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From: Warren Keuffel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA
Date: 01 Nov 2002 08:51:31 -0700

I rely heavily on it, and am continually learning more. I'm not a pure
technician but I do try to make sure that any stocks that make it past my
fundamentals screen also meet various technical screens.

Warren

[e-mail] wrote:

> I was wondering, by a show of hands, how many of the group members use some
> other form of technical analysis besides the price volume chart action
> described by WON .
> Since the chart reading can be very subjective, do any of you use MACD
> cross overs, or Point and figure charts to confirm a breakout, or possible
> sell sign for a stock?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Niemotka , PE
> Sr. Principal Engineer
> Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> Route 120 & Wilson Road
> Round Lake, IL 60073
> Tel [phone]
> Fax [phone]
> [e-mail]
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From: "inderjit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Charts for CANSLIMers
Date: 01 Nov 2002 11:36:39 -0500

Hello Mike:

Your link http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/canslimchart.php does not seem
to be clickable any more. Please guide. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 5:28 AM

Thanks to Duke and everyone else for the kind words -- for all our sakes
I
hope the market turns around soon, although I see no prospect of it on
the
horizon.

Unfortunately, the server is off-line today with a technical glitch not
related to charting in any way. I'll let you know when its back.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Duke Miller
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 5:15 PM


Mike...

How utterly cool.  When M turns, I and everyone else on this board
promise to subscribe to your pay service.  Right guys?!

Duke

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:49 PM


Hi Everyone,

When Katherine was warned off using DGO charts to illustrate the finer
points of chart analysis, I offered to provide a somewhat equivalent
charting service, and I'm pleased to say that she took up my offer and
added a few new wrinkles of her own. The results can be seen at
http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/canslimchart.php. You will see that you
can now obtain a composite chart of daily prices, volumes, 50 and 200
day moving averages, Comparative RS against the S&P, RS Rank against all
other NYSE, NASDAQ and AmEx stocks, and the Up/Down Volume Ratio. The RS
Rank and Up/Down Volume Charts are color coded into bands representing
'OK', 'Caution' and 'Laggard'.

For now, only daily, not weekly, price and volume charts are available,
although I intened to add that feature later. Also RS Rank and Up/Down
Volume are only available back to Jan, 2002.

My thanks to Katherine for her suggestions, and I hope you find these
charts useful.

As always, your comments and suggestions are most welcome.

PS. There is no restriction on fair use reproduction of these charts, as
long as the copyright remains intact.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Fred Richards
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:57 AM


The NIKKEI ended up down 3.6% at the close and the slide continues in
Europe although not quite as bad.

The financial sector is getting hit pretty good. Does not look too good
for the U.S. markets today unless the Working Group on Financial Markets
commits a lot of money.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:09 PM


The NIKKEI is crashing hard on the open on fears of the effects of
cleaning up the bad dept problems of their banks. Down 2.9% already,
biggest losers are the weaker banks, and their weakest borrowers, either
of which may be forced out of business.

Tom Worley
[e-mail]
AIM: TexWorley



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From: "Mike Gibbons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Charts for CANSLIMers
Date: 01 Nov 2002 08:59:15 -1000

Hello Inderjit,

Sorry to be so late with a response - we're 5 hours behind over here.

I changed the name of the chart routine to avoid possible problems with The
WON Companies and renamed it, kmchart.php in honor of Katherine's appeal for
a replacement for DGO that she she could use in her postings to this board.
I did post a corrected link but you must have missed it. The link is
http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php.

Since I last posted the link, I've made some more improvements to the
charts. They now show intermediate high/low values and the last price within
20 minutes (previously it was just to previous day's close).

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of inderjit
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 6:37 AM


Hello Mike:

Your link http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/canslimchart.php does not seem
to be clickable any more. Please guide. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 5:28 AM

Thanks to Duke and everyone else for the kind words -- for all our sakes
I
hope the market turns around soon, although I see no prospect of it on
the
horizon.

Unfortunately, the server is off-line today with a technical glitch not
related to charting in any way. I'll let you know when its back.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Duke Miller
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 5:15 PM


Mike...

How utterly cool.  When M turns, I and everyone else on this board
promise to subscribe to your pay service.  Right guys?!

Duke

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:49 PM


Hi Everyone,

When Katherine was warned off using DGO charts to illustrate the finer
points of chart analysis, I offered to provide a somewhat equivalent
charting service, and I'm pleased to say that she took up my offer and
added a few new wrinkles of her own. The results can be seen at
http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/canslimchart.php. You will see that you
can now obtain a composite chart of daily prices, volumes, 50 and 200
day moving averages, Comparative RS against the S&P, RS Rank against all
other NYSE, NASDAQ and AmEx stocks, and the Up/Down Volume Ratio. The RS
Rank and Up/Down Volume Charts are color coded into bands representing
'OK', 'Caution' and 'Laggard'.

For now, only daily, not weekly, price and volume charts are available,
although I intened to add that feature later. Also RS Rank and Up/Down
Volume are only available back to Jan, 2002.

My thanks to Katherine for her suggestions, and I hope you find these
charts useful.

As always, your comments and suggestions are most welcome.

PS. There is no restriction on fair use reproduction of these charts, as
long as the copyright remains intact.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Fred Richards
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:57 AM


The NIKKEI ended up down 3.6% at the close and the slide continues in
Europe although not quite as bad.

The financial sector is getting hit pretty good. Does not look too good
for the U.S. markets today unless the Working Group on Financial Markets
commits a lot of money.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:09 PM


The NIKKEI is crashing hard on the open on fears of the effects of
cleaning up the bad dept problems of their banks. Down 2.9% already,
biggest losers are the weaker banks, and their weakest borrowers, either
of which may be forced out of business.

Tom Worley
[e-mail]
AIM: TexWorley



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From: "David Bojanowski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA
Date: 01 Nov 2002 14:10:50 -0500

I like MACD.  Check out "Trading for a Living" by Alexander Elder for more
info.  Great book, a bit technical (no pun intended).  The title is a bit
misleading, its not geared towards daytraders.


>From: [e-mail]
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:04:45 -0600
>
>I was wondering, by a show of hands, how many of the group members use some
>other form of technical analysis besides the price volume chart action
>described by WON .
>Since the chart reading can be very subjective, do any of you use MACD
>cross overs, or Point and figure charts to confirm a breakout, or possible
>sell sign for a stock?
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike
>


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From: Fred Winkle <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Charts
Date: 01 Nov 2002 13:46:04 -0600

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Mike, I'm a brand spanking new member and don't get a chart of KM =
(KMart) when I click this link =
http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php. I get a blank screen and =
then get the chart when I put KM in the box. Is this correct or do I =
have a problem with my setup?

Thanks, Fred
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Mike, I'm a brand spanking new member and don't =
get a=20
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href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php"><FONT=20
face=3DArial>http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php</FONT></A><FONT =

face=3DArial>. I get a blank screen and then get the chart when I =
put KM in=20
the box. Is this correct or do I have a problem with my =
setup?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks, Fred</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From: "Mike Gibbons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Charts
Date: 01 Nov 2002 09:55:23 -1000

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Hi Fred,

I Like your sense of humor.

For others that don't get it, the km refers to Kathrine Malm, and kmchart.php is the chart generation program.

You can also get the same charts at http://www.cwhcharts.com and enter a symbol in the top rh corner.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com
  -----Original Message-----
  From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Fred Winkle
  Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:46 AM
  To: [e-mail]
  Subject: [CANSLIM] Charts


  Mike, I'm a brand spanking new member and don't get a chart of KM (KMart) when I click this link
http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php. I get a blank screen and then get the chart when I put KM in the box. Is this correct
or do I have a problem with my setup?

  Thanks, Fred

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Fred,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2>I=20
Like your sense of humor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2>For=20
others that don't get it, the km refers to Kathrine Malm, and =
kmchart.php=20
is the chart generation program.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2>You=20
can also get the same charts at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com">http://www.cwhcharts.com</A> and =
enter a=20
symbol in the top rh corner.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Aloha,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Mike =
Gibbons</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Proactive =
Technologies,=20
LLC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080=20
size=3D2>http://www.proactech.com</FONT></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
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  [e-mail]=20
  [mailto:[e-mail]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Fred=20
  Winkle<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 01, 2002 9:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =

  [e-mail]<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM]=20
  Charts<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Mike, I'm a brand spanking new member and =
don't get a=20
  chart of KM (KMart) when I click this link </FONT><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php"><FONT=20
  =
face=3DArial>http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php</FONT></A><FONT =

  face=3DArial>. I get a blank screen and then get the chart when I =
put KM in=20
  the box. Is this correct or do I have a problem with my =
setup?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks, =
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From: "Patrick Wahl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] my first charts
Date: 01 Nov 2002 13:05:41 -0700

Of the stocks listed, I like these two best, PPDI could also be considered
to be forming a flag, I think, a good continuation pattern.  SHFL as you
said is forming the handle part after making a nice cup.  SHFL a little
choppy in the early part of this handle, would be nice to see it flatten out
for a week or so.

On 31 Oct 2002 at 13:06, Robin Gridley wrote:

> PPDI
> Cup consolidating into handle? Fundamentals look good to me except
> that pesky group RS thing again (34%) Should that be enough to knock
> out a stock that is otherwise A/B/A, EPS 99% and a 32% growth rate?
>
> SHFL
> Cup making handle. A/A/A, 91EPS and RS95. Group RS 80. But management
> only owns 4%.



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From: Fred Winkle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Charts
Date: 01 Nov 2002 15:15:39 -0600

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Mike, must be an inside joke, but it looks like that I was on the right =
side of it. I didn't know that the chart was one of your staff.=20

The new link works. While there I found your 7-day trial and I'll sign =
up shortly. I want to buy TECH and am trying to find an entry point =
lower than 36. (34?)

Thanks, Fred



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  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:55 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Charts


  Hi Fred,

  I Like your sense of humor.

  For others that don't get it, the km refers to Kathrine Malm, and =
kmchart.php is the chart generation program.

  You can also get the same charts at http://www.cwhcharts.com and enter =
a symbol in the top rh corner.

  Aloha,

  Mike Gibbons
  Proactive Technologies, LLC
  http://www.proactech.com
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Fred Winkle
    Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:46 AM
    To: [e-mail]
    Subject: [CANSLIM] Charts


    Mike, I'm a brand spanking new member and don't get a chart of KM =
(KMart) when I click this link =
http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php. I get a blank screen and =
then get the chart when I put KM in the box. Is this correct or do I =
have a problem with my setup?

    Thanks, Fred
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like that I was on the right side of it. I didn't know that the =
chart was=20
one of your staff. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The new link works. While there I found =
your 7-day=20
trial and I'll sign up shortly. I want to buy TECH and am trying to =
find an=20
entry point lower than 36. (34?)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks, Fred</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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1:55=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
Charts</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Hi=20
  Fred,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2>I=20
  Like your sense of humor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2>For=20
  others that don't get it, the km refers to Kathrine Malm, and =
kmchart.php=20
  is the chart generation program.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D206055219-01112002><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2>You=20
  can also get the same charts at <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com">http://www.cwhcharts.com</A> and =
enter a=20
  symbol in the top rh corner.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Aloha,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Mike =
Gibbons</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Proactive =
Technologies,=20
  LLC</FONT></DIV>
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    Winkle<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 01, 2002 9:46 =
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 02 Nov 2002 18:45:58 -0500

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JAPAN
After weeks of waiting, the highly touted plan to reform the banks, and =
bring an eventual end to the combination of recession and deflation, was =
trotted out. Unfortunately, Japan remains a toothless tiger, and will =
continue to drag on the world's economy for years to come. The Nikkei =
had been sagging, and threatening once again to fall under 8,000, as =
banks feared that Takenaka would deliver a strong and strict reform plan =
with full govt backing. Then, as it became obvious that he was running =
into political opposition from his own party's old guard, the markets =
rallied, and even briefly climbed over 9,000. The plan as delivered is =
so watered down that it pleases no one, nor appears to change much at =
all from the present. The plans to accelerate write offs of bad loans =
now looks like it will not actually speed up the process, and will take =
until 2004 or 2005 at least, and that's assuming they stop adding new =
defaulted loans as fast as they write off others, which has been the =
pattern for several years. The expectation that banks would be required =
to adhere to strict int'l accounting standards in identifying =
non-performing loans (which could triple the volume of bad loans from =
the official level of about $400 billion to well over $1.2 trillion) =
became instead mere guidance and encouragement. And the most =
controversial element, that of eliminating by March 2003 the legal use =
of the "expectation" of a future tax refund (resulting from writing off =
bad loans also in the future) as part of the bank's current required =
capital reserve, was essentially eliminated entirely. This was =
significant, since this would likely have put half the banks below =
required minimum capital requirements. New rules were established to =
require greater capital reserves on new loans that is more risk related, =
however it is expected that this will simply mean less capital available =
to small businesses. And to make matters worse, while Japan wallows in =
debt (135% of GDP, worst industrialized nation in the world, $5.3 =
trillion), there are calls for tax cuts even while the collection of =
taxes falls well under the level needed by the govt. As of August, tax =
collection was running 19% under last year with only 23% of the full =
year target collected with 40% of the year already gone. The govt is =
pledged to "only" add a further 30 trillion yen in new debt to its load =
this year, but if this loss of tax revenue due to the dismal economy =
persists, it alone could increase this figure another 6 or 7 trillion =
yen. Any supplemental budget to either pump more money into the economy, =
or to infuse fresh cash into failing banks, or more tax cuts, will =
additionally increase the Japanese national debt. The Japanese banking =
system, and economy, remains on the path to total meltdown and collapse. =
This was Prime Minister Koizumi's best, and perhaps last, chance to make =
a difference, and it didn't happen. The only hope now is that the global =
economy can recover so quickly and strongly that it can drag Japan's =
export based economy back into being a powerful engine of the world =
economy. That doesn't look likely to happen either, especially with =
Japan having to be carried on the backs of other nations.
-------

"M"
While we somehow managed to hold on and get our fourth week of gains on =
every major index, this rally continues to look tired. It still is not =
clear to me if we are trying to do the second leg up of a double bottom =
"W" formation, or are stagnating in the right shoulder of a head and =
shoulders pattern. Volume remains boring, hovering around average. =
Volatility has dropped, as had VIX. We survived the earnings reporting =
cycle without significant damage, and even got a few decent forward =
looking forecasts. Several indexes (Russell 2000, Naz 100, Naz =
Composite) are beginning to look more like continuing the rally while =
the rest appear to be stagnating in the h&s pattern. Only time will tell =
which will win out. I remain fully in cash in my margin acct, but did go =
so far as to get preclearance for buys of up to about a dozen tech =
stocks, just haven't executed any yet. Elections on Tuesday, and the =
Feds meeting on Tue and Wed, will likely affect the markets early in the =
week. And the only question with the Feds appears to be whether the long =
awaited cut will be 25 BP or 50. A quarter point cut is already priced =
into the Treasuries, so anything less will be a blow to the markets (my =
bet is on 25 BP). Consumer spending and sentiment is the worst so far =
this year. Significant economic and corporate profit recovery appears =
now to have been postponed from the second half of this year until at =
least mid year 2003. While it may make some sense to nibble around the =
edges, and take some small or partial positions, "M" has still not =
clearly spoken, so keep your powder dry and your cash safe.
-------

ECONOMICS
The steady rise in gas prices finally slowed last week, amid most major =
oil companies reporting lousy earnings for Q3. Where is all the money =
going? Crude has been steadily dropping as part of the Iraqi War Premium =
is stripped out, gas pump prices nonetheless went up, and oil company =
profits are falling. What am I missing? Is it just a lack of product =
volume sales?

Chain store sales rose 1.4% during the first 3 weeks of October compared =
to September, attributed to cooler weather.

The Conference Board reported that consumer confidence fell off the =
cliff in October, dropping to 79.4 from September's 93.7. Fifth straight =
monthly decline, well under expectations of 90, lowest since Nov 1993. =
Also biggest month to month decline since 9/11.

Employment Cost Index rose by 0.8% during Q3, below expectations of =
1.0%, as businesses delayed or cancelled wage, salary or benefits =
increases. Wages and salaries combined only grew by 0.5%, smallest =
increase since Q1 1999.

Weekly unemployment reports continue to paint a picture of a stagnant =
labor market, new claims rising to 410,000, above expectations of 399K. =
Workers continuing on unemployment increased 76K to 3.6 million. That's =
a LOT of people out of work as Christmas approaches. Ouch!!

Good news, bad news. The preliminary Q3 report of GDP shows a rise to =
3.1%, well above Q2's anemic 1.3%, but also well under expectations of =
3.6%. Consumer spending drove the numbers, up 4.2%, but much of that may =
have been early in the quarter, especially on new autos (durable goods =
including cars was up 22.7%) which appears to have topped out. One =
hopeful sign was business spending on equipment and software, rising at =
a 6.5% rate and strongest since Q2 2000 (remember the tech bubble??). =
CPI was up a lethargic 1.4%, so inflation remains a non-event, much less =
a threat.

In a prelude to the nat'l survey, the Chicago Assn of Purchasing =
Managers index fell further and faster in October, down to 45.9 from =
48.1 in Sept. Expectations were for 49, so contraction was not only =
expected, it was worse than expected by a wide margin. The employment =
component of this index fell to 41.6 from 46.6, but prices paid rose to =
62.0 from 57.6.

Paralleling the Chicago report, the national report from ISM came in =
with a decline to 48.5% in October, down a full percent from September =
and below expectations of 48.9%. The employment component rose to 45 =
from 44.9, so got worse at a slightly marginally slower rate. On a =
positive note, the new orders component rose to 50.9 from 50.2, second =
monthly rise and keeping alive hopes for future improvements.

US Dollar remains top of the pile, despite accounting scandals, severe =
drops in the US markets, poor corporate earnings, fear of recession or =
war with Iraq, etc. The US dollar is off 12% against the Euro so far =
this year, and 7% against the yen. But the dollar still beats both over =
the past 4 years. The S&P500 is down 22% for the year, but France's =
CAC40 is down 26.6% and Germany's DAX is down 33.3%, and who's still =
counting the NIKKEI as it battles 19 year lows?

Consumer spending dropped 0.4% in September, largest decline in 10 =
months. Consumer income rose by the same 0.4%. Both were weaker than =
expectations of a negative 0.2% and a positive 0.5% respectively.

The Longshoremen's Union and the Pacific Maritime Assn have apparently =
reached a tentative agreement over implementation of technology. While =
details are not out, maybe now productively can at least return to prior =
levels, if not exceed that.

Construction spending remains strong, up 0.6% in September, and =
reversing a four month decline. But its all concentrated in residential =
housing. Nonresidential construction fell to more than a six year low. =
Expectations were for an overall 0.2% improvement.

Overall unemployment rose slightly to 5.7% instead of the expected 5.8%. =
Businesses cut 5,000 jobs in line with expectations of unchanged, with =
service jobs again increasing while manufacturing jobs declining. =
Personal savings rate also increased to 4.2% from 3.4%. Visa, Master =
Charge and American Express better watch out, people might actually =
start paying off their credit card balances instead of running them =
higher.

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WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20
This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It =
is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's =
"M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with =
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from =
(and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in =
Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is =
strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views =
or opinions of my employer.

I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, =
and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout =
scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, =
focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all =
industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my =
personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast =
for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no =
due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM =
patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases =
(shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR =
(Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM =
pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my =
personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any =
stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest.

The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend is stable to =
slightly improving.

CAH - 2nd handle?
CCCG - B3
CHCO - LLUR
CHS - c&h?
CPKI - high handle
FESX - B5
GDW -  double bottom
IDXC - cup w/o handle
KSWS - c&h
MVL - c&h
PCLE - c&h
PFGC - c&h
RKY - c&h
SHFL - c&h
STN - b/o Wed on over 3X ADV, within 5% of pivot
SYMC - stealth b/o from the handle on below avg volume
TSCO - b/o Friday on 2.5X ADV from a B3+

Happy hunting, and good luck,


Tom Worley
[e-mail]
AIM: TexWorley
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>After weeks of waiting, the highly touted plan =
to reform=20
the banks, and bring an eventual end to the combination of recession and =

deflation, was trotted out. Unfortunately, Japan remains a toothless =
tiger, and=20
will continue to drag on the world's economy for years to come. The =
Nikkei had=20
been sagging, and threatening once again to fall under 8,000, as banks =
feared=20
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govt=20
backing. Then, as it became obvious that he was running into political=20
opposition from his own party's old guard, the markets rallied, and even =
briefly=20
climbed over 9,000. The plan as delivered is so watered down that it =
pleases no=20
one, nor appears to change much at all from the present. The plans to =
accelerate=20
write offs of bad loans now looks like it will not actually speed up the =

process, and will take until 2004 or 2005 at least, and that's assuming =
they=20
stop adding new defaulted loans as fast as they write off others, which =
has been=20
the pattern for several years. The expectation that banks would be =
required to=20
adhere to strict int'l accounting standards in identifying =
non-performing loans=20
(which could triple the volume of bad loans from the official level of =
about=20
$400 billion to well over $1.2 trillion) became instead mere guidance =
and=20
encouragement. And the most controversial element, that of eliminating =
by March=20
2003 the legal use of the "expectation" of a future tax refund =
(resulting from=20
writing off bad loans also in the future) as part of the bank's =
current=20
required capital reserve, was essentially eliminated entirely. This was=20
significant, since this would likely have put half the banks below =
required=20
minimum capital requirements. New rules were established to require =
greater=20
capital reserves on new loans that is more risk related, however it is =
expected=20
that this will simply mean less capital available to small businesses. =
And to=20
make matters worse, while Japan wallows in debt (135% of GDP, worst=20
industrialized nation in the world, $5.3 trillion), there are calls for =
tax cuts=20
even while the collection of taxes falls well under the level needed by =
the=20
govt. As of August, tax collection was running 19% under last year with =
only 23%=20
of the full year target collected with 40% of the year already gone. The =
govt is=20
pledged to "only" add a further 30 trillion yen in new debt to its load =
this=20
year, but if this loss of tax revenue due to the dismal economy =
persists, it=20
alone could increase this figure another 6 or 7 trillion yen. Any =
supplemental=20
budget to either pump more money into the economy, or to infuse fresh =
cash into=20
failing banks, or more tax cuts, will additionally increase the Japanese =

national debt. The Japanese banking system, and economy, remains on the =
path to=20
total meltdown and collapse. This was Prime Minister Koizumi's best, and =
perhaps=20
last, chance to make a difference, and it didn't happen. The only hope =
now is=20
that the global economy can recover so quickly and strongly that it can =
drag=20
Japan's export based economy back into being a powerful engine of the =
world=20
economy. That doesn't look likely to happen either, especially with =
Japan having=20
to be carried on the backs of other nations.
<HR>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>"M"</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>While we somehow managed to hold on and get our =
fourth=20
week of gains on every major index, this rally continues to look tired. =
It still=20
is not clear to me if we are trying to do the second leg up of a double =
bottom=20
"W" formation, or are stagnating in the right shoulder of a head and =
shoulders=20
pattern. Volume remains boring, hovering around average. Volatility has =
dropped,=20
as had VIX. We survived the earnings reporting cycle without significant =
damage,=20
and even got a few decent forward looking forecasts. Several indexes =
(Russell=20
2000, Naz 100, Naz Composite) are beginning to look more like continuing =
the=20
rally while the rest appear to be stagnating in the h&s pattern. =
Only time=20
will tell which will win out. I remain fully in cash in my margin acct, =
but did=20
go so far as to get preclearance for buys of up to about a dozen tech =
stocks,=20
just haven't executed any yet. Elections on Tuesday, and the Feds =
meeting on Tue=20
and Wed, will likely affect the markets early in the week. And the only =
question=20
with the Feds appears to be whether the long awaited cut will be 25 BP =
or 50. A=20
quarter point cut is already priced into the Treasuries, so anything =
less will=20
be a blow to the markets (my bet is on 25 BP). Consumer spending and =
sentiment=20
is the worst so far this year. Significant economic and corporate profit =

recovery appears now to have been postponed from the second half of this =
year=20
until at least mid year 2003. While it may make some sense to nibble =
around the=20
edges, and take some small or partial positions, "M" has still not =
clearly=20
spoken, so keep your powder dry and your cash safe.
<HR>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>ECONOMICS</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The steady rise in gas prices finally slowed =
last week,=20
amid most major oil companies reporting lousy earnings for Q3. Where is =
all the=20
money going? Crude has been steadily dropping as part of the Iraqi War =
Premium=20
is stripped out, gas pump prices nonetheless went up, and oil company =
profits=20
are falling. What am I missing? Is it just a lack of product volume=20
sales?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Chain store sales rose 1.4% during the first 3 =
weeks of=20
October compared to September, attributed to cooler =
weather.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The Conference Board reported that consumer =
confidence=20
fell off the cliff in October, dropping to 79.4 from September's 93.7. =
Fifth=20
straight monthly decline, well under expectations of 90, lowest since =
Nov 1993.=20
Also biggest month to month decline since 9/11.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Employment Cost Index rose by 0.8% during Q3, =
below=20
expectations of 1.0%, as businesses delayed or cancelled wage, salary or =

benefits increases. Wages and salaries combined only grew by 0.5%, =
smallest=20
increase since Q1 1999.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Weekly unemployment reports continue to paint a =
picture of=20
a stagnant labor market, new claims rising to 410,000, above =
expectations of=20
399K. Workers continuing on unemployment increased 76K to 3.6 million. =
That's a=20
LOT of people out of work as Christmas approaches. Ouch!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Good news, bad news. The preliminary Q3 report =
of GDP=20
shows a rise to 3.1%, well above Q2's anemic 1.3%, but also well under=20
expectations of 3.6%. Consumer spending drove the numbers, up 4.2%, but =
much of=20
that may have been early in the quarter, especially on new autos =
(durable goods=20
including cars was up 22.7%) which appears to have topped out. One =
hopeful sign=20
was business spending on equipment and software, rising at a 6.5% rate =
and=20
strongest since Q2 2000 (remember the tech bubble??). CPI was up a =
lethargic=20
1.4%, so inflation remains a non-event, much less a threat.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>In a prelude to the nat'l survey, the Chicago =
Assn of=20
Purchasing Managers index fell further and faster in October, down to =
45.9 from=20
48.1 in Sept. Expectations were for 49, so contraction was not only =
expected, it=20
was worse than expected by a wide margin. The employment component of =
this index=20
fell to 41.6 from 46.6, but prices paid rose to 62.0 from =
57.6.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Paralleling the Chicago report, the national =
report from=20
ISM came in with a decline to 48.5% in October, down a full percent from =

September and below expectations of 48.9%. The employment component rose =
to 45=20
from 44.9, so got worse at a slightly marginally slower rate. On a =
positive=20
note, the new orders component rose to 50.9 from 50.2, second monthly =
rise and=20
keeping alive hopes for future improvements.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>US Dollar remains top of the pile, despite =
accounting=20
scandals, severe drops in the US markets, poor corporate earnings, fear =
of=20
recession or war with Iraq, etc. The US dollar is off 12% against the =
Euro so=20
far this year, and 7% against the yen. But the dollar still beats both =
over the=20
past 4 years. The S&P500 is down 22% for the year, but France's =
CAC40 is=20
down 26.6% and Germany's DAX is down 33.3%, and who's still counting the =
NIKKEI=20
as it battles 19 year lows?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Consumer spending dropped 0.4% in September, =
largest=20
decline in 10 months. Consumer income rose by the same 0.4%. Both were =
weaker=20
than expectations of a negative 0.2% and a positive 0.5%=20
respectively.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The Longshoremen's Union and the Pacific =
Maritime Assn=20
have apparently reached a tentative agreement over implementation of =
technology.=20
While details are not out, maybe now productively can at least return to =
prior=20
levels, if not exceed that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Construction spending remains strong, up 0.6% in =

September, and reversing a four month decline. But its all concentrated =
in=20
residential housing. Nonresidential construction fell to more than a six =
year=20
low. Expectations were for an overall 0.2% improvement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Overall unemployment rose slightly to 5.7% =
instead of the=20
expected 5.8%. Businesses cut 5,000 jobs in line with expectations of =
unchanged,=20
with service jobs again increasing while manufacturing jobs declining. =
Personal=20
savings rate also increased to 4.2% from 3.4%. Visa, Master Charge and =
American=20
Express better watch out, people might actually start paying off their =
credit=20
card balances instead of running them higher.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>
<HR>
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES</STRONG><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"> =
</FONT>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This list is in no way intended to recommend any =
stocks to=20
the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health =
of=20
CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some =
stocks=20
with constructive chart patterns that may be worth <STRONG><FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000>WATCHING</FONT> and learning from</STRONG> (and of =
course doing=20
your own due diligence). <FONT color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>I am employed =
in=20
Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is =
strictly=20
my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or =
opinions of=20
my employer.</EM></STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS =
ranking of 80=20
or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition =
/=20
buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet =
this general RS/EPS=20
criteria, focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I =
consider all=20
industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my =
personal=20
investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings =
forecast=20
for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. <FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000>I do no due diligence, that is your =
responsibility</FONT>. I will=20
note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) =
bottoms, or=20
flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also =
note LLUR=20
(Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM =
pattern. Rarely=20
are any of these stocks of interest to me for my personal investing due =
size,=20
price or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a =
current=20
personal financial interest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The population of stocks I am reviewing this =
weekend is=20
stable to slightly improving.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>CAH - 2nd handle?</DIV>
<DIV>CCCG - B3</DIV>
<DIV>CHCO - LLUR</DIV>
<DIV>CHS - c&h?</DIV>
<DIV>CPKI - high handle</DIV>
<DIV>FESX - B5</DIV>
<DIV>GDW -  double bottom</DIV>
<DIV>IDXC - cup w/o handle</DIV>
<DIV>KSWS - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>MVL - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>PCLE - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>PFGC - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>RKY - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>SHFL - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>STN - b/o Wed on over 3X ADV, within 5% of pivot</DIV>
<DIV>SYMC - stealth b/o from the handle on below avg volume</DIV>
<DIV>TSCO - b/o Friday on 2.5X ADV from a B3+</DIV>
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From: "John Solarno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA
Date: 02 Nov 2002 19:20:39 -0500

I personally rely on the MACD histogram. I maintain a database of stocks
gleaned from various sources (IBD, VectorVest.)  As soon as I see any
stock cross the zero line headed upwards, I pay VERY close attention for
the next day or two and if it continues to climb with strong volume, I'm
in. Conversely, as soon as the histogram starts heading back down
towards zero, I unload.

I have never managed to get the hang of the cup-with-handle formation.
I don't have the mental discipline, I fear, for calculating pivot points
and base depths.  Don't misunderstand, I still look for those illusive
cups, but I find a MACD histogram is easier to spot and, therefore,
something I use more frequently.

John

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:05 PM

I was wondering, by a show of hands, how many of the group members use
some
other form of technical analysis besides the price volume chart action
described by WON .
Since the chart reading can be very subjective, do any of you use MACD
cross overs, or Point and figure charts to confirm a breakout, or
possible
sell sign for a stock?

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA
Date: 03 Nov 2002 09:04:39 EST

John -

Using a 20-50 Day MACD   or the 20-100 Day MACD ?

Thanks --paul

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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] GTK
Date: 03 Nov 2002 09:29:01 -0500

Hi Mike,

I had noticed the gaming related groups starting to look better. Volume
would be my primary concern, only avg on Thursday when it broke the flat
base pivot, and half of avg on Friday as it moved higher.

It is not a leader in its group, has high debt, virtually no management
ownership (2%) and funds already own 20%. Insiders were selling eight times
in past year with no buys, but that does not look excessive.

Does appear on track for meeting full year forecasts of $2.21 earnings (up
57%), altho I hate non-standard fiscal years like this one (ends Feb). Both
cash flow and ROE are huge, don't know why it doesn't use some of that cash
flow to either pay off debt or pay a dividend.

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It looks like GTK might be breaking out of a fairly flat handle, but volume
is still not confirming. Anyone have a thoughts one way or the other?

thanks

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] STTX - Too late?
Date: 03 Nov 2002 09:35:33 -0500

Hi Kelly,

This one first popped up on my radar screen under $10, but I couldn't get
excited about it. Have kept shaking my head every time it showed up since.
Even after doubling this year, trailing PE only 14. On the other hand,
current forecasts are for only low double digit earnings growth the next two
years. Based on past two qtrs, these forecasts would seem low, however.

I missed an easy double on this one, because I didn't dig into it and find
out why it was hitting new highs all the time.

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Any thoughts on STTX and whether the train ride is nearly over or if it will
continue its LLUR movement?

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Subject: [CANSLIM] Accessing the discussion canslim archives...
Date: 03 Nov 2002 08:00:00 -0700

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Here are the two ways to access the archives:

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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] my first charts
Date: 03 Nov 2002 10:21:23 -0500

Robin, sorry for the delayed response, my weeks seem only to get longer and
more tiring. And thanks for the intro, wow, a three year lurker finally
coming forward, I think that could be a new record, anyone else want to beat
it??

Some quick comments at least
BSTE - strange chart, kinda a c&h, but a pretty long and drooping handle,
excellent fundies and growth top and bottom line, and forecast to continue
that way for another year. Funds already own 33% however.

EXPD - I like to see at least 20% earnings forecast

FCBP - I don't see this as LLUR, too ranging of a chart.

HLYW - agree on all points, this is the kind of company that benefits both
from the aging population, as well as present economy. Even if the economy
starts to improve, I would think it would help more than hurt

ROOM - on the %age ownership, Management is taken as of the total issue,
while funds and banks are of the float, so the figures cannot be added
together. Yes, the bottom of the cup is deeper than desired, on the other
hand the run up to 70 was from an exaggerated low resulting from 9/11.
Fundies and growth top and bottom are good, altho margins appear volatile
and hard to predict. Ads I have seen on TV look effective, but you can
better judge the marketing effectiveness.

ORLY - look at it on a weekly chart, it is in a steady decline, confirmed by
the trend of both the 50 and 200 dma lines, and now by the RS as well.

PPDI - Group RS improved to 61, so puts it into the bottom of the "B" group,
certainly worth watching for a break over the pivot in the handle

SHFL - Management only owns 4%, but their last four transactions shown were
buys (May - July) and at an excellent price.

UPOX - I am assuming you mean UOPX, Group RS now at 81, so into the low "A"
category, one of the reasons why I disregard group rankings in doing my
screens, I actually like finding pretty charts on companies still in the
Group "E" category.

AMGP - last two quarters poor earnings on higher revenues would kick this
one off my radar immediately, also I don't like companies public for less
than 12 months

Good luck,

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:06 PM


FOA... Thanks for all the input on resources. Was much
appreciated.

I'm listing some charts below that appear to my novice eye
as being of interest. This is only based on what I can see
from the charts (... and I'm not putting ANY of my money
into ANYTHING based on those nascent skills at this point...)
But since there isn't a lot of traffic on the board, I figured
I might as well put them out there if only to get reasons
why they aren't good candidates...

BSTE Biosite
GROUP RS 90, EPS Rank 75 (not great) B/B/A, 31%F/15%M (would
prefer M to be higher) Looks to me like a cup trying to make
a handle. >50%+ on last run. Volume dried up on handle and then
almost hit pivot point.

EXPD Expeditors
Is this a cup? +20% on last advance. 28.3% between L and bottom
of base. EPS 88, RS 86 B/B/A. The Group RS is 50 (Not sure how
much I should care about that...) and Mgmt only owns 5%, with F
at 33%. But it looks to me like it's forming a nice R to the
cup.

FCBP
I think this is an LLUR. Don't know what to do with those yet.
But with Group RS 95, EPS 88, A/B/A, RS of 90, Mgmnt 36% with
continued insider acquisitions I thought it was worth a look.
Now if I can just figure out if that's a really, really, really
long handle.....

HLYW Hollywood Entertainment
A cup that I think is now trying to make a handle. +20% on last
run. Above 200DMA. Volume drying up on handle. Group RS 85, A/A
12%M and 30%F. EPS Rank 80. I think I should like this one.

ROOM Hotels.com
Cup. B/B/A, EPS 96, Growth +166%. Mgmnt 49% & Funds 46%. RS increasing,
59.4% on last major runup. Should I be concerned that base is 49%
below L on cup and Group RS is 53? Also... According the DGO chart
I'm looking at... Funds have 46%, Banks 10%, and Mgmt 49%... Okay,
I know I'm only a marketing guy but doesn't that make the pie a little
too big?

ORLY
I like this one two weeks ago. It had a cup then... I promise... But
what is it now the handle seems to have gone all funky?
Group RS 91,  B/B/A EPS 95

PPDI
Cup consolidating into handle? Fundamentals look good to me except
that pesky group RS thing again (34%) Should that be enough to knock
out a stock that is otherwise A/B/A, EPS 99% and a 32% growth rate?

