home
***
CD-ROM
|
disk
|
FTP
|
other
***
search
/
ftp.xmission.com
/
2014.06.ftp.xmission.com.tar
/
ftp.xmission.com
/
pub
/
lists
/
buffy
/
archive
/
v01.n210
< prev
next >
Wrap
Internet Message Format
|
2011-08-31
|
41KB
From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest)
To: buffy-digest@xmission.com
Subject: buffy Digest V1 #210
Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com
Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com
Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com
Precedence:
buffy Digest Monday, July 28 1997 Volume 01 : Number 210
In this issue:
BUFFY: Buffy FAQ 4/4
BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl
BUFFY: Tidbits
Re: BUFFY: tv guide (Internet BS-a little off topic)
Re: BUFFY: Question & Killer Line
BUFFY: New Buffy Page
Re: BUFFY: Tidbits
Re: BUFFY: Tidbits
Re: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl
BUFFY: Re:Commercial after Inv. Girl
Re: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl
BUFFY: past character sightings
Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations
Re: BUFFY: Cordy's kicking butt (was re. meaning of names)
BUFFY: ComicCon Question
Re: BUFFY: Question & Killer Line
BUFFY: The Uses of Enchantment
Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations
Re: BUFFY: Cordy's kicking butt (was re. meaning of names)
Re: BUFFY: Question and Killer Line
BUFFY: TV Guide Buffy site
BUFFY: The Uses of Enchantment
BUFFY: School Sign
Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations
BUFFY: wrong url for tv guide
BUFFY: Recycled Vampires
Re: BUFFY: TV Guide Buffy site
Re: BUFFY: Question and Killer Line
Re: BUFFY: Angel, Amy and other stuff
Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Question
BUFFY: New Buffy Page
BUFFY: The Buffy Beta Fan Fic List
BUFFY: Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters?
Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Question
RE: BUFFY: Music question
See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy
or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:52:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Buffy FAQ 4/4
IV. The Actors
"Buffy Summers": Sarah Michelle Gellar
Born: April 14, 1977
Credits:
I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997)
All My Children: Kendall Hart, 1993-1995; Ms. Gellar won an
Emmy for her role in "AMC"
Swan's Crossing: Sydney Rutledge, 1992
A Woman Named Jackie (1991) miniseries
Related Web Sites:
Bob's SMG Page:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/5772/
John's SMG site:
http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/joloam/
The SMG Collection: http://www5.outwest.net/SMG/
SMG Fan Page:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/9910/
SMG Fan Ring:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/9910/sring.html
*****
"Alexander "Xander" Harris" Nicholas Brendon
Born: April 12, he is currently in his 20s
Credits:
Children of the Corn III (1994)
Related Web Sites:
The Babe Known as Xander:
http://members.tripod.com/~AE_Collier/nicholas.html
*****
"Willow Rosenberg": Alyson Hannigan
Born: April 1974
Credits:
The Stranger Beside Me (1995) TV Movie
Switched at Birth (1991) TV Movie
My Stepmother is an Alien (1988)
Related Web Sites:
Alyson Hannigan Altar:
http://users.twave.net/shrine/ahaltar.htm
Welcome to Willow's Computer:
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lights/9251/
Willow Rosenberg, Hesitant Hacker:
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7779/willow.html
*****
"Cordelia Chase": Charisma Carpenter
Born:
Credits:
Malibu Shores: Ashley, 1996
Related Web Sites:
*****
"Rupert Giles": Anthony Stewart Head
Born: He is currently 43, brother of Murray Head
Credits:
VR.5: Oliver Sampson, 1995
Royce (1994)
Prayer for the Dying (1987)
Lady Chatterly's Lover (1981)
guest appearances in Highlander, NYPD Blue, and Detectives.
Related Web Sites:
The Giles Appreciation Society Panters:
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html
Rupert Giles, Master Librarian:
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7779/giles.html
Sunnydale Library:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffy.html
Fan mailing list: send a note with your email address to
ash-gasp-request@eskimo.com
*****
"Angel": David Boreanaz
Born: He is 27
Credits:
Married, With Children: Kelly's biker boyfriend
Related Web Sites:
Angel's Loft:
http://www.angelfire.com/ar/mafdet/angel.html
Angel Shrine:
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8126/index.html
Fan mailing list: send a note to titania@innocent.com for
more information.
