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  11. canslim-digest      Wednesday, January 30 2002      Volume 02 : Number 2097
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  13.  
  14.  
  15. In this issue:
  16.  
  17.        [CANSLIM] Andersen Revisited
  18.        Re: [CANSLIM] EPS Rating vs Actual EPS Numbers
  19.        Re: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture
  20.        Re: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news?
  21.        Re: [CANSLIM] Market
  22.        Re: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news?
  23.        Re: [CANSLIM] Market
  24.        [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks
  25.  
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  27.  
  28. Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:23:29 -0800 (PST)
  29. From: Dave Cameron <dfcameron@yahoo.com>
  30. Subject: [CANSLIM] Andersen Revisited
  31.  
  32. - --- Tom Worley <stkguru@netside.net> wrote:
  33. > But it is the auditor's responsibility to
  34. > object to improper or inaccurate accounting, and resist efforts to
  35. > finds ways to accommodate same. It is the auditor's responsibility
  36. > to ensure that the final 10K accurately and completely reports the
  37. > state of the company's financial condition. I don't think this was
  38. > done by Andersen with Enron, any more than it was done for Global
  39. > Crossing, Sunbeam or Wackenhut. I have seen auditors resign an
  40. > account when they and management could not agree on the final
  41. > report. That at least gives investors, and some analysts, a signal
  42. > to dig deeper.
  43. >
  44.  
  45. This is exactly my point and problem.   I posted earlier that I blame
  46. Andersen even more than Enron.   Neither are blameless; but many
  47. companies (not just Enron) would want to fudge some numbers to make
  48. things look more attractive to investors.   However, the purpose of
  49. the auditor is to nix that.   We, as small investors, rely on the
  50. fact that an "unbiased" accounting firm has signed off on the
  51. financials.  The fact that Andersen outright ignores this
  52. responsibility is a big red flag for me on ANY company that uses
  53. Andersen as their auditor.   I do NOT want to risk my money on a
  54. company where the numbers I use to evaluate could be completely
  55. wrong.
  56.  
  57.  
  58.  
  59.  
  60. =====
  61. Dave Cameron
  62. dfcameron@yahoo.com
  63.  
  64. __________________________________________________
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  74. ------------------------------
  75.  
  76. Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:37:35 EST
  77. From: Spencer48@aol.com
  78. Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPS Rating vs Actual EPS Numbers
  79.  
  80. Katherine:
  81.  
  82.      Tomorrow's "Ask WON" in IBD.com talks about pro forma accounting.  WON 
  83. defines and explains pro forma accounting from a CANSLIM perspective (ie. as 
  84. to what he views as important in what pro forma leaves out and what it 
  85. includes.)
  86.  
  87. "Ask Bill O'Neil Archives, Tuesday, January 29, 2002-- 
  88.  
  89. 'Could you define and discuss a term much in the news lately: pro forma 
  90. accounting? " - Submitted from Kankakee, Ill.         
  91. Answer: Pro forma accounting was a term that first came into widespread use 
  92. during the dot.com bubble. Pro forma accounting is not compliant with 
  93. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP), and sometimes excludes basic 
  94. cost such as marketing and interest. The main objective of pro forma earnings 
  95. is to demonstrate true operating earnings. However, it is up to management to 
  96. decide what expenses are really part of ongoing operations. The risk here is 
  97. that some expenses are overlooked or classified as nonoperating, and thus not 
  98. included in pro forma results. In addition, pro forma statements are usually 
  99. unaudited. Nevertheless, pro forma has gained in use because many companies 
  100. use it as a way to convey how their core operations have been performing, and 
  101. they argue that line items such as goodwill expense, or stock options, may 
  102. hide the true growth in earnings of the their core operations. Furthermore, 
  103. many companies are under intense pressure to make their earnings numbers, or 
  104. to turn a profit, so they have relied on pro forma earnings to give them an 
  105. edge. Wall Street has accepted the use of pro forma earnings because they, 
  106. like the companies they follow, are constantly trying to find inflection 
  107. points in company reports where a company's core operations have just begun 
  108. to change"
  109.  
