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bagpipe-digest       Saturday, November 20 1999       Volume 01 : Number 192




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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 05:51:56 GMT
From: John and/or Lori Gaudet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Bands near Sudbury

Ackkkkkk A Comedian!! ;-))
guess you don't know anyone up that way Robbie, but saw an opportunity to get a
laugh in! ;-))
Lori

Robbie wrote:

> John and/or Lori Gaudet wrote in message <[e-mail]>...
> >Hi everyone,
> >I have a friend here in Saint John, NB who is an excellent bass drummer
> >who is looking for a band to play with in or around Sudbury Ontario. If
> >you know of any bands in that area who would be interested in
> >him...
>
> Long commute to play bass drum!
>
> Robbie


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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:11:28 -0800
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Fabric weights

The weight of the cloth is based on full-width (54", 56", or 58", depending
on the maker) REGARDLESS of the width - so 28" handwoven cloth weight is
based on a double-width. 1 yard of 16 oz cloth 28" wide, weighing 8 ounces,
is 16 ounce cloth...do the math.

Most commercial kilts are made from 12-14 ounce cloth, and are made from 4
yards of double width worsted split and seamed in a pleat - look for it
about halfway across the seat, inside.

The best made, best quality kilts are made from 17 ounce, handwoven worsted,
single width This cloth is usually referred to as 'Strome.' There should be
no seam in a pleat in a 'handwoven' kilt. If there is, you've been had...

If you want a really well made 7 yard  kilt, get a military kilt made from
20 ounce 'Cheviot,' if you can find it.

Tartan does not come in 'ell' width. An 'ell' is the length from your elbow
to your index fingertip - about 18".

IS
Steven Akins <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:IW2X3.184$[e-mail]...
>
> Bob Cameron wrote in message <[e-mail]>...
> >If I remember correctly, tartan comes in two widths: an ell,(39 inches)
and
> 54
> >inches.
> > If the weight is reckoned by the running yard,  then  we nwould have two
> >different "weights" for cloth of the same density. - one yard being 36x39
> >inches, (1404 sq.inches), the other 36x 54 inches (1944 sq.in).   Given
the
> >above, let's assume weights are per square yard(1296sq inches)  Your
> sample,
> >10.5x70  would be 735  sq. inches.  a square yard would be  about 1.763
> times
> >as large as your sample, so a sq yard of your weave would weigh about
9.68
> >ounces. - roughly a 10 ounce weight.
>
>
> I'm no expert on weaving, but I think I might be able to make a correction
> here. Tartan fabric does indeed come in two widths, but these are 54"
> (double-width) and 27" (single-width). 16oz. fabric weighs 16oz. per
linear
> yard, 13oz. weighs 13oz. per linear yard and so on. I have a kilt made
from
> 8 yards of 16oz. fabric, and it weighs not quite 4 pounds, as it is
slightly
> less than single-width material in length, therefore, I would assume that
> the 16oz. weight is taken from the double-width (54") yardage. Hope this
> helps.
>
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:12:47 -0900
From: Michael New & Diane Rossmiller <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting the Tone: Observations

Zudupiper wrote:

> >Just a point about you drone/chanter balance observations. Those
> >aren't going to be very viable in this format. Unless you're playing
> >them back through about 100 watts per channel with 15" woofers that
> >is, and even then, it's all going to come down to how you personally
> >choose to EQ your playback
>
> Huh?
>
> I don't have anything sophisticated at all.  I just downloaded the files into
> my computer and playe them through the speakers.
>
> I kept the volume and balance the same for  everything.  Maybe it's just my
> speakers.  Maybe it's my ears.
>
> Are we supposed to go to the trouble of optimizing the playback of each file?
>
> I don't think there's much I can say about the tone of any of the samples, at
> least the way I heard them.  If I had to vote for best tone, I'd only be able
> to vote for what I heard, and if I couldn't hear drones on a particular file, I
> wouldn't vote for that one.
>
> Based on that criteria, the only files I'd consider would be 3,5,7,8,9,and 12.
> On the others, there's no drone sound or it's faint.
>
> Zu