*****
"Joyce Summers": Kristine Sutherland
Born:
Credits:
Related Web Sites:
*****
"Master Vampire": Marc Metcalf
Born:
Selected Credits:
The Stupids (1996)
A Woman Named Jackie (1991) miniseries
Seinfeld : recurring role as the Maestro, 1990-1996
Animal House (1978): Douglas C. Neidermeyer
Related Web Sites:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/8018/
*****
"Darla": Julie Benz
Born:
Credits:
Inventing the Abbotts (1997)
Hi Honey, I'm Home: ??
Two Evil Eyes (1990)
Related Web Sites:
*****
"Jesse": Eric Balfour
Born:
Credits:
No One Would Tell (1996) TV movie
Bloodlines: Murder in the Family (1993) TV movie
Kids Incorporated: Eric, 1984
Related Web Sites:
*****
"Principal Flutie": Ken Lerner
Born:
Credits:
Related Web Sites:
*****
"Luke": Brian Thompson
Born:
Credits: extensive film and TV credits, including these
notable sci-fi related roles
Dragonheart (1996)
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Jem'Haddar second in command,
1996
Kindred: The Embraced
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys: Goth the Barbarian in
"The Siege at Naxos," 1995
The X-Files 1993-97: The Pilot in "Colony, "End Game,"
"Talitha Cumi" and "Herrenvolk," 1993-1997
Alien Nation (1988)
Star Trek: The Next Generation: Klag in "A Matter of
Honor," 1987
The Terminator (1984)
Related Web Sites:
*****
Creator and Executive Producer: Joss Whedon
Born:
Credits: As writer
Alien Resurrection (1997)
Twister (1996) uncredited
Toy Story (1995)
Waterworld (1995)
Speed (1994) uncredited
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1992)
Related Web Sites:
V. FAQ Credits
The FAQ may be found online at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffyfaq.html
The BtVS FAQ is maintained by Cagey (cagey@geocities.com)
with suggestions and corrections by Hendu (hendu@usa.net).
Thanks to TV James for the miniFAQ which got us started.
The following people have also contributed to the FAQ:
Sharon Himmanen, Betsy Vera, Maureen Wynn, Leslie Remencus,
Kira Chistiakoff, Pat Moss, BioHaz, Augie De Blieck, Jr.,
Tom Simpson, Sonja Marie, Seth Kaufman, Trevor the Starlet
Priest, Brenda, Susan A., Alan "Anime Nut" Hufana, Violet
Starr, Elaine, X-Lander, Scott Woodard, Lady Elendil,
Brenda again :), Roselyn/SugarHI614, Joloam, Pamela
Hodermann, Raven626, Lori Wellborns, John E. (a Julie Benz
fan!), Titania, Lawless, Molly.
Special thanks to Joseph Northcott and Sharon Himmanen for
technical help!
Last updated 07/27/97
Please send suggestions, additions, corrections to
cagey@geocities.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:14:45 -0400
From: Kate <hrprobe@cybernex.net>
Subject: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl
I have a question about the commerical for Buffy after Invisible Girl that
aired tonight (7/27). In it I thought that I saw Angel a doorway screaming
"Buffy!"
Can anyone confirm?
Thanks!
- -Kate
Check out AngelusT http://www2.cybernex.net/~hrprobe/angel/index.html
Home of the Shirtless Pic :)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:11:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kiwi84x@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: Tidbits
Okay, I just saw the episode with the invisible Marcy for the first time,
and I loved it! I mean, I love every episode, and this combined suspense and
humor just perfectly! I started cracking when I heard something like this :
Cordelia: ...to know that we share the same feeling deep down inside
Willow: Nausea??
I was laughing throughout the commercial break on that. It was said
perfectly.
I felt a little cheated at the end when Cordelia, after beginning to show her
true feelings, completely changed her attitude and insulted Buffy & gang. I
guess she's a little naive.
P.S. What was that episode called?
P.P.S. How many episodes have been directed by Reza Badiyi? (He also
directed a few episodes of the show Mission: Impossible in the 60's or 70's.)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:09:48 -0600
From: Jodie King <jodieking@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: tv guide (Internet BS-a little off topic)
Just out of curiousity...
I am a teacher with cable Internet access in my class. I think there
are a LOT of students on this list and I would really love to know if
you are kind of warned in school that there is a lot of BS on the net
and that you shouldn't believe everything you read and that some stuff
is better left alone. Is that part of your Internet training? Most of
the high school students I know are pretty aware of the misinformation
on the Net and what *is* and *is not* appropriate.
