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bagpipe-digest Tuesday, October 12 1999 Volume 01 : Number 134
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:42:43 GMT
From: oshpiper <oshpiper@my-deja.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: On the beat?
In article <939580487.612955@news.vaxxine.com>,
"JOHN MITCHELL" <sunnybouy@hotmail.com> wrote:
John, does the last rat abandoning ship tell you anything?
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Leave me out of this,
John's responsible for his own comments and hasn't
used my identity(posts)
for quite some time now .Or maybe you've been away
or your specs need
cleaning!!!!
Then again I Guess you haven't been away with the
amount of posts you've
written!
Lindsay
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> Oops, anger management therapy kicking in again!
>
> IT'S time for a wee pint.
So, is geographical relocation in your future, too. Ask your therapist
about that if you don't understand.
Pat
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:32:52 GMT
From: oshpiper <oshpiper@my-deja.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes")
In article <939580492.6505@news.vaxxine.com>,
"JOHN MITCHELL" <sunnybouy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Your experience, and opinion are based on the how many
> years of playing Bill? One year.
Let's see now. "Eyesight" and "years of playing" are now somehow
inseparably linked. Oh, no! I wear eye glasses - the end is near for
me.
> Bill maybe once you have played for a quite a few
> more years, then you will be able to form your own
> opinion and be able to judge a set of pipes based
> on your own requirements.
You just keep spinning your circle of manure a little tighter each time,
John.
> I don't know about you Bill, but I prefer to do
> business with companies that have respect for people.
Gee, are you saying Jerry Gibson never uttered a foul word about anyone
in the pipe making community, or even about his customers? Is this the
respect you are talking about, John?
Pat
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:38:43 GMT
From: "Ron Bowen" <Ron_Bowen@sympatico.ca>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Open Post - No Title
Royce, now I know you're pulling my leg. The "Royce writes" quote (from
you) was from October 9 in the "Shut the Fuck Up & Play" thread that has
been spinning for weeks now. October 9 is hardly "ancient history." You
started out shouting at John and then all of a sudden referred to me, and
then signed off by talking directly to me. I never went anywhere near that
thread! Royce, I think you need a rest. This doesn't look good. How are
we supposed to take the rest of your posts seriously?
Ringo
Royce Lerwick <pmlerwick@wavetech.net> wrote in message
news:38016b8e.5577632@news.mn.mediaone.net...
> On Sat, 09 Oct 1999 18:58:24 GMT, "Ron Bowen" <Ron_Bowen@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Royce writes (Shut the Fuck Up & Play!!! Oct 9 1999 11:48) > > Yeah
Ringo,
> >you just keep taking your inside sources from guys the people in the
current
> >world's championship grade 1 pipe band have written off as "not having a
> >clue" how to set up a pipe band.
>
> You know Ron, in net terms this is a historical document by now. Don't
> know why you pulled this quote up now and responded to it at this
> point, because it's ancient history and there's not enough context to
> establish a response to it.
>
> Royce
>
> (Don't remember what or if you said to prompt it.)
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Date: 5 Oct 1999 19:09:59 -0500
From: "Matt Buckley" <bdrpipes@together.net>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners
John - Its important to keep track of who said what:
JOHN MITCHELL <sunnybouy@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<939138189.962500@news.vaxxine.com>...
> Matt Buckley <bdrpipes@together.net> wrote in
> > > > sure takes a lot of gaul to say what you just said. Hamish Moore?
> > > > Allan MacDonald? Gordan Duncan? all dismissed as whiners?
Read my posts. This is not my statement.
I did say:
> > Wrong again, John. I cannot speak for Allan or Gordon. I can
> > speak for Hamish, and Gary West, who were in Vermont in
> > August for the School. When I asked Hamish about Peel and
> > a couple of other bands, he was pretty much up-to-date.
You said:
> So why the statement about holding competition holding no esteme?
Read my posts. I said nothing about competition being held in no esteem by
these folks. Gaelmann started the "esteem"
topic.
> It's an obvious attempt on your part Matt to use these Names
> to get up on your own platform. Real Musicians general >recognise good
talent in any forum, but it might not be their >cup of tea. If Gordon
Duncan, Gary West play in any >pipeband, then the competition must mean
something to >them.
