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beehive-beemers-digest   Wednesday, December 9 1998   Volume 01 : Number 028




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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:01:41 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Happy Thanksgiving!

John,

Call Dave Chapman.  Do you have his phone number from a Stinger cover or the
club roster?

If not I'll send it to you.

Deav
- -----Original Message-----
From: john beeson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: BB: Happy Thanksgiving!


>Hi y'all from from Sisters Or.  I'm on the list now so you can start
>saying things about me.
>
>Gee DeVern, can I help out too???  Lila and I are coming over to the
>Christmas Party. We are picking up her wrecked Yamaha in Idaho on the
>way and I think it would make a great yard ornament for Billie Bob.
>
>BTW who do I get in touch with for reserevations for the party.
>
>from the recreation center of oregon (damn tourists)
>
>John
>
>-
>
>


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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:58:29 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Happy Thanksgiving!

tHIS WOULDEN'T BE JOHN B. WOULD IT?

I've got alot to say to & about you!
Welcome John
Bob Jensen

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:05:06 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Happy Thanksgiving!

Remember John.....You and the Idahoen's have to sit on the back row with
Big D.....

Bobster

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:04:21 -0800
From: john beeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Happy Thanksgiving!

Bob, you have to remember, teachers always sit in the back of the room.

You don't get called on as much and it's closer to the door.(and

sometimes its the first to be served) Also teachers are the hardest to

quiet down, what they have to say is much more important than anything

that could come from the front of the room :-)  Isn't that right

Devern :-) ;-)


John B.

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:24:48 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: e-mail addressing ?

Oh Great Wise Ones,

How do I set my ie4.0 address book to automatically save the e-mail address
of all incoming mail?

In Your Debt,

Tom Deaver
Still in the Wasatch


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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:27:24 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Follow up to question by a dummy - me.

In regard to the address saving in the Address Book:

I forgot to mention I' m using Outlook Express for  mail handling.

TIA

Tom Deaver
Still in the Wasatch


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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:04:58 -0700
From: "DeVern Gerber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Happy Thanksgiving!

Yeah, that's right.  In fact, Dave C keeps asking me to MC the
banquet this year and I keep turning him down.  However, if I had a
deep repertoire of Bobster jokes, anecdotes, and tales of great faux
paus on the Bobster's part, I just might be persuaded to move to
the front of the room.  Send me your contributions off-list.

Bob, I have you in my sights.....  squeezing gently.......
:^)
DG

On 26 Nov 98, at 15:04, john beeson wrote:

> Bob, you have to remember, teachers always sit in the back of the room.
>
> You don't get called on as much and it's closer to the door.(and
>
> sometimes its the first to be served) Also teachers are the hardest to
>
> quiet down, what they have to say is much more important than anything
>
> that could come from the front of the room :-)  Isn't that right
>
> Devern :-) ;-)
>
>
> John B.
>
> -
>
>



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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:22:54 -0700
From: "DeVern Gerber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Re: BMW: Follow up to question by a dummy - me.

Tom;

I wish you luck with this.  IMHO, Outlook is one of the least refined
and most problematic components of the Microsoft package.  Even
when it's running well, it's still only a so-so product.  You'd be
better off getting a *real* mail program and configuring Explorer to
use it for mail access (easy to do, just look in your preferences).
However, since most of the newer email packages are capable of
displaying mail in HTML format (gawd, how I hate html-based mail!)
I'm not sure why you'd want to mess with the browser at all.
Assuming you're on a Win95 PC, there are a number of good free
email programs available.  I'd suggest giving Pegasus
(http://www.pegasus.usa.com) or Eudora Light (closest download
would be http://www.helpdesk.k12.ut.us/windows.htm) a try.
Good Luck,

DeVern

On 26 Nov 98, at 20:27, Tom Deaver wrote:

>
> In regard to the address saving in the Address Book:
>
> I forgot to mention I' m using Outlook Express for  mail handling.
>
> TIA
>
> Tom Deaver
> Still in the Wasatch
>
>


DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]

1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant

'83 R80ST
'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:51:45 -0700
From: Michael Clark <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: RE: e-mail addressing ?

