One of my favorite Bollywood singers is Lata Mangeskar, who is around 70 years old. You'll find that most of the time, when actors and actresses sing in Indian films, their lip-synch to songs by the select few vocalists. Lata is known to perform for like 5 or 6 hours straight in concerts, which is pretty amazing considering her age. She's been singing for films since the early 40s. Of course everything about Bollywood films are amazing, singing aside.
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Ya I would like some info on this too. And I don't see anything on the CD burning FAQ. http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/
My opinion is that these guys don't know what they are saying. I had one sales guy say something like 5 years for green, 10 for blue and 100 for gold...and I asked him what about the yellow ones? And he said "yellow? they make yellow?". I think they just want to you to buy the expensive gold ones.
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woodlind@island.net wrote:
>
> Hi all. i know a lot of us are burning Cds here and I just had
> wee little
> talk with a guy in one of the huge electronic chains. I usually
> don't take
> too much stock in what they say, but my paranoid little CDr
> burning mind got
> a bit twisted when this guy proceeded to tell me about my burns
> wearing out.
> And that I should be only buying expensive Gold CDrs that will
> last 15 years
> instead of 2 or 3 with the other colors. It's still early in this
> new phase
> of recording to test old versus new.
> What's anyone know about this????
> Brian Linds
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bollywood voices and locations
Date: 02 Nov 2000 16:05:02 -0500
Mo wrote:
> The other night I heard an unbelievable story about those high female
voices in Indian music, that everyone knows who ever saw a Bollywood
film: Apparently there are only a very few women who can sing like that,
just 3 or 4 of them, some of them very old already, and they seem to
sing on ALL such songs.
----
Pretty much true!
And the coolest part is that 2 of the most important filmi singers were sisters - here, go to the bottom of this page:
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=K229||9
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>The other story I heard today is, that the idyllic surroundings of the
Swiss Alps has become a favorite filming location for Bollywood films in
the last couple of years and in fact: Digging in my collection I found 3
such scenes right away, that were obviously filmed there. Now that's
globalization!
---
One of the biggest audiences for Bollywood filmi was the old Soviet Union. Given the relationship between India and the USSR, most of the international popular films imported into the USSR came from India - they certainly couldn't come from the West! Even now, you can go to the Russian areas of Brooklyn and find lots of Indian videos. The Russians can go on about filmi actors/actresses/plots and sing the songs as well as anyone from Bombay. That's cold war globalization!
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Personally, I thought the only difference was that the blue ones didn't
play on my older CD player, and the gold ones did, due to their
reflectivity. Which has since been misproven - not that I've had
problems with gold ones, but I have had blue and green ones that play
just fine - I think it's the software used to make the copies that's
making the difference.
I don't know why the colour should make a difference to the life of a CD
- although I'm far from a technical expert on these things...
cheryl
> My opinion is that these guys don't know what they are saying. I had one sales guy say something like 5 years for green, 10 for blue and 100 for gold...and I asked him what about the yellow ones? And he said "yellow? they make yellow?". I think they just want to you to buy the expensive gold ones.
>
> woodlind@island.net wrote:
> >
> > Hi all. i know a lot of us are burning Cds here and I just had
> > wee little
> > talk with a guy in one of the huge electronic chains. I usually
> > don't take
> > too much stock in what they say, but my paranoid little CDr
> > burning mind got
> > a bit twisted when this guy proceeded to tell me about my burns
> > wearing out.
> > And that I should be only buying expensive Gold CDrs that will
> > last 15 years
> > instead of 2 or 3 with the other colors. It's still early in this
> > new phase
> > of recording to test old versus new.
> > What's anyone know about this????
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bollywood voices and locations
Date: 03 Nov 2000 01:45:16 +0100
nytab@pipeline.com schrieb:
>
> One of the biggest audiences for Bollywood filmi was the old Soviet Union.
Exactly, that's were "my source" is from. (extremely sexy source, btw) She said that all Indian films follow three basic story lines: 1st: Parents get seperated from their baby son somehow; years later a beautiful young man comes into the house and it's their son! 2nd: a woman between two men: she loves the yong beautiful poor one, but has to marry the rich old fart, 3rd: forgot...