Buffy is such positive show. I hesitate to use the phrase "role models"
but it is full of good ones. I'd like to make it required watching for
my classes but that might spoil the fun. I even like the way a lot of
teachers are depicted. As for the principals....well not all teachers
like the principal either. LOL
Jodie
Proud Buffyatric
Defender of Angel's integrity
Keeper of Angel's intelligence and wisdom
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:26:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: James Bjorkman <bjorkman@aecom.yu.edu>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question & Killer Line
On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Kimberly wrote:
> One of my favorite lines from Buffy comes from the great Willow when she is
> in the computer lab and tells Cordy to press the "Deliver" button and Cordy
> pressed the "Del" button. There goes all that work :-) .....just makes me
> wonder what you all feel is your favorite line from Buffy.
Kimberly, there are choice lines in every episode, but my favorite is from
"Out of Sight, Out of Mind" (aka "Invisible Girl") when Buffy spills her
implements on the floor and Cordelia goes in front of everyone "Behold the
weirdness."
ObB: Anyone else notice that when the FBI guys barge in at the end of
"Invisible Girl" that the telephone poles in the background seen
through the open door (like, do you Californians still have those things?)
look like crosses?
jb
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:28:03 -0400
From: Kristy Garvey <agarve@scrtc.blue.net>
Subject: BUFFY: New Buffy Page
Hi! I'm working on a new Buffy page, and i was wondering if any of you could
provide any advice on making it, or could suggest some good pages with stuff
to use for it????!!!!!! PLEASE??????
Kristy G.
*Keeper of Angel's Biting Wit*
*Angel and Buffy's Maid of Honor* (At their wedding of course!)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:39:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Huff <rhuff@cybercom.net>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Tidbits
> P.S. What was that episode called?
1) There is no on-screen title.
2) According to the Official Buffy Site. it's "Invisible
Girl", a.k.a.."Out of Mind, Out of Sight".
2) I've also seen the variant "Out of Sight, out of her
Mind".
Robert Huff
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:30:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Maria440@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Tidbits
The show is called "Invisible Girl".
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:33:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: James Bjorkman <bjorkman@aecom.yu.edu>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl
On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Kate wrote:
> I have a question about the commerical for Buffy after Invisible Girl that
> aired tonight (7/27). In it I thought that I saw Angel a doorway screaming
> "Buffy!"
> Can anyone confirm?
Yup.
jb
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:54:49 PDT
From: "Maddy :)" <buffy_1@hotmail.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Re:Commercial after Inv. Girl
>> I have a question about the commerical for Buffy after Invisible
>>Girl that aired tonight (7/27). In it I thought that I saw Angel a
>>doorway screaming "Buffy!" Can anyone confirm?
>Yup.
Nope! That was Owen from Never Kill A Boy On The First Date.
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:07:29 -0400
From: Kate <hrprobe@cybernex.net>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl
At 1:33 AM -0000 7/28/97, James Bjorkman wrote:
:> I have a question about the commerical for Buffy after Invisible Girl that
:> aired tonight (7/27). In it I thought that I saw Angel a doorway screaming
:> "Buffy!"
:> Can anyone confirm?
:
:Yup.
Thanks, but I was wondering what episode it was from.
- -Kate
Check out AngelusT http://www2.cybernex.net/~hrprobe/angel/index.html
Home of the Shirtless Pic :)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:15:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Girljen296@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: past character sightings
It's the strangest thing, but I've been seeing past Buffy characters
everywhere!
I think most people know that the blond girl from the pack is on General
Hospital now, but just this weekend I saw the dearly departed principle
Flutie in a prison on some movie, and then on Baywatch, on the same episode,
there was the head cheerleader girl, and the blond guy from the pack...Is it
just me or has everyone been on Baywatch...?
girljen
*keeper of Xander's Toga*
*keeper of Angel's statue*
Girljen296@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:51:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Girljen296@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations
In a message dated 97-07-25 01:25:25 EDT, PalOBufys writes:
<< (Cordelia, Angel, Ms Calendar) could be replaced more easily. If I was to
place a bet, I'd go with Ms Calendar as the first to depart. >>
If someone is leaving it probably would be Ms. Calendar. Angel and Cordelia
are both on contract for next season, so them leaving isn't an option. But I
think I read somewhere that there will be love stories for most of the main
characters. This could involve bringing in new people...thus creating
characters to kill off.
