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buffy-digest        Saturday, December 5 1998        Volume 02 : Number 599



In this issue:

       Re: BUFFY: The wish question, and wait a sec...
       Re: BUFFY: Entertainment Weekly
       BUFFY: Buffy on Inside edition I think, or one of those newsmag shows
       Re: BUFFY: Seth and SMG onJLH Specl.
       Re: BUFFY: birds of paradise
       BUFFY: Sounds
       BUFFY: Attn: List Mommies
       Re: BUFFY: VCR Alert: Aly on Howie
       BUFFY: Any New Buffy Websites?  I'll Link Them!
       Re: BUFFY: Hold on a sec. . .
       Re: BUFFY: Hold on a sec. . .
       BUFFY: RE: Buffy: What's wrong with Faith?
       BUFFY: RE:Buffy; Lover's Walk (Cordelia gross-out  warning)
       Re: BUFFY: The Wish Speculations
       BUFFY: Have a slight problem. . .
       BUFFY: Re: Re: Charisma on Inside Edition
       BUFFY: Spoiler
       BUFFY: A question about Amends. .
       BUFFY: Surfing
       BUFFY: Back to the photograph question
       BUFFY: Season 3 So Far
       BUFFY: Buffy mag #2
       Re: BUFFY: Back to the photograph question
       BUFFY: Buffy/Angel relationship in Season 2
       Re: BUFFY: Season 3 So Far

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 20:56:29 -0700
From: David Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: The wish question, and wait a sec...

In a message dated 12/3/1998 6:56:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:
<< 6) Cordelia wasn't close enough to the stage in the Harvest, so she
didn't get picked.>>

If we go back and look at the scene of the Harvest in the Bronze with Luke,
he was just about ready to bite Cordelia when Buffy attracted his attention
by tossing one of the vampire minions from the second floor in front of
Luke. Then Luke and Buffy had a little discussion, followed by Buffy
dropping down to the main floor. At that point Luke pushed Cordelia away
from him, without biting her.

If Buffy had not come to Sunnydale, Cordelia would have been a goner right
from the start. Her presence in the Bronze was not due to any action that
Buffy took earlier, so she would have been there no matter what. And
without Buffy interrupting him, Luke would have bitten and killed Cordelia.




David Simpson
mailto:[e-mail]

Buffy: I'm going to try and vent a little hormonal angst by going out there
and killing a Lagos, whatever that is.
Angel: Lagos?
Buffy: Some demon looking for some all-powerful thingamabob, and got to
stop him before he unleashes unholy havoc, and it's another Tuesday night
in Sunnydale.
- --- Revelations (BtVS)

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 21:00:56 -0700
From: David Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Entertainment Weekly

Earlier this evening, I wrote:
<<...when I went to the site to vote for her (at
http://cgi.pathfinder.com/ew/features/981204/actresspoll/index.html) she
had moved up to #2, just behind Gillian Anderson. And now, this evening,
she has moved into #1! >>

I went back a few minutes later and found that Sarah was back at #2. I
immediately went and gave her another vote, and she moved back to #1. It
must be neck and neck right now between her and Gillian Anderson. For all
of you who would like to see Sarah be #1, be sure and go vote at the above
site.


David Simpson
mailto:[e-mail]

Mr. Trick: You and me girl.  There's hot times ahead.
Buffy: They never just leave.  Always gotta say something.
- --- Band Candy (BtVS)

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:05:29 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: BUFFY: Buffy on Inside edition I think, or one of those newsmag shows

I was at work on my break, and the tv was on, and low and behold!   I see a
segment on supernatural shows..and Buffy was on it along with Sabrina the
Teenage Witch, and Charmed....they showed scenes from Whats My Line 1, and
Becoming 1.....it was pretty cool!   (on another note......Happy Birthday to
ME!)  LOL couldn't resist!

Kara  (Angel crazy nut)

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:14:45 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Seth and SMG onJLH Specl.

In a message dated 12/3/98 4:02:36 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< I never knew Seth was in a TV series with Love called "Birds of Paradise"
 (although I think its what he worked around the time he did Airborne). >>
Geez, it's stuff like this that reminds me how old I am. I used to watch this
and probably still have it on tape somewhere. They costarred with Tim (don't
remember his last name- red-headed guy from Thirtysomething). The basic plot
was an East Coast family that moved to Hawaii after the death of the mother.
Seth had longer hair for most of the show's run and looked a bit different. It
was a good show (sigh of nostalgia). Thanks for letting me remember.