Can't be done. The closest you can get is to have Outlook Express save
the address of all replied-to mail.

- -- Mike

        -----Original Message-----
        From:    Tom Deaver [mailto:[e-mail]]
        Sent:    Thursday, November 26, 1998 8:25 PM
        To:    IBMWR; Beehive Beemers
        Subject:    BB: e-mail addressing ?

        Oh Great Wise Ones,

        How do I set my ie4.0 address book to automatically save
the e-mail address
        of all incoming mail?

        In Your Debt,

        Tom Deaver
        Still in the Wasatch


        -

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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:03:10 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Re: Re: BMW: Follow up to question by a dummy - me.

DeVern,

Thanks for the assist.  I guess what I really wanted but did not realize the
facts was to save the address to those I reply to.  List members have helped
me do this.

Thanks,
Deav

PS:  you would be and are one of the best MC's I know of please do the BB
Xmas.

- -----Original Message-----
From: DeVern Gerber <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>;
Tom Deaver <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 9:25 PM
Subject: BB: Re: BMW: Follow up to question by a dummy - me.


Tom;

I wish you luck with this.  IMHO, Outlook is one of the least refined
and most problematic components of the Microsoft package.  Even
when it's running well, it's still only a so-so product.  You'd be
better off getting a *real* mail program and configuring Explorer to
use it for mail access (easy to do, just look in your preferences).
However, since most of the newer email packages are capable of
displaying mail in HTML format (gawd, how I hate html-based mail!)
I'm not sure why you'd want to mess with the browser at all.
Assuming you're on a Win95 PC, there are a number of good free
email programs available.  I'd suggest giving Pegasus
(http://www.pegasus.usa.com) or Eudora Light (closest download
would be http://www.helpdesk.k12.ut.us/windows.htm) a try.
Good Luck,

DeVern

On 26 Nov 98, at 20:27, Tom Deaver wrote:

>
> In regard to the address saving in the Address Book:
>
> I forgot to mention I' m using Outlook Express for  mail handling.
>
> TIA
>
> Tom Deaver
> Still in the Wasatch
>
>


DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]

1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant

'83 R80ST
'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)

- -




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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:05:14 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Re: RE: e-mail addressing ?

Michael,

I appreciate your knowledgeable reply.  Your response was what I was
actually after.  Thanks for the   tip.  I'm now rebuilding my address book
your way.

Hope to see you at the Party,
Deav

- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael Clark <[e-mail]>
To: '[e-mail]'
<[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 11:52 PM
Subject: BB: RE: e-mail addressing ?


>Can't be done. The closest you can get is to have Outlook Express save
>the address of all replied-to mail.
>
>-- Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Deaver [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 1998 8:25 PM
> To: IBMWR; Beehive Beemers
> Subject: BB: e-mail addressing ?
>
> Oh Great Wise Ones,
>
> How do I set my ie4.0 address book to automatically save
>the e-mail address
> of all incoming mail?
>
> In Your Debt,
>
> Tom Deaver
> Still in the Wasatch
>
>
> -
>
>-
>
>


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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:11:19 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Happy Thanksgiving!

John,

Happy Thanksgiving,

Tom D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: john beeson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: BB: Happy Thanksgiving!


>Bob, you have to remember, teachers always sit in the back of the room.
>
>You don't get called on as much and it's closer to the door.(and
>
>sometimes its the first to be served) Also teachers are the hardest to
>
>quiet down, what they have to say is much more important than anything
>
>that could come from the front of the room :-)  Isn't that right
>
>Devern :-) ;-)
>
>
>John B.
>
>-
>
>


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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:55:05 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Stinger Stamping?

Hey all,

How about repeating the Stinger staple stomp thing this Monday evening say
7:30 my house?