girljen
*keeper of Angel's statue*
*keeper of Xander's toga*
Girljen296@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:11:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Girljen296@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Cordy's kicking butt (was re. meaning of names)
In a message dated 97-07-25 07:02:29 EDT, biohaz writes:
<< > B) Join the Slayerettes
NOOO! This one I do _not_ want to see happen. The Slayerettes are
complicated enuf, they don't need a brain-dead member to join there
group. >>
I think that you're not giving Cordelia enough credit. You call her brain
dead, but in the invisible girl ep. she is able to debate her point fairly
well in class. And on several other occasions Cordelia has shown she is
actually very smart. Try not to confuse self-involved with stupid.
girljen
*keeper of Angel's statue*
*keeper of Xander's toga*
Girljen296@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:06:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Girljen296@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: ComicCon Question
In a message dated 97-07-25 05:59:21 EDT, you write:
<< The thing I have noticed is that Nick and Alyson are
really going out of their way promoting the show. >>
Does anyone know why SMG, ASH, and David B were not at the convention?
girljen
*keeper of Xander's toga*
*keeper of Angel's statue*
Girljen296@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:11:41 -0700
From: Sage <sbusse@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question & Killer Line
> ObB: Anyone else notice that when the FBI guys barge in at the end of
> "Invisible Girl" that the telephone poles in the background seen
> through the open door (like, do you Californians still have those things?)
> look like crosses?
Yep. I believe so... but I'm not sure I know what your talking about.
We have telephone poles EVERYWHERE. The ones where I live are found on
every street everywhere you look and at the very top of them, they have
a horizontal wooden bar-like log thing.
obBUFFY: I read the article on the TV guide site, and I didn't really
get a "internet fans are wacko" idea about it. I didn't find it rude at
all. It must really stink if people are floating fake nudes over the
net about you.
SAGE
mailto:sbusse@ix.netcom.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:15:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: CREATVJUSZ@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: The Uses of Enchantment
I happened upon this article while surfing the web the other day...it has
some really great things to say about BtVS...so i snipped out most of the
non-Buffy related stuff...thought you all might enjoy it...
B :)
_________________________________________________
The Uses of Enchantment
by Ann O'Tate
Television shows about adolescence in general, and high school in particular,
have always been somewhat supernatural; how else to explain a host of teens
inhabiting the bodies of people obviously half again their real age, or the
curious warping of time, where major activities tend to cluster around
homecoming, Christmas, and the prom, and these events themselves occur over
and over again, allowing for a matriculation so unnaturally lengthy that it
would seem to make manifest the common lament that high school is hell.
Well, not if your ratings are solid, I guess.
It is, of course, a specific sort of high school hellishness that's created
the first Warner Brothers Network show to attract enough ratings and acclaim
to distinguish it from the rest of the digital slop trough that undulates at
the far end of the dial. Thanks in part to some savvy scheduling and a heroic
marketing push, Buffy the Vampire Slayer looks to drive a stake through the
heart of non-major network television's other teen-angst franchises, Beverly
Hills 90210 (where the preternaturally youthful class has taken a page from
the yearbook of Dorian Gray) and that gothic melodrama in Gap clothing, Party
of Five.
In turning a suburban high school into a scary-but-sexy battleground for good
and evil, where Lycra-clad she-wolves, cheerleader succubi, and hunky
warlocks go head-to-head with the brave and buff Buffy (though her most
obviously gutsy act is a willingness to bare her navel), the show has created
a hilariously accurate depiction of adolescence's psychic toll, if not its
actual form. For that, one would have to go back to the sepia-toned moodiness
of My So-Called Life (whose ghost haunts MTV to this very day) - a show whose
untimely demise is unfortunate testimony to how accuracy fails as
entertainment. A horrifically honest flashback to the stunning revelations of
human cruelty that come with first dates and lunchroom hierarchies, My
So-Called Life was emotional truth with commercial breaks - part spell, part
curse. While it at first held the titillation of reading someone's diary, it
soon became clear that, like most people's diaries, not much was going to
happen, and what did would be incredibly, devastatingly obvious, especially
to the people to whom it wasn't happening.
