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From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest) To: buffy-digest@xmission.com Subject: buffy Digest V1 #370 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com Precedence: buffy Digest Monday, October 13 1997 Volume 01 : Number 370 In this issue: BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules BUFFY: Buffy shirts (and ramblings on my life) Re: BUFFY: Sci-Fi Buzz Times BUFFY: Even in Paris, my thoughts are with Buffy... BUFFY: The Buffy Beta Fanfic List BUFFY: The Anthony Stewart Head Mailing List BUFFY: Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters? BUFFY: Dru theory Re: BUFFY: What should they drive? BUFFY: re: Giles's past BUFFY: RE.: KEEPING NETIQUETTE BUFFY: SMG on Vibe tonight Re: BUFFY: Buffy: Xmission shirts & stuff Re: BUFFY: Re:Buffy sweepstakes/JLH appearance BUFFY: Final Observations. BUFFY: YTV cancelled Buffy! Re: BUFFY: Final Observations. Re: BUFFY: Final Observations. Re: BUFFY: SMG on Vibe tonight re: BUFFY: writers - another opinion Re: BUFFY: Final Observations. re: BUFFY: writers BUFFY: SMG interview and IKWYDLS review Re: BUFFY: soundtrack thoughts Re: BUFFY: YTV cancelled Buffy! Re: BUFFY: Don't forget to VOTE See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:48:21 -0400 From: sah <romana@mindspring.com> Subject: BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules If you haven't done so in a while, please review the list rules. We're seeing a lot of little violations lately. Thanks. Welcome! This list is for discussion of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer," both the TV series and the movie. The address to post messages to the list is BUFFY@XMISSION.COM. The buffy FAQ can be found at http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffyfaq.html. Please check it out ASAP--Cagey has done a wonderful job with it and it will answer a bunch of your questions about the show and fandom. PLEASE READ THE FAQ before posting questions to the list-- many common questions are covered there. Because we want this list to be a great place to talk about "Buffy," we are setting up a few ground rules. If you've ever been involved in a discussion list, many of these rules will look familiar. Hopefully, they'll make list life more interesting (and more fun) for everyone. Please note: we <do> enforce these rules. This is an extremely high- volume list, and we want to make sure that the volume is relevant to the show. 1. Keep posts on topic. Topics should be related to Buffy the series, Buffy the movie, the actors involved in either project, etc.. Discussion of vampires in other universes is fine as long as they're being discussed in relation to the Buffy universe. 2. Please be careful with the use of strong imagery or language in consideration of younger list members. Think "rated PG." Also, no masking (replacing one letter of a potentially offensive word with an asterisk). 3. No advertising of <any> non-Buffy related items or services. If you want to post information about Buffy-related merchandise, conventions, etc., clear it through one of us first. Also, no attachments, or binary files of any sort (including images, wavs, MOVs, etc). 4. Please don't post fiction to this list. There is a separate Buffy fiction list (subscription info below). 5. If you get advance information on a new episode, or see an episode earlier than the national viewing time, and you want to post about it, please do the following: **Mark the post as a "spoiler" in the subject header. **Leave about twelve lines (blank or with non-spoiler info) at the top of the post. This ensures that anyone who doesn't like knowing about an episode ahead of time is "protected." :) The blank space is for people whose mailers automatically open up the next piece of mail, without giving them a chance to see "spoiler" in the header. Spoiler warnings are not necessary after the start of the episode's national viewing time, which is currently set at 9 p.m. Mondays, Eastern Standard Time. Spoiler warnings are not necessary for reruns. 6. Most importantly, there will be ABSOLUTELY NO FLAMING ONLIST. We have absolutely zero tolerance for this kind of behaviour. Flames can kill a list, permanently damage relationships, and make life a lot less fun for everyone. Broadly defined, a flame is a personally derogatory, inflammatory comment about another list member, their progenitors, or about any of the actors, writers, directors, producers or crew of "Buffy." Disagreements-- even heated ones-- are expected. But the minute you start slamming someone personally, you will face the Wrath of Jill and Sharon. First offense: offender is uns*bscribed for one week. Second offense: offender is uns*bscribed to the Buffy list for a minimum of three months. If the offender returns and flames again, they're offlist permanently. And no, it doesn't matter that the actors, writers, etc. from "Buffy" aren't onlist; we won't put up with anyone flaming them anyway. There are slander laws against it. It's also common courtesy. Determination of what is (and what is not) a flame is made by the listowners, and their decisions are final. Determinations of any penalties associated with flames are also made by the listowners, and their decisions are final. 