SHFL
Cup making handle. A/A/A, 91EPS and RS95. Group RS 80. But management
only owns 4%.

UPOX
Cup with handle trying to break pivot. A/A/A 99EPS. RS95 but declining
a little bit. Concerns - Group RS of 53 (DGO should really leave this
number out of their charts... it keeps messing up my otherwise nice
investment options....) and only 2% Management.

AMGP
Cup with handle? Group RS 98, EPS 81, A/B/A F34% M42%, Volume was
declining in handle, good growth, nice run up before L of cup.

Any comments (except 'what are u smoking?') would be very much
appreciated.

And finally... not to be rude, since this is my first real post, a brief
introduction. Been in marketing for 18 years, but have an Economics
and Accounting background. Cut my teeth at Apple Computer
with the launch of the Macintosh. Now with a media wholesaler. My
investing has been limited to watching my Fidelity 401K funds get
smaller. In addition to HTMMIS also read Grahams Value Investing book
and Murphy's Technical Analysis (which I slept through twice and STILL
can't get the study guide questions right....) Have bitten the bullet
and subscribed to IBD, 'though I still prefer WSJ for non-chart content.
I like bicycles, lawn gnomes and long walks on the beach, and have lurked
on this board for almost 3 years now.

Robin





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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
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What is llur b3+ b3 b5

Please advise

Marc
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 11/2/2002 at 6:45 PM Tom Worley wrote:
JAPAN
After weeks of waiting, the highly touted plan to reform the banks, and=
 bring an eventual end to the combination of recession and deflation, was=
 trotted out. Unfortunately, Japan remains a toothless tiger, and will=
 continue to drag on the world's economy for years to come. The Nikkei had=
 been sagging, and threatening once again to fall under 8,000, as banks=
 feared that Takenaka would deliver a strong and strict reform plan with=
 full govt backing. Then, as it became obvious that he was running into=
 political opposition from his own party's old guard, the markets rallied,=
 and even briefly climbed over 9,000. The plan as delivered is so watered=
 down that it pleases no one, nor appears to change much at all from the=
 present. The plans to accelerate write offs of bad loans now looks like it=
 will not actually speed up the process, and will take until 2004 or 2005=
 at least, and that's assuming they stop adding new defaulted loans as fast=
 as they write off others, which has been the pattern for several years.=
 The expectation that banks would be required to adhere to strict int'l=
 accounting standards in identifying non-performing loans (which could=
 triple the volume of bad loans from the official level of about $400=
 billion to well over $1.2 trillion) became instead mere guidance and=
 encouragement. And the most controversial element, that of eliminating by=
 March 2003 the legal use of the "expectation" of a future tax refund=
 (resulting from writing off bad loans also in the future) as part of the=
 bank's current required capital reserve, was essentially eliminated=
 entirely. This was significant, since this would likely have put half the=
 banks below required minimum capital requirements. New rules were=
 established to require greater capital reserves on new loans that is more=
 risk related, however it is expected that this will simply mean less=
 capital available to small businesses. And to make matters worse, while=
 Japan wallows in debt (135% of GDP, worst industrialized nation in the=
 world, $5.3 trillion), there are calls for tax cuts even while the=
 collection of taxes falls well under the level needed by the govt. As of=
 August, tax collection was running 19% under last year with only 23% of=
 the full year target collected with 40% of the year already gone. The govt=
 is pledged to "only" add a further 30 trillion yen in new debt to its load=
 this year, but if this loss of tax revenue due to the dismal economy=
 persists, it alone could increase this figure another 6 or 7 trillion yen.=
 Any supplemental budget to either pump more money into the economy, or to=
 infuse fresh cash into failing banks, or more tax cuts, will additionally=
 increase the Japanese national debt. The Japanese banking system, and=
 economy, remains on the path to total meltdown and collapse. This was=
 Prime Minister Koizumi's best, and perhaps last, chance to make a=
 difference, and it didn't happen. The only hope now is that the global=
 economy can recover so quickly and strongly that it can drag Japan's=
 export based economy back into being a powerful engine of the world=
 economy. That doesn't look likely to happen either, especially with Japan=
 having to be carried on the backs of other nations.


"M"
While we somehow managed to hold on and get our fourth week of gains on=
 every major index, this rally continues to look tired. It still is not=
 clear to me if we are trying to do the second leg up of a double bottom=
 "W" formation, or are stagnating in the right shoulder of a head and=
 shoulders pattern. Volume remains boring, hovering around average.=
 Volatility has dropped, as had VIX. We survived the earnings reporting=
 cycle without significant damage, and even got a few decent forward=
 looking forecasts. Several indexes (Russell 2000, Naz 100, Naz Composite)=
 are beginning to look more like continuing the rally while the rest appear=
 to be stagnating in the h&s pattern. Only time will tell which will win=
 out. I remain fully in cash in my margin acct, but did go so far as to get=
 preclearance for buys of up to about a dozen tech stocks, just haven't=
 executed any yet. Elections on Tuesday, and the Feds meeting on Tue and=
 Wed, will likely affect the markets early in the week. And the only=
 question with the Feds appears to be whether the long awaited cut will be=
 25 BP or 50. A quarter point cut is already priced into the Treasuries, so=
 anything less will be a blow to the markets (my bet is on 25 BP). Consumer=
 spending and sentiment is the worst so far this year. Significant economic=
 and corporate profit recovery appears now to have been postponed from the=
 second half of this year until at least mid year 2003. While it may make=
 some sense to nibble around the edges, and take some small or partial=
 positions, "M" has still not clearly spoken, so keep your powder dry and=
 your cash safe.


ECONOMICS
The steady rise in gas prices finally slowed last week, amid most major oil=
 companies reporting lousy earnings for Q3. Where is all the money going?=
 Crude has been steadily dropping as part of the Iraqi War Premium is=
 stripped out, gas pump prices nonetheless went up, and oil company profits=
 are falling. What am I missing? Is it just a lack of product volume sales?

Chain store sales rose 1.4% during the first 3 weeks of October compared to=
 September, attributed to cooler weather.

The Conference Board reported that consumer confidence fell off the cliff=
 in October, dropping to 79.4 from September's 93.7. Fifth straight monthly=
 decline, well under expectations of 90, lowest since Nov 1993. Also=
 biggest month to month decline since 9/11.

Employment Cost Index rose by 0.8% during Q3, below expectations of 1.0%,=
 as businesses delayed or cancelled wage, salary or benefits increases.=
 Wages and salaries combined only grew by 0.5%, smallest increase since Q1=
 1999.

Weekly unemployment reports continue to paint a picture of a stagnant labor=
 market, new claims rising to 410,000, above expectations of 399K. Workers=
 continuing on unemployment increased 76K to 3.6 million. That's a LOT of=
 people out of work as Christmas approaches. Ouch!!

Good news, bad news. The preliminary Q3 report of GDP shows a rise to 3.1%,=
 well above Q2's anemic 1.3%, but also well under expectations of 3.6%.=
 Consumer spending drove the numbers, up 4.2%, but much of that may have=
 been early in the quarter, especially on new autos (durable goods=
 including cars was up 22.7%) which appears to have topped out. One hopeful=
 sign was business spending on equipment and software, rising at a 6.5%=
 rate and strongest since Q2 2000 (remember the tech bubble??). CPI was up=
 a lethargic 1.4%, so inflation remains a non-event, much less a threat.

In a prelude to the nat'l survey, the Chicago Assn of Purchasing Managers=
 index fell further and faster in October, down to 45.9 from 48.1 in Sept.=
 Expectations were for 49, so contraction was not only expected, it was=
 worse than expected by a wide margin. The employment component of this=
 index fell to 41.6 from 46.6, but prices paid rose to 62.0 from 57.6.

Paralleling the Chicago report, the national report from ISM came in with a=
 decline to 48.5% in October, down a full percent from September and below=
 expectations of 48.9%. The employment component rose to 45 from 44.9, so=
 got worse at a slightly marginally slower rate. On a positive note, the=
 new orders component rose to 50.9 from 50.2, second monthly rise and=
 keeping alive hopes for future improvements.

US Dollar remains top of the pile, despite accounting scandals, severe=
 drops in the US markets, poor corporate earnings, fear of recession or war=
 with Iraq, etc. The US dollar is off 12% against the Euro so far this=
 year, and 7% against the yen. But the dollar still beats both over the=
 past 4 years. The S&P500 is down 22% for the year, but France's CAC40 is=
 down 26.6% and Germany's DAX is down 33.3%, and who's still counting the=
 NIKKEI as it battles 19 year lows?

Consumer spending dropped 0.4% in September, largest decline in 10 months.=
 Consumer income rose by the same 0.4%. Both were weaker than expectations=
 of a negative 0.2% and a positive 0.5% respectively.

The Longshoremen's Union and the Pacific Maritime Assn have apparently=
 reached a tentative agreement over implementation of technology. While=
 details are not out, maybe now productively can at least return to prior=
 levels, if not exceed that.

Construction spending remains strong, up 0.6% in September, and reversing a=
 four month decline. But its all concentrated in residential housing.=
 Nonresidential construction fell to more than a six year low. Expectations=
 were for an overall 0.2% improvement.

Overall unemployment rose slightly to 5.7% instead of the expected 5.8%.=
 Businesses cut 5,000 jobs in line with expectations of unchanged, with=
 service jobs again increasing while manufacturing jobs declining. Personal=
 savings rate also increased to 4.2% from 3.4%. Visa, Master Charge and=
 American Express better watch out, people might actually start paying off=
 their credit card balances instead of running them higher.


WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It is=
 a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's "M"=
 and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with=
 constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from=
 (and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in Operations=
 by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is strictly my=
 own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or opinions=
 of my employer.

I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, and=
 try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout=
 scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria,=
 focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all=
 industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my personal=
 investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast for this=
 year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no due=
 diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM patterns I=
 see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases (shown as Bx=
 where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR (Lower Left Upper=
 Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM pattern. Rarely are any of=
 these stocks of interest to me for my personal investing due size, price=
 or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a current=
 personal financial interest.

The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend is stable to slightly=
 improving.

CAH - 2nd handle?
CCCG - B3
CHCO - LLUR
CHS - c&h?
CPKI - high handle
FESX - B5
GDW -  double bottom
IDXC - cup w/o handle
KSWS - c&h
MVL - c&h
PCLE - c&h
PFGC - c&h
RKY - c&h
SHFL - c&h
STN - b/o Wed on over 3X ADV, within 5% of pivot
SYMC - stealth b/o from the handle on below avg volume
TSCO - b/o Friday on 2.5X ADV from a B3+

Happy hunting, and good luck,


Tom Worley
[e-mail]
AIM: TexWorley


Marc Fournier
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<DIV>Marc<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR
***********<BR><BR>On 11/2/2002 at 6:45 PM Tom Worley wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>JAPAN</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>After weeks of waiting, the highly touted plan to reform
  the banks, and bring an eventual end to the combination of recession and
  deflation, was trotted out. Unfortunately, Japan remains a toothless tiger,
  and will continue to drag on the world's economy for years to come. The Nikkei
  had been sagging, and threatening once again to fall under 8,000, as banks
  feared that Takenaka would deliver a strong and strict reform plan with full
  govt backing. Then, as it became obvious that he was running into political
  opposition from his own party's old guard, the markets rallied, and even
  briefly climbed over 9,000. The plan as delivered is so watered down that it
  pleases no one, nor appears to change much at all from the present. The plans
  to accelerate write offs of bad loans now looks like it will not actually
  speed up the process, and will take until 2004 or 2005 at least, and that's
  assuming they stop adding new defaulted loans as fast as they write off
  others, which has been the pattern for several years. The expectation that
  banks would be required to adhere to strict int'l accounting standards in
  identifying non-performing loans (which could triple the volume of bad loans
  from the official level of about $400 billion to well over $1.2 trillion)
  became instead mere guidance and encouragement. And the most controversial
  element, that of eliminating by March 2003 the legal use of the "expectation"
  of a future tax refund (resulting from writing off bad loans also in the
  future) as part of the bank's current required capital reserve, was
  essentially eliminated entirely. This was significant, since this would likely
  have put half the banks below required minimum capital requirements. New rules
  were established to require greater capital reserves on new loans that is more
  risk related, however it is expected that this will simply mean less capital
  available to small businesses. And to make matters worse, while Japan wallows
  in debt (135% of GDP, worst industrialized nation in the world, $5.3
  trillion), there are calls for tax cuts even while the collection of taxes
  falls well under the level needed by the govt. As of August, tax collection
  was running 19% under last year with only 23% of the full year target
  collected with 40% of the year already gone. The govt is pledged to "only" add
  a further 30 trillion yen in new debt to its load this year, but if this loss
  of tax revenue due to the dismal economy persists, it alone could increase
  this figure another 6 or 7 trillion yen. Any supplemental budget to either
  pump more money into the economy, or to infuse fresh cash into failing banks,
  or more tax cuts, will additionally increase the Japanese national debt. The
  Japanese banking system, and economy, remains on the path to total meltdown
  and collapse. This was Prime Minister Koizumi's best, and perhaps last, chance
  to make a difference, and it didn't happen. The only hope now is that the
  global economy can recover so quickly and strongly that it can drag Japan's
  export based economy back into being a powerful engine of the world economy.
  That doesn't look likely to happen either, especially with Japan having to be
  carried on the backs of other nations.
  <HR>
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>"M"</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>While we somehow managed to hold on and get our fourth
  week of gains on every major index, this rally continues to look tired. It
  still is not clear to me if we are trying to do the second leg up of a double
  bottom "W" formation, or are stagnating in the right shoulder of a head and
  shoulders pattern. Volume remains boring, hovering around average. Volatility
  has dropped, as had VIX. We survived the earnings reporting cycle without
  significant damage, and even got a few decent forward looking forecasts.
  Several indexes (Russell 2000, Naz 100, Naz Composite) are beginning to look
  more like continuing the rally while the rest appear to be stagnating in the
  h&s pattern. Only time will tell which will win out. I remain fully in
  cash in my margin acct, but did go so far as to get preclearance for buys of
  up to about a dozen tech stocks, just haven't executed any yet. Elections on
  Tuesday, and the Feds meeting on Tue and Wed, will likely affect the markets
  early in the week. And the only question with the Feds appears to be whether
  the long awaited cut will be 25 BP or 50. A quarter point cut is already
  priced into the Treasuries, so anything less will be a blow to the markets (my
  bet is on 25 BP). Consumer spending and sentiment is the worst so far this
  year. Significant economic and corporate profit recovery appears now to have
  been postponed from the second half of this year until at least mid year 2003.
  While it may make some sense to nibble around the edges, and take some small
  or partial positions, "M" has still not clearly spoken, so keep your powder
  dry and your cash safe.
  <HR>
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>ECONOMICS</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>The steady rise in gas prices finally slowed last week,
  amid most major oil companies reporting lousy earnings for Q3. Where is all
  the money going? Crude has been steadily dropping as part of the Iraqi War
  Premium is stripped out, gas pump prices nonetheless went up, and oil company
  profits are falling. What am I missing? Is it just a lack of product volume
  sales?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Chain store sales rose 1.4% during the first 3 weeks of
  October compared to September, attributed to cooler weather.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>The Conference Board reported that consumer confidence
  fell off the cliff in October, dropping to 79.4 from September's 93.7. Fifth
  straight monthly decline, well under expectations of 90, lowest since Nov
  1993. Also biggest month to month decline since 9/11.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Employment Cost Index rose by 0.8% during Q3, below
  expectations of 1.0%, as businesses delayed or cancelled wage, salary or
  benefits increases. Wages and salaries combined only grew by 0.5%, smallest
  increase since Q1 1999.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Weekly unemployment reports continue to paint a picture
  of a stagnant labor market, new claims rising to 410,000, above expectations
  of 399K. Workers continuing on unemployment increased 76K to 3.6 million.
  That's a LOT of people out of work as Christmas approaches.
Ouch!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Good news, bad news. The preliminary Q3 report of GDP
  shows a rise to 3.1%, well above Q2's anemic 1.3%, but also well under
  expectations of 3.6%. Consumer spending drove the numbers, up 4.2%, but much
  of that may have been early in the quarter, especially on new autos (durable
  goods including cars was up 22.7%) which appears to have topped out. One
  hopeful sign was business spending on equipment and software, rising at a 6.5%
  rate and strongest since Q2 2000 (remember the tech bubble??). CPI was up a
  lethargic 1.4%, so inflation remains a non-event, much less a
  threat.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>In a prelude to the nat'l survey, the Chicago Assn of
  Purchasing Managers index fell further and faster in October, down to 45.9
  from 48.1 in Sept. Expectations were for 49, so contraction was not only
  expected, it was worse than expected by a wide margin. The employment
  component of this index fell to 41.6 from 46.6, but prices paid rose to 62.0
  from 57.6.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Paralleling the Chicago report, the national report from
  ISM came in with a decline to 48.5% in October, down a full percent from
  September and below expectations of 48.9%. The employment component rose to 45
  from 44.9, so got worse at a slightly marginally slower rate. On a positive
  note, the new orders component rose to 50.9 from 50.2, second monthly rise and
  keeping alive hopes for future improvements.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>US Dollar remains top of the pile, despite accounting
  scandals, severe drops in the US markets, poor corporate earnings, fear of
  recession or war with Iraq, etc. The US dollar is off 12% against the Euro so
  far this year, and 7% against the yen. But the dollar still beats both over
  the past 4 years. The S&P500 is down 22% for the year, but France's CAC40
  is down 26.6% and Germany's DAX is down 33.3%, and who's still counting the
  NIKKEI as it battles 19 year lows?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Consumer spending dropped 0.4% in September, largest
  decline in 10 months. Consumer income rose by the same 0.4%. Both were weaker
  than expectations of a negative 0.2% and a positive 0.5%
  respectively.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>The Longshoremen's Union and the Pacific Maritime Assn
  have apparently reached a tentative agreement over implementation of
  technology. While details are not out, maybe now productively can at least
  return to prior levels, if not exceed that.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Construction spending remains strong, up 0.6% in
  September, and reversing a four month decline. But its all concentrated in
  residential housing. Nonresidential construction fell to more than a six year
  low. Expectations were for an overall 0.2% improvement.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Overall unemployment rose slightly to 5.7% instead of
  the expected 5.8%. Businesses cut 5,000 jobs in line with expectations of
  unchanged, with service jobs again increasing while manufacturing jobs
  declining. Personal savings rate also increased to 4.2% from 3.4%. Visa,
  Master Charge and American Express better watch out, people might actually
  start paying off their credit card balances instead of running them
  higher.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>
  <HR>
  WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES</STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks
  to the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of
  CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks
  with constructive chart patterns that may be worth <STRONG><FONT
  color=#ff0000>WATCHING</FONT> and learning from</STRONG> (and of course doing
  your own due diligence). <FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG><EM>I am employed in
  Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is
  strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or
  opinions of my employer.</EM></STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of
  80 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition /
  buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS
  criteria, focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all
  industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my personal
  investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast
  for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. <FONT
  color=#ff0000>I do no due diligence, that is your responsibility</FONT>. I
  will note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple)
  bottoms, or flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will
  also note LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a
  CANSLIM pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my
  personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any stocks
  in which I have a current personal financial interest.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend is
  stable to slightly improving.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>CAH - 2nd handle?</DIV>
  <DIV>CCCG - B3</DIV>
  <DIV>CHCO - LLUR</DIV>
  <DIV>CHS - c&h?</DIV>
  <DIV>CPKI - high handle</DIV>
  <DIV>FESX - B5</DIV>
  <DIV>GDW -  double bottom</DIV>
  <DIV>IDXC - cup w/o handle</DIV>
  <DIV>KSWS - c&h</DIV>
  <DIV>MVL - c&h</DIV>
  <DIV>PCLE - c&h</DIV>
  <DIV>PFGC - c&h</DIV>
  <DIV>RKY - c&h</DIV>
  <DIV>SHFL - c&h</DIV>
  <DIV>STN - b/o Wed on over 3X ADV, within 5% of pivot</DIV>
  <DIV>SYMC - stealth b/o from the handle on below avg volume</DIV>
  <DIV>TSCO - b/o Friday on 2.5X ADV from a B3+</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>Happy hunting, and good luck,</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><IMG alt="" hspace=0
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Tom Worley<BR></FONT><A
  href="mailto:[e-mail]"><FONT
  face=Arial>[e-mail]</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial>AIM:
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From: "Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] STTX - Too late?
Date: 03 Nov 2002 10:10:34 -0600

Kelly,

I agree with your LLUR view point.  I think it is still buyable as such.
This last little dip has been on low vol which is preferable IMO, but needs
to drop a couple of dollars more.

As for future earnings, unless something changes, it looks like next year
will be hard pressed to top this year.

Norm

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> Hi Kelly,
>
> This one first popped up on my radar screen under $10, but I couldn't get
> excited about it. Have kept shaking my head every time it showed up since.
> Even after doubling this year, trailing PE only 14. On the other hand,
> current forecasts are for only low double digit earnings growth the next
two
> years. Based on past two qtrs, these forecasts would seem low, however.
>
> I missed an easy double on this one, because I didn't dig into it and find
> out why it was hitting new highs all the time.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelly Short" <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:55 AM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] STTX - Too late?
>
>
> Any thoughts on STTX and whether the train ride is nearly over or if it
will
> continue its LLUR movement?
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 03 Nov 2002 11:29:39 -0500

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Marc, please read the boiler plate explanation in the paragraph =
preceding the list of stocks (I marked it in bold Lime)

----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 7:53 AM


What is llur b3+ b3 b5 =20

Please advise

Marc
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 11/2/2002 at 6:45 PM Tom Worley wrote:

-----
  WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20
  This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. =
It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of =
CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some =
stocks with constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and =
learning from (and of course doing your own due diligence). I am =
employed in Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything =
presented by me is strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken =
to reflect the views or opinions of my employer.

  I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, =
and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout =
scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, =
focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all =
industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my =
personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast =
for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no =
due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM =
patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases =
(shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR =
(Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM =
pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my =
personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any =
stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest.

  The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend is stable to =
slightly improving.

  CAH - 2nd handle?
  CCCG - B3
  CHCO - LLUR
  CHS - c&h?
  CPKI - high handle
  FESX - B5
  GDW -  double bottom
  IDXC - cup w/o handle
  KSWS - c&h
  MVL - c&h
  PCLE - c&h
  PFGC - c&h
  RKY - c&h
  SHFL - c&h
  STN - b/o Wed on over 3X ADV, within 5% of pivot
  SYMC - stealth b/o from the handle on below avg volume
  TSCO - b/o Friday on 2.5X ADV from a B3+

  Happy hunting, and good luck,


  Tom Worley
  [e-mail]
  AIM: TexWorley




Marc Fournier
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<DIV>What is llur b3+ b3 b5  </DIV>
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From: "John Solarno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA
Date: 03 Nov 2002 15:19:06 -0500

Actually, I use a 12-26 day MACD.  Given the volatility of the market
these days, I find that's the maximum amount of time I can keep my hands
gripped to the side of my chair before my knuckles turn white.

John.



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John -

Using a 20-50 Day MACD   or the 20-100 Day MACD ?

Thanks --paul

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: Funds
Date: 03 Nov 2002 21:26:14 EST

Tom:

      What do you make of a stock where the DG-Online stat. for funds is
"NA".  I'm looking at SMD, and it has nice aggregate number for mgt. which is
holding the stock (39%); the weekly chart looks like I'd want to watch it;
earnings are very nice as is cash flow; it has no debt and ROE is a
spectacular 59%.  However, not knowing how many funds are holding the stock
gives me pause.

     How do you analyze a stock when the everything else seems nice, but
funds say "NA"?

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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Funds
Date: 03 Nov 2002 21:33:51 -0500

I would write DGO and ask them about that specific stock and its funds
ownership. In some cases the NA may mean they don't have current data, in
other cases it may mean that funds ownership is less than 1%

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Tom:

      What do you make of a stock where the DG-Online stat. for funds is
"NA".  I'm looking at SMD, and it has nice aggregate number for mgt. which
is
holding the stock (39%); the weekly chart looks like I'd want to watch it;
earnings are very nice as is cash flow; it has no debt and ROE is a
spectacular 59%.  However, not knowing how many funds are holding the stock
gives me pause.

     How do you analyze a stock when the everything else seems nice, but
funds say "NA"?

jans




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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] my first charts
Date: 03 Nov 2002 19:44:58 -0800

I actually got kicked off the last after year two of lurking... probably
'cause I wasn't contributing anything... The list postings just sortta
stopped showing up! Guess that's what I get for being slow....

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 7:21 AM


Robin, sorry for the delayed response, my weeks seem only to get longer and
more tiring. And thanks for the intro, wow, a three year lurker finally
coming forward, I think that could be a new record, anyone else want to beat
it??

Some quick comments at least
BSTE - strange chart, kinda a c&h, but a pretty long and drooping handle,
excellent fundies and growth top and bottom line, and forecast to continue
that way for another year. Funds already own 33% however.

EXPD - I like to see at least 20% earnings forecast

FCBP - I don't see this as LLUR, too ranging of a chart.

HLYW - agree on all points, this is the kind of company that benefits both
from the aging population, as well as present economy. Even if the economy
starts to improve, I would think it would help more than hurt

ROOM - on the %age ownership, Management is taken as of the total issue,
while funds and banks are of the float, so the figures cannot be added
together. Yes, the bottom of the cup is deeper than desired, on the other
hand the run up to 70 was from an exaggerated low resulting from 9/11.
Fundies and growth top and bottom are good, altho margins appear volatile
and hard to predict. Ads I have seen on TV look effective, but you can
better judge the marketing effectiveness.

ORLY - look at it on a weekly chart, it is in a steady decline, confirmed by
the trend of both the 50 and 200 dma lines, and now by the RS as well.

PPDI - Group RS improved to 61, so puts it into the bottom of the "B" group,
certainly worth watching for a break over the pivot in the handle

SHFL - Management only owns 4%, but their last four transactions shown were
buys (May - July) and at an excellent price.

UPOX - I am assuming you mean UOPX, Group RS now at 81, so into the low "A"
category, one of the reasons why I disregard group rankings in doing my
screens, I actually like finding pretty charts on companies still in the
Group "E" category.

AMGP - last two quarters poor earnings on higher revenues would kick this
one off my radar immediately, also I don't like companies public for less
than 12 months

Good luck,

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:06 PM


FOA... Thanks for all the input on resources. Was much
appreciated.

I'm listing some charts below that appear to my novice eye
as being of interest. This is only based on what I can see
from the charts (... and I'm not putting ANY of my money
into ANYTHING based on those nascent skills at this point...)
But since there isn't a lot of traffic on the board, I figured
I might as well put them out there if only to get reasons
why they aren't good candidates...

BSTE Biosite
GROUP RS 90, EPS Rank 75 (not great) B/B/A, 31%F/15%M (would
prefer M to be higher) Looks to me like a cup trying to make
a handle. >50%+ on last run. Volume dried up on handle and then
almost hit pivot point.

EXPD Expeditors
Is this a cup? +20% on last advance. 28.3% between L and bottom
of base. EPS 88, RS 86 B/B/A. The Group RS is 50 (Not sure how
much I should care about that...) and Mgmt only owns 5%, with F
at 33%. But it looks to me like it's forming a nice R to the
cup.

FCBP
I think this is an LLUR. Don't know what to do with those yet.
But with Group RS 95, EPS 88, A/B/A, RS of 90, Mgmnt 36% with
continued insider acquisitions I thought it was worth a look.
Now if I can just figure out if that's a really, really, really
long handle.....

HLYW Hollywood Entertainment
A cup that I think is now trying to make a handle. +20% on last
run. Above 200DMA. Volume drying up on handle. Group RS 85, A/A
12%M and 30%F. EPS Rank 80. I think I should like this one.

ROOM Hotels.com
Cup. B/B/A, EPS 96, Growth +166%. Mgmnt 49% & Funds 46%. RS increasing,
59.4% on last major runup. Should I be concerned that base is 49%
below L on cup and Group RS is 53? Also... According the DGO chart
I'm looking at... Funds have 46%, Banks 10%, and Mgmt 49%... Okay,
I know I'm only a marketing guy but doesn't that make the pie a little
too big?

ORLY
I like this one two weeks ago. It had a cup then... I promise... But
what is it now the handle seems to have gone all funky?
Group RS 91,  B/B/A EPS 95

PPDI
Cup consolidating into handle? Fundamentals look good to me except
that pesky group RS thing again (34%) Should that be enough to knock
out a stock that is otherwise A/B/A, EPS 99% and a 32% growth rate?

SHFL
Cup making handle. A/A/A, 91EPS and RS95. Group RS 80. But management
only owns 4%.

UPOX
Cup with handle trying to break pivot. A/A/A 99EPS. RS95 but declining
a little bit. Concerns - Group RS of 53 (DGO should really leave this
number out of their charts... it keeps messing up my otherwise nice
investment options....) and only 2% Management.

AMGP
Cup with handle? Group RS 98, EPS 81, A/B/A F34% M42%, Volume was
declining in handle, good growth, nice run up before L of cup.

Any comments (except 'what are u smoking?') would be very much
appreciated.

And finally... not to be rude, since this is my first real post, a brief
introduction. Been in marketing for 18 years, but have an Economics
and Accounting background. Cut my teeth at Apple Computer
with the launch of the Macintosh. Now with a media wholesaler. My
investing has been limited to watching my Fidelity 401K funds get
smaller. In addition to HTMMIS also read Grahams Value Investing book
and Murphy's Technical Analysis (which I slept through twice and STILL
can't get the study guide questions right....) Have bitten the bullet
and subscribed to IBD, 'though I still prefer WSJ for non-chart content.
I like bicycles, lawn gnomes and long walks on the beach, and have lurked
on this board for almost 3 years now.

Robin





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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Gaps
Date: 03 Nov 2002 19:46:54 -0800

In reviewing some of my other notes, I wondered how much
credence I should give to breakaway or measuring gaps in
determining the strength of the sides of the cups (especially
the right side.) If the right side shows distinct breakaway
gap from the base and a mid-point runaway gap, does that
speak well for the strength of the overall accumulation or
is it irrelevant in the C&H pattern?

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Subject: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM List FAQ (Monthly Posting)
Date: 04 Nov 2002 05:15:02 -0600

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http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.doc

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Scope of discussion, Etiquette:=20

Here are a couple of quotes from the welcome email that Jeff Salisbury, =
the list owner and host, sends to each new member:



"This is an unmoderated discussion group whose purpose is to provide a =
forum for individuals to:=20

  1.. Discuss the ideas and concepts of CANSLIM.=20
  2.. Add to the concepts of CANSLIM from personal experience.=20
  3.. Exchange sources of information on the internet and software that =
can be used to select stocks using the CANSLIM methodology.=20
  4.. Discuss specific equities and how they may or may not meet the =
CANSLIM criteria. "
"Anyone who resorts to rudeness, flaming, and personal attacks will be =
removed from our group."=20

"By signing up for this list, you agree to the following:  This list is =
a private list.  All information that you take from this list is for =
your private use only.  Commercial use of this information is =
forbidden."

Commonly used (misc) abbreviations:

BO or B/O =3D Breakout

DD=3D Due Diligence

dMA =3D days Moving Average (a simple moving average unless otherwise =
specified)

FTD =3D Follow Through Day http://www.market-tester.com/primer.htm

HTMMIS =3D "How to Make Money in Stocks" by William J. O'Neil

IBD =3D Investors Business Daily  (www.investors.com)

IMHO =3D In My Humble Opinion sometimes used as IMO or JMO or my $0.02

LOL =3D Laughing Out Loud

M =3D Market ( the "M" in CANSLIM)

MA =3D Moving Average

N =3D New (the "N" in CANSLIM)

VR =3D Virtual Reality fund

WON =3D William O'Neil, originator of CANSLIM



IBD/CANSLIM Proprietary Rankings:

A/D =3D Accumulation/Distribution

EPS =3D Earnings per Share Rank

GRS =3D Group Relative Strength

RS =3D Relative Strength

SMR =3D Sales/Margins/ROE

Comp =3D Composite Ranking



Accounting/Finance Abbreviations:

BS or B/S =3D Balance Sheet

cflo =3D Cash Flow

D/E =3D Debt to Equity

IS or I/S =3D Income Statement

PE or P/E =3D Price to Earnings ratio

Pro Forma earnings =3D http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/proforma12-4.htm

=20

Accounting 101:

http://uoutperform.com/New_Folder/fundamental_analysis.htm
http://www.investopedia.com/university/fundamentalanalysis/
http://www.WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/Accounting101.doc

=20

Commonly discussed technical patterns:

2B=3DDouble Bottoms

A Base =3D Ascending Base

C&H or CwH =3D Cup and Handle  (http://www.cwhcharts.com/WON_cwh.htm.)

FB=3DFlat Base

HTF =3D High Tight Flag

LLUR =3D Lower Left Upper Right (a stock on the rise, channeling in a =
tight range)

For general discussion of chart patterns: =
http://stockcharts.com/education/What/ChartAnalysis/index.html



Commonly discussed software/tools:

AAII Stock Investor Pro http://www.aaii.com/ - money back guarantee

DGO=3D DailyGraphs Online  ( www.dailygraphs.com ) - 7 day trial $19.95

HGSI =3D High Growth Stock Investing (www.highgrowthstock.com) - 60 day =
paid trial $49

QP2 =3D Quotes Plus (www.qp2.com)

TC2000 =3D  Worden Brothers TC2000 technical analysis software =
(http://www.tc2000.com) -30 day free trial

VV=3D VectorVest (www.vectorvest.com) - 5 week trial $9.95

=20

If you are new to CANSLIM investing (or just need a refresher):

Take advantage of the excellent learning center at the IBD site-- =
www.investors.com/learn



Free sites for stock scanning:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/finder/predefstocks.asp

http://www.marketguide.com/screen/SScreen.asp



Free sites for charting:

www.stockcharts.com

www.bigcharts.com

http://www.moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3Dcsc=
o



Due diligence sites:

Company's web site

http://biz.yahoo.com/p/c/csco.html

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/newsnap.asp?Symbol=3DCSCO

www.cwhcharts.com/canslim (limited to 5 stocks per person per day)

www.investors.com (Requires subscription-look for the stock checkup =
feature)

=20



Free resources for real time tracking:

www.quotetracker.com



Tools provided by members:

-CANSLIM Evaluator provided by Mike Gibbons: A tool that evaluates a =
stock against each of the CANSLIM criteria except M. =
(http://www.cwhcharts.com/canslim)

-CwH Stock Selector provided by Mike Gibbons: A tool that looks for =
stocks that are in the handle of a cup-with-handle base and are =
potentially ready for breakout. (http://www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php)

-Charts for CANSLIM provided by Mike Gibbons: A straightforward chart =
showing the price/volume action, pivots, % off 52 wk high, RS Line =
relative to the S&P500, RS Rank plotted over time, U/D ratio over time. =
Displays daily for 3, 6, 9, or 12 months. Updated with delayed intraday =
pricing as well. (http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php)

-CANSLIMLinks provided by Katherine Malm: An Excel spreadsheet that =
contains macros for creating links to sites useful for evaluating =
CANSLIM stocks. Allows you to list stocks of your choosing. Full =
functionality only available with Excel 2000 for Windows. Limited =
functionality in prior versions. =
(http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMLinksAutomated.zip)

-Favorite Resources provided by Katherine Malm: A Word document listing =
various sites I find useful in CANSLIM investing. =
(http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/FavoriteResourcesKM.doc)

-Favorite Resources provided by other members-Would love to see more =
posted to the FTP site!!!