Zu,

Go ahead and download Winamp.  It's not a big deal, and it has a built-in
equalizer.  Just click the EQ button to open the equalizer, and slide the volume
controls on the left hand side up to maximize the drones.  Most of the files can be
optiomized this way to enable you to get a good idea of what the drones sound
like.  The other advantage of Winamp is that you can download the files to your
computer and create playlists which will play all or some of the samples in
sequence.

It's cool.  It's easy.  It's got cool blinkinlights.  It's not a lot of work at
all, and I figure that if someone went to the trouble of recording and submitting a
sample, we should probably be willing to put in the small amount of effort required
to honestly evaluate their file.

Cheers,

Michael



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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:25:46 GMT
From: Bill Carr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting The Tone

I'll just give my vote on the top 6.

This is based solely on my own taste and probably has nothing to do with
what rally counts as good tone.

First Place goes to #12 "March of King Lewis"
Just listen to the interaction between the drones and chanter here. Each
note pulls out a different overtone or harmonic from the drones. To me, the
drones are not just a background tone to the chanter but they are intricate
part of the "presence, wholeness" bagpipe sound. This set up is heading down
that road. Why......it's almost as good as the pipes on "Tape for the COP
Tutor book #1" (seriously!). Chanter is at a lower pitch which appeals to
me. Chanter could have been a bit crisper.

Seconds place goes to #8 Shoshana's. Ditto as above, only less so.

Third place to #11 MacGreggor. Much the same reasons as above. Possibly
recorded too close to the mike thus creating a "hard" tone.

Forth place to #13 STB. Again, perhaps too close to the mike but if you
adjust the equalizer in Winamp you can hear some of  same qualities as
above. High G a bit out for my taste.

Fifth place to #6 Leprechaun. Beautiful chanter but I though the overall
tone was a bit hollow. Drones and chanter somewhat detached from each other.

Sixth place to #14 Hag at the Churn. Nice tone without the harmonics and
over tones. There was something about the chanter that didn't tickle me
fancy though. Too sharp?


To Zu, Chris and Arthur........Shhhhhhh.......  :-)  It's all in fun, right?




Bill Carr





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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:35:03 GMT
From: Bill Carr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Ivory Hendersons on Ebay

STOP! STOP! STOP!

I posted the wrong link on this.

It should have been

 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=198937381


My fault...Sorry.


Bill Carr


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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:10:15 GMT
From: oshpiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: 1999 GS McLennan Competition results

In article <80lsf1$taf$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> 1999 G. S. McLennan Invitational Piping Competition
>
> Unofficial results:

Do you know who won the "Bagpipe Tune Writing Contest"?

Pat


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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:30:07 GMT
From: oshpiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Shawn Husk <[e-mail]> wrote:

> oshpiper wrote:
...
> > Because, synthetics generally tend to be "not as" susceptible to
minute
> > differences in blowing pressure as cane drone reeds tend to be.
> >
>
> I have to disagree, cane has always been more stable for me
> than any synthetic drone reed I've tried.
>
> Shawn

I won't doubt your experiences.  If a synthetic drone reed is set-up
properly, I think you may change your mind on this one.

Pat


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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:00:59 GMT
From: "Ron Bowen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Meaning of Flett from Flotta

Learned further that Alex had been PS under Donald MacLeod while in the
Seaforth Highlanders.  Unable to confirm relationship between Alex and
Flett.
Ron Bowen <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:6H3X3.48367$[e-mail]...
> The late PM Alex Robertson (Highland House PB, Highland Fusiliers of
Canada)
> claimed that the tune was written for a relative of his.  I'll try to find
> out a few more details this weekend at the gathering.  (PPBSO AGM and
> Highland Ball)
> Ringo
> <[e-mail]> wrote in message
> news:80hk22$1pn$[e-mail]...
> > Does anyone have any information about Flett from Flotta?
> > What does the title mean?
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:00:00 +0100
From: "Leslie Thomson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) RE: Hevia' Electronic Pipes?