7. Related to #6, the listowners reserve the right to "kill" any discussion threads which either of the listowners deem offensive, or which appear to be degenerating into a flame war. If either one of us declares a topic "dead," it's dead. Anyone who continues the discussion thread, against our express <posted> wishes, will be immediately uns*bscribed for one week. 8. Please limit quotes of a previous post to four lines maximum per point you are responding to. Buffy is a high traffic list, and we're asking s*bscribers to be mindful of wasted bandwidth when they respond to posts. For example, here's an original quote: >I just love Buuffy the Vampire Slayer. It's my favorite show, and about the only thing I watch on television anymore. I look forward to each and every episode. DOes anyone know hot to write to the stars of the show, or where to write to show our support? Willow is my favorite character, but I like Buffy a lot to. And Giles! Woo hoo! I recognize him from VR5.< If you want to ansewr this person's questions about where to write, there's no need to include the extra stuff, so your response should look like this: >Does >anyone know hot to write to the stars of the show, or where to write >to show our support? You can even clean it up further and put it onto two lines, but you get the picture. Only include the relevant stuff in your response, so that people get what you're talking about. Penalties: First offense: Offlist warning (clearly marked WARNING: Overquoting). Second offense: Removal from the list for one week. 9. Please limit your .sig to 6 lines maximum, but do include your name and email address at the bottom of each post so someone can respond to you privately if they want to. Penalties for not following this rule are the same as for #8. 10. Do NOT post personal information, or requests for personal information, about the cast, crew, etc. of "Buffy" to this list. Personal information includes (but is not limited to) home address, telephone number, email address (unless the individual gives it out freely), etc. It's certainly fine to discuss who's dating whom, or how tall someone is, or things like that. But anything that could constitute an invasion of personal privacy (or could potentially be some type of threat to any individual) is strictly forbidden on this list. The penalty for this is ONE warning-- ONE. If it happens again, that person is permanently uns*bscribed from this list. If you have any question over what you're posting, and whether it violates this rule, please email either one of us. 11. And last, but not least, we reserve the right to deny subscription (new, renewed, or continued) to the list for any individual(s). IF YOU'RE S*BSCRIBED TO THE REGULAR BUFFY LIST AND WISH TO CHANGE TO DIGEST: You need to uns*bscribe from the Buffy list, and res*bscribe to the digest. Send a message to majordomo@xmission.com In the body of the message, put uns*bscribe buffy Then, send a second message to majordomo@xmission.com In the body of the message, put s*bscribe buffy-digest You'll go through the same approval process that you got when you subbed to the regular Buffy list. If you're s*bscribed to the digest version, and want to change to regular mail, do the opposite-- unsub from buffy-digest, and resub to buffy. THE BUFFY FICTION LIST To s*bscribe to the Buffy Fiction list, follow the same procedures as listed above-- just substitute buffyfic or buffyfic-digest for buffy or buffy-digest. TO UNS*BSCRIBE FROM ANY BUFFY LIST send a message to majordomo@xmission.com In the body of the message put uns*bscribe buffy (or buffy-digest, or buffyfic, or buffyfic-digest) Again, welcome! If you have any questions about these rules, please contact either one of us offlist. If you have s*bscription problems or questions, the fastest way to get h*lp is to e-mail one of us at the addresses below, <not> at the kirby@xmission.com addy which is the "official" e-mail owner of the list. Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) & Sharon Himmanen (romana@mindspring.com) Listowners, Buffy the Vampire Slayer Discussion List buffy@xmission.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:18:09 -0400 From: "Kim Sefcik" <ksefcik@conninc.com> Subject: BUFFY: Buffy shirts (and ramblings on my life) Hey guys, Sorry I've been lurking (half the list probably doesn't even remember who I am ;-) but I've been busy with college apps (chanting: please Chapel Hill, please Chapel Hill)/scholarship apps/biology research paper(anyone experienced with antibiotic resistance?)