Mille Plateaux record sounds more
different from a Dave Clark record sounds more different from a Louis Walsh
boy/girl band sounds more different from a Leaf record sounds more different
from an Anti-Pop Consortium record sounds more different from a Compost
record sounds more different from an Isolee record (I could go on,
literally, all day) than any list you could possibly compile of the entire
first 40 years of the last century in recorded music.
The records didn't have it.
The music was none the worse for this, it had diversity of other kinds. What
it sorely lacked was SONIC DIVERSITY. It was not a concept that made any
sense then. Think of Varese and the Intonarumori and you might get what I'm
talking about.
best of luck,
rob

As with everyone else, my sympathies with everyone on the list or anywhere
who might have lost a loved one. I just found out last night that everyone I
know is accounted for with relief.



> >Stephen, I disagree with your list of 'typical' songs, and I disagree
with
> >your point of music sounding more alike now than before.
>
>What would your list of typical popular songs from 1910 to 1940 and
>from 1970 to today look like?
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  OK, so I saw Ghost World, too...Patience & Prudence
Date: 13 Sep 2001 07:29:57 -0700 (PDT)


My favorite song in Ghost World was by Patience & Prudence. I never
heard it before and it was not one of their "hits"  I'm sorry to
see it not on the soundtrack.

--- Nicola Battista <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Wel we don't have this movie here yet... but I can already have
> the music!
>
>
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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 13 Sep 2001 10:04:09 -0500


Nicola,
Thank you so much for your kind words.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) New member introduction
Date: 13 Sep 2001 15:19:52 +0000





Welcome to the list David. I for one would love to have 35 Baxter albums, so
you can take comfort in knowing there's a guy up in Canada already jealous
of your record collection.

Maybe in one of your posts you could tell us where in the South you are. How
are the thrift stores down there? I'm trying to find the second-hand store
land of milk and honey. When I find it i'm moving there cuz it sure as hell
ain't up here.

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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New member introduction
Date: 13 Sep 2001 12:28:20 -0400


At 03:19 PM 9/13/01 +0000, james brouwer wrote:
.>
>Maybe in one of your posts you could tell us where in the South you are. How
>are the thrift stores down there? I'm trying to find the second-hand store
>land of milk and honey.

Yeah sure. He's going to tell you about his thrift stores and you'll drive
down there and wipe them out.  Would you tell him if you did live in the
land of milk and honey. (At least you live in the land of relative safety.)
Welcome to the list, guy with 35 Les Baxters.
I'd also like to know where in the South you are but only so I could have
some pleasant memories.

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Subject: 3-LPs only $35. | re: (exotica) Manhattan Research on Vinyl
Date: 13 Sep 2001 13:48:33 EDT




   "MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC." 3-LP SET (only $35.)
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     BASTA RECORDS has just released the entire 69-track "MANHATTAN RESEARCH
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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 1952
Date: 13 Sep 2001 19:05:20 -0400


I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of mine
is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy he and his
fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and having somewhat
unusual, sophisticated tastes.  So that would include some jazz.  But I'd
like to make him a CD of exotica-related things.  Maybe Spike Jones?  I
don't know what else.  Did Les Baxter make records that early?  How about
some Hawaiian stuff or cha-cha?
I could use your help.

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From: KK <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952
Date: 14 Sep 2001 01:48:07 +0000


alan zweig wrote:

> I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of mine
> is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy he and his
> fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and having somewhat
> unusual, sophisticated tastes.  So that would include some jazz.  But I'd
> like to make him a CD of exotica-related things.

I suggest not making a CD.

KK

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From: Jerry Nutter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) mouldy old dough
Date: 13 Sep 2001 21:18:42 -0400


El Maestro Con Queso: does anyone have an mp3 or such of Lieutenant Pigeons
'Mouldy Old Dough', I don't have the technology unfortunately, and need it
for something here.

audiocarp: I believe I have the 45 (or maybe something else by him), but
don't have the foggiest idea of how I'd convert it into mp3 format! BTW,
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From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952
Date: 13 Sep 2001 21:21:27 -0400 (EDT)



Well, you could just ignore the whole 1952 thing and use whatever music
you like and not tell them what year it's from. Maybe.


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From: "Myke O'Clock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952
Date: 14 Sep 2001 00:57:46 -0700


>I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of
> >mine is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy >he
>and his fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and >having
>somewhat unusual, sophisticated tastes.  So that would include >some jazz.
>But I'd like to make him a CD of exotica-related things.  >Maybe Spike
>Jones?  I don't know what else.  Did Les Baxter make >records that early?
>How about some Hawaiian stuff or cha-cha?
>I could use your help.
>
>AZ

Les Baxter was active then. Here's a quick list of various Jazzy/Early
Exotica Artists who had stuff out by 1952. A lot of these folks may only
have early stuff available on anthologies rather than actual albums. If
nothing else, it may give you some ideas.
(Most of these I got just by checking their discogs at All Music Guide).

Les Baxter
Xavier Cugat
Slim Gaillard
Stan Getz
Lionel Hampton
Illinois Jacquet
Spike Jones
Louis Jordan
Stan Kenton
Gene Krupa
Enoch Light
Billy May
Professor Longhair
Edith Piaf
Tito Puente
Raymond Scott
Ethel Smith
The Three Suns

Hope this helps!

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Subject: RE: (exotica) mouldy old dough
Date: 14 Sep 2001 09:09:36 +0100


Well, any Computer Audio Format would be acceptable.  I must admit I haven't
got a clue about the nuts and bolts of doing it, but I imagine PC or Mac
recording software would give the opportunity of chosing formats. Its a
popular pastime on the list.
I have a vague recollection of seeing them on Top of the Pops when the
record was out, sad to say it was a big hit over here.  But I don't know
anything about them,  by the line up of whistle, out of tune piano, bass and
that rhythm stick thing I think theres a good chance that they were a
working band caught out by a novelty hit that was nothing like their
'serious' stuff.  And couldn't follow it up.
There used to be a bloke who worked in one of our local second hand record
shops who claimed to collect different versions of it.  But the only cover
I've seen is that Moog one.  I've never seen any other Lieutenant Pigeon
records.
Thanks Audiocarp.  If you work out how to do it go ahead, you're my only
offer so far!


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> don't have the foggiest idea of how I'd convert it into mp3 format! BTW,
> who is Lieut. Pigeon?


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Subject: RE: (exotica) 1952
Date: 14 Sep 2001 09:30:52 +0100


Edmundo Ros was working before the war.

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> >I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of
> > >mine is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy
> >he
> >and his fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and >
>
> Les Baxter was active then. Here's a quick list of various Jazzy/Early
> Exotica Artists who had stuff out by 1952.
> Les Baxter
> Xavier Cugat
> Slim Gaillard
> Stan Getz
> Lionel Hampton
> Illinois Jacquet
> Spike Jones
> Louis Jordan
> Stan Kenton
> Gene Krupa
> Enoch Light
> Billy May
> Professor Longhair
> Edith Piaf
> Tito Puente
> Raymond Scott
> Ethel Smith
> The Three Suns
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> --Myke


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From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) mouldy old dough
Date: 14 Sep 2001 21:39:28 +1000


on 7/9/01 12:28 AM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

> does anyone have an mp3 or such of Lieutenant Pigeons 'Mouldy Old Dough', I
> don't have the technology unfortunately, and need it for something here.

I can do this for you. It's on the album "I'll take you home again Kathleen"
which is filed under comedy in the children's room and they're asleep so
I'll get to it tomorrow.

What quality mp3 do you need? Mono, stereo, bit-rate? What are you using it
for?

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952
Date: 14 Sep 2001 05:44:37 -0700 (PDT)


I know that the Revel/Baxter theremin accompanied
records were coming out in the late 40s-early 50s
(Music Out of the Moon being the more jazzy of the
three). Also, his Ritual of the savage came out in
1952. Machito's pretty exotic. Dizzy Gillespie's Cuban
influenced pieces fit the bill - I'm sure there are
others in that vein.... Pepe Domingue.... Maybe some
Danny Guglielmi and Les Paul. Yma Sumac: Legend of the
Sun Virgin, Voice of the Xtabay, both 1952. In fact,
the more I look in to it, the more it seems like a
very good year. For exotica. Might want to toss in
some Sinatra.

--- alan  zweig <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica

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From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) 1952
Date: 14 Sep 2001 15:40:16 +0200



> Les Baxter was active then.

And more importantly: his recording of Quiet Village came out then.

Marco


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From: "basichip" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Brown Baby
Date: 14 Sep 2001 09:10:53 -0700


Hi all -

I'm borrowing a great idea from Mr. Fodder.  He recently posted a
couple of complete and listenable  LP's on his Friendly Persuasion site and
I'm following his lead.  Submitted for your pleasure is a recent arrival,
Gordon Thomas' Brown Baby.  Please visit here to hear the whole album:

http://www.basichip.com/gordon_thomas/gordon_thomas.htm

Those familar with Citizen Kafka's incredible Americana Vox Populi CD
http://www.citizenkafka.com/fs/cd/voxpopliner.html or Irwin Chusid's Songs
In The Key Of Z http://www.keyofz.com/keyofz/index.htm will instantly
recognize the name Gordon Thomas.

"Incorrect Music" par excellence.

My deepest sympathies to any fellow listees with loved ones lost in
Tuesday's attack.

Peace -

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From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Brown Baby
Date: 14 Sep 2001 19:17:56 +0200



> I'm borrowing a great idea from Mr. Fodder.  He recently posted a
> couple of complete and listenable  LP's on his Friendly Persuasion site
and
> I'm following his lead.

Cool! Will you be posting albums on a regular basis, like once a month?
I'll have a cable connection next week, so I will start downloading this
stuff like mad!

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From: bigshot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Xformation
Date: 14 Sep 2001 14:42:47 -0700


>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:40:06 -0400
>From: "Brian" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Transformation
>
>Bigshot wrote:
>
>Steve, you have said all this before
>and I'm sure I was among the many respondents that seemed to be less able to
>describe in mere words exaclty what constitutes "good" music!

I'm not talking about "good" music. I am talking about "popular"
music. I think that the rapid transformation in music in the
first half of the 20th century was due to the fact that "popular"
music or "mainstream" music represented the voice of all music
of America. People used new recording and broadcasting technology
to diversify and transform popular music. Today, music is
fragmented into genres and sub-genres and sub-sub-genres that
"specialists" follow. "Popular" music is the *least* representative
of the forefront of music today. The main focus of recording and
broadcasting is on distributing "more of the same", rather than
trying to push the envelope with new sounds. I can't see how this
is a good thing.

See ya
Steve

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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ecl3ctic.gemm.com update
Date: 15 Sep 2001 00:31:58 +0200


Just a quick mail to inform you that a few Hexacord titles have been
relisted on this Gem page and that there are few finds related to Santi
Latora unplayed albums from 1970s.
These ones aren't exactly cheap but I am selling them at this price on
behalf of someone else.
http://ecl3ctic.gemm.com

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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) e-mail problem
Date: 14 Sep 2001 19:41:38 -0400


My dialup ISP has done a wonderful job of crashing the mail server since
early Thursday. They're still down, but I've switched all of my mail
plumbing fully onto my webhost's e-mail system (something I''ve been
meaning to get around to anyway), so I'm hooked up again. And I've caught
up on the list posts via the web archive. Point of this post being (finally
getting to it): if you've e-mailed me offlist in the past couple of days, I
didn't receive it. Sorry. Please resend. Thanks for reading.

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From: Peter Gingerich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC-OUI OUI
Date: 14 Sep 2001 16:14:23 -0400




      Checking in with the list, still safe and sound, (so far), in NYC.
Working far enough away from the action to miss it but caught it on tv,
living close enough to see the smoke plume and smell the leftover fires at
night.
  RIP WTC is some stencilled graffiti around here. Although I never wanted
to work there (always seemed like a firetrap or weird vibe magnet) did
occasionally visit to catch concerts in the summer garden (most memorably a
Pauline Oliveros/Deep Listening Band psychedelic fest) and up on Windows On
The World, the top floor, that would often host djs and the odd band. It was
a cool place for a bit, with the sort of funky old seventies style bar and
the dancefloor.
   NYC is pretty grim right now, CMJ has been cancelled and a bunch of other
stuff, downtown was paralyzed for a bit (well it still is way downtown).
This may be of interest to Pizzicatto Five fans (or the spectrapop (?)
list) - on a lighter note I got to hang out with Nomiya Maki (ex Pizzicatto
Five) who was in town to perform this friday for fashion week which of
course was cancelled for less frivolous things. She was with her partner
Reiko, they have a new group called Oui Oui.  Nomiya has a little book out,
titled A-Z or something, which is essentially about, er, herself.
Impressive indeed is her illustrated discography, about 45 cds starting back
in '81, including Pizzicatto Five and a host of tribute stuff (T Rex, etc.).
After hanging out at a yakitori place, we all  including the head chef went
to a nearby karaoke room to do some numbers. Somehow I got handed the mike
to sing 'Yesterdays Papers', its fun singing a song that you have absolutely
no idea how the melody goes (not that anyone could tell).
Highlight was the two yes yes ladies singing 'Dancing Queen'.
    Then it was back out to the empty streets to the sound of thunder of an
approaching storm...

Peace, all, as we wait for WWIII.
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Subject: Re: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC
Date: 15 Sep 2001 13:09:13 EDT


Boston remembering WTC ...Seks Bomba had played there, Brother Cleve DJ'd
there with the World Famous Pontani Sisters...I have a picture of my two kids
standing in the Empire State Building staring in awe at the WTC off in the
distance...now a gaping hole......And to think they were a mere 30 years
old..CNN has some video of the first crash. Some firemen in the street just
doing some oddball manhole work looking up at the sound of a too close jet.
Looking back down...Then comes the most commonly uttered phrase that day from
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From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC
Date: 15 Sep 2001 15:02:59 -0400


I do believe I said this myself when I was in my office directly across t=
he
street from Tower 2, in reaction to the second explosion.  That was when =
we made
the decision to shut everything down and get the hell out.  What a mess. =
 I was
on the 11th floor of 130 Cedar Street, the grubby little factory building=
 with
the Amish Market storefront... more than likely the only building in that=

proximity too grubby and ghastly to be affected by such proceedings.

[e-mail] wrote:

> Boston remembering WTC ...Seks Bomba had played there, Brother Cleve DJ=
'd
> there with the World Famous Pontani Sisters...I have a picture of my tw=
o kids
> standing in the Empire State Building staring in awe at the WTC off in =
the
> distance...now a gaping hole......And to think they were a mere 30 year=
s
> old..CNN has some video of the first crash. Some firemen in the street =
just
> doing some oddball manhole work looking up at the sound of a too close =
jet.
> Looking back down...Then comes the most commonly uttered phrase that da=
y from
> an anonymous onlooker: "Holy fuckin' shit"

--
Peace Out
Choppa Choppa
Bang Bang
Hack=FC Maim=FC
Where's da WUV=99?




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From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) enoch light in the wire
Date: 15 Sep 2001 22:31:01 -0700


Just in case some of you folks missed it: the August 2001 issue of The
Wire -- probably too late, as the new Bjork issue is probably already on the
stands -- has a lovely little tribute essay (by Matmos's Drew Daniel) to
Enoch Light, and how Light's "hyperactive cut-up take on swing offered a Z
axis that opened [Daniel's] musical universe up into three dimensions; gave
it life, colour, humour, motion."

Later,
Ben

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From: Paul Wages <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo"
Date: 16 Sep 2001 02:26:09 -0500


They used to play this song on Luxuria -- "The Bobo" by Francis Lai.  I've
been keeping an eye out for the soundtrack ever since.  Well, I just saw the
Peter Sellers film last night and noticed that the track wasn't used in the
film at all.  The track I'm thinking of is a vocal version which mentions
"The Girl From Ipanema" in a lyric.  Is this track on the soundtrack LP or a
perhaps only a 7 inch?  I just want to double check before I make an online
purchase.

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From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo"
Date: 16 Sep 2001 10:15:21 -0400


Yes this is absolutely correct!  I also heard the track with vocals any n=
umber
of times on Luxuria.  I got the film on VHS at half.com for maybe 5 bucks=
=2E.. I
found it to be less than one of Sellers' signature roles.  In fact I was
cringing at how bad a film it was.  This was at a time when Sellers would=

simply slap on some brown makeup and do one ethnic character after anothe=
r -
they practically sank his career, according to a biography I saw last yea=
r.
And of course, the Frances Lai theme is only stated in the film
instrumentally.  I am beginning to think that the vocal version we heard =
might
even have been a promotional piece for the film in America, as the vocali=
sts
clearly sound American.  In addition, the lyrics have nothing to do with
Sellers' character... really, as if whomever wrote the lyrics had not act=
ually
seen a copy of the shooting script.

Been missing you in the Yahoo Luxuria Club, Paul!  Well these days, all w=
e talk
about is the War, but...

Paul Wages wrote:

> They used to play this song on Luxuria -- "The Bobo" by Francis Lai.  I=
've
> been keeping an eye out for the soundtrack ever since.  Well, I just sa=
w the
> Peter Sellers film last night and noticed that the track wasn't used in=
 the
> film at all.  The track I'm thinking of is a vocal version which mentio=
ns
> "The Girl From Ipanema" in a lyric.  Is this track on the soundtrack LP=
 or a
> perhaps only a 7 inch?  I just want to double check before I make an on=
line
> purchase.
>
> Fun movie BTW.

--
Peace Out
Choppa Choppa
Bang Bang
Hack=FC Maim=FC
Where's da WUV=99?




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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: kahimi / Cowboy Bebop
Date: 16 Sep 2001 14:24:59 -0400


At 11:55 PM 09/08/2001, William wrote:
>incidentally, the track "wo qui non  coin" on the cowboy bebop blue ost
>makes me think quite a bit of kahimi karie. though its someone named aoi
>tada. i don't know who she is though.

According to a Cowboy Bebop fansite, Aoi Tada is the voice actress who
voices the character Ed in the original Japanese version.


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Hope all are well
Date: 16 Sep 2001 21:56:56 -0400


Sorry to check in so late. Thank you all for your concern! I've only just
recently had DSL service restored. I did have dial-up access twice, but it
was slow and irregular -- only had enough time and stability to send a few
messages before losing the line.

Anyway, my family and I are fine. I want to give thanks to my wife, Jane,
who did good works as a member of NY Downtown Hospital's emergency team. NYD
Hospital is the nearest hospial to the WTO area. I'm thankful that at least
one of us could contribute directly and meaningfully in the aftermath of the
events.

Questionmark no more,
Lou

At 04:29 PM 9/12/01 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Lou would be an obvious Questionmark,  but if he emails from work (which I
>think he does) and his work place is out of bounds then we won't know..
>
>
>El Maestro Con Queso
>
>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]
>http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
>http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/

>
>> Hope all on the list are safe and sound.  Could we please do a roll
>> call of our NYC list members.  Please let us know how you are doing.
>> Our prayers are with you.
>>
>>
>>  Colleen




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) To Hawaii...........
Date: 17 Sep 2001 14:00:21 +0100


For a getaway to simpler times and exotic places, heres a historical piece
on Hawaiian Music from Ian Whitcombs site.  Mostly pre-war, and not a
mention of Exotica or any performers I'm familiar with.

http://www.picklehead.com/ian/ian_txt_hawaiin.html

Generally its quite a good site, too.  I think I found it originally through
M.Aces Linkalog.


El Maestro Con Queso

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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 17 Sep 2001 21:08:27 -0500


Well, after several weeks of reruns, the Retro Cocktail Hour is back
with an all-new webcast!

The bossa nova goes Hawaiian in Lisa Ono's great new CD "Bossa
Hula Nova"...we'll meet the Elvis of the accordion...there's crime
jazz from Kenyon Hopkins, Leith Stevens and Buddy Bregman ...neo
bossa from Bebel Gilberto and Les Hommes...a visit to the Morphine
Mambo Jazz Club...Sallie Blair stakes out a claim in Yma Sumac-ville
with "Similou" (mentioned recently on the list)...plus tunes from Les
Baxter's "Jungle Jazz", Enoch Light's "Discotheque" and Claus
Ogerman's "Latin Rock".

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, visit:

http://kanu.ku.edu/retro.html

New shows are added to the archive every week.  As always, your
comments and requests are welcome.

