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From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest)
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Subject: canslim-digest V2 #430
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canslim-digest Tuesday, November 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 430
In this issue:
[CANSLIM] Breakouts/ When to buy/ 4 entry points to be aware of
[CANSLIM] Breakouts/When to buy/Entry points to be aware of #2
RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
[CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
[CANSLIM] Breakouts/When to buy/4 main entry points to be aware of #3
RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
RE: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
RE: [CANSLIM] Breakouts
RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
[CANSLIM] QPv2
RE: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
RE: [CANSLIM] QPv2
Re: [CANSLIM] QPv2
[CANSLIM] A Classic
RE: [CANSLIM] QPv2
RE: [CANSLIM] QPv2
Re: [CANSLIM] QPv2 / Composites
[CANSLIM] AMGN, ESRX, SUNW
Re: [CANSLIM] New technology and my new e-mail address
Re: [CANSLIM] New technology and my new e-mail address
Re: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
RE: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
RE: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
Re [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle to Group Strength
[CANSLIM] Marder
[CANSLIM] Another example of mediots
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:24:12 -0800
From: Harlan <purpose@execpc.com>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Breakouts/ When to buy/ 4 entry points to be aware of
1. The initial breakout of a base
Rule of thumb: Bigger the base bigger the break
Stocks breaking into a new high for the 1st time on strong Vol.
after a consolidation/correction
Recent examples:
YHOO on 9-22-98
ALSI on 10-20-98
CSGS on 10-20-98
ADSC on 10-20-98 although this issue spent no time on the right hand
side
of a cup if you will
This is going to be the starting gate for everthing we do going forward
Note: This is the only place where O'niel's 7% rule applies
The following are issues with different degrees of bases intact that
have yet to break out, some are further along than others
MYL- breaks out at 35ish
NOKA- big cup in place, broke into new high, stalling (this was expected
considering it spent no time on the rt. side of cup) may go sideways a
tad longer, would consider on a follow thru to new highs
WCOM- Big cup, double bottom, could use a little chart time right here,
watch for follow thru over 56.00
BRCM- huge double bottom,could use some chart time right here , watch
for follow thru. Has been trading off of 10 day ave.
RNWK- huge double bottom, need to bust thru 41. Great numbers, great
concept.
COLTY-Huge cup, double bottom, needs chart time, no time spent on right
hand side. Watch for follow thru after a few days
ELNK- huge base, needs time breakout is 46ish.
MRCY- good looking cup developing here, newer issue not over explioted
yet.
RCGI-breaks out of a cup at 30ish, could go at anytime
SEGU- breaks out at 19.5ish, did it yesterday and trying to follow thru
today
TWX- huge cup now in place, watch for follow thru
current prices as of post
MYL-33.625
NOKA-91.125
WCOM-55.375
BRCM-81.375
RNWK-37.375
COLTY-51.50
ELNK- 42.00
MRCY-17.125
RCGI-28.8125
SEGU-20.125
TWX-95.6875
Stay tuned this is just the 1st installment of a few posts
Strictly for informational purposes.
Harlan
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:25:54 -0800
From: Harlan <purpose@execpc.com>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Breakouts/When to buy/Entry points to be aware of #2
Once an issue breaks out of a legitimate base and runs for a few days
typically a few things tend to happen.
A. They breakout, run and never really pullback. These issues tend to
trade off of the 10day ave. for awhile.
In all reality these are your stongest issues. If buying them remember
these are the strongest and the RISKIEST. By buying these issues your
saying your a trader. By buying off of this list understand that short
term they could run out of steam at any moment. Not for the faint at
heart. For simplicity sake use the 10day moving ave. as a trailing stop.
These are the true momentum/movers and shakers. Lets face it theres a
lot of short term emotional money in these stocks and at any hint of
something wrong beit the mkt. or whatever they sell these issues off
faster than you can shake a stick. Thats ok as long as long as they dont
violate the 10day ave. on a closing basis. Also be aware that the longer
they run above the 10day the more risk of breaking it becomes. heck
could happen the same day. Remember you have no control except when to
sell.
The way to stay focused and not get emotional with these issues is to be
a. unattached from the outcome
b. Rigid use of the 10day ave as a trailing stop.
The following is a list of names that have recently gone where noone has
ever gone before that tend to trade off of the 10 day ave. with the
10day mentioned and where the stock currently is.
