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bagpipe-digest        Monday, November 1 1999        Volume 01 : Number 174




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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:29:21 -0500
From: Chris Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:23:46 -0400, "JOHN MITCHELL"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>JOHN MITCHELL <[e-mail]> wrote in message
>>
>> Well we tested it next to a Sinclair chanter and
>> found that it was........
>
>... not what the Vendor claimed it to be!

Hmm, thanks for the info, John.  I tried one out, VERY briefly, less
than 15 minutes, in Oklahoma, so I can only comment very generally.

Volume:  It WAS noticeably louder than my band Shepherd, with the same
reeds.  1.5 times louder?  Well, I don't know.

Tone:  Good, I got the pitch up to 475 with the reed cranked way in.
I'm afraid that was higher than designed to play, though and many
reeds you probably couldn't get it up there.

Balance: Several reeds I tried would have needed extreme taping on the
top hand to even get in the ballpark. One was not bad and was pretty
true.

Feel:  Excellent. Great finger spacing and a comfortable fit and
finger response.

Overall:  I'd need to play it a LOT more to make any kind of judgment
/ recommendation.

Keep working ... Rome wasn't built in a day.

Chris
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:49:46 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Manly-ometer

On 31 Oct 1999 01:06:28 GMT, [e-mail] (Zudupiper) wrote:

>> Chris, on the other hand, had been playing his reeds fro
>>months, and they sounded great.
>
>Chris (Chanter Cap) Hamilton.  He's a chanter cap fanatic!  He finally
>converted me to his way of thinking.

Wow, a nickname!  Like I invented the thing!  Well, I didn't invent
chanter caps, only Post-Its ...

It's been berra-berra good to me.

Chris (capping that rascal since 1985) ...
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Date: 31 Oct 1999 23:33:57 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scraping Gilmour reeds

> Say it ain't so,
>> Bill...are Gilmours ridge-cuts?
>>
>> Zu
>
>Nope.

Glad to hear it!  Is that technique something that Mike Gilmour specifically
recommends?

Zu

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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:58:48 -0000
From: "lsrapm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Glenfiddich Comp.

Some of yesterday's results from Blair Atholl.
I can't remember them all..

OVERALL
1. Willie MacCallum
2. Angus MacColl
3. Naill Matheson

PIOBAIREACHD
1. Willie MacCallum
2. ....
3. ....

M/S/R
1. Gordon Walker
2. ....
3. ....

Chris Eyre



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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:14:43 -0000
From: "lsrapm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Help with mic set up?

Zudupiper <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:[e-mail]...
> >Make the recording with a portable cassette and transfer to
> >eht computer.
>
> I second that.  Make the tape, then put the headset-type mic right up
against
> the tape speaker.  Play it back at VERY low volume (maybe 1 or 2 on a
scale of
> 10).  Seemed to work for me.
>
> Zu

I've done this in the past with very good results.

Chris Eyre



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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:33:36 GMT
From: Bill Carr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scraping Gilmour reeds

Zudupiper wrote:

> Those directions sound like standard directions for shaving *ridge-cut* reeds,
> I note with some alarm.  I've sworn off ridge-cuts.  Say it ain't so,
> Bill...are Gilmours ridge-cuts?
>
> Zu

Nope.

BC



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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:54:16 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Manly-ometer

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:02:41 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

> ...  Watching Chris work on his pipes this weekend was
>interesting, because on the manometer, he was playing only a slightly
>harder solo reed than I was- yet his chanter was much brighter and
>louder than mine.  I don't know what you're playing, but my current
>solo chanter is about a 32 on the old manometer, his was about 36.  I
>guess mine was somewhere near the low-mid range of medium, while his
>was a little closer to the high end of medium.  But here were the
>differences in his pipes and my pipes (maintenance wise)

Ah, but Alex your pipes did sound quite good ... you're definitely on
the right track!

>a.) He was playing a canmore bag with a corregated (sp?) water trap,
>while I was playing a hide bag with a plain water trap.  One of my
>experiences with chanter reeds is that I'll find one with great bright
>tone and lots of volume that after a little bit of shaving still sounds
>good.  But after a month of playing (I play everyday for about half an
>hour on the pipes) its lost a lot of the volume and is starting to get
>pretty dull.  Chris, on the other hand, had been playing his reeds fro
>months, and they sounded great.  His set up kept his reed just a little
>dryer than mine, and that made a big difference.