Darrell Brogdon
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
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From: Paul Wages <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo"
Date: 18 Sep 2001 21:03:44 -0500



> found it to be less than one of Sellers' signature roles.  In fact I was
> cringing at how bad a film it was.  This was at a time when Sellers would
> simply slap on some brown makeup and do one ethnic character after another -

A lesser Sellers' film to be sure, but really not all that bad.  I thought
it had some funny moments (the Ericofon gag sticks out in my mind) and some
nice supporting roles by some familiar faces.  And Britt Eckland was
stunning.  Eckland and Sellers were married at this time, correct?
Unfortunately, I found Lai's score to be kind of weak.

Have you seen "I Love You, Alice B. Toklas!"?  I loved that one and bet the
soundtrack album is great too.  TCM has been playing it recently.

> instrumentally.  I am beginning to think that the vocal version we heard might
> even have been a promotional piece for the film in America, as the vocalists

I was thinking that as well.

> Been missing you in the Yahoo Luxuria Club, Paul!  Well these days, all we
> talk
> about is the War, but...

Yeah, I've been meaning to check in.  What's going on with RadioFreeLux
anyuway?

Just taking my mind off things for a moment...

Paul



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From: "Brian Linds" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jack Parr Theme
Date: 18 Sep 2001 21:58:29 -0700


Hi. Does anyone have a version of the Jack Parr Theme song, I.M.4.U.? And if
so, does it have lyrics? I need this desperately  for a project I'm working
on. Thanks in advance.
Brian Linds



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From: crymad <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Parr Theme
Date: 19 Sep 2001 03:21:59 -0700




Brian Linds wrote:
>
> Hi. Does anyone have a version of the Jack Parr Theme song, I.M.4.U.? And if
> so, does it have lyrics? I need this desperately  for a project I'm working
> on.

I have one on a Spin-O-Rama album titled "Featuring Jose Melis", Jose
Melis being Jack Paar's musical director and soloist.  As such, I'm not
sure if it qualifies as a "version".  Also, it is listed as "Jack Paar
Theme", not "I.M.4.U."  No lyrics.

While no mention is made of it on the cover, side B is not Jose Melis,
but rather Mike Di Napoli.  At any rate, other than that Jack Paar theme
highlight, the album is just anonymous cocktail lounge piano.

--crymad


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From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Parr Theme
Date: 19 Sep 2001 08:35:06 -0600


hi Brian

Al Simmons used to do I-M-4-U in his act, maybe he still does. he'd come out on

stage dressed as an optometrist and pull down an eye chart with the lyrics.
it's been many many years since i've seen him perform, but i think this is how
the lyrics go:

I-M-4-U
S-I-M
S-I-M
U-N-I-L-B-S-I-4-F-R

I-M-I-N-U
N-U-R-I-N-2
C-E-Z-2-C-B-B
U-N-I-C-I-2-E, O

I-M-4-U
S-I-M
S-I-M
U-N-I-L-B-S-I-4-F-R-N-F-R-N-F-R


(i.e. I am for you, yes I am, yes I am, you an' I will be as one forever. I am
eyein' you, 'n you are eyein' too, it's easy to see, baby, you 'n i see eye to
eye, oh, etc.)

mike

Brian Linds wrote:

> Hi. Does anyone have a version of the Jack Parr Theme song, I.M.4.U.? And if
> so, does it have lyrics? I need this desperately  for a project I'm working
> on. Thanks in advance.
> Brian Linds




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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Computer writable drives....
Date: 19 Sep 2001 14:12:21 -0400


Okay, I'm getting a system set up at home and need to get a writable =
drive................are there any I should avoid??

- Nate




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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 19 Sep 2001 14:24:53 -0400


In the aftermath of the tragedy, this is the first reaction that's actually
made me laugh and I thought you guys would also get a kick out of it.

Clear Channel, one of the radio cartels (nearly 1200 stations), has banned a
surprisingly long list of songs because of the WTC disaster. This includes
expected things as "Jump" and "Rock the Casbah" but also oddly "Dancing in
the Streets" and the ridiculous "In the Year 2525".

Clear Channel's list of songs with questionable content

Drowning Pool "Bodies" (Well, this one is just obvious)
Mudvayne "Death Blooms"
Megadeth "Dread and the Fugitive"
Megadeth "Sweating Bullets"
Saliva "Click Click Boom"
P.O.D. "Boom"
Metallica "Seek and Destroy"
Metallica "Harvester or Sorrow"
Metallica "Enter Sandman"
Metallica "Fade to Black"
All Rage Against The Machine songs
Nine Inch Nails "Head Like a Hole"
Godsmack "Bad Religion"
Tool "Intolerance"
Soundgarden "Blow Up the Outside World"
(AC/DC is the big winner on this list)
AC/DC "Shot Down in Flames"
AC/DC "Shoot to Thrill"
AC/DC "Dirty Deeds"
AC/DC "Highway to Hell"
AC/DC "Safe in New York City"
AC/DC "TNT"
AC/DC "Hell's Bells"
Black Sabbath "War Pigs"
Black Sabbath "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath"
Black Sabbath "Suicide Solution"
Dio "Holy Diver"
Steve Miller "Jet Airliner" (Why? Did the person who banned this ever LISTEN
to this song??)
Van Halen "Jump"
Queen "Another One Bites the Dust"
Queen "Killer Queen"
Pat Benatar "Hit Me with Your Best Shot"
Pat Benatar "Love is a Battlefield"
Oingo Boingo "Dead Man's Party"
REM "It's the End of the World as We Know It"
Talking Heads "Burning Down the House"
Judas Priest "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll"
Pink Floyd "Run Like Hell"
Pink Floyd "Mother"
Savage Garden "Crash and Burn"
Dave Matthews Band "Crash Into Me"
Bangles "Walk Like an Egyptian" (Again - WHY? Because it has the word
"Egyptian" in it's title??)
Pretenders "My City Was Gone"
Alanis Morissette "Ironic"
Barenaked Ladies "Falling for the First Time"
Fuel "Bad Day"
John Parr "St. Elmo's Fire"
Peter Gabriel "When You're Falling"
Kansas "Dust in the Wind"
Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven"
The Beatles "A Day in the Life"
The Beatles "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" (I didn't realize the BEATLES
were so offensive! -note sarcasm- Geez!)
The Beatles "Ticket To Ride"
The Beatles "Obla Di, Obla Da"
Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"
Arthur Brown "Fire"
Blue Oyster Cult "Burnin' For You"
Paul McCartney and Wings "Live and Let Die"
Jimmy Hendrix "Hey Joe"
Jackson Brown "Doctor My Eyes"
John Mellencamp "Crumbling Down"
John Mellencamp "I'm On Fire"
U2 "Sunday Bloody Sunday"
Boston "Smokin"
Billy Joel "Only the Good Die Young"
Barry McGuire "Eve of Destruction"
Steam "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey"
Drifters "On Broadway"
Shelly Fabares "Johnny Angel"
Los Bravos "Black is Black"
Peter and Gordon "I Go To Pieces"
Peter and Gordon "A World Without Love"
Elvis "(You're the) Devil in Disguise"
Zombies "She's Not There"
Elton John "Benny & The Jets" (now this is just INSANE! This song isn't even
about PLANES!)
Elton John "Daniel"
Elton John "Rocket Man"
Jerry Lee Lewis "Great Balls of Fire"
Santana "Evil Ways"
Louis Armstrong "What A Wonderful World"
Youngbloods "Get Together"
Ad Libs "The Boy from New York City"
Peter Paul and Mary "Blowin' in the Wind"
Peter Paul and Mary "Leavin' on a Jet Plane"
Rolling Stones "Ruby Tuesday"
Simon And Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water"
Happenings "See You in Septemeber"
Carole King "I Feel the Earth Move"
Yager and Evans "In the Year 2525"
Norman Greenbaum "Spirit in the Sky"
Brooklyn Bridge "Worst That Could Happen"
Three Degrees "When Will I See You Again"
Cat Stevens "Peace Train"
Cat Stevens "Morning Has Broken"
Jan and Dean "Dead Man's Curve"
Martha & the Vandellas "Nowhere to Run"
Martha and the Vandellas/Van Halen "Dancing in the Streets"
Hollies "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother"
San Cooke Herman Hermits, "Wonder World"
Petula Clark "A Sign of the Times"
Don McLean "American Pie"
J. Frank Wilson "Last Kiss"
Buddy Holly and the Crickets "That'll Be the Day"
John Lennon "Imagine"
Bobby Darin "Mack the Knife"
The Clash "Rock the Casbah"
Surfaris "Wipeout"
Blood Sweat and Tears "And When I Die"
Dave Clark Five "Bits and Pieces"
Tramps "Disco Inferno" (If there were any radio stations ANYWHERE still
playing this song, they needed to stop now. Disco is DEAD)
Paper Lace "The Night Chicago Died"
Frank Sinatra "New York, New York"
Creedence Clearwater Revival "Travelin' Band" (Gee, let's just ban ALL songs
that mention airplanes!)
The Gap Band "You Dropped a Bomb On Me"
Alien Ant Farm "Smooth Criminal"
3 Doors Down "Duck and Run"
The Doors "The End"
Third Eye Blind "Jumper"
Neil Diamond "America"
Lenny Kravitz "Fly Away"
Tom Petty "Free Fallin'"
Bruce Springsteen "I'm On Fire"
Bruce Springsteen "Goin' Down"
Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight"
Alice in Chains "Rooster"
Alice in Chains "Sea of Sorrow"
Alice in Chains "Down in a Hole"
Alice in Chains "Them Bone"
Beastie Boys "Sure Shot"
Beastie Boys "Sabotage"
The Cult "Fire Woman"
Everclear "Santa Monica"
Filter "Hey Man, Nice Shot"
Foo Fighters "Learn to Fly"
Korn "Falling Away From Me"
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Aeroplane"
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Under the Bridge"
Smashing Pumpkins "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"
System of a Down "Chop Suey!"
Skeeter Davis "End of the World"
Rickey Nelson "Travelin' Man"
Chi-Lites "Have You Seen Her"
Animals "We Gotta Get Out of This Place"
Fontella Bass "Rescue Me"
Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels "Devil with the Blue Dress"
James Taylor "Fire and Rain" (I think this one is the most obvious. LYRIC:
"Broken dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground")
Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War"
Lynyrd Skynyrd "Tuesday's Gone"
Limp Bizkit "Break Stuff"
Green Day "Brain Stew"
Temple of the Dog "Say Hello to Heaven"
Sugar Ray "Fly"
Local H "Bound for the Floor"
Slipknot "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed"
Bush "Speed Kills"
311 "Down"
Stone Temple Pilots "Big Bang Baby," Dead and Bloated"
Soundgarden "Fell on Black Days," Black Hole Sun"
Nina "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons"




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From: "Daniel Shiman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 19 Sep 2001 19:20:58


I guess "Clear Channel" considered it inappropriate that we should hear
something so threatening to our born-again nationalistic fervor as an
anti-war protest song (and a pretty silly one at that).

>>Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War"

I can't think of any other reason why it would be on that list.

Does Clear Channel control the airwaves in Canada, too?  They suck.

-Dan




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From: "Jonny Perl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) In Hi-fi at Bar d'O, NYC, Thursday 20th
Date: 20 Sep 2001 05:42:57 +0800


Hi,

Sorry for the intrusion; I just wanted to let New York City listees know that last week's In Hi-fi has been rescheduled to tomorrow, Thursday 20th September.

http://www.psychedelicado.com/images/newinhififlyer.gif

Bar d'O is at 29 Bedford St on the corner of Bedford and Downing Streets in the west village.

thanks
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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 20 Sep 2001 01:35:54 +0200


I have heard of the huge list of banned songs somewhere else (maybe on
CNN.com?).

By the way, the first thing that came o my mind is that we're living in a
(very) bad rerun of the Gulf War days.

In those days:

-UK dj/producer Bomb The Bass had to abandon his usual pseudonym for a
while and use his true name (Tim Simenon);
-Massive Attack were simply renamed "Massive" (I'm not joking)
-The usual list of Clash and other obvious "dangerous" or "politically
incorrect" titles were banned completely (one above all: "Killing an arab")
-The rifle gun sounds at the beginning of "3AM Eternal" by the KLF were
censored by the BBC

etc etc etc.

I note that The Prodigy's "Fire" (which includes supposedly "banned" Arthur
Brown samples) is not on the list.
I was wondering if anyone in US can call the idiots at "Clear" (!?!?)
Channel and request that track for me.

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 19 Sep 2001 20:04:04 -0400


http://www.clearchannel.com/timages/article/Playlist-final.doc




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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 19 Sep 2001 20:07:36 -0400


For those without Word, here is the statement from their site, dated 9/18/01:
"Clear Channel Radio has not banned any songs from any of its radio stations.

Clear Channel believes that radio is a local medium.  It is up to every
radio station program director and general manager to understand their
market, listen to their listeners and guide their station's music
selections according to local sensitivities.  Each program director and
general manager must take the pulse of his or her market to determine if
play lists should be altered, and if so, for how long.

'In the wake of this terrible tragedy, the nation's business community is
responding with a degree of hypersensitivity," explained Mark P. Mays,
President and Chief Operating Officer of Clear Channel.  "Even some movie
companies have altered some of their release schedules in light of the mood
in America today.   Clear Channel strongly believes in the First Amendment
and freedom of speech.  We value and support the artist community.  And we
support our radio station programming staff and management team in their
responsibility to respond to their local markets.'"

I don't work for these fellows and I do indeed believe that corporate radio
is rather stinky (pardon the language), but it looks as if someone is
having a morbid laugh at people's expense.

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Date: 19 Sep 2001 22:28:40 -0400


> For those without Word, here is the statement from their site, dated
> 9/18/01:
> "Clear Channel Radio has not banned any songs from any of its radio
> stations.

Clear Channel's statement is 'technically' true.  But notice they did
not say 'This list never existed within the Clear Channel organization'
 Such a list did exist, and was being circulated among the Clear Channel
DJs.

It may have started as a sincere effort not to offend a certain market's
listeners.  Someone sending an e-mail saying 'It might not be
appropriate to play this song for the next 2 weeks.' Or it may have
started as an inside 'dark humor' joke to choose the most least
appropriate song to use as background music for last week's disaster
footage.   But like so many things, a small list, sent around via e-mail
among a group of radio programmers, grew and grew and grew until word
leaked out to the rest of the world and a great urban legend was born.

Here's the best writeup I've seen summarizing what happened.
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,46925,00.html?tw=wn20010918

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From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 19 Sep 2001 21:41:33 -0700 (PST)


Here is an article written by a High School chum of
mine.  Fans of gallows humor, be sure to read to the
end for the suggestions of songs that were omitted.

Radio network's list of 'inappropriate songs' hits
sour note with some

By Todd Inoue
BayArea.com
Published: Sept. 17, 2001, 6:15 p.m.

A program director at a local Clear Channel radio
station confirmed that the company disbursed a list
of "inappropriate songs" that shouldn't get airplay
following last week's terrorist attacks on the East
Coast.

"It was a list that was distributed so that we
wouldn't have to listen to every song and make
judgment calls," said Gary Schoenwetter, program
director for San Francisco-based and Clear Channel-
owned Star 101.3 who received the list this week. "It
served as a guide in deciding what was and wasn't
appropriate."

Schoenwetter adds that stations are not banned from
playing any songs. They can, and do, stray from the
line-up, he said, and it is far from a be-all, end-
all list.

"Had we been a station that played Edwin
Starr's 'War,' we would have left that one in,"
Schoenwetter said. "It was distributed under the
guise of 'Use this list at your discretion,' like any
corporate memo. It wasn't handed out as the hand of
God."

Flooding the inbox of music lovers and censorship
opponents, the list, first published by F--
kedCompany.com, came from Clear Channel, the owner
and operator of 1170 stations nationally and one of
the largest media organizations worldwide.

The song list was sent to all Clear Channel radio
stations, advising program directors about what songs
would be inappropriate to broadcast after the East
Coast tragedy.

Some songs include references to war ("War
Pigs," "Sunday Bloody Sunday") and bombs ("You
Dropped a Bomb on Me"). Others refer to peace
("Imagine," "Peace Train," "What a Wonderful World")
and celebrating ("Dancing in the Streets").

Program director Larry Sharp of San Francisco-based,
Susquehana-owned rock 'n' roll station 107.7 "The
Bone" saw the list and feels some of the choices
exclude songs that could help in the healing process.

"I agree there are some songs [that are
inappropriate] but I thought a lot of them went too
far," he said. "When you pull 'Stairway to Heaven,'
that's a song people play at funerals. You want to
hear a song like that during these times."

A corporate Clear Channel representative could not be
reached for comment or to confirm the list of songs
published on F--kedCompany.com.

The company released a public statement regarding the
list, however.

"The American entertainment industry, including
music, cinema and television, regularly incorporates
violence and tragedy in lyrics, plots and
storylines," the statement reads. "Given the
environment, a Clear Channel program director took it
upon himself to identify a number of songs that
certain markets or individuals might find insensitive
today."

"This is not a mandate nor was the list generated out
of corporate radio offices," the statement
continued. "It was a grassroots effort that was
apparently circulated by program directors. It's the
discretion of each program director and general
manager to take polls of his or her market and if so
for how long."

The following songs were reportedly listed as
having "questionable" content: (omitted)

[readers get a chance to vote:]

What song should be added to this list?

"Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" - The Smiths
"Killing an Arab" - The Cure
"Its Raining Men" - Geri Halliwell
"B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)" - Outkast
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From: "JamesBGerwitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ian Whitcomb, Musicologist
Date: 19 Sep 2001 22:50:20 -0700


Here's an article with some quotes from Ian Whitcomb concerning the recent
resurgence of  "God Bless America."  The media went to him I guess because
he wrote a book about Gershwin.  Haven't read that yet but I will again
highly recommend his book "After the Ball: From Ragtime to Rock."  Tons of
info on music in the first half of the 20th Century, written in the same
entertaining style as the Hawaiian music article and other stuff on his
website.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/14
/DD125927.DTL

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 20 Sep 2001 09:01:14 -0400


I still say that San Cooke's "Wonder World" probably does not deserve
airplay.  SAM Cooke's "What a Wonderful World", I believe, would be fine.

Doesn't Clear Channel have proofreaders,
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From: "Justin Bartlett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) LP Finds
Date: 20 Sep 2001 23:27:27 +1000


ABC radio here in Brisbane, Australia
has unloaded massive amounts of vinyl
recently, here's some stuff I picked up
for $1 (AUS) each.

A heap of Mercury Perfect Presence Sound LP's
- Cugat plays continental hits
- Richard Hayman conducts pop concert in sound
- Gypsy (R. Hayman)
- Strings afire (Clebanoff)
- Frederick Fennell conducts Cole Porter
- All the world dances  (David Carroll)
- Ten trumpets & 2 guitars (Pete Rugolo)

RCA Music For series
- Music for a German dinner at home
- Music for a French dinner at home
- Music for a backyard barbeque
MOODS IN MUSIC (Melachino)
- Music for reading
- Music for dining
- Music for daydreaming

 about 10 Command LPs
including Pertinent Percussion Cha Cha's.
Plus various others (Marty Gold, Swingle singers etc)
All in very playable condition.

I don't mean to gloat but this was what we all dream about,
I could't go through all of what they had so I'ma headin back soon.

Take care for now
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Subject: (exotica) confessions
Date: 20 Sep 2001 13:54:02 -0400


Dear List

In order to save you from my long-winded record-related rants, I've
recently poured my thoughts into "diary" pieces on a website.
There are diaries about life or not having one.
And pieces about records and music and everything else.

The website is here
http://www.vinylconfessions.com/

And the musical things, listed under "record rants" are here:

http://www.vinylconfessions.com/records.htm

This doesn't mean I'll never rant here again but I may not.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:42:05 -0400


I suppose "The Sheik of Araby" is right out, huh?

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Subject: (exotica) New Member
Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:42:09 -0700


Hi.  Been lurking for long enough.  Guess it's about time I've joined.
Name's Doug Dale.  Was host of Comedy Central's TV Funhouse.  Hope it comes
back.  They're working on it.  Moved to the New York area last fall.  I
didn't know anybody who was hurt in the tragedy, thank God.  My wife works
downtown and has to deal with it every day.  My two kids are doing okay.
We're in New Jersey.  We came from Los Angeles where I read the posts from
the list every day for a couple of years.  You guys have been making me
collect like a fiend.  It was easier in LA than here.  Lot of great record
resources there.  Anyway, hi, and it's a pleasure to be part of such a
wonderful group.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member
Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:52:55 -0400


I LIKE "Funhouse" a lot !!!  But it's hard to tell where Robert Smiegel e=
nds,
and anyone else on the creative team begins.  That's not so much a critic=
ism
as a question out of curiousity.