=20

List FAQ compiled by Katherine Malm. If you have suggestions for =
additions and/or revisions, please contact me at [e-mail]

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(misc)=20
abbreviations:</EM></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">BO or B/O =3D =
Breakout</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">DD=3D Due =
Diligence</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">dMA =3D days Moving =
Average (a=20
simple moving average unless otherwise specified)</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">FTD =3D Follow =
Through Day <A=20
href=3D"http://www.market-tester.com/primer.htm">http://www.market-tester=
.com/primer.htm</A></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">HTMMIS =3D "How to =
Make Money in=20
Stocks" by William J. O'Neil</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">IBD =3D Investors =
Business=20
Daily  (<A =
href=3D"http://www.investors.com">www.investors.com</A>)</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">IMHO =3D In My Humble =
Opinion=20
sometimes used as IMO or JMO or my $0.02</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">LOL =3D Laughing Out =
Loud</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">M =3D Market ( the =
"M" in=20
CANSLIM)</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">MA =3D Moving =
Average</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">N =3D New (the "N" in =
CANSLIM)</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">VR =3D Virtual =
Reality fund</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">WON =3D William =
O'Neil, originator=20
of CANSLIM</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><EM>IBD/CANSLIM =
Proprietary=20
Rankings:</EM></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">A/D =3D=20
Accumulation/Distribution</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">EPS =3D Earnings per =
Share Rank</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">GRS =3D Group =
Relative Strength</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">RS =3D Relative =
Strength</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">SMR =3D =
Sales/Margins/ROE</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Comp =3D Composite =
Ranking</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><EM>Accounting/Finance=20
Abbreviations:</EM></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">BS or B/S =3D Balance =
Sheet</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">cflo =3D Cash =
Flow</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">D/E =3D Debt to =
Equity</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">IS or I/S =3D Income =
Statement</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">PE or P/E =3D Price =
to Earnings=20
ratio</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Pro Forma earnings =
=3D <A=20
href=3D"http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/proforma12-4.htm">http://www.sec=
.gov/investor/pubs/proforma12-4.htm</A></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><EM> <o:p></o:p></EM></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><EM>Accounting =
101:</EM></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A=20
href=3D"http://uoutperform.com/New_Folder/fundamental_analysis.htm">http:=
//uoutperform.com/New_Folder/fundamental_analysis.htm</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.investopedia.com/university/fundamentalanalysis/">http=
://www.investopedia.com/university/fundamentalanalysis/</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/Accounting101.doc">http://w=
ww.WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/Accounting101.doc</A></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><EM> <o:p></o:p></EM></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><EM>Commonly =
discussed technical=20
patterns:<o:p></o:p></EM></P>
<P class=3DMsoFooter style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: =
.5in">2B=3DDouble=20
Bottoms</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">A Base =3D Ascending =
Base</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">C&H or CwH =3D =
Cup and=20
Handle<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>(<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/WON_cwh.htm">http://www.cwhcharts.com/WO=
N_cwh.htm</A>.)</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">FB=3DFlat Base</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">HTF =3D High Tight =
Flag</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">LLUR =3D Lower Left =
Upper=20
Right (a stock on the rise, channeling in a tight range)</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">For general =
discussion of chart=20
patterns: <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"><A=20
href=3D"http://stockcharts.com/education/What/ChartAnalysis/index.html">h=
ttp://stockcharts.com/education/What/ChartAnalysis/index.html</A></SPAN><=
/P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><EM>Commonly =
discussed=20
software/tools:</EM></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">AAII Stock Investor =
Pro <A=20
href=3D"http://www.aaii.com/">http://www.aaii.com/</A> - money back =

guarantee</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">DGO=3D DailyGraphs=20
Online  ( <A=20
href=3D"http://www.dailygraphs.com">www.dailygraphs.com</A> ) =96 7 =
day trial=20
$19.95</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">HGSI =3D High Growth =
Stock=20
Investing (<A =
href=3D"http://www.highgrowthstock.com">www.highgrowthstock.com</A>)=20
=96 60 day paid trial $49</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">QP2 =3D Quotes Plus =
(<A=20
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] my first charts
Date: 04 Nov 2002 06:23:43 -0500

you were probably subscribed to the digest version, where you got all the
posts in one or two daily emails. The digest version was discontinued, and
you had to subscribe to the live version instead. I don't know of anyone
kicked out for not contributing, only for repeated violations of the few
rules we have.

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Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:44 PM


I actually got kicked off the last after year two of lurking... probably
'cause I wasn't contributing anything... The list postings just sortta
stopped showing up! Guess that's what I get for being slow....

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Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 7:21 AM


Robin, sorry for the delayed response, my weeks seem only to get longer and
more tiring. And thanks for the intro, wow, a three year lurker finally
coming forward, I think that could be a new record, anyone else want to beat
it??

Some quick comments at least
BSTE - strange chart, kinda a c&h, but a pretty long and drooping handle,
excellent fundies and growth top and bottom line, and forecast to continue
that way for another year. Funds already own 33% however.

EXPD - I like to see at least 20% earnings forecast

FCBP - I don't see this as LLUR, too ranging of a chart.

HLYW - agree on all points, this is the kind of company that benefits both
from the aging population, as well as present economy. Even if the economy
starts to improve, I would think it would help more than hurt

ROOM - on the %age ownership, Management is taken as of the total issue,
while funds and banks are of the float, so the figures cannot be added
together. Yes, the bottom of the cup is deeper than desired, on the other
hand the run up to 70 was from an exaggerated low resulting from 9/11.
Fundies and growth top and bottom are good, altho margins appear volatile
and hard to predict. Ads I have seen on TV look effective, but you can
better judge the marketing effectiveness.

ORLY - look at it on a weekly chart, it is in a steady decline, confirmed by
the trend of both the 50 and 200 dma lines, and now by the RS as well.

PPDI - Group RS improved to 61, so puts it into the bottom of the "B" group,
certainly worth watching for a break over the pivot in the handle

SHFL - Management only owns 4%, but their last four transactions shown were
buys (May - July) and at an excellent price.

UPOX - I am assuming you mean UOPX, Group RS now at 81, so into the low "A"
category, one of the reasons why I disregard group rankings in doing my
screens, I actually like finding pretty charts on companies still in the
Group "E" category.

AMGP - last two quarters poor earnings on higher revenues would kick this
one off my radar immediately, also I don't like companies public for less
than 12 months

Good luck,

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:06 PM


FOA... Thanks for all the input on resources. Was much
appreciated.

I'm listing some charts below that appear to my novice eye
as being of interest. This is only based on what I can see
from the charts (... and I'm not putting ANY of my money
into ANYTHING based on those nascent skills at this point...)
But since there isn't a lot of traffic on the board, I figured
I might as well put them out there if only to get reasons
why they aren't good candidates...

BSTE Biosite
GROUP RS 90, EPS Rank 75 (not great) B/B/A, 31%F/15%M (would
prefer M to be higher) Looks to me like a cup trying to make
a handle. >50%+ on last run. Volume dried up on handle and then
almost hit pivot point.

EXPD Expeditors
Is this a cup? +20% on last advance. 28.3% between L and bottom
of base. EPS 88, RS 86 B/B/A. The Group RS is 50 (Not sure how
much I should care about that...) and Mgmt only owns 5%, with F
at 33%. But it looks to me like it's forming a nice R to the
cup.

FCBP
I think this is an LLUR. Don't know what to do with those yet.
But with Group RS 95, EPS 88, A/B/A, RS of 90, Mgmnt 36% with
continued insider acquisitions I thought it was worth a look.
Now if I can just figure out if that's a really, really, really
long handle.....

HLYW Hollywood Entertainment
A cup that I think is now trying to make a handle. +20% on last
run. Above 200DMA. Volume drying up on handle. Group RS 85, A/A
12%M and 30%F. EPS Rank 80. I think I should like this one.

ROOM Hotels.com
Cup. B/B/A, EPS 96, Growth +166%. Mgmnt 49% & Funds 46%. RS increasing,
59.4% on last major runup. Should I be concerned that base is 49%
below L on cup and Group RS is 53? Also... According the DGO chart
I'm looking at... Funds have 46%, Banks 10%, and Mgmt 49%... Okay,
I know I'm only a marketing guy but doesn't that make the pie a little
too big?

ORLY
I like this one two weeks ago. It had a cup then... I promise... But
what is it now the handle seems to have gone all funky?
Group RS 91,  B/B/A EPS 95

PPDI
Cup consolidating into handle? Fundamentals look good to me except
that pesky group RS thing again (34%) Should that be enough to knock
out a stock that is otherwise A/B/A, EPS 99% and a 32% growth rate?

SHFL
Cup making handle. A/A/A, 91EPS and RS95. Group RS 80. But management
only owns 4%.

UPOX
Cup with handle trying to break pivot. A/A/A 99EPS. RS95 but declining
a little bit. Concerns - Group RS of 53 (DGO should really leave this
number out of their charts... it keeps messing up my otherwise nice
investment options....) and only 2% Management.

AMGP
Cup with handle? Group RS 98, EPS 81, A/B/A F34% M42%, Volume was
declining in handle, good growth, nice run up before L of cup.

Any comments (except 'what are u smoking?') would be very much
appreciated.

And finally... not to be rude, since this is my first real post, a brief
introduction. Been in marketing for 18 years, but have an Economics
and Accounting background. Cut my teeth at Apple Computer
with the launch of the Macintosh. Now with a media wholesaler. My
investing has been limited to watching my Fidelity 401K funds get
smaller. In addition to HTMMIS also read Grahams Value Investing book
and Murphy's Technical Analysis (which I slept through twice and STILL
can't get the study guide questions right....) Have bitten the bullet
and subscribed to IBD, 'though I still prefer WSJ for non-chart content.
I like bicycles, lawn gnomes and long walks on the beach, and have lurked
on this board for almost 3 years now.

Robin





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: [CANSLIM] Re. Funds
Date: 03 Nov 2002 21:21:11 EST

Tom:

      What do you make of a stock where the DG-Online stat. for funds is
"NA".  I'm looking at SMD, and it has nice aggregate number for mgt. which is
holding the stock (39%); the weekly chart looks like I'd want to watch it;
earnings are very nice as is cash flow; it has no debt and ROE is a
spectacular 59%.  However, not knowing how many funds are holding the stock
gives me pause.

     How do you analyze a stock when the everything else seems nice, but
funds say "NA"?

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SMD also on my watch close list, has enough of the characteristics to buy if
it marks a direction from here.

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Subject: [CANSLIM] The Acc/Dis charts have been updated.
Date: 04 Nov 2002 08:48:03 -0600

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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA
Date: 04 Nov 2002 09:52:00 -0600


John,

From what little I know about TA, I think the MACD could be pretty useful
too.  As I continue to learn about the cwh patterns, it would be nice to
have a way to "check" the chart with TA, so that if you see a breakout that
fails, maybe you could have seen it coming based on the MACD signals.


Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel [phone]
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I personally rely on the MACD histogram. I maintain a database of stocks
gleaned from various sources (IBD, VectorVest.)  As soon as I see any
stock cross the zero line headed upwards, I pay VERY close attention for
the next day or two and if it continues to climb with strong volume, I'm
in. Conversely, as soon as the histogram starts heading back down
towards zero, I unload.

I have never managed to get the hang of the cup-with-handle formation.
I don't have the mental discipline, I fear, for calculating pivot points
and base depths.  Don't misunderstand, I still look for those illusive
cups, but I find a MACD histogram is easier to spot and, therefore,
something I use more frequently.

John

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Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:05 PM

I was wondering, by a show of hands, how many of the group members use
some
other form of technical analysis besides the price volume chart action
described by WON .
Since the chart reading can be very subjective, do any of you use MACD
cross overs, or Point and figure charts to confirm a breakout, or
possible
sell sign for a stock?

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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where do you find the macd histogram also where can I find a good definition of what it is?
 John Solarno <[e-mail]> wrote:I personally rely on the MACD histogram. I maintain a database of stocks
gleaned from various sources (IBD, VectorVest.) As soon as I see any
stock cross the zero line headed upwards, I pay VERY close attention for
the next day or two and if it continues to climb with strong volume, I'm
in. Conversely, as soon as the histogram starts heading back down
towards zero, I unload.

I have never managed to get the hang of the cup-with-handle formation.
I don't have the mental discipline, I fear, for calculating pivot points
and base depths. Don't misunderstand, I still look for those illusive
cups, but I find a MACD histogram is easier to spot and, therefore,
something I use more frequently.

John

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[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:05 PM

I was wondering, by a show of hands, how many of the group members use
some
other form of technical analysis besides the price volume chart action
described by WON .
Since the chart reading can be very subjective, do any of you use MACD
cross overs, or Point and figure charts to confirm a breakout, or
possible
sell sign for a stock?

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel [phone]
Fax [phone]
[e-mail]



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<P>where do you find the macd histogram also where can I find a good definition of what it is?
<P> <B><I>John Solarno <[e-mail]></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I personally rely on the MACD histogram. I maintain a database of stocks<BR>gleaned from various sources (IBD, VectorVest.) As soon as I see any<BR>stock cross the zero line headed upwards, I pay VERY close attention for<BR>the next day or two and if it continues to climb with strong volume, I'm<BR>in. Conversely, as soon as the histogram starts heading back down<BR>towards zero, I unload. <BR><BR>I have never managed to get the hang of the cup-with-handle formation.<BR>I don't have the mental discipline, I fear, for calculating pivot points<BR>and base depths. Don't misunderstand, I still look for those illusive<BR>cups, but I find a MACD histogram is easier to spot and, therefore,<BR>something I use more frequently.<BR><BR>John<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: [e-mail]<BR>[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of<BR>[e-mail]<BR>Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:05 PM<BR>To: [e-mail]<BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA<BR><BR>I was wondering, by a show of hands, how many of the group members use<BR>some<BR>other form of technical analysis besides the price volume chart action<BR>described by WON .<BR>Since the chart reading can be very subjective, do any of you use MACD<BR>cross overs, or Point and figure charts to confirm a breakout, or<BR>possible<BR>sell sign for a stock?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>Mike Niemotka , PE<BR>Sr. Principal Engineer<BR>Baxter Healthcare Corporation<BR>Route 120 & Wilson Road<BR>Round Lake, IL 60073<BR>Tel [phone]<BR>Fax [phone]<BR>[e-mail]<BR><BR><BR><BR>-<BR>-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "[e-mail]"<BR>-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-<BR>-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "[e-mail]"<BR>-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.</BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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Date: 04 Nov 2002 10:10:47 -0600


Try this one:

http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/?page=66

I'm sure other will respond. If you use stockcharts.com. bigcharts.com,
etc, you can get the MACD histogram plotted

Hope that helps

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
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Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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where do you find the macd histogram also where can I find a good
definition of what it is?


 John Solarno <[e-mail]> wrote:
 I personally rely on the MACD histogram. I maintain a database of stocks
 gleaned from various sources (IBD, VectorVest.) As soon as I see any
 stock cross the zero line headed upwards, I pay VERY close attention for
 the next day or two and if it continues to climb with strong volume, I'm
 in. Conversely, as soon as the histogram starts heading back down
 towards zero, I unload.

 I have never managed to get the hang of the cup-with-handle formation.
 I don't have the mental discipline, I fear, for calculating pivot points
 and base depths. Don't misunderstand, I still look for those illusive
 cups, but I find a MACD histogram is easier to spot and, therefore,
 something I use more frequently.

 John

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 [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
 [e-mail]! m
 Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:05 PM
 To: [e-mail]
 Subject: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA

 I was wondering, by a show of hands, how many of the group members use
 some
 other form of technical analysis besides the price volume chart action
 described by WON .
 Since the chart reading can be very subjective, do any of you use MACD
 cross overs, or Point and figure charts to confirm a breakout, or
 possible
 sell sign for a stock?

 Thanks

 Mike

 Mike Niemotka , PE
 Sr. Principal Engineer
 Baxter Healthcare Corporation
 Route 120 & Wilson Road
 Round Lake, IL 60073
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The MACD histogram is a standard indicator available in most (if not
all) charting packages as well as the online charting sources.  If you
are already familiar with the MACD, the histogram is basically the
difference between the MACD and the signal plotted as a histogram.

A decent explanation of MACD is available here:
http://clearstation.etrade.com/education/trending.shtml

A shorter version is here:
http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/?page=66



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where do you find the macd histogram also where can I find a good
definition of what it is?


 John Solarno <[e-mail]> wrote:


I personally rely on the MACD histogram. I maintain a database of stocks
gleaned from various sources (IBD, VectorVest.) As soon as I see any
stock cross the zero line headed upwards, I pay VERY close attention for
the next day or two and if it continues to climb with strong volume, I'm
in. Conversely, as soon as the histogram starts heading back down
towards zero, I unload.

I have never managed to get the hang of the cup-with-handle formation.
I don't have the mental discipline, I fear, for calculating pivot points
and base depths. Don't misunderstand, I still look for those illusive
cups, but I find a MACD histogram is easier to spot and, therefore,
something I use more frequently.

John

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:05 PM

I was wondering, by a show of hands, how many of the group members use
some
other form of technical analysis besides the price volume chart action
described by WON .
Since the chart reading can be very subjective, do any of you use MACD
cross overs, or Point and figure charts to confirm a breakout, or
possible
sell sign for a stock?

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel [phone]
Fax [phone]
[e-mail]



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Subject: [CANSLIM] selling rules question
Date: 04 Nov 2002 11:59:38 -0600

All,

I know I have asked similar questions in the past, but not sure if I have
addressed this one:

If you have bought a stock, and watched it rise , say 15-20%, and being
conservative, you have sold 1/2 your position to lock in those profits, for
the other half, do you use a trailing stop (mental or real) to lock in a
minimum profit on the rest, say 5%, or do you allow it to drop as low as
the 7-8% below your original buy point, or maybe just to a break even
point?

The reason I ask is the somewhat confusing statement that WON makes in his
book about never letting a gain turn into a loss. But how much of a gain do
you have to get before you move up the stop loss from 7-8% below buy point
to a break even point, without unnecessarily getting pushed out of a
otherwise good stock that might just be undergoing a normal correction?

Also, assuming that you capital is small, such that the commission fees are
not negligible, do you include the costs of the trades in calculating the
sell prices?

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
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From: "Chet Kwapisinski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA
Date: 04 Nov 2002 12:51:33 -0600

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There are been other sites referenced; however you might also visit =
these 2 examples regarding a defintion and how  some folks apply MACD:

http://www.decisionpoint.com/tacourse/MAC-D.html

http://www.decisionpoint.com/TraderNick/NickTechCIEN.html

Cheers

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA


  where do you find the macd histogram also where can I find a good =
definition of what it is?=20

   John Solarno <[e-mail]> wrote:=20

    I personally rely on the MACD histogram. I maintain a database of =
stocks
    gleaned from various sources (IBD, VectorVest.) As soon as I see any
    stock cross the zero line headed upwards, I pay VERY close attention =
for
    the next day or two and if it continues to climb with strong volume, =
I'm
    in. Conversely, as soon as the histogram starts heading back down
    towards zero, I unload.=20

    I have never managed to get the hang of the cup-with-handle =
formation.
    I don't have the mental discipline, I fear, for calculating pivot =
points
    and base depths. Don't misunderstand, I still look for those =
illusive
    cups, but I find a MACD histogram is easier to spot and, therefore,
    something I use more frequently.

    John

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [e-mail]
    [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
    [e-mail]
    Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:05 PM
    To: [e-mail]
    Subject: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM with TA

    I was wondering, by a show of hands, how many of the group members =
use
    some
    other form of technical analysis besides the price volume chart =
action
    described by WON .
    Since the chart reading can be very subjective, do any of you use =
MACD
    cross overs, or Point and figure charts to confirm a breakout, or
    possible
    sell sign for a stock?

    Thanks

    Mike

    Mike Niemotka , PE
    Sr. Principal Engineer
    Baxter Healthcare Corporation
    Route 120 & Wilson Road
    Round Lake, IL 60073
    Tel [phone]
    Fax [phone]
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  <P>where do you find the macd histogram also where can I find a good=20
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  <P> <B><I>John Solarno <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>>=
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  wrote:=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
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    personally rely on the MACD histogram. I maintain a database of=20
    stocks<BR>gleaned from various sources (IBD, VectorVest.) As soon as =
I see=20
    any<BR>stock cross the zero line headed upwards, I pay VERY close =
attention=20
    for<BR>the next day or two and if it continues to climb with strong =
volume,=20
    I'm<BR>in. Conversely, as soon as the histogram starts heading back=20
    down<BR>towards zero, I unload. <BR><BR>I have never managed to get =
the hang=20
    of the cup-with-handle formation.<BR>I don't have the mental =
discipline, I=20
    fear, for calculating pivot points<BR>and base depths. Don't =
misunderstand,=20
    I still look for those illusive<BR>cups, but I find a MACD histogram =
is=20
    easier to spot and, therefore,<BR>something I use more=20
    frequently.<BR><BR>John<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:=20
    =
[e-mail]<BR>[mailto:[e-mail].=
com]=20
    On Behalf Of<BR>[e-mail]<BR>Sent: Thursday, =
October 31,=20
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CANSLIM=20
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group=20
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price=20
    volume chart action<BR>described by WON .<BR>Since the chart reading =
can be=20
    very subjective, do any of you use MACD<BR>cross overs, or Point and =
figure=20
    charts to confirm a breakout, or<BR>possible<BR>sell sign for a=20
    stock?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>Mike Niemotka , PE<BR>Sr. =
Principal=20
    Engineer<BR>Baxter Healthcare Corporation<BR>Route 120 & Wilson=20
    Road<BR>Round Lake, IL 60073<BR>Tel [phone]<BR>Fax (847)=20
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Subject: [CANSLIM] MOVI
Date: 04 Nov 2002 18:57:47 -0800

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I have MOVI on my watch list and I decided not to purchase shares due to =
questions that have been raised about the accounting method they use, =
specifically the amortization schedule they use for valuing used =
merchandise (DVDs, VCRs). Nothing fraudulent, just some concerns about =
whether their liberal assumptions optomistically inflate their gross =
margins.  Here's a reference for anyone interested; the story is pretty =
balanced.

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech/georgemannes/10048945.html

But that's not the point of this question.  MOVI scores well on most =
fundamentals and the chart looks to me like a nice C&H; the pivot point =
before today seemed to be 19.32 and the stock seemed to break through =
that pivot point today on high volume.  But it tanked at the end of the =
day and closed at 17.98.  If you purchased at the pp, you'd still own =
the stock.  So I have 2 questions.=20

1. Does today's high 20.14 become the new high pp for the handle?
2. How do you interpret today's action.  Is it positive that it broke =
out on high volume in the AM, negative that it closed lower on high =
volume, or totally ambiguous?
3. MOVI reports their earnings on WEDS.  What's your experience in =
buying a stock that appears to break out of a base (as MOVI did this AM) =
2 days before earnings?  Do you interpret "smart money" anticipating =
good earnings perhaps due to a leak or is this a too risky breakout =
since it could easily reverse with bad news on WEDS. =20

Once again, I have no investment in MOVI and I only bring this up as an =
example to learn how more experienced CANSLIM investors think about =
these issues.  Thanks in advance.

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assumptions=20
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reference for=20
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] back in the bullish camp
Date: 04 Nov 2002 22:49:31 -0500

filled three of my five limit orders this morning, cash spent, now
margining. Two of the three up for the day, portfolio netted 3.5%+. Of the
two I missed filling, missed one by only a thin dime, and it gained 16% for
the day, nuts. That's what I get for being cautious.

So guess I must be back in my normal bull market mentality, at least for
today.

Unlike my normal diversified tech approach, concentrating on net and
computer security, group has been extremely strong lately.

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You left out the part IM interested in, what are you buying these days?

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bought ISSX, NSCN and OSIS today, looking for more in the net / computer =
security sector

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You left out the part IM interested in, what are you buying these days?

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From: Karen White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] back in the bullish camp
Date: 04 Nov 2002 20:34:50 -0800

lets guess...symc and chkp?


At 11:11 PM 11/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>You left out the part IM interested in, what are you buying these days?
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] back in the bullish camp
Date: 04 Nov 2002 23:50:50 -0500

nope, too big for me

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lets guess...symc and chkp?


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Subject: [CANSLIM] bottoming base?
Date: 04 Nov 2002 22:58:23 -0600

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From: luis claramunt <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] FLOAT
Date: 05 Nov 2002 09:27:33 -0600

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Hi,


While doing my weekly research I came across in Yahoo Finance with the profile for SRCL, under Ownership Institutional is appeared 123% of float.



A definition of float is the shares left over for possible purchase after substracting stock that is closely held (How to make money in stocks, page 33); my doubt is: who come  do they come with this 123%?



I need some light on it.



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Subject: [CANSLIM] Month of October SOD's
Date: 05 Nov 2002 12:56:00 -0600

All,

For what it is worth, the table below shows the results of the SOD compiler
for the month of October. I have included the names of those companies that
appeared in at least 30% of the screens. From a quick look, a lot of these
stocks have been breaking out, or are near breaking out.
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
|Symbol|   COMPANY NAME    | Number of | Total number |
|      |                   |occurrences|   of files   |
|      |                   |           |   examined   |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| COCO |Corinthian Colleges|         12|            24|
|      |        Inc        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| FRX  |  Forest Labs Inc  |         12|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| MME  | Mid Atlantic Med  |         12|            24|
|      |      Svc Inc      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| SYK  |   Stryker Corp    |         12|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| ZMH  |Zimmer Holdings Inc|         12|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| ATH  |    Anthem Inc     |         11|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| AZO  |   Autozone Inc    |         11|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| CVH  |  Coventry Health  |         11|            24|
|      |     Care Inc      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| UNH  |Unitedhealth Group |         11|            24|
|      |        Inc        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| UOPX |Apollo-Univ Phoenix|         11|            24|
|      |       Onln        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| WLP  | Wellpoint Health  |         11|            24|
|      |      Network      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| APOL |Apollo Group Inc Cl|         10|            24|
|      |         A         |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| BLUD |    Immucor Inc    |         10|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| RNR  |   Renaissancere   |         10|            24|
|      |     Holdings      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| CHS  |  Chicos Fas Inc   |          9|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| CTMI |  C T I Molecular  |          9|            24|
|      |      Imaging      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| IGT  |     Intl Game     |          9|            24|
|      |    Technology     |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| PENN | Penn Natl Gaming  |          9|            24|
|      |        Inc        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| SHFL |Shuffle Master Inc |          9|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| AMGP |  Amerigroup Corp  |          8|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| APPX |     American      |          8|            24|
|      |  Pharmaceutical   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
|  BG  |     Bunge Ltd     |          8|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| CECO | Career Education  |          8|            24|
|      |       Corp        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| LANC | Lancaster Colony  |          8|            24|
|      |       Corp        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| STTX |Steel Technologies |          8|            24|
|      |        Inc        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|



Good hunting

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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Um...... why OSIS?

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bought ISSX, NSCN and OSIS today, looking for more in the net / computer =
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  back in the bullish camp<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>bought ISSX, NSCN and OSIS today, looking for =
more in=20
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From: "Duke Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Month of October SOD's
Date: 05 Nov 2002 15:02:26 -0500

Thank you for providing this, Mike.

Duke

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All,

For what it is worth, the table below shows the results of the SOD
compiler for the month of October. I have included the names of those
companies that appeared in at least 30% of the screens. From a quick
look, a lot of these stocks have been breaking out, or are near breaking
out.
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
|Symbol|   COMPANY NAME    | Number of | Total number |
|      |                   |occurrences|   of files   |
|      |                   |           |   examined   |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| COCO |Corinthian Colleges|         12|            24|
|      |        Inc        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| FRX  |  Forest Labs Inc  |         12|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| MME  | Mid Atlantic Med  |         12|            24|
|      |      Svc Inc      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| SYK  |   Stryker Corp    |         12|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| ZMH  |Zimmer Holdings Inc|         12|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| ATH  |    Anthem Inc     |         11|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| AZO  |   Autozone Inc    |         11|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| CVH  |  Coventry Health  |         11|            24|
|      |     Care Inc      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| UNH  |Unitedhealth Group |         11|            24|
|      |        Inc        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| UOPX |Apollo-Univ Phoenix|         11|            24|
|      |       Onln        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| WLP  | Wellpoint Health  |         11|            24|
|      |      Network      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| APOL |Apollo Group Inc Cl|         10|            24|
|      |         A         |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| BLUD |    Immucor Inc    |         10|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| RNR  |   Renaissancere   |         10|            24|
|      |     Holdings      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| CHS  |  Chicos Fas Inc   |          9|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| CTMI |  C T I Molecular  |          9|            24|
|      |      Imaging      |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| IGT  |     Intl Game     |          9|            24|
|      |    Technology     |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| PENN | Penn Natl Gaming  |          9|            24|
|      |        Inc        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| SHFL |Shuffle Master Inc |          9|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| AMGP |  Amerigroup Corp  |          8|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| APPX |     American      |          8|            24|
|      |  Pharmaceutical   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
|  BG  |     Bunge Ltd     |          8|            24|
|      |                   |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| CECO | Career Education  |          8|            24|
|      |       Corp        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| LANC | Lancaster Colony  |          8|            24|
|      |       Corp        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|
| STTX |Steel Technologies |          8|            24|
|      |        Inc        |           |              |
|------+-------------------+-----------+--------------|



Good hunting

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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Date: 05 Nov 2002 15:03:30 -0500

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Arthur Andersen does their accounting!!

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Hi,



While doing my weekly research I came across in Yahoo Finance with the
profile for SRCL, under Ownership Institutional is appeared 123% of
float.



A definition of float is the shares left over for possible purchase
after substracting stock that is closely held (How to make money in
stocks, page 33); my doubt is: who come  do they come with this 123%?



I need some light on it.



Best Regards to all,



Luis Claramunt

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appeared=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>San Jose, Costa =
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From: Karen White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Back-Burners; Steady-Eddies; Rocking-Chair
Date: 05 Nov 2002 17:59:13 -0800

Being in the rocking chair set myself (wont mention that ive been in tech
for years)  I really like the reits i have for holding their value and good
dividends... everyone says they are at an end but not as far as i see... in
fact one of them pays a nice monthly dividend- its Realty Income Group
symbol -  O - other one I have is Health Care Properties and i think the
dividend is 7-8%.. but there are tons of REITS... The message board on HCP
on yahoo has a knowledgeable group that discusses different reits... (or at
least they did a few months ago)  Remember the old days when the widows and
orphans had utilities...scarey. Karen

At 04:08 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Interested in learning how to modify the CANSLIM criteria in order to
>locate stocks to buy 'for Mom'. Anyone have something they are willing to
>share?
>
>Thanks,
>Gene


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Does anyone know how often say in percentage terms gaps are filled. My
experience leaves me to believe that gaps are fill most of the time, giving
you a second chance to enter a stock.
The stock IM referring to that gaped up is LCI, gaped up Mon. and continued
up today.

Thanks Chris.

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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Question on gaps
Date: 05 Nov 2002 20:48:59 -0600

Chris,

I was looking at this very phenomena yesterday.  Over what time period were
you thinking?  Given enuf time every gap is filled.  Time frame is the key
factor.  If you mean quickly (i.e. a few days), I too would like to know
this bit of info.

Norm
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> Does anyone know how often say in percentage terms gaps are filled. My
> experience leaves me to believe that gaps are fill most of the time,
giving
> you a second chance to enter a stock.
> The stock IM referring to that gaped up is LCI, gaped up Mon. and
continued
> up today.
>
> Thanks Chris.
>


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It would be great if there was some data on gaps filled in specific time
lines, for example 10% of gaps are filled the first week, 25% of gaps are
filled in the first month, and 75% of all gaps are filled within the first
year.
Personally I don't have a lot of patience so I would be looking for a
pullback within a week or two, anymore than that would look more like a
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Date: 05 Nov 2002 23:45:27 -0500

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I would have to assume bad counting. I considered the possibility of =
outstanding convertible bonds or warrants being counted, but don't see =
that listed. DGO shows only 24% funds ownership. Float and issue are =
almost the same with very little management holdings.

Best bet is just ask Yahoo where they get their nrs. They likely will =
blame some third party vendor.

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Hi,

 =20
While doing my weekly research I came across in Yahoo Finance with the =
profile for SRCL, under Ownership Institutional is appeared 123% of =
float.

=20

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after substracting stock that is closely held (How to make money in =
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I need some light on it.

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<P class=3DMsoBodyText>While doing my weekly research I came across in =
Yahoo=20
Finance with the profile for SRCL, under Ownership Institutional is =
appeared=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A definition of float is the shares left =
over for=20
possible purchase after substracting stock that is closely held (How to =
make=20
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style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>do they come with this=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I need some light on =
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best Regards to all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><SPAN=20
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] back in the bullish camp
Date: 05 Nov 2002 23:46:33 -0500

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part of their business is system security, like the sequential growth =
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Um...... why OSIS?
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  bought ISSX, NSCN and OSIS today, looking for more in the net / =
computer security sector

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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling rules question
Date: 06 Nov 2002 08:46:19 -0500

Mike, I like to start with the standard max of an 8% stop loss set from my
entry point, so long as that also puts it just under the bottom of the base
line. Once I am up at least 15%, I prefer to then raise my stop loss to a
break even, then if things keep moving up, also move the stop loss to a
trailing 15%. Granted, I tend to usually do this in my head, and usually
works better when I use hard stops.

I rarely sell part of the position for only a 20% gain. I invest for long
term, and rarely without an expectation / goal of at least 100% gain. If I
feel compelled to sell for only a 20% gain, then normally I sell the entire
position. That also keeps the cost of commission from becoming a measurable
factor for me.

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Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:59 PM


All,

I know I have asked similar questions in the past, but not sure if I have
addressed this one:

If you have bought a stock, and watched it rise , say 15-20%, and being
conservative, you have sold 1/2 your position to lock in those profits, for
the other half, do you use a trailing stop (mental or real) to lock in a
minimum profit on the rest, say 5%, or do you allow it to drop as low as
the 7-8% below your original buy point, or maybe just to a break even
point?

The reason I ask is the somewhat confusing statement that WON makes in his
book about never letting a gain turn into a loss. But how much of a gain do
you have to get before you move up the stop loss from 7-8% below buy point
to a break even point, without unnecessarily getting pushed out of a
otherwise good stock that might just be undergoing a normal correction?

Also, assuming that you capital is small, such that the commission fees are
not negligible, do you include the costs of the trades in calculating the
sell prices?

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] bottoming base?
Date: 06 Nov 2002 08:50:02 -0500

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Chris, it is a "bottoming base" in that it is a classic double bottom, =
with a 3+ week handle having formed right at the pivot (center point of =
the "W"). Granted, the b/o was caused by the news of the judge upholding =
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In Tues IBD Big Picture: "Microsoft gapped out of a 3 1/2-month =
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SMD (was Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Funds)
Date: 06 Nov 2002 08:55:06 -0500

I took another look at this one, and note that the data appears stale (last
report of # of funds holding was for March 02 at 1 fund, qtr before was 2
funds, and for the two qtrs before that was also N/A). So bottom line is
that funds are not interested in it apparently, and there may either no
longer be any fund reporting holding the position, or is so small in
quantity to be inconsequential.

While I often buy stocks where funds have not yet started to accumulate, or
are at best only low single digit percentage owners, the trend on this one
appears bad.

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Tom:

      What do you make of a stock where the DG-Online stat. for funds is
"NA".  I'm looking at SMD, and it has nice aggregate number for mgt. which
is
holding the stock (39%); the weekly chart looks like I'd want to watch it;
earnings are very nice as is cash flow; it has no debt and ROE is a
spectacular 59%.  However, not knowing how many funds are holding the stock
gives me pause.

     How do you analyze a stock when the everything else seems nice, but
funds say "NA"?

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Subject: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 06 Nov 2002 09:13:58 -0500

looks to me like the conflict between a double bottom (bullish) and a
potential head and shoulders (bearish) on several major indexes is now being
resolved in favor of the bulls. With the Republicans taking control of
Congress yesterday, and the likely 25 BP cut in rates by FOMC at 2:15 PM or
so today, this rally just might have the legs to extend a way higher and
make the 20% level from the October low. If so, that makes it officially a
bull rally, and potentially the start of a new bull market.

Only time (and institutions committing big money from the sidelines) will
tell. Stay tuned.

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Subject: [CANSLIM] APPX
Date: 06 Nov 2002 09:42:10 -0600

This stock just jumped 10%.  Fundies look strong, but wondering on
everyone's interpretation of the chart.  From the weekly chart, it looks
like the stock is now breaking out of a cup with no handle, PP=$22.10, but
if you look at a daily chart, if looks like maybe cwh, with around the same
pivot point, but the volume action in the handle is all wrong, all above
average, rather than drying up.

Any help would be appreciated.


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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling rules question
Date: 06 Nov 2002 08:06:13 -0800 (PST)

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what's Murphy's Law   Everytime I take my 20% gain i.e FDP RYL etc it goes on to be 100% winner and whenever I try to hold on to get the big winner I usually end up breaking even or losing a little. GO FIGURE!
 Tom Worley <[e-mail]> wrote:Mike, I like to start with the standard max of an 8% stop loss set from my
entry point, so long as that also puts it just under the bottom of the base
line. Once I am up at least 15%, I prefer to then raise my stop loss to a
break even, then if things keep moving up, also move the stop loss to a
trailing 15%. Granted, I tend to usually do this in my head, and usually
works better when I use hard stops.

I rarely sell part of the position for only a 20% gain. I invest for long
term, and rarely without an expectation / goal of at least 100% gain. If I
feel compelled to sell for only a 20% gain, then normally I sell the entire
position. That also keeps the cost of commission from becoming a measurable
factor for me.

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Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:59 PM


All,

I know I have asked similar questions in the past, but not sure if I have
addressed this one:

If you have bought a stock, and watched it rise , say 15-20%, and being
conservative, you have sold 1/2 your position to lock in those profits, for
the other half, do you use a trailing stop (mental or real) to lock in a
minimum profit on the rest, say 5%, or do you allow it to drop as low as
the 7-8% below your original buy point, or maybe just to a break even
point?

