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bagpipe-digest         Monday, October 4 1999         Volume 01 : Number 111




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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 13:52:20 GMT
From: "Tim Sullivan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Information overload - piping

> Stop posting all this good stuff!

    Right, then.  This post is 100% pure drivel.  Mark it read, and move on.
Nothing of any benefit to anyone will be found within this post - all
filler, no beef.

    Didn't I already *TELL* you to move on?  Why are you still reading
this???



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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 13:56:12 GMT
From: "Tim Sullivan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The "Right" Bagpipe

Ron Bowen <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:PxeJ3.1407$[e-mail]...

SNIPPAGE!!

> I'd like to buy a set of classic pipes to hang on the wall of my living
> room.  I think a set of MacDougalls from say 1860 would do.  Perhaps a
> presentation set.  Something with silver and Ivory.  Yeah, the shinier the
> better.  Yup, I'm gonna drive a spike right through the bass drone and
hang
> 'em on the wall, so I kin point to 'em and say "Lookie thar, bagpipes!"

    Uh, Ron?  In fairness, wouldn't that be more like "Bagpipes, eh?"?




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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:56:27 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Shut the Fuck Up & Play!!!

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 13:29:06 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>
>
>> That's it for me !!!!   I'm emigrating to Ontario !!!!  I hear the P/S
>> slot is open ...
>
>
>Toronto...donut capital of the world.  Average town in Germany has 2
>bars every city block, one each side of the street...Toronto has just as
>many donut shops...just look what it did to John ;)

Love those Tim-Bits.

Chris
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 13:47:39 GMT
From: oshpiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Good posts from Sunnyboy

In article <7t3rkc$vqh$[e-mail]>,
  John Mitchell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>  Well some have been bitching that I haven't
> posted anything that they can learn from.
>
> so here's an idea.
>
> why don't we start a tip of the day thread.
> there will be no replies allowed to it,
> just helpful hints.
>
> Fair enough!

I do have to say, in all fairness, that this looks like and attempt at
'control' from a control freak.  No replies, means you are cutting out
the other side of the story, at least.

Pat


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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 10:14:15 -0400
From: Chris Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: What's it all about?

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 21:50:29 GMT, [e-mail] (Royce
Lerwick) wrote:

> ...

>If you really feel you're a grade 1 band then put in
>the 1 instead of a 2 next time you enter a band
>competition and prove it.

Um, dude, that's what we're doing next year.

> ...

> I know you don't think you're being arrogant or
>deliberately bragging, but saying you're playing at a grade 1 level
>and then staying in grade 2 is unfortunately barbed with logical
>consequences.

Hey, the judges are saying it ... and we're not staying in Grade 2.
After the Worlds we had one contest left, and then up we go.

> ...

>Yes, I'm sure we will. And what you're saying is, you will move to
>grade one *at will* and you *will it* to be next year. And *next year*
>you'll be a grade 1 band then. I don't know why this is so bothersome
>to accept.

Again, the competition season is over, we'll be in Grade 1 next year,
what's the BFD?

It's only bothersome to argue piddling points of semantics ... the
rest of the world  knows what we're talking about.

I cease arguing -- this is like Monty Python's Argument Clinic ...

Chris
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:41:20 -0300
From: "dnimmo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Striking In Problem

    tntbirch wrote in message <[e-mail]>...
    The short version:  Simply put, why does my bass drone strike in an octave high sometimes?
    etc,....etc.,,,,



    I have exactly the same problem with the EZ tenors..........bass is usually OK, but not always.........

    My close female piper friend (20 years experience), will often,   take my pipes, smile sweetly, and go thru three or four strike ins in which all three drones come in perfectly every time ...........no squeals, no double tones, no nothing...........................without exception.......she has never had one of my drones do anything other than come in on freq and stable......

    "nice pipes" she sais and hands them back...............I do it...... and its crap again !!........... the drones do always snap in when I bring the chanter in.

    not sure which is more frustrating,   the smile, or the perfect strike ins.................

