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canslim-digest        Wednesday, May 23 2001        Volume 02 : Number 1395



In this issue:

       RE: [CANSLIM] MSS
       RE: [CANSLIM] DGO service down?
       Re: [CANSLIM] Re:  Analyst up/downgrades
       Re: [CANSLIM] DGO service down?
       Re: [CANSLIM] MSS-debt?
       Re: [CANSLIM] MSS
       Re: [CANSLIM] DGO service down?
       Re: [CANSLIM] MSS
       Re: [CANSLIM] Re:  Analyst

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:34:10 -0400
From: "Hugh Fader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MSS

It's pretty far off its 52 week high of around 31. If you're using DGO, the
data boxes on the charts may have obscured this.

Also note most of the companies in the leadership of this group have high
debt.

- - Hugh

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:56 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MSS


Debt appears quite high for its industry group at 61%, and the
group itself (Elec-Measuring Instruments) is quite low at GRS 31.
Aside from that, I like it. I missed this one on my watch list
quite some time back in its cheaper days, nice to see its still a
strong CANSLIM stock at higher prices.

Tom Worley
[e-mail]


- ----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Parsons <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:13 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] MSS


MSS

97, D,A,C,B but has nice earnings and growth rate.  Looks like it
is forming
a shallow handle on declining volume.
Comments?

This is a new addition to the database.

Rick


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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:43:02 -0400
From: "Jonathan Lien" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] DGO service down?

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Rick:

     I also had trouble connecting to DG this morning.  I wrote to them,
and here is there reply (apparently they were having problems at their
end):

     Thank you for your recent e-mail to Daily Graphs Online.

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any way.

Best regards,
Dan
Daily Graphs Online

jans



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<< Is it just me or are others having problems opening DGO this morning?
(5/23)

 Rick >>

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:44:50 -0400
From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re:  Analyst up/downgrades

Not to defend them, but being a good broker requires lots of
effort and time. I considered myself a "good" broker, even if all
my thoughts and opinions didn't prove to be correct. I still gave
it my best effort, and typically worked a 12 hour day.

Far too many brokers are simply sales persons. That is a result
of the industry, not necessarily their personal ethics. So long
as their compensation is dependent on commissions generated, the
problem will persist. And sales persons rarely understand the
importance of service.

When you are financially rewarded for generating a commission,
without regard or consequence to whether it proves to be in the
best interests of the client, you will have a major problem. That
is why asset managers, who take a fee based on the value of the
acct, are succeeding. If they do a good job overall of managing
the portfolio, then its value goes up and so does their
percentage based fee.

There will always be a large number of people who simply lack the
time, knowledge or experience to manage their own portfolio.
Unfortunately, it takes the combination of both success and time
for a Registered Rep to attain the power to oppose the policy and
attitudes of his employer, and become a self determining broker.

WON talks in HTMMIS about both his personal experience as a
broker, as well as how to find the right one for you "today"
(over 10 years ago). I find his words still current and accurate,
and worth reading again if you are not doing your own trades
online without assistance.

One of the enlightening observations when I became a broker over
a decade ago was to discover just how few brokers were capable of
managing their own personal finances. Back then, most brokers
were on the payroll as "self employed", meaning they not only
were responsible for all the FICA and SS taxes and stuff, but
were expected to make quarterly payments of estimated taxes to
IRS. I never had done that before, but did not find it too
difficult (other than financially). But I was amazed to find that
most brokers tended to just spend their paycheck without thought
to consequences, and ended up in major debt to IRS.

Brokers tend to be eternally optimistic, they have to be, as
their income depends directly on the trading activity of their
clients. I couldn't encourage clients to trade when I didn't feel
it was right for them, so my activity (and resulting income) was
down, and why I am not a broker today.

Why am I not financially independent today? Lots of reasons,
including loss of income when my wife died, lack of capital to
generate gains (50% growth sounds good, but when it's on a $5,000
account, you don't retire on it), high expenses that took years
to overcome, lack of discipline and knowledge, etc.