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>Nuggets lp was released in 1972 they used the term (for the first
>time) "PUNK" to describe what is now called 1960s garage rock.
OED's first usage is:
1971 D. MARSH in Creem May 43/3 He's [sc. Rudi Martinez is] doing the knee-drop, and the splits and every other James Brown move. He's the only one in punk-rock who's still got 'em and he's makin' a comeback.
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Anyone heard the Gak Sato "Post-echo" album yet? Since some of you were talking about how Seksu Roba has some Tipsy style similarities (which I heartily agree with), this Gak Sato album some some very definite Tipsy-ish moments. I've had it on constant rotation for the past 2 weeks. Recommended! It's becoming a borderline obsession. In fact if I keep playing it so much, it might start to "wear out". Ha ha.
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I got back to Colombia a month ago but didn't have the time to go to flea markets until last week. I found a Les Baxter guitar album, Nat King Cole en espa±ol, Walter Wanderley's Batucada, a Rita Lee album (don't remember the name but she appears very pregnant in the back cover)...
I also noticed that there were lots of LPs made by different firms as (probably) Christmas presents. There were some from a tire factory, others from a farmaceutical company, others from airlines, other from a glass factory... I guess it was because at the time Lps here were quite expensive, so they made good (and cheap) institutional presents.
I was wondering, did this (the institutional Lps)happen everywhere else in the world? Some of them have really nice covers (nice as in the Boring Postals kind of nice) and the music in them is quite ecclecitc. There was a double Lp from a Renault dealership, for instance, that had a different genre in every side. One was classical the other was ballads, the other was tropical-dance music and the other one I don't remember. Probably rock.
So did this happen elsewhere?
Cheers,
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Herbert Brun, Composer Who Melded Electronics With Music, Dies at 82
By WOLFGANG SAXON
Herbert Brun, a composer who helped introduce the use of electronics and computers in creating music, died on Nov. 6 in Urbana, Ill. He was 82 and lived in Urbana.
Mr. Brun was a professor emeritus of music composition at the University of Illinois School of Music. He formally retired in 1988 but contined to conduct a seminar in experimental composition until his death.
Born in Berlin, Herbert Julius Brun wrote modern music for various instruments. But he also became a central figure in melding electronics and computer technology with music, and his teaching and writings in English and German influenced that development. He left Germany for Palestine in 1936 and studied piano composition in Tel Aviv and at the Jerusalem Conservatory of Music. He took more music courses at Columbia in the late 1940's.
After 1950 he lived in Israel and Germany, writing for the theater, radio and television. His work included lecturing on Bavarian Radio in Munich (where he met his wife, Marianne Kortner), and in summer courses in Darmstadt.
He also conducted research in Paris, Cologne and Munich on the use of electro-acoustic and electronic sound production in composing music, and he repeatedly toured the United States. In 1963 he was offered the professorship at Urbana, which allowed him to expand his study of computer systems as another resource in his work.
While continuing to write pieces for traditional instruments, he used computers to generate sound, which he integrated into his compositions. He wrote widely on the function of computers in music and on the place of music in society and politics.
Last year James Levine and the percussionists of the Metropolitan Opera included an unconducted performance of Mr. Brun's "More Dust" (1977) in a free concert series of contemporary works by, among others, VarΦse and Reich.
In Mr. Brun's piece, Allan Kozinn reported in The New York Times, three musicians proceeded from tambourine, cymbal and xylophone to larger drums to instruments emitting a glasslike sound and on to snares. In the music the instruments interacted with one another and with taped electronic sounds, Mr. Kozinn wrote.
During the 1970's and 80's Mr. Brun held guest professorships at universities in the United States and Germany.
In addition to his wife, Professor Brun is survived by two sons, Michael and Stefan, both of Urbana, and a sister, Erika Brun of Haifa, Israel.
Subject: Re: (exotica) Brain In A Box Rhino Sci-Fi Comp
Date: 16 Nov 2000 19:05:18 -0500
chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Saw the new Rhino 5 cd box set Brain In A Box last night. WOW!