    She seems to hit the bag sideways rather than vertically as I usually do.....she uses a flat hand rather than the finger tips as I do..........she doesn't hit it as hard as I do................and the way she handles the bag I get the impression that she is keeping a constant air pressure on the reeds as she swings the bag under her arm.

    I think many of us "attack the reeds with adjustments"  when we should be studying the art of striking in instead.

    Only positive thing is ......she does have such a nice smile.........I just wish she didn't use it when striking in my pipes !..................

    David







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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 15:08:03 GMT
From: "Ron Bowen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The "Right" Bagpipe

Sorry, Tim.  I grew up in Virginia.  I get the odd flashback sometimes and
forget where I am!  (The odd time I've woken up in Oz... or is it this NG?)
Ringo
Tim Sullivan <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:0aoJ3.499$[e-mail]...
>
> Ron Bowen <[e-mail]> wrote in message
> news:PxeJ3.1407$[e-mail]...
>
> SNIPPAGE!!
>
> > I'd like to buy a set of classic pipes to hang on the wall of my living
> > room.  I think a set of MacDougalls from say 1860 would do.  Perhaps a
> > presentation set.  Something with silver and Ivory.  Yeah, the shinier
the
> > better.  Yup, I'm gonna drive a spike right through the bass drone and
> hang
> > 'em on the wall, so I kin point to 'em and say "Lookie thar, bagpipes!"
>
>     Uh, Ron?  In fairness, wouldn't that be more like "Bagpipes, eh?"?
>
>
>



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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 15:20:06 GMT
From: John Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Good posts from Sunnyboy

oshpiper <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I do have to say, in all fairness, that this looks like and attempt at
> 'control' from a control freak.  No replies, means you are cutting out
> the other side of the story, at least.

Pat, you really are a Nit, aren't you!

how does the phrase, "why don't we start a thread"
constitute me being in control.

If I didn't know any better,
I'd say you take reading lessons
from Royce, as you only read what
you want to see.

John


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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 16:13:38 +0100
From: Piper Bob <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Millenium March question

When were you elected the spokes person for the Edinburgers en mass ?
I Live and work in Edinburgh, I love these events, the last event was
supported by thousands of public spectators, read into that what you
will, I see it as loyal support and a love of piping. Any one can put
their hand in their pocket and give some money, the march shows a much
greater support for the charity and the public at large are made awair
of the work Marie Curie Cancer care, does. This is Edinburgh doing
something for piping, I agree it could do a loy more, lets not get into
an east west debate. Edinburgh, BT, and others are organising this event
for charitable reasons, please lets not forget this the main purpose, I
say support them with all your heart and have a great day.

Bob

> Looks like all the posts slagging of my post are from people who visited
> Edinburgh, had a good time then went away again leaving the locals to clean
> up.
>
> If this parade has to happen Why not have it in glasgow? Edinburgh has
> enough to keep the tourists happy. And Glasgow does more for piping and has
> more pipers than anywhere?

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Date: 02 Oct 1999 15:31:51 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Gaelmann)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners

>Great job on this!  I, too was greatly offended by John's remarks and wished
>to form a rebuttal.  Now I don't have to, you said it all!
>
>Bob B.
>

The price is wrong Bob...

I don't think anyone's getting Mitchell's point. Let me explain. John's talking
about what is needed to suceed in the piping "world", such as open and/or
grade1 (band) status. I don't recall John ever saying anything about good
music. As far as the GHB is concerned good music is a non-issue. Perhaps we're
all lucky its  this way, as even someone that is musically inept can reach open
or grade one status. For someone like myself who is fairly inept, it gives me
something to shoot for that I can very possibly attain. If you want to be a
loose cannon and make good music, go ahead, but you'll win no competitions and
be held in no esteem as a result. The best thing you can do , is do what you're
told until you are respected enough to change the standard from the one set by
lousy musicians and great pipers to a more universally respected one, like
becoming a judge and making sure a musical idiot such as myself can never
achieve open or grade1 status, I certainly hope that day never comes but I
guess thats just a little selfish on my part.
I'd love to see how a classical voilinist would interpret a Piobaireachd, and
I'd love to see judges that are also capable of directing a symphony, just not
in my lifetime.
Mike

 I wonder if the MacCrimmons actually spin  in their graves everytime the
Worlds comes around? or if any of the great composers played pipes, would they
of won any competitions?...just a thought.
Oh wait I'm sure Yanni would be an open piper in no time(LOL)



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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:42:26 -0600
From: sdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: smallpipe drone reeds

Shepherd makes some pretty good ones. You might give him a shot.

