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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:25:11 -0500 (UTC -05:00)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (andina) Andes Manta

A group called Andes Manta is going to perform in Overland Park, Kansas
on 30 and 31 October.  They are said to be from Ecuador but now based in
New York City.  Does anyone know anything about them?  Anyone ever seen
them perform?

Thanks,
John


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:57:52 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (andina) Andes Manta

I saw Andes Manta perform several months ago in North Carolina.  The
audience loved them.  They are indeed all from Ecuador-- I believe that 3-4
of them are  brothers, but they have been spending the past several years
in New York or New Jersey.  They all are quite talented and, on top of
that, very friendly.  They perform some standard commonly known folk tunes,
and some nice original ones as well, if I remember correctly.   Does this
help?

- -jeffrey

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At 12:25 AM 10/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>A group called Andes Manta is going to perform in Overland Park, Kansas
>on 30 and 31 October.  They are said to be from Ecuador but now based in
>New York City.  Does anyone know anything about them?  Anyone ever seen
>them perform?
>
>Thanks,
>John
>
>
>-
>

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:58:05 +0200
From: Joel Flores <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) The Voices for Peace CD

               The Voices of Peace

 On November 19, 1997 the
 Yehudi Menuhin International
 Foundation put on a concert
 called "The Voices of Peace"
 at the Cirque Royal in
 Brussels. The outcome of this
 unique event was a recording
 which will be sold with
 profits going to the Menuhin
 Foundations. Noa, Yang du Tso,
 Houria Aichi, Esperanza
 Fernandez, Luzmila Carpio,
 Marzieh and Miriam Makeba are
 the Voices of Peace. As Yehudi
 Menuhin put it, "these voices,
 the voices of our conscience,
 touch right to the heart"
 (AUVIDIS/CHORUS AC 6461)
 Available from October 28


More info : http://www.auvidis.com/us/index.html (in english)
    http://www.auvidis.com/fr/index.html (in french)



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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:46:04 +0100
From: Stanojevic Stanislav <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) New andean site

http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/2474/index.html

Check out this address. It's very good, a lot of information. Stanislav



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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:37:58 +0100
From: "Inca Yupanqui" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) Bad luck

 I wish I could tell you that I am still able to copy tapes and cd's for =
those who asked me to excange. Sorry, my stereo is dead...that is, the =
recording part is dead. I can't afford a new one, so hereafter I only =
can exchange the ANDES original CD's (my ex.- hubby's group)
I also have one extra PURIMUY from Ecuador for the moment. Andes are all =
original written songs from my ex-brother in law, and it's great, this =
is original written stuff by Carlos Zamata who also performs for many =
years with the sami native artist Mari Boine from Norway.
Purimuy is not original songs from the group, but they do it extreemly =
good what they have done.
I don't do the group ANDES pages, they are gone of natural reasons, but =
you can get info about Purimuy here(and a couple of RaAudio files) :
http://w1.2222.telia.com/~u222200939/andina.htm

And from me if interessed in cd's

Another thing: I do the Awati=F1as pages for Mario Conde, but I am not =
involved in anything more. So to get more info, write to his adress by =
snailmail in France. The Kjarkas pages also the same politics. I can =
excange cd's possibly only for
Chanchani/Perumanta
Andes from Peru
Purimuy from Ecuador
Atahualpa from Ecuador (via Rodrigo Espinoza)
Matices from Ecuador (via Marcello/William Farinango)

From=20
Laila Holtet (Zamata)

Tawantinsuyu & Andean Culture Central 98
http://home.sol.no/~zamata



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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:42:22 +0100
From: "Inca Yupanqui" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) andes

 I forgot to tell there are two cd's from andes, Liliacha Del Campo and =
En mi sue=F1o encontr=E9. (97/98)
And exchange is written with a "h"..hehe  my english stinks as well as =
my spanish.

:-)

Laila HOltet (Zamata)


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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:37:02 +0100
From: "Inca Yupanqui" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

 Jaha...s=E5 var det uppdaterat p=E5 mitt gallery/Gallery update,new =
images!!

http://home.sol.no/~zamata/ngallery1.htm

Laila
Tawantinsuyu
http://home.sol.no/~zamata




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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:44:12 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Marcelo Villacres [ESRI-Redlands])
Subject: Re: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

Your work is wonderful Laila.
What tools do you use?