Let me know.
Tom Deaver
(I guess I better get it done by them, Huh.)


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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:06:42 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: BB: Stinger Stamping?

Tom;

    I can come over to help on monday evening,  I just need
directions to your house.


Jeff Stokes
 88 R100RT

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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:52:08 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Stinger Stamping?

Jeff,

I'm at 1631 East Downington Ave. (1810 South) in SLC.

I-80 to 13 th east  north on 13th east to 21st south.  turn east on 21st
south to 2nd light.  This is 17th east. turn north to Downington Ave. (1810
S.) turn left. House on right. white eves over gray bottom.

See ya at 7:30 p.m.

Thanks,
Tom
- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: BB: Stinger Stamping?


Tom;

    I can come over to help on monday evening,  I just need
directions to your house.


Jeff Stokes
88 R100RT

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:44:22 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: news

To who it may concern......

Acording to our local athority. The acquisition by BMW of - Aprilla ,
Norton, and KTM is impending !

Bob

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:49:56 -0700
From: "DeVern Gerber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: news

Bob, you should quit trying to be a "local authority."

So does this mean we will have a BMW trials bike?? It will have
great torque, lots of sex appeal, won't shift for sour apple butter,
will only be warranted for 3 events or 36 sections, whichever comes
first, and will still be running long after it's owners have stopped
finding things to complain about.  Or will we see BMWs with
elastomeric motor mounts??  Perhaps a hybred machine
(BORTON??  BNORT??  NORMW??) combining the best features
of BMW (smoothness, reliability, handling, power) with the best
features of Norton (uhhh, uhhhhhhh, uuuhhhhhhhhhhhh......yellow
gas tanks? )??  Or maybe a Norton/KTM hybred, the NORTOM.  It
will feature a chain drive system that is self-lubricated via
crankcase and primary cover leaks.  What the hell, let's just throw
all of them into the mix and build a machine that has Italian switch
gear, Lucas electrics, and true knobby tires.  Yeah, that's it, a
machine with British vibration and reliability, switch gear and
electricals that go belly up if it rains in the next county over, cobbly
rough sand castings and dirt bike styling, and those beautiful blue
and white rondels.  Oooooohh, sign me up for two, and a hundred
shares of Mobil Oil to go.  Hey, did you know that in Jolly Old
England motorcycles have to pass an emissions test....  with the
engine off and the bike parked in your garage??  Did you know that
you can potty train a  british bike using a newspaper, a metal tray
and a few pounds of kitty litter??  Did you know that in Britain if
you mention "nocturnal emissions" it is understood to refer to what
your British bike does on the driveway overnight???

BMW missed their acquisition chance when they ignored Ducati
long enough to let the Texans step in.  You know, Ducati--one of
the two most popular second bikes among BMW owners.  (H-D
being the other).  Imagine not wasting time and money designing
the ST2/ST4 and the R1100S...  Imagine a 916 with rondels on the
tank and parts that you could actually purchase in the same
calendar year you ordered them.....  Imagine the R11RS with all
the update money that was poured into the R11S....  Imagine a 916
with Telelever front end......   Aahhhh, the boys in Berlin missed
their chance.......

DeVern

On 30 Nov 98, at 22:44, Jess Jensen wrote:

> To who it may concern......
>
> Acording to our local athority. The acquisition by BMW of - Aprilla ,
> Norton, and KTM is impending !
>
> Bob
>
> -
>
>


DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]

1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant

'83 R80ST
'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:35:41 -0700
From: Gavin Wallace <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: news

DeVern,

I always try to understand what makes people tick.  In your case though,
I'll make an exception.  You're scaring me!  You are correct about the sum
total of the engineering contribution of the Norton.