Don

[e-mail] wrote:

> Does anyone out there have any plastic tounged drone reeds for SSP's
> they would be willing to part with?  Let me know here or private
> e-mail.  Thanks.
>
> Rick

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Date: 02 Oct 1999 16:09:42 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Gaelmann)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Celtic Classic Results

>Is there any truth to the rumor that Worcester Kilties PB did not show up at
>the contest because Stewart Hogg got turned back at the Delaware Memorial
>Bridge not to be allowed in the state ??
>(Only kidding )
>

Sounds like it be a good fore word mention in my book about the fast lifestyle
of bagpipers.

"The Dofasco Fiasco: One dead Bass drummer, One  blood soaked mace, and a Pipe
Major that knew too much".

just $29.95 when you order either

"Peel Police :Foul Intent, the Michael Grey story".

or "Shotts and Dykehead: What really happened when The Big Burl Bowed out, a
comedy of sin'.
LOL
Mike Mcfafern

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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 16:00:57 GMT
From: John Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners

oshpiper <[e-mail]> wrote:
>   John Mitchell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > What I said was, that students shouldn't be too concerned
> > about all the intrinsic details of the bagpipes, and should
> > concentrate on learning to play the music and execution as
instructed.
>
> What difference does it make to you what intrinsic detail someone
wants
> to know more about

You really are a Doe Head, Aren't you Pat.

Obviously it doesn't make any difference to me,
as the phrase is addressed to the students.

When learning any subject, you don't start at the ending
of the text book. You progress thru in small logical steps,
so that your not overwhelmed by information.

I wouldn't expect a first year student to completely
setup their own pipes,(Reeds, pitch, ect) as thier ear
isn't develeoped yet, but they should at least be able to
tune the drones to the chanter. Thats a requirement
that takes no special skills to do, once the instrument
has been setup for them.

If you make the course easy to understand, then the
dropout rate will be minimal, but that's not saying
It's an easy course to start with.

Maybe Pat you should enroll in the Silverman School of Reading
to get the basics down again, before you attempt to slag my
personal character.

And if you do try again, make sure it's a legitamate point, and
not just your version based on you personality inadequancies.

Now be a good little boy Pat, and run along and fuck off!



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Date: 02 Oct 1999 16:47:32 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Piobare)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The ULTIMATE bagpipe chanter reed.

>>Any advice on how to break-in your reeds to maximize life expectancy?
>
In anticipation of playing at my daughter's wedding and with great fear of a
reed failing at that most inappropriate time,...

Sorry I don't remember who it was that suggested this method, nor do I remember
the exact method, but here it goes.
Select appropriate reed strength.
Play the new reed about 2 min. and put it away.
Next day: play the reed about 3 min. and put it away.
Day 3: play the reed about 4 min.
You get the idea.
Its hard to disipline yourself to "put it away", but it worked for me.
Use this method for about ten days.
I tried this on a new med/hard reed about June 1. I play a minimum of one hour
per day and have yet to have any hint of failure.
I can't take credit for this method, I can vouch for the fact that it really
does work.
Four months with the same reed. At one hour per day (120 days) thats alot of
playing time on one reed!

Mike

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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:01:50 +0100
From: Andrew Lee Hagen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Pipers in Greece???

Hi,

I've got a student from Greece and I'm wondering if there is either a pipe
band or a few pipers in Athens or elsewhere in Greece?  He's only in
Scotland for one year and it would be nice to know if there will be
anything piping-wise for him when he goes home.