Marcelo

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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:29:31 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

I think is photoshop,,Laila can tell us....
I also love to work with photoshop,I am working in
cd cover for my group,,is amaizing the result that you can get with
this software.
Later.
Manuel.


At 07:44 AM 11/3/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Your work is wonderful Laila.
>What tools do you use?
>
>Marcelo
>
>-
>
>
>


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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:33:02 -0800
From: "Erwin E. Villalva" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

nice work.

I'd like to share my favorite Virtual Museum (Eduardo Kingman).

http://www.ritmo.com/kingman/

Erwin


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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:46:42 +0100
From: "Inca Yupanqui" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

 I'ts fotoshop, bryce 3d, and some other, and I have done only these two =
covers, and I never got two cent for it. All I do have been non profit, =
and I also help groups to make pages and so on. I have not as far as I =
know taken any of those images from lousy small pictures in bad =
resolution at the net,
I am sure that the instruments on the cover are from one of the group =
members who just might have instruments too since they have been playing =
at the streets for ten years, I think I remember that I had a lot of =
images from the net, and I also tried some of them, but since I need to =
scan images at a resolution of 300 to 600 dpi to get something that can =
be used, I can't remember that I made a 4 X 5 centimeter images in less =
than 72dpi to change into the scale I used to make my covers, it was =
scanned postersize 300dpi and the background was made by myself...... =
That is what they wanted from the fabric to be able to use it.=20
I am separated both from the group and that man. And I have no =
jobincome. I would like to know if I have taken from anyones pages the =
instruments - images, why do I show you the result?
Laila



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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:49:23 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Marcelo Villacres [ESRI-Redlands])
Subject: Re: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

Thanks Erwin. Kingman is one of my most favorite painters and
I am glad to see his work is on display for the whole world
to see.

Vivan las manos!

Marcelo

> From [e-mail] Tue Nov  3 09:28:24 1998
> X-Sender: [e-mail]
> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:33:02 -0800
> To: [e-mail]
> From: "Erwin E. Villalva" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (andina) SV: galleryupdate
> Mime-Version: 1.0
>=20
> nice work.
>=20
> I'd like to share my favorite Virtual Museum (Eduardo Kingman).
>=20
> http://www.ritmo.com/kingman/
>=20
> Erwin
>=20
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:28:35 +0100
From: "Inca Yupanqui" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

 I send this to the list to make sure that nobody thinks I am trying to =
lie or hide my #true self# for anyone:

All the proper copyrights are now up at the page for the latest Andes =
cover.I am not sure about all copyright, but so nobody will feel ripped =
off, I have put up to their wish. If I have forgot anyone, write me;-)

http://home.sol.no/~zamata/andes98.htm

I am sorry for any problems, I try to get all I do in a honest way, so I =
hope that is understood that I never with intention have abused anyone's =
confidence (and I don't invite the "victims of my deeds" to see the =
results after). And what I do I do myself, so I never ever want to hear =
that I have copied someone else's work, even if it's two words of =
songtexts or images where nothing else is said.
I have no income and have to do the most out of nothing, I have learned =
all myself, and never had so much as a hand helping me in anything. I am =
a very angry person these days,
I do not charge money for anything I have done at the internet NEVER and =
I am proud of it.
As for you Manuel, I am gratefull that you told me that it might be your =
quarter of an charango (but I think it's Carlo's chango, I am not sure) =
and your quena that I have used. I don't remember, because I had a lot =
of images, and I also visited your pages only twice more than 6 moths =
ago pluss today to see if I have made an idiot of myself. I am sorry if =
I caused you any problems at all.
(But to make it as your example in your last mail about one who copied =
an entierly Ernesto Cavour poem and put his own name as copyright, that =
is an insult of my work) We can be friends. But sometimes I can't handle =
everything. If you make a cover for your group I can give you some tips =
so you don't have to do too much unnessecary as thanks for the loan I =
didn't intend to do (that I still am not totally sure about all this, =
but it's the same, it's not important at all if I am right or wrong). I =
know exactly how a cover is made, and I have the messures to fit right =
into the fabric Mac.
Now, I might be able to tend to my mother who is dying of cancer as I =
see this as important in my life.

I see this subject as closed from this minute.

Laila Holtet.

Ps. I have to try to see this humorous: Women are unpredictable, and I =
am one that is crazy. BUT MOST OF ALL, I HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE TO =
ANYONE. I DON'T HAVE TO DO OR SAY ANYTHING TO KNOW THAT I AM GOOD =
PERSON, because I am.