> John
My only platform concerned your offensive remarks regarding
adult learners. The folks I listed, some of whom are friends,
are simply challenging assumptions held dear by pipers
whose only contact with piping is competition. Again, I
heard NRP at Montreal and greatly enjoyed the piping, and
to some extent the band competitions. You need not
convince me that pipers of your level have much to say. However, Gordon
and Gary (both Vale of Atholl) and countless others (Dougie Pincock ...
Ian MacDonald...) also have something to say, and I plan on listening to,
and learning from, all sides.
Matt
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Date: 5 Oct 1999 12:38:24 -0500
From: "Matt Buckley" <bdrpipes@together.net>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: "Farewell to the Creeks"
From The American Heritage Dictionary of the English
Language:
"Creek. A confederacy of several Muskhogean-speaking
Indian tribes, formerly inhabiting parts of Georgia, Alabama
and Northern Florida."
I also recall from my history degree days that the Creeks
were the principal object of the wrath of Davey Crockett, Andrew Jackson,
et.al. The Creek wars were in the early
part of the 19th century, and had nothing to do with the
Seven Years War.
The Crees are based in Western Canada. The most well-
known present-day Cree is actress Tantoo Cardinal.
P.S. I am still curious about the title. Paul Gretton - lend
some help here!
Drew McPheeters <Drew.McPheeters@wcom.com> wrote in article
<lNnK3.2491$Bf6.43025@pm02news>...
> Uuuhhmm, that was the Cree Indian tribe, not Creek.
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Date: 8 Oct 1999 13:24:12 -0500
From: "Matt Buckley" <bdrpipes@together.net>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scottish Dancing?
Bill Carr <nordic.piper@of.telia.no> wrote in article
<37FCAB1E.18943338@of.telia.no>...
> I'm thinking of taking a course in Scottish Country Dancing
> because I have an idea that it might give me a better understanding of
> how to play Reels and Straths on the pipes.
Talk about a can of worms .... Should make for an interesting
new thread.
1. Many argue that Scottish Country Dancing (SCD) has more
to with English court dancing than traditional Scottish
dance. We do know that it is a relatively recent tradition
arising out of late Victorian
2. The reels and strathspeys played for SCD are played at
very different tempos, and very different phrasing, than
reels and strathspeys played originally for the older, and
in my mind more authentic, Scottish ceili dancing. Many
threads have gone before on the NG addressing "Cape
Breton" or "gaelic" style piping and dance, and the more
formal SCD style piping and dance.
3. Perhaps the best approach (I'm trying not to incur the
wrath of the more competition-oriented NG brethren) is to
learn both, remaining at all times aware that an "under-
standing" of SCD reels and strathspeys does not neces-
sarily translate into an "understanding" of traditional
Scottish reel and strathspey playing in general.
Cheers. Matt
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:31:45 +0100
From: Iain Richardson <iaingr@bigfoot.com.REMOVE>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Hymns suitable for church play
There are some hymns in the Church of Scotland publication "Songs of God's People"
that are set to traditional Scottish tunes: e.g. there is one set to "Dream Angus"
which of course is a good pipe tune.
Iain Richardson.
Derek Young wrote:
> In article <rvuu99tfh1s14@corp.supernews.com>, "Sunwolfe" <andre@wac.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm looking for a few pipe "hymns." Amazing Grace is all I know and I'd like
> > to have a few more hymns in my repertoire. Any tune suggestions?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andre'
>
> I like "Just As I Am," "A Gift to Be Simple," and "Diamonds in the Rough."
>
> Derek
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:35:28 +0100
From: "Steve White" <sjwhiteNOSPAM@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scottish Pipeband music
Surely its "MONTY python" - you got the stress all wrong! :-)
Steve White
Willie Carr wrote in message <37FEE210.A4813E6@of.telia.no>...
>Monty PYTHON
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:13:47 GMT
From: aberdeen <aberdeen@wt.net>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Info on Lars Sloan
In article <7tdpq2$c6f$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
robb1972@hotmail.com wrote:
Lars was an open grade piper in his competition days, but no longer
walks the boards. He has been teaching for a number of years and the
most recent CD by The Rogues is up for a Grammy Award. Many of the
tunes on the CD were written by Lars. For a review of the CD by Piper
& Drummer magazine, visit
<http://www.piperanddrummer.com/reviews/default.asp?aID=778>
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Date: 11 Oct 1999 19:03:16 GMT
From: bdunsire@aol.comNOSPAM (Bob Dunsire)
Subject: (bagpipe) Nicol-Brown contest - results+
Greetings,
I'm surprised that I haven't seen the results from the Nicol-Brown posted.