Buffy borrows equally from the otherworldly antisepticness of Saved by the
Bell and from Xena's feminist fantasy to synthesize a truth that doesn't
exist in either of those universes on their own. To be sure, Buffy casts
blindingly white magic (Sunnydale High appears to share the same
dopplegraphic, not to mention the same campus, as 90210), but the monochrome
faces that populate the halls are just a human gesso for producer Joss
Whedon's ironically technicolor portrayal of high school's chiaroscuro
nightmares. At no other time does life have the same clarity, the same sharp
delineation of right and wrong and punishment and reward. The encroachment of
adult responsibilities (and adult desires) onto what is still plainly,
troublingly childhood, doesn't muddy the waters so much as provide for
variation in torment and salve.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:54:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Xainith@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations
In a message dated 97-07-28 00:50:03 EDT, you write:
<< If someone is leaving it probably would be Ms. Calendar. Angel and
Cordelia
are both on contract for next season, so them leaving isn't an option. But
I
think I read somewhere that there will be love stories for most of the main
characters. This could involve bringing in new people...thus creating
characters to kill off >>
I dont think they would kill any of the popular charecters such as
Cordy,Xander,Willow,Angel,Giles and of course Buffy but we might see a few
more teachers and principals die.One of them might move away or something but
i dont think any one is going to die any time soon but maybe in the middle or
end of the new season.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 02:14:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Xainith@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Cordy's kicking butt (was re. meaning of names)
In a message dated 97-07-28 02:06:19 EDT, you write:
<< B) Join the Slayerettes
NOOO! This one I do _not_ want to see happen. The Slayerettes are
complicated enuf, they don't need a brain-dead member to join there
group. >>
What do you mean NO Cordy is smart and is popular enough to get infomation on
evryone in the school and she has other capeabilities so dont judge her like
that because she is a very smart person and can be good help for the
slayerettes.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 02:27:28 -0600
From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie)
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question and Killer Line
>One of my favorite lines from Buffy comes from the great Willow when she is
>in the computer lab and tells Cordy to press the "Deliver" button and Cordy
>pressed the "Del" button. There goes all that work :-) .....just makes me
>wonder what you all feel is your favorite line from Buffy. There are some
Just out of curiosity, why do computers have two delete buttons? At least,
mine does. I think. One says delete, so it obviously is one. The other
says del and has an arrow with an x inside of it below it. I press that
opne, but nothing happens. Oh, well. You probably don't care about how
computer illeterate I am.
obBuffy: In "Invisible Girl", did anyone else notice that when Buffy was
completely silent and waiting for a clue to Marcie's where abouts, that the
way her hair was blowing had a great effect on the mood and look of the
scene? Where was the wind coming from?
Also, Where were they in the "surgeon" scene? I don't think they were
above the ceiling because when the MIBs came in, there was a door. Any
idea to where they might have ben? The door seemed to lead to the street.
Katie kmasters@rof.net http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html
Keeper of Buffy's Nail Plish and Past Popularity
Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother
Ask me about the BLS Newsletter
"I'm not just some crazy person. I'm the Slayer."
-Buffy, "Puppet Show"
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:25:52 -0700
From: Lawless <lawless@netside.com>
Subject: BUFFY: TV Guide Buffy site
TV Guide now has a Buffy features section up on their site. About 20 new
pics of SMG and a voting section. A Buffy postingboard (boy, we could
sure use on of those), and some stuff with vampire experts and other
vamp-related stuff.
It's at http://www.tvguide.com/tv/features/buffy/index.htm
- -Lawless
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:15:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: CREATVJUSZ@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: The Uses of Enchantment
I happened upon this article while surfing the web the other day...it has
some really great things to say about BtVS...so i snipped out most of the
non-Buffy related stuff...thought you all might enjoy it...
B :)
_________________________________________________
The Uses of Enchantment
by Ann O'Tate
Television shows about adolescence in general, and high school in particular,
have always been somewhat supernatural; how else to explain a host of teens
inhabiting the bodies of people obviously half again their real age, or the
curious warping of time, where major activities tend to cluster around
homecoming, Christmas, and the prom, and these events themselves occur over
and over again, allowing for a matriculation so unnaturally lengthy that it
would seem to make manifest the common lament that high school is hell.
Well, not if your ratings are solid, I guess.
It is, of course, a specific sort of high school hellishness that's created
the first Warner Brothers Network show to attract enough ratings and acclaim
to distinguish it from the rest of the digital slop trough that undulates at
the far end of the dial. Thanks in part to some savvy scheduling and a heroic
marketing push, Buffy the Vampire Slayer looks to drive a stake through the
heart of non-major network television's other teen-angst franchises, Beverly
Hills 90210 (where the preternaturally youthful class has taken a page from
the yearbook of Dorian Gray) and that gothic melodrama in Gap clothing, Party
of Five.