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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:30:50 +0100
From: "Inca Yupanqui" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

 If This Condor Rabiosa are not welcome at this list anymore, feel free =
to get me out of it my friend Manuel.
Hopefully there are no more misunderstandings, and I am sorry for all I =
might have done wrong.

Sincerelly Laila Holtet
Tawantinsuyu & Andean Culture Central


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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:54:05 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

HOLLY COW!!!!!!!Lila,ask while ago about some pictures from my page
she ask me for pictures in 300 dpi or more and I don't remember
if I sent or not,but she was offended because I ask her that question
Lila don't fell like that,also I told you that I prefer to be your friend
I like your work with photos,etc,etc and I just asked that question because
you ask me before for some pictures,that is all...sorry list,the traffic
here is so
little that we don't need to get mad each other.
Manuel.


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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 03:39:39 +0100
From: "Inca Yupanqui" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: SV: (andina) SV: galleryupdate

 It's ok, just ask me anytime, I'll give you all info you need to go to =
the fabric with your cover.
And I am not  mad, I am just not very well because I have been living =
for weeks, knowing my mom is going to die..unballanced maybe, and I am =
under a lot of pressure. Forget it, I have and will always help and you =
got links to your pages from mine, and another thing, I didn't mean to =
make problems. Let's forget all about it.

Laila


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:47:00 +0100
From: "Inca Yupanqui" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) your pages

 I have sent up your pages at=20

http://w1.2222.telia.com/~u222200939/andina.htm


Now you have the power of the wizard to continue this, ok? ;-)

Laila


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:02:35 +0100
From: "Inca Yupanqui" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) ERROR!

 The message below was NOT intended for this list. I didn't see that it =
was co-adressed to the list when I hit the answer button to someone =
else. Forget it ever came here. I thought I was out off this list too.

Laila
________________________-

> I have sent up your pages at=20
>
>http://w1.2222.telia.com/~blablabla-------
>
>
>Now you have the power of the wizard to continue this, ok? ;-)
>
>Laila
>
>
>-
>
>


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:36:21 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) andina list-Don Funes.

For sure this list remember Don Funes,he live in San Marcos California
He have been in the andina list for years.
Today I got a update of his health,he have been getting treatment for lung
cancer
for a while,maybe we can send some email to him saying hi,etc.
([e-mail]  )I hope this email is working.
I did find his email in my andina file,ahh?
I hope he can get complete recuperation.
Manuel.

>Just to keep you updated on Don's condition - he is going to have to do two
>more rounds of chemotherapy and possibly some radiation as the cancer is
>still present.  He's in good spirits and looks well, although the chemo
>makes him feel tired, so we're continuing to hope for the best.
>
>Thank you for all of your help!
>Sincerely,
>Laurie Schmezler






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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:52:23 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) studios.

>
>AS I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS TO RECEIVE THE ANDINA LIST TO MY NEW E_MAIL ADRESS,=
> PLEASE THE REPLY MODE TO REACH ME, THANKS IN ADVANCE
>
>Hi folks,
>
>I need your help !
>I was charged by the head of a baroque ensemble to find a recording studio=
> in Bolivia.
>This ensemble will travel to Bolivia for a serie of concerts in Tupiza and S=
>ucre.
>
>I was thinking about studios in La Paz because as far as I know, there's no=
> studios in Tupiza and Sucre with the requirements of this ensemble :
>A 24/32 digital tracks studio with DA-38 (DA-88) multitrack recorders or=
> ADAT multitracks recorders.
>
>I've heard about a studio called Proton, another called Audiowatts but I=
> don't  have any information about their equipment nor their contact phone.=
> If you know something about this matter, please contact me.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Joel
>
>
>
>
>


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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:16:17 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) Any suggestions here?????

One of my cyber friends ask me this,maybe someone in this list "andina"
can awake the list.
thanks.
Manuel.

question:

The Wara songs were Amancer Andino and Collita I think.
Still practicing Collita on the kena--not an easy piece with the 3rd
octave G.

Oh, one thing I've been meaning to ask you:
Should you ever use all 6 fingers on the holes for the second octave G?
Or just 3,4? I never know which to use or both.
Also, on the 2nd octave, I half cover the bottom hole with my thumb. But
I hear you're supposed to cover the thumb hole entirely for the 2nd.
Which is correct?
Sorry for all the questions.

    Joe

(Joe if you want to subscribe to the "andina list,let me know.)