Hola Jose,

The fact is that you may be right about the URL but it's is not my fault,
Hevia in PERSON gave it to me at one of his concerts.
The story is that I was there with some friends of mine from a Gibraltar
Band, after the concert I managed to talk to him and was very interested
about the Band, tha is when HE gave me that URL. But as I see both URLs are
equally useless ;-)

BTW the concert was at Tivoli World in Benalmßdena (where I live); Jose, if
you ever come to the Costa del Sol give me a call.

Cheers,
Leslie
>
> > He's got a website http://www.versionmidi.com/
>
> I'm sorry but I think that that URL is unrelated to Hevia's
> bagpipe. The correct one is:
>
> http://welcome.to/versionmidi
>




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Date: 14 Nov 1999 18:42:05 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Playing from winamp

> The
>rack display shows tunes 1-15 not listed individually but as a group, they
>must be in there somewhere??
>
>Any offer gratefully accepted
>

John,
On my player I must go to the weird symbol ( looks like this "<><>" without the
quotes) in the upper left hand corner and click on it, the pull down menu
offers a "play file" option, I click on that and it automatically found the
downloaded files for me, then I dbl clicked on the one I wanted to hear.
Hope it helps!
Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.


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Date: 14 Nov 1999 19:10:23 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review

>Why not? is it a national secret,If I'm interested in a product and I'm
>going to put any kind of money into it I'm going to want to know if anyone
>else is using it and any testimonials that may accompany it,good or bad.

Because he's listed them about 5 dozen times, and public testimonials are
generally a pay-for type thing. You won't  hear Burt Reynolds plugging his
favorite wigmaker unless he's compensated, why should an open player come on
here and say anything, much less an opinion he knows will only generate
hostilities. Try private emails, I did before I bought our pipes.


>i'm buying a GM product and I ask "did John Smith buy one?" and the answer
>is "I can't tell you that ,it's a secret." or "we've sold alot of these but
>we can't tell you to whom." I'll walk out the door and  but a ford.

Why? Do you think Ford will tell you? I mean Ford will only tell you the same
thing. Besides, Fords are junks LOL!

> I and we
>have a right a a consumer to know if "A" product is being sold to reputable
>people or even complete strangers.

No way! Your saying a company should turn over their customer list to you
before you buy. That's not practical or realistic.

> If I bought everything that someone said "Trust me,just
>buy it...You'll like it." I'd be broke and have alot of crap in my house.

Then make sure you have thirty days to look over, play, listen to, and just
check out before you send your money. A confident dealer would (two did in
fact) offered to send them up front to me just to check out first before
sending cash. There's absolutely no risk even if you send money first, a
guarantee IS a guarantee from a reputable company.

Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
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Date: 14 Nov 1999 19:20:00 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting The Tone

>Myself, I tried to ignore the actual tune played and quality of the playing
>and just
>focus on the tone.  Admittedly easier said than done considering the wide
>range of talent in the players.

I thought the whole point of this was (and everyone agreed?) the tone, and
there'd be no critisizing the quality of the playing? Comments like "Get a new
instructor, it's worth the 50$" are very rude, and I thought were not supposed
to occur.
REF, REF??? We need a referee here!
Bill
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Date: 14 Nov 1999 19:27:14 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review

>Then make sure you have thirty days to look over, play, listen to, and just
>check out before you send your money. A confident dealer would (two did in
>fact) offered to s

I meant pipes BTW, not reeds.
Bill
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:30:00 -0800
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Results, Angus MacDonald Competition, San Diego

