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From: owner-dr350-digest@lists.xmission.com (dr350-digest) To: dr350-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: dr350-digest V1 #20 Reply-To: dr350-digest Sender: owner-dr350-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-dr350-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk dr350-digest Friday, April 16 1999 Volume 01 : Number 020 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: jadler@webtv.net (James Adler) Subject: (dr350) newsgroup I'm looking for my post right now, I'm kinda slow on this webtv. Now that you mention it the return I am getting is my copy, I am looking for it on the postings under "kouba in the grop. I will figure it ou, it will just take a little while, Thanks JA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:43:31 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" <ajax@xmission.com> Subject: Re: (dr350) Attention DR350 SE owners! > I had similar problems & sent minne to Cycle Gear & got the magic air box. >All was well when it returned. This was on a 94 & was done in 95 or 96. >Happy Trails >Tim my understanding is that Cycle Gear now longer makes the magic box ... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:39:54 EDT From: TCrowe1234@aol.com Subject: (dr350) Scotts Steering Stabilizer on my 91se I have just installed a Scotts Steering Stabilizer on my 91se and th difference is amazing you can ride a lot faster on and off road with better safety and it also calms the rear end down a lot it was easy to fit the best purchase i have ever mad Ive just got 2 spare wheels of a dr what are the best road tyres that any of you have experence with i was thinking off Pirelli MT60 Tony ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:03:10 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" <marbach@nucleus.com> Subject: Re: (dr350) Should I buy a DR? - -----Original Message----- From: Tony <tkurth@raytheon.com> To: Bryan Cowger <cowger@core.rose.hp.com>; dr350@lists.xmission.com <dr350@lists.xmission.com> Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 6:03 AM Subject: (dr350) Should I buy a DR? >I'm looking for the best dual sport bike and the DR350(SE) seem just >about the best, but for all you experienced owners - some questions. Tony, I think you can determine which bikes are good DS bikes pretty easy and the DR350 definitely falls into this category! However, after that actually rating the good ones and picking a winner is real tough. It comes down to your riding style, intended use and ergonomics. This can make my best DS bike your least favorite and vice versa. If you have any chance to ride I DR350 I'd recommend it and for that matter some of the competition too. Its amazing how small differences in design can really make or break a bike when it comes to individual preference. Good luck! Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:03:10 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" <marbach@nucleus.com> Subject: Re: (dr350) Should I buy a DR? - -----Original Message----- From: Tony <tkurth@raytheon.com> To: Bryan Cowger <cowger@core.rose.hp.com>; dr350@lists.xmission.com <dr350@lists.xmission.com> Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 6:03 AM Subject: (dr350) Should I buy a DR? >I'm looking for the best dual sport bike and the DR350(SE) seem just >about the best, but for all you experienced owners - some questions. Tony, I think you can determine which bikes are good DS bikes pretty easy and the DR350 definitely falls into this category! However, after that actually rating the good ones and picking a winner is real tough. It comes down to your riding style, intended use and ergonomics. This can make my best DS bike your least favorite and vice versa. If you have any chance to ride I DR350 I'd recommend it and for that matter some of the competition too. Its amazing how small differences in design can really make or break a bike when it comes to individual preference. Good luck! Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:56:25 EDT From: RAld277@aol.com Subject: (dr350) Bottom Trouble I just got done talking to Scott Products, they claim that I should not use Progressive springs. I think that they may be right. I called Progressive and they only offer one size spring for the DR. I have a hard time believing one spring will be right for a 160 lb. and also serve well for a 250 lb. rider (me). Anyone have any comments? I am also interested in setting up my bike with the Kouba links. Hopefully I can get some good info on what springs to use from one of y'all. Mike A. Nashville PS I am an intermediate rider, off road only. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:10:58 -0700 From: Bryan Cowger <cowger@core.rose.hp.com> Subject: Re: (dr350) Bottom Trouble Mike, I'm 210 w/o gear. I have Kouba links and a 7.6 kg/mm Eibach shock spring. Works well for me (with the exception of the stock valving). You might consider the next size stronger spring. I'm in the process of adding a Gold Valve to the shock. The stock valving is bottoming out during relatively small jumps, even with the compression clicker all the way in (not MX stuff -- just smaller trail jumps). Check out Race Tech's web site: http://www.race-tech.com Bryan '96 DR441 > > I just got done talking to Scott Products, they claim that I should not use > Progressive springs. I think that they may be right. I called Progressive and > they only offer one size spring for the DR. I have a hard time believing one > spring will be right for a 160 lb. and also serve well for a 250 lb. rider > (me). Anyone have any comments? I am also interested in setting up my bike > with the Kouba links. Hopefully I can get some good info on what springs to > use from one of y'all. > > Mike A. > Nashville > > PS I am an intermediate rider, off road only. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:05:36 -0700 From: George Kovacs <mtctech@acronet.net> Subject: Re: (dr350) Attention DR350 SE owners! Correct , I just talk to cycle gear, they said currently they don't have any body to make the air box for them, i also asked them , what do you have for a DR-SE to boost power , he said a carb upgrade for $278 ( pumper) carb, jetted, ready to go. He did not mentioned anything g about JX needle, I will call them again on that or maybe check with Thumper. Thanks all for the reply on that issue. George Kurt Simpson wrote: > > I had similar problems & sent minne to Cycle Gear & got the magic air box. > >All was well when it returned. This was on a 94 & was done in 95 or 96. > >Happy Trails > >Tim > > my understanding is that Cycle Gear now longer makes the magic box ... > > Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:43:02 PDT From: "Bryan Nolastname" <vfrman@hotmail.com> Subject: (dr350) carb mod survey Earlier today, I said that I took my stock 95 SE and cut off the whole top of the box, ran it for a while, and it sucked (so much hesitation over 5K it was ridiculous). Then I put in a K&N filter and, here is the important thing, I added the JX needle & spring recommended/sold by Thumper Racing as the only carb mod necessary. On the next ride, things were much better, and I was seeing pretty much seamless power at all revs....or so I thought. Today I rode more, and I still think it could run better....still seems to be a little lean. And when I was riding some off-road trails/hills, the throttle wasnt nearly as responsive as the long revving, smooth shifting hiway spin I did the other day. And of course there is the substantial, predictable popping on deceleration every time I slow down. I seem to recall seeing alot of folks on this list saying the JX needle/spring was the only thing they needed. Can I get a little head count here? Please indicate, with or without comments, which of the following scenarios applies to you: ABSN: I did airbox/filter mods with just the spring/needle fix ABSNJ: I did airbox/filter mods, and went a step further & changed main and/or pilot jets in addition to the spring/needle fix ABESN: I did airbox/filter mods and exhaust mods with just the spring/needle fix ABESNJ: I did airbox/filter mods and exhaust mods with the spring/needle fix and jetting changes OTHER: Any combination not mentioned above I guess the above should only apply to SE owners, as the dirt-only carb is a whole different ballgame. I will keep track of how many "votes" each of the above options receive and post the results after a few days. Bryan in Dallas _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:34:13 -0400 From: Harald Glass <hglass@nexicom.net> Subject: Re: (dr350) Mods and Mission Irrelevent - --------------7E58ACECC30BBAB432F802DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Nolastword wrote: > Earlier today, I said that I took my stock 95 SE and cut off the whole > top of the box, ran it for a while, and it sucked (so much hesitation > over 5K it was ridiculous). Then I put in a K&N filter and, here is > the important thing, I added the JX needle & spring recommended/sold > by Thumper Racing as the only carb mod necess blah, blah, blah... I don't get it: RIDE the the damn thing STOCK, look after the scoot's vital needs, get smooth and good, and then, when your abilty outstrips your mount's limitations get a KTM or Cannondale MX400, period!! ...why do the factory's shoddy R&D on YOUR Visa and time away from the dirt? John Penton would ride a pretty much stock BMW R26 TO the JackPine, IN the JackPine for two days, and BACK HOME, without whining about some missing Shnuba Kuba Earl"s Fork link or a leaky Bing. A certain Mr. Bates used to market a METHANE carburator adaptor to run your infernar combustion engine on fermented chicken shit. Now there's a handicap that would separate the boys from the men: put your needle anywhwere it feels good and sweet. Perhaps I'm missing the point of this list. Try www.cannondale.com ...more than mountain bikes, for sure. Respectfully, HPG Your methanedist in Millbrook, ON. CA. "Beans do more than Milton can To justify God's ways to Men" - --------------7E58ACECC30BBAB432F802DF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Bryan Nolastword wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Earlier today, I said that I took my stock 95 SE and cut off the whole top of the box, ran it for a while, and it sucked (so much hesitation over 5K it was ridiculous). Then I put in a K&N filter and, here is the important thing, I added the JX needle & spring recommended/sold by Thumper Racing as the only carb mod necess</blockquote> blah, blah, blah... I don't get it: RIDE the the damn thing STOCK, look after the scoot's vital needs, get smooth and good, and then, when your abilty outstrips your mount's limitations get a KTM or Cannondale MX400, period!! ...why do the factory's shoddy R&D on YOUR Visa and time away from the dirt? John Penton would ride a pretty much stock BMW R26 TO the JackPine, IN the JackPine for two days, and BACK HOME, without whining about some missing Shnuba Kuba Earl"s Fork