Marusky :)
Keeper of lots

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:26:48 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: BUFFY: birds of paradise

Yeah, I know I already had my trip down memory lane but I just wanted to
mention (I forgot on my last little jaunt) that it's called "Byrds of
Paradise" (the name of the family is "Byrd") Watch, I'm totally wrong and am
going to get ripped apart by those wiser than me :)
Marusky :)

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:30:36 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Katie Masters)
Subject: BUFFY: Sounds

Does anyone know where I can find some good Buffy sounds of any kind in
Real Audio form?



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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:37:23 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: BUFFY: Attn: List Mommies

Does anyone have Jill's personal address? I cant seem to find it since my comp
died on me..


Thanks in advance...


Jason
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 22:05:09 PST
From: "simara hubble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: VCR Alert: Aly on Howie

>
>I guess Nick gave Howie the big thumbs up because Alyson Hannigan is
>scheduled to appear on Monday's "The Howie Mandel Show."  Check your
>local listings.
>
 Okay, hi, um, I'm a newbie at this list thing and I'm apparently
clueless about t.v. too. I hope this question isn't too stupid but, what
channel is the "Howie Mandel Show" on?
- -Thanks.




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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:41:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Sonja Marie <[e-mail]>
Subject: BUFFY: Any New Buffy Websites?  I'll Link Them!

Hi all,

I'm updating the Sonja Marie's Buffy the Vampire Slayer Links Page Tues,
and Wanted to know if anyone had a new page they'd like to be linked in
the update (if they AREN'T ALREADY LINKED.  Email them to me PRIVATELY at
[e-mail] (perferably).

NEW LOCATION (make note of it)
http://www.planetx.com/~sonja/btvsurls/btvsurls.html

Any site I can't view or crashes my browser will not be linked.

Sonja Marie - President - Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC)
Official Anthony Head WebPage - http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/
Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists
Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties
Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail:
"Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted"




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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 04:11:45 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Hold on a sec. . .

In a message dated 98-12-03 20:24:16 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< P.S. How do will and xander get to be vamps?? >>

Prolly in the first ep. when they get captured by Thomas and Darla.

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:34:11 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Hold on a sec. . .

Spoiler space, just in case....







In a message dated 12/5/1998 10:44:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< They would've gone to the Bronze whether the Slayer was in town
 or still in L.A., or wherever she'll be during "The Wish."  Sorry if this
 comes across strong, or rude, or whatever, but I'm an absolute *fiend* for
 details.

 LexyCat
 who has far too many titles >>
 This is true, but the events surrounding Xander's friend(I forget his name),
wouldn't have been the same... and he is the one that brought Cordelia to
where she was on the dance floor, so she could have been way in the back and
wouldn't have gotten chosen.  Of course, with the vampires there and Buffy
not, you could say that everyone would have died eventually, but they could've
stopped after the certain number needed to raise the master, because I
remember him saying, "just one  more"...  so I think it could go either
way.........  :)
Vel

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 14:17:15 EST
From: [e-mail] (Thomas W MacCarrol)
Subject: BUFFY: RE: Buffy: What's wrong with Faith?

    I'm coming to like her more as time goes on (that bit with Scott
and Buffy's replacement at the dance helped a lot), and the more we learn
about her background , what she didn't have or had ripped away, I'm
amazed she's as together as she is. None of this was known at first, we
met her cold.  I don't usually find myself agreeing with Cordy, but
"slut-o-rama" did seem to fit, and that first impression has been rather
lasting.  By the time they get around to killing her off, I'll be really
sad.

                                                 Tom Mac Carrol
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 14:17:15 EST
From: [e-mail] (Thomas W MacCarrol)
Subject: BUFFY: RE:Buffy; Lover's Walk (Cordelia gross-out  warning)

    I'm scrolling through the posts that piled up while I wasn't
feeling well, saw this and triggered  something I was going to say
anyway.
>> Was a little taken back when it was determined (as Willow said to
Buffy)
>> that Cordelia was ok and the metal rod that went through her back
didn't
>> hit any major organs.  Don't know how that was possible??

>I wondered the same thing-- perhaps we have an anatomy person onlist?
<G>
>It looked like, to me, the rod probably grazed some intestines but
missed
>her heart (rod was too low) or a kidney (rod was too high); other than
>that I'm not sure what's over in that area of the bod.

>Might be another symptom of the hellmouth?