Gavin Wallace
1996 R1100RTL

At 09:49 PM 11/30/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Bob, you should quit trying to be a "local authority."
>
>So does this mean we will have a BMW trials bike?? It will have
>great torque, lots of sex appeal, won't shift for sour apple butter,
>will only be warranted for 3 events or 36 sections, whichever comes
>first, and will still be running long after it's owners have stopped
>finding things to complain about.  Or will we see BMWs with
>elastomeric motor mounts??  Perhaps a hybred machine
>(BORTON??  BNORT??  NORMW??) combining the best features
>of BMW (smoothness, reliability, handling, power) with the best
>features of Norton (uhhh, uhhhhhhh, uuuhhhhhhhhhhhh......yellow
>gas tanks? )??  Or maybe a Norton/KTM hybred, the NORTOM.  It
>will feature a chain drive system that is self-lubricated via
>crankcase and primary cover leaks.  What the hell, let's just throw
>all of them into the mix and build a machine that has Italian switch
>gear, Lucas electrics, and true knobby tires.  Yeah, that's it, a
>machine with British vibration and reliability, switch gear and
>electricals that go belly up if it rains in the next county over, cobbly
>rough sand castings and dirt bike styling, and those beautiful blue
>and white rondels.  Oooooohh, sign me up for two, and a hundred
>shares of Mobil Oil to go.  Hey, did you know that in Jolly Old
>England motorcycles have to pass an emissions test....  with the
>engine off and the bike parked in your garage??  Did you know that
>you can potty train a  british bike using a newspaper, a metal tray
>and a few pounds of kitty litter??  Did you know that in Britain if
>you mention "nocturnal emissions" it is understood to refer to what
>your British bike does on the driveway overnight???
>
>BMW missed their acquisition chance when they ignored Ducati
>long enough to let the Texans step in.  You know, Ducati--one of
>the two most popular second bikes among BMW owners.  (H-D
>being the other).  Imagine not wasting time and money designing
>the ST2/ST4 and the R1100S...  Imagine a 916 with rondels on the
>tank and parts that you could actually purchase in the same
>calendar year you ordered them.....  Imagine the R11RS with all
>the update money that was poured into the R11S....  Imagine a 916
>with Telelever front end......   Aahhhh, the boys in Berlin missed
>their chance.......
>
>DeVern
>
>On 30 Nov 98, at 22:44, Jess Jensen wrote:
>
>> To who it may concern......
>>
>> Acording to our local athority. The acquisition by BMW of - Aprilla ,
>> Norton, and KTM is impending !
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>
>
>DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]
>
>1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant
>
>'83 R80ST
>'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)
>
>-
>
>


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 00:59:40 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: news

Seeche........Big D.....I guess this concerned you?.......Don't get your
panties in a twist!! ... This doesn't mean the world is coming -to a earl=
y
end........relax.......Take a pill...
Bob

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 01:01:33 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: news

Your right Gavin.......He is getting scary........

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:51:18 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Note worthy

I thought some of you might be interested in this.
Last week while at the Ducati shop ,I ran into Chip (SLBMW)-
having Mark Cohan's Yellow K1200rs on the Dyno.
Turns out the k12 runs at 104 hp to the rear wheel,
not as much as many of us k1200 guy's had hoped
for. Chip explained that he (the shop)are going too
put a Remas sport pip on it ,and  wanted to see
the hp difference before and after.About a hour later
Chip/dip returned with a much sportier sounding bike-
not at all offensive.On to the Dyno it goes.
The results were very impressive, 3 to 4 hp increase
at midrange, and a full 10 hp overall . The pip is around =

7 to 8 lb. lighter ,so there's additional 1 hp. So fer a little
more than half the price of a staintune ," you get more
power"......erff......erff....erff..!

Gota have one!!

Bob

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:14:48 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

Bob: We should experiment with a d&d and my supertrapp on your K bike
Bring it out and I will break out the cutting torch.
Crit

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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 20:42:57 -0700
From: Gavin Wallace <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

The only other dyno test (at sea level) of the K1200RS that I read about
indicated 112-114 horse puppies at the wheel.  These numbers would be in
line with the difference in elevation.  Bob, you need to buy a new
accessory anyway.  It's been what? A week since your last purchase?  I'm
only guessing........