For those who are suspicious of the BiaB, here's a list of those who offered Research Assistance:
Irwin Chusid, Jack Diamond, Josh Elck, David Garland, George Gimarc, Michael Johnson, Patrick Milligan, Andrew Sandoval, David Schwartz, Wayno, Byron Werner, Arthur Franz, Jimmy Hunt and Tor Johnson.
Now, I don't recognize all those names but I am familiar with 7. If they are willing to attach their names to this project, well, that's a seal of quality to me!
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> Herbert Brun, a composer who helped introduce the use of electronics and computers in creating music, died on Nov. 6 in Urbana, Ill. He was 82 and lived in Urbana.
hey, surprise. Urbana really exists! I always thought it's a fancy sci fi name. Urbana, Illinois, the city, where the famous HAL 9000 computer was built.
BTW: Did you know, that there will be a big expedition to Jupiter by next year?
Mo
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>Anybody know who does this kind of thing these days?
There's a constant though small stream of orchestral versions of rock stuff, recently including Led Zep, Yes, Pink Floyd and some others. Some of these even have contributions from actual band members. Also, the Music Club label has put out a few including one of punk songs that I've always been tempted to get.
I'm actually more interested in all the bluegrass covers albums called things like "Pickin' on Boston" or "Pickin' on Aerosmith" which sound positively silly.
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>Senor Coconut is actually Uwe Schmidt. Also known as Atom Heart, Lisa
>Carbon, etc., etc. Someone posted a link a few weeks ago with an
>excellent article on him - I don't have it anymore, though - can someone
>repost this link?
Lisa Carbon is one of my particular favorite side projects of his, a good style for referencing sambas and bossa novas. And don't forget Erik Satin, who is also Uwe Schmidt. That's his own version of easy deconstruction, a more messed up, damaged kind of thing akin to what Tipsy does. I might have posted a link to a review of El Baile Aleman I wrote but it's not an article.
Also try http://www.emperornorton.com which also has links to Atom Heart and Rather Interesting sites
For an article try http://www.globalvillageidiot.net/coconut.htm
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A question friends. I heard this delightful track called ôBossa Nova Romaö by Eydie Gorme and Steve Lawrenceà.any idea what LP I should be looking for? There is soo much of stuff out there.
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> One of the selections that you can hear on the site is the "Peter
> Gun
> Suite", which is nice, because I like some of Hennry Manncinni's
> music.
>
> Briannnnnn
>
Some? Some!! ( just kidding)
Speaking of Henry Mancini. His only "Exotica" record is "The Versatile Henry Manciniö on Liberty Records. Darrell plays it on his show once in a while. He did make a Hawaiian Record years later on RCA. WhatÆs that like? Is it really too easy? Not a big fan of some of his later stuff. He did a LP with Johnny Mathis and thatÆs pretty tame.
And he did the soundtrack for ôThe HawaiianÆsö the 2nd Mitchner Hawaii movie with Charlton Heston.
ThatÆs nice with only about 2 musical themes. Short. The LP is only about 30 minutes.
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> One of the selections that you can hear on the site is the "Peter
> Gun
> Suite", which is nice, because I like some of Hennry Manncinni's
> music.
>
> Briannnnnn
>
Some? Some!! ( just kidding)
Speaking of Henry Mancini. His only "Exotica" record is "The Versatile Henry Manciniö on Liberty Records. Darrell plays it on his show once in a while. He did make a Hawaiian Record years later on RCA. WhatÆs that like? Is it really too easy? Not a big fan of some of his later stuff. He did a LP with Johnny Mathis and thatÆs pretty tame.
And he did the soundtrack for ôThe HawaiianÆsö the 2nd Mitchner Hawaii movie with Charlton Heston.
ThatÆs nice with only about 2 musical themes. Short. The LP is only about 30 minutes.