/English research paper (know any good resources on Animal Farm?)/studying for Calculus midterm (dy/dt?)/ and even working on a Buffy fanfic (always looking for good editors). ;-) Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I've sent the xmission list shirts out (I've already gotten some emails from people saying that they've gotten theirs (thanks guys!). If you don't have your shirt by this time next week, or if you have any kind of problem with it, please don't hesitate to email me. :-) And . . . for those of you saying "what's all this about shirts?" I'll be doing a second run of them later in the year (probably after Christmas) so you'll still have a chance to get one. :-) kimmie (what are the statistics on homework-related fatalities?) ________ Kim Sefcik, <ksefcik@conninc.com> Richie Reservist (Clan Denial) ~ MFWC & PWFC ~ Wombat Extraordinare ~ Chancer ~ Cousin ~ Early Edition Lover and Yet Another Bleepin' X-Phile Keeper of Giles' Past / Keeper of Angel's Lower Undergarments Secretary of the GASPers / Maintainer of the "Strange Luck" FAQ "I am Richie Ryan of the Clan... wait, can we try that again?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:28:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mike \"Nelson\"" <dagger@tiac.net> Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sci-Fi Buzz Times I don't know how much Buffy will be talked about in Scifi Buzz as he said it would be SMG and her costar in IKWYDLS. It will probably be mostly on that instead of on Buffy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:37:47 -0400 From: Jesse Jou <jjou@mail.med.cornell.edu> Subject: BUFFY: Even in Paris, my thoughts are with Buffy... Hello, all! I'm back, paradoxically refreshed and exhausted from my week in Paris to attend a medical convention with the doctor I work for. Paris was lovely, but even amidst all that old world splendor, my mind would automatically form ObBuffys of my experiences. 1) For example, Tuesday afternoon, tired and disgruntled, I was prostrate on my undersized French bed (the French, being on average smaller than Americans, have constructed their world 2-3 inches shorter than my 6' height. Twas like Gulliver among the Lilliputians! :-) ) Flipping through the 20 cable channels available on my TV, I came across the most fascinating German situation comedy. The premise: a single mother with her plucky teenage daughter and the Frankenstein's Monster who lives with them. In the episode I saw, Frankenstein's Monster helps the women thwart a burglar. Like any good imperialist, I frowned upon the alien quality of the natives' behavior until I remembered the horror of the American TV show, Small Wonder. In any case, as I saw this Frankenstein's Monster, so warmly accepted by the Deutschlanders, I felt a bitter tinge of regret that Darryl from SAR could not have benefited from the more open attitudes of the European continent. 2) Next, I turned to MTV Europe, where I caught the video for the Backstreet Boys' "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)," in which our toothsome lads, forced to spend the night in a haunted house, homage various classic horror movies (Phantom of the Opera, Dracula, the Mummy, etc.), whilst harmonizing tunefully, surrounded by provocative goth chick-a-dees. Needless to say, I wondered whether Buffy would have done the right thing and staked all of them or would she have been distracted by all that good hair? Buffy's faced the Three, but could she defeat the Backstreet Boys? To every generation is born a boy pop group... 3) Much has been made of the great beauty of the French people, but in truth, underneath all that silky hair and high gallic cheek bones, the French have the most uniformly attractive necks of any people. Men, women, young, and old. I found myself staring at these shapely forms during most of my time there and wondered if presentation means anything to vampires? I mean, among we who are life enabled, presentation of a meal is often just as important as its taste. Following this logic, would Buffyverse vamps appreciate the artistry of a supple French neck? 4) I returned Friday night and the first thing I did was watch my recording of IMG. For the first 45 minutes, my rapture was great. This was the Buffy and the Slayerettes that I remembered from the first season, tart and incisive, but also sweetly naive. The parallel between Ampata (has there been any official consensus on the spelling of the name?) and Buffy was particularly insightful and fresh. The minute they drew it, I literally exhaled because of its coolness. Unfortunately, the last act failed to live up to the promise established in the first three. How many more monsters will we lose to misbegotten love? And yet what other conclusion could we have had for poor, doomed Ampata? Returning her to her imprisonment would