GAV

Jess Jensen wrote:

> I thought some of you might be interested in this.
> Last week while at the Ducati shop ,I ran into Chip (SLBMW)-
> having Mark Cohan's Yellow K1200rs on the Dyno.
> Turns out the k12 runs at 104 hp to the rear wheel,
> not as much as many of us k1200 guy's had hoped
> for. Chip explained that he (the shop)are going too
> put a Remas sport pip on it ,and  wanted to see
> the hp difference before and after.About a hour later
> Chip/dip returned with a much sportier sounding bike-
> not at all offensive.On to the Dyno it goes.
> The results were very impressive, 3 to 4 hp increase
> at midrange, and a full 10 hp overall . The pip is around
> 7 to 8 lb. lighter ,so there's additional 1 hp. So fer a little
> more than half the price of a staintune ," you get more
> power"......erff......erff....erff..!
>
> Gota have one!!
>
> Bob
>
> -




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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 20:45:45 -0700
From: Gavin Wallace <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

Which two cylinders are you going to remove?  Can you make it look as
ugly as a boxer?  If you make a mistake, put different handlebars on it
and call it Cruiser.

GAV

[e-mail] wrote:

> Bob: We should experiment with a d&d and my supertrapp on your K bike
> Bring it out and I will break out the cutting torch.
> Crit
>
> -




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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:11:08 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

Not sure if i want to dignify that Crit.

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:14:15 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

I don't keep track,or i would feel guilty......Gav.

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:18:13 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

I think you could call it a looser........Im sure Big D, would have a fue=

choice names for it.

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:20:40 -0700
From: "DeVern Gerber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

Yeeeeehhhaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwww!!
Bob and His Munificence in the garage with a cutting torch!!
Guaranteed to be a show in true Barnum tradition; can I handle the
ticket sales????

DeVern


On 3 Dec 98, at 22:14, [e-mail] wrote:

> Bob: We should experiment with a d&d and my supertrapp on your K bike
> Bring it out and I will break out the cutting torch. Crit
>
> -
>
>


DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]

1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant

'83 R80ST
'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:39:24 -0700
From: "DeVern Gerber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

Yeah, but Bob--that was a DUCATI dyno.  We all know that Italian
horsepower are smaller than German horsepower.  This is why the
Italians are always doing that swagger and machismo thing, to
make their horsepower seem larger.  If you want accurate numbers
 you need to truck your machine to a good GERMAN dyno and
make a few runs.  My guess is that they probably put Italian gas in
your machine, too, before performing the dyno runs, and of course
we all know what happens when you run Italian gas!.

DeVern

PS:  If you doubt my word on this you can prove it yourself.  Just
buy a good German dyno (you don't have one yet, do you??),
install it in your garage, and invite your friends to bring their two-
wheeled spaghetti stretchers over for a run.


On 3 Dec 98, at 21:51, Jess Jensen wrote:

> I thought some of you might be interested in this.
> Last week while at the Ducati shop ,I ran into Chip (SLBMW)-
> having Mark Cohan's Yellow K1200rs on the Dyno.
> Turns out the k12 runs at 104 hp to the rear wheel,
> not as much as many of us k1200 guy's had hoped
> for. Chip explained that he (the shop)are going too
> put a Remas sport pip on it ,and  wanted to see
> the hp difference before and after.About a hour later
> Chip/dip returned with a much sportier sounding bike-
> not at all offensive.On to the Dyno it goes.
> The results were very impressive, 3 to 4 hp increase
> at midrange, and a full 10 hp overall . The pip is around
> 7 to 8 lb. lighter ,so there's additional 1 hp. So fer a little
> more than half the price of a staintune ," you get more
> power"......erff......erff....erff..!
>
> Gota have one!!
>
> Bob
>
> -
>
>


DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]

1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant

'83 R80ST
'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:54:57 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

I think there will be a very special award for you this year  DeVern. The=

Snooze award..........YeeeHHaaa.

