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Subject: bagpipe-digest V1 #168
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bagpipe-digest Friday, October 29 1999 Volume 01 : Number 168
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:26:49 -0400
From: "Maeve" <terride@sanctum.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Speaking of . . .
Don't tempt me, Hon! I've been known to book flights in a heartbeat and be
gone before anyone realizes that I'm missing!!!!!! Sangria?????? :) I'm
outta here!!!
- --
Love and Light be with you,
Maeve . . . in sunny Florida
http://people.delphi.com/terralyn
terride@sanctum.com
Leslie Thomson <piperjlt@arrakis.es> wrote in message
news:3818b031@news.arrakis.es...
>
>
> Living in distant Spain I'm missing out on all the fun,
> you should bring those games here, the sun is great,
> so's the vino and the gazpacho.
>
> Leslie
> The Gaucho Piper
>
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:48:26 GMT
From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: THE BIG TONE CONTEST
On 28 Oct 1999 21:32:53 GMT, zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) wrote:
>>> Playing in the same room as the computer, I ended up with a hugely
>>distorted
>>> sound file - sort of a heavy metal pipe, if you will.
>>
>>You have to turn down the volume control of the microphone.
>>
>>I had it set at about 1/4 up.
>
>What about first recording the piping onto a cassette tape in a proper room,
>then playing the cassette tape into the mic?
>
>Would this help or hurt?
>
>Zu
No, that would be too intelligent.
Royce
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Date: 28 Oct 1999 21:48:54 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Piob Soc Books: Buy or swap?
Is anybody looking to sell some (or all) of the PS books?
I'd swap a T-shirt for each PS book if anybody's up for that and the size is
right...
Can't decide whether to get a Ross Elex Bagpipe or a set of the PS books for
Xmas....
Zu
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:23:39 +0100
From: "lsrapm" <lsrapm@NOSPAMceyre.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Speaking of . . .
Maeve <terride@sanctum.com> wrote in message
news:3818bfa0.0@news3.paonline.com...
> Don't tempt me, Hon! I've been known to book flights in a heartbeat and be
> gone before anyone realizes that I'm missing!!!!!! Sangria?????? :) I'm
> outta here!!!
> --
> Love and Light be with you,
> Maeve . . . in sunny Florida
Maeve,
Do you want to know something?
I'm really getting to look forward to your posts.
I don't quite know why.
It's got something to do with the sheer spontaneity and sincerity of what
you
have to say.
Chris Eyre
Chris
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:30:49 GMT
From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: THE BIG TONE CONTEST
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:54:42 GMT, Bill Carr <nordic.piper@of.telia.no>
wrote:
>
>Norwegian National Anthem = "Ja vi elsker dette landet" = Yes we make
>love (in) this country = (a poor translation)
My Norwegian cousins tell me this is incorrect. The more literal
translation would be, "Yes, we have a sexual attraction to soil."
Royce
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:02:52 GMT
From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Makers of Uilleann Pipes
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:20:43 -0400, sutton
<sutton@laplace.csb.yale.edu> wrote:
>Hi Felix,
>
>You should have a look at:
>
>www.uilleann.com
>
>Seth Gallagher makes a fantastic set of uilleann pipes in from his shop in New
>York, USA.
>
>Bryan
I certainly can't add anything to that. I just did. What a liar. In
any case, Gallagher is the most undiscovered great pipe maker of the
day and his waiting list is not that long. In terms of *quality* of
materials and workmaship, I don't think there are any better. The tone
is fabulous.
Royce
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:49:43 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <ToneCzar@erols.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Nice Job
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:48:21 -0500, Kenton Adler
<kadler@cavern.uark.edu> wrote:
>
>Just one question Chris. How did you get them to name their band after
>you?
A donation of $40,000 makes all things possible.
Of course, wait till they find out there's nothing in the bank backing
that cheque!
Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com
City of Washington Pipe Band
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:57:37 GMT
From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Manly-ometer
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:42:19 -0400, Chris Hamilton
<ToneCzar@erols.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:22:11 -0400, "Lindsay Kirkwood"
>I ain't marketin' nuthin, so I can comment! (oops, brain cells dying
>here). I don't think these reeds need much marketing, they've done
>quite well via word-of-mouth.
Just for the record, and not to pimp Mark or slam Lindsay, or further
confuse Chris, but the viability of Mark's reeds, as a marketable
commondity, as well as the quality of piper using and praising them
has for some time now progressed well well beyond needing Lindsay
Kirkwood's approval or the surreptitious use of Chris Hamilton as a
"poster boy."
Royce
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:46:13 GMT
From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: LIVINGSTONE BOOK
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:56:23 GMT, "Crimmy Crum" <whippingboy@home.com>
wrote:
>i will also stretch the boat and say they were written by bill livingstone
>KPMcS Jr <kpmcsjr@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:19991027201308.03861.00000316@ng-fk1.aol.com...
>> What are the tunes in Livingstone's new book?
And if you buy everyone in the band a copy of the book instead of
running off copies like (ha ha) you're ethically, morally, and legally
required to do, when you band plays his tunes up to the line, Bill's
brother is under contract to come herald your way on, parting the
crowd as he goes before, just like the Frasers.
Royce
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:05:03 +0100
From: "lsrapm" <lsrapm@NOSPAMceyre.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: THE BIG TONE CONTEST
Zudupiper <zudupiper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19991028173253.26212.00002045@ng-bj1.aol.com...
> >> Playing in the same room as the computer, I ended up with a hugely
> >distorted
> >> sound file - sort of a heavy metal pipe, if you will.
> >
> >You have to turn down the volume control of the microphone.
> >
> >I had it set at about 1/4 up.
>
> What about first recording the piping onto a cassette tape in a proper
room,
> then playing the cassette tape into the mic?
>
> Would this help or hurt?
>
> Zu
Not a bad idea, Zu. I have done this with some old tape recordings I have of
recordings taken at the Oban Gold Medal comps. I played them back on a
little tape-recorder with the volume turned down very low but with the PC
mike pressed right up against the speaker. The results were very good.
Chris Eyre
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:42:16 GMT
From: John and/or Lori Gaudet <jlgaudet@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Pipe Chanters
and how many bands have you set up??????
I have a band at sea level here in Saint John, New Brunswick
We play at LEAST 474, and when we go to somewhere like Ontario, with the
heat its up to 478 most times.
I think maybe you should offer advice when you really know what you are
talking about!
The norm is definitely NOT 470!
Can I hear from more P/M's who set the band up on this?
Lori
markalee@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <939876042.319912@news.vaxxine.com>,
> "JOHN MITCHELL" <sunnybouy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Mark, don't mistake a Big, Fat sound for a louder sound.
>
> As I've never been a circle guy, you may assume whatever you will.
>
> I'll not bother trying to convince you of the merits of the Kron
> phenolic. Stop by the British Shop and give a listen for yourself.
>
> > 470 is in the bottom range of the pitch spectrum, bring it up
> > to 476 and see what results you get. If a chanter is flat,
> > then the top hand will go thru the roof and that's not much
> > use to anyone.
>
> I've made one or two custom sets of drone reeds for one or two pipers
> and 476 Hz is *not* the rule, at least in the U.S. and England. Dog-
> whistle-pitched pipe bands do not comprise the majority of the piping
> community.
>
> If that chanter goes through the roof, on the high hand, it's because
> its owner/operator can't get his/her chanter reed sorted out.
>
> Mark
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:47:23 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <ToneCzar@erols.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Pipe Chanters
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:42:16 GMT, John and/or Lori Gaudet
<jlgaudet@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>and how many bands have you set up??????
>I have a band at sea level here in Saint John, New Brunswick
>We play at LEAST 474, and when we go to somewhere like Ontario, with the
>heat its up to 478 most times.
