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canslim Digest            Monday, 3 February 1997      Volume 01 : Number 069

In this issue:

    Re: [CANSLIM] Daily Graphs
    Re: [CANSLIM] Scan stocks for certain criteria
    Re: [CANSLIM] Pivot Points
    Re: [CANSLIM] Introduction
    [CANSLIM] Introduction
    Re: [CANSLIM] Daily Graphs
    Re: [CANSLIM] SMTC
    [CANSLIM] Darvas' book
    [CANSLIM] HI. =)
    Re: [CANSLIM] moving averages
    Re: [CANSLIM] HI. =)
    Re: [CANSLIM] SMTC
    Re: [CANSLIM] HI. =)
    Re: [CANSLIM] HI. =)
    Re: [CANSLIM] Daily Graphs
    [CANSLIM] =)
    [CANSLIM] BUS
    Re: [CANSLIM] Darvas' book
    Re: [CANSLIM] HI. =)

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From: Craig Griffin <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 09:21:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Daily Graphs

At 02:47 PM 2/1/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I keep hearing about Daily Graphs, can someone explain what this
>service is, how often it's published, who publishes it, and how to
>use it to screen Canslim stocks? Does it include all stocks or just a
>those with Canslim potential? I'd appreciate all the details anyone
>can provide.

Daily Graphs is a publication by William O'Neil & Co.  It is published
weekly. There are two editions each week, one for the NYSE and one for the
NASDAQ/AMEX. Each contains approx 300 pages of stock charts, 4 charts to the
page.  Each chart also has approx 50 other data items, some fundamental,
some technical on each stock.  The stocks selected for the weekly editions
change based on such items as recent earnings, relative strength, new price
highs, etc.  I don't know exactly how they choose which stocks to add and
which ones to drop each week.  But the formula attempts to show you the best
candidates for price appreciation in each market.  You must then look
through the books and apply CANSLIM screening to determine which ones look
the most like CANSLIM (no CANSLIM screening per se is done in advance,
because many non-CANSLIM investors subscribe and use other investment
philosophies).  There is one Daily Graphs chart published daily in
Investor's Business Daily. Look at the Companies in the News page (where
they profile one company on an entire page with 3 different charts for the
company).  This is usually on the next to last page of Section A. The middle
chart of the 3 is the one pulled from the Daily Graph's publication. There
is bold faced box of type on each chart labeling it, the DG chart's box says
"Daily Prices for One Year, Arithmetic Scale".  That is exactly what you get
each week, about 1200 charts in each publication (NYSE and NASDAQ) just like
that one.  Every time there is a change in any data item it changes each
week.  All data items are defined on the last page each week.  Subscriptions
are available by calling 800-472-7479.  Subscription costs are the same for
each book (NYSE and NASDAQ), so if you subscribe to both multiply the
subscription cost times 2.  Postage costs are the same whether you subscibe
to one or both books.

Subscription rates                      Postage/Home Delivery
weekly (52 issues)      $363            $156
biweekly (26 issues)    $297            $ 78
monthly (12 issues)     $195            $ 36
5 week trial (5 issues) $ 14            $ 15

So, to subscribe weekly to the NYSE book is $363 + $156 = $519 per year.
To subscribe weekly to both the NYSE and NASDAQ books is $363 + $363 + $156
= $882 per year.  To subscibe monthly to the NASDAQ book is $195 + $36 =
$231 per year.  This is probably good enough for most people, especially
just getting started with CANSLIM, if combined with Investor's Business
Daily and a daily charting service or the free charts on the internet.  A
good way to test the waters of course is the 5 week free trial (which is
only available 1 time per year per person).

(I'm not affiliated with IBD or DG in any way, I just a very satisfied
subscriber).


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From: Johan Van Houtven <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 15:35:08 +0100
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Scan stocks for certain criteria

So would I. But I can not get IBD or DG here in Belgium (certainly not in
time), so I have no other choice.

At 03:34 PM 2/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>weekly or bi-weekly review of DGs. O'Neill's got a good computer, I
>would rather let him do the first scan and narrow the field down for
>me, then look at the charts for patterns, then study the nrs and my
>finances.
>
>tom w
>----------
>> From: Johan Van Houtven <[e-mail]>
>> To: [e-mail]
>> Subject: [CANSLIM] Scan stocks for certain criteria
>> Date: Saturday, February 01, 1997 3:44 PM
>>
>> Anyone have a suggestion for a good set of scanning parameters to
>detect
>> good stocks before the breakout?
>>
>
>


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From: "James Adams" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 09:37:11 -0500
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Pivot Points

Craig Griffin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I'll do my best.
> It seems that in some regards "pivot point" is a bad term, because pivot
> seems to imply the point at which the turn comes (such is at the bottom
of
> the handle), when in fact it refers to the point at which overhead
> resistance is broken (such as at a new high, or a near new high).
> Craig

Craig, thanks so much. Your explanations were easy to understand and pretty
much in line with what I thought, however giving me some concrete examples
helped. I'm very visually oriented, I guess that's why I love charts so
much and want to be able to read them better.