Perhaps it is just that AOL won't let me see the post - that does happen from
time to time. So, sorry if I am duplicating a message, but.. FWIW:
6/8 March
Glenn Pocock
Heather Scott
Bill Weir
Piobaireachd
Maureen Conner
Decker Forrest
Linda MacKay
MSR
Glenn Pocock
Heather Scott
Linda MacKay
Overall
Glenn Pocock
It was a great contest - well run (perhaps the breaks were a bit long), by may
hardworking, friendly and supportive people. I was a bit surprised at the
relatively small number of spectators, but I believe everyone there had to be
impressed with the event (the playing, organzation, and venue). Everyone
(competitors, parents, spectators, ..) was really friendly too - great stuff..
We'll plan to go next year (if Alison is invited again), because it is fully
worth the effort and expense.
(BTW: Alison was very happy with her bagpipe sound and with the way she played.
(except for a note mistake in her Piobaireachd) In fact, it was the first time
in her piping life that she was happy with her playing and a judge did not
feel the same way (Lucky girl -eh? to go nearly five years before she runs
into this 'fact of life'..) )
Bob D.
(having too much fun with web pages, including:
http://members.aol.com/bdunsire
http://members.aol.com/bagpipeweb (Bagpipe Web Directory - 900+ links)
http://www.user.dccnet.com/bcpipers/index.htm (BC Pipers' Association))
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:58 GMT
From: oshpiper <oshpiper@my-deja.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes")
In article <7tteh1$bi0$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
John Mitchell <sunnybouy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> So PAT, what useful info do you have for us today.
> I don't beleive you have posted one piece of
> imformative or imaginitive insight yet.
You believe only what you think will further an arguement.
> Why don't you make yourself useful and
> tell me something that I don't already know.
I don't have to post another bit of information about you. You have
done it for me. Thanks.
Pat
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 21:16:04 GMT
From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners
On 5 Oct 1999 19:09:59 -0500, "Matt Buckley" <bdrpipes@together.net>
wrote:
>My only platform concerned your offensive remarks regarding
>adult learners. The folks I listed, some of whom are friends,
>are simply challenging assumptions held dear by pipers
>whose only contact with piping is competition. Again, I
>heard NRP at Montreal and greatly enjoyed the piping, and
>to some extent the band competitions. You need not
>convince me that pipers of your level have much to say. However, Gordon
>and Gary (both Vale of Atholl) and countless others (Dougie Pincock ...
>Ian MacDonald...) also have something to say, and I plan on listening to,
>and learning from, all sides.
I think you're missing his main point though Matt, and that is, if
these guys were any good, in his mind, they'd be in conventional GHB
bands playing the amateur competition circuit for their own
gonad-driven edification, rather than playing real music on real
instruments and making a living at it.
Royce
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:13:32 GMT
From: aberdeen <aberdeen@wt.net>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Info on Lars Sloan
In article <7tdpq2$c6f$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
robb1972@hotmail.com wrote:
Lars was an open grade piper in his competition days, but no longer
walks the boards. He has been teaching for a number of years and the
most recent CD by The Rogues is up for a Grammy Award. Many of the
tunes on the CD were written by Lars. For a review of the CD by Piper
& Drummer magazine, visit
<http://www.piperanddrummer.com/reviews/default.asp?aID=778>
Welcome to Houston.
All the best,
Jim
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:41:25 GMT
From: John Mitchell <sunnybouy@hotmail.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes")
oshpiper <oshpiper@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <939580492.6505@news.vaxxine.com>,
> "JOHN MITCHELL" <sunnybouy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Bill maybe once you have played for a quite a few
> > more years, then you will be able to form your own
> > opinion and be able to judge a set of pipes based
> > on your own requirements.
>
> You just keep spinning your circle of manure a little tighter each
time,
> John.
So PAT, what useful info do you have for us today.
I don't beleive you have posted one piece of
imformative or imaginitive insight yet.
Why don't you make yourself useful and
tell me something that I don't already know.
You think you can do that sweety!