Doug Dale wrote:

> Hi.  Been lurking for long enough.  Guess it's about time I've joined.
> Name's Doug Dale.  Was host of Comedy Central's TV Funhouse. Hope it co=
mes
> back.  They're working on it.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member
Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:56:45 -0700


The show is pretty much Robert's.  It also reflects Dino Stamatopoulis's
humor.  They are the two funniest people I know.  FYI: The song's
arrangement style used during the opening still shots with me, was taken
from one of my records (found through this list) "Bernie Green's More than
you can stand in Stereo" Mr. Peeper's Theme.

Doug
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I LIKE "Funhouse" a lot !!!  But it's hard to tell where Robert Smiegel
ends,
and anyone else on the creative team begins.  That's not so much a criticism
as a question out of curiousity.

Doug Dale wrote:

> Hi.  Been lurking for long enough.  Guess it's about time I've joined.
> Name's Doug Dale.  Was host of Comedy Central's TV Funhouse. Hope it comes
> back.  They're working on it.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) confessions
Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:32:42 -0500


Az wrote:

In order to save you from my long-winded record-related rants,
                **********************

I've grown to love those rants......


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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member
Date: 20 Sep 2001 12:52:11 -0700 (PDT)


Doug, welcome. TV Funhouse was sacramental for me.
Hope it does not go the way of Strangers with Candy.
Happy hunting.

Ben Waugh

--- Doug Dale <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> Hi.  Been lurking for long enough.  Guess it's about
> time I've joined.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) confessions
Date: 20 Sep 2001 12:55:07 -0700 (PDT)


could this be the beginning of something fabulous?

--- Colleen Pyles <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Az wrote:

> In order to save you from my long-winded
> record-related rants,
>                 **********************
>
> I've grown to love those rants......

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Date: 20 Sep 2001 16:07:46 EDT


I was perplexed to se "Johnny Angel" by Shelly Fabares on the list. I guess
the censors saw "angel" and said,  "ban this one too"


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Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 20 Sep 2001 16:08:48 -0400



On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:07:46 EDT [e-mail] writes:
>
> I was perplexed to se "Johnny Angel" by Shelly Fabares on the list.
> I guess
> the censors saw "angel" and said,  "ban this one too"

I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I
think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident). So, they may feel songs
about people dying in accidents are off limits. And maybe they are.

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In a message dated 9/20/01 4:11:33 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I
think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident).  >>

I'm afraid not..."Johnny Angel, how I love him, he's got something that I
can't resist. but he doesn't even know that I-I-I exist. " There were a lot
of Johnny's back in the day...Get your Johnny's straight!

Johnny Botticelli/once met Shelly Fabares in 1962 at WCOP-AM..she kissed me~


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From: [e-mail] (Bump Stadelman)
Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:10:10 -0400


wasn't that one Leader of the Pack by the Shangri-Las?

lookout lookout lookout lookout!

bump

>> I was perplexed to se "Johnny Angel" by Shelly Fabares on the list.
>> I guess
>> the censors saw "angel" and said,  "ban this one too"
>
>I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I
>think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident). So, they may feel songs
>about people dying in accidents are off limits. And maybe they are.

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From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Finds
Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:30:03 -0400 (EDT)



On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Justin Bartlett wrote:
> - Strings afire (Clebanoff)

I bought this about a month ago, and I have to say it must be about the
most charged-up, high-energy, crazy-ass, TOTALLY WILD string LP I have
ever heard.  I really was quite amazed the first time I played it, after
hearing a few hundred other lame string records. It really is mind
boggling and surprising.

I don't know how many pots of coffee ol' Clebanoff sucked down before
making this one, but whatever it was, it worked!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:42:06 -0400


At 02:42 PM 9/20/01 -0400, Carl Howard wrote:
>
>I suppose "The Sheik of Araby" is right out, huh?

Not just that but also "Le Freak, C'est Chic"

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From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:43:58 -0400


Well !  That's "Teen Angel" out, then.  And "You Are My Special Angel," a=
nd
"Angel Baby," and all Devil references too, I guess... I wonder what thre=
e
songs remain which would be "safe"?

[e-mail] wrote:

> I was perplexed to se "Johnny Angel" by Shelly Fabares on the list. I g=
uess
> the censors saw "angel" and said,  "ban this one too"

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Date: 20 Sep 2001 16:25:11 -0400



>I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I
>think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident). So, they may feel songs
>about people dying in accidents are off limits. And maybe they are.

Nope.  It's about a guy that's like an angel to the protagonist.  "Other
fellows ask me out for a date/But I don't sit and wait/I'd rather
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Date: 20 Sep 2001 19:32:05 -0400


>
>
>I wonder what three songs remain which would be "safe"?
>
Clear Channel's new play list .....

1. 'America the Beautiful' by Ray Charles
2. 'America the Beautiful' by Kate Smith
3. 'America the Beautiful' by the U.S. Congress (Fatboy Slim remix)

Repeat.




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Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member
Date: 20 Sep 2001 18:32:56 -0500


Doug Dale wrote:

> FYI: The song's arrangement style used during the opening still shots with me,
> was taken from one of my records (found through this list) "Bernie Green's
> More than
> you can stand in Stereo" Mr. Peeper's Theme.

I have to say that those opening images of you in your underwear are indelibly
etched in my mind now, forcing me to go into a catatonic state every time I hear
that song or get too close to a rubber animal puppet.

Welcome to the list. Looking forward to hearing your musical observations!

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In a message dated 9/20/01 6:13:25 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< wasn't that one Leader of the Pack by the Shangri-Las? >>

You're thinking of "Leader of the Laundromat" by The Detergents


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In a message dated 9/20/01 6:30:46 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<<  Strings afire (Clebanoff)

I bought this about a month ago, and I have to say it must be about the
most charged-up, high-energy, crazy-ass, TOTALLY WILD string LP I have
ever heard.  I really was quite amazed the first time I played it, after
hearing a few hundred other lame string records. It really is mind
boggling and surprising. >>

Clebanoff has done me the occasional justice as well....The bossa nova
Clebanoff LP is loaded with soft and ez bossa goodies including a couple of
gems by Lalo.....

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In a message dated 9/20/01 6:44:05 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Where's da WUV=E2=84=A2? >>

    In your SUV


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In a message dated 9/20/01 6:45:41 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I wonder what three

songs remain which would be "safe"? >>

Its not what would be safe, there's a whole lotta them...Its the narrowness
of the songs played that make it so easy for them to step in and say "Dump
this one". It shows how little they know about the songs themselves in many
cases...they merely look at market surveys saying which ones garner the most
favorable response based on a seven second snippet being aired before an
auditorium full of randomly selected (name your age group) listeners.
personally I would hope the entire list of censored songs be never aired
again, they've been played to death, which makes the idea of censoring from a
list of market-censored playlist of records  kinda laffable


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Date: 20 Sep 2001 19:53:38 EDT



In a message dated 9/20/01 7:22:37 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< >I believe Johnny Angel is about a guy who dies in an accident (altho I
>think it may be a auto/motorcycle accident). So, they may feel songs
>about people dying in accidents are off limits. And maybe they are.

Nope.  It's about a guy that's like an angel to the protagonist.  "Other
fellows ask me out for a date/But I don't sit and wait/I'd rather
concentrate on Johnny Angel".  >>

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Subject: (exotica) Satellite Radio
Date: 20 Sep 2001 20:15:55 -0400


I just took a look at the new XM Satellite Radio Program List .... and
I'm a bit excited with the potential here.  100 channels of music to
choose from, and Channel 33 is the lounge channel, titled 'On the
Rocks.'    Here's a sample of that channel's tentative playlist

Dean Martin - 'Ain't That a Kick in the Head'
Louis Prima and Keely Smith - 'That Old Black Magic
Les Baxter's Drums - 'Mood Tattooed'
Rene Touzet - 'Baby Elephant Walk'
Combustible Edison - 'Carnival of Souls'
Juan Esquivel - 'Honky Tonk Cha Cha Cha'
Hugo Montenegro - 'Secret Agent Man'

More information can be found here.
http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?id=26603

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Subject: (exotica) more Satellite Radio
Date: 20 Sep 2001 20:35:37 -0400


The 'Special X' channel on Satellite Radio looks very interesting also...

Ken Nordine
Armed Forces Workout
The American Lung Association 1966 Flu Jingle
Flo and Eddie
Raymond Scott
William Shatner

more can be seen here ..
http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?id=26604

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Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 20 Sep 2001 21:04:47 -0400


Aren't Clear Channel the lovely people responsible for dumping Luxuria
Music?  It kind of figures...


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Subject: (exotica) Re: sneak preview of new Whistling Site
Date: 20 Sep 2001 20:34:31 -0700


hi all -

I've done a complete overhaul of my never finished, crappy whistling website
and have section temporarily up to check if all the links work alright.

The new site will be basically broken down into 5 sections:

1. whistlers
2. my records
3. fred lowery scrap book
4. MP3 sound gallery
5. a link to a Live365 webcast

clicking this link will take you to section two, "my records", which is
pretty much my current collection of whistling and birdsong recordings

http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/records33.htm

it is broken down into 4 groups, 33s, 45s, 78s and what few CDs there are.

you'll find cover scans, label scans, album info, track lists and soon there
will be selected tracks on MP3 you can access as well as personal reviews
and a "rate-o-record" grading scale.

Keepers of websites who have included Fred Lowery on there pages, feel free
to direct anybody to these listings.  His discography is getting quite long
and I honestly do not think there is any other listing like it in
cyberspace.

The nerds at the Orawhistle mailing list will eat this up

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Subject: (exotica) Fred Lowery Scrapbook
Date: 20 Sep 2001 20:43:46 -0700


here is the link to the fred lowery scrapbook

http://www.basichip.com/whistling/scrapbook/scrapbook.htm

some great photos, all scanned from a book on him.

I give all the credit to the book and include links to the site if you want
to purchase it.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:02:57 -0400


Very funny.  VERRRRRRY funny.

[e-mail] wrote:

> >I wonder what three songs remain which would be "safe"?
> >
> Clear Channel's new play list .....
>
> 1. 'America the Beautiful' by Ray Charles
> 2. 'America the Beautiful' by Kate Smith
> 3. 'America the Beautiful' by the U.S. Congress (Fatboy Slim remix)
>
> Repeat.
>
> Vern

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Subject: Re: (exotica) more Satellite Radio
Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:30:38 -0400


I read about this in Rolling Stone.  Yes, XM does indeed have eclectic
tastes.  I am excited and fearful in a small way of this at the same time,
though.

I rather like the attitude of the people running XM, I just hope their
concept floats (corporate radio tends to stink, let's do it better), this
could lead to another "WE decide what's hip" type of atmosphere, that could
become confining as what has preceded.

Did anyone else think of "Freberg Underground: Pay Radio" when they read
about Satellite Radio?

At least we don't have to ride around with DirecTV dishes on our cars,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member
Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:30:46 -0700


Does anyone have the survey question list?  (shaken not stirred, own a fez,
etc.)  I've got a lot of catching up to do to feel a part of your new
fangled computery mailing list group thingy.

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Subject: (exotica) Questions
Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:50:21 +0100


Doug,  looking back....

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain (personally, I think are you a DJ seems
> more list relevant these days)
> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
> 3. This list could help you more by...
> 4. Other exotica/things you collect
> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?
> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> Tell us more!
> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
> 9. Shaken or stirred?
> 10. I clean my LPs with ...
> 11. My home page URL is:
> 12. I have a Licence To ...
>
Cheers
El Maestro Con Queso

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Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 21 Sep 2001 07:03:49 -0700 (PDT)


I'm surprised Nina Hagen's New York New York did'nt make the list
but I guess it never did or will get airplay anyway.  They probably
never even heard of it.

E L i t B E,
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Subject: (exotica) Bedazzled
Date: 21 Sep 2001 15:05:10 +0100


My copy of this has turned up and my girlfriend has glued it to the
turntable.  The last reaction I had to an LP that was this favourable =
was
when I bought 'Get Carter', so theres been a lot of grumbling in the =
last 18
months.
Its very good,  I can see why Jane F was so leased when she got it.  =
Some
top groovy tunes,  some nice Bossa Nova action with Dud showing off =
over the
top. some hilarious lyrics,  I think Monty Python may have based an =
entire
Canon on the leaping nuns song,  and 'Bedazzled' itself which Peter =
Cook
sings deadpan is just wonderful 'You fill me with inertia',  'why don't =
you
leave off'.
I'm going to try playing the strip club song at a disco session =
tomorrow. =20
Well I think it will work.
I've got nothing to add to the bootleg question either way,  the sleeve =
does
look photocopied,  but they have added some text to it (a web site and =
some
charitable bits).  It is on the Harkit label,  which has been =
discussed.
Its quite a clean pressing, no dodgy business with the number in the =
groove.
so who knows.
No 23 out of 300 - I didn't get a copy with sparkles glued on the =
sleeves
:=AC(
What a good one,  I think its a shame that Dudley Moore didn't get to =
do
more OST's on this showing.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Questions
Date: 21 Sep 2001 10:24:40 -0700


Thanks El Maestro Con Queso for the questions.  You're the best.

Okay here we go.

 1. Are you a musician? Explain
    I'm an actor. (comedian not a comic)  Grew up watching mostly comedies,
spy, sci-fi and  mysteries on TV and guess I like songs that remind me of
old TV and movie background music.  I play piano, sing and used to play sax
in high school.
2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
    My brother gave me Esquivel's Space Age Pop cd, and I found the RCA
Space Age Pop compilations and thought, "Oh my God, I didn't know this stuff
existed" !  I've been searching for stuff like it ever since.
3. This list could help you more by...
    Keep on listing your favorite finds, and telling me where to buy LP's in
my new home area of New Jersey.
 4. Other exotica/things you collect
    Comedian biographies and TV books.  Used to collect comedy posters,
stills and wacky packages.
5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
    Spy, Crime, Space, Percussion, Wacky Stereo..wait, that's related
musical genres...um...The Flying Karamotzov Brother's juggling act.
6. What are you just dying to tell us?
    Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person.  Redbone, just got
sick of being Zappa and killed off the character.
7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
Tell us more!
    LP.  Can't find the good stuff on CD as much.  Also like to hear the
crackles and pops.  Reminds me of my youth.  Ah, life.
8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
    Yes, own a fez.  Was once a member of the L.A. tent "Way Out West" of
"The Sons Of The Desert" Laurel and Hardy group.
9. Shaken or stirred?
    Had my first martini last December at a "TV Funhouse" closing night
party.  I had stirred.  Gave me a headache the next day.  Guess I should
have had shaken.
10. I clean my LPs with ...
    Alcohol and paper towels.  A record store employee in LA told me to use
lighter fluid though.
11. My home page URL is:
    Don't have one.  Give me a break.  I just figured how to post on this
list.  Have had a cd-copying drive for over a year and haven't even been
able to figure out how to copy LPs yet.  I download into a wave file and the
darn software can't find it.  I'm pissed!  Sorry.  Is "pissed" a swear word?
12. I have a Licence To ...
    Drive.  Pretty boring, but wierd question.  Hate to leave on that note
so I'll leave on G Sharp.  Laaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

Your Pal,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Questions
Date: 21 Sep 2001 10:36:27 -0700


Thanks El Maestro Con Queso for the questions.  You're the best.

Okay here we go.

1. Are you a musician? Explain
    I'm an actor. (comedian not a comic)  Grew up watching mostly comedies,
spy, sci-fi and  mysteries on TV and guess I like songs that remind me of
old TV and movie background music.  I play piano, sing and used to play sax
in high school.
2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
    My brother gave me Esquivel's Space Age Pop cd, and I found the RCA
Space Age Pop compilations and thought, "Oh my God, I didn't know this stuff
existed" !  I've been searching for stuff like it ever since.
3. This list could help you more by...
    Keep on listing your favorite finds, and telling me where to buy LP's in
my new home area of New Jersey.
 4. Other exotica/things you collect
    Comedian biographies and TV books.  Used to collect comedy posters,
stills and wacky packages.
5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
    Spy, Crime, Space, Percussion, Wacky Stereo..wait, that's related
musical genres...um...The Flying Karamotzov Brother's juggling act.
6. What are you just dying to tell us?
    Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person.  Redbone, just got
sick of being Zappa and killed off the character.
7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
Tell us more!
    LP.  Can't find the good stuff on CD as much.  Also like to hear the
crackles and pops.  Reminds me of my youth.  Ah, life.
8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
    Yes, own a fez.  Was once a member of the L.A. tent "Way Out West" of
"The Sons Of The Desert" Laurel and Hardy group.
9. Shaken or stirred?
    Had my first martini last December at a "TV Funhouse" closing night
party.  I had stirred.  Gave me a headache the next day.  Guess I should
have had shaken.
10. I clean my LPs with ...
    Alcohol and paper towels.  A record store employee in LA told me to use
lighter fluid though.
11. My home page URL is:
    Don't have one.  Give me a break.  I just figured how to post on this
list.  Have had a cd-copying drive for over a year and haven't even been
able to figure out how to copy LPs yet.  I download into a wave file and the
darn software can't find it.  I'm pissed!  Sorry.  Is "pissed" a swear word?
12. I have a Licence To ...
    Drive.  Pretty boring, but wierd question.  Hate to leave on that note
so I'll leave on G Sharp.  Laaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

Your Pal,
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From: "Matthew Marchese" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member
Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:48:18 -0500


>Does anyone have the survey question list?  (shaken not stirred, own a fez,
>etc.)  I've got a lot of catching up to do to feel a part of your new
>fangled computery mailing list group thingy.

Do we have such a survey here? I've never seen it. Sounds like something
you'd be more likely to find on Yahoo's Tiki Central or Luxuria Music's old
site. My general experience on the list is that folks here are much more
interested in the tunes that they are in the trappings, although we've had
some...[ahem]..."spirited" discussions about various exotic drinks from time
to time as well as strange movies.

One of my greatest disappointments in living in the Upper Midwest is that
I've never been able to find a fez. A few years back, I had tried to put
together a public-access tv show called "Mr. Ghost Goes To the Movies". It
would've starred Yours Truly as the semitransparent host, Mr. Ghost who
would MC for films like "Superargo Vs. The Faceless Giants" and "Secret
Agent Super Dragon". I envisoned the character as a more diminuitive version
of Brother Cleve and looked everywhere for a fez and a velvet smoking jacket
to no avail.

The local Shriners seem to hold onto their fezzes tenaciously and pass them
down from generation to generation instead of donating them to Goodwill.
I've had to content myself with wearing my Mexican wrestling mask instead.

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Subject: (exotica) Gingerich!
Date: 21 Sep 2001 15:56:13 +0100


Phillip Gingerich mentioned in the Guardian Science section yesterday. Is
that you? University of Michigan?

Charlie

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Fez
Date: 21 Sep 2001 10:56:58 -0400


I've seen them once in a while at "antique stores" in Maryland.  They're =
not cheap!!  Still waiting to find one at a flea market.

BTW - There's a giant metal fez next to the roadside in Deleware en route =
to the beach - I've never stopped to pose next to it but must do it =
soon!!!

- Nate

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Subject: (exotica) whistling MP3s working
Date: 21 Sep 2001 07:58:34 -0700


here I go tootling my whistling horn again

I've uploaded a portion of complete MP3 tracks and they are working

clicking on a hyperlinked track will bring the music to you

Anybody not familar with musical whistling, please check them out.  a number
of these tracks fall squarely into the category of space age pop and
exotica, you may be pleasantly surprised.

may i suggest:

http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/jz.htm

also know as the Song Of The Nairobi trio (ernie kovacs), incredible cover

http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/mm02.htm

an album full of island favorites, all whistling by Muzzy Marcellino (Lassie
theme)

http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/fl04.htm

probably the best whistling album of them all by the greatest whistler of
them all

http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/ac02.htm

Bubbles in the Wine - you need Yellow Bird too, great record

http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/vb.htm

very creepy Ave Maria!!!

http://www.basichip.com/whistling/records/sj.htm

the hills are alive with the Sound of Music

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Gingerich!
Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:15:01 +0100


Sorry, did I mean Peter? Or was it Peter in yesterday's newspaper and
Phillip on the list?

I'm getting confused.

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From: "Matthew Marchese" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Brain In A Box
Date: 21 Sep 2001 10:16:31 -0500


I was most pleased to be gifted with Rhino's "Brain In A Box" CD set a
couple of weeks ago. I was wondering what others on the list thought of it.
Here are my impressions:

The packaging is phenomenal. Those holograms on the sides are simply the
coolest and cheesiest thing I've ever seen in CD packaging.

The little Brain In A Book that comes with the set is chockablock with great
pictures, interesting comments/essays, and a wealth of URLs to check out.