Robert

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:51:30 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Re: Note worthy

Bob,

I told you I can get you you a PT-6 turbine rated at 900 shaft hp.  ONly
weights 220 lbs. should fit in you frame.

Can you hang on?

Deav
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
To: INTERNET:[e-mail]
<[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 7:52 PM
Subject: BB: Note worthy


I thought some of you might be interested in this.
Last week while at the Ducati shop ,I ran into Chip (SLBMW)-
having Mark Cohan's Yellow K1200rs on the Dyno.
Turns out the k12 runs at 104 hp to the rear wheel,
not as much as many of us k1200 guy's had hoped
for. Chip explained that he (the shop)are going too
put a Remas sport pip on it ,and  wanted to see
the hp difference before and after.About a hour later
Chip/dip returned with a much sportier sounding bike-
not at all offensive.On to the Dyno it goes.
The results were very impressive, 3 to 4 hp increase
at midrange, and a full 10 hp overall . The pip is around
7 to 8 lb. lighter ,so there's additional 1 hp. So fer a little
more than half the price of a staintune ," you get more
power"......erff......erff....erff..!

Gota have one!!

Bob

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:54:26 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

Can I take out the insurance policy made payable to me?

Deav
- -----Original Message-----
From: DeVern Gerber <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy


Yeeeeehhhaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwww!!
Bob and His Munificence in the garage with a cutting torch!!
Guaranteed to be a show in true Barnum tradition; can I handle the
ticket sales????

DeVern


On 3 Dec 98, at 22:14, [e-mail] wrote:

> Bob: We should experiment with a d&d and my supertrapp on your K bike
> Bring it out and I will break out the cutting torch. Crit
>
> -
>
>


DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]

1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant

'83 R80ST
'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:46:30 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Re: Beemers Exciting??? was Ducati Myths

Though the list might like to see some of the things that are said on the=
 Ducati list.

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>BMW's are the most misunderstood,  underappreciated bikes I can think of=
.
>You need to come to some of the DOCC events and see the "old timers" com=
e
>to the track, take off their bags and tankbags,  tape up their lights an=
d
>mirrors amd then proceed to KICK ASS.

That doesn't make them exciting or fast.  It's the rider who's fast, or
crazy.  Just look at Reg Pridmore blow everyone away on VFR with a pillio=
n
on back.  You intimated it, they are bikes for "old timers" -- over-price=
d
and over-weight, but comfortable and fast enough for the individual who i=
s
not ready for that Gold Wing, yet can no longer stand the pain of a Ducat=
i
or considers a VFR slumming it.  I've owned BMW's (back in the mid-70's
when they were still the best handling and fastest bikes around) and don'=
t
think they are misunderstood.

Admittedly, Ducati's are overly-fast and over-sexed for my own good.  But=

they are too fun and give me a great workout when I ride in exchange for
some minor pain and stiffness the morning.  Much cheaper than a trophy wi=
fe
and she'll never ask me to start another family -- "honey, wouldn't you
like to have a little Monster running around."  Er, forget what I said
about kids.  Damn, maybe I should've gotten a BMW after all. Anyway,
remember it's all about two wheels, not what you ride.

Gotta go, gotta ride.
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:03:08 -0700
From: "DeVern Gerber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Re: Beemers Exciting??? was Ducati Myths

Hey, Bob-- those Duc guys are just pissed because BMW won't
lend an air of authenticity to the R1100S by embedding a dead fly
in the yellow paint....

DeVern

PS:  When do most Duc guys participate in motorcycle
discussions ??  Pick one:

A.  When they're waiting in line at the chiropracter's office.

B.  When they're waiting for the mechanic to remove the heads on
the Duc and adjust the clearances on the desmo works??

C.  When they meet at the shop on Saturdays to find out how
many more weeks they have to wait for their parts.

D.  While waiting in line at the insurance adjuster's office  (I recall
seeing a published insurance industry stat showing over 50% of
new Ducs are crashed in the first year of ownership)

The quiz is on...