My band chanter reed is nigh on 10 months old, the solo reeds were
about a month or so, the band backup reed well over 1.5 years.

>b.) the obvious difference between our reeds... his was just a little
>stiffer.  I think that just having that little bit of extra cane can
>make the difference in having a consitently big sound... I know what
>you're thinking... how can you maintain the expression with the harder
>reed?  I think the answer lies not in just waiting for yourself to get
>stronger, but rather in really making sure your pipes are as air tight
>as humanly possible.  I mean one little thing, a narrower than
>neccesary blowpipe, one leaky joint, a bag leaking just a tiny bit can
>suck as much air as a 4th drone.

Nancy Tunnicliffe has a great article on bag maintenance in the new
VOICE ... recommended reading for everyone!

Chris
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Date: 31 Oct 1999 23:43:36 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Regimential Kilts

>Are Regimential Kilts laid out like civilian kilts? Same placement
>of pleats ,same number of pleats , same backing, placement of tabs and
>buckles
>also the same depth of pleat assuming same material.

Regimental kilts are pleated to the stripe, not the sett.  Some have different
kinds of pleats, like box pleats.  Before about WW2 (I think) reg kilts didn't
have buckles, but fastened with pins.  Reg kilts also tend to have a higher
rise than civ kilts,. and are usually VERY heavy weight.

Zu


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Date: 31 Oct 1999 00:45:48 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Plastic Warmac vs Kron AB chanter

>ZU your not a band guy, or a solo guy,
>but you are a Nice guy!
>

Awwww....(blush)  I bet you say that to all the guys!

And I don't look too bad in a kilt either.

Zu

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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:29:21 -0500
From: Chris Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:23:46 -0400, "JOHN MITCHELL"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>JOHN MITCHELL <[e-mail]> wrote in message
>>
>> Well we tested it next to a Sinclair chanter and
>> found that it was........
>
>... not what the Vendor claimed it to be!

Hmm, thanks for the info, John.  I tried one out, VERY briefly, less
than 15 minutes, in Oklahoma, so I can only comment very generally.

Volume:  It WAS noticeably louder than my band Shepherd, with the same
reeds.  1.5 times louder?  Well, I don't know.

Tone:  Good, I got the pitch up to 475 with the reed cranked way in.
I'm afraid that was higher than designed to play, though and many
reeds you probably couldn't get it up there.

Balance: Several reeds I tried would have needed extreme taping on the
top hand to even get in the ballpark. One was not bad and was pretty
true.

Feel:  Excellent. Great finger spacing and a comfortable fit and
finger response.

Overall:  I'd need to play it a LOT more to make any kind of judgment
/ recommendation.

Keep working ... Rome wasn't built in a day.

Chris
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 04:33:27 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Binious Jig

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:00:55 -0800, "Don Robertson"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi All, Ok, here's one for the tune historians. I have this tune, Binious
>Jig, Ok, so I go to the dictionary to find out what "Binious" is, are, is at
>etc. Nothing.
>WHAT THE HELL IS "BINIOUS" !!!!?????!!!!

French bagpipe.

Royce

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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:58:48 -0000
From: "lsrapm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Glenfiddich Comp.

Some of yesterday's results from Blair Atholl.
I can't remember them all..

OVERALL
1. Willie MacCallum
2. Angus MacColl
3. Naill Matheson

PIOBAIREACHD
1. Willie MacCallum
2. ....
3. ....

M/S/R
1. Gordon Walker
2. ....
3. ....

Chris Eyre



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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:30:37 GMT
From: "Tim Sullivan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review

JOHN MITCHELL <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:[e-mail]...
> Well had a chance to go over the river and visit Ian Donaldon   ( you
know,
> the famous P/S of the the 78th Frasers!)    at the British Shop.
>
> While there, I had the opportunity to try out Knonies
> famous Phenolic Pipe Chanter. I was actually looking
> forward to it, thinking that maybe Krony is onto something
> here.
>
> Well we tested it next to a Sinclair chanter and
> found that it was........
>
> We break now for a commercial from
> The British Shop
>
> More results tomorrow!


MITCHELL YOU PRICK!!!!!