  110. jans
  111.  
  112.  
  113. In a message dated 1/29/2002 4:14:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
  114. kmalm@earthlink.net writes:
  115.  
  116. <<On EXPE in particular, you have discovered the wonders of proforma 
  117. reporting. DGO uses proforma and so you will notice that their numbers are 
  118. POSITIVE! Last 4 quarters are proforma EPS positive. Prior 4 quarters 
  119. proforma are negative. BUT cashflow *is* positive. (See attached) Dig into 
  120. the financials and you will find where the one time expenses are being 
  121. eliminated. 
  122.  
  123.  Katherine
  124.   >>
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  131. ------------------------------
  132.  
  133. Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:44:19 -0600
  134. From: "david frank" <camelot.homes@charter.net>
  135. Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Katherine's Lecture
  136.  
  137. please send me a copy of Katherine's lecture. a good woman who does not shy
  138. away from questions or boring statements! thank you, david
  139.  
  140.  
  141.  
  142.  
  143.  
  144.  
  145.  
  146. >
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  148. > Do You Yahoo!?
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  163. ------------------------------
  164.  
  165. Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:47:13 -0600
  166. From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
  167. Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news?
  168.  
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  176. Hi Bill,
  177.  
  178. I don't see that there's any news on TTIL, but I think what you're =
  179. seeing is group weakness. Most of the group peaked and started =
  180. correcting 12/28-1/4. Stronger players have managed to hold up (BOBJ, =
  181. TTIL, SEBL), but the steady downdraft in the group was bound to get =
  182. stocks like TTIL eventually. TTIL has had a nice straight up ride since =
  183. it bottomed 9/21 around $10 and has met some major resistance at the the =
  184. $36 level set 6/00. I'd say the "get out even crowd" was selling today. =
  185. One last thing....TTIL was slightly extended--running 75% above the =
  186. 200dMA. In a strong bull market that would probably fly, but I think the =
  187. downdraft in the market as a whole lately is scaring the bejeepers out =
  188. of people. Good. We need plenty of bearishness if we've got any chance =
  189. of getting this new bull off to a good start. Sorry you were caught in =
  190. the rush to the exits, however.
  191.  
  192. Katherine
  193.  
  194. PS I wouldn't bet on SEBL holding up here and would definitely be =
  195. running for the exits if it broke that uptrend. A drop below $31 and its =
  196. bye-bye SEBL.
  197.   ----- Original Message -----=20
  198.   From: Bill Triffet=20
  199.   To: canslim=20
  200.   Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:13 PM
  201.   Subject: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news?
  202.  
  203.  
  204.   Got stopped out today on TTIL (barely broke even). Other than general =
  205. market
  206.   factors, I can't find any current news that would send it down 15% =
  207. today. In
  208.   my view, it was really looking good last week...but that was last =
  209. week. (g)
  210.  
  211.   Also, I'm finding (with Fidelity anyways) that the stop-loss =
  212. executions are
  213.   pretty weak. I had it set at 31 but didn't execute till down at 29.  =
  214. That
  215.   added a hefty 7% downwards move to the trade! I realize that market
  216.   conditions can send a stock down fast and you take what you get but it =
  217. makes
  218.   me want to set a higher stop as a cushion. Of course this presents the
  219.   problem of being stopped out too early. Others find the same dilemma?
  220.  