In turning a suburban high school into a scary-but-sexy battleground for good
and evil, where Lycra-clad she-wolves, cheerleader succubi, and hunky
warlocks go head-to-head with the brave and buff Buffy (though her most
obviously gutsy act is a willingness to bare her navel), the show has created
a hilariously accurate depiction of adolescence's psychic toll, if not its
actual form. For that, one would have to go back to the sepia-toned moodiness
of My So-Called Life (whose ghost haunts MTV to this very day) - a show whose
untimely demise is unfortunate testimony to how accuracy fails as
entertainment. A horrifically honest flashback to the stunning revelations of
human cruelty that come with first dates and lunchroom hierarchies, My
So-Called Life was emotional truth with commercial breaks - part spell, part
curse. While it at first held the titillation of reading someone's diary, it
soon became clear that, like most people's diaries, not much was going to
happen, and what did would be incredibly, devastatingly obvious, especially
to the people to whom it wasn't happening.
Buffy borrows equally from the otherworldly antisepticness of Saved by the
Bell and from Xena's feminist fantasy to synthesize a truth that doesn't
exist in either of those universes on their own. To be sure, Buffy casts
blindingly white magic (Sunnydale High appears to share the same
dopplegraphic, not to mention the same campus, as 90210), but the monochrome
faces that populate the halls are just a human gesso for producer Joss
Whedon's ironically technicolor portrayal of high school's chiaroscuro
nightmares. At no other time does life have the same clarity, the same sharp
delineation of right and wrong and punishment and reward. The encroachment of
adult responsibilities (and adult desires) onto what is still plainly,
troublingly childhood, doesn't muddy the waters so much as provide for
variation in torment and salve.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 02:38:37 -0600
From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie)
Subject: BUFFY: School Sign
I know that the school scenes are filmed at Torrence, California, but I was
just wondering, how do they get that Sunnydale High School sign up there in
the front of the building. It's attached to the building, so they cant
just take it down.
Katie kmasters@rof.net http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html
Keeper of Buffy's Nail Plish and Past Popularity
Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother
Ask me about the BLS Newsletter
"I'm not just some crazy person. I'm the Slayer."
-Buffy, "Puppet Show"
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:51:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Girljen296@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations
In a message dated 97-07-25 01:25:25 EDT, PalOBufys writes:
<< (Cordelia, Angel, Ms Calendar) could be replaced more easily. If I was to
place a bet, I'd go with Ms Calendar as the first to depart. >>
If someone is leaving it probably would be Ms. Calendar. Angel and Cordelia
are both on contract for next season, so them leaving isn't an option. But I
think I read somewhere that there will be love stories for most of the main
characters. This could involve bringing in new people...thus creating
characters to kill off.
girljen
*keeper of Angel's statue*
*keeper of Xander's toga*
Girljen296@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 05:20:35 -0700
From: Lawless <lawless@netside.com>
Subject: BUFFY: wrong url for tv guide
The URL I gave earlier for the TV Guide thing is actually a section of
the main part, called, The Buffy System. The main URL is
http://www.tvguide.com/buffy/
Sorry for the double posting
- -lawless
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 06:21:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Iocaste@aol.com
Subject: BUFFY: Recycled Vampires
So is anyone else amused by the obvious using and reusing of the same actors
to play vampires?
For instance, there's one guy who dies twice in Prophecy Girl -- he's the
vampire Buffy kills in the beginning, and then he's the one Buffy kills en
route to the library. And if I'm not mistaken, he's also the vampire Buffy
throws off the balcony in The Harvest.
All right, fine, maybe this whole post should have gone under a heading of
YKYBWTMBTVSW....
Ann
iocaste@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 07:01:41 -0400
From: apollobuff@webtv.net
Subject: Re: BUFFY: TV Guide Buffy site
Just got back from the TV Guide Buffysite. A lot of fun, make a beeline
for Sarah singing the Brady Bunch theme (pretty adorable and funny).
Also funny that only Lawless and I have wandered in so far, like two
drunks crashing a concert hall in the morning before that night's
performance. We both made posting mistakes and sheepishly had to cover
our behinds with further posts...oh well, no shame in my game...
Later (damn thing kept me up half the night)
- -apollobuff@webtv.net
Giles: "wel i.. i don't dangle a corkscrew from my ear"
Ms. Callendar: "that's not where i dangle it"
(hey Mike...sorry, just noticed yours...i'll change it tomorrow when i'm
not so tired)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 07:16:15 -0400
From: Virginia Eveland <dscully@erols.com>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question and Killer Line
Katie wrote:
>
> Just out of curiosity, why do computers have two delete buttons?