On 4 Dec 98, at 18:46, Jess Jensen wrote:

> Though the list might like to see some of the things that are said on the
> Ducati list.
>

DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]

1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant

'83 R80ST
'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:25:20 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: BB: Note worthy

No Devern you can't I have a friend, female, Who is an executive in Salt Lake
with a ticket company, she rides a K100 RS.
Crit

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:00:22 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: Re: Beemers Exciting??? was Ducati Myths

Ok......Ok......Ok.......Big D.

A- is good

B- is Bad

C- Is about the same as Beamers.

D. The Ducati is one of the most desirable bikes on the road,best
looks,best performance.
      Put it all togather and you have a recipe for Squiddom.Plus -there
just simply inspiring!
      They make you want to ride faster.So....easy to see why, the higher=

crash rate......
       Alot of them end up crashing on race tracks.............."So
there"!!
       =

       DeVern: I have Right side & Left side Bike's.......Who could want
for more..........(.No flame please.)  =

       Good By.
        Bob
                                                                         =
  =

                Your mind=3DBMW
        =

                                                                         =
  =

                 Your mind on drugs =3DHarley

                                                                         =
  =

                 Your mind on a high=3DDucati =


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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:04:56 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: BB: Re: Beemers Exciting??? was Ducati Myths

There are two statutes in a Park, one is male and one is female and they have
been starring at each other for almost one hundred years. An angel comes by
and makes them alive and gives them 10 minutes to do anything they want. They
come back in 5 minutes and the angel says, don't you want the other 5 minutes
the male turns to the female and says, Ok, only this time you hold down the
pigeon, while I shit on it.

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Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 19:31:35 -0800
From: john beeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: No show at Christmas Party

Lila and I will not be able to make it over to the dinner next
Saturday.  The local high school has asked me to take the next two weeks
of classes for a math teacher. (quit with no notice).  Quit laughing Big
D.  So, we don't have enough time to make the trip.

    Just to let you know, the Chief Joseph has been moved to Klamath
Falls.  Same weekend ( third wknd June).  It will be on the OIT campus,
Oregon Institute of Tech.  There are some great rides from there. Crater
Lake is about an hour ride and there are other great rides in the
Cascades.

Anyway, sorry we won't get be there next Saturday.

John B
Sisters,or

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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:51:52 -0700
From: "DeVern Gerber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: No show at Christmas Party

On 6 Dec 98, at 19:31, john beeson wrote:

> Lila and I will not be able to make it over to the dinner next
> Saturday.  The local high school has asked me to take the next two weeks
> of classes for a math teacher. (quit with no notice).  Quit laughing Big
> D.  So, we don't have enough time to make the trip.

Laughing??  Hell, I'm tipping my hat in admiration.  One who finally
came to his senses-- not too many people get to pull off a job
change where they get a raise as well as reduce their blood
pressure and personal safety risks, all in one fell swoop.    :^)

Sorry you won't be able to make it, I was really looking forward to
seeing you and Lila again and kicking tires about the R80ST.
>
>     Just to let you know, the Chief Joseph has been moved to Klamath
> Falls.  Same weekend ( third wknd June).  It will be on the OIT campus,
> Oregon Institute of Tech.  There are some great rides from there. Crater
> Lake is about an hour ride and there are other great rides in the
> Cascades.

This is good news.  While I never attend the rally at Hepner, I know
that the roads around Hepner are great but the rally site left
something to be desired.  Only problem is, I'll bet the rally will once
again fall on the same weekend as the Utah 1088 and I'm already
committed to that.  Maybe in 2000...

>
> Anyway, sorry we won't get be there next Saturday.
>
> John B

You will be missed!