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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:20:13 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) testing

123...


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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:56:58 -0800
From: Jennifer Runner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) Song lyrics in Quichua & Aymara

Does anyone know the lyrics to the either of the following songs:
"Intiu Khana" (Clearing Sun) by C. Orosco & S. Callejas of Grupo Aymara
(in Aymara)
"Cancion de una esperanza" traditional from Ecuador (in Quichua)
I'm looking for either the original lyrics in Aymara and Quichua, or
translations in English or Spanish.

Sabe alguien las letras de las siguientes canciones:
"Intiu Khana" por C. Orosco y S. Callejas del Grupo Aymara (en Aymara)
"Cancion de una esperanza" tradicional de Ecuador (en Quichua)

Thanks!
Jennifer Runner - [e-mail]


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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 01:08:38 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl?= Flores <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) Gilbert "El Gringo" Fravre

Acabo de recibir una triste noticia....

Me acaban de informar que Gilbert Fravre "el Gringo", de los Jairas, falleci=
o.

No s=E9 mas, es por eso que te escribo, tal vez estes mas al tanto....que=
 pena :-((




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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:16:25 -1000
From: Laurie Tomchak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) Gilbert "El Gringo" Fravre

On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, [iso-8859-1] Jo=EBl Flores wrote:

>=20
>=20
> Acabo de recibir una triste noticia....
>=20
> Me acaban de informar que Gilbert Fravre "el Gringo", de los Jairas, fall=
ecio.
>=20
> No s=E9 mas, es por eso que te escribo, tal vez estes mas al tanto....que=
 pena :-((
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -
>=20
>=20


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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 10:40:46 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) Gilbert "El Gringo" Fravre

Tengo entendido que estaba sufriendo de cancer al pulmon
por un tiempo.
Manuel.

At 06:16 PM 12/12/98 -1000, you wrote:
>
>
>On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, [iso-8859-1] Jo=EBl Flores wrote:
>
>>=20
>>=20
>> Acabo de recibir una triste noticia....
>>=20
>> Me acaban de informar que Gilbert Fravre "el Gringo", de los Jairas,
fallecio.
>>=20
>> No s=E9 mas, es por eso que te escribo, tal vez estes mas al tanto....que
pena :-((
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> -
>>=20
>>=20
>
>
>-
>
>
>


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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:48:22 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl?= Flores <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) Yehudi Menuhin's "Voices for Peace" CD feat. Luzmila - bolivian press release

http://www.la-razon.com/ant/981216/cuerpof/portada.htm# 2

______________________________________________________
LC Management & Consulting France
4, rue des Pretres Saint-Severin
=46-75005 Paris, France

phone :                       + 33 (0)6 859 267 21
phone/fax :    + 33 (0)1 432 581 46
fax :                       + 33 (0)1 432 504 37


This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by=
 LC Management & Consulting except where provided for in a written agreement=
 between you and LC Management & Consulting. Any unauthorised disclosure,=
 use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are=
 not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender=
 immediately.=20



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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:08:09 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) Yehudi Menuhin's "Voices for Peace" CD feat. Luzmila - bolivian press release

I can't get that page,,,do you know why??
Manuel.


At 10:48 PM 12/17/98 +0100, you wrote:
>http://www.la-razon.com/ant/981216/cuerpof/portada.htm# 2
>


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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:25:21 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) Yehudi Menuhin's "Voices for Peace" CD feat. Luzmila - bolivian press release

Got it!!!
manuel.


At 10:48 PM 12/17/98 +0100, you wrote:
>http://www.la-razon.com/ant/981216/cuerpof/portada.htm# 2
>
>______________________________________________________
>LC Management & Consulting France
>4, rue des Pretres Saint-Severin
>F-75005 Paris, France
>
>phone :                       + 33 (0)6 859 267 21
>phone/fax :    + 33 (0)1 432 581 46
>fax :                       + 33 (0)1 432 504 37
>
>
>This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment
by LC Management & Consulting except where provided for in a written
agreement between you and LC Management & Consulting. Any unauthorised
disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If
you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender
immediately.
>
>
>
>-
>
>
>


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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:29:04 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) Llajtayku.