TIA

Andrew


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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:03:07 +0100
From: Andrew Lee Hagen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Richard Parks address?

Hi,

Does anyone have Richard Parks address.  I had it but lost it about four
years ago!


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Date: 02 Oct 1999 17:26:30 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Ccc31807)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: helpful hints for newbie

>I noticed the tip of the day, and was wondering
>what most people are using. I use Air Tight in the
>plaid can, but that stuff is so smelly,
>is there anything that
>smells better,

Christy - this will identify me as a dinosaur, but I have never huse anything
but pure honey, and sometimes mixed in a little Crisco when the bag felt dry.
Honey (1) won't spoil, (2) smell nice, (3) works, and (4) can be bought almost
anywhere.

I use a hide bag and live in the SE United States, and season my bag once a
year, whether it needs it or not.

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Date: 02 Oct 1999 17:27:57 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Ccc31807)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Lerwick's Hold

>get Lindsay a blow job! Then maybe he'd calm down a little ;-)

Maybe Royce will let him borrow his band's trollop.

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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:07:38 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The ULTIMATE bagpipe chanter reed.

>Sorry I don't remember who it was that suggested this method, nor do I
>remember
>the exact method, but here it goes

Thanks for the tips bare, I'll try anything at this point to get more than
20hrs out of it.
Does anyone else have any tips on how to ressurect the reeds I just "plugged
and played"? They lasted about 10hrs before croaking, and I know most take
longer than that just to get broke in.
Our instructor is a non-believer in any kind of breaking in method, so anyone
with advice here will be greatly appreciated.
TIA


Bill
Mar a bha, mar a tha,
mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.


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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:11:46 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Celtic Classic Results

>>Is there any truth to the rumor that Worcester Kilties PB did not show up at
>>the contest

Anyone from the Worcester band here? I'd like to relay a message. If so please
contact me via private email.
TIA
Bill
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mar a bhitheas gu brath,
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:19:08 -0700
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The ULTIMATE bagpipe chanter reed.

Whose reed was it?

IS
Piobare <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:[e-mail]...
> >>Any advice on how to break-in your reeds to maximize life expectancy?
> >
> In anticipation of playing at my daughter's wedding and with great fear of
a
> reed failing at that most inappropriate time,...
>
> Sorry I don't remember who it was that suggested this method, nor do I
remember
> the exact method, but here it goes.
> Select appropriate reed strength.
> Play the new reed about 2 min. and put it away.
> Next day: play the reed about 3 min. and put it away.
> Day 3: play the reed about 4 min.
> You get the idea.
> Its hard to disipline yourself to "put it away", but it worked for me.
> Use this method for about ten days.
> I tried this on a new med/hard reed about June 1. I play a minimum of one
hour
> per day and have yet to have any hint of failure.
> I can't take credit for this method, I can vouch for the fact that it
really
> does work.
> Four months with the same reed. At one hour per day (120 days) thats alot
of
> playing time on one reed!
>
> Mike



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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:23:48 -0700
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: helpful hints for newbie

Okay, it's FREE TIP day:

Take a NEW tin of airtight. Remove the seal from inside the lip. Put the tin
in a bowl of HOT water from the tap - DO NOT heat it on the stove. When it's
completely liquid pour it into a plastic squeeze bottle. Keep this in the
fridge. Throw the tin away. If you keep seasoning this way it won't develop
that incredible smell that peels paint at 20 yards...AND all you have to do
is carefully squeeze a little into the chanter stock and one of the drone
stocks to season your bag.

IS
Hackergirl <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:7t5dtf$v50$[e-mail]...
> Hi everyone!
>
> I think this forum is just wonderful for
> new people like me. I have never seen so
> many helpful people, and there appears to
> be a number of colorful characters too.
>
> I guess it just makes it a fun place to visit.