FULL RESULTS?
<[e-mail]> wrote in message news:80l219$bpu$[e-mail]...
>
>
> Here's the *unofficial* results of the first
> Angus MacDonald Competition in San Diego, Nov. 12, 1999:
>
> Grade 1:
>
> Piobaireachd:
> 1. Decker Forrest, "McDougall's Gathering"
> 2. Dr. Ian Grahame, "Lament for the Old Sword"
> 3. Larry Samuels, "Scarce of Fishing"
>
> MSR:
> 1. Decker Forrest
> 2. Jeff Henderson
> 3. Dr. Ian Grahame
>
> Overall: Decker Forrest
>
>
> ###################
> Open
>
> Piobaireachd:
> 1. Ian Whitelaw, "Battle of Auldearn #1"
> 2. Glen Thompson, "Lament for Patrick Og MacCrimmon"
>
> MSR:
> 1. Ian Whitelaw
> 2. John Partenan
> 3. Glen Thompson
>
> Overall: Ian Whitelaw
>
>
>
> #########
> PS: I'll post the GS McLennan results ASAP Sunday morning.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:30:18 -0800
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: 1999 GS McLennan Competition results

FULL RESULTS?
<[e-mail]> wrote in message news:80lsf1$taf$[e-mail]...
>
>
> 1999 G. S. McLennan Invitational Piping Competition
>
> Unofficial results:
>
> Piobaireachd:
> 1. Willie McCallum - The Big Spree
> 2. Bill Livingstone - Lament for the Children
> 3. Roddy MacLeod - Old Man of the Shells, #1
>
> MSR:
> 1. Alasdair Gillies
> 2. Roddy MacLeod
> 3. Willie McCallum
>
>
> Overall:
> 1. Willie McCallum
> 2. Roddy MacLeod
> 3. Alasdair Gillies
>
> Fine competition; some really lovely music.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:45:53 -0900
From: Michael New & Diane Rossmiller <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Playing from winamp

JOHN BROADWELL wrote:

> I've downloaded WinAmp, got the 15 tunes downloaded, but cannot get them to
> play. Press play and nothing, sound is up and working as the demo is fine
> and I can play that at will, but it's not what I want to hear!!  HELP??
> Please??
>
> Thanks
>
> Slainte
>
> John B

John,

In the extreme upper left hand corner of the Winamp player is a little symbol
kind of like an angular infinity symbol.  Click on that to open the file menu.

To play one file at a time, just click on Play File...then select the
appropriate file, and away you go.

To play files in sequence, open the file menu, then click Playlist Editor.  A
window opens with a blank black screen area and two buttons at the bottom:  Add

and Remove.  Click the Add button, add one or more files (add more than one by
selecting the first and last files of the series while holding down the Shift
key, or individual files while holding the Control key).  You can also add
files to the playlist by opening Windows Explorer to the appropriate folder and

clicking and dragging the sound files onto the playlist window.

Click Save Playlist As...give the playlist a name - and open the playlist name
next time you want to hear the files by clicking Play File...and then selecting

the playlist.

And Bob's your Uncle.

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Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:25:30 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: PAID PIPERS!!!

>It really miffs me,
>when I sweat for weeks preparing for a comeptition, only to have the judge
>comment something to the effect of "nice drones, well balanced pipe, nice
>expression............etc." and not WIN!

What grade are we talking here?

>I have had adjudications that could
>fit on the head of a pin!

Me too.

>So I guess my
>point is, *some* judges need to understand that they need to reflect more
>fully, and echo on paper, the value of the performances they hear.

You're not gonna change any judge's style of writing sheets.  Some judges are
known for giving a good, comprehensive sheet with both good and bad points
noted.  Others, like you say, write almost nothing.  Others just note the
mistakes.  Depends on the judge.

Zu

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Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:33:03 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review

>I have to disagree, cane has always been more stable for me
>than any synthetic drone reed I've tried.

Hmmm.  When I played cane, I found cane to be more forgiving of slightly
unsteady blowing.  When I switched to synthetics, it was a tough couple of
weeks while I learned to blow to them.  They react a little different than
cane.