CSGS- 10 day at 55.25 stock at 57.125
ALSI- 10 day at 44.25 stock at 48.625
CTSH- 10 day at 20.625 stock at 22.625
NCOG- 10 day at 31.50 stock at 32.875
GMSTF-10 day at 52.31 stock at 57.00
BRCM- 10 day at 78.25 stock at 81.375
AOL- 10 day at 122.75 stock at 133.75 big double bottom
YHOO- 10 day at 129.25 stock at a whopping 142.5, could come back to 135
AMZN- 10 day at 120.90 stock at 129.625, big base being built here.
NOKA- 10 day at 88.375 stock at 91.00
TWX- 10 day at 92.50 stock at 95.50
Index's
INX- 10 day at 219.64 index at 233.07
IIX- 10 day at 387.65 index at 405.97 looks like AMZN,AOL,YHOO
GIN- 10 day at 168.31 index at 180.86
and
ADSC- 10day at 20.54 stock at 22.00
POWI- 10day at 15.875 stock at 16.50
and numerous more but not the time to mention.
Stay tuned for the next installment
For informational purposes only
Harlan
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:41:24 -0800 (PST)
From: dbphoenix <dbphoenix@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
<<What I'm interesed in is a program that could simply take a list of
stocks
that makeup a group surrogate, access the QP2 database (an end-of-day
quote
service), form an index for the surrogate (probably equal dollar
weighted),
and output the results in Metastock format (so more analysis can be
done in
Metastock or whatever).>>
In other words, QP2 can't create a group composite?
- --Db
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:59:04 -0800 (PST)
From: dbphoenix <dbphoenix@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
Another way of looking at group strength is to track moving averages.
The following groups are characterized by (1) the 17d SMA crossing
upward through the 50d SMA within the past week (you can use the EMAs
instead, but in a market this volatile, they can give too many
too-preliminary signals) and (2) the 50d EMA beginning to curl upward
(here I use the EMA rather than the SMA because I want a quicker
signal; it's not quite so aggressive since it's acting primarily as
confirmation).
These are relatively conservative signals, more conservative than
buying on a cross-through of shorter-term MAs through the 17d, but
more aggressive than waiting for the 50d to cross upward through the
200d (assuming it's below the 200d to begin with). Given the number
of Ws, Funnels With Handles (a pattern I've been noticing a lot of and
have laid claim to), rectangular bases, and reverse H&S patterns we're
finding, using these indicators of strength can help prevent the
prudent investor from jumping in too quickly.
Some of these are whole groups if they're small enough. Others are
surrogates. In either case, the same indications of strength that one
would look for in an individual stock chart can also be applied to the
group chart. SW-Enterprise, for example, is just coming out of a W,
and one of the stocks within it, PRGS, seems to be working on an
ascending triangle. The fact that the group is showing strength makes
PRGS that much more attractive in terms of pattern, even though the
patterns of the two charts are not the same. What matters is the
indication of strength, not the particulars of how that strength is
being shown.
Aero/Def Equip
COMML SVCS
Business Svcs
Coml Svcs Misc
Schools
COMPUTERS
Integrated Systems
Local Networks
Memory Devices
Mini-Micro
Sftwre-Desktop
Sftwre-Enterprise
Sftwre-Medl
ELECTRONICS
Instr Scientific
Measuring Instruments
Misc Products
Parts Distrib
Semi Equip
ELECTRICAL
Control Instruments
Equipment
LEISURE
Leisure Prods
Toys/Games/Hobbies
MEDIA
Cable TV
MEDICAL
Drugs-Divers
Drugs-Ethical
Nursing Homes
Medl/Dntl Sup
OFFICE
Office Equip
OIL & GAS
Drilling
Field Service
Machinery/Equip
Refining/Mktng
RETAIL
Disc&Variety
Major Disc Chains
Misc Retail
Restaurants
Super/Mini Mkts
Whlsle-Bldg Prods
TELECOM
Cellular
Telecom Equip
Telecom Svcs
TRANSPORTATION
Air Freight
Equip Mfg
Services
Of these, the following are within 15% of a new high:
COMPUTERS
Sftwre-Enterprise: Note GEOC, PRGS
Sftwre-Internet (17d XO 50d a little more than a week ago; 50d just
began to curl): Note ELNK
MEDICAL
Drugs-Divers: Note AHP
Medl/Dntl Sup: Note BDX; Also PDCO, which may be offering a second
chance today.
Hope someone finds this useful.