link or a leaky Bing. A certain Mr. Bates used to market a METHANE carburator adaptor to run your infernar combustion engine on fermented chicken shit. Now there's a handicap that would separate the boys from the men: put your needle anywhwere it feels good and sweet. Perhaps I'm missing the point of this list. Try www.cannondale.com ...more than mountain bikes, for sure. Respectfully, HPG Your methanedist in Millbrook, ON. CA. "Beans do more than Milton can To justify God's ways to Men" </html> - --------------7E58ACECC30BBAB432F802DF-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:02:37 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" <ajax@xmission.com> Subject: Re: (dr350) Mods and Mission Irrelevent >I don't get it: >Perhaps I'm missing the point of this list. Harold, indeed, I think you are missing the point of this list and perhaps it isn't a good fit for you. This list and every other motorycle list on the web is an enthusiast's list where people enjoy sharing their experience with their bikes..tweaking this...changing that...this list happens to be about tweaking and playing with the DR350, I can't imagine what you think the point of this list is other than that and frankly don't care. If this post was in jest use a smily next time, otherwise say goodbye before I say it for you...if you have a problem with my response post it offline to me personally. Kurt Simpson (List Administrator) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:13:43 -0600 From: "Tom Warr" <drwarr@montana.com> Subject: Re: (dr350) Suggestions for Kouba link useage >I have a 5.10 Kenda rear tire . .. . I have been using Pirelli MT 21 tires for some time. I really like the tire on dirt and gravel roads - very predictable traction. Reasonable mileage for a knobbie. Throws off mud pretty well. For better traction in the mud - lower the tire pressure to about 12 psi. Because I put most of my miles are high speed on gravel and dirt roads, I get only about 1500 miles per rear tire. Its performance really degrades after about 1200 miles, as the knobs wear down to less than 50% height. (I think tires wear about twice as fast on gravel as pavement.) Last year, I inadvertantly replaced the rear tire with a bigger size - 120/90 - instead of standard -110/80. The tire pattern is the same, but the larger tire has fewer (21 versus 25), larger (1/2 inch tall versus 3/8 inch) knobs , spaced farther apart. Not really that much bigger - it fits fine. Looks like I'll get 2000 miles out of it. I really noticed a change in the bike's handling with the bigger tire. The larger tire produced a speed wobble that was very disconcerting, with a frequency of about 1-2 per second. I stopped during my ride and dialed in more preload on the front forks, and let some air out (I ended up about 18 psi). That fixed the wobble. Once compensated for, the bigger tire works fine. When futzing with suspension, don't forget to consider how much tires effect handling. TW ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 05:26:31 PDT From: "Bryan Nolastname" <vfrman@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (dr350) Mods and Mission Irrelevent I got yer "blah blah" hangin', Harry! Hell, why be on the list at all if all you need to do is just ride? If you think my "survey" idea is stupid, fine. But maybe alot of people on the list like to screw with their bikes, like to learn from others' trial & error, and dont want to buy up to a better bike even if $ is not an issue (just described myself). When I get done with all the crap I'm gonna do to mine, it will bear little resemblence to a stock DR350. And I will enjoy the process of doing it. Contrary to what you say in your closing, your reply was anything but respectful, and yeah, you missed the point! Bryan in Dallas >From: Harald Glass <hglass@nexicom.net> >To: Bryan Nolastname <vfrman@hotmail.com> >CC: dr350@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (dr350) Mods and Mission Irrelevent >Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:34:13 -0400 > >Bryan Nolastword wrote: > >> Earlier today, I said that I took my stock 95 SE and cut off the whole >> top of the box, ran it for a while, and it sucked (so much hesitation >> over 5K it was ridiculous). Then I put in a K&N filter and, here is >> the important thing, I added the JX needle & spring recommended/sold >> by Thumper Racing as the only carb mod necess > >blah, blah, blah... > >I don't get it: > >RIDE the the damn thing STOCK, >look after the scoot's vital needs, >get smooth and good, >and then, when your abilty outstrips your mount's limitations >get a KTM or Cannondale MX400, period!! >...why do the factory's shoddy R&D on YOUR Visa and time away >from the dirt? > >John Penton would ride a pretty much stock >BMW R26 TO the JackPine, IN the JackPine for two days, >and BACK HOME, without whining about some >missing Shnuba Kuba Earl"s Fork link or a leaky Bing. > >A certain Mr. Bates used to market a METHANE carburator adaptor >to run your infernar combustion engine on fermented chicken shit. >Now there's a handicap that would separate the boys from the men: >put your needle anywhwere it feels good and sweet. > >Perhaps I'm missing the point of this list. > >Try www.cannondale.com >...more than mountain bikes, for sure. > >Respectfully, >HPG >Your methanedist in Millbrook, ON. CA. >"Beans do more than Milton can >To justify God's ways to Men" > > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ End of dr350-digest V1 #20 **************************