The reason I ask is the somewhat confusing statement that WON makes in his
book about never letting a gain turn into a loss. But how much of a gain do
you have to get before you move up the stop loss from 7-8% below buy point
to a break even point, without unnecessarily getting pushed out of a
otherwise good stock that might just be undergoing a normal correction?

Also, assuming that you capital is small, such that the commission fees are
not negligible, do you include the costs of the trades in calculating the
sell prices?

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel [phone]
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<P>what's Murphy's Law   Everytime I take my 20% gain i.e FDP RYL etc it goes on to be 100% winner and whenever I try to hold on to get the big winner I usually end up breaking even or losing a little. GO FIGURE!
<P> <B><I>Tom Worley <[e-mail]></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Mike, I like to start with the standard max of an 8% stop loss set from my<BR>entry point, so long as that also puts it just under the bottom of the base<BR>line. Once I am up at least 15%, I prefer to then raise my stop loss to a<BR>break even, then if things keep moving up, also move the stop loss to a<BR>trailing 15%. Granted, I tend to usually do this in my head, and usually<BR>works better when I use hard stops.<BR><BR>I rarely sell part of the position for only a 20% gain. I invest for long<BR>term, and rarely without an expectation / goal of at least 100% gain. If I<BR>feel compelled to sell for only a 20% gain, then normally I sell the entire<BR>position. That also keeps the cost of commission from becoming a measurable<BR>factor for me.<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: <[e-mail]><BR>To: <[e-mail]><BR>Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:59 PM<BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] selling rules question<BR><BR><BR>All,<BR><BR>I know I have asked similar questions in the past, but not sure if I have<BR>addressed this one:<BR><BR>If you have bought a stock, and watched it rise , say 15-20%, and being<BR>conservative, you have sold 1/2 your position to lock in those profits, for<BR>the other half, do you use a trailing stop (mental or real) to lock in a<BR>minimum profit on the rest, say 5%, or do you allow it to drop as low as<BR>the 7-8% below your original buy point, or maybe just to a break even<BR>point?<BR><BR>The reason I ask is the somewhat confusing statement that WON makes in his<BR>book about never letting a gain turn into a loss. But how much of a gain do<BR>you have to get before you move up the stop loss from 7-8% below buy point<BR>to a break even point, without unnecessarily getting pushed out of a<BR>otherwise good stock that might just be undergoing a normal correction?<BR><BR>Also, assuming that you capital is small, such that the commission fees are<BR>not negligible, do you include the costs of the trades in calculating the<BR>sell prices?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>Mike Niemotka , PE<BR>Sr. Principal Engineer<BR>Baxter Healthcare Corporation<BR>Route 120 & Wilson Road<BR>Round Lake, IL 60073<BR>Tel [phone]<BR>Fax [phone]<BR>[e-mail]<BR><BR><BR><BR>-<BR>-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "[e-mail]"<BR>-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.<BR><BR><BR><BR>-<BR>-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "[e-mail]"<BR>-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.</BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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Subject: [CANSLIM] FCBP
Date: 06 Nov 2002 10:45:12 -0600

Noticed FCBP appears to be making a double bottom (opinions?) and has =
decent fundamentals (Last QTR Sales up 114%, Prior QTR EPS up 38%, Mgmt =
owns 35%). Volume appears to be picking up substantially over the past =
two days. What are the rules for buying double bottoms? Do they form a =
handle or do you purchase at the pivot the first time it hits? Also, =
FCBP is about to break a 2 Year price high of $32.

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Date: 06 Nov 2002 11:05:44 -0600


It looks like it is forming a handle, with a pivot point around $31.89, but
I think for a double bottom, or W pattern, the second dip is supposed to
undercut the first one.

This is a stock that is on my watch list, for the reasons you outlined.

Anyone else?


Mike Niemotka , PE
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Route 120 & Wilson Road
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Noticed FCBP appears to be making a double bottom (opinions?) and has
decent fundamentals (Last QTR Sales up 114%, Prior QTR EPS up 38%, Mgmt
owns 35%). Volume appears to be picking up substantially over the past two
days. What are the rules for buying double bottoms? Do they form a handle
or do you purchase at the pivot the first time it hits? Also, FCBP is about
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From: "David Rubin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] APPX
Date: 06 Nov 2002 12:14:08 -0500

Seems to me the breakout of a C&H was on 10/10, with a pivot under 18.
Recent activity is a correction, not a second base IMO.

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>
> This stock just jumped 10%.  Fundies look strong, but wondering on
> everyone's interpretation of the chart.  From the weekly
> chart, it looks
> like the stock is now breaking out of a cup with no handle,
> PP=$22.10, but
> if you look at a daily chart, if looks like maybe cwh, with
> around the same
> pivot point, but the volume action in the handle is all
> wrong, all above
> average, rather than drying up.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
> Mike Niemotka , PE
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From: Ian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 06 Nov 2002 09:50:29 -0800

And here I am putting on short positions again!

Ahhhh ... the conflicting opinions that make a market :)

Cheers,

Ian


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> looks to me like the conflict between a double bottom (bullish) and a
> potential head and shoulders (bearish) on several major indexes is now
being
> resolved in favor of the bulls. With the Republicans taking control of
> Congress yesterday, and the likely 25 BP cut in rates by FOMC at 2:15 PM
or
> so today, this rally just might have the legs to extend a way higher and
> make the 20% level from the October low. If so, that makes it officially a
> bull rally, and potentially the start of a new bull market.
>
> Only time (and institutions committing big money from the sidelines) will
> tell. Stay tuned.
>
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Date: 06 Nov 2002 15:55:14 -0600

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rather association by industry. I see.

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part of their business is system security, like the sequential growth =
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corps are supposedly not spending.
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Um...... why OSIS?

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bought ISSX, NSCN and OSIS today, looking for more in the net / computer =
security sector
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You left out the part IM interested in, what are you buying these days?

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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>part of their business is system security, =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
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  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:40 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] back in the bullish =
camp</DIV></DIV>
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    [mailto:[e-mail]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 04, =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>bought ISSX, NSCN and OSIS today, looking =
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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] PCLE
Date: 06 Nov 2002 15:51:05 -0800

Looks to me like this one had a strong BO on a nice
Cw/H on good volume. RS and Industry Rank look good,
with good year on year growth... except for the last
quarter.

But I have a question - Is this the second
base this chart has formed in the past 12 months?
I think I see the first one that started in December
'02, ending with a breakout in early May. I'm trying
to get a handle on this keeping track as a stock
forms multiple bases thing.....


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Date: 06 Nov 2002 23:06:22 -0500

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partially correct, Kelly, the security angle was what caught my =
interest. The chart is pretty ugly still, I saw it bumping along at the =
low side of a consolidation pattern, looks to me like a low risk entry =
for the patient long term investor, and with a trailing PE below S&P500 =
despite excellent growth, I felt (and still do) that fundies and =
association with the security sector will win out.

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Tom,

So- then your OSIS selection is not based on a chart formation but =
rather association by industry. I see.
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  To: [e-mail]
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] back in the bullish camp


  part of their business is system security, like the sequential growth =
top and bottom, and earnings forecast, especially in a period where =
corps are supposedly not spending.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Kelly Short=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:40 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] back in the bullish camp


  Um...... why OSIS?
    -----Original Message-----
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    Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:28 PM
    To: [e-mail]
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] back in the bullish camp


    bought ISSX, NSCN and OSIS today, looking for more in the net / =
computer security sector

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    You left out the part IM interested in, what are you buying these =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>part of their business is system security, =
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] APPX
Date: 06 Nov 2002 23:14:29 -0500

Mike, to me the chart is not very clear, but one feature that really stands
out is the consistency of volume action during the past 4 weeks. Each day,
up or down, volume has been well over average. Compare that to how
inconsistently it has traded since going public @ 16 last December. Looks to
me like it picked up a sponsor or two a month ago. However, it has also
dropped from 61 mutual funds owning it to 51 funds in the past 10 months. It
certainly looks like heavy accumulation during October. The funds ownership
report at the end of Q4 may answer this issue.

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This stock just jumped 10%.  Fundies look strong, but wondering on
everyone's interpretation of the chart.  From the weekly chart, it looks
like the stock is now breaking out of a cup with no handle, PP=$22.10, but
if you look at a daily chart, if looks like maybe cwh, with around the same
pivot point, but the volume action in the handle is all wrong, all above
average, rather than drying up.

Any help would be appreciated.


Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] FCBP
Date: 06 Nov 2002 23:25:49 -0500

Kelly, first some comments on the chart and its fundies.

To me, earnings are way too erratic. Past 8 qtrs were minus 20%, +9%, zero,
+29%, +13%, minus 9%, +38%, +6%.  To make the full year forecast, they have
to show 49 cents in Q4, which looks questionable to me. And with sales up
114% in the latest qtr, but earnings only up 6%, suggests to me that margins
are being hurt.

Chart wise, I see nothing resembling a double bottom (remember you want to
see something that looks like the letter "W"). This is particularly clear on
a weekly chart, the daily chart is too confusing for me. On the weekly, if I
had to force fit it into any specific pattern, it would be a LLUR, but a
volatile one.

As for your general question on buying a double bottom, normally your pivot
is just over the center point of the "W" formation. But if it started to
form a handle below that level, and was otherwise a strong "W" pattern
(second down leg undercut the first, volume in the right places of the
pattern as well as on up and down days), then I would give more weight to
the handle forming, and use the high point in the handle as the pivot if /
when I saw at least 2X ADV.

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Noticed FCBP appears to be making a double bottom (opinions?) and has decent
fundamentals (Last QTR Sales up 114%, Prior QTR EPS up 38%, Mgmt owns 35%).
Volume appears to be picking up substantially over the past two days. What
are the rules for buying double bottoms? Do they form a handle or do you
purchase at the pivot the first time it hits? Also, FCBP is about to break a
2 Year price high of $32.

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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] PCLE
Date: 07 Nov 2002 00:13:35 -0500

Robin, while the May action may have been a b/o of sorts, it was followed by
a correction that undercut the b/o, and threatened the base formed before
that. I would agree with the long c&h pattern, which would now mean the
stock is too extended to buy, but well worth holding onto. Should it return
to the 12-13 level and show more basing, might be a decent second entry
point.

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Looks to me like this one had a strong BO on a nice
Cw/H on good volume. RS and Industry Rank look good,
with good year on year growth... except for the last
quarter.

But I have a question - Is this the second
base this chart has formed in the past 12 months?
I think I see the first one that started in December
'02, ending with a breakout in early May. I'm trying
to get a handle on this keeping track as a stock
forms multiple bases thing.....


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
Date: 07 Nov 2002 08:44:33 -0600

Can someone please send me the SOD for 11-5. I missed it.

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: [CANSLIM] Re. REIT
Date: 07 Nov 2002 16:34:47 EST

     I recall several days ago, someone in this forum used REITs as a proxy=20
for buying bonds/utility-stocks. =20

     Well, I don't follow REITs, but today in IBD's Best Up Earning News AMC=
=20
made the list with a 46% increase in Earnings (also a 66% & 78.1% increase i=
n=20
sales and After Tax Margin, respectively).

     It seems to me as if AMC is in a flat base (or middle of the trough in=20=
a=20
saucer and handle formation).  The Pivot Point, I believe, would be at=20
15-15=BE, and it closed at 13.18, +=BC on about 70% ADV.  The 50 DMA is a sm=
idge=20
below the 200 DMA (and both are level-falling).

    The yield is a hefty 11.4%, debt is 0 and PE is only 8.  (With numbers=20
like this you wonder why more institutions aren't buying REITs [funds=20
invested are only 1% of the float])


jans

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From: "John Solarno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Let's play "Where are they now?"
Date: 07 Nov 2002 21:50:55 -0500

Every weekend, I download a copy of a detailed report off of a website
we all know and love that contains all of the pricing data, earnings
ratings, relative strength ratings, etc. for several thousand stocks as
of the end of the preceding week.  I keep all of those reports on my
hard drive, thinking they might prove useful SOMEDAY.

Tonight, just for fun, I decided to play a game I call "Where Are They
Now?" I went back to a report I ran about 30 trading days ago and, using
Excel and some current pricing data, I did a very clumsy analysis of the
report to see where all of these stocks now stood, subtotaled by various
criteria. (For example, how did stocks with an earnings rating between
80-99 vs. stocks with an earnings rating of 70-79 perform in the last 30
trading days?)

The results were startling, even if my analysis was, as I said, pretty
crude.  I merely looked at price today vs. price 30 trading days ago and
then sorted and subtotaled by various criteria. (I'm sure a statistician
would have a field day pointing out the faults in my methods.)

Here was the part that surprised me: the worse the ratings, the better
the stock performance!  It seemed as if no matter which criteria I used,
the "bottom of the barrel" ended up out-performing what are usually
referred to as "the top-rated stocks."

Here are the results.  (The percentage shown is the average percentage
increase of all stocks in a given category.) I have been very careful to
make sure that I am not violating any copyright laws or user agreements,
so in each case, I have invented a annoyingly cute or confusing
name/description of my own invention for each criterion just to make
sure I won't get in trouble.

I also make no claims as to what any of this analysis means.  I merely
offer it up for amusement.  (But earlier this week, the Large Picture in
that newspaper we all read DID mention that the only people making any
money right now were the bottom fishers!  I guess they weren't kidding!)

One last heartening note: notice that all of the percentages are
positive.  That means that even though some stocks went into the toilet,
overall, prices were up.

John

-----------------------


CRITERIA: The rating of the growth of a company's sales, their margin on
profit and the return on their equity. (I've assigned a fake letter
grade of my own invention which mimics the real thing. "V" is presumably
the best letter grade, "Z" the worst.)

V = 3.4%
W = 3.58%
X - 4.68%
Y = 5.57%
Z = 10.60%

CRITERIA: The stock's earnings per share

90-99:  2.82%
80-89:  3.58%
70-79:  1.75%
60-69:  3.75%
50-59:  4.07%
40-49:  7.17%
30-39:  5.74%
20-29:  8.01%
10-19:  6.19%
0-9: 9.05%

CRITERIA: The stock's strength, all things being relative

90-99: 1.67%
80-89:    3.01%
70-79:    3.39%
60-69:    3.15%
50-59:    2.63%
40-49:    4.22%
30-39:    5.70%
20-29:    4.67%
10-19:    10.19%
0-9:  10.47%

CRITERIA: Rating of the stock's group strength, all things being
relative

90-99:    0.87%
80-89:    2.28%
70-79:    0.18%
60-69:    1.98%
50-59:    0.45%
40-49:    4.53%
30-39:    8.94%
20-29:    10.39%
10-19:    6.24%
0-9: 15.34%





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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Let's play "Where are they now?"
Date: 07 Nov 2002 22:53:53 -0500

rats, John, you are giving away all my secrets to my personal success. I
much prefer future winners to current winners, looking for the stock that is
producing superb fundies, and shining in its group, while the group remains
way out of favor. Seems most of my best stocks when I found them were in
groups rated "D" or "E" at the time, as is also typical of my watch list.

For me to focus in on the internet / computer security sector was novel,
first time I was remotely "group oriented", or recognized the potential of
an entire sector in time to not only research it, but to enter before the
rest of the market already priced everything out of reach.

Next 18 months will tell if I was correct in my assessments.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:50 PM


Every weekend, I download a copy of a detailed report off of a website
we all know and love that contains all of the pricing data, earnings
ratings, relative strength ratings, etc. for several thousand stocks as
of the end of the preceding week.  I keep all of those reports on my
hard drive, thinking they might prove useful SOMEDAY.

Tonight, just for fun, I decided to play a game I call "Where Are They
Now?" I went back to a report I ran about 30 trading days ago and, using
Excel and some current pricing data, I did a very clumsy analysis of the
report to see where all of these stocks now stood, subtotaled by various
criteria. (For example, how did stocks with an earnings rating between
80-99 vs. stocks with an earnings rating of 70-79 perform in the last 30
trading days?)

The results were startling, even if my analysis was, as I said, pretty
crude.  I merely looked at price today vs. price 30 trading days ago and
then sorted and subtotaled by various criteria. (I'm sure a statistician
would have a field day pointing out the faults in my methods.)

Here was the part that surprised me: the worse the ratings, the better
the stock performance!  It seemed as if no matter which criteria I used,
the "bottom of the barrel" ended up out-performing what are usually
referred to as "the top-rated stocks."

Here are the results.  (The percentage shown is the average percentage
increase of all stocks in a given category.) I have been very careful to
make sure that I am not violating any copyright laws or user agreements,
so in each case, I have invented a annoyingly cute or confusing
name/description of my own invention for each criterion just to make
sure I won't get in trouble.

I also make no claims as to what any of this analysis means.  I merely
offer it up for amusement.  (But earlier this week, the Large Picture in
that newspaper we all read DID mention that the only people making any
money right now were the bottom fishers!  I guess they weren't kidding!)

One last heartening note: notice that all of the percentages are
positive.  That means that even though some stocks went into the toilet,
overall, prices were up.

John

-----------------------


CRITERIA: The rating of the growth of a company's sales, their margin on
profit and the return on their equity. (I've assigned a fake letter
grade of my own invention which mimics the real thing. "V" is presumably
the best letter grade, "Z" the worst.)

V = 3.4%
W = 3.58%
X - 4.68%
Y = 5.57%
Z = 10.60%

CRITERIA: The stock's earnings per share

90-99:  2.82%
80-89:  3.58%
70-79:  1.75%
60-69:  3.75%
50-59:  4.07%
40-49:  7.17%
30-39:  5.74%
20-29:  8.01%
10-19:  6.19%
0-9: 9.05%

CRITERIA: The stock's strength, all things being relative

90-99: 1.67%
80-89: 3.01%
70-79: 3.39%
60-69: 3.15%
50-59: 2.63%
40-49: 4.22%
30-39: 5.70%
20-29: 4.67%
10-19: 10.19%
0-9:  10.47%

CRITERIA: Rating of the stock's group strength, all things being
relative

90-99: 0.87%
80-89: 2.28%
70-79: 0.18%
60-69: 1.98%
50-59: 0.45%
40-49: 4.53%
30-39: 8.94%
20-29: 10.39%
10-19: 6.24%
0-9: 15.34%





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From: Kent Norman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Let's play "Where are they now?"
Date: 07 Nov 2002 20:11:03 -0800 (PST)

So could we conclude this means sector rotation? Doesn't September mark
the end of the old year for funds (and the chance to abandon old stuff)
while October is a fresh start.

My 2 cents
Kent Norman

--- John Solarno <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Every weekend, I download a copy of a detailed report off of a
> website
> we all know and love that contains all of the pricing data, earnings
> ratings, relative strength ratings, etc. for several thousand stocks
> as
> of the end of the preceding week.  I keep all of those reports on my
> hard drive, thinking they might prove useful SOMEDAY.
>
> Tonight, just for fun, I decided to play a game I call "Where Are
> They
> Now?" I went back to a report I ran about 30 trading days ago and,
> using
> Excel and some current pricing data, I did a very clumsy analysis of
> the
> report to see where all of these stocks now stood, subtotaled by
> various
> criteria. (For example, how did stocks with an earnings rating
> between
> 80-99 vs. stocks with an earnings rating of 70-79 perform in the last
> 30
> trading days?)
>
> The results were startling, even if my analysis was, as I said,
> pretty
> crude.  I merely looked at price today vs. price 30 trading days ago
> and
> then sorted and subtotaled by various criteria. (I'm sure a
> statistician
> would have a field day pointing out the faults in my methods.)
>
> Here was the part that surprised me: the worse the ratings, the
> better
> the stock performance!  It seemed as if no matter which criteria I
> used,
> the "bottom of the barrel" ended up out-performing what are usually
> referred to as "the top-rated stocks."
>
> Here are the results.  (The percentage shown is the average
> percentage
> increase of all stocks in a given category.) I have been very careful
> to
> make sure that I am not violating any copyright laws or user
> agreements,
> so in each case, I have invented a annoyingly cute or confusing
> name/description of my own invention for each criterion just to make
> sure I won't get in trouble.
>
> I also make no claims as to what any of this analysis means.  I
> merely
> offer it up for amusement.  (But earlier this week, the Large Picture
> in
> that newspaper we all read DID mention that the only people making
> any
> money right now were the bottom fishers!  I guess they weren't
> kidding!)
>
> One last heartening note: notice that all of the percentages are
> positive.  That means that even though some stocks went into the
> toilet,
> overall, prices were up.
>
> John
>
>
> -----------------------
>
>
> CRITERIA: The rating of the growth of a company's sales, their margin
> on
> profit and the return on their equity. (I've assigned a fake letter
> grade of my own invention which mimics the real thing. "V" is
> presumably
> the best letter grade, "Z" the worst.)
>
> V = 3.4%
> W = 3.58%
> X - 4.68%
> Y = 5.57%
> Z = 10.60%
>
> CRITERIA: The stock's earnings per share
>
> 90-99:  2.82%
> 80-89:  3.58%
> 70-79:  1.75%
> 60-69:  3.75%
> 50-59:  4.07%
> 40-49:  7.17%
> 30-39:  5.74%
> 20-29:  8.01%
> 10-19:  6.19%
> 0-9: 9.05%
>
> CRITERIA: The stock's strength, all things being relative
>
> 90-99: 1.67%
> 80-89:    3.01%
> 70-79:    3.39%
> 60-69:    3.15%
> 50-59:    2.63%
> 40-49:    4.22%
> 30-39:    5.70%
> 20-29:    4.67%
> 10-19:    10.19%
> 0-9:  10.47%
>
> CRITERIA: Rating of the stock's group strength, all things being
> relative
>
> 90-99:    0.87%
> 80-89:    2.28%
> 70-79:    0.18%
> 60-69:    1.98%
> 50-59:    0.45%
> 40-49:    4.53%
> 30-39:    8.94%
> 20-29:    10.39%
> 10-19:    6.24%
> 0-9: 15.34%
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Back-Burners; Steady-Eddies; Rocking-Chair
Date: 07 Nov 2002 23:18:23 -0500

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Gene, I recently ventured into this to a degree, trying to find =
something to buy for the grandkids (Lili and Ely, so LLY was the first =
one I took a look at, seemed like a natural). Dividend was a decent 2.4% =
yield or so, but chart looked terrible, so I didn't pick it up for them =
at 48 and change. Now a few months later sitting in the high 50s to low =
60s, you can hear the sound of the thumps as I kick my butt.

For me, trying to analyze a big cap stock with slow growth, but going to =
still be around in ten years, steadily making money (unless it's bought =
out, a possibility with LLY), has been difficult and still trying to get =
the hang of it.

----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:08 PM


Interested in learning how to modify the CANSLIM criteria in order to =
locate stocks to buy 'for Mom'. Anyone have something they are willing =
to share?

Thanks,
Gene
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so, but chart looked terrible, so I didn't pick it up for them at 48 and =
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slow=20
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(unless=20
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trying to=20
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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Let's play "Where are they now?"
Date: 07 Nov 2002 21:16:19 -0800

So THAT'S the problem with my Fidelity funds all this time... they've
only been buyin' the good rated stuff! (Note to self... send Fidelity
an email to start buying the crappy looking stocks....)

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of John Solarno
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:51 PM


Every weekend, I download a copy of a detailed report off of a website
we all know and love that contains all of the pricing data, earnings
ratings, relative strength ratings, etc. for several thousand stocks as
of the end of the preceding week.  I keep all of those reports on my
hard drive, thinking they might prove useful SOMEDAY.

Tonight, just for fun, I decided to play a game I call "Where Are They
Now?" I went back to a report I ran about 30 trading days ago and, using
Excel and some current pricing data, I did a very clumsy analysis of the
report to see where all of these stocks now stood, subtotaled by various
criteria. (For example, how did stocks with an earnings rating between
80-99 vs. stocks with an earnings rating of 70-79 perform in the last 30
trading days?)

The results were startling, even if my analysis was, as I said, pretty
crude.  I merely looked at price today vs. price 30 trading days ago and
then sorted and subtotaled by various criteria. (I'm sure a statistician
would have a field day pointing out the faults in my methods.)

Here was the part that surprised me: the worse the ratings, the better
the stock performance!  It seemed as if no matter which criteria I used,
the "bottom of the barrel" ended up out-performing what are usually
referred to as "the top-rated stocks."

Here are the results.  (The percentage shown is the average percentage
increase of all stocks in a given category.) I have been very careful to
make sure that I am not violating any copyright laws or user agreements,
so in each case, I have invented a annoyingly cute or confusing
name/description of my own invention for each criterion just to make
sure I won't get in trouble.

I also make no claims as to what any of this analysis means.  I merely
offer it up for amusement.  (But earlier this week, the Large Picture in
that newspaper we all read DID mention that the only people making any
money right now were the bottom fishers!  I guess they weren't kidding!)

One last heartening note: notice that all of the percentages are
positive.  That means that even though some stocks went into the toilet,
overall, prices were up.

John

-----------------------


CRITERIA: The rating of the growth of a company's sales, their margin on
profit and the return on their equity. (I've assigned a fake letter
grade of my own invention which mimics the real thing. "V" is presumably
the best letter grade, "Z" the worst.)

V = 3.4%
W = 3.58%
X - 4.68%
Y = 5.57%
Z = 10.60%

CRITERIA: The stock's earnings per share

90-99:  2.82%
80-89:  3.58%
70-79:  1.75%
60-69:  3.75%
50-59:  4.07%
40-49:  7.17%
30-39:  5.74%
20-29:  8.01%
10-19:  6.19%
0-9: 9.05%

CRITERIA: The stock's strength, all things being relative

90-99: 1.67%
80-89:    3.01%
70-79:    3.39%
60-69:    3.15%
50-59:    2.63%
40-49:    4.22%
30-39:    5.70%
20-29:    4.67%
10-19:    10.19%
0-9:  10.47%

CRITERIA: Rating of the stock's group strength, all things being
relative

90-99:    0.87%
80-89:    2.28%
70-79:    0.18%
60-69:    1.98%
50-59:    0.45%
40-49:    4.53%
30-39:    8.94%
20-29:    10.39%
10-19:    6.24%
0-9: 15.34%





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From: "Larry Worden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Let's play "Where are they now?"
Date: 08 Nov 2002 06:20:57 -0800

Robin, thanks for the work. I have also looked at this. The bottom  groups
have more up potential when the market turns up, but more down potential
when the market turns down? I would like to see your % when the market turns
down.
           Lary
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:16 PM


> So THAT'S the problem with my Fidelity funds all this time... they've
> only been buyin' the good rated stuff! (Note to self... send Fidelity
> an email to start buying the crappy looking stocks....)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of John Solarno
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:51 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [CANSLIM] Let's play "Where are they now?"
>
>
> Every weekend, I download a copy of a detailed report off of a website
> we all know and love that contains all of the pricing data, earnings
> ratings, relative strength ratings, etc. for several thousand stocks as
> of the end of the preceding week.  I keep all of those reports on my
> hard drive, thinking they might prove useful SOMEDAY.
>
> Tonight, just for fun, I decided to play a game I call "Where Are They
> Now?" I went back to a report I ran about 30 trading days ago and, using
> Excel and some current pricing data, I did a very clumsy analysis of the
> report to see where all of these stocks now stood, subtotaled by various
> criteria. (For example, how did stocks with an earnings rating between
> 80-99 vs. stocks with an earnings rating of 70-79 perform in the last 30
> trading days?)
>
> The results were startling, even if my analysis was, as I said, pretty
> crude.  I merely looked at price today vs. price 30 trading days ago and
> then sorted and subtotaled by various criteria. (I'm sure a statistician
> would have a field day pointing out the faults in my methods.)
>
> Here was the part that surprised me: the worse the ratings, the better
> the stock performance!  It seemed as if no matter which criteria I used,
> the "bottom of the barrel" ended up out-performing what are usually
> referred to as "the top-rated stocks."
>
> Here are the results.  (The percentage shown is the average percentage
> increase of all stocks in a given category.) I have been very careful to
> make sure that I am not violating any copyright laws or user agreements,
> so in each case, I have invented a annoyingly cute or confusing
> name/description of my own invention for each criterion just to make
> sure I won't get in trouble.
>
> I also make no claims as to what any of this analysis means.  I merely
> offer it up for amusement.  (But earlier this week, the Large Picture in
> that newspaper we all read DID mention that the only people making any
> money right now were the bottom fishers!  I guess they weren't kidding!)
>
> One last heartening note: notice that all of the percentages are
> positive.  That means that even though some stocks went into the toilet,
> overall, prices were up.
>
> John
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------
>
>
> CRITERIA: The rating of the growth of a company's sales, their margin on
> profit and the return on their equity. (I've assigned a fake letter
> grade of my own invention which mimics the real thing. "V" is presumably
> the best letter grade, "Z" the worst.)
>
> V = 3.4%
> W = 3.58%
> X - 4.68%
> Y = 5.57%
> Z = 10.60%
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> CRITERIA: The stock's earnings per share
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> 90-99:  2.82%
> 80-89:  3.58%
> 70-79:  1.75%
> 60-69:  3.75%
> 50-59:  4.07%
> 40-49:  7.17%
> 30-39:  5.74%
> 20-29:  8.01%
> 10-19:  6.19%
> 0-9: 9.05%
>
> CRITERIA: The stock's strength, all things being relative
>
> 90-99: 1.67%
> 80-89: 3.01%
> 70-79: 3.39%
> 60-69: 3.15%
> 50-59: 2.63%
> 40-49: 4.22%
> 30-39: 5.70%
> 20-29: 4.67%
> 10-19: 10.19%
> 0-9:  10.47%
>
> CRITERIA: Rating of the stock's group strength, all things being
> relative
>
> 90-99: 0.87%
> 80-89: 2.28%
> 70-79: 0.18%
> 60-69: 1.98%
> 50-59: 0.45%
> 40-49: 4.53%
> 30-39: 8.94%
> 20-29: 10.39%
> 10-19: 6.24%
> 0-9: 15.34%
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Subject: [CANSLIM] Will the bear market rally continue?
Date: 08 Nov 2002 08:41:10 -0600

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The number of A rated stocks in IBD's Accumulation/Distribution ratings have
increased.  Does this portend good things for this rally?

The charts can be viewed at:

http://www.adrich.com/SI/Info/A's.htm


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Date: 08 Nov 2002 09:43:09 -0500

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Fred,



This is pretty encouraging.  The A's have been one of the best
indicators of the market I have seen so far.



Rocky



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The number of A rated stocks in IBD's Accumulation/Distribution ratings
have increased.  Does this portend good things for this rally?



The charts can be viewed at:



http://www.adrich.com/SI/Info/A's.htm



  _____

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From: Ian <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] STST
Date: 08 Nov 2002 08:12:34 -0800

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Hi all:

I can't even remember the last time I proposed a stock to the group ... but here goes:

STST is a Nasdaq Small Cap stock, with an ADV of just 7000 shares, trading at $9.30 right now. I do not know their EPS/RS numbers as IBD doesn't seem to print them anymore for the Small Caps.

The company is Sensytech (STST - Nasdaq Small Cap). They are a defense contractor that manufactures passive surveillance systems - early warning systems, airborne imaging systems, communications reconnaissance systems, shipboard support systems etc... The current interest/growth in homeland security seems to bode well for Sensytech, as their backlog has increased a whopping 635% through the first 9 months of the year.

For their June Q this year, they made $0.16 per share on revenue of $9,000,000 (compared to $0.08 per share on revenue of $4.1 million a year earlier).

They currently only have about 4,000,000 shares outstanding, but they did file a share registration in late August to issue a secondary of 2,000,000 shares. I do not know the status of this, and realize that it is definitely a 'question mark' on the stock right now.

With this week's Republican victory in the House and Senate, I've got to figure that these 'under the radar' defense/security stocks have a big chance of becoming insitutional darlings over the next 2 years, as their revenues and earnings ramp. I have no idea what the current institutional interest in STST is though.

The chart is very interesting to me right now. They have been flat-lining for many months now, with $9.25 as a 4-month resistance level, and with $10.46 as the 52-week high. There have been 3 days in the past week (including the last 2 days), where ADV is much higher than normal (around 20,000) - so there has definitely been some accumulation going on. There is resistance here at the $9.25-$9.30 level, again at $10, and at the high of $10.50.

I suspect they will report Q3 earnings next week.

For those with a tolerance/taste for "illiquid CANSLIM", STST is one to watch for a significant, sustained increase in ADV, and a penetration through support levels.


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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I can't even remember the last time I proposed a stock to the
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>STST is a Nasdaq Small Cap stock, with an ADV of just
7000 shares, trading at $9.30 right now. I do not know their EPS/RS numbers
as IBD doesn't seem to print them anymore for the Small
Caps.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The company is Sensytech (STST - Nasdaq Small Cap). They are a
defense contractor that manufactures passive surveillance systems - early
warning systems, airborne imaging systems, communications reconnaissance
systems, shipboard support systems etc... The current interest/growth in
homeland security seems to bode well for Sensytech, as their backlog has
increased a whopping 635% through the first 9 months of the year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>For their June Q this year, they made $0.16 per share on
revenue of $9,000,000 (compared to $0.08 per share on revenue of $4.1
million a year earlier).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>They currently only have about 4,000,000 shares outstanding,
but they did file a share registration in late August to issue a secondary of
2,000,000 shares. I do not know the status of this, and realize that it is
definitely a 'question mark' on the stock right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>With this week's Republican victory in the House and Senate,
I've got to figure that these 'under the radar' defense/security stocks have a
big chance of becoming insitutional darlings over the next 2 years, as their
revenues and earnings ramp. I have no idea what the current institutional
interest in STST is though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The chart is very interesting to me right now. They have been
flat-lining for many months now, with $9.25 as a 4-month resistance level, and
with $10.46 as the 52-week high. There have been 3 days in the past week
(including the last 2 days), where ADV is much higher than normal (around
20,000) - so there has definitely been some accumulation going on. There is
resistance here at the $9.25-$9.30 level, again at $10, and at the high of
$10.50.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I suspect they will report Q3 earnings next week.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>For those with a tolerance/taste for "illiquid CANSLIM", STST
is one to watch for a significant, sustained increase in ADV, and a penetration
through support levels.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] STST
Date: 09 Nov 2002 19:50:45 +0000

Hi.  Just to introduce myself: Jeanne Jickling, a long-time lurker, who enjoys
this board and values it for educational reasons, thanks to the many generous
contributors.

Ian: I checked STST on the Investor's Business Daily website which I access as
a subscriber to IBD. STST rates a C+, a 72 score.  EPS 87, RS 91, industry
group strength D+; Sales,Profit Margin,Return on Equity A, Acc/Distribution B+.
Letter ranks: Technical C+, Fundamental C, Attractiveness B-, Group Technical
C, Group Fundamental C.

> Hi all:
>
> I can't even remember the last time I proposed a stock to the group ... but here
> goes:
>
> STST is a Nasdaq Small Cap stock, with an ADV of just 7000 shares, trading at
> $9.30 right now. I do not know their EPS/RS numbers as IBD doesn't seem to print
> them anymore for the Small Caps.
>
> The company is Sensytech (STST - Nasdaq Small Cap). They are a defense
> contractor that manufactures passive surveillance systems - early warning
> systems, airborne imaging systems, communications reconnaissance systems,
> shipboard support systems etc... The current interest/growth in homeland
> security seems to bode well for Sensytech, as their backlog has increased a
> whopping 635% through the first 9 months of the year.
>
> For their June Q this year, they made $0.16 per share on revenue of $9,000,000
> (compared to $0.08 per share on revenue of $4.1 million a year earlier).
>
> They currently only have about 4,000,000 shares outstanding, but they did file a > share registration in late August to issue a secondary of 2,000,000 shares. I do
> not know the status of this, and realize that it is definitely a 'question mark'
> on the stock right now.
>
> With this week's Republican victory in the House and Senate, I've got to figure
> that these 'under the radar' defense/security stocks have a big chance of
> becoming insitutional darlings over the next 2 years, as their revenues and
> earnings ramp. I have no idea what the current institutional interest in STST is
> though.
>
> The chart is very interesting to me right now. They have been flat-lining for
> many months now, with $9.25 as a 4-month resistance level, and with $10.46 as
> the 52-week high. There have been 3 days in the past week (including the last 2
> days), where ADV is much higher than normal (around 20,000) - so there has
> definitely been some accumulation going on. There is resistance here at the
> $9.25-$9.30 level, again at $10, and at the high of $10.50.
>
> I suspect they will report Q3 earnings next week.
>
> For those with a tolerance/taste for "illiquid CANSLIM", STST is one to watch
> for a significant, sustained increase in ADV, and a penetration through support
> levels.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian

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ECONOMICS
Commerce Dept says orders for US manufacturing goods declined 2.3% in =
September, bad but not as bad as the 3.0% decline expected. Most of the =
drop came from a loss in demand for aircraft. They also revised the =
durable goods component from the prior reported 5.9% drop to only 4.9%.