Overall, I was pretty happy with the music contained on the 5 CDs, but there
were several clinkers on each CD...can't please everyone, I guess. The movie
CD contains cool theremin-driven scores like the opening theme from
Forbidden Planet, but it veers off course later by covering mass-market
movie fodder like Terminator 2, Aliens, and E.T. I couldn't see any need to
include this kind of stuff.

The TV CD covered pretty much everything I wanted to hear from One Step
Beyond to Land of the Giants and Astro Boy. However, once again the
collection is derailed by the inclusion of very recent stuff such as the
X-Files theme and Babylon 5.

I have to say that my biggest disappointment was the Lounge CD. Much of the
music therein seemed bland and unadventurous compared to the other discs.
However, there were a handful of standout tracks like Moon Gas and Jean
Jacques Perrey's Cosmic Ballad.

The Pop and Novelty CDs seemed to be by far the best part of the collection,
but I am probably prejudiced having grown up on a steady musical diet of Dr.
Demento.

My favorite tracks? A hard call, but I find myself irresistibly being drawn
back to these two:

The religious hillbilly weirdness of "(When You See) Those Flying Saucers"
by the Buchanan Brothers & The Georgia Catamounts and "The Blob" by The Five
Blobs (featuring lyrics by Burt Bacarach!). My 7-year old daughter likes to
frug wildly to the latter.

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Subject: FW: (exotica) Fez
Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:23:41 +0100


> From this part of Europe its easier to go to North Africa and get one for
> yourself.
>
> Although I'm not sure it'd be the thing to be seen in for our American
> cousins...
>
>
> El Maestro Con Queso
>
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]
> http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
> http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/
>
>
>
> I've seen them once in a while at "antique stores" in Maryland.  They're
> not cheap!!  Still waiting to find one at a flea market.
>
> BTW - There's a giant metal fez next to the roadside in Deleware en route
> to the beach - I've never stopped to pose next to it but must do it
> soon!!!
>
> - Nate
>
> <<The local Shriners seem to hold onto their fezzes tenaciously and pass
> them
> down from generation to generation instead of donating them to Goodwill.
> I've had to content myself with wearing my Mexican wrestling mask
> instead.>>
>
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Fez
Date: 21 Sep 2001 09:16:24 -0700 (PDT)


check out the plain ones, Nate. under $25. $5 rebate
if you know the secret word of the day:

http://www.macoy.com/fezzes.html

--- Nathan Miner <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I've seen them once in a while at "antique stores"
> in Maryland.  They're not cheap!!  Still waiting to
> find one at a flea market.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Fez
Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:31:43 -0400



>I've seen them once in a while at "antique stores" in Maryland.  They're
>not cheap!!  Still waiting to find one at a flea market.

I spotted one (a fez) at a car show flea market a few months ago, but I
don't think ANY of you would want to place that moldy, greasy old thing on
your cabeza. Scary condition (which is a notch or three below poor
condition, technically speaking).

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Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member
Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:49:08 -0400


At 09:48 AM 9/21/01 -0500, Matthew Marchese wrote:
>
>The local Shriners seem to hold onto their fezzes tenaciously and pass them
>down from generation to generation instead of donating them to Goodwill.

I've never been a hat-man myself.  (I didn't even like wearing my helmet in
high school football and if they ever make a bicycle helmet a law up here,
I will be an outlaw.)
So anyway, if you had a fez, when would you wear it?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member
Date: 21 Sep 2001 12:44:34 -0500


alan zweig wrote:

> So anyway, if you had a fez, when would you wear it?

In bed, of course, while watching Jack Paar kinescopes (the ones they didn't
destroy).

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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cicciolina
Date: 21 Sep 2001 19:55:45 +0200


Just read a glowing Dutch review of the Sequel/Castle reissue of Ilona
Staller (Cicciolina) bizarre 1979 disco album praising it as highly cult.
Anyone knows it? Nicola? (I only found your Italian review through Google)

Arjan




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Subject: (exotica) PJ Proby
Date: 21 Sep 2001 20:08:22 +0200


And yes another question, could anyone recommend any PJ Proby album or
compilation for the novice? While listening to the radio at work last week I
found out our most popular tv weatherman is a big fan of him and really
recommended his coverversions (I only his version of Love Will Tear Us
Apart)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Fez attack....
Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:14:14 -0400




alan zweig wrote:

> So anyway, if you had a fez, when would you wear it?

While watching pornos and swilling beer!!  Just like they did!!!

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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Questions
Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:20:46 -0500



doug wrote:

Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person.  Redbone, just got
sick of being Zappa and killed off the character.
******************************************************

Is this true...for sure, really?????  I love Leon Redbone...I was
sorta scared of Zappa.....are you sure...well. it makes sense!  I am
just dumbfounded.  Am I the only one on the list that did not know
this?


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Subject: Re: (exotica) banned songs
Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:25:46 EDT



In a message dated 9/21/01 10:04:49 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I'm surprised Nina Hagen's New York New York did'nt make the list
but I guess it never did or will get airplay anyway.  They probably
never even heard of it. >>

I was just thinkin'...Not that it really matters, but shouldn't they have
tried to ADD songs that MIGHT coincide with the tragedy, rather than remove
questionably poor tasters? That should have easily brushed the detrius aside
on the weight of its own value. Although at the moment I can't think of
anything I'd add......

JB/Boston's supposed to be next


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone
Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:31:52 -0500


Colleen Pyles wrote:

> doug wrote:
>
> Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person.  Redbone, just got
> sick of being Zappa and killed off the character.
> ******************************************************
>
> Is this true...for sure, really?????

Sadly, no. Doug, he make the leetle joke. But Leon and Frank did have similar
sensibilities in many regards. For example, I saw Redbone last year and before
the show began, a weird atonal accordian riff kept playing from the PA system.
It repeated over and over again for 20 minutes. After a while, you could see
folks squirming in their seats because it was getting so damned annoying.
Finally, it broke into this incredibly weird eastern european polka/yodeling
thing and everyone in the audience breathed a huge collective sigh of relief. I
just hope that he doesn't discover subsonics on his next tour! He also does a
terrific shadow-puppet performance along with an old opera recording.

I've got tix to see Redbone again along with Leo Kottke next month, always a
great show.

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Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:34:37 EDT



In a message dated 9/21/01 2:09:02 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< could anyone recommend any PJ Proby album or

compilation for the novice?  >>

I've been a PJ guy since 1969...His poor man's Tom Jones approach is
irresistible. His emoting is often superceded by his stylings, but in a most
charming and well-meaning way. His minor hit "Hold Me" was the theme song
Summer '69 at a summer rental I and a few of my palz had on ol' Cape Cod. Of
course we would sing it as "Blow Me" but that's only because we were teens,
not the responsible adults we've since becum...I would say that to score an
LP by him would be the way to go...Like Tom Jones, the one I have "Somewhere
There's a Place for Us", is a veritable cavalcade of pop stylings circa 6T's
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone
Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:43:02 -0700



doug wrote:

 Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person.  Redbone, just got
 sick of being Zappa and killed off the character.
 ******************************************************

Colleen Pyles wrote:
 Is this true...for sure, really?????

Matt Marchese wrote:
 Sadly, no. Doug, he make the leetle joke.

Doug Writes:
Dear Matt,
Thanks for covering for me, man.





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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone
Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:15:31 -0400


My late-70s Leon Redbone story.

Actually the story came from a girl whose boyfriend was a car mechanic. He
did some work on Leon's car, noticed a batch of cassettes and thought,
"Hmmm, I wonder what music Leon listens to." He took a peek at the tapes
and found that Leon liked to listen to... Leon.

the end

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Satellite Radio
Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:19:04 -0400



>http://www.xmradio.com/

Interesting. I don't quite understand the fine points of how it works (the
website is pretty vague, all pr-speak), but it sort of puts me in mind of
Muzak channels for consumer use.

Parenthetically:
http://www.muzak.com/


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Subject: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike
Date: 21 Sep 2001 13:32:06 -0700 (PDT)


Bombay Jazz Palace v/a outcast (2001)
This is a fantastic Raga/Sitar comp!  My highest rating even though
I have some cuts on it.  The 14 songs on it raga out with nice
sitar drenched vibes.  Most are uptemmpo grooves that would sound
hot on the dance floors around the globe.  Artists include Paul
Horn & Nexus, Volker Kriegel, Georges Cavarenez,Dave Mackay, Dave
Pike Set, Between, Lalo Schifrin, Groupo Batuque, Yves Hyat,
Shocking Blue, Shandar Family, Shankar-Jaikishan, Anada Shankar &
Muhavisha Ravie Hatchud & the Indo Hazz Following.  Get this and
you won't be disappointed.

Got mine from http:www.othermusic.com

Dave Pike Set "Masterpieces"  Motor Music 1996
I have been rocked out by the raga jazz fusion of the Dave Pike Set
"Masterpieces"  This is a great comp! Fusion with the great Volker
Kreigel doing wa wa & fuzzed out guitar solos and Dave Pike's
wonderful stylings on vibes.  It covers Dave Pikes years in Germany
on the MPS label, 1969-72.  I'm assuming these are Dave Pike's best
years.

Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations.  Is his new album
any good?  I have "Times Out of Mind".
Thanks for any help.

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Subject: (exotica) Custom Hand Carved Tikis can be made for you today in Florida
Date: 21 Sep 2001 14:17:50 -0700 (PDT)


While driving near Pensacola Florida I saw all these hand carved
Tikis on the road side.  I thought it was a hallucination but we
turned around the car and went to meet the owner.  It turns out
that Carlos Noche has been carving custom TIKIS for fourteen years
or so!   I spoke with him for a while and he is a real nice guy.
He knows only a little about the modern Tiki culture.  On his desk
was the Don Tiki cd and a great book called Hawaiiana, a Schiffer
Book for Collectors which is available at Amazon.com.  He is a real
artist and his Tikis are first class!  He had a whole bunch in a
truck to be delivered and said they sold very well.  I took some
great pictures of the place.

Carlos Noche can be reached at 850-934-6803 or

[e-mail]

4782 Gulf Breeze Pkwy
Gulf Breeze,   FL
32563

Also while driving to Quebec from Montreal on the north side of the
St Lawrence, about 2 3rds of the way to Quebec,  my friend noticed
a wonderful Tiki Bar.  We turned around went in and it was all
decked out straight from 1958, unchanged.  Tiki mugs of all kinds
to to drink out of and some looked old. I don't have the pictures
with me and forgot the name but again I have some great pictures.
The place had imitation 1950's velvet Hawaiin girl paintings on the
wall.  Fantastic Tikis inside and out.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Questions
Date: 21 Sep 2001 17:31:22 -0400


At 01:20 PM 9/21/01 -0500, Colleen Pyles wrote:
>
>
>doug wrote:
>
>Frank Zappa and Leon Redbone are the same person.  Redbone, just got
>sick of being Zappa and killed off the character.
>******************************************************
>
>Is this true...for sure, really?????  I love Leon Redbone...I was
>sorta scared of Zappa.....are you sure...well. it makes sense!  I am
>just dumbfounded.  Am I the only one on the list that did not know
>this?

No but it seems you're the only one who actually entertains the idea of
believing it.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone
Date: 21 Sep 2001 17:34:28 -0400


At 04:15 PM 9/21/01 -0400, M.Ace wrote:
>
>My late-70s Leon Redbone story.

Apparently Mr.Redbone denies having any identity other than the present
one.  And any past.  But once upon a time he was a "folkie" in Toronto.
Like Raffi.
Maybe he's actually Raffi.

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From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Redbone
Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:30:52 -0500


alan zweig wrote:

> Maybe he's actually Raffi.

I wish. At least then I'd feel better about having been forced to listen to
"Baby Beluga" 300 or 400 times while my son was a toddler.

Of course that pales in comparison to having to listen to that kiddy album that
Cheech Marin put out a while back...

--
Matt Marchese
"I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a
nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate)
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike
Date: 21 Sep 2001 17:39:02 -0400


At 01:32 PM 9/21/01 -0700, chuck wrote:
>Dave Pike Set "Masterpieces"  Motor Music 1996
>I have been rocked out by the raga jazz fusion of the Dave Pike Set
>"Masterpieces"  This is a great comp
>Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations.  Is his new album
>any good?  I have "Times Out of Mind".

I've gone through a number of Dave Pike records, including some very
cool-looking ones, looking for even one cut as cool as the sitar-laden
thing I once heard by him. But none of them came anywhere close.  I think
this is it for him.  One great anomaly.  But then many of our faves here
are one-off anomalies.
Most of the time Dave Pike was a so-so easy listening jazz vibes player.
In fact I'd go so far as to say that if you get a record home and find out
that you bought Dave Pell instead of Dave Pike, you probably didn't do any
worse.
And there are better so-so easy listening vibes artists.
Like Johnny Lyttle.

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Date: 21 Sep 2001 18:28:34 EDT



In a message dated 9/21/01 5:27:24 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< No but it seems you're the only one who actually entertains the idea of
believing it. >>

Sometimes believing is seeing


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In a message dated 9/21/01 5:29:28 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Maybe he's actually Raffi. >>

Raffi of "Marble Breaks And Iron Bends" on London circa 1965?


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Date: 21 Sep 2001 18:32:15 EDT



In a message dated 9/21/01 5:33:54 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Like Johnny Lyttle. >>

I just picked up a Johnny Lytle/Ray Barretto collaboration LP from
'64...Monstrous to say the least...I also picked up a sitar single of an old
Dave Pike thing on a new 45 7" label called Seven-UP....Monstrous to be
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike
Date: 21 Sep 2001 15:48:11 -0700




alan zweig wrote:
>
> At 01:32 PM 9/21/01 -0700, chuck wrote:
> >Dave Pike Set "Masterpieces"  Motor Music 1996
> >I have been rocked out by the raga jazz fusion of the Dave Pike Set
> >"Masterpieces"  This is a great comp
> >Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations.  Is his new album
> >any good?  I have "Times Out of Mind".
>
> I've gone through a number of Dave Pike records, including some very
> cool-looking ones, looking for even one cut as cool as the sitar-laden
> thing I once heard by him. But none of them came anywhere close.  I think
> this is it for him.  One great anomaly.

This is sad to hear.  The two tracks by the Dave Pike Set on the
"Talkin' Jazz 2" compilation, sitar driven "Mathar" and distorted organ
fusion "Big Schlepp", are very fine.  These are my only encounters with
Dave Pike, but they impressed me enough to keep his name in memory.

--crymad


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Date: 21 Sep 2001 19:05:49 EDT



In a message dated 9/21/01 6:58:38 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Dave Pike Set  sitar driven "Mathar" >>

that's it...the newly re-released 7" single on Seven-Up records...sitar
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From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Re: Zappa/Redbone
Date: 21 Sep 2001 21:38:56 -0500



---- Begin Original Message ----
Noooo, I'm not embarrassed.  I just feel like an idiot and I may have
to go back to lurking for months!  Just when I think I am soooo
savvy, I am proven soooo naive.

Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:45:57 -0700


Colleen,

Sorry. =A0I'm new. =A0I should be more careful mixing facts and
jokes. =A0Hope I
didn't embaress you.

Doug



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From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) -cats sittin' around talkin'
Date: 22 Sep 2001 09:37:46 -0400


Hi,

Fellow Exotica list member John C and I will be subbing on WJUL tonight,
Saturday, between 9PM and Midnight. So listen in if your on the PC.

WJUL is pretty loose, we like to have fun, so all local exotica list members
are welcome to come on up. Hey its Saturday night. Too bad we can't drink on
campus.
The following web pages will give you all the details
http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/about.html and http://www.uml.edu/

John digs George Shearing and lets see what else he brings up.

Domenic Ciccone
"Martinis with Mancini" WJUL Lowell 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST
http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/
http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio)


Playlist
September 21, 2001
Martinis With Mancini



Brief And Breezy, Henry Mancini<Br>
The Party's Over, Shirley Bassey
This Could Be The Start Of Something Big, Steve Allen
You And The Night And The Music, Mel Torme
Brass On The Rebound, Danny Davis, Arr Marty Manning
I Want To Be Evil, Eartha Kitt
Caravan, Martin Denny
Amado Mio, Pink Martini
Come Rain Or Come Shine, Les Elgart
Cha Cha Cha Du Loup, Mambo Miam Miam, Serge Gainsbourg
Bluesettte, Laurindo Almeida
It Takes A Thief, Chaquito
Willow Weep For Me, Nina Simone
She's A Woman, (W-O-M-A-N-) Sammy Davis Jr
Someday, Dean Martin,
Come Fly With Me, Frank Sinatra
Samba De Orfeo, Living Brass
Jose, Lee Hazelwood
The Lonely Bull, Herb Albert
The Bullfighter, Ken Nordine
Barney Does It All, Lalo Schrifin
Pussy Cat, Howard Roberts
Coffee, Randy Klien's Jazzheads
Session At Pete's Pad, Henry Mancini
Vertigogo, Combustible Edison
Poinciana, Esquivel
Good Luck Charm, Cocktail Angst
Something For Cat, 4 Piece Suit
Italiano A Go-Go Sammy Kaye
Somewhere In This Town, Seks Bomba
Fever, Dave's True Story
Tearaway Brass, Beyy Page Comp
'Tainy What You Do, Sizenter And Johnny Mann Singers
Snowman's Stomp Blow Up Comp 1
Pink Panther Theme, Henry Mancini
Go Go Sitar, Kahana Kawentzmann
Green Eyes Cha Cha, Enoch Light
Secret Agent Man, Hugo Montenegro
Last Of The Secret Agents, Nancy Sinatra
Girls In Paris, Lee Hazelwood
Make Me Rainbows, Johnny Williams
Sampson And Delilah, Johnny Williams
Taboo, The Whodads
Martin Denny, Gongo Train
Sunder..Whatever,Martin Bottcher
Thunderball, Inbred Hoffmann
Bert's Bossa Nova, Bert Kaempfert
But I'm Not, Ellsworth And Hicks
The New James Bond, Eddie From Ohio
Blues For Pussy, Sounds Orchestral
Fun Shopping, Arling And Cameron
Shopping Spree, Laurie Johnson
The Mafista, Neil Hefti
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Date: 22 Sep 2001 09:36:57 EDT



In a message dated 9/21/01 10:41:21 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I just feel like an idiot and I may have

to go back to lurking for months!   >>

Hell no! don't go...your interest supercedes the need to be a fact
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From: "Otis Fodder" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Interstellar Cafe
Date: 22 Sep 2001 07:32:37 -0700


Hey Folks,

Opened up a new domain, Interstellar Cafe at http://www.interstellarcafe.com

Moved over the Friendly Persuasion radio show site, plus Audio Archives and
more.

There will be many mp3 archives coming soon.

Set up a closed announcement list if you are interested to be notified when
new audio archives appear, http://www.interstellarcafe.com/mailinglist.html

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) anyone knows the nationality of Torrero Brass?
Date: 23 Sep 2001 12:34:34 +0200


I'm working on a new Radio "Fantastica"/ ExoticaRing comp, feauring
nice & crazy music from Belgium. i'd like to know if Torrero Brass,
or its arranger, is Belgian or not. this is currently all i know
about the band/record:

* Torrero Brass: "Opera & Operette Tijuana style"
    label: Grand Gala stereo GG 0 014, probably released end
1960's or early 70's
    arranger: J. Dufourny (name sounds Belgian/ French)

this LP appeared in Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, and maybe other
countries as well.

I did various searches on the net (google, yahoo, allmusic, amazon,
local mysuc sites...) but nada. any help would be much appreciated!

    thanx!

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Langley Schools Music Project
Date: 23 Sep 2001 10:57:28 -0400


From our Ol' Pal Irwin comes this info:



THE LANGLEY SCHOOLS MUSIC PROJECT
"Innocence and Despair"

October 23 North American release - Bar/None Records
October 9 European release - Basta Audio-Visuals

info, pics, and sound samples:
http://keyofz.com/keyofz/langley/


The 19 tracks on THE LANGLEY SCHOOLS MUSIC PROJECT document a 60-voice
chorus of rural Canadian school children, age 9-12, recorded in 1976-1977.
Technically untrained but mesmerized by melodic magic, the students sing
from-the-heart renditions of tunes by the BEACH BOYS, Paul McCartney, DAVID
BOWIE, Fleetwood Mac, the Bay City Rollers, and others.  They accompany
themselves with the shimmering gamelan-like chimes of Orff percussion
instruments and elemental rock trimmings arranged by their "gypsy" music
teacher, Hans Fenger.