For an equivalent strength setup, I found myself blowing one of the drones out
when I was playing synthetics, but not when I was playing cane.  So for me, I
found cane more forgiving.  Once my blowing got steadier, the problem was moot
and synthetics are fine.

Zu

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Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:46:18 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting the Tone: Observations

Okay, where can I get Winamp?

Thanks,

Zu

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Date: 14 Nov 1999 22:28:55 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting The Tone

>Well, the season's over, but I guess I can dig up my whistle and give the
>offended party an indirect free kick...
>

You get to kick em if they don't do well? Kewl!
Bill
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Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:55:21 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Sabotage in Ocala! (long!)

>But one said . . . GREAT EFFORT!!!! and the other . . .. GOOD SPORT!!!

Those are comments one doesn't hear every day!  You go, girl!

>OH! ZU! I met Pete! What a sweetie! I let him play Angus. You are going  a
>great job with him! It was great how me met, the poor thing! He was looking
>over some things in one of the tents . . . and I noticed the "If you can't
>say it . . " shirt! I pulled on his shirt, he turned and I said "WHO ARE
>YOU?!?!?"

LMAO!

>Scared the poor boy to death! I made DH turn around with
>his "I'm married to a piper . . . " shirt. The young fellow said, "My
>teacher makes those shirts". "Then you are PETE!!!"

I'll be getting his side of the story next Sunday at our next lesson.  It's
VERY cool that you 2 managed to meet!

>We spent a lot of time
>together and really enjoyed the day. Fine young man!

Yeah, he's a good kid.  Good sense of humor too!  Wonder how many of my secrets
you know now....?

He was bringing his pipes (the Krons with the Zu reeds in them) to Fla but
probably not to the games....

And the ironic thing is, I met you in the first place because Peter was going
to move to Fla and needed a teacher there.  His folks did, but he stayed here.
And the bum gets to meet you before I do!  Grrrrrr!

Glad your first time's over....

er,well, you know what I mean

Zu

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Date: 14 Nov 1999 22:55:34 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bob Dunsire)
Subject: (bagpipe) Setting the Tone - Observations

Greetings all,

I should be answering email.. but noooo, I end up playing the Tone sound files
for daughter Alison (ohh.. should I say she is now Pipe Major Alison? yep!)..
to see what she hears (huh?  you know what I mean.. I hope).

I believe that players of higher skill (than I) also have much more finely
tuned / knowledgeable ears than mine - and I find their observations to be
really interesting..  I have a great deal of fun learing things about sound and
piping from my 15 year old daughter (is that cool or what?), and in the spirit
ot sharing this fun I write this.  No harm is intended...

I was not expecting much in the way of observations, because  the recording
quality, the mics used for recording, and the speakers used for playback all
limit the sound reproduction.. but.. having written that, I was surprised at
the comments / observations of daughter Alison.. so.. with no further doo:

1) quite good, one of her favorites.  e is a bit sharp, chanter sound a bit
weak.

2) bottom hand flat, interesting D throw, not too sweet a sound

3) too sharp, really sharp on high notes, unsteady drones

4) good recording, could be sweeter, unsteady drones, dull low hand

5) e too sharp for chanter, chanter sharp overall, weak (easy) reed, needs a
poke

6) nice high g, another of her favorites, drones not quite in, really nice
chanter

7) drones not in, d,e,f sharp, unbalanced chanter

8) weak sound, peapee (I don't know how to spell that), sharp

9) flat e, sharp high a, g, unbalanced

10) well balanced, another favorite, a band like sound, bit flat, big sound.

11) d,e,b, sharp for chanter, but chanter is flat. nice high a

12) f, g, a  sharp, rest of chanter weak

13) d sharp maybe, another favorite, makes other chanters sound flat, a sweet
sound

14) strange stuff, can't really tell about chanter

15) high a sharp, d sharp.