>I think maybe you should offer advice when you really know what you are
>talking about!
>The norm is definitely NOT 470!
>Can I hear from more P/M's who set the band up on this?
470 is definitely low for a mid-summer gig.
We're around 476 - 478 in the summer, 474 - 476 in winter. High of
480 at Maxville (hot!), 469 at The Worlds (cold and rainy).
Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com
City of Washington Pipe Band
http://toneczar.freeservers.com/
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:54:40 -0700
From: "Todd" <rtmuscat@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Bagpipe simulation with VL70m
Try getting some samples from a local Pro ... or,
Ask George Boyde for the samples he made of someone from SFU (they come w/
his midi-pipes)
[I know, i know: "so & so also sells a midi-ppipe"; but George's sample is
the best real sampled GHB "Sound" I've heard]
Cheers
Todd
Joerg Hauschild <joerg.hauschild@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:381893D1.59D0@t-online.de...
> Does anybody know where I can find a bagpipe patch for the yamahas
> virtual acustic synthesizer VL70 m ?
> The factory patch is not good enougth.
> Thank you for any hints.
> J÷rg
>
> --
> http://home.t-online.de/home/joerg.hauschild/homepage.htm
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Date: 29 Oct 1999 03:32:29 GMT
From: ccc31807@aol.com (Ccc31807)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes")
>Hi Bill, just wondering, you have a lot of input into the
>group. You post quite a bit of stuff. I was wondering if
>you'd enlighten the group and myself as to your experience
>level please? What grade are you? How long have you been
>playing? What set's of pipes have you had ACTUAL experience
>with? Thanks much,
>
>Shawn
Bill has been more than forthcoming about his experience. He is a learner and
has been on the pipes for less than a year. The only make he has played (at
least that he has written about) is Kron. He is an enthusiastic student piper,
with much more enthusiasm than learning or experience.
I, for one, appreciate his perspective, but when I read his posts, I know how
to weigh what he says. At some point, though, if he keeps it up, he will be
able to post and have people give him credibility.
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Date: 29 Oct 1999 01:23:00 GMT
From: ccc31807@aol.com (Ccc31807)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Manly-ometer
>Chris Hamilton as a
>"poster boy."
Heaven help us all.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:14:57 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <ToneCzar@erols.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Manly-ometer
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:57:37 GMT, pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce
Lerwick) wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:42:19 -0400, Chris Hamilton
><ToneCzar@erols.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:22:11 -0400, "Lindsay Kirkwood"
>>I ain't marketin' nuthin, so I can comment! (oops, brain cells dying
>>here). I don't think these reeds need much marketing, they've done
>>quite well via word-of-mouth.
>
>Just for the record, and not to pimp Mark or slam Lindsay, or further
>confuse Chris, but the viability of Mark's reeds, as a marketable
>commondity, as well as the quality of piper using and praising them
>has for some time now progressed well well beyond needing Lindsay
>Kirkwood's approval or the surreptitious use of Chris Hamilton as a
>"poster boy."
I'm sooooo confused ... I'll pose naked if that would make things
better ...
Where's my royalties cheque, ya bastard!!!!!
Gotta run, Christie Hefner is on the Line 1 and Larry Flynt on Line 2
...
Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com
City of Washington Pipe Band
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:49:44 GMT
From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: THE BIG TONE CONTEST
On 28 Oct 1999 10:20:32 GMT, bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) wrote:
>>see if you can control the "gain" using the computers volume control
>>program during recording.
>
>Turned it all the way down, no luck.
See if there's an input gain pad of -20db.
Royce
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:22:01 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <ToneCzar@erols.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Tone - with no preservatives
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:59:19 -0400, Shawn Husk <shawnhusk@aol.com>
wrote:
>Kevin,
>
>You're wrong. Sorry to be blunt but you are. #1 once a
>sheepskin bag is "broken in" ie. takes about 2 weeks of
>seasoning and constant playing, it stabilizes. That's my
>experience anyway.