- --Db
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 14:08:44 -0800
From: Harlan <purpose@execpc.com>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Breakouts/When to buy/4 main entry points to be aware of #3
Once an issue breaks out of a legitimate base and runs for a few days
typically a few things tend to happen.
B.They break out run for a few days then MARKTIME for awhile.
They start to look like theyre forming a flag when viewing a chart.
After they marktime they tend to take off again. Its at this
juncture that you can do one of two things. Wait for the follow thru/
resume its advance to buy, or after its been sitting for a few days
buy it with a
trailing stop of either X% or a particular moving ave. The trick
here is to leave enough room to allow for normal fluctuations without
having
to get shooken out of the stock only to see it take off again
without you.
Note: You always want the strongest issues possible, in reality you dont
want them to pullback. By not pulling back thats actually telling you
something dont you think?
Recent examples of issues that have marked time and have followed thru
are:
GBLX- doing it today
ADSC- initially broke out at 20ish ran, marked time and took off again.
just to name a few.
Issues that are currently marking time so to speak are:
CTSH currently 22.75
POWI currently at 16.50 on huge vol.
FLEX- sitting on top of base currently at 50
MACR-just starting to marktime currently at 23.50
MVSN- sitting on top of base currently at 33.875
MEDI-sitting on top of the base currently at 67.875
NCOG-sitting on top of the base/marking time currently at 33
NSOL- energizer bunny here, needs to stall then start to marktime or
pullback currently at 67.00
Stay tuned for the next installment
strictly for informational purposes
Harlan
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:16:03 -0800
From: "Joe Barger" <barger@aero.org>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
In a word, no. QP2 is primarily an end-of-day quote service that includes a
fairly powerful, fast scan capability and basic charting functions for a
reasonable price. More extensive system testing, charting, etc. are left
(for the moment at least) to other programs. The primary reasons I use QP2
are the price, quality of data, responsiveness of the technical support, and
continuous product improvement.
joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of dbphoenix
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 11:41 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
>
>
>
> <<What I'm interesed in is a program that could simply take a list of
> stocks
> that makeup a group surrogate, access the QP2 database (an end-of-day
> quote
> service), form an index for the surrogate (probably equal dollar
> weighted),
> and output the results in Metastock format (so more analysis can be
> done in
> Metastock or whatever).>>
>
> In other words, QP2 can't create a group composite?
>
> --Db
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________
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>
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:26:59 -0800
From: mikelu <mikelu@foxinternet.net>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
I haven't started to use the group stuff in QP2, so I took a look. It looks
like you can display IRL groups, and load the stocks in a group into their
own list, but you can't make your own composite from a list.
Who's using IRL and what do you say about it? Is it totally TA or can you
screen out stocks fundamentally? Can it restrict the stocks by average
daily volume?
Thanks,
Mike
- -----Original Message-----
From: dbphoenix [SMTP:dbphoenix@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 11:41 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
<<What I'm interesed in is a program that could simply take a list of
stocks
that makeup a group surrogate, access the QP2 database (an end-of-day
quote
service), form an index for the surrogate (probably equal dollar
weighted),
and output the results in Metastock format (so more analysis can be
done in
Metastock or whatever).>>
In other words, QP2 can't create a group composite?
- --Db
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:24:06 -0800
From: "Joe Barger" <barger@aero.org>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
> Given the number
> of Ws, Funnels With Handles (a pattern I've been noticing a lot of and
> have laid claim to)...
Care to spam your FWH insight from Ian's roundtable? Members of the list
that don't follow Ian may find it interesting (at least I did) and have some
comments.
joe
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:35:29 -0800
From: mikelu <mikelu@foxinternet.net>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Breakouts
If you go back to July, the highest close was 32.25. I think you'd want to buy at the most 5-7% above that. 34 is only 5.4% above that.
Mike
- -----Original Message-----
From: David S. Pinhasik [SMTP:dsap@shani.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 4:53 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Breakouts
CBXC - According to the 2 month graph, I would guess the pivot to be 27 or
28 after somewhat of a cup. Adding 10% would give around 30. Do you think 34
is too extended already to get in now?
David
- -----Original Message-----
From: Peter D. Christiansen <peterc@loxinfo.co.th>
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Date: eai uieue 03 ?aaiao 1998 12:20
Subject: [CANSLIM] Breakouts
>The following stocks from my watch list broke out on good volume
>Monday..
>
>CBXC
>CHTT
>PLT
>SWC
>
>I bought CBXC. Of my recent buys, MACR is up 22% in two days. SEIC is
>even. CBXC is slightly in the black.
