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From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest)
To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: buffy-digest V2 #475
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buffy-digest Sunday, September 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 475
In this issue:
BUFFY: Buffy:William the Bloody
BUFFY: Buf Mag
Re: BUFFY: Buffy on YTV
Re: BUFFY: The vids
BUFFY: Buffy on Video
BUFFY: BUFFY Video help
Re: BUFFY: Buffy:William the Bloody
Re: BUFFY: Buffy & Giles
BUFFY: Book Covers
BUFFY: Buffy and Giles
Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Giles
BUFFY: buffy book covers
Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Giles
BUFFY: Buffy and Xander
BUFFY: SMG at Emmy's
BUFFY: Buffy Conclusions on tape?
Re: BUFFY: Buffy:William the Bloody
Re: BUFFY: Book Covers
BUFFY: (fwd) Buffy 98-99 Preview! ((Spoilers))
BUFFY: SMG Emmy pic
BUFFY: Kendra help
Re: BUFFY: (fwd) Buffy 98-99 Preview! ((Spoilers))
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:16:07 EDT
From: MicroVamp@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: Buffy:William the Bloody
Ok. Here's a question. I remember in an episode (probably School Hard) Giles
or Willow said that William the Bloody was known as Spike b/c he impaled his
victims with railroad spikes (or something like that). Now, does anyone know
whether this was before or after he turned into a vampire? I'm thinking after
but you never know. Someone tell me what you think.
- -MicroVamp
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:16:14 -0700
From: jim <sixpak@erols.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Buf Mag
Hello all,
The only place I have seen it at is PowerStar and it's really cool
too because when you order it you get a free trading card too. I just
got mine today and they are great!! I love the mag too and every BtVS
fan should not be without it, and I seriously hope that everyone is
joining the Official BtVS Fab Club, as soon as I get the money I am.
Jill
Keeper of Buffy's "goodbye" note
Keeper of Xander's concern for Willow's health
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:35:40 EDT
From: Stabr143@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy on YTV
Ok i wanna know if there are any good buffy stuff out there ya know like the
aol thing of buffy i realy need things like that so send them to me please
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:51:52 EDT
From: Tracyrr74@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: The vids
In a message dated 9/18/98 11:35:16 PM Central Daylight Time, rickim@gte.net
writes:
<< Hi everyone!
If anyone is wondering if they should buy the videos, let me tell you
this. I just finished waching "The Witch"! Wow!!It's mostly the same
but, better. Little bits of scenes and words that wern't on TV like,
well...
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Buffy says "Vampire Slayer" to Joyce, that was not on TV.
Byee Ricki >>
It was on the tv version also. I remember it and also checked on my recorded
tape to see if I remembered right :)
- -
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:54:22 EDT
From: Krystey567@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: Buffy on Video
I'd like to know what kind of things Joss talks about in the interviews on the
videos. Could someone email me off list and let me know. Thanks.
Krystalyn
Be nice to dragons for you'd taste good with ketchup.
members.aol.com/krystey567
- -
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:50:18 EDT
From: Jazzetta@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: BUFFY Video help
I'm pretty new to this list, so I'm not sure how things work. I was just
wondering where I could buy the videos and if all the episode were on videos
to be sold somewhere. Cause on a web page, i saw some for sale, but Non from
the first season, and neither of the conclusion episodes. Anyone have any
info?
Jess
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:20:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: May East <khlio@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy:William the Bloody
I'd have to go with William the Bloody becoming "Spike" after he was
turned into a vampire. However, if he was named William the Bloody
*before* he became a vampire...well, for someone to earn a name like
that he must have been a pretty ruthless human. So I'm wondering, when
did he first become known as "William the Bloody"?
Assuming that Spike is two hundred years, or a little older (as
implied by Giles in "School Hard") then he would predate the early
iron railroads. (Not by much...I think they first ones were around
1800 -- and being "barely two hundred" Spike would have been turned
into a vampire around 1797, or earlier.)
All that rambling above, leads me to believe that Spike was William
the Bloody before becoming a vampire...but all that's pure
speculation. Sorry for the rambling, I think about this way too much.
- --MayE.
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
- -
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:06:11 EDT
From: Rmkhnk@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy & Giles
In a message dated 98-09-19 14:47:17 EDT, you write:
<< Buffy and Giles dating would result in felony land. If you think about
>it
>Buffy having sex with Angel is also felony land (Don't get me wrong
>I'm the
>BIGGEST Angel Fan). Does 'Statutory Rape' ring any bells?