The Challenger survey showed that planned job cuts, based on announced =
layoff notices, rocketed to over 176K in October, highest since last =
January. Good thing unemployment is a lagging indicator, I guess. May =
just be an overreaction to September hitting a 22 month low.

Continuing a trend seen for some time, the ISM index for =
non-manufacturing sector (service, in simple words, as opposed to making =
something) continued to expand, but at a steadily slower rate. Came in =
at 53.1 for October, down from September's 53.9. Expectations were even =
worse, at 52.0.

FOMC cuts rates by a surprising 50 BP on Wednesday, and the markets here =
and globally didn't like it. One school of thinking fears the Feds see =
the economy as even worse than perceived. Another, more cynical (and =
rational) recognize that any cut of any size will make no difference =
short term. Either way, will be the last cut for a long time probably, =
and takes us to 12 cuts so far totaling 525 BP without major recovery in =
the economy. And there's only 125 BP left before they start paying us to =
borrow money. Part of the decision may have hinged on Mr. G trying to =
hold his team together since he voted against the two voting governors =
last month that wanted to cut rates then.

Wholesale inventories jumped by 0.5% in September against expectations =
of only 0.2%. Biggest cause was autos, up 2.7%.

Labor says we worked harder and produced more in Third Quarter as =
productivity jumped 4.0% on an annual basis, up from Q2's rate of only =
1.7%. It was still below expectations of a gain of 4.2%. Unit labor =
costs were up at a non-inflationary level of 0.8% and well down from =
Q2's jump of 2.2%. Compensation per hour soared 4.8% (at least for some, =
but not here for sure).

Consumer credit growth again grew rapidly, jumping to $9.9 billion in =
September, well up from August's $5.6 billion and also way over =
expectations of $5.6 billion increase. gives me some hope for finding =
another successful trip in EPIQ (would be my 6th), altho I want to watch =
their latest $30 million private placement (then again, last time they =
did that it was only about $8 million, and price went up over 50% in =
less than 6 months, but those were also different times).

Deflation and the Japan/USA economies - anyone interested in economics, =
there is an interesting article worth reading at cnn.com
http://money.cnn.com/2002/11/07/news/economy/deflation/index.htm

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WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20
This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It =
is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's =
"M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with =
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from =
(and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in =
Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is =
strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views =
or opinions of my employer.

I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, =
and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout =
scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, =
focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all =
industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my =
personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast =
for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no =
due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM =
patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases =
(shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR =
(Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM =
pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my =
personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any =
stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest.

The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend is stable, to =
slightly increasing.

ARTI - very deep cup, handle may be starting
AZO - high handle on the cup
CENT - high handle, nicer cup
CHCO - LLUR
ESPD - high handle
FESX - B6, but may be failing the base
HBHC - LLUR but getting volatile
KSWS - c&h
MNTR - rough c&h
NWRE - volume on the b/o past the pivot of the double volume not =
convincing
NXTL - interesting c&h on a low priced big cap telecom
PSUN - low volume b/o from a handle on double bottom
QSII - B3
SFNT - interesting chart since the double bottom, one of my favorites =
for the sector
SHFL - was a nice c&h, but failing the handle b/o, and on volume
SLE - B3
SXT - weak double bottom
SYMC - first b/o from the handle failing on light volume
UOPX - c&h, long handle, volume dropping
WDC - c&h

Happy hunting, and Happy Veterans Day on Monday


Tom Worley
[e-mail]
AIM: TexWorley
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>ECONOMICS</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Commerce Dept says orders for US manufacturing =
goods=20
declined 2.3% in September, bad but not as bad as the 3.0% decline =
expected.=20
Most of the drop came from a loss in demand for aircraft. They also =
revised the=20
durable goods component from the prior reported 5.9% drop to only=20
4.9%.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The Challenger survey showed that planned job =
cuts, based=20
on announced layoff notices, rocketed to over 176K in October, highest =
since=20
last January. Good thing unemployment is a lagging indicator, I guess. =
May just=20
be an overreaction to September hitting a 22 month low.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Continuing a trend seen for some time, the ISM =
index for=20
non-manufacturing sector (service, in simple words, as opposed to making =

something) continued to expand, but at a steadily slower rate. Came in =
at 53.1=20
for October, down from September's 53.9. Expectations were even worse, =
at=20
52.0.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>FOMC cuts rates by a surprising 50 BP on =
Wednesday, and=20
the markets here and globally didn't like it. One school of thinking =
fears the=20
Feds see the economy as even worse than perceived. Another, more cynical =
(and=20
rational) recognize that any cut of any size will make no difference =
short term.=20
Either way, will be the last cut for a long time probably, and takes us =
to 12=20
cuts so far totaling 525 BP without major recovery in the economy. And =
there's=20
only 125 BP left before they start paying us to borrow money. Part of =
the=20
decision may have hinged on Mr. G trying to hold his team together since =
he=20
voted against the two voting governors last month that wanted to cut =
rates=20
then.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Wholesale inventories jumped by 0.5% in =
September against=20
expectations of only 0.2%. Biggest cause was autos, up =
2.7%.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Labor says we worked harder and produced more in =
Third=20
Quarter as productivity jumped 4.0% on an annual basis, up from Q2's =
rate of=20
only 1.7%. It was still below expectations of a gain of 4.2%. Unit labor =
costs=20
were up at a non-inflationary level of 0.8% and well down from Q2's jump =
of=20
2.2%. Compensation per hour soared 4.8% (at least for some, but not here =
for=20
sure).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Consumer credit growth again grew rapidly, =
jumping to $9.9=20
billion in September, well up from August's $5.6 billion and also way =
over=20
expectations of $5.6 billion increase. gives me some hope for finding =
another=20
successful trip in EPIQ (would be my 6th), altho I want to watch their =
latest=20
$30 million private placement (then again, last time they did that it =
was only=20
about $8 million, and price went up over 50% in less than 6 months, but =
those=20
were also different times).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Deflation and the Japan/USA economies - anyone =
interested=20
in economics, there is an interesting article worth reading at=20
cnn.com</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><A=20
href=3D"http://money.cnn.com/2002/11/07/news/economy/deflation/index.htm"=
>http://money.cnn.com/2002/11/07/news/economy/deflation/index.htm</A></FO=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This list is in no way intended to recommend any =
stocks to=20
the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health =
of=20
CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some =
stocks=20
with constructive chart patterns that may be worth <STRONG><FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000>WATCHING</FONT> and learning from</STRONG> (and of =
course doing=20
your own due diligence). <FONT color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>I am employed =
in=20
Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is =
strictly=20
my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or =
opinions of=20
my employer.</EM></STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS =
ranking of 80=20
or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition =
/=20
buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet =
this general RS/EPS=20
criteria, focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I =
consider all=20
industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my =
personal=20
investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings =
forecast=20
for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. <FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000>I do no due diligence, that is your =
responsibility</FONT>. I will=20
note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) =
bottoms, or=20
flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also =
note LLUR=20
(Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM =
pattern. Rarely=20
are any of these stocks of interest to me for my personal investing due =
size,=20
price or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a =
current=20
personal financial interest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The population of stocks I am reviewing this =
weekend is=20
stable, to slightly increasing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>ARTI - very deep cup, handle may be starting</DIV>
<DIV>AZO - high handle on the cup</DIV>
<DIV>CENT - high handle, nicer cup</DIV>
<DIV>CHCO - LLUR</DIV>
<DIV>ESPD - high handle</DIV>
<DIV>FESX - B6, but may be failing the base</DIV>
<DIV>HBHC - LLUR but getting volatile</DIV>
<DIV>KSWS - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>MNTR - rough c&h</DIV>
<DIV>NWRE - volume on the b/o past the pivot of the double =
volume not=20
convincing</DIV>
<DIV>NXTL - interesting c&h on a low priced big cap telecom</DIV>
<DIV>PSUN - low volume b/o from a handle on double bottom</DIV>
<DIV>QSII - B3</DIV>
<DIV>SFNT - interesting chart since the double bottom, one of my =
favorites for=20
the sector</DIV>
<DIV>SHFL - was a nice c&h, but failing the handle b/o, and on =
volume</DIV>
<DIV>SLE - B3</DIV>
<DIV>SXT - weak double bottom</DIV>
<DIV>SYMC - first b/o from the handle failing on light volume</DIV>
<DIV>UOPX - c&h, long handle, volume dropping</DIV>
<DIV>WDC - c&h</DIV>
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From: "Dave Rogers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
Date: 10 Nov 2002 12:14:50 -0500

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Happy to Mike,

You might notice a slightly different appearance as I've added links to IBD
quotes and autofilter to the columns. I'm new to this group but have noticed
several of your posts regarding screen of the day data. I've been working on
an Excel spreadsheet to index the daily sheets and do searches for specific
stocks to determine which sheets they are in and which stocks appear most
frequently. You are welcome to a copy of it if you like on
www.excelsheets.com.

Dave Rogers

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> Can someone please send me the SOD for 11-5. I missed it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Niemotka , PE
> Sr. Principal Engineer
> Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> Route 120 & Wilson Road
> Round Lake, IL 60073
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From: Karen White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
Date: 10 Nov 2002 09:25:02 -0800

Dave - I like the spreadsheet you attached... do you update it daily?  like
for Friday the 8th?  Thanks, Karen

At 12:14 PM 11/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Happy to Mike,
>
>You might notice a slightly different appearance as I've added links to IBD
>quotes and autofilter to the columns. I'm new to this group but have noticed
>several of your posts regarding screen of the day data. I've been working on
>an Excel spreadsheet to index the daily sheets and do searches for specific
>stocks to determine which sheets they are in and which stocks appear most
>frequently. You are welcome to a copy of it if you like on
>www.excelsheets.com.
>
>Dave Rogers
>
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>From: <[e-mail]>
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:44 AM
>Subject: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
>
>
> > Can someone please send me the SOD for 11-5. I missed it.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Niemotka , PE
> > Sr. Principal Engineer
> > Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> > Route 120 & Wilson Road
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
Date: 10 Nov 2002 12:28:33 -0500

Guys, be careful. Understand that the IBD/DGO copyright cops are actively
lurking in this group, and will be on your trail if you post their
copyrighted material. Limited amounts are usually ok, but entire batches of
data will surely get you threatened with the famous FedEx letter.

What still amazes me is that IBD/DGO instead doesn't see what members want
or need to get from their products, and adapt instead rather than
threatening us.

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Dave - I like the spreadsheet you attached... do you update it daily?  like
for Friday the 8th?  Thanks, Karen

At 12:14 PM 11/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Happy to Mike,
>
>You might notice a slightly different appearance as I've added links to IBD
>quotes and autofilter to the columns. I'm new to this group but have
noticed
>several of your posts regarding screen of the day data. I've been working
on
>an Excel spreadsheet to index the daily sheets and do searches for specific
>stocks to determine which sheets they are in and which stocks appear most
>frequently. You are welcome to a copy of it if you like on
>www.excelsheets.com.
>
>Dave Rogers
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[e-mail]>
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>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:44 AM
>Subject: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
>
>
> > Can someone please send me the SOD for 11-5. I missed it.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Niemotka , PE
> > Sr. Principal Engineer
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> > Route 120 & Wilson Road
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
Date: 10 Nov 2002 13:34:22 -0500


Karen - as Tom noted the spreadsheets are copyright material of IBD so I
don't normally post them in public forums. If you are a subscriber to IBD
you can
download them yourself. If you would like to format them the way this
spreadsheet is formatted then you can get the Excel spreadsheet to do this
at www.excelsheets.com.

Dave Rogers

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> Dave - I like the spreadsheet you attached... do you update it daily?
like
> for Friday the 8th?  Thanks, Karen
>
> At 12:14 PM 11/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Happy to Mike,
> >
> >You might notice a slightly different appearance as I've added links to
IBD
> >quotes and autofilter to the columns. I'm new to this group but have
noticed
> >several of your posts regarding screen of the day data. I've been working
on
> >an Excel spreadsheet to index the daily sheets and do searches for
specific
> >stocks to determine which sheets they are in and which stocks appear most
> >frequently. You are welcome to a copy of it if you like on
> >www.excelsheets.com.
> >
> >Dave Rogers
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <[e-mail]>
> >To: <[e-mail]>
> >Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:44 AM
> >Subject: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
> >
> >
> > > Can someone please send me the SOD for 11-5. I missed it.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike Niemotka , PE
> > > Sr. Principal Engineer
> > > Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> > > Route 120 & Wilson Road
> > > Round Lake, IL 60073
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From: Karen White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
Date: 10 Nov 2002 10:59:49 -0800

Thanks dave- i should have thought of this with the conversations we have
had on this board.  o dum me!!

At 01:34 PM 11/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Karen - as Tom noted the spreadsheets are copyright material of IBD so I
>don't normally post them in public forums. If you are a subscriber to IBD
>you can
>download them yourself. If you would like to format them the way this
>spreadsheet is formatted then you can get the Excel spreadsheet to do this
>at www.excelsheets.com.
>
>Dave Rogers
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Karen White" <[e-mail]>
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 12:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
>
>
> > Dave - I like the spreadsheet you attached... do you update it daily?
>like
> > for Friday the 8th?  Thanks, Karen
> >
> > At 12:14 PM 11/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Happy to Mike,
> > >
> > >You might notice a slightly different appearance as I've added links to
>IBD
> > >quotes and autofilter to the columns. I'm new to this group but have
>noticed
> > >several of your posts regarding screen of the day data. I've been working
>on
> > >an Excel spreadsheet to index the daily sheets and do searches for
>specific
> > >stocks to determine which sheets they are in and which stocks appear most
> > >frequently. You are welcome to a copy of it if you like on
> > >www.excelsheets.com.
> > >
> > >Dave Rogers
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <[e-mail]>
> > >To: <[e-mail]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:44 AM
> > >Subject: [CANSLIM] screen of the day
> > >
> > >
> > > > Can someone please send me the SOD for 11-5. I missed it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Mike Niemotka , PE
> > > > Sr. Principal Engineer
> > > > Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> > > > Route 120 & Wilson Road
> > > > Round Lake, IL 60073
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Subject: [CANSLIM] screens of the day
Date: 11 Nov 2002 08:47:26 -0600

All,

I think that the work that Dave has done is very nice, and I hope that you
can all benefit from both of the sheets we have posted here.  It has kind
of inspired me to work some more on mine, so hopefully I will be posting
some updates soon.

Hope everyone had a nice weekend

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
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Baxter Healthcare Corporation
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From: "Dave Rogers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] screens of the day
Date: 11 Nov 2002 20:05:45 -0500

Thanks for the kind words, Mike. I seem to be having difficulty getting
emails from the list - nothing since yours and none of the emails I posted.
Can anyone tell me if the emails are just slow or do I have a problem with
my ATT email account?

Dave
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> All,
>
> I think that the work that Dave has done is very nice, and I hope that you
> can all benefit from both of the sheets we have posted here.  It has kind
> of inspired me to work some more on mine, so hopefully I will be posting
> some updates soon.
>
> Hope everyone had a nice weekend
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Niemotka , PE
> Sr. Principal Engineer
> Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> Route 120 & Wilson Road
> Round Lake, IL 60073
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> Fax [phone]
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From: "Norman Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] screens of the day
Date: 11 Nov 2002 19:08:46 -0600

Dave,

Infrequently the emails are a bit late to me also; sometimes half a day.

Norm

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> Thanks for the kind words, Mike. I seem to be having difficulty getting
> emails from the list - nothing since yours and none of the emails I
posted.
> Can anyone tell me if the emails are just slow or do I have a problem with
> my ATT email account?
>
> Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:47 AM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] screens of the day
>
>
> > All,
> >
> > I think that the work that Dave has done is very nice, and I hope that
you
> > can all benefit from both of the sheets we have posted here.  It has
kind
> > of inspired me to work some more on mine, so hopefully I will be posting
> > some updates soon.
> >
> > Hope everyone had a nice weekend
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Niemotka , PE
> > Sr. Principal Engineer
> > Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> > Route 120 & Wilson Road
> > Round Lake, IL 60073
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From: "rchodes" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] SFCC
Date: 11 Nov 2002 19:30:31 -0800

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For those of you who believe in a low handle breakout, you might want to =
take a look at SFCC.  This stock was mentioned in IBD over a year ago =
when the price increased in a parabolic manner to over $30/share.  Since =
then, it's corrected strongly, largely due to deceleration in earnings =
and revenues per share due to share dilution from secondary offerings =
and to the fact that it went up too high too fast.  In recent quarters, =
fundamentals are picking up again.

I'm not sure how to describe the chart except to say that it hit a low =
of $7.80 and has basically traded sideways from AUG-late OCT with =
resistance at $12.  It broke through the $12 mark (low handle breakout) =
on Oct 28 on average volume but the volume has exploded since the =
company announced stellar results for their 3rd quarter on Nov 6th.  =
Revenue for the 3rd quarter increased 118% compared to a year ago and =
net income per share increased from .17 fully diluted to .30 fully =
diluted.

From a strict CANSLIM perspective, it's too early to purchase this stock =
as it's still building the right side of the cup.  But if you believe in =
low handle breakouts, the price and volume action is pretty exciting.  =
It's the only stock that I own that has gone up on high volume over the =
last week.


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This=20
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parabolic manner to over $30/share.  Since then, it's corrected =
strongly,=20
largely due to deceleration in earnings and revenues per share due to =
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high too=20
fast.  In recent quarters, fundamentals are picking up =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not sure how to describe the chart =
except to=20
say that it hit a low of $7.80 and has basically traded sideways from =
AUG-late=20
OCT with resistance at $12.  It broke through the $12 mark (low =
handle=20
breakout) on Oct 28 on average volume but the volume has exploded since =
the=20
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6th. =20
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net income=20
per share increased from .17 fully diluted to .30 fully =
diluted.</FONT></DIV>
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too early=20
to purchase this stock as it's still building the right side of the =
cup. =20
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is=20
pretty exciting.  It's the only stock that I own that has gone up =
on high=20
volume over the last week.</FONT></DIV>
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] screens of the day
Date: 11 Nov 2002 21:53:52 EST

Dave:

     Me too.  Although, sometimes it's more than "infrequently".

jans


In a message dated 11/11/2002 8:12:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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<< Dave,

 Infrequently the emails are a bit late to me also; sometimes half a day.

 Norm >>

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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SFCC
Date: 11 Nov 2002 22:05:15 EST

In a message dated 11/11/2002 8:34:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20
[e-mail] writes:  << ...you might want to take a look at SFCC. =20
This stock was mentioned in IBD over a year ago when the price increased in=20=
a=20
parabolic manner to over $30/share. >>
=20
rchodes:

     Your right.  The charts (both weekly and daily look nice-especially the=
=20
hi volume surges on up days).  And like you, I'd wait (for at least when the=
=20
day penetrates- up the 200 MA (and perhaps until the 50 penetrates-up the=20
200). =20

     But what appears hinky to me is that the cash-flow is 15=A2 less than 2=
001=20
earnings.

jans

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From: "Norman Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] low vol pull-backs
Date: 11 Nov 2002 21:10:16 -0600

I'm going thru my watch list tonight checking price vol action.  I'm seeing
a lot of low-vol pullbacks in some otherwise good stocks.  Some of the
action could be handles forming, some of it is just LLUR action and some is
"something else."  Sure looks like a lot of relatively low-risk entry points
on some good stocks.  This down trend doesn't look like the others from my
chair; lot of good issues experiencing low-vol drops, not the
fall-thru-the-floor on hi-vol stuff I've been used to lately.  Is anyone
else seeing this?

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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] watching
Date: 11 Nov 2002 20:13:43 -0800

Any commments on the following:

JNC
AIB
POSS
PRGO
LFG

Thanks!

Robin


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Subject: [CANSLIM] one more
Date: 11 Nov 2002 20:17:17 -0800

EXPE also...



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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] watching
Date: 12 Nov 2002 06:32:39 -0500

Robin,

PRGO shows a chart trend down for the past year, despite over 8% of the
shares being bought back by the company. I also don't like the wild swings
in revenues and earnings.

LFG shows a forecasted 43% decline in earnings for next year, according to
DGO.

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Any commments on the following:

JNC
AIB
POSS
PRGO
LFG

Thanks!

Robin


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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: EXPE (was Re: [CANSLIM] one more)
Date: 12 Nov 2002 06:47:39 -0500

I was reading an article on Priceline over the weekend, and it was
commenting on how differently these two companies have been doing.

Appears that there may be a large number of warrants outstanding on Expedia,
if so I would recommend researching the terms under which they can be called
by the company. It's an easy way for them to raise cash if they need it, or
even if they don't.

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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 12 Nov 2002 07:04:40 -0500

I took some time this morning to look at the major indexes on a weekly chart
(I usually just study the dailies). I am growingly concerned about the
failure of any of the indexes to measurably surpass the highs set in late
August. If they cannot hold the 50 DMA, then we may be looking for new lows
before the end of the year.

I also cannot recall the last time every index chart looked exactly the same
(except for Utilities, Transportation). They are so similar, especially on
weekly charts, that I had to keep checking the chart title to be sure I was
looking at a different one.

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From: "Don Canfield" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 12 Nov 2002 11:15:59 -0600

Tom, for some time I've been noticing something similar.  I started to
notice a possible HSB developing, and then a short time ago, I noticed you
mentioned the same thing.  Now, in the NAZ, the HSB is almost picture
perfect, moving toward the right shoulder.  I'm now looking for support at
around 1200  in about 2-3 weeks, followed by a break of the neck line about
the first of the year.  That would look like a pretty neat reversal/bottom.

The other indices don't have quite as neat an HSB as NAZ, but it's still
there.

BTW, I haven't been following volume through these formations as much as I
should.  Limitations of the current chart viewer I've been using.  I just
can't get serious about this market, so I just take a peak from time to
time.

Any thoughts??

Don Canfield


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> I took some time this morning to look at the major indexes on a weekly
chart
> (I usually just study the dailies). I am growingly concerned about the
> failure of any of the indexes to measurably surpass the highs set in late
> August. If they cannot hold the 50 DMA, then we may be looking for new
lows
> before the end of the year.
>
> I also cannot recall the last time every index chart looked exactly the
same
> (except for Utilities, Transportation). They are so similar, especially on
> weekly charts, that I had to keep checking the chart title to be sure I
was
> looking at a different one.
>
> Tom Worley
> [e-mail]
> AIM: TexWorley
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] FLOAT
Date: 12 Nov 2002 17:10:58 -0600

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Hi Luis,

The percentages are difficult to calculate meaningfully unless somebody =
is double checking numbers before reporting.

It's entirely possible that when Yahoo/MarketGuide does their =
calculations that they are counting all institutions as a percentage of =
float whether or not they are insider (5%+ beneficial owners). For =
example, look at the MSN ownership summary and you will see that Bain =
and Alliance Capital are beneficial owners, but they are *also* =
institutions (about 6.7 million shares). That means that if you look at =
total percent of the float that is owned by institutions, that =
mathematically, it would turn out to be a number greater than 100%. Of =
course, that makes no logical sense, because their shares aren't =
available to easily change hands in the market unless they first report =
to the SEC. (Insider/5% Beneficial owners + Float =3D Outstanding)

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.asp

The other complication to calculating percent of the float or of the =
outstanding shares is that institutions only report once a quarter. If =
you look at the Yahoo/Marketguide report and the MSN report, you can see =
that some of the reports are outdated and that the same reporting is not =
showing on both sites. That means that if any shares have changed hands, =
the total institutional shares as a percent of the 37.5m shares =
outstanding will not add up as they should.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.asp
http://biz.yahoo.com/hd/s/srcl.html

The other possible complication to the calculations is the adjustments =
to shares based on secondary offerings and/or splits. If =
Yahoo/Marketguide and/or MSN are careless about updates, then you'll see =
discrepancies when the shares owned by institutions as a percentage of =
outstanding shares are calculated.

Now, to make things *really* complicated, when DGO reports their =
numbers, they show Management/Insiders as a % of the *outstanding* =
shares, then show Mutual Funds and Banks as a % of the *Float*!! It's =
crazy and you have to be careful when looking at one data source vs. =
another.

All in all, I don't see the actual percentage as all that important =
unless it is extraordinarily high. I'm far more interested in the =
*pattern* of ownership. That is, are more institutions continuing to buy =
or to sell their positions? I'm also interested in what the better =
quality institutions are doing. If *they* are buying, then that carries =
more weight. That said, of all the things that I use to evaluate a =
company for purchase, this is quite honestly one of the *least* =
important. I think that technical condition and basic fundamentals such =
as revenue/earnings growth are far more telling. Institutions leave =
their tracks in the price/volume charts, so looking at the detailed =
institutional ownership is really a double check more than anything.

Katherine

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: luis claramunt=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:27 AM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] FLOAT


  Hi,

   =20
  While doing my weekly research I came across in Yahoo Finance with the =
profile for SRCL, under Ownership Institutional is appeared 123% of =
float.

  =20

  A definition of float is the shares left over for possible purchase =
after substracting stock that is closely held (How to make money in =
stocks, page 33); my doubt is: who come  do they come with this 123%?

  =20

  I need some light on it.

  =20

  Best Regards to all,

  =20

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  San Jose, Costa Rica
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>The percentages are difficult to calculate meaningfully unless =
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<DIV>It's entirely possible that when Yahoo/MarketGuide does their =
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or not=20
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that=20
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<DIV>The other complication to calculating percent of the float or of =
the=20
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you look=20
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some of the=20
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sites.=20
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<DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.a=
sp">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.asp</=
A></DIV>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://biz.yahoo.com/hd/s/srcl.html">http://biz.yahoo.com/hd/s/sr=
cl.html</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The other possible complication to the calculations is the =
adjustments to=20
shares based on secondary offerings and/or splits. If Yahoo/Marketguide =
and/or=20
MSN are careless about updates, then you'll see discrepancies when the =
shares=20
owned by institutions as a percentage of outstanding shares are=20
calculated.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now, to make things *really* complicated, when DGO reports their =
numbers,=20
they show Management/Insiders as a % of the *outstanding* shares, then =
show=20
Mutual Funds and Banks as a % of the *Float*!! It's crazy and you have =
to be=20
careful when looking at one data source vs. another.</DIV>
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<DIV>All in all, I don't see the actual percentage as all that important =
unless=20
it is extraordinarily high. I'm far more interested in the *pattern* of=20
ownership. That is, are more institutions continuing to buy or to sell =
their=20
positions? I'm also interested in what the better quality institutions =
are=20
doing. If *they* are buying, then that carries more weight. That said, =
of all=20
the things that I use to evaluate a company for purchase, this is quite =
honestly=20
one of the *least* important. I think that technical condition and basic =

fundamentals such as revenue/earnings growth are far more telling. =
Institutions=20
leave their tracks in the price/volume charts, so looking at the =
detailed=20
institutional ownership is really a double check more than =
anything.</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">luis=20
  claramunt</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=[e-mail]=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 05, =
2002 9:27=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] FLOAT</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2> =20
  <P class=3DMsoBodyText>While doing my weekly research I came across in =
Yahoo=20
  Finance with the profile for SRCL, under Ownership Institutional is =
appeared=20
  123% of float.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A definition of float is the shares left =
over for=20
  possible purchase after substracting stock that is closely held (How =
to make=20
  money in stocks, page 33); my doubt is: who come<SPAN=20
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  123%?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I need some light on =
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best Regards to =
all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: =
'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: =
EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Luis=20
  Claramunt</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>San Jose, Costa =
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"
Date: 12 Nov 2002 21:48:51 -0500

Don, I think that sustained heavy volume will be a major clue to what is
going on with the institutional money. For now, there appears to me to be
uncertainty, with lots of reasons to be fearful.

Institutional investors, esp. the mutual funds, have to put the money
somewhere. But so far there doesn't seem to be conviction, and they are
ready to move the money on a moments notice.

And a lot of cash is still sidelined in money markets and bond funds. When
that goes back to work in the equity market, it should be obvious after a
few days.

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Tom, for some time I've been noticing something similar.  I started to
notice a possible HSB developing, and then a short time ago, I noticed you
mentioned the same thing.  Now, in the NAZ, the HSB is almost picture
perfect, moving toward the right shoulder.  I'm now looking for support at
around 1200  in about 2-3 weeks, followed by a break of the neck line about
the first of the year.  That would look like a pretty neat reversal/bottom.

The other indices don't have quite as neat an HSB as NAZ, but it's still
there.

BTW, I haven't been following volume through these formations as much as I
should.  Limitations of the current chart viewer I've been using.  I just
can't get serious about this market, so I just take a peak from time to
time.

Any thoughts??

Don Canfield


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> I took some time this morning to look at the major indexes on a weekly
chart
> (I usually just study the dailies). I am growingly concerned about the
> failure of any of the indexes to measurably surpass the highs set in late
> August. If they cannot hold the 50 DMA, then we may be looking for new
lows
> before the end of the year.
>
> I also cannot recall the last time every index chart looked exactly the
same
> (except for Utilities, Transportation). They are so similar, especially on
> weekly charts, that I had to keep checking the chart title to be sure I
was
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>
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Last week in IBD, on the New America page, there was a list of companies
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I don't have that list, but I am pretty sure that they print it once a
week, not sure of the day.

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
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Thanks, Mike, I will watch during the next week.
Alicia
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Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
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<P>Thanks, Mike, I will watch during the next week.
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Alicia:

     IBD prints the list each Friday (it's a thin graphic so it's easy to
overlook) on the New Americal page.  Also, they print it each Friday, so even
if you miss it once, the bus comes around again the next Friday.  I believe
that each list is compiled from the New America companies of the last 4 weeks
that IBD has researched.

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From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] SYMC
Date: 14 Nov 2002 14:03:01 -0600

Anyone following SYMC?

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From: "Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC
Date: 14 Nov 2002 20:10:33 GMT

It's been on my watch list for a few weeks.  I don't watch during the day
much though.  I was thinking it could move up soon after that short
decline.

Norm



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SYMC is facing resistance right here.
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<P>SYMC is facing resistance right here.
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Subject: [CANSLIM] GSBI
Date: 14 Nov 2002 20:26:42 -0600

Is this some type of high tight flag or is GSBI being bought out?

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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] GSBI
Date: 14 Nov 2002 20:31:15 -0600

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HI Norm,

They're to be acquired by Chittendon as of 11/8.

Katherine
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  Is this some type of high tight flag or is GSBI being bought out?

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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC
Date: 14 Nov 2002 20:30:05 -0600

After looking tonight it looks like SYMC is coming out of a very steep and
short handle on below avg vol.  Vol is suspect for a BO.  Next day or 2 will
be informative.  The action all through the base was very choppy so a choppy
handle would not surprise me.

Norm

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From: "Norman Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] GSBI
Date: 14 Nov 2002 20:35:47 -0600

Thanks K.  The chart makes more sense now.  I guess I just didn't dig deep
enuf.

Norm
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HI Norm,

They're to be acquired by Chittendon as of 11/8.

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----
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  Subject: [CANSLIM] GSBI


  Is this some type of high tight flag or is GSBI being bought out?

  Norm


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From: "Katherine Malm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC
Date: 14 Nov 2002 20:47:19 -0600

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Hi Ed & Norm,

I also don't much like the run up the right side of the cup on light =
volume (from about 10/17 to 11/1)... that plus a lack of drying volume =
at the bottom of the base and the choppy action Norm mentioned leads me =
to believe this one has some more work to do before moving on up.=20

See an annotated chart at =
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/SYMC111402.JPG

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Norman Boyd=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 8:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC


  After looking tonight it looks like SYMC is coming out of a very steep =
and
  short handle on below avg vol.  Vol is suspect for a BO.  Next day or =
2 will
  be informative.  The action all through the base was very choppy so a =
choppy
  handle would not surprise me.

  Norm

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" <[e-mail]>
  To: <[e-mail]>
  Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 2:03 PM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] SYMC


  > Anyone following SYMC?
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<DIV>Hi Ed & Norm,</DIV>
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<DIV>I also don't much like the run up the right side of the cup on =
light volume=20
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bottom of=20
the base and the choppy action Norm mentioned leads me to believe =
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<DIV>See an annotated chart at <A=20
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2002 8:30=20
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SYMC</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>After looking tonight it looks like SYMC is coming out =
of a=20
  very steep and<BR>short handle on below avg vol.  Vol is suspect =
for a=20
  BO.  Next day or 2 will<BR>be informative.  The action all =
through=20
  the base was very choppy so a choppy<BR>handle would not surprise=20
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC
Date: 14 Nov 2002 23:14:31 -0500

most of the stocks I own / follow in the computer / net security groups are
looking much like this. Interest in the group seems to be picking up, but
volume still lacking on many, just like the rest of the market.

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After looking tonight it looks like SYMC is coming out of a very steep and
short handle on below avg vol.  Vol is suspect for a BO.  Next day or 2 will
be informative.  The action all through the base was very choppy so a choppy
handle would not surprise me.

Norm

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From: "Kelly Short" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Lawsuits that settle for "undisclosed amounts"
Date: 15 Nov 2002 14:24:53 -0600

A little quiet out there so I'll take a moment to ask a question:

How could one determine from financial statements a companies monetary =
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From: "Winston Little" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Lawsuits that settle for "undisclosed amounts"
Date: 15 Nov 2002 15:58:13 -0500

1. Turn into a fly.
2. Find the office of the CEO.
3. Pitch on the wall.
4. Listen!


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From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Lawsuits that settle for "undisclosed amounts"
Date: 15 Nov 2002 15:09:25 -0600

And hope not to get swatted!!  Have a great weekend everyone!!

Ed Gjertsen II
[e-mail]

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1. Turn into a fly.
2. Find the office of the CEO.
3. Pitch on the wall.
4. Listen!


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From: "Winston Little" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Lawsuits that settle for "undisclosed amounts"
Date: 15 Nov 2002 16:26:10 -0500

A better alternative is to be the party making the settlement with the
company.


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> And hope not to get swatted!!  Have a great weekend everyone!!
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> [e-mail]
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> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Lawsuits that settle for "undisclosed amounts"
>
> 1. Turn into a fly.
> 2. Find the office of the CEO.
> 3. Pitch on the wall.
> 4. Listen!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelly Short" <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 3:24 PM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] Lawsuits that settle for "undisclosed amounts"
>
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Lawsuits that settle for "undisclosed amounts"
Date: 15 Nov 2002 16:39:23 -0600

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From: "Norman Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC
Date: 15 Nov 2002 17:43:19 -0600

Well, Ed, Katherine, Tom, et al. despite what we think about the price-vol
action, someone obviously is making money here (and having fun I might add).
SYMC cleared significant resistance in the $43 area to close at the highest
value in over 2 yrs. (maybe longer but I didn't look).  I guess I'll never
understand these type breakouts.  Below avg vol and straight up!  Maybe it's
because this is the second handle-BO in 3 weeks?  Maybe it just took a
couple of tries to get over the overhead?  I know there is a lesson in this
chart somewhere, I just have to look from a different angle.  Or maybe just
wait a few more trading days and all questions will be resolved:-)

Norm

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 8:47 PM


Hi Ed & Norm,

I also don't much like the run up the right side of the cup on light volume
(from about 10/17 to 11/1)... that plus a lack of drying volume at the
bottom of the base and the choppy action Norm mentioned leads me to believe
this one has some more work to do before moving on up.

See an annotated chart at http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/SYMC111402.JPG

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Norman Boyd
  To: [e-mail]
  Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 8:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC


  After looking tonight it looks like SYMC is coming out of a very steep and
  short handle on below avg vol.  Vol is suspect for a BO.  Next day or 2
will
  be informative.  The action all through the base was very choppy so a
choppy
  handle would not surprise me.