These recordings, caught on 2-track tape in a Western Canada school gym,
weren't staged to achieve money or fame, sell albums or land a record
contract. These kids played music because they loved it. Innocent, flawed
and bittersweet, guided by Fenger's unsuspecting genius, these recordings
brim with charm and adolescent elan, sparked by flashes of lo-fi Spectorian
majesty and PET SOUNDS subtlety. Call it folk art, outsider, or campfire
rock -- the labels don=B9t matter. These are gorgeous, heavenly artifacts.

The Langley Schools Music Project was produced for first commercial issue by
IRWIN CHUSID (Raymond Scott, Esquivel, Shaggs, Songs in the Key of Z). The
package includes a 16-page color booklet detailing the story of the
recordings, and includes photos of the kids in action. The tracks were newly
remastered and reverberate with an astonishing range of fidelity.

These recordings were originally contained on two 12" LPs, pressed in a
limited run for students, classmates, teachers, and parents. They were never
intended for exposure outside the Langley region. However, under a trustee
arrangement with Langley School District #35, royalty payments from the sale
of this CD will be used to finance music scholarship or purchase instruments
for the schools and/or pay pro-rated shares to participating former
students.=20


COMMENTS ABOUT THE LANGLEY SCHOOLS MUSIC PROJECT

"The backing arrangement is astounding. Coupled with the earnest if
lugubrious vocal performance you have a piece of art that I couldn't have
conceived of, even with half of Colombia's finest export products in me."
   --David Bowie (on the Langley students'
         rendition of "Space Oddity")

"The effect of all those young voices singing 'Calling Occupants' is
charming."
   --Richard Carpenter

"This is beauty. This is truth. This is music that touches the heart in a
way no other music ever has, or ever could."
   --John Zorn

"The Langley Schools Music Project is the celebration of passion over skill.
They understand these songs better than the people that wrote them. This is
real folk music."
   --Penn Jillette (Penn and Teller)

"It is very evident that the [Orff] instruments were not used as they would
be used in the Orff-Schulwerk approach. AOSA has no desire to be connected
with this recording ... Thank you for your interest in the American
Orff-Schulwerk Association."
   --Executive Director
      American Orff-Schulwerk Association (AOSA)


tracks:
1) Venus and Mars/Rock Show (Paul McCartney & Wings)
02) Good Vibrations (The Beach Boys)
03) God Only Knows (The Beach Boys)
04) Space Oddity (David Bowie)
05) The Long and Winding Road (The Beatles)
06) Band On The Run Paul McCartney & Wings)
07) In My Room (The Beach Boys)
08) I'm Into Something Good (Earl-Jean/Herman's Hermits)
09) Saturday Night (Bay City Rollers)
10) I Get Around (The Beach Boys)
11) Mandy (Barry Manilow)
12) Help Me, Rhonda (The Beach Boys)
13) Desperado (The Eagles)
14) You're So Good To Me (The Beach Boys)
15) Sweet Caroline (Neil Diamond)
16) To Know Him Is To Love Him (Teddy Bears)
17) Rhiannon (Fleetwood Mac)
18) You're Sixteen * (Johnny Burnette/Ringo Starr)
19) Little Deuce Coupe * (The Beach Boys)
20) Wildfire (Michael Martin Murphy)
21) Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft (The Recognized Anthem of
World Contact Day) (Klaatu/The Carpenters)

total time: 68:41

[* bonus tracks on Basta edition]





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From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone
Date: 23 Sep 2001 10:44:10 -0500


AZ wrote:

No but it seems you're the only one who actually entertains the idea
of
believing it.

~~~~~~~~~

Since I use this list as a learning tool. I am afraid I believe every
word you guys say, I AM your humble student.


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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Satellite Radio
Date: 23 Sep 2001 10:51:09 -0500



---- Begin Original Message ----

I have 30-something music channels and my direct tv satellite
system.  Although I love the music, there is a sterility about it.  I
find I miss the banter, opinions, and the general b.s. of a d.j.
Apparently satellite radio has d.j.'s, so I am ready for it.

Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 16:19:04 -0400




>http://www.xmradio.com/

Interesting. I don't quite understand the fine points of how it works
(the
website is pretty vague, all pr-speak), but it sort of puts me in
mind of
Muzak channels for consumer use.

Parenthetically:
http://www.muzak.com/


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Date: 23 Sep 2001 12:09:04 EDT



In a message dated 9/23/01 11:46:19 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Since I use this list as a learning tool. I am afraid I believe every

word you guys say, I AM your humble student. >>

therein lies your folly....there is no expert, no ultimate dispenser of
wisdom...relax and enjoy. AND above all, be YOU! We all love the idea of
you...Now become you...Love you, JB


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Date: 23 Sep 2001 12:05:08 EDT



In a message dated 9/23/01 10:59:41 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< These recordings, caught on 2-track tape in a Western Canada school gym,

weren't staged to achieve money or fame, sell albums or land a record

contract. These kids played music because they loved it. Innocent, flawed

and bittersweet, guided by Fenger's unsuspecting genius, these recordings

brim with charm and adolescent elan, sparked by flashes of lo-fi Spectorian

majesty and PET SOUNDS subtlety. Call it folk art, outsider, or campfire

rock -- the labels don1t matter. These are gorgeous, heavenly artifacts.


The Langley Schools Music Project was produced for first commercial issue by

IRWIN CHUSID (Raymond Scott, Esquivel, Shaggs, Songs in the Key of Z). The

package includes a 16-page color booklet detailing the story of the

recordings, and includes photos of the kids in action. The tracks were newly

remastered and reverberate with an astonishing range of fidelity.


Why  not call it "Cool & Strange Pebbles"?  jb/kinda yawnin'...but it may be
a taker!


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone
Date: 23 Sep 2001 12:46:59 -0400


At 10:44 AM 9/23/01 -0500, Colleen Pyles wrote:
.>
>Since I use this list as a learning tool. I am afraid I believe every
>word you guys say, I AM your humble student.
.
Well I can sort of understand.  We've had issues before on this very list
when there were misunderstandings partly because online, tone of voice and
other nuances are lost.
I've had those problems myself.  People misreading my sarcasm or deadpan
humor.
This new member Doug did announce himself as either a comic or a comedian
(though he didn't explain the distinction).
(Actually this isn't unprecedented on this list. I think our former member
BJ was simply one of the great put-down comedians of all time.  She was
sort of like that Stuttering John guy on Howard Stern.  Brilliant at
getting people angry at her.  It was all a show.I admit I fell for it.
Fell right into her trap.  If only I'd seen that glint in her eye when she
made all those ridiculous statements.)
(And my friend Moritz was just a German Brother Theodore.)

But still, to believe Doug, you'd have to believe that Frank Zappa's death
was a hoax like Elvis's or the moon landing or Celine Dion's pregnancy or
John Travolta impregnating his own wife or that story I heard last week
involving David Lynch and Butterfinger candy bars.

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From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 23
Date: 23 Sep 2001 13:45:27 -0400


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #160   Music Of Other Worlds

On this week's show, we're going to attempt to take you to away from the
stress and the strain of what is going on around us, and look to other
sources of musical inspiration, maybe in another world...

Joe Meek & The Blue Men:  I Hear A New World  "I Hear A New World"
Joe Meek & The Blue Men:  Orbit Around The Moon  "I Hear A New World"
Organisation:  Silver Forest  "Tone Float"
Lucia Pamela:  Walking On The Moon  "Into Outer Space With Lucia Pamela"

Tom Dissevelt & Kid Baltan:  Song Of The Second Moon  "Electronic Toys 2"
Bruce Haack:  War  "Hush Little Robot"
Jean Jacques Perrey:  La panth=E8re cosmique  "Moog Sensations"
Bruce Haack:  Electric To Me Turn  "Hush Little Robot"

Jean Jacques Perrey:  Coeur synth=E9tique  "Moog Sensations"
Tom Dissevelt & Kid Baltan:  Sonik Re-Entry  "Electronic Toys 2"
Solid Eye:  Flag Etiquette  "Electromagnetic Field & Stream Of
Consciousness"
Walter Sear:  Circuit Breaker  "Electronic Toys 2"

Mort Garson:  The Ride Of Rida  "Electronic Toys 2"
Frank Comstock & His Orchestra:  Galaxy   "Project: Comstock"
Jean Jacques Perrey:  A=E9rolithe alpha  "Moog Sensations"
Joe Meek & The Blue Men:  Disc Dance Of The Globbots  "I Hear A New World=
"
Philip Brophy:  Alien  "The Cavern Of Deep Tones"

Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening

[e-mail]
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From: "Doug Dale" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone
Date: 23 Sep 2001 14:03:27 -0700


Alan Zweig wrote:  This new member Doug did announce himself as either a
comic or a comedian (though he didn't explain the distinction).

Gene Wilder said that he is a comedian (a person who says things funny).
That is me.  A Comic is one who says funny things.

That is the error of my post.  I say the Redbone/Zappa connection funny but
to write it funny, I need to hire a comic.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) #22 ISSUE OF COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC MAGAZINE IS HERE!
Date: 23 Sep 2001 20:28:14 -0400


From our pal Dana comes this:
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#22 ISSUE OF COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC MAGAZINE IS HERE!

 OUR NEWEST ISSUE! 64 PAGES OF MUSICAL COOLNESS!=20
WITH EIGHT PAGES OF DAZZLING COLOR, IT'S ANOTHER EYE-OPENING ISSUE!

Loaded with new, informative articles on the coolest and strangest music you=
=20
never thought you'd hear about, this issue features a 4-color cover, lots of=
=20
high-quality photos, tons of new wacky and weird CD reviews, and it's more=
=20
fun than a karaoke party with William Shatner!=20

This issue features:


The RESIDENTS

=A0 America's most famous unknown musical outfit has been perfecting their=
=20
bizarre sound for thirty years, bewildering fans and critics alike.=20

=A0 Throughout their colorful career they've employed everything from tape=
=20
manipulation to toy instruments to synthesizers in their delightfully=
 twisted=20
material. Although elements of their curious formula have influenced a=
 number=20
of recent bands, no one sounds quite like the Residents!=20

=A0 The identities of the individual members have never been divulged and=20
they shun media interviews, but Wilhelm Murg talks with Hardy Fox of the=20
Cryptic Corporation (the Residents' company) and sheds some light on the=20
story behind this enigmatic group!=20


BUXOTICA! The MUSIC Of RUSS MEYER'S FILMS


=A0 While his films obviously offer plenty to look at, they contain some=
 cool=20
and strange treats to listen to as well. Curtis Cottrell explores the=20
soundtrack side of Meyer's work, highlighting the various musical cohorts=20
that he's worked with over the years.=20

=A0 From early efforts like The Immoral Mr. Teas to such later cult=
 favorites=20
as Mudhoney, Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! and Beyond the=C2=A0 Valley of=
 the=20
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something to move to.=20

=A0 Get the lowdown on the behind-the-scenes music makers, including Hal=20
Hopper, Igo Kantor, Lynn Carey, Stu Phillips, and the Strawberry Alarm=
 Clock.=20
It's everything you've ever wanted to know about Russ Meyer film music but=
=20
never thought to ask!=20


CLEVELAND RECORD STORES =20

=A0 If your travel plans are taking you by Cleveland, you won't want to be=
=20
without this issue's Cool And Strange Record Store Report.=20

=A0 After visiting the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, you'll surely want to put=
=20
in some record shopping time. Aaron Milenski reveals the prime spots to find=
=20
cool and strange vinyl, CDs, and offbeat videos!=20


The SINGING NUN=20

=A0 Known in Europe as S=C5=93ur Sourire ("Sister Smile"), the Singing Nun=
 found=20
international acclaim with her 1963 hit "Dominique." The song eclipsed=
 "Louie=20
Louie" on the charts and turned her life into a Hollywood caliber story=20
filled with publicity, controversy, and tragedy.=20

=A0 From the 1965 Debbie Reynolds film to the early '80s disco version of=20
"Dominique", Jean Thilmany covers the remarkable saga of this angel-voiced=
=20
sensation!=20


Modern Artist Profile: QUINTRON =20

=A0 Within the depths of the Big Easy, the mysterious organist Quintron has=
=20
been stirring up a musical gumbo of avant garde noise, primitive techno,=20
voodoo lounge, and even pre-show puppeteering.=20

=A0 Peter George and Curtis Cottrell attempt to unravel the facts=
 surrounding=20
this inventive New Orleans musician and his technological creation, The Drum=
=20
Buddy.=20

=A0 Learn about Miss Pussycat and her puppets, meet the Drum Buddyettes, and=
=20
wish you could witness the spectacle of Mr. Quintron!=20

BRUTE FORCE

=A0 Definitely a cool and strange fellow, the odd legacy of cult favorite=20
Brute Force began when Columbia released the quirky Confections of Love on=
 an=20
unsuspecting public in 1968. With songs like "Tapeworm of Love" and "To Sit=
=20
On A Sandwich," his warped cosmic cabaret pop continues to mystify.=20

=A0 He's really Stephen Friedland, and before embarking on his bizarre solo=
=20
career he'd written songs for such acts as the Chiffons, the Cyrkle, Del=20
Shannon, the Creation, and the Tokens. Brute Force even released a rare and=
=20
controversial single, "The King of Fuh," on the Beatles' Apple label.=20

=A0 Michael Greenberg catches up with Mr. Friedland and sorts out this=20
overlooked and eccentric artist's career!=20


STEVE MARCH TORM=C3=89=20

=A0 In a field where most of his contemporaries are septuagenarians, Steve=
=20
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 singing.=20

=A0 As the offspring of the legendary Mel Torm=C3=A9, it's not surprising=
 that=20
he's found his calling at the mic as well. The young Torm=C3=A9 is forging=
 his own=20
style of jazz singing and songwriting, and he chats with C&SM regular Ed Kaz=
=20
about the power of torch songs, doing Name That Tune, and singing in the=20
shadow of the Velvet Fog.=20

The KIDS Of WIDNEY HIGH =20

=A0Special Ed teacher Michael Monagan started a songwriting class in the=
 late=20
'80s at L.A.'s Widney High, and happened upon a brand of magic that rarely=
=20
surfaces in the pop music world.=20

=A0 With a rotating lineup of developmentally disabled students, they craft=
=20
unique and refreshingly sincere songs that is certainly, to quote their=
 debut=20
CD, 'Special Music from Special Kids.'=20

=A0 Learn the inspiring story behind this exceptional project as Rich=
 Wilhelm=20
profiles one of the few groups who can claim fans as diverse as Smokey=20
Robinson, Mike Patton (Faith No More / Mr. Bungle), and Bob McGrath (Sesame=
=20
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VIC FLICK=20

=A0 If you've seen any of the early James Bond films, then you've heard Vic=
=20
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 in=20
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swingin' secret agents.=20

=A0 He has an impressive resum=C3=A9 of session work with such greats as=
 Henry=20
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=20
on everything from cartoons to documentaries.=20

=A0 Rod M. Lott turns the spotlight on this veteran musician and uncovers=
 the=20
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SPARKS

=A0 Brothers Ron and Russell Mael, two enormously talented wiseacres from=20
L.A., have been delivering fascinating slabs of surreal pop since 1970.=20

=A0 They've inspired countless bands, predicted several modern music trends,=
=20
and worked with such figures as Todd Rundgren, electro-pop arranger Giorgio=
=20
Moroder, and Honk Kong director Tsui Hark, but they still remain an obscure=
=20
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=20
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ARTHUR FIEDLER & The BOSTON POPS=20

=A0 Our Cover-Mania! Photo Spread for this issue looks at the many faces of=
=20
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=20

=A0 Whether the Pops were tackling Latin favorites, cowboy classics, songs=
 of=20
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 the=20
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obits] roundup
Date: 23 Sep 2001 22:32:52 -0400


30 August
Julie Bishop, titian-haired actress who appeared in 84 movies opposite such
stars as Humphrey Bogart and John Wayne from 1923 to 1957 and in the television
series "My Hero" with Bob Cummings in the early 1950s.Bishop, who also acted
under her birth name of Jacqueline Wells, died of
pneumonia on her 87th birthday

 1 September
   Renowned R&B tenor saxophonist Sylvester "Sil" Austin of natural causes.
He was 71.

http://www.povonline.com/COL365.htm
Johnny Craig, EC Comics artist. 75.

11 September
Nate Budnick ,age 84. Nate was Larry Fine's brother-in-law and served as the
Stooges soundman for their live appearances during the mid-1960's.

Wednesday, 12 September
  Victor Wong, actor ("Big Trouble in Little China"), 74.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local13_20010914.html
 Hatsuko Kikuhara, a master of traditional Japanese music who was designated
a living national treasure, died of pneumonia Wednesday at the age of 102.

Saturday, 15 September
  Fred De Cordova, TV producer ("The Tonight Show"), 90. producer-director
who worked with Johnny Carson, Jack Benny,
Burns & Allen, and Ronald Regan (with Bonzo the chimp)
  Richard Fegley, photographer ("Playboy"), after a long illness, 64.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/16/obituaries/16JOHN.html
Raymond E. Johnson, Radio Host, Dies at 90 a versatile radio and stage actor
who provided a signature moment for radio as the ghoulish host with the
creaking door in the long-running "Inner Sanctum". He was 90.

Sunday, 16 September
  Samuel Z. Arkoff, film producer ("Force 10 From Navarone"), of natural
causes, 80. movie producer and founder of American International Pictures
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010917/re/leisure_arkoff_dc_1.html

Tuesday, 25 September
  Ernie Coombs, TV host ("Mr. Dressup"), 73.

Saturday, 22 September
  Isaac Stern, violinist, of heart failure, 81.

And since I can't type in all 6333 names of those lost in the WTC disaster,
please allow me to enter the names of the 12 members of my local fire
station, Park Slope's Squad #1, who are still missing: Captain Jim Amato,
Brian Bilcher, Gary Box, Tom Butler, Pete Carroll, Rob Cardice, Ed D'Atri,
Mike Esposito, Dave Fontana, Matt Garvey, Mike Russo, Steve Siller.




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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone
Date: 23 Sep 2001 22:18:16 -0500



---- Begin Original Message ----


Naw, Doug, I just need to wise up...it was really funny, it's funnier
still that I fell for it!  I mean...I was really comparing them in my
mind...think about it, have you ever seen them together...Well have
you??!!

Sent: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:03:27 -0700



Alan Zweig wrote: =A0This new member Doug did announce himself as
either a
comic or a comedian (though he didn't explain the distinction).

Gene Wilder said that he is a comedian (a person who says things
funny).
That is me. =A0A Comic is one who says funny things.

That is the error of my post. =A0I say the Redbone/Zappa connection
funny but
to write it funny, I need to hire a comic.

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From: "Brian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike recommendations
Date: 23 Sep 2001 23:38:18 -0400


Chuck wrote:
> Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations.
I'm assuming you mean other than Got the Feelin' on Wagram. No Sitar, just
vibes, but highly recommended nonetheless!

> Also while driving to Quebec from Montreal on the north side of the
> St Lawrence, about 2 3rds of the way to Quebec,  my friend noticed
> a wonderful Tiki Bar.
Chuck can you tell me about where this is. I assume it is past Trois
Rivieres? I've taken both north and south shore routes, although I must
admit the last time we went to Quebec was so long ago, we weren't looking
for Tiki bars! Actually its been too long and a return visit is long
overdue, so this may be a excuse to stop along the way...

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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone
Date: 24 Sep 2001 01:28:52 -0400


At 10:11 PM 9/23/01 -0500, Colleen Pyles wrote:
>AZ said:      "But still, to believe Doug, you'd have to believe that
>Frank Zappa's death
>was a hoax like Elvis's or the moon landing or Celine Dion's
>pregnancy or
>John Travolta impregnating his own wife or that story I heard last
>week
>involving David Lynch and Butterfinger candy bars."
>******
>
>Ummm...are any of these False?

I believe one of them is.

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From: Charles Moseley <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Bombay Jazz Palace & Dave Pike
Date: 24 Sep 2001 10:34:10 +0100


"I've gone through a number of Dave Pike records, including some very
cool-looking ones, looking for even one cut as cool as the sitar-laden
thing I once heard by him."

If you want more of Dave Pike's sitar stuff you need to listen to Volker
Kreigel - Pike's sitar and guitar player who made records of his own. And
Pike's Infra Red is a great LP as is Got the Feeling. Both mix funky jazz
with some freestyling that goes over the top now and then but generally is
pretty restrained.

Charlie

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Subject: (exotica) London Calling
Date: 24 Sep 2001 12:27:25 +0100


Hi all


not often i post but i thought since loads of stuff seems to go on in the
States and nothin' seems to happen in London ( either that or you're not
inviting me ) that i would alert London Exoticats to a few things they might
be interested in.

Seem to recall a thread a while back about James Taylor Quartet, just in case
you are interested, they are playing the Mean fiddler on Oct 4th. Whoever
started that thread said they were excellent live, as i recall.

You might want to check out the www.thehorsehospital.com - looks like they are
having a few events that would be of interest to listers. I found out about
the horse hospital from a shop called Last Chance saloon in Lower marsh at the
back of Waterloo. if you've never been there, its well worth a look. They
carry all sorts of counter culture stuff, literature, clothes, art,
housewares. They usually carry a massive selection of Vince Ray and Coop
merchandise.

They are relocating soon, so apologies if you visit and find them closed.

If anyone else in London hears of anything that would be of interest to the
list can you please post details.

BTW did anyone go to the Tiki central thing at Trader Vics?

Be seeing you.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone
Date: 24 Sep 2001 15:08:18 -0400



>Since I use this list as a learning tool. I am afraid I believe every
>word you guys say

That sounds like a recipe for trouble!


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Questions about Redbone
Date: 24 Sep 2001 15:08:43 -0400


At 12:46 PM 09/23/2001, Alan wrote:
>(Actually this isn't unprecedented on this list. I think our former member
>BJ was simply one of the great put-down comedians of all time.  She was
>sort of like that Stuttering John guy on Howard Stern.  Brilliant at
>getting people angry at her. It was all a show. I admit I fell for it.

You're a sick puppy, Charlie Brown.


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From: [e-mail] (Bump Stadelman)
Subject: (exotica) Lets Play, Musical Chills (article: music and the brain)
Date: 24 Sep 2001 17:57:26 -0400


something obvious now scientifically proven...

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010924/hl/music_brain_2.html

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike recommendations
Date: 24 Sep 2001 18:39:02 -0400



> > Does anyone have any Dave Pike recommendations.
>I'm assuming you mean other than Got the Feelin' on Wagram. No Sitar, just
>vibes, but highly recommended nonetheless!

Here is an article written by a friend of
mine.  http://www.deram.cx/infrared/pike.html

I have only heard the very rare "Manhattan Latin".  It's a wonderful
record, stem to stern.  What I have heard of his newest album, "Peligroso"
on Ubiquity is also great and a whole lot easier to find!

Doesn't everyone love "Come and Get Your Love" by Leon Rebo...OUCH!,
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From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Electro Lounge Vol. 2
Date: 24 Sep 2001 19:44:10 -0400


I'm surprised no one has commented on this one yet - although it doesn't
seem that EMI is really pushing it - the major chain store that usually
carries all of this stuff, and had Electrto-Lounge vol. 1 at a promo price
for the longest time didn't even stock this one...

It is good (although I've only listened to about half of it so far), and
much along the lines of the first one.  So far, the Banco De Gaia remix of
Smoke Gets In Your Eyes is my favourite track, but that could change.  And
there's a version of Denny's Quiet Village (Justin Robertson Revtone Remix)
that's completely unrecognisable...

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro Lounge Vol. 2
Date: 24 Sep 2001 20:06:50 -0700


cheryl wrote:
> It is good (although I've only listened to about half of it so far), and
> much along the lines of the first one.  So far, the Banco De Gaia remix of
> Smoke Gets In Your Eyes is my favourite track, but that could change.  And
> there's a version of Denny's Quiet Village (Justin Robertson Revtone Remix)
> that's completely unrecognisable...

I must admit that I was pretty underwhelmed by vol. 1 -- I think the
"martin denny" song had like .25 seconds of a sample and the rest was
just dance music (not bad -- but not exactly exotica either).

This volume based on the samples at Amazon.com seems quite a bit better.
It helps, too, that there are three Les Baxter songs.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005MG9T/thesearcfortheul/

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike Set
Date: 25 Sep 2001 10:23:41 +0100


Mathar (known in these parts as 'The Mighty..') is on the LP 'Noisy Silence
Gentle Noise',  be warned the rest of the LP is very mellow Vibes led Jazz,
there is nothing even remotely similar on it. If you can get the 7 of Mathar
then I'd say get that and look for the other stuff mentioned. (or on 12 with
the Fat Boy Slim remix if you like that sort of thing,  mind you thats a
couple of years old now).

Its funny the single should surface in the US now as its been long gone in
the UK.  At least round here.

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From: leslie gilotti <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lounge in London on Thursday
Date: 25 Sep 2001 11:10:18 +0100


Dan and I are doing our very first evening of cocktails and
conversation in Farringdon.  The tunes will be conducive to lounging,
of course, and there will be cheesy nibbles for those who get there
early enough.

Entry and nibbles are free, and the barman makes a mean Saketini.

When:     Thursday, 27 September from 8pm onwards
Where:     Hat-On-Wall, 24-28 Hatton Wall (off Hatton Garden).
    5 mins (really) from Farringdon Tube.
    (You need to be buzzed in, ooh-la-la)

Email me offlist and I'll email you a flyer, and if you can be
bothered to bring 3 or 4 records along, then please do!

Leslie
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Subject: (exotica) now sound (aside)
Date: 25 Sep 2001 13:01:02 +0100


Just been reading Alan's piece on the parallel 60's on his website, and it
occurred to me that the only place I've actually seen or heard the phrase
'Now Sound' is on the LP Pebbles (volume 1?), where there is an advert for
the Vox Wah-Wah peddle performed by the Electric Prunes (in full Garage
rather than Axelrod mode).

"Its the now sound - its whats happening!"

The only way I can see to squeeze that into Alan's version of 'Now Sound' is
that

"You can even make your guitar sound like a sitar!"

Alan's site is really beyond comment.  Several lengthy essays and
information on his film vinyl, I'd say go.  I can see that keeping up essays
at the length he's published so far would diminish his energy levels for
ranting here.

Which would be a shame.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro Lounge Vol. 2
Date: 25 Sep 2001 09:11:55 -0400


There are four Les Baxter songs on it, actually.  And although I like vol.
1, I wasn't crazy about it the first time I heard it - it took a few
listenings.  The Rip-Off Artist's version of "Sway" is still one of the
better things I've heard.  Vol. 2 is good, but again, it will take a few
listenings for it to begin to grow on me...  But considering the dearth of
anything lounge-related being released on CD these days, I'm not
complaining.

cheryl

> I must admit that I was pretty underwhelmed by vol. 1 -- I think the
> "martin denny" song had like .25 seconds of a sample and the rest was
> just dance music (not bad -- but not exactly exotica either).
>
> This volume based on the samples at Amazon.com seems quite a bit better.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike Set
Date: 25 Sep 2001 09:16:46 -0400


Mathar can also be found on the compilation "Untouchable Outcaste Beats vol.
1" on Outcaste, from the UK.  It's a collection of similar types of music,
some new and some old (it also includes Ananda Shankar, Up Bustle & Out,
Wolfgang Dauner, and Badmarsh & Shri among others).

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Subject: (exotica) making sarcasm work
Date: 25 Sep 2001 14:14:52 +0100


A few days ago some people were complaining of the difficulty in making
sarcasm work in written form.
Heres a masterclass from the Filthy Film Critic

http://www.bigempire.com/filthy/

Here he reviews 'Glitter'  the Mariah Carey film.

Priceless.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro Lounge Vol. 2
Date: 25 Sep 2001 09:23:57 EDT


In a message dated 9/24/01 6:45:20 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< So far, the Banco De Gaia remix of
Smoke Gets In Your Eyes is my favourite track, but that could change.  And
there's a version of Denny's Quiet Village (Justin Robertson Revtone Remix)
that's completely unrecognisable... >>

These two tracks are my favorites, although the "Mod Squad" theme and the
Julie London medley are awesome, too. I just got it a few days ago -- you
beat me to posting about it. Personally, I think it's better than Vol. 1.

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Subject: (exotica) [obits] musician obit roundup
Date: 25 Sep 2001 10:36:25 -0400


http://www.classicjazzguitar.com/artists/artists_page.jsp?artist=10
Cal Collins (1933-2001) began playing the guitar by emulating some of the pianists he heard on the radio as a young man. Nat King Cole and Art Tatum were early influences on his style. He also listened to the guitar stylings of Irving Ashby and John Collins.
=====================
http://www.denverpost.com/cda/article/detail/0,1040,53~134109~36~~,00.html
Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - Old-time rock 'n' roll lost one of its most faithful practitioners when Sam "Flash" McFadin, the voice and guitar of Colorado band Flash Cadillac, died Friday of a heart attack at his home in Colorado Springs. He was 49.
=======================
http://www.nandotimes.com/entertainment/v-text/story/69627p-987980c.html?printer
HAVANA (August 29, 2001 01:54 p.m. EDT - Frank Emilio Flynn, a blind pianist and Latin jazz pioneer who performed with many great American jazz artists, has died. He was 80.
=======================
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/deaths/music/1040079
NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. -- Jazz saxophonist Jay Migliori, who worked with musicians and singers ranging from Frank Zappa to Frank Sinatra, died Sept. 2 of colon cancer. He was 70.
=========================
http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/01/08/08638507.shtml?Element_ID=8638507
Eddie Stoneman, the oldest brother in one of the leading families of country music history, died yesterday. He was 81.
==========================
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Stelios+Kazantzidis+died&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=9nvtnl$kcs$[e-mail]
Athens, 15/09/2001 (ANA)

Stelios Kazantzidis, one of Greece's most loved 'laika' singers, died
Friday in hospital at the age of 70 after a months-long bout with cancer.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/23/obituaries/23STER.html?pagewanted=all
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike recommendations
Date: 25 Sep 2001 07:36:50 -0700 (PDT)


Thanks Brian for this link.  I am still greatly impressed by the