Were I in a lapse of memory and intelligence to suddenly find
myself once again handling clients, I would do things
differently, mostly persuading clients to put most of their funds
into a mutual fund, with class "C" shares. That generates a
trailing commission, much like an annuity. It means living
without much of an income from funds invested now, but creating a
steady income stream for the future. And for most clients, the
stability of funds allows them to sleep comfortably at night, and
only look at their portfolio every quarter or so.

Ultimately, it takes money to make money, and most brokers don't
have the money to start with, and don't really know what to do
with it when they have it.

Tom Worley
[e-mail]


- ----- Original Message -----
From: jsteff <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades


Just a comment about "brokers".  If they are so knowledgeable and
great at
stock picking why are they still trying to sell the "next great
company" to
their clients?  Shouldn't they have made their millions by now
and retired?
Steff
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades


> Naturally, this group is a bunch of independent thinkers,
capable
> of making a decision for themselves. I wish I could say the
same
> for my former colleagues holding securities licenses, or their
> clients. And we all try to help each other stay out of harm's
> way. Typically we don't have an investment banking relationship
> to the same stocks we are analyzing, thus no bias.
>
> The wirehouses are a joke when it comes to their "plain
English"
> labels for ratings. You need a matrix to translate a "hold" as
> really meaning "sell that sucka, now, at any price". I did find
> such a matrix on the net a year or so ago, don't remember if I
> bookmarked it or not, but if I find it again, I'll post it.
>
> Tom Worley
> [e-mail]
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve F <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades
>
>
> I enjoy following the recommendations of analysts that
> have maintained 'buy' or better on stocks as they have
> fallen 75% to 90% from their highs and only then
> changing the recommendations to a 'hold'.   Ridiculous
> if it were not so pitiful that many, many people
> follow these analysts and their recommendations.  Also
> check out how many 'sell' recommendations you find.
> Surely there are some stocks that you would want to
> unload.
> With every bit of sincerity, I have found that
> recommendations or suggestions from the people in this
> group to surpass anything I have ever received from
> any brokerage house.
> Steve
>
> --- Tim Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > And I can give you just as many examples of stocks
> > for which the downgrade
> > was a non-event a few days later. How could you know
> > which would be the
> > case with your stock? You are not prescient, neither
> > am I, and that is what
> > stops are for (IMHO!) As the list has discussed,
> > downgrades based on a
> > stock reaching a nonsense "target price" are just
> > plain silly. If what is
> > "wrong" with COCO is that it broke out and reached a
> > new high, then give me
> > more of these "wrong" stocks, the more the merrier!
> >
> > On 08:36 AM 5/23/01, Dave Rubin Said:
> > >WON is clear that sometimes you can and should get
> > out of a stock before it
> > >is down 7-8% from your buy point if things don't
> > look right.
> > >
> > >Today's free fall at the open was a clear sign to
> > me not to wait for 8%.
> > >With the stock violating its pivot on high volume,
> > something was clearly
> > >wrong.
> > >
> > >RYL is an even better example. It fell on huge
> > volume on a downgrade on
> > >5/16. With the pivot at 50.38, RYL would not have
> > triggered stops for those
> > >who bought at the right time. But this downgrade
> > was not forgotten days
> > >later, and RYL is now back into its base and shows
> > no signs of recovery.
> > >
> > >Preservation of capital ... preservation of capital
> > ... SERENITY NOW ...
> > >SERENITY NOW ...
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [e-mail]
> > > > [mailto:[e-mail]]On
> > Behalf Of Tim Fisher
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:27 AM
> > > > To: [e-mail]
> > > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you had an 8% stop loss and caught the pivot
> > within 5% you would still
> > > > be in. Was your stop at your buy point? I am not
> > at all concerned about
> > > > COCO, as the list has discussed (too much)
> > yesterday, these kind of
> > > > downgrades are usually forgotten within 2 days
> > of the knee-jerk sell-off.
> > > >
> > > > On 06:47 AM 5/23/01, Rick Parsons Said:
> > > > >COCO was downgraded this morning and I got
> > stopped out!  Darn Analysts.
> > > > >
> > > > >Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: [e-mail]
> > > > >[mailto:[e-mail]]On
> > Behalf Of Dave Cameron
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:11 PM
> > > > >To: [e-mail]
> > > > >Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Patti,
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm very cynical on analyst downgrades (or
> > upgrades).   As a general
> > > > >rule, in the recent bear on the Nasdaq,
> > analysts for major brokerage
> > > > >houses would rate companies like CSCO as a
> > strong buy half way down
> > > > >its descent.   At that point, they'd say it was
> > overvalued (AFTER it
> > > > >had already shed 30% - and they'd probably got
> > their clients out).
> > > > >This proclamation generally was the catalyst
> > for another quick fall.
> > > > >
> > > > >On the flip side, I've been burned in bull
> > markets this way.   I once
> > > > >bought a stock on a breakout to a new high.   2
> > days later, it was
> > > > >downgraded by a Merrill Lynch analyst.   The
> > stock quickly dropped
> > > > >15% on the announcement - leaving me with a
> > quick 8% loss.   Silly
> > > > >me, I figured the only reason the stock went
> > down was because of the
> > > > >analyst downgrade.   Well, I learned the hard
> > way that once Merrill
> > > > >Lynch talks, others follow.   A week later, the
> > stock was down 25%,
> > > > >and I was still holding it.   I had to sell
> > then, realizing I was
> > > > >wrong.  3 months later it got back above my buy
> > price.   I'm
> > > > >confident that had ML not downgraded the stock,
> > I would have had a
> > > > >profit.
> > > > >
> > > > >My two cents,
> > > > >
> > > > >Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >=====
> > > > >Dave Cameron
> > > > >[e-mail]
> > > > >
> > > >
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:54:13 -0500
From: Gene Ricci <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO service down?