Hello,we have been very busy playing in Fashion Place Mall,Salt lake City.Utah.
Today talking with my friend,member of Llajtayku,he told that Homar Sepulveda
ex member of Inkuyo(my favorite group),and Carlos Crespo(ex memeber of Sukay)
they was playing in other mall here in Salt lake City,already is too late
for me to go
and find them maybe they are on the road to Colorado......maybe next year.
This Saturday Llajtayku will be playing in Fashion Place Mall,from 1 PM to 3 PM.
also Monday and Tuesday (21-22) from 5 to 8 PM.
We are very close to our goal to record a cd,we have been playing in
different Restaurant
and saving that money for our cd,something that we must do.

Feliz Navidad para todos!!!
Merry Christmas for everybody...

Manuel and Llajtayku.


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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:30:39 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) the famous CONDOR PASA.

Well,finally we are done with our christmas performance,we play for like
4 days in the fashion place mall,we had a great time playing this beautifull
music.
Something that is very amazing for me is the magnet of the song EL CONDOR=
 PASA ,
I don't know if you guys know that we don't have our own cd yeat,we sale=
 Sukay
cd,,,we play several songs that are in their cd's,,,,before we play a song
we say to the audience
that we are going to play the song that is in the Mettings cd,for=
 example,,,,
Many many times the people ask us that they want our cd,,,when people ask
for our cd
we fell that we must record a cd of course..
How I said before is amzing the magnet of the Condor Pasa,,,everytime when
we played
that song the people walking around in the mall,they turn their head to us
and then they walk
fast to the table and they get the cd with that song,,of course we sold all
those cd's,David Peterson
made a arragment in the Condor..we play the lamento with 2 quenas and one
quenacho(harmony)
David Peterson Play arpegio in the guitar,after that we play the
trote(drum,charango,guitar
and Fernando in quena)and then the guayno,,,,,people always think that the
song is done
when we are almost done with the trote,that why David Sonntag call this song
"the symphony of the Condor"
Also people enjoy soo much when we play PURU RUNAS,,,I think because the
great bass sound when we play
the Toyos..well I enjoyed a lot those days in the Mall....
FELIZ A=D1O NUEVO ANDINA!!!!!!

PS.we are going to be playing for New Year Eve from 7.30 to 8.15.....=20


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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:34:49 -0800
From: Joel Fentin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) Nelly Munguia

Nelly Munguia sings a few songs on a CD by Pervian guitarist
Javier Echecopar. Perhaps someone out there knows if she has a CD
of her own. Thank you.
- --
Joel Fentin    tel: [phone]    FAX: [phone]

email: [e-mail]     web: http://efm.simplenet.com

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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 19:33:06 -0500
From: Bruce Mannheim <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (andina) Nelly Munguia

This apparrently didn't get distributed the first time I sent it, but in
case any *else* is interested, here's my reply to Joel Fentin's query on
Nelly Munguia.

From:     Bruce Mannheim
Sent:     Monday, December 28, 1998 10:34 PM
To:     [e-mail]
Subject:     RE: (andina) Nelly Munguia

Nelly Munguia has a CD (entitled simply "Nelly Munguia") that was
released in the (northern hemisphere) Spring by the Peruvian record
company IEMPSA (IEMPSA 1506), a compilation of 14 songs (mainly huaynos)
that she recorded for Virrey records in the 70s and 80s. (IEMPSA has
kept Virrey's back catalogue in circulation since they went belly-up the
year before last.)

For those who don't know her music, Nelly Munguia has had a
distinguished career as one of the most influential modern interpreters
of vernacular music from the Ayacucho region of Peru, perhaps the
defining female vocalist in the region. She recorded for two of the
major Peruvian labels of the 70s, Virrey and IEMPSA (on their Lider
label).  Here are a few of her titles from the days of vinyl (most on
cassette--some which take some searching, even in Peru):

Virrey 13454        25 a=F1os: Ayer, hoy y siempre
Virrey 12852        Ayacucho en mi coraz=F3n
Virrey 13387        Plegaria
Virrey 13038        Solo recuerdos

Lider 04.06.73        Tu voz, tu canto y tu encanto (this is an EP, and I have
never seen             it on cassette, but who knows...)

and two recent cassettes for independents:

Arte y tradici=F3n 004    Concierto "todo cambia"
(no label name)         con los Hermanos Alvarado (there is more than one
cassette in             this series)

This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Her beautiful "Enga=F1os del mundo" is available on the Arhoolie reissue
of IEMPSA material, Huayno music of Peru v.1 (1949-1989) (which I
recommend to anyone who is just becoming acquainted with Peruvian
music).=20