Some bags, true. Some not so true.
> I do and have been on the same bag for 2 years now and I
>season it only with hardies airtight and to be totally and
>perfectly honest I haven't NEEDED to season my bag in 3
>months. I know, unbelievable. But it's the truth. It's all
>about playing them.
I got an L&M sheepskin bag that, I kid you not, dissipated air and
repelled moisture. I seasoned the **** out of that m*f* four times
and after six weeks it still had not improved. The final straw was
when I did a thorough seasoning job with over 1/2 can of Airtight on a
Thursday night. I then played 1 to 1.5 hours per day for the next
week, and by the following Thursday, the bag was leaking (no obvious
leaks, just slow dissipation) and moisture was again accumulating on
the reeds (yes, I had a Gibson watertrap). That was it for me.
And the thought occurred to me ... this is nearly the 21st century ...
why I am pouring lard into a dead animal with alarming frequency?
Never had a bad Begg sheepskin bag, though. Currently I'm enjoying
Heather's new cowhide Gannaway (oops, sorry dear I know it was one of
your birthday presents, but hey whaddayagonnado?).
Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com
City of Washington Pipe Band
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:14:59 -0400
From: "Maeve" <terride@sanctum.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Jumping the gun . . .
Okay . . . the "Let's Dress Maeve" thing is off for Tallahassee this
weekend. I regret to say that I believe that I might have jumped the gun by
sending in my entry for the competition on the THIRTEENTH of November. I
guess I have been a little less than honest with all of you. I'll 'fess up
now and clear my conscience. Do you think that the piping judge would look
past the prison stripes and accept a shortened version of a march stride
because of shackles? This will all come after the county judge is done with
me. You all remember my saga of the expired driver's license on the way to
piping practice. Well.. . it got worse. Living proof that Murphy was an
optimist. . . you see, the day before I was leaving for England, I got my
court date in the mail. The date fell the day before I arrived back home.
Not wanting to cancel my trip and eat the airfares, I called the court and
asked if we could change it by two days since I would be out of the country.
No was the answer. . the only way it could be changed is if I entered a plea
of "not guilty". NOT GUILTY, I said! How can I do that on a ticket for
driving on an expired license?!?!? asked I. The voice on the other end of
the phone said, "This is the only way." Okay. So be it. I quickly wrote out
some lame excuse for being not guilty of driving on an expired license and
hand delivered it to the court. Well. . . . I now have an arraignment date.
Yes, it's true. This date is November 9th. I'm starting to see the pattern
emerge. . . the competition is Nov. 13th . . . my piobaireachd event is
#13. Do you think that my piobaireachd could replicate the mournful sounds
of a harmonica being played at the distant end of the cell block? I guess
it's back to being the Felon Piper for a while. . . see ya all in
Tallahassee this weekend for the final fling before they throw away the key
. . . .
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Love and Light be with you,
Maeve . . . The Felon Piper returning . . . head down and shuffling along.
http://people.delphi.com/terralyn
terride@sanctum.com
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Date: 29 Oct 1999 01:21:30 GMT
From: ccc31807@aol.com (Ccc31807)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Tone - with no preservatives
>> Bottom line: I would rather sound O.K. and play than sound great and not
>play.
>
>Huh????? Can you please tell me how YOU can sound great.........and not
>play????
This is an example of hyperbole. In other words, I was exaggerating to make a
point. My point was that cane reeds are frustrating, they often need fiddling
with to make them work, and they take constant care to keep them within a range
of temperature and humidity. With artificial reeds, OTOH, you can pretty much
ride them hard and put them up wet, and they will be ready to go the next day.