Also, for what it is worth, look at SEMTECH  (SMTC) I'm already up 52% on
this stock, but I think from its chart pattern it has more to go. My
reading is that it formed the cup, but rather than a true handle has
consolidated and could possibly move up to its 52 week high of 26 and more.
The CANSLIM number however are not that great. I humbly admit I broke with
the system on this one.

Their quarter ended Jan 29 and they'll publish in the 2nd week of February
I believe. I started watching this stock after Thomson's Market Edge noted
extreme insider buying in the Spring of 96. When it started up I bought it,
sold it after 25% gain, bought it back a few weeks later and I am still
holding it, with as I said earlier a 52% gain. I must admit, however, I've
been watching for it to drop into the handle and ready to sell at any time.

TIA,

Jim Adams        Maysville, KY (USA)
[e-mail]
http://www.cris.com/~jimadams/


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From: Craig Griffin <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 09:40:14 -0500
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Introduction

Mike,

I just sent a reply to your request for info on Daily Graphs, but forgot to
extend my welcome to the group.  We are glad to have you aboard! And thank
you for the introduction.  We are a varied and friendly group as you might
expect, all learning CANSLIM techniques together by discussing and critique
of both concepts and individual stocks.

Best regards,
Craig

PS.  You were asking about other CANSLIM screening services.  The only real
competition to Daily Graphs that I know of is Telescan (an online type
service). No personal experience with it, but I know some people do quite
well with it.  I think it runs about $40 a month (partly depends on how and
when you are online and what specific services you belong to).  Also see
Johan's recent posts re:
http://www.techcharts.com/scan.html.



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From: Ellen Ritt <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 09:09:12 -0700
Subject: [CANSLIM] Introduction

All of these recent intos made me realize that I too have been a lurker!

I joined the group a while back to learn more about CANSLIM - I bought
ONeill's book but haven't had a chance to read yet. One of these days I will
catch up.  I've only been investing in individual stocks for 2-3 years
(outside company sponsored stock purchase programs)

I live in Colorado and work for a national consulting services company. I
guess if I have any expertise in an industry it would in the
consulting/technical services industry. Y2K will be very good to companies
like these for many years to come. Also the increasing demand in general for
technical professionals will also help these companies. In my opinion you
have to be a pretty poorly run company to not be making lots of money these
days.

My current favorite stocks are (in random order) USRX, SUNW, MSFT,  & CSCO.

I look forward to learning lots more and hopefully contributing more often.

That's it for now!
ellen
________________________________________
Ellen Ritt
[e-mail]


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From: "tom worley" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 10:59:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Daily Graphs

Excellent answer, Craig, I was hoping someone would jump in and save
me some typing. To clarify on the "criteria for selection for
inclusion/exclusion in DG" issue, basic CANSLIM parameters apply. The
most common deciding criteria is liquidity, ADV must be 20K or
better. If two stocks in same group have essentially the same CANSLIM
criteria, and there is room for only one, then the one with the
higher ADV will go in. Craig also did not mention that there are a
number of pages with various lists and charts in the front of each
book that are most useful listing, among other things, the top
industry groups and top stocks.

tom w
- ----------
> From: Craig Griffin <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Daily Graphs
> Date: Sunday, February 02, 1997 9:21 AM
>


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From: Johan Van Houtven <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 18:16:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SMTC

The 52-week high is 26 3/8. (In September 1995 it went to about 31 1/4. But
that is long enough ago for me to consider it irrelevant now.)

On the chart you can see a cup formation. The edges of the cup are: on the
left February 1996 (26 - 24) and on the right January 1997 (24 - 25 5/8).
One could argue were the cup begins and ends: from 24 to 24 or from 26 tot
25 5/8). So you could debate wether or not we have a small handle here. It
looks like one to me.

If the formation from 11 January to 31 January 1997 can be called a handle,
it has had a few days of decreasing volume, while the price trended down at
first and then up. Looks good.

(The handle is quite short though if you compare it with SGMA for example.)