  221.   -Bill Triffet
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  244. <DIV>Hi Bill,</DIV>
  245. <DIV> </DIV>
  246. <DIV>I don't see that there's any news on TTIL, but I think what you're =
  247. seeing=20
  248. is group weakness. Most of the group peaked and started correcting =
  249. 12/28-1/4.=20
  250. Stronger players have managed to hold up (BOBJ, TTIL, SEBL), but the =
  251. steady=20
  252. downdraft in the group was bound to get stocks like TTIL eventually. =
  253. TTIL has=20
  254. had a nice straight up ride since it bottomed 9/21 around $10 and has =
  255. met some=20
  256. major resistance at the the $36 level set 6/00. I'd say the "get out =
  257. even crowd"=20
  258. was selling today. One last thing....TTIL was slightly extended--running =
  259. 75%=20
  260. above the 200dMA. In a strong bull market that would probably fly, but I =
  261. think=20
  262. the downdraft in the market as a whole lately is scaring the bejeepers =
  263. out of=20
  264. people. Good. We need plenty of bearishness if we've got any chance of =
  265. getting=20
  266. this new bull off to a good start. Sorry you were caught in the rush to =
  267. the=20
  268. exits, however.</DIV>
  269. <DIV> </DIV>
  270. <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
  271. <DIV> </DIV>
  272. <DIV>PS I wouldn't bet on SEBL holding up here and would definitely be =
  273. running=20
  274. for the exits if it broke that uptrend. A drop below $31 and its bye-bye =
  275.  
  276. SEBL.</DIV>
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  286.   Triffet</A> </DIV>
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  290.   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 29, 2002 =
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  292.   PM</DIV>
  293.   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] TTIL , any =
  294. news?</DIV>
  295.   <DIV><BR></DIV>Got stopped out today on TTIL (barely broke even). =
  296. Other than=20
  297.   general market<BR>factors, I can't find any current news that would =
  298. send it=20
  299.   down 15% today. In<BR>my view, it was really looking good last =
  300. week...but that=20
  301.   was last week. (g)<BR><BR>Also, I'm finding (with Fidelity anyways) =
  302. that the=20
  303.   stop-loss executions are<BR>pretty weak. I had it set at 31 but didn't =
  304. execute=20
  305.   till down at 29.  That<BR>added a hefty 7% downwards move to the =
  306. trade! I=20
  307.   realize that market<BR>conditions can send a stock down fast and you =
  308. take what=20
  309.   you get but it makes<BR>me want to set a higher stop as a cushion. Of =
  310. course=20
  311.   this presents the<BR>problem of being stopped out too early. Others =
  312. find the=20
  313.   same dilemma?<BR><BR>-Bill Triffet<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-<BR>-To=20
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  330. ------------------------------
  331.  
  332. Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:24:54 -0800
  333. From: Dan <danc@compuall.net>
  334. Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market
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  341. Enclosed chart is weekly S&P 500.  Channel is linear regression channel is 2
  342. standard deviations.  Fib retracement are on right and it held at 38%.  Trend
  343. is down until it moves through 1177, and it seems to be moving away from that
  344. level nicely.  The 1177 area held from 12-2-01 until 1-6-02, when it started
  345. moving away.
  346.  
  347. I see no sign of a pony, err, a bull.  Maybe a calfing in the spring will
  348. produce one.
  349.  
  350. Dan
  351.  
  352. Andreas Himmelreich wrote:
  353.  
  354. > Opinions please ...
  355. >
  356. > Another Diss Day, on the Nasdaq we are back to levels of mid November !!!
  357. > 50 DMA is clearly broken.
  358. >
  359. > A confused Andreas ....
  360. >
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  671.  
  672. Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:29:52 -0800
  673. From: "Bill Triffet" <btriffet@earthlink.net>
  674. Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news?
  675.  
  676. Hi Katherine,
  677.  
  678. You pointed out a key indicator: the 75% above the 200dma. I think it was
  679. just a couple weeks ago, I was telling someone ELSE why I thought their
  680. stock was extended - and brought up that same rule. (g)
  681.  
  682. While I'm not happy about the big stopout, I did learn from my previous
  683. fiasco (DNCR) and put a stoploss right away on this one.