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  test

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  Rick:

       I also had trouble connecting to DG this morning.  I wrote to =
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  and here is there reply (apparently they were having problems at their
  end):

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  Dan
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  jans



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  << Is it just me or are others having problems opening DGO this =
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:51:41 -0400
From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MSS-debt?

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DGO

Tom Worley
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:50:57 -0400
From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MSS

You are right, Hugh, more of the top companies in this group have
high debt than those that do not, I should have checked this
first. I note that GRMN and TEK are the only ones in the top 6
that do not have high debt. But I still do not understand why
this group should be showing such high debt.

Tom Worley
[e-mail]


- ----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Fader <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MSS


It's pretty far off its 52 week high of around 31. If you're
using DGO, the
data boxes on the charts may have obscured this.

Also note most of the companies in the leadership of this group
have high
debt.

- - Hugh

- -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:56 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MSS


Debt appears quite high for its industry group at 61%, and the
group itself (Elec-Measuring Instruments) is quite low at GRS 31.
Aside from that, I like it. I missed this one on my watch list
quite some time back in its cheaper days, nice to see its still a
strong CANSLIM stock at higher prices.

Tom Worley
[e-mail]


- ----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Parsons <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:13 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] MSS


MSS

97, D,A,C,B but has nice earnings and growth rate.  Looks like it
is forming
a shallow handle on declining volume.
Comments?

This is a new addition to the database.

Rick


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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:04:26 -0400
From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO service down?

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I've been on for 2.5 hours continuously, without any problems.

Maybe I'm "special"??

Tom Worley
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:54 PM
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  it's been erratic this evening but I was finally able to get on....
    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    test

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    Rick:

         I also had trouble connecting to DG this morning.  I wrote to =
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can I find the debt on the investors.com? Before I buy a stock I like to see
the debt..I really like the beta test that IBD let us do....when on the net
can I go to find the debt.thanks

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:08:50 -0500
From: "Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re:  Analyst

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Wall Street's high-priced analysts cheered the loudest for technology =
stocks last year when they should have been screaming "Sell!"

Now, with a new bull market gathering momentum, they're still out of =
step. Some stocks are recovering powerfully after analysts all but gave =
up on them.

"I think they got caught up in irrational exuberance," said Mitch Zacks =
of Zacks Investment Research. "It's very difficult to predict stock =
prices. But their analysis became divorced from reality."