Personally I'd like SMTC to break the 26 3/8 52 week high.

CANSLIM:
- -------------

C: Current quarterly eps:

Quarterly eps: .29 0.31 0.40 .30 .20 .31 (last 6 Qs. Last one is 10/31/96)

Nothing to be thrilled about here. But lots of semi's are in this situation.

A: Annual eps

Annual eps: 0.16  0.10  0.02  0.25 1.21 (1/31/96)

Last 3 years OK.

N: new products, new management, new highs:

New high: not yet. Chart looks good enough to watch the stock.

News: Wednesday December 18 9:16 AM EDT:
Semtech Corp. names Jean Claude Zambelli vice president of sales and
marketing. Not relevant enough for me.

S: Supply and demand

Float:  www.stocksmart says: 4.49 M.  Barron's says: shares outstanding 6M

L: Leader or Laggard

I don't have IBD alas. Maybe someone can look it up?

I: Instititions own 23.20 %. 26 institutions

(data:
http://www.barrons.com/cgi-bin/bench_display?symbol=SMTC&app=2&isba=0&isln=1
&isps=1&ispt=1&ispa=1&ispq=1)

M: Semiconductor sector currently in favor. Look at leaders like AMAT, VTSS,
LRCX etc.

General information:

Company Summary:

Semtech Corporation manufactures and markets semiconductor products. The
company makes transient voltage suppressors, which provide protection for
alternating current (AC) and direct current (DC) signals and are used in
computer and telecommunications applications. It makes linear and switching
voltage regulators for microprocessors.
The company also makes rectifiers, which are used to convert AC signal to
DC. Semtech's rectifiers are used in military applications. The company has
manufacturing facilities in California, Texas, and Scotland and sells its
products to military, commercial, and aerospace customers worldwide.


At 09:37 AM 2/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Craig Griffin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> I'll do my best.
>> It seems that in some regards "pivot point" is a bad term, because pivot
>> seems to imply the point at which the turn comes (such is at the bottom
>of
>> the handle), when in fact it refers to the point at which overhead
>> resistance is broken (such as at a new high, or a near new high).
>> Craig
>
>Craig, thanks so much. Your explanations were easy to understand and pretty
>much in line with what I thought, however giving me some concrete examples
>helped. I'm very visually oriented, I guess that's why I love charts so
>much and want to be able to read them better.
>
>Also, for what it is worth, look at SEMTECH  (SMTC) I'm already up 52% on
>this stock, but I think from its chart pattern it has more to go. My
>reading is that it formed the cup, but rather than a true handle has
>consolidated and could possibly move up to its 52 week high of 26 and more.
>The CANSLIM number however are not that great. I humbly admit I broke with
>the system on this one.
>
>Their quarter ended Jan 29 and they'll publish in the 2nd week of February
>I believe. I started watching this stock after Thomson's Market Edge noted
>extreme insider buying in the Spring of 96. When it started up I bought it,
>sold it after 25% gain, bought it back a few weeks later and I am still
>holding it, with as I said earlier a 52% gain. I must admit, however, I've
>been watching for it to drop into the handle and ready to sell at any time.
>
>TIA,
>
>Jim Adams        Maysville, KY (USA)
>[e-mail]
>http://www.cris.com/~jimadams/
>
>


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From: Zoran Mitrovski <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:36:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [CANSLIM] Darvas' book

This sunny Sunday noon I just finished a great book I started
reading few days ago:
"How I Made $2,000,000 in the Stock Market" by Nicolas Darvas.

I would recommend this quick read to anyone who hasn't done it
already. It shows the ripening process of an investor through
his own words. The scenario develops in the 50's but is as
relevant today as it has been then. The guy was a dancer.
He developed from a stupid and absolutely unorganized
gambler with Canadian stocks, through a Wall Street
sucker that run from one hype stock to another, to
finally developing his own strategy and beating the
hell out of the conventional "wisdom" that still
prevails on Wall Street. Amazingly, what hurt him the
most was the closenes to the rumors and the news of
Wall Street, and what helped him most was the
detachment from all that while only relying on the
quotes telegraphed to him by his broker while he was
on a two year dancing tour around the world.

Myself, I learned a lot from there, and I feel even
more encouragment to develop my own thing and just
stick to it. Perhaps too optimistically, I found
lots in common with the guy. I just need to train
myself into being as patient as he was.