>
>--
>Peter Christiansen
>Chiang Mai - Thailand
>peterc@loxinfo.co.th
>
>
>
>
>
>-
>
>
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:57:40 -0800
From: "Joe Barger" <barger@aero.org>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: canslim-digest V2 #427
>
> Who's using IRL and what do you say about it? Is it totally TA or can you
> screen out stocks fundamentally? Can it restrict the stocks by average
> daily volume?
>
I use IRL to form my surrogates. It does have the capability to screen on
limited fundamental data and ADV. The problem (for me) is the fundamental
data can get old unless you pay the high price of updating each quarter.
The method I use is to build a list of stocks in a group, scan the list
using whatever criteria suit your fancy (ADV, MKTCAP, Price, etc.) in QP2.
The resulting list can then be further refined by looking at the charts and
deleting broken stocks using whatever criteria you deam appropriate. This
final list is then used to generate a metastock directory of the surviving
stocks. Then I use IRL to build the actual surrogate. IRL also has some
charting and ranking capabilities that may (or may not) be useful to you.
Sounds complicated, but the worst part is simply generating the lists of
stocks in each group.
The IRL group data that QP2 supplies are, of course, not surrogates and are
IRL's opinion of what constitutes a group. I prefer the IBD group
definitions, simply because most CANSLIMers and HGSers use them.
joe
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 21:20:23 +0100
From: Johan Van Houtven <click@ping.be>
Subject: [CANSLIM] QPv2
>In other words, QP2 can't create a group composite?
>
>--Db
You can generate all the composite data with the QPv2 scanning program, but
you can't chart this generated data in the separate QPv2 charting program.
You could use the generated data and make a chart in Excel.
The charting program only reads the stocks and indices it knows, you can't
create your own. In other words the charting part of QPv2 is basic. It has
the following technical indicators:
ADX, PDM, and MDM
CCI - Standard
Chaikin 21 Money Flow Oscillator
Chaikin Money Flow Line
Moving Average Convergence Divergence (MACD) indicator
Moving averages: simple, weighted, and exponential
On Balance Volume - OBV
QRS (Quote Plus Relative Strength Line)
Relative Strength Indicator (RSI)
Rate of Change - ROC
Stochastics indicators
Which is quite reasonable for most peoples charting needs, I assume.
Another thing the charting program lacks is the ability to 'zoom' in and
out and it doesn't allow you to have futures dates on the right hand side
of the chart (in order to project trendlines etc).
Quotes Plus is teaming up with IRL, so the surrogate/composite problem will
be solved that way, I understand. But that doesn't solve the basic
charting. For that you would need MetaStock. Problem is that MetaStock
doesn't read the native QPv2 data format. And Equis will almost certainly
keep it that way. QPv2 has 2 solutions if you want to use MetaStock. 1) Use
the Virtual FileSystem. Alas I hear that this solution is slow. 2) You can
convert QPv2 data to MetaStock format. But this converting process takes time.
Johan
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:13:37 -0800 (PST)
From: dbphoenix <dbphoenix@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
<<Care to spam your FWH insight from Ian's roundtable? Members of the
list
that don't follow Ian may find it interesting (at least I did) and
have some
comments.
joe>>
Ha! I don't know that I'd call it insight. More than brain-coma from
looking at too many charts. But what caused me to begin thinking
about it and watching it more closely was that I had been waiting for
so many retests that never came. I don't remember noticing so many in
1990. Which doesn't mean they weren't there. Just that I wasn't
looking for them and so didn't notice them. But then I wasn't exactly
a charting sophisticate in 1990 (which isn't to say I'm a charting
sophisticate now, either). And I'm too lazy to go look now.
Anyway, here's what I wrote:
<<I've decided that I'm going to create a new chart pattern. When you
see or hear references to it in the future, remember that you heard it
here first.
I'm referring, of course, to the FWH, or Funnel With Handle. LU is a
prime example. As are LLTC and SMTC. The stock moseys along in a base
of some sort, minding its own business, when WHAMMO! it gets knocked
down the stairs. But then it rebounds off a V bottom, makes a pitiful
attempt at a new base of anywhere from a few days to a week or two,
then BLAM! there she goes off again.