have been unusually cruel; it's clear that she was aware the whole time she was trapped in that sarcophagus, unable to move or speak. Yet letting her roam free would have been just as careless. Ah, me. 5) Willow, Goddess of Geek Love. Much has been made of Oz (Seth Green. Any relation to Bruce Seth Green? Scott Woodard, do you know?) in this ep, but Rodney is also worth noting, as the savage beast whom Willow tames with her gentle ways, as are Chris in SAR and, possibly, Dave in IR, YJ. I'm reminded of WttH when Cordelia mocks Willow's lack of guy magnetism and of IR, YJ when Willow bemoans that guys don't come after her. At the time, I interpreted this to mean that Willow was supposed to be unattractive (which none of us could understand as most of us would worship her like heathens if given half a chance), but the developments of this season have suggested something subtler to me. It's not her attractiveness that's the issue, it's the kind of guys she attracts. These are not the outgoing boys who ask any girl they like for a date. These are the shy, awkward, or marginalized boys; the ones who probably won't really date until they're juniors in college. If this is the direction TPTB are taking, with Willow as the girl who doesn't know her own power to enslave quirky guys, then I think I'm all for it. 6) Xander and his unfortunate monster-girl magnetism. The last one wanted him to fertilize her eggs then surrender his head to satiate her appetite. This one tried to eat him, too, but found that she couldn't. The pickin's are improving! You go, boy! Perhaps a career as a monster-girl escort could be in his future? "SWM, 17 going on 26, seeks outgoing, attractive female, species unimportant, DCF (Drug and Curse Free) for LTR. Please don't want to hurt me in any way. Serious replies only." JJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:01:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie <whtrose@eskimo.com> Subject: BUFFY: The Buffy Beta Fanfic List Hi all, Want a place to post your works in progress for feedback and beta reading before they get posted elsewhere? Then Buffy Beta List is for you! To join: send an email to gaspers@eskimo.com with either: S*bscribe Buffy-Beta or S*bscribe Buffy-Beta-Digest Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of ASH/Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - Keeper of Coats & Ties "Hi,Sonja, it's uh, Tony Head..." Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) To Me! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:00:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie <whtrose@eskimo.com> Subject: BUFFY: The Anthony Stewart Head Mailing List Hi all, Are you a fan of Anthony Stewart Head? Giles on Buffy, Oliver on Vr5, those Taster's Choice/Gold Blend Commercials? Then the ASH list is for you. You can talk with other fans about Tony over email. To join send an email to gaspers@eskimo.com with either: s*bscribe ASH-GASP or s*bscribe ASH-GASP-Digest in the message. Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of ASH/Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - Keeper of Coats & Ties "Hi,Sonja, it's uh, Tony Head..." Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) To Me! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie <whtrose@eskimo.com> Subject: BUFFY: Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters? Hi all, Are you a fan of Giles? Anthony Stewart Head? Then the GASPers is the group for you! We are a group of fans who share a common interest namely Giles/ASH, we are also the official Keepers of Giles' Stuff. Check out our Home Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html To join email me PRIVATELY and I'll send you the info on how to. Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles Coats&Ties "Hi Sonja, it's uh, Tony Head.." Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) to me!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:24:24 -0400 (EDT) From: cn2759@abaco.coastalnet.com (JW) Subject: BUFFY: Dru theory >She could also be the gypsy girl (I know she doesn't necessarily look >like one...) he killed before his soul was restored... so many >possibilities. Possible, but wouldn't the gypsies know then to keep her from rising. Or at least restore her soul as well. JW "If they're going to attack in force, Aren't we thinking..vacation" Xander, SHD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:24:10 -0400 (EDT) From: cn2759@abaco.coastalnet.com (JW) Subject: Re: BUFFY: What should they drive? >> Xander I can't even guess. Xander should drive an old blue and green van with the words "The Mystery Machine" on the side. JW "If they're going to attack in force, Aren't we thinking..vacation" Xander, SHD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:38:21 -0400 (EDT) From: cn2759@abaco.coastalnet.com (JW) Subject: BUFFY: re: Giles's past Been lots of talk about