Dave Pike Set "best of" called Materpieces.  Mathar is a good
indication of the wild sitar/fuzzed wa wa guitar sound of most of
the cuts.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

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Subject: (exotica) Pike and the like
Date: 25 Sep 2001 15:54:09 +0100


Fans of Dave Pike's Mathar that don't already have a copy should pick =
up
Mojo Dancefloor Jazz vol3 where you can also find Volker Kriegel's =
sitar
driven Zoom.=20

In fact I now have 1, 2 and 3 in the Mojo Dancefloor Jazz series and I
recommend them very highly. Compilation LPs are getting a bit pervasive =
now
and even the later Mojo comps aren't that good but 2 and 3 are =
excellent! 1
is also good. I am surprised at the price in HMV though - up to =
=A326.99 for
vinyl! Look elsewhere.

And I saw that Casino Royale has been reissued by a new reissue outfit
called Classic Vinyl or something equally bland. CR though is more =
expensive
than an Ebay-sought original at =A330.00. What's that all about then??

Charlie

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Subject: (exotica) mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the Pokemon music?
Date: 25 Sep 2001 17:33:33 +0100


What was that mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the Pokemon music?

Thanks all.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the
Date: 25 Sep 2001 15:04:18 -0400



>What was that mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the Pokemon music?

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/content.php?id=18702




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Subject: Re: (exotica) now sound (aside)
Date: 25 Sep 2001 17:26:07 -0400



>Alan's site is really beyond comment.  Several lengthy essays and
>information on his film vinyl, I'd say go.  I can see that keeping up essays
>at the length he's published so far would diminish his energy levels for
>ranting here.
>Which would be a shame.
>But I wouldn't want him to feel under pressure (Alan, think of your public!)

Well, we can always try to get that Nat Kone guy back.

But yeah, nice site, Alan. Clean & functional design too.
http://www.vinylconfessions.com/

For some reason, saying "Alan" always makes me feel like I'm in a
Thunderbirds episode. No, wait, I'm probably just having one of *my* episodes.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to thePokemon
Date: 25 Sep 2001 16:27:35 -0500


> What was that mad Flash animation by the Japanese kid to the Pokemon music?

He's got a whole catalog of stuff:

http://animutation.mixnmojo.com/pages/index.shtml

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Subject: (exotica) saturday yard sailing
Date: 25 Sep 2001 21:59:41 -0400


A humble but pleasant selection found on Saturday morning.

"Drag Race Sound Effects: A Study In High Fidelity Sound" (Audio Fidelity)
Stereophonic (the label says, "Doctored For Super-Stereo Series", with the
hypodermic syringe logo). Drag racing field recordings, captured at the
1964 Winternationals in Pomona, CA. With titles like "AA/FD Dragster Blows
Blower Belt On Ready Line" you know you can't go wrong. Good, chunky sound.

The Beach Boys - "Surfin' U.S.A." (Capitol) Obscure surf-exotica combo
(more of that hard-to-distinguish list humor). Mono version, in pretty good
shape except for a sneaky little warp which turns the first track on each
side into an Evel Knievel at Caesar's Palace jump ramp. But "The Lonely
Sea" plays fine, so I'm content.

The Banana Splits - 7 inch ep (Hanna Barbera) "Doin' The Banana Split", "I
Enjoy Being A Boy (In Love With You)", "The Beautiful Calliopa", "Let Me
Remember You Smiling". Cross-promo shenanigans from the Saturday morning
show with anonymous guys in plush animal costumes. This is one of their two
Kellogg's cereal coupon mail-in exclusives. No picture sleeve, and side two
is awfully crunchy sounding (snap, crackle & pop?), but for 15 cents, I
can't kick. I like the side one songs better anyway.

And incidently, I've gotten my copy of the book, "Bubblegum Music Is The
Naked Truth" and it really is excellent. If you're at all interested in the
genre, grab a copy. And to everyone on this list who was involved in the
book, thanks and congratulations.

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From: "Daniel Shiman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing
Date: 26 Sep 2001 04:33:19


>
>The Banana Splits - 7 inch ep (Hanna Barbera) "Doin' The Banana Split", "I
>Enjoy Being A Boy (In Love With You)", "The Beautiful Calliopa", "Let Me
>Remember You Smiling". Cross-promo shenanigans from the Saturday morning
>show with anonymous guys in plush animal costumes. This is one of their two
>Kellogg's cereal coupon mail-in exclusives. No picture sleeve, and side two
>is awfully crunchy sounding (snap, crackle & pop?), but for 15 cents, I
>can't kick. I like the side one songs better anyway.

Dang, that EP really is some odd, great listening, and has helped me
tremendously in achieving my late-night visions of massive, shifting clouds
of psychedelic Fruit Loops.  By the way, that other B.S. EP on Hanna-Barbera
also contains a ringing piece of bubble-gum pop: "The Very First Kid on My
Block", but it doesn't touch "I Enjoy Being a Boy".  Which methinks might
rate very highly amongst all you fans of big-production psychedelic pop.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Questions about Redbone
Date: 25 Sep 2001 23:10:06 -0400


Colleen wrote:
> Naw, Doug, I just need to wise up...it was really funny, it's funnier
> still that I fell for it!  I mean...I was really comparing them in my
> mind...think about it, have you ever seen them together...Well have
> you??!!
Don't feel bad Colleen, we all fall for these things at least once!  I have
a great time myself travelling home to Western Canada and convincing
relatives we almost didn't get out as we needed to apply for exit visas from
Quebec... and few questioned it.  Then there's my friend who was puzzled
about this country called 'Pays-bas' which she translated as 'Stockingland'.
Of course it also translates as 'low lands' and happens to be the French
name for the Netherlands! Then there's that con I fell for last time I was
in Toronto, having been proud to have up to that point in time, been immune
to the con job. I'm still getting over the embarassment... er.. anyone want
buy a nice (fake) leather coat?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) now sound (aside)
Date: 26 Sep 2001 01:02:38 -0400


At 01:01 PM 9/25/01 +0100, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Just been reading Alan's piece on the parallel 60's on his website,

I'm ashamed to admit that what you're reading is just part one of four
parts which should be there by the end of the week.

 and it
>occurred to me that the only place I've actually seen or heard the phrase
>'Now Sound' is on the LP Pebbles (volume 1?), where there is an advert for
>the Vox Wah-Wah peddle performed by the Electric Prunes (in full Garage
>rather than Axelrod mode).
>
>"Its the now sound - its whats happening!"

That's the spirit of the now sound, if not the letter of it.

>
>Alan's site is really beyond comment.

That's a good way to put it.

>  I can see that keeping up essays
>at the length he's published so far would diminish his energy levels for
>ranting here.

By the end of the week, I'll be temporarily finished ranting there.  Just
gotta finish off the parallel sixties and finish my rant about the WTC
bombing (on the diary site).  It's not that I don't have the energy to rant
here.  It's that it just doesn't seem like the place to do it anymore (if
it ever really was.)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing
Date: 25 Sep 2001 23:59:05 -0700



>"Drag Race Sound Effects: A Study In High Fidelity Sound" (Audio Fidelity)
>Stereophonic (the label says, "Doctored For Super-Stereo Series", with the
>hypodermic syringe logo).

MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go around.....and
around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about 10 of these. The
Jazz label, Riverside put out a few, as well as some knock off labels
like---Battle.

File under "Sound Effects"

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dave Pike Set
Date: 26 Sep 2001 08:54:24


I think the Seven Up label is English. Nice packaging, hard prices. I bought
a Marcos Valle single on it a couple of months ago.
I have the worst 12" of Mathar ever. It has a modish speed garage mix (which
was the style in those days). And i think a new breaks mix also. Truly
abysmal. + you thought the Paul Weller / Brendan Lynch version that did the
rounds about 7 years ago was the pits.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing
Date: 26 Sep 2001 09:12:10 -0400



>MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go
>around.....and around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about
>10 of these. The Jazz label, Riverside put out a few, as well as some
>knock off labels like---Battle.

In defense of Battle (!) Mongo Santamaria at the Village Gate is a great
album (with regards to the Dance Floor Jazz thread)!  For more info on
Battle, go to http://www.bsnpubs.com/battle.html

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Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing
Date: 26 Sep 2001 08:22:54 -0700



>>MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go
>>around.....and around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about
>>10 of these. The Jazz label, Riverside put out a few, as well as some
>>knock off labels like---Battle.
>
>In defense of Battle (!) Mongo Santamaria at the Village Gate is a great
>album (with regards to the Dance Floor Jazz thread)!  For more info on
>Battle, go to http://www.bsnpubs.com/battle.html


WOW!!and all this time I thought Battle was a bit of a knock off label like
Tops or Custom, or Deluxe or whatever grocery store record labels there are
out there.

Looking through my collection I have  Mongo's "Watermelon Man" on Battle,
nice.

thanks for the info Brian

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From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Car racing records (was: saturday yard sailing)
Date: 26 Sep 2001 17:30:13 +0200


>>MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go
>>around.....and around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about
>>10 of these.

I wrote a column on car racing records a while ago.
You can read it at:
http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/car.html

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Subject: (exotica) Dudley Moore OST
Date: 26 Sep 2001 17:22:10 +0100


I've just seen '30 Is A Dangerous Age, Cynthia', a Dudley Moore OST.

Anybody know this one?  A web search turned up almost nothing about it.


Charlie

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Car racing records
Date: 26 Sep 2001 12:17:59 -0400 (EDT)



Wish I had known this earlier. A few years ago I gave away about five or
six 45's that were nothing but the sounds of different cars racing around
a track and reving their engines.

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> >>MAN!! I love car racing records. especially the ones that go
> >>around.....and around........and around........Kinda sick but I have about
> >>10 of these.
>
> I wrote a column on car racing records a while ago.
> You can read it at:
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dudley Moore OST
Date: 26 Sep 2001 09:43:24 -0700 (PDT)


http://www.blaxploitation.com/s_167.html
http://stabbers.muon.posiweb.net/stabbers/html/discography.htm
http://www.modsandrockers.com/2000/schedule2.html
--- Charles Moseley <[e-mail]>
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> I've just seen '30 Is A Dangerous Age, Cynthia', a
> Dudley Moore OST.
>
> Anybody know this one?  A web search turned up
> almost nothing about it.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dudley Moore OST
Date: 26 Sep 2001 16:48:58 +0000






>I've just seen '30 Is A Dangerous Age, Cynthia', a Dudley Moore OST.
>
>Anybody know this one?  A web search turned up almost nothing about it.

I found it in the basement of a record store a few years ago. It certainly
ain't as good as Bedazzled, and it has some awful, long overly symphonic
pieces. But, if I remember correctly, it had a few good tracks - one of them
called "Hello Sailor" - classic, uptempo 60's now-sound soundtrack stuff, no
fuzz, no sitars, just some pleasant string's n rhythms. It's a keeper, but
it ain't in the great league, at least not IMHO.
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From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Car racing records
Date: 26 Sep 2001 14:20:42 -0400


"Sounds Of Sebring" is said to be one of the classics. I think that was on
Riverside.

Then there's Peter Ustinov's parody album, titled (I think), "The Grand
Prix Of Gibraltar". On which he did all of the voices, including the car
sounds. "Nyarrrrrrrrr, voom, voom, screeeeee..." Never seen or heard it
myself, unfortunately.


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Wendy Carlos  "Sonic Seasonings"
Date: 26 Sep 2001 11:30:14 -0700 (PDT)


I think it was Moritz who first brought Carlos up on the list.
And she should be mentioned again. I thrifted Sonic Seasonings a
while back and finally played it.  Another masterpiece from W.
Carlos!  The music combines synthesizers and natural sounds.  Wind
blowing, thunderstorms and really beautiful synths. This is a 2 lp
set with 4 titles Spring, Summer, Fall & Winter.  Wendy then Walter
really brings some depth to the music. The moog has a more natural
softer edge sound here than Switched on Bach.   I am most impressed
this lp is from 1972, before Brian Eno did ambient music.  Only the
Mystic Moods "One Stormy Night" (1967) and Music for a Rainy
Night-Lonely Harpsichord appear to predate this lp's concept of
combining natural sounds ie thunderstorms,  with music.  This is
an electronic music concept but with none of the simplicity of the
later new age music.   I see its now available on cd with bonus
cuts.  The copy I thrifted is popless, perfectly quiet.

By the way I think the Mystic Moods are now considered the
"father of New Age music".

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bar In Quebec
Date: 26 Sep 2001 11:50:25 -0700 (PDT)


The Tiki Bar I went to was called the Coconut Motekl and Bar.
Check out some pictures at http://www.tydirium.net

Thanks for the info J.Adams

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bar... and a motel ! The decor hasn't changed since
1973: palm trees, bamboo chairs,  blow fish lamp
shades, blue lights under the bar, tiki totem stools
(solid wood at that), hawaiian black velvet paintings.
The music is great and they serve the best Mai Tai and
Aku Aku this side of the pacific rim. To boot, Hawaii
5 0 happened to  be on the tv when we go in to our
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From: Mimi Mayer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Digital locks snapping into place
Date: 27 Sep 2001 14:11:02 -0500


from NewsScan Daily, 9/26/01.

VIVENDI PUTS A LOCK ON ITS MUSIC CDs
Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group, the world's biggest music
company, says it is preparing to roll out "a number of releases" on CDs
that contain technology preventing consumers from making digital copies.
The move is the most aggressive to date among U.S. record labels to block
copying onto computers and other devices. A company spokesman declined to
say exactly what technology would be used, but said it "will not impede the
consumer experience." Meanwhile, Sony Music Entertainment reported it has
used copy protection on some promotional releases of its new Michael
Jackson single that were sent to radio stations last month, but doesn't
plan to use on commercial releases of the singer's new album. However, the
company affirmed that its "goal is to implement copy protection on a
broader basis to deter digital piracy." BMG Entertainment said it's
conducting trials of copy-protection on promotional CDs in the U.S. and
Warner Music is "looking closely at the technology" and doing market
research on the concept. No comment was available from EMI. (Wall Street
Journal 26 Sep 2001)
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From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) now sound (aside)
Date: 26 Sep 2001 14:43:31 -0500



AZ>It's not that I don't have the energy to rant
here.  It's that it just doesn't seem like the place to do it anymore
(if
it ever really was.)


AZ, it's your ranting that kept this site going during the lean times.


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Subject: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins
Date: 26 Sep 2001 15:58:31 -0700


    I just can't get enough of that Kenyon Hopkins!

    I first found a still sealed stereo copy of "The Reporter" at a record
meet in New Jersey and fell in love with his music.  Next I sent away for
"East Side West Side" and I constantly played the two LPs over and over.  I
was hooked.  I already had the Shock/Panic/Nightmare bootleg cd, but after
the two LPs I recently sent for and now own Lonelyville, The Sound of New
York, Ping Pang Pong, Yellow Canary and Mr. Buddwing.  Of them all, I love
The Reporter, East Side West Side and Yellow Canary the most.  I even find
myself rewatching old Brady Bunch episodes just to listen to the music.

     Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive
Kind are any good?  Inquiring minds want to know.

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From: [e-mail] (Bump Stadelman)
Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits.
Date: 26 Sep 2001 16:14:04 -0400


my copy of this sounds like it is in worse condition than yours!
i did buy the bootleg cd of all their hits from Trash Palace.
i loved them then and i love them now.
i have always wondered just who the heck they are?
i heard a rumor is was the Blue Oyster Cult!!!! ;)
but they sound more like Flaming Ember!
 if anyone can tell me who the real Banana Splits are...please stand up.

bump

my fav is Doin' the Banana!

>>
>>The Banana Splits - 7 inch ep (Hanna Barbera) "Doin' The Banana Split", "I
>>Enjoy Being A Boy (In Love With You)", "The Beautiful Calliopa", "Let Me
>>Remember You Smiling". Cross-promo shenanigans from the Saturday morning
>>show with anonymous guys in plush animal costumes. This is one of their two
>>Kellogg's cereal coupon mail-in exclusives. No picture sleeve, and side two
>>is awfully crunchy sounding (snap, crackle & pop?), but for 15 cents, I
>>can't kick. I like the side one songs better anyway.
>
>Dang, that EP really is some odd, great listening, and has helped me
>tremendously in achieving my late-night visions of massive, shifting clouds
>of psychedelic Fruit Loops.  By the way, that other B.S. EP on Hanna-Barbera
>also contains a ringing piece of bubble-gum pop: "The Very First Kid on My
>Block", but it doesn't touch "I Enjoy Being a Boy".  Which methinks might
>rate very highly amongst all you fans of big-production psychedelic pop.
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From: [e-mail] (Bump Stadelman)
Subject: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits.
Date: 26 Sep 2001 17:10:32 -0400



yup, looks like it was Barry!
cool. and thanx
i see other Splits songs were written by Gene Pitney and Al Kooper!
still i looked thru alot of stuff but no one is saying who actually
performed the songs.

the mystery continues
bump

>there's been a rumor running around that Barry White wrote "Doing the
>banana" and that he confirmed it in an interview ... but I've never been
>able to track down the authenticithy of this report.
>
>you might want to check out this website too :
>http://www.thebananasplits.com/
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins
Date: 26 Sep 2001 17:33:50 -0400


At 03:58 PM 9/26/01 -0700, Doug Dale wrote:
>
>    I just can't get enough of that Kenyon Hopkins!
>
>     Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive
>Kind are any good?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Baby Doll is definitely worth it.  And I can't believe The Hustler wouldn't
be great.

But you didn't mention his Esquire records. Like Sound Tour: France and
Sound Tour: Italy, the two I have. (Unless that's what you mean by "Sound
of New York)
I assume there's more.  I quite like them.  (I also love the packaging).
The music sort of reminds me of Ping Pang Pong.  It's like lounge heavily
influenced by crime jazz.  And of course the original tunes are much more
crime jazzy than the covers.

But I agree, Kenyon Hopkins is a hero. And I was completely unaware of him
before I joined this list years ago.

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Subject: (exotica) shameless self promotion
Date: 26 Sep 2001 18:12:54 -0400


"Vinyl" is showing in Minneapolis next week at the Sound Unseen film festival.
Here's a review that just came out:

http://www.citypages.com/databank/22/1086/article9835.asp?page=2

None of this refers to any of you!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Digital locks snapping into place
Date: 26 Sep 2001 19:49:02 EDT



In a message dated 9/26/01 4:56:25 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group, the world's biggest music
company, says it is preparing to roll out "a number of releases" on CDs
that contain technology preventing consumers from making digital copies.  >>

WB Mimi...Long time, no hear....My policy these days is to buy vinyl..period.
I can make CD's out of them if I want..good long ones too, better than the
typical 49 minute jobs you get from half the CD releases out there. CD's will
lose their cache completely if they get that restrictive IMHO.  Help the
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Subject: Re: (exotica) shameless self promotion
Date: 26 Sep 2001 21:29:53 -0500


alan zweig wrote:

> "Vinyl" is showing in Minneapolis next week at the Sound Unseen film
festival.
> Here's a review that just came out:
>
> http://www.citypages.com/databank/22/1086/article9835.asp?page=2
>
> None of this refers to any of you!

Well, this pudgy male geek is gonna try to make it to the screening...


And, speaking of record collecting, City Pages ran an article about local
radio host/collector Barbara "Blanche" Sibley a couple of months ago:

http://www.citypages.com/databank/22/1077/article9714.asp

Subsequently, City Pages has published many letters to the editor demanding
the head of the reporter who wrote the above article...

http://www.citypages.com/letters/  [about 1/3 of the way down the page]

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Subject: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins
Date: 26 Sep 2001 23:29:02 -0700


>Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive
>Kind are any good?  Inquiring minds want to know.

The Fugitive Kind is pretty iffy. There's a really good twist on it but otherwise I find it very dull and I never listen to it. Lonelyville is by far my favorite. Finding that album just completely changed my perceptions about the nature of soundtrack music, and where you could get music that sounded like it was from a soundtrack but wasn't. For me that was a strange step, because I found Shock and didn't know what it was exactly, mixed in with some Halloween records. Next I found Lonelyville after doing some research, and wow!

Baby Doll I think is so-so, but I was a fan of the movie long before I even knew who Kenyon was, and didn't connect the two. I would love to have a copy of The Hustler but until it is reissued, I continue to pray to get lucky in a thrift. I can't afford to spend an average going rate of $50 + on ANY record, no matter what it is or who it's by.

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From: "william" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) vous et nous
Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:00:37 +0800


hi all,

    i just picked up this disc "vous et nous" by brigitte fontaine & areski
belkacem. of course i don't speak french so i don't know what they are
singing about(and i'm not sure how much it matters). but what is the story
behind this recording? who is areski belkacem? i've never heard of him
before. is this recording typical for brigitte fontaine? for some reason i
think its not. am i right?

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins
Date: 27 Sep 2001 05:48:48 -0700 (PDT)


I have the same feeling about Lilith: so-so
recording... enjoyed the movie in a film class many
years back.

Keep an eye out for Contrasting Colors.

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> Baby Doll I think is so-so, but I was a fan of the
> movie long before I even knew who Kenyon was, and
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins
Date: 27 Sep 2001 09:38:24 -0400



Finally learning to post messages to the list rather than individuals.

The Strange One is an excellent soundtrack, much much better I think than
Baby Doll and Mr. Buddwing.  Didn't know the Creed Taylor items were Kenyon
Hopkins--Lonelyville is excellent.

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From: "basic hip" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fw: kenyon hopkins
Date: 27 Sep 2001 07:09:07 -0700


sorry if this is a repeat...my email is screwed up...

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:07 PM


> doug asked about kenyon hopkins:
>
> >Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive Kind
> are any good?  Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> I'll chime in with AZ's thumbs up too.  You've hit the bull's eye.  I've
got
> 14 KH albums as well as that Shock bootleg, I'm a big fan, Doug.  A fellow
> listee also cooked up a CD-R for me of his jazz ballet, "Rooms", which you
> should also keep an eye out for.
>
> Have you ever seen Baby Doll?  Even by today's soft-porn movie standards,
it
> sizzles, without so much as a sex scene.  It's set in the south.  I can't
> put music into words very well - it's not quite up to the sound of Mister
> Buddwing, The Reporter, East Side / Westside,  or The Yellow Canary, but I
> don't think you'd be disappointed.  It's a completely different kind of
> story with a different mood.
>
> I've heard Lilith is a dud.
>
> I have a stereo Fugitive Kind (Brando / Woodward), found on ebay.  I'd
> recommend this one highly too.
>
> The Hustler is the crown jewel and took me the longest to track down and
> cost me the most.  As it usually turns out with highly sought after LP's,
> the hunt is more fun than the capture.  It's certainly recommended, but no
> better than Mister Buddwing or The Reporter.
>
> Not on your list are "This Property is Condemned" with a great shot of
> Natalie Wood on the cover.  I found it to be mediocore - and traded it
away.
> Sort of a 1920s dixieland sound.
>
> But do keep an eye out for "The Strange One" on Coral.  That has just the
> sound you are after.  It's an earlier title, late 1950s.  Smoky, gritty,
> rotton to the core jazz.
>
> Then there is a railroad themed non-soundtrack, "Ridin' The Rails" which
is
> pretty good and another which I have not seen, "Contrasting Colors".
What's
> this?!  I just saw one I had never heard of on GEMM, "Lightin' Strikes"
> (Verve).
>
> One more soundtrack - "Eleven Against The Ice", which I hear is
> disappointing.
>
> I've seen The Reporter die on ebay without a bid and it breaks my heart.
I
> want to just scream, SOMEBODY BID ON THIS!!!  A great jazz TV soundtrack.
>
>
>
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From: Rob Crowther <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) House of Bamboo
Date: 27 Sep 2001 08:29:12 -0700


Does anyone know which is the original recording of 'House of Bamboo?'  Was
it originally from a movie?  And, who is that most recently rerecorded it?

Thanks,

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From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) House of Bamboo etc
Date: 27 Sep 2001 09:37:25 -0700


All ths talk of Kenyon Hopkins, Dudley Moore soundtracks, Race Car records
and now the song- House of Bamboo!! This is the kind of talk I love to see
on this list, the kind that I think this list was intended to have!! The
exotica list I remember first joining back in 98 or so (damn its been a long
time).

Keep it up and keep it weird!

-jonny

btw my version of House of Bamboo by Earl Grant is my favorite. "number 54,
the one with the bamboo door!!"

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Subject: Re: (exotica) House of Bamboo etc
Date: 27 Sep 2001 12:59:58 -0500



> btw my version of House of Bamboo by Earl Grant is my favorite. "number 54,
> the one with the bamboo door!!"

I have to confess that I haven't heard any other versions?  Any suggestions
on what to look out for?  Maybe I actually have heard others and just didn't
register it.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) House of Bamboo etc
Date: 27 Sep 2001 13:16:55 -0400


At 12:59 PM 9/27/01 -0500, Clayton wrote:

>
>I have to confess that I haven't heard any other versions?  Any suggestions
>on what to look out for?  Maybe I actually have heard others and just didn't
>register it.


See:
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=HHOUSE|OF|BAMBOO

I enjoy SCOTs version.
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Subject: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:09:09 -0400


Who is Bernie Green?
Why do I know that name?
I had ten minutes to kill before a meeting and I went into the thrift store.
I never find a LOT of records I want anymore but the few times I've gone in
the last year, I usually found one anyway.
This time the one was "Bernie Green plays more than you can stand in hi-fi"
It's one of those records where they cover every kind of music imaginable.
From lounge to crime jazz.
It's on the San Francisco Records label, which I don't believe I've ever seen.