Her favorites were 1,6,10,13.

I hope the comments like peepee, needs a poke and sweet are understood?
- -peepee - older weak reeds sound like this
- - poke - from reed manipulation tool, long & tapered (handmade) to change the
sound (and strength) of the reed, from a poke to  the inside
- - sweet - the sound she searches for in a solo setup.. you'll know it when you
hear it in person.

BTW - I am curious as to how many 'ringers' sent in sound files -  I look
forward to learning more of the details.

Bob D.

(having too much fun with web pages, including:
http://members.aol.com/bdunsire
http://members.aol.com/bagpipeweb (Bagpipe Web Directory - 1000+ links)
http://www.user.dccnet.com/bcpipers/index.htm (BC Pipers' Association))

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Date: 14 Nov 1999 22:30:21 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting the Tone: Observations

>Okay, where can I get Winamp?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Zu

At "www.winamp.com" of course! ;?)~
Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.


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Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:39:51 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Judging Sheets...

>Does
>anyone else keep their sheets?
>

I do, but I don't look back at them after the season's over usually.

It's interesting to see the way the comments progressed from early season to
late season, as I got better at playing the tunes.

It's probably worthwhile to keep them.  One of my students is going to start
competing next year and I want to show him some of my old sheets....and explain
the difference between a winning sheet and a non-winning sheet.

It's also instructive to look at the differences in the problem areas noted on
a bad grade 4 sheet, a good grade 4 sheet, a bad grade 3 sheet and a good grade
3 sheet.  You can draw a lot of conclusions from that.

Zu

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Date: 14 Nov 1999 22:31:38 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Judging Sheets...

>>Does
>>anyone else keep their sheets?
>>

Well it depends how often I launder them, but I usually get a year or two out
of them.
Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.


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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:37:04 -0800
From: "Todd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting The Tone

Michael New & Diane Rossmiller <[e-mail]> wrote in message

> Todd wrote:
> > We must keep the overall lack of validity of the experiment fully
> > in mind.
>
> In order to arrive at meaningful conclusions? <g>  This is one of my all
time
> fave quotes from rmmb!


No!  In order to *NOT* arrive at too strong of a conclusion.  (But I'm glad
you liked it).

Cheers
Todd





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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:34:52 GMT
From: "Ron Bowen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review

Shawn, my preference is cane, however setting them up properly is as much an
art as it is a science.  Only so much can be taught, the rest must be
learned through experience, patience, and a whole lotta trial and error.
Not everybody can do it.

With bands, synthetics remove a multitude of variables, making overall
set-up much quicker, easier, and the sound much more uniform throughout.
Also, the synthetics change less throughout a performance, especially given
the swings in playing conditions that we can experience.  I have a video of
the worlds where NRP warmed up in sunshine and played in a downpour.  The
drones were solid throughout and I don't think that any were lost along the
way.  We also played Ross bags, which no doubt helped, however I still don't
believe we would have pulled it off playing cane.

Great comments by all.
Ringo
Shawn Husk <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:[e-mail]...
> oshpiper wrote:
>
> > Good post, but I might add:
> > Because, synthetics generally tend to be "not as" susceptible to minute
> > differences in blowing pressure as cane drone reeds tend to be.
> >
>
> I have to disagree, cane has always been more stable for me
> than any synthetic drone reed I've tried.
>
> Shawn
>



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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:30:44 -0900
From: Michael New & Diane Rossmiller <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting the Tone: Observations

Zudupiper wrote:

> Okay, where can I get Winamp?

Zu,

Good man yerself!

Go to :

        http://www.winamp.com/

to download the winamp player.

Cheers,

Michael



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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:04:41 -0900
From: Michael New & Diane Rossmiller <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Thanks Bill & Chris!!