(And in case you are wondering, no, I don't really ride the reeds. This is a
rhetorical device called a metaphor, where one thing is compared to another to
make a point. I am comparing reeds to horses, and the point is,
...
nevermind
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:52:25 GMT
From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Twin Cities Metropolitan Pipe Bnad
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:19:18 -0400, "JOHN MITCHELL"
<sunnybouy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>IMOIR <imoir@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Mitchell knows EXACTLY what you mean. When John says he can play in
>> any band in the world he means only the one that haven't thrown him out
>> once already.
>
>Ummm! What bands would that be Ian?
Take a tip from Mitchell and just reply with a vague allusion
like..."Well, ye know, ye hear stuff...."
Royce
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:05:08 -0500
From: "matheson" <matheson@prodigy.net>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Hard Gilmour reeds
markalee@my-deja.com wrote in message <7v8ah3$u97$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>> Bill Carr <nordic.piper@of.telia.no> wrote in message
>> news:3815AB52.6C291C4D@of.telia.no...
>> >
>> > I've got some Gilmour reeds that sound at 48" Water. That's about as
>> > stiff a reed as I have every tried.
>
>Install a venturi pipe chanter stock and that will come down to around
>44" H2O.
That brings up a question. A while back there was a great discussion about
the effects of a venturi chanter stock. What ever was the outcome? Wasn't
somebody going to get some data?
Les
>
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Date: 29 Oct 1999 01:41:34 GMT
From: <invisiblesun@prodigy.net>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: "Survey: Weighting System"
Bentley Wall <bxw11@po.cwru.edu> wrote in article
these things might be evaluated by some standard
> approach. This presumably would have the effect of producing similar
> scores from different judges on different days with an identical
> performance, and barring the use of judging territories, produce similar
> scores from two judges on the same day.
The problem here Bentley is that it sounds as if you are trying to set a
'universal' standard of judging a contest by boxing a judge into strict
criteria. I think you miss the mark in this case. As in sport, it doesn't
matter how many points you score, as long as you score more than your
opponent that day. A win is a win... by one point or 20.
My perception of your goal leads me to believe that you think we would be
able to hold competitions between bands playing at different venues on
different days perhaps, judged by different panels, etc. as long as the
point structure is consistent right? Why don't we have a computer listen
to the contest. Hell, they grade essays for college admissions and
standardized tests.
It is still an art form. There has to be some degree of free
interpretation on the judge's behalf as much as we need to maintain a
freedom of expression as musicians. Hell, judges are artists too! A given
contest on a given day is the microcosm we should focus on. You can ensure
consistency by judging with a panel of consistently evaluated and certified
judges. They should be trained to focus on the same criteria from a
similar perspective, weigh the various categories with the same proportions
and maintain a similar notion of what is a fundamentally good sound, pitch
etc. But to each his own in the end.
Ranking is ultimately the only way to give the results of a contest.
Points will always be subjective and arbitrary and they leave the door open
for anomalies. How one arrives at those rankings should be a similar
method of analysis, but not a constraint that dulls the drama and boxes in
a band's scope and vision. There is no clock, no measuring stick, no goal
post or hoop. Why try to invent those to level the field. Perhaps we
should weigh the reaction of the crowd. I trust them more than I do a
computer. After all, the crowd pays the prize money...don't they?
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 02:37:10 GMT
From: markalee@my-deja.com
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Pipe Chanters
In article <3818C52E.8D9851C7@nbnet.nb.ca>,
John and/or Lori Gaudet <jlgaudet@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> and how many bands have you set up??????
When you think about that question, you can begin to realize how
utterly ridiculous it is. I might just as easily ask you how many
bands or Gold Medalists are buying your reeds, but that too would be a
ridiculous question and would serve no useful purpose. I was speaking
in general terms and you decided to take a sentence out of context and
get a barbed tampon about it.
When pipers order reeds from me, they tell me at what pitch they're
playing so I can set up their reeds. Sorry if my numbers don't jibe
with yours.