Regards,

Bruce Mannheim

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From:     Joel Fentin[SMTP:[e-mail]]
Sent:     Monday, December 28, 1998 11:34 AM
To:     [e-mail]
Subject:     (andina) Nelly Munguia

Nelly Munguia sings a few songs on a CD by Pervian guitarist
Javier Echecopar. Perhaps someone out there knows if she has a CD
of her own. Thank you.
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Joel Fentin    tel: [phone]    FAX: [phone]
=20
email: [e-mail]     web: http://efm.simplenet.com

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:27:15 +1100
From: "Ken Webster" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) Hi list

Hi list

To help me learn to play Andean songs I try to find CDs with songs
for which I have written music, especially when it is not proper
notation and the timing is unclear.

I found 2 CDs (Los Kjarkas Lo Mejor Vol.1 and Vol.2) on a site at
http://www.cochabamba.co.jp/kjarkas.html.

These two CDs would provide another 6 songs each but are unavailable in =
Australia and the local CD shop can=27t even get them
from the US.  There are just four Los Kjarkas CDs available from the US =
but it is difficult to read the names.

    A.Los =23oo A=23os
    Tecno Andino
    Vol 1 Sentimento Andino
    Vol 2 Sentimento Andino

If anyone could tell me what songs are on these I may find them
just as good and easier for me to obtain.  Thanks in advance.

Also the above site I think is Cochabamba and I am worried about
sending money (cheques) there as I hear many stories of mail being
lost, perhaps stolen and do not want to send bank account information over =
the net.  Any suggestions how I can obtain these
CDs???

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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:40:13 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) about tarkas...

I have been thinking about tarkas key for a while and I realized
they have a fake key,is impossible to tell for me the key of this instrument
but I can't denied the beaty of their sound whenI play 2 or three at the
same time.
Anyone know if there is a specific key for tarkas,also when you play
tarkas,you don't use to mix it
with quenas or other winds??,I would like to know if you guys know something
else about tarkas...
later.
manuel.


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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:53:47 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Marcelo Villacres [ESRI-Redlands])
Subject: Re: (andina) about tarkas...

Tarkas are native to the area surrounding the Titicaca lake, that is
to the communities in Sourthern Peru and Northern Bolivia. They are
associated with the rain and traditionally used to be played only
in the rainy season. Since urban people in the Altiplano have taken=20
on playing the tarka, it is now played during festivities all year
around. They are traditionally played with the accompaniment of a
kullu k'epi, a very large bass drum, and a snare drum. Thy are not=20
played with any other wind instruments, since natives typically
associate instruments with the seasons or particular events. Some=20
avant garde groups have used tarkas with strings though.

The tarka is a pentatonic instrument but I don't know what key it is
on. You could use an electronic tuner to figure it out, though its
pitch may likely not be at 440, or anywhere near, depending on how
it was made. Tarkas come in three different sizes, the large and=20
the small one are an octave apart, and the medium is tuned in fifths.
They are played in troops, just like many of the wind instruments
from the Altiplano. Another factor to consider for not playing tarkas
with other wind instruments is that when you play them you have to blow
very hard, which produces a lot of overtones that would practically
drown any other wind instrument. You could mix them if you blow
sofly as they produce a sweeter sound then, but for that it may be
better to use moxen~os, they are much sweeter when blown softly, or
better yet the senka-tenkana or the... darn, I just forgot the name
of the other large quena-like instrument, anyway, both of these are
pentatonic and very low, but you need long arms and fingers to play
them... not to mention that they are hard to find.

I hope this helps.

Marcelo

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:47:15 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) question

Hello,I wonder if you can discribe Jaime Guardia style,,is like Cavour or
like Alejandro Camara,or Navia,etc,I don't know who is Guardia,and I would like
to get music of him.
thanks.
Manuel.
>Hi folks,
>
>I recently picked up an Arhoolie CD called "Huayno Music of Peru, Vol. 1"
>which I'm sure many of you have.
>
>There are two tracks by a group called Conjunto Los Chankas Apurimac,
>featuring two wonderful female vocalists.  Does anyone know if more
>recordings exist of this group?
>
>Likewise, there's one track featuring Trio Lira Paucina, with
>the astounding charangoist Jaime Guardia.  I have Guardia's
>El Charango Del Peru disc, but no other recordings by this trio.
>Are they available anywhere?
>
>Thanks...
>
>-Rob
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:09:50 -0800
From: "Joseph Chang" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) question

Question:


Are there any books on Andean music describing the differnt styles and
which ones are connected to which festivals and the like?