JOHN BROADWELL wrote:

> I've tried both of those things, neither works, and I've checked temp.
> internet files and tunes1-15 are there, so why it cannot find them or bring
> them up I have no idea :-( However, I have heard all the tunes :-)
> as I downloaded them one at a time as I was quite determined to HEAR them,
> if nothing else. I'll have a play around and see what I can find in the
> meantime. Any other Ideas gratefully received??
>
> Many thanks
>
> John B.

John,

Why don't you download the files again to a new folder (i.e. create a folder
called tone
on your C drive, and download all the files to the new folder)?  Perhaps the
problem is
in trying to access the files from the temp folder.  Bear in mind that wherever
you put
the files, they need to stay there to be accessible to winamp each time it
plays the file,
and when you clear your temp folder you'll no longer be able to hear the files
unless you
moved them elsewhere.  I downloaded the files and put them on a Zip disc to
avoid
using precious hard drive resources.  Have you tried opening the playlist
editor in
Winamp and dragging the files from the temp folder onto the playlist window as
I
suggested?  Do that, and then save the playlist using the Save Playlist As
command as
per my last post.  Bear in mind that the playlist file is just that - a list,
it doesn't contain
the sound files themselves.  You have to keep the sound files on your hard
drive (or zip
drive) to be able to repeatedly access them.  Have you tried using the Winamp
file
menu at all?

If this doesn't work, you'll have to download the sound files to another folder
and save
them there, then proceed with the Winamp playlist editor etc.

Okay, here is the blow by blow description:

    1.  Open Winamp.

    2.  Click on the symbol in the upper left hand corner of the Winamp player.

    3.  Select Playlist Editor

    4.  Open Windows Explorer

    5.  Open the folder containing your sound files.  Make sure they're
actually there if
you've got them in the temp file.  In fact, if you have got them in the temp
file, move
them to another folder for permanent storage.

    6.  Click the Winamp box at the bottom of the screen (on the taskbar) so
that you
can see the playlist editor window and the windows Explorer window.

    7.  Select all the sound files and drag them on to the Playlist Editor
window.
Alternatively, you can just open the Playlist Editor window and select all the
sound files
using the Add button.

    8.  Select Save Playlist As...and save the playlist using whatever name you
like in the
same folder a the sound files.

    9.  At this point, you should just be able to click the play button on the
Winamp
player.  If not, select Play File from the Winamp file menu and browse to the
folder
containing the playlist and sound files, select the playlist file, and then hit
the forward
(play) button on the Winamp player.

Michael




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Date: 15 Nov 1999 01:33:17 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) High 5 and Reed Pinching

The fun part first.

I piped at the Ocean State Marathon like I have the last several years.  Very
well received, and many runners expressed delight at hearing the pipes (lots of
thumbs-ups etc).  One guy came running by with arm extended for a high-5, and I
obliged him in mid-tune!  Funny!

Another runner came out of the race long enough to pose with me while her
friend (another runner) snapped a photo.

Reed pinching:  Here's the piping content.  This is an atypical gig, in that
I'm playing almost continually (continuously) for a little over an hour.  I get
huge rations of crap from the runnners anytime I stop.  Anyhow, it's not really
cold, I'd say in the high-40's, into the 50s by the time I finished.  I'm
playing my plastic pipes.

I decided to take a different approach to maintaining my tuning this time.  In
previous years I've played and played, and gradually my pipes got harder and
harder as the chanter reed got flatter and finally drones started shutting off.
This time I played long enough to get into pretty good tuning, and then when I
noticed the chanter drifting noticeably from the drones (usually accompanied by
small chokes), I stopped and pinched the reed a bit.  Solved both problems at
the same time...eased up the reed so the chokes went away, and restored the
brighter pitch.  I guess I did this about every 10-15 minutes.  Twice I
disassembled the drones and blew out the reeds, and emptied the watertrap 3
times I think.

I wouldn't necessarily want to do this to a great chanter reed because it
probably takes some of the life out of it, but it seemed to work really well
this time.

Still chuckling about the high five.

Zu

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