I'm seeing more and more of these every day. They're too quick and
angular for cups (and don't fit the c&h volume pattern even if they
weren't) and they don't double-bottom (most have only that one sharp
downturn out of the base). I'm also seeing loads of Ws, and if anybody
ever wondered what a reverse h&s looks like, they're littering the
landscape like cigarette butts. Flat bases? Yeah, right. Cups and
handles and rectangular bases? A few. But not nearly enough. So it's
the FWH for me.
Feel free to refer it whenever you like, but do remember--it's Db's
FWH. Move over, Chaikin.
- --Db :)>>
It may very well be that during highly volatile times, the ordinary
cup often doesn't have time to form. So you get a hybrid between the
V bottom and the cup-and-handle. To my mind it's different enough
from each to become its own pattern. In any case, with the market
giving bullish signals and the groups giving bullish signals, I think
it's not only overly conservative but probably short-sighted to wait
for the kinds of base lengths and retests we've come to expect. Even
O'N has abbreviated the base lengths he looks for.
Food for thought, anyway.
- --Db
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:23:20 -0800
From: mikelu <mikelu@foxinternet.net>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] QPv2
Using QP Virtual only seems to add another second onto the time to load a chart. (Using a Pentium II 266, anyway.)
Mike
- -----Original Message-----
From: Johan Van Houtven [SMTP:click@ping.be]
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] QPv2
>In other words, QP2 can't create a group composite?
>
>--Db
You can generate all the composite data with the QPv2 scanning program, but
you can't chart this generated data in the separate QPv2 charting program.
You could use the generated data and make a chart in Excel.
The charting program only reads the stocks and indices it knows, you can't
create your own. In other words the charting part of QPv2 is basic. It has
the following technical indicators:
ADX, PDM, and MDM
CCI - Standard
Chaikin 21 Money Flow Oscillator
Chaikin Money Flow Line
Moving Average Convergence Divergence (MACD) indicator
Moving averages: simple, weighted, and exponential
On Balance Volume - OBV
QRS (Quote Plus Relative Strength Line)
Relative Strength Indicator (RSI)
Rate of Change - ROC
Stochastics indicators
Which is quite reasonable for most peoples charting needs, I assume.
Another thing the charting program lacks is the ability to 'zoom' in and
out and it doesn't allow you to have futures dates on the right hand side
of the chart (in order to project trendlines etc).
Quotes Plus is teaming up with IRL, so the surrogate/composite problem will
be solved that way, I understand. But that doesn't solve the basic
charting. For that you would need MetaStock. Problem is that MetaStock
doesn't read the native QPv2 data format. And Equis will almost certainly
keep it that way. QPv2 has 2 solutions if you want to use MetaStock. 1) Use
the Virtual FileSystem. Alas I hear that this solution is slow. 2) You can
convert QPv2 data to MetaStock format. But this converting process takes time.
Johan
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:23:05 -0800 (PST)
From: dbphoenix <dbphoenix@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] QPv2
<<Another thing the charting program lacks is the ability to 'zoom' in
and
out and it doesn't allow you to have futures dates on the right hand
side
of the chart (in order to project trendlines etc).
Quotes Plus is teaming up with IRL, so the surrogate/composite problem
will
be solved that way, I understand. But that doesn't solve the basic
charting. For that you would need MetaStock. Problem is that MetaStock
doesn't read the native QPv2 data format. And Equis will almost
certainly
keep it that way. QPv2 has 2 solutions if you want to use MetaStock.
1) Use
the Virtual FileSystem. Alas I hear that this solution is slow. 2) You
can
convert QPv2 data to MetaStock format. But this converting process takes
time.>>
Sounds like if they were to add the first two items on your list and
include the user-defined composite charting capability, they'd have
it. The indicators you listed are certainly enough.
But you don't need Metastock. WOWS can do all this, and the Deluxe
version is only around $140. I don't mean WOWS performs all the IRL
functions, but it does what QP2 does plus the functions you mentioned
that QP2 doesn't. So that's an alternative for anybody who wants to
get into the group work and doesn't or can't use IRL.
- --Db
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:02:20 -0600 (CST)
From: mckeener@ix.netcom.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] A Classic
Db,
Very good, in fact, it's perfect. Thanks
Mary
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:30:47 -0800
From: "Joe Barger" <barger@aero.org>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] QPv2
>
> >In other words, QP2 can't create a group composite?
> >
> >--Db
>
> You can generate all the composite data with the QPv2 scanning
> program, but
> you can't chart this generated data in the separate QPv2 charting program.
> You could use the generated data and make a chart in Excel.