  Norm

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" <[e-mail]>
  To: <[e-mail]>
  Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 2:03 PM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] SYMC


  > Anyone following SYMC?
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From: Gene Ricci <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Reading Charts
Date: 15 Nov 2002 14:13:29 -0600

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Interesting and I support his guidance..... the highlighting is mine.
Gene



TSC Technical Forum
What to Watch for When Reading Charts
By Gary B. Smith
Special to RealMoney.com

Head and shoulders. Cup and handle. Bullish flag. Bearish pennant. Yes, =
all of those patterns are important things to look for in chart-reading. =
They're also pretty meaningless.=20


Just remember one thing when you look at charts: All you really need to =
watch out for are support, resistance and trend lines. Add on volume and =
price action, and pretty soon you have 99% of what you need to be an =
"expert" chart reader.=20

A good example is what I show below in charts like the Nasdaq and =
General Electric (GE:NYSE - news - commentary) . Yes, there are some =
patterns there, but even if those aren't the correct patterns, it really =
doesn't matter, as the true signals are defined by the things I =
mentioned above.=20

So, is the Nasdaq really forming a "cup and handle"? I guess, but who =
cares? The true test of that pattern is if it can close above 1420. If =
it does, then I'm bullish on that index regardless of what it's called.
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shoulders. Cup=20
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are=20
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meaningless.=20
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resistance and=20
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<P></P>A good example is what I show below in charts like the =
<B>Nasdaq</B> and=20
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some=20
patterns there, but even if those aren't the correct patterns, it really =
doesn't=20
matter, as the true signals are defined by the things I mentioned above. =

<P></P>So, is the Nasdaq really forming a "cup and handle"? I guess, but =
who=20
cares? The true test of that pattern is if it can close above 1420. If =
it does,=20
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Lawsuits that settle for "undisclosed amounts"
Date: 15 Nov 2002 21:14:47 -0500

Try going thru the latest and next 10Q / 10K report carefully. Compare the
financials, as well as read carefully all footnotes and fine print. It must
show somewhere since it is an actual cash transaction (unless done for
stock, which should also show). You likely will have to do some digging. It
might show up just as a general "litigation cost", which would include the
legal expenses.  Part of the settlement may have been covered by insurance,
in which case that part likely will not show at all. Also part might have
come from personal wallets, or insurance policies, and would also not show.

You could also try going back to the first 10Q after the legal action was
initiated, as likely they established a reserve for their expected
liability. That might quantify the amount. Keep in mind if the final
settlement was less than any reserve, then in the report after settlement
there may be a credit / gain marked as litigation, which would represent the
excess reserve.

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Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 3:24 PM


A little quiet out there so I'll take a moment to ask a question:

How could one determine from financial statements a companies monetary
liability for lawsuit settlements that are not made public?

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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 16 Nov 2002 15:30:33 EST

<PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to look?

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Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 16 Nov 2002 15:38:16 -0500

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ECONOMICS
While inflation is always a concern, it has not so far been an issue, =
allowing the Feds to lower rates to record lows, and keep them there. =
Deflation, on the other hand, is a real threat, especially to investors. =
Simply put, deflation means demand is so weak that producers are not =
able to raise prices. As investors, if corporations cannot raise prices, =
it is likely they cannot improve earnings except through cuts in costs =
(short term solution) or increase in sales volume (long term, but in a =
weak economy likely must be achieved by increasing market share, which =
means some competitors must fail). As of September, 40% of all products =
and services were priced below levels of a year prior. That, to me, is =
deflation, and one of the biggest problems Japan already faces in =
climbing out of its economic hole. This chart, from Merrill Lynch based =
on govt stats, shows the products most affected.
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Retail sales were flat in October after falling 1.3% in September. =
Excluding auto sales, the rate was up 0.7%. Expectations were for a drop =
of 0.2% overall, and an increase of 0.3% on the core rate.

Substantial renovations to bankruptcy law again failed in Congress for =
the fifth year, this time over abortion protestors using bankruptcy to =
avoid paying fines related to anti-abortion protests. This was a defeat =
for the banks and credit card companies primarily.

Wholesale prices, as if to counter fears of deflation (and ignite fears =
of inflation) jumped 1.1% in October. Biggest gainers were prices for =
gasoline (how can that be, crude prices were falling all month??), cars =
and trucks (is that why their sales were falling so fast??). Forecasts =
had been for a 0.2% increase, in line with recent months. This was the =
largest increase in 19 months. The core rate (excluding energy, food) =
was up 0.5% (biggest increase in over 3 years), also exceeding =
expectations and the trends of recent months. Start of a trend, or one =
month's anomaly?? Check back in a month. Best explanation for the recent =
rise in car/truck prices? They have lost so much money, and gone so deep =
in debt, by offering zero interest loans that they have to start making =
up for it. Just proves, there is no such thing as a free lunch, someone =
always pays the price.

Inventories increased 0.5%, above expectations of 0.1%, in September and =
reflecting the softening economy. Retail stores, car lots, and furniture =
stores were most affected. Largest increase in almost two years.

New unemployment claims came in at 388,000 and below expectations of =
396K. Four week moving average finally fell back under 400K, down 6,500 =
to 396,750.

Industrial production in October fell sharply, down 0.8%, and worse than =
expectations of a 0.3% decline.  Capacity utilization also fell, to =
75.2%, and below expectations of 75.6%. Once again, the auto industry =
contributed measurably to this.

Consumers offered a bit of hope in Univ. of Michigan's November survey =
of consumer sentiment, jumping to 85.0 from 80.6 at the end of October, =
and well over expectations of 82.0. Maybe the Christmas shopping season =
can still be saved despite everything. The expectations component also =
rose to 79.2 from 73.1.

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WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20
This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It =
is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's =
"M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with =
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from =
(and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in =
Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is =
strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views =
or opinions of my employer.

I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, =
and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout =
scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, =
focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all =
industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my =
personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast =
for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no =
due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM =
patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases =
(shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR =
(Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM =
pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my =
personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any =
stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest.

The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend is stable to =
slightly declining.

ACL - B2
BSTE - c&h
CENT - high handle
CHCO - LLUR
CHS - c&h
COCO - LLUR
COH - high handle
COLM - nice b/o from a not quite perfect handle on a double bottom
ESPD - nice reversal Thursday on volume in the high handle
EXPD - b/o Friday from the handle on volume
GRMN - nice cup forming, good volume on right side
IDXC - c&h, in my VR Fund
LXK - nice cup and handle, deep though
NUTR - B13, last 3 weeks mostly tight price action, low ADV
NWRE - short double bottom, at pivot, in my VR Fund
NXTL - high handle forming on a long cup, a telecom doing well
PSUN - double bottom
RGIS - c&h
SHRP - c&h
SLE - B4
SYY - B4

Happy Hunting,


Tom Worley
[e-mail]
AIM: TexWorley
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>While inflation is always a concern, it has not =
so far=20
been an issue, allowing the Feds to lower rates to record lows, and keep =
them=20
there. Deflation, on the other hand, is a real threat, especially to =
investors.=20
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able to=20
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likely=20
they cannot improve earnings except through cuts in costs (short term =
solution)=20
or increase in sales volume (long term, but in a weak economy likely =
must be=20
achieved by increasing market share, which means some competitors must =
fail). As=20
of September, 40% of all products and services were priced below levels =
of a=20
year prior. That, to me, is deflation, and one of the biggest problems =
Japan=20
already faces in climbing out of its economic hole. This chart, from =
Merrill=20
Lynch based on govt stats, shows the products most =
affected.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Retail sales were flat in October after falling =
1.3% in=20
September. Excluding auto sales, the rate was up 0.7%. Expectations were =
for a=20
drop of 0.2% overall, and an increase of 0.3% on the core =
rate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Substantial renovations to bankruptcy law again =
failed in=20
Congress for the fifth year, this time over abortion protestors using =
bankruptcy=20
to avoid paying fines related to anti-abortion protests. This was a =
defeat for=20
the banks and credit card companies primarily.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Wholesale prices, as if to counter fears of =
deflation (and=20
ignite fears of inflation) jumped 1.1% in October. Biggest gainers were =
prices=20
for gasoline (how can that be, crude prices were falling all month??), =
cars and=20
trucks (is that why their sales were falling so fast??). Forecasts had =
been for=20
a 0.2% increase, in line with recent months. This was the largest =
increase in 19=20
months. The core rate (excluding energy, food) was up 0.5% (biggest =
increase in=20
over 3 years), also exceeding expectations and the trends of recent =
months.=20
Start of a trend, or one month's anomaly?? Check back in a month. Best=20
explanation for the recent rise in car/truck prices? They have lost so =
much=20
money, and gone so deep in debt, by offering zero interest loans that =
they have=20
to start making up for it. Just proves, there is no such thing as a free =
lunch,=20
someone always pays the price.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Inventories increased 0.5%, above expectations =
of 0.1%, in=20
September and reflecting the softening economy. Retail stores, car lots, =
and=20
furniture stores were most affected. Largest increase in almost two=20
years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>New unemployment claims came in at 388,000 and =
below=20
expectations of 396K. Four week moving average finally fell back under =
400K,=20
down 6,500 to 396,750.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Industrial production in October fell sharply, =
down 0.8%,=20
and worse than expectations of a 0.3% decline.  Capacity =
utilization also=20
fell, to 75.2%, and below expectations of 75.6%</FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial>. Once=20
again, the auto industry contributed measurably to this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Consumers offered a bit of hope in Univ. of =
Michigan's=20
November survey of consumer sentiment, jumping to 85.0 from 80.6 at the =
end of=20
October, and well over expectations of 82.0. Maybe the Christmas =
shopping season=20
can still be saved despite everything. The expectations component also =
rose to=20
79.2 from 73.1.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This list is in no way intended to recommend any =
stocks to=20
the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health =
of=20
CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some =
stocks=20
with constructive chart patterns that may be worth <STRONG><FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000>WATCHING</FONT> and learning from</STRONG> (and of =
course doing=20
your own due diligence). <FONT color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>I am employed =
in=20
Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is =
strictly=20
my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or =
opinions of=20
my employer.</EM></STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS =
ranking of 80=20
or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition =
/=20
buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet =
this general RS/EPS=20
criteria, focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I =
consider all=20
industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my =
personal=20
investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings =
forecast=20
for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. <FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000>I do no due diligence, that is your =
responsibility</FONT>. I will=20
note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) =
bottoms, or=20
flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also =
note LLUR=20
(Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM =
pattern. Rarely=20
are any of these stocks of interest to me for my personal investing due =
size,=20
price or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a =
current=20
personal financial interest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The population of stocks I am reviewing this =
weekend is=20
stable to slightly declining.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>ACL - B2</DIV>
<DIV>BSTE - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>CENT - high handle</DIV>
<DIV>CHCO - LLUR</DIV>
<DIV>CHS - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>COCO - LLUR</DIV>
<DIV>COH - high handle</DIV>
<DIV>COLM - nice b/o from a not quite perfect handle on a double =
bottom</DIV>
<DIV>ESPD - nice reversal Thursday on volume in the high handle</DIV>
<DIV>EXPD - b/o Friday from the handle on volume</DIV>
<DIV>GRMN - nice cup forming, good volume on right side</DIV>
<DIV>IDXC - c&h, in my VR Fund</DIV>
<DIV>LXK - nice cup and handle, deep though</DIV>
<DIV>NUTR - B13, last 3 weeks mostly tight price action, low ADV</DIV>
<DIV>NWRE - short double bottom, at pivot, in my VR Fund</DIV>
<DIV>NXTL - high handle forming on a long cup, a telecom doing =
well</DIV>
<DIV>PSUN - double bottom</DIV>
<DIV>RGIS - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>SHRP - c&h</DIV>
<DIV>SLE - B4</DIV>
<DIV>SYY - B4</DIV>
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<DIV>Happy Hunting,</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tom Worley<BR></FONT><A=20
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From: "Katherine Malm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 16 Nov 2002 16:39:21 -0600

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Hi Bikear,

You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are =
plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow =
you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. =
For example:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DSBUX
http://www.bigcharts.com
http://www.clearstation.com

If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD =
charts show, see
http://www.stockcharts.com

If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see
http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php

If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid =
products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

Katherine

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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there =
are=20
plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow =
you to=20
include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. For=20
example:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3D=
SBUX">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DS=
BUX</A></DIV>
<DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.bigcharts.com">http://www.bigcharts.com</A></DIV>
<DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.clearstation.com">http://www.clearstation.com</A></DIV=
>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the =
IBD=20
charts show, see</DIV>
<DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.stockcharts.com">http://www.stockcharts.com</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over =
time,=20
see</DIV>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php">http://www.cwhcharts=
.com/charts/kmchart.php</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid =
products=20
such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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Date: 16 Nov 2002 20:18:18 EST


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Thanks for the wrap-up, as usual, Tom. The sector deflation chart is really
helpful. Did Merrill happen to do one on sectors that actually could raise
prices? That would be interesting to see too, if so. Companies that can raise
prices will be that much better off profitwise. Healthcare comes to mind--not
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Thanks for the wrap-up, as usual, Tom. The sector deflation chart is really helpful. Did Merrill happen to do one on sectors that actually could raise prices? That would be interesting to see too, if so. Companies that can raise prices will be that much better off profitwise. Healthcare comes to mind--not too many others though.</FONT></HTML>

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From: "Duke Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 16 Nov 2002 21:41:04 -0500

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Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten
days ago.

Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

Duke

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[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM


Hi Bikear,

You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are
plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow
you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc.
For example:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX
http://www.bigcharts.com
http://www.clearstation.com

If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD
charts show, see
http://www.stockcharts.com

If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see
http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php

If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid
products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

Katherine


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<PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to
look?

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Let me throw my =
two cents=20
in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten days ago. =20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Just flat out =
decided not=20
to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  [e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]]=20
  <B>On Behalf Of </B>Katherine Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November =
16, 2002=20
  5:39 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [e-mail]<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
  [CANSLIM] stock chart<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>Hi Bikear,</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there =
are=20
  plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow =
you to=20
  include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. For=20
  example:</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3D=
SBUX">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DS=
BUX</A></DIV>
  <DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.bigcharts.com">http://www.bigcharts.com</A></DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.clearstation.com">http://www.clearstation.com</A></DIV=
>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as =
the IBD=20
  charts show, see</DIV>
  <DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.stockcharts.com">http://www.stockcharts.com</A></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over =
time,=20
  see</DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php">http://www.cwhcharts=
.com/charts/kmchart.php</A></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid =
products=20
  such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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    <A title=[e-mail] =
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 16 Nov 2002 21:40:12 -0500

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Messagewhy ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years

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Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM


Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten =
days ago. =20

Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

Duke
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[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
  Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM
  To: [e-mail]
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


  Hi Bikear,

  You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are =
plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow =
you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. =
For example:

  http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DSBUX
  http://www.bigcharts.com
  http://www.clearstation.com

  If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD =
charts show, see
  http://www.stockcharts.com

  If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, =
see
  http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php

  If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid =
products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

  Katherine

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    To: [e-mail]=20
    Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


    <PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Let me throw my =
two cents=20
in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten days ago. =20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Just flat out =
decided not=20
to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT =
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sion.com</A>=20
  [mailto:[e-mail]] <B>On Behalf Of =
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  Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
  Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>Hi Bikear,</DIV>
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are=20
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you to=20
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  example:</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3D=
SBUX">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DS=
BUX</A></DIV>
  <DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.bigcharts.com">http://www.bigcharts.com</A></DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.clearstation.com">http://www.clearstation.com</A></DIV=
>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as =
the IBD=20
  charts show, see</DIV>
  <DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.stockcharts.com">http://www.stockcharts.com</A></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over =
time,=20
  see</DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php">http://www.cwhcharts=
.com/charts/kmchart.php</A></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid =
products=20
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  <DIV> </DIV>
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    <A title=[e-mail] =
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2002 2:30=20
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chart</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV><PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is =
a good=20
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"<A=20
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 16 Nov 2002 21:46:22 -0500

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MY POINT PRECISELY!!

d

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:40 PM


why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM

Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten
days ago.

Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

Duke

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM


Hi Bikear,

You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are
plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow
you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc.
For example:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX
http://www.bigcharts.com
http://www.clearstation.com

If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD
charts show, see
http://www.stockcharts.com

If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see
http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php

If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid
products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

Katherine


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM

<PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to
look?

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D357114602-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>MY POINT=20
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  [e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]]=20
  <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom Worley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, =
2002=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for =
many=20
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  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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  Miller</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[e-mail]=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
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  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Let me throw =
my two cents=20
  in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten days ago. =20
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face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Just flat out =
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Worely!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A =

    =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]=
sion.com</A>=20
    [mailto:[e-mail]] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Katherine=20
    Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
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    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but =
there are=20
    plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will =
allow you to=20
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    example:</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3D=
SBUX">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DS=
BUX</A></DIV>
    <DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.bigcharts.com">http://www.bigcharts.com</A></DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.clearstation.com">http://www.clearstation.com</A></DIV=
>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as =
the IBD=20
    charts show, see</DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.stockcharts.com">http://www.stockcharts.com</A></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over =
time,=20
    see</DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php">http://www.cwhcharts=
.com/charts/kmchart.php</A></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to =
paid=20
    products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
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From: "inderjit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] deflating list <was Worley's Weekend Weeview>
Date: 16 Nov 2002 22:20:24 -0500

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This canslim list also seems to be deflating at least in numbers over
last few months now. Does this means people are loosing interest or just
scared of threats from the won companies?

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 3:38 PM

ECONOMICS
While inflation is always a concern, it has not so far been an issue,
allowing the Feds to lower rates to record lows, and keep them there.
Deflation, on the other hand, is a real threat, especially to investors.
Simply put, deflation means demand is so weak that producers are not
able to raise prices. As investors, if corporations cannot raise prices,
it is likely they cannot improve earnings except through cuts in costs
(short term solution) or increase in sales volume (long term, but in a
weak economy likely must be achieved by increasing market share, which
means some competitors must fail). As of September, 40% of all products
and services were priced below levels of a year prior. That, to me, is
deflation, and one of the biggest problems Japan already faces in
climbing out of its economic hole. This chart, from Merrill Lynch based
on govt stats, shows the products most affected.

  _____

Retail sales were flat in October after falling 1.3% in September.
Excluding auto sales, the rate was up 0.7%. Expectations were for a drop
of 0.2% overall, and an increase of 0.3% on the core rate.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>This canslim list also seems to be deflating at least =
in
numbers over last few months now. Does this means people are loosing =
interest
or just scared of threats from the won =
companies?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
[e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tom Worley<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"11" Day=3D"16" Year=3D"2002"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Saturday, November 16, =
2002</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"15" Minute=3D"38"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CANSLIM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [CANSLIM] =
Worley's
Weekend Weeview</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ECONOMICS</span></font></b><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>While inflation is always a =
concern,
it has not so far been an issue, allowing the Feds to lower rates to =
record
lows, and keep them there. Deflation, on the other hand, is a real =
threat,
especially to investors. Simply put, deflation means demand is so weak =
that
producers are not able to raise prices. As investors, if corporations =
cannot
raise prices, it is likely they cannot improve earnings except through =
cuts in
costs (short term solution) or increase in sales volume (long term, but =
in a
weak economy likely must be achieved by increasing market share, which =
means
some competitors must fail). As of September, 40% of all products and =
services
were priced below levels of a year prior. That, to me, is deflation, and =
one of
the biggest problems </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font
  face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-family:Arial'>Japan</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-=
region><font
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'> already faces in =
climbing out of
its economic hole. This chart, from Merrill Lynch based on govt stats, =
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From: "Bill Triffet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 16 Nov 2002 22:05:52 -0800

I wonder if this is contagious? Mine runs out this month and I'm not
renewing either. I can't believe they don't give a discount for continuing
subscribers.

I would say that in the begining, IBD had some features that were very
usefull to me, but with the growth of free data since then - it's time to
move on.

-Bill


Duke Miller wrote:
> Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about
> ten days ago.
>
> Just flat out decided not to renew.





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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 17 Nov 2002 10:06:25 -0500

Sad thing, for me, is that I still consider IBD far superior to WSJ for the
individual investor. And that's without having ever experiencing the online
benefits of being a subscriber. One of my co-workers just joined Motley
Fool, and they gave him something like a two or three MONTH free
subscription to WSJ.

Maybe WSJ is more interested in taking market share during these lackluster
investing periods?

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I wonder if this is contagious? Mine runs out this month and I'm not
renewing either. I can't believe they don't give a discount for continuing
subscribers.

I would say that in the begining, IBD had some features that were very
usefull to me, but with the growth of free data since then - it's time to
move on.

-Bill


Duke Miller wrote:
> Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about
> ten days ago.
>
> Just flat out decided not to renew.





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Date: 17 Nov 2002 11:44:19 EST

<PRE>what charts are you guys using?

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Date: 17 Nov 2002 10:08:54 -0800

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MessageNow let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's =
concept of CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a =
subscription to his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find =
the quality stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where =
The Big Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This follows =
everything that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then how do =
you find those same stocks?

JC
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tom Worley=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


  why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Duke Miller=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart


  Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about =
ten days ago. =20

  Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

  Duke
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
    Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM
    To: [e-mail]
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


    Hi Bikear,

    You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there =
are plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will =
allow you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, =
etc. For example:

    =
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DSBUX
    http://www.bigcharts.com
    http://www.clearstation.com

    If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the =
IBD charts show, see
    http://www.stockcharts.com

    If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, =
see
    http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php

    If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid =
products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

    Katherine

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: [e-mail]=20
      To: [e-mail]=20
      Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


      <PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place =
to look?

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chart</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for =
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  <DIV> </DIV>
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  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[e-mail]=20
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href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
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  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Let me throw =
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  in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten days ago. =20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Just flat out =
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Worely!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    [mailto:[e-mail]] <B>On Behalf Of =
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    <DIV>Hi Bikear,</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but =
there are=20
    plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will =
allow you to=20
    include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. For =

    example:</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3D=
SBUX">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DS=
BUX</A></DIV>
    <DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.bigcharts.com">http://www.bigcharts.com</A></DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.clearstation.com">http://www.clearstation.com</A></DIV=
>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as =
the IBD=20
    charts show, see</DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
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Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview
Date: 17 Nov 2002 13:15:00 -0500

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Good thing that we don't make real goods like we used to eh?  Hey its
China's or Mexico's problem now.  :-)





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Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 3:38 PM



ECONOMICS

While inflation is always a concern, it has not so far been an issue,
allowing the Feds to lower rates to record lows, and keep them there.
Deflation, on the other hand, is a real threat, especially to investors.
Simply put, deflation means demand is so weak that producers are not
able to raise prices. As investors, if corporations cannot raise prices,
it is likely they cannot improve earnings except through cuts in costs
(short term solution) or increase in sales volume (long term, but in a
weak economy likely must be achieved by increasing market share, which
means some competitors must fail). As of September, 40% of all products
and services were priced below levels of a year prior. That, to me, is
deflation, and one of the biggest problems Japan already faces in
climbing out of its economic hole. This chart, from Merrill Lynch based
on govt stats, shows the products most affected.



  _____

Retail sales were flat in October after falling 1.3% in September.
Excluding auto sales, the rate was up 0.7%. Expectations were for a drop
of 0.2% overall, and an increase of 0.3% on the core rate.



Substantial renovations to bankruptcy law again failed in Congress for
the fifth year, this time over abortion protestors using bankruptcy to
avoid paying fines related to anti-abortion protests. This was a defeat
for the banks and credit card companies primarily.



Wholesale prices, as if to counter fears of deflation (and ignite fears
of inflation) jumped 1.1% in October. Biggest gainers were prices for
gasoline (how can that be, crude prices were falling all month??), cars
and trucks (is that why their sales were falling so fast??). Forecasts
had been for a 0.2% increase, in line with recent months. This was the
largest increase in 19 months. The core rate (excluding energy, food)
was up 0.5% (biggest increase in over 3 years), also exceeding
expectations and the trends of recent months. Start of a trend, or one
month's anomaly?? Check back in a month. Best explanation for the recent
rise in car/truck prices? They have lost so much money, and gone so deep
in debt, by offering zero interest loans that they have to start making
up for it. Just proves, there is no such thing as a free lunch, someone
always pays the price.



Inventories increased 0.5%, above expectations of 0.1%, in September and
reflecting the softening economy. Retail stores, car lots, and furniture
stores were most affected. Largest increase in almost two years.



New unemployment claims came in at 388,000 and below expectations of
396K. Four week moving average finally fell back under 400K, down 6,500
to 396,750.



Industrial production in October fell sharply, down 0.8%, and worse than
expectations of a 0.3% decline.  Capacity utilization also fell, to
75.2%, and below expectations of 75.6%. Once again, the auto industry
contributed measurably to this.



Consumers offered a bit of hope in Univ. of Michigan's November survey
of consumer sentiment, jumping to 85.0 from 80.6 at the end of October,
and well over expectations of 82.0. Maybe the Christmas shopping season
can still be saved despite everything. The expectations component also
rose to 79.2 from 73.1.

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WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES

This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It
is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's
"M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with
constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from
(and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in
Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is
strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views
or opinions of my employer.



I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better,
and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout
scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria,
focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all
industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my
personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast
for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no
due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM
patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases
(shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR
(Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM
pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my
personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any
stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest.



The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend is stable to
slightly declining.



ACL - B2

BSTE - c&h

CENT - high handle

CHCO - LLUR

CHS - c&h

COCO - LLUR

COH - high handle

COLM - nice b/o from a not quite perfect handle on a double bottom

ESPD - nice reversal Thursday on volume in the high handle

EXPD - b/o Friday from the handle on volume

GRMN - nice cup forming, good volume on right side

IDXC - c&h, in my VR Fund

LXK - nice cup and handle, deep though

NUTR - B13, last 3 weeks mostly tight price action, low ADV

NWRE - short double bottom, at pivot, in my VR Fund

NXTL - high handle forming on a long cup, a telecom doing well

PSUN - double bottom

RGIS - c&h

SHRP - c&h

SLE - B4

SYY - B4



Happy Hunting,





Tom Worley
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [CANSLIM] =
Worley's
Weekend Weeview</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>While inflation is always a =
concern,
it has not so far been an issue, allowing the Feds to lower rates to =
record
lows, and keep them there. Deflation, on the other hand, is a real =
threat,
especially to investors. Simply put, deflation means demand is so weak =
that
producers are not able to raise prices. As investors, if corporations =
cannot
raise prices, it is likely they cannot improve earnings except through =
cuts in
costs (short term solution) or increase in sales volume (long term, but =
in a
weak economy likely must be achieved by increasing market share, which =
means
some competitors must fail). As of September, 40% of all products and =
services
were priced below levels of a year prior. That, to me, is deflation, and =
one of
the biggest problems Japan already faces in climbing out of its economic =
hole.
This chart, from Merrill Lynch based on govt stats, shows the products =
most
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October
after falling 1.3% in September. Excluding auto sales, the rate was up =
0.7%.
Expectations were for a drop of 0.2% overall, and an increase of 0.3% on =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Substantial renovations to
bankruptcy law again failed in Congress for the fifth year, this time =
over
abortion protestors using bankruptcy to avoid paying fines related to
anti-abortion protests. This was a defeat for the banks and credit card
companies primarily.</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Wholesale prices, as if to =
counter
fears of deflation (and ignite fears of inflation) jumped 1.1% in =
October.
Biggest gainers were prices for gasoline (how can that be, crude prices =
were
falling all month??), cars and trucks (is that why their sales were =
falling so
fast??). Forecasts had been for a 0.2% increase, in line with recent =
months.
This was the largest increase in 19 months. The core rate (excluding =
energy,
food) was up 0.5% (biggest increase in over 3 years), also exceeding
expectations and the trends of recent months. Start of a trend, or one =
month's
anomaly?? Check back in a month. Best explanation for the recent rise in
car/truck prices? They have lost so much money, and gone so deep in =
debt, by
offering zero interest loans that they have to start making up for it. =
Just
proves, there is no such thing as a free lunch, someone always pays the =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Inventories increased 0.5%, =
above
expectations of 0.1%, in September and reflecting the softening economy. =
Retail
stores, car lots, and furniture stores were most affected. Largest =
increase in almost
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388,000 and below expectations of 396K. Four week moving average finally =
fell
back under 400K, down 6,500 to 396,750.</span></font></p>

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October
fell sharply, down 0.8%, and worse than expectations of a 0.3% =
decline.
Capacity utilization also fell, to 75.2%, and below expectations of =
75.6%. Once
again, the auto industry contributed measurably to =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Consumers offered a bit of =
hope in
Univ. of Michigan's November survey of consumer sentiment, jumping to =
85.0 from
80.6 at the end of October, and well over expectations of 82.0. Maybe =
the
Christmas shopping season can still be saved despite everything. The
expectations component also rose to 79.2 from 73.1.</span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This list is in no way =
intended to
recommend any stocks to the group. It is a part of my regular personal
assessment of the health of CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name =
implies,
only intended to identify some stocks with constructive chart patterns =
that may
be worth <strong><b><font color=3Dred face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-family:Arial;
color:red'>WATCHING</span></font></b></strong><strong><b><font =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-family:Arial'> and learning =
from</span></font></b></strong> (and of
course doing your own due diligence). <em><b><i><font color=3Dblue =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>I am employed in
Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is
strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views =
or
opinions of my employer.</span></font></i></b></em></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I typically list stocks =
with both RS
and EPS ranking of 80 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing =
any
merger / acquisition / buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet
this general RS/EPS criteria, focusing on ones at or close to =
a new
12 month high. I consider all industry groups and prices, even those I =
will not
consider for my personal investing. I no longer will actively
consider earnings forecast for this year and next due the confusing =
data
presented by DGO. <font color=3Dred><span style=3D'color:red'>I do no =
due
diligence, that is your responsibility</span></font>. I will note any =
CANSLIM
patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat =
bases
(shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also =
note LLUR
(Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM =
pattern.
Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my personal =
investing due
size, price or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a =
current
personal financial interest.</span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The population of stocks I =
am
reviewing this weekend is stable to slightly =
declining.</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ACL - B2</span></font></p>

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c&h</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>CENT - high =
handle</span></font></p>

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LLUR</span></font></p>

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c&h</span></font></p>

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LLUR</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>COH - high =
handle</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>COLM - nice b/o from a not =
quite
perfect handle on a double bottom</span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ESPD - nice reversal =
Thursday on
volume in the high handle</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>EXPD - b/o Friday from the =
handle on
volume</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>GRMN - nice cup forming, =
good volume
on right side</span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>IDXC - c&h, in my VR =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>LXK - nice cup and handle, =
deep
though</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>NUTR - B13, last 3 weeks =
mostly
tight price action, low ADV</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>NWRE - short double bottom, =
at
pivot, in my VR Fund</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>NXTL - high handle forming =
on a long
cup, a telecom doing well</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>PSUN - double =
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c&h</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>SLE - B4</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>SYY - B4</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Tom Worley<br>
</span></font><a href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]"><font =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-family:Arial'>[e-mail]</span></font></a><br>
<font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>AIM: =
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 17 Nov 2002 13:43:19 -0500

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MessageJohn, I do my own screens elsewhere, then use DGO to check for =
the CANSLIM data.

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Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 1:08 PM


Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of =
CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to =
his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality =
stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big =
Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This follows everything =
that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then how do you find =
those same stocks?

JC
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tom Worley=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


  why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Duke Miller=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart


  Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about =
ten days ago. =20

  Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

  Duke
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
    Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM
    To: [e-mail]
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


    Hi Bikear,

    You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there =
are plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will =
allow you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, =
etc. For example:

    =
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DSBUX
    http://www.bigcharts.com
    http://www.clearstation.com

    If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the =
IBD charts show, see
    http://www.stockcharts.com

    If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, =
see
    http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php

    If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid =
products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

    Katherine

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: [e-mail]=20
      To: [e-mail]=20
      Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


      <PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place =
to look?

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now let me get this straight. This =
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do you=20
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IBD's=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>JC</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for =
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  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">Duke=20
  Miller</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[e-mail]=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Let me throw =
my two cents=20
  in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten days ago. =20
  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Just flat out =
decided not=20
  to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. =
Worely!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A =

    =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]=
sion.com</A>=20
    [mailto:[e-mail]] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Katherine=20
    Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
    Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>Hi Bikear,</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but =
there are=20
    plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will =
allow you to=20
    include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. For =

    example:</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3D=
SBUX">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DS=
BUX</A></DIV>
    <DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.bigcharts.com">http://www.bigcharts.com</A></DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.clearstation.com">http://www.clearstation.com</A></DIV=
>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as =
the IBD=20
    charts show, see</DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.stockcharts.com">http://www.stockcharts.com</A></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over =
time,=20
    see</DIV>
    <DIV><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php">http://www.cwhcharts=
.com/charts/kmchart.php</A></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to =
paid=20
    products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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      <DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=[e-mail]=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November =
16, 2002=20
      2:30 PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
stock=20
      chart</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV><PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what =
is a good=20
      chart place to look?<BR><BR>-<BR>-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email =
"<A=20
      =
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 17 Nov 2002 14:56:42 EST


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In a message dated 11/17/2002 12:10:16 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:


> Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of
> CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to his
> paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality stocks that
> the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big Money's Flowing to
> get started with my lists.  This follows everything that WON teaches.  If
> you do not get the paper, then how do you find those same stocks?
>

JC,

Almost everything that IBD provides can be calculated and screened thru
subscriptions to other data services such as AAII Stock Investor Pro and
TC2000.  These relatively inexpensive services did not exist when IBD was
created but are popping up regularly since the internet has made it into
everyones home.  I am hoping that IBD recognizes this and somehow provides
more data or it will eventually go out of business.  DGO provides services to
screen stocks but they are extremely overpriced and under featured based on
what is available for free of fee elsewhere.

I subscribe to IBD because I like the articles and the constant reminders of
CANSLIM rules, but not because I cannot find stocks that have the best IBD
rankings without IBD.  In fact, using only IBD EPS ranking stocks of 80 or
better will keep one out of some of the future best performing stocks.  (See
a recent "Ask Bill" question as IBD states this.)  By using a tool that
screens the fundamentals instead of the rankings, one will find the best
stocks that may miss some arbitrary cut off by a statistically anomally.  By
this I mean it makes more sense to screen for companies meeting CANSLIM
criteria than to look at a subset of stocks that a good growers to determine
if they meet CANSLIM criteria.  Stocks that meet CANSLIM criteria will
magically have good IBD rankings.  If I wanted I could buy one IBD every week
or two for verification of my data.

To try to duplicate the actual IBD rankings requires some programming
knowledge and therefore everyone cannot do it.  I do it as I don't want to
tie my future to a paper that may go out of business at some point.  But my
point is that IBD does not do anything mystical to generate this information
and the rankings are not the most important thing needed to find quality
growers.  The data behind the rankings is more important and the data is not
available from IBD.

Andy

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated 11/17/2002 12:10:16 PM Central Standard Time, [e-mail] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This follows everything that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then how do you find those same stocks?</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
JC,<BR>
<BR>
Almost everything that IBD provides can be calculated and screened thru subscriptions to other data services such as AAII Stock Investor Pro and TC2000.  These relatively inexpensive services did not exist when IBD was created but are popping up regularly since the internet has made it into everyones home.  I am hoping that IBD recognizes this and somehow provides more data or it will eventually go out of business.  DGO provides services to screen stocks but they are extremely overpriced and under featured based on what is available for free of fee elsewhere.<BR>
<BR>
I subscribe to IBD because I like the articles and the constant reminders of CANSLIM rules, but not because I cannot find stocks that have the best IBD rankings without IBD.  In fact, using only IBD EPS ranking stocks of 80 or better will keep one out of some of the future best performing stocks.  (See a recent "Ask Bill" question as IBD states this.)  By using a tool that screens the fundamentals instead of the rankings, one will find the best stocks that may miss some arbitrary cut off by a statistically anomally.  By this I mean it makes more sense to screen for companies meeting CANSLIM criteria than to look at a subset of stocks that a good growers to determine if they meet CANSLIM criteria.  Stocks that meet CANSLIM criteria will magically have good IBD rankings.  If I wanted I could buy one IBD every week or two for verification of my data.<BR>
<BR>
To try to duplicate the actual IBD rankings requires some programming knowledge and therefore everyone cannot do it.  I do it as I don't want to tie my future to a paper that may go out of business at some point.  But my point is that IBD does not do anything mystical to generate this information and the rankings are not the most important thing needed to find quality growers.  The data behind the rankings is more important and the data is not available from IBD.<BR>
<BR>
Andy</FONT></HTML>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 17 Nov 2002 13:23:44 EST


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I am with you John. I subscribe to IBD and DGO because they take all of the
labor out of the screening process for both fundamental and Technical
evaluations. When I find a small group of stocks that I like I can go
elsewhere for more information if I wish. There may be cheaper ways to
approach the process but I don't know of another system that identifies
CANSLIM candidates better or faster.

Charley

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>I am with you John. I subscribe to IBD and DGO because they take all of the labor out of the screening process for both fundamental and Technical evaluations. When I find a small group of stocks that I like I can go elsewhere for more information if I wish. There may be cheaper ways to approach the process but I don't know of another system that identifies CANSLIM candidates better or faster.
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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 17 Nov 2002 13:34:46 -0800

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I always thought that the real benefit of IBD and DGO was the
fact that they made it easier to get at info. (I sure as heck don't
read IBD for the articles!!!!!) The data's out there in other forms,
I'm sure, but for someone who only has a limited amount of time
to learn and track this stuff, it's worth the dollars to at least get
the basic info all in one place... and then spend additional time
digging elsewhere for more detail. Trying to work through a steady diet of
WSJ, Fortune, Forbes, Barrons, BWeek, Economist, etc. pretty
much takes up the rest of my time anyway! ;-)

 -----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of [e-mail]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:24 AM


  I am with you John. I subscribe to IBD and DGO because they take all of
the labor out of the screening process for both fundamental and Technical
evaluations. When I find a small group of stocks that I like I can go
elsewhere for more information if I wish. There may be cheaper ways to
approach the process but I don't know of another system that identifies
CANSLIM candidates better or faster.