>>
Actually, I believe in most states, at least Louisiana, it is only Statutory
Rape if the female is under the age of 17. Buffy and Angel did the deed on
her 17th B-day. He got in just under the gun. (pun intended for you dirty-
minded folks) And unless Buffy and Giles have been doing a lot more than we
know behind those book stacks in the library, he is safe now too. But I must
agree with the individual earlier that said something about Buffy and Giles
being together has a major "ick" factor.
Rachel.
- -
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:08:42 -0700
From: jim <sixpak@erols.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Book Covers
Hello,
I have noticed that all the BtVS Book Cover talk has ended. Does
anyone still have, for a lonely, feeling very left out, BtVS fan, a
Buffy Book Cover???? Please email me privately if so. Thanks to anyone
who can help.
Jill
Keeper of Buffy's "goodbye" note
Keeper of Xander's concern for Willow's health
- -
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:17:38 -0500
From: "mace" <mace@digitechs.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Buffy and Giles
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Quite frankly, I don't care if Giles and Buffy would be legal or not. =
I don't think I'd watch it anymore if they fell in love. There's =
something wrong with a highschool kid and her library messing around. If =
Buffy and Angel were not visiting "felony land," I'm assuming Whedon =
made very sure of this before Angel and Buffy got together. I'm certain =
the WB would have had a problem with it, were it illegal.
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:19:59 EDT
From: DIESEL456@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Giles
In a message dated 9/19/98 11:17:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mace@digitechs.com writes:
<<
Quite frankly, I don't care if Giles and Buffy would be legal or not. I
don't think I'd watch it anymore if they fell in love. There's something wrong
with a highschool kid and her library messing around. If Buffy and Angel were
not visiting "felony land," I'm assuming Whedon made very sure of this before
Angel and Buffy got together. I'm certain the WB would have had a problem with
it, were it illegal.
Mace >>
Gimee a break folks... Buffy and Giles are NOT going to get together. Xander
and Buffy, on the other hand, are.... temporarily
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:23:56 EDT
From: Missj1975@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: buffy book covers
I am looking for a buffy book cover but haven't been able to get my hands on
one. If someone could find me one, I have some READ Buffy bookmarks that I
would love to trade. Please e-mail me. Thanks.
Missj1975@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thu Ngo <savoir127@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Giles
I'm just gonna de-lurk for a sec to say that the statutory rape thing
depends not only on the age, but the age DIFFERENCE. Like, I think for
some states, if there's a relationship between a minor and an adult,
and there's only a four year difference between the two, than it's
okay, like if the couple were 17 and 21. It varies from state to state.
I don't think that applies to the Bufy/Giles sitch or the Buffy/Angel
one (seeing how, in BOTH cases, the age difference is WELL over four
years), but I just thought I'd throw that out, in case it helps with
the discussion. Sorry if it was a little o/t.
==
Peace & Love,
Thu Ngo ~ savoir127@yahoo.com ~
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:53:02 -0500
From: "mace" <mace@digitechs.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Buffy and Xander
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 00:37:22 EDT
From: Rmkhnk@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: SMG at Emmy's
A while back someone wanted to know if there was a picture of SMG at the
Emmy's. You have probably already found this by now, but in case you haven't
go to:
www.eonline.com/hot/awards/emmys98/carpet/video/gellar.ram
they have a clip of Joan Rivers speaking with Sarah about how she managed to
get into her dress, etc. They also noted, in another section, that Joan
Rivers had to ask Jerry O'Connell who he was because she didn't recognize him.
I hope this helps someone.
Rachel.
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 01:12:39 EDT
From: Jazzetta@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Conclusions on tape?
I have been taping every episode as it comes on, trying my best not to have
the commercials interfering. I want to know if there is a complete collection
of every buffy episode on a set of tapes that i could buy. If anyone knows
about where i could find such a miracle, please write back! Thanks!
~Jess
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:19:45 -0700
From: Jennifer <data@gte.net>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy:William the Bloody
> then he would predate the early
> iron railroads. (Not by much...I think they first ones were around
> 1800 -- and being "barely two hundred" Spike would have been turned
> into a vampire around 1797, or earlier.)
Actually, that would coinside, if Spike, in actuality, is 200, counting
Human and vampy years. Or has it been said that the 200 is just the
Vampy years?? So if it was just Human and Vampy years, that would mean
railroads WOULD be around before he was turned. :)
Jennifer Carey
data@gte.net
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:48:38 EDT
From: SheenaMG12@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Book Covers
In a message dated 98-09-19 23:14:24 EDT, you write:
<< I have noticed that all the BtVS Book Cover talk has ended. Does
anyone still have, for a lonely, feeling very left out, BtVS fan, a
Buffy Book Cover???? Please email me privately if so. Thanks to anyone
who can help. >>
me too
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:27:58 GMT
From: aly@unforgettable.com (Aly Walansky)
Subject: BUFFY: (fwd) Buffy 98-99 Preview! ((Spoilers))
On 20 Sep 1998 14:34:27 GMT, in alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer
powers1ayr@aol.com (PowerS1ayr) wrote:
>
>Well, I've got some confermed news about the some 3 season I got from =
Extra(you
>know, that entertainment show that comes on) online (you can only go =
there if
>you have AOL, so anyone with AOL that wants the link should e-mail) =
Please
>forgive me if this is all old news.....