Computer have two delete buttons for the following reason. One delete
button is associated with the alphabetical part of the keyboard, being
that part with all the letters on it. You *can* and are supposed to be
able to stretch that little pinky of yours that far across the keybaord
if you use delete often. The other delete key is in the numerical
keypad, this is used for the rapid (by those who know what they're
doing) entry of numbers into things such as spread sheets, etc. Since
the whole point of the numerical keypad is mainly to enter data (unless
you play Subspace >:-) it makes since to have a delete key available
without having to shift your hand away from the keypad.
Boy, was that almost kinda correct sounding? (g)
>
> obBuffy: In "Invisible Girl", did anyone else notice that when Buffy
> was completely silent and waiting for a clue to Marcie's where abouts,
> that the way her hair was blowing had a great effect on the mood and look of the scene? Where was the wind coming from?
My impression was that the wind was present to show that she was paying
attention to the very miniscule things in her environment. If you are
completely still, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to sense a
change in your environment by the change in the air pattern on your
skin. Perhaps that was what she was doing, as well as listening for
Marcie.
- --
Virginia Eveland dscully@erols.com UIN 1517244
Pretender,Slayerette, Bab5, X-Phile
SYX, AGML, LGW, BLA, OBSSE, GASP
Keeper of Giles's Inner Child
Keeper of Buffy's Three Gold Hoop Earrings
Keeper of Little Buffy's Dogeared Copy of 'Horton Slew a Who'
- --
Visit the Buffy ICQ List
http://www.erols.com/dscully/buffy.htm
- --
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:02:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Vampyrslay@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel, Amy and other stuff
This is my take on some stuff, if it's already been debated to death, then
I'm sorry. Just wanted to share my thoughts.
<< In the scene where Amy is telling Giles and the almost dead Buffy what
happened, she said that the switch took place a few months ago. Does this
mean that it was her mom at the tryouts? If so, why was she screwing up? >>
I think that Amy's body just wasn't capable of the kind of things that her
Mom wanted to do. The muscle memory for cheering doesn't exist in Amy's body
and it would take a long time to develop the proper muscles and stamina.
(you don't learn to cartwheel really good in one day, for example)
<<does anyone know how to have their signature on a letter without having to
type it out every time you send mail? it would make my postings in the buffy
mailing list alot easier...could you tell me how please?>>
Just type what you want your signature line to say and save it as a .sig file
somewhere that you'll remember where it is. When you want to use it just
copy and paste it to your mail.
<<i read a book about vampires where they actually discussed the topic of a
cure for aids.>>
I read something about that also. In the books I read, R.L. Stine, I think,
the vampire gave the AIDS victim a bit of her blood. It wasn't a "whole
sucking thing" but that bit of blood overran the AIDS virus and eliminated
it.
<<but if ANGEL does become human again he might age fast and turn into bones
or Just might stay young>>
I have a thought on this. If Angel is a human who is possessed by a Demon,
but got his soul back. That makes him alive in a sense. His body was held
in stasis, without his soul, by the Demon presence. Couldn't they just
exorcise the Demon? His sould would remain, I think, because of the curse.
And I don't think he would age fast because he wasn't really "living" those
two hundred or so years.
<<But he isn't evil, or at least, he isn't supernaturally evil, so he could
be an ally>>
Are we so sure he isn't evil? Remember in the Puppet episode (I can never
remember the title) when Giles sees him standing in the doorway and the light
from behind made his ears glow? Almost like demon horns, I thought.
Just one more! Someone (sorry forgot to copy the line) asked how the aging
of Colin would be handled since the real boy would continue to grow, but a
vampire boy wouldn't. Was it ever actually stated that Colin had become a
vampire? Maybe the Master was waiting for him to grow a bit first, and he is
still actually human. I don't know for sure, anyone know for sure?
Any takes on this stuff, I would expecially like to hear some opinions on the
Angel exorcism idea.
Vampyrslay@aol.com (Melissa)
"I think I speak for the rest of us when I say, 'Huh?' " Buffy Summers, Invis
ible Girl
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:04:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave-Fu Master <ngan@rohan.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Question
Joss was asked that very question about why SMG and David B. were not at
the ComicCon with their co-stars Nick and Alyson. Joss said that SMG was
at a photo-shoot. I'm positive that he said the same for David B.
