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From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3062 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Friday, November 29 2002 Volume 02 : Number 3062 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] Pivot calculator - Free Stuff Re: [CANSLIM] ARTI - fishtails Re: [CANSLIM] M RE: [CANSLIM] Pivot calculator - Free Stuff Re: [CANSLIM] M Re: [CANSLIM] M [CANSLIM] Financial Turkeys Re: [CANSLIM] M RE: [CANSLIM] Volume and CWH (was M) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:21:51 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Pivot calculator - Free Stuff This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01FD_01C29724.2ACD2720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gene, I looked at it, and it only uses for input high/low/close = (presumably for the day, altho guess you could do it using weekly #). = But since it is not using / looking at a chart, I see no use for it = other than maybe for a day trader. - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Pivot calculator - Free Stuff http://www.stelaronline.com/resource/pivot.htm Haven't checked this out but I 'heard' it was 'on the money'. Happy Thanksgiving, Gene - ------=_NextPart_000_01FD_01C29724.2ACD2720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Gene, I looked at it, and it only uses for input = high/low/close (presumably for the day, altho guess you could do it = using weekly=20 #). But since it is not using / looking at a chart, I see no use for it = other=20 than maybe for a day trader.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black">From: <A=20 title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene Ricci</A> = </DIV> <DIV>To: <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:33 PM</DIV> <DIV>Subject: [CANSLIM] Pivot calculator - Free Stuff</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><TT><A=20 href=3D"http://www.stelaronline.com/resource/pivot.htm">http://www.stelar= online.com/resource/pivot.htm</A> Haven't=20 checked this out but I 'heard' it was 'on the = money'.</TT></DIV> <DIV><TT> Happy Thanksgiving,</TT></DIV> <DIV><TT>Gene </DIV></TT></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_01FD_01C29724.2ACD2720-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:38:36 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ARTI - fishtails This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0213_01C29726.81D64590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I see is a tail down on Tuesday, but closed at the day's high on = Monday and Wednesday. Volume predictably was down on all 3 days. But in = any case, it is very extended, definitely not a buy in my book, but = would hold if I owned it. - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Dempsey=20 To: Canslim=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] ARTI - fishtails Katherine, you were the first that I can recall that commented on = fishtails. =20 Would you please comment on ARTI. Any other comments are welcome also. =20 Chris - ------=_NextPart_000_0213_01C29726.81D64590 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3DWord.Document name=3DProgId> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <META content=3D"Microsoft Word 9" name=3DOriginator><LINK=20 href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C29609.4EB23890" rel=3DFile-List> <STYLE>@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in = 1.25in; mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; = mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } P.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle15 { COLOR: black; mso-style-type: personal-compose; mso-ansi-font-size: = 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; = mso-bidi-font-family: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=3DEN-US style=3D"tab-interval: .5in" bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>What I see is a tail down on Tuesday, but closed = at the=20 day's high on Monday and Wednesday. Volume predictably was down on all 3 = days.=20 But in any case, it is very extended, definitely not a buy in my book, = but would=20 hold if I owned it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black">From: <A=20 title=3Dcdempsey@houston.oilfield.slb.com=20 href=3D"mailto:cdempsey@houston.oilfield.slb.com">Chris Dempsey</A> = </DIV> <DIV>To: <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">Canslim</A> </DIV> <DIV>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:37 PM</DIV> <DIV>Subject: [CANSLIM] ARTI - fishtails</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=3DSection1> <SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt">Katherine,=20 you were the first that I can recall that commented on=20 fishtails.<o:p></o:p> <SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt"><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> <SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt">Would=20 you please comment on ARTI. Any other comments are welcome=20 also.