    If Willow has the story right, (I'm running off here w/o
re-watching the tap), Cordelia was so lucky she should never buy a
lottery ticket, she's used up her lifetime supply.
    Assuming that the rod's went in her back in a straight line from
where it came out, it was low enough below the ribcage to have missed the
chest cavity.  Heart was not a problem (not physically-I won't go into
the romantic trauma just preceeding the fall <g>) , nor is punctured
lung/ruptured diaphragm.   As far left of the body's  centerline the
abdominal aorta is out of danger, and the rod was high enough not to hit
the Iliac artery feeding the leg.  So much for the good news.
    I stand amazed that a perforation at that location did not
destroy her spleen.  While not a 'vital' organ (i.e. she can live very
well w/o it- although future immune system performance will be diminished
after removal), it is very well supplied with blood, and a puncture like
that  results in a  major internal bleed that can quickly become
life-threatening if the victim is not treated promptly in the field and
gotten into the hands of a surgeon ASAP.  Other targets in that area are
the large bowel and possibly the small bowel as well.  While not as
critical an issue pre-hospitaly, getting bowel contents, digestive juices
and *bacteria* into the belly is not good, requires surgical repair, and
in the case of the large bowel, a new and unique way of going to the
bathroom while things heal.
    Not shown was the rescue operation that would be entailed.  Once
Oz gets to the closest phone and dials 911, the fun gets going in ernest.
 On scene will be at least one advanced life support unit, possibly a
basic ambulance team, and given the circumstances a rescue unit or engine
co from the fire department, plus in many cases a squad car from the
police.
  At least one, if not two medics need to be gotten sown to the bottom of
the hole without ;
        (you knew I couldn't get away w/o an outline)
a) Getting them hurt in a further collapse of the stairway
b) Dropping more debris on Cordy
c) Spending all night figuring it out
Initial treatment to include;
a) At least two large size IV lines
b) oxygen to offset decreased carrying capacity of remaining blood volume
c) leg sections of anti-shock trousers
d) neck collar.
Meanwhile, fire dept rescue people will have to sever the rod w/ hydralic
cutters (making sure she is stable and doesn't drop onto anything *else*
once cut free.
both protruding ends of the rod have to be stabilized so that they don't
wiggle around during transport, tearing Cordy up inside even further.
At this point full spinal splinting to a backboard is possible,
(complicated by the protruding object ), followed by getting her up to
ground level- given the stairs are gone, probably in a basket stretcher
hauled up by half-a-dozen fire-fighters
    All of this while
A) She is quite likely bleeding internally like an open hydrant, and
B) Her probably closed head injury (can't see due to smak on head when
she hit the bottom) gets worse due to brain swelling.
    Then comes the lights-and-siren  trip to the e.r. and the
operating room
Is there any question why she's peeved at Xander for being put through
all this??

    That she was (IIRC) in the hospital's ICU with no visitor's
outside of immediate family seems that regardless, something bad did
happen.  Maybe guilt is making Willow edit the version she's passing on?

    My appologies for running on with the "ick factor", but I've had
to pick up the pieces like this in  EMS for twenty years, and this is
pretty much how the reality goes.  I was scared for her from the moment I
saw the through-and-through wound, and the graveside scene was an all too
chillingly likely aftermath.  From now on Joss, stick to broken arms,
it's easier on our nerves.

                                                 Tom Mac Carrol
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 14:45:09 -0800
From: kenneth fox <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Wish Speculations

Mel Walker wrote:
>
> On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Jessica Tear wrote:
>
> > S
> > P
> > O
> > I
> > L
> > E
> > R
> >
> > S
> > P
> > A
> > C
> > E
> >
> > J
> > U
> > S
> > T
> >
> > I
> > N
> >
> > C
> > A
> > S
> > E
>
> Yes, but she could still be sent to keep an eye on him. I mean, he's been
> stumbling around eating rats for years -- maybe, if he recently surfaced
> (because of Whistler) they would check up on him? I'm just speculating.
>
> -

- --
Jenny is making an appearance in the x-mas ep. Amends, not the Wish. She
comes back as a ghost to haunt Angel.

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 15:36:48 -0800
From: "jim r." <[e-mail]>
Subject: BUFFY: Have a slight problem. . .

Hello all,
  Okay, I have lost all my BtVS bookmarks and I need some specific ones
back, and if anyone has these, please just post them and I will get
them.  Thanks to anyone who can help.   Nitpickers Guide to Buffy,
Flagg's Buffy Clips in Exile, Buffy's Heavenly Angel, LoveAlways Angel,
and Michelle's BtVS Page.  Those are the ones I go to most frequently,
so thanks again.

Jill
Keeper of Buffy's goodbye note
Keeper of Xander's concern for Willow's health


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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 15:46:21 -0500
From: "Natalie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BUFFY: Re: Re: Charisma on Inside Edition

>Reporter:"Charisma Carpenter will be starring in a spin-off of Buffy the
>Vampire Slayer next year, it's called "Angel".