There's a lesson for investors in this: When you see an analyst on TV, =
hit the mute button.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Norman=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades ... plain English


  I don't know about the 'plain English' analysts use but someone must.  =
Just about the time the downgrade below was issued NVDA went from +5% to =
negative territory.  I try not to let upgrades/downgrades influence my =
decisions but I hate it when I'm on the losing end of a downgrade. =20

  Alert: Buckingham Research downgrades NVDA to Accumulate (Headline =
only) Briefing.com - 03:48 PM EDT

  And, why didn't the upgrade below keep FEIC from falling?  Did it fall =
as part of the semiconductor demise today?  As Jerry Jeff Walker said, =
"I been taken again."

  Alert: Needham & Co resumes coverage of FEIC at Strong Buy, price =
target $45 (Headline only) Briefing.com - 08:56 AM EDT

  I guess a falling tide leaves all ships in the mud, 'til the next tide =
anyway.  And analyst's opinions are just that, someone's opinion.  =
Sigghhh.

  Norm

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: <[e-mail]>
  Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades=20


  > Naturally, this group is a bunch of independent thinkers, capable
  > of making a decision for themselves. I wish I could say the same
  > for my former colleagues holding securities licenses, or their
  > clients. And we all try to help each other stay out of harm's
  > way. Typically we don't have an investment banking relationship
  > to the same stocks we are analyzing, thus no bias.
  >=20
  > The wirehouses are a joke when it comes to their "plain English"
  > labels for ratings. You need a matrix to translate a "hold" as
  > really meaning "sell that sucka, now, at any price". I did find
  > such a matrix on the net a year or so ago, don't remember if I
  > bookmarked it or not, but if I find it again, I'll post it.
  >=20
  > Tom Worley
  > [e-mail]
  >=20
  >=20
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Steve F <[e-mail]>
  > To: <[e-mail]>
  > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:27 PM
  > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades
  >=20
  >=20
  > I enjoy following the recommendations of analysts that
  > have maintained 'buy' or better on stocks as they have
  > fallen 75% to 90% from their highs and only then
  > changing the recommendations to a 'hold'.   Ridiculous
  > if it were not so pitiful that many, many people
  > follow these analysts and their recommendations.  Also
  > check out how many 'sell' recommendations you find.
  > Surely there are some stocks that you would want to
  > unload.
  > With every bit of sincerity, I have found that
  > recommendations or suggestions from the people in this
  > group to surpass anything I have ever received from
  > any brokerage house.
  > Steve
  >=20
  > --- Tim Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
  > > And I can give you just as many examples of stocks
  > > for which the downgrade
  > > was a non-event a few days later. How could you know
  > > which would be the
  > > case with your stock? You are not prescient, neither
  > > am I, and that is what
  > > stops are for (IMHO!) As the list has discussed,
  > > downgrades based on a
  > > stock reaching a nonsense "target price" are just
  > > plain silly. If what is
  > > "wrong" with COCO is that it broke out and reached a
  > > new high, then give me
  > > more of these "wrong" stocks, the more the merrier!
  > >
  > > On 08:36 AM 5/23/01, Dave Rubin Said:
  > > >WON is clear that sometimes you can and should get
  > > out of a stock before it
  > > >is down 7-8% from your buy point if things don't
  > > look right.
  > > >
  > > >Today's free fall at the open was a clear sign to
  > > me not to wait for 8%.
  > > >With the stock violating its pivot on high volume,
  > > something was clearly
  > > >wrong.
  > > >
  > > >RYL is an even better example. It fell on huge
  > > volume on a downgrade on
  > > >5/16. With the pivot at 50.38, RYL would not have