Giles past being involved with another slayer. I think that would be neat. Remember his father was a watcher, so what if he had a thing for the slayer his father was training. Giles may have been 16 or 17, it was his first true love, she was killed and he retreated into the "I'm so stuffy" attitude we all know and love. JW "If they're going to attack in force, Aren't we thinking..vacation" Xander, SHD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:55:35 EDT From: the_archangel_gabriel@juno.com (THE ARCHANGEL GABRIEL) Subject: BUFFY: RE.: KEEPING NETIQUETTE Morning Slayerettes. Tonights a new episode. Lots of new things to claim and Keep, so now's the ideal time to post this little project of yours truly, THE ARCHANGEL, and the Keeper Pages Listowners. It's a set of guidelines, hints, rules, netiquette....whatever you like to call them, on KEEPING. It's full of useful tidbits. Enjoy. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BUFFY FANS, ONE AND ALL!!! THIS IS A POST ON KEEPING. PLEASE READ THIS IF YOU HAVE EVER HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SAID SUBJECT!!! Keeping is for fun. It's a way of showing our love for the show and for our favorite characters. That's it. It's not meant to be a mad charge to see who can post first onlist about what thing they want and if you don't get it go crazy. I haven't seen it happen onlist for a VERY long time....that's a good thing....but it does happen. I just wanted to remind everyone that KEEPING is done purely for the joy of it. HINTS ON KEEPING: 1. Don't Do It Onlist (Xmission, PlanetX): In all honesty no one cares. The Keeper List owners may read your request but it doesn't matter because it's not "OFFICIAL." There are quite a few Buffy lists and they all have Keepers of things. The Official Keeper sites are used by all groups. If your very lucky, maybe the list owner will take pity on you and contact you back privately and tell you the proper procedure....but don't count on that. The rules that have been established are simple and are there for everyone. They're not written in stone, we're all friends here, so if you have a question ask a Keeper list owner. It may take a little while but they'll get back to you OR contact me (my addy's below). I'm a veteran of the "First Season Keeper Wars" and am more than willing to lend a hand. 2. Check the Keeper Pages First: This is a big one for all you rookies out there. Buffy fans are creative, literate, & compulsive. Obvious things get picked off in a heartbeat....so don't hold your breath on things from first season. The Keeper List's are updated weekly or as time permits but if you ask them for something they'll send you back a verification. So even if it's not on the list at least you'll know your the Keeper. Your best bet is to go to Lisa's Keeper Index page. It has all the current links to all the Keeper pages. If you bookmark any page for Keeping, this is the one. 3. Send Requests Directly to List Owners: After the first two, this one should be pretty obvious. Send your claim to the List Owner via their web pages or directly through E-mail. 4. Don't Fight or Flame: I know it's hard sometimes. You claim something the right way, then turn around and see someone on list praising there good fortune for claiming the same thing the wrong way. It happens. It's no big deal. Like I said before, I haven't seen many public flames but I've seen a couple polite "I Claimed it First Posts." If this happens you can do three things. 1: FLAME!!! FLAME!!! FLAME!!! This is not the preferred method & in all honesty is pretty petty & childish. Besides from that, your not gonna make any new friends of other list members or owners that way. 2: Share. Yes Share!!! There's quite a few CO-KEEPERS. So if your real horked about Keeping something and can't imagine living without it....ask to share it. This pretty much refers to new things though, people who've been Keeping an item since WTTHM aren't gonna be all that willing but you can always try. And 3: Defer Keeper problems to the Individual List Owners. Just tell them your boggle and they'll make an Official ruling. But keep in mind, when you do this the List Owners decision is like the word of God. It's final. If two people can't agree on something....someone else will decide for you. You've got to be willing to accept that. 5. Speed is of the Essence: Whatever your preferred way of claiming, do it fast. The Keeper List Owners get flooded with mail the second after an episode ends. Once again, don't waste time sending claiming messages onlist. While your doing that, someone else is claiming it directly & the right way. If you claim something right after a NEW episode you don't have to check the Keeper Pages to see if what you want is already taken....it's a NEW EP, of course it's not claimed yet. Send your message promptly, even time tag if you want for extra validity cuz' it's FIRST COME....FIRST SERVE. 