Hey, when did it become definite that Charisma was going to leave the show
for "Angel"?  The last I heard, they were trying to get her to consider, but
she didn't want to leave.

I'm so upset, I love Cordelia on Buffy.  I know that she didn't die in the
last episode (relief!), but this is going to be just as bad for me because I
think that Cordelia and her frankness are really important to the show.

Can someone give me any information about this?



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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 12:57:51 -0800
From: "Cordelia Wylde-LaRue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BUFFY: Spoiler

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Okay, this isn't much but it is a short description of Amends from excites
TV listings:

Visions haunt Angel; Willow tries to seduce Oz; Xander must cope without
Cordelia.

Sorry if all of that has already been said, but I am behind.

Sincerely,
Cordelia
[e-mail]
http://members.tripod.com/~buffysite
Official Keeper of the Quote "Okay, but I can also say I am an elderly dutch
woman.  Get Me?  And who's to say I'm not if I'm in the elderly dutch
cahtroom."
- --Xander ("IRobot, You Jane")











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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 16:03:23 -0800
From: "jim r." <[e-mail]>
Subject: BUFFY: A question about Amends. .

Hello all,
   Okay, this could qualify as an Amends spoiler, so I will put a
spoiler space just so I don't get in trouble

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Okay, now, does anyone now if when Jenny comes back to haunt Angel, if
it will be her actual visible spirit or just Angel's visions of her.
Because can you imagine what would happen if Giles could see Jenny!
What an emotional scene of BtVS that would be.  I can hardly wait.
Alright, just some random thoughts.

Jill
Keeper of Buffy's goodbye note
Keeper of Xander's concern for Willow's health


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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 16:23:39 PST
From: "I_LOVE BBALL" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BUFFY: Surfing

Hey!

I was channel surfing the other day and I happen to pass channel
fourteen.  Yeah it was california dreams! (I know) well anyways how does
this relate to this list?  Well buffy's mom aka Joyce (don't know her
real name) was on.  So I kept watching, she looked pretty much the same
except for, oh god what was she wearing?, and she was giving the lessons
of life to that dunb blonde (no offense to the rest of you blondes))
from baywatch about divorce.  Yup that's it.

MY two cents worth.

Natalie

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 17:20:26 PST
From: "Steve Brown" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BUFFY: Back to the photograph question

I just rewatched a bunch of episodes that I have on tape and something
occurred to me. There was a lot of discussion on this list after the
Halloween ep reran about whether vamps could be photographed or not. I
don't read or follow any other vamp mythology so please don't answer me
with what the V:tM series does or what white wolf says or what D&D
mythology has for vamps. Has it ever been established in the Buffy
mythology that you can't take a picture of a vamp? I know the reflection
question has been answered in a number of eps (What's My Line, Bad Eggs,
etc.), but what about film? This has been a long post for such a short
question I know. Sorry.


Steve B., a Buffyatric, Official Keeper of Xander's love of a good
diatribe -LTM. "Time's up. Rules change." Oz, B&tB.


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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:31:52 -0500
From: Jeff Rohaly <[e-mail]>
Subject: BUFFY: Season 3 So Far

So are there still people out there who feel disappointed by Season 3?
After Anne and Dead Man's Party, and even following that, there were a
number of people who expressed severe anticipation about the direction the
show was taking.  I must admit that I was a bit worried, but I thought that
it was early and I would give it time.  Well, we're now over one third
through the season.  Any minor doubts I had have been erased and I'm
wondering if others feel the same way.

Compare season 3 to season 2 at the same point in time -- after 8 episodes
- -- and I think this year comes out on top.  The eighth episode of last year
was The Dark Age, one that I had been eagerly anticipating but which left
me a bit blah.  So we hadn't come across the idea of a second Slayer yet,
Spike and Dru had not really done much beyond School Hard, a few glimpses
of Oz were all we had, Xander and Cordelia weren't together yet and nothing
really beyond a hint that they would become a couple, Angel and Buffy were
not nearly as close as they would become.

And when exactly did they get all that close anyway?  Looking back at the
progression of their relationship last fall, it seemed pretty inconsistent
when I tried to think about it.  I know they got as close as you can get in
Surprise, but earlier than that I mean.  Some Assembly Required dealt with
the jealousy Angel had for Xander, then there was no Angel in Inca Mummy
Girl.  In Reptile Boy, we had the coffee thing so they were just working up
to a date.  In Halloween, the date never really happened yet they were all
cuddly at the end.  In Lie To Me, we had Angel trying to protect Buffy from
Ford but beyond that?  Given the greatness that season 2 became, I just
think there's even more to look forward to this season with all the
developments.  The last half of senior year of high school is pretty much a
time for major upheavals for most people, even those not literally battling
demons along the way.  So sure the angst-o-meter is now in the red, but I
think it has to be.  It would be unrealistic to have these teenagers go
through what they've gone through the past two years and not be deeply
affected.  But there's been enough humor for me in the last several
episodes to at least partially balance out the darkness.