    Joe

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:11:05 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Marcelo Villacres [ESRI-Redlands])
Subject: Re: (andina) question

Jaime Guardia is one of Peru's greatest charango players. His style
uses a lot of finger picking, which captures the essence and flavor
of Peruvian music, making his charango at times sound like a mandolin=20
and others like a harp. His strumming also showcases the Peruvian
flavor and how different it is from Bolivian music. His playing is=20
clean and with very tight timing. He sings very nicely too.

Joel, would you like to comment on this?

Marcelo

> From [e-mail] Wed Jan 13 08:40:56 1999
> X-Sender: [e-mail]
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> To: [e-mail]
> From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (andina) question
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:47:15 -0700
>=20
> Hello,I wonder if you can discribe Jaime Guardia style,,is like Cavour =
or
> like Alejandro Camara,or Navia,etc,I don't know who is Guardia,and I =
would=20
like
> to get music of him.
> thanks.
> Manuel.
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >I recently picked up an Arhoolie CD called "Huayno Music of Peru, =
Vol. 1"
> >which I'm sure many of you have.
> >
> >There are two tracks by a group called Conjunto Los Chankas Apurimac,
> >featuring two wonderful female vocalists.  Does anyone know if more=20
> >recordings exist of this group? =20
> >
> >Likewise, there's one track featuring Trio Lira Paucina, with
> >the astounding charangoist Jaime Guardia.  I have Guardia's
> >El Charango Del Peru disc, but no other recordings by this trio. =20
> >Are they available anywhere?
> >
> >Thanks...
> >
> >-Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>=20
>=20
> -
>=20

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:41:03 -0800
From: Joel Fentin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) Jaime Guardia

>Jaime Guardia is one of Peru's greatest charango players.....
>
>Joel, would you like to comment on this?
>
>Marcelo

These discs are reportedly available in Lima:

JAIME GUARDIA : CHARANGO CUSQUEN~O
JAIME GUARDIA : EL CHARANGO DEL PERU
JAIME GUARDIA : JAIME GUARDIA
JAIME GUARDIA : SANGRE ANDINA 1984

In addition, Here is one I am looking for:

Cuarteto Musical Pauza (Jaime Guardia) -- El sentir del pueblo
Discos Independientes 9047

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email: [e-mail]     web: http://efm.simplenet.com

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:03:32 -0500
From: Bruce Mannheim <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) Jaime Guardia

Jaime Guardia recorded with Lira Paucina for the old (Peruvian) Odeon
label. Some of this material was was reissued on

IEMPSA 0077 Conjunto Lira Paucina (1994)

which also includes some recordings made as a soloist.  As the first
message in this sequence mentioned, he also has a 2 or 3-year old CD
(IEMPSA 0171) called El Charango del Peru'.

Guardia recorded two CDs for Discos Independientes:
9047 Cuarteto Musical Pauza El sentir del pueblo, (1995) a mostly
instrumental album with Fidencio Escobar Razo on harp, Wilfredo Caja on
violin, and Jose' Guardia Crispin on guitar.

and

9030 Jaime Guardia and Ricardo Alvarez, Con todo mi corazon, (also 1995)
in which Alvarez plays qina.

He also has sveral cassettes that are privately issued, some including
older recordings with Lira Paucina, but mostly recently recorded, and
several individual cuts included on two of the IEMPSA anthology cds.

My personal favorites are the Lira Paucina recording and Cuarteto
Musical Pauza because his charango style showcases best in a string
(rather than wind) setting--in my opinion anyway.

Regards,

Bruce Mannheim

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From:     Marcelo Villacres [ESRI-Redlands][SMTP:[e-mail]]
Sent:     Wednesday, January 13, 1999 12:11 PM
To:     [e-mail]
Subject:     Re: (andina) question

Jaime Guardia is one of Peru's greatest charango players. His style
uses a lot of finger picking, which captures the essence and flavor
of Peruvian music, making his charango at times sound like a mandolin
and others like a harp. His strumming also showcases the Peruvian
flavor and how different it is from Bolivian music. His playing is
clean and with very tight timing. He sings very nicely too.

Joel, would you like to comment on this?