6. Be Polite: Another obvious one. Being nice is always appreciated by everyone and no one likes a jerk. It's as simple as that.... Another quick note. Keepership of any of the characters themselves, their body parts, their love, hearts, family members, etc.... is not allowed. Just items/situations that they've used on the show (Buffy's Dance, Angel's Ring). I know you'll see exceptions to this on the lists, so if you want to try your luck go ahead. It's a general disclaimer. Also DON'T EVEN TRY to claim items that haven't even appeared yet. Just because you see something on a preview or hear about something onlist does not make it legal to claim or keep until that given episode actually airs. That's just plain old fashioned cheating....don't do it. O.K. There's the hints. Not that hard to understand and you'll find that Keeping becomes less of a chore if you know what to do. Below I've broken down all the Keeper Lists and List Owners. Use them. First is Lisa Rose's Index Page. This has links to *ALL THE CURRENT KEEPER PAGES.* Once again....If your gonna bookmark a page, THIS is the one. KEEPER INDEX PAGE: http://www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/keepindx.html Heres the Break Down of List Owners: Buffy Keeper's: Owner: Nic E-mail: Angelnbuffy@juno.com Site: www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/6358 Note: This site has just been updated and looks great. It's real easy to use because everything is indexed now. Willow Keeper's: Owner: Brenda E-Mail: creatv@concentric.net Site: www.concentric.net/~creatv/willow.html Xander Keeper's: Owner: Courtney E-Mail: the_halo@hotmail.com Site: www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6383/xclub.html Note: The word is Courtney just indexed her site too. Giles Keeper's: Owner: Sonja Marie E-Mail: GASPers@eskimo.com (This is for all GASP & ASH stuff) Site: www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html Angel Keeper's: Owner: Lori E-Mail: lady_rowan@hotmail.com Site: www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/4949 Cordelia Keeper's: Owner: Mike E-Mail: PalOBuffys@aol.com Site: members.aol.com/PalOBuffys/Cordelia.html Note: Mike's still trying to get previous Cordy Keepers to come forward but their loss could be your gain. Check it out. Ms. Calendars Keeper's (Techno-Pagans): Owner: Sabrina E-Mail: sabrinawww@hotmail.com Site: www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9097/mctp.html Spike & Drusilla Keeper's: Owner: Miriam E-Mail: Divine1798@aol.com Site: http://members.aol.com/Divine1798/SpikeDru.html Note: Since Spike & Dru are new characters, only one item can be claimed per person (for now that is). All Others: Joyce, Darla, Little Buffy, Extra Keepers, & Adopt a Vamp (Monster): Owner: The one and only Lisa Rose E-Mail: cybrpaws@wco.com Sites: Joyce: www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/joyce.html Extras: www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/aokeeper.html (also Adopt a Vamp) Little B: www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/lilbuffy.html Keep in mind that all these people put their time and effort into these pages. They work hard to make sure all us crazed Buffy fans have a place to display our addiction. Treat them well and shower them with thanks (& NO, I'm not just brown-nosing). There it is kiddies. Learn it. Love it. Live it. Brought to you by the ever humble.....ARCHANGEL. <the_archangel_gabriel@juno.com> GUARDIAN OF KEEPERSHIP My thanks to all the List Owners who helped proofread and support this project. (7 out'a 9 ain't bad!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:42:41 -0500 From: Steve Lang <otter11@ix.netcom.com> Subject: BUFFY: SMG on Vibe tonight Just checked the Vibe TV website and Sarah Michelle Gellar will be a guest on tonights show. Check your local listings for when this syndicated program airs in your city. - -steve lang ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:17:53 -0400 From: "Kim Sefcik" <ksefcik@conninc.com> Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy: Xmission shirts & stuff I'm posting this to the list b/c others probably have similar questions: >While reading through my mountain of mail I spotted something about BtVS >Tshirts and >ok, I know i live NZ but can i still get one of those >shirts. >How much, and where do i order one. I'm desperate.... >Help. Geez, if I had known this shirt thing would be a full-time job . . . :-) Well, originally, I wasn't planning on doing another printing until after Christmas. I have a full schedule until then. However, since apparently there is enough interest (the printers need a minimum of 12 shirts, preferably more) I might as well just dive into another printing right now. Let me think about it for awhile and look at my planner. Since I know the printers now, and the artwork is made, it won't be as hectic. Well, like I said, give me a day to look some stuff over and I'll let you guys know if I'm going to wait until after Christmas or just jump back into another printing right now. I'll post my decision to the list shortly. kimmie ________ Kim Sefcik, <ksefcik@conninc.com> Richie Reservist (Clan Denial) ~ MFWC & PWFC ~ Wombat Extraordinare ~ Chancer ~ Cousin ~ Early Edition Lover and Yet Another Bleepin' X-Phile Keeper of Giles' Past / Keeper of Angel's Lower Undergarments Secretary of the GASPers / Maintainer of the "Strange Luck" FAQ "I am Richie Ryan of the Clan... wait, can we try that again?