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dr-digest           Tuesday, April 25 2000           Volume 01 : Number 118



Re: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that?
Re: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that?
(dr) Re: Jetting advice...
Re: (dr) drz400
(dr) Street-legal CR250s
(dr) RE: Jetting advice...
(dr) What Bridgestone/Firestone should have done with 10,000-acres of land

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:44:06 -0700
From: "Jeff A. Henshaw" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that?

I don't know how some of you guy's figure you're gonna get water in the
airbox?  Do you ride in water up to the bottom of the seat?  And wouldn't
the stock airbox take in water if you submerge IT up to the top?  Of course
it would...  I don't get it?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Moon" <[e-mail]>
To: "Oliver Block" <[e-mail]>; <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that?


> I believe it is because water can easily enter the carb through the
> airbox if one cuts holes in it or uses a vortex airbox.  That's why
> mine is going to sealed back up with tape as the original owner cut it
> up.  by the way, anyone have a stock airbox that will fit a 92 DR350S
> that they would like to be rid of?
>
> Jon
>
> --- Oliver Block <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I apologize for this very basic question, but why did Suzuki
> > choose that airbox design (on the DR350s) if it is so incredibly
> > restrictive?  Is there a downside to cutting the top off the airbox?
> > Every person I know who has had their DR for a while has upgraded to
> > the Cycle Gear or Vortec airbox, so why didn't Suzuki buy the rights
> > to those designs a long time ago and incorporate it into the stock
> > bike?  Obviously I am totally ignorant as to how the after-market
> > industry and bike manufacturers interact - if anyone out there has a
> > minute to inform me I'd greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > As always, thanks for your time and your patience with a beginner.
> >
> > -Oliver
> > `1995 DR350SE
> >
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:58:41 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that?

Suzuki wanted to sell the DR in Eurpoe, as well as the USA, but only wanted
to make one bike. In some European countries there is a horsepower limitation
on younger riders for street use (which is 29 hp, so it goes). So Suzuki made
a great bike, then choked it down to meet the laws in the countries they sold
it into, hence only 29 hp. But underneath that sheep's clothing is a wolf
waiting to be released. That's why the airbox and exhaust mods give such a
great boost.

Someone told me that one a while back and I believe one of our readers (from
Europe) said something similar and confirming.

As an aside, a buddy of mine showed me a dirt bike magazine from Japan that
had street legal kits for the Honda CR250! Lights, turn signals- the whole
works! The ads in this magazine indicated to me that there are minimal
hassles in Japan to get ANY bike street legal- even two strokes! I wonder if
the DR350 sold in Japan comes with a restrictive airbox, exhaust, etc.

Scott

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:03:28 -0700
From: "Chris &/or Sheila Beauchemin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Re: Jetting advice...

Hi Jesse,

I found your post informative because I will soon be doing the same.
However, I must confess to being slightly confused.  Thumper Racing told
me that one only really needs to change the main jet on a DR350SE if the
muffler is being replaced (even though it makes sense to me that providing
more airflow will require more fuel at all RPM's).

Could it be that Thumper Racing is correct because there is a limited
increase in airflow at higher RPM (where the main jet comes into play)
due to the restricted nature of the stock airbox (even if it is cut open)?

Or, have you observed that increasing the main jet size is still necessary
given the "airbox-carving-and-jx-needle-and-spring" modification?

Am I missing something?

Chris Beauchemin

> Install a 140 main jet and get a jx needle and spring from Thumper Racing
> and put the clip in the fourth groove down on the needle. This should help
> the starting and give you a little more boost for little $$
>
> Regards,
> Jesse Kientz



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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:26:16 -0400
From: "preisinger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) drz400

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:37:40 -0700
From: "Greg Lara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Street-legal CR250s

> As an aside, a buddy of mine showed me a dirt bike magazine from Japan
that
> had street legal kits for the Honda CR250! Lights, turn signals- the whole
> works! The ads in this magazine indicated to me that there are minimal
> hassles in Japan to get ANY bike street legal- even two strokes! I wonder
if
> the DR350 sold in Japan comes with a restrictive airbox, exhaust, etc.

Actually, in Japan Honda sells street-legal CR250s right out of the box. On
the other hand, the Japanese government is actually quite restrictive on
motorcycles (as well as cars). For example, they have a tiered licensing
system based on displacement and horsepower. Something like: 50 cc
(scooters), under 250 cc, under 400 cc (53 HP max), and unlimited. Their
licensing requirements are very tough and require a lengthy, difficult road
test including slow-speed agility/control tests that I expect most of us
would fail. Many people who want a license for a big bike pay $2,000 -
$3,000 to attend a driving school for two or three months where they can
memorize the road course in order to pass the test. Those who don't take
this approach may have to take the road test 10 times before passing. (Of
course, once they fail one test, there is usually a six-week waiting period
until they can schedule their next road test.) In comparison, the license
test here in CA was a joke.