Marcelo

> From [e-mail] Wed Jan 13 08:40:56 1999
> X-Sender: [e-mail]
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> To: [e-mail]
> From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (andina) question
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:47:15 -0700
>
> Hello,I wonder if you can discribe Jaime Guardia style,,is like Cavour or
> like Alejandro Camara,or Navia,etc,I don't know who is Guardia,and I would
like
> to get music of him.
> thanks.
> Manuel.
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >I recently picked up an Arhoolie CD called "Huayno Music of Peru, Vol. 1"
> >which I'm sure many of you have.
> >
> >There are two tracks by a group called Conjunto Los Chankas Apurimac,
> >featuring two wonderful female vocalists.  Does anyone know if more
> >recordings exist of this group?
> >
> >Likewise, there's one track featuring Trio Lira Paucina, with
> >the astounding charangoist Jaime Guardia.  I have Guardia's
> >El Charango Del Peru disc, but no other recordings by this trio.
> >Are they available anywhere?
> >
> >Thanks...
> >
> >-Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> -
>

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:56:16 +1100
From: "Ken Webster" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (andina) En El Socavon

Hi List

Just starting to get the hang of En El Socovon from Camaras
charango method.  I get the impression it is a theme song from
something.  So =22In The Hole=22, can anyone tell me about this?


Ken Webster   websterk=40lic.gov.au

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:31:06 -0700
From: Manuel Navarro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) En El Socavon

Well if you play a morenada in a charango solo,is like playing a saya
only with the drum and your voice,,,maybe the saya will be better.
I prefer the systen that Cavour show how to play the charango
In few days I will put some tips for charango in my web page
later andina.
manuel.



At 08:56 AM 1/22/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi List
>
>Just starting to get the hang of En El Socovon from Camaras
>charango method.  I get the impression it is a theme song from
>something.  So "In The Hole", can anyone tell me about this?
>
>
>Ken Webster   [e-mail]
>
>-
>
>
>


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:34:55 +1100
From: "Ken Webster" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) En El Socavon - Reply

Hi

 Please remember I don=27t have much knowledge of these things.
It is difficult to cross cultural boundaries.
can you explain, define (morenada)?
I was looking for some background information on En El Socavon,
it sounds like Camara says something like theme from In The Hole.
Is this like a movie theme??  What is it about??
As for solo, I don=27t have a choice, I try to learn what I can from
whatever I can find, guess I=27m like a sponge trying to  absorb
anything I can.

I have not finished Camaras method yet but what to do after that?
Maybe I will try the Cavour method then.


Ken Webster   websterk=40lic.gov.au


>>> Manuel Navarro <mnavarro=40mail.xmission.com> 01/22 2:31 pm >>>
Well if you play a morenada in a charango solo,is like playing a saya
only with the drum and your voice,,,maybe the saya will be better.
I prefer the systen that Cavour show how to play the charango
In few days I will put some tips for charango in my web page
later andina.
manuel.



At 08:56 AM 1/22/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi List
>
>Just starting to get the hang of En El Socovon from Camaras
>charango method.  I get the impression it is a theme song from
>something.  So =22In The Hole=22, can anyone tell me about this?
>
>
>Ken Webster   websterk=40lic.gov.au
>
>-
>
>
>


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:50:11 +0100
From: Stanojevic Stanislav <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (andina) En El Socavon - Reply

Ken Webster wrote:

> Hi
>
>  Please remember I don't have much knowledge of these things.
> It is difficult to cross cultural boundaries.
> can you explain, define (morenada)?
> I was looking for some background information on En El Socavon,
> it sounds like Camara says something like theme from In The Hole.
> Is this like a movie theme??  What is it about??
> As for solo, I don't have a choice, I try to learn what I can from
> whatever I can find, guess I'm like a sponge trying to  absorb
> anything I can.
>
> I have not finished Camaras method yet but what to do after that?
> Maybe I will try the Cavour method then.
>
> Ken Webster   [e-mail]



I don't know Camara's method, although it must be a very good one
because he is a great charango player and artist.

Bolivian and andean music in general is based on strictly defined
rhythmical templates. Morenada is the name of one of these numerous
rhythms. The essential thing is to learn basic timing and accents and to
start to feel it. So, before playing any piece, try to find out its
basic rhythmical pattern. If you have always in mind its rules, then it
will be much easier to play solo on any instrument.

Try to listen as much as you can to other musicians and groups. Try as
well to distinguish various rhythms without looking names of the pieces
on the cover of the recording. Cavour's method is based on these tips.
It trains your ear and develops your technical skills for basic charango
playing.

Feel free to contact me in case you need any further advice or help.
Stanislav


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