That must be an interesting label.  If nothing else, they have the teeniest
typing on the back, I've ever (not) seen.
Anyway it occurs to me that I once really wanted a record by Bernie Green
that I'd heard about.  But another voice says "No that was Bennie, not
Bernie".
Solve it for me.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:23:03 -0500



>
> Who is Bernie Green?
> Why do I know that name?

I believe he's one of the artists featured on the Stereo Action series.  I
can't remember what it's called because I don't have it--and it's one that I
want.  (And it's easy to confuse his name with Urbie Green).

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Subject: Re: (exotica) House of Bamboo etc
Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:22:16 -0400



>I have to confess that I haven't heard any other versions?  Any suggestions
>on what to look out for?  Maybe I actually have heard others and just didn't
>register it.

Believe it or not, Andy Williams has a great version of this song!  It's on
Kent's "Mo' Mod Jazz" comp, however, there is no mention of anyone named
Moritz on the comp :^)

It is indeed from a movie called "House of Bamboo" directed by Samuel
Fuller.  I don't know if it was sang there, remembering the instrumental
version of "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" and the hit vocal version by
Gene Pitney.  From what info I gleaned from http://us.imdb.com it looks
like a good movie.

People in Bamboo houses, shouldn't.
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From: Larry Usselman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:36:03 -0400


Alan,

Bernie Green and His Orchestra did one of those RCA Victor Stereo Action,
"ping-pong-sound" LPs. The one I have here is "Futura" on RCA LSA-2376 from
1961. Some decent arrangements, lots of horns, etc.

Larry Usselman

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>Why do I know that name?
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 27 Sep 2001 19:48:38


>"ping-pong-sound" LPs. The one I have here is "Futura" on RCA LSA-2376 from
>1961. Some decent arrangements, lots of horns, etc.
>

...which includes most notably the title track - one of my personal flaves -
a completely over-the-top call-and-response vibes thing.  I've used it for
DJ'ing in clubs before, and, in the right place, it has a very curious
tennis-court-like stereo effect.
-Dan

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Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits.
Date: 27 Sep 2001 16:08:24 -0400



>i have always wondered just who the heck they are?
>i heard a rumor is was the Blue Oyster Cult!!!! ;)
>but they sound more like Flaming Ember!
>  if anyone can tell me who the real Banana Splits are...please stand up.

"Bubblegum Music Is The Naked Truth" has a chapter on the Banana Splits,
but I don't think they know actual names other than the songwriter or
producer credits. To my ears, it sounds like a different batch of session
players on every song. Probably no one bothered to keep track... maybe
Hanna-Barbera required some sort of non-disclosure clause to keep everyone
faceless and dispensible. Maybe musician union logs would reveal the truth
(unless they were off-the-book sessions). It does seem strange how the
Splits remain such a mystery when we know so much about the Archies.

They had crazy 'song videos' on the TV show. It seemed like H-B was getting
maximum mileage from their modeling sheets. There's one song where most of
the visuals are a head shot of Atom Ant processed various ways. I saw it
several years back on cable and was amazed. It was like a brainwashing
experiment... couldn't help thinking, "My god! What did they do to me when
I was a kid?"

I still say Stanley Clarke's "School Days" is a cop from the Banana Splits
theme.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 27 Sep 2001 16:09:25 -0400



>> Who is Bernie Green?
>> Why do I know that name?

Besides the aforementioned "...More Than You Can Stand" and "Futura", he
also did the "Musically Mad" album on RCA. He also scored a few films in the
60's, including William Castle's "Zotz" and the Tony Randall/Barbara Eden
helmed "The Brass Bottle", as well as a fair amount of advertising music. I
think he's still alive.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins
Date: 27 Sep 2001 16:08:26 -0400



>Baby Doll I think is so-so,

Actually my favorite number in the movie is the faint echo of "Shame,
Shame, Shame" by Smiley Lewis.  The movie, it is a weird one, with Karl
Malden running about with a southern accent, yelling, "Ooooooh, Baby Doll!"
after his child-like wife.

Too bad they didn't use "Oh, Baby Doll" by Chuck Berry,
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From: "Doug Shannon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits.
Date: 27 Sep 2001 13:44:52 -0700


M.Ace  said:
>I still say Stanley Clarke's "School Days" is a cop from the Banana
Splits=20
theme.<

As is Bob Marley's Buffalo Soldier, I always thought.

Doug





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>i have always wondered just who the heck they are?
>i heard a rumor is was the Blue Oyster Cult!!!! ;)
>but they sound more like Flaming Ember!
>  if anyone can tell me who the real Banana Splits are...please stand
up.

"Bubblegum Music Is The Naked Truth" has a chapter on the Banana Splits,

but I don't think they know actual names other than the songwriter or=20
producer credits. To my ears, it sounds like a different batch of
session=20
players on every song. Probably no one bothered to keep track... maybe=20
Hanna-Barbera required some sort of non-disclosure clause to keep
everyone=20
faceless and dispensible. Maybe musician union logs would reveal the
truth=20
(unless they were off-the-book sessions). It does seem strange how the=20
Splits remain such a mystery when we know so much about the Archies.

They had crazy 'song videos' on the TV show. It seemed like H-B was
getting=20
maximum mileage from their modeling sheets. There's one song where most
of=20
the visuals are a head shot of Atom Ant processed various ways. I saw it

several years back on cable and was amazed. It was like a brainwashing=20
experiment... couldn't help thinking, "My god! What did they do to me
when=20
I was a kid?"

I still say Stanley Clarke's "School Days" is a cop from the Banana
Splits=20
theme.

--m.ace



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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 27 Sep 2001 13:53:47 -0700 (PDT)


Futura. My last and probably final great thrift score.

--- Clayton Black <[e-mail]> wrote:

> > Who is Bernie Green?
> > Why do I know that name?
>
> I believe he's one of the artists featured on the
> Stereo Action series.

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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits.
Date: 27 Sep 2001 16:03:36 -0500




>i have always wondered just who the heck they are?
>i heard a rumor is was the Blue Oyster Cult!!!! ;)
>but they sound more like Flaming Ember!
>  if anyone can tell me who the real Banana Splits are...please
stand up.
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Was Leon Redbone in this group?????????


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 27 Sep 2001 17:30:27 -0700



"Bernie Green plays more than you can stand in hi-fi" at a thrift store?  Oh
my God, go get it!  I have it as "more than you can stand in "Stereo"".
Listened to the hi-fi one once at a listening station and skipping through
it, thought it was just okay.  Got the Stereo one and fell in love with it.
That one and Futura are two of my all time favorites.

At "TV Funhouse", we used the "Mr. Peepers Theme" arangement (Recorder and
Tuba) as a template for our starting.  Cool Sound, cartoony 50's feel.

"Railroad Train Samba" is the same song as "Ping Pong" from Futura (on one
of RCA's Space Age Pop comp's) only this time it's with percussion
instruments resembling a train ride.

"Concert for Calliope" is a hoot.  It's an instrumental about a circus
calliope (played by Dick Hyman) trying to be dignified with a concert
orchestra.  My kids love that one too.

"Double Blues" has pizzicato bass going fast and has Mundell Lowe soloing
along with it energetically on electric guitar.  It really swings.

"Saxaphobia" has an all sax quartet and sounds like a cross between Benny
Hill's theme and one of those Disneyland traveling bands.

Bernie Green was also the music composer for Caesar's Hour (his show after
Your Show of Shows.

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From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 27 Sep 2001 18:33:55 -0400


At 05:30 PM 9/27/01 -0700, Doug Dale wrote:
>
>
>Go back and get it.  Unless you can find the Stereo version which is better.

What made you think I didn't pick it up?  It was a thrift store.  I bought
a Sandler and Young record, you think I'd leave the Bernie Green?

I also bought this surprisingly neat thing with the wrong cover, called
"New Sound from Stylers" which appears to be on some kind of Oriental
label, despite the English titles.  They sound a bit like The Shadows.
Anyone know the Stylers?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 27 Sep 2001 18:31:16 -0700



Alan Zweig wrote:
 What made you think I didn't pick it up?  It was a thrift store.  I bought
a Sandler and Young record, you think I'd leave the Bernie Green?


Sigh.  I love a happy ending.

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Subject: (exotica) the Stylers
Date: 27 Sep 2001 21:12:22 EDT



In a message dated 9/27/01 3:29:14 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I also bought this surprisingly neat thing with the wrong cover, called
"New Sound from Stylers" which appears to be on some kind of Oriental
label, despite the English titles.  They sound a bit like The Shadows.
Anyone know the Stylers?>>

The Stylers are one of my top favorite bands.
They're from Singapore, and they specialized in something called "off-beat"
cha-cha,
which was apparently very popular in that part of Asia in the '60s and '70s.
They have lots of fuzz/wah-wah guitar & tinny organ (or synthesizer, later
on). I've found a bunch of albums of the Stylers backing female, Chinese
vocalists, as well as a few mostly-instrumental. It's all very catchy.
If anyone knows any actual information about them, I'd love to know more!

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From: "basic hip" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) TEST sorry to fill your box with junk
Date: 27 Sep 2001 18:21:46 -0700


fred lowery rules



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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins
Date: 27 Sep 2001 20:31:31 -0500


For the Kenyon Hopkins compleatist, there are also the two albums he
did with singer Susan Barrett, plus a good one with pianist Joe
Bushkin:

Nightsounds (Joe Bushkin)
Mixed Emotions (Susan Barrett)
A Little Travelin' Music (Susan Barrett)

These consist mostly of standards (Hopkins arrangements) and probably
aren't in the same league as most of KH's other work, but they're
still pretty good.

Basic Hip mentioned Ridin' the Rails and Contrasting Colors (both
spiced with Hopkins originals, along with the standards), and there's
also Swingin' Serenades.  All of the above for Capitol.

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From: Jerry Nutter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) David Lynch and Butterfinger candy bars?
Date: 28 Sep 2001 08:42:34 -0400


alan zweig: ...or that story I heard last week involving David Lynch and
Butterfinger candy bars.

audiocarp: I'm sorry, I can't let this one slide! Or was this a red herring
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Subject: (exotica) late additions to Clear Channel ban
Date: 28 Sep 2001 10:13:22 -0400


"Catch Me Now I'm Falling" - The Kinks.
"She's Gone"  - Hall & Oates
Any Grateful Dead.
"Don't Leave Me This Way" - Thelma Houston
"Up Up and Away"  - Fifth Dimension
"Bang Bang" -  Cher
"Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" -The Platters
"Sky High" - Jigs
"Eye in the Sky" - Alan Parsons Project
"Disco Apocalypse" - Jackson Browne
"Smokin' in the Boys' Room" - Brownsville Station
"Steel and Glass" - John Lennon
"Fall on Me" - REM
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Subject: Re: (exotica) David Lynch and Butterfinger candy bars?
Date: 28 Sep 2001 13:06:29 -0400


At 08:42 AM 9/28/01 -0400, Jerry Nutter wrote:
>
>alan zweig: ...or that story I heard last week involving David Lynch and
>Butterfinger candy bars.
>
>audiocarp: I'm sorry, I can't let this one slide! Or was this a red herring
>designed just to get a rise outta me?

I think it would slide nicely but I'm not sure why I would design anything
- let alone this - to get a rise out of you in particular.  Refresh my mind
about you and David Lynch.

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From: "Carl Howard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 28 Sep 2001 14:02:42 -0400


I was going to ring in on this, but it seems that everyone else has already
done so!  I would just like to add that both the Bernie Green Stereo Action
release "Futura" and its predecessor "Musically Mad," are both currently
available on CD from RCA Spain.  I wish RCA Spain had taken a bit more
trouble to recreate the original exquisite packaging of the Stereo Action
series, but I will take this over nothing any day of the week.

Of the two, "Futura" is far more interesting to listen to.

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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 28 Sep 2001 14:14:48 -0400


There's an episode of David Garland's Spinning On Air devoted to Bernie Green:

The whimsical music of composer Bernie Green is featured. We'll hear from four records released in the '50s and '60s which display a range of Green's work, from silly to serious. The silly stuff mostly comes from "Musically Mad," a Mad Magazine tie-in from 1959, and from "Bernie Green Play More Than You Can Stand in Hi-Fi." On the serious side, music from an LP of "Bernard" Green's music for symphony orchestra. From "Futura," recorded in the earlier Sixties, we hear Green's prediction of the music of the futuristic 1970s.
http://www.realimpact.net/rihurl.ram?file=realimpact/wnyc/soa/winter0001/soa033001.ra&

If this link doesn't work, go to http://wnyc.org and search for "bernie green".

Also see the sites that turn up when you go to:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bernie+green%22


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernie Green
Date: 28 Sep 2001 11:55:18 -0700


I like Bernie Green records.

Remember Wally Cox and his Mr. Peepers TV show?  Bernie wrote the music for
the silly tune.  You'll find it on the "more than you can stand in hi-fi"
LP.  Did the Sid Ceasar show too.

I have another interesting one called NFL Marching Songs.  All the logos and
team songs circa 1960 or so are represented.  In Living Stereo on RCA and
"officially sanctioned by the NFL".  There are brief spoken word intros to
each song.  Pretty neat-o.

And does anybody have that zany Tony Randall record on Imperial?  With his
INSANE version of Nature Boy?  You gotta hear it to believe it.  Music on
the album is all by Bernie Green. I'll be playing it as an upcoming guest on
Mr Fodder's Friendly Persuasion Show in early November .  Only one whistling
track planned for the program, but its a doozy - with sitar!







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From: Mimi Mayer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) From The Onion
Date: 30 Sep 2001 00:58:43 -0500


President Urges Calm, Restraint Among Nation's Ballad Singers
WASHINGTON, DC=97 In the wake of the recent national tragedy, President Bush
is urging Mariah Carey, Michael Jackson, and other singers to resist the
urge to record mawkish, insipid all-star tribute ballads. "To America's
recording artists, I just want to say, please, there has already been
enough suffering," Bush said. "The last thing we need right now is a
soaring Barbra Streisand-Brian McKnight duet titled 'One For All.'" Reports
that the FBI had confiscated several notebooks and audio tapes from Diane
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Subject: (exotica) bid on this one!
Date: 29 Sep 2001 10:00:55 -0700


I know I'm a pest preaching my whistling records, but a little known and
overlooked gem has popped up on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1469793638

Not only is it scarce as a two-dollar bill, it's one of the best -
definitely in my top three.  Quando Quando Quando, Bubbles in the Wine,
Yellow Bird - top notch stuff from start to finish.  Right up there with
Fred Lowery's Walking Along Kicking The Leaves.

Want an unique and fun addition to your exotica / space age pop collection?
Forget Ray Coniff and check it out.





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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) saturday yard sailing/Splits.
Date: 29 Sep 2001 18:59:36 -0500


>> I still say Stanley Clarke's "School Days" is a cop from the Banana
>> Splits
>> theme.<

> As is Bob Marley's Buffalo Soldier, I always thought.

And maybe even "Give Him Cornbread" by Beau Jocque & the Zydeco Hi-Rollers?

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From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 30
Date: 29 Sep 2001 20:14:04 -0400


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #161   You Can Teach An Old Song New Tricks


On this week's show, we're playing new versions of old standards.  Some
tunes are recognisable, and some aren't, but they're all good!

Nina Hagen:  Wenn Ich Ein Junge Waer  "Unbehagen"
Charles Wilp:  Close Up (Re-closed by Metrophonics)  "The Bunny Remixes"
Rockers Hi-Fi Meet Ella Fitzgerald:  Sunshine Of Your Love  "Mojo Club Remix
Album"

Dean Martin & Julie London:  Sway (Remix By The Rip-Off Artist)  "Electro
Lounge"
Mallet Men And Their Orchestra:  Smoke Gets In Your Eyes (Banco De Gaia
Remix)  "Electro Lounge 2"
Pulser SG Meet Johnny Hallyday:  Noir C'est Noir  "Mojo Club Remix Album 2"
Julie London:  Come On-A My House /Hot Toddy  (Rip-Off Artist Remix)
"Electro Lounge 2"
Resident Filters:  Big Train  "Kinky Beats"
Yma Sumac:  Gopher (Mambo) (Q-Burns Abstract Message Remix)  "Electro
Lounge"

Jacknife Lee:  Telstar  "El Gran Ritmo De Mike Young"
Skeewiff Featuring Michel Legrand & His Orchestra:  Come Ray And Come
Charles  "FSUK 4"


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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 29 Sep 2001 21:43:30 -0500


Check out this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast for "sleazy
listening music" from Italian B-movies, TV crime jazz from "Burke's
Law" and "Checkmate" and the go-go sound of the '60s by Werner
Drexler and Barbara Moore, among others.

You'll find a stereo-popping version of Roberto Menescal's "The
Telephone Song" by the Mike Sammes Singers; exotica by Martin Denny,
Sondi Sodsai and Axel Stordahl; Dominic Frontiere's "Love Eyes" (in
some ways, an instrumental counterpart to Baxter's "The Passions");
plus tunes by the Three Suns, Vinnie Bell (his electric sitar cover
of "Quiet Village"), Lalo Schifrin and Arling and Cameron; and lots
more!

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour anytime on the web, just visit:

http://kanu.ku.edu/retro.html

Comments, requests and queries are always welcome.  Thanks!

Darrell Brogdon
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
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http://kanu.ku.edu/retro.html
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From: "JamesBGerwitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hopkins, Bamboo, Twin Peaks & Something Weird
Date: 29 Sep 2001 20:22:09 -0700


Concerning Baby Doll and This Property is Condemned, doesn't anyone buy
records for the covers anymore??? Baby Doll is one of  THE all time classic
covers, and Natalie is way too luscious to be condemned. Have any of you
actually listened to that Fran Warren "Hey There" LP or that Jonah Jones LP
with the rear view of those Capri pants gals?
Mister Buddwing play on Turner again Oct 16th, music well integrated into an
ok movie. House of Bamboo played last week but I forgot. to watch or tape.
The Hustler supposedly coming to DVD early next year with commentary by
Newman. Just out on DVD The Dunwich Horror with the prized Baxter score (but
in mono). Watched this on TV a while back and it was lame, but for $10 what
the hell.

FINALLY, Twin Peaks episodes 1-7 coming to DVD 12/4. Special pilot episode
not included but available now in Europe Region 2 or Hong Kong region 0
(from hkfilms.com in the US). Also on DVD 12/4 Fritz Lang's the Big Heat
from 1953. There's a 3-piece combo in the club where Lee Marvin hangs out,
IIRC accordion, bass, and guitar, a real 3 Suns kinda thing. However, they
don't look like any of the few pictures of the 3 Suns I've seen, so they
remain a mystery to me.  From the excellent documentary shown on A&E
recently, I learned that Suns' Al Nevins formed Aldon Records with Don
Kirshner and brought us all those great Brill Bldg/girl group/spectropop
sound records, my very favorite type of music. This period coincided with my
adolescence, and I have been blasting the Ronettes and Cookies on my freeway
commute for months now. Another example of  how music from a certain period
of your life stays with you forever.

Other recent DVDs of exotica interest include Sweet Smell of Success, The
Emerald Forest, the Wicker Man, more Universal horror two-fers and Dario
Argento's Special Edition of Suspiria with the separate Goblin CD. (BTW if
you have never seen Dario's daughter Asia you are missing a treat and a
lovely tattoo.)

Jayne Mansfield and Mickey Hargitay come to DVD 11/30 in a Something Weird
two-fer of Primitive Love and Mondo Balardo with Boris Karloff! Which
reminds me that Something Weird's DVD Blaze Starr Goes Nudist stars Ralph
Young of Sandler and Young as a nudist camp director who sings "Going Back
to Nature" and plays strategically-placed accordion. So for the Sandler &
Young completists out there, something else to buy.

There is too much damn stuff. Have you seen the mp3 newsgroups lately?
Unbelieveable.......

Jim

Where my money goes:
http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=1&id=jamesbrian




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From: "Manuel Kalmanovitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) vous et nous
Date: 30 Sep 2001 00:15:58 -0500


Hi,

Brigitte Fontaine is a very enigmatic french singer, politically active who also writes book and has colaborated with Stereolab and Kim Gordon, among others.

I only have heard one of her records, Le Bonheur, and it was also with Areski. I was expecting it to be something closer to France Gall but it was more experimental, very influenced by what we would call today "world music" (Areski's family is from Algiers). Strange singing, almost percussive.

A friend who knows her records better than I do said that she did have a France Gall like phase in the early 70s. That record Brigitte Fontaine est... is supposed to be quite bubblegummy, but I tried to find it without much success.

I found a page about her here http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~kucklae/bfr_info.htm

There's a good bio here
http://www.rfimusique.com/o2cf_gb/grolier_v5/cf_gb_base?INPUT-%3Eaffiche_passeport(206)

Bye,
Manuel


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From: "F. Cobalt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) hopkins/areski + fontaine
Date: 30 Sep 2001 00:46:14 -0700


Re: Kenyon Hopkins. Duh, earlier when I said I wasn't thrilled about The Fugitive Kind soundtrack I was talking about The Strange One. My mind has been all over the place lately. I haven't even HEARD The Fugitive Kind. Sorry.

Re: Fontaine and Areski. From what I know about Brigitte Fontaine and Areski, he worked with her quite a bit from the beginning of her recording career. He's on a number of her early albums, and even pops up on her new one for a few songs. I could recommend her with or without his contribution, but together they really have a skill at that minimalist/eerie mood. I'm a big fan of the Comme a la Radio album, which she did with Areski and the Art Ensemble of Chicago. It strikes a fair balance between eerie, detached, cold, warm, and intimate. It's nice to see her work getting reissued... though of you see the EP she did with Stereolab, run away quick. She sounds terrible, and so do they.

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From: Taro HOSHIJIMA <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hula-Twist
Date: 30 Sep 2001 17:18:52 +0900


Hi,
Anybody familiar with Trude Herr's "Hula-Twist"?

(Information about her in German is at:
http://online.prevezanos.com/schlager/h/herr.shtml
for example)

I haven't heard the song, but I'm wondering if it's the original of Hong
Kong singer Ge Lan's "Hula-Twist."  Can anybody confirm or deny this?

The beginning of the latter version goes like this:

<yodeling>
Yo-De-lei Yo-De-Lei Yo-De-Lei
</yodeling>
Hu-La Hu-La Twist!

If you can navigate through Chinese characters, a 28.8K real audio file
of this version can be heard at:

http://www.boxup.com/big5/artist/other/many-80.htm?

It's the tenth track on Disk Two.

Any comments will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Taro
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From:    [e-mail] (PMC)
Subject: (exotica) Anyone like Swedish pop?
Date: 30 Sep 2001 08:21:44 +0100


Hi all,

Anyone here like modern Swedish pop (Club 8, Cardigans, Komeda etc.)
or bands like St. Etienne & Ivy?  If so, I've got a _mint_ copy of
the latest Waltz For Debbie CD for sale for $8 air ppd in NA/$10 RoW.

# Waltz For Debbie - "Gone & Out" US CD (Hidden Agenda) 2001
  [Feat. "I'll Be King" and "My Angel" not on the Labrador pressing.]

Please email if interested.

Thanks


-Patrick
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From: Kerry Keane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) vous et nous
Date: 30 Sep 2001 08:19:25 -0500 (CDT)



On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Manuel Kalmanovitz wrote:

>
> > Hi, > > Brigitte Fontaine is a very enigmatic french singer, politically
> active who also writes book and has colaborated with Stereolab and Kim
> Gordon, among others. > > I only have heard one of her records, Le
> Bonheur, and it was also with Areski. I was expecting it to be something
> closer to France Gall but it was more experimental, very influenced by
> what we would call today "world music" (Areski's family is from Algiers).
> Strange singing, almost percussive.  > > A friend who knows her records
> better than I do said that she did have a France Gall like phase in the
> early 70s. That record Brigitte Fontaine est... is supposed to be quite
> bubblegummy, but I tried to find it without much success. > >

I have it - I got it from Dustygroove, and it is more melancholy,
very melodic, but nowhere near as "pop" as France Gall (whom I like
anyway).  But it is a beautiful record.

--

Kerry


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Perry Como Song
Date: 30 Sep 2001 13:49:13 EDT


When I was a little girl (just last year), I remember a song Perry Como used
to sing, and I'd LOVE to find a copy of it. Anyone remember this? Here are
some of the lyrics: (try not to gag, I know it's schmaltzy, but I NEED to
hear it...)

What did Della wear (Deleware), boy, What did Della wear?
She wore a brand New Jersey, she wore a brand New Jersey

Why did Cali phone ya (California), why did Cali phone
She called to say Hawaii, she called to say Hawaii

I can't remember the rest, is this on an album? HELP!!

Thanks in advance,
Gloria


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From: Jerry Nutter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Hustler
Date: 30 Sep 2001 16:02:16 -0400


Doug Dale: Does anybody know if Baby Doll, The Hustler, Lilith or The Fugitive
Kind are any good?

audiocarp: The Hustler is primo swinging Kenyon Hopkins! One of my all-time
fave records.




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From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Perry Como Song
Date: 30 Sep 2001 21:58:15 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> When I was a little girl (just last year), I remember a song Perry Como used
> to sing, and I'd LOVE to find a copy of it. Anyone remember this? Here are
> some of the lyrics: (try not to gag, I know it's schmaltzy, but I NEED to
> hear it...)
>
> What did Della wear (Deleware), boy, What did Della wear?
> She wore a brand New Jersey, she wore a brand New Jersey
>
> Why did Cali phone ya (California), why did Cali phone
> She called to say Hawaii, she called to say Hawaii
>
> I can't remember the rest, is this on an album? HELP!!

It's just called 'Delaware', and i used to think it was pretty smart
when i was very young.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Perry Como Song
Date: 30 Sep 2001 21:02:03 EDT



In a message dated 9/30/01 1:58:54 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< It's just called 'Delaware', and i used to think it was pretty smart
when i was very young.
 >>

LOL, me too, and I was so proud of myself for getting the joke. My dad and I
used to laugh and laugh at that song.
Gloria


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From: crymad <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Perry Como Song
Date: 30 Sep 2001 22:43:07 -0700




Michael Jemmeson wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:

> > What did Della wear (Deleware), boy, What did Della wear?
> > She wore a brand New Jersey, she wore a brand New Jersey
>
> It's just called 'Delaware', and i used to think it was pretty smart
> when i was very young.

Guy Lombardo's "I'm My Own Grandpa" still astounds me.

--crymad


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