Photo-shoot shmoto-shoot. You guys should've been there darn it!!!
*just kidding* =) I guess I was kinda glad that SMG and David B. didn't
show up at the ComicCon. Now, before I get castrated by most of the
female fans of Angel on this mailing list, let me explain. IMHO, if SMG
had shown up, I think her presence would've overshadowed that of Alyson's.
And by doing so, I might not have seen the true Alyson shine through.
I'll reiterate on an statement I had made earlier on, in that I think that
Alyson's real life personality so much embodied that of Willow's in BtVs;
that that what made her so cute, lovable, and accepted by her many loyal
fans.
Oh sure, it would of been utterly fantastic if the entire cast did make
an appearance. And that may have given more than 15 min for the question
and answer portion of the convention. And I could've gotten all of their
signatures on the poster. =) But sometimes less is more. In this case,
I agree with that whole-heartedly. *8^)
Dave N.
- - Get busy living or get busy dying.
- - "He doesn't sound like a person who would have a hairy back."
- Willow, BtVS
ngan@rohan.sdsu.edu
ngand@manta.nosc.mil
masc0221@rohan.sdsu.edu
masc1296@rohan.sdsu.edu
On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 Girljen296@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 97-07-25 05:59:21 EDT, you write:
>
> << The thing I have noticed is that Nick and Alyson are
> really going out of their way promoting the show. >>
>
> Does anyone know why SMG, ASH, and David B were not at the convention?
>
> girljen
> *keeper of Xander's toga*
> *keeper of Angel's statue*
> Girljen296@aol.com
>
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:49:49 -0400
From: Kristy Garvey <agarve@scrtc.blue.net>
Subject: BUFFY: New Buffy Page
Hi! I'm working on a new Buffy page, and i was wondering if any of you could
provide any advice on making it, or could suggest some good pages with stuff
to use for it????!!!!!! PLEASE??????
Kristy G.
*Keeper of Angel's Biting Wit*
*Angel and Buffy's Maid of Honor* (At their wedding of course!)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:54:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sonja Marie <whtrose@eskimo.com>
Subject: BUFFY: The Buffy Beta Fan Fic List
Hi all,
Want a place to post you unfinished work so other can read it and help you
get it ready for others to read? Then this is the place for you!
This is where you can get your work critiqued, etc. We will except all
Buffy and related stories and VR5 related stories (IF Oliver Sampson is
the main character).
To join:
1. send a email to buffy-beta-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com
2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA or S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA-DIGEST
Thanks!
(PS email me about the Anthony Stewart Head Mailing List if you are
interested)
Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html
Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html
Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html
Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List
Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles' Coats&Ties
ASH Appreciation Society Member - Watch Buffy: the Vampire Slayer - Series!
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sonja Marie <whtrose@eskimo.com>
Subject: BUFFY: Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters?
Hi all,
Are you a fan of Giles? Anthony Stewart Head? Then the GASPers is the
group for you! We are a group of fans who share a common interest namely
Giles/ASH, we are also the official Keepers of Giles' Stuff.
Check out our Home Page at:
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html
Hurry pickings are slim, once what's left is gone, I'll be stopping
admission till next season starts.
To join email me PRIVATELY and I'll send you the info on how to.
Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html
Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html
Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html
Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List
Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles Coats&Ties
"Because I'm English, I'm Strange Anyway" - Anthony Stewart Head (Giles - BTVS)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:05:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Xainith@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Question
In a message dated 97-07-28 03:00:14 EDT, you write:
<< Does anyone know why SMG, ASH, and David B were not at the convention? >>
SMG wasnt there because she was doing SCREAM 2.
ASH and David B i dont know why.
------------------------------
Date:
From: RemencusL@jsc.mil
Subject: RE: BUFFY: Music question
Ann wondered:
>>Just wondering if anyone knows the band/song playing in Teacher's
Pet, when Xander is blown off by the singer at the Bronze.<<
The band is Superfine. They're singing "Already Met You" when Xander
walks in.
Leslie
Natpack~HPotCoS~GASPer~AGA~Slayer
LaremyB@aol.com or RemencusL@jsc.mil
------------------------------
End of buffy Digest V1 #210
***************************
To subscribe to buffy Digest, send the command:
subscribe buffy-digest
in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to
subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such
as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the
"subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-buffy":
subscribe buffy-digest local-buffy@your.domain.net
A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to
subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "buffy-digest"
in the commands above with "buffy".
Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in
pub/lists/buffy/archive. These are organized by date.