ftp.xmission.com/2014.06.ftp.xmission.com.tar/ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/dr/archive/v01.n033

Internet Message Format | 2000-02-10 | 18KB

From: [e-mail] (dr-digest)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: dr-digest V1 #33
Reply-To: dr-digest
Sender: [e-mail]
Errors-To: [e-mail]
Precedence: bulk


dr-digest          Friday, February 11 2000          Volume 01 : Number 033



(dr) Airbox upgrade
RE: (dr) Intro
Re: (dr) Airbox upgrade
(dr) fork oil measurements
RE: (dr) Airbox upgrade
RE: (dr) fork oil measurements
Re: (dr) Airbox upgrade
RE: (dr) Airbox upgrade
RE: (dr) Airbox upgrade
(dr) air box
RE: (dr) air box
RE: (dr) air box
Re: (dr) Airbox upgrade

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:09:09 -0600
From: Bryan Ply <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Airbox upgrade

List,

        Sorry to bother the group again so fast, but after calling
Thumper
Racing and finding out they want 279 for the vortec airbox, and then
getting the NO from the wife, I was wondering what the exact procedure
is for cutting out the stock airbox so that it flows better.

Bryan

- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:19:31 -0800 (PST)
From: john miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) Intro

- --- "Jesse Kientz   www.kientech.com" <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> Hi Bryan, well lets approach this carefully. If you
> have the pumper carb,
>  Throttle / cable mechanism) should be on the right
> side when sitting on the
> bike. Fuel screw: located in front of the bowl
> bottom center of the carb. a
> tee handle aftermarket fuel screw available from
> Thumper Racing at
> 1-800-259-5186 will give you the easiest adjustment
> capabilities that you
> can possibly get. This pumper carb is the best you
> can get for the DR350.
> Airbox: Your stock airbox is strangling the engine
> from the get go,134.3 cfm
> on a flow bench so this is one reason why you are
> having problems at high
> elevation. The vortex will provide twice the air
> volume (265 cfm on a flow
> bench) as the stock one plus give you better
> throttle response, longer
> intervals between servicing the filter and its much
> simpler to change the
> element. an added note is that it will support any
> engine moods that you do
> and give you serious performance gains. If I can be
> of further help please
> feel free to contact me.
> My best regards Jesse
>
> Bryan this airbox WILL INDEED breath new life into
your DR.It made a huge difference in throttle response
and I would be hard pressed to see someone that would
not be happy with the results.I highly recommend it to
any DR owner as this single mod was the best money I
have yet to spend on my bike.You will not be
dissapionted.To give you an idea of how much more air
volume this box flows I had to jet up from a 127.5 to
a 147.5 with the addition of the box and FMF exhuast.

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com

- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:22:34 -0800 (PST)
From: john miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) Airbox upgrade

- --- Bryan Ply <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> List,
>
>         Sorry to bother the group again so fast, but
> after calling
> Thumper
> Racing and finding out they want 279 for the vortec
> airbox, and then
> getting the NO from the wife, I was wondering what
> the exact procedure
> is for cutting out the stock airbox so that it flows
> better.
>
> Bryan
>
> -Step one tell the wife who the king of the castle
is.Step two buy airbox.(joke)
>  to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to
> "[e-mail]"
>  with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
>  For information on digests or retrieving files and
> old messages send
>  "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in
> your message.
>
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com

- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:07:53 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Michael Reina)
Subject: (dr) fork oil measurements

  When measuring oil level on forks with race-tech cartrige emulators,
Should the emulators be in (fork collaspes, no springs) or out of the
fork tubes.
Somebody please help I'm in the middle of this job!
thanks, Mike Reina


- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:18:33 -0800
From: "Jesse Kientz   www.kientech.com" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) Airbox upgrade

HI Bryan, the procedure is to first remove the stock airfilter element and
seal up the opening into the carb then draw a line about a half inch behind
the bracket that holds the airbox in and cut with a saber saw side to side
and stop at the edge of the foam rubber that runs just under the frame on
each side then do the same thing at the rear of the airbox right along the
edge of the foam that runs side to side. next you cut front to back along
the edge of the foam rubber on each side. Vacuum out all of the chips and
reinstall the airfilter. You will have to rejet the carb I would try a 140
main to start with and leave the pilot stock you will open the fuel screw to
one and three quarter turns out from fully closed. drop the clip on the
needle to the fourth groove. now keep track of your plug color. Black is too
rich brown is correct and gray to white is lean. hope this helps if you have
more questions please feel free to contact me.....Jesse

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On
Behalf Of Bryan Ply
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:09 PM
To: dr_list
Subject: (dr) Airbox upgrade



List,

        Sorry to bother the group again so fast, but after calling
Thumper
Racing and finding out they want 279 for the vortec airbox, and then
getting the NO from the wife, I was wondering what the exact procedure
is for cutting out the stock airbox so that it flows better.

Bryan

- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.


- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:20:06 -0800
From: "Jesse Kientz   www.kientech.com" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) fork oil measurements

I would do it with the emulators in.
regards Jesse

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On
Behalf Of Michael Reina
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 5:08 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: (dr) fork oil measurements


  When measuring oil level on forks with race-tech cartrige emulators,
Should the emulators be in (fork collaspes, no springs) or out of the
fork tubes.
Somebody please help I'm in the middle of this job!
thanks, Mike Reina


- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.


- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:48:50 -0800
From: Wayne Marsula' <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) Airbox upgrade

"Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" wrote:
>
> HI Bryan, the procedure is to first remove the stock airfilter element and
> seal up the opening into the carb then draw a line about a half inch behind
> the bracket that holds the airbox in and cut with a saber saw side to side

Jesse,
    How about sending him the airflow specs on cutting the stock box vs.
the Vortex Box?
    I have no interest personally in doing either mod to my DR, but feel if
something is to be done, the most efficient way is the best.
Wayne Marsula'
Escondido, CA        "See y'all in Moab"

- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:27:40 -0800
From: "Jesse Kientz   www.kientech.com" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) Airbox upgrade

Hi Again Bryan, as I mentioned before your stock airbox flows 134.3 cfm of
air on a flowbench, this is with a clean and oiled filter element.  When
this test was done it was also tested with the access door off and had a
gain in flow up to 142.5 then the filter element was removed in addition to
the access door and the flow was increased slightly to 145.1 cfm. this
indicates that the airbox itself is extremely restrictive. your gain in
cutting out the top of the stock airbox would be a little over 8 cfm I must
admit that this does help some but it falls far short of the Vortex and its
265 cfm. I hope this information helps you and others on the list to make
informed decisions when considering increasing the airflow by cutting out
the top of the airbox.
my best regards to you all Jesse

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On
Behalf Of Wayne Marsula'
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:49 AM
To: Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com
Cc: Bryan Ply; dr_list
Subject: Re: (dr) Airbox upgrade


"Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" wrote:
>
> HI Bryan, the procedure is to first remove the stock airfilter element and
> seal up the opening into the carb then draw a line about a half inch
behind
> the bracket that holds the airbox in and cut with a saber saw side to side

Jesse,
    How about sending him the airflow specs on cutting the stock box vs.
the Vortex Box?
    I have no interest personally in doing either mod to my DR, but feel if
something is to be done, the most efficient way is the best.
Wayne Marsula'
Escondido, CA        "See y'all in Moab"

- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.


- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:34:20 -0800
From: "Jesse Kientz   www.kientech.com" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) Airbox upgrade

Hi Wayne, thanks for the heads up. I have been checking around here on this
discovery trail and have come up short is it near southern Oregon. If it is
you would be welcome to leave your vehicle at my place it would be secure
here as I am here most all the time.....Jesse

- -----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Marsula' [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:49 AM
To: Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com
Cc: Bryan Ply; dr_list
Subject: Re: (dr) Airbox upgrade


"Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" wrote:
>
> HI Bryan, the procedure is to first remove the stock airfilter element and
> seal up the opening into the carb then draw a line about a half inch
behind
> the bracket that holds the airbox in and cut with a saber saw side to side

Jesse,
    How about sending him the airflow specs on cutting the stock box vs.
the Vortex Box?
    I have no interest personally in doing either mod to my DR, but feel if
something is to be done, the most efficient way is the best.
Wayne Marsula'
Escondido, CA        "See y'all in Moab"


- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:03:52 -0500
From: Mike Ballou <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) air box

How much louder is the Vortex box compared with the stock box.
Mike



- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:12:34 -0800
From: "Jesse Kientz   www.kientech.com" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) air box

Good Question Mike, I would say with every thing stock including exhaust,
you could hear the increased air flow, from under the seat. However it is
not an irritating noise to me anyway. If an aftermarket exhaust is installed
I don't believe it would be noticeable, It is not to me . Hope this answers
your question

regards Jesse
- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On
Behalf Of Mike Ballou
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 8:04 AM
To: 'DR'
Subject: (dr) air box


How much louder is the Vortex box compared with the stock box.
Mike



- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.


- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:39:14 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) air box

> How much louder is the Vortex box compared with the stock box.
> Mike

For anyone interested...Dual Sport News did an evaluation of the Vortex box in its
December issue. It was a very postive review. The carb drake noise is increased but as
Jesse said not in any way that is irritating...it makes it sound like its nose is
unstuffed (g)

Kurt


- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:12:41 -0800
From: Jeff Corsaro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) Airbox upgrade


    One thing to keep in mind, is that if you were to sell the bike latter
with a cut stock air box, it will decrease the value.  It would cost more to
buy a new replacement Suzuki air box than a Vortec box.  If you bought the
Vortec box and you decide to sell the bike, you can put all the stock goods
back on and sell the aftermarket goodies for 50-70% of what you paid for
them new.  Most people buying a used bike don't care for the aftermarket
stuff, it looks better to have a stock bike because it is perceived that the
bike has never been raced or thrashed to most buyers.

Jeff Corsaro in San Diego



> From: Bryan Ply <[e-mail]>
> Reply-To: Bryan Ply <[e-mail]>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:09:09 -0600
> To: dr_list <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (dr) Airbox upgrade
>
>
> List,
>
> Sorry to bother the group again so fast, but after calling
> Thumper
> Racing and finding out they want 279 for the vortec airbox, and then
> getting the NO from the wife, I was wondering what the exact procedure
> is for cutting out the stock airbox so that it flows better.
>
> Bryan
>
> -
> to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
> with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
> For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
> "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.


- -
 to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.

------------------------------

End of dr-digest V1 #33
***********************

-
 To unsubscribe to $LIST, send an email to "[e-mail]"
 with "unsubscribe $LIST" in the body of the message.
 For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send
 "help" to the same address.  Do not use quotes in your message.