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 21:28:43 GMT
From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Open Post - No Title
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:38:43 GMT, "Ron Bowen" <Ron_Bowen@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>October 9 is hardly "ancient history."
That's when your server got it anyway.
>You
>started out shouting at John and then all of a sudden referred to me, and
>then signed off by talking directly to me.
Ron, John, Ringo, Lindsay, it all sounds the same to me. Maybe John
posted a reference to you. Three days makes 600 posts bud.
Royce
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Date: 11 Oct 1999 21:30:16 GMT
From: jsloanpr@aol.com (JSLOANPR)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: "Farewell to the Creeks"
" In 1814 the Creeks up and rose and redskin arrows through the country flows,
Davie, Davie Crockett, King of the wild frontier".
It's been 30 years since I've heard the tune but it's something like that.
Crockets family immigrated from Protestant Ulster. I wonder if they knew the
difference between Irish and Scottish pipe bands.
>I also recall from my history degree days that the Creeks
>were the principal object of the wrath of Davey Crockett, Andrew Jackson,
Jim
Jacksonville, FL Yep named for A.J.
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:34:25 GMT
From: "Stewart Nimmo" <nimmos@recorder.ca>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Piob Mohr
> Where do I find this Piob Mohr program everyone has been talking about?
P∞ob Mh≤r - Stittsville, Ontario, Canada
Web-site at: http://www.trytel.com/~piobmhor/
Slαinte!
Stewart Nimmo,
Maitland, ON, Canada.
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:54:43 -0700
From: "Jeff Ramsden (MacLe≥id)" <macleod@EXTRACTTHECAPScentricsoftware.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Steady Blowing - I don't get it
Hi all -
I've seen SO many posts and have heard so much about the necessity
of steady blowing.....and quite a bit about not blowing harder for the
top hand, shallower on the low hand, etc.
...but I'm a little confused now.
I find that I regularly overblow my low A (that annoying squawk), and
underblow my high A and, especially, my high G. It seems that my high
G is the first to go when I'm getting tired - every time.
Okay, so my question is this - am I subconsciously varying my blowing in
reverse - that is, do you think I'm actually blowing harder on the low hand
than I am the top? Or is it that there is something wrong with the way
I have the instrument set up?
I've only been playing for a few months, so it's probably more likely to be
my fault than the pipe, but I thought I'd check if there's anything that is
likely to be wrong with the instrument.
Thanks in advance!
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Clann MhicLe≥id Le≤dhais - "I Birn Quhil I Se"
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:12:17 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Oil and the difference between old pipes and new pipes
>Do the older sets indeed crack less?
>If they do crack less, is it because they are built beefier to begin
>with? Or maybe the ones with a tendency to crack have long since bit
>the dust and only the indestructable ones are left?
Older sets, being older, have a better chance of being made from better quality
wood (first-growth vs second-growth) AB. But I think it's mostly your second
point, that if they were going to crack, they would have cracked many years
ago.
>Question 2: My Naill chanter, like all Naills, has no varnish. I know
>you're supposed to oil Naill drones, but what about a chanter - are we
>supposed to oil them too? If so, do we oil both inside and outside? If
>so, how often are you supposed to oil it?
I wouldn't oil a pipe chanter at all.
And you're right about Naill chanters being thin walled.
Zu
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:21:23 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: plastic chanters
>Why is it that the less expensive pipes come with plastic chanters? Is
>it just to save money?
Plastic chanters cost $100-$125 less than AB chanters.
>Put another
>way, if for some strange reason you had to play either AFB drones with a
>plastic chanter, or a set with plastic drones and an AFB chanter, which
>would you choose?
Most bands play AB drones with plastic band chanters, so that's a common
choice.
Plastic drones with an AB chanter? I guess it could be acceptable but you'd
need to reed up the chanter to balance the loud tone of the plastic drones.
It's all in how you set things up.
The chanter's just a chanter, but the drones are the soul of the
instrument...to me, anyway.
Zu
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:27:35 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: On the beat?
>SO WHAT your saying, is just play the SAME fucking way,
>that you DRIVE your car on the GOD damm highway
>at RUSH hour.
Is that the way Canadians phrase a strathspey?
Zu
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:32:18 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Piobaireachd
> It will sound like noise to you if you are not familiar
>to you, and when you learn one, it will take you a good six months to
>assimulate it.