  Charley

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D280333021-17112002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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always thought that the real benefit of IBD and DGO was =
the</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D280333021-17112002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>fact=20
that they made it easier to get at info. (I sure as heck=20
don't</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D280333021-17112002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>read=20
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forms,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>I'm=20
sure, but for someone who only has a limited amount of =
time</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>to=20
learn and track this stuff, it's worth the dollars to at least=20
get</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D280333021-17112002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>the=20
basic info all in one place... and then spend additional=20
time</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D280333021-17112002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>digging elsewhere for more detail. Trying to work through a =
steady diet=20
of</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D280333021-17112002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>WSJ,=20
Fortune, Forbes, Barrons, BWeek, Economist, etc. =
pretty</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D280333021-17112002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>much=20
takes up the rest of my time anyway! ;-) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D280333021-17112002></SPAN><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
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Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
[e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>[e-mail]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 17, =
2002 10:24=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> [e-mail]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[CANSLIM]=20
stock chart<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>I am with you =
John. I=20
  subscribe to IBD and DGO because they take all of the labor out of the =

  screening process for both fundamental and Technical evaluations. When =
I find=20
  a small group of stocks that I like I can go elsewhere for more =
information if=20
  I wish. There may be cheaper ways to approach the process but I don't =
know of=20
  another system that identifies CANSLIM candidates better or faster.=20
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From: Fred Winkle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 17 Nov 2002 13:05:30 -0600

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MessageJC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing =
their own concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see =
a movement to use other sites (including personal) for information. =
Before I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe.

I find IBD invaluable.=20

Fred
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John Calkins=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


  Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of =
CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to =
his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality =
stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big =
Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This follows everything =
that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then how do you find =
those same stocks?

  JC
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Tom Worley=20
    To: [e-mail]=20
    Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


    why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Duke Miller=20
    To: [e-mail]=20
    Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM
    Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart


    Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about =
ten days ago. =20

    Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

    Duke
      -----Original Message-----
      From: [e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
      Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM
      To: [e-mail]
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


      Hi Bikear,

      You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there =
are plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will =
allow you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, =
etc. For example:

      =
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DSBUX
      http://www.bigcharts.com
      http://www.clearstation.com

      If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the =
IBD charts show, see
      http://www.stockcharts.com

      If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over =
time, see
      http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php

      If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid =
products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

      Katherine

        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: [e-mail]=20
        To: [e-mail]=20
        Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


        <PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart =
place to look?

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<DIV>JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing =
their own=20
concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a movement =
to use=20
other sites (including personal) for information. Before I tear the roof =
off,=20
Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I find IBD invaluable. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Fred</DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">John=20
  Calkins</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=[e-mail]=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 17, 2002 =
12:08=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] stock =
chart</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now let me get this straight. This =
group is=20
  studying WON's concept of CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you =
need to=20
  take a subscription to his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  =
How do you=20
  find the quality stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use =
IBD's=20
  Where The Big Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This =
follows=20
  everything that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then =
how do=20
  you find those same stocks?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>JC</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">Tom=20
    Worley</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=[e-mail]=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, =
2002 6:40=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] stock=20
chart</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for =
many=20
    years</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
    <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
    title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">Duke=20
    Miller</A> </DIV>
    <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[e-mail]=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM</DIV>
    <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart</DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Let me =
throw my two=20
    cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten days =
ago. =20
    </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT=20
    face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Just flat =
out decided=20
    not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. =
Worely!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT=20
    face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
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      face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]=
sion.com</A>=20
      [mailto:[e-mail]] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Katherine=20
      Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
      Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>Hi Bikear,</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but =
there are=20
      plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will =
allow you=20
      to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, =
etc. For=20
      example:</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3D=
SBUX">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DS=
BUX</A></DIV>
      <DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.bigcharts.com">http://www.bigcharts.com</A></DIV>
      <DIV><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.clearstation.com">http://www.clearstation.com</A></DIV=
>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX =
as the=20
      IBD charts show, see</DIV>
      <DIV><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.stockcharts.com">http://www.stockcharts.com</A></DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted =
over time,=20
      see</DIV>
      <DIV><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php">http://www.cwhcharts=
com/charts/kmchart.php</A></DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to =
paid=20
      products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=[e-mail]=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November =
16, 2002=20
        2:30 PM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
stock=20
        chart</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV><PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what =
is a=20
        good chart place to look?<BR><BR>-<BR>-To subscribe/unsubscribe, =
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From: "Duke Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 17 Nov 2002 19:53:07 -0500

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Seems we've started something with my throwing my two cents in.

Here are a few more "cents".... four to be exact.

1)  IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there
product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their product).
That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to
them the past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They talk about how great
companies put the customer first, then....never mind.)

2)  About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20
hindsight ad nauseum with continual conflicting information to make
their points.

3)  They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals,
beat the S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the past
two years is a different story.

4)  Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a
Republican puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good at?

I like Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a
dead cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through
the archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is
available elsewhere.

Duke



-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Fred Winkle
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:06 PM


JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing their
own concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a
movement to use other sites (including personal) for information. Before
I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe.

I find IBD invaluable.

Fred

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM

Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of
CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to
his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality
stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big
Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This follows everything
that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then how do you find
those same stocks?

JC

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM

why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM

Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten
days ago.

Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

Duke

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM


Hi Bikear,

You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are
plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow
you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc.
For example:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX
http://www.bigcharts.com
http://www.clearstation.com

If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD
charts show, see
http://www.stockcharts.com

If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see
http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php
<http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php>

If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid
products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

Katherine


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM

<PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to
look?

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D356253500-18112002><FONT =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D356253500-18112002><FONT =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D356253500-18112002><FONT =
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    <A title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">John=20
    Calkins</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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    =
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=20
    </DIV>
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2002 12:08=20
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now let me get this straight. This =
group is=20
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you need=20
    to take a subscription to his paper to follow his teaching, =
BUT!  How=20
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into?  I=20
    use IBD's Where The Big Money's Flowing to get started with my =
lists. =20
    This follows everything that WON teaches.  If you do not get =
the paper,=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">Tom=20
      Worley</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=[e-mail]=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November =
16, 2002=20
      6:40 PM</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
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      <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM</DIV>
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      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Let me =
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      <DIV><SPAN class=3D123163802-17112002><FONT face=3DArial>Just flat =
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Worely!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]=
sion.com</A>=20
        [mailto:[e-mail]] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Katherine=20
        Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
        <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
        Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>Hi Bikear,</DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV>You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but =
there=20
        are plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which =
will=20
        allow you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving =
averages,=20
        etc. For example:</DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV><A=20
        =
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3D=
SBUX">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DS=
BUX</A></DIV>
        <DIV><A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.bigcharts.com">http://www.bigcharts.com</A></DIV>
        <DIV><A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.clearstation.com">http://www.clearstation.com</A></DIV=
>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV>If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX =
as the=20
        IBD charts show, see</DIV>
        <DIV><A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.stockcharts.com">http://www.stockcharts.com</A></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV>If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted =
over=20
        time, see</DIV>
        <DIV><A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php">http://www.cwhcharts=
com/charts/kmchart.php</A></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV>If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to =
paid=20
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        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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From: "Patrick Wahl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 17 Nov 2002 17:59:14 -0700

You said a mouthful, that should give the moles on the list something to
think about.

On 17 Nov 2002 at 19:53, Duke Miller wrote:

> Seems we've started something with my throwing my two cents in.
>
> Here are a few more "cents".... four to be exact.
>
> 1)  IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there
> product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their product).
> That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to
> them the past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They talk about how great
> companies put the customer first, then....never mind.)
>
> 2)  About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20
> hindsight ad nauseum with continual conflicting information to make
> their points.
>
> 3)  They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals,
> beat the S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the past
> two years is a different story.
>
> 4)  Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a
> Republican puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good at?
>
> I like Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a
> dead cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through
> the archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is
> available elsewhere.
>
> Duke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Fred Winkle
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:06 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
>
> JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing their
> own concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a
> movement to use other sites (including personal) for information. Before
> I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe.
>
> I find IBD invaluable.
>
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John  <mailto:[e-mail]> Calkins
> To: [e-mail]
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of
> CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to
> his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality
> stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big
> Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This follows everything
> that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then how do you find
> those same stocks?
>
> JC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom  <mailto:[e-mail]> Worley
> To: [e-mail]
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Duke  <mailto:[e-mail]> Miller
> To: [e-mail]
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten
> days ago.
>
> Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!
>
> Duke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
>
> Hi Bikear,
>
> You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are
> plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow
> you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc.
> For example:
>
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX
> http://www.bigcharts.com
> http://www.clearstation.com
>
> If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD
> charts show, see
> http://www.stockcharts.com
>
> If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see
> http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php
> <http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php>
>
> If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid
> products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.
>
> Katherine
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> <PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to
> look?
>
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Subject: [CANSLIM] CENSOR
Date: 17 Nov 2002 16:37:04 -0600

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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CENSOR
Date: 17 Nov 2002 20:40:30 -0500

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Fred, the only "moderator" is us, unless you use certain buzz words that =
are recognizable to the mail server, such as "s-u-b-s-c-r-i ...".

Those posts will normally get thru eventually, just have to be hand =
checked by the list owner, then pushed thru.

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would be the use of profanity, spamming or commercial ads, or personal =
attacks. This is prohibited, and mentioned in the introductory email all =
new members receive.

Assuming none of this applies, and you are still having trouble posting, =
I would suggest contacting the list owner directly for further advice.

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Guess the moderator controls what is said because many of my posts don't =
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 17 Nov 2002 21:04:22 -0500

unfortunately, Patrick, the moles appear only to report back to Corporate
Counsel when we do something "wrong" (wrong by the lawyers definition, that
is). Or to use ideas from our discussions to write articles for future
publication, attributable of course to the IBD writer, not anyone in this
group.

Sadly, I think WON is completely out of touch with what had been done with
his products, and how his subscribers feel. The process has been going on
for years, and I see no evidence of any change.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:59 PM


You said a mouthful, that should give the moles on the list something to
think about.

On 17 Nov 2002 at 19:53, Duke Miller wrote:

> Seems we've started something with my throwing my two cents in.
>
> Here are a few more "cents".... four to be exact.
>
> 1)  IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there
> product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their product).
> That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to
> them the past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They talk about how great
> companies put the customer first, then....never mind.)
>
> 2)  About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20
> hindsight ad nauseum with continual conflicting information to make
> their points.
>
> 3)  They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals,
> beat the S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the past
> two years is a different story.
>
> 4)  Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a
> Republican puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good at?
>
> I like Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a
> dead cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through
> the archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is
> available elsewhere.
>
> Duke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Fred Winkle
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:06 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
>
> JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing their
> own concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a
> movement to use other sites (including personal) for information. Before
> I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe.
>
> I find IBD invaluable.
>
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John  <mailto:[e-mail]> Calkins
> To: [e-mail]
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of
> CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to
> his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality
> stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big
> Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This follows everything
> that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then how do you find
> those same stocks?
>
> JC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom  <mailto:[e-mail]> Worley
> To: [e-mail]
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Duke  <mailto:[e-mail]> Miller
> To: [e-mail]
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten
> days ago.
>
> Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!
>
> Duke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
>
> Hi Bikear,
>
> You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are
> plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow
> you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc.
> For example:
>
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX
> http://www.bigcharts.com
> http://www.clearstation.com
>
> If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD
> charts show, see
> http://www.stockcharts.com
>
> If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see
> http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php
> <http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php>
>
> If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid
> products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.
>
> Katherine
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> <PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to
> look?
>
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From: "John Calkins" <[e-mail]>
Subject:  [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 17 Nov 2002 20:17:26 -0800

OK!  Some say IBD is invaluable.  Others say it BS.  So show me how I can
find Where The Big Moneys Flow......OOps,  I mean Going with out using the
screen in the paper and without buying some other service.

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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 17 Nov 2002 23:25:54 -0500

John, is chasing a stampeding herd that critical to your screening process?

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OK!  Some say IBD is invaluable.  Others say it BS.  So show me how I can
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screen in the paper and without buying some other service.

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From: "Katherine Malm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 17 Nov 2002 23:02:03 -0600

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Hi John,

I think the use of the IBD vs other free or paid services is more than =
anything a matter of style and preference. There are many here on the =
CANSLIM list who use the IBD exclusively for finding investment =
candidates, others who practice the CANSLIM and or growth style of =
investing but use other tools, and still others who use the IBD and/or =
DGO in combination with other paid services. I still read the IBD's Big =
Picture via the web each day and utilize the numerous educational =
features they provide, but I let the papers pile up for about a month =
before I read them these days, as all of my day to day mining and news =
monitoring is done via other free and paid services. I personally found =
the IBD too time consuming to use as a methodical mining tool and it =
didn't allow me to track the ebb and flow of the market without being =
influenced by their editorial bias. It's amazing how much information is =
available for free on the web these days, so it's entirely possible to =
mine and track good quality growth/CANSLIM candidates even without paid =
tools. Regardless of the choice, I still think the real secret to =
successful investing is using a disciplined approach and a =
methodical/consistent methodology. I think most would be hard pressed to =
argue any one tool was "better" than another, just "better for you."

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  OK!  Some say IBD is invaluable.  Others say it BS.  So show me how I =
can
  find Where The Big Moneys Flow......OOps,  I mean Going with out using =
the
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  JC


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others who=20
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tools, and=20
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services.=20
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these=20
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growth/CANSLIM=20
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think the=20
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a=20
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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] WGO
Date: 17 Nov 2002 21:12:04 -0800

I've been looking at WGO...

Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
worried about the $48 support level that's been set
almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
$48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
committing in order to break through and hold above
these support levels???

Thx!

Robin


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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 18 Nov 2002 07:23:34 EST

<PRE>what frre charting tool is out there?

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From: Karen White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WGO
Date: 18 Nov 2002 04:27:52 -0800

Hi Robin- I too have been looking at some RV stocks and my concern has been
- War = higher gas prices= Stock drops with little warning.....your take on
that? Karen

At 09:12 PM 11/17/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>I've been looking at WGO...
>
>Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
>worried about the $48 support level that's been set
>almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
>$48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
>look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
>committing in order to break through and hold above
>these support levels???
>
>Thx!
>
>Robin
>
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WGO
Date: 18 Nov 2002 08:25:14 -0500

Robin, I would not be concerned about the several spikes to the 49 level. In
fact, the one that finished the right side of the cup and started the handle
is encouraging, as there had been consistent volume behind it.

Yes, of course you still will want to see at least 2X ADV on the b/o, but I
see nothing about the chart that would create any special volume rules.

And Karen, a war with Iraq (I presume that is what you mean) would not
necessarily mean much difference in gas prices at the pump. Crude prices
have been falling for several months, as Iraq moderated its attitude, and
the USA toned down some of its statements in order to build a consensus in
the UN for a new resolution. If Saddam is as smart as I think, he has spent
the past six months or more cleaning up Iraq of any evidence of development
of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Now he lets the inspectors in (they just
landed a few hours ago), they find nothing, Saddam whines and complains and
objects but does nothing to interfere, and in a few months the inspectors
report they had total access, and found nothing. USA looks like a bully, its
intelligence services look like idiots, everyone smiles at the results,
there is no war, and Saddam remains in power and won't have to pay Gaddafi
the $3.5 billion for a safe haven after all.

Even if there is a war, the key is the duration and severity of damage. If
Saddam blows up his own oil fields as threatened, or if the Kurds manage to
take the fields, then crude prices will be disrupted. But there is still a
substantial Iraq war premium priced into crude, and the falling prices have
yet to flow thru to the gas pumps.

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Hi Robin- I too have been looking at some RV stocks and my concern has been
- War = higher gas prices= Stock drops with little warning.....your take on
that? Karen

At 09:12 PM 11/17/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>I've been looking at WGO...
>
>Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
>worried about the $48 support level that's been set
>almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
>$48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
>look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
>committing in order to break through and hold above
>these support levels???
>
>Thx!
>
>Robin
>
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From: "Katherine Malm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WGO
Date: 18 Nov 2002 09:11:00 -0600

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Hi Robin,

I'd agree with you on the need for WGO to breakout strongly above this =
resistance to show its strength. Afterall, that's the idea of a breakout =
entry point, i.e., look for strong accumulation to push through the =
latest price ceiling which may be holding back the stock.

Fundamentally, I think WGO has a lot going for it--they've recently =
announced another stock buyback program and plant expansion program and =
they seem to fit nicely into Duke's "boomer theme." I think my aunt and =
uncle and their friends must be personally responsible for 1/2 the =
company's growth over the last several years....as they buy and trade-up =
constantly.

Technically, I see some yellow flags.... mainly some troubling high =
volume distribution action in the handle. Hard to say how much of that =
is market related and how much company/stock related, but it's notable =
enough to cause some concern when I look at the chart. Either way, as =
with stocks like SYMC and others that have been mentioned on the list =
lately, a strong B/O and strong market action could take care of any =
lingering doubt in the chart! See an annotated chart at: =
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/WGO111702.JPG

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Robin Gridley=20
  To: CANSLIM=20
  Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:12 PM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] WGO


  I've been looking at WGO...

  Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
  worried about the $48 support level that's been set
  almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
  $48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
  look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
  committing in order to break through and hold above
  these support levels???

  Thx!

  Robin


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<DIV>Hi Robin,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'd agree with you on the need for WGO to breakout strongly above =
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entry=20
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<DIV>Fundamentally, I think WGO has a lot going for it--they've =
recently=20
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they=20
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and=20
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growth over=20
the last several years....as they buy and trade-up constantly.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Technically, I see some yellow flags.... mainly some troubling high =
volume=20
distribution action in the handle. Hard to say how much of that is =
market=20
related and how much company/stock related, but it's notable enough to =
cause=20
some concern when I look at the chart. Either way, as with stocks like =
SYMC and=20
others that have been mentioned on the list lately, a strong B/O and =
strong=20
market action could take care of any lingering doubt in the chart! See =
an=20
annotated chart at: <A=20
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a Cw/H,=20
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From: "Bill Theriot" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 18 Nov 2002 09:36:09 -0800

You can find almost anything you are looking for using
a search engine.  You may have to try several different searches.  Or for
all the investing information you might
ever need go to http://www.i-soft.com/
Good investing
Bill
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 18 Nov 2002 09:44:12 -0800

Anoter great site for free screening tools is
http://www.sectorupdates.com/tools.asp

Good trading,
Bill



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From: "Tim Katona" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Intro: Tim Katona plus UOPX?
Date: 18 Nov 2002 09:51:01 -0800

Hi,
I'm new to the group. I live in Portola Valley, CA, been a reader of IBD and
WON for over 10 years, invested while working for SUNW from 1992-2000.
Investing full time since Aug'00.

Any thoughts on UOPX? One of the best fundamentals, breaking out today but
isn't it a 4th stage base....
Thanks,
Tim


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From: Roger Tawa <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 18 Nov 2002 13:29:22 -0500

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Hi all,

As a beginner, it seems to me that the only service worth paying for is
screening.  All the other things you would want to do as an investor, such
as detailed charts, real-time/delayed quotes, news, DDDD, status of M,
education, etc. are available for free somewhere on the internet.

As for screening services, it seems that what you would want to look for is
something that has pre-built screens, but as/most importantly a service that
you can customize to build screens the way you want.  Some of the screening
services that I have found are :

Tc2000.com
Vectorvest.com
Cwhcharts.com
Cupwatch.com
IBD (investors.com)
AAII.com investor pro

I'm sure most people on this list can come up with a much bigger collection
of screening services.

The one nice thing about IBD is that given a stock, you can easily find its
sector, and then find other companies in this sector to see how they are
doing.  You can also get a sector ranking.

Is this a very naive/beginner point of view?

===================================================================
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[One thing about paradigms:  shift happens.]
[You ain't nothing yet.]

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Duke Miller
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:53 PM

Seems we've started something with my throwing my two cents in.

Here are a few more "cents".... four to be exact.

1)  IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there
product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their product).
That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to them
the past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They talk about how great
companies put the customer first, then....never mind.)

2)  About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20 hindsight
ad nauseum with continual conflicting information to make their points.

3)  They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals, beat
the S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the past two years
is a different story.

4)  Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a Republican
puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good at?

I like Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a dead
cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through the
archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is available
elsewhere.

Duke


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[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Fred Winkle
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:06 PM
JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing their own
concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a movement to
use other sites (including personal) for information. Before I tear the roof
off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe.

I find IBD invaluable.

Fred
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Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM

Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of
CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to his
paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality stocks that
the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big Money's Flowing to
get started with my lists.  This follows everything that WON teaches.  If
you do not get the paper, then how do you find those same stocks?

JC
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM

why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM

Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten days
ago.

Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

Duke
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[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM
Hi Bikear,

You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are plenty
of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow you to
include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. For
example:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX
http://www.bigcharts.com
http://www.clearstation.com

If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD
charts show, see
http://www.stockcharts.com

If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see
http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php
<http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php>

If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid products
such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

Katherine

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services.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The one
nice thing about IBD is that given a stock, you can easily find its sector, and
then find other companies in this sector to see how they are doing.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>You can also get a sector ranking.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is this a
very naïve/beginner point of view?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><!--[if supportFields]><span class=EmailStyle18><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail
Signature" <span style='mso-element:field-separator'></span></span></font></span><![endif]--><font
color=navy face="Lucida Console"><span style='font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy;layout-grid-mode:line'>===================================================================</span></font><font
color=navy face="Lucida Console"><span style='font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext;layout-grid-mode:line'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Lucida Console"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:navy;layout-grid-mode:
line'>Roger Tawa<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">
</span><a href="mailto:[e-mail]"><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>[e-mail]</span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman";layout-grid-mode:
both'> </span></font></a></span></font><font color=navy face="Lucida Console"><span
style='font-family:"Lucida Console";color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
layout-grid-mode:line'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Lucida Console"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:navy;layout-grid-mode:
line'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font color=navy
face="Lucida Console"><span style='font-family:"Lucida Console";color:navy;
mso-color-alt:windowtext;layout-grid-mode:line'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=navy face="Lucida Console"><span
style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:navy;layout-grid-mode:
line'>[One thing about paradigms:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>shift happens.]</span></font><font size=1 color=navy
face="Lucida Console"><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext;layout-grid-mode:line'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-pagination:none'><font size=1 color=black
face="Lucida Console"><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:black;layout-grid-mode:line'>[You ain’t nothing yet.]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><!--[if supportFields]><span class=EmailStyle18><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-element:field-end'></span></span></font></span><![endif]--><span
class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
[e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Duke Miller<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 17, 2002
7:53 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> [e-mail]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Seems
we've started something with my throwing my two cents in.  </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Here
are a few more "cents".... four to be exact.</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>1)
IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there product(s)
herein to further our education (and promote their product).   That
kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to them the
past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They talk about how great companies
put the customer first, then....never mind.)</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>2)
About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20 hindsight ad
nauseum with continual conflicting information to make their points.</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>3)
They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals, beat the
S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the past two
years is a different story.</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>4)
Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a Republican
puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good at?</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I like
Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a dead
cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through the
archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is
available elsewhere.</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:
navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Duke</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Fred Winkle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 17, 2002
2:06 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> [e-mail]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make
money and are advancing their own concepts. I've read the archives of the past
6 months and see a movement to use other sites (including personal) for
information. Before I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that
shoe.</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I find IBD invaluable. </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Fred</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----
Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>

<p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>

<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:[e-mail]" title="[e-mail]">John Calkins</a> </span></font></div>

<font color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:[e-mail]" title="[e-mail]">[e-mail]</a>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Sunday, November 17, 2002
12:08 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Re:
[CANSLIM] stock chart</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Now let
me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of CANSLIM.
Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to his paper to follow
his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality stocks that the big money
is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big Money's Flowing to get started
with my lists.  This follows everything that WON teaches.  If you do
not get the paper, then how do you find those same stocks?</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>JC</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----
Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>

<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:[e-mail]" title="[e-mail]">Tom Worley</a>
</span></font></div>

<font color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:[e-mail]" title="[e-mail]">[e-mail]</a>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Saturday, November 16,
2002 6:40 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Re:
[CANSLIM] stock chart</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>why ask
me, I have not been a subscriber for many years</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----
Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div style='font-color:black'>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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background:#E4E4E4'>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:[e-mail]" title="[e-mail]">Duke
Miller</a> </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;background:white;mso-shading:transparent;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:[e-mail]" title="[e-mail]">[e-mail]</a>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;background:white;mso-shading:transparent;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>
Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;background:white;mso-shading:transparent;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart</span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;background:white;mso-shading:transparent;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font
size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:navy'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;background:white;mso-shading:transparent;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired
about ten days ago.  </span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;background:white;mso-shading:transparent;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;background:white;mso-shading:transparent;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask
Mr. Worely!</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;background:white;mso-shading:transparent;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:79.5pt;background:white;mso-shading:transparent;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Duke</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</a>
[mailto:[e-mail]] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Katherine Malm<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November 16, 2002
5:39 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Hi Bikear,</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>You didn't say
what you were looking for when charting, but there are plenty of free resources
on the web for basic charts which will allow you to include a variety of
technical indicators, moving averages, etc. For example:</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><a
href="http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><a
href="http://www.bigcharts.com">http://www.bigcharts.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><a
href="http://www.clearstation.com">http://www.clearstation.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If you want
technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD charts show, see</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><a
href="http://www.stockcharts.com">http://www.stockcharts.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If you want
the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><a
href="http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php">http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If you want
something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid products such as
HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Katherine</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:119.25pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----
Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>

<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
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2002 2:30 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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Subject: [CANSLIM] If It's Raining in Brazil, Buy Bunge Limited
Date: 18 Nov 2002 12:42:30 -0600

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Interesting free stuff....

If It's Raining in Brazil, Buy Bunge Limited (Peter Navarro and David =
Aloyan)=20


This week's link:

Cogito Ergo Hedgem (Peter Navarro and David Aloyan)=20

[I Think, Therefore I Hedge]=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><A=20
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From: Kent Norman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX volume
Date: 18 Nov 2002 10:57:42 -0800 (PST)

UOPX is + 7% at 726,000 shares today, aavg vol is 200,000.

Regards
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 18 Nov 2002 14:32:47 EST

Katherine:

     I agree.  More than any technical tool or whiz-bang chart analysis,
discipline and an educated-consistent methodology is necessary to garner
success in the market.

     However, I don't understand how IBD's editorial slant can influence
someone in following the  "ebb and flow" of the market.  What has one to do
with the other?

     Anyway, it's nice to see your E-mails again.  And also to read them.

jans


In a message dated 11/18/2002 12:03:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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<< [IBD] didn't allow me to track the ebb and flow of the market without
being influenced by their editorial bias.....  Regardless of the choice, I
still think the real secret to successful investing is using a disciplined
approach and a methodical/consistent methodology. I think most would be hard
pressed to argue any one tool was "better" than another, just "better for
you." >>

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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX volume
Date: 18 Nov 2002 13:47:49 -0600

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Hi Kent,

I've seen a lot of similar action in other e-commerce stocks =
recently....EBAY, AMZN, ROOM.

But parent commercial school APOL and others such as COCO, ESI, and STRA =
seem to have hit the pause button. EDMC, DV and CECO are not so =
healthy....a strong group nonetheless, having fallen back only slightly =
in the last 13 wks, and showing outstanding relative strength to the SPX =
over the last 6 mos to a year.

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX volume


  UOPX is + 7% at 726,000 shares today, aavg vol is 200,000.

  Regards
  Kent Norman


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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I've seen a lot of similar action in other e-commerce stocks=20
recently....EBAY, AMZN, ROOM.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But parent commercial school APOL and others such as COCO, ESI, and =
STRA=20
seem to have hit the pause button. EDMC, DV and CECO are not so=20
healthy....a strong group nonetheless, having fallen back only slightly =
in the=20
last 13 wks, and showing outstanding relative strength to the SPX over =
the last=20
6 mos to a year.</DIV>
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WGO
Date: 18 Nov 2002 14:52:48 EST

Robin:

     I've just pulled WGO up on DGO, and besides Kathrine's high distribution
days (which only comparitively I see as a danger sign, ie. price rises is on
smaller volume than falls, which to me indicates that demand is beginning to
dry up), I see that there are 51% funds ownership of the stock.  So perhaps
that's why buying is beginning to dry up (51% is pretty high fund ownership).


     Moreover, even if it broke out, I'd be wary:  There is enough fund
ownership that the managers of the fund might be anxious to take profits on
what appears to be a break-out.  And there is so much fund ownership that if
funds start bailing out one after another, then...:  Look out below.

jans

In a message dated 11/18/2002 10:10:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Hi Robin,

 I'd agree with you on the need for WGO to breakout strongly above this
resistance to show its strength. Afterall, that's the idea of a breakout
entry point, i.e., look for strong accumulation to push through the latest
price ceiling which may be holding back the stock.

 Fundamentally, I think WGO has a lot going for it--they've recently
announced another stock buyback program and plant expansion program and they
seem to fit nicely into Duke's "boomer theme." I think my aunt and uncle and
their friends must be personally responsible for 1/2 the company's growth
over the last several years....as they buy and trade-up constantly.

 Technically, I see some yellow flags.... mainly some troubling high volume
distribution action in the handle. Hard to say how much of that is market
related and how much company/stock related, but it's notable enough to cause
some concern when I look at the chart. Either way, as with stocks like SYMC
and others that have been mentioned on the list lately, a strong B/O and
strong market action could take care of any lingering doubt in the chart! See
an annotated chart at: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/WGO111702.JPG

 Katherine
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Robin Gridley
   To: CANSLIM
   Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:12 PM
   Subject: [CANSLIM] WGO


   I've been looking at WGO...

   Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
   worried about the $48 support level that's been set
   almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
   $48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
   look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
   committing in order to break through and hold above
   these support levels???

   Thx!

   Robin
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 18 Nov 2002 14:40:08 -0600

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Hi jans,

In reference to "consistent methodology", I remember from reading John =
C's introductory post that he's a heavy user of the screens and =
mini-charts in the IBD. No question that John's methodology is rigorous, =
as he so clearly laid out in his post earlier this year. (Apologies =
John, I remembered well your original post and methodology, but didn't =
more recently make the connection to your name)

With respect to editorial slant--while the stocks the IBD chooses to =
highlight in the mini-charts, etc. are based on the high relative =
strength approach that forms the core of the CANSLIM style, the physical =
paper itself is limited in space, so the charts shown may not represent =
the entire universe of "good quality stocks." Also, given that there =
might be more than could fit in the allotted space, the editors will =
pick and choose which to show. They also choose which stocks to comment =
on, so there is no guarantee that the one or two they mention are =
necessarily the better candidates, though they may very well be the most =
interesting.  I also remember times in the past where the stocks showing =
up were indeed high RS stocks, but because the market was doing so =
poorly, they weren't necessarily CANSLIM quality from a growth and/or =
fundamental perspective.

There's a theory that investors tend to be biased when a stock tends to =
be mentioned quite often in the press. Simply mentioning a stock doesn't =
necessarily make it a good (or the best) candidate, but the frequency of =
mention tends to influence how one *perceives* the qualities of the =
company and/or the stock. Take, for instance, the Screen of the Day on =
the website. The editors will choose which screens to run from one day =
to the next. While a good stock will naturally make it to several lists, =
it doesn't necessarily hold that the number of times it shows up makes =
it a "better" stock or that all "good" stocks are represented in the =
screens. There's really no cause and effect there, just luck of the draw =
on editorial choice.

All in all, I think it's far more important to utilize a consistent =
methodology that doesn't introduce this type of editorial bias. In other =
words, the core of CANSLIM is high relative strength, technically sound, =
fundamentally sound, growth stocks. Take away all the fluff , the =
proprietary rankings and the frequency of mention and you're left with =
stocks that fit this bill and stocks that don't. With a sound methodical =
approach, it's possible to zoom in on the stocks that qualify, those =
that are moving up and those that are moving down at all times, without =
bias. That's the ebb and flow that I was referring to in my earlier =
post. In other words, I rely on WON and IBD to help me understand and =
interpret the CANSLIM style, but I don't want them to them lead me by =
the nose if I am to understand and interpret the market. That's the =
beauty of tools such as HGSI, Vectorvest, TC2000 and others...they rely =
on technical indicators to lead you to strength, not editors.

Katherine


----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY


  Katherine:

       I agree.  More than any technical tool or whiz-bang chart =
analysis,=20
  discipline and an educated-consistent methodology is necessary to =
garner=20
  success in the market.

       However, I don't understand how IBD's editorial slant can =
influence=20
  someone in following the  "ebb and flow" of the market.  What has one =
to do=20
  with the other?=20

       Anyway, it's nice to see your E-mails again.  And also to read =
them.

  jans


  In a message dated 11/18/2002 12:03:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20
  [e-mail] writes:

  << [IBD] didn't allow me to track the ebb and flow of the market =
without=20
  being influenced by their editorial bias.....  Regardless of the =
choice, I=20
  still think the real secret to successful investing is using a =
disciplined=20
  approach and a methodical/consistent methodology. I think most would =
be hard=20
  pressed to argue any one tool was "better" than another, just "better =
for=20
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<DIV>Hi jans,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In reference to "consistent methodology", I remember from reading =
John C's=20
introductory post that he's a heavy user of the screens and mini-charts =
in the=20
IBD. No question that John's methodology is rigorous, as he so clearly =
laid out=20
in his post earlier this year. (Apologies John, I remembered well your =
original=20
post and methodology, but didn't more recently make the connection to =
your=20
name)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>With respect to editorial slant--while the stocks the IBD chooses =
to=20
highlight in the mini-charts, etc. are based on the high relative =
strength=20
approach that forms the core of the CANSLIM style, the physical paper =
itself is=20
limited in space, so the charts shown may not represent the entire =
universe of=20
"good quality stocks." Also, given that there might be more than could =
fit in=20
the allotted space, the editors will pick and choose which to show. They =
also=20
choose which stocks to comment on, so there is no guarantee that the one =
or two=20
they mention are necessarily the better candidates, though they may very =
well be=20
the most interesting.  I also remember times in the past where the =
stocks=20
showing up were indeed high RS stocks, but because the market was doing =
so=20
poorly, they weren't necessarily CANSLIM quality from a growth and/or=20
fundamental perspective.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There's a theory that investors tend to be biased when a stock =
tends to be=20
mentioned quite often in the press. Simply mentioning a stock doesn't=20
necessarily make it a good (or the best) candidate, but the frequency of =
mention=20
tends to influence how one *perceives* the qualities of the company =
and/or the=20
stock. Take, for instance, the Screen of the Day on the website. The =
editors=20
will choose which screens to run from one day to the next. While a good =
stock=20
will naturally make it to several lists, it doesn't necessarily hold =
that the=20
number of times it shows up makes it a "better" stock or that all "good" =
stocks=20
are represented in the screens. There's really no cause and effect =
there, just=20
luck of the draw on editorial choice.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>All in all, I think it's far more important to utilize a consistent =

methodology that doesn't introduce this type of editorial bias. In other =
words,=20
the core of CANSLIM is high relative strength, technically sound, =
fundamentally=20
sound, growth stocks. Take away all the fluff , the proprietary rankings =
and the=20
frequency of mention and you're left with stocks that fit this bill and =
stocks=20
that don't. With a sound methodical approach, it's possible to zoom in =
on the=20
stocks that qualify, those that are moving up and those that are moving =
down at=20
all times, without bias. That's the ebb and flow that I was referring to =
in my=20
earlier post. In other words, I rely on WON and IBD to help me =

understand and interpret the CANSLIM style, but I don't want them=20
to them lead me by the nose if I am to understand and interpret the =
market.=20
That's the beauty of tools such as HGSI, Vectorvest, TC2000 and =
others...they=20
rely on technical indicators to lead you to strength, not editors.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Katherine:<BR><BR>     I =
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Date: 18 Nov 2002 18:13:32 EST

<PRE>I have not traded or done anything in over a year I have got a lot of paper
loss and I'm just sitting on them has anyone made any money  lately.....janis

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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WGO
Date: 18 Nov 2002 15:37:35 -0800

Karen -

I agree with Tom in that I'm not too worried about a big
bump in gas prices. Two main reasons...
1) Oil expenditures are only 3.5% of GDP as compared to 8%
during the '73 shock.
2) Even though oil imports are up a third from '73, we're now
spreading the wealth much wider (Mexico, Russia, Venezuala, etc.)
We're only getting 10% of total domestic consumption from the
area slated to be affected by a Gulf war.