  684.  
  685. I'm with you on the bearishness. Still not enough fear yet. I'm looking at a
  686. 3 year chart of the Dow. Each dip lower since the March 2K top has been
  687. lower than the last but with a bullish rebound.  Always interesting to look
  688. back at the big picture.
  689.  
  690.  
  691. - -Bill
  692.  
  693.  
  694. - ----- Original Message -----
  695. From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
  696. To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  697. Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:47 PM
  698. Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news?
  699.  
  700.  
  701. Hi Bill,
  702.  
  703. I don't see that there's any news on TTIL, but I think what you're seeing is
  704. group weakness. Most of the group peaked and started correcting 12/28-1/4.
  705. Stronger players have managed to hold up (BOBJ, TTIL, SEBL), but the steady
  706. downdraft in the group was bound to get stocks like TTIL eventually. TTIL
  707. has had a nice straight up ride since it bottomed 9/21 around $10 and has
  708. met some major resistance at the the $36 level set 6/00. I'd say the "get
  709. out even crowd" was selling today. One last thing....TTIL was slightly
  710. extended--running 75% above the 200dMA. In a strong bull market that would
  711. probably fly, but I think the downdraft in the market as a whole lately is
  712. scaring the bejeepers out of people. Good. We need plenty of bearishness if
  713. we've got any chance of getting this new bull off to a good start. Sorry you
  714. were caught in the rush to the exits, however.
  715.  
  716. Katherine
  717.  
  718. PS I wouldn't bet on SEBL holding up here and would definitely be running
  719. for the exits if it broke that uptrend. A drop below $31 and its bye-bye
  720. SEBL.
  721.   ----- Original Message -----
  722.   From: Bill Triffet
  723.   To: canslim
  724.   Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:13 PM
  725.   Subject: [CANSLIM] TTIL , any news?
  726.  
  727.  
  728.   Got stopped out today on TTIL (barely broke even). Other than general
  729. market
  730.   factors, I can't find any current news that would send it down 15% today.
  731. In
  732.   my view, it was really looking good last week...but that was last week.
  733. (g)
  734.  
  735.   Also, I'm finding (with Fidelity anyways) that the stop-loss executions
  736. are
  737.   pretty weak. I had it set at 31 but didn't execute till down at 29.  That
  738.   added a hefty 7% downwards move to the trade! I realize that market
  739.   conditions can send a stock down fast and you take what you get but it
  740. makes
  741.   me want to set a higher stop as a cushion. Of course this presents the
  742.   problem of being stopped out too early. Others find the same dilemma?
  743.  
  744.   -Bill Triffet
  745.  
  746.  
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  762.  
  763. Date: 29 Jan 2002 22:55:20 -0800
  764. From: "Tim Fisher" <Tim@orerockon.com>
  765. Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market
  766.  
  767. The rally is broken IMHO, I will wait for a bottom and confirmation (i.e. 
  768. FT day). I still have SONC, it has died (better than crashing I suppose).
  769.  
  770. At 02:20 AM 1/30/2002 +0100, you wrote:
  771. >Opinions please ...
  772. >
  773. >Another Diss Day, on the Nasdaq we are back to levels of mid November !!!
  774. >50 DMA is clearly broken.
  775. >
  776. >A confused Andreas ....
  777. >
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  783. Tim Fisher
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  796.  
  797. Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:56:40 +0200
  798. From: "K.M Omer" <k4k6@hotmail.com>
  799. Subject: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks
  800.  
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  805. <DIV></DIV>
  806. <P>I have only one question I want the member of this list to help me in finding the answer.My question is how can non-US residents trade american stocks?Iwant to know brokers online can accept applicants from overseas.I try etrade.com but it want social security number and applocant must be us residents.</P>
  807. <P> Please if you know any broker online can accept non american to participate in stock markets give me the web address.</P>
  808. <P>Thanks all in advance.</P>
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