  > > triggered stops for those
  > > >who bought at the right time. But this downgrade
  > > was not forgotten days
  > > >later, and RYL is now back into its base and shows
  > > no signs of recovery.
  > > >
  > > >Preservation of capital ... preservation of capital
  > > ... SERENITY NOW ...
  > > >SERENITY NOW ...
  > > >
  > > > > -----Original Message-----
  > > > > From: [e-mail]
  > > > > [mailto:[e-mail]]On
  > > Behalf Of Tim Fisher
  > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:27 AM
  > > > > To: [e-mail]
  > > > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades
  > > > >
  > > > >
  > > > > If you had an 8% stop loss and caught the pivot
  > > within 5% you would still
  > > > > be in. Was your stop at your buy point? I am not
  > > at all concerned about
  > > > > COCO, as the list has discussed (too much)
  > > yesterday, these kind of
  > > > > downgrades are usually forgotten within 2 days
  > > of the knee-jerk sell-off.
  > > > >
  > > > > On 06:47 AM 5/23/01, Rick Parsons Said:
  > > > > >COCO was downgraded this morning and I got
  > > stopped out!  Darn Analysts.
  > > > > >
  > > > > >Rick
  > > > > >
  > > > > >
  > > > > >-----Original Message-----
  > > > > >From: [e-mail]
  > > > > >[mailto:[e-mail]]On
  > > Behalf Of Dave Cameron
  > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:11 PM
  > > > > >To: [e-mail]
  > > > > >Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades
  > > > > >
  > > > > >
  > > > > >Patti,
  > > > > >
  > > > > >I'm very cynical on analyst downgrades (or
  > > upgrades).   As a general
  > > > > >rule, in the recent bear on the Nasdaq,
  > > analysts for major brokerage
  > > > > >houses would rate companies like CSCO as a
  > > strong buy half way down
  > > > > >its descent.   At that point, they'd say it was
  > > overvalued (AFTER it
  > > > > >had already shed 30% - and they'd probably got
  > > their clients out).
  > > > > >This proclamation generally was the catalyst
  > > for another quick fall.
  > > > > >
  > > > > >On the flip side, I've been burned in bull
  > > markets this way.   I once
  > > > > >bought a stock on a breakout to a new high.   2
  > > days later, it was
  > > > > >downgraded by a Merrill Lynch analyst.   The
  > > stock quickly dropped
  > > > > >15% on the announcement - leaving me with a
  > > quick 8% loss.   Silly
  > > > > >me, I figured the only reason the stock went
  > > down was because of the
  > > > > >analyst downgrade.   Well, I learned the hard
  > > way that once Merrill
  > > > > >Lynch talks, others follow.   A week later, the
  > > stock was down 25%,
  > > > > >and I was still holding it.   I had to sell
  > > then, realizing I was
  > > > > >wrong.  3 months later it got back above my buy
  > > price.   I'm
  > > > > >confident that had ML not downgraded the stock,
  > > I would have had a
  > > > > >profit.
  > > > > >
  > > > > >My two cents,
  > > > > >
  > > > > >Dave
  > > > > >
  > > > > >
  > > > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  > > > > >Dave Cameron
  > > > > >[e-mail]
  > > > > >
  > > > >
  > > >__________________________________________________
  > > > > >Do You Yahoo!?
  > > > > >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at
  > > great prices
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  > > > > [e-mail]
  > > > > WWW: http://OreRockOn.com
  > > > > See naked fish and rocks!
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">Norman</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=[e-mail]=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 23, 2001 =
8:34=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Re: =
Analyst=20
  up/downgrades ... plain English</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I don't know about the 'plain English' analysts use but someone=20
  must.  Just about the time the downgrade below was issued =
NVDA went=20
  from +5% to negative territory.  I try not to let =
upgrades/downgrades=20
  influence my decisions but I hate it when I'm on the losing end of a=20