Just be careful who bites you...most of theseguys ARE infected...
>
> I noticed the tip of the day, and was wondering
> what most people are using. I use Air Tight in the
> plaid can, but that stuff is so smelly,
> is there anything that
> smells better, I have tried pouring perfume

NOT A GOOD IDEA

into
> the bag, but the odor is unbearable in my house.
>
> Any suggestions would be most welcome,
> I want to hear from all you guys.
>
> Christy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:25:39 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners

>>I don't think anyone's getting Mitchell's point. Let me explain.

You did, but it still makes little sense. The biggest problem with Johns
comments besides being HIGHLY insulting to ALMOST everyone (except gr1 and 2
pipers of course) is that the HUGE MAJORITY of us 1) Will never be a grade1
piper. 2) Dont CARE to be a grade1 piper. In the real world how far will Johns
skills get him? Nowhere. See any results in the paper? On the news? NO! Aside
from that circle he stands in every weekend or so, nobody cares except their
competition.
If John and I stand side-by-side and play AG or STB at a wedding, funeral etc,
will anyone know me from him? NO!
My real problem (and everyone elses too) is the lame-brain, no tact approach he
uses to tell us were shiiite! That was the part that pissed-off the majority of
the NG.
Its the WAY he said, not so much what he said.
John, we all know were "bagpipe misfits" compared to you guys, but compared to
"us"  were pretty good LOL. My point is, your the elite, were the avg joes,
even if we had the desire, we may not have access to the great instructors you
did, which leaves us up shits creek.
Bill
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mar a bhitheas gu brath,
ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh.


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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:32:23 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Good posts from Sunnyboy

>how does the phrase, "why don't we start a thread"
>constitute me being in control.

It wasn't that john, it was the part about "no replies" that shows the control
part.
Bill
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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:31:22 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Good posts from Sunnyboy

>I do have to say, in all fairness, that this looks like and attempt at
>'control' from a control freak.  No replies, means you are cutting out
>the other side of the story, at least.

At VERY least!  This is an NG, not a place for one sided ideas or posts. We
don't need anymore "chest pounding".
Bill
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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:33:12 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Information overload - piping

>Why are you still reading
>this???
>

DAMMIT! You caught me...
Bill
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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:34:57 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Shut the Fuck Up & Play!!!

>.just look what it did to John ;)
>

Oh you mean that HUGE POT BELLIE he displayed while playing his pipes prone at
Altamont? Madman said to tell him to start working out. LOL
Bill
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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:41:06 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: tip of the day

>Fill the stocks with rolled up tissue / kitchen paper or similar and
>plug as usual.

Doesn't it get soggy and fall apart? When I tried using several varieties of
paper towels, and napkins to clean out the accumulated wet (slightly dried)
seasoning from my stocks, it just deteriorated until I was pulling globs of
tissue from my bag. It seems like your wetting toilet paper (an after Altamont,
you learn to conserve on that stuff LOL)
Bill
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:24:39 -0700
From: "Iain Sherwood" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Lerwick's Hold

Who gets to ring the bell?
Ccc31807 <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:[e-mail]...
> >get Lindsay a blow job! Then maybe he'd calm down a little ;-)
>
> Maybe Royce will let him borrow his band's trollop.



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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 19:43:02 GMT
From: Fernetta <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Good posts from Sunnyboy

In article <7t3rkc$vqh$[e-mail]>,
  John Mitchell <[e-mail]> wrote:

> there will be no replies allowed to it,
> just helpful hints.
>
And just how will you stop people from replying to it?
Send out the NG Gestapo?

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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:43:05 GMT
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Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Striking In Problem

>I found hitting the bag very hard strikes in okay.

That always makes me double over in pain! As a matter of fact, Lindsay says
he's going to show me just how much it hurts the next time I see him.
Bill
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Date: 02 Oct 1999 19:52:39 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Striking In Problem

> My close female piper friend (20 years experience), will often,   =
>take my pipes, smile sweetly, and go thru three or four strike ins in =
>which all three drones come in perfectly every time ...........no =
>squeals, no double tones, no nothing...........................without =
>exception.......she has never had one of my drones do anything other =
>than come in on freq and stable......
>

Have you tried it her way? This may seem like a dumb question, but have you
asked her to show you? Or explain it?