In addition, bikes 400cc and over must be submitted to a semi-annual safety
inspection. Because the government inspector will simply fail the bike upon
finding the first fault (and not tell you what else is wrong with the bike),
many people pay a few hundred dollars to have a mechanic perform a
pre-inspection.

On the flip side, the displacement restrictions apply to 2-stroke and
4-stroke bikes alike. 250cc bikes seem to be the most popular, due to
minimized licensing, inspection, and insurance hassles. Therefore, you find
many 250cc 2-strike bikes, both dirt bikes and two-cylinder repli-racers.
When I was living in Tokyo, I rode a Yamaha TDR250, a 250cc twin in a
dual-sport configuration. To be honest, it was completely biased towards
street riding, but it was a real screamer!.

- --Greg

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:29:38 -0700
From: "Jesse Kientz   www.kientech.com" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) RE: Jetting advice...

Hi Chris, I have found that with the airbox cut back fire screen removed and
a free flowing pipe requires a richer main jet plus the needle clip in the
fourth groove down. If it is too rich it will break up on wide open
throttle. Plus  you should check your plug color after you do this or any
jetting it will tell you what is happening. hope this clears up the
confusion. If you have more questions please feel free to get back to me.

Regards,
Jesse Kientz
http://www.kientech.com/

- -----Original Message-----
From: Chris &/or Sheila Beauchemin [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 6:03 PM
To: DR list
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Jetting advice...


Hi Jesse,

I found your post informative because I will soon be doing the same.
However, I must confess to being slightly confused.  Thumper Racing told
me that one only really needs to change the main jet on a DR350SE if the
muffler is being replaced (even though it makes sense to me that providing
more airflow will require more fuel at all RPM's).

Could it be that Thumper Racing is correct because there is a limited
increase in airflow at higher RPM (where the main jet comes into play)
due to the restricted nature of the stock airbox (even if it is cut open)?

Or, have you observed that increasing the main jet size is still necessary
given the "airbox-carving-and-jx-needle-and-spring" modification?

Am I missing something?

Chris Beauchemin

> Install a 140 main jet and get a jx needle and spring from Thumper Racing
> and put the clip in the fourth groove down on the needle. This should help
> the starting and give you a little more boost for little $$
>
> Regards,
> Jesse Kientz




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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:40:40 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (dr) What Bridgestone/Firestone should have done with 10,000-acres of land

C. Al Roof
Promoter - The Honda Hoot Carolina Dual Sport Adventure Ride
Founder & President - The Blue Ridge Pathfinders Motorcycle Club, Inc.
Office Manager / Special Events Coordinator - Suzuki Kawasaki of Gastonia
Public Relations Officer - The North Carolina Off-Highway Vehicle
Association, Inc.
Alternate State Representative - The National Off-Highway Vehicle
Conservation Council, Inc.
3224 Sparrow Springs Road
Gastonia, North Carolina  28052
[phone] Home
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April 25, 2000


Public Affairs Department
Bridgestone/Firestone, Inc.
50 Century Boulevard
Nashville, Tennessee 37214
[phone]
[phone] Fax
[e-mail]

RE:  What Bridgestone/Firestone should have done with 10,000-acres of
land


Dear Gentlemen and Ladies,

Below you will find a press release on Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America,
Inc. (MMSA) breathing new life into a damaged Colorado National Forest
recreational site.  Mitsubishi's funding will repair and improve the
Grand Lake Multiple-Use Trail System, one of the Colorado's most heavily
used trail systems.  The trails provide recreational opportunities for
riders of motorcycles, ATVs, snowmobiles and four-wheel drive vehicles as
well as skiers, snowshoers, horseback riders, mountain bikers,
backpackers and hikers.

Think about how much better it would have been if Bridgestone/Firestone
would have created a multiple-use recreation area providing recreational
opportunities for riders of motorcycles, ATVs, snowmobiles and four-wheel
drive vehicles as well as skiers, snowshoers, horseback riders, mountain
bikers, backpackers and hikers on the 10,000-acres donated to the State
of Tennessee which will only allow low-impact activities such as fishing,
canoeing, kayaking, hiking and hunting, making no consieration for
off-highway vehicle recreation.