>
Maybe I'm missing something here. How do you create a composite in the
scanning program? I know of no way to work on multiple stocks
simultaneously in QP2 scanning.
joe
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:35:46 -0800
From: "Joe Barger" <barger@aero.org>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] QPv2
>
> Using QP Virtual only seems to add another second onto the time
> to load a chart. (Using a Pentium II 266, anyway.)
>
> Mike
>
Loading a single chart isn't the problem. It's (apparently) the repeated
access to multiple securities that slows down the process of building the
surrogates.
joe
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:44:24 -0500
From: "Barry Marx" <bmarx@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] QPv2 / Composites
I had some success creating a group composite with QPv2 data along with a
shareware program I downloaded named Fund Manager 3.4. There may be other
programs that would do just as well.
Fund Manager is primarily designed to be a portfolio manager, but it allows
you create a graph of the portfolio's performance, and you could create
portfolios containing the stocks for each desired group. It has no TA
indicators for these, however, just a simple chart. Another downside is
that it took a little work to manipulate the output of the QP scan into a
format that was acceptable to the program. Might be more work than most are
willing to do, but the process could probably be automated quite a bit.
Barry
- -----Original Message-----
From: Joe Barger <barger@aero.org>
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] QPv2
>
>
>
>>
>> >In other words, QP2 can't create a group composite?
>> >
>> >--Db
>>
>> You can generate all the composite data with the QPv2 scanning
>> program, but
>> you can't chart this generated data in the separate QPv2 charting
program.
>> You could use the generated data and make a chart in Excel.
>>
>
>Maybe I'm missing something here. How do you create a composite in the
>scanning program? I know of no way to work on multiple stocks
>simultaneously in QP2 scanning.
>
>joe
>
>
>-
>
>
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 19:48:30 -0500
From: "Zoran Mitrovski" <mitrovski@att.net>
Subject: [CANSLIM] AMGN, ESRX, SUNW
AMGN (87 95 A A A) just broke out to a new high off of an ascending triangle
base
and above its resistance at 80. Probably will get in tomorrow after I check its
numbers
better tonight.
Caught ESRX (95 98 A A B) and SUNW (94 96 A A B) when they reached new highs
above their long-term bases (sort of a Darvas-box thing, too) within the last
couple of weeks
or so. Sorry I missed CTL (87 97 A A A) and WAT (96 97 A A B) but CTL appears
to be coming back to me on nicely decreasing volume. I may pick some up below
54-55 if it behaves nicely. How are you full-time-working-folks dealing with
missed
opportunities? Me, badly.
Zoran
mitrovski@att.net
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:03:34 -0500
From: "Frank V. Wolynski" <Wolynski@MindSpring.Com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New technology and my new e-mail address
Exciting stuff Walter.
I must admit, I'm envious! I've been tempted by the Roadrunner service from
Time Warner that's available in my area. Really tempted. Got a teenager and
wife who hog the phone and in my business I would still have to have the
second line however. So I couldn't save with the service.
Assuming you got Trading Expert from AIQ. Did you get the EDS option?
Regards,
Frank Wolynski
At 00:06 11/3/98 -0500, Walter Stock wrote:
>Have just completed a major overhaul of my trading system with a new
>computer,
>new trading software (AIQ), and a new cable-modem.
>
>Yes the modem is very fast, I can now read Db's e-mail before he
>finishes writing it,
>sometimes before he even finishes thinking it (Cisco virtual cable
>modem brain stealth implant technology). Bigcharts load instantly, no
>agonizing waits for molasses-in-winter screen fills.
>
>If cable service is available in your area, I would recommend you take
>in a demo.
>Cost is not that much more than before since I am now able to dump the
>second
>phone line, and use existing cable service. The other cost savings is
>in time spent downloading when I flip through charts.
>
>My new e-mail address is: wstock@cgocable.net
>
>Walter Stock
>Oakville, ON
>Canada
>
>
>
>-
>
>
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:03:34 -0500
From: "Frank V. Wolynski" <Wolynski@MindSpring.Com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New technology and my new e-mail address
Exciting stuff Walter.
I must admit, I'm envious! I've been tempted by the Roadrunner service from
Time Warner that's available in my area. Really tempted. Got a teenager and
wife who hog the phone and in my business I would still have to have the
second line however. So I couldn't save with the service.
Assuming you got Trading Expert from AIQ. Did you get the EDS option?