>Here are the spoilers
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>I guess that's enough:
>
>***WARNING: SPOILERS BELOW!***
>
>
>
>
>"Angel will return, but he won't be like either version we've seen =
before. How
>would you feel after being send off to a demonic hell? And Buffy will =
want him
>back, but the new Angel may no longer be in love with her. All this =
will lead
>up to the spin-off Buffy series titled "Angel" - can you guess what =
character
>it will focus on? ;)
>
>Also, and this is just my conjecture, but Xander didn't warn Buffy that =
they
>were trying to save Angel's soul once again...and if Buffy learns this, =
it
>could drive a wedge in (or be the end of) their friendship.
>
>Speaking of Xander, he and Cordelia ARE still together - but my guess is=
that
>they may experience hard times around the same time when/if Buffy learns=
that
>Xander withheld crucial information about Angel in the Season 2 finale. =
That
>could leave Xander alone, with all his friends turning on himand would =
open the
>door for Cordelia to join the cast of "Angel," as I have learned she =
will do at
>the end of this season of Buffy!
>
>Oz joins the cast as a full-time member, and his love story with Willow =
will
>evolve and experience complications of it's own. (He is a werewolf, =
after all.)
>
>Two new villains will be battling Buffy: "Mr. Trick," a vampire I =
believe, and
>an older and more sophisticated version of "Spike." The second will be=
the
>very mysterious (and possibly demonic) Mayor, who is going to have an =
eerie
>connection with Principal Snyder.
>
>And, the big news, after the death of Kendra <I miss her!>, ANOTHER new =
slayer
>will be coming to town. She will be played by Eliza Dushku, who is best =
known
>as the daughter in "True Lies." How this slayer came about is a =
mystery,
>because even though Kendra died, Buffy is still alive, and theoretically=
that
>should mean a new slayer wasn't necessary.right? I can't wait to see =
how this
>one plays out."
>
>I'm only trusting this site because it's an AOL Keyword and most other =
the news
>on there is official and right. And like I said before, please forgive =
me if
>this is all old news....
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:52:57 EDT
From: ZABESTAG@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: SMG Emmy pic
In the new Entertainment Weekly (with Calista Flockhart & Dylan McDermott on
the cover) there's a cute (small) pic of SMG and Jerry O'Connell at the
Emmy's. Page 25.
I haven't recd my Buffy videos yet but am dying to know what the temporary
tattoos look like (the ones included in the boxed set). Can anyone shed some
light for me?
Liz S.
Keeper of Willow's pie chart compliments, "team player" status (Go Fish) and
"Willow, you are the best human ever! Well, that's the cookies talking, but
you ROCK!" - Xander - "Ted"
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:00:59 -0600
From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters)
Subject: BUFFY: Kendra help
I need a good picture of Kendra, alone. Does anyone know where I can find one?
Katie
Keeper of Buffy's Nail Polish, WIllow's leather mini, Cordelia's stakes,
and the heart necklace Xander gave cordy on V-Day.
Guardian of Spike's feelings of rejection from Angel & Angel's adoptive mother
Keeper of Joey's bathing suit.
"All you need is romance. And chapstick."
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:44:04 EDT
From: SXorceress@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: (fwd) Buffy 98-99 Preview! ((Spoilers))
possible spoilers, if you didn't read the BUFFY 98-99 preview...
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9
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4
3
2
1
0
all right,here we go. About the new slayer comming, Faith, played by whoever,
technically, she will be the REAL salyer. buffy died. she's a dead slayer
come back to life. as in, there's only once prez of the US at a time, and if
Mr. Washington came back to life, he would be a PRes, but not the REAL one.
see? so kendra was the REAL slayer, and buffy is a dead one, come back.
Thus, ((THIS IS ONLY MY THINKING)) when kendra, the real salyer died, a nw
one came in. I think. I'm not sure any of this is acurate, but I didn't want
to spoil it for anyone just in case it is.... thanks much.
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 17:29:19 +0000
From: ncr-panthers@juno.com (KK Wood)
Subject: [none]
Don't know if anyone cares but right now (5:30 EST) there is a movie
called Ticks with Seth Green in it.
Love, Laughter, and Lollipops,
--KK
Keeper of Willow's feelings for Xander
NCR-Panthers@juno.com
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