<o:p></o:p> <SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt"><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> <SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt">Chris<o:p></o:p></DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0213_01C29726.81D64590-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:00:33 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_036A_01C29731.F498EE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Andy, I took a look at them, but don't think they would be of = help to me as I don't see the stocks I already own or favor. As long as = my methodology continues to work, and it's working fabulously this year = despite a lack of time, I don't intend to change anything I do now. = Putting my entire margin account, and a sizable piece of my VR Fund, = into a single sector is not something I did lightly, and am glad it is = working out so well and so quickly, considering I made the move with an = 18 month horizon. Simply put, industry strength, group RS, and other = similar factors were not even considered when I did this. - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: AJAskey@aol.com=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Tom, Yeah, I noticed that a week or so ago. I've been fully invested since = the recent bottom in ETFs myself. I got shaken out last week and am = trying to find something that is not extended to back get into. I got = some PECS today and am watching a few more. I think it is the right = move but I don't know any retail traders who expect this to be more than = a quick trade. The internals look to me like real buying at this level = but no one will believe me :) I see you look for stocks in the cup to buy. You may find these data = sets that I compile useful: Industries, Companies within Industries, = and MoneyFlow. These files provide industry strength, the companies = within the industries ranked by price strength, and my version on when = the money is flowing. There is a description file at the site or I will = explain anything that is not obvious. Andy In a message dated 11/25/2002 7:36:03 AM Central Standard Time, = stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: Andy, some of us are voting with real money. And I would have to rate = myself bullish (don't know about the go-go, tho) as I am not only fully = invested but on margin, and looking to buy one more stock which will = take me to max margin. - ------=_NextPart_000_036A_01C29731.F498EE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Thanks, Andy, I took a look at them, but don't = think they=20 would be of help to me as I don't see the stocks I already own or favor. = As long=20 as my methodology continues to work, and it's working fabulously this = year=20 despite a lack of time, I don't intend to change anything I do now. = Putting my=20 entire margin account, and a sizable piece of my VR Fund, into a single = sector=20 is not something I did lightly, and am glad it is working out so well = and so=20 quickly, considering I made the move with an 18 month horizon. Simply = put,=20 industry strength, group RS, and other similar factors were not even = considered=20 when I did this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black">From: <A=20 title=3DAJAskey@aol.com = href=3D"mailto:AJAskey@aol.com">AJAskey@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV>To: <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV>Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:57 PM</DIV> <DIV>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Tom, Yeah, I=20 noticed that a week or so ago. I've been fully invested since the = recent=20 bottom in ETFs myself. I got shaken out last week and am trying to = find=20 something that is not extended to back get into. I got some PECS = today and=20 am watching a few more. I think it is the right move but I don't = know any=20 retail traders who expect this to be more than a quick trade. The=20 internals look to me like real buying at this level but no one will = believe me=20 :) I see you look for stocks in the cup to buy. You may = find these=20 data sets that I compile useful: <A=20 href=3D"http://groups.msn.com/InvestmentDataAnalysis/Documents/industry.x= ls">Industries</A>,=20 <A=20 href=3D"http://groups.msn.com/InvestmentDataAnalysis/Documents/ind_cmp.xl= s">Companies=20 within Industries</A>, and <A=20 href=3D"http://groups.msn.com/InvestmentDataAnalysis/Documents/MoneyFlow.= xls">MoneyFlow</A>. =20 These files provide industry strength, the companies within the = industries=20 ranked by price strength, and my version on when the money is = flowing. =20 There is a description file at the site or I will explain anything that = is not=20 obvious. Andy In a message dated 11/25/2002 7:36:03 AM = Central=20 Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">Andy, some of us are voting with real money. And I would = have to=20 rate myself bullish (don't know about the go-go, tho) as I am not only = fully=20 invested but on margin, and looking to buy one more stock which will = take me=20 to max margin.</BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_036A_01C29731.F498EE10-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:10:46 -0700 From: "David Taggart" <dctag@mavericktrading.com> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Pivot calculator - Free Stuff This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C2972B.00B1B7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The pivots this calculator figures out are commonly used by floor traders and the like. Not CANSLIM in the least but if anyone does have more interest in pivot points I just read a good book The Logical Trader by Mark Fisher mainly for the day trader as well. David Taggart - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:22 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Pivot calculator - Free Stuff Gene, I looked at it, and it only uses for input high/low/close (presumably for the day, altho guess you could do it using weekly #). But since it is not using / looking at a chart, I see no use for it other than maybe for a day trader. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci <mailto:genr@swbell.net> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Pivot calculator - Free Stuff http://www.stelaronline.com/resource/pivot.htm Haven't checked this out but I 'heard' it was 'on the money'. Happy Thanksgiving, Gene - ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C2972B.00B1B7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> <style>  </style> </head> <body bgcolor=3Dwhite lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue> <div class=3DSection1> The pivots this calculator figures = out are commonly used by floor traders and the like. Not CANSLIM in the = least but if anyone does have more interest in pivot points I just read a good book The = Logical Trader by Mark Fisher mainly for the day trader as = well. David Taggart -----Original = Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, November = 28, 2002 7:22 PM To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Pivot calculator - Free Stuff <div> Gene, I looked at it, and = it only uses for input high/low/close (presumably for the day, altho guess you = could do it using weekly #). But since it is not using / looking at a chart, I = see no use for it other than maybe for a day trader. </div> <div> </div> <div> ----- Original Message = - ----- <div style=3D'font-color:black'> From:</span= > <a href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net" title=3D"genr@swbell.net">Gene Ricci</a> = </div> <div> To:<= /font> <a href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com" = title=3D"canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a> </div> <div> Sent:</span= > Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:33 PM </div> <div> Subject:</s= pan> [CANSLIM] Pivot calculator - Free Stuff </div> </div> <div> </div> <div> <tt><a href=3D"http://www.stelaronline.com/resource/pivot.htm">http://www.stelar= online.com/resource/pivot.htm</a></tt> Haven't checked this out but I 'heard' it was 'on the = money'. </div> <div> Happy Thanksgiving, </div> <div> Gene </div> </div> </body> </html> - ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C2972B.00B1B7B0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:00:32 EST From: AJAskey@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M - --part1_12f.1c51c6ba.2b18bef0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom, Good luck. Sounds like you are on to something. My data is geared towards CANSLIM but works well with industry/sector ETFs and finding shorts. I only include stocks over $5 so it will not help some methodologies. Andy In a message dated 11/28/2002 10:02:52 PM Central Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: > Thanks, Andy, I took a look at them, but don't think they would be of help > to me as I don't see the stocks I already own or favor. As long as my > methodology continues to work, and it's working fabulously this year > despite a lack of time, I don't intend to change anything I do now. Putting > my entire margin account, and a sizable piece of my VR Fund, into a single > sector is not something I did lightly, and am glad it is working out so > well and so quickly, considering I made the move with an 18 month horizon. > Simply put, industry strength, group RS, and other similar factors were not > even considered when I did this. > - --part1_12f.1c51c6ba.2b18bef0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>Tom, Good luck. Sounds like you are on to something. My data is geared towards CANSLIM but works well with industry/sector ETFs and finding shorts. I only include stocks over $5 so it will not help some methodologies. Andy In a message dated 11/28/2002 10:02:52 PM Central Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Thanks, Andy, I took a look at them, but don't think they would be of help to me as I don't see the stocks I already own or favor. As long as my methodology continues to work, and it's working fabulously this year despite a lack of time, I don't intend to change anything I do now. Putting my entire margin account, and a sizable piece of my VR Fund, into a single sector is not something I did lightly, and am glad it is working out so well and so quickly, considering I made the move with an 18 month horizon. Simply put, industry strength, group RS, and other similar factors were not even considered when I did this. </BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> - --part1_12f.1c51c6ba.2b18bef0_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:16:35 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C2977F.A1E3D920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy, My best performers right now are very liquid small caps in the mid teens = to low 20s price range. I have yet to find a short where I have = confidence in doubling my money, and the indexes appear to be clearing = up the mystery of the double bottom / head & shoulders / c&h patterns in = favor of the double bottom, so shorting is not even a consideration for = me right now. - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: AJAskey@aol.com=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Tom, Good luck. Sounds like you are on to something. My data is geared = towards CANSLIM but works well with industry/sector ETFs and finding = shorts. I only include stocks over $5 so it will not help some = methodologies. Andy In a message dated 11/28/2002 10:02:52 PM Central Standard Time, = stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: Thanks, Andy, I took a look at them, but don't think they would be of = help to me as I don't see the stocks I already own or favor. As long as = my methodology continues to work, and it's working fabulously this year = despite a lack of time, I don't intend to change anything I do now. = Putting my entire margin account, and a sizable piece of my VR Fund, = into a single sector is not something I did lightly, and am glad it is = working out so well and so quickly, considering I made the move with an = 18 month horizon. Simply put, industry strength, group RS, and other = similar factors were not even considered when I did this. - ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C2977F.A1E3D920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hi Andy,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My best performers right now are very liquid = small caps in=20 the mid teens to low 20s price range. I have yet to find a short = where I=20 have confidence in doubling my money, and the indexes appear to be = clearing up=20 the mystery of the double bottom / head & shoulders / c&h = patterns in=20 favor of the double bottom, so shorting is not even a consideration for = me right=20 now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black">From: <A=20 title=3DAJAskey@aol.com = href=3D"mailto:AJAskey@aol.com">AJAskey@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV>To: <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:00 AM</DIV> <DIV>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Tom, Good=20 luck. Sounds like you are on to something. My data is geared = towards=20 CANSLIM but works well with industry/sector ETFs and finding = shorts. I=20 only include stocks over $5 so it will not help some=20 methodologies. Andy In a message dated 11/28/2002 10:02:52 = PM=20 Central Standard Time, <A=20 href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A>=20 writes: <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 TYPE=3D"CITE">Thanks, Andy, I took a look at them, but don't think they = would be=20 of help to me as I don't see the stocks I already own or favor. As = long as my=20 methodology continues to work, and it's working fabulously this year = despite a=20 lack of time, I don't intend to change anything I do now. Putting my = entire=20 margin account, and a sizable piece of my VR Fund, into a single = sector is not=20 something I did lightly, and am glad it is working out so well and so = quickly,=20 considering I made the move with an 18 month horizon. Simply put, = industry=20 strength, group RS, and other similar factors were not even considered = when I=20 did this. </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C2977F.A1E3D920-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:00:54 -0700 From: "Patrick Wahl" <pjwahl@attbi.com> Subject: [CANSLIM] Financial Turkeys A little bit off topic, but Jim Jubak has some of the financial turkeys from wall street. http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P34477.asp - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:32:25 EST From: AJAskey@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M - --part1_165.1756b9a7.2b18f099_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Definately agree shorting isn't the best play now. In a message dated 11/29/2002 7:18:51 AM Central Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: > I have yet to find a short where I have confidence in doubling my money, and > the indexes appear to be clearing up the mystery of the double bottom / > head & shoulders / c&h patterns in favor of the double bottom, so shorting > is not even a consideration for me right now. - --part1_165.1756b9a7.2b18f099_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>Definately agree shorting isn't the best play now. In a message dated 11/29/2002 7:18:51 AM Central Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have yet to find a short where I have confidence in doubling my money, and the indexes appear to be clearing up the mystery of the double bottom / head & shoulders / c&h patterns in favor of the double bottom, so shorting is not even a consideration for me right now.</BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> - --part1_165.1756b9a7.2b18f099_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:39:55 -0600 From: "Curt Corley" <cjcorley@hiwaay.net> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Volume and CWH (was M) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2979C.0E12F150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill, =20 You can download the free trial version and run it with the 2002 data. The trailing twelve month performance (from 11/28/2001 through 11/29/2002) is -15.9 %. The buy-and-hold performance for that same time frame is -23.1 %. =20 Curt =20 =20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill King Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:53 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Volume and CWH (was M) =20 Hi Katherine, =20 Once again, thanks for the useful info/links. I was impressed with the Market-tester. It looks like a useful tool. He didn=92t show any = examples of 2002. Did he predict the FTD and recommend reentering the market? Does his software need a real-time data feed? =20 Bill King =20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:46 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Volume and CWH (was M) =20 Hi Curt, =20 I'm of a mind that simple is better when it comes to reading charts, and as with most things it just takes practice to become proficient, just as you suggested. I still "practice" every day. One of the things I like so much about the CANSLIM list is that people will often bring up stocks that I personally have glossed over, but I use their mention of a stock to practice reading the chart more closely. As chart reading is such a visual process, I think anything that helps interpret the price/volume action is helpful. I'm fairly purist, and stick to the simplest of indicators, but I find that the pattern of the Up/Down volume helps summarize the recent action. As this is a simple ratio of volume on up days to volume on down days over the last 50 days, it's not a perfect indicator, but it helps "see" the P/V action a little differently. =20 I've used the IWM ETF as a proxy for the Russell 2000 so that you can see what I mean. See it at: http://Wallstreet-LLC.com/canslim/IWM112202.JPG =20 Another tool I use extensively and that I like very much is Bill Lee's Excel spreadsheet. It's designed to help you read the market, but can also be used to "read" any individual stock. Each accumulation and distribution day is marked with a color and is *very* easy to see patterns of accumulation and distribution (yellow/orange/red for distribution, green for accumulation). See the last year of the NASDAQ and you can see what I mean....plenty of red most of the year, but plenty of green while the Naz built the right side of the cup. See a sample at: http://Wallstreet-LLC.com/canslim/NASDAQ112202.JPG. Bill's product is a moderately priced shareware program and I have no business affiliation with him....just a happy customer. Read more about his tool at http://www.market-tester.com =20 Katherine =20 =20 - ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 From: Curt Corley <mailto:cjcorley@hiwaay.net> =20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:30 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Volume and CWH (was M) =20 Katherine, =20 Thanks for your input. Your help is invaluable. I looked at the indices in TC2000 with MoneyStream and Time Segmented Volume. I looked at the NASDAQ, S&P-500, and Russell 2000. Here=92s what I found on all = 3 charts. =20 CMS: MoneyStream stayed above it=92s linear regression line on the left side = of the cup, on the right side of the cup, and during the BO. However, it stayed below the linear regression line along the bottom of the cup and during the handle formation. =20 TSV: TSV stayed mainly above the center line during the left-side of the cup. Toward the bottom of the cup, TSV plunged way below the zero line. On the right side of the cup, TSV shot high above the center line again. During the handle formation and the BO, TSV dipped down and back up again. =20 I guess this is supposed to tell me that volume supported the price action because there were no divergences. Since you mentioned Accumulation/Distribution, I probably should have looked at On Balance Volume and/or Balance of Power. However, I haven=92t had much success with those indicators in the past. =20 I=92m trying to become more proficient at chart reading, and you=92re certainly helping a great deal along with other members of this list. Once again, thank you very much. =20 Cheers, Curt =20 =20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:58 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M =20 Hi Curt, =20 I don't think when you're looking at patterns on major indexes such as the NASDAQ that the pattern of volume would be used in the same way that it is on an individual stock. My take on it is simply that an index represents a huge number of individual stocks, and while the general price pattern will indicate a reversal of a trend or a general shift in psychology and pattern of buying and selling in the market, the volume doesn't really tell you the same story as it does in an individual stock. In other words, I think that it's more important to look for a pattern of accumulation outpacing distribution (up days on higher volume than the previous day vs. down days on higher volume), than it is to look for the "bathtub" volume pattern that one would use on an individual stock. =20 Katherine - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Curt Corley <mailto:cjcorley@hiwaay.net> =20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M =20 I=92m glad you mentioned the General Markets & Sectors commentary in today=92s IBD. I looked at the charts, and they did not appear to have rising volume on the sides of the cups. As a matter of fact, the heaviest volume days were at the very bottom of the cup. I don=92t = think the indices have shown great cwh characteristics. However, I=92m a = novice at this stuff, so I would appreciate any criticism or validation of my view. =20 =20 Curt =20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:11 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M =20 Speaking of handles- what are peoples' thoughts on WON's comment from this morning about the NASDAQ forming a cup and handle? Volume in the handle seems a bit "imperfect" but I don't want to be the one to rain on the parade! =20 _____ =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2979C.0E12F150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2979C.076B2570"> <link rel=3DEdit-Time-Data href=3D"cid:editdata.mso@01C2979C.076B2570"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = name=3D"time"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"date"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=3Dwhite lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> Bill,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> You can download the free trial = version and run it with the 2002 data.=A0 = The trailing twelve month performance (from <st1:date Month=3D"11" = Day=3D"28" Year=3D"2001">11/28/2001</st1:date> through <st1:date Month=3D"11" Day=3D"29" = Year=3D"2002">11/29/2002</st1:date>) is - -15.9 %.=A0 The buy-and-hold = performance for that same time frame is -23.1 %.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Curt =A0=A0<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original = Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill King Sent: = <st1:date Month=3D"11" Day=3D"26" Year=3D"2002">Tuesday, November 26, = 2002</st1:date> <st1:time Hour=3D"12" Minute=3D"53">12:53 PM</st1:time> To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Volume and CWH (was M) <o:p> </o:p> Hi Katherine,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Once again, thanks for the useful info/links. I was = impressed=A0 with the Market-tester. It looks = like a useful tool. He didn’t show any examples of 2002. Did he predict = the FTD and recommend reentering the market? Does his software need a real-time = data feed?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Bill King<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: = <st1:date Month=3D"11" Day=3D"26" Year=3D"2002">Tuesday, = November 26, 2002</st1:date> = <st1:time Hour=3D"9" Minute=3D"46">9:46 = AM</st1:time> To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Volume and CWH (was M)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Hi = Curt,<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p></p= > I'm of a mind that simple is better when it comes to reading charts, and as with most = things it just takes practice to become proficient, just as you suggested. I = still "practice" every day. One of the things I like so much about = the CANSLIM list is that people will often bring up stocks that I personally = have glossed over, but I use their mention of a stock to practice reading the = chart more closely. As chart reading is such a visual process, I think = anything that helps interpret the price/volume action is helpful. I'm fairly purist, = and stick to the simplest of indicators, but I find that the pattern of the = Up/Down volume helps summarize the recent action. As this is a simple ratio of = volume on up days to volume on down days over the last 50 days, it's not a = perfect indicator, but it helps "see" the P/V action a little = differently.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p></p= > I've used the IWM ETF as a proxy for the Russell 2000 so that you can see what I mean. = See it at:<o:p></o:p> <a href=3D"http://Wallstreet-LLC.com/canslim/IWM112202.JPG">http://Wallstree= t-LLC.com/canslim/IWM112202.JPG</a><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p></p= > Another tool I use extensively and that I like very much is Bill Lee's Excel = spreadsheet. It's designed to help you read the market, but can also be used to "read" any individual stock. Each accumulation and = distribution day is marked with a color and is *very* easy to see patterns of = accumulation and distribution (yellow/orange/red for distribution, green for = accumulation). See the last year of the NASDAQ and you can see what I mean....plenty of red = most of the year, but plenty of green while the Naz built the right side of = the cup. See a sample at:<o:p></o:p> <a href=3D"http://Wallstreet-LLC.com/canslim/NASDAQ112202.JPG">http://Wallst= reet-LLC.com/canslim/NASDAQ112202.JPG</a>. Bill's product is a moderately priced shareware program and I have no = business affiliation with him....just a happy customer. Read more about his tool = at <a href=3D"http://www.market-tester.com">http://www.market-tester.com</a></s= pan><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p></p= > Katherine<o:p></o:p>= <o:p></o:p></p= > <o:p></o:p></p= > ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> <div style=3D'font-color:black'> <o:p> </o:p></fo= nt> From: <a href=3D"mailto:cjcorley@hiwaay.net" title=3D"cjcorley@hiwaay.net">Curt = Corley</a> <o:p></o:p></p= > </div> To: <a href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com" = title=3D"canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a> <o:p></o:p> Sent: = <st1:date Month=3D"11" Day=3D"22" Year=3D"2002">Friday, = November 22, 2002</st1:date> = <st1:time Hour=3D"20" Minute=3D"30">8:30 = PM</st1:time><o:p></o:p></p= > Subject: [CANSLIM] Volume and CWH (was M)<o:p></o:p></p= > <o:p> </o:p> Katherine,<o:p></= o:p> <o:p></o:p>= Thanks for your input.