I have yet to receive a reply to my e-mail letter to you dated April 15.
As I stated in that letter, UNLESS YOU CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE (i.e.
making provisions for OHV recreation), the ED77 and ED78 tires that are
now mounted on my dual purpose motorcycle will immediately be replaced by
tires from a manufacturer who is more sensitive to it's customer base.  I
will hang these tires in effigy at every OHV club meeting and event I
attend.  I will encourage the membership of each and every OHV club,
enthusiast group and national organization I can to boycott
Bridgestone/Firestone products, and I will ask the manufactures of my
motorcycle, all-terrain-vehicle, sport utility vehicle, and truck to do
the same.

I am deeply concerned and eagerly await your reply.  Please have the
common courtesy to send me a reply.

Sincerely,

Al

C. Al Roof
Promoter - The Honda Hoot Carolina Dual Sport Adventure Ride
Founder & President - The Blue Ridge Pathfinders Motorcycle Club, Inc.
Office Manager / Special Events Coordinator - Suzuki Kawasaki of Gastonia
Public Relations Officer - The North Carolina Off-Highway Vehicle
Association, Inc.
Alternate State Representative - The National Off-Highway Vehicle
Conservation Council, Inc.


- ---------------------------------------------Forwarded
Message------------------------------------------------------------------
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Mitsubishi Motors Sponsors Colorado National Forest Restoration

Auto Company Helps the Environment as a Tread Lightly! Partner In
Education, Recreation and Restoration

 CYPRESS, Calif., April 24 /PRNewswire/ -- With its deep commitment to
support environmental issues, Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America, Inc.
(MMSA) breathes new life into a damaged Colorado National Forest
recreational site.

MMSA will partner with Tread Lightly!, a not-for-profit educational
organization dedicated to promoting responsible outdoor recreation and
protecting the great outdoors.  MMSA is an official sponsor of Tread
Lightly!'s "Restoration for Recreation" program.  This program helps
ensure that damaged lands become enjoyable recreation havens.  It
accomplishes this through land rehabilitation and public education on
outdoor ethics to minimize future impacts.

The Colorado project, the first in a planned series of national
restoration projects sponsored by MMSA, consists of the construction of a
new bridge, several stream crossings and restoration of nearby trails.
The project, scheduled to begin this summer, is located in the Stillwater
Pass area of the Sulphur Ranger District in Grand County, Colorado.  The
Colorado State Parks Trails Program has also provided a grant for this
project.

A ribbon-cutting ceremony to celebrate the project's completion is
tentatively scheduled for Sept. 23, 2000, to coincide with "National
Public Lands Day."

"We care about the environment and we're very proud to support this
critical restoration project, especially at a time when government
budgets have been cut by as much as 80 percent," said Ellen Gleberman,
MMSA senior vice president, legal, government relations and public
affairs.  "The program not only protects and preserves our land for
future responsible use, but it also creates valuable partnerships with
government agencies, private corporations and the public.  It's a win-win
situation for everyone involved," she added.

The bridge will feature a natural, "cobblestone" look and will be built
from recycled stone and steel materials.  Another environmental benefit
comes into play during construction -- the bridge will be built in pieces
that are easily transported to the project site for assembly.  These
pieces won't require the use of heavy construction equipment, thereby
eliminating the associated environmental impacts.

The bridge will be installed on the Grand Lake Multiple-Use Trail System,
one of the states' most heavily used trail systems.  The trails provide
recreational opportunities for riders of motorcycles, ATVs, snowmobiles
and four-wheel drive vehicles as well as skiers, snowshoers, horseback
riders, mountain bikers, backpackers and hikers.

With the increase in popularity as well as its multi-use nature, the
trail system is showing the impact of heavy use.  Loss of vegetation
coupled with stream bank erosion has caused excess sediment to be
deposited into the stream at the current crossings.  This in turn reduces
water quality and presents hazards to the public and the wildlife,
especially the cutthroat trout, a fish recognized by Colorado as a
"sensitive" species.  Installing a new bridge and water crossings will
dramatically reduce the amount of sediment being deposited, allowing more
eco-friendly use of this recreational area.

Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America, Inc. was established in 1982 by
Mitsubishi Motors Corporation, Tokyo, and markets a full line of
vehicles, including coupes, convertibles, sedans and sport utility
vehicles.  The website address is www.mitsubishicars.com.

Tread Lightly!'s website address is www.treadlightly.org.

SOURCE  Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America, Inc.

CO:  Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America, Inc.; Colorado National Forest;
Tread      Lightly!; Colorado State Parks Trails Program

ST:  California, Colorado

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