  downgrade.  </DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>Alert: Buckingham Research downgrades NVDA =
to=20
  Accumulate <SPAN class=3DfFP>(Headline only) Briefing.com - 03:48 PM=20
  EDT</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3DfFP></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3DfFP>And, why didn't the upgrade below keep FEIC =
from=20
  falling?  Did it fall as part of the semiconductor demise=20
  today?  As Jerry Jeff Walker said, "I been taken =
again."</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3DfFP></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3DfFP><FONT face=3DCourier><FONT =
color=3D#cc0000>Alert:</FONT>=20
  Needham & Co resumes coverage of FEIC at Strong Buy, price target =
$45=20
  <SPAN class=3DfFP><FONT size=3D2><NOBR>(Headline only) =
Briefing.com</NOBR> - 08:56=20
  AM EDT</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3DfFP><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3DfFP></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3DfFP><SPAN class=3DfFP>I guess a falling tide leaves =
all ships=20
  in the mud, 'til the next tide anyway.  And analyst's opinions =
are just=20
  that, someone's opinion.  Sigghhh.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3DfFP><SPAN class=3DfFP></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3DfFP><SPAN class=3DfFP>Norm</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV>From: "Tom Worley" <<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>></DIV>
  <DIV>To: <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
></DIV>
  <DIV>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:16 PM</DIV>
  <DIV>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst up/downgrades </DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>> Naturally, this group is a bunch of independent =
thinkers,=20
  capable<BR>> of making a decision for themselves. I wish I could =
say the=20
  same<BR>> for my former colleagues holding securities licenses, or=20
  their<BR>> clients. And we all try to help each other stay out of=20
  harm's<BR>> way. Typically we don't have an investment banking=20
  relationship<BR>> to the same stocks we are analyzing, thus no=20
  bias.<BR>> <BR>> The wirehouses are a joke when it comes to =
their "plain=20
  English"<BR>> labels for ratings. You need a matrix to translate a =
"hold"=20
  as<BR>> really meaning "sell that sucka, now, at any price". I did=20
  find<BR>> such a matrix on the net a year or so ago, don't remember =
if=20
  I<BR>> bookmarked it or not, but if I find it again, I'll post =
it.<BR>>=20
  <BR>> Tom Worley<BR>> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A><BR>> =
<BR>>=20
  <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: Steve F <<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>><BR>> =
To: <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
><BR>>=20
  Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:27 PM<BR>> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] =
Re:=20
  Analyst up/downgrades<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I enjoy following the=20
  recommendations of analysts that<BR>> have maintained 'buy' or =
better on=20
  stocks as they have<BR>> fallen 75% to 90% from their highs and =
only=20
  then<BR>> changing the recommendations to a 'hold'.  =20
  Ridiculous<BR>> if it were not so pitiful that many, many =
people<BR>>=20
  follow these analysts and their recommendations.  Also<BR>> =
check out=20
  how many 'sell' recommendations you find.<BR>> Surely there are =
some stocks=20
  that you would want to<BR>> unload.<BR>> With every bit of =
sincerity, I=20
  have found that<BR>> recommendations or suggestions from the people =
in=20
  this<BR>> group to surpass anything I have ever received =
from<BR>> any=20
  brokerage house.<BR>> Steve<BR>> <BR>> --- Tim Fisher <<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>> =
wrote:<BR>> >=20
  And I can give you just as many examples of stocks<BR>> > for =
which the=20
  downgrade<BR>> > was a non-event a few days later. How could you =