I take it you've set up a number of bands. I'm simply speaking as a
reedmaker who has sent reeds to band members and soloists in both
hemispheres.
Pitch is, of course, dependent upon a number of things. It's really
not worth the risk of high blood-pressure debating them. If you prefer
a dog-whistle because the grade 1 J.S. Ragman band plays them, knock
yourself out.
Mark
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Date: 29 Oct 1999 03:39:04 GMT
From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Hand comfort
>I recently found out through mistake that all chanters are not holed the
>exact same... The gibson I have is great, but I tried a Plastic
>pettigrew that was in my band and found the fingers to be relaxed and
>closer. Just a scoche of a scootch closer together than my gibson made
>my fingers feel so comfortable. Are there any other chanters that are
>more easily held?...PS don't get me wrong Jerry, my Gibson ain't goin'
>anywhere.
We just discovered this too! My daughter rec'd her band chanter and the finger
spacing is noticeably different from our Kron solo chanter, or our Dunbar. On
the band chanter the LA hole is NOTICEABLY farther apart from the B hole by a
good measure. It makes it difficult to play without a conscience effort. The
Kron is still by far our favorite solo chanter though...
Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.
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Date: 29 Oct 1999 03:40:14 GMT
From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: What is the Best Bagpipe Maker?
>Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shawn,
HA HA's make a good pipe, but I prefer HO HO's pipes for solo.
Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.
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Date: 29 Oct 1999 03:54:33 GMT
From: pipertommy@aol.com (Pipertommy)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Payne Stewart
that was Steve Agan of the Hamilton Pipe Band, in Houston. He was one of the
contestants at the Yukon, OK contest. Great player and a super person! I'm
glad to see he was the one to play for the service. Tom
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Date: 29 Oct 1999 03:54:00 GMT
From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Tone - with no preservatives
>This is an example of hyperbole. In other words, I was exaggerating to make
>a
>point. My point was that cane reeds are frustrating, they often need
>fiddling
>with to make them work,
We had forsaken our cane reeds for Wygents, then zudu reeds, and now have a
combo of zudu tenors with a cane bass, and the blend of sounds is totally
awesome! Mind you I was never happy with the low growl that our bass drone
delivered with syns (all kinds), but this combo is really the cats-ass for
harmonics and tone.
The difference was noticeable enough to get my daughter out of her room and
into the living room to "see what I'd done to her pipes to make them sound so
nice!", and she wouldn't notice a wounded squirrel in the bag if I put one in,
so it's quite amazing she'd go out of her way to come out and listen.
I've heard others here comment on this phenomenon, so I thought I'd add our two
cents to the FWIW pile.
Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:56:19 GMT
From: John and/or Lori Gaudet <jlgaudet@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Pipe Chanters
markalee@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <3818C52E.8D9851C7@nbnet.nb.ca>,
> John and/or Lori Gaudet <jlgaudet@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> > and how many bands have you set up??????
>
> When you think about that question, you can begin to realize how
> utterly ridiculous it is. I might just as easily ask you how many
> bands or Gold Medalists are buying your reeds, but that too would be a
> ridiculous question and would serve no useful purpose.
Ahhhh but that is not what is in question.....its your knowledge of what is
acceptible chanter pitch...... you are commenting on a subject you have
very little experience in......and trying to give advice.....the wrong
advice mind you.......You will never see me suggesting anything about reed
making.....because I'm not "educated enough" to comment on types of
materials...yada yada yada.....only comments about the sound and set up of
drone reeds because that is what I am experienced in after nearly 30 yrs of
piping. Some of us know our limits of knowledge in areas and are willing to
sit back and learn from who we know as experts in the field.......
Sooooo, why put your two cents worth in about the pitch of chanters, when
you are sooooooo undoubtedly wrong about it?
This is what irks me about this group.......you drive away anyone with an
ounce of knowledge, and people like you are revered for giving bad
advice.......do everyone a favour, and think before you start typing from
now on.......