Regards,
Frank Wolynski
At 00:06 11/3/98 -0500, Walter Stock wrote:
>Have just completed a major overhaul of my trading system with a new
>computer,
>new trading software (AIQ), and a new cable-modem.
>
>Yes the modem is very fast, I can now read Db's e-mail before he
>finishes writing it,
>sometimes before he even finishes thinking it (Cisco virtual cable
>modem brain stealth implant technology). Bigcharts load instantly, no
>agonizing waits for molasses-in-winter screen fills.
>
>If cable service is available in your area, I would recommend you take
>in a demo.
>Cost is not that much more than before since I am now able to dump the
>second
>phone line, and use existing cable service. The other cost savings is
>in time spent downloading when I flip through charts.
>
>My new e-mail address is: wstock@cgocable.net
>
>Walter Stock
>Oakville, ON
>Canada
>
>
>
>-
>
>
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:11:22 -0500
From: "Frank V. Wolynski" <Wolynski@MindSpring.Com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
Great post DB, what's a funnel with handle?
Frank Wolynski
At 11:59 11/3/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Another way of looking at group strength is to track moving averages.
>The following groups are characterized by (1) the 17d SMA crossing
>upward through the 50d SMA within the past week (you can use the EMAs
>instead, but in a market this volatile, they can give too many
>too-preliminary signals) and (2) the 50d EMA beginning to curl upward
>(here I use the EMA rather than the SMA because I want a quicker
>signal; it's not quite so aggressive since it's acting primarily as
>confirmation).
>
>These are relatively conservative signals, more conservative than
>buying on a cross-through of shorter-term MAs through the 17d, but
>more aggressive than waiting for the 50d to cross upward through the
>200d (assuming it's below the 200d to begin with). Given the number
>of Ws, Funnels With Handles (a pattern I've been noticing a lot of and
>have laid claim to), rectangular bases, and reverse H&S patterns we're
>finding, using these indicators of strength can help prevent the
>prudent investor from jumping in too quickly.
>
>Some of these are whole groups if they're small enough. Others are
>surrogates. In either case, the same indications of strength that one
>would look for in an individual stock chart can also be applied to the
>group chart. SW-Enterprise, for example, is just coming out of a W,
>and one of the stocks within it, PRGS, seems to be working on an
>ascending triangle. The fact that the group is showing strength makes
>PRGS that much more attractive in terms of pattern, even though the
>patterns of the two charts are not the same. What matters is the
>indication of strength, not the particulars of how that strength is
>being shown.
>
>Aero/Def Equip
>
>COMML SVCS
>Business Svcs
>Coml Svcs Misc
>Schools
>
>COMPUTERS
>Integrated Systems
>Local Networks
>Memory Devices
>Mini-Micro
>Sftwre-Desktop
>Sftwre-Enterprise
>Sftwre-Medl
>
>ELECTRONICS
>Instr Scientific
>Measuring Instruments
>Misc Products
>Parts Distrib
>Semi Equip
>
>ELECTRICAL
>Control Instruments
>Equipment
>
>LEISURE
>Leisure Prods
>Toys/Games/Hobbies
>
>MEDIA
>Cable TV
>
>MEDICAL
>Drugs-Divers
>Drugs-Ethical
>Nursing Homes
>Medl/Dntl Sup
>
>OFFICE
>Office Equip
>
>OIL & GAS
>Drilling
>Field Service
>Machinery/Equip
>Refining/Mktng
>
>RETAIL
>Disc&Variety
>Major Disc Chains
>Misc Retail
>Restaurants
>Super/Mini Mkts
>Whlsle-Bldg Prods
>
>TELECOM
>Cellular
>Telecom Equip
>Telecom Svcs
>
>TRANSPORTATION
>Air Freight
>Equip Mfg
>Services
>
>Of these, the following are within 15% of a new high:
>
>COMPUTERS
>Sftwre-Enterprise: Note GEOC, PRGS
>Sftwre-Internet (17d XO 50d a little more than a week ago; 50d just
>began to curl): Note ELNK
>
>MEDICAL
>Drugs-Divers: Note AHP
>Medl/Dntl Sup: Note BDX; Also PDCO, which may be offering a second
>chance today.
>
>Hope someone finds this useful.
>
>--Db
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
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>
>
>-
>
>
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:16:18 -0500
From: "Frank V. Wolynski" <Wolynski@MindSpring.Com>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
Should have read all the posts prior to asking you to explain what a FWH was.
Good explanation, I thought so from your description.