=A0 Your help is invaluable.=A0 I looked at the = indices in TC2000 with MoneyStream and Time Segmented Volume. =A0I looked at the NASDAQ, = S&P-500, and Russell 2000.=A0 Here’s = what I found on all 3 charts.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>= CMS:<o:p></o:p></= span> MoneyStream stayed above it’s linear regression line on the left side of the = cup, on the right side of the cup, and during the BO.=A0 However, it stayed below the linear regression line along the = bottom of the cup and during the handle formation.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>= TSV:<o:p></o:p></= span> TSV stayed mainly above the center line during the left-side of the = cup.=A0 Toward the bottom of the cup, TSV = plunged way below the zero line.=A0 On the = right side of the cup, TSV shot high above the center line again.=A0 During the handle formation and = the BO, TSV dipped down and back up again.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>= I guess this is supposed to tell me that volume supported the price action = because there were no divergences.=A0 = Since you mentioned Accumulation/Distribution, I probably should have looked at On Balance Volume and/or Balance of Power.=A0 However, I haven’t had much success with those indicators = in the past.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>= I’m trying to become more proficient at chart reading, and you’re = certainly helping a great deal along with other members of this list.=A0 Once again, thank you very = much.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>= Cheers,<o:p></o:p= > Curt<o:p></o:p></= span> <o:p></o:p>= <o:p></o:p>= -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: = <st1:date Month=3D"11" Day=3D"21" Year=3D"2002">Thursday, = November 21, 2002</st1:date> = <st1:time Hour=3D"22" Minute=3D"58">10:58 = PM</st1:time> To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = M<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p></p= > Hi = Curt,<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p></p= > I = don't think when you're looking at patterns on major indexes such as the NASDAQ that = the pattern of volume would be used in the same way that it is on an = individual stock. My take on it is simply that an index represents a huge number of individual stocks, and while the general price pattern will indicate a = reversal of a trend or a general shift in psychology and pattern of buying and = selling in the market, the volume doesn't really tell you the same story as it = does in an individual stock. In other words, I think that it's more important to = look for a pattern of accumulation outpacing distribution (up days on higher = volume than the previous day vs. down days on higher volume), than it is to = look for the "bathtub" volume pattern that one would use on an = individual stock.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p></p= > Katherine<o:p></o:p>= <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:111.75pt;margin-right:0in'> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></p= > </div> <div style=3D'font-color:black'> From: <a href=3D"mailto:cjcorley@hiwaay.net" title=3D"cjcorley@hiwaay.net">Curt = Corley</a> <o:p></o:p></p= > </div> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:111.75pt;margin-right:0in'> To: <a href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com" = title=3D"canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a> <o:p></o:p> Sent: = <st1:date Month=3D"11" Day=3D"21" Year=3D"2002">Thursday, = November 21, 2002</st1:date> = <st1:time Hour=3D"18" Minute=3D"27">6:27 = PM</st1:time><o:p></o:p></p= > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p></p= > I’m glad you mentioned the General Markets & Sectors commentary in today’s IBD.=A0 I looked = at the charts, and they did not appear to have rising volume on the sides of = the cups.=A0 As a matter of fact, = the heaviest volume days were at the very bottom of the cup.=A0 I don’t think the indices have shown great cwh characteristics.=A0 However, = I’m a novice at this stuff, so I would appreciate any criticism or validation = of my view.=A0 = <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>= Curt<o:p></o:p></= span> <o:p></o:p>= </div> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:147.75pt;margin-right:0in'> -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Short Sent: = <st1:date Month=3D"11" Day=3D"21" Year=3D"2002">Thursday, = November 21, 2002</st1:date> = <st1:time Hour=3D"15" Minute=3D"11">3:11 = PM</st1:time> To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = M<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p></p= > Speaking of handles- what are peoples' thoughts on WON's comment from this = morning about the NASDAQ forming a cup and handle? Volume in the handle seems a bit "imperfect" but I don't want to be the one to rain on the = parade!<o:p></o:p> </div> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:183.75pt;margin-right:0in'> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt'> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:75.75pt'> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter = style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html> - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2979C.0E12F150-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". 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