For me, it took 4 or 5 months to memorize my current piob, and another 3 or 4
months to learn to play it reasonably well. If I spent another 3 months on it
I could probably play it pretty well.
Zu
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:45:19 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes")
>John Mitchell
>Gibson player for 10 years now
Admitting it is the first step on the road to recovery.
Zu
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 03:09:28 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Zudupiper Reed Performance (part 2)
After last week's debacle at Goshen, I got a new chanter reed and tinkered up a
new set of Zudupiper tenors, this time using a thicker (yellow) tongue
material.
They kick ass.
It rained all day at the Scotland CT games, and these reeds just kept on going.
One reed stopped once, and even at that it gave a little advance warning
(crackling sound). I only play really well in bad weather, and I found myself
in the prize list in all the light music events.
Maybe it was my setup (a slightly harder chanter reed). Maybe it was because I
used a chanter cap religiously whenever I wasn't playing. Maybe I was just
lucky. Maybe all of the above.
Whatever it was, I'll take it.
Now I'm beginning to think that the thickness of the tongue should increase as
the strength of the overall pipe setup increases. Easy reed, pink (.015")
tongues. Medium-easy reed, yellow (.020") tongues. I still think white (.025")
is too thick for anything but flappervalve stanchions, but that seems to be
what MacMurchie tongues are made of.
Or maybe it has to do with elevation of the tongue.
Or effective length of the tongue.
My Zudupiper tongues are all about 1-2 mm shorter in effective length than
Wygents. They're also pre-set to have a higher elevation before they're
bridled back down.
Yes, the drone tops do tune higher on the pins, even with the tuning screws
mostly extended, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Zu
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:10:33 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <ToneCzar@erols.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Steady Blowing - I don't get it
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:54:43 -0700, "Jeff Ramsden (MacLe≥id)"
<macleod@EXTRACTTHECAPScentricsoftware.com> wrote:
>Hi all -
>
>I've seen SO many posts and have heard so much about the necessity
>of steady blowing.....and quite a bit about not blowing harder for the
>top hand, shallower on the low hand, etc.
>
>...but I'm a little confused now.
>
>
>I find that I regularly overblow my low A (that annoying squawk), and
>underblow my high A and, especially, my high G. It seems that my high
>G is the first to go when I'm getting tired - every time.
One of the most common problems I've seen among novice pipers is not
the underblowing or even unsteady blowing, but rather OVER-blowing.
For instance, I see the situation where I'm tuning drones in a lower
grade band, and some pipers consistently have less than three drones
going as I go around the circle. They also have trouble starting
their pipes without severe tenor howling. Their drones are hardly
even tunable at all due to the inability to get a steady reading from
their instrument. The chanter is screaming, particularly on the top
hand.
I'll take their pipes, and without making any adjustments start them
up easily and blow them sweetly with a good tone, all three drones
working and the chanter in balance. Their pipes are easy to blow and
comfortable. It's amazing ... people without much experience will
just blow the living shit out of the instrument ... I don't know if
some bad old teacher from their past told them to blow super hard or
what ... I see this all the time.
So my advice is ... be careful that you're not overblowing!!! Now, to
get the Low A and High A in balance ...
First, open the reed up a bit so that it doesn't gurgle on Low A.
Then reseat it and test it in your mouth (with the scale) to gauge the
proper strength. Pinch it a bit if needed to get the High A
blow-able.
Basically, blow to the High A ... get that to sound reasonably in tune
... check with the other notes ... tune the drones and check with
them. Now THAT is the strength you want.
Chris
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Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com
City of Washington Pipe Band
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:57:31 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <ToneCzar@erols.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes")
On 12 Oct 1999 02:45:19 GMT, zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) wrote:
>>John Mitchell
>>Gibson player for 10 years now
>
>Admitting it is the first step on the road to recovery.
Gee, I guess Jake Watson is "recovering" too ...
Look, Gibson pipes have some damn good tone, whatever else their
shortcomings, and yes I am aware of what those shortcomings are.
I'm not saying they're the greatest pipes that have ever been, but
have any of you detractors actually heard a set? Geez, y'all are as
bad as the Kron-bashers.
Notice how I neither bash nor praise the tone of Kron pipes ... 'cuz I
HAVEN'T HEARD a set that was properly set up that would allow me to
make a value judgment. Now as for their workmanship, yeah I've seen
that, and it's excellent.