Domenic Ciccone
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Subject: Re: (exotica) unknown but great 101 strings tracks on Euro LP
Date: 23 Nov 2000 11:33:30 -0800 (PST)
quiet@village.uunet.be wrote:
>
> found a German comp lp, from the late 60's i think, featuring 2
> great
> 101 strings tracks that i hadn't heard before:
>
> Killer Joe a Gogo, and
> Kings Road Rock
>
> both sound as if they belong on "Sounds of today", and are indeed
> also arranged by Monty Kelly (who arranged "Sounds of today"),
> and
> are accompanied here by three tracks from that same "Sounds of
> today".
>
> so, anyone knows what original 101 strings LP these 2 come from?
>
Johan,
Thats might just be on this LP I picked up in a flea market last weekend. "101 Strings The Trendsetters of the 60's"
Track Listing:
Spanish Harlem
A Hard Days Night
Desafinado
Headin' Home
Misty
I Want To Hold Your Hand
Hing Of The Road
Theme From Peter Gunn
Country Rock
Put Your head On MY Shoulder
Discotheque (Killer Joe A Go-Go)
I noticed the last track is written by Kelly sso its the same one. Kelly must be a 101 string guy?
I have an LP called "101 Strings Play Million Seller Hits Written By The Beatles and other "Now" Writers". There is an interesting filler track called "Blues For Guru" also written by M Kelly and it has some sitar action. Very nice.
Can't believe I'm buying, listening and even digitizing 101 string LPs. I even bought a Lawrence Welk LP a few weeks ago because it had "Baby Elephant Walk" on it...what's next? Manilow? It's going to happen! I bought a 45 of of Mandy..when I was a kid....ACK!
Johan. Tell us about "Sounds of Today" another 101 strings?
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Can anyone offer some thoughts about the 101 Strings Orchestra adult records? I have the "Sounds of Love", but there's another one isn't there? I've never seen it or heard it but I've wondered about it.
Also, picked up Tipsy's new "Hard Petting" single. If anyone wants to know, it still has the spirit of Tipsy, but it has some definite funk influence going on. It's really nice. I anticipate a really good LP if the two songs on the single are any indication.
Mr. Unlucky
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Subject: (exotica) George Duning - pre-spaghetti western music
Date: 28 Nov 2000 10:21:08 -0500
I was doing some research on songs by the fantastic '60's Spanish instrumental rock group, Los Relampagos, and discovered the roots of one of their instro arrangements came from a George Duning tune, "3:10 to Yuma" from the 1957 western of the same title - some of Los Relampagos' mid to late 60's music has a bit of a spaghetti western flavor to it, but apparently they were influenced by sound tracks that pre-dated Ennio Morricone's - Los Relampagos' version came out around 1963
The George Duning tune is haunting and infectious - anyone familiar with other works by Duning around this period?
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Subject: Re: (exotica) George Duning - pre-spaghetti western music
Date: 28 Nov 2000 14:59:38 -0500
jmhuber@mindspring.com wrote:
> The George Duning tune is haunting and infectious - anyone familiar with other works by Duning around this period?
Spinning on Air devoted a show, on March 3, 2000, to Duning.
George Duning's music brought charm and poignancy to such films as Picnic; Bell, Book, and Candle; Houseboat; Any Wednesday; The 3:10 to Yuma; and even Mr. Magoo's 1001 Arabian Nights. We hear from all those film scores on this program, which aired just a few days after Duning's death.
Subject: Re: (exotica) Don Byron's CD came up here:
Date: 30 Nov 2000 11:35:31 -0500
>Are any of his other recordings available? Opinions of the CDs
Of most interest to the Exotica list is his album of Mickey Katz songs. Byron was involved in klezmer long before the recent mini-revival (playing in the Klezmer Conservatory Band and got a lot of flack for being black and playing that music. Seems like a strange response to me but then I lead a sheltered life. "Nu Blaxploitation" had a cool concept but apart from interesting moments really doesn't hold together. "Tuskegee Experiments" is a wonderful updating of Third Stream; "Music for Six Musicians" is a tad more jazz-oriented and I like it even better. The live album "No-Vibe Zone" is more extended jazz improv and quite good. I haven't heard his two newest ones but Byron does nice contributions to numerous other albums, including several from Uri Caine and Bobby Previte not to mention a ton of Downtowners from Arto Lindsay to Marc Ribot.
LT
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