    ....and we both know that you had to beg off before you said something
NICE about Kron, don't we???

LOL!



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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:19:48 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scottish music

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 12:39:59 GMT, barry shears <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Royce Lerwick wrote:
>>
>>
>> The reel is *most traditionally* played in 4/4 with evenly weighted
>> 8th notes. It's built in it's olded form, upon 4 bar parts repeated,
>> for a total of 8 bars in each part of the dance.
>
>My own limited research into reel playing has uncovered at least one
>tune  containing 6 bars in its second part( as opposed to 8 bars). Both
>the first and second turns (parts ) are repeated. I found this very
>unusual and after checking with a fiddler friend of mine was informed
>that Robert Bremners Collection (c.1760s) of violin music contains some
>tunes with only six bars. Perhaps this is an even older form of the reel
>than that suggested or even a closer relationship with the local Gaelic
>oral tradition.

Or it's a specific set dance, or a particular kind of "reel." The
earliest hornpipes were border or even English/Welsh dances that
started in 3/4 and changed to 4/4.

>I collected the tune (Smiths of Chilliechassie) from a 1960s tape of
>Rory MacKinnon, Bay St Lawrence, Cape Breton.
>Pipers in this area had their own scale, used piobaireachd
>embellishments in their dance music and on some occassions would remove
>the bass drone middle joint and tune the shortened drone to the
>tenor.(Some pipers now are experimenting with tuning the second tenor to
>E )
>The late Cape Breton fiddler, Donald Angus Beaton, composed a great reel
>entitled "Tamarack 'er Down" .In stead of 8 bars (or 6) it has 10 in its
>first measure..The chief characteristic of a good reel is its rhythm,
>not the number of bars.

I don't know that this is true, since the "reel" is a dance, not the
tune you play for it. Nearly all reels with the statistically
insignificant exceptions you mention conform to the steps of the
dance. It is however perhaps one valid criticism of Cape Breton or
earlier Highland players, that they did indeed have no conception of
tune structure and is was sometimes the custom to just throw tunes
together with the right rhythm, and this sometimes resulted in the
tunes surviving with odd measures. You can dance to them, you just
start counting steps and ignore the melody and when you're done
dancing, the piper quits no matter where he is in the resulting
melody.

Far more subtly though, you are very right that a reel has a specific
metric accent that is discernable from a "round" hornpipe above and
beyond the number of measures, and this is more related to how musical
phrases are constructed.

But again, certainly at this late date, both the reel and hornpipe
have been thoroughly categorized and defined, and the odd tune with
odd measures is exactly that, an odd tune.

Royce

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Date: 31 Oct 1999 03:20:23 GMT
From: [e-mail] (JSLOANPR)
Subject: (bagpipe) Scottish Music, Hell !

Tonight I played a wedding for a Scottish / Arabic bride and groom.
The wedding was a full Catholic Mass, one hour on my feet, standard stuff, in
out.

The reception!

I proceeded the bride and groom to Marie's ( sp, sorry I'am 3 sheets ) Wedding.
As soon as I cut off, 1/2 of the wedding party started an Arabic Harange, you
know, that weird wailing. Then the bride and groom started dancing to an Arabic
wedding tune.
Diversity is cool?!

Jim





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Date: 30 Oct 1999 18:49:05 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scraping Gilmour reeds

>>If you ever need to ease up a Gilmour reed then here is what you can do.
>>
>>Start about 4mm up from the hemp line and scrape evenly down the blade but
>>stop about 3 mm from the lips. Stay away from the edges of the blade by
>>about 1 mm. Treat both blades the same way.
>>
>>The trick is not to scrape off too much at one time. What you scrape off
>>should look like talcum powder. If the scrapings are not this fine then you
>>are scraping too much. The idea is to do a very light scraping, then play
>>for a day or so, and repeat if necessary, play again for a day or so etc.
>>etc. until the right strength is achieved.
>>
>
>
>This sounds like universal instructions for reed scraping Bill.......am I
>missing something...............what makes it unique to Gilmours

Those directions sound like standard directions for shaving *ridge-cut* reeds,
I note with some alarm.  I've sworn off ridge-cuts.  Say it ain't so,
Bill...are Gilmours ridge-cuts?