DeVern

DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]

1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant

'83 R80ST
'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)

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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 21:33:02 -0700
From: "Tom Deaver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Re: No show at Christmas Party

John,

Thanks for the  info about the party and Chief Joseph.   It'll be fun to run
Hiway 140 to the sea.

Tom Deaver

- -----Original Message-----
From: john beeson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, December 06, 1998 8:38 PM
Subject: BB: No show at Christmas Party


>Lila and I will not be able to make it over to the dinner next
>Saturday.  The local high school has asked me to take the next two weeks
>of classes for a math teacher. (quit with no notice).  Quit laughing Big
>D.  So, we don't have enough time to make the trip.
>
>    Just to let you know, the Chief Joseph has been moved to Klamath
>Falls.  Same weekend ( third wknd June).  It will be on the OIT campus,
>Oregon Institute of Tech.  There are some great rides from there. Crater
>Lake is about an hour ride and there are other great rides in the
>Cascades.
>
>Anyway, sorry we won't get be there next Saturday.
>
>John B
>Sisters,or
>
>-
>
>


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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:24:00 -0500
From: Jess Jensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: No show at Christmas Party

,I was hopeing you could keep Big D, company on the back row. I guess he'=
ll
have to sit alone now.
You'll be missed John, take care.

Bob

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:36:38 -0700
From: "DeVern Gerber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: BB: No show at Christmas Party

On 7 Dec 98, at 9:24, Jess Jensen wrote:

> ,I was hopeing you could keep Big D, company on the back row. I guess
> he'll have to sit alone now.

Yeah, Bobster-- in the seat right in front of yours!
:^)

DG



DeVern Gerber     [e-mail]

1997 Iron Butt Finisher, 1999 Iron Butt Entrant

'83 R80ST
'95 R1100RSL "Das Amsdel"  (Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell!)

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:27:49 -0700
From: "Thomas W. Kullen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BB: Park City Motorcycle Week

Donald Sanborn wrote:
>
> ALERT - - - - ALERT - - - -  ALERT  - - - - ALERT - - -  ALERT - - -  ALERT
>
> WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
>
> WHEN:   THURSDAY DEC 10th AT 5:30 PM
>
> WHERE:  CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS MARSAC BUILDING, 445 MARSAC AVE,  FIRST FLOOR
>
> The Park City Council will be voting on the Festival License for the Park
> City Motorcycle Week to be held on Sept 16 - 19, 1999.  We need a strong
> show of support from our Club at the City Council meeting Thursday December
> 10th. It is important that we show up at the Council Chambers IN NUMBERS.
> If the application is approved it will be a big boost for the hotel,
> restaurants and retail merchants of Park City on what would otherwise be a
> slow September weekend. In addition several local charities will directly
> benefit from the event.  On top of all of these benefits to our resort
> community it will be a fun event that will be long remembered by all.
>
> It would also be very helpful if you have a chance before the Thursday
> meeting to call the following City Council members and personally state
> your support for the event:
>
> Shauna Kerr         Off   658 1818   Home 649 6718
> Hugh Daniels        Off   645 3931   Home 645 8187
> Chuck Kleinstein   Off   649 3368   Home 649 1057
>
> Donald R. Sanborn 3084 American Saddler, Park City, UT 84060
> Office Phone [phone]  Home 435-655-0760 Fax [phone]
> Email: [e-mail]


  It would be helpful if you guys could call the council people
on the list and tell them they should vote for Park City Motorcycle
Week.  A strong positive input will finally put one of the premier
motorcycle events in the country right in your home state. If you call
and get the councilpersons answering machine, just leave a message
supporting the event-you do not need to mention that you do not live in
Park City if that is the case-just your name. All three coucil members
should be called.

   The event will include AHRMA Vintage Roadraces, Motorcross, Trials,
in Park City and Flat Track in Heber. A Concours and demo rides from
various motorcycle manufacturers and parts & accessory mnfrs. will also
be included. Any questions, give me a call: 435.649.7169 or check the
website at www.parkcitymotorcycle.com

Cheers,

Tom Kullen

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