Cheers,
Zoran





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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 14:52:09 EST
Subject: [CANSLIM] HI. =)

Hi. My name is Ty. I just turned 19.  I've been following the market for
about 3 years now.  It's been quite a ride.  Like all of you, i base many
of my investment decisions on the CANSLIM criteria.   But, I find myself
breaking the rules here and there, for how can one be so conservative at
such young an age? To be honest, I base most of my decisions on charts.
I use my IRA to invest. I currently have around 13K to play with.   I
just sold AMWD on Friday, almost a 20% inc in two weeks.  Those are the
type of stocks I usually look for.  Stocks taking a break from momentum.
I look at the chart,  look for buying activity after the selling dries,
and buy.  I let the others do the research for me.   However, i do make
sure the fundamentals are there, specifically quarterly advances.  I plan
to buy a company called Gasonics (GSNX) on Monday.  It's at 18 now.
They've just had an earnings estimate increase, which puts the forward
P/E at around 15 according the an analyst at Morgan Stanley.  But, look
at the chart and you'll see something interesting.  At it's high, there
are approximately 2.6 million shares stuck there. ( No ones going to sell
a quality company at a loss.)  It then went on to consolidate around 4
pts..  And, it's now filling in that gap on increasing volume.  I see 20
soon.  I'm also watching others such as FPWR ACRT SFAM etc. , but i'll
tell you guys when I buy them, if you care i mean. Wish me Luck. =)

Ty


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:37:03 -0800
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] moving averages

> From:          Craig Griffin <[e-mail]>
> Subject:       Re: [CANSLIM] moving averages

> This is a neat concept.  Never heard such an scientific description of the
> concept.  Thank you very much for taking the time to post it!  After careful


Here is a little more detail on the book: the name of the book is
"Street Smarts" by Linda Raschke and Larry Connors.  She only trades
futures, he trades both stocks and futures.  THe book is $175, and
at that price I don't think I can recommend it for CANSLIM people
since it is mainly very short term trades, some of which are
strictly for futures.  They are looking for low risk points to enter
a market, and if the trade doesn't work out, they are out quickly,
like in a day in the case of futures.  The name of the moving
average trade is "The Holy Grail", which they say is a joke on the
idea of finding the holy grail of trades that will make millions
with no effort, since there is no such thing.


> reading, there is still one concept or term that I don't understand.
> You wrote:
> >(snip)
> >The protective stop is under whichever bar is the
> >near term low, since the stock can trade around the 20 XMA for
> >several days before recovering.
>
> How does one determine the "near term low"?

Oops, guess that was a bit fuzzy.  To take my Intel example, on
10/29/96, Intel had a low of 103.75, high of 107.25.  This is the
day the price touched the 20 XMA, so your buy point is 107 3/8.  As
it happens, the next day (10/30) was your buy day and a higher low
was made, so the stop is just under 103.75, say 103.50, or 103.625.
However, if on 10/30 the low had gone below 103.75 before going
above 107.25, you would use the new low made on 10/30 as the sell
stop.  They call this the swing low, just whatever is the lowest low
made while the price is hanging around the 20 day XMA before you
buy.

I personally haven't used this concept, but after your post and
after watching Intel go up without me on board (darn), I decided to
plot it on the chart of Intel, and it does look like a good entry
technique if you miss the beginning of a move but still want a good
low risk entry point.

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From: "tom worley" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:00:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HI. =)

Welcome Bob, and congratulations on having already started an IRA at
19. Youth is not an obstacle in investing, and sometimes even an
advantage cuz you may have a more open mind. Many investors didn't
start learning about investing until much later, and you have the
advantage of time on your side so that you can go for growth stocks
(which is after all what CANSLIIM is all about).
Hope you enjoy the group.

tom w
- ----------
> From: Bob Smith <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: [CANSLIM] HI. =)
> Date: Sunday, February 02, 1997 2:52 PM
>
> Hi. My name is Ty. I just turned 19.  I've been following the
market for
> about 3 years now.  It's been quite a ride.  Like all of you, i
base many
> of my investment decisions on the CANSLIM criteria.   But, I find
myself
> breaking the rules here and there, for how can one be so
conservative at
> such young an age? To be honest, I base most of my decisions on
charts.
> I use my IRA to invest. I currently have around 13K to play with.
I
>

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From: "tom worley" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:54:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SMTC

Be careful with cups that took 11 months to form, likewise with
handles only 3 weeks old. This is a very general comment cuz I
haven't looked at a DG on it, altho I do know the chip group is
starting to improve and should continue for some time. VTSS is one I
have watched do very well, with new highs again last week.