> I was speaking
> in general terms and you decided to take a sentence out of context and
> get a barbed tampon about it.
What kind of demeaning comment is this? Do you think you won any points
with the women on the group with it? I think not, but then again, you
probably don't care.....
>
>
> When pipers order reeds from me, they tell me at what pitch they're
> playing so I can set up their reeds. Sorry if my numbers don't jibe
> with yours.
Who's do they jive with???????
>
>
> I take it you've set up a number of bands.
Yes sir.......been setting up a band since I was 17......and you?
> I'm simply speaking as a
> reedmaker who has sent reeds to band members and soloists in both
> hemispheres.
Congrats......but that makes you no expert on the subject of what pitch a
band's chanters are set at?
>
>
> Pitch is, of course, dependent upon a number of things.
Well duhhhhhhhhh,
> It's really
> not worth the risk of high blood-pressure debating them. If you prefer
> a dog-whistle because the grade 1 J.S. Ragman band plays them, knock
> yourself out.
So who's example, in your almighty opinion, should I be emulating???
Yours?? at 470?? I'd get laughed off the field.....
;-)
Lori
and no......its not pms week
wait til it is.....;-)))
>
>
> Mark
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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Date: 29 Oct 1999 04:28:58 GMT
From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: piping and strokes
>>How far can you run?
>
>I don't run for distance.
Well after reading your post I realize it's somewhat of a workout, 2 to 4 miles
is respectable, but it still doesn't explain these big, out of shape guys who
smoke 2 packs a day of butts, have sedentary jobs and lifestyles, but can still
play for hours. This subject fascinates me (because I don't understand it).
Will I come into some "glorious state of consciousness" after twenty years of
playing, and suddenly know the answer to this question like with all other
"piping mysteries"? Or... maybe you could just tell me now LOL!
Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:38:46 -0700
From: "Iain Sherwood" <pipey@netwiz.net>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Jumping the gun . . .
plead insanity - it always worked for me...
Maeve <terride@sanctum.com> wrote in message
news:3819032b.0@news3.paonline.com...
> Okay . . . the "Let's Dress Maeve" thing is off for Tallahassee this
> weekend. I regret to say that I believe that I might have jumped the gun
by
> sending in my entry for the competition on the THIRTEENTH of November. I
> guess I have been a little less than honest with all of you. I'll 'fess up
> now and clear my conscience. Do you think that the piping judge would look
> past the prison stripes and accept a shortened version of a march stride
> because of shackles? This will all come after the county judge is done
with
> me. You all remember my saga of the expired driver's license on the way to
> piping practice. Well.. . it got worse. Living proof that Murphy was an
> optimist. . . you see, the day before I was leaving for England, I got my
> court date in the mail. The date fell the day before I arrived back home.
> Not wanting to cancel my trip and eat the airfares, I called the court and
> asked if we could change it by two days since I would be out of the
country.
> No was the answer. . the only way it could be changed is if I entered a
plea
> of "not guilty". NOT GUILTY, I said! How can I do that on a ticket for
> driving on an expired license?!?!? asked I. The voice on the other end of
> the phone said, "This is the only way." Okay. So be it. I quickly wrote
out
> some lame excuse for being not guilty of driving on an expired license and
> hand delivered it to the court. Well. . . . I now have an arraignment
date.
> Yes, it's true. This date is November 9th. I'm starting to see the pattern
> emerge. . . the competition is Nov. 13th . . . my piobaireachd event is
> #13. Do you think that my piobaireachd could replicate the mournful sounds
> of a harmonica being played at the distant end of the cell block? I guess
> it's back to being the Felon Piper for a while. . . see ya all in
> Tallahassee this weekend for the final fling before they throw away the
key
> . . . .
> --
> Love and Light be with you,
> Maeve . . . The Felon Piper returning . . . head down and shuffling along.
> http://people.delphi.com/terralyn
> terride@sanctum.com
>
>
>
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