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:26:42 -0700 From: Mary <marymary@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re:Buffy sweepstakes/JLH appearance Angela Mach wrote: > > If anyone can be so kind and post the exact addy for the 1-800-COLLECT > Buffy sweepstakes, we would appreciate it. Especially the ones who don't > have the internet access anymore Send your name, address, zip code, and daytime phone number on a 3x5 card with first class postage to: 1800COLLECT's Buffy the Vampire Slayer Sweepstakes P.O. BOX 4029 Blair, Nebraska 68009-4029 Dawn Keeper of Angel's Window Shades Keeper of Buffy's Smiley-Face Backpack Keeper of Willow's Flower Earrings Secretary of Buffaholics Anonymous Secretary of Willites ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:58:12, -0500 From: UQFJ91A@prodigy.com (MR MARK A WENTWORTH) Subject: BUFFY: Final Observations. Final observations from IMG. Did anyone else notice Cordelia watching Xander and Ampata go to the dance floor? This may have been an involuntary reaction; If this is the case, why didn't Willow look to see Ampata running off the dance floor. (If someone pushes you out of the way, wouldn't you turn to see who it was?). My vote is for a Sam and Diane (CHEERS) relationship develop between Xander and Cordelia. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:43:12 PDT From: "" <buffy_s@hotmail.com> Subject: BUFFY: YTV cancelled Buffy! I was on the YTV Buffy page, and it said that untill further notice Buffy is not in the schedule. This doesn't affect me personally, because I watch it on the new VR. But some Canadians (most...) don't get that station... if you would like to, you can check it out yourswelf at: http://www.ytv.com/shows/Buffy/ Just thought some of you may want to know.... Well, gotta book! cya -Jezika Buffy_S@hotmail.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9936 I may be dead, but I'm still pretty. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:49:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Joseph Keane <patk@gladstone.uoregon.edu> Subject: Re: BUFFY: Final Observations. On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, MR MARK A WENTWORTH wrote: My vote is for a > Sam and Diane (CHEERS) relationship develop between Xander and > Cordelia. > > I agree, and also Willow should find someone who puts Xander to shame. Not necessarily looks, but someone who treats her right. -Pat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:54:39 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Final Observations. >Final observations from IMG. Did anyone else notice Cordelia >watching Xander and Ampata go to the dance floor? This may have been >an involuntary reaction; I noticed this too and it reminded me a lot of WSWB when Buffy left Xander out there on the dance floor and Willow, Cordy and Angels' eyes all followed her out the door. *KATIE* http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Keeper of Buffy's Past Popularity and Nail Polish and Keeper of Cordelia's Stakes Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother "No! Bad plan. I have other plans. Dance plans....cancelled plans" -Buffy, "Inca Mummy Girl" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:56:54 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: SMG on Vibe tonight >Just checked the Vibe TV website and Sarah Michelle Gellar will be a guest >on tonights show. Check your local listings for when this syndicated >program airs in your city. For those of you in Colorado who watch Vibe on UPN, anybody know what time it's on? I can't find it in the listings. I already missed David (speaking of which, anybody out there who can send me a tape?) and I don't want to miss Sarah too. *KATIE* http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Keeper of Buffy's Past Popularity and Nail Polish and Keeper of Cordelia's Stakes Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother "No! Bad plan. I have other plans. Dance plans....cancelled plans" -Buffy, "Inca Mummy Girl" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:18:59 -0500 From: jennifer hanlon <jhanlon@brazosport.cc.tx.us> Subject: re: BUFFY: writers - another opinion I also don't have a problem with Buffy getting tossed about. What I wonder is: 1) How did facing the vampire crew in the season opener affected Buffy? She was close to over-training and perhaps took too much out of herself. I know as a teacher, after the end of a rough term, all I want to do is kick back with some pulp-fiction stories and let my brain rest. I was the same way after a season of volleyball - no physical contact for awhile. 