tom w
- ----------
> From: Johan Van Houtven <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SMTC
> Date: Sunday, February 02, 1997 12:16 PM
>
> On the chart you can see a cup formation. The edges of the cup are:
on the
> left February 1996 (26 - 24) and on the right January 1997 (24 - 25
5/8).
>
> If the formation from 11 January to 31 January 1997 can be called a
handle,


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From: "John Iding" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:21:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HI. =)

Great to see someone at 19 working the numbers and planning for the future
.. more power to you ... John

- ----------
> From: Bob Smith <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: [CANSLIM] HI. =)
> Date: Sunday, February 02, 1997 11:52 AM
>
> Hi. My name is Ty. I just turned 19.  I've been following the market for


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From: "Richard S." <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:09:01 -0600
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HI. =)

This is a little confusing.  Are you Ty or Bob Smith ???  :)

<<  Richard S.  >>


:
: ----------
: > From: Bob Smith <[e-mail]>
: > To: [e-mail]
: > Cc: [e-mail]
: > Subject: [CANSLIM] HI. =)
: > Date: Sunday, February 02, 1997 11:52 AM
: >
: > Hi. My name is Ty. I just turned 19.  I've been following the
market for
:

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From: "Mike Artobello" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:44:52 -0800
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Daily Graphs

Craig,

Wow! Great writeup. Thanks for taking the time to respond in such
detail.

And thanks to Tom for the clarifications.

If this is typical of the posts on this mailing list, then I'm glad I
joined. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute as well, once I get going
with Canslim.






Regards,

Mike
- -----------------------------------------------------------
Mike Artobello
[e-mail]
http://www.ccnet.com/~marto/
- -----------------------------------------------------------


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 09:48:50 EST
Subject: [CANSLIM] =)

I've always told myself never to buy in the morning. There is too much
emotion. But, with such a fickle mind, i went on ahead and jumped in.
6:35 AM 2/3/97...in GSNX @ 18 1/8.....i have a feeling i'm going to lose
my shirt and learn a lesson this time around.

Sincerely,

Ty

P.S. How in the world did Juno come up with Bob Smith? I'll need to
change that. =)

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From: "Jay Cliburn" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:47:40 -0700
Subject: [CANSLIM] BUS

Someone here on the list mentioned Greyhound as a potential
CANSLIM play.  While poking around at Barron's Online (www.
barrons.com), I ran across a 13D filing that indicates that
Connor Clark Ltd. and others have dumped 382,235 shares of
Greyhound from November 12, 1995 through January 6, 1997.

Thought you might want to know...
- --
Jay Cliburn                      |  Space Dynamics Laboratory
Computational Sciences Division  |  1747 North Research Park Way
[e-mail]          |  Logan, Utah, USA 84341
[phone] (voice)           |  [phone] (fax)

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From: "David F. Cameron" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 9:13:32 CST
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Darvas' book

Zoran wrote,
>
> This sunny Sunday noon I just finished a great book I started
> reading few days ago:
> "How I Made $2,000,000 in the Stock Market" by Nicolas Darvas.
>
I second this recommendation.   In fact, at the IBD Web Site,
the last page in the education section gives this book as an
O'Neil recommendation (among others).   If you haven't done
so... I'd recommend checking out that page and seeing which
books O'Neil recommends (provided you've read his book first!).

Dave Cameron
[e-mail]

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From: "David F. Cameron" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 9:22:28 CST
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HI. =)

>
> Hi. My name is Ty. I just turned 19.  I've been following the market for
> about 3 years now.  It's been quite a ride.  Like all of you, i base many
> of my investment decisions on the CANSLIM criteria.   But, I find myself
> breaking the rules here and there, for how can one be so conservative at
> such young an age? To be honest, I base most of my decisions on charts.
> I use my IRA to invest. I currently have around 13K to play with.   I

This is great... can I start over and have 13K at age 19  ;-)
<snip>

> at the chart and you'll see something interesting.  At it's high, there
> are approximately 2.6 million shares stuck there. ( No ones going to sell
> a quality company at a loss.)  It then went on to consolidate around 4

I don't know if I'd assume THAT - people get impatient and sell quality
companies at a loss if they sit at a loss for a while.

> pts..  And, it's now filling in that gap on increasing volume.  I see 20
> soon.  I'm also watching others such as FPWR ACRT SFAM etc. , but i'll
> tell you guys when I buy them, if you care i mean. Wish me Luck. =)
>
> Ty

You sound like you have good rationale for thinking these things
through.... I, for one, would welcome being informed on your buys
& sells as long as you let us know what drives your decisions.
>
>

Dave Cameron
[e-mail]

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