Zu

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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:09:00 -0400
From: "dnimmo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Regimential Kilts

Zudupiper wrote in message <[e-mail]>...
>>Are Regimential Kilts laid out like civilian kilts? >Regimental kilts are
pleated to the stripe, not the sett.  Some have different
>kinds of pleats, like box pleats.  Before about WW2 (I think) reg kilts
didn't
>have buckles, but fastened with pins.  Reg kilts also tend to have a higher
>rise than civ kilts,. and are usually VERY heavy weight.
>
>Zu

Yep....a military pleat is pleated so that every pleat has an identical part
of the tartan pattern (or sett), the civilian one is pleated so that the
final pattern seen in the pleats is the same as the pattern(or sett) seen on
the front apron......this is what Zu said above, just amplified a little.
An extra couple of yards of material is required in making military pleats
vice "sett pleats"....this adds to the overall weight of the kilt.  BUT
ALSO....... military kilts are usually manufactured from heavier material
(14 or 16 ounce  I think) .....civvie kilts don't usually go heavier than 14
ounce material (a matter of cost plus 14 ounce is usually heavy
enough).......material also available in 10 to 13 ounce range as well.  Nine
ounce material is available but should be used only for little girls
highland dancing kilts(lighter in weight for them, plus the lighter material
usually comes with a smaller pattern (sett) which looks better on tiny girls

HINT:  9 ounce material is the cheapest and often the most commonly
available.  Do not be tempted to have an adult kilt made of the lighter
material......it ends up creasing very easily and hangs more like a skirt
than a kilt, plus the smaller sett looks a bit rediculous on an adult.
Generally, the heavier the material, the better the kilt hangs.  I may be
out on the weights by an ounce or two but you get the drift.

David



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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:59:19 -0500
From: Chris Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Fun with BMW Gold ... and Shameless Self-Promotion

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:13:41 GMT, "Pat Riley" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Chris,
>
>I went to the web site and listened to your tunes. I think they are quite
>good. I downloaded each of the MIDI files OK but could not download the
>zipped BMW file.
>
>I got this message:
>"File Not Found

Oops, it should work now.  The file *was* called tunes_bmw.zip, but I
renamed it to be ch_tunes_bmw.zip

Thanks!

Chris
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:51:55 -0700
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scottish Music, Hell !

how about one last July at the San Francisco Buddhist Centre with frigging
CHANTING for a half an hour??? Oy...
<[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:7vgkqa$maj$[e-mail]...
> I did a Scottish/Serbian wedding last month.  At the reception they
> served a whole frikkin' pig with an apple in its mouth.  Yummy
>
>
>
>
>                                                  Alex
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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Date: 31 Oct 1999 23:44:20 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The experiment!

>At last count (3mos ago) there were 264 people here.
>Bill

How did you find this out?

Zu

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Date: 31 Oct 1999 20:34:53 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Ghostly Piper (was Mauve  report)

>>hallucinated the whole thing. It was so real!
>>
>>Bill Carr
>
>I will hear him after being around pipe / massed bands all day. Once it gets
>quite it seems like any certain pitced noise or just plain silence will set
>it
>off for a few seconds

I hear them for a day or two after a huge weekend like Maxville. Their 50th
anniversary bash had me hearing them for 3 days. I look at it this way, I get
to hear that great music, and I don't even have to put in a CD or seek out a
piper LOL!
Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.


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Date: 31 Oct 1999 03:38:57 GMT
From: [e-mail] (JSLOANPR)
Subject: (bagpipe) Mauve  report

Met Mauve and Angus and her patient and put upon husband at the Tallahasse
gamed this AM.

After modeling my ZU-PIPER funeral T for her and polluting Angus's seasoning, I
promised her and hubby a band Guinese ( bad sp ).

Went back to the band tent to grab a few - this was 11:30am and whoops, only
Bud left. Note there was no comp at these games.

Angus was pissed!

I left early back to Jacksonville for a gig , the bus ride home for the band
must have been fun, dammn.

Mark Lee's drone reeds sounded better the wetter they got all through the humid
day and rainy evening. I am thinking of spraying them down with a mist bottle
before I strike in next time.