Thanks,
Frank Wolynski
At 13:13 11/3/98 -0800, dbphoenix wrote:
>
>
><<Care to spam your FWH insight from Ian's roundtable? Members of the
>list
>that don't follow Ian may find it interesting (at least I did) and
>have some
>comments.
>
>joe>>
>
>Ha! I don't know that I'd call it insight. More than brain-coma from
>looking at too many charts. But what caused me to begin thinking
>about it and watching it more closely was that I had been waiting for
>so many retests that never came. I don't remember noticing so many in
>1990. Which doesn't mean they weren't there. Just that I wasn't
>looking for them and so didn't notice them. But then I wasn't exactly
>a charting sophisticate in 1990 (which isn't to say I'm a charting
>sophisticate now, either). And I'm too lazy to go look now.
>
>Anyway, here's what I wrote:
>
><<I've decided that I'm going to create a new chart pattern. When you
>see or hear references to it in the future, remember that you heard it
>here first.
>
>I'm referring, of course, to the FWH, or Funnel With Handle. LU is a
>prime example. As are LLTC and SMTC. The stock moseys along in a base
>of some sort, minding its own business, when WHAMMO! it gets knocked
>down the stairs. But then it rebounds off a V bottom, makes a pitiful
>attempt at a new base of anywhere from a few days to a week or two,
>then BLAM! there she goes off again.
>
>I'm seeing more and more of these every day. They're too quick and
>angular for cups (and don't fit the c&h volume pattern even if they
>weren't) and they don't double-bottom (most have only that one sharp
>downturn out of the base). I'm also seeing loads of Ws, and if anybody
>ever wondered what a reverse h&s looks like, they're littering the
>landscape like cigarette butts. Flat bases? Yeah, right. Cups and
>handles and rectangular bases? A few. But not nearly enough. So it's
>the FWH for me.
>
>Feel free to refer it whenever you like, but do remember--it's Db's
>FWH. Move over, Chaikin.
>
>--Db :)>>
>
>It may very well be that during highly volatile times, the ordinary
>cup often doesn't have time to form. So you get a hybrid between the
>V bottom and the cup-and-handle. To my mind it's different enough
>from each to become its own pattern. In any case, with the market
>giving bullish signals and the groups giving bullish signals, I think
>it's not only overly conservative but probably short-sighted to wait
>for the kinds of base lengths and retests we've come to expect. Even
>O'N has abbreviated the base lengths he looks for.
>
>Food for thought, anyway.
>
>--Db
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>-
>
>
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:34:57 -0800 (PST)
From: dbphoenix <dbphoenix@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle on Group Strength
<<Should have read all the posts prior to asking you to explain what a
FWH
was. Good explanation, I thought so from your description.>>
I wouldn't call it an explanation, exactly. I don't know why it's
occurring so much. I assume it's a reflection of the power of this
bull. And it may never occur again. But I do believe that waiting
around for a lot of retests may not be the best way to play here.
- --Db
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:36:25 -0800 (PST)
From: dbphoenix <dbphoenix@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re [CANSLIM] An Alternate Angle to Group Strength
<<Should have read all the posts prior to asking you to explain what a
FWH
was. Good explanation, I thought so from your description.>>
I wouldn't call it an explanation, exactly. I don't know why it's
occurring so much. I assume it's a reflection of the power of this
bull. And it may never occur again. But I do believe that waiting
around for a lot of retests may not be the best way to play here.
- --Db
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:52:01 -0800 (PST)
From: dbphoenix <dbphoenix@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Marder
Marder has a new article for us:
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/current/marder.htx?source=htx/http2_mw
- --Db
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:14:46 -0800
From: Tim Fisher <tim@orerockon.com>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Another example of mediots
The before-extraordinary items EPS was $0.30 vs. $0.27 SQLY. It fell today
and probably will take another quarter to recover.
* RENTERS CHOICE INC reported 3Q EPS of $0.13 vs $0.27 in the
prior year period, on revenues of $265.9 mln vs $83.9 mln.
Analysts' mean estimates were $0.30, according to First Call.
These results include pretax, non-recurring acquisition related
expenses of $2.5 mln included in General and Administrative
expenses relating to the company's decision to establish
Rent-A-Center as its sole nationwide brandname and $5 mln of
financing costs included in interest expense. (Reuters 08:13 AM ET
11/03/98) For the full text story, see
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2556913170-a24
Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists
Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site
PFB Information
tim@OreRockOn.com
WWW http://OreRockOn.com
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