Finally, on something less broad, Anne was just on again here in Canada
tonight and something struck me.  Cordelia was away all summer in Mexico.
I had forgotten that and I don't really remember anyone here making an
issue of it.  It changed my perspective on a couple of things.  Despite
appearances in Dead Man's Party, Cordy had not been putting her life on the
line all summer like Xander, Willow and Oz and so she was actually a novice
in that opening DMP scene battling vampires (DMP had to have taken place
very soon after Anne).  With respect to the upcoming episode The Wish,
which from the promo we know involves Cordy wishing Buffy away, it means
she hasn't had a lot of experience in dealing with vamps in the absence of
The Slayer.  So I think it makes her wish a little more plausible.  Also, I
thought that maybe the summer bonding could explain why everyone helped
Cordelia in the battle for Homecoming Queen but that couldn't have been it.
 It really must have been just guilt for Willow and Xander and blind
devotion to Willow on the part of Oz.

Jeff Rohaly
[e-mail]


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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:41:49 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: BUFFY: Buffy mag #2

Hey guys...I desperately need sleep (still feeling kinda blech after sinus
reconstruction surgery) so I gotta make this a quickie.  Anybody know what the
deal is w/ ish #2 of the Buffy official mag?  I know they're selling it online
@ powerstar(?) or something, but is it avail. in bookstores?  Anyone w/ info,
please lemme know! Thanks!

- --Allison T.
[e-mail]
Too tired and lazy to dig up one of my numerous sigs...

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:42:03 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Back to the photograph question

In a message dated 12/5/98 5:22:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] (Steve B) writes:

> Has it ever been established in the Buffy
>  mythology that you can't take a picture of a vamp? I know the reflection
>  question has been answered in a number of eps (What's My Line, Bad Eggs,
>  etc.), but what about film?

Well, we know for a fact that they show up on video tape, evidence Spike's
continued rewinding of the tape while studying Buffy's fighting tactics.  If a
video camera's CCD sensor can pick up light reflected off a vamp and
ultimately rearrange ferrous particles on a plastic film, shouldn't that same
reflection of light should expose photographic film?  (I'm not talking about
reflection in the sense of a mirror, rather light reflecting off of the
subject, which is what allows all of us to see anything at all.) Unless
there's a strong connection between vampires and silver, in which case the
silver halide in film emulsion may be problematic.  If that were the case,
Willow theoretically should not be able to have any pix of Oz, what with
werewolves not mixing well with silver.

Mike  (another Buffyatric) [e-mail]
http://members.aol.com/PalOBuffys/Cordelia.html
The Official Cordelia Chase Keepers Page

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:47:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: BUFFY: Buffy/Angel relationship in Season 2

In a message dated 12/5/98 10:34:23 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< I know they got as close as you can get in
 Surprise, but earlier than that I mean.  >>
<major snip- points out SAR, IMG, RB, Halloween>
<<In Lie To Me, we had Angel trying to protect Buffy from
Ford but beyond that?>>

I think the development of the relationship was inconstitent; however I did
want to add the fact that Buffy and Angel had some major time together in Ted
(shown in one scene and more offscreen time implied), some serious moments in
What's My Line Part I (ice rink) and II (end, leading into Ted), and
definitely in Bad Eggs (three major kissing/discussion scenes). While lots
more development was needed, there was some more than was mentioned (I totally
understand the lack of screen time for Buffy/Angel together.  Not everyone is
gung-ho for them and it takes away from the major premise of the show too). If
I had my 'druthers (ooh, always wanted to say that), I would have waited at
least one more season to turn Angel or done more development of the
relationship earlier.

My two cents after inflation,
Marusky :)

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Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 00:22:42 +0000
From: Jack Welsh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 3 So Far

I think this has to be the best season so far.  I haven't found a
'standout' episode yet but I have liked every episode so far.  There is
much more consistancy than in the last two seasons.  In the first season
we already has "Teacher's Pet", "Puppet Show" and "I Robot You Jane"
(all episodes I HATED) and in the 2nd season we had "Halloween",
"Reptile Boy" and "Dark Age".  This season, although it hasn't had any
episodes like "Angel" or "School Hard", has had it share of good
episodes like "Homecoming" and "Lover's Walk".  Just my opinion.

I also don't hate Willow anymore.  I actually kind of like her now.

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