More on Mauve siteing when I am sober,

Jim

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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:19:48 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scottish music

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 12:39:59 GMT, barry shears <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Royce Lerwick wrote:
>>
>>
>> The reel is *most traditionally* played in 4/4 with evenly weighted
>> 8th notes. It's built in it's olded form, upon 4 bar parts repeated,
>> for a total of 8 bars in each part of the dance.
>
>My own limited research into reel playing has uncovered at least one
>tune  containing 6 bars in its second part( as opposed to 8 bars). Both
>the first and second turns (parts ) are repeated. I found this very
>unusual and after checking with a fiddler friend of mine was informed
>that Robert Bremners Collection (c.1760s) of violin music contains some
>tunes with only six bars. Perhaps this is an even older form of the reel
>than that suggested or even a closer relationship with the local Gaelic
>oral tradition.

Or it's a specific set dance, or a particular kind of "reel." The
earliest hornpipes were border or even English/Welsh dances that
started in 3/4 and changed to 4/4.

>I collected the tune (Smiths of Chilliechassie) from a 1960s tape of
>Rory MacKinnon, Bay St Lawrence, Cape Breton.
>Pipers in this area had their own scale, used piobaireachd
>embellishments in their dance music and on some occassions would remove
>the bass drone middle joint and tune the shortened drone to the
>tenor.(Some pipers now are experimenting with tuning the second tenor to
>E )
>The late Cape Breton fiddler, Donald Angus Beaton, composed a great reel
>entitled "Tamarack 'er Down" .In stead of 8 bars (or 6) it has 10 in its
>first measure..The chief characteristic of a good reel is its rhythm,
>not the number of bars.

I don't know that this is true, since the "reel" is a dance, not the
tune you play for it. Nearly all reels with the statistically
insignificant exceptions you mention conform to the steps of the
dance. It is however perhaps one valid criticism of Cape Breton or
earlier Highland players, that they did indeed have no conception of
tune structure and is was sometimes the custom to just throw tunes
together with the right rhythm, and this sometimes resulted in the
tunes surviving with odd measures. You can dance to them, you just
start counting steps and ignore the melody and when you're done
dancing, the piper quits no matter where he is in the resulting
melody.

Far more subtly though, you are very right that a reel has a specific
metric accent that is discernable from a "round" hornpipe above and
beyond the number of measures, and this is more related to how musical
phrases are constructed.

But again, certainly at this late date, both the reel and hornpipe
have been thoroughly categorized and defined, and the odd tune with
odd measures is exactly that, an odd tune.

Royce

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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 04:33:27 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Binious Jig

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:00:55 -0800, "Don Robertson"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi All, Ok, here's one for the tune historians. I have this tune, Binious
>Jig, Ok, so I go to the dictionary to find out what "Binious" is, are, is at
>etc. Nothing.
>WHAT THE HELL IS "BINIOUS" !!!!?????!!!!

French bagpipe.

Royce

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Date: 31 Oct 1999 11:16:45 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review

>MITCHELL YOU PRICK!!!!!
>
>    ....and we both know that you had to beg off before you said something
>NICE about Kron, don't we???
>
>LOL!

I second this... C'mon John, tell us!
Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.


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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:22:23 -0700
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) WYGENT DUATONES

They're here - the world's first pornographic drone reed. INSTANT TONE. I
kid you not. Truly plug and play, the Duatone reed is the culmination of
five years of work. Just got a set to try, put them in, and WOW - SWEET!
A word of warning - they aren't for everybody. Steady blowing IS a must, and
they take LESS air even though they have two tongues. More on this tomorrow
after they blow in a little more.

IS
no, they aren't in stock yet. Maybe later in November.



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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:27:20 GMT
From: Bill Carr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Time Out

Have any of you ever taken time out from bagpiping and then come back
with a new enthusiasm, fresh outlook, etc.?

After a  couple of months of waning passion for the instrument I've just
made the decision. I've carefully oiled and packed away the pipes and
removed most everything else to do with piping "out of sight".

There are still a lot of loose ends, like a new set of pipes on order
and an old set being restored so I'll still be involved, in some way,
for a while.

After almost five years of obsessive indulgence in piping this is going
to be very strange but hopefully I'll be back with a vengeance in the
New Year. If not? Well.... then there will be two classic sets of pipes
plus a new set on the market, plus pile of odds and ends.