2) Also, does anyone think that both Buffy & Angel are a tad preoccupied with their growing feelings for each other? People in love (or lust or deep like, whatever!) aren't as perceptive to other things. Folks can be oblivious to the rest of the world when they are in love. IMHO jclive GASPer Keeper of Giles' Inability to make smooth transitions in conversations ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:29:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Wolfkazzy@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Final Observations. In a message dated 97-10-13 16:06:51 EDT, you write: > f this is the case, why didn't Willow look > to see Ampata running off the dance floor. (If someone pushes you out > of the way, wouldn't you turn to see who it was?). Well, Willow had this really bulky eskimo outfit on...from the way she turned to try to look for Buffy, I would say she has a very hard time to turn her head either way, in order to do that she has to turn her entire body to look, if she did, it would be very awkward and by that time, the person who pushed her would be long gone. So I guess she knew it was a wasted effort. Wolfkazzy Keeper of Angel's Soul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:38:15 -0400 (EDT) From: cn2759@abaco.coastalnet.com (JW) Subject: re: BUFFY: writers Does anyone know how the writing staff of Buffy is made up? Do they have a full time team, or just hire out on an per-episode basis? JW "If they're going to attack in force, Aren't we thinking..vacation" Xander, SHD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:36:38 -0400 (EDT) From: DaisyFoo14@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: SMG interview and IKWYDLS review I just went to the website that is conected w/ Fangoria (I think) and it had a transcipted interview w/ SMG and preview of IKWYDLS. It's @ http://www.dungeonofdarkness.com. Enjoy! Alli T:DaisyFoo14@aol.com-GASPer-Keeper:C's Cell Phone,Sparkle Purse, light blue silk dress, X's Tweety Bird Watch, B's purp-pink lamp, green sunglasses, suitcases, W's light blue rolly hat, J's Earrings,"Effective Parenting" Tapes, Watch, G's dictionary stand, A's shoes, Jenny's Circle-Chain Belt, Lance's notebook,SHS lockers, bulletin board. Little Buffy items @ the site! "Think of something cool, tell him I said it."-Buffy,PG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:39:08 -0400 (EDT) From: TknoPagan@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: soundtrack thoughts In a message dated 97-10-10 13:15:02 EDT, you write: << B. the only band that is popular that has given to the show is Nerf Herder. the other bands might not even be signed with a record label. >> And dont forget that Cibo Matto already has their albums out..Well they have for a while...Did anyone else know that was Sean Lennon, John and Yoko's son playing on the Bronze in Cibo Matto? Jason Martinez TknoPagan@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:38:15 -0400 From: garundel@bserv.com (garundel) Subject: Re: BUFFY: YTV cancelled Buffy! >I was on the YTV Buffy page, and it said that untill further notice >Buffy is not in the schedule. I also checked the page, and then sent an e-mail. I haven't gotten a reply back yet, but that's not the point. I was watching YTV (Mummies alive or something like that) and they had an ad for Buffy at it's regular time. This may be a case of the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. I just hope the web page is wrong Grant Arundell garundel@bserv.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:39:28 -0400 (EDT) From: TknoPagan@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Don't forget to VOTE In a message dated 97-10-10 12:06:52 EDT, you write: << In a show like this, the writers have to have those extra characters who balance out the show. That's what Cordelia, the Principle, Ms. Calender, and Angel do. They are the supporting cast, and they take some of the pressure off of Buffy, Xander and WIllow. >> Actually Angle is a regular cast member now..... Jason Martinez TknoPagan@aol.com ------------------------------ End of buffy Digest V1 #370 *************************** To subscribe to buffy Digest, send the command: subscribe buffy-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-buffy": subscribe buffy-digest local-buffy@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "buffy-digest" in the commands above with "buffy". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/buffy/archive. 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