Chris "Does Not Play Gibson Drones" Hamilton
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Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com
City of Washington Pipe Band
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:11:56 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <ToneCzar@erols.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Chanter Reeds
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:52:46 GMT, glenn@snoopy.v-net.org (Glenn
Campbell) wrote:
>I have noticed a recent problem of late. The town where I live has
>only 2 music shops that carry chanter reeds. Unfortunately, (for me)
>they only carry warnock. I have recently noticed a strange screeching
>change in the chanter going from high A to low a. I thought it was
>because I was blowing too hard, but after testing a few different
>warnock reeds and adjusting my blowing pressure I continued to witness
>this. I am presently playing a MacFarlane chanter, however I noticed
>this on my old Dunbar as well. Can someone on this NG recommend a make
>of reed that is free of these occasional sqeals going from A to a. (or
>maybe a remedy for the warnock reed to fix the problem)
Hi Glenn,
1. Open the reed up a bit.
2. Moisten it a bit.
3. Watch that your fingers are 100% bang on the bottom hand holes
when you go from High A to Low A.
Chris
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Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com
City of Washington Pipe Band
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 03:13:28 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Synthetic Drone Reeds
>I was wondering if any out there could share their experience with the
>various synthetic drone reeds, and whether any one has ant recommendations,
If you fiddle enough you can get a good sound out of about any set of synthetic
reeds. I think one brand is more "plug & play" than the other ones, but I
can't remember if it's EZ or Wgyent. Think it might be EZ.
FWIW, it's a lot easier to fiddle with synthetics than cane.
Zu
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 03:19:58 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Black Donald's March
>I am learning Piobaireachd Dhomnuill Duibh right now and I was just wondering
>if anyone plays a Crunluath A Mach variation in this tune. It's does not say
>to play one, however, my teacher plays it and from what little knowledge I
>have
>of Piobaireachd I think there should be one.
If you're getting this from the Kilberry Book, sometimes the a-mach variation
isn't written out, but that doesn't mean there isn't one.
Zu
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:25:34 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <ToneCzar@erols.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Zudupiper Reed Performance (part 2)
On 12 Oct 1999 03:09:28 GMT, zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) wrote:
>After last week's debacle at Goshen, I got a new chanter reed and tinkered up a
>new set of Zudupiper tenors, this time using a thicker (yellow) tongue
>material.
>
>They kick ass.
>
>It rained all day at the Scotland CT games, and these reeds just kept on going.
> One reed stopped once, and even at that it gave a little advance warning
>(crackling sound). I only play really well in bad weather, and I found myself
>in the prize list in all the light music events.
Ha! I only play well in 95 Fahrenheit and above ... :-)
>Maybe it was my setup (a slightly harder chanter reed). Maybe it was because I
>used a chanter cap religiously whenever I wasn't playing. Maybe I was just
>lucky. Maybe all of the above.
The harder reed and the cap ... no luck involved here.
You won't get as much tonal stability from a too-easy reed.
The cap keeps the chanter reed dryer, hence crisper and more stable.
Good job, grasshopper.
Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com
City of Washington Pipe Band
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 03:31:32 GMT
From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Winning for adult learners?
>My question to the masses on this NG is how should I feel about winning (or
>losing) to young children.
In the EUSPBA, grade 4 is broken up into Senior and Junior (over 18 or under
18) to protect the adults from the kids.
Starting in grade 3, the age restrictions go away, and don't come back until
the Open level, where some Canadian games have an over-50 competition. I was
talking to an older Open piper (in his 70's) and he was telling me how he
recently got beat by a kid in his 50's at one of these things.
>When playing against the younger ones I feel like all eyes are on me
>saying"look at that bully,playing against those poor little kids"
>Does anyone else feel this way?
Never crossed my mind. If anything, it's more the other way. I have to
compete with kids in grade 3, and generally they win. Grade 3 around here has
a bunch of teenagers in it, and a bunch of 30-45 yr olds, and not much in
between. As adults, it just seems to take longer.
Zu
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:42:36 -0700
From: Paul Hinson <phinson@lincweb.com>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Tune Search.
Gary Nicholas. wrote:
>
> Looking for the tune, " Alexander McAskill of Bernary ".
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Gary.
It is in Seumas MacNeill's book 2 and in Capt. John MacLellan's Ceol Beag
Agus Ceol Mor
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