Even if there's a brief spike (which I doubt), even if exacerbated
by successful terrorist action against pipelines or other logistics,
I can't see it lasting long enough to hold any real implications
for prices. Especially with the proclivity of the feds to bleed
the reserve at the slightest sign of squawking from the gas
guzzlers...

[start soapbox]

Now... that having been said, the economist in me would at times
like to see gas prices better reflect the real costs of consumption,
as I'm a firm believer in the importance of "price" to reguluate the
demand side of "price equilibrium."

Living in a state that's running a $10B deficit and can't seem
to find enough money to fix potholes even with one of the highest
state tax rates and and a top 10 global economy, the complete lack
of willingness to carry total costs of consumption through to
the consumer (either by letting prices at least rise with inflation
or use of a consumption tax with funds strictly earmarked to offset
related costs) gives me a headache. But I guess there are just
too many d@mn trial attorneys driving around in Escalades for
that to ever happen.....  ;-)

[end soapbox!!!!]

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Karen White
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:28 AM


Hi Robin- I too have been looking at some RV stocks and my concern has been
- War = higher gas prices= Stock drops with little warning.....your take on
that? Karen

At 09:12 PM 11/17/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>I've been looking at WGO...
>
>Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
>worried about the $48 support level that's been set
>almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
>$48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
>look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
>committing in order to break through and hold above
>these support levels???
>
>Thx!
>
>Robin
>
>
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From: Fred Winkle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX volume
Date: 18 Nov 2002 13:24:28 -0600

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Kent, who needs to count? I got an alert from cwhcharts at 12.18 that =
UOPX broke out. I also got an alert at 12.20 on SNDK. I was able to buy =
and sell them both because of these alerts. Made more than enough to pay =
for their yearly subscription. The best part is that I still have about =
4 days left on my free trial.

Check them out at http://www.cwhcharts.com

Thank you Mike and Kathryn,
Fred

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX volume


  UOPX is + 7% at 726,000 shares today, aavg vol is 200,000.

  Regards
  Kent Norman


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<DIV>Kent, who needs to count? I got an alert from cwhcharts at 12.18 =
that UOPX=20
broke out. I also got an alert at 12.20 on SNDK. I was able to buy and =
sell them=20
both because of these alerts. Made more than enough to pay for their =
yearly=20
subscription. The best part is that I still have about 4 days left on my =
free=20
trial.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Check them out at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com">http://www.cwhcharts.com</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thank you Mike and Kathryn,</DIV>
<DIV>Fred</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
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  <A title=[e-mail] =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">Kent=20
  Norman</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX =
volume</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>UOPX is + 7% at 726,000 shares today, aavg vol is=20
  200,000.<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Kent =
Norman<BR><BR><BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>There are 3 kinds=20
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX volume
Date: 18 Nov 2002 13:42:33 -0600

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Let's see if I can make it 3 for 3. I just got an alert from them on MVL =
and bought it at $9.20 (it's at $9.24). I'll look up MVL after I sell it =
this afternoon. First time to ever buy a stock without knowing anything =
about them (bad).

Fred
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Fred Winkle=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX volume


  Kent, who needs to count? I got an alert from cwhcharts at 12.18 that =
UOPX broke out. I also got an alert at 12.20 on SNDK. I was able to buy =
and sell them both because of these alerts. Made more than enough to pay =
for their yearly subscription. The best part is that I still have about =
4 days left on my free trial.

  Check them out at http://www.cwhcharts.com

  Thank you Mike and Kathryn,
  Fred

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Kent Norman=20
    To: [e-mail]=20
    Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:57 PM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX volume


    UOPX is + 7% at 726,000 shares today, aavg vol is 200,000.

    Regards
    Kent Norman


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<DIV>Let's see if I can make it 3 for 3. I just got an alert from them =
on MVL=20
and bought it at $9.20 (it's at $9.24). I'll look up MVL after I sell it =
this=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 18, 2002 =
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX =
volume</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Kent, who needs to count? I got an alert from cwhcharts at 12.18 =
that=20
  UOPX broke out. I also got an alert at 12.20 on SNDK. I was able to =
buy and=20
  sell them both because of these alerts. Made more than enough to pay =
for their=20
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left on=20
  my free trial.</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>Check them out at <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.cwhcharts.com">http://www.cwhcharts.com</A></DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>Thank you Mike and Kathryn,</DIV>
  <DIV>Fred</DIV>
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Subject: Fw: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 18 Nov 2002 15:13:53 -0600

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Please, enough bashing of IBD. I happen to disagree with you but there =
isn't any value in arguing. I am getting very uncomfortable with the =
running down of the editors of IBD. You've made your point why not let =
it alone? Thank you for your patience and understanding.


----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:40 PM


Hi jans,

In reference to "consistent methodology", I remember from reading John =
C's introductory post that he's a heavy user of the screens and =
mini-charts in the IBD. No question that John's methodology is rigorous, =
as he so clearly laid out in his post earlier this year. (Apologies =
John, I remembered well your original post and methodology, but didn't =
more recently make the connection to your name)

With respect to editorial slant--while the stocks the IBD chooses to =
highlight in the mini-charts, etc. are based on the high relative =
strength approach that forms the core of the CANSLIM style, the physical =
paper itself is limited in space, so the charts shown may not represent =
the entire universe of "good quality stocks." Also, given that there =
might be more than could fit in the allotted space, the editors will =
pick and choose which to show. They also choose which stocks to comment =
on, so there is no guarantee that the one or two they mention are =
necessarily the better candidates, though they may very well be the most =
interesting.  I also remember times in the past where the stocks showing =
up were indeed high RS stocks, but because the market was doing so =
poorly, they weren't necessarily CANSLIM quality from a growth and/or =
fundamental perspective.

There's a theory that investors tend to be biased when a stock tends to =
be mentioned quite often in the press. Simply mentioning a stock doesn't =
necessarily make it a good (or the best) candidate, but the frequency of =
mention tends to influence how one *perceives* the qualities of the =
company and/or the stock. Take, for instance, the Screen of the Day on =
the website. The editors will choose which screens to run from one day =
to the next. While a good stock will naturally make it to several lists, =
it doesn't necessarily hold that the number of times it shows up makes =
it a "better" stock or that all "good" stocks are represented in the =
screens. There's really no cause and effect there, just luck of the draw =
on editorial choice.

All in all, I think it's far more important to utilize a consistent =
methodology that doesn't introduce this type of editorial bias. In other =
words, the core of CANSLIM is high relative strength, technically sound, =
fundamentally sound, growth stocks. Take away all the fluff , the =
proprietary rankings and the frequency of mention and you're left with =
stocks that fit this bill and stocks that don't. With a sound methodical =
approach, it's possible to zoom in on the stocks that qualify, those =
that are moving up and those that are moving down at all times, without =
bias. That's the ebb and flow that I was referring to in my earlier =
post. In other words, I rely on WON and IBD to help me understand and =
interpret the CANSLIM style, but I don't want them to them lead me by =
the nose if I am to understand and interpret the market. That's the =
beauty of tools such as HGSI, Vectorvest, TC2000 and others...they rely =
on technical indicators to lead you to strength, not editors.

Katherine


----- Original Message -----=20
  From: [e-mail]=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY


  Katherine:

       I agree.  More than any technical tool or whiz-bang chart =
analysis,=20
  discipline and an educated-consistent methodology is necessary to =
garner=20
  success in the market.

       However, I don't understand how IBD's editorial slant can =
influence=20
  someone in following the  "ebb and flow" of the market.  What has one =
to do=20
  with the other?=20

       Anyway, it's nice to see your E-mails again.  And also to read =
them.

  jans


  In a message dated 11/18/2002 12:03:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20
  [e-mail] writes:

  << [IBD] didn't allow me to track the ebb and flow of the market =
without=20
  being influenced by their editorial bias.....  Regardless of the =
choice, I=20
  still think the real secret to successful investing is using a =
disciplined=20
  approach and a methodical/consistent methodology. I think most would =
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<DIV>Please, enough bashing of IBD. I happen to disagree with you but =
there=20
isn't any value in arguing. I am getting very uncomfortable with=20
the running down of the editors of IBD. You've made your point why =
not let=20
it alone? Thank you for your patience and understanding.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">Katherine Malm</A>=20
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[e-mail]=20
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 18, 2002 2:40 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hi jans,</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>In reference to "consistent methodology", I remember from reading =
John C's=20
introductory post that he's a heavy user of the screens and mini-charts =
in the=20
IBD. No question that John's methodology is rigorous, as he so clearly =
laid out=20
in his post earlier this year. (Apologies John, I remembered well your =
original=20
post and methodology, but didn't more recently make the connection to =
your=20
name)</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>With respect to editorial slant--while the stocks the IBD chooses =
to=20
highlight in the mini-charts, etc. are based on the high relative =
strength=20
approach that forms the core of the CANSLIM style, the physical paper =
itself is=20
limited in space, so the charts shown may not represent the entire =
universe of=20
"good quality stocks." Also, given that there might be more than could =
fit in=20
the allotted space, the editors will pick and choose which to show. They =
also=20
choose which stocks to comment on, so there is no guarantee that the one =
or two=20
they mention are necessarily the better candidates, though they may very =
well be=20
the most interesting.  I also remember times in the past where the =
stocks=20
showing up were indeed high RS stocks, but because the market was doing =
so=20
poorly, they weren't necessarily CANSLIM quality from a growth and/or=20
fundamental perspective.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>There's a theory that investors tend to be biased when a stock =
tends to be=20
mentioned quite often in the press. Simply mentioning a stock doesn't=20
necessarily make it a good (or the best) candidate, but the frequency of =
mention=20
tends to influence how one *perceives* the qualities of the company =
and/or the=20
stock. Take, for instance, the Screen of the Day on the website. The =
editors=20
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stocks=20
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there, just=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>All in all, I think it's far more important to utilize a consistent =

methodology that doesn't introduce this type of editorial bias. In other =
words,=20
the core of CANSLIM is high relative strength, technically sound, =
fundamentally=20
sound, growth stocks. Take away all the fluff , the proprietary rankings =
and the=20
frequency of mention and you're left with stocks that fit this bill and =
stocks=20
that don't. With a sound methodical approach, it's possible to zoom in =
on the=20
stocks that qualify, those that are moving up and those that are moving =
down at=20
all times, without bias. That's the ebb and flow that I was referring to =
in my=20
earlier post. In other words, I rely on WON and IBD to help me =

understand and interpret the CANSLIM style, but I don't want them=20
to them lead me by the nose if I am to understand and interpret the =
market.=20
That's the beauty of tools such as HGSI, Vectorvest, TC2000 and =
others...they=20
rely on technical indicators to lead you to strength, not editors.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=[e-mail]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=[e-mail]=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 18, 2002 =
1:32=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show =
me BIG=20
  MONEY</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT=20
  face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS"></FONT><BR></DIV>Katherine:<BR><BR>    =20
  I agree.  More than any technical tool or whiz-bang chart =
analysis,=20
  <BR>discipline and an educated-consistent methodology is necessary to =
garner=20
  <BR>success in the market.<BR><BR>     However, I =
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following=20
  the  "ebb and flow" of the market.  What has one to do =
<BR>with the=20
  other? <BR><BR>     Anyway, it's nice to see your =
E-mails=20
  again.  And also to read them.<BR><BR>jans<BR><BR><BR>In a =
message dated=20
  11/18/2002 12:03:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, <BR><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=20
  writes:<BR><BR><< [IBD] didn't allow me to track the ebb and =
flow of the=20
  market without <BR>being influenced by their editorial bias.....  =

  Regardless of the choice, I <BR>still think the real secret to =
successful=20
  investing is using a disciplined <BR>approach and a =
methodical/consistent=20
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From: "Katherine Malm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY
Date: 18 Nov 2002 18:09:28 -0600

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Fred,

I believe you have misread my post as there was no "IBD bashing" =
anywhere in sight. I simply stated that I do not personally use the IBD =
for methodically mining for my stocks because I believe that it creates =
bias in my mind as a reader. As stated in an earlier email,  I also =
believe that it takes a great deal of time to use the manual method it =
requires for mining so have chosen another methodology, I still have a =
subscription, and I still read it and find value in it.=20

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Fred Winkle=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:13 PM
  Subject: Fw: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY


  Please, enough bashing of IBD. I happen to disagree with you but there =
isn't any value in arguing. I am getting very uncomfortable with the =
running down of the editors of IBD. You've made your point why not let =
it alone? Thank you for your patience and understanding.


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Katherine Malm=20
  To: [e-mail]=20
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY


  Hi jans,

  In reference to "consistent methodology", I remember from reading John =
C's introductory post that he's a heavy user of the screens and =
mini-charts in the IBD. No question that John's methodology is rigorous, =
as he so clearly laid out in his post earlier this year. (Apologies =
John, I remembered well your original post and methodology, but didn't =
more recently make the connection to your name)

  With respect to editorial slant--while the stocks the IBD chooses to =
highlight in the mini-charts, etc. are based on the high relative =
strength approach that forms the core of the CANSLIM style, the physical =
paper itself is limited in space, so the charts shown may not represent =
the entire universe of "good quality stocks." Also, given that there =
might be more than could fit in the allotted space, the editors will =
pick and choose which to show. They also choose which stocks to comment =
on, so there is no guarantee that the one or two they mention are =
necessarily the better candidates, though they may very well be the most =
interesting.  I also remember times in the past where the stocks showing =
up were indeed high RS stocks, but because the market was doing so =
poorly, they weren't necessarily CANSLIM quality from a growth and/or =
fundamental perspective.

  There's a theory that investors tend to be biased when a stock tends =
to be mentioned quite often in the press. Simply mentioning a stock =
doesn't necessarily make it a good (or the best) candidate, but the =
frequency of mention tends to influence how one *perceives* the =
qualities of the company and/or the stock. Take, for instance, the =
Screen of the Day on the website. The editors will choose which screens =
to run from one day to the next. While a good stock will naturally make =
it to several lists, it doesn't necessarily hold that the number of =
times it shows up makes it a "better" stock or that all "good" stocks =
are represented in the screens. There's really no cause and effect =
there, just luck of the draw on editorial choice.

  All in all, I think it's far more important to utilize a consistent =
methodology that doesn't introduce this type of editorial bias. In other =
words, the core of CANSLIM is high relative strength, technically sound, =
fundamentally sound, growth stocks. Take away all the fluff , the =
proprietary rankings and the frequency of mention and you're left with =
stocks that fit this bill and stocks that don't. With a sound methodical =
approach, it's possible to zoom in on the stocks that qualify, those =
that are moving up and those that are moving down at all times, without =
bias. That's the ebb and flow that I was referring to in my earlier =
post. In other words, I rely on WON and IBD to help me understand and =
interpret the CANSLIM style, but I don't want them to them lead me by =
the nose if I am to understand and interpret the market. That's the =
beauty of tools such as HGSI, Vectorvest, TC2000 and others...they rely =
on technical indicators to lead you to strength, not editors.

  Katherine


  ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: [e-mail]=20
    To: [e-mail]=20
    Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:32 PM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY


    Katherine:

         I agree.  More than any technical tool or whiz-bang chart =
analysis,=20
    discipline and an educated-consistent methodology is necessary to =
garner=20
    success in the market.

         However, I don't understand how IBD's editorial slant can =
influence=20
    someone in following the  "ebb and flow" of the market.  What has =
one to do=20
    with the other?=20

         Anyway, it's nice to see your E-mails again.  And also to read =
them.

    jans


    In a message dated 11/18/2002 12:03:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20
    [e-mail] writes:

    << [IBD] didn't allow me to track the ebb and flow of the market =
without=20
    being influenced by their editorial bias.....  Regardless of the =
choice, I=20
    still think the real secret to successful investing is using a =
disciplined=20
    approach and a methodical/consistent methodology. I think most would =
be hard=20
    pressed to argue any one tool was "better" than another, just =
"better for=20
    you." >>


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<DIV>I believe you have misread my post as there was no "IBD bashing" =
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have=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 18, 2002 =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: [CANSLIM] OK Show =
me BIG=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Please, enough bashing of IBD. I happen to disagree with you but =
there=20
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  the running down of the editors of IBD. You've made your point =
why not=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
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  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[e-mail]=20
  =
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  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 18, 2002 2:40 PM</DIV>
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  <DIV>Hi jans,</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
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strength=20
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itself=20
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universe=20
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could fit=20
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past=20
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growth=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>There's a theory that investors tend to be biased when a stock =
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doesn't=20
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of=20
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company=20
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website.=20
  The editors will choose which screens to run from one day to the next. =
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proprietary=20
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fit=20
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    =
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
=20
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From: "Patrick Wahl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WGO
Date: 18 Nov 2002 17:46:19 -0700

I think you could make a case for lower oil prices if there was a war with
Iraq, since once its over they will be allowed to pump at a higher rate than
they do currently.

On 18 Nov 2002 at 15:37, Robin Gridley wrote:

> Even if there's a brief spike (which I doubt), even if exacerbated
> by successful terrorist action against pipelines or other logistics,
> I can't see it lasting long enough to hold any real implications
> for prices. Especially with the proclivity of the feds to bleed
> the reserve at the slightest sign of squawking from the gas
> guzzlers...



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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]lost confidence...
Date: 18 Nov 2002 21:07:14 -0500

only in my margin acct

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:13 PM


<PRE>I have not traded or done anything in over a year I have got a lot of
paper
loss and I'm just sitting on them has anyone made any money
lately.....janis

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From: "Patrick Wahl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]lost confidence...
Date: 18 Nov 2002 20:10:25 -0700

I have taken a few non-Canslim things which were around breakeven,
have not done much for a few months, not an environment for momentum
stocks right now.  I think you have to trade or stand aside, unless you go
the Warren Buffet route.

On 18 Nov 2002 at 18:13, [e-mail] wrote:

> <PRE>I have not traded or done anything in over a year I have got a lot of paper
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From: "Norman Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] ROOM
Date: 18 Nov 2002 21:41:01 -0600

Anyone else notice this one did what SYMC did.  Specifically, a low vol
breakout from a handle.  SYMC immediately pulled back on below-avg-vol.

Norm


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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ROOM
Date: 18 Nov 2002 19:54:33 -0800

Yes... saw it. Not the most inspiring of break-outs. After
hours has it down slightly (around 1/2%) Didn't make me jump
up and go 'hmmmmmm'...

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Norman Boyd
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:41 PM


Anyone else notice this one did what SYMC did.  Specifically, a low vol
breakout from a handle.  SYMC immediately pulled back on below-avg-vol.

Norm


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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] institutional sponsorship
Date: 18 Nov 2002 21:15:09 -0800

I'm not sure if this is a fair observation or not...

A lot of the stocks that I'm looking into because
I like the charts (and have decent fundamentals...)
are coming up with institutional ownership well over
30%. Is this a common phenomena (the funds buy the
stuff with the good fundamentals just as I'm looking
for...) or is this made more of an issue because
there are not a whole lot of great choices out there
so the institutions are more prevalent in the ones
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From: "Mike Gibbons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Announcement
Date: 18 Nov 2002 19:28:06 -1000

To all subscribers,

Some of you may remember that in late September, DGO FedEx'd letters to
several members of our group who were also paying subscribers to DGO/IBD,
including Katherine Malm. As a result, she was no longer able to use DGO's
charts as the basis for her annotations when participating in CANSLIM list
discussions. At the time, Katherine and I worked together to enhance my
site's charts so that she would have the technical information necessary to
continue annotating charts as she had done previously with DGO's charts.

As a result of that collaboration, Katherine and I began a new dialog and I
am pleased to announce that she has agreed to join cwhCharts.com as a
part-owner.  Our goal for the site is to continue to enhance it with
services and tools for the growth stock investor who follows the CANSLIM
style.  Katherine's understanding of the application of Technical Analysis
to the CANSLIM investment style and her excellent communication skills will
significantly advance our ability to achieve that goal and provide
continually improving services to our subscribers.

This doesn't in any way impact our desire to continue to actively
participate in the CANSLIM discussions (as we both have been doing over the
past year). At the same time, however, I want to be sure that each of you
are aware of our new business arrangement so that there is no perceived
conflict of interest in our postings.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:55 PM


Yes... saw it. Not the most inspiring of break-outs. After
hours has it down slightly (around 1/2%) Didn't make me jump
up and go 'hmmmmmm'...

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Norman Boyd
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:41 PM


Anyone else notice this one did what SYMC did.  Specifically, a low vol
breakout from a handle.  SYMC immediately pulled back on below-avg-vol.

Norm


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From: "David Taggart" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Announcement
Date: 18 Nov 2002 22:34:49 -0700

That's Awesome.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:28 PM

To all subscribers,

Some of you may remember that in late September, DGO FedEx'd letters to
several members of our group who were also paying subscribers to
DGO/IBD,
including Katherine Malm. As a result, she was no longer able to use
DGO's
charts as the basis for her annotations when participating in CANSLIM
list
discussions. At the time, Katherine and I worked together to enhance my
site's charts so that she would have the technical information necessary
to
continue annotating charts as she had done previously with DGO's charts.

As a result of that collaboration, Katherine and I began a new dialog
and I
am pleased to announce that she has agreed to join cwhCharts.com as a
part-owner.  Our goal for the site is to continue to enhance it with
services and tools for the growth stock investor who follows the CANSLIM
style.  Katherine's understanding of the application of Technical
Analysis
to the CANSLIM investment style and her excellent communication skills
will
significantly advance our ability to achieve that goal and provide
continually improving services to our subscribers.

This doesn't in any way impact our desire to continue to actively
participate in the CANSLIM discussions (as we both have been doing over
the
past year). At the same time, however, I want to be sure that each of
you
are aware of our new business arrangement so that there is no perceived
conflict of interest in our postings.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Robin Gridley
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:55 PM


Yes... saw it. Not the most inspiring of break-outs. After
hours has it down slightly (around 1/2%) Didn't make me jump
up and go 'hmmmmmm'...

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Norman Boyd
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:41 PM


Anyone else notice this one did what SYMC did.  Specifically, a low vol
breakout from a handle.  SYMC immediately pulled back on below-avg-vol.

Norm


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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Announcement
Date: 18 Nov 2002 21:42:25 -0800

Well... since I've just spent the last 2 hours sucking
information out of your site ;-) my only response is COOL!
(And I'll back that up with a paying subscription in
the very near future I promise.......)

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:28 PM


To all subscribers,

Some of you may remember that in late September, DGO FedEx'd letters to
several members of our group who were also paying subscribers to DGO/IBD,
including Katherine Malm. As a result, she was no longer able to use DGO's
charts as the basis for her annotations when participating in CANSLIM list
discussions. At the time, Katherine and I worked together to enhance my
site's charts so that she would have the technical information necessary to
continue annotating charts as she had done previously with DGO's charts.

As a result of that collaboration, Katherine and I began a new dialog and I
am pleased to announce that she has agreed to join cwhCharts.com as a
part-owner.  Our goal for the site is to continue to enhance it with
services and tools for the growth stock investor who follows the CANSLIM
style.  Katherine's understanding of the application of Technical Analysis
to the CANSLIM investment style and her excellent communication skills will
significantly advance our ability to achieve that goal and provide
continually improving services to our subscribers.

This doesn't in any way impact our desire to continue to actively
participate in the CANSLIM discussions (as we both have been doing over the
past year). At the same time, however, I want to be sure that each of you
are aware of our new business arrangement so that there is no perceived
conflict of interest in our postings.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Robin Gridley
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:55 PM


Yes... saw it. Not the most inspiring of break-outs. After
hours has it down slightly (around 1/2%) Didn't make me jump
up and go 'hmmmmmm'...

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Norman Boyd
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:41 PM


Anyone else notice this one did what SYMC did.  Specifically, a low vol
breakout from a handle.  SYMC immediately pulled back on below-avg-vol.

Norm


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From: Karen White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Announcement
Date: 18 Nov 2002 21:38:25 -0800

That is great news for you both.  Katherine is a great educator and
generous with her time to help others learn.
Congradulations.......karen

At 07:28 PM 11/18/2002 -1000, you wrote:
>To all subscribers,
>
>Some of you may remember that in late September, DGO FedEx'd letters to
>several members of our group who were also paying subscribers to DGO/IBD,
>including Katherine Malm. As a result, she was no longer able to use DGO's
>charts as the basis for her annotations when participating in CANSLIM list
>discussions. At the time, Katherine and I worked together to enhance my
>site's charts so that she would have the technical information necessary to
>continue annotating charts as she had done previously with DGO's charts.
>
>As a result of that collaboration, Katherine and I began a new dialog and I
>am pleased to announce that she has agreed to join cwhCharts.com as a
>part-owner.  Our goal for the site is to continue to enhance it with
>services and tools for the growth stock investor who follows the CANSLIM
>style.  Katherine's understanding of the application of Technical Analysis
>to the CANSLIM investment style and her excellent communication skills will
>significantly advance our ability to achieve that goal and provide
>continually improving services to our subscribers.
>
>This doesn't in any way impact our desire to continue to actively
>participate in the CANSLIM discussions (as we both have been doing over the
>past year). At the same time, however, I want to be sure that each of you
>are aware of our new business arrangement so that there is no perceived
>conflict of interest in our postings.
>
>Aloha,
>
>Mike Gibbons
>Proactive Technologies, LLC
>http://www.proactech.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [e-mail]
>[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Robin Gridley
>Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:55 PM
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ROOM
>
>
>Yes... saw it. Not the most inspiring of break-outs. After
>hours has it down slightly (around 1/2%) Didn't make me jump
>up and go 'hmmmmmm'...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [e-mail]
>[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Norman Boyd
>Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:41 PM
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: [CANSLIM] ROOM
>
>
>Anyone else notice this one did what SYMC did.  Specifically, a low vol
>breakout from a handle.  SYMC immediately pulled back on below-avg-vol.
>
>Norm
>
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From: "Robin Gridley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CANSLIM] MBT
Date: 18 Nov 2002 21:43:45 -0800

I am liking this a whole lot and think it's making
a nice right side to the cup (LS 40.15, bottom 23.75)
Can anyone see any yellow flags that I may be missing?


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From: "Bill Triffet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Announcement
Date: 18 Nov 2002 21:41:09 -0800

Mike Gibbons wrote:
> To all subscribers,
> As a result of that collaboration, Katherine and I began a new dialog
> and I am pleased to announce that she has agreed to join
> cwhCharts.com as a part-owner.  Our goal for the site is to continue
> to enhance it with services and tools for the growth stock investor
> who follows the CANSLIM style.  Katherine's understanding of the
> application of Technical Analysis to the CANSLIM investment style and
> her excellent communication skills will significantly advance our
> ability to achieve that goal and provide continually improving
> services to our subscribers.

Might I be the first to say congrats! Sounds like the perfect match for
canslim!  : - )

-Bill




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From: "Bill Triffet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Announcement
Date: 18 Nov 2002 21:43:27 -0800

> Might I be the first to say congrats! Sounds like the perfect match
> for canslim!  : - )
>
> -Bill
>

Ok, let me be the third then... (g)

-Bill



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Congratulations Mike and Katherine! Sounds like a winning combination. I wish
you much success on your venture. Watch out IBD!!!

Best Regards,

Robert W. Elmer
Coldwell Banker First Shasta
2837 Bechelli Ln.
Redding, CA 96002
[e-mail]
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Announcement
Date: 19 Nov 2002 00:52:03 -0500

Congrats to both of you for teaming up for a true winning combo. But I think
the real winners are all of us as well. Much success and I look forward to
positive results. How soon do you think you can start releasing a list of
guaranteed sure fire 100% gainers?? ::)))   (if anybody can do it, you two
can)

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:28 AM


To all subscribers,

Some of you may remember that in late September, DGO FedEx'd letters to
several members of our group who were also paying subscribers to DGO/IBD,
including Katherine Malm. As a result, she was no longer able to use DGO's
charts as the basis for her annotations when participating in CANSLIM list
discussions. At the time, Katherine and I worked together to enhance my
site's charts so that she would have the technical information necessary to
continue annotating charts as she had done previously with DGO's charts.

As a result of that collaboration, Katherine and I began a new dialog and I
am pleased to announce that she has agreed to join cwhCharts.com as a
part-owner.  Our goal for the site is to continue to enhance it with
services and tools for the growth stock investor who follows the CANSLIM
style.  Katherine's understanding of the application of Technical Analysis
to the CANSLIM investment style and her excellent communication skills will
significantly advance our ability to achieve that goal and provide
continually improving services to our subscribers.

This doesn't in any way impact our desire to continue to actively
participate in the CANSLIM discussions (as we both have been doing over the
past year). At the same time, however, I want to be sure that each of you
are aware of our new business arrangement so that there is no perceived
conflict of interest in our postings.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Robin Gridley
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:55 PM


Yes... saw it. Not the most inspiring of break-outs. After
hours has it down slightly (around 1/2%) Didn't make me jump
up and go 'hmmmmmm'...

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Norman Boyd
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:41 PM


Anyone else notice this one did what SYMC did.  Specifically, a low vol
breakout from a handle.  SYMC immediately pulled back on below-avg-vol.

Norm


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From: Richard Yoder <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Announcement
Date: 18 Nov 2002 22:50:16 -0800

I'll not be the first nor probably the last to congratulate you two, but I'm
certainly in there somewhere. This bodes well for all of us, I think. I've been
enjoying and learning from both of you. The combination should be awsome!

            Dick

Mike Gibbons wrote:

> To all subscribers,
>
> Some of you may remember that in late September, DGO FedEx'd letters to
> several members of our group who were also paying subscribers to DGO/IBD,
> including Katherine Malm. As a result, she was no longer able to use DGO's
> charts as the basis for her annotations when participating in CANSLIM list
> discussions. At the time, Katherine and I worked together to enhance my
> site's charts so that she would have the technical information necessary to
> continue annotating charts as she had done previously with DGO's charts.
>
> As a result of that collaboration, Katherine and I began a new dialog and I
> am pleased to announce that she has agreed to join cwhCharts.com as a
> part-owner.  Our goal for the site is to continue to enhance it with
> services and tools for the growth stock investor who follows the CANSLIM
> style.  Katherine's understanding of the application of Technical Analysis
> to the CANSLIM investment style and her excellent communication skills will
> significantly advance our ability to achieve that goal and provide
> continually improving services to our subscribers.
>
> This doesn't in any way impact our desire to continue to actively
> participate in the CANSLIM discussions (as we both have been doing over the
> past year). At the same time, however, I want to be sure that each of you
> are aware of our new business arrangement so that there is no perceived
> conflict of interest in our postings.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Mike Gibbons
> Proactive Technologies, LLC
> http://www.proactech.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Robin Gridley
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:55 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ROOM
>
> Yes... saw it. Not the most inspiring of break-outs. After
> hours has it down slightly (around 1/2%) Didn't make me jump
> up and go 'hmmmmmm'...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Norman Boyd
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:41 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [CANSLIM] ROOM
>
> Anyone else notice this one did what SYMC did.  Specifically, a low vol
> breakout from a handle.  SYMC immediately pulled back on below-avg-vol.
>
> Norm
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From: "Tom Worley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Tim Katona plus UOPX?
Date: 19 Nov 2002 06:55:23 -0500

Hi Tim, welcome to the group.

I see yesterday's move as a breakout from the handle of a cup and handle.
Volume had not dried up as much as I would have liked to see in the handle,
nor was volume very good on the right side of the cup. The question now is
whether it can sustain this b/o, prior attempts quickly faded.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:51 PM


Hi,
I'm new to the group. I live in Portola Valley, CA, been a reader of IBD and
WON for over 10 years, invested while working for SUNW from 1992-2000.
Investing full time since Aug'00.

Any thoughts on UOPX? One of the best fundamentals, breaking out today but
isn't it a 4th stage base....
Thanks,
Tim


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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Date: 19 Nov 2002 06:59:42 -0500

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MessageHi Roger,

A screening service is not something you must pay for necessarily. I do =
all my screening at CBS Marketwatch, and it has worked well for me, for =
what I pay (zero). I know others in the group use free online screening =
services as well. I tried DGO's screener when it was in beta testing, =
and found I got better results from Marketwatch (hence why I didn't pay =
the outrageous cost at DGO when beta ended).

----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:29 PM


Hi all,

=20

As a beginner, it seems to me that the only service worth paying for is =
screening.  All the other things you would want to do as an investor, =
such as detailed charts, real-time/delayed quotes, news, DDDD, status of =
M, education, etc. are available for free somewhere on the internet.

=20

As for screening services, it seems that what you would want to look for =
is something that has pre-built screens, but as/most importantly a =
service that you can customize to build screens the way you want.  Some =
of the screening services that I have found are :

=20

Tc2000.com

Vectorvest.com

Cwhcharts.com

Cupwatch.com

IBD (investors.com)

AAII.com investor pro

=20

I'm sure most people on this list can come up with a much bigger =
collection of screening services.

=20

The one nice thing about IBD is that given a stock, you can easily find =
its sector, and then find other companies in this sector to see how they =
are doing.  You can also get a sector ranking.

=20

Is this a very na=EFve/beginner point of view?

=20

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Roger Tawa                                     [e-mail]=20

=20

[One thing about paradigms:  shift happens.]

[You ain't nothing yet.]

=20

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Duke Miller
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:53 PM

=20

Seems we've started something with my throwing my two cents in. =20

=20

Here are a few more "cents".... four to be exact.

=20

1)  IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there =
product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their product).  =
 That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to =
them the past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They talk about how great =
companies put the customer first, then....never mind.)

=20

2)  About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20 =
hindsight ad nauseum with continual conflicting information to make =
their points.

=20

3)  They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals, =
beat the S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the past =
two years is a different story.

=20

4)  Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a =
Republican puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good at?

=20

I like Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a =
dead cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through =
the archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is =
available elsewhere.

=20

Duke

=20

=20

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Fred Winkle
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:06 PM

JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing their =
own concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a =
movement to use other sites (including personal) for information. Before =
I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe.

=20

I find IBD invaluable.=20

=20

Fred

----- Original Message -----=20



=20


Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM


=20

Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of =
CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to =
his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality =
stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big =
Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This follows everything =
that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then how do you find =
those same stocks?

=20

JC

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=20


Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM


=20

why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years

=20

----- Original Message -----=20

=20



Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM


=20

Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten =
days ago. =20

=20

Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

=20

Duke

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM

Hi Bikear,

=20

You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are =
plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow =
you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. =
For example:

=20

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=3DSBUX

http://www.bigcharts.com

http://www.clearstation.com

=20

If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD =
charts show, see

http://www.stockcharts.com

=20

If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see

http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php

=20

If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid =
products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

=20

Katherine

=20

----- Original Message -----=20



=20


Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM


=20

<PRE>I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to =
look?

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Roger,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>A screening service is not something you must =
pay for=20
necessarily. I do all my screening at CBS Marketwatch, and it has worked =
well=20
for me, for what I pay (zero). I know others in the group use free =
online=20
screening services as well. I tried DGO's screener when it was in beta =
testing,=20
and found I got better results from Marketwatch (hence why I didn't pay =
the=20
outrageous cost at DGO when beta ended).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=[e-mail] href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">Roger =
Tawa</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[e-mail]=20
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>=
 </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 18, 2002 1:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Hi=20
all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">As a=20
beginner, it seems to me that the only service worth paying for is=20
screening.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>All the other =
things you=20
would want to do as an investor, such as detailed charts, =
real-time/delayed=20
quotes, news, DDDD, status of M, education, etc. are available for free=20
somewhere on the internet.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><![if =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">As for=20
screening services, it seems that what you would want to look for is =
something=20
that has pre-built screens, but as/most importantly a service that you =
can=20
customize to build screens the way you want.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>Some of the screening services =
that I=20
have found are :<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN =
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face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Tc2000.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN =
class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Cwhcharts.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN =
class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Cupwatch.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN =
class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">IBD=20
(investors.com)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN =
class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">AAII.com=20
investor pro<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><![if =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">I=92m sure=20
most people on this list can come up with a much bigger collection of =
screening=20
services.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">The one=20
nice thing about IBD is that given a stock, you can easily find its =
sector, and=20
then find other companies in this sector to see how they are doing.<SPAN =

style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>You can also get a sector=20
ranking.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Is this=20
a very na=EFve/beginner point of =
view?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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</SPAN><A href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]"><FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN =

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thing about paradigms:<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  =
</SPAN>shift=20
happens.]</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" color=3Dnavy =
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ain=92t nothing yet.]<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
[e-mail]=20
[mailto:[e-mail]]<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">On=20
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Duke Miller<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, November 17, 2002 =
7:53=20
PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
[e-mail]<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [CANSLIM] stock=20
chart</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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New Roman"=20
color=3Dnavy size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><![if =
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color=3Dnavy><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=3Dblack=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Seems=20
we've started something with my throwing my two cents in. =20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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New Roman"=20
color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dnavy><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=3Dblack=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Here are=20
a few more "cents".... four to be exact.</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dnavy><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
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style=3D"COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: =
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