>way she handles the bag I get the impression that she is keeping a =
>constant air pressure on the reeds as she swings the bag under her arm.
>

We learned a lesson about steady blowing from Gary Moore of NRP when he struck
up ours. The chanter reed was shot, and the drone reeds were in various stages
of adjustment, but he picked them up, struck up the drones without so much as a
squeal, then the chanter, and played half a tune without them shutting down at
all. Talk about feeling like an amatuer.
Were learning steady blowing now...
Bill
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:02:46 GMT
From: oshpiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Good posts from Sunnyboy

In article <7t57r6$r04$[e-mail]>,
  John Mitchell <[e-mail]> wrote:
> oshpiper <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > I do have to say, in all fairness, that this looks like and attempt
at
> > 'control' from a control freak.  No replies, means you are cutting
out
> > the other side of the story, at least.
>
> Pat, you really are a Nit, aren't you!

Possibly.  But, then your spies can't confirm that just yet.  Can they?


> how does the phrase, "why don't we start a thread"
> constitute me being in control.

It doesn't.  And, Bill Carr took the bull by the horns.  Let's just see
how it progresses.


> If I didn't know any better,
> I'd say you take reading lessons
> from Royce, as you only read what
> you want to see.
>
> John

Oh golly, and I missed my lesson last week, too.

Pat


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Date: 02 Oct 1999 20:06:45 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The "Right" Bagpipe

>In the musical instrument  hall of the Metropolitan Museum of Art is a
>bagpipe display. There is one example of the GHB what manufacturer created
>them?

It really isn't relative to the discussion at hand. The set you speak of is a
"representative set", probaly never was, or will ever be playable.
But I'd like to know the answer anyways! LOL
Bill
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Date: 02 Oct 1999 20:14:53 GMT
From: [e-mail] (SENDMEMORESPAM)
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The "Right" Bagpipe

>There are truths on both sides of the arguement. T

How true!
Here's my question: When a old gentleman piper refuses to sell you a set of
vintage pipes, is it because they are harder to tune, and require much more
skill to do so? (earlier post in this thread.)
One reason we bought ours was because they were repeatedly stated to be "easy
to tune for a beginner", which seems like a good thing (I'll let you know when
I learn  how someday LOL)
So when he refused to sell them to him, was he being a snob, or just being
practical? The poster seemed pretty clear on the reason, was that it?

>there's also the story of Bert
>Barron, who sold off his considerable collection of antique pipes to all
>comers before he died in order to leave his family some money.

Very sad! But faced with the choices, who could blame the man?
Bill
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:18:55 GMT
From: oshpiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners

In article <7t5a7j$she$[e-mail]>,
  John Mitchell <[e-mail]> wrote:

> You really are a Doe Head, Aren't you Pat.

Is that "Doe" as in "female deer"?


> When learning any subject, you don't start at the ending
> of the text book. You progress thru in small logical steps,
> so that your not overwhelmed by information.
>
> I wouldn't expect a first year student to completely
> setup their own pipes,(Reeds, pitch, ect) as thier ear
> isn't develeoped yet, but they should at least be able to
> tune the drones to the chanter. Thats a requirement
> that takes no special skills to do, once the instrument
> has been setup for them.

So, now it's O.K. if I tune my drones by myself?  Great.  When do I get
to touch my chanter and chanter reed?


> Maybe Pat you should enroll in the Silverman School of Reading
> to get the basics down again, before you attempt to slag my
> personal character.

I thought you already enrolled me in Royce's Reading School?  If you
don't like your personal character being attacked, then maybe you should
take a look at your own interpersonal communication skills.


> Now be a good little boy Pat, and run along and fuck off!

And, if I was a good little girl, what would your advice be?

Ever see the movie "G.I. Jane"?  The part where she and her squad is
captured and tortured in S.E.A.L. training?    Now, what were her exact
words to the Master Chief???????

Pat


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