Wish me luck

Cheers

Bill Carr

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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:43:23 -0800
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: WYGENT DUATONES

check it out at www.cuillinn.com/notesNov99.html
Iain Sherwood <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:[e-mail]...
> They're here - the world's first pornographic drone reed. INSTANT TONE. I
> kid you not. Truly plug and play, the Duatone reed is the culmination of
> five years of work. Just got a set to try, put them in, and WOW - SWEET!
> A word of warning - they aren't for everybody. Steady blowing IS a must,
and
> they take LESS air even though they have two tongues. More on this
tomorrow
> after they blow in a little more.
>
> IS
> no, they aren't in stock yet. Maybe later in November.
>
>



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Date: 31 Oct 1999 00:45:48 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Plastic Warmac vs Kron AB chanter

>ZU your not a band guy, or a solo guy,
>but you are a Nice guy!
>

Awwww....(blush)  I bet you say that to all the guys!

And I don't look too bad in a kilt either.

Zu

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Date: 31 Oct 1999 03:20:23 GMT
From: [e-mail] (JSLOANPR)
Subject: (bagpipe) Scottish Music, Hell !

Tonight I played a wedding for a Scottish / Arabic bride and groom.
The wedding was a full Catholic Mass, one hour on my feet, standard stuff, in
out.

The reception!

I proceeded the bride and groom to Marie's ( sp, sorry I'am 3 sheets ) Wedding.
As soon as I cut off, 1/2 of the wedding party started an Arabic Harange, you
know, that weird wailing. Then the bride and groom started dancing to an Arabic
wedding tune.
Diversity is cool?!

Jim





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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:51:55 -0700
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scottish Music, Hell !

how about one last July at the San Francisco Buddhist Centre with frigging
CHANTING for a half an hour??? Oy...
<[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:7vgkqa$maj$[e-mail]...
> I did a Scottish/Serbian wedding last month.  At the reception they
> served a whole frikkin' pig with an apple in its mouth.  Yummy
>
>
>
>
>                                                  Alex
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:43:23 -0800
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: WYGENT DUATONES

check it out at www.cuillinn.com/notesNov99.html
Iain Sherwood <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:[e-mail]...
> They're here - the world's first pornographic drone reed. INSTANT TONE. I
> kid you not. Truly plug and play, the Duatone reed is the culmination of
> five years of work. Just got a set to try, put them in, and WOW - SWEET!
> A word of warning - they aren't for everybody. Steady blowing IS a must,
and
> they take LESS air even though they have two tongues. More on this
tomorrow
> after they blow in a little more.
>
> IS
> no, they aren't in stock yet. Maybe later in November.
>
>



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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:03:39 -0400
From: "dnimmo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Regimential Kilts

Iain Sherwood wrote in message ...
>Pleating to the stripe takes LESS cloth than pleating to the sett - BUT
>military kilts are made of CHEVIOT, a 20 ounce fabric woven on blanket
>looms. It's only available in a few tartans, except for those who want to
>spring for a bolt (140 yards).


I stand corrected Iain  !

I would have sworn my information was what I read several years ago BUT I
just  measured my kilts........there is less material per pleat in my Nova
Scotia tartan military pleated kilt than in my Hunting Stewart "sett pleated
" kilt !  Pleat "depth" for the military is a standard 2 1/4 inches whereas
the sett pleat depth varies from about 2 1/4 inches up to almost 4 inches !
AND  I didn't realize they still made kilts out of "blanket material"....but
then again, the original  "kilt" was a blanket !

David



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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 04:59:22 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Halloween

Just saw a History Channel piece on the history of Halloween. I live
in the "Halloween Capital of the World" by the way. Didn't realize
just how Celtic this thing is. No wonder. Off to smash a few pumpkins,
toile-paper a few cars and trees, and maybe lob an egg or two. Oh
yeah, almost forgot the cherry bombs for the mailboxes....

Royce

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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 04:54:04 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The experiment!

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:13:31 -0000, "lsrapm"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>If I read you right you're wondering how much is going to be revealed and
>when, and that you are also
>concerned about anyone's name appearing at the bottom of the list.

No. I'm trying to read you. What's the problem? Why are people
reluctant to have their names revealed? Why only the half dozen
contributors you mentioned? And please don't call the game with a half
a dozen. We've got forever. Put the word out some more and wait a
while.

Royce



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