  know<BR>> > which would be the<BR>> > case with your =
stock? You=20
  are not prescient, neither<BR>> > am I, and that is what<BR>> =
>=20
  stops are for (IMHO!) As the list has discussed,<BR>> > =
downgrades based=20
  on a<BR>> > stock reaching a nonsense "target price" are =
just<BR>>=20
  > plain silly. If what is<BR>> > "wrong" with COCO is that it =
broke=20
  out and reached a<BR>> > new high, then give me<BR>> > =
more of=20
  these "wrong" stocks, the more the merrier!<BR>> ><BR>> > =
On 08:36=20
  AM 5/23/01, Dave Rubin Said:<BR>> > >WON is clear that =
sometimes you=20
  can and should get<BR>> > out of a stock before it<BR>> > =
>is=20
  down 7-8% from your buy point if things don't<BR>> > look =
right.<BR>>=20
  > ><BR>> > >Today's free fall at the open was a clear =
sign=20
  to<BR>> > me not to wait for 8%.<BR>> > >With the stock =

  violating its pivot on high volume,<BR>> > something was =
clearly<BR>>=20
  > >wrong.<BR>> > ><BR>> > >RYL is an even =
better=20
  example. It fell on huge<BR>> > volume on a downgrade on<BR>> =
>=20
  >5/16. With the pivot at 50.38, RYL would not have<BR>> > =
triggered=20
  stops for those<BR>> > >who bought at the right time. But =
this=20
  downgrade<BR>> > was not forgotten days<BR>> > >later, =
and RYL=20
  is now back into its base and shows<BR>> > no signs of =
recovery.<BR>>=20
  > ><BR>> > >Preservation of capital ... preservation of =

  capital<BR>> > ... SERENITY NOW ...<BR>> > >SERENITY =
NOW=20
  ...<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > -----Original=20
  Message-----<BR>> > > > From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]=
sion.com</A><BR>>=20
  > > > [mailto:[e-mail]]On<BR>> =
> Behalf=20
  Of Tim Fisher<BR>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 =
11:27=20
  AM<BR>> > > > To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
<BR>>=20
  > > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst =
up/downgrades<BR>> >=20
  > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > If you had an =
8% stop=20
  loss and caught the pivot<BR>> > within 5% you would =
still<BR>> >=20
  > > be in. Was your stop at your buy point? I am not<BR>> =
> at all=20
  concerned about<BR>> > > > COCO, as the list has discussed =
(too=20
  much)<BR>> > yesterday, these kind of<BR>> > > > =
downgrades=20
  are usually forgotten within 2 days<BR>> > of the knee-jerk=20
  sell-off.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > On 06:47 AM =
5/23/01,=20
  Rick Parsons Said:<BR>> > > > >COCO was downgraded this =
morning=20
  and I got<BR>> > stopped out!  Darn Analysts.<BR>> > =
>=20
  > ><BR>> > > > >Rick<BR>> > > > =
><BR>>=20
  > > > ><BR>> > > > >-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR>> > > > >From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]=
sion.com</A><BR>>=20
  > > > >[mailto:[e-mail]]On<BR>> =
>=20
  Behalf Of Dave Cameron<BR>> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, May =
22, 2001=20
  10:11 PM<BR>> > > > >To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
<BR>>=20
  > > > >Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: Analyst =
up/downgrades<BR>> >=20
  > > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > >=20
  >Patti,<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > >I'm =
very=20
  cynical on analyst downgrades (or<BR>> > upgrades).   =
As a=20
  general<BR>> > > > >rule, in the recent bear on the=20
  Nasdaq,<BR>> > analysts for major brokerage<BR>> > > =
>=20
  >houses would rate companies like CSCO as a<BR>> > strong buy =
half=20
  way down<BR>> > > > >its descent.   At that =
point,=20
  they'd say it was<BR>> > overvalued (AFTER it<BR>> > > =
>=20
  >had already shed 30% - and they'd probably got<BR>> > their =
clients=20
  out).<BR>> > > > >This proclamation generally was the=20
  catalyst<BR>> > for another quick fall.<BR>> > > >=20
  ><BR>> > > > >On the flip side, I've been burned in=20
  bull<BR>> > markets this way.   I once<BR>> > =
> >=20
  >bought a stock on a breakout to a new high.   2<BR>> =
>=20
  days later, it was<BR>> > > > >downgraded by a Merrill =
Lynch=20
  analyst.   The<BR>> > stock quickly dropped<BR>> =
> >=20
  > >15% on the announcement - leaving me with a<BR>> > =
quick 8%=20
  loss.   Silly<BR>> > > > >me, I figured the =
only=20
  reason the stock went<BR>> > down was because of the<BR>> =
> >=20
  > >analyst downgrade.   Well, I learned the =
hard<BR>> >=20
  way that once Merrill<BR>> > > > >Lynch talks, others=20
  follow.   A week later, the<BR>> > stock was down =
25%,<BR>>=20
  > > > >and I was still holding it.   I had to=20
  sell<BR>> > then, realizing I was<BR>> > > >=20
  >wrong.  3 months later it got back above my buy<BR>> >=20
  price.   I'm<BR>> > > > >confident that had =
ML not=20
  downgraded the stock,<BR>> > I would have had a<BR>> > =
> >=20
  >profit.<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > >My =
two=20
  cents,<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > =
>Dave<BR>>=20
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